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Heath Cummings
Welcome to Fantasy Football today, Dynasty. I am your host, Heath Cummings, joined by Dan the Man. He's not Dan on the can. Dan Schneier. He is Dan the Manifesto railing over the Giants most recent victory. Dan the the regular season, the championships are over for most people and this is when it's our time to shine here in the Dynasty fantasy football world.
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Dan Schneier
Yeah, it's an exciting time for Dynasty football. I've been talking to a lot of friends. They're like, when are you going back on Dynasty? Fft And I'm like, good news, it's coming soon. Because we want to talk about this coming season. We want to talk about the changes in Dynasty and there's a couple interesting questions I saw on the Rundown Heat that I'm really excited to get into today. So this is the best part about Dynasty. Like it gets, you get to carry it over through basic. What is dynasty? Essentially a 10, 11 month pro. Like, there's barely any time you're taking off in the Dynasty game.
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Heath Cummings
I, I have like the YOLO league just finished last night and by the way, I won it. Thank you, appreciate it. But I was setting my lineup this morning for week one next year, like, looking at, I was like, okay, so I've got Derrick Henry and Joe Mixon and Devonte Adams and Keenan Allen. I got some old guys, Trav Kelsey, but man, like, what young guys am I going to have for next year? I'm looking at my picks in other leagues. I don't have any picks in yolo. That's why I won the championship. But I'm looking at my picks and other leagues. I'm getting excited about the rookie draft. That Jacob Gibbs tight end premium league that he started. I have the first, sixth and seventh pick next year in the rookie draft. I'm excited about that. It's just, it's a. I'm so thankful for this format that gets to that. We just get to keep playing all year round. And we've got something special for you today. I want to do more of this in 2025. It's my, it's my resolution. We're gonna ask Dan for his Dynasty resolution here in just a moment. But it's my resolution is to like, give you guys the FFT. Dynasty listeners and those of you here watching on YouTube a little sneak peek at the Dynasty content that's coming out tomorrow. On January 1st, New Year's Day, I will have fully updated 2025 Dynasty rankings for quarterback, running back, wide receiver and tight end. We'll have updated Super Flex and 1 QB trade charts for 2025. And today we're going to unveil the top 12 at each position. I've got some questions for Dan. He will tell me. He'll. He'll tell me where I've gone wrong, hopefully. And you know, I say I'm unveiling the top 12. Maybe Dan will change my mind and it'll look a little bit different when we get to the rankings being published tomorrow. But we always Start after I talk for two and a half minutes with three questions for our guest, Dan. Looking back at 20, 24, who's the one player who really changed your mind in Dynasty?
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Dan Schneier
I think you can probably guess this one. He's. It's Bonix. I mean, how could it not be? Bo Nix was a player who has changed my mind so much, Heath, that I actually, and I didn't do this for any other player in this class because I didn't have time to or care to, but I was curious enough to do this. Go back and look at his tape from Oregon from the last season. And I went back and I looked at it and I was like, you know what? And I remember when I was evaluating him, I was like, you know, he does make some interesting throws off platform when he's forced to move. I'm like, you know, he does have interesting velocity in that intermediate level and that short area. But I'm like, I was just worried so much about a. That system has no carryover to the NFL. What's it going to be like when he faces NFL defenses and baby, the deep arm and the talent in the deep half. Now on those two questions, one, he went to the perfect scenario, right? Sean, an unbelievable head coach and somebody who has obviously designed a system that fits his skill set really well. And then B, on the deep half, he's made some throws that have been really impressive on the deep half this year. He's missed some. He's missed a lot of throws this year, too. A lot of quarterbacks missed throws and I knew that was going to be part of his game. But there's no way for me not to move him up so high from where I had him in Dynasty Heath, because one, he's made a lot of big throws. Two, he's with the perfect fit from a schematic standpoint. And three, he runs. He runs a lot more than he did at Oregon back to kind of the Auburn days. So for me it's easily Bo Nix and they're just going to build around him at this point with a lot of cap space that's going to clear up with Russ clearing up that rust contract clearing up. So that's the one for me.
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Heath Cummings
I, I love that answer. We're gonna see if he made my top 12 here in just a little bit. But, but if you're just looking at the rookies, where would he be ranked amongst the rookie quarterbacks? So you've got Jaden Daniels, you've got Caleb Williams, you've got Drake May, you've got Michael Penix and you've got J.J. mcCarthy. Where does Bo Nix fit into that group?
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Dan Schneier
This question is exactly why Dynasty is the most fun game because you have to project so much with JJ McCarthy and panics. We're getting a little glimpse of I think though I'm really impressed with Bo Nicks to the point where I would put him as my QB4. I wouldn't have him over Drake May without a doubt, obviously Jaden and then Caleb. I'm not moving past, but I would have him as QB4 ahead of JJ who I didn't have him ahead of previously and then ahead of Panic, so I already had him ahead of so.
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Heath Cummings
We'Ll give a little little glimpse as to what is to come because you've seen the top 12s and I want to know who is the breakout player for 2025 that did not make my top 12 at any of the four positions.
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Dan Schneier
This is a fun one too. To answer, I narrowed it. There's a this is a tough one. I narrowed it down to three players. Oh wow. Okay, three players and I have a wild card pick that. Okay, not going to be that. But I want to name Shadow. So the three players I narrowed it down to were Zay Flowers, Xavier Worthy and Jameson Williams. As far as picking one of those guys goes, if I had to, for me it would be Zay Flowers. And the reason I would say Zay Flowers is because I just believe in that rapport getting even stronger between him and Lamar Jackson. I do think back to what I saw on his Boston College tape where he was winning with double moves on the vertical plane. He was open and they weren't getting the football. I still think that part of his game needs to be unlocked with Lamar Jackson and can be, especially in that system. So for me it's a Flowers if I had to pick it. But I'd be just as happy with Worthy and Jameson Williams, especially thinking that both those guys are the talents I saw on tape. Worthy having that end of season run. Kind of like a Rashid Rice. I know Rice will be back in the mix, but Worthy has a different skill set. And then the wild card for me, Heath. I'm not going to go into too much detail, but I just like what I've seen from a little bit of tape I've watched and I think he's going to be surprising people. It's Keon Coleman. That's somebody I'm going to be trying to buy in all my Dynasty leagues this off season. I think I can get him at a decent price.
