Mailbag and Fantasy Cops! (11/22 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Fantasy Football Today – Mailbag and Fantasy Cops! (11/22/25)

Hosts: Adam Aizer & Jamie Eisenberg
Date: November 22, 2025

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Overview

This episode is the quintessential “mailbag” and “Fantasy Cops” edition, where Adam and Jamie tackle Week 12 start/sit dilemmas, trade questions, and the thorny rules and etiquette issues that often spark league drama. Listeners submit lineup decisions, roster moves, trades for grading, and league disputes via email, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and live YouTube comments. The hosts balance practical advice with good-natured humor and banter, especially when discussing their own fantasy misadventures and infamous dad jokes.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Week 12 Start/Sit Dilemmas

Timestamps: 02:50–13:00

• Defensive Streamers: The Browns DST is “top tier” this week—ranked just behind the Seahawks for Jamie, especially due to the matchup and Myles Garrett’s disruptive potential. (03:00)
• RB/WR Calls:
  • Charbonnet vs. Burden: Otten preferred as a pickup over Burden (20:34)
  • Ken Walker vs. Alec Pierce: Walker has the edge in most formats (04:16)
  • Judkins vs. Jalen Warren vs. Ken Walker: Warren if healthy, Walker otherwise (04:57)
  • Pearsall vs. Addison (PPR): Pearsall favored (03:46)
  • Flacco, Taylor, Rudolph: Jamie chooses Flacco and Mason Rudolph as best QB pickups (05:15)
• QB Analysis: Purdy is preferred over Hurts this week due to matchup/trends (05:35)

“The only DST I have ranked ahead of the Browns this week would be the Seahawks.”
– Jamie, 03:16

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2. League Strategy & Trade Policy Debates

Timestamps: 10:56–16:34

• Should eliminated teams make trades? Both say NO—if you’re mathematically eliminated, trading is unfair and should be disallowed. Waiver pickups, however, are fine for non-playoff teams since they help maintain league competitiveness week-to-week.
• Competing until the end: Jamie encourages all managers to try for wins each week—for pride, bets, or last-place penalties. However, he and Adam staunchly agree: eliminated teams should not inject imbalance with post-playoff trades.

“If you’re eliminated from the playoffs, you cannot make trades. That’s your own fault, you know?”
– Adam, 12:44

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3. Stat Deep Dives & Analytics

Timestamps: 21:50–28:39

• Thursday Night QB Splits: Adam gathered data on QB performance in Thursday games, concluding there’s no significant dip: “Way more than half (of QBs) have been good. Five out of 22 were single-digit, which is about average.”
• Garbage Time’s Role in Projections: Jamie factors in likely garbage time for teams with bad defenses/trailing scripts but notes it’s hard to predict; Adam is more cautious, warning players can get pulled once games are out of hand.

“Sometimes, in garbage time, players get pulled...so it’s not a huge factor here.”
– Adam, 16:05

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4. Grading Listener Trades & Waivers

Timestamps: Throughout

• Listeners submit numerous trade proposals for Adam & Jamie to “grade.”
  • Olave for Kittle, Mahomes for Achan (Superflex): Discuss proper trade value depending on playoff status (13:58)
  • Lamb + Q. Johnston for Hn: “If you need the running back, then yes.” – Jamie (24:30)
  • Dobbs + Q. Johnston for Alec Pierce + Basil Tootin: “At this point, I’d rather have the upside of Pierce and Tootin.” – Jamie (31:50)
  • Trader's Dilemma: If trading a star RB for future draft value as a bad team is fair in keeper leagues (39:07)
• Start/Sit Lightning Rounds: Many, but highlights include:
  • Start Ramondre Stevenson or Basil Tootin? “Tootin has more upside as a player, Stevenson for matchup.” (23:19)

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5. Fantasy Cops: League Rules, Collusion & Ethics

Timestamps: 37:49–46:02

• Vetoes & Collusion: Adam implores leagues not to veto trades just because “the good team is getting better,” reminding listeners this isn’t how real sports work. Vetoes are for true foul play/collusion only.
• Unwritten Rules: Jamie and Adam debate whether it’s okay to make “verbal” trades and back out (“You can... but it’s not cool” – Adam).
• Keeper Leagues: Jamie describes his league’s 3-person committee for trade review; suggests restricting keepers to drafted players to avoid tanking trades (40:21).
• Auctioning players to force market value: If someone publicly threatens to dump a player to a contending team unless a better offer is made, it’s “dirty” but legal. (44:40)

“If I see another freaking email about your league vetoing a trade because they didn’t want the good team to get better, I’m going to visit your draft next year and…give you really bad food."
– Adam, 36:13

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6. Quick Hitting Advice & Notable Advice Nuggets

Timestamps: Throughout

• Browns DST is this week’s top defensive play outside Seahawks (03:16)
• Charbonnet vs. Burden/Otten: Otten preferred as streamer (20:19)
• Test Johnson or Sean Tucker in Half PPR: Mooney and Downs in some scenarios (21:18)
• Chris Godwin’s status: Playable, but more impact to teammates, especially Trey Benson (19:30)
• Cutthroat waiver wire & last place penalties: Keep up the effort, but with proper boundaries—no trades for dead teams.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Thursday Night QB woes:

  "No, I don’t think Thursday night’s been unusual at all. Last night was bad, but it’s been normal.”
  – Adam, 28:39

• On lopsided or collusion trades:

  "Imagine if the NFL vetoed Jalen Phillips to the Eagles because they didn’t want the Super Bowl champion to get better…That can’t happen!”
  – Adam, 36:31

• Dad jokes and podcast banter:

  “My wife asked me to stop singing Wonderwall by Oasis. I said maybe.”
  – Listener Submission, 23:49

• Adam’s sitcom hot take:

  "The Big Bang Theory is incredible. Sheldon Cooper…he’s not on Mount Rushmore, he’s the gift shop at Mount Rushmore.”
  – Adam, 33:31

• Fantasy Cops Ethics:

  "You can threaten to do whatever you want until you actually do it."
  – Jamie, 44:40

• On league commish powers:

  “Just pay your dues, you big baby”.
  – Adam advising a listener with a league fee dispute, 52:57

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Entertaining Sidetracks & Callbacks

• Teasing absent co-host Dan: Multiple running jokes about Dan’s whereabouts—"churning butter,” “dad jokes seminar,” "tour of the nose strip factory.” (Throughout the first 10 minutes)
• Movie night tangent: Adam and Jamie debate the greatness of A Bronx Tale (34:40)
• Fantasy Cops skits: Musical cues, cop references, and police movie character assignments to the FFT crew.

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Time | |-------------------------------------|------------| | Browns/Packers DST debate | 02:59 | | Week 12 Mailbag (start/sit Q’s) | 03:46–13:00| | Eliminated teams/trade policy |10:56–16:34 | | Garbage time impact | 14:46–16:05| | Thursday Night QB stats | 21:50–28:39| | Trade grading/sample deals | 13:49–31:58| | Keeper league trade ethics |39:07–41:04 | | Fantasy Cops: veto & collusion |36:13–46:02 | | Closing Q&A/Spotify comments |54:08–68:20 |

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Takeaways & Listener Tips

• Set clear league rules for playoff eligibility and trading, especially for eliminated teams.
• Don’t veto trades just because they help the “strongest team”—vetoes are only for actual collusion.
• Thursday night games aren’t QB death sentences—pick your spots, look at actual matchup data.
• Keep playing competitively, even if out of contention—but respect boundaries on trades.
• Don’t overrate garbage time; focus on core offensive roles and backups.
• Dad jokes and sitcom debates bring levity—don’t forget to have fun!

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Final Call to Action

• Visit the64.com and vote for Fantasy Football Today in the Podcast Bracket!
• Leave your start/sit or trade questions via Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or email.
• Tune in Sunday 11am–1pm ET for live lineup help before kickoff.

