One-QB Startup Dynasty Fantasy Football Mock Draft! (1/28 Fantasy Football Dynasty Podcast)

Summary

Fantasy Football Today: One-QB Startup Dynasty Fantasy Football Mock Draft! (January 28, 2025)

In this episode of Fantasy Football Today, hosts Chief Cummings and analyst Jamie Eisenberg dive deep into a one-quarterback (1-QB) startup dynasty fantasy football mock draft. Aimed at helping listeners dominate their leagues, the discussion offers strategic insights, player evaluations, and real-time draft analysis. This detailed summary captures the essence of their conversations, highlighting key decisions, expert opinions, and insightful quotes with corresponding timestamps.

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1. Introduction to the Mock Draft

Chief Cummings kicks off the episode by introducing the mock draft scenario: a one-quarterback full Point Per Reception (PPR) league requiring two running backs, two wide receivers, a tight end, and two flex positions. The format includes a super flex option, intensifying the importance of selecting elite quarterbacks.

• Timestamp [01:35]:
  "This is a one quarterback full PPR league with two running backs, two wide receivers, a tight end and two flexes."

2. Round One Analysis

The first round sets the tone, with Chief Cummings and Jamie Eisenberg debating the top-tier wide receivers versus the emerging running backs.

• Top Picks:

  • Chief Cummings selects Ja'Marr Chase as the first overall pick.
  • Jamie Eisenberg chooses Justin Jefferson immediately after.

• Notable Decision:

  • Puka Nacua is selected fourth, raising discussions about his potential impact alongside veteran quarterback Matthew Stafford.

  • Timestamp [03:56]:
    "Puka Nacua is a chance to be special. I anticipate Stafford playing another two or three more years."

• Running Back Strategy:

  • Bijan Robinson is favored over Jameer Gibbs due to his immediate production and the offensive environment.

  • Timestamp [05:45]:
    "I would lean toward Bijan simply because the short term should somewhat favor him."

3. Early Rounds and Quarterback Considerations

As the draft progresses into the second and third rounds, the conversation shifts towards balancing immediate need with future potential, especially regarding quarterbacks.

• Saquon Barkley Contention:

  • Jamie Eisenberg expresses concerns about Barkley's sustainability post an impressive 2024 season, highlighting historical declines for running backs after a 2,000-yard season.

  • Timestamp [12:33]:
    "I'm a little concerned. I would not take him in that spot."

• Quarterback Run:

  • By round three, despite being a 1-QB league, elite quarterbacks like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson remain undrafted, prompting urgency.

  • Timestamp [07:39]:
    "Especially in a one quarterback league, super flex, you'd probably be taking quarterbacks at this point."

4. Mid-Rounds Dynamics and Position Runs

Entering the fourth to sixth rounds, the mock draft witnesses a surge in quarterback selections, affecting the availability and value of other positions.

• Chris Olave Over DJ Moore:

  • Chief Cummings questions Adam Azer's decision to swap DJ Moore for Chris Olave, contemplating the value based on team dynamics and offensive support.

  • Timestamp [24:22]:
    "Does Azer make a good choice? There is Chris Olave over DJ Moore at this point."

• Tight End Strategy:

  • The selection of George Kittle in round four sparks debate on whether to pivot towards building a "win now" team or continuing to draft flex options.

  • Timestamp [28:32]:
    "Is this a bet like Jalen McMillan on one of the 49ers being gone next year, or is it a bet on Brandon Iuk just not being healthy?"

5. Late Rounds and Value Picks

In the later rounds, the focus shifts to high-upside picks and depth building, with considerations for rookie performances and potential breakout stars.

• DeAndre Swift's Selection:

  • Despite injury concerns, DeAndre Swift is taken due to his upside and potential role in the offense.

  • Timestamp [53:50]:
    "I think there's still upside for him... tied to them for at least one more season."

• Quarterback Choices:

  • Caleb Williams is selected, adding depth to the quarterback position and addressing future dynasty needs.

  • Timestamp [36:35]:
    "I think he's looking at short term versus long term... 900 to a thousand-yard rusher."

6. Draft Strategy and Team Building

Throughout the mock draft, Chief Cummings and Jamie Eisenberg emphasize the importance of balancing immediate needs with long-term dynasty prospects. They discuss the implications of drafting veterans versus young talent, injury risks, and the potential for players to evolve within their respective teams.

• Win Now vs. Building for the Future:

  • Choosing players like Patrick Mahomes and George Kittle signals a "win now" approach, focusing on players with immediate impact potential.

  • Timestamp [50:07]:
    "He has enough talent to go that route if I want to go win now especially with young receivers."

• Evaluating Player Consistency:

  • The mock draft critically assesses players' past performances, injury histories, and team dynamics to forecast future productivity.

  • Timestamp [41:54]:
    "I don't think he's just, he's, he's, he's not foolproof... a great pick at this point."

7. Conclusion and Key Takeaways

As the mock draft wraps up, Chief Cummings and Jamie Eisenberg reflect on the overall team composition, highlighting strengths and areas of concern. They underscore the significance of adaptability during drafts and the necessity of staying informed about player statuses and team strategies.

• Final Team Assessment:

  • Chief Cummings ends with a recap of his team, noting a strong emphasis on running backs and wide receivers, while still seeking a reliable tight end and quarterback.

  • Timestamp [55:24]:
    "It feels like you're more win now than opposed to build for the future."

• Audience Engagement:

  • The hosts encourage listeners to participate in future drafts and mailbag episodes, fostering a community of engaged fantasy football enthusiasts.

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Key Insights:

• Dynamic Draft Strategy: Balancing immediate needs with long-term dynasty potential is crucial, especially in unique league formats like 1-QB super flex.

• Player Evaluation: Assessing players based on team dynamics, injury history, and potential growth helps in making informed draft decisions.

• Flexibility: Being adaptable during drafts, such as adjusting strategies when key positions start running, can significantly impact team success.

• Value Over Hype: Prioritizing players who offer consistent performance and upside over those solely based on reputation ensures a robust fantasy lineup.

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Notable Quotes:

• Chief Cummings [04:52]:
  "I think Nacua has a chance to be special. I anticipate Stafford playing another two or three more years."

• Jamie Eisenberg [12:33]:
  "I'm a little concerned. I would not take him in that spot."

• Chief Cummings [27:52]:
  "Does a pick like that, Jamie, a 31-year-old tight end in round five, change the direction of the rest of your draft."

• Jamie Eisenberg [39:37]:
  "I do think there's still upside for him."

This episode serves as a comprehensive guide for fantasy football enthusiasts looking to refine their draft strategies, offering a blend of analytical rigor and practical advice to navigate the complexities of dynasty leagues.