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Heath Cummings
So I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna do something here, and then I'm gonna give those of you in the YouTube chat, and I know some of you are watching on Twitter. If you are and you want to ask a question, you got to come over, watch on YouTube, and then enter the question there in the chat. But Dan mentioned those four names, and I'll just tell you. Jameson Williams. I almost tweeted during the game last night, if he keeps this up, he's going to be in my top 12 dynasty wide receivers before the night's over. He was wide receiver 17. Currently in my rankings, Xavier Worthy's wide receiver 18, Zay Flowers, wide receiver 20, and Keon Coleman. As you said, a good buy, much cheaper. Wide receiver 38. So if you guys have some. Some names that you're wondering, like, where do they rank? You don't want to wait until tomorrow to see it. At the end of the show, we're going to answer listener questions, and if there's some names that you, that you've got, put them in the chat. I'll go through this, through there, and I'll tell you where we've got them ranked. Dan can tell me. We'll play a game that I think we played maybe on the first episode of ffg Dynasty. It was a really creative name. Too high, too low, or just right? You remember that, Dan?
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Dan Schneier
Yes, I do.
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Heath Cummings
It's a great, great, great game, I think. Thanks.
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Dan Schneier
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Heath Cummings
On F. I was gonna say Azer may have come up with that one, but. Okay. Question number three. What. What is your dynasty resolution? What will you do different or better next year?
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Dan Schneier
Yeah, I've been thinking a lot about this, Heath, and I feel like in Dynasty, and this is a mistake on my part, I don't want to say pigeonhole myself into a strategy, Heath, but I've really come close to just locking into a mindset. Let's call it in. Dynasty of. I don't value running backs. I don't want them on my roster. I want receivers I will do. I will take a tight end. I will take a quarterback, depending on the format. But I really want to build my roster through the wide receiver position and draft picks. That's how I kind of fuel the roster. But I had a conversation, Jacob, myself and Ben Gretch mid season on the evolution of fantasy football. And when you really dig into this and it really devolves or evolves, I should say, from just the evolution of actual football. The game is changing. So many defenses are playing that too high safety look or, you know, cover three, cover six. Similar idea, keeping everything in front, eyes on the quarterback, keep everything underneath. And what that's invited is teams to build out their run game and build out their team through their running back. It's even invited some teams to throw to the running back more. Now I know that's kind of gone down. So I want to evolve with the times and I want to evolve with the actual game that's changing in the NFL. And so I want to evolve my strategy this year and I'm going to look into this this offseason because I don't know how I want to do this. I don't want to just go head first into running back, but I want to evolve it to understand the value of running back and kind of factor in that. Like, yes, I know if I'm making this big investment, Heath, either via trade or draft pick for a running back, it's going to possibly have a shorter shelf life than that wide receiver. But that amount of time, those years I get out of that back are going to be worth so much more than that wide receiver given how the NFL game is changing. And yeah, the NFL game is going to keep changing, but until quarterback play gets better around the league and it's only gotten worse, according to my estimation, it can't. The passing game can't really get that much better. We need better quarterbacks. It's the reality of the situation. So I want to evolve my game to the way that the NFL, NFL has evolved.
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Heath Cummings
I like that answer. And let's take a short break and we'll get into the top 12 in my dynasty rankings.
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Heath Cummings
Let's start with quarterback dan. The top 12 quarterbacks. My 2025 Dynasty rankings. We even got graphics today. It's going to be fantastic. Number one is Josh Allen. Number two is Lamar Jackson. Number three, Patrick Mahomes. Number four, Joe Burrow. Five, Jalen Hurts. Six, Jaden Daniels. Number seven, Caleb Williams. Eight, Justin Herbert. Nine, Jordan Love. Ten Brock Purdy. Eleven Kyler Murray. And twelve. You said his name earlier in the show. Drake May. Damn. What's the first thing that stands out to you just like just jumps off the page at you.
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Dan Schneier
First thing that jumps out to me is shout out, Debo. Because I love the graphic and I love that we got graphics. So that's just a quick shout out. But the first thing that stands out to me is, you know, I am Heath. I am a terrible person. No, I'm not a terrible person. I just have moments and lapses of bad human and that's going to come out now when I say when we were on the show last year and you said who's gonna jump into my top 12? That's not there. I said Justin Herbert. No one bought into it. No one believed me. They thought the fit was bad with Harvard. I said it's the opposite. Said he doesn't need volume, he just needs efficiency. And that's what he's done. And so Justin Herbert stands out first to me and I think he's going to continue to be there. And then obviously the second thing I see on this page, my boy, Drake May. I'm so happy. Major top 12. So I don't have to use them as an answer to A follow up.
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Heath Cummings
Question I, I will say I don't like. I guess you can victory lap being right about me moving Justin Herbert into the top 12. But I think he was QB18 this season. So I'm not sure you can victory lap what Justin Herbert actually did in terms of fantasy football production.
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Dan Schneier
And that's why I love having you here, Heath, because you can bring me back down and I deserve to be knocked back down.
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Heath Cummings
Drake May, you said it. He made it into the top 12. So he's not the answer to this question. Who's the best quarterback that I left out.
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Dan Schneier
So this one is interesting. I'm going with a 30 year old and I am actually surprised to not see him on this list. It's Jared Goff. I love the infrastructure there with Detroit. They may lose Ben Johnson. I tend to think that's fine given where they're at and given where Jared Goff is at specifically. That offensive line is just so dominant and so reinforced with players. And then what we talked about earlier, Heath, Jameson Williams close to cracking the top 12 at the wide receiver for both of us. So now as he continues to get better and look more and more like that player we saw on this tape at Alabama. He's got weapons there. Laporta, Jameson, Monroe, St, Brown, Gibbs. I mean it's phenomenal with that O line. So just 30 years old. Quarterbacks play late into their career and quite frankly he's playing the best football of his career right now, Jared Goff, so. And he's gonna get all those dome games. So it's golf for me.
