Week 6 Start/Sit: Justin Herbert, Alvin Kamara, A.J. Brown + Bengals trade for Joe Flacco

Summary

Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry

Episode Summary: Week 6 Start/Sit: Justin Herbert, Alvin Kamara, A.J. Brown + Bengals Trade for Joe Flacco

Date: October 8, 2025
Host: Matthew Berry (NBC Sports) with Connor Rogers & Jay Croucher

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into Week 6 fantasy football start/sit decisions with signature banter, covering hot-button offense changes (notably, the Bengals trading for Joe Flacco), player usage trends, love/hate rankings for prominent fantasy contributors, and a lively “Blind Date” segment using advanced metrics to identify undervalued or tricky fantasy plays. The team blends actionable advice with humor, friendly jabs, and strong opinions, making this a highly engaging episode for managers seeking an edge or reassurance during a turbulent fantasy season.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Top Story: Bengals Trade for Joe Flacco

Discussion starts ~06:27

• Joe Flacco to the Bengals:
  The trio reacts to the Bengals moving on from Jake Browning, with new hope and comic relief for Joe Flacco now under center.

  • Flacco “is an improvement—even if it’s from worst to second-worst” (07:47).
  • They note improvements in skill position talent: “Browning was throwing to Jamar Chase and T. Higgins. There’s certainly a significant talent upgrade for Flacco here” (Connor Rogers, 07:50).
  • Main upside: Flacco’s decisiveness—“The ball is coming out quickly and he’s not scared to throw into double coverage... There’s a little YOLO to Joe Flacco” (Connor Rogers, 08:25).

• Impact on Fantasy Stars:

  • Jamar Chase: “Jamar Chase is always open…so if you're willing to chuck it to him, more often than not he's going to come down with the ball.” (Connor Rogers, 10:28)
  • Chase Brown/T. Higgins: Hopes for more efficiency and “cheap dump-offs” in the passing game, but OL woes remain.
  • General warning: The move is only a modest improvement, “The promise of Flacco might be better than the reality.” (Connor Rogers, 15:39)

Memorable Quote

“Sauntering for his life… This line’s been really, really bad. Flacco will get rid of the ball quickly…and he’s not scared to throw into double coverage.”
—Connor Rogers, 10:10

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2. Start/Sit Analysis and Rankings

Main segment begins ~16:00
(Berry, Rogers, and Croucher alternate, often with light teasing and regional-flavored slang)

Justin Herbert (@MIA)

• Remains a “top-five play”…“If Herbert is ever going to get right, this is a dream matchup.” (Jay Croucher, 17:25)

Alvin Kamara (vs NE)

• Trending down due to Kendre Miller eating into touches and a tough Patriots defense.
• Still viable as “high-end flex, low-end RB2,” with hope in PPR usage: “The Patriots allow the fifth highest catch rate to running backs…so there’ll be some dump offs here.”
  (Matthew Berry, 21:30)

Ramondre Stevenson (@NO)

• “Box score last week was so disgusting”—utterly TD dependent; “He’s had one game this year with a double digit target share,” making him highly risky.
  (Connor Rogers, 21:48)

Zach Charbonnet (vs JAX)

• Only viable if he scores; “Even in games in which he scored a touchdown…he’s still under 13 fantasy points as well.”
  (Connor Rogers, 24:44)

A.J. Brown (vs NYG, TNF)

• Major concern: “His ability to beat man coverage…has completely fallen off a cliff this year.”
  (Jay Croucher, 27:46)
• Still a start (“keeping it open”)—but “if you can't do it against the Giants, I don’t know when you feel trustworthy about starting A.J. Brown. 21 is the lowest I've had him all year.”
  (Matthew Berry, 33:12)

D.J. Moore (@WAS)

• “DJ Moore’s problem is he’s not Rome Odunze.” Just one top-30 WR week—no trust, “I’m closing it out on DJ Moore.”
  (Connor Rogers, 34:58)

Jacoby Myers (vs TEN)

• Downturn recently, but “Still keeping it open on Jacoby Myers as a mid-tier WR3…six targets every game but one.”
  (Connor Rogers, 38:06)

David Njoku (TE, vs PIT)

• “Keeping it open…tight end eight. He’s the number one target for Dylan Gabriel until further notice.”
  (Connor Rogers, 39:08)

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3. Player Usage Trends and Frustrations

Recurring theme throughout player discussion, e.g. 17:51+ (Kamara), 24:00+ (Charbonnet)

• The analysts repeatedly warn about RBs (Stevenson, Charbonnet, Montgomery) whose fantasy value is “TD-or-bust.”
• A.J. Brown’s struggles: Matt Harmon’s “Reception Perception” and the debate about whether Brown’s downturn is physical, mental, or “diva receiver” frustration with the offensive scheme (28:57 - 31:33).
• 2025’s state of offenses: Several references to how “bad” certain lines and playcalling are, yet also how fantasy managers can profit from chaos if they focus on usage, not just big names.

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4. Blind Date Segment (Metrics-Driven Identification Game)

Begins ~43:14 - 52:34

The crew tries to guess players based only on advanced usage stats (“Blind Date”):

• Notable Players Identified:
  • Quinshon Judkins: “A hold or buy,” despite low passing usage because “he is in a run-heavy offense, and they use him when they get in close” (Connor Rogers, 44:27)
  • J.K. Dobbins: “Potential sell-high…he needs to score to pay off in fantasy.” (Connor Rogers, 46:46)
  • David Montgomery: “More or less a hold,” floor > ceiling, but “a flex play with a chance to score a TD every week.” (Matthew Berry, 48:15)
  • Drake London and Tetairoa McMillan: Both have great underlying target shares, underperforming so far, marking them as possible “buy-lows.”

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5. Back to the Futures Bets

(54:29)

• T.J. Watt: Defensive Player of the Year “isn’t allowed to be 25-to-1.” (Jay Croucher)
• Tyler Warren: Offensive Rookie of the Year as a way voters might “reward the Colts’ season.” (Connor Rogers)
• Dak Prescott: Deep MVP odds, boosted by cakewalk schedule ahead. (Matthew Berry)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Flacco’s quick release:

  “There’s a little bit of yolo to Joe Flacco.”
  —Connor Rogers, 08:25

• On A.J. Brown’s mystery decline:

  “He has been one of the least efficient receivers in the NFL after being a top five receiver in the sport. So I don’t understand it at all.”
  —Jay Croucher, 28:18

• On “Diva WR” mentality:

  “You talk to [QBs] a lot…and the answer is: I always knew a quick bubble screen, a quick slant…just to make sure they were engaged.”
  —Matthew Berry, 30:24

• On RB pitfalls:

  “He’s so touchdown dependent…He’s running in mud.” —Connor Rogers on Stevenson, 22:42

• On fantasy letdowns:

  “Every Bengal fan knows, every time you count on the Bengals they bone you.” —Connor Rogers, 15:10

• Banter highlight:
  The recurring bit on British/Australian language (“best running back in the sport?”) and regional nicknames. (18:24–20:23)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Bengals/Flacco Reaction: 06:27–15:59
• Justin Herbert Start/Sit: 16:00–17:36
• Alvin Kamara Deep-Dive: 17:36–21:39
• Ramondre Stevenson/Charbonnet Analysis: 21:39–25:55
• A.J. Brown Crisis: 25:55–33:18
• DJ Moore and Jacoby Myers Discussion: 33:59–39:08
• Blind Date (Advanced Stats Game): 43:14–52:34
• Futures Bets & Wrap: 54:29–End

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Summary Table: Start/Sit Recommendations

| Player | Recommendation | Rank/Reasoning | |--------------------------|--------------------|------------------------------------------------------------| | Justin Herbert | Keep it open/start | “QB5 this week, dream matchup vs. Miami” | | Alvin Kamara | Keep it open/start | RB23, “ppr usage rising, tough matchup but viable” | | Ramondre Stevenson | Close it out/sit | RB29, “touchdown dependent, minimal pass game work” | | Zach Charbonnet | Close it out/sit | RB32, “goal line annoyance, not startable otherwise” | | A.J. Brown | Keep it open/start | WR21 “one more chance vs. NYG, but big worries” | | Jacoby Myers | Keep it open/start | WR26, “still earning 6+ targets/game, great matchup” | | DJ Moore | Close it out/sit | WR37, “Rome Odunze show, little upside” | | David Njoku | Keep it open/start | TE8, “top target for Dylan Gabriel, strong matchup” |

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Final Thoughts

Despite the laughs and irreverence, there’s serious analysis: The hosts urge caution with name value players in funk, highlight changing usage trends, and repeatedly recommend trading fading assets for 75 cents on the dollar if a league mate gets “Flacco-hopeful.” The “Blind Date” segment gives savvy owners clues about analytic buy-lows (London, McMillan) versus fragile sells (Montgomery, Dobbins).

