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NFL DFS Week 17 Preview: Main Slate Lineups, Picks, Stacks and Ownership
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Kyle Long
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Mike McClure
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Kyle Long
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Mike McClure
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Meg Shoup
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Kyle Long
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Kyle Long
Service fees and terms apply. What's up everybody? Happy holidays and welcome to Fantasy Football Today DFS. As usual, I am joined on Thursday at 11:00 by Meg Shoup and Mike McClure. We've got an eight game slate. We're going to talk about that like we always do. Go game by game. 6 at 1:00, 2 at 4:05, 4, 25 and then we're going to talk about the three game slate for a few minutes at the end of the show. Meg, how you doing? How's your holiday season going so far?
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Meg Shoup
Yeah, holiday season is great. Happy holidays to everybody as well. And I got a nice bonus that I have a best ball finals team on underdog as well as a marathon that's one of the underdog season long format on best ball sweat. So I have two weeks, week 17 sweat. So I'm very happy.
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Kyle Long
That is interesting. We'll be on standby waiting for that. Mike, how's your holiday season going so far?
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Mike McClure
Very, very good. See I had a great, great day yesterday in dfs, the small two game slate. But what was heavy on the right guys? A lot of Xavier Worthy obviously a lot of Derrick Henry nailed the defense. It was just a great, great, great slate for two games. So nice to roll into the weekend where it feels like we have a slate essentially every day now.
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Kyle Long
That's right. And we got a three game slate Saturday and eight games slate on Sunday. I did well too. I made some money. Not, not as much as I felt like I should have, but I made some money on the two game slate. I actually had Derek Henry and Xavier Worthy in every lineup so that certainly helped. Patrick Mahomes was pretty good too. I had Lamar. Anyway, I digress. I like these short slates and as we do this fantasy football today DFS show, we are going to be more and more focused on those short slates as as we get to the playoffs because those are obviously automatically short slates. All right, let's get to the eight game slate. Let's start with one. And by the way, the contest, it's already in the chat. It'll be in the YouTube description. It's only $5. Definitely join that contest if you can for week 17. That will be just to be super clear, that will be on the eight game main slate as opposed to the Saturday slate. So just keep that in mind. But let's get to Panthers, Buccaneers. I think this is a really interesting game to start with Mike and Meg because hey, I mean we got a high total. It's in that 48 and a half range here. You know, mostly we have to monitor weather as we get close to kickoff for all these games because of the time of year. But I don't think weather is going to be a huge concern here and the total is reflecting that. Mike, I'm going to start with you. There's a lot I like here. I know Meg is a fan of a stack in this game. It's hard for me to reduce it to, like, one or two players here, so I'm just going to give you sort of a blank slate here. Do you like in this one?
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Mike McClure
You know, there's a lot of little pieces that I like. I really like Buck Irving here. I think he's clearly going to be extremely popular, but I'm actually getting it all the way up to where the number is. So for some perspective on it, I'm showing him basically coming in around 35 to 40% owned, and that's how often I'm getting him. When I tell the computer to build, you know, 5,000 lineups, he's showing up that often still. So I think he's a great play into ownership. Love Chuba Hubbard as well, but I think it's still Mike Evans. I think you could play Adam Thielen. I think you could play a lot on both sides because I think Carolina is finally to the point where they can push. We've seen it a number of times, and we know that this Tampa Bay offense is going to be able to move the football, but defensively, there's such a pass funnel. There should be a lot of passing volume in this game, and if it's not efficient, it's not the end of the world because it's a stopped clock and the ball coming back to the Bucks side. So I like this game a lot. I think a lot of people are going to like it. But core piece number one for me here is clearly going to be Bucky Irving.
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Kyle Long
Yeah, Bucky Irving. A core piece for me as well. Meg, you've got a core stack in this one, though. I kind of. I mean, I'm not going to spoil anything. Of course, we give out our cheat sheets and Mike's top three at each position. This game will have some featured elements of that. What do you like in this one?
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Meg Shoup
Quite honestly, I like the stacks on both sides. I like Bryce Young to Adam Thielen. I like, of course, Baker Mayfield to Mike Evans. We see Baker's using his legs more this season, which is an added bonus for us. And then obviously, their backs are absolutely against the wall after loss last week. So, you know, I think we always know Baker can play with his hair on fire. And as Mike mentioned, we have the push back now that you used to worry about with Carolina. You know, Bryce Young's playing well, so we have the pushback. So I honestly like the stacks on both sides, and of course, I like Bucky Irving. I think you can Add Chubba Hubbard to your player pool for sure. So, and I think you could add Bucky Irving to a Baker Mike Evans stack as well. So really, like a lot in this game.
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Kyle Long
I'm going to ask you both a question here because Jaylen McMillan is starting to come on. He's only 4600. I mean, we have, we have Kate Otten at 4002 and then of course, Bucky Irving. Like, you know, Meg, I'm going to start with you. Baker to Evans, I think that's like the stack that makes the most sense. I do think there's other ways to play this though, especially on, on a somewhat shorter slate where fading Evans kind of sounds silly when I say it out loud, but maybe Baker, Bucky, and you throw in Jalen McMillan and you have a piece or two coming back. Meg, I just wanted to ask you, in terms of stacking, you don't have to respond to that specific stack, but we know Bucky catches some passes too, and he's super dynamic in the open field. What are some other ways you would stack this outside of Baker? Mike?
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Meg Shoup
Well, I think you could stack it the way you just said, and I think you can certainly to the Buck stack, like I said, add Bucky or to, like you said, add Jalen McMillan. He's definitely the number two receiver now, so I like that a lot. And then again, I'm willing to bring it back with, you know, Adam Thielen. You could do Jalen Coker, you can do Chubba Hubbard. Again, there's so many pieces in this game that I like.
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Kyle Long
Mike, your thoughts on an alternative way to stack Baker Mayfield?
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Mike McClure
I would play him with Bucky Irving. I just again, try to look for. I know it's tough with that offense because of the other backs and everything, but I do think in the scenario that you get a tournament winning lineup from Baker, it's likely one that's using a little bit of Bucky Irving to really drive up that yardage total in that passing game. So I like stacking those two together and really capitalizing on just offensive production there. Yeah, that looks like I've got a little bit of the news here that we don't know yet. Unfortunately, that will matter is Kate Otten status if he plays at 4200. I think you're going to want to include him in a lot of your Baker Mayfield stuff. If he doesn't play. I, I think it just solidifies Buck Irving's role in the passing game even more. So a little too early to tell there, but Monitor the Kate Otten situation. I think it is truly a coin flip at this point. Like, I do not have a strong take one way or the other.
