Looking for League Winners! Plus Best and Worst Schedules and NYJ-NE Preview (11/12 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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Fantasy Football Today (CBS Sports)

Episode: Looking for League Winners! Plus Best and Worst Schedules and NYJ-NE Preview (11/12 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Date: November 12, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, host Adam Aizer and analysts Dave Richard, Jamey Eisenberg, and Heath Cummings dive deep into identifying potential “league winners” as the fantasy football season enters its stretch run. They break down best and worst schedules, flag crucial “buy low” and “sell high” candidates, and offer a full preview of the Thursday night matchup between the New York Jets and New England Patriots. The tone is casual, witty, and interactive, as the crew tackles listener questions and debates player value moving forward.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Defining League Winners: Who Can Carry You Down the Stretch?

Starts at [03:29]

• The crew debates which RB, WR, and TE could be true league-winners—not just obvious picks like Jonathan Taylor, but under-the-radar options.
• Heath: “Let’s go Travion Henderson. ...Yes, I do [think he has league-winning potential]” [03:56]
• Jamey floats Jalen Warren as a sneaky call, “That’s definitely not obvious. ...Just getting him the ball, certainly this week he’s going to be great.” [04:31]
• Dave mentions Saquon Barkley and Chris Olave as strong buy lows, while Juwan Johnson is noted for a potentially increased role given New Orleans' projected game scripts.
  • “Olave is going to continue to get a lot of targets. ...Do the same with Juwan Johnson through his bye week.” [05:34]

2. Best and Worst Schedules: Searching for Edges

Starts at [06:58]

• Players with notably good stretch runs:
  • Cowboys, Commanders, Cardinals, Raiders highlighted for soft matchups in Weeks 17/18. [06:35]
  • Jamey dives into Marvin Harrison Jr. as a key by-low: “Wouldn't be that surprised if Marvin Harrison Jr. is a top 12 wide receiver rest of season.” [07:34]
• Cautionary notes:
  • Ashton Genti's brutal schedule detailed ([06:58–07:34]).
  • Bears WR Rome Odunze pegged as a sell-high due to upcoming cold, tough games. [11:20]
  • “...Pittsburgh at Philadelphia, at Green Bay, Cleveland, Green Bay for Chicago. ...That’s potentially got some bad weather there. ...It’s going to be cold. That I can predict.” – Dave [11:50]

3. Emerging League-Winner Sleepers

Starts at [08:31]

• Jamie: “Luther Burden, Darius Slayton, Ricky Pearsall.” [08:31]
  • Cites efficiency: “By far their most efficient wide receiver... The smartest football coach in the world knows it.” [08:46]
• Dave on Ricky Pearsall: “Don’t forget about Ricky. ...He could end up being someone that you’re probably using at this point as a WR3. And I bet he has a couple of WR1 weeks left in him.” [09:56]
• Jordan Addison and Justin Jefferson mentioned as high-variance wildcards with favorable late-season games ([10:40–11:16]).

4. Buy-Low & Sell-High Candidates

Starts at [29:07]; also woven into schedule discussion

Buy Lows

• Marvin Harrison Jr. [07:34; cited again at 30:24]
• Luther Burden: “He’s free, he’s 21% rostered...this is the type of guy you want to have on your bench...I believe if they play him 70% of the snaps, he would be a must-start.” – Jamie [28:35]
• Darius Slayton, Ricky Pearsall, Juwan Johnson, Travion Henderson (if workload rises)
• Jalen Warren, Barkley, Olave

Sell Highs

• Rome Odunze (see above for schedule concerns): “He’s a No. 2 receiver for fantasy purposes, but if someone is buying in after another big game...I don’t mind if you can get top 12 value...doing so.” – Dave [12:19]
• Kamani Vidal: "[Chargers' RB] backfield...when Hampton's back...100% [an annoying split]...there's definitely going to be some presence of Vidal there..." – Dave [33:15]
• DeAndre Swift (schedule, committee concerns): “I would still be selling DeAndre Swift, especially since you can get high for him.” – Jamie [34:30]
• Jackson Smith-Njigba: "He's having one of the most statistically improbable seasons...You don't want to get burned by giving away JSN and not getting enough back for him. But...he carries a lot of heat. He's a league winner." – Dave [36:32]

5. Analyzing Matchup Plays & Rest-of-Season Ranks

• Rapid-fire "fill in the blank" and rest-of-season tiers for players like Brock Purdy (“QB14 or 12” [20:23]), Woody Marks (“RB22–25” [20:52]), Tez Johnson (WR3) [14:23], RJ Harvey (“high end flex” to “low-end RB2” [14:38]), etc.
• Deep-dive on Jameson Williams’ “code”: performs much better from under center and on play action – Eagles allow the third-most yards on PA, which bodes well for this week [25:56].
  • “He is worlds better…could just be small sample…but it’s this, it’s play action. He’s better off play action and he’s better under center.” – Dave [26:52]

6. Quarterback Trade Analysis & Strategy

• Mahomes vs. Drake May schedules: Mahomes draws Denver (twice), Houston, Chargers—all tough defenses; May may be a streaming option for those looking to trade from a position of strength ([38:18–40:08]).
• “If you’ve picked up Burrow and you want to trade Mahomes, I’d cosign that.” – Heath [42:56]
• General theme: You’re starting your studs, but schedule/streaming awareness is key.

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Thursday Night Preview: Jets vs. Patriots

Begins in depth at [44:10]

Jets

• Breece Hall:

  • Difficult matchup; Pats have allowed only two RBs >13.1 fantasy points (Bijan & Achane, both big pass-catching days).
  • “Fully buy into this Patriots run defense...do not see [Hall] getting a ton of targets and catches in the game like those other RBs did. He’s gonna need...to catch a screen and take it 40 yards to the house.” – Dave [45:19]
  • Staff generally ranks Hall between RB17–22.

• Pass-Catchers:

  • No Jets WR or TE recommended for fantasy.

Patriots

• Travion Henderson:
  • With Stevenson out: a high-upside RB2, ranks range from RB11 (Heath) to RB16 (Dave) [53:43].
  • With Stevenson active: both become low RB2s; “Henderson, but it'd be very close...” Jamie [53:58].
• WRs:
  • Stefon Diggs is the highest-ranked, but generally a low-end WR2/high WR3 due to low volume and yardage (TD-dependent).
  • “It’s the same every week…living anywhere between 22nd and 30th among WRs in PPR.” – Dave [52:06]
  • Mac Hollins and Kyle Williams are pure dart throws.
• Hunter Henry: not a recommended start; position is deep enough to avoid [49:59].
• DST: Patriots DST is a recommended start vs. Jets.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jamey, on Marvin Harrison Jr.’s buy-low potential:
  “Wouldn't be that surprised if Marvin Harrison Jr. is a top 12 wide receiver rest of season.” [07:34]
• Dave, breaking down Jameson Williams’ splits:
  “But it’s this, it’s play action. He’s better off play action and he’s better under center.” [26:52]
• Heath, on reviewing trade value for Odunze:
  “He’s a No. 2 receiver for fantasy purposes, but if someone is buying in after another big game...I don’t mind if you can get top 12 value...doing so.” [12:19]
• Dave, on being careful about JSN hype:
  “You don’t want to get burned by giving away JSN and not getting enough back for him. But...he carries a lot of heat. He’s a league winner.” [36:32]
• Jamey, on Luther Burden’s upside:
  “He’s free, he’s 21% rostered...he would be a must-start WR if he was played 70% of snaps.” [28:35]

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Important Timestamps (MM:SS)

• [03:29] Fill-in-the-blank: picking league-winner RB/WR/TE
• [06:58] Schedules: best/worst stretch run matchups
• [08:31] “Emerging out of nowhere” potential league winners
• [14:23] Quick takes: Tez Johnson, RJ Harvey, Woody Marks
• [20:23] Rest-of-season QB/RB tiers (e.g., Brock Purdy, Woody Marks)
• [25:56] Dave’s “cracked the Jameson Williams code”
• [29:07] Buy-low & Sell-high rapid fire: key candidates
• [33:15] Discussion: Chargers’ RB committee outlook
• [44:10] Jets @ Patriots Thursday Night Preview

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Final Takeaways & Listener Value

• Target running backs with soft playoff schedules (e.g., Henderson, Harvey).
• Don’t overlook emerging or returning WRs like Marvin Harrison, Luther Burden, Ricky Pearsall for upside bench stashes.
• Be aggressive selling WRs with tough weather/defensive slates ahead (e.g., Odunze, Swift).
• Don’t panic about Mahomes’ tough schedule unless you can trade for a significant upgrade elsewhere and stream a decent QB.
• Thursday night approach: Start Patriots DST, Henderson (if Stevenson out), and Hall as a risky RB2.