The episode is prime Berry: equal parts strategy clinic and sports bar. Whether you’re 5-0 or desperate for a win, the “Fantasy Football Happy Hour” keeps you sharp and smiling.

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Transcript

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[Connor Rogers]

We're on live television for an hour basically every single day. And every day we join the show. I'm usually like -400 to get us canceled in order to get myself cancelled, to be trending on. On X. Like, oh, you know, can't believe it, right?

[Matthew Berry]

You know, especially when you're live.

[Jay Croucher]

Oh, Exactly.

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I mean, 100%.

[Matthew Berry]

One of the regulars could just clip whatever they want.

[Jay Croucher]

I do.

[Matthew Berry]

See you later.

[Connor Rogers]

100%. But, you know, Jay, Jay, whack on that tightrope. I like it. Fair enough.

[Jay Croucher]

Did you see the Jags videos? There's no doubt that something of global international importance has developed in that phone.

[Matthew Berry]

It's a wild scene.

[Guest Analyst]

Fantasy Football Happy Hour with Matthew Berry.

[Matthew Berry]

Welcome to the Fantasy Football Happy Hour. Conor Rogers, Matthew Berry, J. Croucher.

[Jay Croucher]

Not canceled.

[Connor Rogers]

Not one more day. Thank you to the regulars for keeping it all, you know, in house.

[Jay Croucher]

Frank. I'm surprised you guys thought it was controversial, my implication that Mark Brunel started the coronavirus. I don't know why you think that that's strange.

[Matthew Berry]

Blame someone else every day. I like that.

[Jay Croucher]

Strange.

[Guest Analyst]

See ya.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, listen, as somebody, as somebody who's a fan of the commanders who paid way too much for Mark Brunel for a bunch of mediocre years. His quarterback, you know, he was over. I can. I'm sort of. Well, I don't know if I can get behind that particular statement, but I'm here for Mark Brunel. I'm here for Mark Brunel. Slander. Although I Did meet him once, and he was lovely. He was a very nice guy. That's the problem.

[Jay Croucher]

You don't want to meet people you dislike because there's a chance they might be nice.

[Connor Rogers]

That's happened to me a lot.

[Matthew Berry]

I feel like a jerk for a long time. You got a good example?

[Connor Rogers]

A zillion examples. Oh, my God. Every day of my life. You know what I mean? First time I met Jay Croucher.

[Matthew Berry]

Right. I can't believe it. It's not that bad.

[Connor Rogers]

It's actually not as terrible as you think.

[Matthew Berry]

He is father of three.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

He's around his kids once in a while.

[Connor Rogers]

Once in a while.

[Matthew Berry]

Not too bad.

[Connor Rogers]

Exactly. Exactly. He's throwing on encanto while he's making parlay bets.

[Matthew Berry]

By the way, your fame is growing.

[Connor Rogers]

Is it?

[Matthew Berry]

It is, yes. You got a little bit more famous in the last 24 hours.

[Connor Rogers]

Let's go.

[Matthew Berry]

This is this lovely tweet from the Jacksonville Jaguars. And then somewhere in there.

[Connor Rogers]

Oh, look at that.

[Matthew Berry]

Matthew Berry, the Traveler catching on. It is catching on.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah. People, I feel like this is now official now that Jaguars on app has not only taken my twee and put it in their big social media post about all the social media conversation and celebration around the Jaguars big win over the Chiefs on Monday night, but they put them right above Trevor Lawrence. Like that's. That's prime real estate that I've got right there, right above the helmet. Your eye goes right to it. I'm sort of the crown, if you will, of Trevor Lawrence, or as America is starting to call him, the Traveler.

[Matthew Berry]

That's right.

[Connor Rogers]

As you can see. Yeah.

[Guest Analyst]

Look at.

[Connor Rogers]

Look at Jay Croucher tweeting.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah. I see myself as a police officer of order on social media and I just have to bring it to attention. As I tweeted. It's completely absurd. Matthew, the old tweet calling Lawrence the Traveler made the graphic normalizing the traveler.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

And so I'm looking forward to Texans admin replicating this when Nick the Chubbler chubb scores a walk off Teddy. And then we will. I'm.

[Connor Rogers]

I'm down with Texan social media using the Chubbler. But today, social media team, you guys all drink for free. We love you Swaguars. Jackson deville. You and everyone there in Jacksonville drink for free. Duvall.

[Jay Croucher]

Yes.

[Connor Rogers]

Taking over.

[Jay Croucher]

It was 50 50. The chalkboard was going to be the Aaron Judge having the biggest moment of his career or. Yeah, the Jag social media team inadvertently promoting the Traveler. Either way. Could have gone either way.

[Connor Rogers]

I have to tell you something, all social media teams, especially the Jacksonville Jaguar social media team, nothing's by accident. They're very smart about it. They understand. They understand the algorithms. They understand what America wants. They understand what the youth of today are craving.

[Matthew Berry]

Huge analytics department over there.

[Connor Rogers]

Huge analytics.

[Matthew Berry]

They ran the numbers.

[Connor Rogers]

The Jaguars, actually one of the analytically savvy teams in the NFL as well, shout out to my guy, Tony Khan, by the way, 2 million networks. We love Tony, by the way. Tony Khan, proud fantasy life investor, FYI. So, yeah, the Crouchler is mad Therapy Rob should know 100%.

[Matthew Berry]

You should meet with Therapy Rob.

[Connor Rogers]

Would you like to go on the couch with Therapy Rob Crouchler?

[Jay Croucher]

I don't know. Why is his photo like that? What's he doing?

[Connor Rogers]

What kind of photo?

[Matthew Berry]

Looks like a stock photo.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, I have questions. I'm scared of that. I don't want to go on that man's couch. Sorry, Rob.

[Matthew Berry]

We'll find you a different therapist.

[Jay Croucher]

Meet you publish somewhere. Yeah, not on YouTube.

[Matthew Berry]

It is Wednesday here at the happy hour bar, which means we got our start segment. Keeping open or close it out. By the way, we're with. We're with backup producer.

[Connor Rogers]

That's what I thought you meant. I thought you meant it to Wednesday show, which means backup producer Pete, which obviously is already off the rails.

[Matthew Berry]

Stephen nowhere to be found since the Jacksonville win.

[Connor Rogers]

No, yesterday was Adam, today was Pete. Yeah, exactly. Producer Steven went to a. Went to, I think the only Jacksonville Jaguars bar in New York City.

[Jay Croucher]

I hope it's the only one.

[Connor Rogers]

If there's more than one, I have some questions. And potentially the world outside have Jacksonville. Anyway. No. So he went there and, you know, got, you know, completely blitzed, obviously celebrating what an incredible win for the Jaguars. And then we have not heard. He has been MIA for two and a half days. Another week of this and we may actually start looking for him. To be honest, so far, we're not super concerned. We're just kind of like, he'll probably turn up.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

At some point.

[Matthew Berry]

But if he doesn't for a show.

[Connor Rogers]

But if he. Well, but if he doesn't, like, you.

[Matthew Berry]

Know, the show can just kind of do itself. The programming, the AI version.

[Connor Rogers]

Backup producer Pete proves that it really doesn't take much to do the show any given day.

[Jay Croucher]

It says a lot that a Week 5 regular season win is the greatest moment of Stephen's life. I would say the greatest moment. Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Good for him, 100%. By the way, his wife agrees.

[Jay Croucher]

Yes. Jackson 4:1 is a big deal. That's More important than getting married.

[Matthew Berry]

Keep it open, close it out. America's new favorite segment, wine.

[Connor Rogers]

Tastefully, he can potentially get married again. Who knows if the Jags will see four and one again.

[Matthew Berry]

That's true. When you actually run, the odds, one is higher than the other. And I'm not going to say which. We close out the show with our back to the futures bets, as we always do, looking well, far in advance. But let's get to some rotoworld player news. The biggest problem. The biggest problem in America has been solved. The Bengals have a new quarterback. It is Joe Flacco to the Browns. Jay is actually clapping right now. Can you believe it? Comeback Bengals.

[Connor Rogers]

New Joe, comeback player of the year. Joe Flacco and Connor. You know what they say, if you can't beat them, join them. Joe Flacco, the newest member of the chubby leather daddies. Jay putting a healthy bid on Joe Flacco last night. So it's just outrageous. Like he's cost you a lot of money and then you dropped even more money on Joe Flacco. Bunch of fab bids. But you see here what Joe Flacco did in his previous starts with the Browns. Here's my take. It can't get any worse. Like, I put out a quick video, a quick social reaction because the news came out literally like five minutes after we wrapped the show yesterday. And so I put up a quick reaction video on social. Just saying, like this is good. This is good for the Bengals because it's change again, if you want to look at underlying metrics, that's the worst quarterback in the NFL on, you know, on an EP basis per play.

