FFT Dynasty - Dynasty Fantasy Football Superflex Startup Mock Draft

Summary

Fantasy Football Today: Dynasty Fantasy Football Superflex Startup Mock Draft – Detailed Summary

Release Date: May 2, 2025

---

Introduction

In this episode of Fantasy Football Today, hosted by Heath Cummings and featuring recurring guest Adam Pfeiffer, the focus centers on a Dynasty Fantasy Football Superflex Startup Mock Draft. The discussion delves into drafting strategies, player rankings, and positional considerations essential for dominating a Superflex league. The conversation is rich with expert insights, strategic debates, and real-time mock draft decisions, providing listeners with valuable guidance for their own drafts.

---

Mock Draft Kickoff: Prioritizing Quarterbacks

The mock draft begins with a strong emphasis on quarterbacks, reflecting the Superflex format's premium on the position.

Heath Cummings opens the draft by selecting Lamar Jackson with the first pick, highlighting his dual-threat capabilities:

"[00:43] Heath Cummings: Start with Lamar Jackson."

Adam Pfeiffer follows by choosing Josh Allen at the second pick, showcasing his preference for elite QBs early on:

"[01:54] Heath Cummings: Josh Allen will not be falling in this draft."

Heath humorously references a previous ranking of Allen as QB4:

"[01:41] Heath Cummings: ...a shot at me for ranking Allen as QB4 last year."

Quarterback Strategy: Lamar Jackson vs. Josh Allen

A significant portion of the early draft revolves around deciding between top-tier quarterbacks.

Adam Pfeiffer expresses a slight preference for Allen over Jackson:

"[02:36] Adam Pfeiffer: I just, I have Josh Allen slightly higher..."

He discusses the nuances between the two, such as Jackson's rushing yards and Allen's touchdown opportunities:

"[02:36] Adam Pfeiffer: ... Lamar is going to rush for more yards. ... Josh has been getting more touchdowns."

The hosts agree on the necessity of securing top QBs early in a Superflex format, as late as QB6.

Transition to Position Players: Running Backs and Wide Receivers

After the initial focus on quarterbacks, attention shifts to drafting non-QB positions.

Heath Cummings selects Jamar Chase as his top-ranked non-QB player:

"[04:53] Heath Cummings: I have Jamar Chase as my top ranked non QB in Dynasty."

Adam Pfeiffer concurs with the choice, reinforcing Chase's value:

"[05:12] Adam Pfeiffer: Sounds exactly right."

Analyzing Running Backs: Bijan Robinson, Ashton Genti, and Saquon Barkley

The discussion intensifies around running back selections, particularly Bijan Robinson, Ashton Genti, and Saquon Barkley.

Heath opts for Saquon Barkley in the early rounds, considering his immediate impact:

"[07:27] Adam Pfeiffer: ...if you wanted to put Barkley ahead of him, I think that's reasonable too."

Adam Pfeiffer ranks Ashton Genti slightly behind but still valuable within the top 20 picks:

"[05:43] Heath Cummings: ...proud to have him seventh or eighth amongst the non quarterbacks..."

Value Picks and Potential Steals: Patrick Mahomes and Jameer Gibbs

The mock draft highlights potential value picks, such as Patrick Mahomes and Jameer Gibbs, who fall later than expected.

Heath Cummings identifies Mahomes at the ninth pick as a standout value:

"[06:29] Adam Pfeiffer: ...I just thought he'd be... around ninth overall... that's pretty good value."

Adam praises Mahomes' MVP potential despite his late pick:

"[07:01] Adam Pfeiffer: ...I can't believe he won't do that again."

Mid-Round Strategies: Balancing Positions and Building Depth

As the draft progresses to mid-rounds, the focus shifts to adding depth and balancing positions.

Heath Cummings selects Nico Collins as a strategic pick to bolster his wide receiver roster:

"[07:43] Heath Cummings: ...I'll take Nico Collins here to end round two."

During round four, both Heath and Adam emphasize the importance of securing versatile players like George Kittle:

"[10:47] Heath Cummings: ...choosing George Kittle. ..."

Tight End Considerations: Dalton Kincaid and Kyle Pitts

The tight end position becomes a critical discussion point, especially with players like Dalton Kincaid and Kyle Pitts available in later rounds.

Heath reassesses his rankings, opting for Dalton Kincaid despite initial reservations:

"[47:00] Heath Cummings: ...I'm going to take Kincaid for the future..."

Adam Pfeiffer expresses skepticism about Kincaid’s consistent target share:

"[45:27] Adam Pfeiffer: ...Caleb Williams and the Bears last year were... I think Kincaid towards the bottom..."

Late-Round Gems and Rookie Potential

The later rounds of the draft spotlight rookies and potential breakout stars, such as RJ Harvey and Jordan Addison.

Heath remains optimistic about RJ Harvey, citing his talent and offensive opportunities:

"[17:00] Heath Cummings: ...I really think Harvey is supremely talented..."

Adam Pfeiffer discusses Harvey’s role and compares him to past wide receivers with high potential:

"[29:03] Adam Pfeiffer: ...Harvey is a way more talented prospect..."

Final Rounds: Building for the Future and Addressing Gaps

In the concluding rounds, both Heath and Adam focus on addressing remaining positional needs and selecting high-upside players.

Heath finalizes his team by securing key positions and preparing for future trades or pickups:

"[51:43] Heath Cummings: ...I have Lamar Jackson and Brock Purdy at quarterback..."

Adam Pfeiffer reflects on his team composition, acknowledging areas for improvement:

"[56:11] Adam Pfeiffer: ...I have a lot of decent value..."

Team Analysis and Strategic Insights

Both hosts analyze their drafted teams, discussing strengths and potential weaknesses. Heath highlights the importance of balancing immediate performance with future potential, while Adam underscores the significance of securing versatile players who can adapt to various offensive schemes.

Notable Quotes

• Heath Cummings on Josh Allen's Draft Position:

  "[01:41] Heath Cummings: ...a shot at me for ranking Allen as QB4 last year."

• Adam Pfeiffer on Patrick Mahomes' Value:

  "[06:29] Adam Pfeiffer: ...that's pretty good value."

• Heath Cummings on Jamar Chase's Ranking:

  "[05:12] Adam Pfeiffer: Sounds exactly right."

• Adam Pfeiffer on Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen:

  "[02:36] Adam Pfeiffer: I just, I have Josh Allen slightly higher..."

---

Conclusion

This episode of Fantasy Football Today provides a comprehensive walkthrough of a Dynasty Fantasy Football Superflex Startup Mock Draft, offering listeners nuanced strategies for quarterback prioritization, running back evaluations, and late-round value acquisitions. With expert analysis from Heath Cummings and Adam Pfeiffer, the discussion equips fantasy enthusiasts with the insights needed to build a competitive Superflex team, blending immediate impact players with future potential stars.

For those looking to enhance their own drafts, the episode serves as an invaluable resource, highlighting the delicate balance between securing top-tier quarterbacks and building depth across other positions to ensure sustained success throughout the fantasy season.

Transcript

[Heath Cummings]

Mummy's the word but we're telling everyone it's BOGO 50% off time at designer Shoe Warehouse. Just in time for Mother's day. Buy any pair of shoes, get a second qualifying pair 50% off. Treat mom or yourself to the perfect spring styles from must own brands and hurry. Unlike a mother's love, this deal won't last forever. So make mom proud and score BOGO 50% off at your DSW store or dsw.com today 24 chefs. 24 culinary showdowns. For 24 hours straight.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Which chef will.

