George Pickens to the Cowboys! Plus Fantasy Game Shows and Fantasy Cops! (05/07 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Note: The following is a detailed summary of the "Fantasy Football Today" podcast episode titled "George Pickens to the Cowboys! Plus Fantasy Game Shows and Fantasy Cops!" released on May 7, 2025, by CBS Sports. This summary captures all key points, discussions, insights, and conclusions, including notable quotes with timestamps.

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Fantasy Football Today: George Pickens to the Cowboys! Plus Fantasy Game Shows and Fantasy Cops!

Release Date: May 7, 2025
Hosts & Analysts: Adam Aizer, Dave Richard, Jamey Eisenberg, Heath Cummings

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Introduction

The episode begins with Heath Cummings introducing "Fantasy Football Today," setting the stage for an engaging discussion on recent trades, fantasy strategies, and listener interactions.

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George Pickens Trade to the Dallas Cowboys

Trade Details and Initial Reactions

At [02:00], Adam Aizer introduces the major news of the episode: George Pickens' trade from Pittsburgh to the Dallas Cowboys, along with a sixth-round pick in 2027, in exchange for a third-round pick and a fifth-round pick. He analyzes Pickens' performance over the past three seasons, highlighting his efficiency and target rates compared to Ceedee Lamb.

Adam [02:00]:
"George Pickens is better than Ceedee Lamb, everyone, unless you look at yards per out run rate. That's terrible."

Analysts' Perspectives on the Trade

Heath questions who the biggest winner is in the trade. Heath expresses confidence in DK Metcalf's standing post-trade, noting a potential boost in Metcalf's target share within the Cowboys' offense.

Heath [03:02]:
"The guy who moved up the most in my rankings was DK Metcalf. He's still a number three wide receiver for me, but he's more of a high end than a low end."

Dave Richard offers a nuanced view, suggesting that Pickens is a winner and recommending strategies for leveraging his position in drafts.

Dave [05:08]:
"I think he's a winner. I think Friarmouth is a winner because now you can draft him to be your tight end to start the season and he'll cost you next to nothing."

Jamie Eisenberg adds excitement about Dak Prescott's potential impact with better offensive weapons, emphasizing consistency.

Jamie [06:23]:
"Dak has been 24 points or better, so there's enough track record to say he can get to that again."

Impact on Fantasy Rankings

The team delves into how this trade affects various player rankings, especially focusing on wide receivers like DK Metcalf and Ceedee Lamb. Heath adjusts his sleeper rankings, while Dave contemplates the ceiling Metcalf might reach with improved offensive dynamics.

Heath [07:12]:
"I like that maybe the efficiency goes up for Pickens."

Dave [11:19]:
"Who has more carries inside the five yard line? James Cook or Josh Allen?"

Conclusion on the Trade

The analysts maintain a mixed stance, with optimism for Metcalf's elevated role and caution regarding Pickens' consistency. They acknowledge the potential for the Cowboys' offense to boost both players' performances.

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Fantasy Cops Segment

The "Fantasy Cops" segment addresses listener emails detailing various fantasy league disputes and questions.

Issue 1: Commissioner Missteps

A listener named Camo reports issues with a commissioner changing draft rules without proper voting, leading to disputes about fairness and adherence to league bylaws.

Heath [50:38]:
"Any commissioner that does that should be severely penalized up to and including losing his commissioner privileges."

Issue 2: Inappropriate League Additions

Another email discusses the inclusion of a 12-year-old in a fantasy league, causing inappropriate team names and concerns about collusion.

Jamie [57:45]:
"If the rest of the league wants the kid out of it, then it sucks for the kid, but he's got to get out of league. Find somebody else. Replace."

Issue 3: Handling Inactive Managers

Jeff shares a scenario where a manager was removed for inactivity, causing backlash upon reinstatement, questioning the commissioner's decisions.

Heath [61:26]:
"If somebody doesn't respond for a couple of weeks, life happens. Let's reach out to the guy and find out why before we kick him out of the league."

Issue 4: Fantasy Soccer Scoring Dilemma

A listener from a fantasy soccer league seeks advice on handling a player's suspension and negative points during multi-game weeks.

Heath [64:35]:
"I think there's an obvious answer. You get the negative 7."

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Fantasy Game Shows

Name That Player

Participants guess players based on provided clues.

Adam [23:59]:
"I was the number four wide receiver in PPR in 2024 despite leaving one game early with an injury."

Heath successfully identifies Drake London based on the clues.

Fantasy Feud

Modeled after the TV show "Family Feud," the hosts guess top answers to fantasy-related questions.

Adam [29:07]:
"Wide receivers with 10 or more touchdown catches."

Heath impressively identifies all seven required wide receivers, showcasing his deep knowledge.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Adam [02:00]: "George Pickens is better than Ceedee Lamb, everyone, unless you look at yards per out run rate."

• Heath [03:02]: "The guy who moved up the most in my rankings was DK Metcalf."

• Dave [05:08]: "I think he's a winner. I think Friarmouth is a winner because now you can draft him to be your tight end to start the season and he'll cost you next to nothing."

• Jamie [06:23]: "Dak has been 24 points or better, so there's enough track record to say he can get to that again."

• Heath [50:38]: "Any commissioner that does that should be severely penalized up to and including losing his commissioner privileges."

• Jamie [57:45]: "If the rest of the league wants the kid out of it, then it sucks for the kid, but he's got to get out of league. Find somebody else. Replace."

• Heath [61:26]: "If somebody doesn't respond for a couple of weeks, life happens. Let's reach out to the guy and find out why before we kick him out of the league."

• Heath [64:35]: "I think there's an obvious answer. You get the negative 7."

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Conclusion

The episode wraps up with a summarized discussion on the implications of recent trades, strategies for managing fantasy leagues, and entertaining game segments that engage both hosts and listeners. Heath emphasizes the importance of fair commissioner practices, while Adam and others underscore the dynamic nature of fantasy football strategies. The hosts sign off by previewing the next podcast episode, ensuring listeners remain engaged for future discussions.

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key points, discussions, insights, and conclusions from the podcast episode, providing valuable information to both regular listeners and newcomers interested in fantasy football.

Transcript

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[Adam]

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[Heath]

Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath.

[Adam]

Whoa. What's going everybody? Very exciting show. Did you know that over the last three seasons there have been 105 wide receivers with 100 or more targets? George Pickens ranks 11th out of those 105 wide receivers and yards per target. CD Lamb's 31st. George Pickens is seventh in yards per catch. Lamb is 62nd in yards per catch. George Pickens ranks 14th in explosive play rate. Lamb is 47th. George Pickens is better than Ceedee Lamb, everyone, unless you look at yours per out run rate. That's terrible. And target per out run rate also favoring Ceedee Lam. He is elite in those two. But George Pickens been a very efficient wide receiver when he catches the ball in over the last three seasons, which is his entire career. Now he is on the Dallas Cowboys as the Cowboys acquire pickens and a sixth round pick in 2027 for a third round pick and a fifth round pick. Third round pick next year, fifth round pick in 2027. Welcome everybody. Heath, who's the biggest winner in this trade?

[Heath]

I the guy who moved up the most in my rankings was DK Metcalf. I had a little bit of uncertainty about how big the split would be between Metcalf and Pickens in terms of targets. We've talked about this a lot. They're very similar players. And now Metcalf is the clear alpha number one on that team. So he's still a number three wide receiver for me, but he's more of a high end than a low end.

[Adam]

Who's got a hot take about this situation, by the way, Coming up on today's show, Fantasy Cops got four Fantasy Cops emails.

[Heath]

Is one of them about a dynasty rookie draft where the commissioner cannot get the draft order correct?

[Adam]

I think so.

[Jamie]

Okay.

