Mailbag and Fantasy Cops! (09/20 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Fantasy Football Today: Mailbag & Fantasy Cops! (09/20/25)

Podcast: Fantasy Football Today
Episode: Mailbag and Fantasy Cops!
Date: September 20, 2025
Hosts: Adam Aizer, Heath Cummings, Jamey Eisenberg (with appearances from Dan Schneier)
Theme: Weekly mailbag episode featuring listener questions, lineup advice, Fantasy Cops league dispute resolutions, and lots of banter.

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Episode Overview

This episode revolves around helping listeners dominate their Fantasy Football leagues as the hosts answer mailbag questions (mostly start/sit and waiver dilemmas), debate trade and league etiquette issues in their “Fantasy Cops” segment, and share stories from behind the scenes at FFT. There’s also plenty of personal chemistry, storytelling, and inside jokes familiar to longtime listeners.

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Key Segments & Notable Insights

1. Intro & News and Notes

[02:24–06:40]

• Personal Banter & NYC Food Recs:

  • Adam and Heath open with a discussion about NYC concerts, iconic Katz’s Deli, and Adam’s rye bread aversion.
  • “The rye. The bread is just a vessel for what’s in between the bread.” – Heath [04:11]

• Injury Updates & Player News:

  • Ameka Egbuka: Looks good for this week, returned to practice.
  • Jaden Daniels: Missed practice, expect Mariota to start.
  • Tucker Kraft: Not expected to play, consider alternatives like Luke Musgrave.
  • Darren Waller: Likely to return next week.
  • Packers WRs: Don’t expect one dominant target. Heath likes DonTavion Wicks as a flex, Adam also mentions Romeo Doubs.

  “Jordan Love and Matt LaFleur are not target-one-guy kind of player, you know, play callers and quarterback.” – Heath [05:21]

• Heath’s Giants Game Banter:

  • Discussion of attending upcoming night games, friendly ribbing about ditching each other at tailgates.
  • Tennis rivalry story featuring Adam vs. Dan, with fantasy draft pick swaps on the line.

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2. Mailbag Q&A

[08:16–29:47]

• Rapid Fire Start/Sit & Waiver Dilemmas:

  • Superflex: Sit one (Jameson Williams, DJ Moore, Jared Goff, Jake Browning)
    • Consensus: Sit Jameson Williams.
    • “I guess I’d start DJ Moore over Jameson Williams. I think I’m a little higher on DJ Moore...he’s due.” – Adam [09:30]
  • Drop Aaron Rodgers for Jake Browning?
    • “I’d rather Brown, I guess. It’s not so exciting.” – Adam
  • Trevor Lawrence or Geno Smith from waivers?
    • “I’d take T-Law, do that too.” – Heath [10:22]

• Miscellaneous Flex, RB, and Trade Advice:

  • Full-PPR flex: Jerry Jeudy vs. Cam Scadaboo vs. others
    • "I think I'll go Jeudy." – Heath [11:35]
  • RJ Harvey: Drop or Hold?
    • “I’d not cut Harvey by any means. He's a perfect back-end bench guy for the second half.” – Heath [14:00]

• More Waiver Wire Advice:

  • “If it’s not like Facio Tootin or Quinshon Judkins [on waivers], hold Harvey.” – Jamey [13:34]

• Favorite Packers WR This Week [05:21]:

  • Heath: “Setting up to be a big DonTavion Wicks week… I do think Wicks will be hopefully a good play, but it could be [Malik] Golden too.”

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3. Origin Story: FFT Podcast Lore

[16:23–24:26]

• Listener Paul asks about the origin and evolution of the podcast family.

• Adam recounts joining CBS circa 2009, and the show’s original names (“Fantasy Football Playbook”).

• Jamie and Heath share early memories, including Westwood One radio studio days and moving to remote podcasting.

  “It was a pretty successful show because it was one of the first podcasts… Every sports podcaster really owes a thank you to ESPN.” – Adam [20:42]

  “I can’t tell you how many people in our industry… have said, ‘we’ve done our show because of what you guys did.’” – Jamie [20:53]

• Adam shares his leap of faith moving to NYC and almost quitting until a supportive CEO pushed for remote hosting.

• Dan Schneier is ribbed about being a Giants “guru.”

• All agree to do a full “lore” episode in the offseason due to popular demand.

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4. More Mailbag & Trade Talk

[25:02–29:35]

• Start/Sit Debates:

  • Multiple questions about RB depth (Hampton, Henderson, Tootin, Harvey, Charbonnet).
  • "Right now, the guy I have ranked the highest is Henderson." – Jamey [25:30]

• Waivers: Upside Prioritization:

  • "I would go with the guy who’s got the most upside, which is Harvey." – Heath [26:21]

• Grade the Trade:

  • Waddle + Warren for Gentry: “Huge win on paper… Not as big in the current reality” – Dan [27:44]
  • Swift for Laporta or Conner for Kraft: "Swift for Laporta is the only one I’d consider." – Jamie [29:08]

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5. Fantasy Cops: League Disputes & Etiquette

[36:32–44:47]

• Roster Churning (Tight Ends Blocking Opponent)
  “Within the rules, but bad sportsmanship. We have a rule against that in the FFT Open.” – Adam [37:25]

• Playoff Trades: Fair or Foul?
  “If you’re not mathematically eliminated, do what you want.” – Adam [39:45]

• Chronic Trade-Undoing Guy ('Steve')

  • Listener frustrated by manager who repeatedly asks for trade vetoes after having remorse or confusion.
  • “You’d like to take him on his word, but if there’s a pattern, let the commissioner decide.” – Jamey [44:20]

• Notable Banter:

  • Playful complaints about truck driver managers checking phones while sending trades:
    "Please don’t look at your phone while driving a truck and accept trades." – Heath [41:59]

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6. Listener Mailbag (Apple Podcasts & YouTube)

[45:24–61:04]

• Start/Sit, Waivers & Trade Grades Continue:

  • Topics include rookie RBs slow start (advice regret), full and half-PPR lineup decisions, emphasizing patience with rookies.

    "If you don’t walk away from your draft with two rookie running backs, you’re making a mistake. I said something like that…maybe it will end up being good advice. I hope it does." – Adam [56:20]

  • “It could still work out for these rookie running backs. We have a great rookie class…it’s only week two.” – Adam

• Team Name Jokes:

  • Listeners submit fantasy team names ("King Tootin" / "Vladimir Tootin" / "Oil of Olave"). Hosts evaluate the puns.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• "The bread is just a vessel for what's in between the bread." – Heath [04:11]
• "It was a pretty successful show because it was one of the first podcasts… Every sports podcaster really owes a thank you to ESPN." – Adam [20:42]
• "We're so in tune with these things... For the casual fan...you click accept/counter by mistake. Oh, man, I didn't mean to do that." – Jamie [50:49]
• "If you’re not mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, do what you want." – Adam [39:45]
• "It could still work out for these rookie running backs. We have a great rookie running back class. I think it could still work out for sure. But I do feel bad for the people who are 0-2—and I’m one of them in several leagues..." – Adam [56:30]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:24] – Opening banter, concert, and Katz’s Deli
• [04:27] – News and notes (injury updates, Packers WRs)
• [08:16] – First mailbag segment (start/sit, waivers, trades)
• [16:23] – Podcast origin story (“FFT Lore”)
• [25:02] – More mailbag (waivers/trades)
• [36:32] – Fantasy Cops: League disputes and etiquette
• [45:24] – Apple Podcast mailbag, inside jokes, trade advice
• [54:45] – Rookie RB self-critique
• [59:22] – Final rapid-fire start/sit/waiver Qs
• [61:04] – Goodbyes

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Tone, Chemistry, & Listener Experience

The FFT crew delivers the content with their signature blend of friendly banter, relatable fantasy pain points, inside jokes, and deep knowledge of rosters and league tactics. The show features tangents—from sandwich critiques to truck driver league managers—but always returns to actionable, informed advice for fantasy football managers.

For both seasoned listeners and new fans, this episode showcases the breadth of the show: practical start/sit and waiver wire help, engaging personal stories, and a peek “behind the podcast curtain.” The hosts’ honest reflection on their advice (“Do I regret hyping rookies?”) is refreshing, and their handling of tricky league disputes adds real-world utility.

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Conclusion
Whether you sought Week 3 tactical tips, want help resolving a league dispute, or are just here for the camaraderie, this episode delivers a full-service Fantasy Football Today experience.

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[Jamie]

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports.

[Heath]

What a play. Can you believe this? No, I can't.

