Live Mock Draft With Industry Experts! (05/07 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Fantasy Football Today Podcast

Live Mock Draft With Industry Experts! (May 7, 2026)

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Episode Overview

This episode features a live fantasy football mock draft with leading industry experts. Host Adam Aizer is joined by CBS Sports regulars Dave Richard, Jamie Eisenberg, and Heath Cummings, as well as Jake Seeley (The Athletic) and Joe Pisapia (Fantasy Pros). The 12-team, half-PPR, three-wide receiver mock draft simulates high-level strategy and player valuations for 2026, with extensive discussion around positional tiers, draft philosophies, and evolving expectations for the new fantasy season.

Listeners are treated to real-time reactions, banter, and sharp insights—the episode is especially rich in practical draft advice and live player evaluation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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Draft Structure & Early Strategy

• Format: 12 teams, half PPR, three WRs, one Flex, one TE, one QB.
• Early picks trended more RB-heavy than typical recent years due to the half-PPR scoring, but the panel debated the wisdom of chasing WRs early versus securing running back studs.
• Draft Order/Guests: Jake Seeley picks first, Joe Pisapia picks ninth, Adam Aizer picks eighth, Dave Richard fifth, Jamie Eisenberg second. Heath Cummings has a turn pick at the end.
• Early off-board: Bijan Robinson, Jameer Gibbs, JSN, Jamar Chase, Jonathan Taylor

“Half PPR kind of says it all. We're back to 2000 fantasy football drafting, baby. Give me those running backs.” – Dave Richard (04:12)

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Reaction to Unusual Early Picks

• JSN as First WR: Jake Seeley voices mild surprise but doesn’t call it crazy given the top tier ambiguity.

  “It wouldn’t be my first wide receiver... I would go Nakua still as long as Matthew Stafford's playing.” – Jake Seeley (05:01)

• Running Back Emphasis: Consensus is that half-PPR brings RBs back to the forefront, but the panel still debates pick value.

• CD Lamb Falls: Group surprised that CeeDee Lamb falls out of Round 1, with Jake saying he'd go Lamb over Jefferson.

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Key Rounds: Notable Picks, Debates, and Strategy

Round 1-2 Tactics

• Joe Pisapia targets Justin Jefferson at pick 9, citing his upside and improved QB play.

  “Best thing you could do at the end of a draft is try to say who's going to outperform this ADP by a landslide. I think Jefferson's that guy.” – Joe Pisapia (07:24)

• Adam passes on CeeDee Lamb for Amon-Ra St. Brown: surprise and group critique.

• Multiple guests emphasize the importance of positional runs (especially with RBs and later TEs).

The Tight End Debate

• Early tight ends: Jamie and Dave debate waiting in half-PPR vs. chasing the top tier (McBride, Bowers, Loveland).
• Value pick: “When I see Pickens as my last WR in that tier, I want to lock that in, see what RBs make it back.” – Dave (11:03)
• Joe nabs Colston Loveland:

  “When you’re paying attention to the end of the year for the Bears, it’s very clear Colston Loveland...is the constant going forward in that offense.” (17:03)

Injury Risk & Roster Construction (Heath Cummings)

• Heath doubles up on RBs coming off major injuries (Quinshon Judkins, Cam Skattebo), with the panel noting the risk but acknowledging potential league-winning upside.

  “If those guys hit to the level that they're capable of, he has a pretty good chance to win the league.” – Jamie (18:31)

WR/RB Depth & Value

• The group tracks positional tiers, noting when to pivot on depth (Evans, Price, Alec Pierce as value picks).
• Joe on Alec Pierce:

  “Whenever you take an early TE...your WR2 situation isn't going to be ideal. Your TE acts as more of a WR2,” (30:56)

• Tight end run in rounds 5-6 starts with Kraft, Laporta, Warren, Sadiq, Fannin.

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QBs: Timing and Value

• First QB (Josh Allen) goes in round 4, followed by Lamar Jackson, with many starters falling deep into the draft.
• Jake lands Jaden Daniels in Round 7, citing high upside and value.

  “He was basically QB6... and you got him as QB5 in the seventh round.” – Adam (36:06)

• Dave lands Caleb Williams in round 11:

  “That's what you've got to do at quarterback this year, get one at excellent value." – Dave (67:09)

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Notable Quotes & Banter

• On Trolling and Friendly Rivalry:

  “I trash talk him because he's my friend. That's what friends do. They trash talk each other to their faces.” – Joe Pisapia (05:55)

• On Tight End Value:

  “If you don't get the top five or six [TEs], they're all the same. You're talking about the difference between 9 points per game and 8.3 per game.” – Jake Seeley (51:06)

• On Draft Philosophy:

  “Drafts are about taking talent... you worry about position stuff later. If you can get talent on your roster, then you're winning.” – Joe Pisapia (71:00)

• Humor & Media:

  "I'm getting serious 'I've never seen Billy Madison' vibes from Jake Seeley right now..." – Adam Aizer (25:11)

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Notable Picks by Round (with Timestamps and Speaker Attribution)

First Five Picks

• [04:40] Bijan Robinson (1), Jameer Gibbs (2), JSN (3), Jamar Chase (4), Jonathan Taylor (5)
• Dave takes Jonathan Taylor, justifying value in half-PPR and team composition.

Early Value Flips

• [08:51] CeeDee Lamb drops to 14th, noted by Jake as an unexpected slide.

  “CD Lamb feels chalky outside of the CD Lamb. I'm surprised he fell out of the first round at this point.” – Jake (08:51)

Tight End Run Starts

• [17:03] Joe selects Colston Loveland as TE3, following McBride and Bowers.
• [30:56] Massive tight end run: Kraft, Laporta, Warren, Sadiq, Fannin — underscores dearth after the top tier.

Quarterback Patience Pays

• [22:19, 42:13 and 67:09] Josh Allen first off the board in mid-round 4, Daniels in round 7, Caleb Williams in round 11.

Positional Debates

• [14:47] Panel splits on Jeremiah Love vs. Ken Walker (split panel: Walker wins 3-1 among experts).
• [38:40] Jamie weighs RB (Pollard, Warren, Dowdle) vs. WR (Metcalf, Lemon, Tyson) as the stronger value in late rounds.

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‘Who Won the Draft?’ – Expert Team Summaries (Timestamps reference draft reviews between 61:40–75:00)

Jake Seeley (The Athletic) – Pick 1

• Built WR-heavy with major upside: Malik Nabers, Chris Olave, Davante Adams, DJ Moore.
• Bijan Robinson + David Montgomery at RB; waited on TE.
• QB: Jaden Daniels in round 7, maximizing value late.

  “Would change draft strategy out of that. The bench depth is mostly for upside at this point.” – Jake (61:47)

Jamie Eisenberg (CBS) – Pick 2

• RB-heavy with Gibbs, Jacobs, RB depth; early TE in McBride.
• WRs: waited until round 4 (Burden, McConkey, Marvin Harrison Jr.), some risk with upside.

  “I think running backs will carry me and if McBride is as good as he is capable of being, then I have a significant edge at that spot.” – Jamie (64:51)

Dave Richard (CBS) – Pick 5

• Two RBs in first three picks (Taylor, Love), Pickens as his WR1 with deep core (Abuka, Waddle).
• Values late QB (Caleb Williams in round 11), excellent value on Tony Pollard (round 7) and Fannin at TE.

  “That's a really good WR trio to go with two really good, promising, high upside RBs.” – Dave (65:23)

Adam Aizer (Host) – Pick 8

• St. Brown as anchor, value WR grabs (Devonta Smith, Mike Evans).
• RBs: Hampton, Ken Walker in rounds 2-3; Warren at flex.
• QB: Joe Burrow, TE: Isaiah Likely (round 10).

  “A lot of picks just kind of fell in my lap.” – Adam (68:37)

Joe Pisapia (Fantasy Pros) – Pick 9

• Jefferson in first, loaded up on upside RBs (Chase Brown, Breece Hall, Jadarian Price) and rookie WRs.
• Early TE (Loveland) alters WR construction; trusts bench to develop into starting assets.

  “When you can get that talent on your roster in the draft, then you're winning...Arande Gadsden should not be on the board.” – Joe (71:00)

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Lessons, Thematic Highlights & Emerging Trends

1. Half PPR Drafting Shifts RB Value: Multiple experts revert to RB-first priorities, recognizing the changed calculus sans full PPR.
2. Knowing (and Exploiting) Positional Tiers: Both WR and TE runs demonstrate the importance of snagging the last player in a tier before a positional cliff.
3. Tight End Approach Varied: Early run on top TEs, but general agreement that, outside the top handful, late picks/waivers can suffice.
4. Quarterbacks Fall Deep: Several reliable QBs, and even upside options, fall as late as rounds 7–11, allowing for "wait and see" approaches.
5. Debate Over Injury Risk vs. League-Winners: Heath’s “double injury risk” RB draft polarizes opinion but is recognized for its swing-for-the-fences upside.
6. Rookies & Changing Situations: Panelists repeatedly stress the evolving ADP and projection context for incoming rookies and teams with coaching or personnel shifts.

Notable advice:

“Drafts are about taking talent...worry about position later...injuries happen, waivers pop up, only get one first shot at acquiring talent.” – Joe Pisapia (71:00)

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Memorable Moments (Quotes & Timestamps)

• Best Justification for a Pick:

  “I'm back to 2000 fantasy football drafting, baby. Give me those running backs!” – Dave Richard (04:12)

• Peer Ribbing & Fun:

  “I trash talk him because he's my friend. And that's what friends do. They trash talk each other to their faces.” – Joe Pisapia (05:55)

• On Later Tight End Tiers:

  “If you don’t get the top five or six, they're all the same.” – Jake Seeley (51:06)

• On Gadsden’s Upside:

  “I don’t know what Gadsden’s ceiling is...that is something really fascinating to see if that can develop...” – Joe Pisapia (72:10)

• On Mock Draft Purpose:

  "That's why we do mock drafts. I probably would have let Adams or More sit on the board and went with a running back." – Jake Seeley (61:47)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Intro & First 2 Rounds: 02:01–10:14
• Positional Debates & Runs: 14:47–31:30
• Tight End Philosophy: 17:03, 30:56, 51:06
• Quarterbacks Off the Board: 22:19, 42:13, 67:09
• Draft Team Reviews: 61:40–75:00

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Final Takeaways

• Mock Draft Value: Real-time strategy shifts, discussion of positional cliffs, and strong, sometimes contrarian opinions equip fantasy players for unpredictable drafts.
• Engagement and Expertise: The camaraderie and friendly ribbing among experts make for a lively draft room and present a variety of approaches, all grounded in sharp fantasy analysis.