[Jay Croucher]

Jake Browning matches the test.

[Connor Rogers]

Right?

[Jay Croucher]

Second.

[Matthew Berry]

Right again.

[Connor Rogers]

Right. Second worst on EPA per play is Joe Flacco.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, exactly.

[Connor Rogers]

But. But it's an improvement.

[Jay Croucher]

Yes.

[Connor Rogers]

And. And I would argue, Jay, here's why I think it's a positive. A couple of different reasons. Number one is, all right, so you're going from worst to second worst. All right, that is legitimately improvement. Secondly, the fact is, is that Joe Flacco was on a run neutral or run heavy team, depending on sort of the script, throwing to like mostly Jerry Judy and like Isaiah Bond, right. Whereas Jake Browning was throwing to Jamar Chase and T. Higgins. And so there's certainly a significant talent upgrade for Joe Flacco here. And the third part of it is, is that I feel like one of the issues with, with Jake Browning. And to be fair to Jake Browning, they played the Broncos, they played the Vikings, they played the Lions. They played three of the better defenses in the NFL. It's been a tough run in terms of and doesn't get any easier this week against the Packers. But Browning, I felt like because he is mobile, held onto the ball a little bit too long, tried to run around a little bit, tried to make something happen. Joe Flacco is going to get rid of that ball so quick. He's not going to hit. The ball is coming out quickly. And so I do believe as bad as that offensive line is, the fact that Flacco will get rid of the ball quickly and he's not scared to throw into double coverage. He's not scared to like take a shot. There's a little bit of yolo to Joe Flacco that I think Browning was probably a little bit more conservative. I think this will help. And then the final thing, guys, is it's just different. Like it's clearly not working. And so like just variance. Jay, I feel like helps this out.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, no, I think that's a reasonable take. I think that Jake Browning, he was just saying ghosts out there. By the end he was like, I can't remember who's the starting quarterback who keeps Jamie Fox. No, no. Who keeps Jamie Foxx on the bench in any given Sunday. He's like that, the old quarterback, the starter who's just like, doesn't know what's going on anymore. So Jake Browning, I see you couldn't trot him out there again.

[Connor Rogers]

It was Dennis Quaid.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, exactly.

[Matthew Berry]

Dennis Quaid, quarterback.

[Jay Croucher]

Yes. So I just think that it's one of those things where there's 52 other guys on the roster who are, you know, putting that long term health at risk. And I just think you can't throw Jake Browning out there after what he had done the previous three weeks. Flacco is different. I think that in terms of just the drop back pass game, it'll be more effective. He's shown and you can hope that he can create the kind of connection with Jamar Chase or T. Higgins that he had with Amari Cooper when he was in Cleveland a couple years ago. So there's upside there. The problem is Connor is that like how long is he going to last behind this offensive line?

[Matthew Berry]

What everybody has to be concerned about. I saw somebody, I think it was Louis Garcia in our chat said he's going to be jogging for his life. I thought that was quite good.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

Sauntering for his life.

[Matthew Berry]

Right.

[Connor Rogers]

This line's been buoying for his life.

[Matthew Berry]

It's been really, really bad. You Just hope that, as Matthew said, with the average time to throw, hopefully getting a little better here and getting not just quick game going, but getting the ball out to Chase, notably Chase Higgins. We'll see if he gets some of the yolo balls that you hope for Higgins, but I think Chase is where that factor is.

[Connor Rogers]

Well, just because, listen, he. He has deep speed. Flacco can still throw the deep ball. And like we always, you know, the joke is, is that Jamar Chase always open, right? Like he's in Santa, Like, I'm always open. So even when Jamar Chase has somebody draped all over him, he can come down with the ball. Like the first touchdown catch last week, he was literally in triple coverage and came somehow came down to the ball and on the sideline of the end zone and somehow came down with that ball in the middle of three defenders and got both feet down. Like, you know, Jamar Chase is always open, and so if you're willing to chuck it to him, more often than not, he's going to come down with the ball. I think hopefully this helps Ja' Marr Chase. I'm sorry. Hopefully this helped Chase Brown and T. Higgins, just because I think the offense will be at least slightly more efficient. I think they'll potentially be in scoring, you know, range quickly. And you just saw the schedule there. Once you get past the packers, it gets a lot easier. You know, the Steelers aren't the same defense as they are. You've got some. Got some other games coming up that are, I think, much easier than the stretch they've been through.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, Flacco, if he doesn't get killed by Micah Parsons or T.J. watt the next two weeks, then it does get a little bit easier. They got the Ravens on the schedule again coming up soon. J. Bears. Those matchups don't scare you either. So in those matchups, I think it will be okay, but it's just against the really elite defenses, like we're going to learn. Well, it's his first week, so, like, write the book on Flacco based on how he performs against the packers on the road. By the way, playing them for the second time in a month, which is kind of a tough break for Joe.

[Connor Rogers]

Franco, by the way. Second time in a month, by the way. And they've had two weeks to prepare for this game because, you know, they were on the bye last week and then they had the disappointing tie against the Cowboys, so they're angry. But by the way, they beat the packers the last time they played as well.

[Jay Croucher]

So Flacco going to and oh against the packers this year would be one of the most random things that very him.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, very, very hands.

[Connor Rogers]

I don't playing twice.

[Matthew Berry]

I don't think this improves the run game for Chase Brown simply because this line cannot run block. I do wonder if it improves how many dump offs and exactly that he gets.

[Connor Rogers]

Flacco, I could not agree more like the offensive line is he can't run but I do. Flacco again he's going. He doesn't want to get hit. He's whatever. He's 44. No, he plays quarterback the way you know, slow, lethargic, quickly get the ball out. He's got a bigger arm than I do but yes, I think he would be. Yes, he would be quick to. He'll be quick to dump off. There'll be kind of those cheap dump offs to Chase Brown. I do think he. I anyway there's always a chance that somebody gets home on him and just you know, rings the bell. But I do think he's going to quick. He's going to have a very. He's going to quickly get rid of the ball, you know in a way that we have not seen.

[Matthew Berry]

When you say Cooper cup yesterday, the end is near.

[Jay Croucher]

Sending Cooper cup into an early death. Now Flacco is next.

[Connor Rogers]

Oh, the end is. The end is near for his elite fantasy value, talented Mr. Roto aka the Grim Reaper.

[Matthew Berry]

Just knocking on doors.

[Connor Rogers]

Of all the controversial statements, the of all the controversial statements that were said on yesterday's show, that is. That's down on the list. Don't try to say yes, everyone knows but I am the. I am the not so slim Reaper. There's, there's no question about that backup producer Pete joke. There you go.

[Matthew Berry]

Keep it open or close it out. It's time to answer some start sitting.

[Connor Rogers]

Well, that's one less thing. Yes, one last thing. I will say that I do think there is going to be general optimism around just the idea of Joe Flacco of replacing Jake Browning. So I think if somebody if you have one of those guys and you can get a reasonable offer for any three of those guys because the promise of Joe Flacco, I would do it because do I think Joe Flacco is an improvement over Jake Browning? Sure do. I think he's a significant improvement. Probably not. And he's definitely not Joe Burrow. So again you drafted these guys with the idea that Joe Burrow is going to be in charge of this offense and like it's been awful. Look, Chase Brown was my Third round pick and it's like it's helped sink my team. It's not the only reason. But it is certainly up there when you're owing 5.

[Matthew Berry]

There's a few reasons.

[Connor Rogers]

1000% ask an answer, no question. I know.

[Jay Croucher]

I.

[Connor Rogers]

No, but it is. Right. I mean but Chase George Kittle in you.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

So one.

[Connor Rogers]

Wow. That one kills. But no. My first three picks were Jaden Daniels, Derrick Henry, Chase Brown. One guy missed, you know, two of the first five games and left one early and then the other two guys have just sucked.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

I mean you know when those are your first three picks it was. It's a two quarterback league. You know. There you go.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Is what it is. And my fourth, I think my fourth round pick was either Xavier Worthy or Mike Evans. So I mean like again. And then the fifth one was the other guy who. Those were my four and five picks were Worthy at Evans.

[Jay Croucher]

So it's like should have taken JSN like I did.

[Connor Rogers]

Should have. Yes, would have, could have, should have.

[Matthew Berry]

Mr. T reminding you Matthew knows the Bengals bone you. That's a callback to last year to the 060.