[Adam]

It's time to dominate your fantasy league.

[Heath]

Off to the races and he stays on his feet. This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and.

[Adam]

It'S mailbag time. What's going on? Recording here on Friday, September 19th. If you're listening. It is Saturday, September 20th. We welcome you to Fantasy Football Today, presented by BetMGM, the sports book Born in Vegas. Schneier, you ready for the. Ready for this bag?

[Heath]

I'm ready for this bag. And I know you've got a concert to go to tonight in New York City, and I think. Can I give you one piece of advice for this concert?

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do what I did last Friday after j. Rad appear 17.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Heath]

Head on down. Get an Uber or a taxi cab, whichever you prefer. And end your night with Cats Deli. Because I hadn't had it in so long, man, and I just can't describe the listeners who haven't had it, who don't live in this area.

[Adam]

It's.

[Heath]

It's better than your best approach shot in golf. It's better than you're best serving tennis. When you bite into that pastrami, man. I have a picture, too, on my Twitter. If we want to throw it up just to show how good it looks. It just. There's nothing like it. Like, I've. A lot of people have done pastrami, hot pastrami, but no one does it like Cats. So end your night at Cats, enjoy it, then go home, and you're going to be so much happier that you got that reward after the show.

[Adam]

Okay, couple things. Obviously, I can't do this because I have to get home to relieve the babysitter. You know, we have kids. Okay, Fair number two. And I'm going to say this, and you are not going to react. We're going to move on right to the next topic.

[Heath]

Disgusting.

[Adam]

I've never been a cat's deli. Okay.

[Heath]

Oh, you. That's pain. Why you live in New York.

[Adam]

No reacting. Let's just.

[Jamie]

Let's.

[Adam]

No reaction.

[Heath]

We need to move on this second. Talk another 15 minutes and discuss.

[Adam]

I. Throw the picture up. Throw the picture up, Josh. Let's. Let's do this. Oh, I don't like that. What is that? Is that.

[Heath]

What do you mean?

[Adam]

What kind of bread do we have there?

[Heath]

It's rye.

[Adam]

I hate rye bread. Oh, God, do I hate rye bread.

[Heath]

Dude, the rye. The bread is just a vessel for what's in between the bread. Unbelievable spicy brown mustard. And just even better. You don't even need the mustard. But it's good. But look at that. It's overloaded. Sandwiches falling out.

[Adam]

Look at that pastrami.

[Heath]

It's so good.

[Adam]

It looks good. It looks good. All right, News and notes. Ameca buka looks good for this Week's game against the jets, he returned to practice. Jaden Daniels missed practiced on Friday, so I think right now we have to assume it's going to be Mariota. Tucker Craft missed practice. I am definitely not expecting Tucker Craft. You make alternate plans. If you can't find anyone good off waivers, then Luke Musgrave is an option. I probably start him over the 49ers tight ends, for example. Okay. If he doesn't play, I do think it's a little bit of a boost for the wide receivers, but it's just hard to say because they really spread the ball around. I guess it might get me to throw golden in a lineup or something like that, but they're, they're saying that. That Kraft should not need ir but if they're even saying that, that just kind of makes me feel like it's very unlikely he's going to play on Sunday. So have alternate plans and on Sunday I guess we'll talk about the wide receivers. Who, who would be your favorite wide receiver on the packers this week at Cleveland?

[Heath]

It's setting up to be and we discussed this at length on beyond the Box or this week a big Don Tavian weeks week. Now let me preface that by saying I apologize to all of you who we've set up for big Dantavian Don Tavian Wicks weeks in the past. Last year there were supposed to be a few of them. They never came. The Packer a really difficult offense to figure out from a standpoint of where the ball is going. Jordan Love and Matt LaFleur are not target one guy kind of player. You know, play callers and quarterback. So I don't want to get too over my, you know, what's the two over your skis? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go over your skis with it. But I do think Wicks will be hopefully a good play. But you know, it could be golden too. Golden. Separation score last week. Adam, I don't know if you saw this, but a separation where was best in the NFL. He was getting open. Love just missed him. So one of those two. I'd honestly be okay playing either.

[Adam]

Okay. I mean I even think Romeo Dobbs is worth, worth a look.

[Heath]

Yeah, always.

[Adam]

Let's see Tyler Warren practice. Darren Waller is probably going to be back next week. They faced the jets on Monday Night Football. He was very close to playing in week three. And the left tackle that gets talked about way too much on this show. Giants left tackle Andrew Thomas is going to be a game time decision for Sunday night against the Chiefs but we.

[Heath]

Do have expected to play from what.

[Adam]

I've heard Dable just said, it's gonna. They're gonna take it right up till game time.

[Heath]

Yeah. But there's some more optimism behind the scenes. We'll see.

[Adam]

Okay. Are you going to the game?

[Heath]

I will be going to the game.

[Adam]

Nice.

[Heath]

Obviously the night games are my only chance to go to games. Are you going?

[Adam]

No, no, no. Sunday night.

[Heath]

You would have told me if you were.

[Adam]

Yeah, Sunday night. You know, we have the show, but they have what? They have a Thursday nighter against the Eagles.

[Heath]

They have a Thursday night against the Eagles. Maybe we'll both go to that one.

[Adam]

Yeah, maybe. Maybe we'll hang out.

[Heath]

Maybe. Take a look at that.

[Adam]

You could ditch me at a tailgate again and leave me with total strangers.

[Heath]

Don't bring the ditch at the tailgate story. I didn't ditch you. I went away for. I had a lot of people wanted to meet up. I wanted to meet up with them too. I went away, left you. My brother should have been a good experience for you. My brother's a good guy. And now you guys have a mini rivalry going that you don't even really know about. But he really wants to play and he doesn't like that. I said, I think you're better, a little better than him at tennis. I just played him last weekend, Adam. I beat him 616261. We played three sets. And he's getting better. Like he's now committed. He's been golf his whole life. He's now committed. But I think you're better than him. And he.

[Adam]

I am better than him.

[Heath]

He does not like that. His quote was, the only reason Adam got four games off you in the second set is because you were out of gas completely. And you were not like that against me. And he's right. I wasn't like that against him. But what he's wrong about is that you made a lot of good shots in that second set. Your forehand was starting to hit winners and you were just playing a lot better.

[Adam]

Okay. All right. So this is last thing about the tennis match. I just want to say that the prize that Dan had for beating me was that he got to swap draft picks with me in the third round of the FFT draft. And he did so. And he drafted. And he drafted James Cook. He drafted. I was going to take James Cook. And of course I'm playing Dan this week in that league.

[Heath]

And you got Henderson. Ooh, I play 14 snaps a game. Henderson now, I'm kidding. It's more than 14, but yeah.

[Adam]

All right, let's get to some emails here. By the way, JB should be joining us shortly. I'm going to just check in with him. I'll send him a little text here. But Jamie should be on soon. Emails fantasy football cbsi.com Please put actually you don't have to put anything in the subject line. Just make it obvious that it's a fantasy football email. And you can put fantasy cops in the subject line because they're coming up a little bit later. But it's Fantasy Football. At CBSI the letter I.com this is from Chris. Super Flex start or sit? We need to sit one Jameson Williams, DJ Moore, Jared Goff or Jake Browning.

[Heath]

Let me start by saying shout out producer Josh and shout out all our producers. But I'm so happy to get these questions now like with an actual thing on the screen, Adam. Because I'd always forget the names in question. That's how washed, I think brain warped I am by the end of a work week. And I know you feel the same at times. So if we're sitting one of these. So thank you there for sitting one of these in a super flex. It's obviously not golf, especially six point passing TDs. But he does say Browning is his other option. So I guess he can go Browning or golf there. Adam. So we should probably answer that. I'm gonna go, I think.

[Adam]

Okay. Yeah, you're right. Go ahead.

[Heath]

Keep going. Right. I don't.

[Adam]

I'm gonna sit. I'm gonna sit. DJ more no, I'm gonna sit. Jameson Williams.

[Heath]

Yeah, sitting. Whoa. Big change. No, I I like even though I don't love goth outdoors, I do like the game script. I should be able to get and got in the Lions versus Raven. So I'm gonna keep Gotham and keep Jameson in.

[Adam]

All right. I guess I'd start DJ Moore over Jameson Williams. I think I'm a little higher on DJ Moore. I just feel like he's kind of he's do J. Moore.

[Heath]

2J more 2J.

[Adam]

He's due. Yeah. Okay. This is from Jim.