For listeners, this episode is a masterclass in draft dynamics—providing insight not only on specific players and picks, but on advanced draft strategy, adaptability, and maximizing value throughout a draft.

Transcript

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[Dave]

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[Joe]

This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave,

[Adam]

Jamie and Dijon Robinson. First pick. Oh, terrible pick. Jake Seeley. What are you doing? Just kidding. Welcome everybody. Jake Seeley of the Athletic is here. Joe Piece of PIA from fantasy pros is here. Joe, Jake, Jake, Joe. Glad you guys are meeting. What's going on? Jake, how do you.

[Joe]

First time.

[Adam]

How do you. How do you feel about having the first pick in a draft? Do you like picking first?

[Jake Seeley]

Not so much this year, but as I told Jamie before we came on, yes, I finally get the first pick in a draft. That doesn't really Matter for the competition that we're in every single year.

[Adam]

Oh, there you go. And Joe, you have the best pick in the draft because you get to pick after me. And what? I. I can't. I'm not a good drafter to begin with, but when I'm hosting, I'm even worse. So. Congratulations.

[Joe]

Yes, I. I requested that specifically from Jamie in the draft order. I said I want to draft right after Adam. So he continuously makes bad decisions the entire time. Like that tuxedo I heard that you wore on the show the other day. Lots of bad decisions around the Azer household going on. But yeah, excited to be here today and excited to continue my week of listening to Jake Seeley complain about things on shows. Oh, I got the first pick in a draft. It doesn't count. Shut up, Cely. Just draft.

[Adam]

I don't really feel like I'm gonna have to do a lot of work today. This is great. I have so many hosts here that could just take over. Dave and Jamie are also here. Hello, Dave.

[Dave]

Shut up, Azer. By the way, I do think the. The tuxedo was a hit.

[Adam]

I.

[Dave]

People were loving it. The comments in the chat were great. The comments in the. On the video on YouTube after the fact were awesome. I. I think you should wear the tuxedo at least once a week moving forward.

[Adam]

No. Geez. Yeah. As long as my wife is home to do. Do the bow tie for me because I could not do that on my own. All right, we are five picks in. And Jamie, by the way, in. In all seriousness, thank you for organizing this draft and getting these guests on our show. Jamie is responsible for the content today. Good, Good stuff. We have a 12 team half PPR draft and right now our guy Brandon is on the clock. The first five picks were Bijan Robinson, Jameer Gibbs, Jackson Smith in Jigba Jamar Chase, and Jonathan Taylor. Dave, you took Jonathan Taylor in half PPR over Pukinakua. I don't usually see Taylor go fifth.

[Dave]

Discuss half PPR kind of says it all. We know that Puka Nuku in a full PPR league would be the better pick, but I'm already. I'm back to 2000 fantasy football drafting, baby. Give me those running backs. Not necessarily in full PPR this soon, but in half PPR non ppr. Absolutely. I think Taylor is great. He's the third running back on my board. This is. This is a stud player that I can get in round one when catches don't count for nearly as much.

[Adam]

Okay. We are still waiting on the Sixth pick. Sometimes it takes guys a little while to get into the draft. Is anybody. So with JSN actually going as the first receiver off the board. Okay, there's Puka. I was waiting for that. Jsn, the first receiver off the board, Jake Seeley. What do you think about that and half ppr?

[Jake Seeley]

It wouldn't be my first wide receiver, but I don't have a problem with it. You're picking between Chase, Nakua and Smith and Jig. But if you want to take jsn, I'm okay with it. I would go Nakua still as long as Matthew Stafford's playing one more year. But if you want to go jsn, it's not like you're crazy to do so.

[Adam]

All right, our first six picks are. Bijan, Gibbs, jsn, Jamar, Chase, Jonathan Taylor, Puka, Nakua, Adam. Yeah.

[Dave]

Who led that group of six in half PPR points per game last year?

[Adam]

Oh, hookah.

[Dave]

Nope. Anybody else want to guess? Joe, Jake, Jamie. Anybody else whose name begins with a J?

[Jake Seeley]

I feel like you're setting us up for the fact that it's Taylor.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah. As well.

[Jamie]

So.

[Dave]

See, Jake was right.

[Joe]

I don't know why you trash talk him, Joe.

[Dave]

Jake is. Jake is accurate.

[Joe]

I trash talk him because he's my friend. And that's what friends do. They trash talk each other to their faces. Bad.

[Jake Seeley]

Yeah. Clown.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Jackass.

[Adam]

All right, Christian McCaffrey was the seventh pick. I will take Aman Ross, St. Brown with the eighth pick. Joe, you're on the clock with the ninth pick.

[Joe]

Well, I was hoping Jonathan Taylor was going to make it down to me, but unfortunately Dave Richards in this draft, so I have to come up with other plans here. And I'm glad I didn't have to make the Christian McCaffrey decision because he makes it all the way down to a 10, which is where I am, I believe, here today. Right. Or I'm a nine. Sorry, it's hard to say no, but there's so many concerns of saying yes based on the workload last year. So I'm gonna take Justin Jefferson because I think everyone forgets that, you know, last year was such a disaster with the quarterback position. I just don't think it's going to be nearly disaster with Kyler Murray. I think Kyler Murray's got a lot to prove. I think Kyler Murray's in fork in a row his career. I understand the limitations of Kyler Murray. I think we all do. But at the same time, it's a massive upgrade over Whatever they had last year. And Justin Jefferson's not that far removed from being the number one overall pick consideration. So I'll take him at 109 even in the half PBR of a comment

[Adam]

comment in the chat that Joe and Jake won't get. But who did Adam take at 108 instead of CD Lamb? Was it a. I'm on Ross St. Brown. What a game show. Azer. Yes, thank you. It was I'm on say Brown. Justin Jefferson goes ninth. We're waiting for the 10th pick. Joe, do you think you could have gotten Jefferson with the what, 13, 14, 16th pick?

[Joe]

I don't know and I wasn't gonna wait to find out. I. I think for me I want to take the guys that I know are just all world players. And when you look at the board as well, I think there are some guys now coming back to me that I feel okay at the running back position and I feel okay at the wide receiver position. But I'm trying to think what kind of home run can I hit here? And I think the only guy in this list of players still left there, maybe Saquon's that guy. Maybe still. But Jefferson, to me, still in the prime of his career. I think I will take my chances there. Cause the best thing you could do at the end of a draft is try to say who's going to outperform this ADP potentially by a landslide. And I think Jefferson's that guy remaining on the board.

[Adam]

All right, after Jefferson, Devon Hn is the pick. And then we had back to back. Heath Cummings went receiver, receiver and a half PPR league. Now this is a three receiver league. I should mention that he went with Rasheed Rice and Drake London.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Adam]

And we have, we have a lot of, you know, enticing running backs available. Chase Brown, Ashton Genty, Josh Jacobs, Omarion Hampton, Derek Henry, Saquon Barkley, Jeremiah Love, Ken Walker. That's why I took St. Brown. Not that that's not the only reason why, but considering some of the running backs, I felt a lot better about the running backs I'd be able to get with the fifth pick of round two than the wide receivers. So we'll see what happens. There's a few picks between now and then. CD lamb off the CD lamb 14th. That's just weird. Yeah, right. Jake, any thoughts on what we've seen transpire here? The last four picks have been Cook, James Cook, Rashee Rice, Drake London.

[Jake Seeley]

CD Lamb feels chalky outside of the CD Lamb. I'm surprised that he fell out of the first round at this point. Like, I know that George Pickens was right there with him in points per game and he's back, but I mean, we're talking about. It's still CD Lamb when healthy, still top five. I would take. I don't. Joe just. I was talking about the home run with Jefferson. I still take him over Jefferson.

[Adam]

Okay. And Joe, you took Jefferson and now you're on the clock. And since you took Jefferson, H.N. cook. And four receivers have been picked. Rice, London Lamb, Nico Collins was the last pick, 16th overall. You are up. Who are you gonna take?

[Joe]

Yeah, again, I like all these running backs here, especially in half ppr. Chase Brown's there, Derrick Henry's there, Ashton Genti's there. I'm gonna take Chase Brown and see where that one goes. And going off Jamie Eisenberg's ranks, it looks like he agrees with me, at least on cbs. So that's always a good thing. Jamie and I typically are in lockstep quite a bit, but this is why I went wide receiver, because I want to take the chance. I sure the guys that made it back to me are intriguing at the wide receiver position still. AJ Brown, depending on where he lands, is definitely that guy. But as you look after that, I think there's a lot of question marks. Whereas the running backs, I think they're all much closer to each other. So I'd rather get towards the end of a first round one of those stud wide receivers. Lock that in Omari and Hampton, I would have been happy with Saquon. I would have been fine with. And even Derek Henry to a certain degree too. I mean, half ppr, we're looking for yards, we're looking for touchdowns. And Henry brings you all that still again, I think in 2026.

[Adam]

Okay, well, I hate you because I was going to take Chase Brown, I will take Omari.

[Joe]

Now I'm rethinking my pick that you

[Adam]

said I'll take Omarion Hampton. Yeah, you can make an argument that Brown is more of a PPR. Chase Brown's more of a PPR guy, but he averaged 19 points per game and half PPR in the last six games of the season with Joe Burrow. But he only hit that number twice. He was actually 16 and a half or fewer in four of six games. He had two massive games, 30 points and 27 and a half points for Chase Brown in week 16 and 17. But still great pick there. So I'll go Hampton. The best receivers on the board would be guys like Malik, Neighbors, George Pickens A.J. brown, T. Higgins. So I think we're going to see a run on running backs here. And we are. Chase Brown, Amarian Hampton, Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry and Dave, you are on the clock. And you took. Who'd you take?

[Dave]

I haven't picked anybody.

[Adam]

No. Taylor. You took Taylor in the first round.

[Dave]

Oh, yeah, I took him.

[Adam]

All right, so we haven't had it. We haven't had a tight end. We haven't had a tight end yet. Throwing that out.

[Dave]

I'm. I'm considering McBride, but the half PPR thing throws me off. And I wonder if Bowers might make it back to me in round two or round three, rather. And even if he doesn't, there's the Loveland, Warren Fanon trio that I can pick up in rounds four and five, or at least I should be able to, in theory, in half PPR. So I'm passing on McBride and half PPR. My top rated wide receiver that's left is Pickens. There was a draft that we did recently where I. I passed on Pickens and I went back to back running backs, but Pickens was, like, the only wide receiver left in my queue that was in that last tier. I'm gonna see what it looks like when I take Pickens. I'm gonna draft Pickens now and see what running backs make it back to me in round three. And I think I'll feel good about one of them when I. When I'm up. And then I'll have two stud running backs, one stud wide receiver, and the team will be off and running. I'll feel better about that type of build.

