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Adam
Welcome to Fantasy football Today presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas and what's up everybody? We've got a lot to talk about today after a long day of podcasting and being on CBS Sports Network. Yesterday we had three shows. We had the draft a thon from five to eight. Thank you to everyone who hung out for that. It's available on YouTube if you want to catch up and watch it. YouTube.com fantasy football Today we had, I would say a borderline bombshell dropped in the last five to 10 minutes of the show. Heath and Dave, do you even know what I'm talking about?
Heath
That you that fruit salad is your favorite food at a barbecue.
Adam
What is that? But no, an extremely fantasy relevant bombshell dropped. Jamie, you know what I'm talking about.
Jamie
Yeah. Pete Prisco telling us what the role for Travis Hunter will be.
Adam
From what he is hearing, Travis Hunter is going to be primarily more more on defense than offense, gonna be a starting cornerback. And he said they're hoping for 55 to 60 catches from Travis Hunter this year. Ooh, that was pretty interesting. Look At Pete is plugged in with the Jaguars, plugged in with a lot of teams he knows he's talking about. Doesn't mean he's ne they're necessarily going to be right with those numbers. But that is what he heard and I take it pretty seriously. So Jamie, did you move, did you change your rankings last night?
Jamie
I moved him down a couple spots. He was already like wide receiver 33, so I moved him behind golden and I moved him behind Odunze. So, so he's still somebody that I would take late round six but with a little bit more trepidation, you know. So I still think that if he stands out offensively and based on what this team, I mean look, they just traded for Tim Patrick. Like this receiving core needs him to be, you know, I don't think dominant but needless to be somewhat special. It honestly what it should do, it should make you more excited about Brian Thomas Jr. He was already the, the sixth receiver for me. He was already the first round pick. I would take him ahead of Puka, I would take him ahead of Mara St. Brown, I would take him ahead of Drake London. Like there's the same target share potentially coming his way that we saw in those last six games, which is basically 10 per game.
Adam
Take him ahead of neighbors yet.
Jamie
I would not take him ahead of neighbors yet because I still think that the rest of the receivers, the receiving options for the Jaguars are still better than the rest of the receiving options for the Giants.
Adam
Okay.
Jamie
And I don't, I, I, I don't think Pete's estimation of the, his projection of the stats, I think that's a little low.
Adam
Yeah, it was what he was told. It wasn't his projection. It was what he was told. Well, he said it someone else's projection of.
Jamie
But no, what he said was they're hoping for.
Adam
Yeah.
Heath
And just, just for reference, Marvin Harrison Jr. In his rookie year caught 62 passes.
Adam
And yeah, and he was, I don't think he was a top 40 receiver. Right. So to put that that's maybe not per game.
Heath
Like overall he was, I don't remember how did Jameson Williams miss a game?
Adam
Yes, I think so.
Heath
He got 58. Jordan Addison caught 63.
Adam
Jameson Williams. Yeah, sorry. In 15 games. So he missed two games.
Heath
Okay.
Adam
Okay. All right. Some other takeaways from the draftathon the analysts that we had on. Not all of them, but many of them really love Teteroa McMillan and Ricky Pearsall. I think these were names that popped up a lot during the show. We're Gonna do teams that we players that we draft a lot today. That's one of our topics. And I just looked at my teams. I think I only have one Ricky Pierasol team and it was the first team I drafted. It was the Scott Fishbowl because the price has gotten so expensive for Ricky Pearsall. But ADP is not necessarily suggesting that. So I'm more optimistic that you all will be able to draft Ricky Piersol and Tedro McMillan actually, because the other topic today is ADP on Yahoo and ESPN. And also I kind of looked at the real time fan fantasy pros kind of updated adp. I still think we're getting very good values on Tedro McMillan and Ricky Piersol and Ameca Abuca not happening in the drafts that we're doing. But I'm optimistic for all of you that you'll be able to get these guys without having to take them in round five.
Heath
I think these, these guys that we all get really excited about the last month before the season and start racing to draft. And Keon Coleman probably fits into that too, to a lower degree. I told somebody that he went at the 6, 7 turn in one of our drafts. They're like, he's available after round 10 and every draft I'm in. What are you talking about? It's the exact opposite of the quarterback thing. Like I always talk about how you really shouldn't expect Jaden Daniels and Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson to all be available in round three of your draft like they always are in ours. And you really probably shouldn't expect Ricky Pearsall to go in round five and Keon Coleman to go in round seven. And technically, but they will in our drafts.
Adam
What round? Someone, Sean is asking in the chat, what round should Ricky Piersoll go in?
Jamie
6.
Heath
I think I have mentioned I would.
Dave
Take him in five late round five.
Adam
Yeah, hopefully you don't have to though, adp, it's tough. So what? Where was he? Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Heath
Dave, you say you would take him in round five, but if it's a normal person draft, not one of ours And Ted Arrow McMillan's there in round.
Dave
Five, I'm taking McMillan first.
Heath
Right, right, right.
Dave
So the way that I, I kind of configure my rankings is who do I like better and the players that I like more, I'm going to put ahead of the players that I don't like. Garrett Wilson and Ricky Pearsall are back to back for me. Ricky Piersol and Garrett Wilson are late round five picks for me. I'M I'm not getting Garrett Wilson in late round five in any typical home league draft that I'm in this week.
Heath
His ADP and CBS is round five.
Dave
Is it because I, I had a friend reach out and say, I just had somebody take Garrett Wilson in round three and they looked at your rankings in wtf and I had to like, explain why I don't like Garrett Wilson. Well, and it doesn't mean that I'm gonna, like I say I'm gonna take Tyler Warren in round eight in every league. That's a move that I'll do. But I'm always going to stay true to my rankings and I'm always going to take the player that I've ranked the highest. And so, yeah, if Garrett Wilson and Pierce hall are there together and it's round five and they're the best two receivers and there's no one else I like, then I'm picking between those two guys.
Jamie
I think the thing first off, because a lot of people are going to be drafting this weekend and haven't drafted yet. If you're looking at average draft position and there is a player that you want, screw average draft position and take the player that you want. Yeah. So if you want Garrett Wilson in round three because you think he's going to have a breakout season, then you go get Garrett Wilson. If you want Ricky Pierce all in round five because you think he's have a breakout season, then go get Ricky Pearsall. You don't want to leave your draft with, I want to get this guy. But this piece of data says he's going in round seven. Every draft is different. Dave just gave an example of Garrett Wilson going around three. The data says he's going in round five. We may not tell you to take him until round six. Like, there's different things that are happening in every draft, and there are so many drafts that are happening that average job position is going to change dramatically over the next three or four days. So don't look at ADP as anything more than a range. The, the thing we'll tell you all the time is tier your players, tier your rankings, and wherever the cutoff is for you, make sure you get one of those guys in those tiers. If that's in that tier, if that's something that you really want. But if there's a player you really want, I want Braylon Allen in all my drafts, his average draft position is like 120. I take him around 8 without fail.
Adam
Okay.
Jamie
Because I want to leave my draft with Braylon Allen. And I don't want to look back on and say, I missed on my guy. Dave's probably doing that with Keon Coleman in all his drafts. Heath is doing it with DeAndre Swift in all of his drafts. Like there's, there's players that you just have a feeling on that you think are gonna do something special. And again, the later the better, clearly, because you have the opportunity to take them a little bit ahead of ADP in some cases, maybe a lot, a lot ahead of adp. But don't leave your draft if you have a feeling on a certain player and say, I can't believe I missed that guy.
