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Mike McClure
Good morning and happy Thursday, everyone. Welcome to Fantasy Football Today DFS. As always, I'm joined by Meg Shout and Mike McClure. Ladies and gentlemen, we've got a 11 game slate. Last week it was 10 games. We try to keep the show really kind of bad at a rapid pace, so I think we should get right into it again. 11 games slate. 8 games at 1 o'clock, 3 at 4 o'clock. We're going to be giving out our favorite plays in each game, our cheat sheets, and then Mike McClure's top three at each position. Get in the chat. Smash the like button like Richie Smalls already has. And Josh Lucero and Chris Serrano. Thanks for being in here. And by the way, we're about to put our FFT DFS Week 11 contest in the chat. It's only $5. Click on the link. It'll be in the chat. It'll be in the YouTube description, the podcast description. So many ways that you can access that. Get into our 200 person contest. All right, let's get started. We've got a contest between the packers and the Bears. Maybe not the most exciting game from a DFS standpoint. Obviously a lot of turmoil in Chicago. Packers. You know, Mike, I'm going to start with you. I don't think I really want to be involved in this game. It's a relatively low total. There's a lot more games that I'm very much interested in. Anything showing up. Packers, Bears.
Guest Analyst
I think the packers defense and special teams could be an interesting look here. But yeah, that's mostly all I can get to as far as like skill, position players. That's what I was trying to look through. I'm not really getting anything. I think if you want to take a shot on Josh Jacobs, that's fine. But as we'll talk about later throughout the show, there are a ton of higher end running back options that I think are just in such smash spots that I can't get there. But it wouldn't shock me if we get a Jacobs game of 70 yards, two touchdowns and he ultimately gets there.
Mike McClure
Yeah, Meg, I get that argument. I think it's interesting from a contrarian standpoint to consider DeAndre Swift at 6600, but if I'm being honest, there's so many high end good running back plays. I just can't imagine. I Get there. Unless it's like a bigger contest I'm out on. Really all Bears. Anything in this game that you like before we move on to maybe a more exciting game from a DFS standpoint?
Meg Shaughnessy
Yeah, I echo what you and Mike both said. Really not a ton of interest in this game. Maybe you could make a case for Josh Jacobs again. Wouldn't be surprised there. And I like Mike's call on the packers defense, but other than that there's just too many, as you guys both said, great high end running back spots.
Mike McClure
Okay, well let's move on then. Let's move on to a game that you know isn't going to have a lot of DFS appeal. But you know, maybe it should and maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it will. Jacksonville at Detroit. It's a 47 point total. Implied totals here is probably the important thing. 30 for the Detroit Lions. We know their portfolio is largely diversified, right? There's so many different targets, two different running backs. And then you look on the Jaguar side. We've got issues in the at the quarterback obviously, but running backs, some health issues, you know, Brian Thomas, still some health issues. I can't even see like a value play. I'd want to play on that side of the ball in a negative game script. But Meg, maybe you disagree. Is there anybody in this game that you like? I got to be honest, I think David Montgomery at 6500 an interesting contrarian play. Your thoughts on this game?
Meg Shaughnessy
Yeah, I would agree with you on David Montgomery is a contrary play because I see Gibbs coming in with higher ownership obviously. But again like you said, their portfolio sorrow is so large they're going to score. Who is it? We don't know. So I think I like the Montgomery contrarian call for sure. But you could go down and if you feel like the passing game gets there. Jamison Williams. I don't think I'm not going to pay up for a Monroe because there are too many other pay up spots that I like and he really hasn't smashed this year. He only hasn't had these like ceiling outcome games because. Because their portfolio of players and studs is too so large. So not going to get there and like you said, don't see anything on the Jaguar side. I do like that David Montgomery contrarian call out but other than that, not much.
Mike McClure
Yeah, Mike, this is interesting because as much as I want to play Jared Goff at home indoors against the terrible team, you know, Tim Patrick, Khalif Raymond, even those guys get involved. Sam Laporta now fully Integrated into this offense. Anybody on the Detroit side and it's just there. Is there a value play on Jacksonville or do we move on?
Guest Analyst
I'm mostly moving on. I would say that I think this is an interesting spot to full on onslaught the Lions if you can just get it right. But I think you're only doing that in 20 plus entries, right? So like if you're playing one to five, you're definitely not. I do like the Montgomery call. The running back usage really is kind of game script dependent. If you think the team, the other team can push, it's clearly played Jameer Gibbs. If it's a game that they win comfortably, it's definitely play Montgomery. You look the last two weeks great example against the Texans in that competitive game, Gibbs, 19 carries, 11 for Montgomery. Exactly flipped the week before against Packers, 19 or 18 for Montgomery, only 11 or 12 for Gibbs. So I, I lean towards Montgomery. The issue that I run into like if I'm playing Montgomery, it's because I've got three running backs, right? You're almost definitely playing. If you're playing Montgomery, you're playing in one of the running back spots with another one, maybe CMC in the flex in the late game. That's the only thing I could get here.
Mike McClure
So that, that's a good way of sort of opening the door on some of these running backs that are going to be really good cash game plays and really good tournament plays. You mentioned CMC Alvin Kamara, Breeze hall, like CMC Alvin Kamal. You look at their combo lines, they're they're almost like identical. It's in that 107, 108 yard total yards for those guys. But right behind them, Breeze Hall, Devin Hn, Jonathan Taylor, a little bit lower, Kyron Williams, all of those guys. I just mentioned their combo lines that the sports books are 100 plus. So they're all going to be highly involved in their game scripts. It kind of makes playing guys like David Montgomery a little bit more difficult. Richie Small says, can you play both in your lineup, Sonic and Knuckles? Of course, referring to Jameer Gibbs and David Montgomery. I think there are situations where you can do that, but not this week. I think I'm probably going to get some head nods from, from Megan and Mike on that one. I just, this isn't the time to do that. I think if you're playing smaller slates and you see Detroit, I think you can do that in a. And maybe a more competitive game. I will say this about David Montgomery. They started out with Jameer Gibbs pretty heavy early in that game against the Texans, I don't know that we see that. And by the way, they kind of got away from their. Jamir was fine, but they kind of got away from their identity a little bit. Like obviously they fell behind pretty big. I could see David Montgomery starting and finishing this game with a little bit more of a role than he did at the beginning last week. But that's, that's part of the reason I like him at 6500 in the lead off role, but in the cleanup role as well. All right, Raiders, Dolphins, pretty low total, but again we look at implied totals, right? It's low because the Raiders probably aren't going to be scoring much. The dolphins, 25 and a half point total. Mike Tyree Kill is always on our radar. Obviously dealing with a wrist injury. Doing, dealing with some inconsistency at the quarterback position. I think everyone is going to look at this game and say, give me Devon HN and let me get out. What's your take?
