Last-Minute League Winners, Start or Sit for Thursday and Friday Games (11/26 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Fantasy Football Today – "Last-Minute League Winners, Start or Sit for Thursday and Friday Games"

CBS Sports FFT • November 26, 2025 • Host: Adam Aizer; Analysts: Heath Cummings, Jamey Eisenberg

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Episode Overview

This Thanksgiving week episode dives deep into must-win territory for fantasy football managers: last-minute potential league winners, start/sit advice for the holiday game slate, and a rapid-fire Q&A on specific players with trade deadlines closing. Adam, Heath, and Jamey lean into the holiday vibes while maintaining sharp, actionable analysis, sorting fantasy facts from wishful thinking as lineups lock for Thanksgiving and Black Friday NFL action.

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Main Topics & Key Insights

1. Fantasy Thanksgiving: Football, Gratitude, and Slate Review

• Thankful for the Rookies:
  • Adam: “I'm thankful for tomorrow's games ... and the Travion Henderson emergence. I'm thankful for all these rookies that said 'be patient' and are now delivering.” (02:24)
• JSN’s Breakout:
  • Heath celebrates Jackson Smith-Njigba’s stunning season: “What JSN is doing is really just remarkable and I can't believe it keeps happening every week.” (03:28)
• Best Thanksgiving Slate Ever?
  • Heath’s research: "Is this the best Thanksgiving slate we've ever had? ... This is the greatest Thanksgiving slate we’ve ever had.” (05:32)
    • Noting every game is playoff-relevant and loaded with star QBs (Mahomes, Lamar, Burrow, Dak, Goff, Love).

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2. Last-Minute League Winners & Schedules to Target

• Heath's 3 RBs on the Rise (06:10–08:03):
  • Travion Henderson (upside RB1):
    • “Rest of season, Henderson may be a top-12 guy with his schedule. ... Giants and Buffalo are 31st and 30th against RBs.”
  • RJ Harvey:
    • “Usage was very good ... schedule is tough but hopefully he catches three balls a game.”
  • Ken Walker:
    • “Usage was great, production wasn’t there—but positive signs.”
• Skill-Position Schedules:
  • Colts, Saints, Giants, and Bucs called out for RB-favored schedules.
  • On Saquon Barkley: "Down the stretch, in terms of run defenses, it couldn't be much better for Barkley." (10:41)
• Tough Schedules to Avoid:
  • Chargers, Washington, and certain Vegas skill players have notably tough match-ups ahead.

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3. Injury/Narrative Updates (News & Notes)

• QB Situations:
  • Joe Burrow says he’ll play regardless of the Bengals’ record; expectation is for a good lineup for Cincy/Baltimore Thursday.
  • Omariyon Hampton designated to return for Chargers; keep tabs on his usability.
• Key Skill Player Notes:
  • DK Metcalf (ankle), Rashid Rice (hamstring), Josh Jacobs (status iffy), notable WR/TE injuries or returns.

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4. Listener Q&A: Facebook Mailbag Highlights

Wide Receivers: Hopes & Frustrations

• Quentin Johnston:
  • Jamie: “Boom/bust WR3 ... you start him if you have to.” (19:50)
  • Adam on Chargers’ offense: “Justin Herbert’s ADOT last two games: 4.7, 3.8 yards – it’s insane.” (20:38)
• Lamar Jackson’s Fantasy ‘Disappearance’:
  • Jamey: "He’s hurt. If you want to bench him based on production, go for it—but I can't see myself doing it with the Bengals up next.” (21:47)
  • Discussion of benching for Brissett or others, risk/reward breakdown.
• Cortland Sutton:
  • “Not droppable yet. Borderline WR2 this week; great matchup. But if he flops, discussion changes.” (24:23)

Trades and Player Values

• Rashee Rice for Rico Dowdle?
  • Adam: "Hell no. ... Rice keeps getting volume; it’s not close." (25:17)

Running Backs Returning from Injury

• Bucky Irving & Omariyon Hampton Rest of Season
  • Jamey: “Treat both as RB2s; upside into RB1 for Bucky. Workload uncertainty first week back, but schedules are juicy.” (28:36–30:41)
  • Adam on Bucky: "Almost certainly a committee, but Bucky's upside is worth the risk." (30:41)

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5. Start/Sit: Thursday & Friday Game Previews

Chiefs at Cowboys – QB Clarity in a Tough Matchup

• Dak Prescott:
  • “Start Dak. I’ve got him QB8, ahead of Burrow and Brissett.” (33:25)
• Patrick Mahomes:
  • Jamey: “Must-start, assuming Rice is fine. Everything points to a bounce-back.”
  • Fun stat: Mahomes' RZ pass attempts/TDs have nose-dived last 3 games.
  • He’s also running less since Rice emerged. (34:53)
• RBs:
  • “Javonte’s the best back here, back-end RB2. Pacheco/Hunt are low-end RB2/flex.” (36:11)
• WRs:
  • “Start Lamb, Pickens, and Rice (if healthy). Bench Worthy unless desperate – upside for a DFS dart.” (37:11–40:07)
• TEs:
  • “Kelsey must-start. Ferguson is low end TE1, but usage has dipped; don’t panic-drop him.” (40:36)
• DSTs: Sit both.

Packers at Lions (Green Bay @ Detroit)

• GB Passing Attack:
  • Adam: “Christian Watson is highest-upside, but WR roulette continues. If Reed's out, Watson/Doubs are WR3/flex plays.” (45:31)
  • Jamey: “Jordan Love still can't be trusted—even with a high Vegas total. Great matchup on paper for DET O and for Jacobs, but expectation is Detroit controls the game.” (46:40, 48:08)
• RBs:
  • Josh Jacobs: “Top 12 if healthy but monitor practice status.” (49:09)
• WRs:
  • “Sit Luke Musgrave; sit Brock Wright. Goff is low-end QB1/2. Both Watson and Doubs are behind Andre Yosivas this week.” (50:00)

Bengals at Ravens (Cincinnati @ Baltimore)

• Burrow’s Return:
  • Jamey: “Low-end starter, hope for upside, but be realistic: Ravens have allowed just 3 TD passes in 6 games.” (54:05)
  • Heath: "Burrow/Nicks/Goff are QB11-13 for me—tiered. Would start Brissett over Burrow, but it's close." (55:56)
• Lamar Jackson:
  • All still start, but monitor the rushing output/injury status.
• Chase Brown:
  • “Lost a little juice with P. Ryan back. Now an RB2, not RB1, but still a good start.” (57:59–59:03)
• WRs:
  • Yosivas: “Upside WR3. Jamie has him 26th, Heath 39th, but if Burrow throws 40+ times, expect volume.” (59:29–60:32)
  • “Chase a must; Zay Flowers a boom/bust WR3.”
• DSTs: Fade Baltimore unless options are limited.

Bears at Eagles (Friday Night)

• Eagles Offense:
  • “Start Hurts, AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith, and Barkley with confidence. Goddard is a sit (ranked outside top 15 TEs)." (64:26–68:21)
  • Adam: “When Hurts does well, so does AJ. But it’s hard to predict.”
• Bears’ Offense:
  • Heath: “Zero must-starts. Only consider D’Ounze or DJ Moore as flexes.” (68:21)
  • Bears RBs: "Easy sits—no clarity, bad matchup."
  • Cole Kmet is a borderline TE1; not excited about usage.
• Rapid-Fire Flexes & Lineup Calls:
  • Jamo vs. Sutton or Neal, Burden vs. Godwin, etc. — mostly favor Bears WRs as desperation.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• "I'm thankful for all these rookies ... they're starting to deliver." — Adam (02:24)
• "This is the greatest Thanksgiving slate we’ve ever had." — Heath (05:32)
• On Rashee Rice for Rico Dowdle trade:
  • Adam: “Hell no. ... Rice keeps getting volume; it’s not close.” (25:17)
• On Bucky Irving’s workload:
  • Jamey: “I think you just treat him like a number two running back because of that potential ... his upside is incredible.” (29:41)
• Lamar vs. Burrow debate:
  • Jamey: “Lamar in prime time—the history is there ... even if he’s hurt, the matchup is too good to sit.” (24:00, 57:21)
• Thanksgiving food debates:
  • Jamie: “I would rather just have, like, a can of green beans ... microwaved.” (73:35)
  • Adam lamenting his unpopular stance: “You are building a case as to why you're a moron.” (53:31)
  • Is Die Hard a Christmas movie? Debated for comic relief.

