15 Most Wanted Fantasy Football Players of 2025! Daniels, Jeudy, Adams, Hubbard, & More! (06/05 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Fantasy Football Today: Episode Summary

Title: 15 Most Wanted Fantasy Football Players of 2025! Daniels, Jeudy, Adams, Hubbard, & More!
Release Date: June 5, 2025
Host/Authors: Adam Azer, Dave Richard, Jamey Eisenberg, Heath Cummings, and the CBS Sports Fantasy Football Crew

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Introduction

In this engaging episode of Fantasy Football Today, host Adam Azer, alongside analysts Dave Richard, Jamey Eisenberg, and Heath Cummings, delves deep into the 15 most sought-after players for the 2025 fantasy football season. The team covers essential topics ranging from player trades and draft strategies to assessing rookies and addressing listener questions. This comprehensive discussion is a must-listen for fantasy managers aiming to gain an edge in their leagues.

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Trade and League Movements

The episode kicks off with a discussion about significant trades within their Big Burger Dynasty League. Dave Richard shares his recent trade, highlighting his acquisition of DeAndre Swift in exchange for multiple future picks:

Dave Richard (01:46): "I traded 110 for the 18th pick, the sixth pick in round two and DeAndre Swift and the sixth pick in round three and a 2026 second."

Heath Cummings expresses skepticism about the trade’s value, questioning Swift’s potential and the opportunity cost of not acquiring a promising rookie.

Heath Cummings (02:14): "It almost feels like you turned a dollar into three quarters and two nickels. And so I don't feel like you necessarily got a great return on it."

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Player Rankings and Evaluations

Running Backs

DeAndre Swift:
Dave and Heath analyze Swift's potential in his new role, especially if J.K. Dobbins signs with the Broncos, potentially altering Swift's workload.

Dave Richard (33:45): "If they do sign Dobbins or Chubb, it's still probably what he's worth."

Heath adds a cautionary note about Swift’s volatility, likening him to past running backs who had periods of high performance followed by downturns.

Heath Cummings (35:11): "There's been... parts of previous years where DeAndre Swift catches fire... and then something happens."

Chuba Hubbard:
Both analysts express optimism about Hubbard's role with an improved offensive line and coaching, positioning him as a reliable RB2.

Dave Richard (54:24): "He has a better hands than anybody else on this team and he's already making some noise this summer."

Wide Receivers

Jerry Judy:
The team debates Judy’s value contingent on the Browns' quarterback situation. Adam Azer highlights the importance of Judy being the primary target.

Jerry Judy (17:44): "If you are drafting Judy, are you buying the fact that he's going to be the number one guy..."

Heath Cummings is cautiously optimistic, projecting Judy around 14-15 PPR points per game.

Heath Cummings (21:00): "He can still be around 14, 15 PPR points..."

Juwan Jennings:
Dave Richard places Jennings slightly later in drafts, anticipating him leading the 49ers' targets midway through the season.

Dave Richard (22:30): "I expect him to lead the 49ers ... for the first half of the season."

Matthew Golden:
Viewed as a strong rookie option, Golden is recommended for late-round picks with the potential to emerge as a key player.

Dave Richard (29:05): "It's got to be as a bench wide receiver."

Tight Ends

Tyler Warren:
Heath Cummings praises Warren’s physicality and potential target volume in Indianapolis, suggesting him as a late-round value pick.

Heath Cummings (46:37): "He’s somebody who I could see getting plenty of target volume..."

Tucker Kraft and Evan Ingram:
Both analysts view these tight ends as late-round steals with Warren being a reliable blue-chip player.

Heath Cummings (68:30): "I would take Najoku over Kraft over Warren in a heartbeat."

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Quarterbacks

Jaden Daniels:
Considered a top QB option, Daniels is praised for his consistent performance and potential upside.

Dave Richard (39:07): "He averaged eight and a half targets per game."

Jared Goff:
Heath views Goff as a value pick available late in drafts, recommending against waiting until round 12.

Heath Cummings (58:30): "He’s better than round 12. I'll take him."

High-Upside QBs:
Analysts discuss prioritizing high-upside quarterbacks like Justin Fields and Caleb Williams over steady performers like Goff.

Dave Richard (60:30): "I would definitely take Fields over him."

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Key News and Updates

J.K. Dobbins Potential Signing:
A significant topic is the potential signing of J.K. Dobbins to the Denver Broncos, which could impact players like RJ Harvey by introducing competition.

Heath Cummings (04:31): "It may be sharing and who knows how long this contract might be."

Browns' Quarterback Battle:
The competitive quarterback room in Cleveland is analyzed, focusing on Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, Dylan Gabriel, and Shador Sanders. Heath expresses a preference for Flacco due to his experience.

Heath Cummings (11:00): "The quarterback who I want to win the job is Flacco."

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Listener Questions and Recommendations

The hosts address several listener-submitted questions, providing personalized advice on draft strategies, player evaluations, and trade grading. Notable discussions include:

• Trade Grading: Evaluating trades like Keon Coleman for future picks.

  Heath Cummings (41:31): "That's good shopping."

• Stacking Strategy: Heath explains his cautious approach to stacking QBs with WRs or TEs, preferring not to double down on dependent players.

  Heath Cummings (41:15): "I don’t really target any stacks per se."

• Drafting in Late Rounds: Recommendations for targeting specific players like Matthew Golden and Tyler Warren in later rounds for maximum value.

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Concluding Insights

The episode wraps up with strategic insights on maximizing draft efficiency and managing player roles based on team dynamics and potential changes throughout the offseason. The hosts emphasize the importance of flexibility and staying updated with team news to make informed decisions.

Adam Azer (78:05): "We'll be back next week with four shows as well."

The team encourages listeners to participate in upcoming Dynasty drafts and engage with their interactive segments for real-time advice and updates.

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Notable Quotes

• Dave Richard (01:46): "I traded 110 for the 18th pick, the sixth pick in round two and DeAndre Swift..."
• Heath Cummings (02:14): "It almost feels like you turned a dollar into three quarters and two nickels."
• Heath Cummings (11:00): "The quarterback who I want to win the job is Flacco."
• Heath Cummings (21:00): "He can still be around 14, 15 PPR points..."
• Heath Cummings (58:30): "He’s better than round 12. I'll take him."

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Key Takeaways

• Strategic Trades: Evaluate the long-term benefits and opportunity costs before making significant trades.
• Player Valuation: Understand each player's role within their team to accurately project fantasy performance.
• Draft Flexibility: Be prepared to adjust strategies based on offseason movements and player news.
• Late-Round Gems: Target high-upside players in later rounds to maximize draft value without overcommitting early picks.

This episode provides a wealth of information and strategic advice, ensuring fantasy football enthusiasts are well-equipped to dominate their leagues in the upcoming season.

Transcript

[Jamie Eisenberg]

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[Heath Cummings]

What a play. Can you believe this?

[Dave Richard]

No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league.

[Adam Azer]

Off to the races and he stays on his feet.

[Heath Cummings]

This is gonna go the distance.

[Dave Richard]

Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath.

[Adam Azer]

Well, we got a fun show for you today. No Adam Azer, but we got you covered with the players that we're drafting the most of the players that are the most wanted for myself, Jamie Eisenberg, Dave Rich and Heath Cummings. So gonna get into all that stuff in a minute, guys. How we doing? Heath, we had some movement in our big burger dynasty league. You made a big trade. You want to let everybody know the, the moves that you're making as you are shaking up the league in the first round already.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I made a trade and now I'm getting ready to make a pick on air. So it's, it's all working out well. I traded 110 for the 18th pick, the sixth pick in round two and DeAndre Swift and the sixth pick in round three and a 2026 second. So adding a little, I've got three 2026 seconds to 2026 first now and hopefully Swift increases his value.

[Adam Azer]

And Dave, you did not like that trade, Correct?

[Heath Cummings]

I'm worried about Swift coming through as anything more than like 12 PPR points per game. And you could make the argument that the type of player that you could have gotten at 10 could be even lower than that, especially at a different position. I don't know what your running back situation is. Like maybe you're desperate for 12 PPR points per game. I do not know. But I, I It almost feels like you turned a dollar into three quarters and two nickels. And so I don't feel like you necessarily got like, great return on it, especially since you're just, you're missing out on getting a rookie who could end up being helpful to your team down the line in some other form of fashion. Yeah, you can get another rookie like that at 18 or wherever you, you fell back to. And you got Swift in the process. I, I, maybe I'm just focusing too much on Swift and thinking that this is probably a make or break year for him and if he can't get anything done this year, then he's never gonna and he's not going to be an asset in fantasy. So I would have taken the, the, the, the fresh, hot, young rookie and you would have taken.

[Dave Richard]

Tyler Warren is who you would have taken. He's going to fall in this draft because Dave's not in it. And Dave is always the guy that takes. That's a great transition to the show. Dave always takes Tyler Warren in our rookie drafts.

[Heath Cummings]

One of my most wanted players.

[Adam Azer]

And you take DeAndre Swift, one of your most wanted players. We're going to get to that in a minute. But just wanted to bring up the movement that is going on in the big burger dynasty league. And I apparently screwed Heath over by taking quick on junkins. You did John Dudkins one pick before Heath was on the clock. You actually weighed the trade. I made the pick after you made the trade, so I guess you were anticipating me taking Jenkins. All right, so we're gonna get into some of the players that we'll talk about here, which includes DeAndre Swift and Tyler Warren. Jaden Daniels, Bo Nix, T. Higgins, Cortland Sutton. Some guys we've been talking about a lot recently, but we'll add a few more names to that as well. But I want to get into the news and notes first because there is one very potential major news item that could be happening as early as today, and that involves J.K. dobbins, who is getting wind and dined by the Denver Broncos right now. And so we're all very excited about RJ Harvey. At least we were being the potential feature guy for the Broncos. That might change now if Dobbins goes there. So, Dave, if Dobbins does sign with the Broncos, what does that mean for their backfill?