[Adam]

Well, when I look at the running backs, I look at your rankings right now. Josh Jacobs, Jeremiah Love, Ken Walker, Kyro.

[Dave]

Those are not. Those aren't updated.

[Jake Seeley]

Unless.

[Dave]

What are you looking at? Are you looking in the draft room or the site?

[Adam]

Yes, the draft room.

[Dave]

Draft room. For some reason, they're not updated properly.

[Adam]

All right. But they're probably pretty close. And two of them just went Kyron Williams and Josh Jacobs. So I don't know how many of these running backs you're going to be in. You might be in the ETN Cam Scatterboo range. Now, if you get Love or Walker, I'm sure you'd be happy. But you know what? Who cares about you?

[Dave]

Well, the alternative to that is if there is a big running back run that might push one of those stud tight ends back to me. Yeah, Round three, which is not something that I was necessarily counting on, but

[Adam]

I will happily accept all right, so, Jamie, so after Dave took Pickens, we had Genti Kyron and Josh Jacobs. We had a big running back run in round two. Jake was on the clock with two picks. And after taking Bijan Robinson, what did you do with your two, three turn picks?

[Jake Seeley]

I was hoping to have no healthy wide receivers from week one, so I took Jake Neighbors and Chris Olave and that's my top two options there. Similar to what Joe said, though, but I kind of feel like I'm in the position to take a little bit bigger swings when you're at the one or the two and you have a Gibbs or Robinson to take that shot. So I'll see if I might head with the what hero RB quote unquote situation right here. But I felt like getting the two wide receivers mostly seeing what's probably going to come back around and the end of the fourth, I don't think the wide receivers that I want are going to be there. So if I took a running back, which there is value in Walker, I love, I just felt like I'd be kind of reaching for wide receivers at that point.

[Adam]

Dave, I think this worked out for you. The tight ends are gone. After Jake took Neighbors in olave, we got McBride, then Bucky Irving, then Brock Bowers, which gives you Jeremiah Love and Ken Walker to choose from. Or if you went wide receiver, you've got a booka. A.J. brown.

[Dave]

Oh, A.J.

[Jake Seeley]

brown.

[Adam]

T. Higgins. Got some good options here.

[Dave]

I do, but I had a feeling that some of the running backs that I was looking at in round three would make it back to me in round four. And if they weren't there, one of the tight ends probably would have been this worked out great. I'm going to take Jeremiah Love. I've been outspoken on how I feel about his talent. I think the workload will be there for him in Arizona. Little bit worried about the touchdown production because it is the Cardinals. I don't know if they're going to be nearly as high scoring of an offense as they were last year. Part of it was because they played in a lot of garbage time. But he's too good and that offensive line isn't too terrible at this point. I don't mind taking him ahead of Kenneth Walker.

[Adam]

All right, I'm going to ask the other three people in this group here. Jamie, Ken Walker, Jeremiah Love, half ppr, Walker for me.

[Jake Seeley]

Jake Walker for me as well.

[Joe]

Joe Clean Sweep still. Walker for me also.

[Adam]

Okay, Jamie, you so far with the second pick. Have Gibbs, Jacobs and McBride, I guess talk to me about your McBride pick. And in a three receiver league, you went with a tight end there. So you do not have a wide receiver yet and you won't be picking again until the 11th pick of round four.

[Jamie]

Yeah, I, you know, sort of played it out as it fell to me where both tight ends were available so I didn't have to take, you know, to me, McBride and Bowers, there's, you know, they're so close, so much upside for both those guys. So I was gonna just see if Jake took one of them and I would have taken the other who was available when, when I was up in round two. And so Jacobs is right there for me with Walker and with Love. You know, I think that tier of running backs, I like them all three of those guys better than Kyron, for example, but Kyron's right after those guys. So as, as Dave sort of alluded to, you know, this is more, I think at the top of the draft if you're not getting one of those, you know, I don't know if Nico's kind of the cut off, but if you're not able to sort of see how the, the receivers fall to you. So, you know, maybe Pickens, I guess is the last one. So those, those guys all off the board. To me, the tight ends make more sense than the receivers that were available. I don't mind neighbors in Olave, But I think McBride and, and Bowers give you a little bit higher end production at that position. So I was going to take the, the running back that was there. And then whichever tight end Jake didn't take, he didn't take either one. So McBride's still my number one tight end for now.

[Adam]

All right. After Jamie took McBride, we had Bucky Irving, Brock Bowers, Dave took Jeremiah Love, Jameson Williams went 30th, and then I think the next two picks, 31 and 32, are arguably the two best picks of the draft so far. Very handsome people taking them. R.J. white took A.J. brown, I took Ken Walker. Ken Walker, 32 overall. Yeah. And we haven't even had a quarterback get drafted yet, so that's. I just won the draft. All right, Joe, interesting pick for you after you were reeling from me taking Ken Walker, obviously you went with Colston Loveland, our third tight end off the board. So that gives you Justin Jefferson, Chase Brown and Colson Loveland. Why did you take Loveland there?

[Joe]

Yeah, I mean, I'm talking about guys who are going to probably finish in the top five of their position. And now I've got three of those guys on my roster. And I like the way that looks. I think when you're paying attention to the end of the year for the Bears, it's very clear that Coulson Loveland's kind of taken over and been the dominant force. And I think the big conversation that's been going on, it's, oh, is it Roma Dunesday? Is it Luther Burden? How do we value these guys? And we had a great conversation on FP Paul the other day about it where I said, I think, I don't think the question is which wide receiver every week. It's which wide receiver and Colston Love on every week. I think Love one is the guy every week that you can depend on. Whereas it could be a Luther Burden game, it could be in a Dunesday game if he's all healthy and ready to go. And you know, I, to me, I think Love one is the constant going forward in that offense. The way they kind of showed their hand not just to the end of the season, but through the rest of the playoffs as well.

[Adam]

I don't like what Heath did at the turn here. So after Joe took.

[Jake Seeley]

Because I. Speaking of not having healthy things in week one.

[Joe]

Yeah, well, double dipping though, in it too. I mean, hey, you want double wide receiver, double double rb. Why not?

[Adam]

I. So I'll get to that one second. So he took Loveland, PCPA took a Loveland. Then we had Rob took Tedro, McMillan, T. Higgins went 35th and then Heath took Quintean, Judkins and Cam Scatter Boo. I personally would not. Jamie, I would not take two running backs coming off very serious injuries. As my first two running backs. I, I don't. I think I probably would have split them. I don't hate their values or anything. But two, both of them is a little too risky for me.

[Jamie]

I mean, it's definitely risky. But you are talking about, you know, this is the range where these guys are going to come off the board. These are two guys that have seemingly, I don't want to say beat their rehab but, you know, are on pace or, or slightly ahead of where I think people thought they would be. Scatter Boo. Participating in April's off season workouts. You know, Judkins, you know, on track for training camp. I think if you're, if you're hopeful for those two guys and you saw what they were able to do in their rookie seasons and you see the path to success. You know, Jake sort of alluded to this picking at. At the one spot, Heath is at the other end. Like if he's going to get players that he wants, he's got to do it when they're available to him. They're not going to fall back to him. So maybe you split it and take Javonte and one of those guys if that's the route you want to go. But Keith is probably looking at it. If those guys hit to the level that they're capable of, he has a pretty good chance to win the league because of how, how, you know, they looked in their rookie campaign.

[Adam]

All right, Joe is on the clock. So after we had Judkins and scatterboo at the 3, 4 turn, we had Javante Williams go with the second pick of round three, Garrett Wilson with the third pick of round round four. Sorry, third pick of round four. And now Joe on the clock at 4.4 with Jefferson, Chase Brown. Oh, I'm on the clock. Jefferson, Chase Brown and Colson Loveland. Who did you take, Joe?

[Joe]

I took Breeze hall, who again, I think the jets offensive line is pretty good. I think they did a good job in the draft. I still have very little faith in the coach or the quarterback situation, which leads me to believe they're going to be a run heavy team regardless of whatever new toys that they picked up in the NFL draft this year. So I think Breece hall is your number two running back considering last year. Once again, I think so far the theme of this draft for me is guys who are kind of underappreciated going into or maybe valued very highly last year, then didn't perform well last season and now I think now are being underappreciated. I think that's kind of something you should look forward to in drafts too and saying, well, where's the talent of this player and did the situation get better or worse? And I think Jefferson situation got better. I think Breeze hall situation got slightly better as well. And I think that you're still looking at very good talents still in the prime of their careers and I think those are guys still worth investing in. I wanted Javonte Williams to be clear. He went two picks ahead of me. I was curious about Cam Scatter Boo and Quinch on Judkins. I didn't think Heath was going to go for both of them. I was willing to take a shot on one of them as my second rb, but Heath Cummings said no, no to that. So yeah. So so far I actually kind of like this build. I'm curious to see what wide receivers make it back to me though when it comes back in round five.

[Adam]

All right, so Joe has Jefferson, Chase, Brown, Colson, Loveland and Breece Hall. I'll tell you, I made just another incredible pick. I'll tell you about it after the break. Or it's the if there's no A.J. brown trade. It's a horrible pick. I'll tell you about it after this break. On Fantasy Football today, when I'm looking

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[Adam]

Man Round 4 We went through this quickly. Cam Scatterboo, Javante Williams, Garrett Wilson, Breece hall to Joe. I took Devonte Smith 41st overall, Josh Allen 42nd overall. The first quarterback off the board and I was thinking about taking him but I know there'll be a good one available to me in the next round. I do, I do expect a lot of quarterbacks to be drafted here though. So we had Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson 43rd overall. Dave took a Mecca Abuka 44th overall. I know he was pumped about that pick. Zay Flowers 45th overall, Drake May, Luther Burden to Jamie and Devonte Adams to Jake to Finish out round four. Jake went with Devonte Adams and D.J.

[Jake Seeley]

moore.

[Adam]

So that's the last four picks have been his three starting receivers and his flex Malik neighbors, Crystal lave, Devonte Adams, DJ Moore to go with Bijan Robinson and Jamie took lad McConkey and then we had Terry McLaurin. Jamie, when you you took Luther Burden who you've been taking a lot. Whenever I see you picking like late in the fourth round, I feel like that's a guy you target. Did you feel like, did you feel like with this kind of little run of Garrett Wilson, devonte Smith, a Mecca, Buka Zay, Flowers? How does Burden compare to that group? Is he a little bit of a step down from Flowers, Abuka, Devonte Smith, Breeze hall or Garrett Wilson? Or is Burden like right there for you?