Dave
Because, you know, one of those players could be Travion Henderson too. And I'm just looking at his 24 hour ADP and it's late round four and that might be where I would take them, but I know that I'm the low guy on Travion Henderson and we all love Travion Henderson. That's an example of a guy that you would reach for because you just have a feeling on.
Jamie
So yeah, that's also an early round pick. I think the, the tougher thing is when do you buy into the mid to late round picks? Because as the draft is unfolding like you're seeing your board, you know, you're seeing your players, you're seeing the rank list that you're following, phrase it that way because most people don't have their own rank list, but you're seeing the, the draft list that you're following and you're saying, okay, this player that I want is 15 receivers away or, or 10 running backs away. Oh, I can wait. Maybe you can't.
Adam
Maybe you can't. You're right. And actually I thought doing the podcast league draft on Tuesday night or Monday night, 14 team league and I had the sixth pick, I think. And when you're in that spot in a 14 team league, you really can't, you can't really play the game of. Well, I'll just wait till next round to get him this. That actually makes you really puts your feet to the fire and makes you really evaluate who you want on your team and made me reach for Tyree Kill, who I decided I really want on this team. But whatever that. So yeah, like go ahead and if it feels like a reach, you know, just, who cares, Just, just do it. Hopefully not too early in the draft. ADP can help you figure out like how early you might have to reach. But also this Dave keeps talking about knife. Keep Talking about this 24 hour ADP, it's fantasy. That's what you're talking about. The fantasy pro is real time adp, Dave.
Jamie
Yes.
Adam
It's a good tool. So just Google that. Just Google fantasy pros. Real time ADP might help you. And I'll tell you in a second, I'll tell you some of the other like really good values that I found on other websites and just overall. But yeah, the draft a thon takeaways, the Travis Hunter note which we talked about, the, the names that came up a lot as buzzy guys, breakout guys were McMillan and Ricky Piersall. And I said to Dave, like, no, no wide receiver ever gets 120 targets on the 49ers. Well, Juwan Jennings was actually on pace for 128 last year. Debo Samuel had 121 in 16 games in 2021. It has happened. It's going to take some injuries. Probably there already are injuries. So, you know, it could happen. I don't think you're going to get 140 target season, but you don't need that on the 49ers for.
Heath
I had a lot of dispute on the segments I was on about Brock Bowers. We had some people that feel like I do about him and who think Trey McBride's the tight end one. And we had plenty of dispute about.
Adam
Christian McAfee and, and honestly, the McCaffrey dispute, hearing from a number of analysts that I respect, it does make me think that I need to chill with Christian McCaffrey. And if I'm on the clock in another draft and I have McCaffrey and Barkley available to me, I'm going to take Barkley. I already took McCaffrey once and I'm going to.
Heath
I think a lot of our listeners like us play in five to 10 leagues. I mean, I've got, I'm gonna have. We have. Some of us have 20 plus but play in five to 10 leagues. And I think that's a good point to make, especially with your first round pick. You don't want to draft Christian McCaffrey over Saquon Barkley five times exactly like that. It's just setting yourself up for an absolutely miserable season.
Jamie
My 20 shares of CD Lamb out of 30 leagues is bad.
Adam
It might be. But yeah, mix it. Don't be afraid.
Heath
I made that decision yesterday in the, in the St. Jude draft is I had Brock Bowers on literally half of my teams and I was like, you know what, I'm gonna go ahead and just take hn over him. This time.
Dave
But if you've had conviction.
Adam
No.
Dave
In Christian McCaffrey for, say, six months, I'd still do. And now, a week before the season, you go, oh, you know what? I think next time I'm up, I'm gonna take Saquon Barkley. I don't understand that.
Adam
Okay.
Dave
On a player, I. I understand what you guys are talking about, about diversifying the portfolio. You're playing a lot of fantasy leagues. That's fine. But when I like a player enough to put them, I don't know, third overall.
Adam
Yeah.
Heath
It's not about the player.
Dave
I would just. I would. I would lean into it. Because if you're right, you're going to have an awesome season.
Jamie
But I. I do think, though, to Heath's point, if you play in multiple leagues, it's easy to do that. Most people, though our audience might be different, but most people maybe play in two leagues, maybe at most three leagues, and so they could, you know, diversify in that situation. But a lot of times, though, to Dave's point, like, if you're sold on somebody and that's the main league, you know, like Heath, I. I'll put your feet to the fire here. The St. Jude League is something we do as a donation.
Heath
Right.
Jamie
You're not putting up any capital on your end.
Adam
Right.
Jamie
For this. If this was your most expensive league, which were the two players you're taking? Forget about whatever drafts you've done before.
Heath
I think it would depend on. When you say most expensive. Like, there's a lot of. I'll just use dollar amounts. It's fine. There's a lot of that are worth 50, and if this one's worth 500, then it's probably Brock Bowers. If it's a hundred, then I'm probably still doing the same thing. I'm gonna. You've inspired me to do a Twitter poll. And maybe it'd be better if it was a YouTube poll, because it would actually be people listening. But I am curious, like, what's the. How many leagues do most of the people who listen to us or follow us have?
Adam
Well, I inspired myself first, because about 15 seconds ago, I just put up a Twitter poll. How many fantasy football leagues do you play in? 1, 2, 3, or 4 or more. So we'll.
Heath
Oh, great.
Adam
We'll check in on that. Yeah. No, look, Dave, first of all, Christian McCaffrey, I. Is no longer third for me. Jameer Gibbs is. Christian McCaffrey would be probably fourth for me. And if I were in one draft, I would take McCaffrey over Barkley.
Jamie
But.
Adam
But it's not like I hate Barkley. It's not like I can't be successful with Barkley on my team. So McCaffrey's 29. It's the 29 thing still does bug me a little bit because before last year, 29 was a bad year for running backs. Last year changed everything with age. I get that. I still love McCaffrey. I still have conviction on him. But I also want to get these other great players on my fantasy teams and not be too overweight on Christian McCaffrey. Okay, so just a real quick stuff. Pete Prisco has some concerns about RJ Harvey and Basil Tutin in pass protection. And with Tutin, Priscoe said he thought Tutin would be the starter. He said, quote, at least in my mind, if he were better picking up the blitz. That's always an issue with rookie running backs. And Pete raved about Matthew Golden. We talked a lot about rookies yesterday with Pete and he raved about Matthew Golden. He said of all the rookies he saw, that was the one that really stood out at wide receiver.
Dave
So did Tom from the pack cast.
Adam
Yes.
Dave
Who saw golden practicing this summer and said that he just looked outstanding. So that's maybe you put a star next to his name in your drafts this weekend too.
Adam
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Heath
I didn't really like I know Chris Godwin's still not going to play in the early months, but I do think that when Chris Godwin is back and Mike Evans is there the Ameca Buko Being a difference maker for your fantasy team is a really difficult path. It now he has the upside that if Chris Godwin comes back and suffers a re injury or Chris Godwin's just not Chris Godwin anymore or Mike Evans falls off the age cliff, then it's great. But when you're talking strictly from a projection, I rank him higher than I project him strictly from a projection. If you think you're getting 12 games of Chris Godwin being Chris Godwin and Mike Evans being there and it's really hard for a buko to be someone that really beats where his ADP is now. And I, I think I like you said I had Pierce all outside the top 35, I might have him 36. He's definitely higher than a booker. For me he's in that range. I just it's still even though I think Brock Purdy might set a career high in pass attempts, it's still a run first offense. It's still. Even if there's. If Juwan Jennings, I don't think anybody thinks he's going to miss the year. And George Kittle and Christian McCaffrey are still going to take probably 40 of the targets. So I'm. I feel less confident in being lower on Piercel than a booker right now.