[Heath Cummings]

It means that it'll be a little messier. It tells me that the coaching staff doesn't really love what they've got beyond the potential of Harvey because they're adding A veteran to it who is versatile. He can catch the ball backfield, clearly a good runner. He just has to stay healthy and I'm sure the Broncos are thinking, well we're not going to need to put all of the work on J.K. dobbin's shoulders. He can be a 1B type of a running back and that kind of takes away the upside of RJ Harvey to be an every down workhorse type of running back, which of course he'd have to earn over the course of the season. But the pathway to that happening is just gets much narrower with J.K. dobbins there. Now RJ Harvey Truthers will love this because it's going to drop his ADP for sure. I think we were talking about Harvey's like a round five pick and now maybe he goes closer to the fence of round six and round seven if Dobbins is there and Dobbins will move up into like the round nine around 10 range. So it really just depends on if you love the talent of Harvey and you're hoping that he ends up being the guy there. You're getting them at a discount already. That's a dip. You want to buy the dip.

[Adam Azer]

So Heath, how would you rank in redraft the rookie running backs post Ashton Genti if there is a Dobbin signing in Denver? So what would your order be past Genti for the rookie running backs?

[Dave Richard]

So it does get a little bit messy if we're talking about non half or full PPRs.

[Adam Azer]

Full and half full.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I'll go full PPR. I would have. So obviously it's Genti then for me it would be Henderson then Judkins, Hampton.

[Adam Azer]

Harvey, Johnson, Henderson, Judkins, Hampton, Johnson, Harvey. Right, sorry.

[Dave Richard]

Harvey and Harvey then Johnson, Harvey then Johnson.

[Adam Azer]

All right Dave, what would the order be for you?

[Heath Cummings]

Hampton would be after Genty. So let's just remove Genti from the equation. Like I think you were trying to do Hampton for me, then Henderson, then Judkins and then I probably go with Caleb Johnson over RJ Harvey. I hate to do it because I think the talent with Harvey is better, but I think the situation is better for Caleb Johnson if Dobbins is healthy, ready to go for training camp, etc. Etc.

[Adam Azer]

In Denver it would be for me it would be Henderson, Hampton, Judkins, Johnson, Harvey and then Heath. From a dynasty perspective if Dobbins comes in and is healthy, this makes me nervous for Harvey because at 24 is he losing a big opportunity in what could have been and still might be but what could have been like a featured opportunity for Sean Payton and now he may be sharing and who knows how long this contract might be if it does happen where it could be two years and he's there for maybe multiple seasons.

[Dave Richard]

So I think I had a little lower opinion of Harvey's talent than Dave did. So I was all, I hadn't drafted R.J. harvey in a rookie mock yet or in a rookie draft yet, so I probably won't downgrade him too much. But we've seen him in our drafts that he went ahead of both Judkins and Johnson in the most recent in the draft that we're in right now, the big burger dynasty league, I had him behind both of those guys. So I, I think he's definitely still a first round pick, but he probably doesn't get pushed up into that top six range in drafts like he has been lately, which is why I haven't drafted him.

[Adam Azer]

I cannot, I cannot confirm or deny that I may have taunted Adam Mazer last night after he took Harvey in the big Burger dynasty league and said, did you, did you see the Dobbins news?

[Heath Cummings]

Oh, and he didn't.

[Adam Azer]

He had already made, I mean the, the news was after he had made a selection.

[Heath Cummings]

I think, I think the age factor is definitely something that's something I didn't think about, but that's a really good call. Let me ask you this question, guys. Is there a rookie running back outside of Genti that you would take with a top 5050 pick right now in redraft in PPR?

[Adam Azer]

I would take Henderson in top 50.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah. I've actually got Henderson, Judkins and Hampton like right at that four or five turn. So I, I, all three of them are very close to top 50. Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

And I would have taken Harvey in the top 50 if, I will take him in the top 50 if this move does not happen. Okay, so he was my second favorite running back prior to this potential news. So maybe Dobbins does not get the contract offer that he wants and you know, we'll still see what happens. I still think Harvey can have a very good role and a good season, but this just lowers the, the ceiling because of a very, very talented running back coming in for competition.

[Dave Richard]

If anything, I think it clarifies things a little bit for me because I'm still a little bit uncertain about which of the myriad of roles in a Sean Payton running back room RJ Harvey is going to fill. And if Dobbins was there now, you know, Dobbins is probably taking a good chunk of the early downs work and Harvey's probably more of the receiving back so it's at least easier to project in that situation.

[Adam Azer]

Right. And again, Dobbins has a very lengthy injury track record as we know and even got hurt last year and missed four games. So just keep that in mind. As great as he was, he was missing for four games and they could still get 50 plus catches out of Harvey as we saw for Devonte Williams last year, and that could still give him a very excellent fantasy floor if he's going to be catching all those passes. Now take into account what we said about Audrey estimate yesterday and throw that out the window because I think estimates role would be completely crushed if if Dobbins is there and Jalil McLaughlin as well. So something to monitor and obviously we'll talk about it if it does come to fruition that Dobbins signs with the Broncos. Other news that I wanted to bring up, and this involves the Browns quarterback room, so we'll go from that right into Heath's list about Jerry Judy. But this is Tommy Reese, their offense coordinator and again this is going to be one of the bigger training camp battles that we can take a look at in Cleveland with their quarterbacks, the four guys that are battling for the starting job, which is Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders. And Sanders by all accounts is having a good OTA so far, so that's a positive sign as well. But here's what reset quote. You can see them all winning the job in terms of the competition. We're so early in the process, we're so early in evaluating it, but we have a good group of guys that are continuing to push one another. By the time September rolls around, we'll be ready to go. So Heath, you're going to talk about Judy, but Dave, I want to get your take on this because. Because obviously it impacts a lot of players. Judkins, the running back situation, the running back room there in Cleveland, but clearly the pass catchers of Judy, David Najoku, Cedric Tillman if you're buying him. So which quarterback do you want to see win the job and how much do you value or put stock into maybe the rookies playing or even Kenny Pickett playing at some point when telling people where to draft Judy and Najoku and Tillman.

[Heath Cummings]

The quarterback who I want to win the job is Flacco, the quarterback who I think will win the job. I don't know if that's going to be Flacco. I. I Think that the I, there's a couple of interesting signs. Number one, just the fact that they traded for Pickett, they gave up something for Picket, that tells me that coaching staff sees something in him. And the fact that they drafted Dylan Gabriel before they drafted Shador Sanders, that tells me that the scouts and the coaching staff, they see something in him too. It just, it makes me very, very worried about how downfield targets would go and that's something that would impact Judy and Tillman a little bit more than Najoku. Najoku's been like Mr. Check down, short area target, red zone, guy after catch, playmaker. Like, I'm not really worried about this for Najoku. I really like Najoku a lot this year. In fantasy, I think he's being underdrafted. But I, I do worry a little bit about those rookies getting in there and what that could do to Judy's catchable target rate. How many is he gonna have throws going over his head and you know, are the rookies gonna struggle in the pocket and get sacked or turn the ball over? There's a hundred ways that it could go down. So I, it does worry me a little bit about Judy and frankly with Pickett, that worries me a little bit too. Flacco's the veteran. Flacco knows how to get the ball out when the pressure's on. Flaco's the guy who's been throwing YOLO balls for like three seasons now. Absolutely. That's the quarterback I want to have under center if I'm drafting Jerry.

[Adam Azer]

Judy Heath. We're going to talk about Judy in, in a couple of minutes, but just in terms of the quarterbacks, specifically from a dynasty perspective with the rookies, do you have a similar opinion that maybe Gabriel could be the guy ahead of Sanders based on how he was drafted and in a super flex draft, like how are you telling people to take a look at those two guys, Sanders and Gabriel in particular.

[Dave Richard]

So I, I am kind of sticking my head in the sand about the draft capital because I don't think Dylan Gabriel is actually a potential NFL starting quarterback. I think there are other that Sanders fell in the draft and he might not be a potential NFL starting quarterback either, but I still have a little bit more hope for him. So even in a super flex league, I'm not really considering either one of these guys until maybe the 2, 3 turn. If you're really desperate at quarterback, I'd rather in round three, I'm probably, I, I have multiple round three picks in the Bake Burger Dynasty league and I have Drake May, Justin Fields and Russell Wilson as my quarterback, so I could use some security there. I, I might use one of those round three picks on Sanders. There's no way I'm taking Dylan Gabriel before round four.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, I would take Sanders over Gabriel myself, I think just again, I hope talent wins out there as opposed to, you know, maybe them taking a chance on Gabriel and then still Sanders being on the board and like, okay, we'll, we'll pull the trigger here. Despite some of the potential meetings going bad and however the draft process unfolded for him. But clearly the Browns did have a good evaluation on Gabriel, so taking him ahead of Sanders even at that point in the draft kind of tells you something. A couple other news items before we move on here and get into the topic of the day. Rashad Bateman signed a three year, 36.75 million dollar extension with 20 million dollars guaranteed. Heath, your interest level in Rashad Bateman is what?

[Dave Richard]

Very, very low, but higher in best ball leagues.

[Adam Azer]

Yep.

[Dave Richard]

I think the problem with Rashad Bateman is he's probably going to score seven or eight touchdowns this year and you have no idea when they're going to happen. And he's rarely going to have enough catches or yards to matter. So he's really a best ball only.