[Connor Rogers]

Sure. And they do. Every Bengal fan knows that every time you count on the Bengals they bone you.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

And that's what happened. I should have listened to my own lesson. I drafted Chase Brown and he has boned me. I've been boned.

[Jay Croucher]

Speaking of Joe Flacco, the most promiscuous AFC north quarterback of our time. So he's going to be on the Steelers next year then he go 4 for 4.

[Matthew Berry]

It could very well happen also.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah. That's like probably the favorite. Design him to back up. Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Once Rodgers retires we need another old non mobile quarterback.

[Matthew Berry]

Let's keep it going.

[Connor Rogers]

Joe Flacco is out there as a, as a free agent. Anyway, just to finish that last thought is that if somebody is willing to give you 75 cents on the dollar for those guys, you know in terms of draft day value, I would take that because I do think the. Again I think it's an improvement. I think if you have those guys you're, you're happy because anyone be better than Jake Browning. But the. The promise of Flacco might be better than the reality.

[Jay Croucher]

Agreed.

[Matthew Berry]

All right, keep it open. Close it out. We start with Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert at Miami. Three straight games under 15 fantasy points. Been a little bit of a slump for Herbert after such a hot start. Especially both as a passer and a runner. But Matthew still a top five play for you. I'm sure the matchup helps here.

[Connor Rogers]

It certainly does. Dolphins give up the third most fantasy points to opposing quarterbacks. They're also allowing the second most yards per pass attempt. And even with the emergence of Amari and Hampton over the last couple of weeks, still to date, the Chargers are the team that lead the NFL in pass rate over expectation with no Amari and Hampton. Sigh. Sad. I think they will go more pass heavy I think on the road at Miami. I think again, given the matchup and given sort of what they have there, they're going to have to figure out the pass blocking. Right. They've. But against Miami it should have been a little bit easier. So I just think uptick to McConkey, Allen and QJ maybe some arundi Gadson gets. You know, he's been out there a decent amount. It hasn't shown up in the box score but you know, his route participation and his snapshare continues to rise. We like the talent of Gadsden. So that's what I think happens here is I don't think maybe Haskins falls into the end zone, but I'm still a believer in Justin Herbert, who thanks to that, the offensive line is also running more these days. What do you have 60 yards against the Commanders last week?

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah. Well, you said they might need to figure out the pass blocking. Maybe not. Maybe not against the Dolphins because the Dolphins, the Dolphins D line was supposed to be the strength of the defense.

[Connor Rogers]

Terrible.

[Jay Croucher]

Everything is terrible. It's, it's just, it's an untenable defense at the moment in Miami. So if Herbert is ever going to get right relatively, this is a dream matchup. So you'd be mad not to start.

[Matthew Berry]

Alvin Kamara, also on our list here, guys got a Patriots defense that is very, very hard for running backs to get anything going on. And for Camara right now, Jay, it's been three straight games under 12 fantasy points. We've talked about this a lot. Kendra Miller is eating into this backfield.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah. Difficult matchup to your point against the Patriots, who are getting healthier on defense as well. And by the way, James Cook, who's the top three running back in the sport in terms of fantasy points accumulated, couldn't do anything against the Patriots. 49 yards, I think. Yep. Very inefficient as well on Sunday Night Football. So Alvin Kamara, I think that for the most part he's still going to start him. I think there is a lot of scope for some PPR scammery here, Matthew, but it's turning the wrong Direction for Kamaru. We're headed to the trade deadline as well. I don't think they want to give him the ball a ton if they're going to be moving him in a couple of weeks.

[Connor Rogers]

Probably not. And. And we like Kendra Miller, we think he's a stash, by the way. Can we. Before. Before we get to this, can we just point out the fact, like, do you hear Jay be like, oh, he's a top three running back in the sport?

[Matthew Berry]

In the sport.

[Connor Rogers]

In the sport. Very, like, very British of you, even though you're Australian. Yeah, yeah. It's a Chelsea football show. What premier leagues are we talking about here?

[Jay Croucher]

It's just providing context.

[Matthew Berry]

There's a little bit of syntax at the end.

[Jay Croucher]

Nothing wrong with that.

[Connor Rogers]

It's a weird one, right? People say that, right?

[Jay Croucher]

Joe Buckle say that. It's an Australian British thing.

[Matthew Berry]

I don't know if that's in the.

[Commercial Announcer]

Joe Buck.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, maybe not Joe.

[Guest Analyst]

Dave Davis.

[Connor Rogers]

Joe Buck's actually a good announcer.

[Jay Croucher]

Joe Davis.

[Connor Rogers]

Actually, Joe Davis is pretty good, too.

[Jay Croucher]

Joe Davis nailed the judge call off. Anyway, tangent. Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

So anyway, for those of you that are wondering, is James Cook like a top three back in, like, Australian Rules Football? No, no, Jay meant specifically just in the NFL in this sport. Not. He's not like a top three guy in tennis, you know, or golf specifically.

[Jay Croucher]

It's like, I'm going to say Josh Allen is the best quarterback in the NFL.

[Connor Rogers]

You don't have to say in the NFL.

[Jay Croucher]

Was he the best quarterback of. It's just the way Nice. You know?

[Matthew Berry]

Do we say in the NFL.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, we say in the NFL.

[Connor Rogers]

We do, but not in the sport.

[Matthew Berry]

Not sport, yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

Josh Allen's the best quarterback in the sport.

[Connor Rogers]

That sounds very British.

[Jay Croucher]

Okay.

[Connor Rogers]

Sounds very British. I did a panel yesterday. I did a panel yesterday with Rock.

[Commercial Announcer]

With.

[Connor Rogers]

With Roger Bennett. Roger Bennett, who hosts Men in Blazers, does a great job if you're. If you're a fan of soccer or.

[Guest Analyst]

Or football.

[Connor Rogers]

He does a great job. Anyway, I really enjoyed it. But it's hilarious because, you know, I'm like, I spent an hour every day of my life with an Australian. And then I went and did an hour panel for Ad Week with Roger.

[Matthew Berry]

Differences.

[Applebee's Advertiser]

Well, he's good.

[Connor Rogers]

The difference is that Roger's really good. He's got a command of the English language, but he would say stuff like, you know, the sport. He had all these Britishisms. You know, he's very charming.

[Jay Croucher]

You know, what happened?

[Connor Rogers]

What's that?

[Jay Croucher]

Britain. They sent all their criminals to Australia and that's how I became me.

[Connor Rogers]

That's fair. That is true.

[Matthew Berry]

We've gone down some wild roads in two days.

[Connor Rogers]

That's true. Everyone knows Australia is the land of criminals.

[Jay Croucher]

Yes.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

People actually don't realize it was Mark Vernell who made the decision to signal the criminals to Australia.

[Connor Rogers]

That I believe. Research Damian, look that up. But I'm almost positive back to Alvin Kamara, who is neither Australian nor a criminal to the best of our knowledge here, but he is somebody I'm keeping it open around right I'm at running back 23. I get all the concerns. I get the Kendra mental concern. I got the concern of the Patriots. Here's my argument for Alvin Kamara. It's a borderline keeping it open but I am keeping it open again. I have a high end flex, low end RB2. It's about the passing game usage. We saw that a little bit last week. He started to get more involved, more of the PPR scammery that we saw all last year. Camara was used more in the passing game. The Patriots allow the fifth highest catch rate to running backs running back targets so far this season he's had a back to back games with at least a 19% target share. So he's starting to be used more in the passing game the way he was last season. To your point about the Patriots defensive line which is good, I don't think they will run effectively for them so I do think the way they move the ball is they're going to have to throw and so Spencer Rattler, he's going to be throwing to a lobby, he's going to be throwing to Rashid Shahid. But I do think given the strength of that Patriots defense there'll be some dump offs here to Kamara. So and you know he's probably got a 5050 shot getting in the end zone. So give me running back 23 on.

[Matthew Berry]

The other side of this, this same game, Ramandre Stevenson against the Saints. Kind of been a touchdown merchant Matthew, but it's working if you're really desperate.

[Connor Rogers]

His box score last week was so disgusting.

[Matthew Berry]

I mean here it is.

[Connor Rogers]

I mean here it is. Yeah, 7 for 14. 7 for 14. But two total touchdowns in a game in which I desperately need Drake May to do some touchdowns.

[Matthew Berry]

It's like the Gus bus reincarnated.