Adam
I think what we're hoping for and I. I would even put Xavier Worthy in this category now that Rice is out. What the people who are bullish on these guys are hoping for is that these. These players just nail their auditions. Right? That they have. Oh, right. I snapped my fingers and I knocked my camera out. All right, we'll fix that in a moment. You can hear me?
Dave
You never look better.
Heath
Yeah, we can hear you.
Adam
Okay.
Heath
This is the best, best screen we've ever had on you.
Adam
Jamie's on mute. I'm. I have no camera. Jamie's got no mic.
Jamie
So I said you're Thanos. What a great joke. That got ruined.
Adam
I sort of get that joke. Yeah. I think we're hoping that they nail their auditions and they just keep that momentum going. Is that what it is? And Jamie, would you put Worthy in that. In that boat too now? Like, we've got a huge opportunity for big starts this season for Abuka, Worthy and Piersol, and then they just run with it.
Jamie
I started to say that. Well, I guess I didn't realize I was on mute that Scott Fish brought this up yesterday, that he wanted to pair Ricky Piersol with Rashi Rice. It's. It's a great strategy, you know, if you want to sort of double up on two receivers that are going to be in that round five through seven range that Pearsall can get you off, you know, to whatever start he does without Ayuk there for short, is what it appears like. Right. Is he. Is he officially on pop.
Adam
And then four games, right?
Jamie
Four games, right. And then Abuka with his. Excuse me. With Godman with his situation, you know, probably not playing for the first month or at least not up to speed for the first month. So, yes, this is. That's a great Rice combination, you know, with either those guys and obviously Worthy, if you want to, you know, double up on both chiefs. But I think in the case of where you're drafting them, you're not only hoping that you nail that they nailed their audition. You are talking about guys coming off significant injuries that the chance for re injury is certainly possible there. So it's not only in the case of, you know, Heath is right, you know, Godwin, if he comes back as he's the same guy, then yes, the book is going to struggle for for targets if Evans and Godwin are doing what they do. That being said, Jalen McMillan, we don't know when he's going to be back at all, you know, dealing with this neck injury. So he should still remain on the field in all three receiver sets and potentially even two receiver sets if they just decide they want to really build up Godwin toward the end of the year. In the case of Piersol, I don't see him coming off the field at all, you know, so while they're going to be target share problems potentially and yes, they don't typically have a high volume of past attempts in the Kyle Shanahan era. I still think Piercel could be the leading target getter for this team. Not just while those guys are out, but even when those guys are back to healthy.
Adam
All right, let's take a break and a little bit more on the Chiefs when we come back, including some wide receivers that you might want to pair with Rasheed Rice or wide receivers that you might want to avoid if you draft Rashee Rice. We'll take a look at the YouTube polls and the YouTube and Twitter polls. We do have this poll on YouTube about how many leagues people are in and we'll be right back on fantasy football today.
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Dave
Worthy is still a number two fantasy wide receiver for me. Didn't really move him that much. I was high on him to begin with. Rashid Rice, I am drafting like a number three wide receiver. I'm really targeting that round five to six range. Hopefully when I take him I will already have two wide receivers on my team and I will take one, if not two wide receivers in the three to four rounds after I take Rasheed Rice.
Jamie
Jamie, I will take Rice in round six. I would take Worthy late round four again. You know Worthy could run away with this audition and be fantastic and then we get both these receivers playing at a high level. So I think you got to build in a little bit of risk with Rice just because again missing so much time and and what his role will be coming back. The nice part about the suspension early in the year is you should be able to manage your roster at a at a good enough level that by the time we get to the bye weeks that you're know what you're dealing with here and hopefully your team is in great shape and then you're getting this added piece back that could be a significant difference maker in a league winner.
Heath
Yeah, I've got worthy at wide receiver 19 pick 46. I've got Rice at wide receiver 28 pick 59 so I think we're all in relatively similar range. The thing I would say with Rice is he is probably one of the more format dependent players. Obviously he's more valuable in full ppr than he is in half or non because all of his catches are so close to the line of scrimmage. But also if you have a shallower league 10 team league 2 wide receiver league, he's more valuable because it's easier to replace him. If you're in a deeper starting lineup league, then you have to be a little bit more concerned because you have to start worse players while he's out. And then the bench depth is the opposite. Shorter benches, it's harder to hold a guy for six games that you can't put on IR deeper benches. It's easier to hold a guy. So if you had a two wide receiver league with deeper benches that might be his best format.
Dave
So Heath in we we did a draft yesterday. It was the draft thon league and you took Rice at the end of round five. I just kind of want to like if you could recall what was going through your mind when you did that and what your intentions might have been.
Heath
I I was I think if you look on Twitter, especially Jacob Gibbs or the fantasy points guys, there's a lot of people making arguments for Rice at the four or five turn or definite or in Round four. And I, when that happened, I thought, you know, this might be the one chance that I have to take him at the 5, 6 turn. I'd like to have Rashi Rice on one of my teams. And it was a, it was an interesting build because the prior turn I had gone tight end quarterback. I got Jaden Daniels and George Kittle.
Dave
So Rice literally the second wide receiver you took?
Heath
Yep.
Adam
And how many wide receivers you start in this league? 3. 3. So who are your receivers?
Heath
I when pulling my team up now, my receivers are bad. So I have Nico Collins, I have Jacoby Myers, which I am perfectly fine within that 2, 3 range in full PBR. And I don't believe he's actually going to get traded. I have Rashi Rice, I have Juwan Jennings, I have Wandale Robinson, who I will probably, probably start week one.
Dave
All right.
Heath
And I have Luther Burton.
Adam
All right, so listen, I think you guys might be a little high on Rishi Rice. Just. I wouldn't say that. I think that you may not have to draft him as early as. Because right now I'm looking at the real time ADP and he's going 77th. So that's round seven. And I'm looking at NFC ADP where wide receivers get pushed up and he's going 70th, but he's wide receiver 36. And in the real time ADP and I'm sorry, the NFC ADP is from yesterday and today the real time ADP has him as wide receiver 34. So I don't think anyone has. Should be drafting or I shouldn't say should, but has to be drafting him as a, as a top 30 wide receiver. All right, we got to move on. I'm sorry.
Jamie
I would say two receiver league is going to change some things. Three receiver leagues, you might get them a little, you might have to take them a little bit sooner. Two receiver leagues, he might fall a little bit. And it's just really, I think a matter of, you know, do you think you can get a pier salt Abuka, you know, like Heath is high on Divo Samuel, you know, you think you get those guys a little bit later, then you maybe pull the trigger a little sooner on, on Rice just because you know you're going to back him up. Somebody that has a chance to start off the season playing really well.
Adam
All right, if I have time later in the show, I'm going to go through some players who have good and bad matchups for the first six weeks, which is very subjective and I don't feel super confident in it, but. So that's why I'll save it to the end. But there's one guy I do want to highlight, and it's Calvin Ridley. If you're not starting Rashi Rice for the first six weeks, you're probably not starting Calvin Ridley in Week one. He's got the worst matchup. He's at Denver. He faces the Rams, the Colts, who did add add two members to their secondary, including Charvarius Ward. Then he faces Houston. So in the first four games, he could be shadowed by Patrick Certain. I don't think Derek Stingley is a shadower. I think he stays on one side, but it's possible that he'll follow Calvin Ridley. It's not a great start for Calvin Ridley. Plus, you have a rookie quarterback making his first, you know, six starts. So that's just one guy. I wanted to highlight that. Maybe you don't want to pair with Rasheed Rice, but we'll try to talk about that a little bit later. Heath, you've been super high on Kyron Williams. We get a report today or last night that Rams offensive coordinator Mike Laflore says he wants to give Blake Cora more touches. He wants to keep everyone fresh. Basically. Your thoughts?