The episode is packed with actionable, sharp insights and a good dose of banter, reflecting the team's camaraderie and deep knowledge of fantasy football strategy as the playoff push intensifies.

Transcript

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[Jamie]

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[Dave Richard]

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[Jamie]

No, I can't.

[Dave]

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[Jamie]

Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath.

[Dave Richard]

And a happy hump day to everybody. It is Wednesday, November 12th. Welcome to Fantasy Football Today presented by BetMGM. Make it legendary. We are looking for league winners. Any schedules that could help us out, players with great schedules or players with terrible schedules that you might want to get off your roster, we will do. Of course, some buy low and sell high. Also some fill in the blank. You know, we needed something to wash that taste out of our mouths from the horrible Monday night game. So we're looking forward to previewing Jets Patriots, our Thursday night game this week. What's up everyone? Dave, thank you for laughing at my silly joke.

[Dave]

It's. It's going to be an ugly game, I think, and potentially low scoring which isn't going to be Any fun. People are going to complain about that. No one appreciates the fine art of defense anymore when it comes to watching football. It's kind of sad.

[Jamie]

See, I. I did appreciate the defense on Monday night.

[Heath]

I really.

[Jamie]

It was, I thought it was like. It was just really good football. That's not what I'm expecting on Thursday.

[Dave]

Not from one of the teams.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah.

[Heath]

There's your Thursday night preview.

[Dave Richard]

All right. We're going to start with some fill in the blank and we'll lose, buy lows and sell highs. So let's get to it here. Fill in the blank from Drew Bell. Oh, also a quick little preview is. We'll talk about RJ Harvey. We'll do it very soon. Actually, he's in the fill in the blank, but RJ Harvey. Because JK Dobbins might end up on IR and I have cracked the Jameson Williams code. I am so excited. Definitively. I can tell you everything you need to know about Jameson Williams. I've figured it out. Enigma mystery solved. Okay, there we go. Fill in the blank from Drew. The running back, wide receiver and tight end. One of each. That will win you your league are blank.

[Jamie]

Jonathan Taylor, Jamar Chase. Let me try to think about this a little bit more.

[Heath]

I mean, how obvious does he want us to be?

[Dave Richard]

Not that obvious. But I think if you wanted to say, you know, maybe if you felt Bucky Irving was going to be that guy, I think I'd accept that. If Amari and Hampton might, I don't know.

[Heath]

Let's go. Travion Henderson.

[Dave Richard]

No way. You really think so?

[Heath]

Yeah. Why not?

[Dave Richard]

Well, Ramandra might play as soon as this week, so. Do you think Henderson has league winning potential?

[Heath]

Ramondra is not playing this week. Yes, I do.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, he's not playing this week. You just, you're. I mean, he. Probably not, but he's been limited. Listed as limited two days in a row, but. All right. Any other. For any other running backs that come to mind.

[Heath]

That are not obvious? Jaylen Warren. I don't know if that's obvious.

[Dave Richard]

That's definitely not obvious. Jalen Warren.

[Heath]

They, you know, Aaron Rodgers post game said they didn't give him enough touches. I think that's going to be something that changes moving forward as they try to lean on the run game a little bit more. Whether that is a huge benefit to him or not. But just getting him the ball, certainly this week he's going to be great.

[Dave Richard]

He has, he has great matchups. He has Cincinnati at Chicago. I don't know if that's A great matchup. That's maybe TJ Edwards dependent Buffalo at Baltimore, Miami coming up does finish with at Detroit and at Cleveland. But Jalen Warren, I like that call. Any other David Saquon Barkley listed as a buy a low, you think?

[Dave]

Yeah, but that's obvious. Everybody's starting Saquon. It's good as the buy low. But yeah, I think he can be better than he's been and the schedule is going to be really good.

[Dave Richard]

I think that's a perfectly good answer. Just I. I think the only ones I wouldn't say are guys like, you know, Jonathan Taylor, Bijan Robinson, you know, the, the studs people are frustrated with. Saigon Barkley has been anything close to a league winner. You think he has that potential?

[Dave]

You think that's a good answer then that's a good answer. But I didn't think that that was the type of answer that Drew was looking for here, so I didn't say it.

[Dave Richard]

Absolutely.

[Dave]

Let me give you one that I think could be. I'll give you two. Chris Olave and Juwan Johnson. New Orleans has made the correct move going to Tyler Shuck. He's played pretty well in his last couple of games, more so last week against Carolina. I think they're going to be throwing a lot no matter what the game script is, and I think Olave is going to continue to get a lot of targets. I think Chris Juwan Johnson is going to be not necessarily a target hog, but we know that he's going to get some good looks. He had a good game last week. I the schedule is great for both of them rest of season. Not that that really matters because of the game script thing, but I think these guys can be useful starters. So everybody's holding on to Chris Olava anyway, but do the same with Juwan Johnson through his bye week.

[Dave Richard]

Okay. If there are any other names that come to mind, speak now. Forever hold your peace. Let's see I so one of the.

[Heath]

Things I did all the Giants with Jameis Winston. Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

This week Jamis is going to likely be the starter.

[Jamie]

I can tell you who's going to win you week 18.

[Dave Richard]

18 or 17.

[Heath]

Oh, who?

[Jamie]

The Cowboys. Commanders, Cardinals and Raiders.

[Dave Richard]

Those are matchups.

[Jamie]

The Raiders play the Giants. So Ashton Genti is gonna if he can get you to week 18, he's gonna win you week 18. Cowboys and Commanders play each 17.

[Dave]

17.

[Jamie]

I'm just gonna say whatever I want, Dave.

[Heath]

I'm sorry.

[Dave]

Mislabel the leaks. As you wish, sir.

[Jamie]

Might be Morbin Harrison.

[Dave Richard]

Genti is A guy. So I looked at matchups. I looked at teams that have three or more matchups against the Jets, Cowboys, Commanders, Bengals, Bears, Titans and Giants, plus maybe a few others. And I looked at teams that had three or more matchups against Houston, Denver, the Rams, the Chiefs, Seahawks, Eagles and Genti showed up in the bad category. So he gets Dallas this week. Then look at this stretch for Genti, Cleveland Chargers, not sure that's so tough. Denver, Philadelphia, Houston. So you said if he gets you to week 17, it could be tough sledding for Ashton Genti to get you to week 17 with that.

[Jamie]

I love the increased target volume the last couple of weeks. Hopefully in those games where they can't run, he still catches four or five passes. But back to Marvin Harrison because I think that's a legitimate one and probably somebody like you can just transition right into the by lows 2 1/2 yards deeper intended air yards for Jacoby Brissette than for Kyler Murray. Basically a 30 target share in the healthy games with Harrison. With Jacoby Brissette coming off of a game where he just had a comically bad, efficient, very low catch rate, I don't think we're going to see that the rest of the year. I wouldn't be that surprised If Marvin Harrison Jr. Is a top 12 wide receiver rest of season.

[Dave Richard]

All right, I like it. So let's go on to our next question then. This may be more of a sleeper from Randy Mall Blank will be the league winner down the stretch that emerges out of nowhere.

[Jamie]

Oh, it's definitely my other by low. Oh, Luther Burton, Darius Lane, Ricky Pearsall.

[Dave Richard]

Luther Burden, Darius Slayton, Ricky Piersol, Heath expand.

[Jamie]

By far their most efficient wide receiver, 2.22 yards per route run. He's averaging over 12 yards per target. And guess what? The smartest football coach in the world knows it. He actually said this week he's making a very good strong case or he said he's been very good when we get him the ball and he's making a very strong case that we should do that more often. Okay, Luther, that's a paraphrase, not a direct quote, Jamie.

[Dave Richard]

Darius Slayton.