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Kyle Long
Let me ask you this, Mike. If you're doing the Baker Bucky stuff, because this reminds me of earlier in the season when Christian McCaffrey was healthy, we would do Brock Purdy, Christian McCaffrey. I'm not comparing those two running backs, by the way, so please don't do that to me. But if you're doing the Baker Bucky thing, are you also layering either Mike Evans or Jalen in some of those scenarios?
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Mike McClure
I could see the Mike Evans side. Jalen, yes, I think is also fine as well. A lot of that really, to me, is going to depend on Kate Otten, though, unfortunately, because I do think Kate Otten does impact Jalen. I think he impacts everyone. Maybe other than some of the upside for Mike Evans, just Mike Evans isn't typically a massive volume guy, just big play kind of guy. But I think Kate Otten would impact some of the other guys quite a bit.
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Kyle Long
Okay. And Meg, any final thoughts on this game before we move to Colts, Giants?
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Meg Shoup
No. Other than, you know, there are a lot of games that I don't like a lot. And I really, really like this game.
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Kyle Long
That's fair enough. By the way, I like that we have so many people active in the chat. I want to give some people a shout out. And by the way, if you're watching, have I said by the way, like five times already? I apologize. I say it too much. If you're watching us on Twitter and you want to join the YouTube chat, super easy, go to the Fantasy Football Today YouTube page, jump in the chat. I'm sure most people listening are already subscribed to that YouTube channel, but if you want to participate and you're watching on Twitter, that's great. Hit the like button. Retweet all that stuff. But come over to YouTube and make some comments. Jeffrey Smith, Waller Allen, Scott, AIB. We've got a lot of people in here. James, UI2K. I haven't seen you in a while. Thanks for being in here. We got Brian in here, Tristan, so many hos geo all in here. We appreciate all of your participation. All right, Giants, Colts. This one's interesting to me. Meg, I'm going to start with you. Last week my stack was Anthony Richardson to Josh Downs. It was good, borderline, almost great. But they stole a touchdown from Anthony Richardson and gave it to Jonathan Taylor. So I won money on my Anthony Richardson stacks. But I should have won a lot more. So I was actually really disappointed in that. He's 5,900. He's going against the Giants. I'm going back to it. Josh Downs hasn't been priced up. Him and Michael Pittman both under 5k. Listen, I understand he popped up on the injury report. He's got some ankle and foot issues, but I really think that's just a rest day. Jonathan Taylor though. 7900. Maybe he steals some more from Anthony Richardson. My bottom line is here. I'm going back to this stack and I think there's some interesting run backs on the Giants. Are you in or out on this game?
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Meg Shoup
Oh, yeah. For me, I don't have a ton of interest on this game. I get the case for it because we always have the ceiling with Anthony Richardson. We got the Josh Downs touchdown last week, so have a little interest in Josh Downs. Obviously you could go back to the well and Jonathan Taylor. For me, I don't have a ton of interest on the Giant side. So go ahead and say that because you know, not every target is created equal and coming from the Giants quarterbacks, that is. These are not obviously quality targets. So no interest on the Giant side for me. Totally get your case for the Anthony Richardson downstack. And of course you can go back to Jonathan Taylor after what he did last week. I don't know how much I'll personally get there.
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Kyle Long
All right, Mike, your thoughts on this game?
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Mike McClure
Yeah, I think it's interesting. I like Malik neighbors. You kind of saw it a little bit in that last game. It wasn't a super impressive game because as Meg mentioned, we mentioned often not all targets created equally, but they do force feed the football his way and that's a clear directive from someone in the organization and it's going to continue to happen. My only concern here in this game is we have to monitor the weather here a little bit. It's not going to be particularly cold. We're talking 50s like warm in this game. But it is potentially going to rain with 15 mile per hour winds. So we do need to monitor that because we're looking at rain for like four or five days in a row here. So if we're getting into a rain situation, it would be a lot of Jonathan Taylor for me and quite a bit of Anthony Richardson still. I like Anthony Richardson as it is. But if the weather forecast becomes clear, I actually love the skinny stack of Anthony Richardson Malik neighbors and move on is something I really, really like this week.
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Kyle Long
Monitoring the weather huge there because if we get Wind and rain that kind of shakes things up a little bit. Malik Neighbors. I mean so I had a winning week in the, in the prop in the betting department on SportsLine last week. One of my losses though was Malik Neighbors. I had over 69 and a half receiving yards. He got to 68. But again my process was good. He had 14 targets. You know, it's two locks of some of them not catchable. But if he's going to get 14 targets or even 12 targets, I'm all in on Malik neighbors at 6600. Wandell Robinson. Mike, you might have mentioned him at 4400. I think is interesting if you want to kind of dumpster dive. But there's other dumpster dive options in other games and I think it's a good time to move on to another game. But let me ask you Meg, in or out on Jonathan Taylor, is he in the player pool or you just go on a different direction.
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Meg Shoup
He's in the player pool but I don't know how much I'll get to him.
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Kyle Long
Mike, is it a similar answer for you?
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Mike McClure
Yeah, I, yeah, he won't be in my top three but probably top five.
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Kyle Long
Okay, well we'll get to your top three later in the show but let's bounce around to Titans, Jaguars. This one's interesting. We had a comment in the chat. I'm forgetting who it was from. Mason Rudolph Stacks what were apparently showing up in in his runs, optimizers, what have you. Mason Rudolph is 5K. Listen, there's some pieces here that he can throw to. We know Meg, about Calvin Ridley. He's 5500 seems to be price effective. Although we're not seeing Mason Rudolph necessarily throw it down the field like Will Levis did in terms of like air yards and stuff like that where Calvin Ridley really grabs those, those long bombs. But I mean he caught one last week. If memory serves, he had a nice little touchdown early Chiga conqueror 3600. I understand the argument for this game and thank you, Claire. On the ones and twos it's Brian Nosokov. I might have butchered that last name. Apologies. Who had the Mason Rudolph question make anything in this game. It's only a lowly 39 and a half point total but I don't know Tony Pollard, Calvin Ridley Akonkwo decent and then oh by the way Brian Thomas on the other side.