Heath
I have Kyron projected for basically two fewer touches per game than he's had the last two years, and that has him at RB8. So I think it really depends. Like, Blake Corum more touches than he had last year is an exceptionally low bar. And so how many more touches is it? Are we talking about he's taking five touches away from Kyron Williams? I think that would probably be the max in my mind. And so it really just depends on two things. One, what's the number? Is it two or three touches more for Quorum per game? Is it five or six? And then the other is, does the fact that Kyron Williams is off the field for maybe 10% of the snaps that he wasn't last year cause his efficiency to go back to where it was two years ago, which was much, much better than it was last year?
Dave
There's a third factor. What? Where on the field is Blake Corum getting these touches? Are they really going to put Blake Corum in. In short yardage, goal line or even in the red zone? No, not when they've got Kyron Williams. Unless Kyron Williams starts fumbling again, and then that could be a problem, but I don't think that's going to happen. So I'm. This doesn't worry me at all. I'm not moving Kyron down.
Adam
But is Blake Coram the obvious handcuff now? If. If it wasn't obvious already, yes. Okay.
Jamie
I don't know.
Dave
I kind of like Jamie's theory.
Jamie
Well, handcuffing and tandem are two different things. It's going to be Blake Corum, if they want to maybe get some juice on the field, then it's probably Jarquez Hunter to add some. Add a speed element or maybe a change of pace type of guy. So. But maybe that does not mean also that Hunter will play overcorm in some situations based on what Leflore is saying. Like, we could still see Corum being that second guy. I just think that Hunter's kind of locked into his role and Quorum could play multiple roles.
Adam
Kate Otten could miss week one with a leg injury. They're at Atlanta. Even more targets for Abuka maybe. And Mike Evans. Naji Harris did practice in pads. Should Omarion Hampson be a third round pick? If. If Naji Harris is ready for week one.
Jamie
Yes.
Heath
I'm still in round four.
Adam
Okay. The Dolphins signed Jeff Wilson to their practice squad. They do need some running back depth. Marvin Mims has a groin injury, hopefully nothing serious. The San Francisco 49ers say they will not trade Juwan Jennings and he has not been ruled out for week one. At Seattle, the Chief signed Clyde Edwards Elair to the practice squad.
Jamie
Welcome back.
Heath
Welcome. Welcome back, Clyde.
Adam
And Jaden Reed has a fairly serious foot injury. It's pretty painful, I guess, but he plans on playing through it. He's beaten.
Heath
Yeah, I do not like that.
Adam
Me either.
Dave
No.
Jamie
Well, you saw what it was, right?
Adam
It's a Jones fracture and he's just.
Heath
Gonna play through it.
Jamie
He. Well, he says he's not listening to the timeline. I believe was the quote. He's gonna beat the timeline. And the timeline for a Jones fracture could be a month plus. So it's very difficult to, I think, count on Jaden Reed early in the season. Now, again, who knows how he's healing and at what point he suffered the injury. The fact he's out of a walking boot is. Is obviously a good sign, but this just feels like it could be a disaster.
Adam
Okay, let's take a look at the YouTube poll and Twitter poll. How many leagues are you in? 1, 2, 3 or 4 or more on YouTube, not surprisingly, 4 or more has 42% of the vote. 3 and 2 and 1 are pretty close. Between 17 and 22% of the vote. But 4 or more, 42% of our audience. How about 62% of our audience are in at least three fantasy leagues on YouTube and it's almost identical on Twitter. With 405 votes in 68% of our league. I'm sorry, 66% of our leagues, of our listeners right now who have responded to this poll are in at least three fantasy leagues. 40 are in four or more.
Jamie
If you did not have this job, all of you, how many leagues would you play?
Adam
5Ish.
Heath
8, I think. I think 4 Redraft and 4 Dynasty sounds like a good number.
Dave
I'd say 3 or 4.
Jamie
I'd probably be 10. Yeah.
Adam
It'S a great question. We got Mailbag coming up. I haven't decided when we're going to record it. I don't tonight.
Jamie
Let's go.
Adam
I don't really want to do it tonight, but I don't. But I also would like to free up Friday afternoon a little bit. So maybe we'll do it tomorrow.
Jamie
We got to do tonight.
Adam
Okay. All right. We could probably do it tonight. So let's talk about players we keep drafting. I asked you guys yesterday, you know, briefly in the fill in the blank, who do you keep drafting? But now we'll get some more names. Heath, you have this always very nicely laid out in a spreadsheet and all that. Who's on who, which players are on a lot of your teams.
Heath
And that spreadsheet does cause me to do things like not draft Brock Bowers yesterday.
Adam
Right.
Heath
So there's. I'll give you kind of a top two or three at each position. There's two quarterbacks I have on more teams than any other. Dak Prescott and Justin Fields. And Jalen Hurts is third. Gonna try to get Jaden Daniels up there in this last week of drafting two running backs, ken Walker and DeAndre Swift. And Devon Hn's right behind them. Also Will Shipley, because for as much concern as we have about Saquon Barkley, Shipley is always the last handcuff to be taken, it seems. So I've got Tim in the final round of a lot of drafts at wide receiver. No surprise that it's Cooper cup and Luther Burden. But Nico Collins is the best good wide receiver. Oh, Jerry. Judy. I'm sorry, Jerry.
Jamie
Judy.
Heath
Cooper Cup, Luther Burden, Nico Collins. And then at tight end, it's just Brock Bowers.
Adam
Okay, Jamie.
Jamie
Oh, start with Dave. That's too many leagues, Dave.
Dave
I do not have a spreadsheet on hand like Heath does, but I do know who I have on a lot of my teams. The quarterback that I end up gravitating toward because it's such a value pick and I draft with you, Nudnik. So of course he's available is Jared Goff. And I know he especially is worried about some serious scoring regression across the board for the Lions. But I'm encouraged by what I've heard out of training camp this year or this summer. Really, it has been the year because the off season there's been a lot of talk about Jameson Williams and Jameer Gibbs. Anyway, I. I think this Lions offense is still going to put up a lot of points. Will it be as many as last year? No. But getting Jared Goff, I. I think I got him. Was it our pick by pick or was it the draft we did yesterday where I got him with my last pick? He might not have even been drafted yesterday and I took a guy to stash on IR and now I'll go pick up golf. Anyway. Anyway, when I see Jared Goff after like round nine, I start to get a little excited. And I don't necessarily like getting excited by Jared Goff, but here I am and I think he can be pretty good in 2025. I've drafted a lot of Devon HN, especially after the injury because he's available in round two. So I'm buying that dip. I'm the only one on the show that really loves Alvin Kamara. I'm okay taking him in round three in full ppr. So I have him on a number of my teams. I'm good with that. I've been drafting a lot of Jaguars running backs. Earlier in the off season it was Tank Bigsby. More recently it's been Travis Etienne and Basil Tuton. I am trying to get Toon in all of my drafts. I just don't want to reach for him. I don't want to get him in the round eight range. If it's round nine, I could, I could handle that. You can find him in round 10 or later.
Adam
Take him in round nine. I mean. Yeah, I mean, I feel like Tutin is available pretty late, you know. Sure.
Dave
I'm seeing him with other sharks. I know that they're going to be looking at.