Transcript

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[Chief Cummings]

To fantasy Football today Dynasty. I am your host, Chief Cummings, joined today by Jamie Eisenberg. And we have a one quarterback startup mock draft for you. And Jamie, this one's going to be interesting because you've got half analysts, half fans from Twitter. We're going to see a draft, a startup mock that hopefully looks a little bit more like what people see at home.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's always fun when you, you know, throw a little unknown. And by unknown I mean just, you know, we're used to drafting with a lot of the same people in our mock drafts and you know, Dynasty redraft everything that we typically do because we like to give, you know, similar voices to, you know, what, you know, we encourage people to do. But it's always fun to have some of our audience participate and I always like to see how, you know, some of that changes the perception of maybe what we think because, oh, I didn't realize that that guy's should be maybe drafted a little bit higher or I can't believe that guy fell so far. You know it's always fun to get those kind of selections.

[Chief Cummings]

So I started the draft off with Jamar Chase. Michael took Justin Jefferson and immediately somebody had troubles in the draft room. I would guess we'll get through the first round. And that is. He says that Joey Wright, Jamie would like to draft Justin Jefferson one pick after someone drafted Justin Jefferson. Should I give Joey a hard time? No, I would never want to do that. Hopefully somebody else in the draft room can help him again. This is a one quarterback full PPR league with two running backs, two wide receivers, a tight end and two flexes. And Joey is now just going to type the names of the players that he wants in the chat and I will draft for him. Amun Ross St. Brown goes number three overall and I'll be interested Jamie when I look at my rankings at the top of a, of a 1 QB league we basically have seven wide receivers ranked before any running back. So Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Malik Neighbors, Puka Nakua, CD Lamb, A. Monroe, St. Brown, Brian Thomas Jr. I think the first two Chase and Jefferson be pretty clearly separated and then those next five wide receivers could be just about anybody. Jamie is on the clock now with about 20 seconds left. So I'll keep talking about these wide receivers.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No, I don't know if you wanted me to talk through my pick. So I'll just make the pick and then you can.

[Chief Cummings]

Yeah, you're. You're taking Puka Nakua at number four overall. Yeah, I've had people question me like are you worried at all about Matthew Stafford? Does that give you any pause with.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Puka for this upcoming season or for the foreseeable future?

[Chief Cummings]

For the foreseeable future.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So for I think if he's committed to, he's probably going to be a year to year guy for the rest of his career. You know I, I'd be very surprised if he leaves the Rams knowing that this team is young, it was competitive this year. He's got arguably the a top three coach, you know, whoever you want to put. Sean McVeigh, he's in, he's in the upper echelon of coaches so the system has been great for him. He's got clearly one of the best receivers in football. We'll see what they do with Cooper cup but they've been able to find guys basically out of nowhere and so as long as Stafford is still there, I think Naku has a chance to be special. I would anticipate Stafford playing another two or three more years.

[Chief Cummings]

Yeah and I think like if you look at those top seven wide receivers, we've got plenty of reason to have question about Justin Jefferson's quarterback over the, over the extended term. I don't know how much longer Dak Prescott's going to be playing at elite level. We still haven't really seen Trevor Lawrence play yet at the level of Matthew Stafford when he's at his best. And I think what we did see this year was Puka show pretty clearly that he is the number one wide receiver. Looks like Matt Donnelly having a little bit of troubles here this morning as well. So he's going to take Malik Neighbors, we're going to go ahead and just make that pick for him. Speaking of guys who we have reason to question their quarterback situation, although Neighbors may have just shown us this year that that doesn't really matter. So when we get to the running backs which are coming up very quickly. Jamie, do you have a strong preference between Bijan Robinson and Jameer Gibbs?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I would lean toward Bijan simply because the short term should somewhat favor him because Gibbs still sharing with David Montgomery. I would not be surprised if when we get to 2026, if Montgomery might not be on the Lions and Gibbs is the featured guy and we know what that could be. So if you're looking at it maybe from a two year perspective because Gibbs should still be really good and maybe close to Bijan. But Bijan I think showed that in this offense he could be a 20 point per game guy if not more. The way that he closed the season was fantastic and I do expect that this Falcons offense will be a little bit better with Michael Pennix over the course of the season than what we saw with Kirk Cousins.

[Chief Cummings]

Yeah, I think, I think that will be really interesting. The, the sample size we got of Nate of of Pinnocks, I feel more confident that he's going to be better than what Cousins was last year. I think the question is can he be as good as what Cousins was in Minnesota and is Kirk Cousins just completely washed or is he going to be able to support wide receivers at some point in the future? Joel Cox did take Bijan Robinson at pick number seven. Jerry takes Jameer Gibbs right after him and then Brian Thomas Jr goes I think this is the point, Jamie, when those first seven wide receivers go off and the top two running backs in Bijan and Gibbs go off, where you kind of look at the rankings and you've got achan you've got Nico, you've got. I think this is the time when you can consider Brock Bowers. It really opens up after those first nine guys.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah. And you know, Brian Thomas was right after the two running backs. I think he's in that, you know, conversation with the receivers that went ahead of the running backs as well, just given what he showed. But there is some question marks. But look, yeah, I mean, Ryan Robinson, Jameer Gibbs, they're, they're so special and still very young clearly, you know, entering year three for both those guys. So the upside is through the roof. It's gonna be really exciting to see how, how they perform. But yeah, then this is where you start to get some questions, you know, so especially in a one quarterback league, super flex, you'd probably be taking quarterbacks at this point.

[Chief Cummings]

Right.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

But in terms of, you know, where we look at from the receiver standpoint, I think Brian Thomas makes a lot of sense.

[Chief Cummings]

So Adam Azer is not in the draft room on time. He is playing the role of Dan, who is not in today's mock. And so if Azer doesn't show up in the next 45 seconds, Jamie, we're going to pick for him. If you're looking at hn, you're looking at Nico and you're looking at Brock Bo, who's your favorite of those three?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Well, he's a big Nico Collins guy, so I think giving him Nico Collins makes a lot of sense. I don't think he'd be upset about that if we drafted for him. For me, it would probably be, I would probably lean Nico as well. You know, just looking at it, I like to build dynasty startups around receivers. I think that makes a lot of sense just given the longevity of what these guys can do. HN obviously was awesome last year with tua, but there's so many questions because he was awful without tua. Bowers I think is in this range for sure. But if you say that I could get Nico Collins, maybe Trey McBride on the way back, I would try and play that out more so than maybe reaching for Bowers here, if you consider the reach and then trying to get a receiver of Nico Collins stature in round two.

[Chief Cummings]

So I did take Nico. Adam sent me some profanities in a text message and said, I can't believe I forgot. He will be here shortly. Marvin Harrison Jr. Goes 11th overall. And I, I, he is a guy that I kind of struggle with, Jamie, because like it's, and I think in everybody's rankings he has moved back from where he was, which was a consensus top five wide receiver as soon as he showed up. But I think we might get a rebound with him, kind of like we have with Jackson, Smith and Jigba as well. Are there any rookie wide receivers besides Neighbors and Brian Thomas Jr. That you would take over Harrison in a startup?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So anybody from last year's class. McConkey.