Guest Analyst
Yeah, I like HN here. You know, he didn't have the best game in the last game and it was really just the receiving yardage that lacked and obviously not finding the end zone. Caught all 5 of the targets but only 15 yards. Now some of that was, I believe there was a 10 yard negative play in there that really hurt. But when you look at that spot, you got to still be encouraged with the volume because it really didn't change as much as we thought it might with Tyreek being back in there. So I personally like HN. I think that he at 72, like it's interesting compared to some of the other backs, but it is enough of a discount from Kamara and CMC that I think he's really, really close to those two in terms of value.
Mike McClure
Meg, are you in on HN this week and is there anybody else on the Miami side you'd speculate on? I probably won't be on Tyree Kill. I mean, you know, Mike, you're famous for saying like guys like Tyree Kill, they can go off at any moment. So if ownership is going to be down, like you know, Tyree Kill could suddenly have that 150 yard, two touchdown game. With that said, for me, it's Devin H and anybody on the other side. Jacoby Myers, 5600. I'm not interested in the running backs. I doubt you are either. Brock Bowers, 5800. What do we like?
Meg Shaughnessy
Yeah, I agree with you guys. On a channel like we talked about, there are so many of those Spend up running backs that we need to decide between. He is one of them, so definitely like Achan in this spot. The other one I'll throw out on Miami side is Johnny Smith. He's much more involved in the passing game than he has been. And my theme this week is going to be because we talked about exp. Defensive running backs. We like cheap tight end, so I like tight ends 4k and under. He falls into that bucket and actually Raiders is a good matchup for tight end, so. And again, he's been a lot more involved, kind of almost replacing Waddle. So I'll throw out John who as my cheap tight end options.
Mike McClure
I think that's a great call at 3800. Definitely somebody you can mix into your lineups. All right, let's move on. Again, a lot of exciting games that'll probably talk about more in depth, but they kind of come down the line here. Vikings at the Titans. Probably not one we're going to get super involved with a meg. I mean, this is a 39 and a half point total. Vikings have been slipping a little bit. Not necessarily the best matchup against a formidable Titans defense. I'll point out Calvin. Calvin Ridley had a nice game last week, but I don't know that we can expect a ton of consistency there. So I look at the Vikings side. Aaron Jones, a little hobbled. This is one of those games. I think I just might mark off my sheet, so to speak. I'm not interested. How about you?
Meg Shaughnessy
Not? No. I'm not really interested either. I mean, of course you can. You know, just like we talk about all the studs, you can always make a case for Justin Jefferson, so. And if he's coming in at low ownership, that's interesting, but I don't think I would likely get there this week. You could also make a case for Calvin Ridley, but his price is kind of creeping up that I don't think I'll go there against the spiking steep ends either. So, you know, I see it, but I don't think I'll get there on either.
Mike McClure
Mike, any thoughts on Calvin Ridley at 6200 or really anybody in this game?
Guest Analyst
So Ridley's interesting. Like he could definitely make your player pool. The problem is, is you really. You don't want to stack with Ridley. Right. So you're not stacking that it's a standalone play, but the price point is appropriate. At 6200, he's clearly playing like a $7,000 receiver. I think the best comp that I could make is probably George Pickens. So Pickens, I know he gets Baltimore, but Pickens salary right at 7K. That's kind of where Ridley should be with the upside that he represents. And the thing about Ridley, like yeah, I think that they could find themselves in a game script that gets them there. But man, I, I don't, I don't feel great about it. I don't want to do it, but I'm not going to fault you at all. At 6200, it does make a lot of sense and it, it, he does still have multiple touchdown upside like Calvin Ridley in any matchup you were talking, you know, it's not 10 catches, but we're talking six. Seven receptions, 80 to 100 yards and two touchdowns is very, very much in the range of outcomes here.
Mike McClure
Well, speaking a lot of touchdowns, receptions and perhaps interceptions, I got to point out because this will be the next game that we end up getting to. Jeffrey Lightsey says I'm not going to miss the 500 passing yards, three touchdown, four interception week from Jameis this week. Actually, that's the next game we're going to tackle. I do want to mention that if you're watching us on Twitter and you want to jump into this chat, just go to the Fantasy Football Today YouTube channel and you can jump in just like Jeffrey Lightsey, Kirk Schroyer and some of these others are in terms of asking questions and making comments. So again, if you're watching us on Twitter, that's great. You can, you can keep watching us on Twitter or you can jump into the YouTube channel on fantasy Football Today and join the team. Join the chat here. We got to get to that Brown Saints game because it's obviously got a lot of interest for a lot of different reasons. We're going to do it right after this message from our partners.
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Mike McClure
All right, we're back on Fantasy Football Today, DFS. I'm joined by Meg Shop and Mike McClure. Every single Thursday at 11:00 we go through the entire main slate. Little touch on showdown at the end of the show for Eagles commanders. And of course, Mike gives out his top three at the end of the show. And Megan, I give out our cheat sheets. But involved in that cheat sheet perhaps is a little Jameis Winston action. He's one of those names where when you say his name, I think it just brings a smile to people's face whether they like him in DFS or not. It's like there are certain things that like bring a smile to my face anytime Jameis Winston comes up in conversation. It does. He's only 5,500. Cedric Tillman, a guy that we've been touting before. It was cool to tout him at 5300. David Najoku, 5500. I mean there's, there's a lot of options. Jerry Judy, Elijah Moore, cheaper options here and then on the other side, you know, a healthy Derek Carr, Alvin Kamar is going to be really popular at 8200. There's a lot to consider here. Taysom Hill at 4500. Meg, Meg, I'm going to start with you. How are you playing this one?