Jamie
That's what I say. I, I. Correct me if I'm wrong, Dave, but most of your drafts so far have been analyst leagues. Right? Right.
Dave
So, yeah, he's like 150 period. Or analyst leagues. I only have a couple of leagues.
Adam
You people out there, please do not. I do not think you should take Basil Tootin in round nine. I mean, maybe I'll make an idiot, but I think you can get him in round 12.
Dave
You might be able to get him. Well, sure. That's what the ADP suggests. So if you can, you want to take that risk, go ahead. But that's a player that I don' trying to just corral in as many leagues as I can. If it's round nine, so be it. Round ten would be better. Yes, of course. If you can get them later, you should get it later. That goes for literally every human, but.
Adam
I think you can get them. I mean, I'm not saying that you should. I know that you can.
Dave
Yes, you can. You might. Unless you're drafting with me. Then you won't. You have no shot. Okay, wide receiver. Sticking with the Lions theme, Jameson Williams picking him him up a lot. Adam, you can say the exact same thing you just said. I'm comfortable taking Jameson as soon as late round four. It's crazy high, but his ADP is going to be lower than that. I don't think it's as low as like, you know, the difference between where I'm taking Tootin and what Tutin's ADP is. But it's still somebody that I'm targeting in a lot of my drafts. Ricky Pearsall has been a, a rocket ship that I've been riding since the middle of the off season. Matthew golden and Keon Coleman are two wide receivers that I'm certainly targeting in the middle rounds. You don't have to do that with Keon Coleman. You can wait until round 10 for Keon Coleman. And Demaro Douglas has started to enter the late round fray for me as well just because he's kind of a safeish full PPR guy. And have you heard me talk about Tyler Warren at all?
Adam
I said to Heath on FFT so many leagues because I took Tyler Warren third, third round in a startup rookie dynasty tight end premium league. And he's like this Dave, Dave Richard like influencing you. And I said, you know, Dave Richard crushed it with Brock Bowers last year and once upon a time with Darren Waller, he's this, he's the late round tight end whisperer. I feel like there was another one maybe in there. So that did kind of the fact that you were so on Brock Bowers and now you're so on Tyler Warren. It does.
Dave
And I don't even love Warren as much as I love Bowers and I like Warren.
Heath
It was a tight end premium league and Warren could be a great pick. As we went through that draft on FFT dynasty, the fact that Sam Laporta and Colston Loveland went two rounds later.
Adam
Yeah, it was weird.
Heath
Made it feel a little bit alarming.
Dave
Yeah, sure. But is it. But it's a dynasty league, right?
Adam
Right. Yeah.
Dave
Yeah. So I kind of get it. If I don't get Tyler Warren, Tucker Kraft, who. We've been talking about this since January. I still feel like he could be the number two target getter in Green Bay. And Heath, I know you love the efficiency that Kraft gave last year. So if he gets a target bump, he's going to be awesome.
Adam
Right. And you think about Christian Watson's out for a little while and Jaden Reed's got a Jones fracture, and it could happen. All right, so for Heath, it was Dak Fields and Hertz. More so Dak and Fields. He's going to try to draft some. Some Jane Daniels, Ken Walker, Deandre Swift, Devon Achan and Will Shipley. Cooper Cup, Luther Burden, Nico Collins, Jerry Judy, Brock Bowers. For Dave, it was Golf A Chan and Camara. The Jaguars running back, specifically Tootin Jameson Williams, you're saying you take him around for late round four. And the thing is, I get that because he. You're. You're almost certainly not going to get him in late round six. Now, his adp, Jameson Williams is close to the five, six turn. So if you have a late round four, early round five pick and you feel like you're reaching for Jameson, you're really not, because you're not. If that's your guy, you're not getting him. If you wait. Matthew Golden, Ricky Pearsall, Keon Coleman, Demario Douglas, Tyler Warren and Tucker Kraft. Jamie, you ready?
Jamie
Yep.
Adam
Okay.
Jamie
Quarterbacks would be Justin Fields and Drake May take a lot of those two guys. Jordan Love as well. Running backs, I take a lot of Christian McCaffrey. So I'm with you, Adam. Like, if he's there in the top five, I typically draft him. A lot. The rookies, a lot of Trevion Henderson, a lot of RJ Harvey. Starting to get a lot of Omarion Hampton, which I'm happy about. So definitely looking at those three guys. I draft a lot of Jalen Warren, a lot of Zach Charbonnet, a lot of Jordan Mason and a lot of Braylon Allen. Allen's probably my most rostered player at that position just because I reach for him sooner than I need to. But I want to make sure I get him on most of my fantasy teams. Starting to get a lot of Dylan Sampson, too. I want to see what's going to happen there with this Browns, especially as we're Getting closer to week one and no Quinton Judkins. A lot of CD Lamb. Just because if he gets anywhere for me from three on, I. I will take him. Probably too much exposure, but I like that a lot. And I'll ask you guys to think of this. Just because I did it in the draft yesterday with CD Lamb and George Pickens. Scott Lamb in round one and Pickens mistakenly in round five, and then on purpose in round six, if you like, pairing those two receivers together in that offense. But a lot of CD Lamb. I take a lot. I draft a lot of Cortland Son. A lot of Cordon Sun. Yeah. DK Metcalf. I'm trying to think. These are a lot of a Mecca Buka lately. Very much in on a Mecca Buka. A lot of Matthew golden and then later, a lot of still Darnell Mooney just because he's cheap. A lot of Demaro Douglas. He's on a lot of my teams. Tight end, a lot of David Najoku and a lot of Tucker Craft.
Dave
Okay. I have a question, if I can butt in. Adam.
Adam
Yeah. Can I read the list again real quick?
Dave
Yeah, sure. Especially the running backs, because that's where I'm going.
Adam
All right. Jamie says Fields and Drake may running backs, McCaffrey early and then mid round guys. We're looking at Travion or early to mid round. Travion Henderson, RJ Harvey, Omarion Hampton and then Jalen Warren, Zach Charbonnet, Braylon Allen, Jordan Mason, that group there, and Dylan Sampson. I may have missed one. Sorry. CD Lamb, Courtland Sutton, DK Metcalf. A Mecca Buka, Matthew Golden, Darnell Mooney, Demario Douglas, David Najoku and Tucker Craft. That's Jamie's list. What's your question?
Dave
So it's about that group of mid to late running backs that Mason, Charbonnet, Jalen Warren, Dylan Sampson. You can kind of throw in there, although you can get them a little bit later, I think. How often have you taken multiples of those running backs in a hero RB build? Meaning maybe McCaffrey is your first pick. You load up on receivers and other positions and then starting in round seven or eight, wherever you're getting those guys, you start picking off those running backs. How often have you done that and how comfortable are you doing that, knowing that one of those four, let's say four running backs will end up starting for you each week.
Adam
There was also Braylon Allen, so, yeah.
Dave
Throw Braylon Allen in there too, for sure.
Jamie
I've done that in like three or four drafts. Recently, one was our IDP draft where I started with Justin Jefferson and Puka Nakua, ended up with Lamar Jeffrey. I think I might, I don't know, I took in round three, Jefferson, Nakua. I took Lamar Jackson in round four, and I believe I took RJ Harvey in round five. And so that was my first running back. My second running back that I drafted was, I think it might have been Charbonnet and then Eckler.
Dave
Okay.