[Heath Cummings]

Out cook outpace, outlast the competition? No chef escapes the clock. All new 24 and 24 last chef standing Sunday night at eight. See it first on Food Network stream Next day on Max Foreign. Welcome to Fantasy Football today Dynasty. I am your host Heath Cummings, joined today by my good friend and like seven time guest Adam Pfeiffer. We've got a Super Flex startup mock draft for you today. Ap. Thank you for being here.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Always a pleasure. Heath, I appreciate you having me on. This is exciting time. I'm, I'm glad we're doing this too because I'm sitting here waiting for my rookie drafts to start my Dynasty league. So this will be a fun, fun way to get the draft juices flowing.

[Heath Cummings]

And Matt is here in the chat, just here to see where QB4 Josh Allen gets taken this year. That's a shot at me for ranking Allen as QB4 last year.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Might be more of a shot at me too.

[Heath Cummings]

I do think that Josh Allen may have finished QB4 last year, but you can see the Buffalo Bill shirt on the other side of the screen. So Josh Allen will not be falling in this draft. This is a full PPR Super Flex mock draft. I had the first pick because when I'm hosting the show, I like to have a pick on the corner. So I can not pay attention. Absolutely. All the time. Adam. I started with Lamar Jackson. The very next pick at 102 is Josh Allen. And yes, we'll have the draft board up here in just a second. So I guess first question right off the bat. Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen and Dynasty? Yes, yes, you would like both of those guys.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I think we talked about this last time I was on and I, I just, I, I have Josh Allen slightly higher and I'd still like, I can't fight anybody for taking Lamar or Josh. It's just, it's kind of that simple. There's really no other way to put it. I mean, the two best quarterbacks in fantasy, probably the two best quarterbacks in the NFL right now with Mahomes, obviously it I just, I don't know. It depends on how you because like Lamar is going to rush for more yards. But we've seen this year in and year out, especially now with Henry, like they don't use him at the goal line like the Eagles use Hertz, like the Bills use Josh Allen. And to be fair, even though Josh has been getting more touchdowns, his goal line usage did come down a little bit. So you can use those arguments to kind of split hairs, but the answer of Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen to me is simply yes, either one of.

[Heath Cummings]

Those feels really great at the start of a draft. Yes, you saw Christian McCaffrey show up on the draft board. No, that's not who Jacob Gibbs took. He got auto picked because Gibbs did not show up on time for the draft. Next time he's on the show we're going to give him a hard time about that I guess while we're waiting for him to get started and he wants me to now send him a link on X. So Adam, you're going to talk about at what point should we start seeing non quarterbacks come off the board in a super flex draft like this?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

It obviously goes based off tears or at least it should. For me it's probably right after like the Mahomes. Maybe like probably the probably right after Mahomes. I would say maybe it would have been you add like somebody like C.J. stroud if he didn't have the down season he had last year. But I would say probably like right around maybe even after like the fifth quarterback which is probably Burrow for most people. I would say that's when you can start to see Jamar Chase and Lamb and Jefferson and those guys come off the board. But probably right around the Mahomes, you know QB6 range. I would say at least I have.

[Heath Cummings]

Shared the link with Gibbs. He is in the draft room. Hopefully he's the only one who's made this mistake. Adam so we're thinking it should be Jackson, Allen, Daniels, Mahomes and Burrow in some order those five quarterbacks. And then you start talking about Jamar Chase.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Jalen Hurts too I would say.

[Heath Cummings]

So six quarterbacks for you?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I would say probably yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

And Jaden Daniels does go third to Jacob Gibbs followed by Joe Burrow. So top four quarterbacks off the board. The draft will start getting a little bit more interesting when we start working with position players in there. I have Jamar Chase as my top ranked non QB in Dynasty. Does that sound right to you Adam?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Sounds exactly right.

[Heath Cummings]

What did you think while we're waiting for some of these picks to come in of the, this, the NFL draft And how soon do you think we see Ashton Genti?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I thought the draft, it was funny because like Genti we pretty much knew was going to be in whether it was Chicago, the Raiders, whatever, a pretty, pretty good spot. I thought there was a lot of like at least for like year one, underwhelming spots. But I would say Genti probably within the top what, 20 picks of a, of a startup.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, I would say that's, that's right. He's definitely a first rounder for me in one qb. I think I have him seventh or eighth amongst the non quarterbacks and we're gonna see somewhere around 12 quarterbacks go. I would anticipate in the first two rounds of this draft. Jamie now on the clock with 20 seconds left. So we start off with Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Chris Joe Burrow, Jaden Daniels, Jalen Hurts, Jamar Chase. So we did not get Mahomes, then Justin Jefferson, then Bijan Robinson. Mahomes goes pick nine to another former guest of the show, the fantasy football mad scientist. Best value of the draft so far?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yeah, probably. I, I just for me like just given what Hertz has done lately and we still have suddenly question marks about the Chiefs offense, I felt like Hertz was the pick I should have made. But I did not anticipate Mahomes going what, ninth overall? I thought he'd be you know, maybe Chase and then Mahomes. But yeah, I think that's pretty, pretty good value. And if like I picked Mahomes to win MVP this time last year, like I just still think he has at least one more of those like 4840 touchdown seasons left. I struggle to believe he won't do that again.

[Heath Cummings]

We've seen it happen with, we saw it happen with both Brady and Rogers. When you are one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL for 20 years, there's going to be a two year stretch where you don't score a lot of fantasy points. Yeah, he's not to the age now where we actually think he might be declining. I thought it was interesting both Bijan and Gibbs go in the first two rounds. How would you rank Genti with those other two running backs right now? Bijon Robinson, Ashton Genti, Jameer Gibbs.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yeah, he's definitely behind them. I think it's pretty obvious that the top two running backs in dynasty are Bijan and Gibbs. But if you wanted to put Barkley, who just goes off the board right after, ahead of him. I get it, but that's more of like a two year window. Genty, what 21 years old. He is in a spot where, you know, Chip Kelly and Pete Carroll want to run the football and there is a path, at least in year one that he leads the NFL and touches right out of the gate. So I think right there is where he should be. If you wanted to go as early as it was right after those two, I don't think that's too early. If you wanted to put Barkley ahead of him, I think that's reasonable too. But this is where he should go, at least among the running backs.

[Heath Cummings]

Let's take a look at the full round one. So we have Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Jaden Daniels, Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Bijan Robinson, Patrick Mahomes and then Jameer Gibbs, CD Lamb and Malik Neighbors. I've been a little bit conflicted on Lamb after the draft. That one side of the take is the Cowboys didn't draft any other pass catchers, so he's going to just have 190, 200 targets this season. The other side I see though is like is this going to work or is this just going to be a bad offense in Dallas?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I don't think it'll be bad. I think we've seen kind of iterations of this similar offense where it's throwing the ball to CD Lamb 180 times and they're not going to be a top five to seven unit probably. But when you have a healthy DAC and I think they have enough around him, I think they could have added more. But I think CD Lamb, like I didn't have it this time. Last year I had Chase as my number one player. But if you told me Ceedee Lamb finished as the widest year one this season, I wouldn't be really surprised at all. Just honestly based off volume. Like I think if you're projecting, I know you do projections. Like if you're projecting targets, like I think it's very, you know, reasonable to have him leading the NFL and targets.