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Heath Cummings
Goff is my QB16. Actually the guy who just missed the cut. The guy who was QB13 for me was the guy who changed your mind the most this year. It was Bo Nix. He was actually my QB13. But I think golf's a good answer. And if you're a contender next year, he probably should be a top 12 quarterback. It's a good time to remind people that I'm trying to blend with these rankings. Rankings for contenders and rankings for rebuilders. I'd much rather have Jared Goff on a contending roster than a couple of the names that you see in the top 12 here. And then finally we'll just talk about the rookies. Does Shador Sanders or Cam Ward crack this list by this time next year?
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Dan Schneier
I would love to answer this question in two, three months from now. And I actually watch tape on these guys. I've only seen broadcast games, but broadcast can give you an idea for sure of what they bring to the table. And with that said in mind, we're looking at Tankathon right now. I looked at that before this question. Cleveland in the mix. I don't know if we'll have the cap space to go for a quarterback. Tennessee seems like a lock, so that's not exactly the fit I love, but it's not terrible. It's really not terrible actually, with Calvin Ridley and an improving offensive line. So let's say one of them goes to Tennessee. That's the best bet possibly. I'm gonna still answer no skill set wise. I don't really see it with either of those two.
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Heath Cummings
I don't think, like everything I'm seeing is that these quarterbacks would would have been at best QB4 in last year's class.
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Dan Schneier
Yes.
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Heath Cummings
Which means they're behind the top three that made my top 12. And I'm assuming that Drake May is either going to get an offensive tackle or a number one wide receiver in the. Well, if he could get both, that would be fantastic. Of course, they might just take Travis Hunter and play him at corner and that wouldn't be as good for Drake May. Let's go now to the running back position. Dan's newfound love in Dynasty is the running back position. And I want to talk a little bit. I'm going to have Dynasty tears later in the month, but I'll give you a little bit of a peek at those as well because this position is really tiered. The two guys at the top, Bijan Robinson and Jameer Gibbs, I would not argue with you for ranking either one of them as number one. In fact, in the formula that I use to kind of start formatting these rankings, they came out tied. They are 1A and 1B at the position and there's a pretty decent teardrop after that for me. And then we get to Devon Hn, Kyron Williams. I expect a little bit of pushback from people on, but I don't know how you can do what he's done the last two seasons and be basically in the same situation going into next year and not be a top four. Dynasty running back Breeze Hall, Jonathan Taylor, Saquon Barkley, Bucky Irving, Chase Brown, and then like really after Bucky Irving, who knows? But Ken Walker, Josh Jacobs and James Cook rounds up the top 12 again. That's Robinson, Gibbs, H.N. williams, Hall, Taylor, Barkley, Irving, Brown, Walker, Jacobs and Cook. It's really after number eight Dan, where I just feel like I lose all concept of who should be ranked as a top.
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Dan Schneier
I totally understand that. I want to make it clear first, it's not a newfound love for running back. I've been very anti running back in Dynasty. It's me trying to warm up to the idea of you need to have some running backs and you need to change your strategy a little bit as the NFL evolves. So I want to start there. My, my thoughts on your top 12. It's a really interesting group. I think, you know, the one player I would probably rank highest, higher, I should say, is Josh Jacobs. And I look at Josh Jacobs as a player who's in a really fantastic situation. We found out this year. Yeah. Matt LaFleur, in the past he's had a lot of rotation at running back, not really much this year. And part of that is because Jacobs offers him something that Aaron Jones didn't offer him. And A.J. and you know, players that he's worked with in the past don't really offer him. It's that complete skill set at the back position. He's the guy I'd have the highest. I think there's a question I don't want to skip through because I think there's one other question that would answer the following.
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Heath Cummings
Yeah. And I think, I think Jacobs brings up a point at this position. It's really difficult and interesting is like, what do we do with the fact that the older running backs mostly just all held up this year and some of them had like career years.
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Dan Schneier
Right.
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Heath Cummings
Josh Jacobs is going to be 27 in February. That's generally about the point where we say with a running back, you should only roster him if you're a contender.
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Dan Schneier
Yep.
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Heath Cummings
But we just saw Derrick Henry at 31 Be awesome. We've got James Connor and Aaron Jones looking like they're still 26 years old.
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Dan Schneier
Yep.
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Heath Cummings
And so I, I wonder like if it's not just like if or maybe if. Part of the reason that running backs a little bit more palatable is because we've seen this. These two elite classes of running backs maintain past 27, past 28 and now. Or do we get caught in the trap of expecting some, some non elite classes to do that? Or is this just the marvel of modern medicine and we're going to have running backs playing for longer? It's. It's a question that I tell you what, we'll know the answer in two or three years. We can just guess on it now. So last year, Christian McCaffrey, Travis Etienne and Rashad White were all in my top 12 as of January of 2024. They fell out. Who's going to fall out of this top 12 in the next 12 months.
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Dan Schneier
Yeah, I love this question. It's a fun one to unpack. So there's multiple players in here. I'm going to go for two that are kind of the more low hanging fruit, the ones I think most people pick. And I'm gonna go for a wild card pick. So I'll start with the more low hanging fruit ones. I'll start with Chase Brown. Phenomenal talent. Has looked great on the field, but still day three draft pick. The Bengals didn't really bring in that much competition. Zach Moss. And then he got hurt. I feel like this is a team that could always bring in a different kind of back and I do think that he was the workhorse. More, less by design, Heath and more by the fact that Zach Moss got hurt. And we'll look at the first few weeks to see that. Still phenomenal talent. Love his game. Love that he can get worked in the passing game. Still think he'll have value. But if we're talking about someone who might fall off, maybe him, another player. Kenneth Walker. Phenomenal talent. Even better talent than Chase Brown and has the draft capital, I think early second round pick by the Seahawks. But the injuries are often, I mean they, they're piling up year after year and he's got a great back behind him. But my wild card pick, Heath, the player I would not want on my dynasty or officers and would be looking to trade immediately. Though I still think he'll probably finish in your top 12 next year. But further down, Kyron Williams. Yeah, I mean I'll say this, I do have faith in Sean McVeigh. No doubt he's an unbelievable schemer and he loves Kyron Williams. But here's some things about Kyron Williams that scare me. One, his draft capital. Two, his injury history. And three, it's really hard to find a quarterback in the NFL and we don't get consistent quarterback play. Brian Dable talked about this this week. When you don't get consistent quarterback play on a week to week basis, you can't go anywhere as an offense. You just can't. And so Stafford, when is that ending? It's probably soon. And then we're left with Kyron Williams in a pretty nebulous situation from a quarterback standpoint. I, that's just not someone I would want to roster right now.