[Chief Cummings]

You take McConkey over him?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, I think what he showed last year, you know, especially in an offense that I'm hoping. And I know we've had some conversations about this. Once they were eliminated last week, you weren't on the shows. Like Dave Richard, our colleague, was. Was pretty. I don't want to say adamant, but I. I think hope is. Is probably the best word to assign to it. That the second half of the season when they allowed Justin Herbert to throw the ball a little bit more, and we're talking, you know, going from 27, 28 passes per game to maybe like 32, 33. So it's not a big leap.

[Chief Cummings]

Right.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

But that though, that opening up the offense a little bit will just be better for everybody involved in the passing game. Now the question is, do they go out and get somebody? Because I'm of the belief that this is a team that is not just looking at receiver, but also tight end. Because I don't think Will Disley is the answer there. And based on Greg Roman's offense and the history there, clearly, you know, go back to Mark Andrews and what he had in Baltimore, I would not be surprised if they try and get aggressive with the playmaking tight end. So it could be that. But I do think they're going to add somebody there, so. So if you're still talking about 32, 33 pass attempts, the target share may not be as good as what it could be for Marvin Harrison. That said, McConkey was just so special. I like him slightly ahead of Harrison going into next year and for the future.

[Chief Cummings]

I want to give our. Our audience a little bit of credit here. I always get a little bit nervous when you're drafting with guys and you're doing a live show and you've never drafted with them before and you want to make sure everything goes okay. We had a few delays in round one. They were all analysts, people whose names you would recognize. The people who we selected from Twitter did a fantastic job with their round one picks. We are done with round one. Let's take a look at the results. Jamie, you can tell me what stands out to you. So Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson and Monroe St. Brown are the first three picks, followed by Puka Nakua, Malik Neighbors and CD Lamb. Then Bijan Robinson, Jameer Gibbs and Brian Thomas Jr. Nico Collins, Marvin Harrison Jr. And Brock Bowers round out round one. That's Chase Jefferson, Saint Brown, Nakua Neighbors, Lamb, Bijon Gibbs, Thomas, Nico Harrison Jr. And Brock Bowers. Any big surprises there for you?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think just really Harrison, you know if, if he's you know going to develop into the player that we hope he can become, which is still well within reach. And, and I've said this a few times on our other stream on fantasy football today, his rookie numbers were almost identical to his father's. You know it, it's, it's a pretty good spot to be in. You know we just saw two great rookie performances from Neighbors and, and Thomas. I think that kind of changed the perception a little bit. But he, he's got a little bit of a way to go and you know, hopefully we'll get there. Otherwise I think this is pretty normal. You know, two running backs and the rest receivers and one tenant.

[Chief Cummings]

So the, the first pick of round two is Saquon Barkley. And I said way too many dumb things in 2024 about Saquon Barkley. One of my resolutions to say fewer dumb things about him this year but he is going to be 28 years old and he's a running back. He also has been maybe the best player in football this year. How do you do you view Barkley as a really, you can only count on one more year or do you get a two year window there?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So I just wrote this on the site Yesterday that on cbsports.com that the history of running backs coming off a 2,000 yard season, there's only been eight of them is not great. And the, the decline, the best season after a 2000 yard season was only a 500 yard decline. Only for the most part. Six of the eight guys declined by 870 yards or more for the most part. There's a touchdown decline and we're talking about a guy in Barkley that went only scored 13 rushing touchdowns, 15 total in the regular season. You're, you're taking a hit in two spots that aren't sustainable for him to be elite if he loses the rushing yards and the touchdowns because he wasn't a big factor in the past game. 33 catches on 40 targets. So it's a big ask for him to continue to do this. And two of the guys, two of the eight significant injuries, Terrell Davis, you know that basically ended his career after his 2000 yard season and Derrick Henry, that was the year he had a foot injury was 2021. So it's not a great situation to be in coming off this amazing season. So I'm a little concerned. I would not take him in that spot. No.

[Chief Cummings]

And Jamie is on the clock again. This is a, a Dynasty startup so you're not going to see Saquon Barkley available in round two of any Redraft drafts this year. We'll be pretty happy to get him at that spot in Redraft but in Dynasty, the running back position, the age of Barkley, all a little bit concerning. I we have again kind of a little bit of almost a running back run at the start of this drought round. We have Barkley and then Achan goes to two picks later. Bree hall goes three picks later. Joey Wright just found a buccaneer to draft. He takes Bucky Wright, Bucky Irving with with the 22nd pick of the draft. Jamie, you had to be thrilled the lad McGonkey fell to you in the late in round two.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, I was looking at the two receivers that actually the three receivers that went, you know, back to back to back. So it was, I was hoping one of those three would land to me. Drake London. Jackson's been The Jigma and Lad McConkey. London would have been my preferred choice. McConkey was second and then JSN third. I'm hopeful that JSN with the new coordinator Clint Kubiak now in Seattle, will still be featured as he was. We've talked about this a little bit on our show on on the other Fantasy Football Today stream that DK Metcalf may end up as a cab casualty, a June 1 cut. I'd be surprised by that. But there's still the potential out there. Jason's in a great spot. But again, I like the, the setup for McConkey going into year two and what he should be able to do.

[Chief Cummings]

So we've made it through two rounds. It is a 1 QB draft. We've seen no quarterbacks taken yet and I, I think we've gotten to the point to where we start looking in round four in Redraft. Does that change for you at all in DY Dynasty? Because they're, they do have a longer Runway than most these other positions. You get an elite quarterback, you might have him for a decade. At what point in Dynasty do you start looking for the top quarterbacks?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think this is, this is the spot. You know, you look at Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, I think Jane Daniel certainly makes a ton of sense clearly with what he did as a rookie. So those three are and you know Burrow belongs there. I guess Jalen Hurts belongs are also the top five guys that I know I have for for Redraft are pretty similar for Dynasty as well. They're all young. They're all, you know, elite talents. Do you put Daniels ahead of the other guys because of his age and or do you still go Alan Jackson in some order?

[Chief Cummings]

Yeah, it's it's still Allen and Jackson and then Mahomes and Burrow. For me with Daniels, I he was awesome as a rookie. I I need to see in year two does he take a step forward or does he take a step back? And his awesomeness as a rookie was fantastic for rookie production. But in terms of actual fantasy production, unless you want to break it up and azer stat it into the second half of the season, it wasn't exactly elite. Let's take our first break and then we'll break down round two.