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Meg Shoup
Yeah, oh by the way Brian Thomas. I mean he is just absolutely so fun to watch and what a rookie season he's having. So definitely have a ton of interest on Brian Thomas, even though he's not playing with a very good quarterback. And then on the Titan side, I mean, I almost wrote, like, should I consider Mason Rudolph? Because I do like Calvin Ridley and Chigaconko. Chicaconko is getting a ton of targets the last two weeks with Rudolph. And then, oh, by the way, we got a little Calvin Ridley revenge game, if you want to go to that narrative. But yeah, I mean, I absolutely think there's a very condensed target tree there for Calvin Ridley Chigaconko. So if you want to do Mason Rudolph, I don't hate it, but I have a lot of interest in Calvin Ridley, chigaconkwo, Brian Thomas Jr.
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Kyle Long
In this game, Mike, I don't think the Aconko thing is like chasing. I think he's just getting the targets for Mason Rudolph. I ended up playing him a lot. I jamming him into some lineups that did pretty well at 3, 600. I still think he's a bargain. How you playing this game?
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Mike McClure
I'm playing it. I actually think I'm probably gonna have a Mason Rudolph double. Believe it or not. It just. It works. It works. You know, I know we don't like to share lineups on the show, but I'm going to because it's the holidays and we're just. We're just gonna do it because it works. I mean, this lineup to me is kind. It's kind of nice. It's a Mason Rudolph double. We go Rudolph, Bucky Irving, Aaron Jones, Calvin Ridley, Brian Thomas, Mike Evans, Chiga Konkwu, Adam Thielen. And you've got 3,000 for your defense. Just. It kind of works.
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Kyle Long
Meg. That. That sounded good to me.
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Meg Shoup
I like it. I love that. I actually like it. It's now making me a little more confident about the. These Mason Rudolph stacks. And then I also have to throw out that chicka conquo. I did a very late round tight end build and Chig is on my finals. Really pulling for Chick to keep up those targets this week. Maybe get in the end zone.
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Kyle Long
Good timing because Andrew Peterson is in the chat and he says Meg is the best ball goat. Congrats this season. Keep crushing.
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Meg Shoup
Thank you.
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Kyle Long
For the record, Meg puts out picks on Sportsline and articles on CBS Sports.com and SportsLine. So you can check out her work other than. I mean, you do you have your. Your other site too, which somehow the name's eluding me. Meg, where you actually focus on best ball like you do with Sportsline. What is the name of that?
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Meg Shoup
Fanspeak.com we had best ball content all summer long and we will probably starting by super bowl this year.
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Kyle Long
We'll certainly be doing similar stuff for CBS Sports and Sportsline as well. So good shout out Andrew Peterson. Absolutely appreciate that. Okay, well, full disclosure, I think I'm not going to be on the Mason Rudolph stacks, but I'm not. This is not me being critical. I am going to take pieces of this game. Brian Thomas makes a lot of sense, although if everybody's going to play him. Mike, I got to ask you about ownership. He's got to be one of the more popular receivers on the slate if everybody's going to play him. I actually don't mind fading him given that Mac Jones is his quarterback and it's possible he doesn't get there. Is his ownership looking like out of control or what?
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Mike McClure
Yeah, it is. It is up there. I would say that he's going well, maybe 20%. I could see it steaming a little higher. I mean Mike Evans is going to be the clear, clear chalk. We'll see what Tyree Kill ends up being depending on just the price point and everything there and then neighbors Thielen. So he's right in that range, but I do think that he will probably steam up a little higher than what I'm showing right now.
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Kyle Long
Okay, good stuff. We have three more 1 o'clock games and then just two 4 o'clock games to get to and we're going to do it right after this message from our partners. This episode is brought to you by Bleacher Report. How do you follow sports from college football to the NBA? Bleacher Report brings you the latest news, live scores and epic highlights from your favorite leagues, teams and athletes all in one app. Dive into exclusive shows hosted by your favorite athletes and original Bleacher Report series with breaking news, rumors and predictions all season long. Download Bleacher Report to personalize your coverage. This episode is brought to you by US Cellular. You shouldn't have to sacrifice a great experience to get a great deal. And U.S. cellular Prepaid agrees. Which is why right now you'll get a new Samsung Galaxy A15.5G for free without any hidden fees like the device activation fees you get with those other prepaid providers. So you can use your free phone with US Cellular's nationwide 5G coverage to stay connected to the ones you love without having to make sacrifices. Terms apply. Visit uscellular.com for details. All right, Brian Goodwin says thank you Mike. Love a lineup that I can change around some pieces. I think that's the point too. Like things change as we approach the slate, whether it comes to weather, injury reports, value popping up, things of that nature. So it's always helpful to get into the mind of, of Mike and, and how his simulations work. So take that information and do what you want with it. So absolutely appreciate that. Hit the like button. By the way, if you haven't already, let's talk about Raiders, Saints, a game we don't want to hit the like button for, if I'm being honest, Aiden O'Connell. Listen, I've, I've been a part of the Aiden O'Connell experience. I've played him. I think last week I might have played him in the afternoon slate. Whoops. That didn't work out. Like I thought Aiden O'Connell had some upside potential. Perhaps, Mike, he does in this matchup against the Saints. But I gotta tell you, I don't care what values opening up. I mean Kendra Miller's 5500, that doesn't seem like a ton of value to me. The receiver core, I suppose like a Kevin Austin or Dante Pettis, if you wanted salary release relief at a 3K or 3.1, you could do that. But Brock Bowers, Jacoby Myers, I get it. I'm out on this game. It's a 38 point total. Mike, your thoughts on this one?
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Mike McClure
Yeah, I'm mostly out on like skill position players. I have some interest in the Raiders defense on DK, mostly just because they're 2600 and, and if you need a cheap D, I think it could be worse than that. So I, I definitely think that there are worse options than the Raiders D in this particular spot. What we've seen out of the Saints, I know it's a dome game and I know it's not going to be as ugly as it was at Green Bay, but it's still not pretty and it's not going to be pretty the rest of the way. So I, I think Raiders D and move on would be my interest in this game.
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Kyle Long
It's not pretty is about the nicest thing you can say about what we've seen from the Saints. It's holiday season, so Mike is turning on the charm for the euphemisms for some of what we've seen from both the Raiders and the Saints. Mike. I do. So I'm going to get to you, Meg, right now. But Mike, there was a question about defenses. When we do your top three, which we're going to cover at each position in a few minutes, we don't always do the defenses. So I'm gonna ask Meg about this game and if there's a couple other defenses that are popping up in your simulations, maybe we could come back to that now. And other than the Raiders, Meg, any interest in this game?