Meg Shaughnessy
Oh, absolutely love Jamis this week to Cedric Tillman. I don't really like spending up on tight end but Najoku would be in my player pool for sure. So absolutely love that on the brown side. If you want to get more contrarian, I do think you could even consider Nick Chubb here. Listen, the Falcons lost this game but they put up over 500 yards of offense. They just didn't convert a lot. Saints still give it up in every way. Run, running game, passing game. So I do think you could look to Nick Chubb. But I absolutely love the passing game and we'll definitely have some Jameis Winston, Tillman, potentially Nijoku stacks. And then on the Saints side, I mean Kamar is always obviously in play with his volume. So there's definitely in the player pool is one of those top end running backs to consider.
Mike McClure
I like Jameis Winston a lot. My three favorite stacks going into this show and it always changes because Meg, I listen to you, I listen to Mike and you know, injury news and value kind of springs up sometimes after this show. But I'm just going to come out with it since we don't have our Hellman stack to give out. I like Jamison and Cedric Tillman. That's one of my stacks. Brock Purdy to Juwan Jennings. That was mine last week. I'm going right back to it. Although we'll talk about that San Francisco game because I think you can play Brock Purdy naked. I think you can play him with cmc Debo Kittle, whatever you want to do. And Trick made a case on booty is actually one that is so cost effective, especially when we're talking about expensive running backs that that's something I'm interested in as well. But I lay that all out for you, Mike, because I included obviously Jameis Winston in this Are we? Potentially. I mean, this is the Saints defense, which is bad banged up on the back end. Is the community at large overvaluing this spot for Jameis Winston or is it all systems go?
Guest Analyst
It's all systems go for me. It's mostly a price point thing too. Right. He's super cheap and he's got a great stacking partner with upside that's also cheap. So it allows you to build whatever you want. So I'll preface everything I'm about to say on Jamis by reading you the rest of some of this lineup that I've just got sitting in front of me. Christian McCaffrey, Alvin Kamaro, Devon HN, DeAndre Hopkins, any defense you want at 3K or above, all in the same lineup with Jameis Winston to Tillman. So there, there's just so many options here. But could I interest you in 87 passing attempts in two games? Because I'm interested in that. Whether they go for touchdowns or not. I, you know, look, if you're going to throw 87, I don't care if two of them land in the hands of the defense, to be honest with you, like, keep chucking. Right. So in fact, Jameis throwing a pick six could be the best thing that would happen here. Right? Back on the field now, you're guaranteed to continue to throw the football. So like I, you have to separate real life football from DFS when it comes to some of this stuff. I, I, he's going to be extremely popular. Right. So what your job is going to be is can you get different enough and have enough upside everywhere else in your lineup? That's going to be the challenge. I personally think that I can with some of the stances I want to take elsewhere. So. I love Jameis. I'm playing him. You can stack them with Tillman, you can stack him with more. You can stack them within Joku. Tillman is definitely the, the obvious piece. Now when I say getting different, like the most common piece here is going to be Jameis, Tillman and Kamara, right?
Mike McClure
Yeah.
Guest Analyst
So maybe if you want to take the stance on not playing either Tillman or Kamara. Kamara, you know, obviously big bring back. He's got big volume. But those are ways you'd want to look to start getting different. But yeah, there's no, no way that I'm not playing some Jamis this week.
Mike McClure
Cousin Ernest says hi, Meg, Mike. And see it. Thanks for all you do. Thanks for being in here and thanks for the compliment. Hit the like button and maybe review the podcast if you could on Spotify or Apple appreciate everybody being in here. Mike, can I ask you something? So if it's not Alvin Kamara, because I think this is a game where having a run back option makes sense. It doesn't always make sense, but Taysom Hill has my interest. I don't know that I'm going back to MBS, but he's only 4400, so I don't hate that play. If, if you're playing Kamara as a run back, I think you can play maybe an additional person or you could just get out of Alvin Kamara and. And just go contrarian with somebody else. Is there another saint that you like and make. I'm going to ask you the same question.
Guest Analyst
You know, for me there's not. If you want to take shots in mbs, like sure got big upside. Taysom clearly has upside and a pretty big negative correlation with Kamara. So I don't. The way I would elect to do it personally is there's a number of great plays on this slate. So if I'm looking to get a little different, I'm just not gonna have a bring back here personally. And then if you're really worried about it, bet Taysom Hill anytime. Touchdown. I mean, there's no path to Taysom Hill hurting you without him scoring. Right. Just because of the volume. There's. There's no path. So like if you're super worried about it, I think it's the best option here.
Mike McClure
Alvin Kamara is going to get his touches, Meg. But I do like the negative correlation part where you. You just skip out on Alvin Kamara, you pay up for a different running back and you play Taysom Hill and just hope somehow he gets like one or two touchdowns near the goal line. Any thoughts on Taysom or anybody else on the same side?
Meg Shaughnessy
I totally get the case for taste them. I personally like cheaper tight ends more that I think I'm going to get to just to then obviously jant like again what it allows you do in your lineup situation. So don't know that I'll do it. But I totally get the case for Taysom. So I'm kind of with Mike. Don't see myself forcing a run back in this situation. Even though I love the Jamis side.
Mike McClure
Okay, we all love the Jameis side. Let's go to another side, Meg, that I think you like quite a bit. So we're going to start with you. Ravens at the Steelers. Ravens given three points. Both these teams pretty high total here. 48 points, 26 points or so 23 points for the Steelers in terms of implied totals. Meg, I know you like a stack in this game.
Meg Shaughnessy
Yes, I do. I absolutely love Russell Wilson to George Pickens. And listen, we know to attack the Baltimore Ravens secondary. We saw it on Thursday night. I'm not saying he's going to put up Joe Burrow numbers, but, like, let's make no mistake. Since Russ has started, he's been putting up really good numbers. I believe. What above 260 and two touchdowns. At least in all three games. I believe he's putting up the numbers and I think he could absolutely exceed that. I. You can't run on the Ravens. I know the Steelers like to be run heavy, but they're a very smart coaching staff. So I think they'll lean into the strengths and lean into those beautiful moon balls from Russ to Pickens. So I'm in on that. You can even throw Mike Williams or, you know, a cheaper other pass option if you want to double stack it. Because we know Russ doesn't have much running, you know, upside anymore. But. But again, those beautiful moon balls are there and I'm all over Russ and Pickens and potentially another third pass, catch, pass catcher.