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Important Timestamps

• 02:24 — What we’re thankful for (rookies, slates, JSN)
• 06:10 — Last-minute league winners, RB targets for waivers/trades
• 14:59 — FFT bracket competition/friendly show banter
• 19:47 — Quentin Johnston, Chargers WRs discussion
• 21:47 — What to do with Lamar Jackson, benching debates
• 24:14 — Cortland Sutton droppable?
• 25:12 — Rashid Rice/Dowdle value debate
• 28:36–30:41 — Bucky Irving, Omariyon Hampton, RB injury returns
• 33:24 — Dak Prescott, Mahomes start/sit
• 36:11 — Running back breakdown: Javonte, Pacheco, Kareem Hunt, Harvey
• 40:36 — Tight end ranks/usage: Kelsey, Ferguson
• 45:31 — Packers WR/DET preview, Love’s likely usage
• 54:05 — Burrow, Lamar, and Cincy/Balt matchup analysis
• 59:29 — Yosivas/CIN WR3 discussion
• 64:26 — Eagles passing offense confidence, Bears skill positions
• 66:37 — Chicago run game, why not starting Barkley vs. Bears is dangerous
• 72:43 — Thanksgiving food: sit one carb/dessert
• 75:06 — Show wrap, show banter, preview of next episode

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Tone & Style

Lively, lighthearted, loaded with actionable insight. Plenty of holiday energy and inside jokes but never losing sight of what matters for fantasy managers: last-second decisions, injury pivots, and maximizing upside in a crucial fantasy week. As ever, the trio blends “buddies talking fantasy” with sharply researched analysis.

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Verdict: Who Should You Start/Sit This Week?

Must-Starts:

• Dak, Mahomes, Hurts, Barkley, Javonte, Jameer Gibbs, AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, Kelsey, Lamb, Ferguson (with caution), Rice.

Risky/Flex-Worthy:

• Bucky Irving (likely committee, high upside), Omariyon Hampton, Cortland Sutton, Christian Watson/Romeo Doubs, Yosivas.

Bench/Pivots:

• Bears RBs, Quentin Johnston (except as a pure desperation flex), Brock Wright, Luke Musgrave, Goddard (borderline), Worthy (unless Rice sits).

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Holiday Nuggets

• Food hot takes: Green bean casserole and stuffing both get slandered; “sweet potato casserole, especially with marshmallows, is a disinvite for Adam.”
• Die Hard as a Christmas movie: Heated repeat of the annual debate.
• Fantasy Football Today’s playoff bracket: Vote to get Adam to streak (jokingly) if they win.

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For More

Catch the Thursday night/Thanksgiving special and check fft.cbssports.com for rankings/updates as injury news drops.

Transcript

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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath.

[B]

What's up? A festive day, Heath. I'm in a good mood. I've got the holiday spirit running through my veins. Good morning, Heath.

[A]

Are we gonna do like Thanksgiving dinner meal or drafts or are we gonna do puns of turkey puns or what we're thankful for what's on. What's on the agenda today?

[B]

Wow, I didn't really think of any of that.

[C]

I.

[B]

I mean, we do have another episode tonight that's going to air on Thanksgiving. But you're right, we really should do it today. I Could definitely do what I'm thankful for. What do you, what are you thankful for from a fantasy standpoint?

[A]

You know, I'm first off, I'm thankful for tomorrow's games because what an outstanding day of football. And I, I'm, I'm thankful for the, the Travion Henderson resurgence or not Resurgence, emergence. I'm thankful for all these rookies that we were like, you know, let's, let's hold on, be patient. And they're, they're starting to deliver.

[B]

Well, we're hoping that they're going to start to deliver because they're starting to deliver. Okay. All right. Yeah. I am thankful for Jackson Smith and Jigba and his historic season. I'm so excited. I'm really.

[A]

What do you mean, really? What like you were the one, two, two years ago and I know Jamie remembers this and thought you it was absurd as I did, you were the guy saying, I hope we don't have a Christian McCaffrey this year because it's no fair when one guy is so much better than everybody else.

[B]

So I do like that. And I would say, let me see how many points he's averaging because he's not like he's averaging 27 points per game. 23.4 is really good.

[C]

Whoa.

[B]

Really good. But it's not McCaffrey, McCaffrey in his prime where he's, you know, basically Ladanian Tomlinson. So I do think we have more parody. The last few years we haven't had that ridiculously out outstanding player. But what JSN is doing is really just remarkable and I can't believe it keeps happening every week. Good morning, Jamie.

[C]

Good morning.

[B]

What are you thankful for from a fantasy perspective?

[C]

You just, you.

[B]

I appreciate that. All right, so listen, I did a Twitter poll yesterday. I said, has your trade deadline passed or can you still make trades? It was almost two thirds exactly said trade deadlines pass. So we're not going to spend much time on that. We'll give you some last minute buy lows or just kind of look at some players that we think could, could thrive down the stretch. We have questions from Facebook, just some general questions about, you know, hot topics or players that are on people's minds. We'll do the news and notes. We're also going to preview four games today, three on Thanksgiving and then the Black Friday game, Chicago at Philadelphia. And Heath, I got to give you credit, man, like, you really did a ton of research and you know, we don't really like reward people when they go out and they. Sorry I'm just full of filibustering here when they do this much research, but you put out a tweet yesterday that was impressive. I'm going to share it now and very thoroughly looked into and it said is this the best Thanksgiving slate we've ever had? Packers Lions features two playoff caliber teams and the loser may be in real danger of missing the playoffs. Chiefs Cowboys is a must win for both teams. Burrow back and a must win for the Bengals and close to the same for the Ravens. Mahomes, Lamar, Burrow, Dak Golf and Love. Phenomenal. And I understand you went through the history of Thanksgiving games and looked at win percentage and playoff probabilities and this is the best slate we've ever had.

[A]

So it actually starts with a question, not an assertion. So it would not I was not saying that it was, I was asking if it was. It's fantastic that we don't have a bad team and as we were talking about beforehand, like we can just eliminate 75% of the Thanksgiving slates from being this good because the Lions for most of the NFL's existence and there's probably a couple of terrible Cowboys games in there as well. I'm sure that this is the greatest Thanksgiving slate we've ever had.

[B]

If you think about it, it really might be all right, let's talk about some last minute Biolos and Heath. We were talking before the show about a few running backs you're excited about.

[A]

Yeah, I think three guys I'm very excited about versus their most recent production and that's Travion Henderson who the usage was Fantastic in Ramandre's first game back and the production was not. It's RJ Harvey. The usage was very good. 61 snapshare in his first game without J.K. dobbins. The production was not Ken Walker. The the usage was very good in that last week and they talked about playing him more but the production necessarily wasn't there. So I think those three guys will all be must start running backs rest of the season and Henderson may be a top 12 guy with his schedule.

[B]

Giants than a buy Buffalo Giants in Buffalo are 31st and 30th against running backs at Baltimore. Could be tough at the jets in week 17. Should be good. That's Trayvon Henderson's schedule. Just got to ask about missing the left side of his offensive line and if you think that's going to hold.

[A]

Him back, it should. Hopefully most of his carries will go outside of the parameters of the offensive line between those holes. Get him on the edge.

[B]

I watched all of his carries from, from the Cincinnati game and it was disappointing because you can't, you know, you got great matchups coming up. Teams that are 31 and 30. The Bengals might be 32 or they're, they're up there. Right. And he struggled against them. I feel like he was pretty close a few times. Pretty close. You can see the burst gets through there and he just, if he had made one guy miss maybe or slipped a tackle, he could have had some big gains. So hopefully it'll happen. The, the Giants are not just the worst run defense in the NFL in terms of yards per carry allowed to running backs. They're allowing a full yard more than the, than the next worst team, which is Buffalo. The Giants are so bad. Harvey's got Washington, which is great at Las Vegas Green Bay, Jacksonville at Kansas City. Harvey has a tough schedule in terms of run defenses, but hopefully catches, you know, at least three balls a game. Jamie, any buy lows? I said it was optional, so if you didn't do your homework, that's fine. It wasn't a sign.

[C]

I mean most, most leagues the trade deadline is done. So I don't think we should spend too much time. No, whatever you had, it was fine.

[B]

Okay. And then. Okay, I'll give you just some, some schedule stuff. Indianapolis has a, has a three really good matchups left. They have Houston this week, which isn't good. They have Seattle in two weeks, not good. But two games against Jacksonville, one against San Francisco and it's especially good for Tyler Warren because Seattle is a good matchup for tight ends. I want to talk about Drake May real quick. Last four games he struggled his 17 game pace in those four games. For Drake May, if you just look at it, he's not running as much but well, he's, he's not running as efficiently. But it's also the touchdown interception rate. 7. Drake May's 17 game pace in his last four games is 4,692 passing yards, but 26 touchdowns to 13 interceptions and 102 carries for only 242 yards. So I think you could look at that and say positive regression could be coming. If he's going to throw for that many yards, should get better production. If he's going to run that much, you should get much better yards per carry than that.

[C]

CD Lamb, has he fallen victim to just not facing good offenses as well?

[B]

You know, he's averaging 32.3 pass attempts per game in that stretch, which is kind of a lot for him. They've been a little more pass heavy recently. I just.

[C]

I think it's.

[B]

The interceptions are really hurting him and he's 8.6 yards per attempt in his last four games. That's amazing. And. But no good fantasy production. No. Yeah, I don't think it's that necessarily, but he does have three of those.

[A]

Three of those four games were one score game. So it's not. They're not winning blowouts.

[C]

Right.

[B]

CD Lamb? I don't think.

[C]

Not forcing them to throw. Like they can be conservative and runnable.