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[Chief Cummings]

Round two results here. Jamie Saquon Barkley, Garrett Wilson, Devon Achian, then AJ Brown, Trey McBride, Breeze Hall, Drake London, Jackson Smith and Jigba Lad McConkey, Bucky Irving, T. Higgins and Kyron Williams. I took Kyron Williams at the 24th pick, I know I'm higher on him than consensus. At some point, are we going to accept that he's just an elite fantasy running back, or do you think the doubts continue going into next year?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I don't think the doubts continue. You know, it. And this is, I think, an interesting Redraft Dynasty conversation with a player like him, because how sustainable is it for the future? You know, for a guy that isn't exactly built like a typical workhorse back, and I don't know if they ever viewed him that way. He's sort of fallen into that role and been amazing in that role. It felt as if last year that they were looking for a supplement, not a replacement, but a supplement, and it never came to fruition. Whether it was he was just too good, too valuable, or Blake Corum was never that guy for them, but it feels like they've been trying to find someone to help him. And will that eventually turn to someone that replaces him is my concern. So I think for the short term. So, like, if you're looking, I'm. I'm in win now mode. I think Kyron Williams makes a ton of sense in that spot. If you're looking, I want a guy for the next two, three years. I don't know if he's a 20, 26 and beyond type of player.

[Chief Cummings]

Yeah, that's. I mean, that's. With guys like that, I think you could say the same thing about Bucky. That low cost, high production, that those guys can fall off. But it feels like the entire time that Kyron's been doing this, we've just been waiting for him to fall off. And so I'm still pretty comfortable with him about this range of the draft. I think he's a top 10 dynasty running back for sure. Looking at the start of round three, I took Jordan Addison, then Jonathan Taylor, Zay Flowers. You took Rashi Rice. I want to talk about Rice versus Worthy for next year and for Dynasty because Worthy's really in the. Both the playoffs and the second half of the season looking like a lot like what Rushy Rice did last year. You still feel like Rice is going to be the number one in this offense when he's healthy and when he's not suspended.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I. I'm terrified. But I. I think just based on first off, there's so many things to play. We talked about this on. On Monday's show on Fantasy Football today. Is Kelsey back? Is Rice suspended? Is Rice hurt? You know, coming into the season? So all those things, let's just Assume everybody's back. Does Rice step back into the, the go to role that he had in the first three games before he got hurt where Worthy was yet to establish himself and obviously Kelsey was, you know, probably still managing snaps. I don't know where he's been so awesome in four of the last five games. You know, he didn't have the best playoff game against the Texans, but he was still second on team target. So he's been so good. Those four, those four games. Five games. Excuse me, does he, you know, just build off that, another strong game in the super bowl potentially and then we'll see. And if Kelsey's gone, I think both guys can be amazing because then we're talking about. Okay, I don't think Mahomes ever or Reed ever forced the ball to Travis Kelsey. I think it's just a natural, you know, flow of the offense. They get him going but if he's not there, I don't think, let's just say it's, it's a Noah Gray or another, you know, non hall of Fame caliber tight end, then you're looking at two first round caliber receivers who could just be amazing and they both can eat, you know, so it wouldn't shock me if kelsey decides, okay, three Pete, I'm done. And, and these two guys go off and, and become top 20 caliber receivers. Kind of like how we view and whatever, you know, your description of them is the Eagles guys, the Dolphins guys, you know, two guys that could be just, you know, pretty, pretty successful in a high scoring offense.

[Chief Cummings]

Well, I think one of the best things is that it's not hard to see how Rice and Worthy can complement each other. Especially if the Chiefs can get back to the best version of their offense. And you have Xavier Worthy playing a downfield Tyreek Hill role and you have Rashi Rice playing that underneath Travis Kelsey role, then you could see 50 of the targets going to those two guys. If there's no Travis Kelsey or during the portion of the season that Travis Kelsey feels like he doesn't really need to give, I would, I wouldn't say not give 100. They just don't have to use them all the way for the, you know, two or three months. Let's take a look at round three, which just wrapped up ice again. I started with Jordan Addison, then Jonathan Taylor and Zay Flowers. Rashi Rice, Jameson Williams, Roma Dun, Devonte Smith, Jaylen Waddle, Tyreek Hill, then James Cook. And here come the quarterbacks, Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, the last two picks of round three. So Addison Taylor, Flowers, Rice Williams, Adun Smith, Waddle, Hill, Cook, Jackson and Josh Allen. When you look at that trio of even really four, but Roma, Dunze, Devonte Smith, Jalen Waddle, Tyree Kill, I think there's a ton of potential in those guys, but there's reasons to doubt all of them going into next year. Smith, when everybody's been healthy, hasn't quite been the guy. Tyreek took a bit big step back last year as a, as a guy who's over 30. Waddle wasn't the same guy and we haven't seen Roma Dunes do that. Who do you feel is the safest of this group in Dynasty?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I do think it's Waddle mostly because you may have number one receiver for the Dolphins this year, almost certainly number one receiver for the Dolphins in 2026. And so you may take some may take a hit this season if Hill comes back and they kind of run the offense the same way where he's almost the the 23 as opposed to firmly entrenched as a 2 and as we saw two years ago where he was the 1B, you know, and it was, it was a disappointment. But if they decide to move on from Tyree Kill, I mean I wouldn't be surprised if we're talking about Jalen Waddle, where I took McConkey, if not where London and and JSN went. I mean that's the upside that he has. So to me he's, he's, he's safe to an extent. And upside may be the best of the round.

[Chief Cummings]

Adam Azer would now like to have a pick back. Unhappy with his DJ Moore selection at the start of round four.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

He just made it and then he.

[Chief Cummings]

Also like he didn't even get auto picked. He made the pick and now he's swapped it to Chris Olave and I don't even know which one of those guys I have ranked higher is. Did Azer make a good choice? There is Chris Olave over DJ Moore at this point.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, you know, Keenan Allen's certainly no guarantee to come back and if he does, you know, it's not a long term situation. There you have coordinator that you love now as the head coach. Guy calling plays in Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams on the rise. Like I would prefer DJ More with the uncertainty in, in New Orleans over.

[Chief Cummings]

The I do have Olave one spot higher but two picks later Terry McLaurin is taken and I have him three spots higher. And the next pick is Xavier Worthy and I have him 10 spots higher. So it's it's a wide receiver run. I'm not necessarily, don't necessarily love the order those guys went in. You mentioned Jaden Daniels. Joel Cox takes him with pick 42. It doesn't seem like Jamie, there's really any concern from anybody about Jaden Daniels doing anything other than building on this and being better next year. But we didn't really have any concern at this point last year about CJ Stroud taking a step back. Right.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No, I think the difference is, is that one guy can still make plays with his legs, you know, and that saves his fantasy production. You. We had this conversation. I think it was on Fantasy Football Express, me and Adam Mazer exactly the thing that you, you brought up. So there, there could certainly be some regression for, for Jane Daniels as a passer. But then I think when you talk about him as a fantasy option, his legs should save. I mean 800 yards rushing as a rookie quarterback is pretty impressive. And there was that stretch where he had the rib injury where he didn't run as much. So we could be Talking about a 900 to a thousand yard rusher. Especially if things really start to go south for him as a passer, then maybe he relies on that a little bit more. So I don't know if he's going to get to what lamar did as a 4900 guy like you saw this season. But 3, 500 and, and 8, I think that's well within range of, of the outcomes for him.