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Meg Shoup
Yeah, it's an ugly game. I will just throw out. In addition to the Raiders defense, you could pair it with a Raiders running back. It's not pretty, but for salary relief, if you want to go to Madison or. Amira Doula has two games near, I believe 20 DK points because he's getting the targets. I think he's found the end zone two weeks in a row. Again, not pretty. But if you need some salary savings, that is an option.
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Kyle Long
Wheels up is in the chat. If this is who I think it is. Wheels up does his own DFS show. It's very good. He says Raiders D. That is all. And I think that's probably the way to close this particular game out. And I'm trying to find something to say. Listen, I played Madison in the afternoon slate as well in other lineups than Aiden O'Connell and Abdullah would just look like the more effective back. And you just don't know what what share is going to what. So I hear you on Madison, but it just seems like a huge headache. This seems like maybe a ball control game and and the teams get in and get out. All right, not maybe not a ball control game here. Jets, bills 47 point total. Obviously the Bills a huge favorite in this one. Still sticking around nine and a half. Although Mike, I don't know if there's Kansas City Chiefs solidifying the one seed impacts this game really because I do think the Bills have something to play for still in solidifying the two seed. With all that said, Mike, I'll start with you. Josh Allen. 8,500. Very expensive. The receiver core with Shakir and Amari and Keon and Mack and and Curtis Samuel and Kincaid. Like I'm out on all that. James Cook I think is an interesting contrarian play at 7200. And then there's the other side of the ball. So start with the Bills and let me know if you like any jets as well.
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Mike McClure
Yeah, I need to investigate the scenarios for the the Bills losing the two seed. I I think we've seen some of the coach speak and all that. I they say they're going to really kind of close the playbook, so to speak. They're not going to put anything else on film. So I expect a very conservative game plan. I would be more interested in stacking the jets side than anything here. We watched the Patriots be able to push the Bills just a touch in that game. And again, the jets, while it's been an awful season for them, they're playing a lot closer to a playoff team right now than they are playing as a bottom of the league team. So I think it's still an audition for Aaron Rodgers and company to continue to get the opportunity to play. So I think Rogers doubles make sense to me just because you know exactly where the volume's going. It's very, very clear cut. So I have a little interest on the jets side only. No Bills for me.
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Kyle Long
Yeah, it's interesting because we have an implied total for as for 27 for the Bills, but it's creeping to 20 meg for the Jets. And Mike's right, you know when you know where the volume's going. Like, to me, if I, if I'm looking, and I'm not really actually doing math here, but if I'm looking at a 20 point implied total, but I know where the volume is going, to me it almost like I want to like add four points because, like, I just know where the scoring is likely going. It's devonte Adams and Garrett Wilson. I'm not stacking the Jet sign, but I think if you wanted to take like for me, I kind of want to take a piece of maybe Devonte Adams, even though it's 7100. Any thoughts on that? Maybe you like the stack on, on that side. Maybe you'll like Josh Allen. What are we doing in this game?
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Meg Shoup
We've discussed it the last few weeks. I do think Rogers doubles are definitely in play here sometimes the past couple weeks. Sometimes it's gotten there, sometimes it hasn't. But I do definitely. I think it's in play here for sure. I'll say that. I also think if you do want to take just a piece of devonte Adams or Garrett Wilson, I think there's a little squeaky wheel there. You certainly could. And then you. Josh Allen's always in play, but I would not stack him. I mean, trying to pick what would be, who would be the stack with him feels very, very difficult task. So I, if you do play Josh Allen, I would just honestly play him naked and maybe run it back with like a devonte Adams or Gary Wilson.
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Kyle Long
Mike, I'm seeing that there might be some precipitation in this game as well. And that makes sense, right? Buffalo, we talked about New York, like the Northeast might get afflicted with some, some rain. I'm not seeing a ton of wind in any of these games. But if we start to see rain come down, does that affect your position on Rogers double stacks or really anybody in this game?
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Mike McClure
I mean, if it, if it's really, you know, heavy, heavy rain, then yeah, definitely. But if it's just kind of a light rain, then probably not going to affect a lot. I know a lot of people want to play Buffalo. Guys like I, I. The problem is, is I, I don't think they're going to push too terribly hard. They obviously want to win. They need one win in the final two games to grab the two seed. They could lose it out to Baltimore if they were to lose both of those games, and they would lose the seed, assuming Baltimore wins. So, like, if you want to play Cook, it's fine. I just think there's better running back plays. So again, I, I would not force a run back here. I'm mostly off of the Bills in the final two games here.
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Kyle Long
Yeah. And we have a question from Uwe2k. Like, is Cook a safe play? I mean, I don't know that safe is how I'd characterize it, but Mike and Meg, like, with, with head nods or head shakes, like, he does seem like a pretty good contrarian play because I don't think a lot of people will get to a James Cook 7200. Right? Sure. Yeah. Okay, fair enough. So maybe, maybe a tournament play to consider in spite of the fact that you know Ty Johnson. We know Ty Johnson. Ray Davis sometimes get involved. All right, the last of the 1:00 games, I believe, is Cowboys and the Eagles. Claire is on it. Props to Claire. Hit the like button for her. Give her a shout out because she is controlling everything in the background and she's doing a great job. Cowboys plus eight and a half. It's a 41 and a half point total. Nothing super exciting here from a, from a scoring standpoint, but we've got some exciting players. Mike, I'll start with you. Saquon Barkley, 8600. At this point, it's hard to look away from him, regardless of what his price is. I don't know what's going on with Jalen Hurts. I don't think anybody has confirmation on that. AJ Brown, Devonte Smith. Regardless, I'm out on both of those, although Devonte's price at 5800 makes sense. Cowboys side, we have CD Lamb. The AC joint sprain really kind of makes me a little scared about that. Rico Dowdle. I'm out on the Cowboys. Barkley's the only one I'd consider here. Tell me I'm wrong.
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Mike McClure
Yeah, no, you're not wrong at all. I think we, we need Jalen Hurts news big time if, you know before you can really do anything. If we get a scenario where Hertz is out, I actually would probably play Kenny Pickett here at 5500. I think he's actually still got a tiny bit of rushing upside. I know a lot of it at the goal line obviously is going to go to Saquon, but it would be a scenario where I'd have some interest in basically playing Pickett and Saquon together and just backing this Eagles offense to roll still and still put up 30 points in this game. And I think you could do a lot worse than that. But I, I can't do a ton with this game, unfortunately, until we know the status of Jalen Hurts, because it does impact everything in a really, really big way.