[Adam Azer]

Type player for me and Dave. Derek Carr commenting for the first time, I believe, about his retirement, saying it was quote, the right thing for him to do to retire and even leaving the money on the table. Obviously we'll see if Derek Carr ever decides to return to the NFL. It would be a surprise probably at his age, if he does come back, but wouldn't be unfounded. But in the case of the Saints quarterback situation, similar to the Browns quarterback situation, is there a guy that you would like to see win the starting job out of? Chuck Spencer Rattler. Those are probably the two most prominent options to be the starting quarterback this year.

[Heath Cummings]

I want to see Kenny Pickett get traded there. Can we talk about the bronze quarterbacks again? Somehow that's a more fun topic than this. Look, I, I think it's going to be gross. I don't know how you can feel good about that passing game outside of check downs to Camara and short throws to Olava, crossers and you know, post stuff like that, slants. I, I really, I, I'm very nervous about what this means for this team. I don't think their defense is particularly great either at this point. This, this could be one of the worst teams in the NFL and the type of team that you want to target. They take on Arizona in Week one. You might want to draft the Cardinals dst.

[Adam Azer]

Not a bad call and Rattler really struggled last year when he was the starter for the Saints and maybe Tyler Suck could be better as the starter. I'm sure he'll see a lot of playing time in 2025. All right, we're gonna take a break. When we come back, a couple things to note. We're gonna get into the list for Heath of his most targeted players in drafts so far. Jaden Daniels, DeAndre Swift, Jerry Judy, Juwan Jennings and Matthew Golden. We're going to answer some of your questions from the chat. So start posting your questions for 2025 dynasty. Anything you want to answer, have us answer for you. Start posting in the chat. Thomas will put them on the screen at the end of the show, but get those questions up now. But we're going to take a quick break. When we come back, it's Heath's most targeted players for 2025.

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[Adam Azer]

All right, so we got Heath's most targeted players so far in the drafts that we've done, and there's been, you know, several industry mocks that we've all taken part in. Obviously a lot of our own mock drafts. Dave's doing a lot of fan mock drafts as well. So these could be from several drafts. These could be from one draft. I'm not exactly sure what list the guys have given, but here's these five players that were sent in to Thomas, Jaden Daniels, DeAndre Swift, Jerry Judy, Juwan Jennings and Matthew Golden. So let's just keep going with the Browns quarterback theme here. Jerry, Judy, Heath. I know, we've, we've discussed this quite a bit, but which quarterback do you want to see for how long be the starting quarter starter there for Cleveland?

[Dave Richard]

I want Joe Flacco to start 17 games, please. Can I please have 17 games of Joe Flacco? I think that Jerry Judy could be a borderline top 12 wide receiver in that situation. It's not particularly likely. So I think you have to start doing the math of how many games does Judy does Flacco have to play to justify this, this ranking of Judy? I, I and that's really hard math to do. The nice thing is most of the times, unless one of you guys take him, why you see Jerry Judy fall to that mid wide receiver 3 range and so I, I think there's a couple of outs to where that could still work even if Flacco doesn't start the whole season. One Chador Sanders could just actually be good at football and that's probably my second biggest hope at the, at the quarterback position for the Browns. If it's Pickett, you're probably taking a small loss on drafting Judy as a mid wide receiver 3 and if it's Gabriel, I'm going to be terrified. But so that's, that's kind of the way that I'm viewing it. But I do think the range of upside is probably a little higher than what type of downside concerns do you have if you're drafting a guy as a mid wide receiver 3 Dave, when.

[Adam Azer]

We look at Jerry Judy season last year, if you're watching on YouTube, you could see his game log on CBS worst.com the beginning part of the season was Deshaun Watson and I think a lot of people think okay, as soon as Watson left with the Achilles injury and Jameis Winston took over, it was fantastic for Judy, but really coincided with not only that, it was also Amari Cooper getting traded to Buffalo. How much of it was the quarterback, how much of it was the opportunity? And as Adam Mazer has said a few times on our shows here that Judy had shown flashes in Denver, it just was never consistent. And so are you just buying the fact, if you are buying Judy, are you buying the fact that okay, he's going to be the number one guy, he's going to get targeted, you know, to, to whatever extent the quarterback play could either be great in, in terms of Flacco to whatever Flacco, you know, brings out of, of Jerry Judy, or it could just be that this is just finally a good opportunity for him and he's taking advantage of it.

[Heath Cummings]

I think it's a lot about the opportunity. He averaged eight and a half targets per game. It was weighted after Deshaun Watson was removed from the field. And you know, the nice thing about Jameis is, is that he, he, he plays a lot of yolo ball too. And so he'll put the ball in dangerous places, he'll throw to targets further downfield. He's not scared about those types of plays and he'll let the chips fall where they may. And a lot of times Judy helped him out in a big way. So I'm, I'm hoping that they've got a quarterback that will sling it a little bit and not somebody who's going to be meek in the pocket and not consider throwing 10, 15, 20 yards downfield. Not that Judy runs a ton of those routes, but still, you want somebody that's going to be able to catch a ball. Let's call it 10 yards downfield and then keep running to add yards after the catch. Judy did a lot of that last year. His fantasy point production was amazing because of it. At 18.5, I don't think he'll be at 18.5 this year. I think that's beyond the ceiling, but I think he can still be around 14, 15 PPR points and we'll talk about that. About a lot of receivers this year. And he's getting drafted in in our adp. He's right before the end of round five. I think I'm okay with him going.

[Adam Azer]

At that point in full PPR top 30ish overall receiver. Heath, I know you have him a little bit higher than that. Earlier than that, depending on how we're phrasing this. Who are some receivers you would take? Jerry Judy over.

[Dave Richard]

Thankfully. I'm gonna have more information on the quarterback battle before I have to make like significant decisions. But, but right now I would take him over the bucks. I would take him over Devonte Smith, Debo Samuel, Travis Hunter, Juwan Jennings, Zay flowers, Marvin Harrison Jr. That range of wide receiver.

[Adam Azer]

So you're, you're banking on a big season for him with probably Joe Flacco or as you alluded to, maybe Sanders still being hopefully not a huge drop off.

[Dave Richard]

Right. And like I said, if I, if I project 17 Games of Flaco and Judy, I get to wide receiver 14. So I'd take him over a lot of guys. But even if Flacco wins The job week one, we're not guaranteed 17 games of that.

[Adam Azer]

Let's talk about Joanne Jennings. I know we've had A lot of conversations about the 49ers overall, their skill players and this receiving core. When are you comfortable drafting Juwan Jennings and what are your expectations for him? Factoring in maybe when Brandon Ayuk will return from his knee injury, that I expect to hold him out the beginning part of the season, but we just don't know. Ricky Pearsall's dealing with a hamstring injury right now. How do you sort of evaluate the 49ers receiving Core and then where are your projections? Slash, when are you pulling the trigger on drafting Joanne?

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, Jennings, I will draft about a round later than where Dave said Judy was going that 6, 7 turn. And I expect him to lead the 49ers and targets this year to lead them definitely the first half of the season. And then I. You can't make up for it in the second half. I think it's, it's a good opportunity and I've, I've done it several times. You can take Jennings and Pearsall both after round six sometimes and if you can do that, then you give yourself a little bit of security as maybe Adam's friendship strategy. But he was, he was so good before last year. Basically anytime he got an opportunity on a per route basis and Jacob Gibbs has highlighted this and then he got the opportunity last year and he was really good again. And so without IUK, I'm not. And again, this could change too. If IUK's ready for week one, we'll have to lower Jennings a little bit. But as of right now, I'm not expecting IUK for at least the first month of the season. I'm not expecting him to be himself for the first half of the season. So I think Jennings is. Probably functions as a wide receiver two in fantasy for the first eight weeks and then he's more of a borderline wide receiver three after that.

[Adam Azer]

So I don't believe that you were on the show when we discussed Jennings earlier this week. And Dave, you've made the move now. Unless you changed it after the show to put Pierce all ahead of Jennings. Correct.

[Heath Cummings]

Yes. More upside. And I, I didn't like the stark inconsistency that we saw in terms of fantasy production from Juwan Jennings. Here, here's a fun fact. This really means nothing. Rashad Bateman, who no one is drafting, had more games last year with 15 plus PPR points than Juwan Jennings, who everybody's drafting. I think that Jennings, I, I tend to agree that the consensus will be that Jennings will be the top target getter in San Francisco. It's what he does with those targets, how explosive he'll be with them. That's where I get hung up a little bit. And Pearsall just has an opportunity, provided that he's healthy and all that other stuff. Look, he's the more explosive receiver. He, I think he can do a little bit more as far as, you know, winning on routes against defensive backs. And Juwan Jennings, can they win in different ways. He's not as physical as Jennings, but Jennings isn't as fast or as elusive as Pearsall is. And I think there's, there's potential for Pearsall to be the best receiver in San Francisco in terms of stats, yards, touchdowns, efficiency, all that. So I, he could outproduce Juwan Jennings there. So I, I kind of want to buy into that upside a little bit more. And Jennings to me is like one of those settle four wide receiver threes and his, his. In our, in our mock drafts, our fans only mock drafts, he's going in round seven and it's late round seven and I'm totally fine with him at that cost. If we're talking about, you know, 65th overall or something like that, I think there's some other wide receivers I'd rather take the chance on than Jennings and Pearsall would be one of them.