[Jamie]

He's right after those guys. But I mean, yes, he's a little bit of step down. Obviously you, you know, are hoping that Burden is going to take a step forward. As Joe said, it's. I agree with him. You know, it's Loveland and, you know, and so it's going to be Loveland and Odunze one week, Loveland and Burden one week, Loveland maybe by himself another week, you know, so it's going to be just, you know, kind of a guessing game with the Bears receivers. But, you know, we saw the upside and you know, the end of the while it was Loveland dominating targets in those final four games. Four of those five games, you know, right before Loveland sort of got going, when Odunze was still dealing with the foot injury, it was seven plus targets and four of five for Burton with DJ Moore still on the field.

[Adam]

Wait, can I interrupt you? I'm sorry, we have a draft room issue.

[Jamie]

Oh, excuse me.

[Adam]

We had an auto pick from Eric if you want to just back that one out. He's ready to go.

[Joe]

Is that a Billy Madison poll there?

[Adam]

No, it is by far. You know, it is.

[Dave]

You, you're, you're a real one if you know that that's from Billy Madison.

[Joe]

I. You know what makes me a real one, Dave?

[Adam]

I don't think so. I think it's pretty easy, to be quite honest. Are you kidding?

[Dave]

It is the most random part of a movie with a ton of random parts.

[Jamie]

Well, it's also, if you look in our draft room, that's Eric's avatar.

[Adam]

Yeah, it is.

[Dave]

Again, people, I don't, I don't think the average person who may have seen Billy Madison in their life 30 years ago would know that that sound clip is from Billy Madison or that that picture is of. What's his name? Bradley Whitford. The actor.

[Joe]

Bradley Whitford. That is correct.

[Adam]

Hey, I'm getting.

[Jamie]

That's also a good pull.

[Dave]

No one knows who he is. They just know him from, you know, the weird Weasley looking guy from Billy.

[Adam]

Matt. Dave, listen, you're on the clock But I'm getting serious. I've never seen Billy Madison vibes from Jake Seeley right now from the body

[Joe]

language, of course he has.

[Jake Seeley]

No, I've seen it. I just haven't seen it within the last 20, 25 years. I'm just more shocked at the memory between these guys. That's all it really comes down to.

[Joe]

I'm not in a video store in college, so.

[Jake Seeley]

Oh, I mean, so did I. But like I watch a lot of movies once and then that's it.

[Jamie]

That's.

[Jake Seeley]

I'm just. Because I know what happens with TV shows. No, I just, I have so much I want to consume. I just don't go back and watch again.

[Adam]

Yeah, that's fair. All right, so here's round five. DJ Moore, Lad McConkey, Terry McLaurin, Travis Etn, Jalen Waddle to Dave, Xavier Worthy to BRANDON, and now RJ's on the clock question for Jake Seeley. You took explain these two picks, right? So you had Bijan Malik, neighbors, Chris Olave, and then you go with Devonte Adams and DJ Moore. So in a three receiver league now you have four receivers. You did not take a running back there. You got two, you know, one old receiver, one guy who's 29 and DJ more like how. How good do you feel about those picks?

[Jake Seeley]

I feel great about them. I mean Devonte Adams in week 13 had three more touchdowns than anybody else receiving. And then a week 14 and then week 15 and week 16 and week 17 and week eight. Oh, by the way, he didn't play the last three weeks. He's just led in touchdowns. And I know everybody's like touchdowns isn't a skill but I actually believe with Devonte Adams and Matthew Stafford it is. And yeah, the re yards weren't there, but he also didn't play the entire season. So I'll take him here. I want to take Devonte Adams in the second, third round but at the end of the fourth and if you want to flip flop it with DJ Moore, I don't get why people aren't more excited about DJ Moore. We finally stopped. Well, the bill stopped screwing around with Josh Allen saying hey, let's make him elevate everybody and got him a one again. Again. Somebody who's been top 10 actually wide receiver back with Justin Field. You tell me he can't get back to being a wide receiver one with Josh Allen and again you're not taking him as that. You're taking them in the fifth round. Fourth. Fifth round.

[Adam]

Yeah, there you go for the four or five turn. All right. After more it was McConkey to Jamie, Terry McLaurin, Travis Etn H slash Hn to Eric, Jalen Waddle Dave Xavier Worthy, DeAndre Swift. I took Mike Evans and looking at the next wide receivers on the board, got Marvin Harrison Jr. You got Odunze, Alec Pierce, Sutton, Christian Watson. So I thought I really wanted to take Evans. I felt like there was a teardrop there. And then what did you do, Joe, with your pick? You came into that with Justin Jefferson, Chase Brown, Loveland and Breece Hall.

[Joe]

Well, you sniped me. I wanted Evans. I thought I was going to fall in my lap. I thought you might have kind of missed him with all the conversations you were having with Jake, but unfortunately you got me on that one. So kudos to you. Well done. Adam Mazer. I went ahead and I took pivot to what I thought was just the best asset on the board. It might start a little slow for Jadarian Price, like it does for a lot of young running backs. But to me, when you look at Seattle, what their identity was last year and the fact that Kenneth Walker's gone and the fact that Zach Charbonnet is not gonna be around until the end of November. Question mark. I know Jake and I have had this conversation plenty. Emmanuel Wilson, I think was admirable in his moments last year when he was taking over for Josh Jacobs. But if you're going to spend first round draft capital and you have your designs getting back into the playoffs and back to a Super bowl potentially, I think Jadarian Price is going to have a very heavy workload. And this is a team that's going to run the football quite a bit and play defense. That's their M.O. you're gonna see JSN, but I mean, Sam Darnold, despite the fact that he got to a Super bowl, won a Super bowl, still has some limitations on him. You have to run the football, you have to support him. And I just think that Jadarian Price is going to have a. A ton of work going forward as a rookie. And even if it's slow in September, I'm patient enough with my third running back there that I think it's a good pick.

[Adam]

Okay, so after. And it was. I was, I had him in my queue. I was deciding between Price and Evans. So I took Evans, you took Price, then we had Tucker Kraft as tight end four. So still Tyler Warren, Harold Fannin Jr. On the board. Carnell Tate. Oh, there's a rookie we haven't really talked about. It's been a while since we had a rookie get drafted. He's the second rookie. It's been a while.

[Dave]

You mean Jadarian Price isn't.

[Adam]

Oh,

[Joe]

look, it was almost three seconds. Guys, give him a break.

[Adam]

And then Trayvon Henderson, Sam Laporta, Tyler Warren, and there's RJ Harvey off the board. And Joe, you're on the clock.

[Jake Seeley]

Oh, running back. We haven't talked about one of those in a while either.

[Adam]

All right, Joe, your pick. You picked Alec Pierce. Sorry, I'm on the clock. Here's a tough call.

[Joe]

You. You make your pick, I'll talk. Alec Pierce was actually the guy that was debating between him and Price, so I'm very happy that he made it back to me. I thought there was a good chance at least one of the tight ends would go. Both went in between, so that kind of helped me bump. And sometimes you got to pay attention to that, too, right? You got to pay attention to what the teams have, you know, who are picking after you, especially if you're at like the 9, 10ish, because, you know, those turn guys are going to go ahead and make the most of their picks there because they don't pick again for a very long time. So for me, I was looking like. I feel like, you know, these elite tight ends at some point like this, this cabinet's going to be bare pretty soon, and these guys have to go. They got. You got to take a chance on guy like Warren or Kraft here. I think it makes a lot of sense, and I know we're in some smart people here in this draft. So to me, it was a good chance I could roll the dice and get Pierce back, and I did. So I'm quite happy with that. And I do think there's some other young wide receivers there worth taking. But look, I think whenever you take an early tight end, like a McBride or like a Loveland, when you go early, you know that your wide receiver two situation isn't going to be ideal. That's the point. The point is that your tight end acts as more of a wide receiver, too. So what you got to do is just build some quality in to those wide receiver two, wide receiver three, and then four positions, too, to give yourself a little depth.

[Adam]

Okay, so late in round five, to the middle of round six, we have had five tight ends come off the board. Tucker Kraft, Sam Laporta, Tyler Warren, Kenyon Siddiq, and Harold Fannin Jr. Sadiq before Fannin, too.

[Joe]

Holy hat.

[Adam]

Yeah. Brandon likes Kenyan Sadiq. He takes his guys. And now we have. What do we have? Christian Watson did. Jamie's on the clock. I'm gonna let Jamie talk through his pick, but then I think we should sort of. The picks are flying off the board here. Just sort of recap a lot of the picks. So, Jamie, you right now have Gibbs, Jacobs, McBride, Burden, and McConkey.

[Jamie]

Go ahead. Yeah. So there is a couple of running backs that I like here and a couple of receivers, and you have to play the board sometimes. And so looking at Jake's team, who's drafting after me, he's got four wide receivers and one running back. So I'm going to play the percentage here and hope that the receiver that I want comes back to me and take one of the running backs that I like, and Chuba Hubbard's that guy. I think the situation has worked out well for Chuba this off season so far. Rico Dowdle, leaving nobody up. Significant's coming. I know they're excited about. Jonathan Brooks, didn't play in 2025, coming off his second ACL tear since coming into the OR end of college, coming in the NFL. So I. I like Brooks. I think he's going to have a role. But I think Hubbard can hopefully get back to his 2024 level of production or at least close to that. And so he'll be my flex, and then we'll see what Jake does. I'll pivot if Jake does something different, which he did not. So the receiver that I was eyeing is still available, and I will take him next.

[Adam]

All right. Jake took Jaden Daniels and David Montgomery. You know, look, we have a lot of platoons in the NFL now, and I don't know how many running backs are left that are just going to get a big workload. David Montgomery might be one of the last ones. Tony Pollard still there. But I was definitely considering my tough call was Burrow versus Montgomery because, you know, I knew again, these. These workhorse running backs are basically, we're out of them. But Montgomery's, you know, he's just, like, not really that great anymore. I don't know. So I was like, I'll take a swing for Burrow. All right. George Kittle goes. Jamie. Oh, Jamie took Marvin Harrison Jr. All right. Then George Kittle went off the board, and now he's on the clock, and Dave is on deck. But I'm gonna read you guys picks from rounds five and six. We're in round seven now. And just tell me, like, anyone can jump in if there's a really good pick or a really bad pick. Pick in rounds five and six. DJ Moore, Lad McConkey, Terry McLaurin, Travis Etn, Jalen Waddle, Xavier Worthy. Stop me if you hear any DeAndre Swift, Mike Evans, great pick. Jadarian Price, Tucker Crafts, Carnell Tate, Trayvon Henderson.

