Quarterbacks Preview: Just Keep Waiting?  (07/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Fantasy Football Today – "Quarterbacks Preview: Just Keep Waiting?" (07/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Release Date: July 30, 2025
Hosts/Authors: Adam Azer, Dave Richard, Jamie Eisenberg, Heath Cummings, and the Fantasy Football Today Crew
Description: The podcast delves into strategies, rankings, and insights to help listeners dominate their fantasy football leagues, featuring segments like Start or Sit, Waiver Wire, Buy or Sell, Grade the Trade, Fantasy Cops, and listener interactions.

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1. Introduction

The episode kicks off with brief distractions from advertisements and promotional segments. Once the content begins, Adam Azer sets the stage for an in-depth discussion on the quarterback position for the 2025 fantasy football season.

Notable Quotes:

• Adam Azer [01:31]: “Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.”
• Heath Cummings [07:20]: “One of my favorite late-round guys to grab.”

2. Overview of Quarterback Rankings

The hosts present an analysis of quarterback depth for the 2025 season, noting the average draft positions (ADP) and recent performances.

Key Points:

• Quarterback is a deep position with several strong contenders.
• Notable QBs and their ADP:
  • Tuatanga by Loa – QB20
  • Trevor Lawrence – QB21
  • Bryce Young – QB26
  • Sam Darnold – QB27

Notable Quotes:

• Adam Azer [01:41]: “So it does look pretty deep in 2025.”
• Jamie Eisenberg [03:13]: “Jamie Fan bleeping tastic.”

3. Draft Strategies for Quarterbacks

The discussion shifts to strategies for drafting quarterbacks, emphasizing the importance of waiting for value picks while considering elite options.

Key Strategies:

• Jamie Eisenberg: Advocate for waiting until later rounds to draft a QB, unless an elite option is available.
• Heath Cummings: Focuses on drafting top-tier QBs without reaching early, preferring value in later rounds.
• Dave Richard: Prefers waiting until after the first 30 picks, targeting QBs like Jaden Daniels, Joe Burrow, or Jalen Hurts in later rounds.

Notable Quotes:

• Heath Cummings [07:15]: “Deep comma draft at fair value.”
• Jamie Eisenberg [07:53]: “No, I think it, you know, I've done drafts where I didn’t like what was on the board…”

4. Sleepers, Breakouts, and Busts

The hosts categorize quarterbacks into sleepers (undervalued picks with potential), breakouts (players expected to exceed expectations), and busts (high-risk picks likely to underperform).

Sleepers:

• Jordan Love: Potential to recapture his early-season form.
• Trevor Lawrence: Expected to thrive with a new offensive system.
• Caleb Williams: Hopes tied to offensive line improvements and receiving upgrades.

Breakouts:

• Drake May: Projected to benefit from offensive upgrades and a favorable schedule.
• Justin Fields: Seen as a high-upside QB who can win weeks despite inconsistency.

Busts:

• Baker Mayfield: Concerns about consistency and regression from last season.
• Anthony Richardson: High injury risk and potential for inconsistency.

Notable Quotes:

• Heath Cummings [48:18]: “I might land on Jordan Love being my favorite sleeper…”
• Jamie Eisenberg [50:16]: “I love Justin Fields because he has as much upside as almost anybody.”

5. Impact of League Formats on QB Strategies

The hosts discuss how different league formats (e.g., 4-point vs. 6-point passing touchdowns, Super Flex) affect quarterback draft strategies.

Key Insights:

• 4-Point Passing Touchdown Leagues: Increase the value of rushing QBs like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.
• Super Flex Leagues: Encourage drafting multiple QBs, potentially elevating elite QBs like Mahomes and Mayfield.
• Deep Leagues (14-Team): Maintain the strategy of waiting for value picks due to the depth of the position.

Notable Quotes:

• Heath Cummings [15:48]: “Whenever it's less than six points…”
• Jamie Eisenberg [42:19]: “Be more inclined to…”

6. News and Notes

Brief updates on player statuses and team news relevant to quarterback performance and fantasy implications.

Highlights:

• Isaiah likely fractured foot: May miss preseason but expected to join Week 1.
• Justin Jefferson: Expected to be ready for Week 1.
• Travis Hunter: Potential impact on multiple positions due to increased snap counts.

Notable Quotes:

• Adam Azer [18:45]: “Which could be good for Brian Thomas Jr.”
• Dave Richard [39:17]: “We have another show Monday and Wednesday…”

7. Super Flex Strategies

A focused discussion on strategies specific to Super Flex leagues, where quarterbacks can be flexed alongside other positions.

Key Points:

• Top Picks: Emphasizing the importance of securing at least one elite QB early.
• Flexibility: Allowing for multiple QBs to increase weekly scoring potential.
• Trade-offs: Balancing QB picks with other high-value positions like WR and RB.

Notable Quotes:

• Jamie Eisenberg [46:12]: “It depends on where you're picking.”
• Dave Richard [46:53]: “The only guy I like from that group enough to elevate is Fields.”