[Adam Azer]

As we discussed earlier this week and it was the show with, with Dan Schneier that there's so much, there's so many different ways this can go. I mean, you know, again IUK can return if not week one early in the season and then, you know, it's just a, a pain in the butt to figure out who's going to be the best guy on a week to week basis. Pierce Hall's pedigree may went out and the final two games last year were very good for him. So hopefully the hamstrings right and he's going to have a strong season. Jennings, the one game you saw without Debo Samuel again George Kittle was missing but he had over 40 PPR points. I mean it was very. Yeah, a lot to like about really all three of these guys to varying degrees. I think the one thing that I think we come where we come out on as our group and our show is that Ayuk should not go first. And based on the ADP that we saw at least on fantasy pros, that IUK is being the first one drafted. So if you are buying iuk, let him fall. Don't reach for him before these guys, especially as we get closer to camp and we get a better idea of when he's going to be healthy and clearly that will change, I would hope at least. But it does make me want to draft Christian McCaffrey because if he's right, he has the chance for a big season. And it definitely makes me want to draft George Kittle because while there is a lot of questions about the receiving core, Kittle's coming off another strong season and is going to go after the top two tight ends for sure and so could still easily be in contention to be tight end one, which, you know, on a per game basis he was last year. So hopefully Kittle has another strong season. But I think it's gonna be fun to see how these receivers all sort of, you know, shake out and when they do sort of have a better, we have a better idea of what the average opposition will be. Let's talk about Matthew Golden Heath, because a lot of people wondering who's going to be the best receiver, maybe even best pass catcher because Dave has Tucker Craft on his list, which we can get to in a little bit. But in terms of Matthew golden, how do you sort of view the packers receiving for this year with Jaden Reed and maybe Christian Watson returning sooner than we expected? You know, he's already taking part in some, taking some part in OTAs, I'm sure, just, you know, working off on the side. But with Romeo Dobbs there still and Don Tavian Wicks to whatever degrees you know, how do you see Golden's role in this packers offense and how good could he be for fantasy managers?

[Dave Richard]

I expect golden to be the best wide receiver on the packers as a rookie. I expect him to play in most two wide receiver sets alongside probably Romeo Dobbs. I view this room as golden as a borderline wide receiver for three high end wide receiver, four Dobbs and Reed about eight spots behind him. I think the, the thing I struggle with is Reed's efficiency versus the fact that Dobbs is going to be on the field all the time. And that's kind of been a struggle over the last couple of years. But I said this after the NFL draft and it's just kind of my working assumption moving forward. This was a team. Not even sure if you said Don Tavian Wicks. This is a team that might have had four number two wide receivers going into the NFL draft, hadn't drafted a wide receiver in the first round. Since I've been employed at CBS and longer, I'm not sure if all of us can say that, but not Dave.

[Adam Azer]

No I think before Dave. Right.

[Heath Cummings]

What are we, what are we doing? Last time they drafted a wide receiver in round one, 2002, I was with CBS.

[Dave Richard]

Dave was always at CBS.

[Heath Cummings]

I was born in this building. Okay guys, so I, I didn't glasses on.

[Dave Richard]

My working assumption is that when they already had that many very talented number two wide receivers and they finally spent first round draft capital on a wide receiver, that golden was going to get an opportunity to function as the number one. I think he's up to that opportunity. He has better hands than anybody else on this team and he's already making some noise this summer.

[Adam Azer]

So when are you comfortable taking golden and redraft league? I.

[Dave Richard]

It's got to be as a, as a bench wide receiver. I'm not comfortable starting him early in the year even though I'm optimistic about what type of upside he could have. I, I think seven, eight turn and really I'd prefer round eight is, is a good time for Golden.

[Adam Azer]

Dave, you think that's too soon?

[Heath Cummings]

I, well, I don't know if it's necessarily too soon. It's too rich for my blood. The ADP says Heath could wait a full round after that and still get Matthew Golden. So this, this, I think this is the second player in a row Heath, where you're taking a guy around ahead of, of our ADP and that's fine. Listen, you're entitled to that and when you're right about it, you'll look like a genius. The thing that worries me a little bit about golden is it took him a while to be the number one receiver at Texas and when he was, he was great and his playing time went up. His the efficiency was awesome. I'm wondering if they're going to take it slowly with golden and so I like right now I am drafting Kraft out of Golden. I know that sounds preposterous, but I really think that Kraft has potential to be a really good PPR tight end. His efficiency was outstanding last year. He just needs more targets per game. They've already been talking like they're going to do that in Green Bay. I'm good with Tucker Kraft As a top 10 fantasy tight end, but if, if we're doing drafts at mid season, I got a feeling Matthew golden would be like one of the best breakout candidates then. So if you do draft Golden, I'd wait till round 89 instead of 78 and I'd be really patient because the talent is, is awesome based on those last 10 games of last season. And I'm, I'm hoping that the packers can do something that we haven't really seen them do in a long, long time, and that's create a good receiver in his first year. For fantasy purposes, we can cover craft.

[Adam Azer]

And tie in this, this entire group because I think as we've seen and we talked about that, there's just not a lot of targets for, for, for the lead guy. It, it feels like we're going to see maybe 110 targets as the number one option unless things dramatically change. And Jordan Love, I think recently just addressed, you know, how he played last year versus the success of the team. And there was a new wrinkle added based on how 2023 finished to 2024, which was Josh Jacobs. So is this going to be a little bit more of a pass happy team? And it sounds like that's what you're thinking, Heath? I think based on the draft capital maybe for golden, that they could throw the ball a little bit more and involve Golden. Maybe more so than what we saw for the last two years of the number one receiver.

[Dave Richard]

I. Yes, on the second part, for sure, the first part, if they had not drafted Matthew Golden, I would have projected them to throw more than they did last year because last year was such a outlier in terms of what Matt LaFleur has done and in terms of what the general NFL does. Like they, they just decided after Love got hurt and struggled with the interceptions early in the year that they were just going to run the ball and run the bowl and run the ball. And so I think there's a little bit of regression back to the mean. Even if they don't take a wide receiver in round one. But yeah, the, the white ride wide receiver in round one does influence that as well. The other thing I wanted to say about what Dave said about taking a guy around before their adp, that is a much different discussion. If you're talking about taking a guy with a round late round three ADP in round two or maybe even round three versus Round four. If you're talking about a guy with a round eight or later ADP and you want that guy on your team, I would not advise waiting until his ADP to take him because there's a wide range of where guys go that late in the draft.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, you have a better chance of losing out on that guy if you.

[Adam Azer]

Wait till the ADP that you're also dependent on where you're drafting. You know, if you're on an end, you're also looking at the position, you know, because adps, even if it's specific to the format that you're in. You know, you never know how that's going to go with the draft that you're doing and the people that you're drafting with. So it's just a guide. You're gonna Hear us say ADP for certain players, numbers different ADPs, especially as the summer goes on. Don't let that influence when you take a player. If you have a feeling on a player like Heath, likes Matthew golden, don't lose out on that player and say, oh, the ADP was around later. I could have waited. No, get the guy that you want, especially as Heath is saying that latent the draft. All right, so you made a big trade to get DeAndre Swift in a dynasty league. Let's talk about his redraft value. So if Dobbins is off the market, let's say and he goes to Denver and maybe there is still the interest in Nick Chubb, but let's just say that they get to to week one, forget about training camp. They get to week one and it's DeAndre Swift and either some combination of Roshan Johnson or Mahogany Monogony, whatever his name is, the rookie that they drafted late in the NFL draft, Swift could be in maybe the best situation of his career. So your expectations for DeAndre Swift are.

[Dave Richard]

I, if they don't add anybody else, I've got him at RB 16 or 17 in the projections. He has been between that range and RB24 his entire career. He's never finished outside of the top 24 running backs on a per game basis and now he may have the least competition. Well, do you count Jalen hurts his competition in Philadelphia? Maybe. But the least competition that he's faced with the Ben Johnson upgrade. And so I, I, it feels like Swift is currently being drafted as if the team's already signed Dobbins or Chubb or just with the expectation that eventually they're going to sign Dobbins or Chubb and that hasn't happened yet. So you can draft him at cost right now. And if they do sign Dobbins or Chubb, it's still probably what he's worth. Even if they sign one of those guys, they're not going to take the passing downs work and we know the Johnson offense has thrown to the running backs a lot and if they don't sign one of those guys, there's legitimate top 12 upside for Swift. And I think that the what Dave said earlier in the show about the the 12 PPR fantasy points per game, again, I think that's closer to what Swift's demonstrated floor is. And he had 12 and a half PPR fantasy points per game last year. He had 12 and a half, I think in 2023. But he's also shown the ability to score significantly more than that. And I don't. He's never been worse than that.

[Heath Cummings]

Rashad White averaged 12 1/2 PPR points per game last year that finished 23rd among running back. So if you're drafting him with that type of expectation, I don't think it's very exciting, but it's, I think it's fair. And my guess is that we're both going to look like geniuses for half the season and like donkeys for half the season because there, there have been, you know, portions of previous years where DeAndre Swift catches fire, looks like a must start fantasy running back. And then something happens. Either he loses playing time or quarterback starts taking touchdowns away from him or he gets hurt and then he's useless for fantasy managers. And you're wondering why you even put him on your team in the first place. But okay, I think if you're drafting him to be a low end number two fantasy running back, maybe he's got a little bit of upside. Hey, it's got to be considered a good thing that he's still even on the Bears. Ben Johnson's had months to evaluate him and he's clearly decided, okay, I want this guy on my team. I don't think there's any reason for him to cut him necessarily anyway. Yeah, he's probably gonna be a borderline number two fantasy running back. If you draft him past that point, then I guess it makes sense. When are you drafting him? That's the big question.