[Joe]

Well, I still like Terry McLaurin. I, I still don't see a whole lot of competition for him. I think we could all pretty much predict how last year was going to go because everything broke right for the Commanders two years ago. And then last year, whenever you get a player that holds out, inevitably they come in and everybody, they come in late and everybody, they have injuries. So I think you could kind of chalk that one up. But McLaren's been so consistent. He's still the man there as far as I'm concerned. So I think McLaren's still a very solid pick in that grouping there.

[Adam]

Okay. I think Worthy probably is a guy that went a little early just based on his struggles last year. And we've got in round six, LaPorta, Tyler Warren. We have RJ Harvey. Trying to read and keep getting picks inputted here. Sorry. R.J. harvey, Alec Pierce, Joe Burrow, Romo Dunes, A Kenyan Sadiq. Little early. Harold Fanon, Christian Watson, Cortland Sutton, Chuba Hubbard, David Montgomery. Dave. Any picks that stand out to you?

[Dave]

Well, we can talk about Sadiq, and that was a pick by Brandon. Brandon's one of our editors. He just, he goes with the guys that he likes. He typically prefers measuring his players based on speed and athletic traits rather than roll in the offense or anything else like that. He took Worthy in the round before. I don't know if those are going to be picks that we'll see in typical drafts once we get to August and September. I think those guys are going to go a little bit later, and I don't know if that necessarily messes up the order that much for, for how we go about drafting, but it helped me land Harold Fannin in round six, which in a half ppr I still think is incredibly good value. So I, I, I, when I, I know that when I picked Fanon, Jaden Daniels was on the board. I thought that was an incredible value. I believe Montgomery was still on the board. I was considering him to be my third running back. I just, I couldn't pass up getting a tight end that I know I'd feel good about starting week in and week out, knowing that maybe one of the other running backs that are in that it's called fourth tier could make it back to me the following round and that I could Always wait on a quarterback, feel like I'm stealing one from the rest of the league and. And take some of those guys a

[Jamie]

little bit later on.

[Dave]

That's why I took Fanish.

[Jake Seeley]

All I heard was that Jake's picks of David Montgomery and Jaden Daniels were amazing.

[Dave]

They were. They were both on my cube.

[Adam]

Yeah. Jaden Daniels was in just. He played four healthy games. Four games. And in those games in a six point per passing touchdown league, he was basically QB6 based on the 23 points per game. And you got him at as I think QB5, but you got him in the seventh round. So Daniels, Marvin Harrison Jr. George Kittle, Basil Tutin, Tony Pollard. That's who I really wanted. Kyle Pitts, dk. Oh, Dave took Tony Pollard, Kyle Pitts, DK Metcalf. I took Jalen Warren as my flex and Makai Lemon to Joe. Joe, we haven't. That's. Is. That's your first rookie. No, just kidding.

[Dave]

You took Jadarian this, this round.

[Adam]

Yeah. You took Lemon over Tyson, who I'm considering taking in this in the next round if he's available. Why limit. Why Lemon over Tyson? Yeah.

[Joe]

If somebody else picks before you.

[Adam]

So you're gonna take them both?

[Joe]

I just might. I'm just, you know, we'll see how it goes. I've got some other guys in the queue there, but I think Makai Lemon is the guy that will automatically see, look, no matter how much more workload you think when A.J. brown gets traded that Devonte Smith is going to see somebody else is going to get a fair amount of targets. And I think it's clear it's Makai Lemon. I think that's why, despite the fact that I don't love Howie Roseman's track record taking wide receivers and drafts, he's great at what he does, but the wide receiver track record has not been great for him over the. Over the years. I do think this time they recognize somebody that really can fit in well, hit the ground running. You know, we've heard the Amon Ross, st. Brown comparisons. I think that's a little lofty, but I think in terms of stylistically you can understand it. He's going to fight for footballs. He's, you know, got that dog at him. He's a very mercurial personality, which will either be huge in Philadelphia or a complete train wreck or both at any given time. And I think that Lemon is a guy that I feel very confident that he will be able to get in there right away, be on the field and actually Contribute in fantasy. So as my third wide receiver, I feel pretty good about him there. And he doesn't come with, I think some of the question marks in terms of health that Tyson does. Who, by the way, just went to Heath.

[Adam]

Yeah, Heath did take Jordan Tyson. All right, so you took Lemon. Then we had Rico Dowdle, Jalen Hertz, Jacoby Myers, Jordan Tyson. Jamie looking at round seven and you see you had took Marvin Harrison Jr. We had Metcalf, we had Lemon, we had Myers, we had Jordan Tyson with the first pick of round eight. The running backs are Tootin Pollard, Warren Dowdle. Which position do you think is stronger at that point in the draft, running back or wide receiver?

[Jamie]

Probably running back just because there's Pollard still should be the. The lead guy there. By how much we'll find out. But. But obviously going into the season, I think Warren will be the lead guy in Pittsburgh. But clearly Dowdle going there the the receivers, huge upside. But you know, questions. So, you know, is Harrison or Wilson better than the other?

[Dave]

Someone shot Azer.

[Adam]

Damn you, Joe. Piece of pia.

[Jamie]

Great pick, Joe.

[Joe]

It was me from the grassy knoll to Chris Godwin.

[Adam]

And with that, we're going to take a break so I can recap.

[Jamie]

I will say the strongest position probably in that round was the quarterbacks though.

[Adam]

Jaden Daniels and Jalen. Hurts.

[Jamie]

Yeah. I mean, look at the guys you're getting at this point. And obviously that's our drafts, that's most analyst drafts, but you know, still like you're getting top five caliber players in round seven.

[Adam]

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All right, you know what? I haven't given up hope for Ricky Piersol yet. I'm going to take Ricky Piersall, but gosh, do I like Chris Godwin a lot better than Ricky Pearsall.

[Joe]

Me Too Azerbai. Too.

[Adam]

Nice pick. All right, so round eight is Jordan Tyson, Michael Wilson, Ramondre Stevenson, Chris Godwin and Ricky Piersol. Some players that are available at receiver, Wandale Robinson, Parker Washington, Jordan Addison, who I certainly considered Michael Pittman, Tyree Kill, Casey Concepcion. I'll stop there at running back. We've got. I think Dobbins is still available. Yep. Dobbins, Aaron Jones, Jacori Crosby, Merritt, Tyler Algier, Rashad White, Kenneth Gainwell.

[Dave]

Not Great.

[Adam]

Chris Rodriguez Jr. Still there. He might. We just had a report, a speculation from a beat writer that he'll have the most carries on the team. Tight end. Tight end is. I don't know when the next tight end is going to come off the board. It might be a little while. Isaiah Likely, Travis Kelsey, Dallas Goddard, Mark Andrews, Jake Ferguson, Dalton Kincaid. And quarterback is obviously deep. Jackson Dart, Dak Prescott, Stafford, Caleb Williams, Lawrence Mahomes, Purdy. So I don't know, we might, might be a little. Actually, I think Jackson dart. I think Jake's gonna take Jackson dart right here. Oh, he took Jake.

[Jake Seeley]

I want two quarterbacks. Yeah, Real quick.

[Adam]

It's super flex.

[Jake Seeley]

Maybe if he was a rookie. I don't know.

[Jamie]

No, I, I, I'm gonna take Jackson. Waiting for, you know, to see what happened. So it kind of worked out again looking at what Jake has on his team.

[Adam]

All right, so just catching up on round eight is Jake takes Kyle Menangai, Jordan Tyson, Michael Wilson, Ramondre Stevenson, Chris Godwin, Ricky Piersol, Brian Thomas, Jalen Wright, Parker Washington, Justin Herbert, Wondale Robinson, Jordan Addison, Kyle Menangai and then Jake took. Who'd you take? Oh, Jordan Mason. Okay. And Jamie took Jackson dart and then Jakori, Crosby, Merritt and then Michael Pittman. And Dave, you're on the clock. What are you going to do, Dave?

[Dave]

I am. I lost the guys that were in my queue. Dart was in my queue. Crosby, Merritt was in my queue. My highest rated player left is Isaiah Likely. And I already have a tight end, so I don't think I can go that route. My next highest rated running back is Aaron Jones. That feels gross. But it is round nine and I don't mind collecting running back depth. And let me just see who's left at quarterback before I commit to old Aaron Jones, Dax Stafford, Caleb, Trevor Lawrence.

[Adam]

All right.

[Dave]

I'm cool with any of those guys. I bet one of them makes it back to me. Double checking at receiver. Tyreek is still there. Casey Conception is still there. Golden Dobbs. Yeah. Not excited about any of these guys either. I'M going to go with old man Aaron Jones strictly for running back depth.

[Adam]

Jake, you took Jordan Mason over Aaron Jones.

[Jake Seeley]

Yeah, mostly because I think Mason can be the lead at this point. And as you just said, old man Aaron Jones, I feel like he's the pass catcher at best, like the complimentary. And then I want to be shocked that he starts to lose his job this season. So I'm leaning more Jordan Mason. Both. Both of them are free agents next year as well. So that's something that you might see. The Vikings start to evaluate whether or not they want to bring back Mason because they probably, in my estimation, are not going to be looking at Aaron Jones to re up.

[Dave]

I think the key here is you're going to see those names in your drafts and you're going to think, oh, Aaron Jones has been good in the past or Jordan Mason has shown flashes in the past. You just gotta wait until the right time to get these guys and getting them for depth like Jake did on his team. Yeah, me for my team. Yeah, that's all there. You can't start them unless you're in like crazy 16 team leagues. And you just need a warm body that's going to get at least a dozen touches. And even then, I'm not sure both of these guys are going to get a dozen touches from game to game.

[Adam]

All right, I am up. I have Burrow Hampton, Walker Evans, Amon Ross, Saint Brown, Devonte Smith, Jalen Warren and Ricky Pearsall. I need a tight end, but everybody who has. Everybody who's picking after me has a tight end already. So let's just go bpa. I think, I think Dobbins is a good pick here. I think Corum is a good pick here. Huge upside handcuff. Let's see wide receiver, Tyree Kill, Concepcion, Ayuk. Nobody I love. All right, let's go with. Let's go with Coram. Actually, the thing is like, Dot, you know, this is my fourth running back. Dobbins is probably going to be better than Coram if everyone stays healthy, but he's not going to be that good. He basically never catches the ball. And if he doesn't score, you're probably not going to be thrilled. Stop starting J.K. dobbins. And maybe they give R.J. harvey more of a role this year or, you know, get someone else in the mix. So I'm going to go with a guy who could get 10 to 12 carries a game, maybe score some touchdowns. And man, if Kyra Williams gets hurt, you got a league winner there. All right, Joe, you're on the clock. What are you gonna do?