[Adam]

We got three Fantasy Cops emails. I think so. We got that. We've got who has more fantasy feud and name that player. So it's game show day today. I was not expecting this. George Pickens news was supposed to be just game shows and fantasy cops. So that's coming up, so stay tuned for that. All right, who's got a hot take about this George Pickens to the Cowboys.

[Jamie]

Trade Dak Prescott's QB6.

[Dave]

What?

[Adam]

Whoa. Really?

[Jamie]

No, but okay, you wanted something spicy, right?

[Adam]

No, he's been white. It's been top four per game in three of the last six seasons. You got him at QB8?

[Jamie]

Yep.

[Adam]

Wow. Pretty hot take.

[Heath]

All right, I'll have to adjust my Sleepers article. It's coming out later [e-mail] because I was just using our consensus rankings and it sounds like Jamie might move Dak up enough to where he's not ranked low enough in the consensus rankings to be a sleeper. Thanks for that, Jamie. I I got kind of skewered on Twitter this morning for saying that I really am not excited about any sort of upgrade for George Pickens. And everybody seems to think because he's going to a much better quarterback and a much better offense, he's going to be better. And I still think he's a number four wide receiver.

[Adam]

Dave, hot take.

[Dave]

I've got DK as a borderline number two. Number three wide receiver in full PPR because I think he can pick up the 7.4 targets per game that we saw from, from Pickens rather last year. And he got off to a great start last year in Seattle with Gino. He got hurt and that's when his numbers hit the toilet. I, I think that he, he's okay to take. There's, there's really this range of receivers. Honestly the range is like way higher than 24th among wide receivers, but somewhere between like 24 and 40. All those guys kind of feel the same. They all might be separated in Heath's rankings by like a PPR point per game. Just, I'm guessing, I don't know Heath's projections. So I don't know. But I think he's, I think he's a winner. I think Friarmouth is a winner because now you can draft him to be your tight end to start the season and he'll cost you next to nothing. And I moved back up, I didn't move back into my top 10. But I, I mean I, I gotta hear more about that. Like how is DAK A top 10 quarterback? I guess it makes sense a little bit because Pickens just going there and like he already had Lamb. He was going to make good numbers with Lamb, but maybe you're just figuring that Pickens is just such a huge upgrade that it's going to push his numbers sky high.

[Jamie]

Well, for the last six years he's been 24 points or better, so there's already enough of a track record to say he can get to that again. And he did that two years ago with CD Lamb and Brandon Cooks as his top receivers. Obviously Lamb was astronomical, but I think you're looking at, you know, what Pickens brings. As you know, he's not a 1A in this scenario, but he's, he's a pretty good too, you know. And you look at what he was able to accomplish last year with a. The best quarterback he's played with is 35 year old Russell Wilson. 36. What was Russell Wilson last year like? He's had such miserable quarterback play. I think he's a huge winner in this because you know, you go to the situation, just comparing the situations, forget about a year ago to this year, you know, just comparing the situations that he's leaving, he's leaving maybe Aaron Rodgers. Right? We're hoping it's Aaron Rodgers obviously.

[Adam]

Right.

[Dave]

That's the best case scenario.

[Jamie]

But he's leaving Aaron Rodgers as the second guy there in almost a duplicate situation because him and DK Metcalf were going to do a lot of the same type of things. Now he's going where he's not expected to be the leader of the receiving corps. Not going to lead the team in Target should play off of CD Lamb with I think the best quarterback of his career. Assuming that Dak Prescott at 32 coming off a major hamstring injury is going to be fine, but all the stuff that you hear is he's going to be fine. And so I'm counting on Dax history, which has been through two different head coaches and a couple different office coordinators that he's produced at that level. I think he's got a good opportunity here to bounce back and bounce back in a big way. This is might be the best receiving core he's ever had. You know, so with Ferguson as the third guy and no run game and this offensive line was good last year and look, Zach Martin obviously is. Is a big loss, but I think the Zach Martin that they're losing and what they're replacing him with is better. So offensive line is. Was top 10 in PFF rankings, I believe. Adam, if I'm not mistaken, that's what I saw this morning in pass blocking from a year ago. So you know, getting better. I don't know, it feels like Cowboys.

[Adam]

Cowboys you said, or the Steelers Cowboys.

[Jamie]

I'm sorry if I said.

[Adam]

No, no, you didn't heard in class blocking they. I had made a note of that because Dax took a lot of sacks last year and they struggled according to pff. They struggled in. In pass protection. Go ahead, Heath.

[Jamie]

Okay, maybe I saw something different.

[Heath]

I, I agree completely about the DAC as a top 10 quarterback. I think I had him 10th before this. He's in a tier. I don't know how much I'm actually going to move him up, but he's in a tier with the guys basically from 6 through 10. I think you could make a reasonable argument for ranking him as high as 6, but I the thing that concerns me about Pickens just getting back to that because it is the best quarterback he's ever played with. I think for sure I the pie is bigger in Dallas. They're going to throw for a lot more yards, they're going to throw a lot more times. Even if that comes down a little bit with Brian Schottenheimer in charge of everything in a first time OC. But CD Lamb has been a guy that earns 10, 11 targets per game. DK Metcalf hasn't been that guy. Like it's at least 3 targets per game more for Lamb, for me than I would have for Metcalf. So I like, I think that maybe the efficiency, the catch rate or efficiency goes up for Pickens. I'm not sure there is a big target boost as the number two behind cdlam compared to being.

[Jamie]

Yeah, I don't think there's a huge target boost but I think like you said, the pie is bigger, the quarterback is better, the coverage is going to be better for him, you know, because he's not facing everybody's number one. You look what he did in that stress with Russell Wilson, who was again the most capable guy that he's ever caught passes from. And four of those first six games were arguably the four best games of his career from that stretch, you know, so just looking at his production over that time and what he's hopefully able to do here, look, he's got to keep his head on right? That's a big part of this too, you know, is he going to be happy if he's not getting enough targets? And you know, this is one of those situations where it's hard to judge vacated targets because the, the number two receiver for them last year was Brandon Cooks at 31 years old. You know, in a situation where Dak missed nine games. So that's 54 targets. I don't think that's what he's getting. I think he's getting obviously a lot more than that. I don't know, it feels like a great scenario for, for Pickens to walk in in a contract year to a team that may be terrible running the ball and that's if they get a Dobbins or a Chub. Like this is not going to be a run based Dallas team like we're used to seeing from years past. Like this is going to be Dak Prescott's offense and throw the ball a lot. And so yeah, CD Lamb, I don't think he loses by any stretch in this, you know, scenario. Like if you're debating him versus Jefferson, that was a tough call for me prior to this. So I had Lamb two, now he's three, Jefferson's two. I don't know, it feels like a great spot for Pickens considering where he's leaving. And I think it's great for Dak Prescott just given what he's got in front of him right now.

[Adam]

Well, over the last three seasons that's really when CD Lam broke out for for Dallas. The number two target getter has been Dalton Schultz at 89, Jake Ferguson at 102 and Ferguson again at 86. So it's been the tight end all three years, somewhere between 82 and 102 targets. We need more than that from George Pickens. Obviously we're hopeful of that.

[Heath]

And I think another thing is like George Pickens is his places of being targeted is nowhere similar to the tight ends. So I don't really like it's that you don't target those guys in the same type of the same part of the field or in the same situations. So I don't know that the hardest part for me is it's hard to get Pickens to it. Like a 20 target share in Dallas would be great. That's about where I had him in Pittsburgh. I think he's in the teens because I don't take anything away from Ferguson because Pickens is there.

[Adam]

Oh, I would hope so, honestly. I mean, you know you're just going.

[Heath]

To take some of those tight end dumps and turn them into Hail Marys.