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Summary prepared for fantasy managers seeking both strategic insight and a dose of FFT’s signature camaraderie.

Transcript

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[B]

Where do we think Dan is now?

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I know where he is.

[B]

So do I. But I mean, we have to make fun.

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Oh, okay. Please submit your best answers. Where is Dan? Not on today's show. Two man show. Apple podcasts. Leave us a five star review and a question. Please tell people why you like our show. It helps our show grow. Spotify, Same thing. Leave a question there. We'll read Some of those comments. YouTube. We have your comments. If you're on YouTube, please hit the like button. If you're watching On Demand, leave a starter sit question in the chat and I'll respond to a good number of them. I did last week, too, so.

[B]

All right.

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[B]

Oh, I know where Dan is.

[A]

Oh. Care to share with the class?

[B]

I'll save it for the end.

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Okay. And I want nothing but legendary questions in the chat, like this 1. Patriots DST or Brown's DST?

[B]

Browns DST for me, Geno Smith is going to struggle with that offensive line in front of him and Miles Garrett coming after him. So I think the Browns DSD should be fantastic.

[A]

Okay, how about Brown's DST or Packers dst?

[B]

Browns dst. I think the only TST I have ranked ahead of the Browns this week would be the Seahawks.

[A]

Okay. We do have some news, by the way, on Jackson Dart. We'll get you that. Dan is churning butter for his coffee page. What is all these DST questions? Patriots or Jaguars?

[B]

This is close one. If it's Joe Flacco, I would go with the Patriots. If it's Joe Burrow, I'd go with the Jaguars.

[A]

Piersol or Addison ppr.

[B]

I go Pearsall.

[A]

Dan is at a dad jokes seminar. Yes. He could use. He could definitely use that. How about Algier?

[B]

I don't find it funny. I don't know what's funny.

[A]

Yeah, I don't. Was that supposed to be funny? Am I supposed to laugh at that? Algier, Fanon or Burden?

[B]

I would go Fanon and ppr. I'd go algae or none or half.

[A]

Ken Walker or Alec Pierce? Half or full ppr?

[B]

Close at go Walker.

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Dan is inventing a new. Another new sandwich which has existed for 100 years.

[B]

I got to tell you, I invented ham and cheese.

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Yes. Yeah. I go in, I go to the restaurant, I say, give me a ham sandwich. You know what? Throw some cheese on there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. That's what me, Flacco or Bryce Young?

[B]

Go Flacco. Yeah.

[A]

And burrow. He also has burrow. So start Burrow.

[B]

Yeah. Bengals quarterback over.

[A]

I did see your avatar with your. With my shoulders all up there. A good job, Judkins. Jalen Warren or Ken Walker? Ppr.

[B]

Warren if he's good to go. Walker if he's not. Pick two of these couple news items. Daniel Jones is warming up. Looks like he's fine. And Dylan Gabriel returned to practice today, but obviously not starting Pick two.

[A]

Of these quarterbacks. Flacco, Taylor, Rudolph.

[B]

I would go with Flacco and Taylor over Mason.

[A]

You go with Tirad Taylor over Mason.

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Rudolph.

[A]

Well, okay. Hertz or Purdy?

[B]

No, I'm sorry. I. I read that for some reason my head is Bryce Young. I would go with Rudolph over Tara Taylor.

[A]

Okay, that's what I thought. So Flacco and Rudolph or Burrow and Roger. What's that?

[B]

Purdy over Hurts.

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Purdy over Hertz.

[B]

Vic Orion.

[A]

Vic Orion traded a Chan, Basil, Tutin and Bowers for Bijan, Javante and Pitts.

[B]

Could be Jameson.

[A]

Oh, could be Jameson.

[B]

I'd rather have a Chan Tooton than Bowers.

[A]

Jordan Love or Caleb Williams this week?

[B]

Caleb Williams.

[A]

Dan is at the store looking for more refrigerator magnets. Would you trade Rasheed Rice for Jamar Chase?

[B]

I would.

[A]

Christian Watson or Kshaan Booty?

[B]

Booty.

[A]

What do you think about this idea getting on to call me?

[B]

Text him.

[A]

Yeah, see, I'll. I'll let him come. He's going to curse, though, so. All right, while you text him, let's go through some news items here. More of your YouTube comments a little bit later. Also Sunday. Join us 11am to 1pm Eastern. It's really a lot of fun and we answer a ton.

[B]

I'm calling you on speaker.

[A]

Oh, this is a horrible idea. No. Horrible idea. I have to mute you. I cannot allow this to happen. Okay. Yeah, we have a lot of Fun on Sunday. 11 to 1pm 11am to 1pm Eastern. Right before kickoff. We answer your questions, we go through the weather. I don't think that's going to be a big issue this week. We go through any news and notes, any updates, and there will be a lot of it this week. So join us there. A lot of the advice we give you even today will be outdated by the time we get to Sunday. So you got to stay up to date. Jamie, are you done with your. No, Jamie's still on the phone. Okay, news and notes. Jackson Dart is out. I am so bummed about that man cave on Thibodeau and Paulson. Adibo. An edge and a corner are also out for the Giants. They are at Detroit this week. They are going to get smashed. Josh Jacobs was limited. We talked about that game on Friday and really the only. Only must start, I guess. I mean, Jefferson, you're going to start, but Jacobs would be the best start if he plays. Jamie, you good? You good?

[B]

Don't curse. Yeah.

[A]

Anyway, Josh Jacobs, limited, it's fine. And Sam Laporta's limited today. Yeah, he was. So they're hoping I, I getting a good sense there. There's definitely some optimism about Josh Jacobs this week and.

[B]

Yeah, there is. You know, I, they play Thursday so you know, you might want to say they could use some caution there because the back to back division games and you know, looking up at the Lions at the right, they're behind lines and standings.

[A]

Oh, the Packers. Let's see.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Sorry. They are unbelievably both teams are behind Chicago.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

7 and 3, Green Bay 6 and 3, Detroit 6 and 4.

[B]

So do they play it safe and keep him out one more week? Keep him out a week to make sure he's 100 for Detroit. Just don't, don't do anything with Emmanuel Wilson.

[A]

I can't believe that. Detroit, who's in the NFC playoffs right now. So you've got Philadelphia Eagles are in.

[B]

The east, Philadelphia Rams in the West.

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Bears and Bucks. Wild card. Wild card is Green is Seattle, Green Bay, San Francisco.

[B]

Wow.

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No Detroit right now.

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Wow. Yeah.

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No Detroit, no Kansas City. If the playoffs started today.

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Oh, we have a winner of who? Where Dan is.

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Oh, what do we got?

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Husky Huskies. Got it right.

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Dan is getting a tour of the nose trip factory.

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He is. He is. He's getting fitted for the perfect nose trip.

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Dan, he, he really loves going to factories on his day off, let me tell you.

[B]

Smart.

[A]

So I might as well read this dad joke here that we have. Let's see. This is from Kyle. What do you call a sick Dan who nails his preseason flag plant player. No strip Damas.

[B]

That's good. That's very good.

[A]

It is good. But could it be no strip Danis, just no strip Davis?

[B]

Yeah. Why do you azer stat a joke.

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Can we, can we clip that? I don't go in a second.

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I didn't say I'm joking. Yeah, fantasy football. CBSI.com Put any. Yeah, doesn't matter what's in the subject line. Put fantasy cops in the subject line.

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And Miles Garrett mispracticed, say with an illness.

[A]

Oh, okay. If it's fantasy cops, put that in the subject line. This is a question. I don't have a name on this one. I, I've heard the show talk about how teams that cannot make the playoffs should not be allowed to make trades or, or contested waiver wire pickups. No, we don't. We say yes. You can't do that with trades. You absolutely, if you're not going to make the playoffs, can make waiver wire pickups. As a manager of a losing team, I would like to challenge this position. What about bragging rights each week? What about still wanting to beat your friends? Shouldn't I still be allowed to take every step to try to win as many weeks as possible? What is wrong with me today?