Jamie
And Ford. So like that's the group that I'm pulling from until somebody becomes a starter. I mentioned this other draft the other day where it was Jalen Warren was, you know, I went four, four rounds without a running back. Deandre Swift, my first running back, around five. And then Jalen Warren is the running back that I'm starting in week one. So there's the IDP draft and obviously you're comfortable. I took George Kill. I'm sorry. So it was, it was Jefferson, round one, Nakua, round two, killer, round three, Lamar Jackson, round four, RJ Harvey, round five. And then right now it would be Jerome Ford as the number two running back. So I think I have Braylon Allen or Charbonne, one of the two on this team.
Adam
If you scroll down, you have Allen, Eckler, Tootin, Ramandre, Stevenson.
Jamie
Yep.
Adam
You have some.
Dave
So you have a whole smorgasbord of mediocre running backs.
Jamie
Yep. So it'll probably be, it'll probably be Ford or Eckler or Stevenson in week one and then just kind of wait out to see what happens with Alan and Tootin, you know, trade or waiver wire option. So it's, it's, you know, again, when you get into those middle to late rounds, the only thing you should be looking for is upside. You could, you could obviously have a different build and you know, you're, you're hoping for a player that's going to have a floor of, you know, a solid production. I'll give an example. Romeo Dobbs versus Cedric Tillman. The floor is dramatically safer for Romeo Dobbs. The ceiling, in my opinion, is dramatically higher for Cedric Tillman. So which of the two players do you think is going to most benefit your team? Now, you can argue each side of it. You know, quarterback, favor of Dobbs, injury situation. Right now, in favor of Dobbs, all those things. But what's his most likely outcome? Wide receiver, 40 maybe. Yeah, like Cedric Tillman may not be much higher, but this, the small sample size we have was pretty amazing, you know, so with this quarterback situation being what it is, his role in the offense. Like, he could be. He could be awesome, you know. So again, it's. It's Florida. Somebody just. Just posted in the chat and I'm sure Dave would agree the floor for Khalil Shakir is much safer than Keon Coleman. Much safer. The ceiling is much higher for Keon Coleman.
Adam
Yeah.
Jamie
So when you start to get in those middle rounds of players, again, your build will determine this. But just in a vacuum, I think you're just. You should be shooting for upside as much as you possibly can.
Adam
Okay.
Dave
And do you recommend the. The hero rb, Bill? Is that like. I don't. That's not my favorite way to go about building a team, but I don't hate it. And I especially like picking off those running backs. Not just those guys, but also like in. In that range where you're drafting Tillman and Dobbs. Man. I'm looking for running backs there too. I'm just looking for anybody that has, you know, a scintilla.
Jamie
I'll just give you an example. I. I would say it's. It's more of a modified hero rb because I said this. I don't remember which. Which show. We've done so many. I want to leave round five with two running backs. So it does not mean take one early and wait till round five. I would be fine with two in round five if you tell me I have, you know, two stud receivers, tight end, quarterback, and then we get to around 5 and 6 or 4 and 5. Excuse me. However that build gets there. You get to round four and five and you tell me that I'm getting RJ Harvey in round four and DeAndre Swift in round five. I am thrilled with that. Absolutely thrilled with it. Is it the most ideal situation? No. But if. If you tell me I nailed my first three picks with start with that IDP league. If it goes Jefferson, Puka, Kittle, Harvey and Swift. Love that. Absolutely love that.
Dave
And I would just like to add, like, you never go into a draft with one specific strategy that you must follow, but.
Jamie
Correct.
Dave
It's not wrong to keep in mind that if you start with one running back and you might have the intention of getting two with your first five picks, but someone falls and. And you can't help yourself. You can't resist a good value on draft day and you shouldn't going with that hero RB build. Especially with the running backs that you talked about. Jamie. And there might be a couple of other ones that I like to the Jacksonville guys, for example. I think that's a. Okay. And you can have that RB2 spot as a weakish spot in your starting lineup and not feel bad about it.
Jamie
But, but to, to your point, just to give you another example, like I would rather take a chance on Zach Charbonnet than one of the Jaguars running back. I know you're probably different but like I, I would rather not deal with that mess. Well, I shouldn't say it like Tootin later is a different story but like the ETN Bigsby range of where you have to take those guys. I would rather take Charbonne and personally I'd rather take Braylon Allen.
Adam
There's a guy that is not is like in his own category and it's Javante Williams and he fits in that range of draft but he also is going to be the starter in week one and is going to have an opportunity his competition. I mean it seems like I have not read a single good thing about Miles Sanders. So we're really just looking at Jaden Blue as this rookie. He's got really good speed by the way. Jaden Blue I may have run he ran one of the fastest 40s among running backs so that's exciting. But he hasn't been on the field that much. He's back now, so got hurt in their last.
Jamie
No, he's not back. He's hurt.
Adam
Oh, he got hurt again. That's right.
Dave
So I heard. Again, I don't know if it's going to cost him week one, but he's. He's not at 100.
Adam
But Javante is interesting. It might depend on your roster build and, and how badly you need to start someone in week one, you know, because you probably. I'm assuming you're going to rank Javante ahead of Charbonnet in week one doesn't mean.
Jamie
Yes. Oh, you're right. You're.
Adam
How does he.
Jamie
You're dead on with this. I feel like Javante is like a poor man's DeAndre Swift at this point just because the competition for touches in the early part of the season is non existent.
Heath
I I'm probably starting in week one in our podcast league 1414 team podcast league. I took Jalen Hurts and Brock Bowers and so I'm weak RB2 and just.
Jamie
To go back to Dave's point about like when you go into your draft and again this is a lot different for what you could update the poll like if you have multiple leagues versus one league because your focus is a lot different on that draft but if you have the opportunity to just play the board, you're going to either love the way it works out for you or you're gonna hit. I, you know, I, I try to be as transparent as I can, and I post a lot of my drafts on, on Twitter and the two that I did this week, one was our, was our podcast league. I don't remember two different builds. One was very running back heavy, one was very receiver heavy and killed on both of them. I hate your running backs. I hate your receivers. Your team sucks. You know, it, it just. Again, I don't care. You, you have your opinion on what I did. Fine. Cool. You have to, you have to be flexible. You have to be flexible. You know, it's, it's, it's different in an auction because you can control what happens In a Snake draft, you're at the mercy of what is going to be available to you. We talk about this all the time, what happens at the turns, what happens in the middle. You know, you have the ability to sort of dictate some of those things depending on where you're picking. So, you know, I think you have to be, be flexible. You referenced the FFT Open league. I never in a million years would have told you in June that a league that I'm playing out, I'm going to start running back, running back, running back, two receiver. My first three picks were Jameer Gibbs, Bucky Irving, Jonathan Taylor. I was not passing up the value of those three guys.
Adam
It's beautiful. All right, if you. Since nobody asked, here are the players that I've been drafting a lot. I haven't really had that many redraft leagues yet.
Heath
Christian McCaffrey, Tyree Kill.
Adam
Yeah, No, I don't have enough of those guys. I don't, I don't. You know, it just hasn't worked out. I do have Pacheco. Pacheco? Yeah. I mean, I have some Genti Hampton, Pacheco, James Cook. Caleb Johnson is someone that I've been drafting a lot of thinking about this, like, he might, he might be too slow. He might just be slow and it's not good. But why can't he just be Naji Harris? And with where he's going, if you got the production of Najee Harris, you know, in the, like the eighth round or whatever we're getting Caleb Johnson at, I think that's a fine pick and I'm hoping that he's a lot better than Naji Harris. So he's definitely not gonna be their third down back, but if he can play first and second down, Aaron Rodgers throws to his running backs. Caleb Johnson can catch some passes and if he can be their goal line guy and be their primary rusher, then I. There are a lot of ifs, but there are the same amount of ifs. Like, if you're going to keep drafting Jalen Warren, there are as many ifs for Jalen Warren as there are for Caleb Johnson.