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Kyle Long
And I think we have to monitor. If Jalen Hurts is declared out, we have to monitor what that does with the total. Probably nothing because it's already so low. But if the total is what it is now, I mean we still have a 24 and change total for the Philadelphia Eagles, so that's obviously not nothing. So I like that would be the justification in considering like a Kenny Pickett type lineup. I will say this, I thought he might have had like some sort of ribs issue that we have to monitor. Meg, I see you kind of nodding your head there and if that's the case, maybe some of the rushing equity sort of gets kind of like taken away there something again, these, these types of things we have to monitor. Meg, your thoughts on this game?
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Meg Shoup
Yeah, if Hertz is out and Pickets in. I don't, I don't, I don't mind Mike's call of just kind of soaking up all the, the scoring equity with Saquon and Kenny Pickett. So I don't mind that at all. I'm like you, I'm out on the Cowboys. I just, you know, it's a little too risky there and then, you know, I know Washington got over on them, but not many other people, not many other teams have. This is. Has been a very good Eagles defense. So out on the Cowboys. I would say just Saquon was my main interest and then you could make a case for, for a picket. But you. Yeah, it's just really, really watch the injury news on this one.
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Kyle Long
Meg. I'm sorry I was so busy last Sunday just doing non football things that when you say Washington got on them, them Being the Eagles, I have no idea what you're referring to. Can you remind everybody, including myself, like what that might have been referring to?
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Meg Shoup
Yeah. Coming back and scoring what, five touchdowns against this vaunted vaulted Eagles defense to, to win. And yeah, we're putting ourselves in a very nice playoff position, which is very exciting.
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Kyle Long
Well, that is shocking. I did not know that. That is, that is big news for Washington. Five touchdowns. That doesn't even sound right against that v Eagles defense like you said. But just, I just stat checked that and it confirmed that actually happened. All right, two 4 o'clock games. Let's start with the Dolphins and the Browns. You know, I'm so mad at the Browns. First they give us Deshaun Watson for two months, which was like a complete disaster in every possible form of that word. And then they're like, oh, we're gonna give you Jameis Winston. And then they take him away when he gets to play or should be getting to play. The Cincinnati Bengals defense, they gave us DTR for six points. Like give Jamis that game. I think Jamis deserved that game against the Cincinnati Bengals. That would have been a back and forth affair. It would have been probably like 60 total points and we missed out and I'm really, really upset about it. All right, I, I don't love this game, but there certainly are pieces. Mike, I'll start with you on this one. Achan, 7700. Boy, did he make my day by not sliding and scoring a touchdown at the end because I had him in so many lineups. 7,700. Most are, you know, getting some action. He looked kind of spry too, but HN at 7700, hard to look away there. Tyreek Hill, 6900. John who 5700. Mike, do you like this game?
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Mike McClure
I, I do actually. I, I like a little bit of the Miami pieces. Hn number one for me for sure. Just the, the workload is incredible. I mean he's getting seven plus targets every day, every game and you know, 10 to 20 depending on the game script touches in the running game as well. So I, I just love the way that he is involved and I think he should be an 8,000plus stellar player still. So I, considering there's value at quarterback and kind of mid range receiver, I, I do like paying up for a chan here. Tyree Kill I think is still playable. 6, 900 as long as he's on the field, it's got to monitor the injury. I think he still plays through it the rest of the way but something to monitor. But for me it'd be a chan as a primary piece here.
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Kyle Long
Yeah, monitoring injuries and weather going to be really important because this one is up in Cleveland. And again what's interesting is that the temps in the northeast mag are don't look to be cold really especially for this time of year. It's just the precipitation that could be an issue. Wind doesn't look to be like a huge factor. What do you like on the dolphin side and are there any browns like Jerome Ford at 5900 that you like?
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Meg Shoup
Yeah, I think obviously a chance in play. You could go back to John who obviously as well. Those are would be the two main Dolphins pieces for me. And then of course Jerome Ford on the brown side I think is probably the only Browns player I have interest in.
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Kyle Long
Okay, I think we can move on. Maybe you just said this. You are in on Johnny. You're the Johnny Smith whisperer. I have to ask you again, you're in on Johnny Smith at.
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Meg Shoup
Yes, I am in on John who I likely will play Chicka Conquo or somebody tight end cheaper. But if you did do tight end, two tight end lineups or just if you did want to spend up I do like John in the air.
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Kyle Long
All right, we're on to the next game. Packers -1 at the Vikings 48 and a half point total. A big game, an exciting game. Two quarterbacks that can get there, two running backs that can get there. Let's see, I'm counting one, two, three, maybe four receivers that can get there. A couple of decent tight ends, particularly TJ Hawkinson. Meg, I'll start with you. There's so much you can do with this game. Like the main slate. I feel like we just bracketed the main slate in terms of we started with the Buccaneers which has the same total and we we ended this eight game slate. And by the way, we still have our cheat sheets in our top three and we're going to discuss the Saturday slate later in the show. But this is like the other game that I think people will really gravitate to others as well. But these two. What do you like in this one?
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Meg Shoup
Yeah, I think there's a lot to like. The first matchup early in the year was a shootout. It was more of a Packer spell where very far behind and then Jordan Love had to kind of play with his hair on fire and really had a massive ceiling game because of that. But Darnold as he's looked good all year long, looked great in that game as well, so I think you could go to really any piece in this that you kind of want to play. You stack up Darnold with Jefferson and Addison, you could stack up love, though that's a much tougher task because of their receiving core. You could approach it from the running backs. You could add the running backs to the stacks. I just, I. I really think it's just kind of, you know, dealer's choice and, and however you want to play it. But it obviously, I think this could be similar to the first game, a very high total game and definitely have interest in a lot of pieces here.
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Kyle Long
Yeah, Mike, I have some interesting pieces in here as well, but I think it's the. It's the Viking side that I like the best. And it's partly because we do get that more condensed target share with the Vikings with Justin Jefferson, Addison and of course, TJ Hawkinson kind of. Kind of getting in the mix there too, I do think. An interesting contrarian play. Maybe it's not contrarian because his price is so low, but Aaron Jones at 6200 has my interest as maybe like a double leverage piece off of these stacks. What's your interest on the Viking side specifically?