[Dave Richard]

I'll draft him as a low end RB2. I think if you look at the five years of his career, it's two 12 and a half point per game performances. There's a 13 and a half, there's a 14 and a half and there's a 16 and a half. If this is the best situation of his career, I'm not sure why the assumption would be he's just going to be the worst that he's ever been.

[Adam Azer]

It's a matter of it's going to.

[Heath Cummings]

Be the best situation of his career.

[Adam Azer]

Well, I mean, it could be there, there's, there's clearly, you know, ways that this could go poorly. You know, if Ben Johnson, who had him at one point, you know, this was one of his coaches previously and had some, you know, up and down usage with him when he was in Detroit and so can he get the touchdowns. We saw that that was an issue for him in Philadelphia when he was having a productive season. So this could be Roshan Johnson, Caleb Williams, you know, any other running back that's on the roster that may be taking those opportunities away from him. So those, you know, additional points that we love aren't going to be there for him. The role in the passing game may not materialize like what we saw from Detroit. And so there are some things that may be keeping him from, you know, reaching what could be a nice ceiling and still giving him a decent floor. I think just the, the idea would be, and I'm guessing we all kind of come out in the same scenario from a draft perspective, drafting him after RB20 I think makes some sense, you know. Yeah. And when you factor in some of these rookie situations that could get even more murky. Hampton with Naji Harris there, maybe Now Harvey with J.K. dobbins there, Caleb Johnson with Jalen Warren there, like, you know, they're even Henderson with, you know, Ramandre Stevenson there, like these could all be bad for these rookies. As much as we like their opportunities more so long term maybe than short term. Swift, if he's the lead running back for Ben Johnson with a revamped offensive line and better quarterback play, it could be a pretty, pretty solid season for me. I think you want to jump in, just get the last word here.

[Dave Richard]

No, no, that was. You've said most of the things I was going to say. I would say I'm a little bit higher than RB20, but whether he's above or below the non genty rookies for me is gonna really come down to whether or not Dobbins or Chubbs on the Bears. But if those guys are not on the Bears, I'll take him over any rookie not named Genti.

[Heath Cummings]

Middle around 60s.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, that's the thing is I, I would take him, yes, I probably take him in round five usually because I take him around earlier than adp. But I, I think he's worth a pick in round four. I don't, I think round six is insanely late value for him.

[Adam Azer]

Jane Daniels, I don't think we need to spend much time on him. But Heath, if I'm not mistaken, he is your QB1 for this year, correct?

[Dave Richard]

He's my QB1. I never draft him as QB1. I just wait until Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson get taken and usually in our drafts Daniel's there in round four and that's when I why I have.

[Adam Azer]

So much of him so any concern over a step back?

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, my only concern is an injury. I I thought what he did last year and the way he produced fantasy points was mostly sustainable. He added a second weapon in Debo Samuel. Whichever. Whatever you think of how much Samuel has left over in the tank, it's more than what the wide receiver 2, 3 and 4 were producing in Washington last year. I think the weapons got better. He's had another year to get comfortable with the offense. I hope he doesn't get hurt.

[Adam Azer]

I want to make do you fear a C.J. stroud situation where great as a rookie and I know the running is clearly different but just in terms of great rookie season step back in year two to whatever degree, I think the I.

[Heath Cummings]

Think the situation around Daniels is a lot cooler than the situation that was around Stroud last year. There seemed to be some sort of disconnect between the play caller, the offensive line and the quarterback. I don't think that's going to be the case. Even though now the left tackle for Washington is Houston's left tackle from last year. My guess is that they'll all be on the same page and Daniels can pick up where he left off. And here's where he was in his last six games. This is week 12 through 18 and includes a dud in week 18. He didn't even play the whole game. 30.4 fantasy points per game and six points. It's really good. And even if you Throw out week 18 now we've got a five game small sample size but it's 35.6. You could argue he's got the most upside of anybody in fantasy football this year.

[Adam Azer]

Look, if he hits, he's going to look great as the QB one. I think most people probably draft him as early as QB3 behind in some order of Allen or Jackson. Jackson Allen. But I like him ahead of Burrow and Hertz and we'll see if he continues to stay in that range from a draft perspective. Before we take a break, let's answer a couple questions that you guys have in the chat. So keep you guys interested in sending those questions which we appreciate. Frank the Tank wants to know. Please grade the trade. He got Keon Coleman for a 2026 late second and a late 2026 fourth round pick. So Keon Coleman for two draft picks next year. Heath, do you like that deal?

[Dave Richard]

I think that's okay. I'm not jumping up and down on the table if I make that trade, but there's a Little bit of chance for Keon Coleman to take a step in his second year and if he does, he's got Josh Allen as his quarterback and you hope that 20, 26 second is actually a late second.

[Heath Cummings]

Somebody paid a top 15 pick for him and you just got him for what would it be like 18th through 24th next year and a fourth rounder that no one's going to remember. That's a, that's a good deal. That's good shopping.

[Adam Azer]

Dave, are you targeting any stacks this year? Kyle wants to know from the Bengals, Eagles, etc, when you're drafting and redraft, you make it a priority to stack, quarterback, wide receiver, tight end, any of those positions to sort of maximize your point production.

[Heath Cummings]

No, you know, I, I don't necessarily love doing that, but I, I get the, the appeal for it. I just worry that like if one of those players goes bad, then they both kind of go bad and I don't really, I don't really target any stacks per se.

[Adam Azer]

Heath, we have a dynasty startup Draft on Dynasty FFT tomorrow Friday at 11:30am Eastern Husky Huskies wants to know in a dynasty startup super flex tight end premium is Brock Bowers at pick number four. Is that out of line?

[Dave Richard]

No, no, I was just, I had somebody asked me on Twitter yesterday, no, it wasn't tight end premium and they said what's, what's the best pick to select in a, in a startup? And for me it was pretty clearly 3. Give me one of Jackson, Allen or Daniels and then I'll take the late second moving forward in tight end premium, Bowers is in contention for that fourth pick. He's a first round pick for me. If it's not tight end premium. So I, I, I'm not saying it's definitely the right pick, but it's not out of line at all.

[Adam Azer]

It's funny you say pick three. That's the pick I chose in the draft room that you sent out. Then you said you made a mistake. I went back and David already taken pick three in the, in the next version, so I took pick four. So thanks, Dave. I appreciate that. All right, we'll take a break when we come back and get into Dave's most targeted players in his drafts. We already mentioned Tucker Craft. We'll get into the other guys that Dave is looking at so far in the drafts that we've already done in 2025.

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[Adam Azer]

Right, so get into Dave Richards players that he's drafting the most so far, the players targeting in his drafts so far and Dave's probably done the most drafts I would assume of all of us based on the only fans drafts that he's doing to build up a nice average draft position for us [e-mail] so let's show the five players that Dave is looking at. We already mentioned Tucker Kraft as one of them. He's got Jared Goff, Chuba Hubbard, Devonte Adams, another tight end in Tyler Warren, and again Craft. Dave, do we have to add anything else to Craft or is no, we're good.

[Heath Cummings]

We can move on from crafting just to hit on Warren. This is a late round pick in the same vein as Brock Bowers last year where a lot of people were nervous about getting in a playmaking type of tight end, a physical beast of a tight end on an offense that really wasn't very appealing. Big time questions about the quarterback and especially in the case of Bowers, everyone looked at him and said there's no way he's going to have a lot of targets. They've got devonte Adams on that team. And it turned out that Adams wasn't on the team for very long and even when he was, Bowers was doing some good things. Bowers turned into a dynamo. Look at where we're drafting Bowers now. I don't think that Warren will be as good as Brock Bowers last year, but he is in that same sort of mold, at least as far as physically. He's not as fast, but it's somebody who I could see getting plenty of target volume and making a lot of numbers after the catch in Indianapolis. Clearly they're going to find ways to feature him as part of the offense and getting that guy in the double digit rounds. It just seems to me like you're. You're getting great value there. So whether I get Bowers in round two or Tucker Kraft in round nine, I'm looking at Warren just to as a blue chip player on my bench to start the season.

[Adam Azer]

So two questions then. Heath, you can follow up as well. Which quarterback do you want to see starting for the Colts the majority of season to maximize Tyler Warren's potential? And then are you taking Tyler Warren over Colston Loveless who is also considered one of the top. What I said, you said Loveless.

[Heath Cummings]

Is that throwing shade at him?

[Adam Azer]

No, Loveland. Excuse me? You know me, I butcher names enough Loveland or Warren. Which tight end are you taking first in redraft weeks?

[Heath Cummings]

We might be calling him Loveless when he goes touchdownless through the first four weeks of the season. Okay. I don't care which quarterback is under center for Indianapolis for Tyler Warren because Tyler Warren isn't going to run a lot of routes 10 yards downfield. So I would hope that whoever Shane Steichen picks to be the quarterback can throw an accurate ball inside of 10 yards and certainly behind the line of scrimmage to Tyler Warren. Second part of your question was what.

[Adam Azer]

Which tight end Rich rookie tight end.

[Heath Cummings]

Do you prefer the Bears guy over Loveless Loveland? Love forever.

[Adam Azer]

Heath. Which quarterback do you like for the Colts receivers and which rookie tight end you prefer?