Jamie
No.
Adam
Yes.
Heath
No, they're the opposite ifs. But Jalen Warren is the starter. Jalen Warren is definitely the past catching.
Adam
No, I don't agree with that.
Dave
I'm. I'm not 100.
Adam
Probably. I. Probably. But Gainwell was used as the third down back in their last preseason game. Gainwell has had higher pass block pass blocking grades on PFF in each of the last three seasons. I think you're right, Heath, but I don't know it for sure. Okay.
Heath
Jalen Warren is going to lead the team in targets at running.
Dave
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Adam
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Heath
That's what I, that's what I meant to say. Like it. So I, I think that the big problem for me with Caleb Johnson being Naji is not doing what he did as a rusher. It's that part of the problem with Jalen Warren the last two or three years is that even though he was the quote, unquote, pass catching back, Jaylen Warren still had 41, 36, 29 catches in a year. I think it's hard to project Kaylin, Caleb Johnson to do that with the way he's struggling in the passing game right now.
Adam
I'll just say this. I think they drafted Caleb Johnson so he could become their primary running back. His preseason wasn't great. I am trying not to overreact to his preseason. I'm obviously concerned because he, he isn't fast and he looked slow. But I'm, you know, he was a good running back at Iowa. I think they're going to give him the opportunity. If he can take it, then I think he can. He can pay off.
Jamie
And you would draft him ahead of Jalen Warren, Correct?
Adam
I would. In all formats. I think. I just don't know.
Jamie
Good news for you, by the way, with one of the guys you like.
Adam
Oh.
Jamie
Who just got news that Mike McDaniel said Tyree Kill will be ready for week one.
Adam
Of course he will be. Jerry Judy is on too many of my teams. It's getting, getting very nervous. But a lot of Jerry because like if they go to Gabriel or Sanders, I think it's going to be bad for Judy. And also I just, I know that Joe Flacco has been really really good and really productive. He's still Joe Flacco. And I, I don't know. I don't. I don't want to be. Have too many Browns. I might, I think if they run.
Jamie
The Dylan Gabriel offense that we saw in the preseason game, like there's gonna be a lot of catches for Jerry.
Adam
Judy and probably for the other team too.
Heath
And it's not like you're spending even a fifth round pick on Jerry Judy. You're drafting him in round six or round seven over every.
Adam
True. It's true. You know what? Look, I'm just gonna embrace it and I'm all like, let's go, Heath, Jerry Judy, you've been talking about.
Jamie
Here you go. Here's a trivia question for you. How many receivers last year had 90 plus catches?
Adam
Six. 12. That's a lot. No, eight.
Dave
I kind of like six is the answer.
Jamie
I'm gonna just stuck with 12. 11.
Adam
He was one of them.
Jamie
Judy was the 11th at 90. All right.
Adam
What'D you say?
Jamie
Who had the fewest receiving yards of those 11?
Dave
Is it Judy?
Jamie
No, it was very drastic. Who?
Heath
It was Wanda Robinson.
Adam
Oh, my gosh. He had like three. He had like 90 something catches for three yards.
Jamie
He has for 6.99.
Adam
All right. Christian Kirk's not a lot of my teams and surprisingly TJ Hawkinson is on two of my teams, which counts as a lot right now. I wanted to mention one thing real quick. In Super Flex, I took Cam ward as my QB2. In Super Flex, I think if you want to pair him with someone, I think Joe Flacco, who nobody wants in Super Flex for obvious reasons, is not bad to pair Cam Ward with. Because Cam Ward has Denver in week one, he could get off like, we're not starting him there. Joe Flacco starts with Cincinnati and then he's at Baltimore. Baltimore's got a super talented secondary, but you have to throw against them a lot. So I think they're a good pairing. I know that's kind of a weird, random thing, but just wanted to bring it up. We never talk about that. All right, drafting on ESPN and Yahoo. Did I take the second break? I did, right?
Dave
I don't remember one.
Adam
I don't remember one either. I don't think I did. All right, I'm sorry. Let's take our second break real quick and come back. I'll give you the ESPN and Yahoo values that you need to know about after this. As a scientist, I can tell you.
Dave
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Heath
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Dave
Yes in ppr? Yes.
Adam
What about in half ppr?
Dave
Probably still yes. But in non PPR it's easy to.
Adam
Go with Taylor on ESPN. Justin Herbert is QB11 which surprised me. And ESPN and Yahoo I am assuming are defaulting to four point per passing touchdown. These doesn't mean every league is, but that's probably more normal than not for them. Who's going lower than normal? Like later than normal? Sorry. Mid round wide receivers I would say are going later than on CBS and they are later on ESPN than they are on CBS. But Justin Fields on ESPN is QB14. Chase Brown is going 26th overall. Kyron Williams is going 31st overall. Omarion Hampton 41st overall. Travion Henderson 50th overall. So good running back value. Tony Pollard RB25, he's going 78th overall and RJ Harvey is RB26, he's going 82nd overall so I think the running back value on ESPN is very good. Chase Brown, Kyron Williams, Hampton, Henderson, Pollard and Harvey. In particular, wide receivers Drake London, 22nd overall. I mean, in recent drafts, don't be surprised to see London going in the top 15. Mike Evans is wide receiver 17, but he's six spots after wide receiver 16. So JSN's wide receiver 16 at 39. Evans is 45th, Cortland Sutton 63rd, George Pickens 73rd. Again, it's not so much that, like Pickens, Jameson Williams, it's not so much that they're going earlier at the position and Tedro McMillan too, than they are on CBS. I'm sorry, later at the position. They're going later in drafts. So wide receiver 28. I received 30. Why? Receiver 33. That's Pickens, Jamo and McMillan. That's pretty much what they are in ADP on CBS. But it's just later in the draft, A Mecca, Abuka and Ricky Pierso. I've talked enough about them. Anyahoo. Nico Collins is ninth. And Nico Collins is a guy that, you know. Where's he on CBS these days? Still like 13ish, I think ESPN overall, ninth receiver, ninth overall.
Jamie
Sorry, he's I believe, there for me.
Adam
Yeah, but ADP on CBS.
Dave
0.1 on CBS.
Adam
Yeah, on. On Yahoo. On Yahoo. He's going ninth. Nico Collins on ESPN. I think he's going 12th. 16th on CBS. So Yahoo's got him ninth. We like him quite a bit.
Heath
I have a ninth.
Adam
Yeah. Ninth overall, not at receiver.
Jamie
Yep.
Adam
George Kittle's 31st. That's a little earlier than normal. Sam Laporta, Mark Andrews, their 50th and 63rd. I think there's, There's a theme that we are not drafting tight ends in rounds five and six, basically, and a lot of people are. Caleb Johnson on yahoo is going 18 picks ahead of Jalen Warren. I do like Caleb Johnson better than Jalen Warren. I don't like him 18 picks better than Jalen Warren, who on Yahoo. Is going later than normal. Brock Bowers is 22nd. A little bit later, Chase Brown is 24th. So on. On ESPN and Yahoo. You, if you have the first pick, second pick, you might be getting Chase Brown in rounds two or three. Would you pair him with Jamar Chase or would you hesitate on that?
Heath
No hesitation.
Jamie
No hesitation to get a question yesterday about T. Higgins and Jamar Chase. And I would not do that.
Adam
I did get an email from someone who took. Who took Chase Brown, sorry. Jamar Chase, Chase Brown, T. Higgins and Joe Burrow with four picks in a 10 team league. So that's pretty cool. I. I like you have.
