Guys Heath HATES! Players To Avoid When Drafting Dynasty (Fantasy Football Dynasty Podcast)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Fantasy Football Today
Episode: "Guys Heath HATES! Players To Avoid When Drafting Dynasty"
Release Date: June 21, 2025

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Introduction and Guest Appearance

In this engaging episode of Fantasy Football Today, host Heath Cummings delves into the often-controversial topic of undervalued players in dynasty leagues. Joined by recurring guest Kevin Coleman, the duo explores the rationale behind their "Guys Heath HATES," highlighting players they believe are overpriced or not worth the investment in dynasty drafts.

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Understanding Dynasty Drafting Concerns

Heath begins by clarifying that his disdain for certain players is purely based on fantasy football valuations and not personal feelings. He emphasizes the importance of strategic drafting, especially in dynasty formats where long-term value is crucial.

Heath Cummings [04:02]: "Just because I have somebody on a bust list doesn't mean I think they're terrible. Let's have some fun today with guys I hate."

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Insights on Future Rookie Classes (2026-2028)

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around upcoming rookie classes and their potential impact on dynasty drafts.

• 2026 Class: Kevin expresses skepticism, particularly about the quarterback position, citing players like Drew All and Leonard Sellers. He predicts uncertainty around the 2026 class's strength.

  Kevin Coleman [07:56]: "The 26 class is a big, giant question mark right now. The quarterback position could be a landmine."

• 2027 Class: Contrastingly, the 2027 class appears promising, especially with a deep pool of wide receivers such as Jeremiah Smith (Ohio State) and Ryan Williams (Alabama). Kevin highlights the potential value increase for this class.

  Kevin Coleman [08:30]: "The 27 class is deep at wide receiver, which is a cornerstone in Dynasty. These picks are going to increase in value."

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"Guys Heath Hates" – Players To Avoid in Dynasty

Heath and Kevin meticulously analyze several players they deem overpriced or risky for dynasty drafts. Below are the key players discussed:

1. Saquon Barkley (RB)

• Overview: Despite a phenomenal last season, Barkley's value is questioned due to his age and injury history.

  Kevin Coleman [10:34]: "He’s just way too overpriced for the position he plays."

2. Brandon Aiyuk (WR)

• Overview: Valued at WR31 consensus but Heath places him at WR44. Concerns revolve around limited targets and offensive inconsistencies.

  Heath Cummings [16:54]: "It’s a low volume and not a concentrated target tree in San Francisco."

3. Terry McLaurin (WR)

• Overview: At WR34 in personal rankings, McLaurin faces age-related decline and potential touchdown regression.

  Heath Cummings [20:15]: "The age cliff is real. He turns 30, and nobody wants you."

4. Evan Ingram (TE)

• Overview: Currently TE12, Ingram's performance is hindered by a strong Denver defense and competition from emerging tight ends.

  Heath Cummings [22:10]: "He turns 31 before the season starts and hasn't scored more than four touchdowns since 2017."

5. C.J. Stroud (QB)

• Overview: Despite being QB7 in consensus, Heath rates him at QB12, citing lackluster fantasy output and offensive line issues.

  Kevin Coleman [26:31]: "He's amazing on the field, but his fantasy output doesn't help you win."

6. James Cook (RB)

• Overview: Rated RB41, Cook's role as a committee back with touchdown regression prospects makes him a risky pick.

  Heath Cummings [28:30]: "RB10 seems a little high for me. I prefer rookies over Cook."

7. Garrett Wilson (WR)

• Overview: Once valued as a top-tier wide receiver, Wilson's recent performances and offensive uncertainties have lowered his dynasty value to WR30.

  Kevin Coleman [32:10]: "He’s in the best offensive scheme he’s ever played in, which gives me hope."

8. DJ Moore (WR)

• Overview: Moore's struggles with the Chicago offense and personal performance dips result in a lower valuation at WR30.

  Heath Cummings [34:11]: "The vibes I'm getting from Chicago are not promising for DJ Moore."

9. Mark Andrews (TE)

• Overview: Once a top tight end, Andrews faces diminished usage and competition within a robust Baltimore defense, placing him at TE8.

  Kevin Coleman [37:09]: "He’s not elite anymore. His target share isn't what it used to be."

10. Justin Herbert (QB)

• Overview: Although Herbert is a skilled passer, his fantasy output doesn't justify a QB7 ranking. Heath rates him at QB12, emphasizing the static offensive scheme limiting his potential.

  Heath Cummings [40:37]: "He’s amazing on the field, but he doesn't put up fantasy points."

11. Baker Mayfield (QB)

• Overview: Currently QB15, Mayfield is viewed at QB21 by Heath due to inconsistent performance and potential regression.

  Kevin Coleman [43:22]: "He should be a little higher, but Dak Prescott might take that spot instead."

12. Isaiah Pacheco (RB)

• Overview: At RB28 consensus and RB41 personal ranking, Pacheco lacks a consistent role, making him a risky dynasty pick.

  Kevin Coleman [46:26]: "He's a dead asset to me all around."

13. Tyrone Tracy (RB)

• Overview: Ranked RB29, Tracy's unclear role and potential competition within the Chiefs' backfield lower his dynasty value.

  Heath Cummings [49:17]: "His role is just confused, making it hard to plug him into your roster."

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Strategies for Managing Overpriced Assets

Heath and Kevin discuss potential strategies for dealing with these "hated" players:

• Trading Overpriced Players: Convert high-cost assets into valuable draft picks or other players.

  Kevin Coleman [15:56]: "If he's being priced at Dynasty running back four, I don't mind shipping him now."

• Focusing on Rookie Value: Emphasize drafting players from promising rookie classes (e.g., 2027 WRs) to maximize long-term value.

  Kevin Coleman [09:44]: "If you can get some of them now, they're just going to increase in value."

• Pivoting to Emerging Talent: Shift focus to younger, undervalued players with higher upside to build a competitive roster.

  Heath Cummings [20:15]: "If you’ve got him and you’re a contender, you could probably plug in wide receiver two numbers and be happy."

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Conclusion and Guest Promotion

As the episode wraps up, Heath reiterates the importance of evaluating player value based on long-term dynasty potential rather than immediate performance. He also provides a platform for Kevin Coleman to promote his Substack and YouTube channel, The De Royale, encouraging listeners to engage and subscribe for more in-depth dynasty football insights.

Kevin Coleman [51:09]: "Check us out on Substack and YouTube. Dive in and see if you like it."