[Chief Cummings]

And we see Sam Laporta. I was just kind of thinking about like when does the next tight end come off the board? And the end of round four seems like a pretty good place for Sam Laporta. Trying to update my list here. It's funny. Azer sent DJ Moore back into the pool and 10 picks later nobody's taking DJ Moore. It might be my selection here if Michael lets him fall to me at the end of round four. Somebody just said are there two James Cooks? Well, I don't, I don't think there are, but there might be. I, I wonder if somebody got got a draft sent back and Joey Wright in the chat. Joey Wright drafting Buccaneers and Lions, a tale as old as time. I actually invited Joey to come on the show with us today, Jamie, because there's a lot of fantasy analysts who don't want to talk to me after the last couple of weeks and what the Chiefs did to the Bills. But you know, Joey's team's Tampa Bay the last team to beat Kansas City in a Super Bowl. And so Joey still likes to talk to me because he's got that to hold over my head. DJ Moore taken by Michael with pick 47. It feels like we get to this range and you might start thinking like is, is there a quarterback or a tight end that I feel okay about? I'm going to go ahead and take Mahomes here to lock that down and then I'm going to take Chris Godwin. We don't really think that he's much of a, an injury risk for next year. Right. Like the, the ankle injury did cause him to go on ir, but it's not a situation like the ACL where we might have a. In response to the missed time. Are you expecting a fully healthy Chris Godwin next year?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, I mean it's like you said, it's not the, the, the worst case scenario of, of injuries. And so the, the upside is amazing. You know, the only concern would be is does he, does he lose some value if he goes to a different team? And so what does he look like if he's not the slot receiver for Tampa Bay? Granted it's a new coordinator, things could change dramatically anyway. But there's still so much to like about what he did healthy this past season that he has the chance to still be one of the best players at his position. So over 19 PPR points per game was, was pretty impressive. You might have to give me a second because I was expecting to take a quarterback here and they all went.

[Chief Cummings]

We did have a quarterback run. Let's. I will run through round four here while Jamie is making his pick. So DK Metcalf, George Pickens and Chris Olave start the round. Then Terry McClure and Xavier Worthy and Jaden Daniels, Brandon Ayuk, Chase Brown and Josh Jacobs, Sam Laporta, DJ Moore and I took Patrick Mahomes. That was Metcalf, Pickens, Olave, McLaurin, Worthy, Daniels, Ayuk, Brown, Jacobs, Laporta Moore and Patrick Mahomes. And, and the, the quarterback run that Jamie was talking about is just kind of what happened right after I took Patrick Mahomes. Because I took Mahomes. And then two picks later it's Burrow. And then right after that it's Jalen Hurts. And Jamie is left without an elite quarterback to take. And so you take George Kittle. Does a pick like that, Jamie, a 31 year old tight end in round five, change the direction of the rest of your draft. Is this now a win now team?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No, I think it's bounced, you know, so I wouldn't be Surprised if he's got another two, three years of, of just doing this, you know especially with you know Brock Purdy most likely getting locked up in the receiving core sort of being in flux a little bit. You know most likely within the next three years, you know you might not have half a season of Brandon IUK this year. Debo Samuel clearly has fallen off. He may be gone soon, maybe gone this year. Ricky Pierce all does he ascend to a go to guy and Juwan Jennings is he a go to guy. So I think George Kittle's still going to be one of the best, most productive tight ends and I have enough of talent to go that route if I want to go win now especially with you know, young receivers that are going to be productive at the start of my draft and a running back that I think has another two years maybe of being one of the better players at his position. So we'll see what the next couple of rounds bring. So Kittle may be the, the determining factor of how I approach this but I think I could be competitive this year and still be able to you know build a roster that should be.

[Chief Cummings]

Competitive for fears Joel takes TJ Hawkins and not long after you took Kittle and that's, that's somebody I was considering at the 4 or 5 turn. Very interested interested to see where he went if I didn't take him going into next year he will be 28 years old so three years younger than KD obviously three years older than somebody like Trey McBride and hasn't feels like Hawkinson Jamie is a pretty safe bet to be slightly better than replacement like we see these guys that they Dallas Goddard seems to end up right around nine or 10 fantasy points per game. I'm expecting better from than that from Hawkinson but I'm not sure we're getting a true difference maker either.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I, I, it's going to be hard to say because who's the quarterback there, you know, you know Kirk Cousins when he was there before Hawkinson got hurt was able to support all three guys. You know Jefferson was obviously great and, and it was kind of disjointed if you go back to the final season but I'm looking more beginning of the of the year before Jefferson's hamstring injury and even going back to 2022 and Kevin O'Connell's first season there. Addison had his moments. It would have been interesting for you to do that because you took Addison so to put yourself all in on the vikings with Is JJ McCarthy good? Is he the answer Is Sam Darnold coming back? You know, there's a lot of questions with it with, with the Vikings offense to the point where you want to be in bed with two of the three and one of them not being Jefferson.

[Chief Cummings]

Right. I think like the, the main question is probably is JJ McCarthy good and. Or does it even matter because was Sam Darnold good? Azer just took Jerry Judy with the 58th pick of this.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I considered him.

[Chief Cummings]

Yeah, it's another guy who, like, who is his quarterback and can he. He's given us these flashes. Had a couple of flashes in Denver. A huge flash for a third of the season last year where he looks like a number one wide receiver and then there's been times where he's barely a replacement level player. Two guys went right before Judy, though were Christian McCaffrey and Derek Henry. And I asked you the question, Jamie, with George Kittle. But if you're taking McCaffrey or Henry this early, you're definitely looking win now, right?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think you have to, you know, and it's an interesting build for team nine. I don't see the name Joseph maybe.

[Chief Cummings]

Yeah.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

To go with Tyree Kill and then Derek Henry, you have to be win now.

[Chief Cummings]

Right.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You know, if, if you commit to those two players in the first, you know, six picks, it just makes sense, you know, so you have, you know, obviously young stud And Brian Thomas Jr. You have, you know, still very players in their prime that are going to be productive in A.J. brown and Terry McLaurin, but you have two guys that if they hit this year, you're going to be in great shape. If they fall off, as we saw with Tyree Kill, for example, then you're going to be in trouble. So this has got to be. You have to commit to win them.

[Chief Cummings]

So Jonathan Brooks goes at the end of round five. And one of my top remaining players is actually Chuba Hubbard.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Same.