[Adam]

No, his ADOT's like 13 yards. He's not an 18 yard Hail Mary guy. And last year he was the only wide receiver in the league, if maybe the only player in the league that had six or more green zone targets inside the 10 yard line and did not have a single catch. So this guy, even when he was targeted in the end zone, it just, they never were able to connect. Green zone.

[Jamie]

Can you look this up just from 2023 because Brandon Cooks in a healthy Dak Prescott season at eight touchdowns. 2023 as a number two receiver for Dallas. Like yeah, if that's a neighborhood that Pickens can live in with what he should be able to do. On top of that.

[Adam]

Just the amount of touchdowns that have been the difference in touchdowns over the last three years between Dallas and Pittsburgh.

[Jamie]

Staggering.

[Adam]

It's insane. Yeah, last year was only like two or three. But Dak has also missed 14 games over those last three seasons. All of them in 2022 and 2024. I don't know, I mean I just looked at it like man, the Cowboys have go before this morning a pretty bad offense around. I mean the line might be fine but like pretty boring offense. Like they just don't have great skill. They have CD Lamb and like nothing else to write home about. They just got a really talented player. I think it's pretty exciting. I don't know. I mean, I don't know how it translates to fantasy. We'll have to see how that shakes out. But I think it's exciting. I think it's great. For Dak, I think it's great. I think it's good for Pickens. I mean, Heath obviously disagrees. I think at least gives him a shot to be something fun. Whereas in Pittsburgh, if he'd second fiddle to DK Metcalf in Pittsburgh, I don't know what we're getting from Pickens. Correct.

[Jamie]

Yeah, it was off.

[Adam]

And I think it's great for DK Metcalf if he gets Aaron Rodgers. Here's my hot take. If DK Metcalf gets Aaron Rodgers, he's going to be worth a third round pick. He's going to have the second best season of his career is Aaron Rodgers.

[Dave]

You'll never draft him in a route. You'll always get him after that.

[Adam]

Aaron Rodgers does one thing consistently. He finds his favorite receiver and targets the hell out of him. Garrett Wilson was on pace for 190 targets in the first six games. Devonte Adams was on pace for 174 targets in the last 11 games. And the first six games of the season, Garrett Wilson was first or second in the NFL in red zone and green zone targets, maybe third. And then it was the same exact thing for Devonte Adams in the last 11. He has a great history of focusing on one guy all over the field including and especially near the end zone. So I am excited if Aaron Rodgers goes to the Steelers. I know it won't be a super pass heavy offense, but I am, I am excited for everyone with this trade. I think this is a great trade.

[Jamie]

For Fantasy, not for Ferguson.

[Adam]

No, he's. Forget him. But. Yeah, like, but I'm excited. He's. Pour cold water on me. Go ahead.

[Heath]

Well, there's a, there's a, there's a difference between Garrett Wilson and Devonte Adams and DK Metcalf. Those guys like Devonte Adams has a decade history of getting 10 targets per game.

[Adam]

Alan Lazard and Christian Watson the same thing.

[Heath]

Wilson had 10 9.9 targets per game before Aaron Rodgers got there. DK's never been that guy.

[Adam]

No, but Garrett Wilson was never that guy either.

[Heath]

No. Garrett Wilson had 168 targets the year before Aaron Rodgers got there. Or I'm sorry, Aaron Rodgers was there. He was on injured reserve the entire.

[Adam]

It was obviously his influence. Okay, I stand corrected then.

[Heath]

And I've projected Metcalf, I think for the highest target share of his career. But they're probably going to throw 480 passes.

[Adam]

Yeah, I, I don't know.

[Dave]

And so what's the target area gave him on 480 passes?

[Heath]

25.

[Dave]

Okay, so that's still 120. That's still not bad. And I, I'll take the over on that. I don't think it's gonna be 150.

[Heath]

I mean, I got him at 125. And then the other thing is like Aaron Rodgers has not been good for three years. He's averaged the same yards per attempt since the start of the 22 season as Mason Rudolph. Like actually worse. They were the same last year. I don't. This is the worst quarterback DK Metcalf has ever gone into a season with. Regardless of whether Aaron Rodgers signs with the Steelers or not, it's the only.

[Adam]

Time he's been the clear alpha number one though, right? He's always had a running mate and a good running mate. So look, obviously it's better for him than it was yesterday, right? I mean he's. You've moved him up. I moved him up, but not as high as I'm willing to move him up, obviously.

[Heath]

And Dave was 100. Hit the nail on the head from wide receiver 24 to wide receiver 40. There is a one point per game difference in my projections.

[Adam]

Okay, Dave and Jamie, where are you guys putting DK Metcalf?

[Jamie]

I put Metcalf, he was like 36. I moved him up about 10 spots and I put Pickens right behind him.

[Dave]

DK's 24th for me. Moved him ahead of Coralin Sutton, Travis Hunter, Chris Godwin, Jameson Williams. It does feel like I'm draft ranking him pretty close to a ceiling at 24, so. But Arthur's out right now and I moved Pickens down literally yesterday and I'm not sure how much he'll move up. He'll be at best a low end, number three receiver.

[Heath]

Arthur Smith in six seasons has had one top 20 wide receiver and he's had A.J. brown and Prime. Calvin Ridley who played five games but was the really good. And Drake London and George Pickens. DK Metcalf has had one top 20 season in six seasons.

[Jamie]

To be fair, Arthur Smith also had Ryan Tannehill and Matt Ryan at the end of his career and, and he's.

[Heath]

Hoping, hoping desperately they could say sign the same guy.

[Jamie]

Yeah, I'm not, I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just saying like, it's not like he's had the greatest of quarterbacks. I, I think, you know, you're going to either come out on this with your feelings on Metcalf either if you're buying what Adam is selling, that this is a Rogers favorite guy and he's going to do what he does with all of his favorite guys. He's also been in situations where the offense coordinator has been someone he's controlled. We'll see if that's the case in this situation. If he's going to be controlling Arthur Smith or Arthur Smith is going to be controlling him. I would assume, I would assume with Mike Tomlin there, it's going to be a, you know, you're, you're running what we want to run. Not that they're going to mention, but you know that that's probably a little bit more of a controlling situation from the coach and coordinator as comparatively to what Rogers has been used to, it's going to be a fascinating thing. I think taking him around three is a huge mistake.

[Adam]

Oh, no, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I was thinking, I think you're getting him.

[Jamie]

Like for me, round five is the sweet spot for, for, for Metcalf and Pickens is like round six of the earliest.

[Adam]

No, I think that taking him around three would be drafting Metcalf at his ceiling. I think he could return that value though. And like, I didn't give him really any chance of doing that before this trade, but he'd be someone that I would be looking to target in late round four, if not a little earlier. Like I think, I think right when between him and Devonte Smith would be a tough call for me.

[Jamie]

It's funny because yesterday we're in the middle of the dynasty league that Heath runs the rookie draft and I was actually offered metcalf for pick 110, which I turned down because I, I, you know, had other needs. I took Caleb Johnson. That's what prior to getting the. I think I was. I don't know if I was on the clock yet or not, but I was. It was going to be debating Matthew golden versus George Pickens because that's the way I thought the draft was going to go. And just based on how my team is, I have a little buyer's remorse now. You know, just knowing that Metcalf situation improved a lot.

[Adam]

Well, you know, like, I got a comment here from the chat. It says, I think this makes Pickens a lock top 24 with potential to be the waddle Devonte Smith type of producer and get close to top 12.

[Heath]

You should draft Dak Prescott.