[B]

Yeah. But they've been doing that all year, basically because they've had such an easy schedule. But I think they've been a little more pass heavy lately. Well, I shouldn't say that. I would say he's thrown more lately than he had earlier in the year anyway. CD Lamb dominating ed zone targets. Dominating red zone targets. He and Ferguson are. He's in a little bit of a slump. Drops are a big part of it. He's among the league leaders and drops. So I think he should be fine. Even though the schedule is not great. Cortland Sutton has a good schedule, for what it's worth. We'll talk about him a little bit later. The Saints have a great schedule. Saquon Barkley. You know, Saquon Barkley has had so few good matchups this year and I thought maybe last week was one and he ran like garbage or the line didn't help. But maybe Dallas is actually a good run defense. But he gets Chicago.

[C]

You gotta consider that at this point, probably.

[B]

Right. Chicago at the Chargers, he's. Then the Vegas is a good run event at Washington, at Buffalo, it couldn't be much better for Saquon Barkley down the stretch in terms of run defenses. And Tampa Bay, I think has a good schedule as well.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

How are we feeling about their offense though? Because that's been in a funk.

[C]

Well, I mean their quarterback situation is obviously the biggest thing at this point, you know. So if Baker's healthy, playing. I shouldn't say healthy. He's going to play through whatever injury he's. He's dealing with. If he's out there, you'll feel somewhat confident. More so I think than Teddy Bridge. At least I will. Clearly Ameka Buka has struggled the last three games and I think you just have to view him as a number two receiver as opposed to. We thought, okay, here we go. You know, no Godwin, no Evans. He's a locked in top 10 guy and he just hasn't produced like that. Whether due to his performance or defense taking away etc. I'm excited by Bucky Irving coming back so I think that's kind of where they pivot to a little bit. So maybe the passing game takes a little bit of a downt but you get now your best running back back and we've seen some good running game performances from them at times this season. Certainly the Buffalo game was a good example of that. What they can do when they commit to the run in a good matchup. So if they commit to Bucky Irving in good matchups, I think he'll have some opportunities for big games and this could be one of them this week. You know he's going to have fresh legs, he's going to have an opportunity probably to carry the offense and so to me he's a I don't want to say slam dunk, must start guy, but he's a definite number two running back this week.

[A]

I I'm really excited about Bucky Irving with their playoff schedule and what he could be the last three weeks. I'm really not nervous about starting him this week just because they they had they said I think it was the offensive coordinator said last week we can't expect Chris Godwin and Bucky Irving to come back and be full time players. It was 25 snaps for Chris Godwin in his first game back. I wouldn't be surprised if I mean they have two starting caliber running backs also not as good as Bucky, but I don't expect more than 20 to 30 snaps for Bucky in his first game back.

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[C]

Coordinator, that they're going to be committed to running the ball. I can't imagine that they fired Chip Kelly without the intent of being more aggressive there, which I hope does not take away from him as a pass catcher.

[B]

But they can't run the ball, right? I mean, they have.

[C]

They don't even try.

[B]

Yeah, well, they, they didn't.

[C]

Right.

[B]

You're right. But they. So inefficient this year. And tough schedule. The Chargers have a tough schedule after this week. It's Las Vegas this week. Then it's Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys, Texans and then at Denver and Week 18. And Washington has kind of a tough schedule. They have Denver at Minnesota at the Giants, which is great. Philadelphia and then Dallas in Week 17, which might be good for the passing game. All right, thank you all for [e-mail] we have moved on to the round of 16.

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[C]

You missed yesterday. Adam promised that if we win this entire thing, he will go streaking in his neighborhood for 64 minutes.

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Prices may be higher in Hawaii, Alaska and California. And for delivery. Okay, if you have Joe Burrow, you're excited to get him back. He says he's gonna play. Obviously gonna play this week, but he says he wants to play regardless of Cincinnati's record, so that's good. Hopefully we get him for the rest of the season. Isaiah Pacheco is going to play this week, but Andy Reid wasn't sure how many snaps he will get. Arizona offensive coordinator Drew Petzing said Michael Wilson will have an increased stroll even when Marvin Harrison Jr. Is back. Mike Tomlin is optimistic about Aaron Rodgers playing this week. DK Metcalf is nursing an ankle injury. Doesn't seem to be a big deal. They get Buffalo this week. The Chargers designated Omarion Hampton to return from ir. Yeah, well, he was on fire before his injury. We'll talk about him in a little bit. The bill signed Brandon Cooks, Josh Jacobs was limited. I don't. Don't drop Manual Wilson just yet. They didn't seem completely committed to Jacobs playing. That game is tomorrow in Detroit and they didn't tell us if Jaden Reed's going to play. I think Matt LaFleur said something like, you'll find out on Thursday. Lamar Jackson, Rashad Bateman, Kyle Hamilton, they all practiced. Doesn't mean they're all going to play, but I think Hamilton may be the most questionable there. I feel like they're all going to play. Certainly Jackson's going to play Cincinnati on Thursday. George Pickens is a little banged up, but he's going to play. Rasheed Rice and Xavier Worthy practice in full, but Trey Smith is probably not going to play for the Chiefs at Dallas on Thursday. The linebacker news that I'm always looking at is Chicago linebacker T.J. edwards. Their run defense has been much better with him. They're so beat up at linebacker that may not matter, but he did not practice. They play Friday at Philadelphia and Carolina safety Trayvon Merrick is suspended one game for hitting Juwan Jennings in the Nerds. Merrick is appealing his suspension and J.C. horn is in the concussion protocol and his replacement, that's their best cornerback, Corey Thornton is out for the season. So start saying, start Stafford. Start Stafford.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

All right. Facebook questions here. This one is from Ian Bowling. He says, what do I do with Quentin Johnston? What do I do with Quentin Johnston?

[C]

Flip a coin.

[A]

He is in that group of boom bust wide receiver threes that just. I think the. The best advice is you start them if you have to.

[B]

Look, is there still the boom potential for him?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah, I think.

[C]

Yeah. You got to figure that they've spent some time working on their protection issues, and I believe he had a good game against the Raiders in week two, so.

[B]

Yeah, he did.

[C]

There's. There's still plenty of upside. It's just. You can't say, oh, yeah, this is safe.

[B]

The. The stat that I come back to on this offense is the adot in the last two games. So what's a low A dot? Six, seven yards, right?

[A]

Yeah. Six or seven.

[B]

Okay. Yes. I'm not gonna say it, Joe. Justin Herbert's eight out the last two games. 4.7 yards, 3.8 yards. I mean, it's insane. He's getting the ball out so quickly. He never has time to throw. But let's see.

[A]

One of those games, it was throw it sideways to Quentin Johnston 10 times and he has the ability to break one of those. So I think if you look at his last three games. There's a zero, there's a 10 target game where he scored nine fantasy points and then against the. I guess it was alt still play. I all played a little bit against the Titans or not at all.

[B]

He left. I think he played about 40 of the snaps, something like that and he.

[A]

Had a 15 point game in that one. So I, I think like he's behind Jameson Williams but of the same ilk.

[B]

All right.

[C]

The only one you can start with confidence is lad and then it's a gamble for the other two.

[B]

Todd wants to know what is happening with Lamar Jackson. I'm rolling into the playoffs. I hate to bench Lamar, but the project production just isn't there. Please help. What's happening with Lamar Jackson.

[C]

I mean this is the week, right? You got to start them this week against Cincinnati.

[B]

Dave would say no, I think Dave has him outside.

[C]

Look, that's fine. Just, I mean the recent production suggests he's not playing well and he's certainly seemingly playing hurt based on his injury reports each of the last, you know, since, since the hamstring injury. So I, I get it if you feel like you want to. I think Dave said he's going with Jacoby Brissette. So I get it, you know, if you want to go that route based on what percent has done his. His stats have been better. I just can't see myself sitting him against the Bengals. Like it's, it's just too, too appealing of a matchup. His history against his team is obviously fantastic. He does not need to run to be successful against the Bengals. So like I'm, I'm gonna start him.

[A]

Dave has him 11th. So Dave doesn't have him as a Sid, but he does have him behind Brissette and he has, I think he's the only one of us that has burrow over Lamar in this matchup on Thursday night, which I would start Lamar over Burrow. I, I think like what's going on is he's run 11 times in his last two games for 21 yards and he hasn't thrown a fast touchdown. Like it's, that's, that's pretty terrible. But I think they're going to probably have to be a little more aggressive offensively against the Bengals. Burrow back and he's a top six QB for me.

[B]

He had Hopkins wide open for a touchdown on a nice double move. He missed him. Zay Flowers also dropped the ball. Would have been, you know, about a 16 yard gain or so. Mark Andrews had a touchdown go through his hands. So he did not play that well. Lamar Jackson, but it could have been better. The rushing is really concerning. I mean, there's no question he's hurt right now. I mean, kind of had a little bit of a debate about it on Monday. I just. Right. I feel confident saying that he's not 100. He's probably not that close.

[C]

He's not going to give you your return on investment that you were hoping for at this point, you know, with the missed games and. And whatnot. But he could still get hot. He still has the ability to win with his arm. You know, I know we drafted him because of his dual threat potential. And so if he's not running, there's still, I still think enough upside that he could be a number one quarterback. But look, the. The recent production in some cases for some of these top end guys and injuries throughout the season for some of these guys. Like we'll have this conversation again next off season about when you want to draft your quarterbacks. Yeah.