[Heath]

I mean the schedule is very favorable for the Giants down the stretch. From a passing perspective. We don't know if maybe Jamis could be the start of the rest of the way, but obviously Jackson Dart has just as much potential to get Darius Slayton involved as we've seen with the two should have been touchdowns. And coming off a solid game where he left the the Week 10 game against Chicago, still had four catches for 89 yards. I just think based on what. What he's shown us over the last couple of seasons, whenever there's been a key member of the passing game missing, he stepped up and played well. So I like the upside for. For Darius Slayton very much.

[Dave Richard]

And Dave, Ricky, Pierce, all.

[Dave]

Don't forget about Ricky. Could be the number one wide receiver. Should be the number one wide receiver when he does come back for the 49ers. They're taking it a little slow with him, but he's been practicing. Brock Purdy will be back. Those two had a nice connection earlier on this year. The schedule isn't that bad. They've got a great projected schedule ranking rest of the way, and he could end up being someone that you're probably using at this point as a wide receiver. 3. And I bet he has a couple of wide receiver one weeks left in them.

[Dave Richard]

All right, I'm gonna.

[Jamie]

Yeah, we could also, like. I know it's not as fun and everybody prefers the young guy, but you could make basically the same argument for Juwan Jennings, who maybe has already started to break out.

[Dave Richard]

I'll make one more.

[Jamie]

Oh, no, go ahead.

[Dave Richard]

Now. Just one more player I wanted to mention is Jordan Addison, obviously, or Justin Jefferson. Right. He fits in the Barkley category. He's been a bust. It's not the best schedule they get the Bears this week. They're 28th against wide receivers. At Green Bay at Seattle could be tough weeks. 14, 15, 16. Washington at Dallas at the Giants. I don't. Again, I mean, if the Giants are healthy, that may not be an easy game and it could be bad weather, but you get a Washington, Dallas, Giants trio there for the. For the Vikings passing game. That's pretty fun. And then Detroit at home in week 17.

[Jamie]

I would just worry that against the Giants, they're going to throw 21 passes.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah. Yeah. Now, I just want to bring up one thing about the Bears, because David Romo dunes as a sell high. They could have a very cold finish to the season. They're at Minnesota, then Pittsburgh at home, then at Philadelphia, at Tampa Bay, Cleveland at home, Green Bay at home.

[Dave]

It's Green Bay, not Tampa Bay. They played Green Bay twice in three weeks.

[Dave Richard]

Oh. Oh, that's even worse at Green Bay. Yeah. Okay. I knew it was worse than the.

[Dave]

Yeah. So going to Tampa in December usually isn't.

[Dave Richard]

Well, even if it was Tampa, but. But a stretch of Pittsburgh at Philadelphia, at Green Bay, Cleveland, Green Bay for Chicago. That's a. That's a Potentially got some bad weather there. Obviously I can't predict that, but it's going to be cold. That I can predict.

[Dave]

And then the crazy thing about A Dunes is he had a great game last week. Beat up on a, on a banged up Giants defense. They were missing a couple starters. They've been missing a couple starters the week before. He has the matchup that everyone dreams of and he had a donut.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah.

[Dave]

And I do see the Bears and this lends itself to cold weather becoming a little bit more run focused. Especially in games that they have a lead in. They can run the ball. They've got two guys who are very capable of down to down having a good success rate and keeping the chains moving. Caleb Williams is improving as a thrower. It's great to see, but it's not like he's a guaranteed, you know, accurate downfield legend at this point. And I'm exaggerating here, but you get the point. I'm a little worried about A Dunes and the, the only reason why I would say sell high is if you can get top 12 value. I think he's, he's a number two receiver for fantasy purposes, but if someone is buying in after another big game the week after he completely torched us in the best matchup he could have had when his team scored 47 points. I don't mind if you can get top 12 value for a Dunes A doing so.

[Jamie]

It's really amazing that he scores five points against the Saints, five points against the Commanders, 18 against the Ravens, zero against the Bengals, and then 20 against the Giants.

[Dave Richard]

So if you look at the Bengals, I think they're about 15th or 16th against wide receivers. I'm not saying by any means that they are a good pass defense, but I've talked about this a few times. They keep everything in front of them. They see an extremely low A dot, one of the lower A dots from wide receivers. They're more vulnerable to like the short area guys. They give up a lot of yak. A guy like Roma Dunes A for whatever reason, I mean they did double him a decent amount. They keep everything in front of them. They, they. That's just Odunze was. He shouldn't have had zero catches. He did drop a touchdown in that game. But I, I guess maybe, maybe it wasn't as quite as good of a matchup as we thought. There's a question on the screen here from Dylan. Would you trade romo Dunze for A.J. brown and Jake Ferguson?

[Dave]

Yeah, I think that's enough for Odunze. Especially if you want some stability at tight end.

[Jamie]

Yep.

[Dave Richard]

Okay. All right, let's fire through the rest of these. Fill in the blanks here. I wanted to get to those league winners. Now let's do the rest. Tez Johnson is a wide receiver blank rest of season.

[Heath]

Three, two, three, three.

[Dave]

In the range of three. Hopefully he stays permanently. A three.

[Heath]

Two for this week.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

This week he is at Buffalo. Josh says RJ Harvey is a blank while Dobbins is out.

[Heath]

High end flex.

[Dave]

I'll go a little bit higher. I'll. I'll be in between you guys. Like a low end RB2, like RB20 through 24.

[Heath]

Are we sure he's going to get all the work?

[Dave]

No, I don't think very sure. He's not going to get all the work.

[Heath]

Is he going to get the majority of the work?

[Jamie]

I am.

[Dave]

I think he'll get a slim majority.

[Jamie]

What if they had three running back carries this year that were not him or Dobbins?

[Dave Richard]

You mean?

[Jamie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dave]

They're still going to use another guy.

[Heath]

Here comes John Payton.

[Dave Richard]

So they've been using. It's been two games in a row where JK Dobbins has run four routes on first and second down. So they've been using Harvey Moore in that regard. On first and second down to begin with. He has 4.3 yards per carry, is fine. His advanced metrics are awful. Some of the worst in the NFL or explosive run. Avoid rate percentage of carries for zero or negative yards. Five or more yards is horrible. But you know, he hasn't had that many carries, especially in any single game. So hopefully I'm a little. I, you know, that was interesting response. I thought it'd be a little bit higher than that. I thought it'd be more like a top 18 guy. So you guys are saying, you know, top 20 to. To 30.

[Jamie]

I'm probably. I'm in the top. I'll go top 18.

[Heath]

Okay. But I mean this week's not going to be easy, obviously. And when we get everybody back from bye weeks, it's tough to say that he's going to be that good if, if in fact Dobbins is. Is out.

[Jamie]

I think if they give him 15 touches, it might be like Travon Henderson where 12 of them are not that fun.

[Dave Richard]

Yes.

[Jamie]

But two of them are pretty awesome.

[Dave]

I do like a bunch of his games after the bye week. He's got the Commanders and the Raiders after the buy. That's pretty good. And then fantasy playoffs. It's Green Bay, Jacksonville, Kansas City. How many of those games. Is Dobbins going to be up for that? It. It does. I think maybe like short term, maybe we're selling them a little bit short. Jamie, that after the bye week, he could have a couple of nice games. If Dobbins is still out, I mean.

[Heath]

There'S certainly the potential for that. I mean, I was as high on him as anybody coming into the season, so I'm hopeful for that. But it's still a situation where clearly they have not trusted him to get any more work. Whether that's because Dobbins was doing everything they wanted to or they're just weren't ready to give it to him yet. I'm just hopeful that it's going to be him taking the majority, getting the majority of the touches as opposed to. We're still seeing more of a split because he wants to see what Tyler Bidet could do or Jaleel McLaughlin gets back in the mix.

[Dave Richard]

All right, we're gonna take a break.

[Dave]

Hold on. It could be three running backs. We're talking about a guy who's missing in Dobbins who's getting around 15 carries per game. I would imagine that a lot of that falls into Harvey's lap. It's just how efficient can he be? Adam, you talked about how he hasn't been that. I think we're starting him. I think we're starting him as an RB2. There aren't. There aren't 24 running backs that are. That have better outlooks than RJ Harvey at this point.