[Chief Cummings]

And I, I just don't. I. I loved Jonathan Brooks talent coming into the NFL so much, but I don't know that we're going to see him at all next year. And then who is he now that he's had these, these major injuries? It just feels like you almost have to view Brooks as a mystery box, that you're just sitting on IR for the next year and you hope that he can be. It's, it's. Is it as bad as how the J.K. dobbin situation felt at this time last year? Probably not quite. Because he's not quite as. I mean, he's three or four years Younger than John then, then he does. But it's still a very risky proposition to have Brooks on your roster. Jamie, we saw the old running backs go before the old wide receivers. Are you getting close to the point to where you're considering a Devonte Adams, a Mike Evans, somebody in that group?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think you should. And honestly again, that that should be what Joseph is targeting, you know, somebody that has a chance. No, not so much Adams, I think, but Evans, who could still be productive for at least one more season and you know where he is with the quarterback that he is, that he has, you know, as opposed to. We don't know where Devonte Adams is going to play. So yeah, you know, Evans is, is, is great value at this point, you know, and then it becomes a question of some of these other older players, you know, not to, you know, put put out players are still available when the draft. But you know, Alva Kamara still out there. You know, if you're looking at, you know, a guy who was, you know, productive last year, Joe Mixon and what he showed, you know, there are still some players that for one year, if you're committed to it, they can really help you and help you in a big way.

[Chief Cummings]

I think I'm going to have to make a pick for Jacob. I pray praised the, the listeners just a little bit too soon. So his team, Josh Allen, Saquan Barkley, DK Metcalf and Brock Bowers. You mentioned Joe Mixon. I think this would be a good team to put Joe Mixon on at running back. And then my top wide receiver in the Dynasty rankings is actually. Oh, he says he picked Shakir and Chuba. He did not, but we're going to get that done for him. Jamie Khalil, Shakir. What how likely do you think it is that we see the Bills at a number one wide receiver?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think it's very likely. You know, I mean you look at what this team was, was lacking and look, give them credit. They tried mid season. They thought Amari Cooper was going to be somebody that could come in and help him. 30 year old guy looked like he was totally washed up, which was disappointing. So I'm, you know, a guy that I would consider in this round is Keon Coleman. You know, so if he makes it back there, he'll certainly be somebody I'm interested in. And I think if you're talking about this format redraft, I would take Shakira over Coleman Dynasty. I'd be taking Coleman over secure because if Coleman hits, he could be special If Shakir hits, I think we see what he is, you know, top 30 receiver at best. I don't think he's ever going to be a top 20 guy. Keon Coleman has that potential if things go right.

[Chief Cummings]

We talked about Isaiah Pacheco, who was just drafted by azer at pick 63. And I think that our general consensus as we think that he's going to bounce back and be himself. But if the team brings back Kareem Hunt on a almost nothing deal, does it even matter if Pacheco's all the way back? It's going to be some sort of timeshare, right?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think it's just what you're looking at, short term versus long term. I still think that if Pacheco is right, he's their best running back. I mean, you know, Kareem Hunt did a great job for them. I mean, one of the certain, certainly best free agent signings preseason and mid season, you know, for what he, he brought to this team and, you know, gave them some presence of a running game. Certainly was great in finding the end zone. Can he, can he do that if Pacheco is Pacheco? That's such a weird pick for, For Joseph to take McMillan there. I love it.

[Chief Cummings]

Yeah. I mean, it's not. You don't say it's a weird pick because of the timing of it.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No.

[Chief Cummings]

Yeah.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I love the round. You know, he, again, he was somebody I considered the previous round. I just thought it was a little too soon. Thought maybe he'd make it back to me. But just the build, you know, if, like, if Godwin comes back to Tampa Bay. This is a horrible pick for him for, for the way his structure is.

[Chief Cummings]

Right. Yeah, it's. And this is the thing, like there are people that go through startups and they want to be good now and later. I always talk about how like I, I'm gonna commit to winning it now, right now, or I'm building for the future. Some people. I think what Scott White used to say in fantasy baseball is waves, not windows. He just was always going to have a good team. And listen, if you can make that work, I think it's more difficult if you're playing in a league with 11 guys who are all really paying attention. Let's take a look at the round five results. I took Chris Godwin, then Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts, George Kittle, Ken Walker, Jaden Reed, TJ Hawkinson, Christian McCaffrey, Derek Henry, Jerry Judy, Jonathan Brooks and Khalil Shakir to finish off the round. That Ken Walker pick. I had a couple people in the chat saying they were sniped. I have absolutely no idea how to rank Walker and Zach Charbonnet, Jamie. And it sure feels like the best case scenario is if one of these guys could end up on a different team for we're at least one more year away from that, I think.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So I, I would still lean toward Walker just based on, you know, what he showed when he was healthy in terms of usage. And again, you know, we don't know what, what Kubia new offensive coordinator there is going to do, but I would hope that there's, you know, maybe closer to a 50, 50 split to give these guys an opportunity to maybe stand out each individually because we haven't really seen that from Charbonnet when, when Walker has been healthy. But look, Walker, the ceiling is higher. It feels like the ceiling's higher for, for Walker. You know, it's just, can they throw them the ball a little bit more? Can charm to get a little bit more work on, on. On obvious rushing downs? That's the question for each guy.

[Chief Cummings]

You took Ricky pearsall with pick 69. I know when I drafted for someone earlier this off season, one of the things they said was, please make sure you get me Ricky Pearsall. Is this a bet like Jalen McMillan on one of the 49ers being gone next year, or is it a bet on Brandon Iuk just not being healthy? Do you think there's a path for Pierce hall to succeed if they don't trade anybody?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I do. You know, and we saw it in the, the second to last game. I think it was week 17, week 16, one of those two games. He, he was featured and he stood out. I mean, look, the guy went through, obviously a nightmare start to his career, getting shot, you know, slow in training camp and then playing behind, you know, a pretty established receiving core. When you factor in Juwan Jennings as well, there, there is a move coming. If it's not this season, it's next season, you know, where most likely Debo Samuel is the one that's gone because they extended Brandon Ayu. Does he get the opportunity to, to do that in year two or are we waiting for year three? So short term, yes, there's, there's a path to him to have success. If he gets off to a good start with the idea of, of Ayuk not being ready. There also is a chance that they can move on from Debo and he's. He's great now. There also could be a situation where he's you know, got to be worked into to the rotation and we don't see the best of him for several, for several months and maybe not to 20, 26. So it's a gambler. But I think just given the way that I, I have this, you know, build to my team, it's a gamble I'm willing to take because I have three receivers. I, I hopefully figure out second flex if I need to for, for this season. I'll, I'll backfill running back if I need to. And the way that I played it just because of the quarterbacks, I'm going to take Caleb Williams here. So hopefully, you know, he's, he's a guy that can be a successful QB one but also with a chance to be, you know, special long term. Just knowing what they, what they did.

[Chief Cummings]

With their coaching staff that was risky. As you said you were taking Caleb Williams there with Joey, getting ready to make a selection. Hopefully he doesn't.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think he's got a quarterback.