[A]

And I think there is, if you want to be optimistic, hopefully the. The mini buy after the Thursday game. He comes back a little healthier after.

[C]

That and still gets the Bengals one more time. So if he has a big game here, like you're going to be thrilled about it.

[B]

Is Cortland Sutton droppable? That is what an anonymous Facebook user wants to know. Is Cortland Sutton droppable?

[C]

No.

[A]

I think I'd be more likely to start him this week than drop him. If it's a bad game this week where he has four targets and Troy Franklin has eight, then maybe you start having that conversation. But a borderline wide receiver too for me this week. Great matchup.

[C]

Agree.

[B]

Two great matchups in a row at Washington, at Las Vegas from Ryan Rogers. How did no one give Dave praise for his McLaughlin building a mystery comment today? Pure gold. It was very good. I agree. I don't think Heath knows what that is. Jamie. I'm thinking yes. I'm thinking Jamie does get the reference.

[C]

No. Oh, no.

[B]

Sarah McLaughlin bursts onto the scene with her hit Building a Mystery. It's a pretty good song. All right. Joshua wants to know, would you trade Rasheed Rice for Rico Dowdle?

[C]

I would prefer not to, but I get it if you need a running back. And that's the best you could do? No.

[B]

Hell no. Are you kidding? Not even close. Rashida. I was thinking about this Rashid Rice be a top, maybe a first round pick we were drafting today. I think he'd be a top four receiver. Good grief. I would not trade Rashid Rice.

[C]

I mean Dowdle's basically been a number, a second round pick. Like it's not like it's far off.

[B]

I think we're kind of forgetting the last three games for Rico Dowdle. He's rushed like garbage in two of them, was so uninvolved in this last one. He saved his bacon two weeks ago with the receiving totals. But this is not close to me.

[A]

The role for Rishi Rice I think is what makes it not close. I thought Rice hasn't quite been the player that his fantasy production suggests, but they keep throwing it to him so much it doesn't really matter.

[B]

He played 62 of the snaps last.

[C]

Week and he had, I wonder just with the hamstrings. I know he practiced in full but like I'm still a little concerned. Yeah, that's probably where I'm coming from is that I'm all right limping around.

[A]

I think. I think that's a, like that's a big concern for the Chiefs in this game because you got 30 year old cream hunt coming off 30 touches on a short week and then Rashid Rice with a hamstring injury. Their offense could be hamstrung.

[B]

Oh, nice. All right. This is from Nathan. Nathan Weatherholt. If the CBS news said weather center Rome wasn't built in a day. Right. Why has Odunze fallen? I hate starting him.

[C]

You gotta like that he had nine targets last week. So hopefully that's something that can be repetitive and he gets more opportunities. Because that's to me been the biggest issue is his lack of chances. I think you still consider him a borderline number two, number three receiver at worst.

[A]

The problem is last week was the good week. It's nine targets, six, ten, three, ten, six. So we're getting three to six targets this week. Hope he scores a touchdown.

[B]

When you look at his target share though, Romo Dunes's target share, he's only got I think two concerning games. He has 17% game and 8.8% target share game. Other than that he's been 21.4% or higher every single week. I'm pretty sure I could double. I should double check this. But you know, low 20s isn't great. You get into the 24 range and that's really good for a target share. And he's usually there to the last three of the last five. For the last six he's been 24 or higher. This past week he had three cat. I would say very close to having three more catches for about 45 yards. It just went a little bit off. And that's kind of the thing with Caleb Williams. It's like Caleb Williams is one of the most inaccurate quarterbacks in, in the NFL. He makes incredible plays, but he is so inaccurate. And some of it, like I think one was probably a drop, a couple were just like a little bit off. But he had three catches for 53 yards. He almost had six catches for about 90 yards.

[A]

He's lost several points over the last six weeks to drops. He's. That's been a little bit of an issue and we've. Generally with good receivers, we just don't care about that.

[B]

All right, one more here is, by the way, he's ranked as about a number two receiver this week. And that's Roma. Dunze.

[C]

What?

[B]

I'll end with this one. What can we expect out of Bucky Irving and Omarion Hampton rest of season?

[C]

I would say you just play it safe and call them number two running backs.

[A]

I would say that I, in their first game back, I would expect a flex and rest of season they could be high end RB2s.

[C]

The good thing is they're walking into great matchups. So to Heat's point, you know, the workload will probably determine how successful they are.

[B]

Well, I don't know that Hampton's playing this week or we don't know that yet. If he comes back this week, that's, that's great. You're playing Las Vegas, but they actually have a good running events. But I mean look at it's Philadelphia, Kansas City, Dallas, both those games are on the road. And Houston for Hampton, that's horrible in terms of run defenses.

[A]

Yeah, I like Bucky quite a bit more than Hampton.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Once they're ramped up, you guys are.

[B]

What's your concern level after this week? I know he already talked about this, but after this week, your concern level that the Bucks go committee like so many other teams and that it's, it's, we're, we're surprised. The role of Sean Tucker, the role of Rashad White and the diminished role of Bucky Irving, that possibility. Jamie, what's your concern level for that?

[C]

I mean you, you saw last year what they did with Bucky and then they ramped him up at the end of the season and it was, you know, a featured guy. My guess is it if they're going to do that, it's going to be clearly on a much shorter, you know, game span. So I'm still hopeful he's going to be a top 10 caliber player. That's Kind of why I just phrase it the way I did. Like, I think you just treat him like a number two running back because of that potential, because of maybe the quarterback situation being awful. If it's not Baker, the schedule's great. His upside is incredible. He's going to be involved in the passing game to whatever degree they allow him to. But we've seen that with Rashad White, you know, still being a significant pass catcher. That could be his role. You know, really, it's. It's about Tucker, I think, is the wild card. Because if they're going to give Tucker carries, then I think Bucky's in a little bit of trouble. If they're going to just go back to what they did last year, where Tucker was, okay, great for one game. And then, you know, like, we saw last week, he wasn't. He was obviously struggling against the Rams, but the entire offense was a disaster. So I. I still just would view him again, number two running back with potential to be top 10 guy.

[A]

This was the. Like, I think we will almost certainly have a committee. His breakout in the second half last year in his healthy games. 52 snapshare. 54, 44, 57, 55, 71. Like, he. He had one game where it was.

[C]

Lower than that prior to that stretch. Right.

[A]

It was in the 30s and 40s. Right.

[B]

So.

[A]

But it's. It's going to be a committee.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

I think. I think the thing you just have to worry about is because they were starting to phase out Rashad White, my guess is they'll probably feel comfortable phasing out Rashad White again. So it's a matter of just how many carries that Tucker gets. Because what they were doing last year was White was still playing on passing down.

[B]

Yeah. The thing is, the first three games of the year, Bucky Evering played over 71 of the snaps.

[A]

I don't think we're getting that.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

All right. And then Rodrigo asks on Facebook, is Die Hard a Christmas movie? Rodrigo, come on. You know, the.

[A]

Obviously.

[B]

Obviously is not a Christmas movie. It is an action movie with Christmas decorations.

[C]

I don't understand how we had the guy who wrote the movie on our show and told you it was a Christmas movie, and you're still refuting this for years. It doesn't make any sense.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. What he said. I agree. What he said does not make any sense. But what he said, if I recall, is that he didn't think it was a Christmas movie until he saw the set and he saw the decorations and all that. And that's my whole point, because it's not a Christmas movie. It's just dressed up as a Christmas movie.

[A]

He made the movie. He says it is a Christmas movie. You are just making yourself look dumber every time you make this argument.

[B]

Kansas City's at Dallas. Let's do it. Here we go. Stat of the game.

[C]

Is this a Thanksgiving show even though it's not on Thanksgiving?

[B]

Yeah, I think so.

[C]

Just because of the set.

[B]

Oh, oh, oh, no, because we're going to talk about Thanksgiving. We're going to talk. You know, we got to.

[C]

Oh, so they. Because they. So they talked about Christmas. So it must be a Christmas movie.

[B]

This is not a Thanksgiving show. This is the Thanksgiving edition of fantasy football today. This is a fantasy football show.

[A]

Why do we have the. What's the little hat there in the.

[B]

Bottom that looks like. It looks like a pylon? It looks like one of those cones, but it's painted brown.

[A]

It looks. It looks kind of like a pilgrim's hat.

[B]

It does. I agree. So let's. Now let's talk about Cowboys, Kansas City at Dallas. So, Dak Prescott, your stat of the game. At least. Here's mine. Heath will have a better one. Dak Prescott has thrown three or more touchdown passes in five games this season. Only one quarterback all year has thrown multiple touchdown passes against the Chiefs, and it was Justin Herbert in week one. No, no. Oh, sorry. He's the only one who stole more than two. He's the only one who stole more than two. Three quarterbacks have thrown more than one, but Herbert's the only one who's still more than two against the Chiefs. So that came through in a tough matchup last week. Are there any concerns about that this week?

[C]

No.

[A]

He's QB8 for me, ahead of Burrow, ahead of Brissette for me. You start him.