[Heath Cummings]

This year we got a A wow, Adam terrible. And I don't think that's for you, but it might be. I kind of assumed it was for Azer who took Malik Neighbors and Ashton genti at the 12 turn. How do you feel about in a Super Flex startup picking at 12th and not getting a quarterback in your first?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

It's funny because I feel like every time And I was thinking about this before the draft. Every time I'm in this one of these drafts with you, I feel like I'm where, where Azer was picking. And it's like you have to, it's tough because especially in a super flex, you have to either say, okay, I have to get quarterbacks here and risk the run on the opposite end of the, of the, the draft order or, or you say, look, I have to get my guys here because there's a chance they don't make it back. So I am not jealous. I'm actually happy to be picking where I'm at. But look, there's always a couple teams that just kind of say, you know what, I'll see what happens at the end with quarterbacks and I can get a couple guys. And that is a spot where you kind of have to do it. So, you know, with Genty, I think it's right around where he probably will go in a lot of drafts. But it's also tough too because especially if you're doing it tier base with quarterbacks, if there's a massive teardrop, then maybe you don't feel as inclined to rush and grab a quarterback and you.

[Heath Cummings]

Are on the clock. I, I apologize for making you.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

No, you're fine. I am really torn between two players here because it's a similar question. Right. I have Jalen hurts. I want this other quarterback that I'm extremely high on, but I'm also struggling to pass on Puka, but receivers loaded. So I'm going to take my quarterback here. I'm going to, I'm going to be. I think he's still on the board. He should. But yeah, I. Look, I am really high on this player and I, I don't even know if this is. I don't think it's a reach, especially in Super Flex, but I'm expecting his value to be maybe even closer to the first round. Back of the first round. I'm taking Drake Bay. Wow.

[Heath Cummings]

So I, I actually had a quarterback not at the top of my board because I do think Puka Nakua is a great value here.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yeah, it was between those two, but I just thought there's really good receivers left still.

[Heath Cummings]

And I actually thought it was a different second year quarterback that you were going to take there. The guy that got the new offensive coordinator and the new tight end and the new wide receiver. I won't say his name because there's a couple picks until I pick, but I've got a new nominee for my favorite pick of the Draft through two rounds and that is Brock Bowers.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yeah, he was the pick for me. That's why I was debating between May and Puka. I was hoping Bowers made it back to me.

[Heath Cummings]

I, I really, really think Bowers, even in this format should be a first round pick and I think it's possible that he should be a first round pick and redraft and he may just have one of those Travis Kelsey seasons where he outscores everybody else by three fantasy points.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Like we're talking about Bowers as like the wide receiver four and the obvious tight end one type seasons.

[Heath Cummings]

Yes. Like he's in the consideration for a first round pick even if he was a wide receiver. Justin Herbert goes off the board. So another quarterback and then there's Caleb Williams, Matt Donnelly, I'm not a big fan of yours right now. So Justin Herbert.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I'm actually glad I took May too because it feels like it would have gone like those three quarterbacks and then I wouldn't have gotten one of those guys. So. And I just thought receiver, I can get somebody on the turn here.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah. And I, I think since I already have a quarterback I'm gonna go running back wide receiver here. There's a couple of quarterbacks I like but I don't know that they're real difference makers and I've got my QB one and so I am going to take the guy who's actually my RB4. Never mind. Somebody already took HN so I guess I'll take.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yeah, HN went early second it looked like.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, right in that Barkley. We had a little run of running backs. I'll take Nico Collins here to end round two and then I. This is not going to be a popular pick in the chat because for some reason it seems like everybody else is lower on him than I am. But I still believe in the San Francisco system. I think he's about ready to get $50 million for four or five years. Be a 200 million dollar man. I will take Brock Purdy to start round three and that's a good time for us to now recap round two, especially for those of you listening who don't have the draft board in front of you. So azer started round two off with Ashton Genty followed by Saquon Barkley, CJ Stroud, Devon Achan, Amunra, Saint Brown, Brian Thomas Jr. Brock Bowers, Drake May, Puka Nakua, Justin Herbert, Caleb Williams and Nico Collins. So it's genti, Barkley, Stroud, HN St Brown, Thomas Bowers, May and Nakua, Herbert, Williams and Nico. And I'll just be honest with you, I'm not just picking on Gibbs because he was late to the draft. I'm pretty concerned about Justin Herbert ever really matching that upside he showed us early in his career. Especially as long as Harbaugh is there. I think he's just a high end QB2 and I'm not sure I want to take that guy that early.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yeah, I mean I took Drake May over him and to be honest with you it wouldn't even like I actually didn't wasn't even aware fully if he was on the board still but it wouldn't have mattered. I just think it depends on what part of the season you look at the Chargers offense because to start the season when they had J.K. dobbins healthy and running well, Herbert wasn't throwing a lot and then you know Dobbins is out for a little bit and they uptick the passing rate and Herbert had some weeks but the red zone offense is really bad. He wasn't throwing the ball out in the red zone. I just think his ceiling is kind of capped in this offense. Doesn't mean he's not a good player. Still I would just like I look at Drake May. The reason I like Drake May, I tweeted about it yesterday but week six through I think was 17. He didn't play week 18 I believe. Yeah, he didn't play week 18. So week six through 17 he was the QB15 of fantasy. He was top five in both scramble rate and rushing yards per game among quarterbacks. And at FTN Fantasy we have the stats hub. There's a stat called highlight throws which are throws at require, you know, great accuracy, throw power, all those intangibles.

[Heath Cummings]

Right.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

He was tied with Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes during that stretch and highlight throw. So you see the Skill set Josh McDaniel's already talked about. They want to use him in the run game even more with more design stuff. He only had four design runs during that stretch total. Then you give him everything they added in the draft. You give him Stefan Diggs, Kyle Williams. Trayvon Henderson is not only elite in pass protection but in the passing game as well. I think Drake May and again I took him over Caleb Williams too. Maybe, maybe I'm, maybe I shouldn't be as high on a fellow AFC's quarterback. But I think Drake May is set for a top 12 season and I think he could be drafted at the end of the first round and super flex startups this time next year.

[Heath Cummings]

Gibbs really just wants us to talk about his team the entire draft, it seems like, because Hunter with pick 27, he takes Travis Hunter. I'm pretty high on Travis Hunter, so, like, I've got him 33rd.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I just traded. I just made a trade in my Dynasty league to get up to the 103 to secure Travis Hunter, which I already have the 101. So I'm. I'm. This is why I'm excited for my rookie draft to start. So I can just add Genty and whether it's Hampton or Hunter to my team.

[Heath Cummings]

You think there's a realistic chance that Hunter is just like a consensus top six wide receiver in Dynasty at some point in the near future?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I do.

[Heath Cummings]

The talent's there, right?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Like, there's. There's shades of like CD Lamb after the catch and there's shades of like, I don't even know in terms of at the catch point. Like, it's insane.