Heath thanks the listeners, acknowledges the production team, and signs off until the next episode.

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Key Takeaways

• Evaluate Long-Term Value: In dynasty leagues, focus on players who offer sustained performance rather than short-term gains.
• Monitor Rookie Classes: Stay ahead by scouting promising rookies, especially from deep classes like 2027.
• Manage Overpriced Assets: Be proactive in trading or releasing players who no longer provide value.
• Stay Informed: Utilize resources like Substack and YouTube channels dedicated to dynasty football to enhance your strategy.

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This episode serves as a crucial guide for fantasy football enthusiasts aiming to refine their dynasty draft strategies by identifying and avoiding overvalued players, thereby optimizing their long-term team performance.

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Welcome to Fantasy Football today, Dynasty. I am your host, Heath Cummings, joined today by Kevin Coleman. And today we're talking about Guys I Hate. I will explain that more in a little bit, but first, Kevin, thank you so much for being here. You've been on the show before, but it's always great to have you tell the people where they can find your work and what you've got going on these days.

[Kevin Coleman]

Yeah, man, I appreciate you having me. I love coming in here in the summer as my summer's off and, you know, about a year ago we went independent, so we used to work at football guys where you were from, and in fantasy pros is where we worked at. And we start our own little brand on substack and on YouTube and it's called the de Royale. It basically covers everything, Dynasty, Redraft, Debbie, which we'll probably get into a little bit. And we've been going strong for about a year. We just crossed a thousand subs on Substack last week, so that's really exciting for us and it's been a lot of fun.

[Heath Cummings]

You know, I. I can't imagine the kind of. The thrill of. Of doing that, starting your own thing and. And probably also some of the challenges as well. I'm sure it's not all a positive experience, but it sounds like, I mean, just kind of watching from afar, you. You've really been building something. So congratulations on that. Looking forward to seeing where it's going. And, you know, real quick, just tell people, like, if they want to be a part of it, like what specifically they should go search for and where.

[Kevin Coleman]

Yeah, you can just type in the W sub substack and then it'll pop up and you can join there. We do have a Patreon that offers a bunch of other stuff that you can find. So the De Royale Patreon, if you want to just go to the YouTube channel, we do YouTube videos as well. It's called the de YouTube. So it. It just type it in Google, you'll find us. Or you can follow me on Twitter @ the boys underscore 22. And if you want to ask any questions, I can help you out there.

[Heath Cummings]

So, listen, I think Harry did a fantastic job. We already had a couple comments in the chat. That thumbnail is nothing short of incredible. Amazing thumbnail. It's me, apparently, looking like I hate something. Good job, Harry. He's the guy who makes this all work, and we're very appreciative of him. I do want to say at the start, because you guys know me, you've been listening to this show long enough. Like, I'm. There's a little tongue in cheek here. I, I've said probably a million times, just because I have somebody on a bust list doesn't mean I think they're terrible. Just because I think somebody's overvalued in Dynasty doesn't mean I hate them. Let's have some fun today with guys I hate. Of course, we always start with three questions for our guest, and you kind of heard it in, in the title of, of Kevin's substack and his YouTube show, Debbie. So I, I, I think we've got a lot of people here who love Dynasty fantasy football and haven't quite dipped their toe into the world of devi. So maybe just take a minute and tell people what Debbie is and how and why they should get involved.

[Kevin Coleman]

Yeah. It was created by Scott Fish, the OG of everything, and Scott Fishbowl there, he started it. Really. It's just Debbie is just a little bit of a steroids dynasty. A little bit on steroids. Just a little bit. It's a little taste for you. And all you do is you draft college kids. So if you like baseball, it's like a farm system, and, and so you can add college players into your Dynasty rookie drafts or your startup drafts, however you want to do it. And, like, then you just draft them, and then they're tradable assets now. So you want to draft Arch Manning, you can draft Arch Manning this year, and then you have him and you can trade him for other Dynasty players. So it just gives you, like, a little fun, like a real general manager type feel there. The best way to get started, though, is just do one round of it and just see if you like it. Like I always say, just do one round at the end of your rookie drafts and then just add one class of players. So you want next year's class if they're eligible to come out next year, and then you draft them and you see how it goes. And I think it's, it's fun. It gets way deeper than that, and we don't have time for that. But it's just the start of it. Scott Fish kind of created it. He's amazing. And it just kind of has evolved from there.

[Heath Cummings]

So really, I think it's good for people to hear that. It could be just as simple as creating another spot on your practice squad, adding a spot to your rookie draft, and just having a guy that you stash until he comes into the NFL and then you can get, as you said, much, much deeper. I hear of people who have full rosters of just college players, and I, you know, that leads into the second question, because I get the question a lot. In the months after the rookie draft's over or the NFL drafts over, people have done their rookie drafts and of course, what do they want to do? They want to think about the next rookie draft. And I always tell people, like, I'm really honest. Most of my rookie research for a given draft class starts about the time of wild card weekend. And then I just cram because with, with everything I do during the season here, I don't have time to follow a lot of college football. Thankfully, we've got someone like Kevin who does. And so I had a question in my mailbag last week that says, what class are you most excited about? Or what rookie picks are you Most excited about? 2026, 2027, or 2028? And, and my general response was that as a rule, I always start off next year's picks are the most valuable. To the, to me, the following year is about half price and the following year is about half price, but different classes are, like, more valuable. Do you have any feelings right now about the future rookie draft classes and which ones are going to be deeper or weaker?