[B]

You start him. Who's the. Okay, we've got Dak, we've got Mahomes, golf, Love Burrow and Jackson Lamar. Yeah, and we're also going to talk about Hertz and Caleb today. Who's the best quarterback on Thursday and Friday?

[C]

Hurts. Fantasy of reality.

[B]

Fantasy mom. So, yeah, so start that. Are you guys back in on Mahomes because he has been struggling the last three games. Must start.

[A]

Must start.

[C]

Yeah, I think this is a. Assuming Rice is fine. I think this is a big game from Homes.

[A]

Yeah, it is kind of weird to call anybody a must start when a guy who went undrafted in a lot of our leagues is my QB one for the week. So I Guess if you picked up Matthew Stafford, he's not a must start.

[B]

But I couldn't figure out who it was. One thing for Mahomes, first eight games of the year, past attempts from the five yard, five yard line are closer. 14 attempts, seven touchdowns. Last three games, six attempts, zero touchdowns. So that's just kind of one of those fluky in season things.

[A]

He's also run about half as much since Rashi Rice showed up. So he was about six rush attempts per game before rice has been about 3 cents. So the 30 point upside's probably not there with with three rush attempts per game.

[B]

Someone asking Mahomes or Nicks Great question. Nick's at Washington.

[C]

A little concerned with Nick's just how much he's gonna throw.

[A]

I thought you were gonna say because he was outside or not outside, but on the road.

[C]

Definitely on the road as well. But I have a feeling this is a run game for the Broncos.

[A]

But I'm starting both.

[B]

Who's your start of the week?

[C]

Harvey?

[A]

Oh, I like it.

[B]

Dak or Drake? May?

[C]

I go Dak.

[A]

I've got Drake.

[C]

May. Okay, so I think this is, this is the shootout of the week.

[B]

I hope so. 52 and a half. And here's the is that. That's the total. The Chiefs defense, they faced a lot of great offenses. They held the Eagles to 20. They're not a great offense. They held the Ravens to 20. They held the Lions to 17. They held the Colts to 20. All of those games were at home. When they weren't at home, The Chargers scored 27, the Bills scored 28. So their defense has been a lot better in Arrowhead than away from Arrowhead. Who's the best running back in this game, Heath?

[A]

It's Javante Williams. He's not ranked as high as he has been for a lot of this season, but he's still for me a top 20 guy for sure. I think he's close to 16. With Pacheco back and Kareem Hunt like three days removed from a 30 carry game, I'm a little worried that they manage his workload in the game. So he's. He's a borderline RB too, but Javante is definitely the best.

[B]

Someone's asking Harvey or Kareem Hunt, who we going there?

[A]

Harvey.

[C]

Harvey.

[B]

How about Harvey or Javante?

[C]

Harvey. For me.

[A]

I have Harvey one spot higher in full PPR.

[B]

Javante. Three straight games with 12.1 or fewer PPR fantasy points. He's really had tough matchups most of the year and he's been Fairly. He's been efficient. He just had 20 carries for 87 yards against the Eagles. That's not bad. 22 carries for 93 yards at Las Vegas. He's just not scoring. He's not giving you much in the passing game.

[A]

The passing game I think is the key thing because you look at the first five, six games of the year, it was five catches, six catches, two, three. He had only one game with just one catch in his last five. Which I think coincides with Lamb coming back and then having everybody healthy. Six receptions in his last five games. They're just not throwing it to him.

[C]

Well, it's also their goal line play is George Pickens.

[B]

Yeah, we're actually been Lamb a lot too. But yeah, they're, they're. And I think if I'm not mistaken, he got down to like the half yard line, didn't he? In on Sunday, one of the guys.

[C]

He definitely was down there. I don't know where he was, but inside the five.

[B]

Yeah, I think he got. He just missed. All right, so Jamie's got him 21st. So he's not as great of a start as a usual.

[C]

Really good run defense too. It's not just fact that he's struggling like this. Run defense is fantastic. Look what they just did to Jonathan Taylor.

[B]

Would you start Travy on Henderson over Javante?

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Would you start Tyrone Tracy at New England over Javante?

[C]

He's the most fascinating guy for me this week because you got dart back and what he may do as a rusher and will he still be as successful as a pass catcher? Because the Patriots run defense is amazing but they've given up big games to pass catching.

[B]

Injured though. They're quite.

[C]

They are industry. I think. I think I still start Devonte over Tracy. I would start Tracy over Hondo.

[A]

I agree with that order.

[B]

Okay, so start Lamb, start Pickens. They're both I think in the top eight. Start Rashee Rice. If he plays. I think probably people are going to sit Xavier Worthy. But if Rice doesn't play, I gotta say worthy wasn't that great before Rice came back. But if Rice doesn't play, where would you rank? This is kind of a silly question because Rice practice in full, but where would you rank worthy on the off chance? Jamie top 30?

[A]

Yeah, he's. He's 37 for me right now. One spot behind Quentin Johnston. He's not shown the upside as recently as Johnston, but I still think the Cowboys have given up a ton of deep passes. I don't know if Patrick Mahomes and Xavier Worthy can connect on one of those because they haven't. But there's, there's an opportunity for a boom play, but you'd like to stay away from them. It's funny.

[C]

Taekwond more so than Worthy.

[A]

It, it could be. I mean they've taken shots to both. Taekwond's the only one who's been able to connect on a few of them. So I, I think wide receipt like every position except for wide receiver, it's like yay. There's no buys. Look how deep it is. There's so many guys to start and a wide receiver. It's like we almost have 36 wide receivers. I want to start almost.

[C]

Yeah. I'm, I'm beyond excited about Yoshivas and Greg Dortch this week.

[B]

So you start them over. Worthy.

[C]

I would. Yes.

[B]

Okay. And Parker Washington.

[C]

Those type of guys.

[B]

Talk about the tight ends here.

[C]

I think Worthy is a great DFS play. So is taekwondo.

[B]

Yeah. Since the start of 20. I think I said this last week, since the start of 2024, Xavier Worthy has one of the lowest catch rates on deep balls. Yeah, he is in some really bad company there. It's less than 20% of his deep balls.

[A]

He's catching and it's a wide variety of reasons. Sometimes he and Mahomes are not on the same page. Sometimes he catches the ball standing out of bounds and sometimes my home is misses him by 10 yards.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. So anywho the tight ends here. Jamie, quickly. Well, not so quickly. Your thoughts on the tight ends.

[C]

I mean Kelsey's a must start guy. I think Ferguson's still a, a must start guy. You know you can like I have Brenton Strange and Dalton Schultz ranked ahead of Jake Ferguson. I don't know if I'd be dropping Jake Ferguson. I, I, I would not be dropping Jake Ferguson for those guys. But Curly Ferguson has not been the same guy since Lamb's return and Pickens emergence. So just understand what you're dealing with. Plus the Chiefs are really good at defending tight ends and I just think Kelsey right now is still one of the go to guys for, for Patrick Mahomes in a matchup that I think they're gonna throw a lot. So I'm, I'm starting him. Top five Titan.

[B]

Jake Ferguson or Juwan Johnson? Jake Ferguson or Theo Johnson.

[C]

Ferguson. Ferguson I think is one spot ahead of Theo for me.

[B]

You want to guess what Jake Ferguson's target share is in CD Lamb return in week seven? Negative 4% 18% 13.4%. Yikes. I'm trying to find this damn Javante Williams run, but whatever. I've run out of time. All right, sit the DSTs. Let me see if I have any more questions from this game. Lamar or Mahomes? Sorry, go ahead.

[C]

Just.

[A]

Just to go back. It is Mahomes. Just to go back to Ferguson real quick because that 13.4 might be a little misleading. He had the one target game against Denver. Since then, it's been. It's like it's six targets a game.

[B]

Yeah, that's true.

[C]

And you had a backup tight end score touchdown last week. Like that could easily be him.

[B]

Yes, we did have that.

[C]

Oh, where are you?

[A]

Not that I'm excited about starting Ferguson. I think he's like, there's 18 low end tight end ones and he's in the middle of them.

[B]

I found the Javante run. Yes, he did get down to inside the one yard line. Did not score.

[C]

Great.

[B]

Okay, Ferguson or Gadsden? Good question here.

[C]

Gadsden.

[A]

Gadsden.

[B]

Hunter Henry against the Giants or Ferguson?

[C]

That's very close, I think, to Heath's point. Like, that's where the range is for Ferguson now. I just don't want to chase Henry's production after he just did what he did against the Bengals.

[A]

Yeah, I think flip a coin is the right answer, but I. I've got Ferguson one spot higher.

[B]

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We Like Past attempts Past attempts are good for fantasy so here are some reasons why Jordan Love might actually throw the ball in this game.

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[B]

He has 36 or more pass attempts in two of Green Bay's three losses and he and in their one tie, Green Bay's defense has been much better at home than on the road. Four of the five quarterbacks to face Detroit in Detroit have thrown 33 or more passes. So there are some reasons. Also the touchdowns really been though this, I mean this is different but he had 13 touchdown passes in his first seven games, only two in his last four games. The Lions have allowed multiple touchdown passes to eight of the 11 quarterbacks they have faced. Jordan Love is not a top. I mean I know you guys don't trust him, but Heath in terms of game script and what it could mean for Christian Watson, what could mean for Jordan Love who's still rostered in most leagues. What do you think about this packers offense at Detroit?