[Heath Cummings]

So we've really seen a big run early in round three on wide receivers and we just are on quarterbacks and we just finished up round three. So let's talk about that because I think it's really. This is an interesting inflection point to where you have like elite difference makers available at other positions and you have a lot of maybe older QB2s or younger guys that haven't really shown it yet. But I took Purdy to start the round then. Drake, London, Travis Hunter, Derek Henry, Henry Lad McConkey, A.J. brown, Bo Nix, Trevor Lawrence, Kyron Williams, Jordan Love, Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff for Azer to end round three. So Purdy, London, Hunter, Henry, McConkey Brown, Knicks, Lawrence Williams, Love, Mayfield, Golf. Do you like the position players better in round three, or do you think everybody's right to just keep hammering quarterback?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I do like to position players, but at the end of the day, like, you have to go get quarterbacks. As we see JJ McCarthy go, who I think I just keep forgetting about for some reason, there's a chance that could be really a really good value where he went. But I do like the position players for the most part. But it's also easier for me to say that because I already have two quarterbacks, I guess.

[Heath Cummings]

Well, yeah, you're definitely like. And that's kind of where most people ended up is they've already got quarterbacks. We saw Dave and Azer pass on quarterback in round one and round two. And here now to start round four, Azer takes Cam Ward a few picks later. You just said it. Dave takes JJ McCarthy there is an opportunity cost to having those elite position players in round one or round two. And the opportunity cost is you might need to start cam Ward or J.J. mcCarthy next year. Let's take our first break and then we'll recap round four.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

This episode is brought to you by State Farm. You might say all kinds of stuff when things go wrong, but these are the words you really need to remember. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. They've got options to fit your unique insurance needs, meaning you can talk to your agent to choose the coverage you need. Have coverage options to protect the things you value most, file a claim right on the State Farm mobile app, and even reach a real person when you need to talk to someone. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

[Heath Cummings]

Pro baller Lonzo Ball for Buzzballs. Ready to go. Cocktails take 12.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Buzzballs just dropped their biggest blue balls.

[Heath Cummings]

Script says Biggie's blue balls. Lonzo, take 13.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Blue balls just dropped their biggest buzz balls.

[Heath Cummings]

Let's try a vocal exercise.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Buzz Balls. Biggies. Blue balls. Buzz Balls. Biggies. Blue balls.

[Heath Cummings]

Big balls just dropped.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Get blue balls this season with Buzz Ball.

[Heath Cummings]

Please.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

You're responsible.

[Heath Cummings]

Buzz Ball is available in spirit, wine & Malt, 15% Alco Bavo and Buzzballs LLC. Carrollton, Texas we are back and we're still in round four. I mentioned Azer taking Cam Ward. I want to kind of highlight whenever we have the rookies go off the board here. Adam, where are you on Ward specifically in Superflex? Because I think it's easier to just kind of wait and see with him in a one quarterback league. But you're gonna have to make a decision this year in Superflex.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yeah, it's tough because I like parts of that offense. Like I do think in some capacity with Callahan still there, they will try to get him at least a little bit going with the run game. For me though, it comes down to like he's obviously a better prospect than Will Levis and Levis just couldn't stop turning the ball over. He does have some of those instances where he kind of doesn't take what's there and just kind of forces things. So that's going to be something he has to work on. But can we get somebody other than Calvin Ridley? Because I was looking at the depth chart and it's like you have 32 year old Tyler Lockett, then you have Traylon Burks and they added a couple rookies as well. I just, I just don't know what the ceiling is in this offense. I Think he's going to be fine in Super Flex obviously as a QB2, but I don't know. I just don't see any quarterbacks in this draft class really. Maybe Jackson Dart at some point just because he runs a lot and he has a true bona fide number one receiver. But I just think the ceiling's kind of capped right now with, with the way that offense looks.

[Heath Cummings]

I did want to briefly touch on one of the picks and just kind of ask you your opinion because we did see Derek Henry go in round three. We had some comments in the chat. What in the world is Derek Henry doing? And round three of a Dynasty draft. People would have said that same thing two years ago though, right? So how do you feel about Derek Henry there?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I mean it's. It's definitely early for me, but I feel like at some point we should just stop talking about Derek Henry because he's just going to Keep running for 2,000 yards and 15 touchdowns. But yeah, I mean him ahead of Amarian Hampton, James Cook, Bucky Irving is definitely surprising. I. That that range that just went to like I wanted so many players. I. I struggle to decide but I ended up going Garrett Wilson Just because 180 target sounds good to me.

[Heath Cummings]

I think I have to make an update in my running back rankings at the Dynasty position as forced by this four or five turn breeze. Hall was a pretty easy pick for me at pick 48. Love getting him at the 45 turn. There's still a little bit of concern, but I also still think there's top five upside there. I had two running backs right at the top of my rankings and they were Chase Brown and Travion Henderson. And I do have Brown slightly higher right now. And I had this realization as happens when we're drafting and that's kind of what helps us form our rankings this time of year is I'd rather have Trevion Henderson especially in full ppr. So I'm going to take him. Where do you land on Chase Brown versus Trevion Henderson?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Well, Henderson was in my queue so.

[Heath Cummings]

Good.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

That answers that question. Hopefully Chase Brown makes it back to me. But yeah, I mean Chase Brown was somebody I wrote about like two weeks ago saying just, just expect the. The letdown when they draft the running back with decent draft capital and they didn't. They drafted Taj Brooks like in the seventh round. I don't think Chase Brown's getting the 24 touches per game he got once Zach Moss went down. But clearly they feel pretty comfortable with Chase Brown. Getting, you know, 16 to 18 touches and he's probably going to catch four or five passes a game. So I don't, I do think like if we were doing a There goes Chase Brown. I can't be happy if you're looking at. I do think Chase Brown is an opportunity to sell high because most people probably weren't trading for him leading up to the draft because they were expected to draft a running back. But now I think you can say, look, they didn't draft anybody of consequence. Chase Brown's going to get 20 touches per game. I do think at least trying to sell him I makes some sense.

[Heath Cummings]

100% agree with that. This is an excellent time. I hope that you weren't selling him before the draft because you were scared someone was going they were going to take a quarterback because then you didn't get the full value. But you can definitely get the full value right now. We're a little bit behind on our recaps here, so let's take a look at round four and see what stands out. Cam Ward went first, followed by Kyler Murray, Marvin Harrison Jr. Trey McBride three straight Cardinals, J.J. mcCarthy, Jackson Smith and Jigba. Bucky Irving, Garrett Wilson, James Cook, Omari and Hampton, Jonathan Taylor and Breeze hall to round out round four. So as Ward, Murray, Harrison, McBride, McCarthy and Jigba Smith and Jigba, Irving, Wilson, Cook, Hampton, Taylor and Hull. A lot of running backs in that round. We got another rookie, another rookie here in Omari and Hampton. He went just a couple picks before me, before I took Trevion Henderson. I actually not many people do. So this is Heath being an outlier and you can choose to follow whichever direction you'd like to. But I actually, in full ppr, prefer Henderson to Hampton. What do you think this split looks like in Year one between Hampton and Naji?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I think it starts with like trying to find a good comparison. I think it's going to start like similarly close to what Pittsburgh was last year. But then I think by like week six, Week seven, it's just pretty obvious that Hampton has way more juice and I think it could be closer to like 70, 30 in the second half. But also it might not matter because the Chargers are going to run the ball enough to where they're both going to get enough work to be good. I do think it starts at least in a like 5149 type split. But then midway through the season we see this with rookies all the time, especially running backs. In the second half they just start to take over. So I think by like week eight, week nine, we see Hampton get like 65 to 70% of the work is my guess.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah. My problem is, and I've talked about this a little bit already, but we've been wanting Naji Harris to come off the field more for like four years. And then the Chargers made the choice to go add him. He just, he seems like the type of player that coaches want on the field.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yeah, I mean, he's not going to miss games, we know that. And he's not going to for the most part. Like, he's not going to give. Give you like the 30 yard runs or the explosive plays, but he's also not going to like, like with Kenneth Walker, like you, you at least tolerate the -1 -2 0 yard runs because all of a sudden he's down the field for 50 yards. Harris isn't going to do the 50 yards, but he's not going to do the minus one minus twos. He's going to give you three yards, three yards, and then enough to do enough and not make mistakes, which coaches do value quite a bit. I just think at some point they're going to see Martin Hampton and say, this guy needs to be on the field more.