Mike McClure
Mike, I understand the argument for stacking this game playing Russ, Lamar Pickens, Zay. I gotta be honest, though. I look at this total, I think it's a little high for this division matchup where these teams really know each other. I kind of like the under. And if so much ownership is going to come in here, because I think Meg's right about her analysis on Russell Wilson. I think people have seen George Pickens enough lately to want to play him. Zay Flowers ownership looks to be way higher than I thought it would, to be honest with you. Maybe that. Maybe that curbs as we go through the week. I don't necessarily mind getting off of this game. What are your thoughts on it?
Guest Analyst
Yeah, I don't have a ton of interest in this game outside of Mark Andrews. Mark Andrews at 4, 600. I. You can sign me up for some of that in this particular matchup. So when I look at everything in this game, like, Pickens has been phenomenal. Russ has been phenomenal. I just. I think the clock's going to be moving here and I could be very wrong on the Russ to Pickens thing. Like, I don't. It's got a ton of upside at 7k, I'm probably out on Pickens and he would fall simply into that category where if the ownership steams high enough, where I would have to bet his anytime touchdown as a hedge. Again, I think he's another player that is unlikely to pay off his price tag without a touchdown. Just it's very possible he gets there on volume, but he's mostly getting there on big play volume. You know, he's had nine targets against the jets only doing some of this stuff on five or seven targets. So for me that's my only concern here. But as far as pieces in this game, the only thing I'm getting to is Mark Andrews.
Mike McClure
Meg, if you're playing Russ and George Pickens, are you forcing a run back here like a Mark Andrews or Zay or even maybe an expensive Derrick Henry? Or is this one of those situations where you just grab those two pieces on the Pittsburgh side and you get out?
Meg Shaughnessy
I'm not forcing it by any means, but I will consider Mark Andrews and I'm also going to consider Derek Henry. We've learned this our, you know, been playing DFS for 10 plus years. You play Derek Henry when he's low and he looks to be incredibly low on this week because we don't know when he's going to he could pop up for 102 any given week. The mat. You know, again we know he's very game script dependent but he's not really matchup dependent. He can bust off an ADR run at any given moment. So it looks like he's coming in sub 5% owned. So I do find that interesting. Now there is going to be opportunity costs if he doesn't get there. It's going to hurt bad. So you need him to get all the way there with probably again 102. But again it's always in Derek Henry's range of outcomes and in his bag. Especially if somehow Baltimore gets out ahead and Steelers are then playing from behind and that works to my favor of that script. So I'm considering just because of the ownership situation.
Mike McClure
It's the Tyree Kill argument all over again. Like these guys, regardless of the matchup have the potential to go for two touchdowns in a hundred plus yards. And if everybody's like well Keaton Mitchell's back, it's a tough matchup division, you know, Henry's not gonna get a certain number of yards or touchdown. Looks like that's when in tournaments at least you're going to want to consider guys like that because everybody else is is too shy to play them. All right, let's go to the Rams and the Patriots. I kind of chuckle to myself because I just mentioned that Mike I kind of like The Drake May 5600K. Sean Booty, 3500. Now, I'll concede I like the Jameis Winston one a little bit better. But if I'm tying. Drake made a case on Booty. He's 3500, whereas Cedric Tillman's 5300. I think I might be trying to get, like, too cute here, and maybe I just need to come off of this one. But there is the potential that the Rams play from, you know, the lead this whole game, and we're looking at Drake May running and passing. I think you could play Drake May naked as well. Am I way off base here?
Guest Analyst
No, you're not. I'm not gonna do it. But I. I'm, as you guys know, I'm extremely stubborn in the way I play. Like, I play a very narrow, narrow player pool. And, yeah, I'm not going to include anything here personally, other than Kyron Williams. Kyron Williams, I think, is one of the best pivots to Alvin Kamara on this slate. I. I think that he. He's going to be heavily involved here in this particular matchup. So I think the Rams should take care of business. It's an outdoor game. I just think they feed him the ball. What was encouraging, despite his production, they were terrible in that game against Miami. He got involved in the passing game a bit there, so he does. That does change things a little bit for me. So I like Kyron Williams quite a bit. Here would be a direct pivot for Kamara for me.
Mike McClure
Okay, Meg, I want to ask you about, I mean, Ramondre's 6100 for the record, Keishan Booty. It's a little speculative on my part, but you look at the targets since Drake May has played in games. I mean, he's getting, I think, six targets a game. He's catching a handful of them. I think the. I think it's almost like a poor man, Cedric Tillman situation where there is upside there and he is getting at least enough volume to potentially have a decent enough floor. And he's 3, 500. And on a slate where everybody seems so expensive and there's not a ton of value outside of some of the stacks that we talked about. I just think he's interesting to incorporate in the lineup. With all that said, the other side of the ball is Puka. Nakua has Cooper Cup. Kyron Williams. Is this a game you're interested in? It's only a 43 and a half point total. Anybody you're playing?
Meg Shaughnessy
Yeah. First of all, I don't know that I'll get there.
Guest Analyst
But I don't.
Meg Shaughnessy
I don't mind your Drake may call out. I like it, you know, again, because what he's doing with his legs too, at that price. So. And then with the Keisha booty, I don't mind that either. Again, just price and we need to save money. But in this game, the savings I'm really looking at is Davis Allen at tight end. Fullman price 2.5k that he seems to. We kind of jumped Parkinson as the tight end got what, six targets on Monday night. And at 2.5 K. I don't care if it's chalky. It lets me. It's what it lets me do. And we've seen a lot of chalky cheap tight ends help us do what we need to do. And so there's a couple of them that I'm interested in, but he's one of them. And again, I like Mike's call on Kyron Williams, of course, in this matchup, you know, game script, etc, definitely interested. So Kyren Williams, Davis Allen, my two main plays in this game. And then I don't mind the May stack or just Mace Solo.