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Yes, you should absolutely continue to be competitive. I just wrote the intro to my DFS story that runs on Sportsline every Friday and I said that you may be out of it in your redraft league. You know, this is the point of the season where playoffs, you had a playoff contention, but you should still be setting a lineup to be respectful and obviously continue to have fun. And that's what it's about. You should clearly try and be competitive. There are bragging rights. Adam, for example, has a week 12 bet that you made at the beginning of the season. I'm sure there's plenty of fantasy bets that have been going on throughout the course of the season in many leagues. There are leagues that obviously have penalties for finishing last. So it's not a black and white. You don't make waiver moves or you don't make trades. Every league is different. But clearly you should try and be competitive and still win every week if you possibly can.

[A]

But you can't do it with trades.

[B]

Trades. I, I would say the only thing is if, if that's kind of been your league history and there's a way still to monitor them.

[A]

No, but if you're eliminated, I, I, I maintain if you're eliminated from the playoffs, you cannot make trades. That's your own fault, you know?

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Yeah, I mean, I'm going to lean that way. But I think again, if your league is, you know, hey, we play to the end and I want every team to be competitive and it's not somebody giving up. Emmanuel Wilson for Jonathan Taylor, like, yeah.

[A]

I'm not going to tell you what to do with your league. I'm going to recommend that you make a rule that says you cannot make trades if you're eliminated from the playoffs. Someone in the chat says they sent me a trade offer in the leftovers league. So I have not accepted any trades in the leftovers league because I actually don't think I'm necessarily eliminated. But Heath and I, we're in last place. Jamie and I've never finished in my life. I've never finished in last place. We're tied three and eight and we're going to lose this week. I mean, we are so injured. It is unbelievable. But Olave for Kittle, that's an interesting trade. Mahomes for Achan. This is a superflex league. These are interesting trades, but you're out of it. No, I don't think we're out of it right now. We're three and eight and the last playoff spot is six and is six and five and it's a, it's a 10 team league, so it goes through week 15.

[B]

But top four make it or top six?

[A]

Top four. So like we'll probably have a 1% chance of making it.

[B]

Yeah, don't do it.

[A]

Don't do it. I'm allowed to do it.

[B]

You just said if you're out of playoff contention.

[A]

I'm not out of playoff contention.

[B]

You're out of playoff contention. This is. You're stretching it.

[A]

No, it's gotta. I, I'm very consistent about this. It's got to be mathematically eliminated.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I don't think we are.

[B]

Joe Burrow is officially questionable for Sunday.

[A]

All right, so next email is from Mike in Somerville. Dear Blake, Dylan and Dante.

[B]

Blake, Dylan and Dante DiVincenzos.

[A]

Blake, these are NFL quarterbacks from a specific university.

[B]

Blake, Dylan and Dante. I don't know.

[A]

Central Florida.

[B]

Oh, okay. Bortles, Culpepper.

[A]

Who's Dylan? Yeah, who's Dylan?

[B]

Dylan.

[A]

Dylan, your son of. All right, we don't talk enough about garbage time. It's more prevalent in blowout wins or losses. But how much do you take into account when you make your projections? How much do you factor in garbage time.

[B]

For a team to be playing in garbage time?

[A]

Yeah, I guess so.

[B]

Okay, so the Giants this week, for example, right? Where they're. Well, I mean, yeah, you think of.

[A]

Another example to ten and a half point underdogs.

[B]

Yeah, the jets this week. Fine. I was thinking the team actually could put up points in garbage time. So. Yes, absolutely. Factor in, you know, when you're looking at certain players in certain situations, especially when the team has been bad. Like we had that stretch, you heard me say. I forget who I was making the joke of. But like Blake Bortles, we had that stretch for the Jaguars that season where Blake Bortles every week in the fourth quarter was, was having these heroic performances. So yeah, I think anytime you have an offensive oriented team with a terrible defense, I mean we saw it with the Bengals at times last year, right. Where they were just getting beaten and then they come back in the second half of games. Not necessarily late in games. But yeah, you definitely have to take it into account to a certain extent.

[A]

Yeah, look, it's pretty hard to predict. Sometimes you think games are going to go a certain way and they don't. So I don't put too much stock into it. Also, sometimes in garbage time, players get pulled, you know, and it's bad. So it's not a huge factor here. But we do in that same vein, we do say, oh, they're going to be trailing, they're going to be throwing this is good game script. We just don't necessarily say garbage time. Okay, we'll be right back with more of your questions and your fantasy cops and all that good stuff after this.

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[A]

Welcome back everybody.

[B]

Fantasy football Todd Bowles says Chris Godwin is trending on playing Sunday versus The Rams.

[A]

Oh, okay. And that's not really a huge surprise, but we said on the show on Friday morning we're not starting him right. How are you feeling about that now?

[B]

I would not start him. I would certainly want to roster him so make sure he's not on your waiver wire. And I definitely think that this is an impact to Trey Benson the most. So I know we've said at times it could be a K.in problem if Godwin is playing. It could be a Abuka problem to an extent if Godwin is playing. I think it's just really trade. Tez Johnson is the one that scares me the most.

[A]

Cool. All right, back to our questions here. Thank you everybody for submitting. This is from Andrew 10 Team PPR. Would you flex Zach Charbonnet or Luther Burden or drop one of them for Kate Otten, Kyle Pitts, Jake Ferguson, Josh Downs or Tez Johnson?

[B]

Sorry, give me names again. I was reading an update.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Charbonnet or Burden or drop one of them for Kate Otten, Kyle Pitts, Jake Ferguson, Josh Downs, Tess Johnson.

[B]

I probably would drop Burden for Otten.

[A]

I'd go with Otten.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, from Sal, half ppr, pick two.

[B]

By the way, does not seem like Trey Benson will be active based on what the Cardinals just did. They made Jamar Johnson. They put him on their active roster for today for this week. Okay, now that could just be DeMarcado. It could be night, but not a good sign, them elevating a running back and not Benson yet.

[A]

Okay, yeah, now DeMarcado is out, so. All right, we'll keep an eye on that again. That's why you got to watch on Sunday morning. This is from Sal. Pick two and half ppr Tess Johnson. Common on guy, Josh Downs, Darnell Mooney, Sean Tucker.

[B]

Pick two.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

F PPR Tucker and Mooney, Tez Downs.

[A]

Menangai Mooney, you're going Mooney. Yeah, Mooney from njt. I give up Judkins and Devonte Smith. I get Saquon Barkley and Tez Johnson.

[B]

So it's Smith and Judgins for Barkley. I think that's a win.

[A]

Okay, this is a qu. This is a good question from Scott. After watching Thursday night's games or game.

[B]

Bucky Irving ruled out.

[A]

Yes. Saw that. I'm concerned about the fantasy impact the Thursday night game has on the quarterback position. Do you have data showing how quarterbacks that are usually must starts in super flex or one quarterback leagues actually perform versus the rest of the season? So I don't have that, but I did look at every Thursday night game except for week one. Week one's not the same scenario. Right. So weeks two through 12, that is 11 games. That is 22 quarterbacks. I looked at all of their fantasy points in non decimal scoring because that was the easiest way for me to do it. I looked at the box scores on CBSSports.com it has their non decimal 6 point per passing touchdown scoring. And I, I listed all of them. I put them all. You know what? I bet I could do this visually. I'm gonna. You know what I'm gonna do? Gonna email this to myself and then I'm gonna put it up on the screen. I'm gonna throw it over to my other computer. I'm gonna come back to this question and this will be a good visual. I think it'll help. Instead of me just blabbering about it. Okay, so we'll come back.

[B]

Join us. By the way.

[A]

What's that?