[Dave Richard]

That I don't like a quarterback for the Colts wide receivers but I'll say Anthony Richardson just because he's been bad less and so there's more hope that something could change with him. And I, I think Warren for me is just a dart throw after I already have a start. Maybe if I took a starting tight end that I don't like or that I don't like. The upside and he's just a floor play then I'll take Warren. But I, I don't have much expectation for Warren until they get the quarterback situation figured out.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, I like Loveland a little bit better than Warren. I do think that the quarterbacks are kind of so similar and somewhat of their profile that Jones just has a better passer will be better but they're both going to run. I don't think they're going to necessarily elevate the, the pass catchers there to a certain degree that it's okay. This guy's dramatically better than the other one and I'm more so hoping that Richardson working with Josh Allen's quarterback guy from a mechanics perspective and just, you know, getting a little bit more experience will help him. But I do agree with Dave, you know, like the, the routes that Warren will run will hopefully be still capable for either quarterback to, you know, maintain a level of production for him and maybe even the same for Pittman and Josh Downs. But in, in the case of Loveland, you know, this is something, you know, nitpicking, but the draft Capital Bears had an opportunity to draft either one of these guys. That's the one they chose. And hopefully Ben Johnson track record with tight ends as we saw with a great rookie tight end performance with, with Laporta that hopefully that helps Loveland as well. So I give a slight edge to Loveland over Warren, but would be happy to draft both.

[Heath Cummings]

So you love love more, I love.

[Adam Azer]

Love, lend love less love whoever the tight end for the Bears I like better than Tyler Warren and hopefully I'll get his name right by the time I have to draft him. All right, let's talk about Devonte Adams. I know he spent a little bit of time on him yesterday as well, but in terms of overall production, 32 years old, 33 in December, did not show a significant drop off by any stretch last year, especially once he got to the jets with Aaron Rodgers. How good can Devonte Adams be? And when you're drafting.

[Heath Cummings]

I like drafting him in round four. Sometimes I get them in round five. That's really when I get excited. I would take him in late round three, but there'd have to be a big mix of other players that go ahead of him before I take them. So because I'm taking Adams ahead of some other players that are going in round three, I can usually find him in round four. But even last year, weird situation in Vegas and then he goes to New York and it takes him a little while to get on the same page with Aaron Rodgers. He still averaged over 17 PPR points. I'm not going to say that he's going to forever defy Father Time, but I think you brought it up yesterday. Jamie, like the great ones tend to last a little bit longer and play at a higher level longer than your average and above average NFL players. I think he's still very good at what he does. I think the role that he'll play in LA is going to be something that favors him a lot. I don't think he'll see a lot of double teams he did in New York and that led to Garrett Wilson having some games where he Got a lot of targets. I still think he's a good player. And so the only reason to not take is the Grandma Gilmore argument. He's too old. And I don't think we should say that about Devonte Adams because he's been old for the last several seasons and it's been 17.2, 15.6, and then it was 16.3. In 2023, the Raiders let go of McDaniels. And then two years ago, I don't even know if this matters or if anybody cares, but it was 19.7. And so I think his ceiling is really close to where he was last year. And that's 17 points a game. I'm drafting him, hoping that he can get around 16 PPR points per game as, as a quality target and a great offense. No one's arguing about that in la where he should be schemed open quite a bit and be a red zone threat. Kind of like Cooper cup was last year. And when cup was healthy, he had a stretch of seven games. Even though he wasn't fast, he was still putting up good fantasy numbers.

[Adam Azer]

Heath, what's your projection for Devonte Adams?

[Dave Richard]

It's higher than where I have him ranked because I'm discounting him a little bit because of age. But 84 catches, a thousand yards, nine touchdowns on 145 targets.

[Adam Azer]

And I think the thing that we brought, it was Heath, by the way, who brought up that, you know, he's not necessarily aging poorly and can still be great based on some of the 32 old wide receivers that have been great throughout their, you know, twilight of their careers. I, I think the thing that's, you know, going to be interesting to note, I brought this up in, in the conversation like he may be the best receiver for the Rams, you know, like we're anticipating Puka Nakua still being that guy. But devonte Adams could easily join the breakfast club. He can easily be the guy Matthew Stafford leans on. He could easily be still a premier wide receiver and certainly for stretches of the season. And the other part of this is kind of, you know, Adam brought this up yesterday that before the last three games of the season, which is kind of, I think what everybody's attaching Cooper cup to cup when he was healthy, was still being a very productive fantasy wide receiver. NFL wide receiver Sean McVeigh is going to have a lot of fun scheming these guys open and that they don't really need help doing on their own or that they can get it done on their own. You know, so the combination of McVeigh and Stafford with Adams in an offense that's going to be I expect having a lot of targets funneled in their direction and, and yes, Tyler Higby and Terence Ferguson are going to get their chances. And you know, Tutu Atwell, who, you know Sean McVeigh did sort of say he didn't give enough opportunities to and they gave him I think a bigger contract than many people expected. One year, $10 million. He'll get some chances too. But it'd be shocking if it's. What would you say, heath? Less than 120 for both of those guys in. In Puka and Adams if they're healthy, 130, 150. Like where's the number end if they're.

[Dave Richard]

Both healthy all year long and Stafford's there? I think it would be shocking if they don't both have 130 targets. Yeah, I think, I think one be. I've got them both projected for at least 145. Take one target per game off that and it'd be pretty surprising if, if you saw Devonte Adams at 125 targets next year.

[Heath Cummings]

How many cats did you have Devonte for?

[Dave Richard]

84.

[Heath Cummings]

So not even a 60 catch rate.

[Dave Richard]

I not sure that he had a 60 catch rate last year did.

[Adam Azer]

He's getting a quarterback upgrade though.

[Dave Richard]

It was a 59 last year he was at 59. In 2023 he was at 60%.

[Heath Cummings]

Okay.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, 55 in 2022. Maybe it goes up a little bit.

[Adam Azer]

It's gonna be interesting. You know, I think Adams is going to end up being as he was last year, you know, very good value pick for someone that can go maybe round four, probably round three could produce like a top two round player. And again as I was, I was about to say like Puka missed a lot of time last year too, you know. So if he gets hurt and easily Adams becomes that go to guy, it could be a fantastic year even at age 32 for Devonte Adams. Chuba Hubber Dave is someone we've talked a lot about on this show as well. Not in the last couple of weeks. How excited are you for him knowing that there is no Jonathan Brooks but there is now Rico Dowdle. There is Trevor etn. There is a better Bryce Young. He's coming off an amazing season like just your take on Chuba and when you plan to draft him, he's someone.

[Heath Cummings]

That I'm looking for in round three if I need a running back. Otherwise round four, no matter what. Sometimes I have a tough time picking between Chuba and Devonte when they're both on the board. And really it'll come down to what I think will be available with my next pick in terms of running backs and wide receivers. And usually another running back that I'm taking a lot of is James Connor. Usually I'll take Adams over Chuba, knowing that I can get James Connor in the next round. I like Connor a lot, too. I nearly put him on this list. I look at Dowdle and Trevor ETN as as mild factors. I'm not worried about either one of them taking Chuba off the field. I think he's earned it. I think he was a really good running back last year. Panthers clearly agree. They gave him a nice big contract. That offensive line got better last year, so I think they'll be more cohesive and be better in 2025. You said it. Bryce Young definitely got better toward the end of last year. I'm sure they're hoping to build on that. They added Tech McMillan, so it's going to be a little bit harder for defenses to stack the box against Chuba Hubbard. And last year he averaged over 16 fantasy points per game in PPR. He had at least 14 touches in 13 of 15 games. He had at least 15 PPR points in 9 of 15 games. I think he's just like a good, solid running back that people don't necessarily give credit for, but when it comes to fantasy points, he delivered last year. We've seen a spurt before in his career when he's done it, but really all I'm looking at is the opportunity that he's got now, meshing it with the opportunity and the talent that we saw last year. I. I'm sure he's going to lose some work to Dowdle and etn, but I don't think it's going to be enough. That makes his numbers crater the the.

[Adam Azer]

Round three running backs at least that what we've seen is Bucky Irving, Jonathan Taylor, James Cook. You're taking him ahead of any of those guys.

[Heath Cummings]

No, no, no. I can double check on Cook, but I don't think so.

[Dave Richard]

I. I've got him ahead of Cook.

[Heath Cummings]

Closer to the round four, Round five range. Now I've got Cook one spot ahead of Chuba. I'm taking Chuba ahead of Kamara, taking him out of Kenneth Walker. Like I said, Connor, Breece, Hall, Montgomery. He's kind of the first of the last best RB2s, right?

[Dave Richard]

And I've got him right in the same range as the guy I talked about DeAndre Swift. The difference being you can wait longer to take Swift. Chuba is probably a little bit safer than Swift, but I think they both could be top 12 running backs if.

[Adam Azer]

Things go right as they were. Well, at least as Chuba was last year. I just can't take him in round three. I think round four is, is a good spot. If you're looking for, you know, the, the range of guys that you listed, I think he's. I would take Walker over him. I think he's closer to the Camara Hall. I would, I would take him out of Swift. But you know, that, that group of guys, Connor, you know, where the rookies start to come into play, I just get a little bit concerned about, you know, and I don't disagree that they're, they're kind of just guys at this point. Rico Donald and, and, and Trevor Etn. But if he loses some of the passing downs work to Etn, who could come in and, you know, be a factor early in his career. And if Dowdle takes a few opportunities away, like he just didn't have that last year. I know Miles Sanders was taking some chances away, but I think this group of players, because Brooks didn't really get an opportunity like this. Backfield got a little bit deeper. And so just how much of 10 of the work, 15 of the work, you know, goes to those other guys and does harbor just lose a little bit to knock him down a peg or two? And is he really that talented? I think he's a good player. I just don't know if he's a great player. And so that's, I think what we'll find out. Like the situation last year really improved because whether it was the combination of Dalton and the better Bryce Young at the end of the season, the offensive line certainly took a step forward. The play calling, I think, took a step forward with Canals. So it's a good situation for him for sure. But taking a little bit of work away, see how talented he is, it just makes me a little bit concerned. But still, round four for me is a, is a great spot to, to target him. So Jared Goff, Dave is a quarterback coming off a great season last year, now loses another offensive lineman, now loses his offense coordinator Gaines, I don't know if you want to say, gains a weapon in Tesla, but they did draft a rookie wide receiver. But in any event has his cast of characters back. How good can Jarv Goff be? And are you drafting him as a number one quarterback?