Mike McClure
Davis speculative, but it makes sense. And you're right, he is emerging as the guy that seems to be the tight end one and he's 2500. We're trying to find value, right? And I think that is a pretty good play this game. I mean, again, k Sean Moody Speculative, 3500. Davis Allen A little speculative, 2500. They make things work that even if they bottom out a little bit, you might have just gathered enough upside at the other positions where it might not matter as much as you think. All right, let's move on to the next game. This is the last 1:00 game. Yeah, it is. It's the Colts underwhelming. It's the jets underwhelming. We've got a 43 and a half point total. Somehow the jets are favored by four, which is a little shocking to me. Anthony Richardson playing in this game, which from a DFS standpoint is at least a little interesting. He's only 5,300. I'm more interested Meg and Jonathan Taylor at 7,600. I'm going to be over the market on Jonathan Taylor. We know you can run on the Jets. I think he's going to get some passing work as well. And I think Anthony Richardson certainly helps up open up some lanes for. For Jonathan Taylor. I'm not interested in the receivers on that side. Breeze hall, interesting to me on the jets side, what do you like in this game, Meg?
Meg Shaughnessy
Yeah, basically both running backs in this game, actually. Jonathan Taylor, the receivers for the Colts kind of get a downgrade, but Jonathan Taylor gets an upgrade with Richardson back in. So definitely like Jonathan Taylor and Breeze Hall. We know you can run on the Colts as well. So I like both the running backs in this game, basically, and that's it.
Mike McClure
Okay. Okay. Kirk Schroer says he likes the jets defense. I can see that. I mean, Anthony Richardson has been a turnover machine, but this jets defense, Mike, not great. What are we playing in this one?
Guest Analyst
Yeah, it's Jonathan Taylor for me. Jets down to 28th in the NFL in terms of EPA per play against the rush. Jonathan Taylor should be locked in for 20 plus touches in this game still. So I know there's always going to be some concern about touchdown equity at the goal line when you've changed to the mobile quarterback, but for me, I, I think that Jonathan Taylor gets one and it may not come from inside the 20.
Mike McClure
Do you end up getting there with Breeze Hall? I mean, I'm sure he's in your player pool, but I, I can't imagine like we're going to do your top three running backs. I can't imagine Breeze is in your top three. Right.
Guest Analyst
So he's not in the top three. I don't mind it. I don't think he's touching the football 25 times. And I think there are three running backs that are on the slate, so maybe four. Four. So I'm not anxious to get him in there. Like, I think it's fine. I think the game's going to be competitive and it's at the point in the season where if the jets go down, the jets are going down with the football and Aaron Rodgers hands. So if you want to be speculative and bet is, you know, over three and a half or four and a half receipt receptions, I think that's fine. But I, I don't love him in DFS this week.
Mike McClure
Okay. Yeah. A lot of other great running backs to consider, including the one we're going to get to in my favorite game, San Francisco and Seattle. We're going to, we're going to break that game down. That's our 4 o'clock slate. We have three games there that we get to our cheat sheets and of course Mike's top three each position. But let's hear a message from our partners.
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Mike McClure
Shopify.com Odyssey podcast we're back on fantasy football today DFS. We go to the 4 o'clock slate 405 reminder. If you haven't signed up for the DFS contest, it's in the link. It'll be in the podcast description as well. It's only $5. A 200 person DFS contest. The top 20 get paid out. And another reminder, if you're watching us on Twitter and you want to jump into the chat, go to the Fantasy Football Today YouTube channel and jump in. Hit the like button. I'm sure you already subscribed to this channel as so many are all right, Seattle at San Francisco. This is a pretty big spread, but it makes sense, right? The Niners favored by around six and a half. It's a 48 point total. The Niners implied for around 27 points. Mike, I start with you. My favorite stack in this game is Brock Purdy to kind of anyone, but I'll just pick the cheap guy and juwan Jennings at 5300. I think you can play Brock Purdy naked with Christian McCaffrey however you want to play it. Obviously some run backs in play, including DK Metcalf who was healthy. How are we playing this game Mike?
Guest Analyst
Yeah, I'm playing Purdy. He's definitely one of the top three QBs. For me. I'm playing McCaffrey in nearly every lineup. It's all systems go. They've got to win all these games. This is the most important game, frankly. And I'm most excited about him in the passing game. You watch that Tampa game. I know Tampa sometimes can be a bit of a pass funnel, but that's where he's going to be most effective. I know he's always been good running between the tackles and just anywhere. But how you win with Christian McCaffrey is getting him the football in space and letting him work his magic. So for me, every Purdy lineup actually includes McCaffrey and then I will have a couple with Debo and then a couple with Jennings. But I think this is a decent Debo Samuel week.
Mike McClure
Meg, you know, we like to play the afternoon slate, right? And a lot of people do, but a lot of people just aren't aware of it. They, they're just, they've got a main slate, sort of one track mind situation going. It's a three game afternoon slate and I've. I haven't made the lineup yet. I don't even know if the afternoon slate's available quite yet. It probably is, but I'm going to be playing like Mike said, Brock Purdy, Christian McCaffrey, Juwan Jennings. I mean, that's getting a little expensive. I'll have a run back and then I'll probably play some low end options which we're going to get to in this Falcons Broncos game. And I might even just be completely out on the afternoon slate in Chiefs, Bills, just. We'll talk about why later. I just love this Niner side. Do you love it as much as we do? And are you playing anybody on the Seattle side?
Meg Shaughnessy
Yeah, I absolutely love the Niners side. I love approaching it with the late slate. Just onslaughting the Niners onslaughting this game if you want. So, yeah, definitely all over. Purdy's in my top three quarterbacks as well. Love the Purdy stacks. You can mix them up. As Mike said, do like Jennings as the cheapest option and do like CMC and all of them. And I just, I think CMC is the chalk by this week. Absolutely love them. In this matchup you can certainly attack Seattle with the running backs on the ground or in the passing game. And we saw how involved he was in the passing game and again there was like no slow ramp up for him. He's back. He is fully back so very excited about playing mcaffrey this week.
Mike McClure
Okay. On the Seattle side, is it, I mean DK Metcalf, I mean my eyes are like getting big right now. 6500 I, I mean I'm assuming he's fully healthy and that's a dangerous assumption. But is he going to be the key run back? JSN also 6500 I mean if I'm choosing between the two now that DK is healthy, I'm going that direction. I'll mention Tyler Lockett. 5800. You know, AJ Barner, 3100. Noah Fan, 3700 and then Kenneth Walker. 7K. Are, are you gonna, and Mike, I'm gonna ask you the same question. Are you gonna have a run back in this game or are you just gonna like kind of stay away from all of that?