[Heath Cummings]

I may have a new favorite pick as we see Dak Prescott pick 57. Now, we talked about this earlier with the lack of weapons in Dallas, but we've seen Dak produce top six seasons basically with one wide receiver. Seems like a lot of guys went before Deck that are probably not going to score as many fantasy points the next three years as Deck.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yeah, I know this is Dynasty. I just did my redraft rankings yesterday. I have dak as my QB7. I'm probably going to be higher on him the most. I just. Every time we've seen him healthy for the last couple of years, he's been towards the top of the NFL. I think he could be towards the top of the NFL in passing attempts as well. Yeah, that's. That's an awesome pick with that there. I just think Dak has always kind of been super undervalued in Dynasty. To start with anyway.

[Heath Cummings]

And we finished up round five. I took Trevion Henderson to start the round, followed by Chase Brown and ted row and McMillan. He does not like Ted, apparently. Adam tells me TMac. Okay. Rashi Rice, Bryce Young Tua, Xavier Worthy, Dak Prescott, T. Higgins, Tyree Kill and RJ Harvey. So Henderson, Brown, McMillan, Pennx, Rice, Young Tua, Worthy. My screen moved. Prescott, Dak Prescott, T. Higgins, Tyreek Hill and RJ Harvey. Harvey, yet another rookie taken in the first five rounds of this Super Flex startup draft. I feel like I've got him at pick 201 in Super Flex rookie drafts. Adam. And that seems to be too low to actually draft Harvey if I want to. The the rookie drafts I've been in so far, he goes in round one pretty much every time, no matter the format. And that's because he was a round two pick. Sean Payton, I think most people would say overpaid on him based on the draft boards, but people, despite what's happened with the running backs the last two years in Denver, still have this Sean Payton running back fetish is probably the wrong word. But I feel like we had this same thing with Andy Reid for a while. Like he came to Kansas City and Kareem Hunt had that great rookie year and we had this extensive history of Andy Reid's running backs. If you can get an Andy Reid running back. And now the last few years that's not really been true. What direction do you think that's going with Peyton? Does Harvey kind of rekindle our love for Sean Payton running backs or is he just going to be a mess from now on?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I think it lies somewhere in between. I was looking at some of the data at FTN specifically on Javonte Williams. I'm gonna make my selection real fast. Okay. Walker went. I'm gonna take George Kittle here. I know he's old, but he's got the contract. He is. I think he could, I think he's live to be right up there with Bowers and McBride. So I'm gonna take Kittle. But with Harvey, like I was looking at some of the data with Javonte Williams and last year he was 4.1 targets per game. Six among running backs, 13% target share, six among running backs, 67% of the third downs and 62% of the two minute drill snaps. That was eighth and Bo Nicks had the 11th highest checkdown rate in the NFL. So this is, and this is tough for me because I was really heavy on the Jaleel McLaughlin sleeper train this time last season. But Harvey's obviously a way more talented prospect. I think McLaughlin was like undrafted, right? Second round draft capital. They were real like there it wasn't just them too. Like I think Jacksonville really wanted Harvey. So the NFL clearly valued RJ Harvey pretty highly and he doesn't have to get like he can lose some short yardage work to Audrey estimate still be awesome in this offense. Like Javonte Williams was Super inefficient, but he got super enticing fantasy volume as a pass catcher. And Harvey's probably going to be the favorite to get the early down work as well. So yeah, I think I'm trying not to get too excited because we've also seen Sean Payton with some like incredibly talented pass catching running backs over the years. Harvey's not, you know, Darren Sprouls, Reggie Bush, those types of players. But the draft capital, capital how excited he was to get him. I think they have really exciting plans for him and again they didn't really. They still haven't added Buddy at receiver of really consequence either. They added Ingram at tight end but it's really Sutton whatever they get from Marvin Mims and you know, Devon Vale. But there's an opportunity for Harvey to catch 50 plus passes.

[Heath Cummings]

So I come here to the end of round six with two quarterbacks, Lamar Jackson and Brock Purdy, two running backs, Breeze hall and Treviana Henderson, and Nico Collins is my only wide receiver. Thankfully, other than a couple of upside quarterbacks, Jordan Addison is my highest ranked player. So he was a pretty easy pick then I've come to a conundrum and I'm gonna, I'm gonna have you kind of analyze your thoughts on this selection because I've got Roma, Dunze, Zay Flowers, Matthew Golden, Jameson Williams are my top wide receivers available. They're all ahead of any running backs or tight ends. I'm gonna stick with my rankings this time and not make a change in the rankings based on the pick. I'm going to take Roma Dunes, but I have gotten over like since the draft a little bit more concerned about what the Luther Burden pick means for either Odunze or DJ Moore. How would you rank those three in Dynasty and how do you think that it settles out next year?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yeah, I haven't really moved off Roma Dunes A with the Loveland and Burden selections. I just think he is and maybe it's because I was so high on him as a prospect to start with so. But like he had like 60 of his air yards were uncatchable last year. He was used mostly down the field. I think Ben Johnson is going to to get him more creative touches. Caleb Williams and the Bears last year were 21st in drop backs that use motion. That's going to change. I do think he's going to like what? Who's to say Luther Burden, despite him being immensely talented at least in year one, isn't used like in a Cleave Raymond type role Right then DJ Moore And Roman Dunes are getting all the targets. I just think he's still an awesome player. Caleb Johnson just went. I am not happy, not happy with.

[Heath Cummings]

The Caleb Johnson pick while. While Adam tries to figure out what he wants to do.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Also, it is very difficult drafting and doing the podcast because when I took Kittle, I assumed Sam Laporta was gone. So that's a, that's a terrible pick by me. Sam Laporta was still on the board, so.

[Heath Cummings]

Well, you know, you're, you're. I think you just switched to win now mode and you think Kittle's gonna be better than Loveland this year. You'll be good to go. So round six. Azer started it off with Quinshawn Judkins. Loved that pick. Then we had Christian McCaffrey, Devonte Smith, Jerry Judy. Love that pick. Josh Jacobs, Jackson Dart. I want to come back to that one from Jamie. Ken Walker, George Kittle. Mike didn't want you to feel bad about taking an old guy in Kittle, so he took Mike Evans, Colston, Loveland, Sam Laporta, and then I finished the round out with Jordan Addison. So a couple of rookies here, Judkins and Dart. I'm pretty excited and loved ones, the three of them. I'm pretty excited about Judkins. I think he's going to be the lead back in Cleveland probably for the next four or five years. I am less excited about Dart. I think like the, the appeal of quarterbacks and super flex is one of two things. You've got a huge ceiling and so we don't worry as much about your floor and that's kind of where we are with a Richardson or a Fields or maybe you've got a great floor because you're Cam Warden, you're drafted first overall. So we know you get to start the next three seasons. But we don't know about the ceiling. With Dart, I'm concerned about the ceiling and the floor.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I just don't. It's tough because like that front office and coaching staff, they need to win or at least show some promise or they're probably getting fired.