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Heath Cummings
Yeah, I, I think there were people that definitely and I. You brought up Chase Brown. People were making that same argument for Chiron going into this year. And Goblin in the chat says Bucky's falling out because Bucky falls in that same bucket of a day three running back. And the, the thing that this is not scientific research, but Jamie and I have talked about this quite a bit and it's mostly held true. When I get worried about the day three running back is when there is a coaching change. Yeah, it's one of the reasons you don't see Tyrone Tracy in the top 12 or the top 24. And maybe, you know, the Giants are building momentum for 2025 with their late season victories, so maybe that keeps Brian Dable's job and so Tyrone Tracy is is safe. But I do think I got. I don't think the Bengals are going to change coaches. Although, I mean if you have Joe Burrow and you miss the playoffs, maybe that's a consideration. I don't think Sean McVeigh is going anywhere. Tampa Bay's well, I mean I guess if they lose week 18 maybe and miss the playoffs. But I feel better about those day three running backs. But also this is like maybe Josh Jacobs should be ahead of those guys. Yeah, it's also just like I look at running backs 13 through 24 and I did for a long time because I didn't like the last four names in my top 12 and I couldn't find guys who were not in the top 12 that I felt like should be. And so I didn't give you this question beforehand, but I'm going to go ahead and ask it now anyways. Is there a name you're not seeing here that you think is definitely a top 12 dynasty running back?
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Dan Schneier
Oh, this one on the fly without preparation is a little tougher, but I will take a quick peek. Just, I mean you mentioned one already that I would consider. It's Tyrone Tracy. I know there's a potential coaching change going on there, but likely from what we've heard, the GM is going to be back and the GM's mindset at running back, it leads me to believe that Tracy will enter at least the next season as the RB1. And by that point I think he'll be able to establish himself. He's been phenomenal. I mean just from a pure talent standpoint, looking at the efficiency metrics, Jacob Gibbs has a ton of great stats on this. He's proven himself in my mind to be in every down back minus the fumbling issue which he'll have to clean up. So Tracy would definitely be someone that comes to mind first. A couple other guys I could throw in there potentially. Isaiah Pacheco maybe? Not sure. Brian Robinson like the fit, like the situation but not sure on that either. Don't feel great about either of those two but they're just someone. They're just too.
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Heath Cummings
That that's, that's kind of where we're at though. It's like it's, it's there are not 12 running backs which here you go. We're going to have some more coming.
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Dan Schneier
And oh yeah we're talking about rookies.
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Heath Cummings
One of them is going to be Ashton Genti. My my rule if if you're new here for the rookies is I'm going to add them to my dynasty rankings after the NFL draft. Yeah I'll have rookie rankings earlier but I'm not going to put them into these rankings. Still, we expect Ashton Genti is going to be the first running back drafted. If he's drafted in the first round of the NFL draft, where would you put him in these rankings?
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Dan Schneier
This is a fun question. For now I'm saying RBA that seems like a cop out based on your breakdown earlier about how it does feel. We come we feel comfortable with the top seven but I could easily and by the way that top seven for me would be the same as yours minus Kyron and add Josh Jacobs but I could easily be convinced to move him higher depending on the fit.
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Heath Cummings
I was thinking four and if I like the fit it might be three. Okay, definitely not top two but you would not have to like especially with the way that a chance finishing the season. Nick, you would not have to do much arm twisting at all for me to put Genti ahead of Devon Hn I'm excited. He might not be the only rookie running back that shows up in these top 12. With the way I feel about nine through 12 in these rankings we might have three or four rookie running backs that crack the top 12 and it's.
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Dan Schneier
Early Heath but this is projected to be one of the stronger running back classes we've had in quite some time.
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Heath Cummings
I I'm excited about it. It's great because you've got an early pick in YOLO so you could like make you can bring your New Year's resolution into fruition by drafting a running back with the second overall pick. Something you've pro I never thought that you would do. Let's get to the top 12 wide receivers and again it's the top two and then it's the rest right? Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson. These guys. Well CD Lamb cracked the top two I think for a week or two but one of these guys has been number one for pretty much the last three years. Chase with an incredible season, Justin Jefferson might break some records in week 18 playing against this miserable Lions defense for the conference for the buy. I can't wait to see what Jefferson does in this game. So it's chasing Jefferson at the top. Malik Neighbors is number three for me. Puka Nakua is number four. CD Lamb has fallen to number five, and I don't know if that's justified or not, but man, I don't want to sleep on how good Pukinaku has been the last two years either. Amun ra St. Brown is number six. Brian Thomas Jr. Has climbed all the way to number seven. Nico Collins at eight. Jackson Smith and Jigman. Remember when he was a rookie loser? He's now wide receiver 9. LAD McConkey wide receiver 10. Marvin Harrison Jr. Wide receiver 11 Jordan Addison wide receiver 12 that's Chase Jefferson, Neighbors, Nakua, Lamb, St. Brown, Thomas Collins, JSN McConkey, Marvin Harrison Jr. And Jordan Addison We've already got a comment in the chat about lad McConkey and so I don't feel any reservation about having elevated Brian Thomas Jr. Ahead of Marvin Harris Jr. Did I go too far in moving lad McConkey ahead of Marvin?
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Dan Schneier
No, we didn't go too far at all. If you look at some of the numbers from lad McConkey, Jacob Gibbs again has some of these. I don't have them handy. Wish I did, but you can check his page. They're phenomenal. And then just the film, that's what I can go off of Heath because I've seen a lot of it. This guy uncovers to a crazy extent. And I talked about this on a Beyond the Box Score maybe three weeks ago with Jacob. When you watch his tape, you start to see the early and it's early because they haven't had a lot of time working together. Heath especially because McConkey missed some time in camp with an injury. And that's some of the issue with this profile, by the way. The injuries are an issue, but you see the early glimpses of that anticipatory throwing between him and Herbert. He's not even out of his break and Herbert has the ball released. Those out routes are almost unguardable. You talk about Aman Ross St. Brown as a player who has some rats that are unguardable. A few of the other guys on this list have some routes that are unguardable. The out routes with McConkey and Herbert are going to become unguardable. So I do not think you have him too High. And I will say this. Looking at this list, Heath, I look at that top eight and I'm like, you know what? Maybe I can't change my strategy because these guys are so good. Like, I want a piece of that. I want to take a chance on somebody who. My draft pick who can become that one of those eight players. Because those eight guys, top eight are just so much better to me in Dynasty. So worth so much more than really anyone.