[Chief Cummings]

He took a quarterback right before you. He's been having some troubles with seeing who was available in the draft room and now as I read back through the chat, looks like I might have drafted somebody that Joey was wanting to draft. I'm sorry that I took Joe Mixon from you, Joey, but now that you've picked Caleb Williams, Jamie, there's we. I mentioned him a round ago and he's still available. Devonte Adams, 32 years old, showed up in the middle of the season in New York and basically pushed Garrett Wilson into Wide Receiver 2 status. We don't know for sure what team he's going to play on. We don't know for sure who his quarterback's going to be. But did Devonte Adams show you enough last year to where in most situations you're going to view him as a must start wide receiver this year?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No, I'm not going to view him as a must start wide receiver because of the uncertainty. Yes, he's got the potential to still be a must start wide receiver. Obviously he defied my biggest concern which is generally age. Right. Can he do that without Aaron Rodgers? Because he wasn't great without Rogers to start the season. You know, when it was the quarter the crappy quarterbacks in Las Vegas, he wasn't great with Jimmy Garoppolo the year before, you know, when there was the crappy quarterback situation there. So I don't think he's just, he, he's, he's foolproof. I think there's still definitely a lot of questions it's just a matter of can he overcome them. I would be surprised if. I'm sorry, it wouldn't surprise me if he's back with the jets and they run it back again because there's not a lot of answers out there to, to solve the jets immediate problem. You know, is there a quarterback that just walks in and is the starter? Well, no, they're not in the best draft spot either. And if you're going to bring back Rogers, why would you not bring back Devonte Adams and try and make this at least somewhat of a competitive offense while Aaron Glenn. Glenn retools the defense and gets them into a situation where they might back into, back, back themselves into the playoffs and maybe accomplish some of the things that they were hoping to accomplish when last year started.

[Chief Cummings]

I, I think you're right. It's just for a new head coach to, who's trying to assert himself as the leader of a team to deal with the situation that is Aaron Rodgers and everything he brings with it, it seems like a really hard way to have success. Like how, how do you get those guys to believe that you're in charge and that Aaron Rodgers is not in charge? But yeah, if it's Rogers and Adams back on the jets, then I think you're probably ranking Devonte Adams the top 20 wide receiver and he's a, he's a steal in Dynasty where Adam just took him at pick 82. Good job. Adam Azer, maybe the first good pick of the draft. I shouldn't say that. Let's take a look at Adam's team, Jamie, and you can tell me how many good picks he's made. So he does not have a quarterback yet, but it's one quarterback. He doesn't care. His running backs are Devon Achan and James Cook with Isaiah Pacheco on the bench at wide receiver, he has Nico Collins, Chris Olave, Jerry Judy and Devonte Adams. No quarterback or tight end yet.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think it's a team that can compete right away. That goes without saying. Nico Collins is one of the best in football. The running backs are proven at least prove themselves last year to be two of the best and Pacheco, when healthy, could be there. And as we just discussed with Devonte Adams, there's a chance for him to be a good number two. Now the question is, what is he looking at beyond the season? Because we know the lifespan on, on running backs and Pacheco's lifespan may have expired already based on, you know, the broken leg. And as you alluded to, if Cream Hunt comes back next year. Does ever get back to being the featured guy or the Chiefs eventually replace him if in fact it's a shared situation? Judy's got no quarterback that we like right now. Olave's got no quarterback that we like right now. And Adams may be out of the league as early as 2026, so he better start looking at it as this is a win now team as opposed to a team that you're going to build for the future.

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[Chief Cummings]

Plus, let's run a. I hope he's listening. Hope he can make that change on the fly. Let's run through round six results as we've almost finished up round seven here. Jacob started us off with Chuba Hubbard, then Mike Evans, Isaiah Pacheco, Jalen McMillan, Keon Coleman, David Montgomery, Tyrone Tracy, Michael Pittman, Ricky Pearsall, Tony Pollard, Alvin Kamara and Joe Mixon. If you're choosing between Camara and Joe Mixon, which one is your preference right now?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Jamie, I believe mixing just because he's slightly younger and at least I, I like his offensive environment more right now than I do for, for Camara. But, you know, look, ppr, it's hard to, you know, continue to bet against Camara because he's just got so much upside as we saw over 19 PPR points per game.

[Chief Cummings]

We saw Michael Pittman go in that round also, and I think it was. I took Josh Downs at the next turn. I think a lot of people are going to have a lot of apprehension about the Colts pass catchers just not knowing what the situation is with Anthony Richardson. Do you feel better about it if they bring a Flacco or someone like that to be the backup so they have an escape route or you just. Those guys are boom bust flex options.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think they're boom bus flex options. But obviously as we saw when, when there was a more capable quarterback in there from a passing standpoint point, they look much better. So you know, I like the fact that Anthony Richardson is working with a quarterback coach that hopefully can fix his mechanics. I like the fact that, you know, the, the team is going to be committed to him, that that's important. They're bringing back the same offensive coaching staff. I think that's important too. And let's see what they do with, with the full year from starting. Hopefully he stays healthy and those receivers can make some plays. So yeah, I'm still encouraged.

[Chief Cummings]

We have reached the Darnell Mooney, Ramandre Stevenson portion.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Two guys I just queued up as a matter of fact.

[Chief Cummings]

Two guys you just queued up? Yeah, I wasn't saying that because they reached for them. I was just saying because like we do get to a point, especially this time of year when there aren't any rookies in there. So we, we kind of lost some of the older guys but we don't have the rookies to replace them yet. Things to look a little thin right around that 78 turn. Let's take our second break and they'll recap round seven. I started round seven off with Josh Downs. Then we saw Cortland Sutton, Brian Robinson Jr. And Caleb Williams. Dalton, Kincaid, James, Connor, Debo, Samuel, Romeo, Dos, Mark Andrews, Devonte Adams. That's down. Sutton, Robinson, Williams, Kincaid, Connor, Debo Dobbs, Andrews, Adams, ETN and Mooney at ETN before Tank Bigsby. Do you have a strong lane there or should those guys just go very close to each other?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'm hoping that, you know, Liam Cohen can bring out the best of, of Travis Etienne. Look, Tank Bigsby did some nice things last year. He doesn't have the upside that ETN has, you know, as we know as a pass catcher. So should they go close to each other? Yeah, relatively close. Is there more upside for etn? For me, yes, that's. That's the answer.

[Chief Cummings]

Well, I think like people see Liam Cohen going there and, and we know what the running back position could be. I think we probably get a committee and hopefully ETN is the guy who's doing all the pass catching work. So in this we will get a. Holy cow. Jamie Azer is screwing up the draft again. I think I, we Didn't we had Travis Kelsey auto pick and so I wonder what, what's your feeling right now about the likelihood that we are going to get a Travis Kelsey season in 2026 or do you think this is the end?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think if they win, he comes back. I think if they lose, depending on how he feels, they're done, he's done.