[Heath]

Oh man, that was bad.

[Adam]

12 team league. I have Jamar Chase and Chase Brown. Should I drop Aaron Rodgers to pick up Jake Browning as my backup quarterback? I'd rather Brown, I guess. Yeah. It's not so exciting. Caleb wants to know Jacques Tilon Gino are available.

[Heath]

I take t law do that too.

[Adam]

Should I start Jacori Crosky Merritt against the Raiders or Ramandre Stevenson against the Steelers?

[Heath]

I my feeling is if Mariota plays. And you said at the beginning of the show that the expectation is he will. I think that's my expectation as well. They're gonna do a lot of things to design to get the run game going, and it's going to be a good run game because I trust Cliff Kingsbury's ability to have a good run scheme. So I'm gonna go with Bill.

[Adam]

Okay. The. The Steelers run defense has been absolutely abysmal. 100 yards to Breece Hall. 100 yards on only 13 carries to Ken Walker.

[Heath]

Yeah, I mean, matchups wise, you might think it's Stevenson. I'm gonna go with Bill, though.

[Adam]

I'm also gonna go with Cross Gamer. I like him. I think, you know, we barely got to see him play last week, but he looked terrific against the giants in week one. This is from Dave in Flint. Dave is 02, doesn't know what to do. I guess I'll ask you. Ppr. I added that, not him. Ppr. Flex start. Jerry, Judy, Cam, Scatter, Boo Dylan Sampson or Juwan Johnson?

[Heath]

Full pbr. I think I'll go Judy there.

[Adam]

All right, Jamie, we've got Jerry, Judy, Cam, Scatter, Boo Dylan, Sampson or Juwan Johnson.

[Heath]

Oh, nice haircut, Jamie.

[Jamie]

Yeah, thanks, buddy. I had no issues.

[Heath]

Yeah, you got your. You have. You're locked in like you. That's the benefit to having one person cut your hair every time.

[Jamie]

Juwan Johnson.

[Adam]

Jamie.

[Heath]

I was thinking about going Joanne Johnson. I just thought it was too crazy, but might be the move.

[Adam]

Did you part it in the middle, Jamie?

[Jamie]

No. And I told her the story, too.

[Adam]

Did you.

[Heath]

What did she say about that? Has anyone. Has she ever heard of anyone?

[Jamie]

Always got to ask the customer what they want beforehand, right?

[Adam]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Heath]

And she. She did, though, she asked, how do you usually get. How do you get it? I said, you know, a two on the sides and trim it on the top. It's a simple ask, but then at the end, how do you wear it? That's the problem. It should start with, how do you wear your hair? With the. The combed over. But is what it is, man.

[Jamie]

I think it's just go, flow, be for now. There's no chance Dan knows what that is.

[Adam]

There's no chance Adam knows what that is. But that's the thing. Like, I will sit there and admit it. I was about to say, I don't know what that is. Dan's like, yup, totally, man.

[Heath]

I got caught doing that.

[Jamie]

I can't see it.

[Heath]

Oh, you see that?

[Jamie]

Owen, too? Yeah.

[Heath]

Not bad. It Kind of comes in. Jamie, what's the problem, I realize is what's gonna happen. We get to like, oh, and 12. I don't think I have the magnets right.

[Jamie]

I want to order some more.

[Heath]

I have to order some more. And maybe I'll make these ones not white.

[Adam]

What's a flowbe?

[Jamie]

Flow be is a thing that it looked like a vacuum and it was like a razor.

[Heath]

What? In what movie?

[Jamie]

Real life.

[Heath]

Oh, both of you.

[Jamie]

Google it right now. Google flow be.

[Adam]

Okay, there's a question from Taylor.

[Heath]

Let's see.

[Adam]

Is it safe to drop RJ Harvey for players off the waiver wire, or should I keep holding R.J. harvey?

[Heath]

Whoa, this thing looks weird. This flowby.

[Adam]

Keep holding.

[Heath]

It really does keep holding. R.J. harvey.

[Jamie]

Yes. Unless. Unless it's like facial Tootin or Quin. Sean Judkins, because we saw that prior to last week that ESPN leagues, Yahoo leagues, they may have been available. You know, so if those types of players were not drafted, then you might be able to buy some time with Harvey on your waiver wire. But, you know, we're talking about very, very small sample sizes of situations.

[Heath]

I would not cut Harvey by any means. He's a perfect back end bench guy for the second half of the season.

[Adam]

You cannot.

[Heath]

You cannot possibly. What?

[Adam]

Jamie? You could not possibly think that I said 12:15. Start time for the mailbag said that this morning. I said 12:10. I said 12:00 clock. Will start at 12:10.

[Jamie]

You said 12:15.

[Adam]

I don't think so. It is on the air.

[Jamie]

It was after the show was done.

[Heath]

Oh, I have to go back to the date.

[Adam]

Yeah, no, I said 12:10. There's no way I said 12:15. Okay, but now we know why Jamie was late. I guess that I'll take some responsibility for that.

[Heath]

But don't call it late then, if you're the reason why it happened.

[Adam]

But it wasn't really me. I mean, I'm gonna. I'm gonna jump on the grenade for Jamie, but I think it was Jamie. This is from.

[Jamie]

You know, you know what Adam likes to do. If there was ever a show that I was doing and it was.

[Adam]

Comment from the chat, he said 12.

[Jamie]

Everybody there? You know what I would do? I would. I would have said. I would have texted me before starting. Right. Not after starting.

[Heath]

That's a good point too. Why didn't you text him? We're about to get.

[Adam]

Jamie is wrong about every angle of this. I did say it on the air. And I said 12:10. I got a lot of confirmation in.

[Jamie]

The chat you still started without me? This is. This is a theme for you.

[Heath]

Adam.

[Adam]

Dan said he's in a rush.

[Heath]

Don't blame it on me. Now you want to get to your concert and get your dad?

[Jamie]

You know, this is Dan week one, Sunday of week one. Thomas sends us the schedule when we're doing the wrap up show. My son's birthday. Oh, I make sure that I'm going to be there for what time we're starting on the schedule. Adam says we're starting early.

[Adam]

Okay, that was a miscommunication. And it wasn't his son's birthday. His son's birthday was the next day. I can't believe he was lying about.

[Heath]

Becoming more of a dictator than I ever imagined he would be.

[Adam]

All right, we're gonna take a break, try to get things back on track.

[Jamie]

Every show should be at night.

[Adam]

We'll be right back on Fantasy football today.

[Heath]

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[Heath]

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[Heath]

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[Adam]

I got some fun questions coming up. I got some starter sits, obviously, we got the fantasy cops. Let's read this fun one here from Paul. Okay, so the FFT subplots are fantastic. Would you all please spend 7 to 10 minutes. No, not that long. On how this all came to where it is today. I have this impression that you four. I guess, no offense, probably talking about me, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.

[Heath]

Yeah, that's.

[Adam]

Are responsible for the entire CBS sports podcast family. Not too sure if that's true. You all are how I discovered podcasts. And anyway, it'll be very entertaining from your perspective. For example, who came up with the idea and when? Whose mom's basement did it start in? Getting CPS to sign on, going national, whatever the best parts. Maybe have Dan interview you all, but don't let him get distracted. Otherwise. Fridge magnets, sandwiches, new jerseys in the center of the universe, etc.

[Jamie]

That'd be fun.

[Heath]

We should do a show on that. The origins of the podcast and all the insider notes that I'm sure people would love. FFD lore, if you will.

[Adam]

I don't know the origins of the podcast. I came before you. Yeah, so I started in [e-mail] and it was, I think a year old at that point. Do you remember what it was called, Jamie?

[Jamie]

I don't know if we had, like an MH Fantasy football.

[Adam]

It was the fantasy football playbook and the baseball show. Yeah. And the baseball show was a fantasy fantasy baseball hit and run or fantasy hit and run or something.

[Heath]

I still think it's crazy that you and Heath used to be on baseball, Adam. I will always find that crazy.

[Jamie]

Crazy. I hosted the first baseball podcast.

[Heath]

Oh, my God.

[Jamie]

With you, Mac and Ganos. Yeah.

[Adam]

I don't think I knew that. So what. Yeah. What was it like? Was just you and Dave or you, Dave and Emac?