[Heath Cummings]

Right.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

And with that mindset, does that push them to saying, okay, let's just take the decent floor we could get with Russell Wilson, like at least being in games or by week four, you know, the fans are going to be chanting for Jackson Dart and could that lead to more volatility? We know Jameis is going to give you volatility and, you know, some really splash weeks. They're in a tough spot, at least for what they want to do from a front office and an organizational standpoint. But in terms of Jackson Dart, the prospect, like, I do think if he starts relatively early, not that it's saying much, but he could easily be the best rookie quarterback in fantasy. Unless, I do think, unless Jalen Millero gets any time because what he could do with his legs. But Jackson Dart, he's kind of got a lot of that, you know, high upside type of play where he throws the ball on the field, he'll run a lot, sometimes doesn't go out of bounds. But it's tough with that, with that Giants team from where they are right now because these guys need to save their jobs and to do that, they need to win games. But also you trade it up in the first round to take Jackson Dart, they're going to want him to play sooner rather than later, especially if this team is, you know, three, four games under.500.

[Heath Cummings]

I know at least a few of you guys that are in the draft are also listening to us talk about the draft right now, and I know that because you snipe us when we talk about players. But I just want to say thank you because this has been a remarkably smooth start to this draft. We're 33 minutes into the podcast. We are now seven rounds through the draft. Let me read this list of names and we'll take our second break and then we'll break it down. Round seven. I started with Roma Dunze. Chris Olave went right after him. Then Caleb Johnson. You heard Adam Lament that pick. Travis kelce, Chuba Hubbard, DJ Moore, Terry McLaren, Tyler Warren, Devonte Adams, Zay Flowers, Alvin Camara and Jameson Williams. That's Odun Olave and Johnson, Kelsey hubard and more. McLaren, Warren and Adams, Flowers, Chimera and Williams. Tyler Warren goes pick 80. What? Probably around round and a half after Colston Loveland. Do you have a strong take on Loveland vs. Warren and how much you see Warren's landing spot as a negative?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I have Loveland over Warren. I. It's tough when you have like a player like Warren who is the better blocking prospect, but also like, would you be surprised if they gave him a couple carries here and there because he did that in college. But I just think the landing spot's better. We definitely feel better about the Bears offense. Draft capital was close, but I don't. I think it was live that Loveland would have went earlier than Warren. But I think most people, if you, if you ask 10 people, I would say probably seven, six had Loveland or Warren is a better prospect. So I have Loveland ahead. I do think Warren just in terms of like what he can do with creative touches if they give him those could be really good. But yeah, I mean you feel better about the trajectory of the Bears passing attack for sure.

[Heath Cummings]

And we had Azer in the chat. Thank you Adam. That was really, really appreciate that. We are coming up to Adam's pick in round eight. While he is on the clock I'm gonna take a look at his team. I have really no idea who's on your that's how I barely, I barely do too. You barely do also. So you've got Jalen Hurts just one running back in Chuba Hubbard. We've got a couple of wide receivers, four of them. Garrett Wilson, Lad McConkey, Jalen, Waddle, Rushy Rice. You gotta like that you just took Waddle. Kittle is your tight end. Drake May is your QB2. How do you feel about the first eight rounds of this draft?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yeah, I don't love having only Chuba at running back but from the tiers and everything like I just, I kept getting sniped on a lot of the running backs I wanted so I didn't feel like you know almost kind of saying you know what, whatever, I'll just settle and take, you know, a 31 year old running back. I I just didn't think the value was there and I'm not even the highest on Jail Waddle. I think a lot of his usage is really concerning with how they all the scheme stuff goes to Johnny Smith, Devon Hn and of course Tyree Kill. But middle of the eight towards the end of the eighth round in the startup I I kind of couldn't really pass that up.

[Heath Cummings]

I think there's, there's a like some a lot of hidden upside there with Waddle as well. Obviously there's all the off the field.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Dude, I've been writing about this for for what feel they all the scheme stuff. Like if you look at the motion like if we have a lot of stats where you can look at the targets a receiver has when they were used in motion at the snap it's Tyree kill with like 30 of them and then Waddle has like five a year where he actually gets a target where he's the guy in motion right at the snap. They don't ever use him in that role and he's relying on the post routes and deep stuff which when they do it to it a jail watt on post routes is one of the better connections in the NFL. But we know last year they were checking down everything because the offensive line was bad and that's why you saw HN and Johnny Smith get so much work. So frustrating. I actually was surprised he was there though, so I thought it was decent value.

[Heath Cummings]

I just double tapped rookie wide receivers at the 89 turn with Matthew golden and Luther Burden takes away a little bit of my anxiety about what if Luther Burden just makes Roma Dunze go away. Do you have a strong preference between those two? I see them go anywhere from picks 7 or 8 in rookie drafts to sometimes falling outside of the top 14 or 15.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I prefer burden just because I think he's the much better player. Landing spot, you probably, I don't know what landing spot do you prefer because you like both offenses. You like the path. Probably for targets more for Trey Harris, but man, Burden, like I still can't get what would have been his 20, 23 season. I can't get that out of my head. Like, I just think if situations were better last year, he would have been a first round pick.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, I, I thought at first, oh no, he fell out of the first round. Oh no. They've got DJ Moore and Roma Dunes and then you have that light bulb that goes on that says dummy. You think this guy is supremely talented and has ways to win that are as good as anybody in the NFL when you're using them the right way. And he just got drafted by the offensive coordinator that we trust more than anyone to use him the right way. Why would you not want to draft that guy? I think I forgot to take the second break. Let's go ahead and take that second break and then we'll break down round eight.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Hey there travelers.

[Heath Cummings]

Kaley Cuoco here.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Sorry to interrupt your music, great artist.

[Heath Cummings]

BT dubs, but wouldn't you rather be there to hear it live?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

With Priceline, you can get out of your dreams and into your dream concert.

[Heath Cummings]

They've got millions of travel deals to.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Get you to that. That's festival gig, rave sound bath or sonic experience you've been dreaming of.

[Heath Cummings]

Download the Priceline app today and you.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Can save up to 60% off hotels and up to 50% off flights. So don't just dream about that trip. Book it with Priceline. Go to your happy price. Priceline.

[Heath Cummings]

This episode is brought to you by Chevy Silverado.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

When it's time for you to ditch.

[Heath Cummings]

The blacktop and head off road, do it in a truck that says no to nothing. The Chevy Silverado Trail boss get the rugged capability of its Z71 suspension and 2 inch factory lift plus impressive torque and towing capacity thanks to an available Duramax 3 liter turbo diesel engine where other trucks call it quits. You'll just be getting started. Visit chevy.com to learn more. We are looking at round eight which Adam Azer kicked off with Ricky Pearsall, Followed by Dicky DK Metcalf, Joe Mixon, Cortland Sutton, Emeka Egbuca, Tony Pollard, DeAndre Swift, Jalen Waddle, David Montgomery, Cam Scatterboo, George Pickens and Matthew Golden. That's Pierce all Metcalf, Mixon, Sutton, Igbuka Pollard, Swift, Waddle, Montgomery, Scatterboo, Pickens and Golden. So we've got a couple of rookies that go in this round. Dave takes Ibuka 89th overall. I thought he was one of the most pro ready wide receivers in this class. And then he goes to the absolute worst place to make an immediate impact with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin already on the team. And then scatter Boo goes 94th. I take golden 96th. How do you handle a player like a Booker if you believe in him but he may not have the opportunity in year one?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yeah that was, that was one of the more I want to say perplexing. I thought it was a solid draft pick but like frustrating moves for fantasy because I was expecting Egbuka to go somewhere he could be the wide receiver two at least very easily. There's obviously some factors there like maybe this is Mike Evans last season, Chris Godwin. How healthy will he be right out of the gate? I think it's going to be really good but like if you're a dynasty team that's not contending you don't worry about taking a mecha Igbuka in the middle of the first round. You know seven eighth pick of your rookie draft. But it is a little head scratching. I thought we could have got him maybe to like a team. I don't know trying to think of teams that were in that range but I I just thought there could have been better landing spots but I I don't think it should deter you from taking him.