[Chief Cummings]

If they win, he comes back. If they lose, he might.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I don't think he wants to be a part of not. I don't think he wants to give up the opportunity to continue to be a part of history.

[Chief Cummings]

Right.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So I think if they lose, like okay, our run ended, it's not done because Reed and Mahomes are still there. But if we win, man, I can't walk away from four going for four.

[Chief Cummings]

So. So we have seen both Dalton Kincaid and Dave and Najoku go before Travis Kelsey who hasn't been drafted yet. Or if you had a promise that Travis Kelsey was playing next year, would you take either one of those guys over Kelsey?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I would take Najoku over Kelsey. I would not take Kincaid over Kelsey. I'm nerd. I was, I was a as big a Kincaid guy as you could find last year. Thought he was going to have a huge season with what the receiving core looked like for Buffalo and the, the some promise that he showed as a rookie. And look, he, he, he may, he may. The injury may have, you know, somewhat stifled what was starting to get going a little bit it. But what a disappointment that was. You know, forget about the drop in the playoffs. That was a tough call, a tough play, right? It was, it was just, you know, pretty, pretty upsetting to see the way that he performed last season and the lack of usage. I mean they gave so many snaps to Dawson Knox though.

[Chief Cummings]

We just had Rich Cooling, who I haven't said his name yet. Thanks for being here, Rich. Take Tank Dell in the middle of round eight. Is Tank Dell like Jonathan Brooks just kind of a draft them and stash them for the year? We hope they're good in 2026.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I hope so. You know, I mean it. It's another guy that feels like we could be looking at a disappointing career just based on the injuries that he sustained. You know, this is a tough one to come back from and you know, I'm hopeful. I have a lot of expectations for him because he's looked so good, but man, that was a, that was a tough injury. So hopefully he can get himself back right. And, and looking like the running back that we. We started to see I, I think.

[Chief Cummings]

I, I would be more likely to not entirely give up on him, but maybe kind of write him off because of the injuries if it wasn't for the fact that, like, you still can't watch a Texans game without hearing about what great friends, CJ Stroud and Tank Dell.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right.

[Chief Cummings]

So I think like, that's just kind of the way that the world works. Those types of relationships get you a little bit more opportunities. And so I, I still am pretty optimistic and hopeful that once he is 100 healthy, he's going to get another chance. I'm less optimistic that he's going to be able stay healthy once it gets to that point.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yep.

[Chief Cummings]

Zach Charbonnet was just taken and I want to make sure that I did. Sometimes I miss things and I missed the Tank Bigsby was still available. So I'll take Quinton Johnston and Tank Bigsby at the round eight, Round nine turn. Let's recap Round eight. We'll take a look at Jamie's team. Take a look at my team so far. We will finish this draft, even though we're not going to finish on the podcast. We will finish it and I will publish results either later today or early tomorrow. Always love it when Joey says dang you, Heath in the chat even got an exclamation point. It's a, it's a January mock and we're getting fired up. I absolutely Love it. Round 8. Ramandre Stevenson, Rico Dowdle, David Ajoku, Justin Herbert, Cooper Cup, Calvin ridley, Tank Dell, CJ Stroud, DeAndre Swift, Rashad Bateman, Zach Charbonnet, Quentin Johnston. I, I think Swift is the guy Jamie, who is either you took him, he's either being drafted way too low or it's going to be a very sad 2025 for him because the same thing that happened last time he's with Ben Johnson's going to happen. You're still pretty optimistic about Swift and Johnson together, right?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'm not very optimistic. I mean, you know, when we're talking about nearly pick 100 here of running backs that are available, I'm looking for upside and I do think that there's still upside for him.

[Chief Cummings]

Right.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You know, going into the offense that he's going to play in. You know, so there, there's a couple different versions of the Lions backfield. He was part of that under Ben Johnson when, you know, I think is what you're kind of talking about in that he wasn't great with Ben Johnson, but he's still average, I think, you know, well, north of 4 yards per carry, did have a lot of explosive plays. He just lost touchdowns to Jamal Williams and that's kind of been his, you know, problem is that he loses touchdowns to other players. So could that be Roshan Johnson? Sure. Could he be the Jameer Gibbs? You know, 70 of that, 60 of that, that'd be pretty good in the spot, you know, so he's tied to them for at least one more season, maybe two. And if he has the opportunity to play at a high level, then I think this is a great pick. But like you said, it's a little bit of more desperation than necessarily a slam dunk. Okay. I feel comfortable that I just took DeAndre Swift as my second running back.

[Chief Cummings]

So let's take a look at my team here. You, you hurt Matt's feelings. If nothing else, he didn't like that Dobbins pick. So good job there in round nine. I've Mahomes at quarterback. My running backs are Kyron Williams, Joe Mixon and Tank Bigsby. At wide receiver I have Jamar Chase, Jordan Addison, Chris Godwin, Josh Downs and Quinton Johnston. There is still still no tight end on my roster. I'll. I'll have to take Kelsey if he makes it another round there. But when you look at those wide receivers, I think I'm probably a little bit higher. I know I am on Addison and maybe on Downs. Is this receiving core good enough? Jamie Chase, Addison, Godwin Downs and Johnson.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

A lot of questions, you know, most mostly with Godwin Downs and Quentin Johnston because again Godwin different team. Is he still elite downs? We know the up and down, you know, performances with the quarterback and Johnston may get replaced. You know, they may bring in another receiver there if that happens. You know, kind of what we talked about with Lab McConkey like, like I don't think McConkey gets hurt as much as as Johnson does. Especially if they're going to bring in somebody, they're going to bring in an outside receiver, you know, to help Justin Herbert there. So I think the route that you've taken is more win now as opposed to build for the future because Godwin 29 Mahomes obviously can, you know, play for 10 more years, but Williams may not have a long, you know, lifespan. Obviously Mixon doesn't have a long career lifespan and you know, if the Chargers draft a guy, it's a draft and develop situation, then hopefully Quentin Johnson can still be good for, you know, one more season. It feels like you're more win now than opposed to for the as compared to planning for the future.

[Chief Cummings]

It is a team that Travis Kelsey would fit on and I think you're going to be more win now if you have if you like your running backs more than you do your wide receivers generally.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yep.

[Chief Cummings]

As a rule. So we are finishing up round nine in the draft room. We're going to go 14 rounds. When we get those done, I'm going to publish these results over to the website. I I opened up email this morning and I saw a couple emails of people sending screenshots of their five star reviews on Spotify and their questions. It's a good reminder that this Friday we will be doing a oneman mailbag. I will be answering as many of your questions as I can on air. May also actually if we have enough questions also write up a mailbag so some of you will get the written responses. I appreciate everybody's really support of the show. Everybody who was here in the chat. Thank you to everybody who participated in the draft. Thank you for being here, Jamie. Thank you Schaefer for running the draft board. We will talk to you guys on Friday.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

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