[Adam]

Yeah, you should draft a lot of Dak Prescott. I don't think we have it but, but I think if people feel like he's a good receiver, that's you know, going to be the number two on a, on a very good offense, a very good passing offense. Then I understand, I understand there are going to be a lot of different opinions on this and question is, like, how good is George Pickens? I give you all those per route things, but he has never been a guy that has shown he can consistently be good. He can have a really good five game stretch, but he's mercurial. He's, you know, he's got not, I don't want to say off the field, but he's got some mental hurdles that he has to overcome. And, and also, Dak Prescott had some worrying signs last year. He stopped running and he took a lot of sacks and he's coming off a hamstring injury. So he's 32. Is he slowing down? You know, there's so much to this and I honestly think we could do about an hour on it, but we're not going to. We're going to take a break and we're going to come back with a lot of games. Before we do that, did anybody move or will anybody consider moving CD Lamb.

[Dave]

Yes.

[Jamie]

Down one spot. So he was two. Now he's three.

[Dave]

CD Lamb significantly from three, he is.

[Heath]

Two and he will stay two.

[Adam]

Significantly to what, Dave?

[Dave]

Maybe five, six.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Dave]

Because the track record when Dallas has had that second wide receiver, you have to go back to 20, 21 to find it. He was not even averaging 15 points per game. Now, we can argue that CD Lamb is not the same receiver.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Now. That he was then. But you could also argue that George Pickens isn't quite exactly the same type of receiver that Amari Cooper was then. And there will be some sort of target crunch. I don't think he's getting 10 targets per game. I'm not even sure if he's going to get nine targets per game.

[Heath]

Yeah, I, I did not. And this Dave, if, if Dave's right, I'm gonna be way too high on land. But I did not affect, I did not change CD Lamb's target share. I just think, like, one of these guys is an alpha. One of these guys is not.

[Adam]

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[Heath]

Drake London.

[Adam]

There you go. Thank you. Drake London. Isn't it amazing that Drake London was the number four wide receiver overall last year? I think he was like 15th per game or something, but it kind of tells you a lot of injuries at wide receiver. Pretty weak year for the number four receiver, but he was number four.

[Heath]

I had no idea.

[Adam]

Yeah. All right. Heath gets round one. I number two. I will be 30 years old in October. I was a top 15 wide receiver in 2024. My best finish ever. My Yak would make. Adam yak. I had zero catches on zero targets in week seven. And then I was a top ten wide receiver from week eight on. I lost in the first round of the playoffs. The NFL playoffs. And I had a rookie quarterback. Huh?

[Dave]

Dave D.J. moore.

[Adam]

D.J. moore did not go to the playoffs.

[Heath]

Terry McLaurin.

[Adam]

He went to the NFC championship game. I had a rookie quarterback, went to the first round of the playoffs. Top 15 receiver was amazing from week eight on.

[Heath]

Cortland.

[Adam]

Cortland Heath wins. Damn that player. Good job. We have a third round that's supposed.

[Jamie]

To be a lot of guess after you guess.

[Dave]

Yeah, like how many could I just run down the list of?

[Heath]

I think Adam said two guesses.

[Adam]

You get two wrong guesses. Heath only had one wrong guess. He wins. Oh, wait a second. The third one is worth triple the points. All right, let's go. Where David, Jamie are back in the game. All right, last name that player. I was QB 13 per game. I was third in yards per attempt but 19th in touchdown rate. I went from nine rushing yards per game to 21.5 rushing yards per game. I scored 25 or more fantasy points in six point per passing touchdown leagues in six of my last 10 games.

[Heath]

Justin Herbert.

[Adam]

I helped Adam beat Heath in the podcast league with 36.3 fantasy points in week 17.

[Dave]

It's Purdy.

[Adam]

It is Purdy. Brock Purdy with that big game against the Lions in the fantasy championship. Oh man. All right, Dave, give me a quick fantasy take on Brock Purdy.

[Dave]

First of all, I have to admit that I totally cheated on that one. Second of all, I think Brock.

[Adam]

Fantasy take. Jamie, can you give me a fantasy take on Brock Purdy?

[Jamie]

What a cheater.

[Dave]

That's right.

[Jamie]

I think you know, similar to what Dave and and Heath agreed with this on the wide receivers that there's a large group from 26 through 40. There's a large group of quarterbacks from basically QB. I'll say QB7 because I think Mahomes should be QB6. But QB7 through like 15 and he's in that group. Look, he, he's got a lot of moving parts right now. McCaffrey back Iuk probably out, you know, Jennings and Piersol as the top duo. Hopefully an improved offensive line from the way last year ended. You know, a lot of that has to do with Trent Williams and hopefully he's 100. So I think he's going to be one of the best quarterbacks to wait for on draft day and still be, you know, top 10 caliber quarterback. But I don't know if he has top five upside. He, he's shown it. I just don't know how much I'll show it consistently. So he's, he's, he's one of my favorite late round quarterbacks to target this year. I did put that price got ahead of him. I think there's a little bit more upside with that. But Purdy is, you know, in that same conversation as one of those guys you can get in QB 7 through, you know, 15 and be comfortable with sneak peek.

[Heath]

He will be replacing Deck. Got in my sleepers article. Nice as a top quarterback for me.

[Adam]

Dave, how did you cheat?

[Dave]

I'm not telling you.

[Adam]

I do appreciate your honesty, though. All right, he fakes round one, takes the first game. 2 for Heath, 0 for Jamie, and negative 10 for Dave. All right, we are on to Fantasy Feud. We got Gibby, Heath, Give me Dave for the first round. Wide receivers with 10 or more touchdown catches. The top seven answers are on the board.

[Heath]

Mike Evans, Heath.

[Adam]

You didn't buzz in, but that's fine. Mike Evans is the number four answer.

[Dave]

Are we supposed to be buzzing in or not? Yeah, because in the last game, we didn't have to buzz in, and I was buzzing in, and now we have to buzz in.

[Heath]

Well, yeah, we're supposed to buzz in, but not look up the answer on our computers. It's two very different rules.

[Adam]

Yes, you buzz in on the. On the first question, and then you pass or play. But, Dave, you have a chance to get the number one, two, or three answer. Actually, wait, hold on. There could be a tie. So I have to pull this up here. Wide receivers. Wide receivers. No, you're good. It's your turn. Wide receivers with 10 or more touchdown catches.

[Dave]

Jamar Chase definitely had more than 10. I don't know if he had more than Mike Evans, though.

[Adam]

He had 17 to lead all wide receivers. You get the number one answer. Pass or play.

[Dave]

I'm passing.

[Adam]

Remember? There are seven. Sure, yeah. I would play.

[Heath]

Sounds like a fun one to play, Dave.

[Adam]

All right, Heath, two answers are off the board. Jamar Chase, number one. Mike Evans, number four. We need five more wide receivers with 10 or more touchdowns.

[Heath]

Justin Jefferson.

[Adam]

Yes. Correct. He had 10.

[Heath]

T. Higgins.

[Adam]

Correct. He had 10. Okay, three left. You've got Chase, Evans, Higgins, and Jefferson, Amanoire, St. Brown. Hey, he had 12. There are two left. And, guys, please, no looking. In fact, chat. Can you stop? Chat. Stop. Okay. No, Dave, don't look at the chat. Dave's looking at the chat. Terry McLaurin is correct. He's number two with 13. That gives us one more wide receiver with 10 or more touchdowns.

[Heath]

Can you give me the. I'm sorry. Can you please just give me the list of the guys that I've guessed correctly?

[Adam]

Chase, McLaurin, St. Brown, Evans, Higgins, Jefferson.

[Heath]

That didn't really help that much. Brian Thomas.

[Adam]

Oh, my gosh. You crushed it. Did you look at the chat? No, I don't trust Dave not to cheat. This is the problem here.

[Dave]

Good.

[Heath]

The one guy who told you he.

[Dave]

Cheated some game anymore.

[Adam]

I. I don't trust okay, Heath. Heath, you're on fire. You got them all. Chase, McLaren, St. Brown, Evans, Higgins, Jefferson, Brian, Thomas Jr. They all had 10 or more touchdown catches. All right, give me Heath, give me Jamie. We've got the top five answers on the board. I'm looking for the tight end leaders. Top five tight ends in yards per route run.