[Dave Richard]

Okay, we are going to take a break and when we come back, we got a few more. Fill in the blanks. We got some buy lows and sell highs. We got your news and notes for you and we'll, of course, preview Thursday night. We'll be right back. Football season is fun. I love every minute of it. But it's busy and I get tired sometimes. And all of us are busy and all of us get tired and. And we all need energy, focus and recovery. So let me tell you about Quicksilver Scientific, a US Company that makes advanced liposomal supplements your body can use fast. And I recently got my supplements delivered. Quicksilver Scientific is a leader in cutting edge supplement science. Quicksilver has a lot of great products. I ordered the Ultra Vitamin, a highly absorbable daily multivitamin in liquid form. It has vitamins for mood and energy, plus immune and bone support. It makes me feel energized and balanced every day. Quicksilver Scientific makes advanced liposomal supplements so you can actually feel the Difference, Energy, focus, calm recovery. Get 10% off and free [e-mail] FFT that's tryqs.com FFT these statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. People, I've already told you about Gold Belly. An amazing way to get the most iconic famous foods from restaurants across the country. They'll ship it anywhere. It's so good. Just a few days ago, for example, I had some brisket from Joe's Kansas City Barbecue. Incredible. But right now I want to talk to you about Thanksgiving and, and how Gold Belly can help. And if not Thanksgiving, then maybe a different holiday. Maybe as a gift, maybe just for yourself. But I'm hosting Thanksgiving and I am not cooking. I'll be ordering from Gold Belly. They've got so many different turkey options. Turducken is on there. How about lobster, Mac and cheese, apple pie? All of the sides you want. All from great restaurants around the country. The food is great and it's so easy to prepare. You're going to have an amazing Thanksgiving. I. I cannot recommend it enough. So if you're looking for that perfect holiday gift or want to impress your friends and family with an epic Thanksgiving, go to goldbelly.com and get 20% off your first order with promo code FFT. That's goldbelly.com code FFT for 20% off your first order. Hey, Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile. Now I don't know if you've heard, but Mint's Premium Wireless is $15 a month. But I'd like to offer one other perk. We have no stores. That means no small talk. Crazy weather we're having.

[Jamie]

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[Jamie]

I'll say 12 from the time he starts.

[Dave Richard]

Okay, yeah, pretty good schedule for him. But there is a buy still left for Purdy. A late buy from Wizzy. Woody Marks will finish as a top blank running back rest of season.

[Jamie]

25.

[Dave]

Yeah, kind of in that same range as Harvey. Although I don't think he's got quite as many roadblocks as Harvey has.

[Heath]

22.

[Dave Richard]

Okay. And Marks. Next two matchups are against Tennessee. They're 28th against running backs. And Buffalo, they're 26th against running backs. Let's hope Woody Marks can continue having that big role. From Daryl Davis.

[Heath]

This is a telling week for him just because his best games have come when they've been trailing.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, they're at Tennessee. Well, look, if he's really the main guy like he was last week, then this could be a good week.

[Heath]

Right?

[Dave Richard]

All right. From Daryl Davies. Thomas will call for timeout blank times during today's stream.

[Jamie]

0.

[Heath]

0.

[Dave]

How many times will he randomly have a beanie on?

[Dave Richard]

Did he have a beanie on yesterday?

[Dave]

You're going to have to go back.

[Heath]

And look during the timeout.

[Jamie]

All right.

[Dave Richard]

This is from the burner. Strawberry ice cream is a top blank flavor of ice cream.

[Dave]

30. No, it's like top 10. But it depends. Like, basic strawberry ice cream is no bueno. You've got to get like the authentic strawberries in the strawberry ice cream.

[Jamie]

Yeah, I want some strawberries in there.

[Dave]

Yeah, absolutely. Fresh made.

[Dave Richard]

I feel like it's one of those ice creams that three or four bites, you know you're enjoying it and then you're like, oh, this is just too much, too strawberry.

[Jamie]

What's. What's better is vanilla ice cream with sliced strawberries on it.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

100. Would you. Would you throw like strawberry sauce on top of that or is that.

[Jamie]

No, I'd put chocolate sauce on it.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, that probably makes more sense.

[Dave]

Vanilla ice cream, strawberry slices, chocolate sauce, whipped cream.

[Dave Richard]

Let's just keep going.

[Dave]

Whipped cream.

[Jamie]

Yeah, we don't need any whipped cream. This is the guy who said I made the announcement like two years ago that he had outgrown bacon.

[Dave Richard]

Like a.

[Jamie]

Little whipped cream on his ice cream.

[Dave]

Throw me in front of a bus if I ever say that.

[Dave Richard]

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[Heath]

Sorry.

[Dave Richard]

The offer is you can get up to $1,500 back in bonus bets with bonus code fantasy if you don't win your first bet. All right, news and notes. Jameis Winston expected to start for the Giants.

[Heath]

Let's go.

[Dave Richard]

So that's obviously. If Dart doesn't clear the concussion protocol, which is not expected.

[Heath]

I let him say, let's have fun. We're on week.

[Dave Richard]

I was thinking, though, has he. Is this the least amount of talent that you think Jameis Winston has had? Oh, it doesn't matter in a while anyway.

[Heath]

I mean.

[Dave]

Or the Browns throwing in Cleveland.

[Heath]

Right.

[Dave Richard]

Well, I mean, I think Judy is. They had Judy Tillman. What'd you say?

[Heath]

Judy Slayton. Slayton.

[Jamie]

Judy. It's all the same.

[Dave]

How many drops has Slayton had?

[Dave Richard]

How many drops? I don't know. Not as many as. All right, Jameis, where's he gonna be in your rankings to two?

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Probably 16.

[Dave]

That's the range.

[Jamie]

Not in the top 12.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Heath]

There's so many good quarterbacks this week. That's a problem.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Tua Mariota, Jamis rank.

[Heath]

That's the order.

[Jamie]

Oh, I will probably Mario Packers.

[Heath]

I mean, it's very good defense. He's playing.

[Dave]

Right. That's part of the problem.

[Jamie]

Right.

[Dave]

Yeah. I think it's kind of irresponsible to put Jameis higher. He. He. It's too irresponsible to put him above the Mariota line.

[Dave Richard]

Basically, every New England player was limited. Well, actually, Travion was upgraded to full, but Ramandre Stevenson was limited. Terrell Jennings was limited, and Keisha Booty was limited.

[Heath]

Austin Hooper, running back on the practical.

[Dave Richard]

They did add a running back with that. I think that could have been a terrell Jennings thing.

[Heath]

100. Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Jamie already mentioned that Jalen Warren could get more touches on third down gets the Bengals this week. He had a. He was the start of the week. Can you double double dip and start.

[Heath]

Of the week, get j. I'm not going to, but he's. He started in 90 of leagues already. It's too much.

[Dave Richard]

Travis Hunter is out for the season. Good news is it's an LCL injury. No other damage? Apparently so. Apparently should be a pretty smooth recovery. I don't know that this is one where we have to be concerned about coming back. I think this was the Rasheed Rice injury, but Rashi Rice also has something like a hamstring or something in there, so that's good for Hunter. Oh, here we go. I've cracked the Jameson Williams code, so.

[Dave]

I want to hear this.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah. Looking at what did they do differently? You might have heard that the under Dan Campbell, the Lions used a lot more motion. It's sort of true. According to True media, it was a lot more than what they used last week or I guess week nine. It wasn't a lot more than what they've used in previous weeks this year. But the main thing that I saw just based on the the numbers was they were under center a lot more. And then I said, does that matter? Well, Jameson Williams yards per out run out of the shotgun last three seasons, including this one, anywhere from 1.36 to 1.57 yards per outrun in shotgun under center 1.21 three years ago or two, you know, 20, 23, 3, 3.36 last year, 2.51 this year. I mean he is worlds better. Could just be small sample. I could just be whatever a fluke.

[Dave]

But.

[Dave Richard]

But it's this, it's play action. He's better off play action and he's better under center. And the commanders, by the way, they allow the most receiving yards per game on play action. So it was a good matchup for James Jameson, but the Eagles allow the third most and that's what he plays this week. So obviously joking about cracking the code, but if you're looking for one number one split one metric for Jameson Williams, you it might be that. It might be that he's just better when they're under center, when they're going play action and he's benefiting from it. That's what they did a lot of last week. Raiders guard Jackson Powers Johnson is on IR and Packers center Elton Jenkins is on IR and looks like he's going to be out for the season with a broken leg. An IDP name that I wanted to mention. You have to keep an eye on the injury report for Seattle. Is Ernest Jones going to play? If Ernest Jones is not playing, pick up Tyrese Knight. He was good filling in for Jones two weeks ago when Jones left with an injury and he had a great game last week. And he's facing the Rams, who will probably run a lot of plays and run the ballot. Dallas linebacker DeMarvian Overshone could be back this week. Could, could play this week. Eligible to play this week Monday at the Raiders. Terrific player before a devastating injury a couple years ago. And Philadelphia cornerback Jair Alexander is stepping away from football so he can get healthy.