[Kevin Coleman]

Yeah, I would say the 26 class is a big, giant question mark right now. So everybody listening out there, the one position that I think could be a landmine is maybe quarterback. There's still a lot of quarterbacks out there. Question marks. Drew all or Lenora Sellers, you're talking K club. Nick, you're talking Arch Manning. But I think he's coming out in 2027 based on what his family says. And so, like, that's the one position in 26 class where I'm like, hey, they could have some guys there. But outside of that, it's, it's, it's pretty barren. But the 27 class, it could be absolutely loaded. Heath, like I'm telling you, like the wide receivers you talk about. Jeremiah Smith from Ohio State, Cam Coleman from Auburn, Ryan Williams from Alabama, the list goes on. Plus, Arch Manning can come out that year. DJ Lagway is at Florida. He's a quarterback out there. He's really good. Running backs are still kind of in flux right now, so we haven't seen that. But if there is some running backs that hit, you're talking about the 27 classes being one of the. You remember the 23 class. Everybody talks about the 23 class. That's really what you see with the 27. But I think the kicker here is the 27 class is deep at wide receiver, which we know in Dynasty. That's the. That's the cornerstone. Right? And so that's going to inflate the value even more. And so that's why I tell people all the time, like, if it's going to inflate the value, they don't really have to hit. It's just about the value of the pick. So if the value of the pick's going up, you can get legitimate guys from a veteran side to go win your leagues too. So, like, there's a flip side to this. But the 27 class is one of the most fun classes I've looked at. I mean, I was going through doing a rookie mock right now for the YouTube channel and the 27 class, like, I think we picked eight wide receivers in the first round and that's how deep that class is. And there's guys that haven't even hit yet that we don't know. So that's the most exciting. Class 26 has some question marks. I would definitely flip those for veterans if I'm a contender. I really have been going out and be actively doing that. But the 27th picks, man, they're gold. And if you can get some of them now, they're just going to increase in value.

[Heath Cummings]

So are you to the point now? I mean, I think in a rebuild, it's easy to say this, but if you're just kind of a middle of the road team, not sure what direction you're going, and somebody offers you a first round pick for a player or you're still doing your rookie draft now and they're throwing in a first to move up. Would you just flat out rather take the 2027 pick than the 26 pick?

[Kevin Coleman]

Yes. Yeah. 100. Because I think from a value perspective, Dynasty's a weird. It's a. It's a mental game with guys and managers out there. And just from that perspective, that class is only going to go up. And as soon as Arch decides to go back to school next year, it's gonna. That that value pick is gonna be through the roof. It might be the most valuable pick we've seen in this format in a long time.

[Heath Cummings]

That's awesome. Awesome stuff. So go get those 2027 first round picks, question number three, and I guess it's four because I asked a follow up, but is there one Dynasty vet that you think is way overpriced right now?

[Kevin Coleman]

I'm gonna get some hate on this one, but it's Saquon. It's Saquon Barkley. And it's not. I love Saquon. Everybody out there listening, like, obviously he had a phenomenal year last year, but it's just a value time bomb. And Dynasty at the running back spot that. So there's. Of the top 50 dynasty assets right now, there's only 10 running backs, you know who's older than 26? Saquon. That's it. There's only one player older than 26 in the top 50 assets. And we've already seen this happen with CMC. Like, we saw him get injured. We've seen the kind of the value drop there. And now he's going for seconds. And as much as I love Saquon to have him on your Dynasty and he might be that asset, you just hold on, right? You're like, hey, he's gonna be the Travis Kelsey of the running backs, where I'm just gonna hold on to him because he gives me a positional advantage. I do think that, like, at this point, max value, if he's still being priced at Dynasty running back four, I don't mind shipping him now, like tearing down, getting down to those running backs, those rookies that you see out there, the travions, if you like, RJ Harvey, if you like those players, and then getting assets. Like I said, the 27 first or the 26 first or whatever you could add to it. But to me, it's just, I. I understand, you know, with Saquon's talent, Derek Henry, we've seen these guys kind of age, but we have seen Barkley get injured. Like, last year was kind of an outlier in terms of what he's been the last three or four. And to me, he's just way too overpriced for the position he plays.

[Heath Cummings]

I love that because I've got a list of like 13 guys that I'm gonna say that I hate after the break. And you picked the guy who's worth more than all of them.

[Kevin Coleman]

So if there's anybody that gets hate, you're welcome.

[Heath Cummings]

That's a good friend, providing cover like that. Let's take our first break and we'll get into guys I hate.

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[Heath Cummings]

Man, we get a lot of cool promos that run during our breaks, but nothing more exciting than hey, we're close enough to football season that we're going to start advertising football games. That's fantastic. It's going to be a long wait. We had a comment in the chat. Hate is a strong word, Heath. Again, it's tongue in cheek. You guys are the ones that say that I hate these guys because I'm too low on them in Dynasty. Let's talk and start with some I I call it old news because I've spent most of the off season at least some of these guys. I've been lower than consensus for a couple of years. 3, 4 guys Brian Robinson Jr currently RB26 by consensus rankings I used Fantasy Pro's consensus to kind of establish where the consensus is at. I have him at RB40. I I get really I have a hard time valuing these guys that that I don't think are actually feature backs or have anything really close to top 12 upside and also feel like they could lose all their value this season and that's kind of how I view Brian Robinson. RB40 is awfully low, but there's a lot of rookies in this class that I like. Where are you at on Brian Robinson?

[Kevin Coleman]

Yeah, he's a tough one because he's not efficient right? The Efficiency is so bad that you're like, man. Because like when I was going through the numbers with him ranked 35th in yards per touch last year, 37 yards after contact per attempt. Not great. He does get the goal line touches. So really he just becomes that an inefficient goal line vulture type guy. But I think Jaden Daniels hurts that for him. Like I think we saw that a little bit last year and in the injuries, you know, I think one of those things, just the durability is a question mark too. Doesn't offer much in the receiving game. I know Jacori Merrick's. Oh gosh, I'm gonna forget cross. Yeah. Crossing merit. Like, I know he's getting buzz. I don't know what that means in OTAs, but he is getting buzzed. So like if he becomes that receiving maybe guy back there, it's just, I hate inefficient running back. Two low ceiling guys at game script dependent. Like they just, they, they are, they worry, they worry me a lot. So I don't mind the ranking. I think he is, he should be a little lower out there, but he does get goal line touches. So it's not like it's a dead horse when you do talk about him as a dynasty asset. It's just someone that if I can pivot off of him, I would. I agree. I think he's a, he's a tough asset to value.

[Heath Cummings]

I mean, I think there's a pretty good chance you can get a second round pick for him if you still have a rookie draft this year and you might be able to throw a 2026 along with him and pick up one of those 2027 firsts that Kevin talked about. And so, or, or just try to go to a guy like I would even prefer someone like Travis Etienne who everybody's convinced has already lost his job to Patial Tutin. But at least if Travis ETN has a role, it's a type of role with his PPR ability that he could give you some upside. I just don't see that upside with Brian Robinson. Let's go to the second guy on this list. It's Brandon Ayuk. And it's, it's not anything about his talent. I have him at wide receiver 44 consensus at wide receiver 31. It's the fact, and we've talked about this before, I'll be quick on these guys because I've talked about them a lot. We've really only seen one great season from Auk. He's now going to be 27 years old, I think before he's fully healthy and we don't know what this year is going to look like. It's just, it's a, it's a low volume and not concentrated target tree in San Francisco and he seems like he's never quite happy there and he's certainly not healthy right now. Are you buying low on this injury for Ayuk?