[A]

So yeah, Love has thrown 21 and 24 passes in his last two games and I think that coincides maybe with health concern as much as the fact that they gave up 13 points a game in those two games. It's it's probably a double edged sword. I've got him projected for 30 passes just because I do think there's a chance they're playing from behind and the Lions score some points. The problem is you have no idea on a weekly basis. I mean we feel the best about Christian Watson right now, but you can go through the entirety the last probably three seasons and see whether starting the packers wide receiver that was best last week is a good strategy. And I don't think it often is because if it was Romeo dobbs would have been a lot better in a lot of weeks. I, I, if Reed doesn't play, Dobbs and Watson are both wide receiver threes. If Reed does play, I have like no idea.

[B]

The total is 49 and it's a two and a half point spread. So Vegas is expecting a, a good fantasy type of atmosphere.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

High scoring game with both teams scoring. Jamie, what are you expecting in this game?

[C]

I can't trust Jordan Love. You said it. It's since Tucker Kraft has been out, he's had one good game. It was against the Giants. And yes, this Lions defense, the secondary has not been great. They're hopefully getting Terry Normal back so we'll see what that means for them. But I think to what he said about the health like he's playing with the left shoulder injury. If you watch a hand off, he's handing off to his, off his right shoulder with his right hand like it, there's, there's clearly something off with him at this point. And I don't think that this is going to be a game where the Lions go crazy offensively. And so you could say, wow, Jameis Winston had a huge game against him last week. The trick play on the touchdown to Wanda Robinson was as wide open as any receiver I think you'll ever see. You know, and certainly in, in a long time he caught a touchdown. I don't think Jordan Love is doing that. And so I don't think this is going to be a huge game for Jared Goff. I think he's going to be in that 20 point per game range he typically is on Thanksgiving. And this is still a really good packers defense that held this Lions offensive check. I know it was in their building in week one, but I don't expect it to be a high scoring. I take the under actually. So I, I think we're going to get, you know, you're not benching the key members of the Lions, you're not benching Josh Jacobs. But everybody else to me is borderline.

[B]

Here's an annoying question that you're going to get mad at me for.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Can you say in their building if it's an outdoor venue?

[C]

Well, still a building.

[B]

Is it? I don't know if it's.

[C]

How would you define a stadium? Mr. Christmas Movie for diehard is, is.

[A]

A stadium a building? This is the fantastic question.

[B]

Is, is anything that doesn't have a roof a building? I think that's, that's really the question here and I don't know the answer.

[A]

I think the chat probably should answer this. Thomas, can we get a. Can we get a YouTube poll in the stadium a building?

[B]

This is why we're gonna move on in the. In the 64. All right, so Jacobs, here's. Here's another.

[C]

The footballers just throwing out stats left and right. We're debating.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. Oh, how many running backs have scored more than 16 PPR fantasy points against the Lions? One quin. Sean Judkins is the only one to do it. Josh Jacobs, if he plays, is he going to be a top 12 running back? Heath.

[A]

Very close to 12. I. I wish he could get. Could have got a full practice in and they're like, yeah, he's fine. We gave him the week off and he feels good. I've got him at RB10 in full PPR. I. I think we probably. They're going to try to run the ball 15 to 20 times. How many of those go to Jacobs? How many go to Wilson? You probably have a little bit of a re. Injury risk. You still have to start them.

[B]

First matchup. Jacobs had a good game. He had 14 fantasy points. Not great. 19 carries, 66 yards and a touchdown. One catch for four yards. Okay, so the wide receivers are just kind of flexes. Watson and Dobbs. How would they compare to Yosevas? Jamie?

[C]

I'd rather start Yoshis.

[B]

All right, sit. Luke Musgrave. Sit. Brock. Right. Jared Goff is, I think, 11th for Jamie. Let me check the updated rankings. 12th for Jamie, 13th for Dave, 13th for Heath. So most of the guys playing on Thanksgiving are going to start ahead of golf, but not. Not Jordan Love and Burrow and Lamar are ahead. How about. How about Caleb Williams or. Or Jared Goff?

[A]

Golf for me.

[C]

Golf for me, too.

[B]

All right, golf is one spot ahead of Bo Nix for Jamie, but Billbo Nix is four spots ahead of golf for Heath. So Jamie said kind of low 20s and fantasy points for Jared Goff. That's what we're expecting.

[C]

So he's played four games on Thanksgiving with the Lions. Three of them, he's been 20.1 or more. I think that's kind of where he is. You look at the packers and their last four road games, three of those quarterbacks have been basically that number. The one that did not do it was Jameis Winston. So on the road, their production to quarterbacks has been better for the quarterbacks, at least. So I don't. I don't think you run away from golf, but I don't expect a huge game for him. I don't know how you can.

[B]

We're Running away from Montgomery, right?

[C]

Yeah, very.

[B]

And Jameer Gibbs is going to be running away from defenders. Start him. Start Saint Brown. Start or sit. Jameson Williams.

[A]

He's a rich man's Quentin Johnston.

[C]

I'm gonna guess that, you know, after what happened last week where they didn't involve him, Dan Campbell goes back to doing that. To what extent? We'll find out. So you just have to treat him, I think his number three receiver like I. I'll speak for myself. I got, you know, too, you know, over excited about where he was, what he had done the two previous games with Campbell calling plays in the matchup against the Giants. And then, you know, here we go again.

[B]

Man, this is a really good defense, this packers defense. And week, Week one. Jamis Williams had a terrible game and so did I'm on Russ St. Brown. They've held those two guys, McLaren McMillan, Justin Jefferson, Marvin Harrison Jr. AJ Brown to single digit PPR fantasy points. Not to say that no one's ever been good against them, but it's tough and. All right, JMO, let's do some JMOs. JMO or Javante?

[C]

Javante. Yeah.

[B]

Jamo or Devin Neal at Miami.

[C]

Oh, that's a good. I'll go Neil.

[A]

So I've got Neil at 11.6 in full PPR. There's zero chance that JMO scores within five points of 11.6. So I've got JMO slightly lately.

[B]

Jamo or Cortland Sutton.

[C]

Sutton.

[B]

Sutton and JMO or Ted roll McMillan against the Rams.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The definition of building on Eric's.

[A]

Eric's helping us out.

[C]

Eric. Eric.

[A]

Fully open air stadiums, no roof over the field are still classified as buildings in architecture and engineering.

[B]

Okay, thank you, Eric. It said Dictionary.com says it is a usually roofed and walled structure. So it could.

[A]

But yeah, there's. There's lots of rooms inside of open air stadiums that have walls and roofs.

[B]

Well, those rooms aren't buildings.

[A]

They're part of the building.

[C]

You are building a case as to why you're a moron.

[B]

28 are saying no. I think I'm on the yes side now. You guys are idiots. Cincinnati's at Baltimore. Oh, Packers. Packers ds. Packers dst. Jamie says they could. You could start them. He says no. They are eighth for Jamie. They are 16th for Heath. And where's Dave have them Somewhere. They're somewhere for Dave between 18. No, they're not. They're 19th.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Cincinnati at Baltimore of the game. Baltimore is 27th in pressure rate and 29th in sacks. They can't get to the quarterback they couldn't even get to to Rod Taylor until super late in the game. So here's it. I mean, here, this is the question of the game. Burrow and Lamar Jamie, how much faith do you have in these guys?

[C]

I mean, last year Joe Burrow threw for 820 yards and nine touchdowns against the Ravens. Like I know it. You can't expect that. There's no T. Higgins, it's first game back after a long layoff. He wasn't even good in the first healthy game that he played against a really good defense at Cleveland before he got hurt against Jacksonville. But it's still Joe Burrow, you know, so if I've been stashing him, I'm clearly comparing him to whatever quarterback I have. So, you know, Matthew Stafford, I'd start Stafford. Jacoby Brissette, I'd probably still start Brissette. Once you start to get to the, you know, two Otonga Violos of the world, clearly I'm going to start Joe Burrow. So I think you consider him a low end starter, you know, in the 10 to 12 range and hope that he's not, you know, too off from not playing. And, and yes, the Ravens have not gotten to the quarterback. They just don't give up fantasy points to quarterbacks. Now, granted, they faced a lot of trash for the majority of the season, so take that into account. They haven't faced a player of Joe Burrow's potential. And so, you know, you just kind of go into it with, I hope that he's Joe Burrow. And that's kind of the way I'm approaching it.

[B]

The Ravens have allowed three touchdown passes in their last six games. That was Stafford with Puka getting hurt, Caleb Williams, Tua McCarthy, the Browns guys and Tyrod Taylor. It's impressive even with the matchups, but it is certainly somewhat matchup related. All right, Heath, what do you think about Jackson and Burrow?

[A]

Pretty much everything Jamie said. I think you're starting Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow is, like you said, the most difficult decision of the week. I would still start Brissette Overborough, I would start Nicks against the Commanders over Burrow. I've got Dart one spot hot higher for now. I will be. I'll. I generally will probably do a rankings update, projections update on Wednesday night on Thanksgiving Day and Dart borough and golf in that 11 through 13 are right now separated by about 3/10 of a point. So if there's some, some line movement or, or something like those three are kind of interchangeable. For me, but it's really the end of the good QB ones is that 11 through 13 range.