[Connor Rogers]

So, so brutal. And a fumble and like I was like well is he done after the fumble? No. And then Antonio Gibson gets hurt. They hate Travion Henderson there. I don't get it. But. But either way I mean Randre Stevenson, not somebody I'm a big fan of fantasy wise. This weekend against the Saints, I'm closing it out on Ramon Ray Stevenson. I was at running back 29. He's had one game this year with a double digit target share. Previously like that was sort of the calling card was he was getting all this passing game work. He's not getting that anymore. Just one game with a target share over 9%. He hasn't had more than 10 touches in a game since week two. He is so touchdown dependent. And just against the Saints, I don't, I don't love the opportunities there. I, I think you will see more Trevion Henderson because of the injury to Antonio Gibson and I just, I believe in that kid's talent so much more than Ramondre who has looked like he's running in mud.

[Matthew Berry]

You would think they do too with the draft capital they used on him. They just. There's not enough trust there right now. This from K Gemma89 lol Ramandre the Fumbler Stevenson.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, yeah, that one actually makes a lot of sense. That actually works.

[Jay Croucher]

That does work.

[Connor Rogers]

It's not really a nickname, it's more of a descriptor. The fumbler is an actual word.

[Matthew Berry]

Don't think the Patriots are going to tweet that one out.

[Jay Croucher]

Why is he returning kicks? I know Antonio Gibson's doing it and then he gets hurt.

[Matthew Berry]

This is kind of a trend in the NFL though right now. These bigger backs are return. I don't think it's working by the way. But I've seen it with multiple teams.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, I just don't understand like guys got a fumble issue. What do you want him like full speed, high collision against other bodies, how.

[Matthew Berry]

Brian Allen got hurt.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, exactly. I don't get that at all. But anyway, it was like Travion Henderson, if anything should be the returning six.

[Matthew Berry]

He's actually fast.

[Connor Rogers]

It's a great point.

[Matthew Berry]

No, you're 100% right.

[Connor Rogers]

The only thing I can think of is that mid game they're like who's. Who's up that can do this and Ramon probably has some experience doing that, so I'd be surprised if he is. I suspect they will. They will elevate somebody to play on special teams to do that specifically. I'd be surprised. I mean who the hell knows, but I'd be surprised. It was Ramondre Stevenson returning kicks this week for the Patriots.

[Matthew Berry]

Jay. Another running back with the same playbook as Ramondre is Zach Charbonnet. You need him to score a touchdown to be viable right now.

[Jay Croucher]

It's so painful if you're a Ken Walker manager. It just feels like it hasn't been that many times, but it feels like it's been like 50 times this year. Ken Walker has some amazing run. To get to the three yard line is gas. They bring in Zach Charbonnet at the goal line and I think that will be sustainable. I think Charbonnet will continue to get goal line work but he's not going to keep score. He scored touchdowns in three of his four games this year. That is not going to continue at that rate. He's just. His workload is trending down. Ken Walker kind of looks explosive. He looks fantastic. So I think the Zach Charbonnet at this point, he's really just an insurance back. If Ken Walker gets hurt, I think.

[Matthew Berry]

He'Ll do enough to be annoying though. Still Ken Walker, which is the problem. You don't want to start him, but I don't think he's just going to fall off a cliff. I think Kubiak likes using both of them. Clearly Matthew, he does but the problem.

[Connor Rogers]

Is, is like so he's not involved in the passing game on the season. He's got a 3.6% target share, like under 20 receiving yards total on the season. Right. So he's done involved in the passing game. So it really is. Does he fall into the end zone and he did last week. You know, Walker has these, these big long plays and then has to come out at the 5 and Walker Falls into the end zone. But like even in games which he scores a touchdown, he's barely, he's usable but that's about it. The three games in which he scored a touch on this year, he still has had under 13 fantasy points in all those games. Like he's scoring a touchdown and he's still under 13 fantasy points as well. Jaguars. Our Jaguars. Jay, you and I, we love the swag. You ares. Sure, sure.

[Jay Croucher]

I'm a Colts man, but a little jag on the side. Nothing wrong with that.

[Connor Rogers]

Well listen, you know me and their social media team like we're boys. Yeah, yeah, you know, nothing wrong with that. And so anyway, Jacksonville worth noting social media team. Your Jaguars allowing the six fewest rushing yards per game to running backs. They're giving up under 4 yards per carry. Jacksonville has a legit defense. Jacksonville has a legit defense this year. So Charbonnet outside my top 30 for the week. I'm closing it out.

[Matthew Berry]

Our next one, A.J. brown, he's on the short week against the Giants Thursday Night Football head coach of the Giants, Brian Dabel, had some interesting thoughts on A.J. brown's season so far.

[Brian Dabel]

Yeah, you watch all the games, and you watch him when he's out there. Get open. Big, strong, fast, has good hands, can run any route you want him to run.

[Guest Analyst]

Sure.

[Brian Dabel]

They can throw him the ball as many times they want. That means Saquon doesn't get it or give it to Saquon, and AJ doesn't get it.

[Jay Croucher]

There's one ball.

[Brian Dabel]

They're all really good players. Smitty. I mean, I've been around Smitty. I think he's an exceptional receiver, too. So. So I think. I'm sure whatever they want to do or think they need to do, that's what they'll do. You have to watch the tape. AJ's open a lot, so. But give it to Saquon. He's got productive yards. You run his own read or throw it to Smitty. There's another thing. There's a lot of weapons, I would say, on that offense, and whatever they choose to do is what they do.

[Jay Croucher]

You would have been great on there.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, we have a lot going on there. A lot of words.

[Matthew Berry]

AJ Brown, I think they were in Alabama together.

[Jay Croucher]

Okay.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer]

Or.

[Matthew Berry]

Or at least some kind of crossover.

[Jay Croucher]

I'll tie that all out.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, he definitely knows.

[Connor Rogers]

What would have been great if.

[Jay Croucher]

Pick up the flag, though.

[Connor Rogers]

It would have been great if day ball just ended that thing. Like, look, guys, I'm out here with Wandell Robinson, the ghost of Darius Slayton. Like, I would kill Frey J. Brown. You understand? Like, I don't have Malik neighbors anymore.

[Jay Croucher]

Here's the thing, by the way.

[Connor Rogers]

Darius Slayton, now questionable for Thursday night, doesn't look good. Yeah, it does not look good.

[Matthew Berry]

But, hey, Jalen Hyatt. It'll be fine.

[Connor Rogers]

Jalen Hyatt, Theo Johnson. It's another. Theo Johnson rides again. I just, you know. Yeah. I understand why day ball is looking longingly over at A.J. brown, given what he's dealing with with A.J.

[Jay Croucher]

Brown. And I don't want to accuse Brian Dabel of being a liar, but he's lying because A.J. brown is not open. He's not getting open all the time.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah, but it's good content.

[Jay Croucher]

It is good content. I enjoyed the little. Yeah, I don't know what he was saying there. I don't know what those words meant, but AJ Brown is not getting open. Matt Harmon, who does a great job at reception perception, he did a deep dive on A.J. brown about how A.J. brown, his ability to separate his ability to beat man coverage. Zone coverage has completely fallen off a cliff this year. You look at his just his game log this season, outside of the Rams game where they were playing in catch up mode the whole time in the second half, dropping back every single play to throw the ball, he's done nothing. He had nine targets against the Bucks.

[Connor Rogers]

Who just turned Sam Darnold into peak.

[Jay Croucher]

Joe Montana on the weekend, and he had the seven yards off of nine targets. To me, A.J. brown is the most interesting player in the NFL right now because I don't know if he just got old overnight and is completely done or if he's just mentally checked out this offense because he was upset that they're running the ball so much. But right now he has been one of the least efficient receivers in the NFL after being, I think for the past four or five years a top five receiver in the sport. So I don't, I don't understand it at all.

[Connor Rogers]

Weird that you're accusing somebody who once was caught on the sideline reading a book that he may have checked out.

[Matthew Berry]

But I mean like, definitely not physical to me.

[Jay Croucher]

No, I mean he's just done.

[Connor Rogers]

He was blowing right, blowing by guys in the Rams.

[Jay Croucher]

That's the thing. That's probably the tell.

[Connor Rogers]

And I also feel like I. So maybe he's just like whatever, some sort of weird passive aggressive thing. I also feel like AJ Brown is not one of these guys that always needs to be wide open, like a big, physical wide receiver. Like, I feel like if you get it near A.J. brown, he's coming down with the ball. Like, I, I don't feel like there are certain wide receivers where I feel like a lack of separation is more concerning than it is with A.J. brown. Right? Yeah. But, yeah, I don't. It doesn't. It.

[Jay Croucher]

What do you think?

[Connor Rogers]

Matt Harmon does it. Matt Harmon does a great job, but I just, I don't know.

[Guest Analyst]

I.