[Kevin Coleman]

So this is a. To me, I've been. So somehow I've been, I've been scooping up by you this year. So like I've been slowly scooping them up. But to me this is just a value play, not so much of like a fantasy points play. And that might sound like just counter intuitive there, but I do think that like he might have a slow start to the year, but all the injury guys out there that I trust, they seem to think he could start week one like they do think that like he's on track, he's faster there. But even then, like let's say he comes back weeks five to eight kind of slow player. He probably had dipped down a little bit. But people forget how you was getting valued at what wide receiver nine. Last off season, like ten.

[Heath Cummings]

Very, very high. I was low on him then too. It was easier to be low on them though.

[Kevin Coleman]

I think I remember you. I think we were talking about him and you were low on him too. So like if you're in your camp, yeah, absolutely. You'd be like, well, I'm not going to buy him now. But if my camp, if I'm looking at it from this perspective, if he's sitting at wide receiver 31, the season starts, he doesn't start or whatever the case may be, he might go down a little bit. But as soon as he gets out there and let's say has a couple big games, I mean people are going to value him instantly as a wide receiver too, right in that offense. Depending on what's going on with McCaffrey and KD's getting a little older. Do you believe in Jennings and Pearsall? I don't know. But if IUK demands targets right away, then you get a return on that investment. Right now it's a risky investment. Like it's one of those things that you're looking at like, yeah, but he could also just be slow playing all year. Then he's unhappy. They trade him. Like there's definitely possibilities on the other way. I'm just buying that the talent can come back where he is. Talent enough to earn those targets down the Stretch and then he gives you a valuable, like, piece. Right. An asset that you can either move, you can hold if you want. Like, to me, he's sitting in that perfect range where I don't mind taking the risk and the value.

[Heath Cummings]

Right now I. I think that really depends on cost because you definitely bring up a good point that buying players that you think are really good, that are currently hurt is generally a good value proposition because we just probably need one good game from Brandon Iuk for people who believe in him to believe that he's back and pay whatever the price was before. Would you. Would you trade a first for him right now?

[Kevin Coleman]

I would trade a 26 first, maybe like a late first if I'm like a true contender. And I think he can bounce back. But that's probably higher than most. But he's not really going. I mean, some deals he's going for straight up for Jaden Reed. I don't mind taking a you side there. And in another deal, I saw Jalen Wright in a third. Oh, man, I'll take out you called.

[Heath Cummings]

Day and I would definitely take him at that cost. Yes. I don't think. I'm not sure you're Getting wide receiver 31Value if you're trading him for Jalen. Right in the third. Yeah, but yeah, 100 buying there. Let's get to guy number three, Terry McClure and Brian Robinson Junior's teammate. He's wide receiver 23 in the consensus rankings. Wide receiver 34 for me. Another guy that I've been low on for a long time. I've said it 17 times this off season already. Like, Jaden Daniels is great. And Jaden Daniels did help him score touchdowns last year. But that's the only thing that changed. The, the targets were down, the catches were right where they've always been. The yards were right where they've always been. He just scored at a 13 clip instead of scoring at a 4% clip like he had his entire career. And this is a guy who turns 30 September 15, so eight days after the season starts, if my math is correct. I don't want to value that as a wide receiver, too. And I think there's likely touchdown regression coming.

[Kevin Coleman]

Yeah, I mean, I put on here. I mean, he averaged four and a half touchdowns his first four years. Right. And then now all of a sudden 13. So the regression's there. I don't know about Debo. Like, I saw the route. I think he's still running that route that I saw on social media the other day. Like, I Know, like there's something there. But they're gonna scheme touches for Debo at some point. I mean, they gave up what they gave up to get in there. I do think like the red zone trust with Daniels is something like I do think we'll see touchdowns, but I think that regression is going to be there to me, like, if he's gonna value a wide receiver 23, when I'm looking at Terry, like, I don't mind having him on my roster. Like if you have him and you're a contender, like you could probably plug in wide receiver two numbers and you'd be pretty happy. But the age cliff is real, right? As soon as they hit 30, nobody wants you. Like, it's just, you know, that was rough for me to find out too as I'm transitioning to 36. But then when I'm looking at like just where you can move him for a perfect piece that I've been trying to move him for is like Rashi Rise. Like if you, depending on what you think of Rashi and where he's at, he's getting value like wide receiver 19 or 20. If you can just tear up a little bit and you can give a second or a third, like whatever you think you can tear up to go get Rashi. If someone doesn't believe in Rasheed or they really believe like Xavier Worthy is going to be that piece and stuff, that's how you look at Terry is a tear up piece. Like if I can add a pick with Terry to get up into that, maybe that 18 to 20 or 16 to 20 range in wide receivers. That's a very good kind of strategy to look at with McLaren.

[Heath Cummings]

I, I think that's an excellent way to look at. And I've talked about this before, like the wide receiver position. You talked about there being nobody over 26 in the top 50 in terms of dynasty value. I have one wide receiver over 26 in my top 24 wide receivers. Like, I, I can't put Terry McLaurin ahead of all those guys at five or six years older than most of them. So it really is an age proposition. And just the fact that I think he is a good number two wide receiver. But you don't value a good number two wide receiver that's 30 years old as a wide receiver too in dynasty. That's not the way that it works. The final guy, I'm not even going to make any qualifications on him. This is probably the guy that I hate the most in terms of Dyn SD rankings and it has nothing to do with him as a personal, as a person. But Evan Ingram is Currently tight end 12 in the consensus dynasty rankings. A lot of people very excited about him joining Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos also very excited about RJ Harvey catching 80 plus passes because Sean Payton's teams always throw to running backs. And I just like to remind people that generally speaking, a team's running back target targets and a team's tight end targets negatively correlate. Most teams are going to throw 50 to 65% of their passes to their wide receivers. And so you're going to have 35 to 40% for the running backs and tight ends. You don't usually get both. So if you think Evan Ingram is going to have a big year this year and really it's. It would be his first or his second in the last seven, that's the bet you are making. Ingram will turn 31 before the season starts and has not scored more than four touchdowns in a season since 2017. Can you offer some optimism for Evan Ingram like it seems like the entire rest of the industry does so well.