[Heath Cummings]

He's good enough to. Where when you see him in round 12, you go, what the hell is this guy doing in round 12? He's better than round 12. I'll take him. And so this is much more of a value play rather than me planting a flag saying Jared Goff is going to be a top five fantasy quarterback again. I think it's in his profile, but I think it's much more reasonable to draft him as one of these 20 to 22 point per game quarterbacks in six point. I don't, I don't see the Lions running as much as they did last year. I think they're going to throw a little bit more. And I do worry a little bit about Ragnow not being there at center. Not enough to make me downgrade Goff anymore, but he just keeps slipping in drafts. He's not a sexy pick. People are taking Caleb Williams over him in, in our adp. CJ Stroud's going ahead of him. Brock Purdy's going ahead of him. I understand that. He's exactly in that same boat. Justin Fields is going ahead of him. I agree with that because I think Fields has a little bit more upside than golf because of his rushing. But I think Goff is still capable of being a fantasy starter. And round 12 is just too late for a guy who, who played well last year and probably played over his skis, but also has just an outstanding receiving core to throw to. And like you said, that hasn't changed. And I don't think the playbook is going to be, you know, dumbed down to what you'd see in a peewee league. And Johnny Morton's gonna stink at calling plays. I think he, I think he's capable of doing what he's doing. I don't know if he's as good as Ben Johnson or as creative as Ben Johnson, but I think that we can still see Jared Goff be effective as a week in, week out starter. The price tag of round 12 is egregious.

[Adam Azer]

Heath, would you rather take one of the high upside quarterbacks like a Justin Fields, a Caleb Williams, a Drake May, And I say high upside because again, you know, there's, there's expectations for these guys, but they haven't necessarily done it in some cases by, by comparison to Jared Goff, or do you settle for a Jared Goff and then take the high upside quarterback later? Like, how do you approach taking somebody like golf who's got a good floor but may not hit to like an Anthony Richardson, even if, if that ever comes to fruition?

[Dave Richard]

I think that conversation is changing as there are a couple of cracks show up in the floor for Jared Goff. I get you kind of have to just dismiss the Ben Johnson concerns or the Ragnow concerns or the immense amount of regression that's likely coming for golf concerns. And, and I'm finding it harder to do that. So I would definitely take Fields over him. And I think there's a group of guys that are going to have a really good opportunity to move ahead of him in July if we get some positive reports about Caleb Williams taking a step forward. For me, if Anthony Richardson wins the week one job, if Kyler Murray gets a little bit more buzz, I could definitely see taking Kyler Murray ahead of him. So there's, there's a few guys that I could see. Golf's my QB12 right now. I, I don't have him ranked in round 12. So I guess I agree with Dave that that's too late. But I also don't often find myself taking him just because of that reason. He falls to round 12. It's like, you know, he just had a, the by far the most efficient season of his career and finished QB 7 it per game. What's regression going to look like?

[Adam Azer]

The, the thing that, you know, it's not necessarily tearing quarterbacks. It's more like just grouping quarterbacks. Yeah. And so I feel like if field tits can be better than golf, if Caleb Williams hits, can be better than golf, if Kyler Murray hits better than golf, Drake may if he hits, Richardson if he hits. And then Goff is kind of like, okay, I'll pair him with one of those guys with Brock Purdy, with tua, you know, again it's a sliding scale. But you know, with tua, with Stafford, you know, with, with these guys that you kind of just know what you're getting, which is very good production, you know, can easily be top seven, can easily be top ten, you know, but it feels like if they slip a little bit, like 2 of points per game, you know, forget about the total games. 2 as points per game went from like, I forget it was like 20 or 21 points per game, 22 points per game at most in 2023 when he led the NFL in passing yards. Keep that stat in your head. And then last year was right around 19 points per game, so slipped a couple of points. But still the floor is, is fine. Like you could still win your fantasy weeks with that. It's not going to dominate your opponent. You're going to struggle a little bit more clearly. But fields could be 25 points per game. Richardson could be 25 points per game. Like, you know, you're wanting the next Jane Daniels. You're wanting that guy who's going to get to the 30 points at the end of the season, the Jordan Love finish at the end of 20, 23. Like, that's at least the way I drafted that position. Like, that's the way I want it to be. As opposed to, like, okay, golf's gonna be that steady 21, 22, it's great. But candy consistently gets that north of 25. If everything goes right and it feels like everything just has to go right.

[Heath Cummings]

Because he doesn't run well, are we discounting the. Jared Goff can get to 25 points per game? Yes, he did. I don't think last year he was at 25.5, so a little bit of a slow start, but he, he got there for the majority of the year. I'm not drafting him to do that again. I, I would love to take Goff and any of the quarterbacks you just named James and have a duo. And that way I feel like I've got. I've got one guy that might overperform and one guy that might underperform, and you just take it week by week.

[Adam Azer]

It's very interesting to talk about these guys. After the top six quarterbacks, you know, where Baker comes in, where Bonix comes in. You know, some, you know, Nick's is. Is another guy. So I don't want to spend too much time on my list. I want to answer some of the questions there. So let's just show you the, the top five guys for me real quick. And we've talked about a bunch of them already. T. Higgins, we spent some time on yesterday. Still need to get into that. Cortland Sutton, for me, is, you know, somebody that similar to Jerry Judy just falls to a spot where I feel like it's just too easy to draft him. And the, the touchdowns, 18 over the last two years with Sean Payton. I think Knicks, who again, you know, should take a step forward, so excited to draft him at his spot. The two running backs that are listed here in Jordan Mason, Isaac Arando, they're going to need an injury to become consistent fantasy starters. Obviously more so for Garendo than Mason, because I think Mason's going to have a role for the Vikings. But these are two guys that just end up in such great spots on draft day. At least the drafts that we've done so far that they're easy to take and throw. Zach Charbonne into that mix throw ties a Spears. Those are other guys. I just didn't want to list all the running backs that I tend to draft in those spots. But you know, high end guys that could be league winners if injury ever occurs and you know the situations for some of them like Spears. I don't think we spent a lot of time talking about how he was productive with Tony Pollard. In the one game that Pollard missed, he was, you know, north of of 30 he had 13 half PPR points per game and a couple games around that stretch where he was over 17. So it could still be very good in tandem with Pollard. But Mason, Garendo, Charbonnet, spears, those are four guys that anywhere between round eight, round 10, you know, easy guys to sort of put on your, on your bench. And and I do think Bo Nicks is sort of ahead of the quarterbacks that we talked about. I don't know where you guys come out on Knicks vs Golf. I like Nick's potential ceiling a little bit better but again can easily pair those two guys. If you expect next to regress a little bit because of a better run game then maybe we see, you know, golf and nicks in that 22 point per game range. And I'm fine with, you know, pairing those two guys but you know, five guys that I've been drafting a lot of. Again, we don't need to spend too much time on these guys. You've heard enough about them. So let's get to some of your questions before we wrap this up up. Let's see here. Who have we not gotten to yet? Reese wants to know of the former round one NFL draft picks, which has the most upside for 2025 of is that Devonte Smith? I guess Devonte Smith, Jerry Judy, Zay Flowers or Calvin Ridley. So Heath of that group is Judy your favorite to draft.

[Dave Richard]

So I would say Judy has the most upside without an injury to somebody else on his own team. Smith has the most upside if you're factoring in the possibility of an injury.

[Adam Azer]

Dave, you agree?

[Heath Cummings]

Totally agree.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, so Judy's the one you should probably look at first and look well, hopefully Ridley benefits with Cam Ward in in Ridley's games last year when it was not Will Levis, he went from around 11 PPR points per game for the season to over 14 PPR points per game. The game started by Mason Rudolph. So hopefully Cam Ward is just as good as Mason Rudolph and we'll see great production from from Ridley this year.

[Heath Cummings]

Jamie Todd Monkin talked up Zay Flowers this week and said that they need to get the ball in his hands more. All right, Adam brought that up yesterday, you idiot. Why didn't you do that last year or the year before? And then the second question is how can you do that when you just added DeAndre Hopkins and you still have the two good tight ends and oh yeah, Derrick Henry's there. I feel like that's one of those things I need to see before I.

[Adam Azer]

Believe we are again, you know, very similar to the Brandon Ayuk adp. We are going to be lower on where Zay Flowers gets drafted versus his ADP because I think we see some of the pitfalls of his fantasy profile versus his NFL profile. He could be great. I just don't know if his fantasy production will ever get there in the offense that he plays in. Kyle wants to know for Redraft, Travion Henderson or Amarian Hampton who has the better year. Your thoughts?

[Dave Richard]

Heath Cummings for Redraft, I will say that it is format dependent and full ppr. Henderson's going to be better this year in my opinion and half and non ppr. I'll take him.

[Adam Azer]

Hampton.

[Heath Cummings]

Pains me to say this but it's, it's Hampton for me in all formats, even full ppr. I love Henderson's talent, really don't like where he landed. Really expect the Patriots to use multiple running backs and I expect the Chargers too as well. I just figure that the Chargers will eventually get the hint at some point that Hampton's better than Naji Harris.