[Heath Cummings]

Just gotta in round nine we see both Anthony Richardson and Justin Fields. These quarterbacks probably more than any others I prefer relative to their peers in one QB versus Super flex because one QB all I talk about this all the time. All that matters is upside super flex. You need two starters every week. That's why they fall to the QB3 range. Do you have hope that either one of these guys is going to reach their true potential or are they Just placeholders for their current teams until they can find a real quarterback. And we'll take the fantasy points as long as we can get it.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

It's probably for, for Richardson, like this is the year, right? Like if, if it doesn't happen this year, the Colts are taking a quarterback relatively early next year. Fields, I think can play well enough to where, like the jets can be good enough to where maybe they aren't in a position to take one of those quarterbacks in a draft I like. I definitely prefer Fields. We know what he does when he can play close to a full season. He's going to be right up there, QB10ish, I think. And I think what they're going to be able to do with him obviously running the football. But like Wilson, Mason, Taylor, I think it's enough and I think there's just way less of a chance he gets benched midseason.

[Heath Cummings]

You know, I was just looking at the and you're getting ready to pick, so maybe I should wait just a second to say this, but you've already taken one, so it doesn't matter. I was really thinking, man, that the tight ends have really kind of disappeared from the draft board. And then I scroll down and my top ranked tight end left is Dalton Kincaid. If I would have told you a year ago that Dalton Kincaid is going to be available in the 10th round of a Dynasty startup draft, even if it was Super Flex, I think you would have said that I was insane. You are our favorite Bills analyst that comes on to FFT Dynasty. And that's not just because I make you look at the chief stuff for an hour. But how, how concerned are you that it's just over for contain concate or are you still hopeful?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I am much closer to believing it's over than I ever thought I would. And he apparently was playing with injury last year, but. And this is like this time last year, I was all in on Dalton Kincaid, but they spread the ball way more than anybody thought. They have this everybody eats approach on offense and that means, you know, Kincaid some weeks will have seven targets, some weeks will have two. And I just think from watching the Bills as closely as I do, there's a trust factor that Josh Allen has with receivers and I would rank Kincaid towards the bottom, I think. I think obviously Shakir is number one. I think Dawson Knox is up there ahead of Kincaid, Ty Johnson's up up, the running backs are all up there ahead of Kincaid, I think. And we'll see what happens to Josh Palmer. Then obviously Keon Coleman in year two.

[Heath Cummings]

I'm.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I'm pretty close to being out. I just think he, I just think he might just be a dude. And like, that's fine for an offense that has the, the weapons and that they do, but not when they trade it up in the first round to take him.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, it's.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

And I hope I'm wrong. I really do.

[Heath Cummings]

It's definitely been a strange journey because the, the target per route stuff looks pretty good. It's just he's not on the field all the time. I am.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

It was so weird too, because remember the Week 1 game against the Cardinals where he almost had a goose egg? What? They had bracket coverage on him every, every, almost every play. Like he was getting doubled consistently. I was like, oh, this. Maybe teams are realizing Kincaid's gonna be really good. And then it just didn't matter. Like, I was just such a weird season from him.

[Heath Cummings]

I. You know, every draft that I host, there comes a point where I kind of lose the script in terms of who's taken, who's available, what my team needs. That happened here. I actually had to reset my own timer because I couldn't make a pick. And I'm going to double tap the tight end position now. I'm actually going to take Kincaid for the future and I'm going to take Dave and Ajoku for the now. So I feel like I've got a starting tight end for at least one year. Maybe Harold Fannin's job next year. Joku is a free agent, but I'll take Kincaid as well and hope for some development there. Even with some concern about Kincaid, pick up 11.1. The 121st pick in a startup draft's a pretty good place for him, right? Yeah.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I mean, and again, I, I could easily be wrong and he could just finally put everything together. But even if you like, you can take players at value even though if you don't. Like I took Tyrone Tracy pretty late. I don't love Tyrone Tracy, but I thought for a team that needs running back help, I think there's a chance Cam Scatter Boo takes his job. But what if it. What if it isn't that way? Like, I just. You cannot like a player, but still like the value.

[Heath Cummings]

And Matt Donnelly takes Kyle Pitts right after Najoku. You more hope for Pits or Kincaid.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I'm done with Kyle Pitts. The two tight ends I wrote most about last off season about finally breaking out were Pits and Kincaid but Pitts. It's just like I just, I'm done. I'M done.

[Heath Cummings]

I think Jacob Gibbs is currently trolling maybe I'd only taking wide receivers in this mock now it's or not wide receivers rookies in this mock now that's okay. Let's read through the round nine results. I started round nine with Luther Burden, followed by Trey Harris. Bashel Tutin went next. That was three rookies in a row. Then Jacoby Myers, James Connor, Anthony Richardson, Jack Besh, Chris Godwin, Travis etn, Justin Fields, Mark Andrews and Geno Smith. So Tootin and ETN go in the same round. Tutin goes before etn. I'm still pretty much of the belief that ETN is going to be the most valuable back on Jacksonville's team both this year and for Dynasty purposes. Are you more excited about Tootin than I am?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

A little bit. I'm not. I'm not of the belief that he's going to just because like Tank Bigsby's still there and he was pretty like in terms of like avoided tackle rate, stuff like that. Yards after contact per attempt. He was right up towards the top of the NFL. He was much better than etn, which isn't saying a ton, but I think too. And we it's not just passing etn. Like I think he still has to pass Bigsby because his disastrous rookie years behind him. He was much better last year. I'm a little bit higher on him than you, but maybe it's also I'm a little bit lower on ETN than you at the same time.

[Heath Cummings]

Right.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

But I don't think Tootin's coming in and you know, moving ETN to the, to a bench role or anything like that. But there's been trade rumors with ETN for like a year and a half now, so who knows, right?

[Heath Cummings]

We also have round 10 results in. Adam Azer started that round with Juwan Jennings and he, remember earlier in the draft, took Ricky Pearsall. I prefer Jennings this year, but I do like getting both those guys because there's a lot of uncertainty about that situation. I think one of them would be really good. Aaron Jones goes second. TJ Hawkinson, Cooper Cup, Khalil Shakir, Isaiah Pacheco, Sam Darnold, Tyrone Tracy, Tank Bigsby, Jalen Milro to Jacob Gibbs, Stefan Diggs and David Najoku. You talked about it, man. Melrose upside if he gets a chance to start. I mean he's right. He's just right there in that Fields Richardson conversation, isn't he? Except for the fact that we think those guys might get a chance to start this year.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Right. And like we saw flashes of it with Clint Kubiak last year with the Saints. Like I. That offense is going to be fantasy friendly in terms of pace motion, stuff like that. So yeah, that's. That's one of the landing spots where it's like, obviously Darnold's there, but if he gets any sort of playing time, he could be really, really fun for fantasy.