[Kevin Coleman]

The only optimism that people are out there going to do is going to say, well, the Titan position's barren after whatever. You know, we hear it all the time tied in five or six. So if he just scores some touchdowns, you know, he gets those touchdowns on a week in, week out basis, then he's already a tight end. One like that, I think is where the optimism is at for him. I just struggle with Denver because they have a really good defense. Right. And that's gonna, that's one of those things, I think Bo Nix, you know, for as much as like he developed last year and you saw he does target his wide receivers like and, and when you're looking at that room, I think part of it is, you know, you know, Marvin Mims could have a step up. I know a lot of people believe in Mims. Cortland Sutton is one of the most, one of the more underrated guys out there. Like target share everything that could go up to 25 in my opinion. Vale's there. I don't know what people think about him, but like you said, I do think that the running backs are going to eat into Ingram's kind of, you know, usage a little bit. His targets. And there's so many guys out there from just a, from a dynasty perspective that you might be able to pivot to based on their value. I'd rather have John who Smith. If we're going to go old like I'll just go take him from Miami. Like I'll go down there and tear down a little bit. So I don't, I don't hate it, but I also don't trust Sean Payton whatsoever with any of his fantasy assets. Like, we've seen it before with running backs too. That's why I'm not really that high on RJ Harvey. Harvey, excuse me. Because of that. So, like, I guess if you believe in volume that he's gonna get and he's talented still, I guess he's a top eight guy, but I just don't know. I don't believe in that volume. I don't know where that volume is going to come from. I think Bonet's gonna spread it around and I think that it's just going to be, hey, did he score a touchdown this week? Okay, I'm happy with him on my roster.

[Heath Cummings]

I, I think the only reason that Evan Ingram is still considered by fantasy football managers is because he got to spend a few years with Doug Peterson. And that might, might have been the only guy Doug Peterson was good for. But Doug Peterson's great for the tight end position. The other thing I would say is you, you broug about the way people view the tight end position. Like it's, it's a barren wasteland. I know this guy's name, he got a lot of targets in the past. I'm gonna put him in the top 12. I would just say that we need to make sure we're careful that it's a really barren position if you're looking for somebody who could score 12 plus fantasy points per game. But if you're looking for nine to 11, there's probably 18 guys that could do that. So I don't, I don't think you want like, if you're gonna do that, go with a 25 year old who could score 9 to 11 points, not a 31 year old. Now we got a new grouping here. Those were, those were the old news. The guys that I've hated for a while, at least in terms of my rankings. These are the guys I used to love or used to be at least matching consensus on and now I find myself quite a bit lower. CJ Stroud in the consensus fantasy pros ranking still QB8. Now I think he was QB7 or for me a year ago and that was after the fantastic rookie year last year we saw, listen, one of the reasons he was QB7 going into the year is he had Nico Collins, he had Stefan Diggs. We were still excited about Tank Dell because he hadn't had the. The major injury to his leg and Stroud was coming off pretty much only success. Now we've seen some failure. Diggs is gone. Dell's probably not playing this year. He got a couple rookies trying to take their places. And the offensive line looks absolutely awful. I have a hard time valuing him higher than some of the higher upside plays at the position. Is he just a better guy in Super FLE because the floor is better, but not in one qb?

[Kevin Coleman]

Yeah, I mean, what I. My big thing with him and I wrote it down, the notes, safe, floor, cab, ceiling. And I think part of it is that offensive line is a real concern that. You know, they've had 18 different starting offensive linemen the last two years.

[Heath Cummings]

Like that's, you know, who knows that C.J. stroud.

[Kevin Coleman]

Yeah, he does. Because of the way you saw. I mean, I led the sacks and the scrambles that we saw last year, and I think that's what happened last year. So they only had two regular season games with three plus scores. That's the missing piece. If you're not talking about a scrambling quarterback for fantasy, like if you're looking for, you need to score touchdowns. And now I think the one underrated piece that people aren't talking about too much is Nick Kaylee's coming there to call plays. So he's a Patriots Rams guy. So when you're thinking of like, what's that offensive scheme going to look like? You're going to see a much more balanced attack. I think that's why they brought in Chubb. I think mixing in those guys from a running back standpoint, you're going to see a lot of volume there. And then they, historically those, those trees in terms of play calling have a really low adot. Right. So that's going to be looking at like, consistency. Sure. Like he's going to hit his reads, he's going to get those quick reads out, he's going to do those things. But maybe we don't see those big plays anymore. Right. We'll see the occasional Nico Collins bomb. We're going to see that. But I think that's why they went and Char, you know, targeted Jaden Higgins, Noel and Kirk and those type of guys because it's going to be very quick adot, quick outs, those type of reads. And that's great from an NFL perspective, but from a fantasy perspective that really severely caps CJ Stroud. And you'd like we mentioned with the tight end position, the quarterback position too, between 8 and 14 not a lot really dictates those guys in terms of value because I think from a fantasy points per game or an expected fantasy points per game perspective, they're very close. And if they don't rush and they don't have a rushing upside, you can really just wait on QBs and you probably get the same output from those guys.

[Heath Cummings]

Well, I think that's a very good point because like, I don't actually hate CJ Stroud. He's in the same tier as my QB8. But I don't really want to value any of Those guys at QB8. I would rather take the lower cost. So I think if you can up. If you can trade C.J. stroud to somebody else, for somebody else in that queue in that tier and add assets, that's, that's the way to move at the quarterback position. Number two in the guys I used to love hurts more than anybody else on this list, but it's James Cook. I've talked a little bit about this on our, our big show, Kevin, but I was a big James Cook guy last year. He, the breakout happened, but it wasn't in a way that I believed in or the way that I expected. He actually averaged fewer touches per game last year. They chopped it up between three backs. Now he's in at least a miniature contract dispute. And I don't, I've got. There's been no signal from the Bills that they want to change the way they distribute touches at the running back position. So I think we're looking at a true committee with Cook leading and some likely touchdown regression. RB10 just seems a little high for me. And I think when you're comparing and you mentioned the rookies earlier, so it's James Cook versus Hampton versus Henderson versus Harvey versus Judkins. All those guys, I, I prefer three of those rookies over Cook.