[Jamie]

We used to have Westwood One in our old building, so if you're familiar with, like, NFL games, Westwood One usually broadcast NFL games. I think they still do. I'm not sure. Yeah, they broadcast the NCAA tournament, you know, so it's a very popular radio network and they were run out of our building. So there was a full fledged radio studio in our building, our old building. So Dave and I would go in there and the radio producer was kind enough to set it up for us, whatever. And we would just talk like this, you know, no real structure, you know, outside of maybe going game by game. And then Adam came in and it was like, mind blowing because he was, as you know him now, like, he was so detail oriented. He was trying to boost numbers. He was, you know, really made the show much more professional. I don't think he was scheduled to host it. I think it just kind of worked out that way that you were the most natural person to host, if not mistaken.

[Adam]

Yeah, I think so.

[Heath]

When was that? Around what year? Around what year, Jamie?

[Adam]

2009.

[Heath]

2009. Because I remember when I was first at the company in 2019, Adam, I don't know if you remember this, but I was in Florida for something and you were there. I don't know why you were there, but we were watching the Daniel Jones debut in the preseason against the Bengals. I don't know if you remember this. And I. I wasn't with the fantasy team at the time. I was with the NFL team at the time. I remember talking you about it and. And you. And I was like, who are you? And I didn't even know anything about you because I didn't know FFT at the time. And it was just. It was just. You were. You were. I'm trying to remember if you were excited or not about the Jones. I think you were. And you got Me excited about it. So just so much has changed the years. I barely knew you at the time.

[Adam]

Yeah. So we, I guess, have really grown a lot, obviously. It's funny that they started out in a. In a legit radio studio and now we. In our. In our houses and apartments and whatnot. We've had a lot of cast, a lot of characters throughout. Throughout the time. But yeah, I mean, I think the, The. It was a pretty successful show because it was one of the first podcasts. And honestly, I think every podcaster, every sports podcaster really owes a thank you to ESPN because they started. They did a lot of podcasts early because I graduated college in 2006 and I did not know what a podcast was, that it really was like an unknown thing. And then the beginning of sports podcasts was just people would put interviews, make MP3s of like interviews with coaches and stuff like that, and make them downloadable, and that was a podcast. And then eventually started doing shows things. Things like that.

[Jamie]

I can't tell you how many people in our industry have. That I met have said, we've done our show because of what you guys did.

[Adam]

Yeah, we were one of the originals for sure. And I think that. And that's helped us grow this audience, which is great. But yeah, that's kind of the origin of. It was like it started before me, and then I was just so lucky to come in and they let me host it. And I don't. I don't even remember how that happened. I remember the first time hosting it was. I think it was just me and Dave, if I recall. And he was. And he. Before we started, he goes, ask me about any player you want. And I was blown away because back then, you know, I was a big football fan, but I didn't know the fourth wide receiver on every team or something like that. You know what I mean? And, yeah, I mean, I didn't have. I didn't have any idea how to host a fantasy football.

[Heath]

It was different back then. You could get into this industry in a very different way. Like, my introduction to this industry was simply finding. I saw a tweet from Chris Wesling, RIP Amazing man who was working with Rotor World Time. And he's just like, the Rotor World Twitter account is so ridiculously undermanned. Found his email said, I'll work it for free. And that's how I got into all of this. So it's just like I did that for a little while. That's how I got into this. I would have never gotten into this working a 9 to 5 job in the city that I hated and I never would. I just like, I'll do this for free. Met a bunch of people through there, leverage it into different spots. But like, you had that opportunity back then and like you said, you didn't really have the depth of knowledge you have now. And once you start working in this industry, you start to learn a lot more too.

[Adam]

Oh, yeah, for sure. And the last thing I'll say is that I was sort of the podcast manager for a while at cbs. On a lower level, I used to.

[Heath]

It was different.

[Adam]

I used to edit and post podcasts for like the ion college basketball guys, you know, or.

[Heath]

Oh, really?

[Adam]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I, at one point, I think.

[Heath]

Business back then, podcast, that's the thing.

[Adam]

It took a while for people to realize, whoa, we got something here. It was, we. It. We kind of cool that we have really witnessed the evolution of podcasting and now we have so many podcasts and they're all so good. We have such great hosts, such great talent. It's really cool. Like, just check out all that. Go to cbsports.com podcast.

[Jamie]

I think the evolution of your career. Adam's been the most fun to watch just because you really made a tough life decision that, that, you know, thankfully, our CEO at the time loved our show and loved you so much that he was like, no, no, no, no, no. We're gonna make this work. And do you know this, Dan?

[Heath]

No, I don't know this. I don't know where he's going. This is Nando.

[Adam]

I quit my job to be the.

[Heath]

Host of CB of Fantasy Football Today.

[Adam]

I was. I was working in Fort Lauderdale doing this job, you know, hosting baseball and football podcasts. Doing a lot of video stuff too.

[Heath]

On the side, essentially.

[Adam]

No, no, it was just part of my job. And then I.

[Jamie]

No, Adam was like our main video host.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Adam]

And then I met my wife who lived in New York. We dated long distance for about a year, and then I moved and I was like, I'm quitting my job.

[Heath]

Oh.

[Adam]

And I got. I don't know if it was before. I think it was before I got up to New York. The CEO Jamie's alluding to at the time, he's like, let's just figure out. Because people did not do remote podcasting.

[Heath]

At that point at the time. Yeah.

[Adam]

And was like, let's see if we can do it remote. And so I did it in New York and I was able to keep the job. Thank you, God.

[Heath]

Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, yeah.

[Adam]

That was. That was 10 years ago or something like that.

[Heath]

Wow. So, so different.

[Adam]

Wild. Oh, it's fun, man. Yeah. Thank goodness we ended up.

[Heath]

You're like, oh, we won't give you seven to 10 minutes. We ended up going for like 15 minutes probably on this. I see in the comments people want it. We should do a lore episode at some point. I'll do the hosting because it all goes on you guys. You guys are the lore guys. So I. I want to hear about it all. I want to hear about Heath's transition into this, like, all of it. So one day we'll do it. It's an off season show, obviously, but at some point in the off season.

[Adam]

I tell you, I didn't. I didn't really care for Dan when I first met him because I was. What? I was intimidated because I had a hard time accepting. I had a hard time accepting that someone could know so much more about the Giants than me. You were an expert. I always thought I was this huge fan, and when I started talking, he was like, whoa, different breed.

[Heath]

Someone call it a sickness. And they'd probably. They'd probably be right.

[Adam]

All right. This one's from Andrew, by the way. Jamie, thank you for those kind words. I appreciate that. Even though you were very late today.

[Heath]

And blamed it on you, but you were probably. It probably was your fault.

[Jamie]

I was texting with. With Jim Lanzone to tell him. Thank you again.

[Adam]

Yeah. That was the CEO. Hampton, Henderson, Tootin, Harvey, Charbonnet. Pick one hand. Hampton, Henderson, Tootin, Harvey, Charbonnet.

[Jamie]

I would go with. I want to say Charbonnet, but I'm so concerned about his health right now.

[Heath]

Yeah, it can't be sharp.

[Adam]

I think I'm going Hampton.

[Heath]

I'm debating maybe. No, it's too crazy.

[Jamie]

I think actually in PPR right now, the guy I have ranked the highest is Henderson.

[Heath]

Henderson. Just because you'll get the catches.

[Jamie]

I. I think. Well, first off, will Stevenson do that again? And what we saw in week one was a competitive game. Not that the game last week wasn't competitive, but they were chasing points, and it wouldn't shock me if they're chasing points against Steelers.

[Heath]

Yeah, I think I like that.

[Adam]

By the way, sorry. Jaden Daniels is out. Marcus, Mario.

[Heath]

Oh, wow. Ruled out.

[Adam]

From Michael.

[Jamie]

You saw Abuka, right?

[Adam]

I saw. He's practicing.

[Heath]

Yeah. Who? Who?

[Adam]

Abuka. All right, from Michael. 10 team league. Who would you pick up? He needs this guy for week five because Swift and Jalen Warren are on a buy. Trey Benson, RJ Harvey, Rashad White, Kareem Hunt.

[Heath]

Harvey.

[Jamie]

For me, I don't think you could look at any of these guys and say I'm guaranteed to get a starter for week five. So I would probably go with the guy who's the most upside, which would be Harvey. And maybe by then he is getting work or J.K. dobbins is injured. But I mean, look, Trey Benson, who knows what could happen? Any of these guys could be in feature roles.

[Heath]

I'll go, Harvey. There's so much upside long term.

[Jamie]

Yeah, I totally agree.

[Adam]

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[Heath]

Oh, these have got to be parents and Seinfeld.

[Adam]

Yes. Yep, they do have to be that. All right, ppr. I gave up Jalen Waddle and Jalen Warren for Ashton Genty.