[Connor Rogers]

To me, it doesn't feel physical. Like just from the eye test, from what I've looked at.

[Jay Croucher]

Oh yeah. I don't think Matt was saying it was definitely physical. It's just like he's just not getting open. He's not creating separation. So what do you think it is?

[Matthew Berry]

I don't think he has faith that he's going to get chances down the field. And when you're running routes and you don't have belief that you're going to get those chances, sometimes it's not right. Sometimes you.

[Connor Rogers]

Maybe they're just. All they're doing is handing off to Saquon, whatever. I'll, I'll, you know, I'll go through the paces.

[Matthew Berry]

But he doesn't believe in their passing attack. We've heard, listen to all his post games. We've heard this year that he thinks they're not aggressive enough early on. We've heard in some, not verbatim, but that they're not creative enough like, that they don't throw enough early. There's not urgency with the pass game. I think he finally is just his unfortunately kind of leaned into like, okay, this isn't getting any better receivers, receivers especially like him, who are very interesting. They are. They need to get momentum throughout a game. When you go weeks of it being like this, you see this a lot with guys.

[Connor Rogers]

And I like as somebody who has worked with a lot of former pro quarterbacks, both here and at ESPN and just in general, you know, doing various shows and everything like that. Like, you talk to him a lot and you know, there's always the joke about the diva wide receiver. But, but, but in all seriousness, that there is, you know, where there's a joke, there's fire, so to speak. And that's. It's true. Like a lot of wide receivers, not all of them, but a lot of wide receivers do have a little bit of a diva mentality. And talking with former pro quarterbacks more often, not. They would, I would be like, hey, when you played with pick pick their, you know, their main guy, you know, tell me about that. And more often than not, the answer is like, I always knew that a quick bubble screen, you know, a quick slant, just something to get the ball to them quickly early in the game just to make sure they were engaged. You know, just like I had to make sure, like on the first series they got a target, you know, first two series they got a target or two.

[Jay Croucher]

So they just got to feed the big fella on the post type of thing. But yeah, I think with this. But it's so funny. They won the Super bowl six games ago, crisis already.

[Connor Rogers]

They're still in first place.

[Jay Croucher]

I mean, 4 and 1.

[Connor Rogers]

They're 4 and 1.

[Jay Croucher]

But here's the. So here's the good thing, is that.

[Connor Rogers]

The schedule, I'll say last second game to a playoff team last year.

[Jay Croucher]

So I think this game against the Giants, whose secondary is not particularly good, this will be a tell. Vikings is tough. Giants again, go into the bye, figure out all the stuff emotionally, whatever's going on with the team. And then Packers, Lions, tough matchups. But then Cowboys, Bears, Chargers, Raiders, commanders, Bills, Commander like, it's in terms of opposing defenses, not that imposing down the stretch. If A.J. brown is still like, A.J. is 28, like he shouldn't be. Like, some receivers do fall off at 28. I think Alan Robinson fell off around this time. But A.J. brown was an elite wide receiver last year. He is a guy who, if they threw the ball more, he could have been like a 17, 18 yard receiver each year. He's that good and just hasn't been anything close to that this year.

[Connor Rogers]

He certainly hasn't. And. But I agree with you, the schedule gets a lot better. I don't know that helps or hurts though, because it's not like they're playing a bunch of elite run defenses down the stretch. But bad passing, I mean, it's just like bad. And when they've gotten up, they just run. They don't want to throw the ball.

[Jay Croucher]

The funny thing is though, they can't.

[Connor Rogers]

Run the ball anymore. No, they can't. I will say against the Giants, who have a better interior line, defensive line than they do in the back end, they've given up the third most fantasy points to opposing wide receivers. And it's weird over the past four games, for all the lack of production, he's got a 31% target share over the last four games. And some of that's inflated by various games here. But last week, last year against the Giants, who basically scored 20 fantasy points. I am just to finish the bit. I am keeping it open on A.J. brown, reluctantly. I'm at wide receiver 21 this week. It's one of those things though, guys. I feel like if you can't do it against the Giants, I don't know when you feel Trustworthy about starting. AJ Brown, 21 is the lowest I've had him all year. And you know, it's a. Yeah, it's tough. Ryan Scott says AJ Just needs a night in Buffalo with Jalen. I agree, Ryan. That's true. I mean, Jay Croucher and I. Jay.

[Matthew Berry]

Croucher and I show was spiraling before.

[Connor Rogers]

That a little bit.

[Matthew Berry]

We just he behind the scenes.

[Connor Rogers]

He was checked out. I was doing more, you know, monologue stuff and everything like that. And they were just like, oh, it's all going to Barry. And they're not really passing the ball to Jay and Werts. A.J.

[Matthew Berry]

Brown.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, we. We spent one night in Buffalo when we got that fixed.

[Jay Croucher]

It's healing. It is healing.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, Buffalo was healing. We'll always have that night. I believe when won our first Emmy after that.

[Matthew Berry]

Imagine us having an Emmy. Yeah, it Couldn't be me.

[Connor Rogers]

Definitely not you. I think we submitted one of the shows with Lawrence. There you go.

[Matthew Berry]

Just to, you know, have a chance.

[Connor Rogers]

Yes, smart. Exactly. We didn't win an Emmy. We did win a FSGA award. That's true.

[Matthew Berry]

Which none of us were there to accept.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, Lawrence did accept it very proudly.

[Matthew Berry]

Our Next wide receiver, D.J. moore against the Commanders, which is a good matchup for DJ Moore. The problem, Matthew, is he's got one game with 10 plus points this season. DJ Moore has not been a factor in this offense. It's been the Roma Dunes. They show.

[Connor Rogers]

That's what I was just about to say. DJ Moore's problem is that he's not Roma Dunes. That's been the biggest problem as well. He's targeted on just 15% of his route so far this season. Right. Here's his weekly finishes. Let me just give you his weekly finishes this season. Wide receiver 46. Wide receiver 49. Wide receiver 29. That was his big week then. Wide receiver 47. Three out of the four weeks that he has played, he has been outside the top 45 wide receivers. He's got one week this season as a top 30 play. I get the matchup against my commanders and I just, I remember the Ron Rivera era and DJ Moore torched us for three, three touchdowns on a Thursday night, I believe. But I'm closing it out on DJ Moore. He's my wide receiver 37 this week. Which by the way, Jay, if he finished his wide receiver 37 again, would be his second best finish in a week this entire season.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, it's fine. It's like, yeah, it's a great matchup. It's kind of like how the Bengals are a great matchup for Dontavian Wicks. Like, great.

[Matthew Berry]

Another 28 year old wide receiver that. It's just inexplicable what's happened this year.

[Connor Rogers]

DJ Moore for AJ Brown, who says.

[Jay Croucher]

No, I think you still want AJ Brown. Yeah. Because the thing is, if it's not physical, it could flip at any moment. They just have a talk and all of a sudden he's back to being One night.

[Connor Rogers]

Brian Scott says one night in Buffalo, apparently yesterday. What about one night in New York? Guys, they get there early and you.

[Jay Croucher]

Know, apparently heard Saj Brown and Saquon had a meeting the other day. So maybe it's all sort of it. Maybe AJ Brown just be back.

[Connor Rogers]

Do you think, do you think in that meeting do you think Jalen Hurts said anything or do you just sit there in his tangle hat and Just.

[Jay Croucher]

Looked such a strange thing. I have the same one. The Super bowl, they're that good. Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

The vibes are this off.

[Connor Rogers]

He just sat there looking good because he's a good looking guy. Even I'll admit, like, he's. He's a good looking dude.

[Matthew Berry]

He leans into the character, though. Yeah, tremendously.

[Jay Croucher]

Thousands of the crazy things with Adriel. I. I don't think Jalen Hurts is playing badly this year at all. I think he's playing fine.

[Connor Rogers]

He's playing Jalen Hurts.

[Matthew Berry]

The second half against the Broncos showed a lot of warts, like against zone coverage. Took six sacks.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

Badly.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah. He's.

[Matthew Berry]

I know. A bad quarter. Looks like Jalen Hurts is just not what you expect of him.

[Connor Rogers]

I think it's on a different team. He is likely a middle of the pack quarterback. Would be my argument. Like if he was on a dysfunctional team with not a great offensive line.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah. As I'd say, like you put C.J. stroud on the Eagles and all of a sudden he's like an MVP candidate straight away.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

Jacoby Myers, he's got the Titans this week. Listen to this, jay. Wide receiver, 56 over the past three weeks.

[Jay Croucher]

Oh, great.

[Matthew Berry]

Jacoby Myers went from trade requests because I'm not getting paid to. Just not involved at all.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

Team he's stuck with.