Guest Analyst
So I'm not forcing run backs here. To me there, there's a wide range here. I, I honestly I think San Francisco could win this game by double digits to be honest with you. The, the thing about it is is that I, I like San Francisco. It's go time for them. They've got to win these games and just having CMC back, I think that they're going to be able to really keep that Seattle defense on the field for a long time and ultimately wear them down. So I, I think they just, they score 30 plus points in this game and I'm mostly focused there without the bring back. But again it's mostly price points and mostly some of the other players that I want to play. So I, I, I'm not going to be running bring backs here. I can't fault you if you want to, but I don't have any bring backs currently.
Mike McClure
Meg, any bring backs for you?
Meg Shaughnessy
Main slate? No. 4pm yes. Because again 4pm I think you can just onslaught this game.
Mike McClure
Yeah. Okay.
Meg Shaughnessy
And it would be, it would be DK Metcalf for me. You could also do Walker. I actually and this was a what a Thursday night game. I was able to hit a parlay late with a Walker receptions and over his receiving yards and it was super fun because they ended up targeting him like a total of eight or nine times that game. So we know Gino is going to be throwing a lot. He's going to have to, don't know that I'll get to that side. But you can certainly incorporate Walker metcalf in those 4 o'clock onslaught if you.
Mike McClure
Do same game parlays. I think this is a really good environment to get involved in some overs. I'll tell you right now a bet I'm going to give out on CBS sports network at 12 o'clock today. We're going to be on talking A lot of NFL is so I like brock Purdy over one and a half touchdowns. The problem is it's minus 150 generally. I'm not trying to pay minus 150 but if you parlay that with San Francisco Moneyline you're getting like +110. Again, I'm not a parlay guy. I don't love doing stuff like that necessarily. But if I really love the over one and a half touchdown passes certainly correlated with San Francisco winning and I think they're going to win regardless of whether he gets that prop or not. Mike, go ahead.
Guest Analyst
Yeah, just I want to address a question in the chat real quick. Would I play Debo and CMC alone? So yes, kind of I would play either. I'm gonna play CMC without Purdy a lot. I'll play Debo without Purdy. I would not play both of them together without Purdy. Now that might sound like duh obviously, but there are guys that we'll talk about later that I would so I'll give you a little spoiler. Like I think you can get away with playing Travis Kelsey DeAndre Hopkins without Patrick Mahomes because of where the volume is and their price points. But because of the price points on CMC and Debo you are needing way more ceiling to where you do want Purdy there. So I would play them individually without him but not together without him.
Mike McClure
Great question, Jeffrey. Great Insight from Mike McClure. Cool cooler hand says Ramon Dre is greater than Breeze this week. Also 1400 cheaper. I wanted to get to that comment. Thank you for for making those comments. Cooler hand. All right, let's get to before we get to that Bills Kansas City game, let's get to the Falcons and the Broncos. I like the Broncos. I put this pick out on Sports line. I got the Broncos money line on Monday at minus 120. That's grown. The line has grown to minus 2 1/2 44 point total. I think Bo Nicks is interesting if you want to get contrarian on like an afternoon slate. Meg but my favorite play in this game, you know, because I don't think Atlanta offense is going to play very well. Bajan Robinson will be probably pretty contrarian this week relative to some of the other running backs we talked about. But Audrey Estimate yes, speculative. But if you have to force in a low end running back he would be the one to force in. He's only 4500 and it looks like maybe not definitely, but maybe he's taken over that running back position in terms of getting the bulk of the carries. Do you like that and is there anything in this game that you like?
Meg Shaughnessy
Yeah, those were the two main ones that I had written down. The two running backs. B John Robinson if you're paying up Audra Gaston if you're just need salary saving at the running back position because he kind of somewhat took it over last week having I believe over 50% of the rush of the carry. So yeah, I definitely have interest in estimate just again for what it allows you to do. Hopefully he gets those goal line carries and gets in. Gets in the end zone to help you there.
Mike McClure
Mike, any interest in estimating is this a scratch off game or. I mean, listen, the Falcons offense, if, if they're the Falcons offense, which I don't think they will be against Denver mainly because of their pass rush in their back end. A guy like Bajan Robinson could go off. Drake London, Darnell mooney, I mean, mooney, 6600. I just have no interest on that Atlanta side. How about you?
Guest Analyst
Yeah, I've been no interest here. It's total, total no play in this game for me.
Mike McClure
Okay, so estimate probably out too.
Guest Analyst
Yeah, for me personally, but again, I'm. I'm playing Christian McCaffrey in every single lineup, so.
Mike McClure
Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. Okay. Estimate with that Broncos defense could be an interesting look. Just throwing that out there. All right, let's get to Kansas City. Buffalo. Again, I kind of mentioned Mike. I'm not super interested in this game. We'll have to see how the receiver position shakes out on the Buffalo side because it could be like the Mac Hollins show at 3800. We know Keon Coleman's not playing. I don't think Dalton Kincaid is playing, but I guess we have to wait for more news on that. That Amari Cooper still banged up. I'm guessing him and Shakira are playing, but either way I'm just not super interested. I'm not interested in Cook against this rush defense on Kansas City. And I don't think I'm getting to the other side either because I respect this Bill's defense. What say you, Kansas City? Buffalo?
Guest Analyst
Yeah, I think we are definitely opposite here. I am extremely optimistic on Kansas City's offense, but mostly because I think the game's going to be very competitive and it wouldn't shock me if Kansas City's trailing and we haven't really seen too much of that. Right. But it's, it's a volume play at this point. Number one, Travis Kelsey is the biggest free square of the entire week at 6,300. Travis Kelsey the last three games since the injuries that have really plagued this team. Right. 12, 16 and 12. That is 13.3 targets a game. That is wide receiver one in the NFL. Fun fact. You know, Justin Jefferson only has one game of double digit targets this season.
Mike McClure
Wow.