[Heath]

Heath, Heath, Tucker Craft.

[Adam]

I like that guess, but it is incorrect. Jamie. Top five tight ends and yards per route run.

[Jamie]

Brock Powers.

[Adam]

He is number four. Passer play pass.

[Heath]

George Kittle.

[Adam]

George Kittle's number one.

[Heath]

Okay. Trey McBride, number three.

[Adam]

You got the easy ones.

[Heath]

Yeah, I'm. I'm just staring at the desk so I don't get accused of cheating.

[Adam]

Good.

[Heath]

Yards per route run for tight ends. I really have almost no idea. But how about John O. Smith, number five? Okay, who's left? Whatever one left.

[Adam]

I'll tell you who's left. It's.

[Heath]

No, I've got. We got Kittle, Bowers, McBride and John. Who are the top or four?

[Adam]

Yeah, you're looking for number two here. Number two in yards per route run among tight ends.

[Heath]

Man, I have literally no idea.

[Adam]

3.

[Heath]

David Najoku.

[Dave]

That was gonna be my guess.

[Heath]

It wasn't Tucker Craft.

[Adam]

Five.

[Heath]

Four, TJ Hawkinson.

[Adam]

All right, one more guess. Jamie's got a rack his brain. Try to steal top five tight ends and yards per outrun. Number one is Kittle. Number three, McBride. Number four, Bowers. Number five, John Smith. Who is number.

[Heath]

I guess I'll choose the one that I would feel dumbest if it was right. Sam Laporta.

[Adam]

All right, Jamie, can you steal from Heath or is he's going to win again.

[Jamie]

He's probably going again. I'm going to. This is a terrible guess, but Isaiah.

[Adam]

Likely not a bad guess. It is actually Dallas Goddard. Mr. Efficiency. Dallas Goddard is number two among tight ends in yards per out run. All right, give me. Oh, Heath wins. Give me Dave. Give me jb. I'm leaving Heath off of this one. I don't think he'd be very good at this category. Top 5 non Mission Impossible. Tom Cruise movies according to Rotten Tomatoes.

[Dave]

Jerry Maguire.

[Adam]

All right, so Dave, you have to say your name. You are wrong. Jerry Maguire. Somehow some way is not on this list. Top five non Mission.

[Heath]

I was in the top five sports movies.

[Adam]

Jv. What's your guess?

[Jamie]

What's the category?

[Adam]

The. The highest rated Tom Cruise movies that are not in the Mission Impossible series Because like almost all of the Top Gun. Yeah, Top Gun.

[Heath]

Which one?

[Dave]

How is Top Gun not top five?

[Adam]

All Right. Keep guessing.

[Heath]

I've got a couple guesses that I.

[Dave]

Picked Jerry Maguire when it should have been Top Gun, and it's not Top Gun.

[Adam]

Either of you could guess Top Gun is not in the top five. Jerry Maguire is not in the top five.

[Jamie]

Top five according to Rotten Tomatoes.

[Adam]

Yeah, it's the highest rated ones.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Risky Business.

[Adam]

Risky Business is number two. Oh, I'm just gonna let Dave choose. Pass or play.

[Dave]

I don't know if I can name five other Tom Cruise. Oh, maybe I could. I'm still passing.

[Adam]

Okay, jv, we've got number two, Risky Business. What are the other top five non Mission Impossible Tom Cruise movies according to Rotten Tomatoes? It's a good, good guess, Dave. Rain man is number five.

[Dave]

What is that?

[Jamie]

We're gonna ask a question. Are they action movies or non action movies?

[Heath]

Oh, wait, they can.

[Adam]

I mean, they could be action movies. They just are not Mission Impossible.

[Jamie]

Not Mission Impossible. Days of Thunder.

[Heath]

Another sports movie.

[Adam]

I don't even know that movie.

[Jamie]

He's a NASCAR driver.

[Adam]

No, I don't know that.

[Jamie]

Vanilla Sky.

[Adam]

I like that guess. That's a good guess. Incorrect.

[Jamie]

I don't know.

[Adam]

All right, Dave, you got a chance to steal. Heath is just bursting out of his seat there.

[Dave]

I. I would imagine a Few Good Men would be at the top of the list.

[Adam]

A great guess. This is a terrible list. I don't know what's wrong with people. All right, he's. Go ahead.

[Heath]

That was. I thought that was obvious, but I would say cocktail.

[Adam]

Cocktail. You guys think cocktail is going to be on this list? No. All right, number four.

[Dave]

I had a cocktail. Right now with the way this game's going.

[Adam]

Number five, Rain Man. Did you guys say that one? I forget.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah, Jamie said that one.

[Adam]

Number four, Minority Report.

[Jamie]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam]

Number three, Edge of Tomorrow. Never seen.

[Jamie]

I like that movie.

[Adam]

Number two, Risky Business. Also never seen it. And number. I know, right? I know. I know. Number one, Top Gun, Maverick.

[Jamie]

That's horrible.

[Adam]

Yeah, it's a Top Gun. Maverick is definitely better than Top Gun, but it is not the best non.

[Jamie]

Oh, for you not to give us the. The yes on that is ridiculous.

[Adam]

I completely disagree. Heath, you agree with me, right? I'm not giving them. They said Top Gun. They did not say Top Gun. Maverick.

[Heath]

When he said. Said Top Gun, I asked for a clarification. Which one?

[Adam]

You shouldn't have even done that.

[Heath]

You assumed. I think you should have asked him. I think you assumed it was the old one because, you know, he likes the old one more. But I think you should have asked him old or new.

[Adam]

No. You either say Top Gun, you say Top Gun. Maverick. If you said best Arnold movie and I say Terminator, I'm wrong. It's Terminator 2. Like you don't get. You don't get the. I don't get to follow up with the. Which. Which one?

[Jamie]

Yeah. Okay.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Jamie]

Great games.

[Adam]

Heath wins again. One more game. Fantasy Cops after this. Yeah, one more game and then Fantasy Cops. To be clear, after this break on fantasy football today, this episode is brought to you by Chevy Silverado. When it's time for you to ditch the blacktop and head off road, do it in a truck that says no to nothing. The Chevy Silverado Trail boss get the rugged capability of its Z71 suspension and 2 inch factory lift, plus impressive torque and towing capacity thanks to an available Duramax 3 liter turbo diesel engine. Where other trucks call it quits, you'll just be getting started. Visit chevy.com to learn more.

[Dave]

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[Adam]

Buzz balls just dropped their biggest blue balls.

[Dave]

Script says biggies blue balls.

[Adam]

Lonzo take 13 blue balls just dropped their biggest buzz balls. Let's try a vocal exercise. Buzz balls. Biggies. Blue balls. Buzz balls. Biggies. Balls. Big balls. Just drop. Get blue balls this season with buzz balls. Available in Spirit, wine and malt 15.

[Heath]

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[Adam]

All right, we are back with our last game and it is who had more. Who had more is usually who has more, but we're not in season right now. So who had more? Anyone? Please feel free to answer.

[Heath]

Actually, do we need to say our name?

[Adam]

I feel like everyone should guess. Everyone should guess and we'll just tally up the answers. All right?

[Heath]

Okay.

[Adam]

All right. Who had more carries inside the five yard line? James Cook or Josh Allen? And we are going to go Heath, Dave. Jamie for this one. We'll alternate the order here, but who had more carries inside the five yard line? James Cook or Josh Allen?

[Heath]

I will go with Alan.

[Adam]

Dave.

[Dave]

Allen.

[Adam]

Allen.

[Dave]

Al.