[Kevin Coleman]

This is all about what you expect from him. I think this is that because I like James Cook too. Like, I liked him last year. Like, and I was, I was on, I was on your train with him and that was the dream. 2024 is a dream for James Cook because you're like, hey, we got it. We finally hit it. If you look at him as an asset this year, like as like gonna be a running back one, I think that's a mistake. But if you look at a running back too with. You can maybe have the volume with the running back one spikes, that's, that's, that can happen. I think the really, the thing that just stands out to me when I go through his profile this year, you know, he, he only had 239 touches still, like, and even though he scored the touchdowns, he only had four games with 20 plus touches. And you really want to see your draft him as a running back one, which he's currently ranked at. You want to see more than 20 touches a game. You want to see that average go up there. And while he did Finish running back 11 in points per game, he was running back 26 and expected fantasy points. So, you know, whether you believe in expected fantasy points or not, he overachieved. Now, will that regress? I think that's the big thing when you're looking at it. And I think it's always, it's always Josh Allen's gonna vulture those touchdowns too, in the red zone. Like, the rushing upside from him hurts you there. If you, if you look at him, if he's getting price at running back 10, I think that's too high. You should definitely trade, like, if that value is. Then if you value him in your league. But if he's going like, like running back 16, 17, I don't mind buying it again for another year because I do think that he's gonna have a very solid running back too. I don't believe so much in the other running backs behind him. Like, I know there's some very big truthers out there, right, for some of those guys, but I, I think Cook is their best running back. So if I'm valuing that at that price, I don't mind him. Like, I don't hate him. I don't love him. He's kind of in the middle for me, where like, just based on the.

[Heath Cummings]

League'S value, number three on the guys. I used to love Garrett Wilson, and I still have to love him a little bit because he is still my most mastered starting wide receiver. So I'm not like, I've not found the ability to sell Garrett Wilson at what the cost that I see, which is wide receiver 13. And I do. Like, I've, I've hedged on this a little bit because I don't like the way that I'm starting to feel about Garrett Wilson. He's still 24 years old. He turns 25 in July. He's still a very young guy. He's only played three years in the NFL. But it does kind of feel like. And I feel this way about Chris Olave too. He's just valued much lower that we've had expectations for these guys as future top 10 wide receivers. And his ranking at Q at wide receiver 13 suggests that is a future top 10 wide receiver, I think and I hope that he is. But we've seen three seasons now. It kind of looks like he is what he is. And I'm not sure even if there is this big ceiling that we've not seen yet. Justin Fields is the quarterback to get that from him.

[Kevin Coleman]

I know. I love Garrett Wilson so much. Let me give you some positivity here. Like let me throw some positivity stuff in here because he had all my rosters. Me too. So Tanner Ingstrom's coming over as the offensive coordinator there and I do think what they're going to do is they're going to move him in inside his slot more and he's been more efficient there. So when you're looking at his yards per route run for his career, almost 2 yards per out run in the slot as opposed to like 1.5 out wide. So that's good. So I do think if from a, from a, from a standpoint of like offensive system and scheme, this could be the best scheme he's ever played in. Right. It probably is going to be the best game he's ever played in. So that's expectations that could have that ceiling wide receiver rooms. It's gross, you know, really, really bad.

[Heath Cummings]

Although I still have a soft spot in my heart for Josh Reynolds who I loved coming out of college, but Corally Corley Reynolds.

[Kevin Coleman]

I love Xavier Gibson because I thought you were gonna give me return points last year in sfb that didn't happen. But like Wilson's gonna dominate those targets there and I do think the Fields thing. I know Fields is not a great quarterback but he's going to hyper target the heck out of Garrett Wilson, which he did with DJ Moore a couple years ago. And DJ Moore was able to put up realistically wide receiver one number. So.

[Heath Cummings]

Right.

[Kevin Coleman]

I still think he's a top 12 talent and I think that scheme wise we should be very happy with what's coming over there. It's just, it's just it's not really him, it's the QB position. So if we see Fields elevate himself just a little bit, I think he's going to be fine this year. I just think from a dynasty perspective you just get worried because again, what it feels doesn't pan out. Okay. Now they're on another quarterback for the fourth year for Garrett Wilson. I think that's where probably the expectations get a little nerve wracking. But I still think he's in the best game. He's ever played in. So that gives me hope. I still have hope for my boy Garrett Wilson.

[Heath Cummings]

Well, and I want to say, like, those numbers you gave for yards per outrun, very encouraging for the slot usage if we get more of that. But Even so, almost 2 yards per route run is not generally what we're talking about when we're talking about a top 12 wide receiver.

[Kevin Coleman]

I'm just trying to be optimistic. Hey, they could be three. We could get up there. Okay, so let's move on.

[Heath Cummings]

Number four, DJ Moore. Again, I could have said if I'm starting to feel like Garrett Wilson is DJ More early in his career, because there's a lot of similarities there. D.J. moore's wide receiver 25 in the consensus rankings. I'm not too far off of that at wide receiver 30, although I'm getting more nervous just because it doesn't seem like. And I'm reading between the lines here. What else do we have to do in June? But the vibes I'm getting from Chicago are not that Ben Johnson took this job and said, good, I've already got my number one wide receiver, my arsb. And DJ Moore, he doesn't seem like he views him like that at all.

[Kevin Coleman]

No, I think he thinks he got his ARSB with Luther Burden. I really do. Like, I think that's his guy. I know he roams there and everything there. I couldn't be more out on DJ Moore than anybody else. Like, I have not. I've been trying to get off of DJ Moore pretty much all off season. And because. Just because what you said, I think that with Burden, Colston Dunesay, like, that's his system now, and he's gonna be looking at those guys. He's completely boomer bust. But I just don't think. Even last year wasn't very good. 1.44 yards per out run. That was a career low. The vibe meter is not. That's a real thing. The Peter is not good in Chicago right now. I mean, DJ couldn't even, like, I think it was. He couldn't even. He didn't remember who they drafted. Like, there was just. You can just tell. And Moore's already kind of had a diva niche in him. Most wide receivers do. But if that's the case, after this year, they can get out of that contract, and then we're looking at another Deontay Johnson situation, like, where it's now he's bouncing around. Does he find a home? And I think that's a problem. So, like, if I can tear off, like, DJ Moore to me is a value at 2026 first because I think the 2026 first like I talked about a little lower based on value. I don't mind pivoting to a 26 first even if I think it's a less value because I do think you can get other players with that first. That if you're contending like that might be the pivot like go get a 26 first or if someone still believes in more having a good season this year as a wide receiver too, that's a good value for him I think right now in leagues that you can kind of move him for.