[B]

Nando cannot join us.

[A]

He can. He's. He can never join us, this guy. All right, let's go to another question. I'll come back to that Thursday nighter because it's a good one. Chris Kennedy wants to know. Ramandre Stevenson or Basil Tutin?

[B]

There's more upside with Tutin as the player. There's more upside with Stevenson in the matchup. Both are dealing with injuries. I would lean slightly toward Tootin.

[A]

Okay, from Crosby. Would you trade Lamb and Quentin Johnston.

[B]

For Devon Hn Before I answer that before the comment goes away, Liam Joseph Barb has a good dad joke that you could sing oh.

[A]

My dad. Sorry, dad joke. My wife asked me to stop singing Wonderwall by Oasis. I said maybe. That's great. I had a six year old tell me a joke like that. It was something like. It was something like, I thought love was only true in fairy tales Then I saw her face. By the way, here's a question from the chat, by the way, do we think Bucky Irving comes back this year and. Yes, yes, there's been a lot more optimism about that.

[B]

As early as week 13.

[A]

Yeah, it could be next week. Okay. Would you trade Lamb and Quentin Johnston for Devon Hn?

[B]

Lamb and Quentin Johnson for Devon Hn. It's basically land for hn. So I think if you need the running back, then yes. If you have the receiver depth to give up two guys like that, then sure.

[A]

Oh, man. I wonder if there's a way for me to get you to. I need you to talk. All right. I want you to talk for like a good 15 to 30 seconds on this one so I can pull up the Thursday night data question from Nick. I have James Cook and Travis ETN with RJ Harvey and Kamani Vidal on my bench. But Cook has been inconsistent lately. I Mean, he's coming off two great games in a row, but I get it. And he has terrible playoff matchups. While Travis ETN has a growing Tootin problem. That's kind of funny to say out loud. Do I try to move one or more of them to upgrade like ETN for Chase Brown? Do I not rock the boat because I'm dominating in this league? And if it ain't broke, don't fix it. What would you do if your running backs were James Cook, Travis etn, RJ Harvey and Kamani Beidell?

[B]

I mean, clearly you're in a better spot than most because of having a solid number one running back. If James Cook is considered a problem for you, then I don't know what you're gonna expect in return for any of those guys cooking ETN I think are solid number one and number two, while Vidal and Harvey, now that Dobbins out for the rest of the season, can be a potential number two if you're concerned about ETN or same thing with Vidal as long as Amari Hampton is out. But if you are concerned and you want to try and maybe get something better, maybe there's a team that has some running back issues and you could package somebody like Harvey and Vidal for a better third option or at least a more safe third option. You can go that route, but I'm not trading James Cook. I could certainly understand trying to upgrade off Travis etn, but I'm not sure they'd be able to successfully unless it's etn, one of those guys in some sort of package deal. But I think for the most part you're in a pretty good spot and I would not necessarily be be in the mindset of you have to make a trade. You can, but I don't think you have to.

[A]

All right, here we go. Thank you for doing that. I'm going to share this very, very fancy Microsoft Word document with all of you. Okay, here we go. Can you. Is that big enough, Jamie?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Okay, so these are 22 quarterbacks and how many fantasy points they scored in six point per passing touchdown leagues. We had Lamar Herbert, Stafford, Flacco Rogers and Josh Allen once I was expecting.

[B]

Like some really fancy graphic.

[A]

You know, I just emailed this to myself. So that's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 quarterbacks. Six quarterbacks out of 22 scored 28 or more fantasy points. And by the way, every number you see here, you should probably just add one because this is non decimal scoring. So just add one on average. So we had six huge performances. We Had Mac Jones, Jackson dart, Jordan Love, Jaden Daniels score 23 to 25 fantasy points. Okay, now we've got 10 out of 22 or 23 or more fantasy points. We had Jalen Hurts at 20. We had Kyler 22, sorry for Hertz. We had Kyler at 20, Fields at 20. So that, that's pretty.

[B]

More than half have been good.

[A]

Way more than half. And then we had bad game like terrible games from Carson to Bo Nix, Josh Allen last night and Geno Smith. So that is five out of 22 quarterbacks who scored single digit fantasy points. So I said, is that unusual? If you'll see the number at the bottom of the screen, you'll see the number of quarterbacks who have scored single digit fantasy points week by week. We have had five on Thursday night out of 22 quarterbacks. So that's kind of a low amount of quarterbacks to begin with, but it's somewhat normal number, maybe a little bit high. But you can see the last four weeks we've had seven quarterbacks score single digit. And I'm not talking about quarterbacks that came in for five plays. I'm talking about quarterbacks who started.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I. In my opinion, no, I don't think Thursday night's been unusual at all. I think we had last night was bad, but it's been normal.

[B]

Heath and I had this debate last week about Baker Mayfield. Right. Heath was very out on Mayfield against Buffalo and I said he was still a good start because of same argument that I have from this week that he's done well on these tough matchups. He was the number eight quarterback last week because last week was so bad.

[A]

Oh yeah, last week was terrible. Where's the year? Okay, here we go with Dave and Flint. Did I really hear Jamie say, I.

[B]

Can'T wait to see what you can do when you have time to make a graphic.

[A]

Oh yeah, I should probably get rid of this. Think we're good now. Did I really hear Jamie say that he would start Michael Wilson over the Eagles? Guys, personally, I was looking at AJ Brown in my flex spot, but I wondered if Michael Wilson was smarter. I'm also starting Brissette.

[B]

I mean, we have a couple of different things you could point to. Michael Wilson's game last week is the most obvious with 18 targets, 15 catches in a game where Jacoby Brissette threw 57 times. We have five starts for Jacoby Brissette. He's been 44 more. 44 attempts or more in three of those. So that's not a Fluke that he's throwing the ball up. We have a two game stretch for Marvin Harrison as the lead receiver with Jacoby Brissette before he had the appendix and he averaged 11 targets per game, 10 and one 12 in the other. So I think if you're saying there's 10 plus targets coming his way, let's just even bump that down even more. Let's say eight. So we're taking 10 targets off of what he had last week. There's still an opportunity for him to perform at the level of A.J. brown or better. And Brown is facing a defense that while it's been terrible all season long, they play the type of defense, you know, based on Dave's research that is bad for AJ Brown. A lot more zone than man. So I just think that there's more upside with Michael Wilson and I'll buy into what I saw last week versus what I've seen from A.J. brown for the majority of the year.

[A]

All right, I'm going to share one more visual for you here. Just kind of give you a comparison of Michael Wilson and A.J. brown. So what do you think about this, Jamie? It's a Microsoft Word document that says Michael Wilson is probably going to score more than A.J. brown. All right, there you go. Very high tech stuff from Bob. I just traded Zach Bond for Baker Mayfield. I was going to start Sam Darnold, but now I feel like I have to try out my shiny new player. Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold?

[B]

I like Mayfield better. Again, I think there's more upside. He's getting Godwin back. That's a, that's a boost to whatever degree you think it might be. So yeah, I would go with, I would go with Godwin.

[A]

Okay. If anyone cares, I did watch all of Baker Mayfield's drop backs against the Bills. I didn't really. He didn't do poorly. You know, he just was very conservative in this game. He really didn't try, I think one shot downfield. It was late in the game and he also weather it was bad weather but Also he had 20 fantasy points against the Bills. That hasn't happened since week one until the last play of the game when he fumbled and lost it. So he would have had a decent game against the Bills. I like I said on the show Friday, the explosives have not been there for this passing offense. I don't know if that's just fluky and it comes back but that's been what's holding them back lately. All right, question from Brandon. Would you trade Romeo Dobbs and Quinton Johnston for Alec Pierce and Basil Tootin.

[B]

Romeo Dobbs and Quentin Johnson for Alec Pierce and Basil too. And I think at this point I'd rather have the upside of Dob Of Pearson Tootin.