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Heath Cummings
So you mentioned, like, how good that this list is, and it's incredible. I love it. But Garrett Wilson, Drake London and A.J. brown didn't make the list. That's my wide receiver. 13, 14 and 15. Did I make a mistake leaving one of those guys out?
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Dan Schneier
I think so. I. For me, and it's funny that I'm gonna say this, but I'm a little bit low. Addison wouldn't. I want. I probably put one. I would definitely put. Well, let me see how I want to phrase this. I would definitely have one of them over Addison, probably all three that you mentioned. And there are other guys on this list I'm not as sold on as. As you. Maybe Marvin Harrison Jr. One of them. And that's not as much on him as it is on Kyler and the situation. I don't love jsn. Another one, I'm. I like it. But again, the guy I would have probably the highest of those three is Drake London. And here's Drake London's stats so far with Michael Pennix Jr. At quarterback, who, by the way, I think will be very good for Drake London's fantasy value moving forward in Dynasty. Drake London with Michael Pennock. Small sample size, but he has a 34 target share and a 40 air yardage share. He's running different routes with panics. He's being utilized at different areas of the field, and he's becoming the wide receiver I saw on tape at usc. And I've seen that at times like he was. He was used more like that with Arthur Smith, but just Mariota and Ritter just couldn't get him the ball. Penix has arm talent. Panics can get him the football in different areas of the field. And so he's the one I'm most excited about. But I would have Garrett Wilson above here, too. I know the situation is ugly there, but the talent is just immense there.
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Heath Cummings
You know, something interesting, and I put this out. I think it was on Blue sky yesterday. It might have been on Twitter, but Jordan Addison over the past two seasons has scored more PPR fantasy points per game than Drake. London and you think, well, Drake London's had some really bad quarterbacks.
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Dan Schneier
Yeah.
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Heath Cummings
But if I would have told you coming into this year, like Jordan Addison's going to play 17 games with Sam Darnold or 16 games or actually 14, I think it was because a couple injuries, like we didn't think that Sam Darnold was a, a good, even good quarterback before this year. Jordan Addison has scored 19 touchdowns in his first two years in the NFL. Drake London has not scored 19 touchdowns in his first three years in the NFL. And Drake London hasn't scored a touchdown with Michael Pennix yet. Which I think I'm anticipating might still be a problem next year. Just because like we see it with the, the inexperienced quarterbacks we see it with often rookies struggle in the red zone and getting the ball into the end zone through the air their first year as a starter.
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Dan Schneier
You know what, you've made good points there. I, I think I'm reevaluating this. I honestly do feel that way. Because you have to. You talk about like in Dynasty, you like to buy, you like to look into coaching in Minnesota. Kevin O'Connell isn't going anywhere and Kevin O'Connell has done such a phenomenal job. So environment wise and the stats back it up like you said with Addison and the fact that he's always going to have pretty much single coverage because of Justin Jefferson there, which is phenomen nominal for him. And Darnold is really good at diagnosing that Donald's playing great football. Now I'll say this, I'm higher on Addison if they resign Darnold. I am lower considerably on Addison if they go to J.J. mcCarthy.
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Heath Cummings
Okay.
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Dan Schneier
Reasons you just mentioned, but I think Darnold's playing phenomenal football.
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Heath Cummings
Yeah, I, I think my expectation is probably going to be if O'Connell lets Darnold walk, that we're going to see McCarthy be just about as good as okay Arnold was. Because I don't think Arnold was any good.
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Dan Schneier
But I understand that that and remember.
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Heath Cummings
Like Nick Mullins was throwing for three.
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Dan Schneier
Yeah.
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Heath Cummings
I mean how many great games?
- [34:46]
Dan Schneier
Standpoint. Right. You're talking from a fantasy standpoint, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I can see it being close. I just think Darnold's doing a lot of things that are really good to help move the football.
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Heath Cummings
From question standpoint about these rankings. You see Malik Neighbors at number three. Do I have to move him down a couple of spots if the Giants beat the Eagles this week?
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Dan Schneier
You know, well, it's hard to say because they're gonna have to. They're gonna go through some different options. And I honestly feel like as crazy as it is based on how bad he looked this year, again, not much removed from the injury, which I think he'll get better as he's more removed. The best bet might just be to sign Jameis or Kirk Cousins. As far as Malik neighbors fantasy value.
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Heath Cummings
If, if Malik neighbors, like how about sign Jameis and Joe Flacco?
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Dan Schneier
Sure. And sure, his value, like that's probably better than getting Shador or Cam Ward. You know what I'm saying? If they had the number one overall pick and they hadn't won these games. So I'm not ready to do it yet. If they punt the quarterback position like Joe Shane did this year with Drew Locke, Tommy DeVito and Daniel Jones, the worst quarterback room I've ever seen enter a season, then yeah, it's going to be like that. But I feel like they got to learn from that mistake, I hope.
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Heath Cummings
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You just said I've got to, I've got to go look this up and we won't take too long for this. But you just said the worst quarterback room I've ever seen to open the season. Yeah, I'm just trying to think the year before, was it the Todd Haley year that the Chiefs had Tyler Thigpen and Brock Heward and Brody Croyle.
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Dan Schneier
Oh God. I ended a year with that.
- [36:24]
Heath Cummings
Damon, Damon Hewitt, Brock, Brody Croyle, Tyler Thigpen combined to throw 563 passes.
- [36:30]
Dan Schneier
Oh my God. So I am definitely wrong with my take here, but I can't believe a team entered a year with that and.
- [36:38]
Heath Cummings
Somehow Tony Gonzalez still had 1100 yards.