[Heath Cummings]

We are finishing up round 11 now. We're just about done with this podcast. We will finish the draft full 18 rounds. Actually, people are being mad at me when they figure that out. Then when, when we do, I'll article over on CBS Sports like I always do, giving you the full results and some of my thoughts on the draft. But let's take a look at our teams. I saw somebody in the chat hates my team, so that's fitting. Let's. Let's see why. I have Lamar Jackson and Brock Purdy at quarterback. I have Bree hall and Trevon Henderson and currently no RB3. I have Nico Collins, Jordan, Addison Roma, Dunze, Matthew golden and Luther Burden at wide receiver. David Najoku and Dalton Kincaid are my tight ends. I've got to find some running back somewhere, right, Adam?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yeah. I'm not too far behind you. I don't love my running backs, but again, like the way the draft fell, it's just. I felt like the receivers are better also. I got. I know there's. There's a lot of uncertainty with him with the injury. There's been trade rumors, but like, I thought you can. What, the 11th round?

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, I think. I think he's a really hard player to value because he's. He's past the age I'm taking on risk.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I have Rashi Rice and Brad Nyuk right now, so. But I have the. I have the pieces to fill in if I, if we're playing this league out where I can put waddle in. I have the receivers. I think so.

[Heath Cummings]

I think a lot of people may look at a super flex draft and think I'm either building to win now or I'm building to win in the future. And it's hard to figure out which one of those IUK fits.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yep, that's a great point. He is so hard to pinpoint of, like what timeline he fits in.

[Heath Cummings]

I. I'm right now expecting both Pearsall and Jennings to be the 1 and 2 in terms of total points scored this year for the 49ers. Do you think there's a chance we get to the second half of the season and IUKE'S the number one in that offense this year.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I just, I absolutely do because two years ago this guy was somebody that like we were vaulting up as like one of the 15 best receivers in the league. And then remember how bad he was last year before he got hurt, like he was dropping passes. It was so weird. Maybe, just maybe missing training camp plays a factor.

[Heath Cummings]

We are also about five picks away from me taking somebody else who was bad last year for the 49ers. Devo Samuel is still on the board. We are at pick 140 in this draft. Adam's on the clock, so I shouldn't have been talking about this already. Debo is someone I think can really help Jaden Daniels by working that underneath part of the field and then maybe doing something with the ball after he catches it. And I actually think that this situation might work out for him just as well. We've talked about how in San Francisco he's had to battle Christian McCaffrey and George Kittle and Brandon Iuk and all these guys for targets. They have Terry McLaurin there in Washington, but I don't see anybody else that can prevent Debo from being the number two target in this offense. If he's right, is he not a huge value here?

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yeah, like, I don't think they really wanted to give Zach Ertz the value of volume they did. It's just they kind of. They weren't ready to play Benson and they didn't have anybody else that was consistent. Debo, it depends on if you like people think he's washed. He had obviously the, the stuff with the pneumonia that impacted him. But last year this was a very screen heavy offense. Jane Daniels was 6 in the NFL and screen attempts per game at 4.1, again down 2024 from Debo. But in 2023, off screen passes, he was 6 in the NFL and explosive play rate at 30.8%. He was first in yards after the catch. Perception at 16 on screen passes and he was fifth in EPA per target. If we get that in this offense from Debo, that could be really, really fun. And I would imagine they probably give him not the same as San Francisco did, but a couple carries per game most likely.

[Heath Cummings]

I'm going to take a couple of backup running backs here at the 12:13 turn. It's. It's the time for that, right? A couple of guys who don't rank quite as high in redraft. Zach Charbonnet because Ken Walker's in front of him. Trey Benson because James Connor's in front of him, but I feel like either one of these guys are just an injury away or maybe a trade away from being a top 15 running back in fantasy football.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yeah, Benson is super interesting because everybody's talking about this rookie class at running back. And then last year's obviously, other than Bucky and Tracy, was disappointment, but nothing's really changed. Like, James Connor is still, you know, missing a couple games a season, and he's obviously on the older side. Trey Benson, like, he was losing work to, like, DeMarcato and stuff last season. Michael Carter got some work, but, like, nothing's really changed. Like, if, like, you could probably trade for Trey Benson relatively cheap right now, and I think there's. There's definitely upside there.

[Heath Cummings]

Before we wrap this podcast up, let's take one more look over at Adam's team as he is on the clock in round 13. He has Jalen Hurts, Drake May, and, like me, no QB3. He has James Connor and Chuba Hubbard looking like a win now. Roster with Tyrone Tracy and Jadon Blue on the bench at running back. His wide receivers are Garrett Wilson, Ladd McConkey, Jalen Waddle, Rashi Rice. Absolutely love that group. With Brandon Iuk on the bench at tight end, it's looking like George Kittle. Oh, yeah. Taije Spears that you just took there as well. You feel pretty good about this team.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

I. I feel like most of the time, I do these. These drafts live on the pod. I. I'm fine with my team. There's obviously spots where, like, I just fall asleep at the wheel, but I do think I got a lot of decent value. I. I do think if I were to go back, I would have taken laporta over Kittle. Just. I honestly thought laporta was gone, but that happens. I still think Kittle's gonna be really good. I liked some of the value I got with Garrett Wilson. Rashi Rice went pretty late, too. I know there's. There's some uncertainty here, but I think I have enough behind it to kind of make up for it. And I'm just, you know, so high on Drake May that I. I like my quarterback room quite a bit.

[Heath Cummings]

Adam, thank you so much for being here. Just tell everybody once again, I know they know because they've heard you a bunch of times, but tell everybody where they can find your work and what you've got coming up.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Yeah. [e-mail] doing a lot of. Right now, I'm doing a lot of, like, work with the NBA stuff for the playoffs. Which is really fun and of course still doing a ton of we had our NFL draft coverage where we were doing live video reactions, we were doing live blogs. It was really fun. And now we're doing a bunch of draft recap stuff, you know, with some of the veterans that are seeing their value rise and fall from the draft. Just a ton of amazing content. FTNfantasy.com and I encourage you to check out the advanced stats up. I tweet about it all the time. I mention it all the time. It's something you can just absolutely get lost in with awesome data. You want to find a player what their yards per outrun is when they're in motion, you can find that. You want to find a quarterback's, you know, advanced stats on post routes, you can find that. So fdmfantasy.com check out the advanced stats hub, all the content as well, rankings being posted as well. I've just finished my, my first run of rankings and it was, it's really fun to see which players you come out pretty high on that you didn't expect or vice versa.

[Heath Cummings]

Thank you so much for being here today, Adam. Thank you to Debo for running the draft board and making everything work. Thank you everybody who was active in the chat. It was an active chat today. We will talk to you next Tuesday.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Dominique, your fantasy baseball league with Fantasy.

[Heath Cummings]

Baseball Today part of the CBS Sports Podcast Network.

[Adam Pfeiffer]

Join Scott White, Chris Towers and me, Frank Stampfle every week day as we recap every player from every game. We'll get you the latest news, waiver wire ads and drops, trades to make prospect promotions and everything else you need to take down your league. Make sure to download and follow on.

[Heath Cummings]

Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere else podcasts are found.