[A]

Yeah, I think so. Right. You've got some serious upside there. And you don't have that with the other guys from Kyle. Oh, that. This was the no Strip Thomas one. That was great. From Ronan in Ireland. Dear Mike who? I was going to do the accent, but I think it would just be horrible and maybe offensive. Dear Mike Gerard, Bill and Pete.

[B]

Who was the second name? Mike what?

[A]

Mike Gerard. Bill and Pete.

[B]

Mike Gerard. Bill and Pete. I don't know.

[A]

Patriots coaches.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Remember Gerard.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Two in super Flex. Stafford Hertz, Young Darnold.

[B]

First two.

[A]

Okay, if I may, Jamie, this is the time that we share things. Random things like this. And you feel free to. Saw the word young there. Made me think of young Sheldon for some reason. I have been on a huge Big Bang Theory kick Nick at night. Big Bang Theory every night before bed. This show is so funny. I've watched it, but I watched all the episodes. It's a lot of new stuff for me. I don't know why people hate on the Big Bang Theory. The Big Bang Theory is incredible. And not only that, you talk about the best characters in sitcom history. You get, you know, you get Michael Scott and you get Al Bundy. You obviously get all the Seinfeld. Sheldon Cooper, he's up there. He. If he's not on Mount Rushmore, he's the. He's the gift shop at Mount Rushmore. He's not far away. He's terrific.

[B]

They have a gift shop there.

[A]

I don't know. Probably. Have you ever been there?

[B]

No, I have not. I would like to have been there either.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

Jamie.

[A]

What have you been watching lately? I just have to queue up the fantasy Cops music.

[B]

Last night I watched after the game was over, the end of Bronxdale, which is such a fantastic movie.

[A]

It is.

[B]

Please do not make something. No, here we go.

[A]

It is. It. It's a little extreme for me. It's a little too much. It's like they took mafia movies and they just went to 2 mafia almost in Bronxdale. Do you know the. I mean, like every. Every character in the movie is like a caricature of. Of the ones we see in the mafia movies. I don't know. Do you know the story behind a Bronx Tale?

[B]

I know Chaz Ponte wrote it.

[A]

Yeah, but it's about him. I believe it's it's autobiographical to some degree. I look it up. I need to look it up. It's an interesting story.

[B]

First off, the bar scene is incredible.

[A]

Now you guys gotta leave or something like that.

[B]

You guys can't leave.

[A]

You guys can't leave. It's a good movie. It's a good movie.

[B]

The fact that you even disparaged it in some way, shape or form is terrible.

[A]

I just don't think it's a great movie. And I'll give you an example. You know the scene where they. Where they have that. I think the song is I only have eyes for you.

[B]

Shabbat. Shabbat.

[A]

They play that for so long, it's really weird. There's just some. Some things in there that are just a little. Okay, yeah. People are saying he is the kid in the movie. Yeah, that's. It's an autobiography. It's a great. It's a great movie.

[B]

It's just.

[A]

It's a good. It's a very good movie. I'm not saying it's great. We good with that now? We're not good with that.

[B]

It's great. I hate you.

[A]

Listen, we got a dilemma, Jamie, because next week's a really busy week, right? We got full slate, no buys. We got Thanksgiving, and Wednesday night, we're doing our Thursday show. So it's a pedal to the metal. Try to get everything done before Thursday, basically. But stranger things. First four episodes are dropping Wednesday night. I mean, there's no chance we're gonna be able to watch those, right?

[B]

I've forgotten so much. That's what happened. I feel like I have to go back and watch the whole thing.

[A]

Yeah, I know. I'd love to. So there's Demi Gordon's. Yeah, I'm not going to say, just in case you haven't seen it, but. Yeah, probably should watch the most recent episode, the last episode of the last season, Fantasy Cops. Listen, I got some specific Fantasy Cops questions, but I just have to get this out there one more time. If I see another freaking email about your league vetoing a trade because they didn't want one of the good teams to become even better, I'm going to visit your draft next year and. And I don't know, give you really bad food or something. I do something negative, stop doing it. It's childish. It's wrong. Imagine if the NFL vetoed Jalen Phillips to the Eagles because they didn't want the super bowl champion to get better. Imagine.

[B]

You know, it happened in the NBA, right?

[A]

Yeah, I do. And. And the people were up in arms about can't happen. It's never a good reason to veto a trade. Shut up and stop whining. Make.

[B]

I would love for you just because you're not going to do this, but I would love for you if there's a draft within driving distance that you actually did this like here, here's.

[A]

Some generic French onion dip. It's terrible. All right, we're going to take a break and come back with the actual Fantasy Cops questions after this.

[B]

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Give it a [e-mail] Switch upfront payment $45 for a three month plan equivalent to $15 per month required new customer offer for first three months only. Speed slow after 35 gigabytes of network's busy taxes and fees extra. See mint mobile.com I'm having a weird day. I can't say a sentence right. I'm just flying off the handle. But here we go. Fantasy Cops. I guess I'm compensating for Dan's abse. All right, this is from Dean. Hello Dean. We have had a long time league. 12 plus years and about two years ago we switched over to a one keeper league. You can only keep a keeper for one year and you lose the draft pick. He was drafted the year before. We recently have run into the issue of teams that are eliminated or practically eliminated trading their good players away to playoff teams that have a good keeper. For example, we had a team with a 1% chance at making the playoffs try to trade Jalen Waddle and Deandre Swift for Cam Scatter. Boo. Who's a third? Who's on the third place team? I think it's a slippery, slippery slope that can lead to worse trades. But others say it's strategy and playing the game. Please help.

[B]

I mean it's, it's, it's part, it's part of what keeper leagues are. Right. And dice leagues are.

[A]

Yeah, I, I don't play in any keeper leagues to be quite honest with you. I know you do, but do you have any specific rules regarding this? Should there be a deadline maybe? No, no players who are on ir. I don't. I'm just throwing ideas out.

[B]

So in. I'm trying to think of the. There. I'm trying to think how I'm like just keeper leagues. I play in at least three. So trades. We don't really have any of these rules in place but we have a three person committee that decides if trades are fair or not. So we've never vetoed, I don't think any of them, but we have talked them through all the time. So it has got to be 2/3 majority. The other one that I set up and I did this purposely because I was in a basketball league similar to this that was just the trades were very lopsided. Somebody was out of it, they would trade all they would do for draft picks. So I made my keeper league where you can only keep players that you drafted. So the only thing that comes a little tricky with this is like people will draft rookies. So like someone will draft Kyle Williams, drop them the day after the draft and then try and pick them up if they get on the radar. You know what I mean?

[A]

That's interesting.

[B]

That's the only thing that comes into play there. And then the third one is just there's no rules at all about trades. I think just in the case of this, of this specific league, you want to encourage teams to be active to help themselves for next year. But if it's a one keeper league, like trading for a player like Cam Scatter, who doesn't make much sense like in this, in this scenario, like.

[A]

Well, yeah, let's not get into necessarily the specifics of the trade. Like if Scatter was a last round keeper, I think that's pretty good. But I, I think I'm mostly fine with it. Maybe tighten up your language a little bit. Like you, if you want to do that, you can only trade one player. So it's not, you know, you're not giving up Waddle and Swift. You can just give up Waddle, but.

[B]

Maybe, yeah, it, this is a, a fairly lopsided one.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Maybe tighten up the language a little bit but in theory I think we're fine with it. All right. This is from Herb from north of Ann Arbor. A misdemeanor offense. Misdemeanor here. I did. Cops deal with that too. I dropped and or traded the two players I named my team after. My team name is Bill Bo Baggins for Crosby Meriden Bo Nix. Do I have to rename my team?

[B]

No. Yes, you should though. But you don't have to.

[A]

You have to. You don't have to have. There's no penalty.