- [36:41]
Dan Schneier
Wow, that's something.
- [36:42]
Heath Cummings
There you go. We will get to the tight end position right after this break.
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Heath Cummings
You've been playing any golf lately, Dan?
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Dan Schneier
It's over, Heath. The dream is over. It's been freezing. Courses are closed. I have done a. For the first time in my life, I've done a simulator a couple times. I'm gonna take hot take here. Not a fan of the simulator. It's fine. Like, I'll do it if I'm bored on a night, but it's not golf. Doesn't feel like golf. I need to see the ball travel off the club. I don't want to see it hit his screen and be like, that was 150 straight. Like, no, I don't need that.
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Heath Cummings
Is that your three wood or your five wood?
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Dan Schneier
Yeah.
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Heath Cummings
Okay. We got the top 12 tight ends and I talked about the top two at each position being a tier. There might be three tiers in the first three players in these rankings. Brock Bowers is number one on an island by himself.
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Dan Schneier
Oh, yeah.
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Heath Cummings
Maybe a top five pick in startup drafts. Trey McBride is number two on an island by himself. Maybe a first round pick in a startup draft. Sam Laporta is a clear number three. I don't think we could debate anything about that. And then it gets a little bit questionable. I would put Mark Andrews, George Kittle, TJ Hawkinson kind of all into one little bubble. And then I. I'm not sure there's another tight end that I want to roster in Dynasty, but the back half of my top 12. Dalton Kincaid, Tucker Kraft, Kyle Pitts. Yes. Somehow still Dave and Ajoku, Travis Kelsey, at least until February 15th. And Jatavian Sanders. Woof. Like, has there ever. Have you ever seen a graphic because you think most. Most leagues are 12 team leagues. Right. That illustrates the haves and the have nots more than this one right here. If you're in a dynasty league and you have one of the guys on the left, you have life. If you have one of the guys on the right. Well, thank you, Travis Kelsey for the championship this week. That turned back the clock for one game. I. I believe you will do it for the next three games. But if you have one of the guys on the right, you're almost drawing dead.
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Dan Schneier
Yeah, I mean, I can't argue with you. It's funny. This was supposed to be the year of the tight end. Heath, as far as dynasty startups go, because I can apply this to redraft. I am, I've made it clear to myself and I told Jacob this last week I will not, and I repeat, I will not fall for this trap again in drafts next year. I will not be using a mid round pick, fourth round, four, five, six on the guy at tight end when I could be getting a James Connor or I could be getting a Brian Robinson or one of these backs can actually help me win or receiver. So I've done that in that dynasty. You know, I'll still fall for the trap because I do like watching tape and I love Gates Dave. Right. Like I have guys that I love on date. Luke Musgrave, who has been injured and hasn't hit Tucker Craft a great tape at South Dakota State as well. So I'll probably fall for that trap again. Heath. But you're right, it's an interesting position in dynasty we have, I would even say less so than like, like the, the left versus the right here. It's really like those top three and I'd honestly even argue just the top two are separated so far above any other position. We just went over Bowers and McBride. I don't feel great about the port. I guess I'm okay with it. And then we're at guys already like Andrews, Kittle and Hawkinson who are older. Right. Especially Kittle and Andrews. And so we're already kind of losing some steam there. It feels like.
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Heath Cummings
Yeah, I, I, I don't know if Gibbs told you this on one of I know you guys do a lot of podcasts together and I know I, I really kind of ruffled little bit in our tight end premium league when I tried to trade for Dalton Kincaid at a discount and he, he basically called it an insulting offer. And so we, we had a little back and forth because I get kind of annoyed when somebody says it's an insulting offer. And he said, you know, this season would have gone different if I'd just taken, taken Trey McBride there. Said, yeah, Trey McBride's good. Like what you said you like the tape for Dalton Kincaid?
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Dan Schneier
Let me make that clear.
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Heath Cummings
The college tape?
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Dan Schneier
Yeah.
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Heath Cummings
Okay. That doesn't make me feel near as good. I thought you were going to give me some things from his play in the NFL to make me feel good about the fact that he just turned 75 targets into 448 yards.
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Dan Schneier
No, it's, it's, it's what you said. It's the college tape where I was excited about him and it's how I thought he'd be used at the NFL level based on how he won I college level. He just isn't used that way at all in this Buffalo scheme. And they're not going to make a change at coordinator and they shouldn't because this offense works. So for me, like, if this is how he's going to be used at the NFL level, I'm sure there'll be some evolution, right? They invested in him, but I don't know. And this is how he's used. I'm just not as excited as I used to be about him. I still want to buy into the talent, though. He. I don't want to rule someone out after two years based on. I mean, I mean, look, when he was in college, he was essentially their big slot receiver and he was essentially their entire offense. That's what had me so excited about him. He won underneath over and over and over again. Kind of similar to how we see Trey McBride win, to be completely honest. Only Kincaid didn't join an offense that's going to use him like, like the Arizona Cardinals use Trey McBride. He just, he joined a completely different scheme and that matters. So it's just. I don't want to go. I don't want to jump off this yet, but, but it's, it's tough given, like, where Buff. How Buffalo uses him.
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Heath Cummings
Dalton Kincaid had six different games this year where he had seven or more targets. That's pretty good for a tight end, right?
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Dan Schneier
Right.
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Heath Cummings
He did not reach 60 receiving yards once in any of those games.
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Dan Schneier
That's really bad.
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Heath Cummings
I don't, I don't understand it. But enough of that because I, I agree, like, people are asking the chat like, I don't want to just move on from Kincaid. No, you can't. It's. No, it's the sunk cost. Just, just, just hold on and hope that next year is better because he is with Josh Allen. But more pressing, please, for tomorrow's article, give me somebody, anybody else to rank at tight end. 12 that's not named Jatavian Sanders.