[Jamie]

All right.

[Dave Richard]

They just traded for him so he won't be a part of the picture, it seems. Maybe not for a little while. Okay. We'll just pick up the scraps here real quick, guys. I know we always spent a while on this segment, but today we. We did the fill in the blank, so just the quick buy lows. J, you talked about Pure Saw and Barkley. Was there anything you wanted to add?

[Heath]

Nope.

[Dave Richard]

All right, so Heath, you talked about Burden. Was there anything you wanted to add in the buy low department?

[Jamie]

He's free, he's 21 rostered. This is the. Just take a chance. This is the type of guy you want to have on your bench because I do believe if they would just play him 70 of the snaps, he would be a must start wide receiver.

[Dave Richard]

Do you think, would you rather have.

[Jamie]

Burden or Darius Slayton entirely dependent on your roster? If I need somebody to start right now, it's got to be Slayton.

[Dave Richard]

Slayton still only 44 rostered. Is there any other by lows you wanted to get to or.

[Jamie]

Just that I thought I gave one more, but I can't remember what I said now.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, I don't remember seeing anything.

[Jamie]

I didn't send it. I said it on the show. Yeah, but you weren't listening. No.

[Dave Richard]

You did say someone, didn't you? Yeah.

[Dave]

All right. Who in the chat was listening?

[Dave Richard]

I don't remember because Adam wasn't.

[Heath]

Time out.

[Dave Richard]

Time out.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Jamie, any players you want to buy low on?

[Heath]

No. You said you didn't want to spend too much time on the segment, so I didn't want to give you any.

[Dave Richard]

All right, I'll just run through. Tell me if any of this resonates with you. Teams that play the Jets, Cowboys, Bengals, Commanders, Bears, Titans or Giants three or more times. Washington, Baltimore, especially Mark Andrews. Mark Andrews has the Bengals twice. The Steelers are horrible against tight ends. The Patriots aren't that good against tight ends. But Andrews has only one game with more than 34 yards.

[Jamie]

And do we care that Isaiah likely had more targets last week?

[Heath]

I wonder how much of that tied into Bateman's ankle injury too.

[Dave Richard]

Green Bay has the Giants, the Bears, the Bears twice, actually. They don't have that easy of a schedule, though. Jalen Waddle. I mean, it's not by low, but he could finish strong. Washington, then a buy. Saints, jets without sauce. Steelers, Bengals, Bucks, Patriots.

[Jamie]

Thank you, Darryl. Thank you, Ben.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, Marvin Harrison. Nice. That was your buy low, right? Minnesota, I mentioned they have that stretch of Washington, Dallas, the Giants. They also have Green Bay and Seattle and Detroit on there. So Minnesota's got kind of up and down schedule. New England Jets, Bengals, Giants, bye week. Buffalo at Baltimore at the Jets. It's really good, especially for the running backs. My goodness. Maybe Jamie, he will be that. That league winner, Travion Henderson.

[Dave]

And that's up to Mike Variable, man.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah.

[Dave]

If Mike Vrabel has seen enough and he's decided that that Henderson needs to be on the field and they need that speed on the field, then it's a rap for Ramadre, it's a rap for Terrell Jennings. And we're talking about like mega must start for Travion rest of season.

[Dave Richard]

Here's an interesting one. How about Garrett Wilson? So he's out three to four weeks. If he comes back for the fantasy championship you're reaching. It's probably. But it's Jacksonville at Jacksonville at New Orleans, New England. I don't know if New England's going to be tough. It's going to be easy. Probably not. If he comes back in three weeks, it's Miami at Jacksonville at New Orleans.

[Heath]

So.

[Dave Richard]

No, not interested.

[Heath]

Just ask Rich. So many. He probably knows.

[Dave Richard]

Well, someone dropped him in one of my leagues, so I. Oh, well, if.

[Dave]

You can pick them up for free, of course.

[Dave Richard]

Right. But I don't know that I'd want to drop. I think I would drop like Tajie Spears for him, I guess.

[Dave]

But there's a team in a league that I'm in that's desperate. For starters, they've got Garrett Wilson. They're trying to make a playoff push. My team's in first place, thank you very much. And so I offered DK Metcalf and Jared Goff for Garrett Wilson and Daniel Jones. I think that was the trade.

[Dave Richard]

What was it? And I got.

[Dave]

I got turned down.

[Jamie]

Well, I would have taken that deal.

[Dave Richard]

What was the trade?

[Dave]

It was. What's that?

[Dave Richard]

Say it again.

[Dave]

DK Metcalf and Jared Goff for Garrett Wilson and Daniel Jones. And golf is my backup quarterback. And I just acquired DK Metcalf earlier in the day.

[Dave Richard]

Okay, how about AJ Brown? So he's got Detroit at Dallas, Chicago at the Chargers, Las Vegas and at Washington and then at buffalo in week 17. But that's another team that's got Dallas, Chicago, Washington and the Raiders in there. And then Pittsburgh has good and bad. They get Cincinnati, Chicago, Buffalo, Baltimore, Miami, Detroit, Cleveland.

[Dave]

Yeah, not a bad schedule for the run game. Jalen Warren isn't a bad call.

[Heath]

All right.

[Dave Richard]

Sell high, Dave, what did you say? You said Romo Dunes A. And you also said Kamani Vidal. And let me ask you, do you think. What do you think the chances are that the Chargers backfield, when Hampton's back Is the next Bears back, next split.

[Dave]

Back, the next annoying split. That's going to drive fantasy managers crazy 100%, because they're not going to want to put it all on Hampton's play right away. They didn't want to do that before the season started. Remember, they had Najee Harris there, and they were using both of those guys. And Vidal has earned a role. And so it's not going to be 80%. Hampton 20, Vidal. When Hampton comes back, it's probably going to be close to 50, 50 at first, and then hopefully, for those of us that have been holding on to Omari and Hampton, he does emerge as like a 60, 40, 65, 35, that type of deal. But there. There's definitely going to be some presence of Vidal there, but the fact that both of them are going to work is going to water down their upside quite a bit.

[Dave Richard]

Okay.

[Dave]

The schedule's not so great either.

[Jamie]

I mean, we've been saying this for. Since before the schedule got good, but DeAndre Swift just faced the Commanders. Saints, Ravens, Bengals, Giants. Missed one of those games, missed the Bengals. And now he's going to face the Vikings, Steelers, Eagles, Packers, Browns, Packers. Like, and there's a split backfield. I. I would still be selling DeAndre.

[Dave]

Swift, especially since you can get high for him. Sure.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Dave]

You can't. It's the whole point of sell high. You can't look at just one word. It's both words you've got to try and get. You try and upgrade. Right? Isn't that the whole point? You're going to take Swift and another player off of your team and go get one of the top running backs in fantasy.

[Dave Richard]

Swift or Barkley, rest of season?

[Jamie]

Barkley. I'll take Barkley.

[Heath]

Barkley was close.

[Dave Richard]

Swift. Okay. I give you Swift, you give me RJ Harvey. And what else? We'll get that done.

[Dave]

A lot.

[Dave Richard]

A lot.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, is Mr. Sun coming out? Dave?

[Dave]

Yes. You can already tell.

[Dave Richard]

I can see it's getting a little foggy over there.

[Dave]

Oh, yeah.

[Dave Richard]

You know, I. I don't know if you guys want to have this conversation, but I was.

[Dave]

It's half here.

[Dave Richard]

I'll be on the box score about maybe selling Jackson, Smith and Jigba, because I just feel like. I mean, he's having one of the most statistically improbable seasons. Well over four, with, like four and a half yards per route run. Here it comes.

[Heath]

Oh, yeah.

[Jamie]

Here comes the sun. That's great.

[Dave Richard]

And I didn't know what you thought about that. Like, I. I Was just looking at a team in my league in which I have just. I have Jackson Jigba. And I was saying, oh, maybe I'll offer JSN for Barkley and Jefferson. Would you do something like that? Would you. Would you even entertain it or just keep jsn? But I. My point would be like, they had. They threw 12 times last week and he still had a great game. I compared it to Aaron Judge hitting.400 for about a month and a half or something. You know, he's the best player, but he can't be this good. So I don't know your thoughts on that.