[Joe]

I'm gonna go ahead and break down and take my quarterback because I do have a preference here which I'd rather have Dak Prescott. You know, he's going to throw for more than 4, 000 yards. You know, he's going to approach 30 touchdowns. And with Pickens and CD Lamb in house, too. Now, I know the defense is slightly better than it is last year, but, you know, the proof is in the pudding. We'll see how good they are when they actually get on the field. In terms of stopping opponents from scoring, theoretically, they did add some more talent. So I think it's going to be better, but not enough that we're going to slow down what the Dallas Cowboys can do. And plus, it's going to be a very competitive division. You know, these games between the, the Giants and the Eagles and the Commanders, I think all these guys are going to be really kind of, you know, they're going to press everybody every single week that they play each other inside that division. So I look for Dak Prescott to have another big season here.

[Adam]

Okay, we are done with round nine. We are into round ten. The rest of round nine after. I'll just read all of round nine. Jordan Mason, Jackson Dart, Jacori Crosby, Merritt, Michael Pittman, Aaron Jones, Matthew Golden, Quentin Johnston, Blake Corum, Dak Prescott, Matthew Stafford, Kenneth Gainwell, J.K. dobbins, Jake. Do you like Christian Watson in round six or Matthew golden in round nine?

[Jake Seeley]

Better still, Christian Watson. I think we're hoping for golden, but, you know, Reed is still going to be involved plenty. They re upped him and whether or not he stays healthy is a question mark. I thought you were actually going to say I love the value of Josh Downs right there like that. I don't know if my mic was on or off because the Dogs are playing. But like I sighed, I was hoping that I might get a steal all the way back at the end of this round with Josh Downs.

[Adam]

Is he a guy that you value much differently in half PPR versus full PPR. And Josh Downs went with the first pick of round 10. Then it was Charbonnet, then it was Jaden Higgins, and then Chris Rodriguez to Joe. But you can answer that question as I make my pick here.

[Jake Seeley]

No, it'd be more so like non PBR to full ppr gets a massive boost half between the, you know, playing the middle. I don't think there's a huge difference either way. I mean, it definitely vaults him and I probably would say around but to go like I said to your first question, I think Watson's the one that you see golden and Reed kind of splitting those two. It's almost a different version of the Bears we were talking about before is they're going to alternate weeks. But I think just Downs is getting overlooked. Like Warren was great value by Brad at that point. But I think people are just forgetting that Downs is clearly the number two and has proven that he can handle being the number two for that team.

[Jamie]

Adam, I have a question for you and I think you made the right choice, but would you have considered or did you consider taking Charbonnet for kind of the same reason you took Corum in that spot?

[Adam]

Not really because I think Jadari and Price really limits that that upside there

[Jake Seeley]

and he's well, Charbonnet might not play period. Like this bad case scenario is November so I don't know. He's kind of off the board from a period I don't know.

[Joe]

Yeah, I'm with Jake is too on that one too. He's kind of off my board also.

[Adam]

I was actually trying to decide between likely and Kelsey and then I remember Charles Barkley last night saying that sports are not for old people. So I went with likely. But I really do like Kelsey's value this year. So Likely and Kelsey went back to back in round 10. We had Braylon Allen after that and Dave, you're on the clock.

[Dave]

Three names in my queue. One is Tyler Algeria. I had drafted Jeremiah Love earlier. I could lock up the Cardinals backfield. That doesn't sound as sexy as it did in my head 30 seconds ago. And then a few years ago Casey Conception and Tyreek Hill are both on the board. I I do have Hill ranked higher than Concepcion and half ppr. It's on the hunch that Tyreek Hill obviously plays and is 75, 80% of his former self and goes to a contending team. But I wonder if I could snatch him up later because I'm not sure everybody feels the same way as I do about Tyreek Hill considering that he isn't on a team right now and I'm a fan of Concepcion skills and I love the idea of him being in Cleveland. I think he could be the top target getter there. I know it's bad for him to take two Browns pass catchers on the same fantasy team, especially in a half PPR.

[Joe]

What could go wrong?

[Dave]

It's round 10. I can wait on quarterback because everybody picking after me in round 10 and before me in round 11 already has one quarterback, so I'll be able to get one of Caleb or Trevor Lawrence. Hopefully one of the two make it back to me in round 11. So my plan was just to take a guy who I know is going to play this year, is healthy, is young, and isn't a slow running back behind a top three overall pick in the NFL draft. So I took Conception.

[Adam]

Dave, I. I love that pick. Well done.

[Dave]

Oh, thank you.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Romeo Dobbs went after that. Omar Cooper after that. Jonathan Brooks to Jamie and Jake. You were on the clock with two.

[Dave]

I like that pick.

[Jake Seeley]

I'm actually really mad at Dave talking that up so much. I was worried that, like, Tyreek Hill is in my queue and just because at this point we're taking the upside if he does land the team, it's not like, I mean, the potential for there. And that's the same reason I'm making my other pick. I have to search because they're deeper down the list here. No, I don't want to. I don't want to double down on that. Everybody was drafting them last year, but, like, they have no pass catchers in Las Vegas. No pass catchers in Las Vegas. And yes, Besh was a massive disappointment as a rookie and it could be Trey Tucker. They fact, you know, they signed Naylor and we're really kind of shooting at, you know, we're throwing darts here. But the chance that Besh is who

[Adam]

we thought he could be, like a

[Jake Seeley]

Jacoby Myers for this team and becomes the number one wide receiver at this point, I'm throwing away 11th round pick if it doesn't happen.

[Adam]

Okay, so you didn't take Jalen Naylor, right? No, not your guy. Okay, so you're.

[Jake Seeley]

I would go with Besh or Bash.

[Adam]

All right. Jamie took Jaden Reed, then we had Dallas. Got it. And you still don't have a tight end. Jake, how do you feel about that in round 11? No tight end.

[Jake Seeley]

Do you want me to stand up? Because I disagree.

[Adam]

You have a tight end.

[Jake Seeley]

I get to let that one stick, that sink in. I'll turn around for you. Yeah, dad, joke for you. This late in the game, I'm going to wait. Speaking of late in the game, I'm going to wait. Like, why am I going to chase a tight end when essentially, if you don't get the top five or six, they're all the same. You're talking about the difference between 9 points per game and 8.3 fantasy points per game. Like, I don't care.

[Adam]

But we just had Dallas Goddard. All right, so fine. Hypothetically, if likely.

[Joe]

Sounds like some Mark Andrews noise to me. Azerbaijan.

[Adam]

If likely. If likely. Or Kelsey had made it to you in round 10 at the end of the likely?

[Jake Seeley]

Yes, if likely, I'd made it, but I knew there's no way he's going to make it. Another 24 picks to me.

[Adam]

Okay. And you know, obviously we give Devonte Smith a boost because we think A.J. brown's going to get traded.

[Joe]

Did you.

[Adam]

Do you not give Dallas Goddard because you could have taken him at the 10:11 turn?

[Jake Seeley]

Did you give him a boost? No. Because if you want to spend any time of the last three weeks or two and a half weeks since the draft happened a railing against everybody who says that Jalen Hurts can't throw over the middle, it's Makai Lemon for me. I think Goddard is still going to be Goddard. We just hope that he has the touchdown equity he has from last year. And that's a touchdown equity I'm not counting on.

[Joe]

Okay, well, I read Jake Seeley's tweets. That's why I took Makai Lemon. You know, so I'm all in the Jake Seeley tweet threads.

[Jake Seeley]

That's why he's also had to deal with me on three different podcasts going off about the Jalen hurts Mikhail situation.

[Joe]

But you know what? But I. I hate saying this. You're right. Like, you're 100% correct on that. And I think that that makes the most sense. And, you know, while I. I think Tate Projectable is the guy I want long term, I think Tyson takes over next year, this season. I think Makai Lemon is the one guy that I feel like from week one has potential more than the other two. And I think that's.

[Jake Seeley]

The cliffsnose version is for everybody out there is Jalen Hurts absolutely can, and passes very well over the middle that he just doesn't need to or asked to or designed to by this team. And he's better throwing outside. That is true. But at the same time, you're going to tell me a team drafted three spots higher, threw away two fourth rounders to do it to a division rival, and they're not going to change up their offense a little bit with Shaw Manion now calling plays to throw over the middle at all. By the way, Makai Lemon could play outside. Like, why are we pretending that all of a sudden, like, people hate Jalen Hurts so much that they've turned Makai Lemon from being a complete wide receiver to he can only catch the ball 5 to 15 yards between the hashes. Like they want to crucify lemon because they want to hate on hurts so much.

[Adam]

Yeah. He had more deep ball catches than Jordan Tyson. A lot more than Jordan Tyson last year.

[Jake Seeley]

Most in the class.

[Adam]

Most deep ball catches in the class.

[Jake Seeley]

I think it was either the highest eight out or the most deep ball. There's one of those numbers that he was actually the best in the class.

[Adam]

I don't think it was the adot, but could have been. Let's see.

[Jake Seeley]

Oh, drafted.

[Adam]

Okay. Oh, oh, yeah.

[Jake Seeley]

Maybe like the first two day wide receivers day one and day two he

[Adam]

had 16 catches, 20 more air yards. That was third most in the country. Jordan Tyson had five. Anyway. Yeah.

[Jake Seeley]

Thermos in the country. So there you go. Yeah.

[Adam]

Yeah. So of the drafted people for sure then is it somebody asked Scott asked in the chat, is it 100 certainty that AJ Brown gets traded to New England? No, we are banking on it. It was a report.

[Joe]

It's 100% rated. Well, I think it's either there or the Rams. Like those are the two. Two. Like I, I thought the Rams might dabble in the wide receiver world somewhere. You know, considering Pukinaku is issues in health and Devonte ams another year older, maybe a little bit of more depth somewhere. So I wouldn't be shocked if like the Rams made a big splash too, especially after, you know, they caught so much heat for not doing enough at the wide receiver position. So I think that's the, that's the B team. I don't know if you guys have

[Adam]

a second choice, but we are basically everything we're doing, we're acting as if he's getting traded.