[Heath]

Yeah, I mean I, I like that idea. It's a huge win on paper. Let me be clear. I want to make the counter argument slightly. It's a huge win on paper and it's not as big a win in the current reality. If you've watched and Jiggum and I went into this in depth this week, the Raiders offensive line is generating absolutely no push in the run game. They are one of the two or three or four offensive lines like the Giants that just simply cannot generate push at all at the point of contact. So for Genti to get his points right now, it's not easy in my mind at least. Like just the reality of situation. I know on paper it seems amazing. Reality situation is how is he going to get his points? It's either going to be short touchdowns, I think the occasional play that's blocked up. Well, there haven't been many at all so far for the Raiders it's been one or two on tape in the first two weeks or receiving work. The receiving work doesn't look to be there and it looks like from What Chip Kelly said this week they're still going to plan to rotate backs. He said, I want to have Genti fresh for the end of the season. The long plays, maybe they come one or two, and then the red zone touchdowns. The offense hasn't been what we hoped it would be, and it's been closer to what Vegas projected, which is six fewest points on the season I think Vegas was at. So I don't know if the reality is as good as the on paper, but it's obviously something I would do. Waddle and Warren for Genti.

[Adam]

All right, this is from Elio 12, Team PPR. Would you rather trade DeAndre Swift for Sam Laporta or James Connor for Tucker Kraft?

[Jamie]

So we have news on Craft. He's not going to practice today. Matt Lafleur sounds like he's not gonna play. I would. I would guess that if you can. Well, you know, I'm sorry. He's trying to trade Connor to get Craft. So if you're gonna have to make one of these trades, it would probably be for laporta.

[Heath]

Yeah, I would never trade Connor for Craft. I guess I would do Swift for Laporta.

[Adam]

This was a better question before the Craft injury. I'd be a little hesitant to make that trade with Kraft's knee injury. All right, from John Dear Pete, Taco, Ruxon, and Andre.

[Heath]

I'm sorry, these are.

[Jamie]

I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna say what it is, but Dan's just gonna laugh at this. I just got a text from somebody in our. In our league that we don't like. Guillotine. I was gonna say. It's gonna say that.

[Heath]

My bad. Oh, no, never mind.

[Jamie]

I'm not gonna say this.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Jamie]

Oh, no. Thanks for ruining the moment.

[Adam]

Unbelievable.

[Heath]

Why did I do that? Why did I do that?

[Adam]

All right, question from John. I have Trayvon Henderson. I have Trayvon Henderson, RJ Harvey, Cam Scatter Boo, Basil Tutin, and Zach Charbonnet. Oh, wait, I think I already read this one. Right? This looks like. I don't know. I screwed this up. I'm sorry.

[Heath]

I screwed this up.

[Adam]

Oh, no, no, no. He needs to start two in ppr. Okay, there it is. Travion Harvey, Scattaboo, Tutin, Charbonnet. Pick two.

[Jamie]

If Charbonnet is fine, I would go Charbonnet and Henderson. If Charbonnet does not play, I would go Henderson and Scatterboo.

[Heath]

I'll go Tudin and Henderson.

[Adam]

All right, so I got it. So this needs to be addressed. So Mark, in the chat Says best team name in a while. King Tootin. Come on.

[Heath]

I don't get it. So.

[Adam]

Oh, King Tootin could. Come on. Yeah, because, like, King Tut and the full name is Kamun or something like that. Yeah, that's the thing. Like, it's not Tut, it's Toot. So I don't think this is a good team name.

[Heath]

This one's even better. Vladimir Tutin. That one, I think is kind of funny and decent. It's not great. Like, you don't really want it as your team name, but, like, I like that better.

[Adam]

I mean, it is better than King.

[Heath]

I don't do team names well, Adam, and I know that about myself, and I'm just willing to admit it. I'm not very good at it. But two things I wanted to do this week. One, I'm so disappointed in our fantasy football today league. I, for some reason don't have the option of changing my team name. It. I go to change it and says, like, you don't have access to this, so you can you change that at some point because. Because I want to do it so much because I have drafted in that league, Chris Olave. So I was going for Oil of Olave with a two sign. Just the letter, too. That's what I want so bad to be my team name. But also quick team name to run by you. I don't do them often in my. And actually, no, I shouldn't even say this. It's a copy. Never mind. I copied off of some. Another name that I saw. Damn it.

[Adam]

Okay. All right, next question's from Mario.

[Heath]

I have Saguan Barkley, and I made it Bobby Barkala.

[Adam]

Who's that?

[Jamie]

Oh, that's so horrible. Go away, Sopranos character.

[Adam]

All right, all right, here we go. Mario. I could trade Travion Henderson and Nico Collins for Brian Thomas Jr. And Chase Brown. Would you do that?

[Jamie]

You're giving up.

[Heath]

Who's the best player? Who's the best player in that. In your mind? Yeah. Okay. I thought you said you're getting the best one. I'm very, very much lower on Chase Brown. Rest of the year with. With Browning and.

[Adam]

Yeah, all right. But I. I mean, I still think.

[Jamie]

That'S a trade you should make, though. Just because you're getting. Thomas is not that far off. Obviously, they both have struggled, and Chase Brown should still be better than Trayvon Henderson.

[Heath]

Yeah. I don't hate it. I just don't think I'd do it.

[Adam]

Okay, last email here, and then we'll do fantasy Cops, Apple Podcasts and YouTube. Would you trade having your favorite fantasy team finish dead last this year in exchange for the Giants beating the holy crap out of the Chiefs so you could lord it over smug Heath?

[Heath]

Wow. So this is a loaded question. Yeah, I'm not going to address the smug Heath part. Heath is a man and I love he.

[Adam]

No, he's the only thing I, I went back and forth with Jake in this email. He only thinks he's smug about the.

[Heath]

Chiefs and he, and that's a very good point, he is very smug about the Chiefs and even more smug about how much he thinks the Giants are a joke. And he at least during the Daniel Jones, he really held that over us. So I, I do respect that to some extent. But as a, as a human being and a co worker he is actually awesome. With that said and I'm and I'm glad that he clarified the email but that said no, I would not do this and I know that could be, you know, used as a slight against me and my Giants fan hood. The Giants are an 02 team and they don't currently have super bowl aspirations. So for me to sacrifice a Week 3 regular season win to have my favorite and most important fantasy team, my home league team finish dead last and have to do the last Blake punishment and all of that, heck no, I'm not doing that. And if you can't respect that decision, that's okay. I. This isn't easy. No for me.

[Adam]

Interesting. It's a yes for me because I don't have any bad last place I don't have any bad last place punishments so that helps still be willing in.

[Heath]

Your most the league you want to win the most to be dead last. It's such a bad feeling.

[Adam]

I yeah. And I've never finished last. But I got to tell you this is an important update. I've got some real contenders this year. I've got oh boy, I got some. I've got my SFT Open league is Hampton, Genti, Hawkinson, Judy. I am screwed in that league.

[Heath]

I've got a real update to make now too then a little early season brag and a victory lap that you should never take in week two across the board. Check a look at all the CBS leagues we're both in. I'm two zero and the worst thing I am is one on one in the auction league and that one I still have third or fourth most points in. So you guys got problems this year. Jamie, take a look. I think I beat you twice last week, Jamie. If I'm not mistaken. I had two matchups against you won them both. Adam. I beat you every time these days.

[Adam]

So. All right, let's take a break. We'll do the Fantasy Cops when we.

[Jamie]

Take a look at your roster because now I know what players are getting injured with that karma.

[Heath]

Absolutely.

[Jamie]

So true.

[Adam]

We'll be right back on fantasy football today.

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[Adam]

Okay, here we go baby. It's time for the Fantasy Cops. The first one is an easy one. We're gonna do it quickly. We can just get Jamie to chime in on this. He says, from Theo, we have someone in our league that picked up a tight end three days in a row to have those players be put on waivers. So his opponent didn't have a tight end option to pick up because he had Brock Bowers last week. Is this a good strategy or just plain unsportsmanlike? Even though it's within the rules to.

[Heath]

Add drop players, it's not unsportsmanlike, it's against. It's a knock on the commissioner because there is a setting you can do in the league so the players don't immediately go back to waivers if they're cut within a certain amount of time frame. So I think it's just bad commission.

[Adam]

I don't know that setting, honestly, in CBS leagues I don't think that's the.

[Jamie]

Setting for us either.

[Heath]

Maybe not in cbs. I'm thinking Yahoo. So yeah, maybe if you read.