[Connor Rogers]

So look at this photo. He looks bored already.

[Matthew Berry]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Like, he's just like. He's like, am I really here?

[Matthew Berry]

This is someone who should get traded. Help a team that needs a playoff team that needs a wide receiver.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Jay Croucher]

Let's trade him to the packets, Give him another wide receiver.

[Matthew Berry]

Oh, yeah, that'd be great.

[Jay Croucher]

I think.

[Connor Rogers]

Trader of the Bengals. See if he can play quarterback.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah. So with Jacobi Myers. So I watched Jacoby Myers very closely on the weekend. As I'm a Colts fan. I watched every single Colts play and I don't know how much of it's Jacoby Myers and the fact that his quarterback has just fallen off a cliff.

[Connor Rogers]

Your man Gino, you love Gino.

[Jay Croucher]

He's not my man. I don't know where this Gino is. My guy came from. He's just attaching my name to him.

[Matthew Berry]

You love Gino.

[Connor Rogers]

Thank you, Connor.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, Gino was fine. Gino was great. Two years ago. Last year he was fine as well. This is bad.

[Matthew Berry]

I like Gino. He's been bad this year.

[Jay Croucher]

He's been very, very bad. And I don't know what's going on with the offensive scheme. They can't block at all for Ashton Genti. And then what's going on with the pass catches? No, Brock Bow was there. It seems to have just sunk everything even further.

[Matthew Berry]

And they have no secondary.

[Connor Rogers]

So they're shockers. Perfectly.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah. They're. Look, they're four and a half point favorites against an NFL team this week, so maybe they can get right against the Titans. But I don't think you can start Jacoby Myers with any confidence.

[Matthew Berry]

How old would you say Jacoby Myers is?

[Connor Rogers]

The way that question's answered. 26.

[Matthew Berry]

He's 28.

[Connor Rogers]

28. All these eight are all, by the.

[Matthew Berry]

Way, very good Bengals quarterback joke. He was recruited as a quarterback. Kobe Myers at NC State.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, there you go.

[Matthew Berry]

Very good. So I'm saying there's a chance.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, you never know. Let's do some wildcat with him. Either way, I'm keeping, I get all of that. I'm still keeping it open. I've seen. Well, it's, it's the tight. So he's my wide receiver. 26 this week. Tennessee allows the fourth highest catch rate to wide receivers. They're allowing almost 14 fantasy points a game to a wide receiver in four or five games this year. So if you're telling me a wide receiver against the Titans is getting 14 fantasy points, who on the Raiders do you think it is? Like, sure, I mean maybe Trey Tucker gets deep for one, but I feel like Myers has the better chance. And so Myers has seen at least six targets in every game this year but one. And wide receivers that have seen at least six targets against the Titans this year are averaging 18 fantasy points per game. I get. It's been bad. I'm still keeping it open on Jacoby Myers as a mid tier wide receiver. 3.

[Matthew Berry]

All right guys, we got one more.

[Connor Rogers]

Here on the matchup and the fact that they have to do they have to figure something out.

[Matthew Berry]

David and Joku not really living up to expectations right now. Tight end 15 in points per game on the season. Matthew. But it feels like with Dylan Gabriel maybe things are pointing upwards.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, I mean Dylan Gabriel seemed to look for him early and often. You know, had a 28% target share in his first start. Got two end zone targets from Dylan Gabriel by the way. And I think the most important thing is, is that last week in Dylan Gabriel's first start, Harold Fannin, the other tight end had merely a 50% route participation. That was a season low for Fannin. So it feels like at least with what they want to do with Gabriel, they prefer Njoku, they prefer his, they prefer his blocking. It he had a utilization score of 95 last week and you like the matchup with the Steelers? Pittsburgh allows the fifth most fantasy points to opposing tight ends. I'm keeping it open. I'm as a tight end eight. I do think that he he's the number one target for Dylan Gabriel until further notice.

[Matthew Berry]

To recap, keep it open or close it out. Justin Herbert at quarterback five. Because of the matchup, he's an open Alvin Camara is open at RB23 as well against the Patriots on the other side of that game. Ramondre Stevenson at that is a close at RB 29. Two touchdown dependent. Same with Zach Charbonnet who's RB 32 against Jacksonville. A.J. brown, you're keeping that one open still.

[Connor Rogers]

A.J.

[Matthew Berry]

Brown. It's a short week against the giants secondary. Wide receiver 21 Jacoby Myers on the fringe, but he stays open at wide receiver 26. D.J. moore against the Commanders. You love the matchup, but you just can't have any faith in DJ Moore's role or lack thereof in this offense. Wide receiver 37 David Njoku is a top 10 play against the Steelers for Dylan Gabriel. Tight N8 we're taking our first break. When we're back, the segment that is sweeping America. Blind Date returns right after this.

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[Jay Croucher]

This.

[Matthew Berry]

Saturday night on NBC. And Peacock, number 15 Michigan travels at USC 7:00pm Eastern Time. Also, we'll be doing pre game at 3:00pm North Carolina State at number 16, Notre Dame. So a great slate of games on on Peacock and NBC.

[Connor Rogers]

And he'll be part of the pregame show, right?

[Matthew Berry]

Yes, I certainly will.

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[Connor Rogers]

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[Matthew Berry]

The crown will be mine on Saturday night.

[Jay Croucher]

Will you be wearing green, Irish?

[Matthew Berry]

I actually am slated to wear green, but not for the Irish, just in general.

[Jay Croucher]

Okay, interesting.

[Connor Rogers]

Is green a good color for you? Does Kristen like you?

[Matthew Berry]

I guess we're gonna we're find out.

[Jay Croucher]

We'll see how this goes. We'll check in Monday.

[Matthew Berry]

Yes.

[Connor Rogers]

Segment one so it is time for blind date. So of course, as everyone knows, people go to bars on blind dates to see if they can find love. That's what happened with Jay and I led to that magical night in Buffalo. So we're continuing the conversation here. We're doing a segment so nice we're doing it thrice. Let's throw up our first blind date here. Who is this running back who's got who's third in the NFL and design rush attempt share? They're using them somewhat when they get in close. Like, you know, he's middle 26th inside inside five Russia. His utilization score is 70, but he has been scoring a lot of fantasy points. He's 12th in fantasy points per game at 15.5. Any thoughts on this player who obviously is not involved in the passing game? He's just tied for 53rd in route participation.

[Matthew Berry]

That's a tricky one.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, I was going to say the Chubbler, Chuba Hubbard, but seems like too many fantasy points per game. Yeah, but I'll go with the Chubbler because I can't think of anyone else.

[Matthew Berry]

No, yeah, I don't have a good one for this. I'm really, really stuck.

[Connor Rogers]

This is a really clever one by our producers because the answer is your boy Quinshon Judkins Actually this entire we are all pro Quinshawn Judkins as a fantasy asset. He's a chubby leather daddy but of.

[Jay Croucher]

Course he's a different sort of chublo.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, Connor and I both talked about him a lot. What it is here is that you know they're not the underlying metrics are deceiving because they just don't use them in the passing game. But the fantasy points are there because he is so the utilization score is low just because they don't use in passing game. But it doesn't matter because it's a run heavy offense and they use them when they get in close. I think Quinton Judkins is actually a hold or buy, not a sell. Although the underlying metrics you could sort of design a a sell conversation around him.

[Matthew Berry]

That one was also really hard because he's had. He's been ramped up slowly.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

So like the numbers feel so much different than they ultimately will land at at the end of the season. That was tricky. That was a good one.

[Jay Croucher]

Really good. I think you're encouraged by Dylan Gabriel looking competent against a really tough defense. Brian Flores Vikings that he seemed like it's not going to be amazing.

[Matthew Berry]

Overwhelmed.

[Jay Croucher]

The Hail Mary was rough down the end. So funny. They call Hail Mary and then they like next play after it gets called back it's KFC goals. The timeout I was like yeah, we're not doing that again.

[Matthew Berry]

We saw one, we were good.

[Connor Rogers]

But the last thing also there is I think two weeks ago Joe Flacco like got two, you know, one yard rush attempts and obviously Judkins missed early in the season. So the inside, the 5 yard usage is skewed by that but obviously we know they will use that more often as well. Let's go to blind date number two. Here's a running back that isn't playing a ton of snaps. He's 29th in snap rate but top 20 in terms of inside of the five yard rush attempts. Obviously not involved in the passing game again. He's tied for 40th in route participation. He's you know, whatever a utilization score of 62 but his fantasy points per game much higher than his underlying numbers. He's averaging 14.5 fantasy points per game which is 17th best in the NFL.

[Jay Croucher]

Okay, so timeshare gets the goal line carries and must score a lot of touchdowns because that's what's boosting his fantasy points per game.