[Heath Cummings]

Love that idea. I've got one more name here, Mark Andrews. A guy that I've acquired a last couple of years major disappointment last year that was lessened because he scored so many touchdowns. And there's a way to frame it to say, you know, he just wasn't healthy at the beginning of the year because of the car accident and he got more involved later in the year and he's still okay. I just. He's Currently tight end 8 in the rankings and I'm a little lower on most of the vets. I think you're right. It's just that people look at this tight end position, they don't want to make the bet on the young guy who might be. I'll just try to get one more year out of the old guy who is. He turns 30 the day before the season starts, had 69 targets and did not miss a game last season. I think that there is a possibility the floor could just completely fall out of Mark Andrews value in the first month of the season. And the upside seems like at this point is probably just a mid tight end one.

[Kevin Coleman]

Yeah. Every time I think about drafting Mark Andrews I just remember him dropping that ball in the, in the playoffs and I'm like ah, I can't do it. But I think the numbers, the numbers that stand out to me is if this defense is good it's a problem for Mark Andrews. So he only played 50 of snaps when Baltimore led last year. He said he played 65 or more when they were trailing. But this defense could be dominant again. Look at the Humphrey like there, there is a spot where this defense is just one of the most the best defenses in the NFL. That hurts him and I think as much as I likely to me is not someone that I like think he should be a top 10 asset but I do think they like likely into that role and I think that when you look at him they're going to get some snaps from him. He just, he's not elite anymore. I don't think the 25 target share is going to be there anymore. I think Bateman coming on is something as well. I think Rashad coming in there. Zay, you know when you're looking at what that offensive likes to do, they love scheme touches for Zay. The ADOT's like negative one but they love getting them the football and so I think that hurts Andrews and I just don't know what you can get for Andrews in leagues because I think people thinking just like us, the bottom is like falling out completely. But if I can get any type of draft capital I'm going to do it because I just don't see him being anything like he used to be.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, again, maybe we try to see if we can turn Andrews in a 20:26 second into a 27 first and just be really, really thankful for that. Let's take our second break. We'll get back to a few more guys.

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[Kevin Coleman]

The idea of Justin Herbert is much better than the player of Justin Herbert from fantasy. Like, because like you said, I think he falls in the Stroud category right when you say that tier of like good quarterback, bad fantasy output. So like that's the thing. When I was going through Herbert's numbers, you know, he hasn't finished as a top 10 fantasy QB in the last three years. He just hasn't. Like, he just has not done it. Last year was QB15. So when you're looking at that like imagine what the value would have got not drafted Justin Herbert, but Baker Mayfield, right. Like if you, if you think about how good he did compared to Justin Herbert and how big the value discrepancy was, I mean it's crazy because it's the Roman offense and what they're trying to do there. And then when you're looking at this, this last year, The Chargers ranked 30th and expected fantasy points per game. That's not good from a fantasy aspect. Like, and that's just when you go through what they're trying to build there, it's just running the football. Efficiency is there, sure. And you just see some rushing upside with Herbert there. But I don't, I just don't think the fantasy output equals what his rank should be. And I think it's just, that's where you tear down. I, I don't see Herbert being that asset where he's a QB7. Like that's way too high for me in terms of this. And this is one of those things it's hard to do though, separate the player and how great he is and what he can do on the football field at times and what he output is. And I think that's the hard part from a dynasty manager perspective in his brain, like, oh no, he's amazing player, yes. But he doesn't put up fantasy points. He doesn't help you win.

[Heath Cummings]

And I am like, I, I talk people probably more than some dynasty managers would like just about like what the actual current reality is and what the player has been. And a lot of dynasty managers want to think about man, look, I know this guy's really good. I just want the really good players on my team and we'll figure the rest out. I'm much more okay with that in scenarios where I can see a big change in the near term future. I'm much less okay with that for a guy that's 27 years old, locked into a long term deal with the coaching staff that I don't think is going anywhere or a game plan that's changed coaching. So yeah, if you told me that Justin Herbert was going to be a free agent or that Justin Herbert was going to have a new coaching staff and a new number one wide receiver or number two even then I'd probably feel different about it. But I think he's just kind of locked into this spot. This next one was interesting because it's probably the next tier of quarterbacks and I'm, I'm interested. We don't talk about him on this show hardly at all. It's Baker Mayfield who's currently QB15 in dynasty rankings. I've seen him as high as QB6, ahead of Mahomes in redraft quarterback rankings. He's my QB21. And I think it's interesting if you just think about the guys that are in that group kind of between 15 and 21, you're looking at Dak Prescott, Trevor Lawrence, Jared Goff, JJ McCarthy, Justin Fields, Cam Ward. A real mix of floor and upside and youth and age. Where do you have Mayfield amongst that group?

[Kevin Coleman]

See, we're going to disagree on Mayfield because I do think that he's, he should be a little higher. I think that Dak might be the one. But I'm a Cowboy fan so I have to, I have to tell you guys, like that's a problem for me. But I think Dax, the closer one because I do think from just like what they're gonna do, schematically Dak can finish higher than Baker this year, but I think dad could be a borderline QB1 like QB12ish. But Baker to me, like, you know, last year, I know the 41 touchdowns there, he never eclipse 30, so you're gonna probably see a little bit of regression there. But I love the fact that what he has around him, right, Godwin Evans, I know Godwin's coming off that Irving is another one. They got Igbuka now. I think that McMillan's underrated and I just think from that offense perspective he's gonna throw a lot. I mean when you're looking at the touchdown rate and back to Back seasons maybe can get up to 7% or 6% in that range there. Tampa did shift more to a run rate last year, so you did see kind of inside the five. They did go more with Bucky being there. But even then I think this defense has holes and so you're going to see probably positive game script from Baker from that side of maybe that's for the football. I don't know what that offensive coordinator situation is going to look like that scheme wise. I think they're going to kind of try to keep it the same there. So that would be a concern to me. But I still think from just a volume play in perspective, I think Baker can finish with the QB one again and I'll take that for another year as you're probably QB2 and Super Flex League. So if he's your QB2, that's a pretty high floor to have from your two QB spots.