Guest Analyst
One, there's no one else remotely close in the NFL, particularly on this slate in terms of target volume for Travis Kelsey. He is, for me, he grades out as an 8, 500 player. You can buy him at 6, 300 because he is a tight end. Patrick Mahomes got to talk about him as well. Again, competitive game. That's where you want them. 42, 44 and 38 are the past attempts. The last three games. That is 41 passing attempts per game. We talked about Jameis Winston 87 over the last two. Not all passing attempts are created equally. Patrick Holmes is still a better quarterback than, than Jamis. And then the Buffalo side, I think all the bring backs. Right. So I am with you. I think Kincaid is not going to play and if he does, he's not going to finish this game. He was in brutal shape in that last one. So I love Dawson Knox who is a great receiving tight end. They've had troubles with him in some of the run game. That's really what's kept him off the field at times. And then I like Curtis Samuel here as well. He to me projects as someone that could rack up points in a back and forth game. So I think Buffalo has no shot running the football against Kansas City and I think that's fine because I think they're going to let them put the game on Josh Allen's shoulders. He's going to throw the ball, you know, 40 times in this game probably. So I like all the cheap Buffalo pieces as bring backs, but Kelsey and Hopkins just absolute locks to me.
Mike McClure
Curtis Samuel 3300. Dawson Knox 3500. Well, Meg, listen, part of the reason I love this show is because first of all, I mean, I will say Mike is a guru in general, but certainly as close to the Kansas City situation as a big fan of that team. But those stats don't lie, right? Like that's pretty impressive that it grades out at 8,500, but he's only 6,300. And it makes sense because of the targets. Are you. I guess, I guess I'm in on Travis Kelce now are you in on Travis Kelsey and do you like anything else in this game?
Meg Shaughnessy
It would have to be a two tight end build for me and obviously in treating him like a receiver. So yes, if you're treating Kelsey like a receiver, then then yes. But other than that, no, not really. I think this is giving me. Obviously it's the real life game. There's actually a few real good real life games that we're all excited about this week, but this is the real life game that everybody's watching fantasy wise, you know, prop betting wise. I don't know that it's. It's really got me very excited. So I don't know that I'll get too much other than if you wanted to treat Kelsey like a receiver and Dawson Knox I talked about I want to play cheap tight ends. The other cheap tight end outside of Davis Allen was Dawson Knox. The only way you can really attack the Chiefs or the best way to attack the Chiefs is tight ends are kind of it's like a tight end funnel and that's the way to get there. So DAWSON Knox at 3,000 is. And you know, a comfortable target for Josh Allen is a look that I like and I definitely am going to be playing plenty of him just for salary savings.
Mike McClure
Go ahead, Mike.
Guest Analyst
Yeah, I would say that's an extension of. That is kind of why I like Curtis Samuel the most here. They use him in a number of ways. That essentially becomes an extension of the run game. And if they've got some issues with receiver depth down the field, potentially if Cooper doesn't play or if he is banged up, I think that this could be one where they get the ball out quick and we could be seeing a solid game from Curtis Samuel here. Very speculative, obviously, but it comes with a price point of 3,300.
Mike McClure
Okay, let's get to our cheat sheets. Got a few minutes left to cover. Meg, we're going to start with you. Your favorite stack, your chalk by chalk fade contrarian and value play.
Meg Shaughnessy
Yes. So my favorite. Oh, sorry, I had the wrong page up. My favorite favorite stack. I've talked about Russell Wilson, George Pickens. Let's see that moon ball again against this bad record Raven secondary Talked by Christian McCaffrey. Mike said he's in every lineup. Same for me. Love it. I think he's totally worth the price. And the chalk chalk fade. Amon Ross, Saint Brown. I'm seeing a lot of ownership on him. Again, he has not really had a ceiling game yet because they just have so Many weapons to go to. So my Katurian play is in that same game with Steelers Ravens and I don't know that I'll do a lot but I just want to make a case for the time you want to play Derek Henry is when he's under 5% owned. And again you could still get 102 in this game. Eckler had two touchdowns last week so Derek Henry would be my contrarian play and then value Davis, Allen, Dawson, Knox, any cheap tight end. You know there are a few of them under, you know, 3.5k that I'm interested in. Those two being the biggest ones.
Mike McClure
Okay, we'll get to my cheat sheet but before we do, Travis Kelsey, Kirk Troy wants to know Mike Travis Kelsey has a six and a half receptions line at minus 114. Your thoughts on that?
Guest Analyst
I'm not. You couldn't talk me into the under for. For really anything. So yeah, over or nothing there. I would say six is going to be the floor but again, looking at the usage recently. Yes, 10, 14 and 8 or his last three games of receptions.
Mike McClure
Amazing. All right, let's get to my cheat sheet. I mentioned it. Purdy to Jennings is where I'm headed. At least that's my primary stack. 6,600 to 5,300. My chalk buy is going to be Jonathan Taylor. He's not super chalky. There's plenty. There's like three, four, five, six running backs might be more owned than him, but I really like him at 7600. Z Flowers is going to be my chalk fade. I think I'm maybe just kind of getting out of that game in general. My contrarian play is David Montgomery at 6500. He's going to need a couple touchdowns probably to really hit that ceiling. But I think that is. It's a nice matchup for him to do that certainly in a nice game script. And then my value play I'll go audra estimate at 4,500 and kan booty at 3,500. All right, Mike, top three at each position. We'll start at quarterback.
Guest Analyst
Brock Purdy, James Winston and Patrick Mahomes. Brock Purdy. I love the matchup. I don't think Seattle's that good defensively. I think this game just bleeds a lot of yardage and points. Just when you. When you've got the weapons that San Francisco does. Jameis Winston, it's the price point and the matchup against the Saints it's the very cheap stack and just the passing attempts again, 47 or I mean, excuse me, 87 passing attempts in the last two games. The games that he started. And then Patrick Mahomes. 42, 44, 38 are the passing attempts. Great opportunity for Kansas City to lock up the number one seed against Buffalo. This is essentially a playoff game and one where I think the Chiefs can get pushed. Like the Chiefs. Being behind in this game would be a great thing for Patrick Mahomes and dfs. So I like Purdy, Winston and Mahomes.
Mike McClure
All right. And we have a Chief as one of your running backs. But let's start with Christian McCaffrey.
Guest Analyst
Yeah. CMC to me, another basic free square look. He's going to be popular. He's not expensive enough. He's healthy. I love him in this matchup. Devon Hn, number two. I think I was pretty encouraged despite the result of that game and just not having the passing yardage. I think this is a much different story. I think he has whatever he wants against the Raiders. And then Kareem Hunt. Just the volume and the price point. I think he's going to be involved against Buffalo. They we've seen him touch the football 20 plus times pretty much every week.