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Mike McClure
Yeah, Aaron Jones is popping as the. The top option for me. Hawkinson a decent amount as well. And then as you mentioned, it is mostly heavy Viking side because again, I think, as you mentioned, the targets, while it is expanding with Hawkinson back, it's still pretty concentrated. Right. So. And it's concentrated in that we kind of understand some of the correlation as well. So you can build, you know, an Addison or an Addison Jefferson lineup or just the hockey, you know, you can build for certain scenarios pretty easily with that team. So I'm way more interested there. I do have some Addison. I do have a little Jefferson. A lot of Aaron Jones, though. A lot of Aaron Jones at 6200. I think this is a really good spot for him. I'm not getting anything really on the Packer side really at all. And it makes sense a little bit to me if you want to, like, yeah, stack it up. Take a shot on Christian Watson. He has a questionable tag, so monitor it. Take a shot on some of those guys. But the pricing, I'd kind of rather focus on the Minnesota guys and then still sprinkle in the guys like Calvin Ridley, Brian Thomas, things like that, and similar price ranges. So Minnesota only really here for me.
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Kyle Long
Meg, this does seem like the type of game where you could stack up Sam Darnold with two pass catchers or whatever. However, you want to stack it and not have a run back. And you know, if Christian Watson were to be out, which I don't think he will be, I think that makes it a little bit easier because it condenses a little bit. But I mean, Jaden Reed, like, do you go there? He's not on the field all the time. Romeo Dobbs. I do like that. At 5100, he's a Red zone machine. Don Tavian Wicks got into the mix. He's only 3900. But now Luke Musgrave's back. Tucker Craft, like, even if Watson is out, which again, I don't think he will be, I'm not 100% sure there. I can't see myself getting to any pass catchers or Josh Jacobs at 8100. Do you agree?
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Meg Shoup
Yeah, I think it's, it's kind of price prohibitive for some of the top options. And then again, if Watson's in, it's just such a crowded wide receiver or pass catching core.
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Kyle Long
Yeah. We2k says no Jacobs love. Yeah, that's true. By the way, there were some questions. It's probably my sixth, by the way.
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Meg Shoup
I will say they, they have been getting Jacobs a little more involved in the passing game. I do like to see that on, on dk. So that's at least nice because if they get him a little more involved in the passing game, you know, he has been getting a lot of, you know, high value touches and scoring touchdowns. So I think he still could be a contrarian piece for that reason.
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Kyle Long
That's what I was going to ask Mike. Are you looking at ownership? Like, I can't imagine Josh Jacobs is a top five running back. From an ownership standpoint, he's not far off.
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Mike McClure
Actually, it's about sixth. He's coming in right now about 20%, which I think is a touch high. My data says that I should play him around 12 to 13. So it's just a little over owned.
- [36:42]
Kyle Long
Yeah.
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Mike McClure
And I think intuitively that probably makes a little sense to you guys and everyone as well. Right. If you said Josh Jacobs is 20, you're like. And maybe I don't want to play into that. But if I said Josh Jacobs, you know, ahead of time, it's 12, you're like, okay, yeah, probably right. So it's like right on that, that range. I think the guys that could really impact it though is just however the field gets to Devon H.N. and Jonathan Taylor and for those two, it's a weather situation. For me that, that both could benefit from. But I, I ultimately think a Chan and Taylor take away a little bit of the Jacob stuff, but I think they're all kind of evenly dispersed to the point where none are like just must haves.
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Kyle Long
And real quick, there were a couple questions going back to that jets game about Breeze hall in terms of any love for him. I'm out on Breeze Hall. Meg, I'll start with you. Any Breeze hall love?
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Meg Shoup
Yeah, no, I don't think I'm getting the Breeze hall now, Mike.
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Mike McClure
Nope.
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Kyle Long
All right. Yeah, it was AIB and at least one other person asking about Breeze Hall. It's definitely, definitely a no for me. All right, well, we've got a lot more to cover. We just covered the eight games, but we still have our cheat sheets, Mike's top three at each position and we're gonna have a short discussion on the three game Saturday slate, which is kind of fun because those three games are staggered early in the day, mid afternoon and 8:00 at night. So maybe a chance to do some late swaps, some creative things with your lineups, things, things of that nature. Either way, we're going to get to the cheat sheets right after this message from our partners.
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Meg Shoup
Yeah, I don't know that I'll get to the Green Bay side even in that situation because I do, I, I do think, you know, they have been a little more run heavy and I do think that Love got there because they were playing from such a negative game script last time, the first time they met. So I don't. So my, my answer would probably be no.
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Kyle Long
Mike, your thoughts?
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Mike McClure
Yeah, I honestly I talk about this a lot here. I think that I would only do it in small field stuff so like single entry or 3 max stuff with smaller contests. And I would probably just stack Love and Jacobs and just bet on the packers scoring 30 points in the game. Potentially bring back on the other side. Well, not potentially definitely bring back on the other side, but I would rather just, you know, we've seen Jacobs get involved in the passing game a little more. I would basically if you stack Jordan Love and Josh Jacobs, you are going to get exposure to nearly every point offensively, you know, in terms of scoring. So that, that's how I would play it personally. But you're not going to win a millimeter with that. You're going to win a single entry kind of thing with that.
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Kyle Long
What's interesting is we have a two game afternoon slate so you could really get creative with your and try to get lucky with certain pieces from the Green Bay side with that two game slate similar to what we had yesterday. So Jordan Love stacks probably won't be the most popular in that between Dolphins, Browns, Packers, Vikings. It'll pro. I'm guessing it'll be Sam Darnold stuff in that two game slate. Maybe some tour stuff tied with Jordan Love stuff. So get creative there on the main slate. You could get creative too. Just have to wait on the news on Christian Watson, I think. All right Meg, your cheat sheet. Let's start with your favorite stack. Chalk by chalk fade contrarian and value play.
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Meg Shoup
Sure. So my we talked about it off the top of the show. Baker to Mike Evans mix. Feel free to mix in Bucky Irving and McMillan in that one. So that's my favorite stack. My fade is going to be neighbors just he's looking to be I own and it's more because of who's throwing the ball to him. My contrarian play is going to be Jordan Addison. We talked about the Vikings stack potentially if obviously you always want to play Jefferson in a Vikings tack but Jordan Addison is very intriguing there and then my value is going to be Chigaconquo both for best ball and dfs. Hopefully he gets me there this week.