[Adam]

Jamie Cook. Jamie gets the point. James Cook had more 13 to 10. But he only had 48 of his team's carries inside the five yard line, which is not. Which is very low compared to a guy like Kyron Williams. 83, Josh Jacobs. 73, Derek Henry. 95 of his team's carries inside the five yard line. Jamie gets point. Dave. Jamie Heath will go in that order for this one. Who had more carries inside the five yard line? Jalen Hurts or Saquon Barkley?

[Dave]

Hurts Hurts.

[Heath]

I'll go. Hurts.

[Adam]

It is hurts. 18 to 13. Jalen hurts. Jalen hurts. Had, I think the third most behind Kyron and Henry. Who had more carries of 20 or more yards? Jamie Heath. Dave. That's not the. It's not between you guys. Who had more carries of 20 or more yards? Jordan Mason or Aaron Jones?

[Jamie]

Jordan Mason.

[Heath]

I'll agree. Mason.

[Adam]

I'll say Jones and Jamie and Heath get the point. It is Jordan Mason and it wasn't even close. Nine to three. Jordan Mason had nine carries in like half a season of 20 or more yards. How about that? Who's your favorite handcuff or second fiddle in a backfield this year?

[Jamie]

I struggle with three of them. It's Charbonnet, Garendo and Mason. And currently Garendo's the my favorite. But I tend to gravitate toward Jordan Mason a lot.

[Heath]

I think the difficulty in answering that question is determining who's the second fiddle in about 17 different backfields.

[Adam]

Okay, well, we won't go through all those backfields. Let's get back to the amazing game. Who had more rushing touchdowns, Xavier Worthy or Isaiah Pacheco? And we're at Heath, Dave, Jamie for this one. Who had more? Russia.

[Heath]

I'll go Worthy.

[Dave]

Worthy.

[Jamie]

I'll say Pacheco. Just be different.

[Adam]

No, Jamie, you're giving away your advantage because Heath and Dave get the point. Xavier Worthy, three rushing touchdowns, Isaiah Pacheco, one rushing touchdown. All right, as it stands right now, Jamie has two, Heath has two, Dave has one. Actually.

[Heath]

Correct.

[Adam]

Jamie. Jamie and Heath have three, Dave has two. So.

[Heath]

Yeah, that's right.

[Adam]

You all got the Hertz Barkley one.

[Heath]

I was definitely keeping score over here because I knew you were going to mess the score up.

[Adam]

Well, I. I got the margins right. I just forgot about the one where you all got it right. All right, Dave, then Jamie, then Heath. Who had more PPR fantasy points? Tyreek Hill or John Smith?

[Jamie]

Johnny Tyreek Jonu.

[Adam]

Dave and Heath get the point. It was John who? Smith. He had about 6 more PPR fantasy points than Tyreek Hill. All right, updated score. Jamie and Dave had three, Heath has four. Right?

[Heath]

That's correct.

[Adam]

Okay, Jamie, then Heath, then Dave. Who had more touchdown catches? Malik Neighbors or Rashad Bateman?

[Heath]

Bateman.

[Adam]

Heath with his wax on, wax off technique there.

[Dave]

I will. I. I will say neighbors just to try and get in the lead.

[Adam]

And you made a silly mistake because it is Bateman. And now you are farther away from the lead. So Heath gets. Heath has. All right, what's the score?

[Heath]

Five for five for me, four for Jamie, three for Dave.

[Adam]

Okay, who had more rushing yards, Lamar Jackson or Jaden Daniels? And it's Heath again, right? Heath. Dave. Jamie.

[Jamie]

Yep.

[Heath]

I'll go. Jaden, Daniels.

[Dave]

Daniels.

[Jamie]

Omar.

[Adam]

JB with the Point. Lamar Jackson, 915. Jaden Daniels, 891. Your top two quarterback rushers. All right, so are we tied here?

[Heath]

We are tied with Dave two points back.

[Adam]

All right, so Dave is out. You can still play, but you go. First Dave, then Jamie, then Heath. Who has more wins as of as of today? The Cincinnati Bengals from last year or the Chicago White Sox through 36 games? Who has more wins, the Bengals in 2024 or the Chicago White Sox through 36 games? Dave.

[Dave]

I'm not playing.

[Adam]

Okay, Jamie.

[Jamie]

The White Sox.

[Heath]

Bengals.

[Adam]

Jamie wins. The White Sox, 10 wins. The Bengals, nine wins in 2024. The Bengals were the only team with exactly nine wins last year. And congratulations to the White Sox.

[Jamie]

You've beat the stupid White Sox. Last night started Sean Burke in one of our leagues had the lead through six.

[Dave]

Yep.

[Jamie]

And they blew it.

[Adam]

Did you see how they blew it?

[Jamie]

No.

[Adam]

There was a pop up in the ninth inning to the second baseman, and I can relate because, you know, I'm E.4 pop up to the second baseman. It hit him in the head. He just missed. It hit him right on the head.

[Heath]

It was okay.

[Adam]

Yeah. It was. So White Sox. It was. Wow. By the way, these NBA playoffs are insane. The Pacers. What was crazier, the Pacers or the Nuggets? I don't even know. I think probably the Pacers. The Pacers, they were down 7 with a minute left or something. I was. I saw this stat. I'll just read it. It's from.

[Jamie]

He's better be. Heath better be working on boxing out of the free throw line tonight.

[Adam]

Yeah. This is from Jamal Collier, who cites ESPN research. Since 1997, 98 teams are 3 and 1640 when trailing by seven or more points in the final minute of the fourth quarter or overtime. 3 and 1640. The Pacers this postseason have two of those three wins. Unbelievable. Okay. All right, guys, let's finish the show with something awesome. The Fantasy Cops. Okay. He's the one you had.

[Heath]

We had actually a. A comment that I thought was a good transition.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Heath]

From the game to the Fantasy Cups. Adam needs to set clear and concise rules for these games ahead of time, the way a good commissioner would.

[Adam]

I mean, I mostly do. It's like a couple of rules that I makeup on the fly.

[Heath]

I just thought we could Transition from your hosting to your commission.

[Adam]

Jeez, I don't want to talk about that.

[Jamie]

But listen, when the rookie draft.

[Adam]

Did you read the one from Camo Heath Bunce?

[Heath]

I don't. I don't think so. No.

[Adam]

Okay, so let's start it over. My name is Camo and I am currently in a 12 team dynasty league. Full PPR. Our commissioner has been busy and somewhat MIA since the end of last season. A lot of the guys in the league have been bugging him to set our draft order for the upcoming rookie draft. Okay, wait a second. I thought you read a fantasy cops on your show that you thought may be in today's notes. But what you were saying earlier, Heath, is that I am a terrible commissioner and you were making fun of me and my commissioners. Okay, well, that means all four of these fantasy cops are going to be new and unique. So that's good news. Our commissioner has been busy and somewhat MIA since the end of last season. A lot of the guys in the league have been bugging him to set our draft order for the upcoming rookie draft. He finally did, and our league has been in an uproar. The order he originally published is currently set based off of last season standings in reverse order. However, a few of the league mates reminded us that we had a discussion last season to change the rookie draft order for the bottom six teams, picks one through six to max points to alleviate any future tanking issues. A couple of our league members, including myself, went back and forth in our chat debating on draft order and how it should be set. After a good bit of commotion, our commissioner decided to change our draft order to reflect reflect maximum points. Excuse me, maximum points. And abandon the reverse standings. I had a few problems with this ruling for a couple reasons. Firstly, our bylaws clearly state that a majority of seven must vote on an issue to pass a new rule or that rule would be tabled for a later discussion. One manager looked at our chat history from before the season and saw that a few league mates voted to adjust the rules to max points. And the commissioner said at the time that he was going to implement the rule in the upcoming season to stop any teams from tanking. Fast forward to now. Our commissioner said he trusted his decision that he made over a year ago and that's why he stuck with it. Despite not having an official vote to change the rule. Only four league managers voted in the poll, which is not enough. According to our bylaws, based on reverse standings, I would have the second pick, but in max points, I would have the sixth pick, on the other hand, the main league mate pushing the commissioner to change for max points would move from the sixth pick to the second pick. At this moment, the commissioner has stated that max points will stand screwing me in our upcoming draft. However, after speaking with the league, we decided to let the fantasy cops make the ruling and set the precedent. Should we roll with the non democracy decision to change to max points for rookie draft order or should we have an official vote to decide? And if we should vote, does it apply moving forward or to this past season? Do I need to re explain anything or. We have it.