[B]

Burrow played five games without Higgins last year. Scored 8.1, 21.2, 14.9 not good. 39.1, 41.7 fantasy points and six point per passing touchdown.

[C]

And the 41.7 was Baltimore.

[B]

Yeah, he only threw for more than 258 yards in one of those five games against Baltimore. He threw 56 passes. So I think. Okay, as we look at this game, we talked about Burrow. We didn't really get too much into Lamar, but he's basically ranked. Jamie's got him fifth and you have got him 60s. Dave's lower on him, has him 11th. So I get it. It's. It's tough, but it is, it is. The Bengals, they are really bad against.

[A]

Quarterbacks and it's Lamar Jackson. Like we've seen stretches from Lamar Jackson where the touchdowns aren't there. It's not quite just normal Lamar Jackson because he's also banged up, but the guy could score 30 at any moment.

[C]

It's also Lamar in prime time. And if you recall, the start of this stretch when he came back from the hamstring injury was against Miami in a primetime game.

[B]

Yes, yes it was. Derrick Henry is an easy start. Start him. I'll come back. Let's talk about Chase Brown. Actually, we'll talk about him now. Any concerns with Samaj P. Ryan? If P. Ryan plays, you guys have Brown as a must start right now. What do you think? Any concerns Heath?

[A]

Just. Just the time like not enough to where it's really going to change my ranking because he's been so good lately. But yeah, the tiniest bit. He's not an RB one like he was last week and the week before, but he's an RB2. I think it's really tough with Chase Brown and ETN Genti Travy on Harvey like that group. But that's the group that he's in. You're probably starting all those guys.

[C]

I started Chase Brown as running back eight. Started the week with him at running back eight. Drop when the pri news came out, dropped like 14, you know, so.

[B]

Oh yeah. You just hope that he's playing so well right now that they. They go back to that. That every down roll basically was playing 90% of the snaps because he is on fire. I mean he's played Green Bay, Pittsburgh twice, a banged up New England team, the jets and the Bears in the last six games and he's been 4.7 yards per carrier better in five of his last six games. He is crushing it. I actually think their offensive line is playing pretty well and he's got some involvement in the passing game. Of course, that was with Flacco. We'll see what it's.

[C]

Well, now Burrows back. I mean, you got to expect just better offense.

[A]

The only thing that kind of worries me a little bit, ISP Ryan was crushing it before he got hurt. Like the game before he got hurt, he had nine carries for 94 yards. So they may not think there's a big drop off, but I, I think. I think Chase is still a good start.

[B]

All right, start Jamar Chase and then Yoshavas. Sounds like Jamie's excited about Yoshava. Heath, how are you feeling about Yoshavas?

[A]

I think he is also a wide receiver. Three that you should have very little faith in the floor but be pretty excited about the potential upside. He's maybe. I think I'm probably five or six spots lower on than Jamie is, but there's good potential here. We just. I don't think we know for sure if it'll be him or Mike Gasicki is kind of the number two option.

[B]

According to the rankings I'm looking at.

[C]

Right now, Sue Mafia is just making me laugh.

[B]

According to the rankings I'm looking at right now, you are 13 spots lower on Yoshua bus. Jamie has him 26 and you have him 39th. Okay.

[A]

What.

[B]

Sue mafia says. Second time Adam made me feel like a putz. First calling me out on the one spending the most fab on Tez Johnson in the FFT open. Now getting me to vote. Yes, it is not a building.

[A]

Then going back.

[C]

And then right afterwards.

[B]

So thankful for that Adam. Lol.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Happy Thanksgiving. Love it.

[C]

Okay, I just look at Yoshi. He's gotten three games this season with seven targets. He's averaging 13 PPR points in those games. I'm gonna guess there's going to be 40 plus attempts for Joe Burrow in this game. And looking at the receiving core right now, I think he's going to be heavily involved. And look, first off, we haven't mentioned this at all. Last week, Mitchell Tinsley caught a touchdown. They like him a lot. Okay, desperation play if you're. If you're stuck.

[B]

I would imagine that Adam is hairy enough that even if he went streaking, he would appear to be clothed.

[C]

That's great.

[B]

Not entirely untrue.

[A]

So.

[B]

Where were we? Who do you think is a better start relative to his position? Andre Yoshovis or Mike Kasiki?

[A]

Yoshimus.

[C]

I'll say Yoshis, but it's not far off.

[B]

By the way, Mark Andrews is a slam dunk, right? Or not. Not really. You guys have like ninth, actually. Oh, wait, Heath, you have.

[A]

I need to adjust him a little bit for the. The Bengals. The Bengals Bump. I'll probably have him 15.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

And Jamie, you have Andrew's 10th, so that's behind Strange Schultz. Gadsden for Andrews. Ahead of Otten, ahead of Ferguson.

[C]

Guys look like hall of Famers.

[B]

They sure do.

[A]

I wish I could just start. Baltimore tight end.

[B]

Yeah. So how do you feel about Zay Flowers this game, guys?

[A]

Number three, wide receiver.

[C]

Number three. I receive.

[B]

Man, if we. If we get a shootout, right, because it's a 51 and a half point total. If Lamar Jackson throws 33 times or something like that, then we're gonna have a good game for Zay Flowers.

[C]

Yeah, but you can get the shootout for the Ravens and it could be two Derrick Henry touchdowns and two tight end touchdowns and maybe a Lamar Jackson running touchdown. Like it doesn't have to be Zay Flowers, unfortunately, which sucks.

[B]

So how would you rank Flowers? Yoshavus. Jameson Williams Flowers.

[A]

Jameson Yoshubus.

[B]

All right. Jamie would go. Yoshua's over Jameson Williams and Heath would do the opposite. All right. Hopefully Rashad Bateman.

[C]

Smart thing to do, but I'm just excited for this game.

[B]

And the Ravens DST is a tough one to drop. I did drop them in a couple of leagues. They've been so good. But it's been at Miami, at Minnesota, at Cleveland and the Jets. This will be a different matchup for them. See if I have any chat questions for this game. Burrow or Darnold, bro.

[C]

Bro.

[B]

Harvey or Chase Brown?

[C]

Brown.

[A]

I have Brown. One spot higher for the moment.

[B]

Burrow. Dart or Brissette?

[C]

Brissette. Yeah, but imagine saying that at the start of the season.

[B]

Yeah. Burrow or Mahomes in four point. That's going to be Mahomes. Burrow or Drake. Maybe Yoshavas, Brian Thomas Jr. Or Troy Franklin.

[C]

One might not play. I think Franklin's got more upside than Yoshiba, so I'd play Franklin.

[B]

Franklin. Okay. All right. Last game, Chicago's at Philadelphia. Stat of the game that you can't do anything with. I figured out the A.J. brown thing. When is A.J. brown good? He's. He is good. When Jalen Hurts has a good passing game and that is it. Jalen Hurts has either 280 or more passing yards and or three touchdown passes in five games. And Brown has been good in four of them and those are pretty much his only good games. And he's been great when her, when Hertz has a good passing game. Unfortunately, I can't tell you when that's going to happen, but encouraging stuff last week and are you guys feeling that the Eagles offense, Jamie can carry that momentum into this game at least their passing offense.

[C]

Against the Bears, momentum is a strange word when they didn't score after the first quarter, but I, yes, I, I think you're starting Jalen hurts mostly because if he's not doing it with his arm in this game, he's probably going to get some rushing opportunities, if not the touch push because of what the linebacking core looks like for the Bears. So you know, as Heath alluded to earlier in the show, like receiver sucks this week and AJ Brown coming off the game that he just had and Devonte Smith and really the season that he's had, you know, quietly as a, you know, number two high end, number three receiver, but still upside. Like I'm starting both those guys. So I, I think in the case of, of Hertz, I know the Bears secondary may be getting healthy. I don't have to check the injury report, but I don't know how you can get away from what he's. His upside still is on a week to week basis. And in the case of the receivers, like you said, whenever he's been good, they, one of them has typically been good with him. Makes sense.

[A]

Yeah, I think Eagles are like other than Goddard, it's just start them all.

[B]

Are we still at that?

[C]

This should be a Saquon Barkley game. It really, really should. You know, coming off a loss where they didn't give him a lot of work, it's a short week. So he should have an opportunity to beat up on a defense that is really banged up right now. And so it's just shocking how bad they run the ball for how good they used to be. Yeah, like, I forget who it was and I apologize for not crediting him. Somebody was showing him one of the clips on, on Twitter. They have him running to the weak side when they have an overloaded offensive line. Like it makes no sense.

[B]

Well, also, I mean in Barkley's defense, he's had a lot of tough matchups this year. He's faced a lot of.

[C]

I'm not even talking about that. It's, it's, it's just the, what their concepts are.

[A]

I, I think that's been true of the whole offense.

[B]

They're Gonna have a new offensive coordinator. I mean, it's just.