[B]

But I would say if your record is good, don't shake up karma. If your record is mediocre and you know this was the impetus to change everything else like, then, yes, change the team.

[A]

Next up, make this louder. Hold on. There we go. Next up is Nor. It's from Norm. It says dear Carter and Lee. No idea. Earlier this week, this is actually from a week and a half ago, the Tyler Warren manager in our league three and seven in do or die mode, put out a public call for best offers on Tyler Warren. He also warned everybody that if he didn't get what he considered a sufficient return, he would trade Warren to the first place juggernaut team for whatever the first place manager wanted to send back. Well, it worked. He ended up getting Saquon Barkley and Wandale Robinson for Tyler Warren. But if he hadn't gotten a real offer, would the league have been within its right to veto the below market value trade that he would have made with the first place team? On the one hand it's obviously league breaking, but on the other hand, he's not getting anything back from it and it's. And two, he's making his team better by showing that if he runs this kind of auction again, he'll actually follow through, meaning other teams should actually bid full price. So kind of interesting. He basically holds the rest of the league hostage, says make me an offer for Tyler Warren who is on a buy that week and if I don't like it, I'm gonna make an even worse deal with the first place team.

[B]

So you can obviously stand on the mountaintop and scream as loud as you want to until you actually put it into action. Right. So he could make these threats and it worked out for him. Had he actually gone through with it, I think the trade would have to be somewhat evaluated because if he's just taking garbage for Tyler Warren to the first place team, like that feels a little collusionist to me. That being said, that's a ridiculous trade.

[A]

Warren for Barkley and Wandale. Yeah, the thing about Barkley is Barkley, I think is RB16 per game right around there. Tyler Warren's probably what, third? Something like that. He's been more valuable than Saquon Barkley.

[B]

I'd have to say per position. Sure.

[A]

But yeah, exactly. I don't even know what the differential in the. Let me look at the points per game in ppr. I'm curious. I mean, I'm sure Barkley has outscored him, but probably not by that much. What do you think? Want to guess?

[B]

I think you can stream tight ends. You can't stream Barkley.

[A]

Barkley is averaging 15.1 points per game.

[B]

Tyler Warren's got to be like 12, 13.6.

[A]

Yeah, he is. Tight end four per game, but Darren Waller is one of them. So he's tight end three per game. All right. I guess I'm. I. This is really kind of dirty, but I. I guess I'm okay with it. I think by the letter of the law, it's okay.

[B]

You can threaten to do whatever you want to until you actually do it.

[A]

Yeah, you probably could have gone about it in a better way. Like a nicer way. But.

[B]

Well, it's also like that, right? He just went like, what's. We don't know the relationship between the first place manager and this person. We don't know if there's been a history of bad trades before. Like.

[A]

By the way, quick news update here. Looks like two starting defensive backs for the Lions, Terry and Arnold and Kirby Joseph are not looking good. They're not seen at Lions practice. Neither is left tackle Taylor Decker. Surprising Wanda. This is from Dylan. Oh, wait, sorry. Before we get to Dylan, do you agree with this from Adam Lee? Adam on the Fantasy Cops? Adam Azer is definitely Mahoney. Oh, yeah, Mahoney. Are you kidding me? I'm. Mahoney is the cool rule breaker. I am not Mahoney at all. If anything, I'm Proctor.

[B]

No, you're the leader.

[A]

I'm the leader. I appreciate that. Here's the Fantasy Cops from Dylan. My brother verbally made a legitimate trade and I verbally accepted it. But then he said, psych, nevermind. What are your thoughts on this?

[B]

His brother? Yeah, I mean, it's a verbal trade. You can revoke. It sucks, but you can't.

[A]

You can revoke verbal trades. It's not cool. Don't make them unless you plan on. On following through. Although I can't say I've never done that before. That's it for the Fantasy Cops. I got something fun to promote. We are in this. This tournament. Let me see. I need a URL. Give me one. Moment. Damn it. This is so me today, isn't it?

[B]

Bengals have until 4pm on Saturday, so you might be listening to us at that point. 4pm on Saturday to make Joe Bro active for this week.

[A]

Okay. We're in a tournament.

[B]

Jaden Reed's practice window has been opened.

[A]

The 64.com and they make all these 64 team or thing. Like it could be food, whatever. Go to the64.comt h e64.com and you'll see right there, America's best sports talk radio slash podcast. We are on the right side, like the top right bracket. And we're going up for head to head. I'm going to vote right now. We're going up against busing with the boys. It said good.

[B]

What?

[A]

Yeah, we're going up head to head against them.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And I'm voting for fantasy football today. So let's get us to the second round.

[B]

I mean, that would be a major.

[A]

Upset for us or for them?

[B]

For us.

[A]

Don't underestimate us. We got a big audience here.

[B]

But this is a huge podcast.

[A]

This is the first time I promoted. And the thing is, it's only up for like a couple days. So we'd appreciate if you go there the64.com and then. Yeah, just vote for fantasy football today. That'd be awesome. We'd really appreciate your support. All right, and let's read some Apple podcast questions. What are your plans this weekend, Jamie?

[B]

Oh, I got a fun day tomorrow. I got baseball double header soccer game and then Panthers game tomorrow night.

[A]

Oh, who are they playing?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Hockey is very weird.

[B]

It is a party at the Panthers game, so.

[A]

Nice. So hockey is very weird because every team is. Almost every team is above 500 and yet you. That doesn't mean you're going to make the playoffs because you don't lose unless you lose in regulation. So they might want to. We were talking. I was talking about this with my friends. Maybe change it. So get three points for a win. Set of two points for a win in regulation. Okay, here we go.

[B]

Big Farts Zero wants us to say his name, so vote for us.

[A]

Oh, Big Fart Zero. Okay. Yeah, there you go. Just tuning in. Any word on Bucky? Yeah, Bucky's not playing this week. Hopefully back next week. Okay, now Apple podcast questions. I was killing time till I pulled them up. I'm really doing great today. This is from Dan, a sad New York Giants fan in San Diego. Diego. Not quite. Ardan 12 team, half PPR, two wide receivers two running backs, one tight end, one flex. I have Bucky Irving, Sean Tucker and Trey Benson. If Benson is back, should I start him over? Sean Tucker.

[B]

I probably still go with Tucker just to give Benson a week to see what it looks like. But they're close.

[A]

From Allen in Boston. Dear Tony, Christopher, Carm, Paulie and Silvio.

[B]

That would be a Bronx tale.

[A]

Game of Thrones at Lannisters.

[B]

Gamer Eric says that Heath is Tackleberry.

[A]

Oh, interesting. Jamie starts. It has been part of my preparation since 2010.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Thank you. As a James Cook manager, should I consider rostering both Ray Davis and Ty Johnson?

[B]

That's a lot of roster space for one backfield. I still think that if James Cook misses any time, Ray Davis steps into Cook's role and Ty Johnson gets more work but does not see the huge bump in in touches or playing time. So I would rather roster Ray Davis as the Handcuff 100.

[A]

Agree. This is from Medic Nick. I got offered Breeze hall and Justin Jefferson for Kyron Williams and Michael Wilson. Which side would you rather have?

[B]

Breeze hall and Justin Jefferson. For who and Michael?

[A]

Kyron Williams and Michael Wilson.

[B]

I'd rather have the Breeze hall side just because Wilson's not going to be long term.

[A]

And who would you start? Pick three. Michael Wilson, DK Metcalf, Devonte Adams, Chris Olave. You need to sit one.

[B]

Metcalf is sitting.

[A]

Okay. This is from hindsight.

[B]

Oh, that's a good call too. Dan is Lieutenant Harris.