Heath
That's kind of to me like taking Christian McCaffrey with a top five pick. Like it's possible that taking those four Bengals with your first four picks just wins you the league and it's possible that Joe Burrow gets hurt and it runs your.
Adam
Yeah, yeah.
Jamie
But it's different with four players compared to one.
Adam
It's so. It's so fun. I really am going to try to do it in the auction that I'm in. What else? Sorry, Yahoo.
Heath
Good information to have.
Adam
Yeah, I know some people in the auction are listening to this right now. Coralyn Sutton is wide receiver 25 is going 62nd. Travion Henderson is going pretty late in Yahoo. He's back to back with Pacheco. He's ahead of DeAndre Swift. DeAndre Swift is going 70th, but yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Heath
I think ESPN's full on Yahoo's half.
Jamie
Okay.
Adam
I think I thought I toggled to full, but I could be wrong. No, I think you're right. Heath half. Okay. Trayvon Henderson 63rd, Pacheco 64th, Swift 70th. Teroa McMillan is wide receiver 30. But Tetero McMillan's going after Zay Flowers, after Jalen Waddle, after Jameson Williams. I know you guys would take Tet Tedro McMillan ahead of at least Flowers and waddle, right?
Dave
Oh, way ahead.
Jamie
Yeah, yeah. Way ahead.
Adam
And Jerry Judy is wide receiver 35 going 93rd overall on Yahoo after Chris Olave, after Romo Dunes and then after Judy at wide receiver 35, we have Abuka and Piersall at 36 and 37. And there's one quarterback that's got very good value in Yahoo ADP. It's Kyler Murray. He's going 12th. Okay, fun show. Anything. Anything you guys want to leave us with? Let's. I've one. One last segment. Ready? Look at the first four rounds of the draft we did in Draftathon. Give me your favorite build and why.
Heath
I can't read that.
Jamie
Gave me Rashi Rice in round four.
Adam
So that must have been an auto pick. Well, maybe the first three rounds.
Heath
I love team two. Team two is really good.
Adam
Team two is Heath. He took Bijan McBride, T. Higgins, Ken Walker.
Jamie
It's pretty solid.
Adam
Can I get it? So it's just the.
Heath
You can go ahead and just say that Jerry Judy's on that team too.
Adam
Most likely my build was McCaffrey, Chase Brown, Josh Allen and then I definitely did not take Brisaw. That was an auto pick.
Jamie
Team 10 is great.
Adam
Team 10 is a. Is I'm on Russell Brown, Derrick Henry, Jaden Daniels.
Jamie
Oh, no, I'm sorry. Then I'm looking Team.
Adam
Oh, team. Yeah. Okay. Team nine. Team nine was the audience team Nico Collins, Brock Bowers, Travion Henderson, Joe Burrow.
Dave
You're only showing 11 of the 12 teams.
Adam
Sorry. Let's get to team 12 then. There they are. I like the first three picks.
Jamie
I was pretty solid until round four.
Adam
Right. Neighbors H.N. kittle and then McLaurin in round four. Who Heath would like that pick, right?
Heath
I think that's right where I have them.
Adam
That should have been Evans. Go neighbors H And Kittle. Evans.
Jamie
Yep. Love that.
Dave
Yeah, I do like that better.
Adam
All right, everybody.
Dave
I like Schaefer's team.
Adam
Oh, Jeffrey.
Dave
And then three wide receivers.
Heath
I've got one last thing to finish up with Adam.
Adam
Okay.
Heath
Because we talked about last year. My parents got into fantasy football for the first time ever.
Adam
Nice.
Heath
And they were the highest, highest scoring team through the first four weeks of the season and started owing four. Had a very, very disappointing team or season. So last night they drafted, drafted a very good starting lineup, but they ended up with too many wide receivers on the bench. And it's a running back heavy league. 10 team league. So Braylon Allen's available on the waiver wire. Dylan Sampson's available on the waiver wire. Most of the backup running backs that we like, Jerome Ford's out there. Ray Davis is out there. They have Demario Douglas and Cedric Tillman on their bench.
Adam
Yeah. Goodbye to those guys.
Heath
The reason I bring that up is to highlight to people and we've talked about this before. When you have enough wide receivers on your team, when you get to round 11 that you can just pound handcuff running backs. That's what you want your last four picks to be is those types of guys. So I'm going to tell them to drop to Mario Douglas for Braylon Allen. I haven't decided.
Dave
I'm gonna drop Tillman for Samson too because there's more upside long term for Samson than there is for Tillman.
Jamie
Who are there?
Heath
Running backs, starting running backs?
Jamie
Yeah.
Heath
Ashton Genti, DeAndre Swift, of course. And then they have Zach, Zach Charbonnet and Tank Bigsby. And Rico Dowdle.
Dave
Too.
Adam
Yeah.
Jamie
Douglas and Tillman than Dowdle.
Adam
Yeah.
Heath
So we're gonna drop Douglas and Dowdle and pick up Allen and Samson.
Dave
Well, Tillman and Dowdle. But yeah.
Adam
And I'm going to tell my parents what fantasy football is. And we'll. We'll see. We'll see how that's received. Is.
Jamie
Your dad won't answer, so he's.
Adam
Yeah, okay. You know, I think he knows what a podcast is. All right, we will talk to you all tomorrow.
Dave
Does he know. Does he know what you are?
Adam
Yeah, I. If someone said, hey, Ron, what does your son do for a living? I don't know that. What he would say. He would. Maybe he'd be in the.
Dave
I'd say that for both of his sons.
Adam
Yeah, he'd be. No, he knows that he'd be in the ballpark.
Dave
He'd be like one of them used to be on Nickelodeon.
Heath
He talks a lot.
Dave
The other eats a lot of Greek yogurt.
Adam
Oh, I gotta get back on that train. I gotta look. Lose some weight, guys. Before football season, you have to.
Heath
160.
Adam
I don't even want. I'm too afraid to step on a scale. All right, see you later, everybody. Talk to you. Hopefully tonight with some other Bye. Paramount podcasts.
Dave
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Adam
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Jamie
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Adam
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Heath
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Episode Title: Players We Keep Drafting, ADP on Other Sites, Travis Hunter Projection
Date: August 28, 2025
Hosts/Analysts: Adam Aizer, Dave Richard, Jamey Eisenberg, Heath Cummings
This episode dives deep into the players the FFT crew can't stop drafting, how Average Draft Position (ADP) values shift across different fantasy platforms, and offers new context on rookies—most notably Travis Hunter's expected usage. The hosts share data-driven insights, personal draft habits, and practical tips for both casual and obsessive fantasy managers as draft weekend approaches.
Heath’s big shares: Dak Prescott, Justin Fields, Ken Walker, DeAndre Swift, Devon Achane, Luther Burden, Cooper Kupp, Brock Bowers.
Dave: Big on Jared Goff as a late QB, Devon Achane, Alvin Kamara, Jaguars RBs (Bigsby, Etienne, Tootin), Jameson Williams (as early as late round 4), Ricky Pearsall, Tyler Warren and Tucker Kraft (late-round TEs).
Jamey: Loads up on Justin Fields, Drake Maye; RB’s McCaffrey, Travion Henderson, RJ Harvey, Jalen Warren, Braylon Allen; WR’s CeeDee Lamb, Courtland Sutton, DK Metcalf, Egbuka, Matthew Golden; TE: David Njoku, Tucker Kraft.
With draft weekend coming, the FFT crew provides a blend of encouragement, actionable strategy, and savvy reminders to help you build rosters you love—no matter your platform, draft spot, or league size.