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Dan Schneier
Well, I would say this. I got some deep, deeper dives, but for me, Evan Ingram should be in the top 12 on this list, just given his contract situation. Trevor Lawrence coming back in the report he built with Lawrence. So he would be probably someone I would put in there over to Davion Sanders. But first, you know, lesser veteran type plays. I got two. The first would be John Smith. I mean, look, I don't know what's gonna happen with John who this offseason, but Chadu looks pretty damn good on the football field. He moves incredibly well after the catch and he's proven he can be a weapon for fantasy this year and for the Dolphins. So I wouldn't be surprised to see him come back there on a team friendly ish dealer, you know, giving him a nod like we'll pay you a little bit more than you've been making in your NFL career. So he's one. And then for the deepest dive, Heath, this is the one that's most interesting to me. Isaiah Likely. So the reason I like this is Likely has been a phenomenal talent on the football field and great on a per touch basis just isn't involved a lot. Right. Well, Mark Andrews contract is up after this next season and they've got a lot of guys they have to pay the Baltimore Ravens. So I wouldn't be surprised to see them move on from Andrews after this, after his contract runs up. And now you have a guy in Likely who you could get really cheap who will still be under contract, I believe at that point, maybe in his final year year and then could have that breakout year.
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Heath Cummings
So I, I, John, who I considered and I just have a philosophical rule. He's my tight end, 19. I have a philosophical rule that I, if a guy has a career year at age 29 or age 30, I don't buy it. I'm not going to buy it for the next year. And sometimes those guys do it again, but I'm just, I'm not gonna buy it. So I, I understand why. If you want to buy it though, makes perfect sense. Isaiah Likely is actually my number 13 tight end, so he was the guy who was closest. I think I'm going to take that suggestion, Dan. And when the article comes out, Isaiah Likely will be tied in 12. And I'm just going to clear love for Evan Ingram. No love at all for Evan Ingram, who will turn 31 before he plays another football game.
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Dan Schneier
That's fair.
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Heath Cummings
Has averaged fewer than 7 yards per target in five of his last six seasons. Has not scored more than four touchdowns in a year since 2017. Oh, and looking at the contract, he does have $13 million worth of dead money on the cap for next year. So they're probably going to keep him. But they would save $7 million by cutting him.
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Dan Schneier
Yeah, and strangers look pretty good behind him and they drafted him so, you know, all great points. I would move him back off that list.
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Heath Cummings
So I, I've made a couple references to Travis Kelsey winning the super bowl and then retiring, but let's say maybe the Chiefs lose somehow and Travis Kelsey doesn't retire if he announces he's returning for the 2025 season. How much higher should I have him? He's currently my tight end. 11.
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Dan Schneier
First of all, hearing the name Travis Kelsey gives me shell shock because I went against my grain and I went against my rule of sticking to the process, keeping my picks even though I'm a contender. And I traded you my first round pick for Kelsey and Connor, and I just immediately regret that I didn't win the league. I got screwed. Jalen Hurts got hurt and now I'm looking at it like, was it worth it? It. No, it was not worth it. I want that first round pick back. Thank God I didn't give you Brian Thomas for those guys. That was your original offer. That was never happening. And you're like the chat told you that you should make this trade. I'm glad I didn't listen to the chat because if I drew Brian, who was that? If I traded Brian, the chat said this is a rip off for Dan. He's got to do it. If I traded Brian Thomas for Travis Kelsey and James Connor, I might just quit the league out of shame at this point. But let me just start by saying that as far as your question goes, though, for the Cards of Travis, Travis Kelsey, how much higher would I rank him? Like, not that much higher. Heath, I think what ended up happening this year is what you predicted would happen. And a lot of people were closer to the Chiefs situation predicted and I was wrong on which is they're not really using him until the playoffs. I'm gonna watch and I'm gonna see. And if he looks like old Travis Kelsey in the playoffs this year, just like last year, I'm gonna be like, you know, this is a plan. They are doing something like, specifically to keep him healthy for these playoff runs. So for me, I'm kind of out on Kelsey now for good.
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Heath Cummings
And there was that stretch when they lost Rice and they hadn't added Hopkins yet and Worthy wasn't quite ready where he did have week five, 70 yards, week seven, 90 yards, week eight, 100 yards. Like, right. He had a little stretch and then he stepped up for all of us in the Fantasy Championship, scoring 22 fantasy points against the Steelers of all teams. So I do think he still has it. I think you were right about that. It's just, I mean, how exciting is it to think about the fact that Patrick Mahomes might have Rashi Rice and Xavier Worthy at full speed heading into.
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Dan Schneier
Next year and they might, I mean, they might get it. I would do it if I were him. He's a free agent I believe. But Hollywood Brown signing on a team friendly deal just to revalue like he doesn't have value heading into free agency. If he does one year with Mahomes, he could get value for that next year heading into free agency.
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Heath Cummings
So those are the top 12 at every position. If you go to CBSSports.com fantasy tomorrow you will see a top 50 at quarterback, a top 50 at tight end, a top 80 running back, a top 100 at wide receiver and we'll have links to the trade charts which will be over at Sportsline as they always are. I am so excited to release those. We've got a couple of minutes left here for some some chat questions, some names that you guys want to know. Like where does this guy rank? And I love Matt for bringing this one up. Let's talk Mims. Marvin Mims. I was really high on him coming out of college. He was mostly been a disaster and a flop. I blame Sean Payton, but that was a good showing. I just got a glimmer of hope from Marvin Mims. Looked like it looked like the guy that I thought he was. In their most recent victory and in the updated rankings he is currently wide receiver 65. For me, I have him just ahead of Jalen Polk, just ahead of his teammate Troy Franklin, just ahead of Adonai Mitchell, just ahead of Jermaine Burton. Too high, too low or just right For Marvin Mimsdam, I think that's just right.
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Dan Schneier
It's hard for me to buy into him as somebody who we're going to have consistent value from, even though I do like the evolution of that offense. So I think I'm okay with that.
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Heath Cummings
One other met. You're both, you're both the number one, Matt and I appreciate you both. Matt Walter says Derek Henry. What do I do with him? I've got him at RB17 in the Dynasty rankings, just behind McCaffrey, Camara and Chuba. These are full PPR rankings. Just ahead of David Montgomery, Pacheco and Charbonnet. Too high, Too low or just right?