[Heath]

I mean, clearly, if you could turn them into two studs, like, you know, again, I know it didn't work out the way you were hoping for, but you're Christian McCaffrey trade, right? Like, that's the type of move you have to make. You got to get. Yeah, you gotta get two top 10 caliber players.

[Dave]

Listen, his value has steamed up so much because of what he's done. One of the hottest, absolute hottest prospects in the National Football League. So you don't want to get burned by. By giving away JSN and not getting enough back for him. But I mean, he carries a lot of heat. He's a league winner.

[Dave Richard]

That's so great. Okay, you think you're more likely to. To look for trade offers or just write it out with jsn?

[Jamie]

Write it out?

[Dave]

Of course you're writing it out. Well, do I write it out with the best receiver in fantasy football? Yeah, that's kind of the whole point of why we're playing.

[Dave Richard]

Okay, can I just tell you that last, last year, there was a wide receiver who averaged 18.7 PPR fantasy points in his first nine games and then 29.2 fantasy points in his last eight games.

[Jamie]

Is that Jamar Chase?

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, it was Jamar Chase. My point again. What's that?

[Jamie]

You might do it again.

[Dave Richard]

You might do it again. Yeah, I don't know. My point is these things happen. You know, guys gonna. Obviously JSN is going to finish maybe his wide receiver one, but he might have a worse second half than first half. Just. There's just not that many pass. Well, whatever, whatever.

[Heath]

Whatever.

[Jamie]

Last five games, JSN's averaging 25.2 PPR fantasy points per game, and he's not been as good as Jamar Trace.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, I wasn't even trying to compare this, but that's very interesting. Any other sell highs or.

[Heath]

We.

[Dave Richard]

We good there.

[Dave]

I've got a buy low. Oh, I'd like to buy low on some drapes for my house. Any great salespeople in the chat today? Blinds even.

[Dave Richard]

Let me throw out a team that has a terrible schedule, I think and you let me know it's got some terrible terribleness in the schedule.

[Dave]

I'll tell you where they rank in the fantasy.

[Dave Richard]

Talk about Patrick Mahomes. He has four matchups against teams that are currently top three against quarterbacks. Denver this Week, Houston Week 14, Chargers Week 15, Denver Week 17. Anyone care?

[Dave]

No one's going to sit him for it. He's got a bottom five projected schedule, rest of season. So does Josh Allen, Jared Goff, Caleb Williams and Geno Smith. We can make the case for Gino. No one's starting Gino. Who cares about Gino and Caleb? Yeah, it's going to get a little tougher. He's got those matches against Green Bay. But everybody else who's like a stud, they're studs. You're gonna start them if you want to try and sell high on them. What's the plan then? The plan is to go to the team that's streaming quarterback or you know, lost Jane Daniels, something like that. And you're going to offer them homes for a non quarterback and then stream quarterbacks. Depends on the player you get from homes. But sure.

[Dave Richard]

I mean you look at the last two games for Drake May, I think everyone, we all know, we love Drake May, right? But he scored 20.4 and 22.1 fantasy points in his last two games. You say I've got Mahomes. He's facing Denver twice, Houston and the Chargers. Drake May has a pretty damn easy schedule going forward, I think anyway. So I'm not saying one for one, but do you think you can get May and you know, RJ Harvey for, for Mahomes? Would you even do that?

[Jamie]

I would do that.

[Heath]

The main manager is moving him.

[Dave Richard]

Not the like not the savvy May manager. But there's plenty of fantasy managers that say, oh, Patrick Mahomes, Drake May hasn't been as good the last couple weeks. I think it's doable.

[Dave]

You could try it. But it's Jamie's right. Most people that have Drake made, they're thrilled to have gotten him because it's such a great draft value. They're not going to want to let him go. They would let him go if it's to get Lamar or Josh Allen, but that's probably about it. Go ahead.

[Heath]

I was gonna say the one scenario is, you know, mace bye week is still out there.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, that's another thing, right.

[Jamie]

I. I think the. That the guy you may be able to do that with is Jalen Hurts.

[Dave Richard]

There you go.

[Jamie]

He's coming off of a bad game. He's always doubted.

[Dave Richard]

Yep.

[Jamie]

And he has the Raiders commanders and Bills in the fantasy playoffs.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, yeah, That's a great idea.

[Heath]

Right.

[Dave Richard]

You got to get something with it. But are you all right? I'll just finish with this. We'll take a break and do Thursday Night Football. But are you worried about Mahomes? Are you worried about. I mean, no one's gonna she. Rice will be unaffected, most likely. But you worried about my homes down the stretch?

[Dave]

No.

[Heath]

I mean, if your expectation was what we saw from a homes in that stretch or it looked like he was vintage Mahomes and you're thinking, okay, I have that again. And then he has the sneaker against Buffalo, and now you're looking at the schedule like, oh, could this be another, you know, just mediocre stretch of games for him, then you should be concerned. But if you're looking at it and say, okay, Rice worthy suspect run game, maybe some shootouts there, then you should be fine. I mean, look, he's. I, I think David Heat said, like, you're not benching him unless you've picked up someone along the way that you just feel has huge, immense upside and you can't afford to bench that guy. And I don't know if there's been a quarterback that's.

[Jamie]

No.

[Heath]

Recently come off waivers that's like, that recently.

[Dave]

The closest guy would be Jacoby Brissette. And as much as I like Jacoby Brissette, there's no way I'm benching Patrick Mahomes or Jacobi. And Mahomes is still like, is it an upgrade to go from Drake May to Patrick Mahomes? Yes, but I'm not giving. I would love. I. I would love to get RJ Harvey with Drake May and give up Patrick Mahomes.

[Dave Richard]

I'm. I don't think it's so specific. I just want to know in general what you were like.

[Dave]

That's the type of deal, like, you're gonna have to throw in something to. To get Mahomes. But why even bother doing it if you've already got Drake May?

[Dave Richard]

All right, well, listen, if you have two quarterbacks and Mahomes is one of them, and just something to think about, just be aware. Denver twice, Houston and the Chargers and.

[Dave]

Expecting him to fall into 20, 24. Patrick Mahomes, there's no way you could expect that given the Receiving core like Jamie laid out. Having Rasheed Rice back is just huge for him.

[Dave Richard]

Okay. All right. We're going to take a break. Oh, man. The moment you've all been waiting for.

[Heath]

You know, I will say this, though. There is one quarterback that you might be able to get that's better than Moms.

[Dave Richard]

James Winston. Oh, Joe Burrow.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, Joe Burrow. Let's see. He was 50% rostered yesterday and he is currently 70% rostered. And waivers are going to run again tonight, so he'll be close to 100.

[Heath]

So that's one. Like if you picked up Burrow and you want to trade Mahomes, I'd cosign that if you.

[Dave Richard]

I just don't know for sure that he's coming back because he.

[Heath]

He. I have to have another. You know, if you're.

[Dave]

Of course, Flacco.

[Heath]

Flacco, Burrow and Mahomes. Those are your quarterbacks. One's on IR and somebody offers you something from homes that you like. I'm doing it.

[Dave Richard]

There you go. We're gonna take a break. Jets and Patriots when we come back.

[Jamie]

Jamie just gave me an idea.

[Dave]

Oh, what's the idea?

[Jamie]

In our YOLO Dynasty league, Jamie and I are tied for first place with Nick Costas. Dave Richard has, I believe, Joe Burrow on ir. Is that correct, Dave?

[Dave]

It's correct, sir.

[Jamie]

And I. And Dave is rebuilding. And I wonder if there's a. A deal where I could trade him Patrick Mahomes and maybe a Garrett Wilson for Joe Burrow and a wide receiver that he has on his team who's very young and I seem to like more than he does.

[Dave]

Is it do. Is there a game to preview? Adam, we should get on with the show.

[Dave Richard]

Okay.

[Jamie]

Public trade negotiations.

[Dave Richard]

I love it. Jets are at the Patriots. All right, that. I forgot what my role was there. Oh, look at.

[Dave]

Look at you. Look at this.

[Dave Richard]

He's got the I heart Drake May shirt.

[Heath]

Yes.