[Dave]

Let me just make sure I've got it right. The options for us are to either change the rule to something that didn't have a majority or let it go to vote again so that it does get a majority.

[Heath]

So when you say it may not.

[Jamie]

When you say re explain, is it have to be top gun Maverick or just Top Gun?

[Adam]

You're not, you're so wrong about that.

[Heath]

We should first find some, some common ground. Like one of, one of the bedrocks of a commissioner's duty for a dynasty league is to be able, without controversy and without confusion, quickly and orderly establish the order of the draft and show that order to the league and then not open a draft room with a completely different order and completely different distribution of picks. And so I think any commissioner that does that should be severely penalized up to and including losing his commissioner privileges.

[Adam]

If you want to be the commissioner, please, by all means you could be the commissioner. But no. All right, so listen, they're either going to do for the first six picks, they're either going to do reverse order of the standings or they're going to do highest win percentage gets the first pick because that was implemented to avoid tanking. The problem is the rule was implemented without seven votes to pass the rule. But I, I look at it like the commissioner said he was going to do it before the 2024 season started. Right? So manager, no majority vote with that.

[Heath]

You got to ask if anybody else wants to be commissioner.

[Adam]

No, we don't have like, we don't have to kick people out of the commissioner role for every little issue that there is.

[Heath]

It's not a little issue. He, he said that you for a rule change to happen, this have to happen. He then changed the rule and didn't follow the procedure.

[Adam]

Yeah, he made a mistake so he doesn't have to lose his commissionership. I mean guys, so harsh. Anyway, what do you guys talk about.

[Dave]

You again, I would say take it to Vote again.

[Heath]

I'd probably have a vote.

[Dave]

Oh, yeah.

[Jamie]

Yes. Just vote again.

[Adam]

Yeah, but do you vote?

[Heath]

I never did vote. Right. They just had a conversation in the chat about it. I don't think they've held any votes.

[Adam]

A few league mates voted to adjust the rule to max points, and then the commissioner said he was going to implement it. Only four league managers voted in the poll. Right. So it was like it was.

[Heath]

That is the problem.

[Adam]

Yeah. It was brought up for a vote. The man, the commissioner, thought, okay, this is a good idea. I'm going to implement it. I don't really have a problem with that. That, you know, like, you got to go back. Did anybody put up a stink when the commissioner. This is what I would say. Did anybody put up a stink when the commissioner implemented the rule before the 2024 season, or are you just putting up a stink now because you're getting screwed? I, I, you know, I think it should stand. I think it should be max points. I think that there was a vote. Four people voted in the poll. There was some. There was support for it. If there wasn't a blowback, a pushback on it before the season started, and then the commissioner implemented it and nobody said anything then, I think it should be max points. Personally, I think now it sounds a little bit like sour grapes to me. Anyone feeling that, take the vote again.

[Jamie]

So I'm gonna guess Maverick.

[Adam]

Stop.

[Heath]

I'm gonna guess 6 to 8 of the people who didn't vote beforehand had no idea this whole conversation took place, because they only look at the league website when the commissioner messages them and tells them it's time to do something.

[Adam]

I can't believe you.

[Jamie]

Like what? I can't believe you. Like older Maverick versus younger Maverick.

[Adam]

Like Top Gun Mavericks. So much better than the Top Gun and Rotten Tomatoes proves it. But I would say that, look, you got to go back and you got to see the circumstances here. But if there's no. It's not clear, then I guess vote again. But if you vote again, do you vote and implement it now or for next year?

[Jamie]

Dallas Goddard agreed to a contract restructuring. He's staying in Philadelphia.

[Adam]

Oh. It's a pretty big deal. All right. Do you. Do you vote for 2024 or 2025 or. Maybe I'm the only one who should answer this. I don't think you can vote now.

[Heath]

I've already given my answer.

[Adam]

Which is what?

[Heath]

Have a vote if you want to change a rule.

[Adam]

Yeah, but do you do it for 2020, for this season or for next season?

[Heath]

For any rule you want to change, I would say no rule has been changed because we don't have any rule that seven people have voted for.

[Adam]

I think it's gotta be for next season. There's too much. There's. There's too much at stake right now. Like, you decide. No, I'm the only one answering this question. Apparently, you just. I already answered the question. But. But, like, what you're gonna. Like.

[Heath]

Obviously, people like my answer. It's not that I'm not answering. You just don't like my answer.

[Adam]

No, I don't. I don't mind your answer at all. I just. You're going to vote now to implement a rule for this upcoming draft. Obviously, people are so biased at this point. Right. They're going to just that you like.

[Jamie]

The football game on the beach better than the volleyball game. I don't get it.

[Adam]

It's that you get.

[Heath]

Volleyball game was one of the worst pieces of cinema ever created.

[Adam]

Dave, what's your take on this? Sorry, Repeat your.

[Heath]

I think they played on a badminton knit.

[Dave]

There's two votes to be made.

[Adam]

Okay?

[Dave]

The first one is, are we going to vote on this changing in 2025 or 2026? And then the second vote is, do we do max points or standings? You get every person in the league on the horn and you say, listen, you got to vote for.

[Jamie]

Quit the league immediately. If that was the case.

[Adam]

Why.

[Dave]

Why would you quit the league immediately?

[Jamie]

I don't want to talk to anybody. Just make the rule.

[Adam]

I'm kind of okay with the commissioner just doing what he thinks is best, but that's another option here. But. So the second problem is that if.

[Dave]

The commissioner just does what he thinks is best now, he could do it again, and you might be unhappy with that. And the best way to just be a commissioner is to let it be a democracy. And if you want to abstain from voting, if you're like, Jamie, you don't care, you don't want to pick up the phone, then abstain. But then don't complain.

[Jamie]

Which death was tougher, Gooses or Icemans?

[Adam]

Gooses.

[Heath]

No spoilers.

[Adam]

Yeah, seriously, not long enough. All right. This is from Rob W. Sorry we couldn't be more helpful. You got a few different options there.

[Dave]

To go with the most proper answer you could possibly give to that ridiculous question.

[Adam]

All right, Rob W. From the land of. I don't know how to pronounce that, so I'm not gonna say it. Startup Dynasty, Super Flex, Salary League. I was. Okay, whatever the chat. I joined a League. The chat was full of the usual fantasy trash talk. Fun until someone said that we need to cut it out. Unknown to me, one of the members asked the Commission if his 12 year old son can join and run a team. No one told the rest of the league. Now, anytime someone does read this one.

[Heath]

On the Dynasty show.

[Adam]

You did. Did you really? Yeah. Okay. All right, I'll read it again. Anytime someone does any playful trash talking creates a clever, inappropriate team name, etc, the dad chimes in and has the commish erase the comments and tell the owner to change their name. This year he even changed my team name without telling me. You didn't say the name of the team? You didn't say the team name, did you?

[Heath]

I did not.