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Kyle Long
Okay, I am copying one of your picks because and I'll start there with the value. I I like Chigaconkwo. I. I put him into a lot of lineups last week and it really ended up paying off. So I want to just get it out early that I am on him again. I really like how he matches up specifically with Mason Rudolph as the quarterback here. But let's start with the stack. We're going to go Anthony Richardson to Josh Towns. I'm going right back to the same stack last week against the Giants. Of course, if the conditions get messy with the weather I will pivot off of this very easily. So just obviously keep that in mind. But a rich to Josh Downs is my play there. Chalk by Bucky Irving. I mean, listen, I know he splits with Rashad White, but if they have any interest in actually winning this game and making the playoffs, which I still think they will and at minus 135 I think it's a good bet because I do think the Falcons will end up losing to Washington this week. The other game for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is the Saints. I believe so that they're gonna. They're. Well, it's the States and the Carolina Panthers so I think they're going to coast. They need Bucky Irving so I like that my Chuck Fade is going to be Justin Jefferson. Just not going to get there with him. I don't mind if you decide to play him but. But he's pretty popular. I'm not going to get there. My contrarian play I had tough a tough time coming up with this one. Jerome Ford not getting a lot of ownership and I do think they lean on him in the receiving game and in the running game a good amount. And then of course I mentioned my value play of Chigu Conquo all right, Mike, top three at each position and I did forget to come back to you on defenses so after you give that out, maybe I'll ask you about a couple defenses outside of the Raiders that you like. But let's start at quarterback.
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Mike McClure
I'm gonna go Anthony Richardson 1. Just the rushing upside. They obviously lots to play for so I like that for them and for him. Baker Mayfield two and Mason Rudolph. I've listed three right now. It was close between him and Bryce Young and ultimately why I'm listing Rudolph is I feel that I can get a lot of the exposure to Bryce Young through just Baker Mayfield's stacks and those game stacks. So I'm going to elect to just play Baker and bet that he outscores Bryce and still build around that. And then Mason Rudolph, just the price point. The doubles, they make a lot of sense. You've seen some of the clear volume with Chiga Kanku, Calvin Ridley. So give me a little Mason Rudolph here. All right, running backs, Bucky Irving, Aaron Jones, Devon Achan. I. I like Buck Irving a lot. Again, part of that, that team that's gotta win. He's just so dynamic in the passing game. Aaron Jones, a little bit of a revenge narrative against the. The Packers. Not a revenge. They love each other, but it's a spot that he certainly gets up for. And then Devon Hn just the volume's incredible. I think we could see a tiny bit of weather and I think he's gonna succeed here again.
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Kyle Long
Okay, top three wide receivers.
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Mike McClure
Pretty chalky here, but I think it's clear. Good chalk. Mike Evans, Calvin Ridley, Brian Thomas. Again, I'm playing Rudolph, so I like Ridley. I like Brian Thomas as the bring back. I think that game, despite a 39 and a half point total, is a good candidate for an ugly over a 23:20 kind of game with a lot of passing volume. So, yeah, Mike Evans, Calvin Ridley, Brian Thomas.
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Kyle Long
Okay, and then finally top three tight ends.
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Mike McClure
Chiga Konku, TJ Hawkinson and Britain Strange. I. I like those three again, but it's mostly. Chigakonku is going to be the guy I'm gonna bet on again. You know, we've seen 21 targets in the last two weeks. No reason to think it stops here at this point.
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Kyle Long
And for the record, even though we're not explicitly saying, like these are the cash game plays, these are the tournament plays, it's pretty clear based on what we're discussing and how we're discussing some of these players, like Chiga Conquo, you know, like Bucky Irving, for example, like some of these other players, like where you might be able to find the right pieces for your cash game plays. And, and the defenses. Mike.
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Mike McClure
Yes. I'm gonna start with the Raiders. Just price point and pick on the Saints. Right now I've got the Dolphins, actually number two. I know it's a road game, but Cleveland kind of a mess right now as well. And then after that, it's. For me, it's kind of a toss up here. You know, I'm looking at the Eagles still as a team that I think should be more than 3,100, frankly, playing against Dallas and then The Colts against the Giants. If we get a little bit of weather, I think it would be a fantastic spot to back the Colts on the defense. And you got the, the stack essentially with Jonathan Taylor and or Richardson.
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Kyle Long
Yeah, I love that. I, I gotta say because there was somebody that asked about Devin Singletary if, if Tyrone Tracy is out, if there would be any interest there. The answer to that is no. I think the Colts are good for the record, I think they're the best team in the AFC South. I said, actually said that preseason. That was my pick to win the AFC South. This is a good team. It's just Anthony Richardson was so below average almost this entire season. I, I, I thought, I didn't think he'd be amazing. I just thought he had to be average and they would win this division. Turns out I, I think I was right because the Texans just have really regressed in a lot of different ways. But this front seven for the Colts is no joke. Like this is a good team and I think we've seen glimpses of it. We've seen some tough losses for them. Otherwise they would be firmly, I know there's technically still in the playoffs. They would otherwise be firmly in this playoff mix. Anyway, just my thoughts on the Indianapolis Colts. All right, let's talk about the Saturday games real quick. Let's spend five minutes. We got a three game slate. We got the Chargers and Pats 42 and a half point total. Broncos, Bengals 49 and a half point total which is very intriguing. Always monitor weather of course. Cardinals, Rams in a dome 47 and a half point total. Mike, I'm going to start with you on this one. I mean Chargers Pat's not going to have a ton of intrigue in terms of stacking. Although I think Drake May is always just going to be interesting especially since he has some low price options and, and guys like Kayshawn Booty who really shined last week. Demario Douglas of course Hunter Henry, Broncos, Bengals is going to get everybody's interest. Understandable. I think you can play both quarterbacks. Obviously all the, all the skill position guys particularly on the Bengal side are very intriguing. I like Cortland Sutton at 6300 and then Cardinals, Rams I think is really interesting. Matt Stafford only 5700 Pair him with Puka Naku at 8k that one makes a lot of sense. And then with James Connor maybe out but Trey Benson may be out, you got some value in who's it going to be? Michael Carter, D.J. dallas. Like these are like very min priced oriented Guys, I just said a lot but I'm just trying to cover bases in a short amount of time. Mike, I'm going to start with you. What has your interest in this one?
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Mike McClure
Yeah, I think there's a couple just really clear spots. You know, I think that you're most definitely going to be jamming Chase Brown and Jamar Chase in the lineup. I think the question for me becomes is it a full on stack with burrow or not or do I look to get a little different? So the guy that I would get a little different with would be Kyler Murray and it's just the savings, you know, clear spot where they need to go win game here. It's a dome, it's comfortable and the twelve hundred dollars is a big savings from Joe Burrow to Kyler here. So I'm looking at builds basically where I've got, you know, Chase Brown, Michael Carter, Cortland Sutton, Jamar Chase, Marvin Harrison, Trey McBride, Kyler Murray, like all in the same lineup. That's basically where I'm looking. I'm gonna jam the big volume guys in. So like I personally, especially if we get the Carter situation at running back, I can't imagine a scenario that I would play a lineup that didn't have all of Chase Brown, jamar Chase, Trey McBride in it. I think that those three are a near must in every team.