[Dave Richard]

That is great. Paying up the bed.

[Jamie]

And Mike emailed me today and said that he is delighted because I have Drake May at QB1 this week.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, you do have Drake May at QB1 this week. How about that Stat of the game. Only two running backs have scored more than 13.1 PPR fantasy points against the Patriots. They are Bijan Robinson and Devon Hn. They both had eight catches for 50 or more yards. So starter sit Breeze Hall. Starter sit any jets halls and RB2.

[Heath]

It's very difficult to sit Breece hall with the state of the running back position and no Jonathan Taylor. And for what it's worth, no Alvin Camara and just the injuries that we're dealing with there. So I would love to say sit him if you can, but that's just incredibly difficult.

[Dave]

Yeah, I've got him ranked outside my top 20.

[Dave Richard]

Right.

[Dave]

Fully buy into this Patriots run defense. Fully expect the Patriots to not do what the Browns did last week and struggle to slow down Breeze Hall. This is not a good matchup for him. I don't see him getting a ton of targets and catches in the game like those other running backs did. He's gonna need a. I, I, you know, he's, he's a talented running back, but it was kind of fluky to catch a screen pass and take it 40 yards to the house. He's gonna need that again in order to come through for fantasy managers.

[Jamie]

I hope, I hope that the jets were like, oh, that guy's good in space. We should maybe throw it to him more often. And not Isaiah Davis, because it's just criminal that he gets one target.

[Dave Richard]

But you have him, what, 17th?

[Jamie]

Yeah, yeah. I don't, I don't, I don't love him. I actually, Because I'm, I'm higher than everybody else on Harvey. Like, I, I'd start travion over him. I'd start R.J. harvey over him. I'd start ETN over him. You're obviously starting doubt all over him.

[Heath]

Yeah, I mean, look there. There's certainly plenty of scenarios we can sit Breeze Hall. I just thinking, you know, when we say starter sit and where we have them ranked, it's just, it's just hard. You know, they're not as we see. 85 is probably one of the lowest start percentages for him in a while.

[Dave]

He started the year getting four targets in four of his first five games. So they know that he can catch the ball. They know that he can do that. Three targets or fewer each of his last four games.

[Heath]

And he had for last week, you know, he could have easily quit on the team if he wanted to. You know, he wanted out first game following the trade deadline. He played, he played great resolve.

[Dave Richard]

Had about had three targets and two catches in each of the first two games he played without Garrett Wilson. He had about a 10 target chair. So if you're thinking, oh, well, they're gonna throw Tim More with Garrett Wilson out. That hasn't been the case so far. It might happen, but it hasn't been the case so far. So. So yeah, he said Harvey overhaul. How about you, Dave and Jamie? Harvey or Hall?

[Heath]

I have hall higher I have hall higher but I'm very close between hall and Marks.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, how about Manangai?

[Jamie]

No, no, all over.

[Dave Richard]

Okay, so any other now that James.

[Heath]

Is starting I might go Devin Singletary?

[Dave Richard]

No. Any other jets you might consider?

[Jamie]

No, no, no.

[Dave]

What they said.

[Dave Richard]

Okay. And then Drake maybe fourth for Jamie, sixth for Dave, first for Heath.

[Jamie]

Why are you guys always doubting Drake May? I think the third week, third week in a row I'm the high guy and Drake May, he's been really mediocre the first two so it's great.

[Dave Richard]

Any reason why he he ended up as number one for you?

[Jamie]

High implied point total, bad defense he's facing. He's very good.

[Dave]

Okay, what is the point high implied point total for the Patriots?

[Jamie]

I don't know.

[Dave]

Is it like 28 ranking them number one?

[Jamie]

It is exactly 28.

[Dave]

Yeah, I think it's pretty good.

[Jamie]

Not quite 27.5.

[Dave]

Oh, well then he sucks and you have him right? Too high. No, I'm just kidding around. Yeah, might have them a little too low. They should be able to do whatever they want against the Jets. I don't think they're secondaries. I mean listen, Jerry Judy caught a touchdown. Gabriel threw the ball a decent amount last week. The secondary isn't very good if anything their run defense came to play last week but they also stacked box against Winshon Judkins and I don't see the jets doing that this week which actually makes me like Travion a little bit more. But I do think Drake May has like a solid game, 252 touchdowns, maybe 20 yards rushing.

[Dave Richard]

So he's played.

[Heath]

The thing that you want to hope for as the Drake May manager is this is the showcase for MVP game.

[Dave Richard]

But he's played three games where they've blown out their opponent 42, 13, 31, 13, 32, 13 did not throw more than 24 passes in any of those games. However, he scored 27 or more fantasy points in all three. Okay, he ran very effectively in those three games but it's always a little bit of a concern the low pass volume. But Drake May as a start, I guess Would you all start him over Mahomes this week?

[Heath]

Yes, yes.

[Dave Richard]

Okay. Would you start? I know obviously the answer for Heath but for Dave and Jamie Drake May or Justin Herbert.

[Heath]

Herbert's the start of the week. I haven't one spot head.

[Dave]

I've got my head.

[Dave Richard]

All right. Anyway, start him then we'll talk about the running back. Well, you know, we'll save the running backs to last real quick Hunter Henry Any interest in Hunter Henry?

[Heath]

I just think there's so many better options at tight end. He's been so disappointing lately. He's coming off tying his worst performance of the season, which was 1.9 PPR points, which he did, I believe in week one or two early in the season. So just given the state of the position, he's not horrible. Matchup's not horrible, but I just think there are better options out there. I think it, it helps that Austin Hooper probably not going to play.

[Jamie]

Here's the, here's some analytics for you. The last time he had 1.9 fantasy points, he followed that up with 29.

[Dave Richard]

Oh man, that's, that's a good, good note. So all right, Patriots wide receivers. Dave, give me the scenario here for, for these guys again. Three blowout wins, no more than 24 past attempts in any game. You did have Mac Hollins, who had a season high 83.3% route participation rate last week without Booty. But Booty was limited. Anyway, you what do you think about the Patriots wide receivers?

[Dave]

I like Stefan Diggs the best still. He leads the patriots with a 30.6% target per route run rate this year with 9.1 yards per target. When Drake May isn't pressured and I don't think Drake May is going to get pressured, I, I, I think that he'll be able to have time to pick apart that jet secondary and that makes me encouraged. Even though Diggs doesn't play quite as much as some of the other receivers for New England. So he's my favorite of the three. I would call Mac Hollins like a desperation receiver. You've got to be in like a 16 team league with a bunch of sharks and you know, a bunch of flex spots on your squad and desperate at wide receiver to go with him. Kyle Williams has to be on fantasy benches too. I would rather have burden than Williams, but I do think that he's a good stash play. You love the speed that you saw last week at Tampa and he's somebody who could potentially earn maybe a little bit more playing time, but I don't see a pathway to him being a featured player for New England for the rest of the way.

[Dave Richard]

Are we excited to start Diggs this week or sort of begrudgingly starting?

[Dave]

It's the same every week with him. Like he's living anywhere between like 22nd and 30th among wide receivers in PPR.

[Dave Richard]

He'S caught a touchdown in three straight games. He's had a target share of 21.7% or higher in three of his last four games. But he is really reminding me a lot of Keenan Allen because the yards stink. 46 or fewer yards in four of his last five games. For Stefan Diggs, he's playing right around.

[Dave]

70, 75% of the snaps, or that's his route rate. Excuse me. So he's at least. He's doing better there than Keenan Allen, but the comparison is fair.

[Heath]

He'll score.

[Dave Richard]

Tess Johnson at Buffalo or Stefan Diggs. I think I have Steph.

[Jamie]

Higher.

[Heath]

Oh, that's for me. Two.

[Dave Richard]

Two digs and a Stephen. How about Troy Franklin against the. How About Stefan Diggs vs. Either Broncos receivers against the Chiefs?

[Jamie]

Diggs.

[Heath]

I'll take digs over both.

[Dave]

I've got both ahead of Diggs.

[Dave Richard]

How about Debo Samuel at Miami or Stefan Diggs?

[Jamie]

Diggs.

[Heath]

Diggs.

[Dave Richard]

Debo, Travion, Henderson or Stefan Diggs?

[Dave]

Henderson, Henderson.

[Dave Richard]

Trey, Breeze, hall or Diggs?

[Heath]

Digs and ppr.