[A]

Yeah. Well, then I can't be Proctor because I will not work under Dan. You think Dan's Lt. Harris? So he's the pain in the butt, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think I'm Lieutenant Harris. Just being honest here. Okay. Dear Mirabel, Lisa, Isabella and Peppa. I have no idea. Grade the trade 12 team PPR league. Give up James Cook, Ray Davis, Quentin Johnston and Isaiah Pacheco.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Okay, James. That's like basically James Cook. James Cook, Ray Davis, Quentin Johnston, Pacheco. Get Rico Dowdle and Chuba Hubbard, Jalen Waddle and Trey Benson.

[B]

100%.

[A]

Yeah. Do it. A minus. No A plus. This is from Lewis. Hey, Tim Al Wilson and Jill.

[B]

Tim Al Wilson and Jill.

[A]

Something. This. This is something that you and I are probably not good at. This is home improvement.

[B]

I was gonna say home improvement.

[A]

Yeah. Super flex league. We have a three quarterback position limit. I have Herbert and Bo Nix on a buy. And I have Jacoby Brissette Jackson darts on my. I. Oh, well, you don't have to activate him.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

It worked out for you. Sorry I Should not have read that. And last thing here, let me see if this one works. Fantasy cops. I have a league mate complaining that I changed my lineup after 10am game started with my commissioner power. I did no such thing. And he's now refusing to pay his remaining fee and swears I'm cheating because my lineup changed at 9:59 after I benched Kamani Vidal for Christian Watson. What should I do? This is Pacific time.

[B]

I mean.

[A]

The games didn't even start yet. Give me a break. Just pay your dues, you big baby. Not the person.

[B]

10:00Am Pacific. Yeah, yeah, I think that's fine. I mean, this just sounds like somebody trying to weasel out of pain.

[A]

If someone said to me at 9:59am Pacific or 12:59pm Eastern Time, hey, I missed the deadline. Can I make this roster? Move a hundred percent, I would let them make the roster.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

100%. You just have now come. You have to message the whole league. That's the thing.

[B]

Yeah. You did that last night.

[A]

What?

[B]

There was an issue with you last night, right? Might not have been you. I. I know there was an issue with somebody named Adam.

[A]

Oh, no, it wasn't me.

[B]

Okay. I thought it might have been you. He sent us a message and said Adam sent me a note to change his lineup after. Right. Right before kickoff. After lineups locked, and I didn't get to it. Just want to let you know, here's what I did.

[A]

Okay. Fair.

[B]

So.

[A]

All right. We. Yeah. Pay the dues. Don't be.

[B]

Don't.

[A]

Don't be a baby. Good move sitting Vidal for Christian Watson. Oh, that is kind of fishy. Why on earth would you have done that? It worked out. But that's interesting.

[B]

That is fishy.

[A]

All right, let's get to some Spotify comments here.

[B]

Unless he just followed the every other week. And just to say, oh, no.

[A]

So very.

[B]

So wait. Now we have to figure this out though, right? Because Vidal has been. Every other week. Good. But we have the bye week. Was every other game or is every.

[A]

Other week every other game? I think it's every other game.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's a very tough call. Thank you for your Spotify comments. We appreciate it. We're looking to grow big time on Spotify, so help us out with that. From Juke. Which team. Which side would you rather have in a trade? Rico Dowdle. Baker Mayfield. Chris Olave. Rico Dowdle. Baker Mayfield. Chris olave or Trey McBride and Justin Jefferson.

[B]

Wow. McBride and Jefferson.

[A]

Yeah. But he explains the team getting McBride doesn't have a tight end the team getting Baker doesn't have a quarterback, so this is a fine, fine trade. How about this one from Kick Rocks. Grade the trade 12 team PPR. Romo Dunes and T. Higgins for Puka Nakua.

[B]

Romo Doings, Auntie Higgins for Puka Nakua. I mean, if you need the receiver depth, that's fine. Yeah, it's fine, right?

[A]

Both sides could win from that. Would you rather have.

[B]

You know what's weird? You know how it's just like the universe is so weird sometimes. So the first time I've said all day and maybe all week that I'm going to the Panthers game tomorrow. It's part of a party. The person who's hosting the party at the Panthers game just texted me. Did I accept my tickets yet? It's just crazy.

[A]

I like that. I'm very jealous of you. Panthers games are super fun. Yeah. From Ricky Listener in Australia. Would you rather have Diggs or Judkins? Rest of season, half ppr.

[B]

Oh, boy. Judgins. But it's close.

[A]

This one is from Ace. I need two running backs and a flex and ppr. Travion Henderson, Ashton Genti, Aaron Jones. Let's start with that. Pick two, Henderson, Genti Jones.

[B]

I would go with.

[A]

I'd bench Genti and then a flex in PPR from Genty Jennings and Michael Wilson.

[B]

Michael Wilson.

[A]

This is from Carlos Daniel Jones, Jordan Love, Jacoby Brissette. Pick one.

[B]

Jacoby, Pick two.

[A]

In standard scoring, Breeze Hall, Josh Jacobs, Charbonnet Tootin.

[B]

Assuming Jacobs plays, it would be Jacobs and Hall, right? You said Hollis.

[A]

Yeah. And then the others are Charbonnet and Tootin.

[B]

So it'd be Tooton if Jacob's out.

[A]

And two wide receivers in standard scoring. Saint Brown, Olave Abuka, Odunze, A.J. brown.

[B]

This is bragging. I would go with Saint Brown and Buka.

[A]

Okay. And then I'm gonna flex Olave. I think I don't understand why the Falcons are not using AJ Terrell to shadow they. They did a little bit. They did a decent amount with Terrell McMillan, but not enough. And when he has shadow, guys, he's done really well. This is from Ben. That's obviously in relation to Chris Olave. Ben's personal walk up. Songs for a fight are slings and arrows by the warriors and Black Republicans by Nas and Jay Z. And I have heard neither of them. Braxton is considering trading Rico dowdle and Terry McLaurin for A.J. brown and Bucky Irving.

[B]

I mean, that's fine. You know, hopefully Bucky is the guy we thought he was going to be at the start of the season. But you're giving up Rico Dowdle, who's.

[A]

Been awesome, and Greg sit. Sit one. In a 12 team standard scoring league. Sit one. Trayvon Henderson, Chase Brown, Justin Jefferson. A Mecca, Abuka T. Higgins, George Pickens. Wow.

[B]

Give me names again.

[A]

Travion Henderson, Chase Brown Jefferson, Abuka Higgins Pickens.

[B]

Man, is it sad that I like Jefferson the least.

[A]

Oh, man, I don't know who to.

[B]

Sit here if you're concerned about, like, you know, heat stake on the Patriots backfill. If you want to sit Anderson.

[A]

I think I would sit Henderson if Ramandre plays. Otherwise, I'll sit.

[B]

Chase Jefferson's the guy for me.

[A]

Yeah, I said Chase Brown over. It's standard scoring. The games that Nico Collins had.

[B]

You.

[A]

Know, two week two and three weeks ago, games that Ted Roll McMillan had, I just feel like it's there for Jefferson. I don't know about this week because it's a tough matchup, but I just feel like it's. It's gonna be there. He's gonna have a big game. Jamie might be this week. If it's not this week, it could be next week or it could be week 14.

[B]

I mean, the thing, it could be.

[A]

15, it could be week six, 16 or something.

[B]

The thing about it is, like, most people are not benching Justin Jefferson. We have not said to bench Justin Jefferson. We're answering questions that are very difficult to answer. So, you know, I hope nobody's gonna say you guys said benched out Jefferson. No, in a very specific situation, we are saying to Ben Jefferson, I think.

[A]

Sometime maybe next year, you could have a big game. It's gonna happen.

[B]

You stretch your joke enough. Good.

[A]

Sometimes when the joke is so obviously over and you go back to it, that is funny. Okay. Not to Jamie, though. Let's go to YouTube comments to finish the show. Which of the FFT crew is notorious for sending insulting trade offers?

[B]

You. 100% you.

[A]

I also send the most trade offers. I think so.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

Could Jalen Waddle be a league winner and should I trade two of Judkins, Aaron Jones and Cortland Sutton for him?