[Joe]

He's getting traded.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I mean, if you look at what the Eagles have told you and all the players they've acquired, the Hollywood Browns and the But Guy Lemons and who else am I forgetting? Guys, there's another wide receiver in there that makes it Wicks. Yeah, Wicks was another one. By the way. I took around Day Gaston so Jake couldn't on purpose also because he is I think the best talent still on the board. And I'm fascinated about what he might become potentially with Mike McDaniel as the offensive coordinator. We've seen some flashes with the Johnny Smiths and, and, and even to a certain extent, old man Darren Waller, where I was kind of like, you know, I'd really like to, to see what he could possibly become here. And if so, again, drafts are about taking talent. It's not all about just like building Your own roster. It's. Once you get into the reserves, it's like, let me take talent here because then I have a situation where I've got Loveland, I've got Gadsden, somebody's being looking for a tight end. It gives me trade value, potential there for me to go do something else.

[Jamie]

I just hope they don't sign Najoku.

[Joe]

I hope so, too. I hope so, too. Especially after I make this pick in this fictional league.

[Adam]

You took your first rookie, Antonio Williams. Good job.

[Joe]

I want to get the guy's take on Chris Rodriguez that I picked earlier because I know Azer's up too, right now and he's time to make his pick.

[Adam]

No, I'm just gonna say I'm gonna take Tyrone Tracy, and I think he's taken Tyrone Tracy because I was gonna.

[Jamie]

I didn't want to say it because I didn't want, you know, somebody to. To do it, but I thought he'd had a couple of opportunities here to take Tracy or Simpson or Sampson or. Or both just to kind of. He could backfield.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam]

Okay. Yeah. Anyway, your Chris Rodriguez pick. So you took Rodriguez in what, round? Nine or ten?

[Joe]

Yeah. I'm just curious what the guys think about this, because I. I enjoy Bayshell Tootin's speed as much as the next fella, but I keep coming back to the whole, like, Liam Cohen relationship and connectivity to Chris Rodriguez and being maybe the early down back and possibly also the guy used around the goal line. And I feel like in a half ppr, he might be a sneaky value, but I don't know if I'm on an island on this one by myself.

[Adam]

Jamie, your thoughts on Chris Rodriguez? No, I don't know why nobody. They're all looking at their draft boards.

[Dave]

I'm on the clock.

[Adam]

I think you did a great job.

[Jamie]

I think Rodriguez is amazing value here and, you know, or where Joe took him, it's. It's everything he said, you know, there. There's uncertainty here. We got different reports of who's going to be maybe the better of the two. We don't know until it plays out. And listen, I hope they're done. You know, if. If you like these two players, you know, there's still the potential of what if they try to get one of these guys that could be a cast off in the backfield, James Connor, for example, or somebody like that, you know, who could get, you know, released. But I do think as. As Joe alluded to, you know, the history with, you know, Rodriguez and Cohen In Kentucky, this was a player they targeted. They gave him a two year deal, $10 million. That's not a lot. But at that position it's not, not, you know, something to potentially ignore. And Tutin, who had an opportunity I think early on in the process to maybe be a little bit more involved, maybe even steal the job from etn. Remember at this point last year we were like, Tank Bigsby's the guy. And you know, because ETM was coming off that miserable 2024. And then they drafted Suit and it was like, okay, maybe Toon's gonna be the guy. And you know, ETN just had this amazing year in a contract season and they didn't replace him with anybody of significant name value or really pedigree. So, so I think Rodriguez could come in and be that type of, I don't know, difference maker, but can certainly be that guy. And there is at least that one report, the Sports Illustrator report. John Ship, who covers the team, his preseason draft depth chart has Rodriguez one, you know, so there are some, some thoughts for people to cover the team that Rodriguez may lead the team in carries.

[Adam]

Yeah, it's a good pick. So let's see. Where did Tootin go in this draft? Seventh round. Anyone? A little help here? Yeah, 74 and Rodriguez went in round 10. So Joe, you prefer Rodriguez in round 10?

[Joe]

It's not that I don't like Tootin. Again, I just want to come back to that. I don't think, I think he's the playmaker, I think he's the explosive fun guy. But when we're talking about a half point PPR league, I think Rodriguez is really appealing in terms of return on investment as a 10th round pick because of all the things that Jamie pointed out too. I, I, it's not nothing that they paid him, it's not a huge contract, but it's a little bit more guaranteed than you would have thought and I think a little bit more pointed. And I, and I, I, I come back to that same thing too, which is that relationship that players have with coaches. When you see somebody targeted and signed quickly, right, and identified by a team, it's clear that if they were just fine with Tutin, maybe they would have adjusted the draft. Maybe they would have, you know, found somebody else or brought somebody else into camp later. But they didn't, they went out there and they specifically went after Rodriguez and Free Agen and it was one of the earliest moves. So to me, I, I think that's tipping the hand a little bit and something sometimes we should Pay more attention to when we're talking about fantasy.

[Jamie]

All right.

[Adam]

I think we could maybe start talking about our squads here, but I'll just go through picks. Rounds 11 and 12.

[Joe]

Jack, did Jake take Mark Andrews yet?

[Adam]

No. Let me get to round 11. Round 11 was.

[Jake Seeley]

He's not even my top two tight end.

[Joe]

Oh, I bet I can guess who is if I look though.

[Adam]

Best Jaden Reed, Dallas Goddard, Alger, Caleb Williams, Savion Williams, Rashad White, Juwan Jennings, Arande Gadsden, Jalen Coker. I almost said Michael Keaton, Keaton Mitchell, Jared Goff. After that it was Woody Marks, Rashid Shahid, Khalil, Shakir, Antonio Williams, Tyrone Tracy, Emmanuel Wilson, Chris Brazil, Jalen Naylor, Trey Harris. Malik Washington. Trey Tucker, Denzel Boston.

[Jamie]

Mike Washington.

[Adam]

Malik Washington.

[Dave]

Mike.

[Jake Seeley]

It was the wrong one in the draft. That's the right one on the board.

[Jamie]

The guy I'm looking at.

[Joe]

The.

[Jamie]

I'm going to Thomas board.

[Adam]

Yeah. So that. Yeah. Okay, so if you're watching on YouTube where it's Malik Washington for Jake I. Not Jake Seeley, that he actually took Malik Washington of the Dolphins.

[Jamie]

No, he took Mike Washington.

[Adam]

No, he took Malik Washington.

[Jamie]

What am I looking.

[Joe]

Who's on first?

[Adam]

You're looking at sleeper on cbs. He took Malik Washington. Oh, I'm on the clock. Oh, no. Yeah, Mike Washington. I'm going to take.

[Jamie]

Oh, I'm sorry. He also took Mike Washington.

[Adam]

Oh, he took them both easier.

[Joe]

You're up.

[Adam]

I guess I'm going to take my homes, I guess.

[Jake Seeley]

All right.

[Adam]

Anyway, that's where we're at right now. All right. So how you guys feeling about your teams? We have one more round, but Jake, you had the first pick and you'll eventually have a tight end. Unless you picked one already. Did you pick a tight end?

[Jake Seeley]

No.

[Adam]

Well, you're gonna have to take one eventually. You know it is the rules.

[Jake Seeley]

Okay, so I'll take one of the last round. They're all the damn same at this point. I don't care.

[Dave]

Are you getting ready to ban tight ends?

[Jake Seeley]

Yeah, ban. No. I'll give you a hint. There's two names. They've both been thrown out as the number one and number two and my queue. And then there's two others that are thrown into my queue. One that I think has been a little underrated from last year. Another one that might have a bounce back with a new quarterback. There's the hint from before. Tight ends in my queue because I'm not going to be available to be around for that. I got to think but more importantly, more importantly, I'm getting out of here. Joe, shut up for two seconds, please. I really like how my wide receivers went, except I don't love taking the flyer. Like, I love the value when Dave Montgomery was there for like Marvin Harris and I hated that Jamie took him. Jordan Addison was still there. So looking back as why we do mock drafts, I probably would have let Adams or more sit on the board and went with a running back like ETN or even Price or Henderson. And then knowing that those wide receivers could be there would change up my draft strategy out of that. The bench depth is mostly for upside at this point. And yes, that part of my anger towards Joe is knowing that he purposely took gads and just.

[Adam]

All right, Joe has to or Jake has to go. I'm sorry. Jake, thank you for coming on today.

[Jake Seeley]

Yes. I appreciate you guys. Love everybody over at cbs, including you. Adam, surprisingly.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Finally got that personality. Transpan, everybody.

[Adam]

I'm gonna read Jake's team here. He has. He picked first overall. He has Jaden Daniels, who he took in round seven, Bijan Robinson and David Montgomery, Malik neighbors, Chris Olave, Devonte Adams, DJ Moore. And at tight end, I don't even know who it's going to be. Jake Ferguson maybe? Something like that. His bench is common on guy. Jordan Mason, Isaiah Pacheco, Tyree Kill, Jack Besh, Denzel Boston. Jamie, how do you feel about your team picking second?

[Jamie]

Yeah, I mean, the. The biggest question is obviously wide receiver, you know, waiting as long as I did to or not waiting as long as that, but, you know, waiting to get my first one in in round four. So, you know, throwing some darts there with guys that I still think have plenty of upside. Burden, you know, to me was they're all more number two wide receivers, at least at the top. But burden end of a run. McConkey I think will bounce back this year. You know, I said on. I think it was yesterday's show on Wednesday show. I. I leave every draft with a charger. So this was the one I got. I think Harrison with Brissette will be. Will be good. Hopefully Brissette's a starter. You know, we got a small sample size of what he was looking like and you know, hopefully he has the Michael Wilson run as opposed to Michael Wilson Addison. And I think we'll have a bounce back similar to what Joe was saying about Justin Jefferson just because of Kyler Murray. So I'm okay with the receiving core there, but love the running backs, love the tight end, love the quarterback, especially the value so hopefully, you know, in half ppr, if there's full ppr, I'd be a little bit more concerned, but half ppr, I think, you know, running backs will carry me and you know, if McBride is still as good as he is capable of being, then you know, have a, a significant edge at that spot.

[Adam]

Oh, okay. So once again Jamie picking second is going to have Jackson Dart who he took in round nine. Jameer Gibbs, Josh Jacobs, he's gonna have Trey McBride at tight end. Luther Burden, Lad McConkey, Marvin Harrison Jr. And then the flex will either be Jordan Ada. Yeah, it'll be Jordan Addison and he's got Jonathan. What's that?

[Jamie]

That'll be Chuba.