[Adam]

I was just going to give this one to Jamie real quick. So Go ahead, Jamie.

[Jamie]

I think it's a bad sportsmanship.

[Adam]

Yeah, you can't do it. There's actually. If you're in the FFT Open, I don't know if anybody bothered reading the rules. We have a rule about this. You cannot add players just to drop them and put them on waivers. That is ground be kicked out of the league. All right.

[Heath]

He's going to police that.

[Adam]

The commissioner.

[Heath]

I have to. Okay. Okay.

[Adam]

Well, if it happens, you let me know and we'll take care of it. But no one in the open is going to do that.

[Heath]

Good luck. Hopefully they won't do that because I ain't going to be policing those rosters.

[Adam]

You just got to tell me if it's happening.

[Heath]

That's all I know. And you're expecting me to be able to police that with 26 leagues this year?

[Adam]

You get the emails? This person added this players. You get the emails?

[Heath]

I don't get those emails.

[Jamie]

You think I have this notification set.

[Heath]

Up for all 26.

[Adam]

I get them. All right. This from Greg. Week 12 of last year, I traded Josh Allen to the number one team in the league for Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Waddle. Josh Allen was on a buy in week 12 and my team would have been eliminated from playoff contention with a loss. So it was a must win for me. The manager of the number two team in the league expressed his displeasure with the trade. Since I had a very small chance of making the playoffs, he believed that I should not be making a trade that improves the number one team. Ultimately, the number one team beat the number two team in the playoffs and Josh Allen was the difference maker. The manager of the number two team is still bitter about this loss and blames me for losing the championship. After an 02 start to the 2025 season, he has declared that he will trade his best players to my competitors if his team is unlikely to make the playoffs. Was it poor etiquette for me to trade Allen from a Homes and Waddle? Was the manager of the number two team robbed of a championship or should he move on and focus on improving his winless team?

[Heath]

He should move on and focus on improving his win this team. It's not like the commissioner sought out for to collude here. He thought it was a good trade at the time to get Mahomes and Waddle. He needed Waddle probably at that point or he needed a receiver at that point. So I don't like this. I. I mean, look, I get being bitter about things in fantasy. Trust me, we all are. And we all have those moments and there's nothing wrong with that. But this is not a battle to pick. Like this is not where I would consider a good time to be bitter about something.

[Adam]

No, it's fine. Everything that happened in week 12 is fine. You know you need to win. If you're not eliminated, if you are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, you should not make trades. If you're not mathematically eliminated, do what you want.

[Jamie]

Agree?

[Adam]

All right. This is from no Name Goes. The names have been changed to protect the innocent or not so innocent. Lol. I have been been in a league with Steve, we will say for at least three years and he has done this to me at least two times in different years. We'll make a trade, someone that he traded to me has a great week and then he will ask the league to veto the trade to get his players back and then eventually it gets vetoed. I know I no longer trade with Steve, but someone else has this year. The trade was for let's say with Eric or I guess I should say let's say. Ah crap it was with Eric to receive Lad McConkey, Devonte Smith and Steve would receive AJ Brown and Stefan Diggs. Okay, so Eric gets or gets McConkey and Devonte Smith and Steve gets A.J. brown and Stefan Diggs. It didn't take long for Steve to say that he made a mistake and asked everyone to veto his trade because he has too many leagues. Steve said I'm driving and I'm in too many leagues this year. I thought I was getting Smith and McConkey. If you all don't mind, veto that please. Honest mistake. I got AJ Brown and Diggs in a league and I thought that's who I was trading and not getting when I accepted lol. Then later he said I'm in 5 leagues and I'm a truck driver. I was driving when I got the trade sent to me and honestly I thought I was getting ladies. I've been trying to trade away A.J. brown in the only league I have him. It was an honest mistake. I noticed right after I hit accept it wasn't no buyer's remorse. Well the trade got vetoed. I don't know whether to believe him or not due to the fact that he has done this to me personally two years in a row in the past and the team is going to turn it into Yahoo if it doesn't get fixed. I don't know what that means. There's money on the line. I have a good team and I have A chance to win it all. There are quite a few people in this league that know each other and was someone that came in to fill a spot. As far as as no one knows him, I don't know what to do. I know the commissioner, and he's taking Steve's side. I messaged him and told him what Steve has done to me in the past, and this isn't the first time Steve has done this. Maybe I'm just venting, but I wanted your opinion on the matter.

[Heath]

I need to start with a couple things. First of all, great adjustment there, Adam, to get your Erics in on time. It was a rocky start, but you started to really hit your stride. Secondly, just great, just great to know that a truck draw. Our truck drivers of America are just checking their phones, looking at trades. Like, I'm always scared when I see a truck on the road. I'm always like, don't you know what I mean? Like, when I'm in the lane next to a truck, I never feel comfortable. I hope I'm not alone. And I also, like, I'm always worried. Like, sometimes they have those, like, long blinkers on, and I don't know if they're trying to make this the merge into another lane. I'm like, dude, make your decision. And, like, I don't. Like, I don't trust that he sees me in that right in that lane next to him, and if he decides to creep over, I'm screwed. Like, there's nowhere to go. So please don't look at your phone. Driving a truck and create trades and accept trades. This is where I want to start this. But obviously the big issue here is that we want to trust this guy, that he made a mistake. But the reality is this happened over and over again. And so I think that I would not give him the benefit of the doubt.

[Adam]

First of all, if a truck driver has his left blinker light on, he is trying to get into the left lane.

[Heath]

That is no sitting there. I think it's like a light that blinks. I'm not sold that that's their left blinker. I'm talking about in the back right of a truck or the back left of a truck.

[Adam]

Yeah, that's a blinker. That's when they're trying to get to.

[Heath]

The other little blinking light and they don't. Sometimes they sit in that other lane for another, like, four or five miles.

[Jamie]

All right. We love truck drivers. Thank you for listening to our show.

[Heath]

No, I'm not knocking truck drivers at all. I don't I'm not saying bad on truck drivers America. This specific truck driver is checking his phone. I don't know if that's the best.

[Adam]

Nobody. Car driver, truck driver shouldn't be checking your phone while you're.

[Heath]

That's what all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

[Jamie]

I think in the case of. Of this situation, you have to leave it up to the commissioner and hopefully that you. If, if you are presenting enough evidence that Steve has done this in the past, then he can make a fair decision if this should be veto or not. But, I mean, we've all been in situations where we made mistakes because of playing in multiple leagues. It happens. It's unfortunate. You know, you'd like to take him on his word, but I mean, I'm dealing with a situation right now where, you know, somebody made a bad ad drop by mistake, you know, so you hit the wrong button, you know. Yeah, it happens. So I, I hope that it's not. I hope that it is not a mistake. But yeah, let's let. Let the commissioner make the decision.

[Heath]

Listen, I'm telling you, there's a blinking light on the back. It's. They don't always make that. They're not always merging. I've seen them go four or five miles.

[Adam]

Well, four or five, but they're very.

[Jamie]

Yeah, they have to have space to move.

[Adam]

Yeah, they're very cautious the blinker on.

[Jamie]

To make you let. Make you aware that they're getting.

[Heath]

I respect that. But my point being is if I'm gonna take. If I'm still not gonna feel great and comfortable about being around that if they need to wait for space, like, I assume they're good at understanding when the space will come, fine. But I'm in a little thing like, I'm a little scared doing it. I'm just saying.

[Adam]

No, I usually try to pass them same.

[Heath]

I don't want to be anywhere near.

[Adam]

Not when they're blinkers on. Not when they're blinkers on. I just try to, you know, because, you know, I'm not trying to criticize truck drivers. Scary.

[Heath]

I'm seeing it in the comments.

[Adam]

The trucks are huge.

[Heath]

Absolutely torched.

[Adam]

Yeah, no, you should be. All right. All right. Thank you for your fantasy cops questions. I'm gonna take a look at Apple podcast questions here. But first I have to open Apple Podcasts. So what are you guys up to this weekend?

[Jamie]

Let's see. Working all day Sunday.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Jamie]

Saturday would be.

[Adam]

What do you do for work?

[Jamie]

Baseball game, basketball game.

[Heath]

You coach in both practice. Do you coach all of those or just the baseball?

[Jamie]

Going from baseball game for the 7 year old to a baseball practice for the 13 year old to a basketball.

[Heath]

You're coaching both of those or no.