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Dan Schneier
No, that's just right for me though. Look, we looked at him this year and we said. Or some of us looked at him this year, not me, but some of us looked and said, look, all the data suggests this is a bad buy for Fantasy. But, but there are outliers in this sport and Derrick Henry, man, is the biggest outlier I've ever seen play the sport. I really do believe that. I think in my, for my Money. He's the best athlete I've ever watched play football. If you're 260, 31 years old with thousands of carries and hits on your record and you're still outrunning safeties and beating safeties angles or 80 yard touchdown runs like we've seen him do this year, you are the best athlete and to me that I've ever watched play the sport. Just from what I consider an athlete. It's like my LeBron James argument. When you're 69270 and you can move like that, you're the best athlete ever. So I'm not going to bet against him and I would potentially maybe move my spot or two higher. He's just somebody I would want on my roster at this point.
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Heath Cummings
Well, you know, I mean maybe if you're going to move to into your running back era.
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Dan Schneier
Yes.
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Heath Cummings
Eric Henry, someone you want to add in the YOLO league? I don't have any picks in this upcoming draft. We can have a discussion about that. I want to give Matt a shout out because I called him other matt. 2nd place in the greatest league name ever. FFT fans only. Dynasty league. FFT fans only. Congratulations on that place, man. You know we gotta enjoy the seconds as well. I reject this idea that if you don't finish this season first overall, it was just a bad year. This is I think a great name. Jalen McMillan. And it's with or without Godwin's return. He was one of the most difficult wide receivers for me to rank. What do you do with the guy who has like a four game stretch like this at the end of the year and we don't know what Godwin status is going to be. Although McMillan's maybe made it easier for Tampa Bay to let him go. I have Jalen McMillan at wide receiver, 39, just behind Jaden Reed and Keon Coleman. I'm looking at the younger guys because it doesn't do any good to compare him to the older guys. Well, just ahead of Jerry Judy and Xavier Lee gets.
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Dan Schneier
I think it's about exactly where I'd have him actually. And that's not to say I'm not high on him. He's had a steady drum beat. He had an unbelievable training camp. We'd kind of poo pooed it as like third receiver on the Bucks. This won't be much for redraft. Obviously the injury changed that. The injury to Godwin changed that. Godwin's an older player, Evans is an older player. Love the talent and I love what I've seen from rapport standpoint this early with Baker Mayfield. And we got to get to the point now, Heath, where we. And this is one guy we didn't talk about and probably could have been argued to be in that top 12 at quarterback. We got to give the respect. That's due to Baker Mayfield. He is throwing the football now. I hope he keeps Liam Cohen, because I think Liam Cohen's playing a big role in that.
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Heath Cummings
But he just lost his offensive coordinator.
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Dan Schneier
But he did. You're right, he did just go. That's a great point. Everybody said, oh, no, he lost Dave Canalis. What's going to happen? And things got ultimately even better for him from a fantasy standpoint. And he's throwing more of those vertical intermediate routes, which he can throw the arm. Talent's always been there for him. So now the timing's great. He's playing confidently. So, Yeah, I like McMillan. Based on the quarterback situation and the rapport that's going to build world, I.
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Heath Cummings
Would say if Godwin is, like, signed somewhere else or we definitely find out that he's gone.
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Dan Schneier
Yeah.
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Heath Cummings
Then McMillan may move up five to 10 spots.
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Dan Schneier
Fair.
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Heath Cummings
Wouldn't be surprised if he. If he cracks the top 30 in that. In that situation. We got a couple more here real quick. Oh, more Dynasty Content Weekly, please. Heath, you know what? Your wish is my command. Let me tell you what the schedule is going to be like. So next week on Monday, we're going to do a special Monday mock draft. Not a rookie mock, a full startup mock. The first one of 2025. It will be live. Jacob Gibbs will be here. I'm not sure who else will be here, but it's going to be a good time. And then I'm going to take about 10 days off. So the following week we're gonna have a special Friday show. And then after that, we're going Tuesday and Friday every week for the rest of the off season. Except for when I take a vacation. I'm not sure when that's going to be it. But yes, Tuesdays and Fridays, we're two shows a week. And I may even push when we get to April, we get close to the draft, maybe we'll get a. Maybe we'll get a third show. One week or two weeks. You'd like that. Tell me if you'd like that. And we will try to make it happen. Is Rashi Rice.
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Dan Schneier
And one more thing on that front. Just, just. So for those who don't know, there's also going to be a ton of written content. So this is. He's just talking about the podcast. Check out the site because he's going all in from a written standpoint on what, what you're going to have. And those are all resources that you can leverage. I think the, the most valuable one to me at least is the trade charts for both 2 QB Super Flex and then 1 QB. Just such a good reference for me to have in the off season and I've used it throughout the season as well. So you'll have that updated as well, I think this week.
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Heath Cummings
Just don't use that if you're playing in a league with me and say, hey, your trade chart says you would do this. Rashi Rice, is he top 15? I currently have him at wide receiver 22. That's probably a little bit low. I'd like to hear that he's 100 healthy. I'd like to hear the length of his suspension. Yeah, he probably is a guy who's going to be top 15 at some point, assuming we don't get a worst case scenario on either the injury front or the suspension front. And do we have one more? We got one more. Chig Okonkwo. Why didn't we mention him when it could have been a top 12 tight end? He's my tight end. 22. I like him more than Evan Ingram, but I every time I think about counting on Chico conquo he scores. Eight Fantasy.
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Dan Schneier
I know. And I. I just. It's so uncertain. That quarterback's still there. I think they'll probably get Shador, but I don't know what they're gonna do. Tennessee at the second overall pick. So yeah, it's just. It's not for me yet.
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Heath Cummings
Dan, thank you for being here. Thank you for going through the rankings with me. Thank you to Debo for putting Thomas actually shout out Shaffy T. Who's not here today but did put the graphics together. Debo ran the graphics. Appreciate that. Thank you to everybody in the chat who had questions. I'll say it once again because it's the end of the year. Thank you guys for helping to make this a successful show and allowing us to do more Dynasty content next year. Because that only happens if the stuff we're doing now is working. And it is. So we're going to bring you more. And if you guys could just remember to go to Spotify and to give us five stars and to give us a review in January. I'll be doing a Spotify review question mailbag. So you put five stars, you ask a question. I'll answer your question on the podcast in January. We won't talk to you next Tuesday. We'll talk to you next Monday with a Monday mock draft.