[Adam]

Oh, it'll be Chuba. My bad. Yeah, it'll be Chuba Hubbard and then he's got Jordan Addison, Jonathan Brooks, Jaden Reed on his bench. Dave, you had the fifth pick. How'd you feel about your team?

[Dave]

I like it. I like starting with two running backs with my first three picks and getting pick ins with the. Especially with the rationale knowing that the next best wide receiver that might fall to me in round three would be somebody like on my board it might have been a Buka or AJ Brown anyway and the fact that I was able to get a Buka two rounds later A tells me that I'm probably going to be the high guy on a Buka and B that I, I knew that picking Pickens would save me from having some question marks at wide receiver and it really did because the running backs that were left for me in early mid round three were great and I was happy to take Jeremiah Love and then went receiver heavy after that with Buka and waddle back to back picks. I'm a big fan of both of those receivers. I think they both have potential to be top 15. A book is specifically top 12 and having them with Pickens who everybody's going to draft is one of the first 12 receivers off the board who honestly has the same type of potential as CD Lamb in the same offense getting the same type of target volume. I, I don't mind. I think that that's a really good wide receiver trio to go with two really good promising high upside running backs. That's how I started the squad. Fanon at tight end, I thought that was good value. Pollard in round seven, I think that's excellent value. If we're looking at Tennessee being a better offense this year, better play caller, better additions of the team, then it makes total sense that the lead running back in that offense will Be a good help for fantasy as well. Getting that in round seven. I like that a lot. And then just really complimentary pieces after that. Waiting on quarterback ended up to be. Ended up working out for me because Caleb Williams, I think he'll be a consensus top 12 quarterback. Got him in round 11. I think that's excellent value. That's what you've got to do at quarterback this year, get one at excellent value.

[Adam]

All right, so Dave picking sixth is going to have Caleb Williams at quarterback, Harold Fannin at tight end, Jonathan Taylor and Jeremiah Love at running back. Pickens, Abuka and Waddle at receiver with Tony Pollard or Parker Washington at the flex. Aaron Jones, Casey Concepcion on the bench. I had the. What? Oh, David. The fifth pick. I'm sorry, not six. Fifth pick. I had the eighth pick and I took Aman Ross, Saint Brown in the first round. I really liked it. Just kind of one of those drafts where, yeah, a lot of the picks just kind of fell in my lap. Omarion Hampton. I'm a little nervous about Omarion Hampton in round two. He only had one really impressive game last year, as I recall, and it was against the Giants, who had the worst run defense in the NFL. But he had a ton of catches last year, so that's good. So St. Brown, Hampton, Ken Walker. I could have taken Ken Walker in round two and been happy about it. I got him in round three, Devonte Smith in round four, which I'm not quite sure he's going to make it that far once the Brown trade becomes official when it happened, if it happens. Evans, Mike Evans in round five, Joe Burrow. I'll just give my starting lineups. It's Burrow, Isaiah Likely, Hampton and Ken Walker. St. Brown, Devonte Smith, Mike Evans and Flex is Jalen Warren with Ricky Pierce all Blake Corum, Juwan Jennings on the bench. And we do have other bench players that I'm not reading. Like for example, I. Oh, no, I didn't take. I wanted to take Emmett Johnson, but I did not get a chance to take him to back up Ken Walker. And Joe, you picked right after me, the ninth pick. You have a lot of rookies.

[Joe]

Actually, I think you have three too many rookie shows. Well, I, I think, look, I started out with Justin Jefferson as the first pick, which again, I, I'll defend that one to the death because he is a top three wide receiver talent in this league who had no quarterback help at all last year. And I just don't think that's going to hold two years in a row. And if anything's break right this time next year we can be looking at him as a top five pick overall. So I'll, I'll take that every single day. Running back room is Chase Brown, Breeze Hall, Jadarian Price and Chris Rodriguez. I feel that's a pretty good foursome there, especially in half PPR where, you know, I think Jadarian Price and Breeze hall are going to see a fair amount of touchdowns this year. QB's Dak Prescott. And then I think, you know, whenever you go ahead and you take that early tight end, which I tried and experimented with and I'm curious because I've been writing up all these tight ends of the black book, I'm almost done with that whole chapter and Loveland, you know, just as you continue to dig into the stats and the trend, it just feels so right to go ahead and waste. Not waste, but like use the early pick, I should say on him. But that does put you behind a little bit. So what I try to do is find guys that I think have potential to jump tears at wide receiver. I think if you can draft Pierce as a three and he ends up as a two, that's great. I think Makai Lemon's a guy you're drafting as almost a four, but I think he has potential to be a three and then just taking shots on guys, you know, Chris Godwin, if he's healthy, Chris Godwin automatically becomes my wide receiver too. And I'm loving life. Like to me that is the pick that that possibly could save me, but I have to build in some more youth and some more options there because that's not enough. Antonio Williams I think has upside. Same thing with Jeremy Bernard. I think he kind of fits, especially if Aaron Rodgers comes back. More of like what Aaron Rodgers is capable of doing at this time in his career. I don't believe in Ricky Pierce. All I don't love what San Francisco continues to do in the drafts every year and I love Mike Evans, but if I couldn't get Evans and he's older, I'll take a shot on Christian Kirk, who I think could again just be a contributor. And then Arante Gadsden's just a. That's just a value pick there as a guy that should not be on the board. And I believe in price enforcing in drafts and just acquiring talent and drafts. You worry about position stuff later, you worry about all that stuff. You can get those talent on your roster in the draft, then you're winning and after that, inevitably draft. You know, injuries happen. Everybody waiver wire Pops up and you can fill other spots, but you only get that one first shot at acquiring talent. And I just think Gadson's too interesting of a player this year. If it fails, I cut him. If he doesn't and he becomes another coast in Loveland, then I've got a great problem there where I got another guy that I can flex.

[Adam]

Okay, you can stop with the price enforcement stuff. You pick Gadsden to screw with Jake, well, that was.

[Joe]

Honestly, that was. That was just like the bonus of it. But I was looking. He was in my queue for the rounds before, too. And I was just like, you know, Gatson really shouldn't be there anymore. And I'm just like, you know what? And it tweaks Jake Sealy. Sign me up. Up.

[Dave]

I. I get that you want to tweak Jake. That's always fun to do. Let me tell you. Two tight ends that weren't drafted at all and line them up against Gadsden. Jake Ferguson, Dallas, we kind of know him. What he is. Not exciting, but he can be serviceable for fantasy. And Dalton Kincaid, who last year had his best year. So it wasn't amazing. He's never really hit his potential, but we know that when he's healthy, he can be helpful. How do you. How do you rationalize over those two?

[Joe]

Kincaid? I think, you know, I think part of Kincaid's upside last year was the fact that there was no DJ Moore kind of presence. So I think DJ Moore's presence automatically kind of hurts that one. And I think with Ferguson, again, it's like, Ferguson's fine, but we know what Ferguson is. We know what his floor is and the ceiling is. I don't know what Galston ceilings is. Well, it is almost the same.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And Gad said, I look at a guy and I say, again, this is more just kind of putting in the. The football projectability here. Mike McDaniel is just having to worry about being an offensive coordinator should terrify the rest of the league, because I think he is one of the great offensive minds we have in football. I never cared for the idea of him as the head coach. I did not think that was going to work out for him. Inevitably, you know, it came to fruition. I do think, though, if you look at the way this team is built, do they really have an alpha dog wide receiver in the Chargers? No. But if Gadsden can all of a sudden become this incredible weapon, especially around the red zone and a half PBR league, my God. Like, that is something really fascinating to see if that can develop and again, if it doesn't, it's such a late pick, it doesn't matter. I cut him, I move on, I trade him off, I do something else. So, yeah, there's still plenty of tight ends that, that I think are serviceable. So if you miss to Jake's point, hey, I missed on everything. I'm just gonna take a tight end or two tight ends with my last two picks. You could definitely get away with that.

[Dave]

But I think Gadsden, I'm sorry to catch up. You can cut Gadsden and pick up Ferguson or Kincaid or any of the other.

[Joe]

Sure, absolutely. But I don't think that those two guys carry what Gadsden could potentially within his offense this year.

[Dave]

Sure. And if people out there are listening and there's there, I could go through a couple of other tight ends that might have the same type of rosy upside that Joe Sees and Gatson. Kincaid certainly could qualify. Maybe Juwan Johnson, Brenton Strange. Like these are names that, you know, Juwan especially had a good year last year. Any of those guys, if you think they've got upside, that's who you take late, knowing that there's going to be another tight end that you can find off the waiver wire layer. It's kind of what I think Jake sees as well. I just don't know if I love Jake taking Mark Andrews to be that guy when he could have had some of these other ones that are on waivers.

[Joe]

Yeah, I don't disagree with that. And I'm not trying to buy too much into like the week seven, week eight around the gas and performances, but, you know, it's not every day you see a tight end be able to haul in like 14 targets and 12 catches over two weeks for 200 something yards and two touchdowns. Me, that was very eye opening.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And it's just a matter of we're finally getting away from the boring Harbaugh offenses and it's the first time that McDaniel also is going to have a real big boy quarterback in Justin Herbert. He's never had anything like Justin Herbert to work with in his career. So this is going to be fascinating to see what you could do, especially if the tackle stay healthy.

[Adam]

Yeah. And I, you know, just to weigh in, I'm not really interested in Ferguson because you just look at his season last year when Lamb and Pickens were both healthy. He had very few, you know, impressive games he did in week two. At that point, Pickens wasn't really all that involved in the offense. And then he had first game back for lamb. He had 29 yards and two touchdowns after that. I mean, Ferguson was not. Probably not really even worth rostering. I mean, borderline, you know, but. But anyway. All right, that's it for this.

[Dave]

Feels like his floor is like 7 1/2 ppr points per game and his ceiling is like 9 ppr points per game.

[Adam]

Yeah, well, Joe PCP has a high ceiling, I'll tell you that much. Super low floor, though. Like real low floor.

[Joe]

Oh, it's. It's subterranean. It's really bad.

[Adam]

Thanks for coming on, man. I appreciate it. Thanks for staying. Thanks for staying long.

[Joe]

Absolutely. Guys, thanks so much for having me. This was a fun first effort. I think it helps all of us kind of readjust our brains. It's always great to draft with the best and you guys are the best.

[Adam]

Wow, that is a great close. I never know how to close. Shows that.

[Jamie]

Then you should have just shut up.

[Adam]

Yeah. Bye everyone. Talk to you next time. Have a great weekend, everybody. I care about your weekend.

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