[C]

No, I'm just surprised that Sirianni hasn't made that move already. Like to take over play calling. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

But I, I mean, okay, in my opinion, Saquon Barclays had had three, maybe four good matchups this year. Two games against the Cowboys, and I think you could argue that only one of them was a good matchup.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

And two games against the Giants. So the first game against the Cowboys back in week one, 18 carries for 60 yards and a touchdown. Yikes. Two games against the Giants, he was great. 12 for 58. I mean, he didn't have a lot of touches in one of the games, but 12 carries for 58 yards. The other game, 14 carries for 150 yards. The only game all year where he's had a run longer than I think 18 yards. This is, this is the next good matchup that he's had. And the Bears absolutely suck against running backs. They've been really horrible. And you know, I actually would argue they weren't that bad last week other than that 50 something yard run by Gainwell on the kind of trick play. But they, they are a good matchup. So hopefully this happens. We've talked about, hopefully he has a good game. We've talked about Travion Henderson and RJ Harvey and Chase Brown. Are they ahead of Savon Barkley?

[C]

No, because the matchup.

[B]

Matchup. Okay, that was my next question.

[C]

Like, based on play, clearly those guys are doing better things. In the case of something like Harvey. No, yet, but Harvey. Not yet. But like Barkley's just been bad. Like this was the fear.

[B]

And you guys have AJ Brown in the top 16. You have Devontae Smith similarly ranked. They're both in the top 20. And I do think the Bears are going to get two cornerbacks back, but they're 21st against wide receivers. So let's, let's go. Let's come on. Let's get it done. You guys love Jalen Hurts. Dallas Goddard is a sit. You both have him 19th. It's now five games in a row where Jalen Hurts has not had a pass attempt inside the five yard line. That's where Dallas Goddard was making his hay on the other side of the ball. Which Bears? Heath. Are we confident starting at the Eagles?

[A]

Zero.

[B]

Not one, but four defensive players got hurt for the Eagles last week. One of them, they're starting safety Andrew Makupa is out for the year. I believe he's out. I don't know about the others. I Think what Dory Jackson is in the concussion protocol.

[C]

Was it.

[B]

I don't remember. But he hasn't been that good anyway. But that does that factor in? You know, can. Can the Bears.

[A]

I'm not saying I'm not calling the Bears all sits. I think the running backs are sits. Roma Dun is a start in a three wide receiver league and maybe a tough decision in a two wide receiver league. D.J. moore and Luther Burden are both kind of boom bust flexes, but I don't want to be starting them and I'd rather start Colston Loveland than Dallas Goddard. He's definitely in that borderline tight end one discussion. It just hasn't been his role hasn't been consistent enough and I didn't like that even though he was good last week the snapshare went down to 64%. So there's not a guy that I have ranked. There's not a must start Bear for sure. There's a few borderline starts.

[B]

Why are you saying that the Bears running backs are easy sits.

[A]

We don't have confidence in which one is going to get the most touches. I don't think they're going to run effectively against the Eagles.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Caleb Williams, by the way, has three running back targets in his last two games. He had 15 combined in the two games before that. So you just never know where that ball is going with with Caleb. Would you start burrowing Lamar over Caleb Williams?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Would you start Dart over Caleb Williams?

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Would you start Trevor Lawrence over Caleb Williams? No.

[C]

They're back to back for me.

[B]

Okay, got some questions in the chat here for this game. Let me find them. Sit one. Roma, Dunze, Saquon Barkley, Rico Dowdle, Rome.

[C]

Rome.

[B]

Luther Burden or Chris Godwin?

[C]

Man, if this is the best you have for this week with Godwin, with Bridgewater and Burden in this matchup, I would go look for the waiver wire and I drop Burden.

[A]

I would start Burden over Godwin.

[C]

Like go find Mechi, go find Yoshivas, go find dk, go find any of those guys are in better situations.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cortland Sutton, Romo Dunesay or Parker Washington ppr.

[C]

I take the chance on Sutton in the matchup, but if not, you can go wrong.

[A]

Yeah, I'd go Sutton.

[B]

Nico Collins or A.J.

[A]

Brown.

[C]

Nico.

[A]

I have A.J. a couple spots higher.

[B]

Courtland or Colson Loveland or Harold Fannin or Brenton Strange?

[C]

Strange.

[A]

Loveland would be third out of that group. Group for me. I'm not quite ready to give up on Harold Fanning yet. But yeah, either of the other two guys.

[B]

Okay. By the way, last thing here for. For the Eagles wide receivers is that we like A.J. brown against man coverage. Dave's been all over that. Although I think he did pretty well against both types of coverage last week. But the Bears, I believe, are one of the most man heavy teams. Trying to find that.

[C]

I know.

[B]

Yes, they are a very man heavy team. So that's good for A.J. brown. Come on, keep it going. A.J. brown, he looked great. He looked great in this last game. But the Cowboys really played some pretty bad defense. I mean, they were just.

[C]

I don't know how you as a Giants fan and a Hurricanes fan can be encouraged or so excited about A.J. brown.

[B]

What does this have to do with the Hurricanes?

[C]

His touchdown celebration was mocking Michael Irvin.

[B]

It was?

[C]

Yeah, the revving, the.

[B]

Oh, I didn't know that. I think it was mocking the Cowboys. I'm fine with that.

[C]

No, he's mocking Michael Irvin.

[B]

Yeah, but the cowboy version of Michael Irvin, I don't. You're the pro. You probably grew up a big Michael Irvin Hurricanes fan.

[C]

I did. When I fit in that shirt that you know where.

[B]

Yeah, it's way before my time. All right, some questions to finish the show. Sit. One carb. Mashed potatoes, stuffing or sweet potato casserole?

[C]

Stuffing.

[B]

Oh, this is so tough.

[A]

You know me. I'll sit the sweet potato casserole. The thing is, especially if you put marshmallows on it.

[B]

Oh, you gotta have the marshmallows. No, I think I like both mashed potatoes and sweet potato casserole better than stuffing. But I don't think I want both of them because it's a little redundant. So in that case, I'll sit. Mashed potatoes, green bean casserole, two question marks. That's. That's the whole question. Green bean casserole.

[C]

No, that's your favorite, right?

[B]

No, corn souffle is my favorite, but I do like your favorite. Green castle is great.

[A]

I will have zero green bean casserole.

[C]

Corn souffle has to make you shiitake mushrooms.

[B]

No, why would it?

[A]

Probably ever again in my life.

[B]

Pumpkin roll or pumpkin pie?

[C]

Pumpkin pie.

[A]

I would rather just have, like, a can of green beans. We'll put them in a bowl and microwave them.

[B]

The thing is, Heath, you can make green bean casserole in so many different ways that I think I could find a good version of it for you.

[A]

Yeah, if. If we're calling it a casserole because we just cook bacon and mix it in with the green beans and that's the casserole, then I'd be okay with it.

[B]

No, I mean, you put the green bean, you get. You get like some mushroom soup in there. You get no fried, crispy. Fried onions on top. You put some cheese on there.

[A]

No.

[B]

All right.

[C]

Did you make your corn souffle yet?

[B]

No. It's so easy to make. We'll make it tomorrow. Green bean casserole or broccoli cheese casserole?

[A]

It's Thanksgiving.

[B]

Yeah. These are Thanksgiving.

[A]

Why would I eat these things on Thanksgiving?

[B]

Because everybody, casserole.

[A]

Give me mashed potatoes. Give me stuffing. Put gravy over all of it. A little bit of homemade cranberries on the side and some pumpkin pie and some pecan pie. It's Thanksgiving.

[B]

Cranberry sauce. Yay or nay?

[A]

If yes, as long. But cranberry sauce preferably. In my opinion, not just dump the can out.

[B]

Turkey or ham?

[C]

It's the best. Avatar. Yeah, it is.

[B]

Turkey or ham?

[C]

Turkey.

[A]

I will eat both. But on Thanksgiving, it's turkey, it's ham.

[B]

And this is here. Eric or Eric says Heath continues with takes that live inside my head. You guys are. Yeah, you guys are simpatico.

[C]

What have we learned today? We learned that you still think Die Hard is not a Christmas movie. You think that a stadium is not a building.

[B]

I used to think that.

[A]

And you'd rather have green bean casserole and mashed potatoes?

[B]

No, I don't know if I said that it was.

[C]

I don't think. Hold on. I don't know if we've ever done the three of us, two shows in one day. This is gonna be fun because, like, now you got Heath all riled up and now you got to deal with him at night when he's cranky.

[B]

Tell you what I do, man. Two shows at the same time. All right, we'll be back at 9. 00pm starter sit for the AFC home games. There are very few NFC home games this week, by the way, so we'll be borrowing for the from the afc. We'll talk to you then. Thanks, everybody. Paramount podcasts CBS Tonight I run to.

[A]

The chaos and Survivor is chaos.

[B]

As a mother of a four year old, this is vacation this season. They're going back home. It's trial by the elements.

[C]

Surprise. I'm on Survivor.

[A]

That's how you do it. Survivors.

[B]

Survivor feels like a culmination of my entire life. Everything has led to this moment. Who will have what it takes? Survivor new CBS tonight at 8. 7 Central and streaming on Paramount.

[C]

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