[Jamie]

Yep.

[Dave Richard]

All right, Treveon, Henderson, Heath. How do you rank him without Ramandre? How would you rank him if Ramandre plays without Ramandre?

[Jamie]

He's the highest of the RB2s. I think I have him at 13. With Ramandre, he would move into the low RB2 range, probably closer to 22 or 23.

[Dave Richard]

Do you guys feel similarly?

[Heath]

He's the number one guy for me. He's 11. All right.

[Dave]

I'm a little guy. I've got him 16. That's without Remandre.

[Dave Richard]

If Ramandre plays is who's the highest rank, who would be the higher ranked guy?

[Jamie]

Henderson.

[Heath]

Henderson.

[Dave]

Henderson. But it'll be very close and it'd.

[Jamie]

Be haul over both if from Andre Place.

[Heath]

That's fair.

[Dave Richard]

All right, so we'll give you a. We'll give you an update tomorrow when we see. I mean, I'm assuming. I'm assuming that he's going to be limited again. From Andre Stevenson. He's been limited twice.

[Dave]

I don't. I don't know if he was practicing with the team either.

[Heath]

I don't think he was on the side.

[Dave]

Yeah. Usually when they're limited and practicing on the side, like we've come to learn that that means that they're not going to play.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, and a short week, too. It's not good. Patriots DST start them. Two terrible games in a row, but this one should be a lot better. All right, that would do it for Thursday Night football. We had 10 minutes left and nothing.

[Dave]

Oh.

[Dave Richard]

Ooh. I'm gonna answer some starter set questions. I'm sorry for this game, Mayor. Stafford.

[Dave]

I've got Stafford.

[Dave Richard]

Higher. Meyer, Mahomes. We already said May on that one. Start to Henderson, Rico, Dowdle, Quinshawn, Judkins, Javante, Williams.

[Heath]

I'll go Henderson and Dowdle.

[Jamie]

I'll go Dowdle and Juvante.

[Dave]

That's how I have it, too.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, this one is such a bad comment. Well, it's not that bad of a comment. Pats are a paper tiger. They don't have a tough game all year. Gonna get stomped in the playoffs. They have one at Buffalo and at Tampa Bay. So let's give them a little credit there. I do kind of feel like they're not quite. I feel like they're this year's version of the Broncos. They're. They're. They might get their butts kicked in the.

[Jamie]

I wonder where they're at in the Super Bowl. Odds.

[Heath]

They might get the one seed, though, which.

[Jamie]

Yep. Yeah, I think that'd be my expectation. As they do.

[Dave Richard]

Well, then they won't get beaten the first round.

[Heath]

Right.

[Dave Richard]

Henderson or Devonte Adams. And half.

[Heath]

But it will be interesting to see what the. What the lines will be if it's Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, at New England or at Indianapolis. Round one and then round two.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Half ppr. Henderson or Adams?

[Dave]

Devonte Adams.

[Heath]

Adams.

[Jamie]

Yeah. Just make sure that Adams is participating by Thursday.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah. Stafford or May. I think we just did that one. I'm sorry. And rice or Henderson?

[Heath]

Rice.

[Dave Richard]

Bryce, your favorite variety of rice. Brown, white, fried, fried rice.

[Dave]

Yellow, no sprouts, right?

[Jamie]

Yeah, fried.

[Dave Richard]

I don't like brown rice. Brown rice is awful. I used to like it. Now it sucks.

[Dave]

I always okay if it's fried brown rice, but then it kind of defeats the purpose.

[Jamie]

Yeah, I like brown rice.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, you would. All right, we chat. We've got about four minutes left to have some fun here, so ask us some questions. And there. I'll just.

[Heath]

Oh, you're supposed to tell the origin.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I didn't get that clip ready. I'm very sorry.

[Heath]

Oh, you suck.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, I didn't mean to click on that one. Would you trade Breece hall for Jalen Warren and Teterroa McMillan?

[Jamie]

Yes.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Okay, how about start two? Chase Brown, David Montgomery. Chase. Let's get the matchups. Chase Brown against Pittsburgh. David Montgomery at Philadelphia. Rashad White is at Buffalo, and RJ Harvey as the Chiefs start 2.

[Jamie]

Brown and Harvey.

[Dave]

I've got Harvey ranked the highest among the others.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah. A note on Chase Brown. He played, I think, 97 of the snaps. Two weeks ago and that was with Samaj P. Ryan getting hurt on the opening kickoff or something like that. So major boost in his value with P. Ryan out, will that be the same this week? I don't know, but that was significant. Very significant. Charbonnet or Taj Spears? Charbonnet is at the Rams and Taj Spears has the Texans.

[Heath]

Spears.

[Dave]

I'll take Charbonnet.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

The Titans, by the way, have a brutal schedule to finish the year. Not that that really over. I know. Sticky rice. Sticky rice is like Chinese food, right? Or no, I think it's like a. Or is this something perverted that I shouldn't be saying Garrett Wilson is down there. Should I take it for Jameson Williams?

[Jamie]

I'd rather have Jamo.

[Heath]

I'd rather have Jamo too.

[Dave]

What if you're totally loaded at wide receiver and Jamo's on your bench, then.

[Heath]

He'S a healthy guy on your bench as opposed to Garrett Wilson who may not play again.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, they could easily shut him down, right?

[Dave]

Yeah, they could.

[Dave Richard]

Sticky rice is a Asian thing. Asian dish. Flacco or Hertz this week. Hurts, hurts, hurts. Oh, I forgot to mention this. Jacori Crosky Merit or Jacoby Myers? Is the question in full ppr?

[Heath]

We forgot to mention Myers.

[Dave Richard]

What is the Chris Rodriguez news?

[Dave]

He looks like he's gonna play.

[Heath]

Dan Quinn said he's gonna play.

[Dave Richard]

Okay, Chris Rodriguez then should. Should be a waiver wire consideration for you. He played 17 snaps in the first half. Jacori Cross Marriott played four. Jeremy McNichols played six. They made him their starting running back. They made him their their running back. He's 11% rostered. Chris Rodriguez. Did I get him in the podcast league?

[Heath]

I believe so, yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Let's go. All right. All right, I'll ask just a few more here. Brissette or golf?

[Dave]

I have Brissette higher percent.

[Dave Richard]

And is it time to move on from a non guy for Sean Tucker or Woody Marks in ppr?

[Dave]

Marks, yes. Tucker no.

[Heath]

All right.

[Dave Richard]

Content calling this a show. Manangai, by the way, mentioned this on beyond the box Score. Basically split series for the first three quarters and then he barely played in the fourth quarter because they were trailing.

[Dave]

Right.

[Dave Richard]

But you could still expect them to split series. This is why we said DeAndre Swift sell high. And it doesn't mean that Manangai has no value here. And I'm not saying start him over Woody Marks or anything, but just throwing that out there.

[Heath]

All right, just if you're looking for somebody that might be available, Terry McLaurin is starting to do on field workouts so he made the trip with them. They have their buy next week. So there you go. Hopefully back week 13.

[Dave Richard]

And I have to say a big apology for completely whiffing on Veterans Day yesterday, not wishing all of our veterans a happy Veterans Day and thanking you all for your service. Much appreciated. Obviously you guys are heroes and girls are heroes. So I hope you had a great Veterans Day and thank you so much. And our guy Robert Thomas, who moderates our Facebook page and is usually in the chat, but I don't see him today. He is a veteran and he says he's going to the Steelers Bengals game this week. I remember he said this yesterday in the chat. Going to the Steelers Bengals game. He's going to. He wants to bring a sign that is Dan Schneier inspired. So let's go. It's got to be wh re. I mean, you got to figure out something.

[Heath]

Picture of Dan with like a nose drip.

[Dave]

Oh yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Nose strip.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Anyway, all right, have a great day everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow with the AFC home. See you Paramount podcasts Sunday Count on.

[Jamie]

An NFL on CBS doubleheader with early action featuring a must see matchup between.

[Dave]

The Buccaneers and Bills.

[Jamie]

Later, it's an AFC west showdown when.

[Dave]

The Chiefs face the division leading Broncos.

[Jamie]

He's got him.

[Dave Richard]

Touchdown.

[Dave]

It all begins at noon Eastern with the NFL Today live in Denver. You can always count on Sundays with the NFL on CBS and streaming on Paramount. Plus.