Mike McClure
Top three receivers.
Guest Analyst
Cedric Tillman listed number one. Mostly because of the stacking and the price point. I think there are a number of paths to him having a really, really fine game. Number two, Jacoby Myers. I didn't talk about him too much there, but the volume. He's essentially like Travis Kelsey recently. He's getting all the volume. He's getting more volume than Justin Jefferson. I know he's not Justin Jefferson, but I do think that this is a good matchup for him and I think that he's going to really be involved. And then the price point, he's just so cheap. Right. And then number three, DeAndre Hopkins. Look, one more time with Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes again, averaging 41 attempts over the last three games with this guy in the lineup. Most of these attempts are going to Travis Kelsey and DeAndre Hopkins. DeAndre Hopkins is dangerous in the red zone. Give me DeAndre Hopkins here.
Mike McClure
All right. And then finally we've got another Chief. Let's talk tight ends.
Guest Analyst
Yeah. Big on this Kansas City passing game. Normally Kansas City, you don't know where some of the usage is going that's different. Right now we know exactly where this football is going in these, in this spot. Travis Kelsey, Mark Andrews and Dawson Knox. Mark Andrews, this to me projects as a game where he could have some success against the Steelers defense, especially in the play action.
Meg Shaughnessy
Game.
Guest Analyst
If they try and stop the run with Eric Henry and then Dawson Knox, I think Buffalo is going to have to throw the football a lot and I think Kincaid could sit this game.
Mike McClure
All right, well, we got. Let's. Let's do this in 60 seconds. Meg. Washington plus three and a half tonight on Thursday Night Football. Football. Do they cover? Do they win?
Meg Shaughnessy
Unfortunately, I don't think they win tonight. It's been an exciting season for us, but tonight is not the game that I'm siding with our commanders.
Mike McClure
Do they cover, though?
Meg Shaughnessy
I don't. I don't think they do.
Mike McClure
Fair enough. All right. All right. Hey, that's okay, Mike. If you're playing showdown.
Meg Shaughnessy
Bums me out to say it, but I hear you.
Mike McClure
I hear you. If you're playing showdown, like there's a lot of superstars in this one. I know you probably haven't run your simulations yet, but. But anybody that's important to your lineups or maybe a particular construction.
Guest Analyst
Yeah, I mean, it's tough when you've got so many high price players. I. I think Saquon will have some success. AJ Brown's clearly going to be very interesting just because of the deep threat, the deep threat that exists. I think we could see some kickers again involved. I like Jake Elliott a little bit in this one. Other plays, let's see. Yeah, I'm mostly going to be way more on Eagles onslaughts than anything.
Mike McClure
Yeah, I see your point there. I think A.J. brown, Jaden Daniels might be captains for me and then I'll just fill it out from there. All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us. Make sure you're subscribed to our fantasy football today DFS podcast. Make sure you subscribe and review if you can. But again, let's have a great week 11 on behalf of Mike McClure, on behalf of Make Shop, and of course, NADA on the ones and twos. My name is Sienna John. This is Fantasy Football Today dfs. We'll see you next Thursday.
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Fantasy Football Today Podcast Summary
Episode Title: NFL DFS Week 11 Preview: Main Slate Lineups, Picks, Stacks and Ownership (FFT DFS)
Release Date: November 15, 2024
Hosts: Adam Aizer, Dave Richard, Jamey Eisenberg, Heath Cummings, Mike McClure, Meg Shaughnessy
Guest Analyst: (Name not specified in transcript)
Knowledge Cutoff: October 2023
Introduction
In the Week 11 episode of "Fantasy Football Today," hosts Mike McClure and Meg Shaughnessy, along with guest analyst, delve deep into the intricacies of Daily Fantasy Sports (DFS), providing listeners with comprehensive previews of the upcoming NFL slate. The discussion emphasizes lineup strategies, player picks, stacking methods, and ownership projections to help enthusiasts dominate their leagues.
Overview of Week 11 Slate
Mike McClure opens the discussion at [02:37] by highlighting the expansion from a 10-game slate the previous week to an 11-game slate this week. The hosts promise rapid-fire analysis, covering eight games in the 1 PM slot and three in the 4 PM slot. They encourage listener engagement through live chats and promote their FFT DFS Week 11 contest, emphasizing its accessibility and payout structure.
Key Points:
Detailed Matchup Analyses
Packers vs. Bears
Timestamp: [03:50 – 05:00]
The Packers vs. Bears game is assessed as having limited DFS appeal due to low projected scoring and team turmoil.
Conclusion: Limited value with possible focus on the Packers' defensive plays or contrarian picks like Josh Jacobs.
Jacksonville vs. Detroit
Timestamp: [05:00 – 07:45]
With an implied total of 47 points, this matchup presents mixed DFS opportunities.
Conclusion: David Montgomery emerges as the primary contrarian pick, while other options remain limited due to the diversified Rosters and inconsistent performances.
Raiders vs. Dolphins
Timestamp: [07:45 – 10:14]
With a lower implied total of 25.5 points, the focus shifts to individual player performances.
Conclusion: Devin Hn and Johnny Smith are recommended for their potential upside in a low-scoring game.
Vikings vs. Titans
Timestamp: [10:14 – 12:25]
This matchup is deemed uninteresting for DFS due to balanced defenses and lackluster offensive prospects.
Conclusion: Minimal DFS interest; best to bypass this game.
Player Picks and Strategies
Contrarian Plays
Value Plays
Stacking Strategies
High-Ownership Players
Ownership Projections
Additional Insights and Tips
Conclusion
The Week 11 preview on "Fantasy Football Today" offers a wealth of strategies and player insights tailored for DFS enthusiasts aiming to optimize their lineups. By focusing on contrarian plays, value selections, and effective stacking, listeners are equipped to navigate the expanded 11-game slate with confidence. The emphasis on ownership projections and game script analysis further empowers participants to make informed decisions, enhancing their chances of dominating their fantasy leagues.
Notable Quotes:
Final Thoughts
"Fantasy Football Today" continues to be an indispensable resource for DFS participants, blending expert analysis with actionable strategies. Whether you're a seasoned veteran or a newcomer aiming to gain the upper hand, this episode's detailed breakdown equips you with the knowledge to make informed and strategic decisions for Week 11.