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Kyle Long
Meg, your thoughts on this one that those arguments make a lot of sense. Are there other quarterbacks that you would consider? I mentioned Matthew Stafford who I think is interesting. Marvin Harrison's price. I know Mike just mentioned him 5200. It just keeps cratering to like do we jump on at this point? What are your thoughts on this three game slate?
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Meg Shoup
Yeah, I think we're all going to want to gravitate to the second game. The Bengals and Broncos, obviously all the playoff implications are there. And then you know, obviously from a matchup standpoint it makes sense whether you want to, you know, pay down for a Knicks stack and run it back with Bengals or vice versa like Mike talked about and do a burrow stack. I think on that one you just, I think you can overplay, you know, like really stack up that game if you want to kind of try to be different because everybody's going to be playing that game. Maybe you overstack it and add pieces like a Marvin Mims who can have like a big explosive play. Something along those lines. If you want to get different in the stack department, this is, there's going to be a lot of best ball themed rooting interests. I wouldn't mind like a Herbert McConkey to be just to be different. But of course they can probably do what they want to get a win there against the Patriots. But I would say that would be maybe a more contrarian stack. But yeah, I would say maybe just overstack that second game.
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Kyle Long
Mike and Meg, I want to ask you about a couple of players before we get out of here that, that we didn't really touch on too much and it's in that Broncos game, but it's on the Broncos side. Well, for two players, I want to ask about Bo Nix because there's another game. I want to ask about somebody. Bo Nix at 6200. We know the rushing equity is potentially there. He's going against a bad defense again. I'm going to say it again. Monitor weather because it does look like we might see some precipitation, but the temperature looks to be very solid. I think a Bo Nick's Cortland Sutton stack with a couple of run backs. Chase Brown, Jamar Chase. I think that makes a lot of sense, too. Any thoughts? Meg, I'm going to start with you. Any thoughts on Bo Nix and maybe Cortland Sutton?
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Meg Shoup
Oh, I definitely like the Bonick side. Just, you know, saving a little there on that stack. Probably saving a little on the ownership side, too. So, yeah, I definitely am fine with the Bonick stack. And again, I would probably to overstack it, maybe add a Marvin Mims piece.
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Kyle Long
Yeah, actually, that's a great call. Marvin Mims at 3, 900. Mike, I know you know, there's other stacks that look a lot better, but it seems to me like you'd at least get a little bit of leverage with a Bo Nick Stack. Your thoughts?
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Mike McClure
Yeah, possibly. I would rather play that if the slate was a little bigger, personally, just because of the nature of the slate, he's still going to come with a decent ownership tag. So you're not like. I mean, you're separating a little bit, but you're not separating in a big, big way. I'm a little off of it. I actually think the Broncos are horrible defensively. I think they're almost as bad as the Bengals right now. I think they've fallen off a cliff. So I, I love. I. I think I wouldn't shock me if Scentsy put up 35 plus in this game. So I'm personally going to be way heavier on that side. And because of the situation that we have ourselves in with Arizona, I like. I think Kyler Murray outscores Phoenix by a few Points here, so.
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Kyle Long
All right. All right. Love that. One other guy I wanted to ask about was in this Rams game, people are want to get going to want to get pieces of Puka. Obviously Khan Williams is going to get played, but in games like this, Kyron is just like the guy they don't really go to Blake Corn. He gets all the vibe. It's like a Josh Jacobs type role, even though he's not a Josh Jacobs type build necessarily. Are we like, can we get Mike? I'll start. Well, Meg, I'll start with you on this one. Kyron Williams, is he going to be in the pool? Are you going to try to jam him into lineups or do you think you're just going like. We know there might be salary relief at the Arizona running back position. We know Chase Brown is going to be in the mix in lineups, but it seems to me like Kyron Williams should be in that mix as well.
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Meg Shoup
Yeah, I definitely think Kyren has to be in the mix for. Especially for his volume. And I think you can attack the Cardinals on the ground too, hopefully. I think Rams are going to probably want to just. Just try to play ball control. I wouldn't be surprised about that either. So. Yeah, that's a long way of saying I like Kyron Williams a lot in this, Mike.
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Kyle Long
Kyron Williams popping up for you as well?
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Mike McClure
Yes. The question is really, you know, how do you prioritize it with the. The sensei guys? I think that, you know, winning this slate, the answer is going to be basically out of the three between Kyron Williams, Jamar Chase and Chase Brown. You can, I mean, you can get all three pretty easily, but you really are going to play two of those three comfortably. And nailing which two of those are. Will. Will be ultimately what decides who wins this slate, in my opinion.
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Kyle Long
Okay, so if you had to order those, you. It sounds to me like you really like the Cincinnati side again, weather permitting and all that stuff, which probably will be fine. Chase Brown, Jamar Chase are the major priority for you.
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Mike McClure
They are the major priority, although I am building right now. And I do think that we can get all of them. So we can. We can get all of them. So I've got a lineup that I love with Kyler Murray, with Kyron Williams, Chase Brown. Wait a minute. Sorry, guys. It doesn't fit, unfortunately.
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Kyle Long
Yeah, but Michael Carter does provide. Like, if Connor and Benson are out, you're jamming Michael Carter in.
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Mike McClure
Definitely.
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Kyle Long
Okay.
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Meg Shoup
Definitely.
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Kyle Long
All right. Well, I think we covered what we could on that three game slate. Gave you some ideas. Covered the eight game slate as well. Gave you a Meg's cheat sheet. My cheat sheet. Mike's top three each position, including defense. We did it all in 50 minutes. It's not bad. That's not bad. Good stuff, Meg. Thank you so much. Mike, thank you so much. This has been a great show. You'll see us next Thursday like you always do at 11 o'clock. Appreciate all the participation in the chat, appreciate the like buttons, the questions, the comments. It's always a fun ride. It's what, week 17. But we still got kind of a long way to go because we're going through the playoffs too, folks. So make sure you're subscribed to this podcast, you're subscribe to this channel. Maybe you review the podcast on Apple or Spotify. That always helps. The three of us and and CBS in Fantasy Football today as a whole, we always appreciate stuff like that. All right, ladies and gentlemen, have a great weekend. Have a great continuation of your holiday. On behalf of Meg, shop on behalf of Mike McClure and Claire on the ones and twos and threes and fours. My name is Sinajad. This is Fantasy Football Today. Dfs. See you next time.
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Mike McClure
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