[B]

I would definitely trade. If you could turn Cortland Sutton and Aaron Jones into Jalen Waddle, I would do it. And yes, Waddle can absolutely be a league winner.

[A]

All right. This can't be true. This can't be true. I have got to find out if this is true. From Luke, the number one sports podcast in the world, pardon my take, made fun of Pete Prisco's picks on your draft board photo behind you, Adam. That can't be true. First of all, this is a fake draft board. I hope that's true. That's really funny if it is. I gave Dave 18 running backs. This is from three or four years ago at this point. More than that for me. Jamie Heath. I think I drafted normal teams for Pete. I gave him all Jaguars. So he went Lawrence in round one etn, James Robinson, Marvin Jones, Evan Ingram, Christian Kirk, Dan Arnold, Jamal Agnew, Leviska, Chenault, Snoop Connor was in there and the Jaguars dst. That would be really funny if that's true. I hope that's true.

[B]

I'm gonna google it, see what happens.

[A]

Okay. Rico Dowdle or Travion Henderson in ppr.

[B]

Rico Dowdle or Travion Henderson and ppr. I would go with Rico Dowdle.

[A]

If Ramandre is out though, I think I might go Henderson here. Am I crazy?

[B]

Sure you do.

[A]

Okay, I got a stinker from Nico Collins. Am I crazy to want to start Tettero McMillan over a Mecca abuka?

[B]

No, I would still go buka, but not crazy.

[A]

Yeah, I wouldn't do it. I said this about Tedro McMillan and I want to get your thoughts on it. So I. It was on beyond the box score on Monday. Let me get. Let me just pull it up. So the guy that I had been comparing a Mecca Bukas to or. No, that's in Book of McMillan. The guy that I had been comparing, Ted Roll, McMill, Millen. Two. Two guys. Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave in their rookie seasons. Everything was really similar going into this last week. And even now it's. It's Fairly similar. Tele McMillan, Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, compare their 17 game paces as rookies. All of them are 82 to 88 catches. All of them are between 1100 and 1200 yards. All of them 135 to 147 targets and all of them four to six touchdowns. It's pretty damn similar. And all of them 12.8 to 13.9 PPR fantasy points. Right now McMillan's having the best season of those three as rookies. Going into last week, he was having the worst season. But the argument I made was that, you know, Garrett Wilson, he had a 30 point game in week two. Okay, he had three games that year as, as a rookie where he scored 24.2 or more PPR fantasy points. So I guess my concern is that we're not taking the full season of not McMillan really, but Bryce Young into account and getting Too excited about Tedro McMillan based on the best game in Bryce Young's career. The best game in Carolina Panthers quarterback history. Career. And we're going a little overboard with. With McMillan.

[B]

Well, I, I think again, like you look at some of the more productive games for McMillan and that's usually my baseline is like, can he get to that? Can he get to 14 or 15 points?

[A]

I bet, I bet he's only done that if. I don't even know.

[B]

He had the one game with Darnold where he was like 6 for 99.

[A]

I think it was with Dalton. Yeah, Dalton.

[B]

Excuse me.

[A]

How many points? 14 points. He's done that three times this year. So he did that against Dallas with two touchdowns. He did that against Buffalo with Andy Dalton and he did that obviously last week. I'm starting him without hesitation because I think it's, you know, it's a good setup for him and hopefully they found something, get their passing game going a little bit. Maybe they can get.

[B]

His routes were different. I mean, that helped.

[A]

Yeah, 200 passing yards. Can I. Can we just get that from Bryce Young?

[B]

All right.

[A]

Anyway, if you play out the game.

[B]

As you think it will go, that 49ers offense doing positive things, then should be at that type of game and their def.

[A]

Their past defense stinks.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. Caleb Williams, Bryce Young, Jordan Love or Sam Darnold this week I go Darnold. Me too. I'm glad you said that. I was. I was thinking that should I trade Derek Henry for Saquon Barkley?

[B]

I'd rather have Henry.

[A]

Should I stash Mike Evans?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Travion, Sean, Tucker or Judkins this week? Ppr Trevion with or without ramanjay? Right.

[B]

Doesn't matter.

[A]

Mooney or Odunze. I'd go Dunes, Tucker, Tucker, Algier or. A lot of. A lot of typos here. Or Kyle Menangai Tucker. Actually, I don't know that these are typos. I think these were intentional. Half ppr, etn, Jones, Tucker, Hall, Tootin. Pick two. Okay, I'll read it again. Travis etn, Aaron Jones, Sean Tucker, Breeze, Hall, Basil, Tootin. Pick two.

[B]

ETN and Jones.

[A]

Tough calls there. Good. A good options. Jennings, Piersall, Tootin. Pick 2 and half PPR.

[B]

I would go with Jennings and Tune.

[A]

I can't wait for Pierce all to have a big game and thus get so annoyed every single week with the new Chargers. I don't know saying that's going to happen, but I would you drop week 14?

[B]

We won't worry about that, they're on a buy. Yeah.

[A]

Would you drop Pierce all for Tutin?

[B]

I mean assuming to never gets the full time job because of an injury, he is going to be a league winner. I don't know if Pearsall will ever be a league winner, nor do I know if you'll be starting him consistently. But clearly you're starting Pierce all over two and in the current environment for both these guys, Current situation, both these guys.

[A]

Wait, you're starting Pierce all over Tooton?

[B]

You're going to start Pierce all over Tooting more times than not. Oh, I don't know in the current scheme of things, but yes, I would probably rather roster Tootin if I'm never.

[A]

Playing Piercel Tyrone Tracy Parker Washington Kenneth Gainwell.

[B]

Gainwell by far. If Warren is out, probably go Tracy if Warren is in. Do we have an update on that yet?

[A]

No, not that I've seen. Last thing I wanted to say about McMillan, I forgot to mention this and I have mentioned it a couple times, but if you missed it, I see a lot more passing in their future. They've got a tough schedule in terms of the offenses that they're playing. I don't think they're just gonna be able to run the ball over and over again. Which I actually think will be good for Dowdle because I will catch more passes but. Well, I don't know if it'll be good for Data, but it may not be bad. But I think that'll be good for McMillan. They've been way too run heavy this year. Alec Pierce for Michael Wilson. Grade the trade.

[B]

I mean long term, you rather have Pierce one week. I'd rather have Wilson. So it depends which need.

[A]

I'm not sure what this is all about, but it says I will be rooting against Adam.

[B]

Maybe the Lions, Giants bet.

[A]

Maybe Aaron Jones, Alec Pierce, Jacoby Myers, Xavier Worthy, Christian Watson. Pick two.

[B]

So I've done a little bit of a 180 on Myers with Brian Thomas not playing. I know I. I was very pessimistic when we did the game yesterday. I moved him up to like wide receiver, 26. I think it's close between him and Pierce. To me, Aaron Jones is the easy one. I may even have to make that change too. So I'm gonna go Jones and Myers.

[A]

I guess I missed that. Is Brian Thomas Jr. Been ruled out?

[B]

No, but just not expecting to play.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, it's big difference. Obviously there Tyler Warren or George Kittle rest of season.

[B]

Wow. I'm gonna go Warren, but it's close. Just because kill saw as a buy and a very favorable schedule for one.

[A]

Let's see.

[B]

Is that like a trade? Because if you have both, you could play both.

[A]

You could. All right, last one. Rico Dowdle. Stefan Diggs or Chris Olave. PP Half people.

[B]

I go daddle. Cool.

[A]

Adam, please. Big farts says please watch Bob's Burgers. I think you'll love that joke. You think I haven't seen Bob's Burgers? Big Farts.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're full of hot air. Okay, remember to. Remember to go to the24.com. The 64. The 64.com. I don't know what the 24.com is.

[B]

I'm going right now.

[A]

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