[Heath Cummings]

No, I think. I think the floor is probably good. And the thing that we don't know yet is how you referenced there's going to be at least a little bit of regression. Yeah, I think I'm a little more concerned that there's a lot of regression. He threw 28 touchdowns the year before in Tampa on four fewer pass attempts. So it was a 4.9% touchdown rate. His career rate of 5% is very good. He's got a 7.2% rate last year. And so like the difference between what he did two years ago and what he did last year's 78 fantasy points. So you're looking at basically four and a half fantasy points per game off what he produced last year. Now that would still be in a CBS league, a standard CBS league. You're still looking at probably 22 fantasy points per game or, or 19 or 18 or 4 points. So that's still really, really good. The other thing is I, I don't. I seem to be a little more concerned about coaching changes on offenses that were really good last year like the Lions and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with these offensive coordinators. The Tampa, at least from the same system though, I think you're, you're definitely closer to consensus on Mayfield and I may just be still holding a little bit of disdain for him for what he did to my DJ mole a couple of years ago.

[Kevin Coleman]

Let's.

[Heath Cummings]

Let's get to the next guy on the list. It's isaiah Pacheco. He's RB28 in the consensus rankings. My RB41, everybody calls me a Chiefs homer. See, I've got a guy I hate that's on the Chiefs. I don't, I feel zero percent confidence that Isaiah Pacheco is ever going to be a feature back like he was for half of the season a couple of years ago for the Chiefs.

[Kevin Coleman]

Yeah, I mean, I don't know why he's so high. Like, I don't know. I, I, I like when I was going through it, I was like, yeah, he is really that I was going through some of the rankings. He's not for me. He's in the 40s for me too. So you and me are on the right page there. I mean, when you're looking at his last six games, well, you watched it. It's under 3.6 yards per carry. He did not look good. Like anytime he touched a football. And really what the Chiefs did last year, as you probably know more than anybody, they just did their short passing game was their run game. Like that's all they did. That was what they looked at because they really looked at like, hey, Pajo's just not doing this for us right now. Elijah Mitchell is going to be a thing. I think people forget that. I think they're going to use him there. I love Rashard Smith. I hate that he went in the seventh round because I hate that draft capital. And I wish from a receiving standpoint he was fantastic when he played receiving at Miami, like he has that from a rushing standpoint at smu, he's just small, but he does have the ability and I think the Chiefs love kids like that. You're going to see that. I think he can maximize space. I think he can do a lot of things that Pacheco can't. So I, I don't know why he's so high. I, I, to me, Pacheco, if he is really truly being valued at that, a running back three, you should move him because I, I just don't see having him, him being even a good asset after next year. Like he's just a dead asset to me all around. I don't think he's going to do enough this year to really be worth anything. Maybe try to find a Chiefs fan and have him trade, trade inform your league like if they, if they believe in them. But I'm out on, on Isaiah Pacheco.

[Heath Cummings]

And we, we did have a couple of questions in the chat about the guys behind him. I think it's like you mentioned the draft capital for Brashard Smith. I love the potential upside for him. I also agree, like you're a seventh round pick, you might get cut you might be on the practice squad. There's no telling Elijah Mitchell. I love the upside of what he did in San Francisco, but I also recognize the contract so small he could get cut. He could end up on IR again like he has several times in his career. Kareem Hunt was unfortunately the Chief's best running back in the second half of last year. Could still get cut, but also might be the goal line back. There's just, I think there's too many little risks and with all those weapons that Mahomes has this year, I think we do see more passing as well from them. The fourth guy, and it's a guy I think I have have I put RB41 for him as well. I think I have him maybe tied with Isaiah Pacheco or one spot behind him. But Tyrone Tracy is RB29 in the consensus rankings. It seems like people are not that scared of Cam Scatter. Boo. I I didn't like the fumbles obviously last year. Coaches hate those more than fantasy analysts do and certainly more than fantasy managers. We just try to ignore them and wish we didn't get negative 2 points for them. But he wasn't an experienced running back coming into the year. I think he's got a dog fight on his hands for touches. He might win that dog fight this year, but he's a day three back who likely has a new coach coming in next year and has significant competition for touches this year. Again, another guy. I just don't know why he's ranked that high.

[Kevin Coleman]

Yeah, you know it's a weird number for Tracy which I couldn't believe because you think of Tracy as being a third down guy. Like okay, hey, he can at least do that role. When I was going through some of the numbers it was weird. So he was only, he was only on the field. He played less than 50 of snaps on third down last year year. So he actually historically was not on the field during third down. So why was that? I think that's the question for me is like okay, if he's not out there, if he was getting first and second down work, well that's going to Cam probably. Cam Scatterbo is probably going to be their early down guy. So then why the heck wasn't he getting the third down work now maybe he will now maybe they look at him as that being that. But that always makes me concerned with a day three kid getting third down work, possibly being a flex option on your dynasty team. Like there's a lot of red flags there for me in terms of that and he's not like, I'm old. So I remember James White for the Patriots. You always could plug him in, you know, flex guy, getting those PPR catches. I don't see that. I know Russell does historically check down to running backs and he does do that, but they might also be more of a throwing team this year. I mean, the ball he wants to throw like he, Brian Tobal loves to throw the football. When you're looking at just, you know, expectations for that. And so if he does open it up more this year, especially with the new weapons and what they have on that roster, especially with Malik Neighbors, maybe that breakout this year, I'm kind of out on Tracy just because I don't, I don't really buy day three Dynasty backs anyway. And even then I think his role is just confused. I don't, I don't know if he has a projected role yet. And that's just going to be hard to plug into your roster every week.

[Heath Cummings]

100 correct. You said it all for me. We had one more question I wanted to get to from earlier in the chat. Jamie says other guys heats hate. Does Adam fall into this category? I love Adam Azer. He's the best male podcast host in, in the industry. Or at least he was once. And we are, we are good friends. We just like to have a lot of fun on the show. We've had a lot of fun today. Kevin, thank you so much for being here. Before we go, tell everybody one more time about the Debbie Royale and how they can get involved.

[Kevin Coleman]

Yeah, so we started this company about a year ago. It's on Substack. We do weekly or daily articles about Debbie Dynasty if you like any of those formats. Also redraft. We'll be doing that during the season. We're going to be doing that. You can find us a YouTube channel at thew.com or at YouTube, but just go check us out. You could be a free sub too. Just dive in and see if you like it. If you have any questions or you want a comp sub. If you watch this and you're like, hey, I'd like a week free. Just DM me on on X if you're still on there at the boys underscore 22 and I give you a comp week.

[Heath Cummings]

Thank you, Kevin. Awesome, awesome stuff. Thank you Harry for making everything work and the fantastic thumbnail. Thank you to everybody who was active in the chat. We will talk to you next Tuesday.

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