[Jamie]

So I got roped into coaching basketball because went to the first practice and the coach was like, nice guy, you know. Thankfully he volunteered, but he's like, yeah, I don't know anything about basketball. So I was already registered to coach, be an assistant coach for my 7 year old. And I said, hey, I could help out if you need. And sure enough, now coaching the team. So two baseball things on Saturday and one basketball game on Saturday.

[Heath]

I will be at the Rose playing a big match. The Schneiers versus two of our friends.

[Adam]

Golf.

[Heath]

Golf. The Rose. Yeah, it's down in Old Bridge, I think somewhere in South Jersey. Big match though. We've been talking a lot of trash on the text chain, so we'll see what happens.

[Adam]

All right, good luck.

[Heath]

And I'm coming off my pr, so that's usually a bad sign. Usually don't follow up a PR with anything good pr.

[Adam]

Oh, gosh, Jamie, do you know what a PR is?

[Jamie]

Personal record.

[Heath]

Bang. See, it's not that. It's not this crazy thing to Jamie. It's pretty obvious it's a big thing in the golf world.

[Adam]

I'm telling you, Dan is a big abbreviator. That's all I'm saying.

[Heath]

I am. I'll admit that. Yeah, it's not a bad thing. You didn't know what FBI was in tennis? Everyone knows what FBI is.

[Adam]

I only heard two people say it.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Adam]

Okay. So this Apple podcast question comes from Andrew. Full PPR grade, the trade 10 team league. I gave up Pickens and Pitman for Earth's and Odunze. Interesting.

[Heath]

Pickens and Pittman for Ertz and Odunze. I. I think the best player in that trade may ultimately be O'Dunze. So I'm kind of intrigued by this trade. There's some really, really strong numbers that Oduze, at least through the first two weeks, has been a clear cut wide receiver, one in that offensive like in a much bigger role than anyone could have expected. So I'm okay buying it. It's still a little bit of a buy high there, but I'm, I'm okay with it.

[Jamie]

Pickens and Pittman fro Dunes and who?

[Adam]

Ertz.

[Heath]

Ertz. Basically a throw in.

[Jamie]

I mean if you need a tight.

[Adam]

End.

[Heath]

He'Ll be a throw in, by the way.

[Adam]

And we have a start sit question here too. So I need a flex. I need a wide receiver and a flex. Odunze, McLaurin, Tetaro, McMillan, Chuba Hubbard, Panthers. Yeah, well, Chubb, Chubbard for sure, but Odunze vs McMillan is interesting. Where do you go there?

[Jamie]

I might be go. I might. I'd go with Dunes.

[Adam]

Oh, Dunce's funny, man. It's like there's so many wide receivers that got drafted in his range that had so much buzz, and he really didn't, and he's off to a great start. Okay, next question is from CEO Rex Grade. The trade. PPR one quarterback. I give up. Nick Chubb and Debo Sam. Oh, my gosh. You know, this is what bothers me when I. When I bring up a trade and people are like that. Never. That'll never happen in my league. You're an idiot. You play with a bunch of noobs. I see these trades. Nick Chubb and Debo Samuel.

[Heath]

What voice was that?

[Jamie]

Who was that?

[Heath]

Who was the voice supposed to be there? I don't know.

[Adam]

For Brian Thomas Jr. And Daniel Jones. Chubb and Dba. I guess it's not as crazy as I'm making it out to be. Chubb.

[Heath]

That crazy.

[Adam]

Chubb and Samuel for Brian Thomas Jr. And Daniel Jones.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

Obviously the Brian Thomas Jr. Side should win, but right now it's been.

[Adam]

Yeah, I take my voice back. I take the voice back.

[Jamie]

I'll give you. I just. I was just thinking of this, though, with the Eric and Steve trade. So I made a trade off for yesterday of Jalen Warren and Tyrone Tracy. I'm sorry, Juwan Johnson and Tyrone Tracy to the Mark Andrews manager that also has Cam Scatterable for Jalen Warren and Ramandre Stevenson. So they have no tight end right now and some running backs sitting on their bench. They said, I'm going to counter that and send me a counteroffer. The counter offer was Jalen Warren for Tyrone Tracy. This is a friend of mine. I read it. I'm like, this. This doesn't seem right. So I texted him and I said, are you sure this is the trade you want? He goes, oh, no, I hit the wrong button. I meant Juwan Johnson or Jalen. Ah, so it does happen.

[Heath]

Yeah, it definitely does happen. I. I. For the earlier case we had, I want to give the person the benefit doubt. But. But the listener told us was that it's happened multiple times.

[Jamie]

I agree, but. But that's what I'm saying. Like, it.

[Heath]

You know, it does happen.

[Jamie]

Especially like. Like we're. We're so in Tune with these things. You're gonna look at a trade. You're probably gonna sit, think, maybe a minute, maybe 10 minutes, maybe 20 minutes, maybe a day. You know, you never know how long you're going to analyze and overanalyze it, because that's what we do. We spend too much time ingrained in this. For the casual fan that could be driving, could be at a red light. Let's just be safe and say that they're a red light. They click on their app and they hit accept. Encounter or reject. Encounter or accept by mistake. Oh, man, I didn't mean to do that. Well, or they, they hit. They hit.

[Heath]

Except we should have waited till you parked.

[Jamie]

They hit accept. They parked their car. They're going in the grocery store. There is, you know, nice, Nice of a guy as Dan is, and they're putting the cart back in the, in the store. And you hit, you hit accept by mistake. Because as, as Life With Five says, fat fingering, right? You hit except by mistake. And you don't think about it. You don't look at it, because you don't care. It's just something you're doing for fun. And then all of a sudden, you go back and you're like, oh, bleep. I didn't mean to accept that. I meant to reject it. I hit the wrong button.

[Heath]

Like, yeah, I, I agree with you. I want to give the benefit of the doubt in general and fantasy when these things happen, and I do, as a commissioner, I just. We need to make sure it's not a repeat offender. Was my only point there. And one final thing on that, something you just brought up. Did anyone. Did either of you guys see.

[Adam]

Oh, God, the trade? Which I. Would you rather have the Brian Thomas Jr. Side?

[Heath]

Oh, no, I wouldn't. I'm not in on Thomas Jr. I don't, I don't believe in it.

[Jamie]

But you're not Chubb and Debo.

[Heath]

You're right. I'm in on Debo for sure. Like, I honestly think he's the best player in that trade.

[Adam]

Oh, come on. You're taking Debo over Brian Thomas Jr. Rest of season.

[Heath]

I know it's crazy. I know it's crazy.

[Adam]

If you want to go that route, I, I, I would have to take Brian Thomas Jr. Over Debo Samuel.

[Heath]

I know I shouldn't. Okay, I guess I will take Brian Thomas Jr. I don't feel confident at all in that. Did you guys see, by any chance the video of my new hero? He's a guy working at. I think it was a Walmart and a lady who was shopping, she left her cart. And so he just leaves it there like a jerk. And so he takes the cart and puts it behind her car. Gets out of the car, starts yelling at him and what are you doing? What are you doing? He's like, go take the car back to the, to the Star. Like, why won't you take the car back? She gives him all trouble. I don't have time for this. Like, you know by now, like, if she didn't argue with the guy, she would have already returned and got back to her car. So then she gets back and starts yelling and she moves the thing, she moves it out of the way. He gets, she gets back in her car. He then takes it, puts it back behind the car, but puts it over, like topples it over too.

[Jamie]

So it's just.

[Heath]

I love this guy. If you're out there and you're listening, you're my hero.

[Adam]

Yeah, we never, we never talked about the Phillies fan fighting for the baseball. I don't know.

[Heath]

I'm big on let the kids have the ball.

[Adam]

Of course. But you know, the thing is, like, he didn't.

[Jamie]

Please don't defend her. Please don't defend her.

[Heath]

Don't defend.

[Adam]

No, no, he. No, I'm not at all, actually. But he didn't take it from her at all. I don't know why she was acting like she had it. It was totally up for grabs. It was fair game. Because I, I think if he. Okay, how about this? It was up for grabs. If he didn't have a kid, what side would you be on? Like that ball's up for grabs, lady versus like, you know, normal 40 something year old guy fighting for the ball. Is it fair game or does he have to defer to the lady there?

[Jamie]

I, I would think in the case of a ball bouncing around the seats, whoever grabs it first, grabs it first. It's just unfortunate. Now he could be a gentleman and give it to her if he wanted to.

[Heath]

Yeah, but, but the kid has to come first.

[Jamie]

Let me ask you this question. What if he, you know, he, he went with his buddies and his kid was at home. He wanted to bring home his kid, right?