[Matthew Berry]

David Montgomery I It's so committee back. I got two guesses for this. J.K. dobbins or Jordan Mason.

[Connor Rogers]

It is J.K. dobbins. Connor Rogers. You're exactly right. Well done there with J.K. dobbins who has been scoring a ton of touchdowns as well. I think he's potentially a sell high again. He's not involved in the passing game. If you think RJ Harvey continues to ramp up his.

[Matthew Berry]

They want him to be.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Matthew Berry]

Yes, that's. They're trying. They've missed a couple but they, they want to get Harvey going. I completely agree.

[Connor Rogers]

He's still going to be an offense that scores a decent amount and they're still going to use him as the hammer at the goal line. But you've got Bo Nix there more RJ Harvey. He is somebody that because of the lack of passing game usage, Jay needs to score to pay off in fantasy.

[Jay Croucher]

Yep, he does. And to be fair to JK Doms, he does look better than he did last. He looks more explosive. Another year removed from the injuries. But yeah, RJ Harvey is coming. They draft him for a reason.

[Connor Rogers]

Okay, let's go to blind date number three, another running back once again not involved in the passing game. You see just he's 52nd in route participation. He's top 20 and inside the five yard rush attempt. Not playing a ton of snaps, just 41% of the snaps which is barely inside the top 40 utilization score of 52. So. But he's again another top 20 running back at 14 fantasy points per game.

[Jay Croucher]

Is this one David Montgomery.

[Matthew Berry]

I was going to say I was.

[Jay Croucher]

Going to guess David Montgomery for every play.

[Matthew Berry]

That's correct.

[Connor Rogers]

It's interesting because I knew Dave Montgomery was coming but you're exactly right. It's that it's the same kind of thing where because Gibbs is so involved because he's not involved in the passing game Dave Montgomery but is a little bit touchdown dependent. Although I think he's more or less a hold because I think we think this offense is so good and they are going to score a lot of touchdowns and they do trust him around the goal line and just it's one of those things that I feel like Montgomery is exactly as advertised. He's a flex play with a chance to score a touchdown every single week.

[Jay Croucher]

I think sneaky thing too with the Lions is that they're in the same spot with their corners as they were last year. Like D.J. reed's down, Terry and Arnold's down. Like they got non Santa's garbage time against Jake Browning and the Bengals like they were getting lit up. Like that was an insane second chase touchdown Where Mick Robinson just falls over basically. Like I think they're going to be in a ton of shootouts and they're going to need to, you know, keep the foot on the gas in these games.

[Matthew Berry]

Right? And you know, unlike Ramondre Stevenson and Zach Charbonnet, we've seen David Montgomery be viable by doing this, right? Two years ago he ran for 13 touchdowns. Last year he ran for 12. This year he's on pace for somewhere between 12 to 14 touchdowns.

[Jay Croucher]

It's like Rich man's Tyler Algier.

[Connor Rogers]

He is exactly as advertised, more of a floor than a ceiling player. But again, for the flex, you could do much worse. Let's move to the wide receiver position, guys. And here's somebody that is getting just a massive target share, right? He's top 10 in the NFL, but you know, barely top 30 in terms of air yard share. They're not looking for him on third and fourth down. 75 utilization score, which is inside the top 20. But none of those numbers, you know, correspond with his fantasy points per game, 13.7, which is tied for 22nd. So he's, it feels like based on the underlying Data, again, top 10 in target share, top 17 in utilization score. This is somebody who's getting a lot of targets. It hasn't translated into production just yet. Any ideas on who this wide receiver is?

[Matthew Berry]

Not getting any looks on third and fourth down.

[Jay Croucher]

No, it's not Cortland Sutton.

[Connor Rogers]

It's a good guess, but it is not Cortland Sutton. You have a guess?

[Guest Analyst]

No.

[Matthew Berry]

This is hard.

[Connor Rogers]

This is Detective Drake London.

[Guest Analyst]

Wow.

[Connor Rogers]

Right here.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Well, look, Penix has not been consistent this year and he's had a couple of quiet games. He had the big one in week four before the bye, but he's been fairly quiet to start out the season as the entire Falcons passing offense has been. I feel like though, when you see that underlying usage, it's like I think Drake London is either a buy low or patience hold if you have him.

[Jay Croucher]

Yep, Michael Panick's coming off his best performance of the season as well. Branding up hopefully. Yeah, there's upside there. Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Off the buy, hopefully they, they fix some stuff in the offense as well. So last one here is another wide receiver that has, you know, a huge target share in terms of air yard share. He's tied for six third and fourth down, target share, tied for fourth. He's got a 75 utilization score. So it's very similar to Drake London. So somebody's out there quite a bit. He's just, he's not earning targets at a high rate. In terms of his targets per route run is outside the top 30. But you know. And it hasn't translated in production. So somebody whose production has not nearly matched his underlying numbers.

[Matthew Berry]

Is this Keon Coleman?

[Connor Rogers]

That's a good guess. It's not Keon Coleman.

[Jay Croucher]

I think I know who this is. So gets a ton of looks down the field. Gets targeted every third or fourth down. Seemingly no touchdowns. Tetero and McMillan.

[Connor Rogers]

Jay Croucher is really good at this game. Let's hear it for the Crouchler. It is obviously the expected fantasy points are so much higher than his actual points per game.

[Matthew Berry]

That's what got me. I would not have guessed that. I thought he would have more per.

[Connor Rogers]

Game scored a touchdown yet.

[Matthew Berry]

Right.

[Connor Rogers]

And they've come close on a lot of plays as Bryce Young has struggled. He's been inconsistent so far this year. But we all believe in Ted Rola McMillan's talent here. The usage is there. It's not like he's got any target competition.

[Jay Croucher]

Like it's, you know, my, my hot take is that Tedro McMillan will outscore macro Booker rest of the way because I think that he's.

[Connor Rogers]

That is a hot take.

[Jay Croucher]

He's so unopposed for targets and they're going to be playing from behind a lot. And Mike Evans is coming back. Chris Godwin's going to ramp up. I think Book is still safe. Like he's still going to be excellent. He's still starting every week. But I think TMAC is going to explode for 150 yards in a touchdown at some point.

[Matthew Berry]

I just don't trust Bryce. I'll take Baker.

[Jay Croucher]

Yeah, that's a surprise.

[Connor Rogers]

That, that is a challenge. But at some point they just. If Bryce doesn't get better, at some point they just may turn to Andy Dalton. Bring back the red Rifle.

[Matthew Berry]

But.

[Connor Rogers]

But to your point about like the Tea McMillan explosion game that that's coming and it could happen this weekend against the Cowboys. Yeah, right.

[Matthew Berry]

This is the week.

[Connor Rogers]

So this is the week. So I do think Tedro McMillan is definitely screaming by low if a manager in your. A manager in your league is panicking.

[Matthew Berry]

We're going to take one more break, one more back. We got our back to the futures bets, our favorite awards and futures, of course, right after this.

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[Jay Croucher]

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[Matthew Berry]

All right, Jay, what do you got for us this week?

[Jay Croucher]

I'll take T.J. watt, 251 Defensive Player of the year. I have a little rule in life. TJ Watt is not allowed to be 25 to 1 to win defensive Player of the Year before the NBA season kicks off mid October. So. So tips off rather the sport of basketball.

[Connor Rogers]

Yes.

[Jay Croucher]

T.J. watt, 25 to 1.

[Matthew Berry]

What do you like?

[Connor Rogers]

I like Tyler Warren at 10 to 1 to win offensive Rookie of the Year. I think this Colts season is going to need to be rewarded somehow. Maybe Steichen wins coach of the year, but I think Tyler Warren is sort of the obvious guy to sort of. They're not going to have anyone win mvp. I don't think so. Tyler Warren is offensive Rookie of the Year is a way for the voters to say, hey, Colts, good job on this season.

[Jay Croucher]

Could be the best start in football statistically.

[Matthew Berry]

He's been excellent, right? Already over 300 yards. He's going to get more touchdowns along the way as well. Guys, I'm going with a deeper cut here. Give me Dak Prescott 30 to 1 to win the MVP. And I understand why the odds are this way. They haven't won enough games, right? Dak is playing as well as any quarterback in football right now. What he's doing their schedule, Panthers commanders, Broncos, Cardinals, Raiders. I think they can win four of the next five. If they do, his odds will go in half.

[Connor Rogers]

They're right in there. That music means it's closing time. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. For Connor and Jay discussing the sport, I'm Matthew Barry.

[Jay Croucher]

We'll see you, Mark.

[Guest Analyst]

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[Matthew Berry]

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