[Adam Azer]

I will take Henderson over Hampton, but it's close. I just think in PPR you're going to get more receptions for Henderson and he's competing with Ramandre Stevenson who's got a fumble history. Naji Harris does not and I think the coaching staff will keep him on the field a little bit too much in terms of Naji by comparison to using what hopefully will be a better talent in Hampton. Top tier wants to know ideal round to target a tight end not named Bowers in ppr. So Dave, for you, would that be Craft in round nine?

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, I would look at those tight ends starting in that round nine plus range. I think Najoku's adp. It depends on where you look, but it could be further than that. I would take Najoku over Kraft over Warren in a heartbeat but I, I like a lot of the tight ends that you can get late on draft day so I'm not reaching for any of the big three tight ends. That's Bowers, it's McBride that's Kittle don't want to reach for them. If I can steal them I will, but otherwise I will wait toward the later rounds and get one or two tight ends.

[Dave Richard]

McBride falls to round three on occasion and I love that when that happens, I take him. Kittle falls to round four on occasion. I love that and I take him.

[Adam Azer]

I still take laporta in round six when he's there. I think Najoku in a similar range is worth taking, you know, around six, Round seven. You can probably wait a little bit to get him because I think people don't necessarily draft him as early as I've seen that certainly in the best ball drafts that I've done where he falls to like round 10, which is a little crazy. So those are easy tight ends to target for me and I would take McBride and Bowers in round two and I like McBride slightly better than Bowers just with the offense. The changes that are coming a little bit For Las Vegas Amstel54 wants to know Jaden Higgins Ceiling Heath so what do you think about the Houston rookie in a receiving core that features Nico Collins and also added Christian Kirk?

[Dave Richard]

I I've talked to a lot of people over the last month on the Dynasty show that are we're more excited about Higgins than I was. So I think in fact a lot of Nico Collins comps from multiple people. I I think, I think reasonably the ceiling for Redraft this year is a wide receiver. 3 and I would say the the ceiling for Dynasty is that he becomes a Dynasty wide receiver too.

[Heath Cummings]

Dave yeah, I don't think it's that high for Redraft for Higgins because it's not just Nico he's sharing with, it's Christian Kirk. And Joe Mixon's gonna run the ball a lot too. I I think they take it easy with Higgins. I agree with those comps. I really like Higgins as a player. I just don't like that he's on a team with with a number one receiver who's pretty young and really good. In Nico Collins, I've avoided him in Dynasty. Maybe he becomes a number two wide receiver a couple of times over his career. But I I just, I'm very worried about him having huge numbers as the number two receiver in Houston.

[Adam Azer]

Ghazi wants to know what are your thoughts on DK Metcalf? Dave haven't seen too many people talking about him, so let's go with the assumption Aaron Rodgers does sign there. What do you think DK Metcalf does?

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, I I think he'll be the most targeted wide receiver in Pittsburgh. I don't know if that even means 120 targets when it's all said and done. Probably production like we're used to seeing from him in Seattle where he underwhelms is under 15 PPR points per game. Has a couple of big spike weeks. Otherwise not that great of a receiver for fantasy. Probably gonna get drafted as a low end number two wide receiver and finish the year right on the wide receiver, two, three fence.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, right on the wide receiver, two, three fence, I think is a perfect way of putting it. I would rather draft Jerry Judy to kind of tie it together with the earlier in the show.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. Adam has talked a lot about this. We'll see if it happens. But Rogers uber targeting his number one receiver. And right now it looks like DK Metcalfe, barring maybe a John New Smith trade, will be easily the number one target for the Steelers. So we'll see what happens there and hopefully we'll have a Rogers decision sooner rather than later. All right, three more questions. Let's just do one each per person answering it. So, Heath, I'll come to you first on this one or come to you on this one. Evan Ingram in Denver, how does he rank in the tight end draft list?

[Dave Richard]

I have never considered drafting Evan Ingram so far this summer. A lot of other people are more excited about him. So if you want to be one of those people, you should ask someone besides Heath. But I this has not been a player who's done anything besides. He's like the Deontay Johnson of tight ends. He earns a lot of targets and he does not turn those into fantasy points. And I don't think another year older coming off of an injury in a Denver Broncos offense that is not thrown to their tight ends hardly at all because they throw to their running backs more than everybody else. I don't think Evan Ingram is a difference maker.

[Adam Azer]

Dave, you did want to jump in.

[Heath Cummings]

So I mean, I'd like you. You only want one person to answer, so I'm trying to respect the rules.

[Adam Azer]

Very good. Go ahead.

[Heath Cummings]

Awesome. This is another tight end that I'd look to have as a late round pick because half of the people in every league are going to think like Heath and and that Evan Ingram might not get great volume because other tight ends who have absolutely sucked in Denver didn't get good volume. I think Evan Ingram will get good volume. I think that he can average around 9 1/2 to 10 PPR points per game. That's not bad. For a tight end, I don't think he's going to do anything like he did. Remember that stretch in 2023 when Jacksonville had nobody so they just gave him 11 targets per game and he was awesome. He's not going to do that. But he's a late round pick at tight end. He's someone that I would consider as a starter in Week one.

[Adam Azer]

I do like him better than the rookies. I like him better than Kraft, for example. I do think it's a good opportunity for him. And for what it's worth, his year ones with a new team have been good. Giants his rookie season, Jacksonville, his year one there. I do think this, this move was a smart one for Denver because he still can get you to 10, 11 PPR points per game, which is kind of what he did in Jacksonville. So I'm relatively confident in based on his value. So I do like the situation for bring them. All right, Dave, with the Detroit regression, are you still confident this is from Dune 33322. Are you still confident in Amara St. Brown and Jameer Gibbs in round one?

[Heath Cummings]

Yes, because I think that those are the two easiest guys to spam the ball to in that offense. We've seen it now with St. Brown under multiple coordinators. I'll add just getting a bevy of targets and doing a lot of good things with them and they're easier targets. They're not as complex as someone like Jameson, for example, who's going to be partially a downfield target or he works the intermediate area on a double move. I think it's just going to be easier for golf to get the ball out of his hands quicker when it comes to St. Brown, when it comes to Gibbs. And Laporta kind of fits in that range too, which is why when you said Laporta in round six, somebody that you like to get. I agree wholeheartedly. That's good value.

[Adam Azer]

I think the one thing about St. Brown, I said this with the magazine story I wrote, which was trying to figure out who's the number one receiver last year because we had a lot of questions whether it was CD Lamb or Tyree Kill or Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase. I wrote about seven guys and talked to a bunch of different people about them. St. Brown just felt like the safest of the group just because you kind of knew what you're getting. No quarterback issues. There's a little bit again, some, some questions with the coordinator change and maybe the offensive line concerns you with Detroit, but he just feels like. Feels just safe and so you know, when you get to the neighbors, Brian Thomas, Nico Collins, you know, range the, the five through or four through, you know, Puka Nakua range four through 10. He just again feels safe. Like you kind of just know what you're getting. Like the upside may not be there even though he's been, you know, top five may not be a wide receiver one touchdowns are certainly gonna, you know, I think sway where he finishes but just feel safe at the back end of the first round. All right, last question and it's for Heath specifically from the fantasy football show. And we appreciate his comment at the end of the question which is hit that like button people. So hopefully you did Heath. True or true? Travis Hunter is a wide receiver one.

[Dave Richard]

Smitty loves Travis Hunter. I Travis Hunter I don't believe will be a wide receiver one in 2025, but Travis Hunter is a number wide receiver one in my dynasty rankings and I anticipate multiple wide receiver one seasons from Travis Hunter in the future.

[Adam Azer]

So you, you did make your pick in the Baked Burger. You traded, you had two picks in the first round pick. 9 overall and 10 overall. 9 was the trade for DeAndre Swift. 10th you took.

[Dave Richard]

I took Matthew Golden.

[Adam Azer]

I actually had traded 10. You kept nine.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I had three picks in the first round. I took Travy on Henderson.

[Adam Azer]

All right.

[Dave Richard]

With the fifth pick. I took Matthew golden with the ninth pick and I traded the 10th pick for the Swift package. And now I'm seeing if maybe I can get back up into the top 14 because I'd like to get one more good player.

[Adam Azer]

All right, so we'll see if the.

[Heath Cummings]

Wheeling you had your shot at the big player to try and trade back in when you're not guaranteed to get.

[Dave Richard]

Back in because I, I think I thought DeAndre Swift was basically a throw in for almost free.

[Heath Cummings]

Okay, good luck.

[Adam Azer]

Gonna be interesting to see how this goes throughout the course of the the season, the the Andre Swift conversation and how much it helped or hurt Heath Cummings in the Baked Burger Dynasty league. All right, we missed our buddy Adam Major. He'll be back next week. We'll be back next week with four shows as well. Check out FFT Dynasty tomorrow, 11:30am Eastern where we'll be doing. What's the version?

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[Adam Azer]

Super Flex Tight end premium Startup Dynasty draft. So check that out. We'll be drafting with Heath as well. Dave stole my spot in the first round. So he's got the third pick. I got the fourth pick. Keith, what pick did you take?

[Dave Richard]

I took the 12th. I always draft on one of the ends when I'm hosting a show, so it's not as difficult, and I usually take one. I thought I'd take 12 in this one.

[Adam Azer]

All right, so you got 12, I have four, Dave has three, and we'll have some fun with that draft tomorrow. Thanks everybody for listening and watching and watching. We're gonna go do FFT Express right now with talking about some average draft position, so check that out. Also for Dave, Richard Heathcomings on Jamie Eisberg. Thank philosophicalist.

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