[Heath]

That's a question. Yeah, yeah.

[Adam]

No, I honestly, I, I think there are no rules. No matter what, kids come first. But that ball is anyone's, you know, up for grabs.

[Jamie]

But now if, if they both grabbed at the same time and he rips it out of her hand.

[Adam]

Yeah, that'd be bad. That'd be bad.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah. Like I saw the reverse video of this. A guy tracked down a ball. There was a young girl trying to get it. He beat her to the ball and then he just does the awesome thing and turns around and hands it right to her. And she was happy as well in that moment. So I think no matter what, as long as you're giving, you're deferring to the kids. That's what it's really for.

[Jamie]

All right, that's of course a truck driver then.

[Heath]

No, let's not anything against drug. I love drug drivers. I just said this one guy shouldn't be on his phone driving a truck.

[Adam]

Let. No one should be on the phone when they're.

[Heath]

Yeah. On the phone in the car. Like that's all I was saying.

[Adam]

There was a question in here that I wanted to get to. That guy is Dan's here. Yeah.

[Heath]

That guy's my hero because he stood up to these people who just. They're self selfish people leaving their cards there.

[Adam]

Okay, here's the question. We're Gonna start our YouTube questions now from Doug. Do you think your collective love affair with rookie running backs this off season will lead many of your followers to an O and three start?

[Jamie]

Yes. It's our fault that they are as bad as they are. Listen, it's. If you want to go that route, I'm sure there are a lot of players, you know, is it our fault that, you know, Nico Collins and Brian Thomas Jr. And Drake London. I mean there's a lot of players that are struggling right now. So it was, it was not the greatest situation of, you know, how it started. I think for the, the two first round picks, you know, there was reasons to buy into them. I know for me I was, I was aggressive with Trayvon Henderson, RJ Harvey. So I, I have a little regret about Harvey mostly. Not, not so much Henderson yet. But in the case of Gentian and, and Hampton, like you, you saw what could potentially happen and just hasn't happened yet. It still very much could.

[Adam]

I don't feel, I don't feel bad about Genti and Hampton. I think that it made sense to draft them where they were being drafted. I do feel bad about the other guys and I, I've seen a lot of stuff on, on Twitter of fantasy analysts almost mocking fantasy football players for being upset about these slow starts for rookies. And I think that anyone who's doing that is, is really being pretty dismissive and not taking into account like this is important for people. I do feel bad that my advice because I said I Said on the running back preview, like if you don't walk away of your draft with two rookie running backs, you're making a mistake. I said something like that and you know, it might end up being good advice. I hope it does.

[Jamie]

I think I should have talked in Judkins.

[Adam]

Yeah, but still like you're not winning your league yet. You could still be 0 and 2. Although you know, you've spent obviously earlier capital on other running backs.

[Jamie]

Whatever.

[Adam]

I think it could still work out for these rookie running backs. We have a great rookie running back class. I think it could still work out for sure. But I do feel bad for the people who are 02 and I'm one of them in several leagues. This is killing my fantasy teams. Like I'm with you and I should have done a better job as a host of pointing out the slow starts that rookie running backs often get.

[Jamie]

No, you did. Don't, don't do that. You did.

[Heath]

I don't think I was just high on the players. It looked like they were gonna have you very much.

[Jamie]

You very much brought up second round running backs and how slow it's been and the, the case by case situation of we got lucky with Marlon Mack getting hurt and what that meant for Jonathan Taylor and some of these other guys and Gibbs, Melvin Gordon and stuff like that. Like there's, there's numerous examples you, you gave. So I wouldn't, I wouldn't worry about that at all. Again, I think it's. You hope that you're not the first and foremost hope that you're not owing to. Because of that. Because you, you went Gentian Hampton or Gentian Henderson or Hampton, you know, like those are the first two running back as you have and, and you're stuck right now. So hopefully that's the case that you're not open to. But in, in the situation of like three weeks from now, they may be the best running backs in their team by a lot.

[Adam]

Yeah, yeah. It's. It's only week two. This could be a big week. You know, things could change future.

[Heath]

Like also maybe be considerate of how many you're drafting and what capital using to draft them and take it case by case. Like I felt the whole off season like we were like the con. We were a little bit too high on Henderson. I have Henderson in no leagues and I just think not enough was made. Too much was made of how he looked in preseason. Not enough was made of McDaniels and his history as a play caller. Like consider these types of things moving forward But I was wrong on all the other ones as well. Like I would have taken Harvey at the right spot. I only have him one league, but I took him in that one league and Hampton one league as well. But I wanted him and didn't get him. Genty, I always felt like was a little drafted a little too high. There was no. I was taking him over some of the receivers in that range.

[Jamie]

I have, I have two that I regret which was taking not. Not advice leagues myself.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

One was it's a keeper league, so take that into account. But I took Genti over McCaffrey with the thought of having Genti long term. And this may be McCaffrey's last year.

[Heath]

I think that's fine. Yeah.

[Jamie]

And then our IDP league where I went sort of a 0 RB route. And Harvey's my first running back.

[Heath]

Yep, that's the Harvey. The biggest miss has been Harvey, I think so far, to be honest. Because a lot of people felt like in the range they were drafting him. All right. I'm least going to get RB2 out of that. But look these rookies, it could be a second half. Like, don't give up on them. We've had a lot of questions. They like, should I add hard. I saw Harvey available in a couple leagues. If he's available in a league, there's no better guy to have on your bench.

[Adam]

All right, let's fire through some questions here. And Dan has to jump off in a second. Would you trade Sutton and Ken Walker for Jonathan Taylor?

[Jamie]

In a heartbeat.

[Heath]

I guess. Yeah. Especially if you have wide receiver depth.

[Adam]

Start to lab. McConkey, James Connor, J.K. dobbins, Wandale Robinson.

[Heath]

Lad and Connor for me I would too flex D.J.

[Adam]

Moore, Jalen Warren or Ricky Piersoll. PPR.

[Heath]

Might be Purdy back there.

[Jamie]

I would go with Warren. Patriots run defense has not been great. I take that back. Their running fuck's been good but they're. They're. They're gonna get more and more involved.

[Heath]

Sounds like by Warren's safest.

[Adam]

Yeah, it's tough. Would you trade Keenan Allen and Pacheco for AJ Brown?

[Heath]

Yes. Oh yeah.

[Jamie]

100.

[Heath]

Even though I like Keenan rest of the year. Pacheco to me is just potentially done. Daniel Jones or Mariota this week even in matchup? Jones I think this. Yeah. Jones still.

[Adam]

Would you trade Jacori Crosby Merit for George Pickens?

[Heath]

Yes.

[Jamie]

Yes.

[Adam]

Then he only has Genti, Dobbins, Tracy and Judkins. Is that good enough depth?

[Heath]

It's fine for me. Judkins I think is going to be a good player us a year. All right.

[Jamie]

I think you can get away with that. Yes.

[Adam]

Devonte Smith or Keenan Allen? Omarion Hampton or Quinshon Judkins.

[Jamie]

I'd go Keenan Allen and Hampton.

[Heath]

I'll go Keenan Judkins, by the way. All right, that's all for me, guys. Have a great weekend. Adam, enjoy your concert.

[Adam]

Thank you. Rock on. Say about and Dallas Goddard did practice today, so I don't think it was in full. Yeah, he was. He was, I think limited, but not sure.

[Heath]

One more quick thing. I do love all truck drivers of America. Thank you.

[Adam]

Oh, man. Let's see. Sit one in half. Ppr Swift, Chuba Hubbard, Jalen Warren or Ashton Genty Swift. You're starting Warren over Swift?

[Jamie]

Yes.

[Adam]

Okay. This is Tootin Basil Tutin is available but my only drop options are Judy Harvey or Piersol.

[Jamie]

I would probably drop Judy Troy Franklin.

[Adam]

Or Travion Henderson or Quinchon Judkins for flex and full PPR right there.

[Jamie]

Hot hand, go with Franklin.

[Adam]

Start two. I'll just. I think I'll end on this. Henderson, Sutton, Franklin, Tyler, Warren.

[Jamie]

Sutton and Warren.

[Adam]

Okay, thank you very much, Jamie. We'll talk to you on Sunday.

[Jamie]

Sir, yes, sir. Great concert.

[Adam]

Thank you. Josh, thank you for producing today and all of you, thanks for watching and listening. Have a wonderful weekend. Let's get a win in week three. We'll talk to you Sunday morning, 11:00am Eastern.

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[Jamie]

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