[Adam]

Okay, good. But it's pretty. You know it's inappropriate. To make things worse, when we run our rookie and free agent drafts, we have to pause it for half the day while the kid goes to school and early at night when it's his bedtime. Not to mention the potential for collusion because what dad wouldn't help their son succeed? I really want to hear Heath's favorite line of kick him out of the league. Also, the dad keeps trying to high road us by, but what kind of dad lets his 12 year old play in a high dollar league with other grown men, some of which he doesn't even know? A bit ironic if you ask me. So what should we do? Should we be allowed to have the fun that all fantasy leagues have with trash talking, stupid team names, etc. Or is the commish allowed to silence us all and censor everything that's fun about being in a league with friends because of the kid he allowed to join without telling us. Love the show. Been listening since the Nando days.

[Jamie]

They shall make a time to get on a phone call. Discuss this.

[Adam]

Jamie's not full of helpful advice today, I guess. With the fan.

[Jamie]

No, I. I mean, look, if. If the rest of the league wants the kid out of it, then it sucks for the kid, but he's got to get out of league. Find somebody else. Replace.

[Adam]

Yeah, I think you know how some.

[Dave]

Movies are rated PG and some are rated R? Maybe some fantasy leagues should be rated R and you shouldn't have young people in them. Like, what was the rating on Top Gun? Maverick?

[Adam]

I don't know.

[Heath]

Adam, which is your favorite? Ghostbusters.

[Adam]

Ghostbusters too. You know this.

[Dave]

Oh, it's the worst one.

[Heath]

Where do you think. Where do you think it ranks on? Rotten Tomatoes?

[Adam]

In what? The Ghostbusters? Yeah.

[Heath]

There's five Ghostbusters movies.

[Adam]

If it's not second, then I never go into Rotten Tomatoes again.

[Heath]

It's number four.

[Adam]

Yeah, give me a freaking break. That movie is so funny. It is on all the time because people love it. Yeah, it's.

[Dave]

No, it's on all the time because people recognize Bill Murray and they'll.

[Adam]

People love that movie. It's great.

[Dave]

No one laughs at Ghostbusters.

[Adam]

Oh, it's so funny. Come on. The scene where Rick Moranis runs into the coffee table. Oh, hilarious. Oh, just laughing right now.

[Dave]

High comedy.

[Adam]

So you guys want the 12 year old out of the league? Heath, what did you recommend? Yesterday or whenever?

[Heath]

Yeah, that was basically what I said. I think. It's not just the, the, the fun that everybody wants to have and the dad's apparent trying to kill a fun, which is a dad's job, but it's also that. Like this for a more I remember from the email is a money, money league with not a small amount of money. And I've never seen a better case for collusion than a dad helping his 12 year old son with his fantasy team in a league that we're all playing for money.

[Adam]

Yeah, I think. I'm sorry, he's got to go. All right, next one is from Jeff. Any town you want to pick in Minnesota.

[Dave]

Dave Minotaur.

[Adam]

Okay. I run a 12 team dynasty league. The bylaws of almost all of my leagues he runs several have activity rules the state that you must. They state that you must respond to all trades and if you are found to be inactive for two weeks, you can be replaced. I also say in the document that if you're going to take a break from dynasty or whatever that you need to tell me. Well, I had this happen and after a trade offer and several tags, this manager didn't respond. But it showed that he read the message and saw the trade. A month passed. I replaced him. Two weeks later he asked if he has been booted out. I said yes for inactivity. Two weeks after that, he goes into a prior year's league chat and raises a stink about it. Half the league starts yelling at me. I buckle, I break. I tell the replacement owner he understands and I bring back the old manager. Of course it's weird vibes now. Also in the bylaws, if you trade a future first or second, you must pay for that year. So the manager who originally got kicked out had paid for 2025. But in the bylaws I do specifically say there are no refunds. Anyway, this guy is back and he's happy. The league seems appeased. Am I a bad commish? Am I evil? Did I do the right thing? Should I have kept this manager out of the league? Fantasy Cops is my most favorite segment ever. So I was kind of excited to post a story for the Cops. What do you guys think? How did he commish here? Jeff.

[Dave]

I'm, I'm deferring to Heath on this one because I know that Heath has experience running a dynasty league where there are people who aren't very active.

[Heath]

Like it depends on. I think if you're going to make a rule like this, then you need to plan on being an extremely active commissioner and reaching out to people. If somebody like, somebody doesn't respond for a couple of weeks, life happens. Let's, let's reach out to the guy and find out why before we kick him out of the league.

[Jamie]

Kindler. Gentler. Heath. Cummings.

[Adam]

Yeah, I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta, you gotta be like, hey, listen, I'm kicking. I'm about to kick you out. All right, last one. This is from Danny from a city with an MLS team, Portland. Hi, Dave, Chris, Nate and Taylor. Dave, I'm looking at you, Dave, Chris, Nate and Taylor. I've got another confession to make. It's the Foo Fighters. All right, I have a Fantasy Cops question. Football edition. I play in a fantasy soccer league using players from the English Premier League. Most of the time, these soccer teams play once a week and we have weekly head to head matchups just like we would in fantasy football. Occasionally, however, teams play twice in a week, which obviously could present a huge advantage for managers who have players who get two games instead of just one. To combat this, we set a rule years ago. When a player plays multiple games in a single game week period, only the highest score achieved by that player in a single game. From that, a set of multiple games will be counted as part of that team's overall score that game week period. So we're currently in the playoffs and I had a player with a double game week, but he was suspended for his team's first game of the week. In the second game, he put up negative seven points. While it's uncommon for players to score negative points in our league, it's certainly not of heard of, unheard of and happens more frequently than in football. My question is, should I receive zero for the suspended game or negative seven for the game? The only game that he actually appeared in. The difference here is the difference between me winning and moving on to the next round or Getting eliminated from the playoffs.

[Dave]

It's the negative set.

[Jamie]

I have one very important question. Does the rest of his league also listen to our show?

[Adam]

I don't know, but if this is about Top Gun Maverick, I don't really.

[Jamie]

No. Because if the rest of the league doesn't listen to a show, we should favor in the person that's writing to us about another sport and helped out our listener. If it's like, oh, our whole fantasy league listens to your show, but we also play in a fancy soccer question. A fancy soccer league, then, you know, we should be a little bit more diligent.

[Adam]

Wow. I don't love your. I don't love your morals today. I don't love it.

[Heath]

I think there's an obvious.

[Adam]

My morals? Yeah, I gave you a legitimate answer.

[Jamie]

And you hazer, started your own game.

[Adam]

You gave the wrong answer or anything. You said a different movie. I don't love anyone's morals today except Heath.

[Heath]

I think there's an obvious answer. I believe the term fantasy league in soccer is nil, which represents zero, which also represents the number of soccer questions we should take on this show.

[Adam]

No, this is a great. This is the best one we've had. This is a great question. And I think the answer is you get the negative 7. You don't get like, he was suspended. He didn't play. You get the negative 7.

[Dave]

Right. In fantasy sports, you never start the player who suspended for a game.

[Adam]

Yeah, this is great. This is a great question.

[Dave]

One game, it's minus seven points. I'm sorry that it's your team.

[Adam]

Okay, so you have two votes for negative seven, one for nil and one for. We're going to manipulate the answer depending on how many people from your league are listening to this. So. But, Jamie, what would be your answer if they were all listening?

[Jamie]

Pete Mitchell is the best pilot I've ever seen.

[Adam]

Okay. And that's it.

[Heath]

I think. I think Jamie's lost that loving feeling.

[Adam]

Yeah, I think so. That's it for fantasy football today. Thank you, everybody for watching and listening. We appreciate it. We will talk to you tomorrow with another edition of fft. Have a good one. Hey, everybody. I'm Kate Scott and I've got some good news for you. Kicking it is back for season two. I'm going to be sitting down with the biggest names and personalities in and around the world of soccer. No squad script, no filters, just real conversation. You can catch Kicking it on the CBS Sports Galasso network or Paramount plus, and be sure to follow and download wherever you get your podcasts.