8. Final Thoughts and Conclusions

The episode wraps up with final considerations on quarterback drafts, emphasizing patience, value extraction, and awareness of potential risks.

Concluding Insights:

• Elite QBs provide significant weekly advantages but come at a higher draft cost.
• Waiting for value in later rounds can yield solid starters without sacrificing other key positions.
• Awareness of individual QB risks (injuries, inconsistency) is crucial for making informed draft decisions.

Notable Quotes:

• Adam Azer [57:02]: “Do you see that for any of these five guys?”
• Heath Cummings [58:28]: “But he has boom games but he also has a lot of bad games that may not matter to you.”

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Overall Summary:

In this episode of "Fantasy Football Today," the hosts provide a comprehensive preview of the quarterback position for the 2025 fantasy football season. They analyze the depth of the position, discuss various draft strategies tailored to different league formats, and categorize quarterbacks into sleepers, breakouts, and busts based on their potential performance and risks. Emphasizing the importance of patience and value picking, the hosts advise listeners to avoid reaching early for quarterbacks unless securing an elite option is feasible. Additionally, the episode covers relevant news updates impacting quarterback performances and concludes with strategic insights to help listeners make informed decisions during their fantasy drafts.

Listeners who haven’t tuned in yet will find this episode invaluable for understanding the quarterback landscape and refining their draft strategies to gain a competitive edge in their fantasy leagues.

Transcript

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[Dave Richard]

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports.

[Adam Azer]

What a play.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Can you believe this?

[Heath Cummings]

Again, it's time to dominate your fantasy league.

[Adam Azer]

Off to the races and he stays on his feet. This is going to go the distance.

[Dave Richard]

Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath.

[Adam Azer]

Well, quarterback looks like a pretty deep position this year. Tuatanga by Loa has had some really nice seasons. He's QB20 in average draft position. Trevor Lawrence is QB21. Go a little bit lower on the list. Bryce Young finished the season very strong. He's QB 26. Sam Darnold was a top eight quarterback last year on a per game basis and overall he's QB27 in average draft position. So it does look pretty deep in 2025. This is our first position preview. We're going to roll out all four positions over the next week and a half. It's time to really get into it, get you ready for your fantasy drafts. I'm kind of nervous right now, guys. Believe it or not. I don't know why. I just. This is an important show.

[Dave Richard]

It needs to fire up, man.

[Adam Azer]

Good, good. I pass.

[Dave Richard]

This is like the first padded practice. Yeah, like we're in pads now, right?

[Adam Azer]

I just don't want to get demoted. All right, so I'm Adam Azer. Let's hear from Dave Richard, Jamie Asberg, Heath Cummings. What I want you to do. Fun little exercise. Sum up the quarterback position for fantasy football purposes in five words or less. Heath, you're very good at this. Show them how it's done.

[Dave Richard]

Elite top four and deep.

[Adam Azer]

Oh, not bad. Very nice. Who wants to go next?

[Heath Cummings]

I. I can go next.

[Adam Azer]

Okay.

[Heath Cummings]

Deep comma draft at fair value.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Jamie Fan bleeping tastic.

[Adam Azer]

You want to hear something crazy though? You're not, you're not even going to believe this. Last year we had 11 quarterbacks average 20 or more fantasy points per game and six point per passing touchdown leagues. That was the fewest in 12 seasons. So it wasn't a very deep position last year and I'm stunned by that. I didn't just saw that really this morning or last night really and I went back, I triple checked. So only again, only 11 quarterbacks average 20 or more fantasy points per game and six point per passing touchdown leagues the fewest in 12 seasons. So Jamie, why is it so fan bleeping Tastic if it really wasn't last year?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Well, I think we're going to get a full season of Justin Fields. I think we're going get a better Kyler Murray. I think we get a much better Drake May. I'm hoping that we're going to get a better Caleb Williams. So some of the younger slash mobile quarterbacks I think are going to be better for fantasy than they were last year over the course of a season. Obviously Fields had that stretch where he was great. May had some positive moments. So I think that group of quarterbacks is going to help then. I think we're going to see what we saw last year where there's going to be hopefully one or two Baker Mayfield like performances, you know, so maybe it's Jordan Love bouncing back. Maybe it's Jordan to a bouncing back. Especially now with their secondary being awful. We could see a lot of shootouts. So I, I just think the position's in a great spot. You know it's, it's really always sort of been a position where you've seen one or two guys come from, you know, either late round picks or not drafted at all and I think we're gonna get a few of those again this year. So it's just, it's just really, you know, again you, you know, like he said, elite. You can take one of the elite guys. You could also wait and I think do very well at the position again.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. Another thing is rushing was up last Year and passing past volume was down last year. Scoring was up last year a couple of years in a row where scoring was down in the NFL. But last year because of the kickoff rules, I would, I would think that was one of the primary drivers of it. Scoring was up. But we're seeing, you know, a lot of too high safeties and teams willing to run the ball. So just keep that in mind when you look at the quarterback landscape. Might make those rushing quarterbacks even more valuable.

[Dave Richard]

Also like looking at the guys who didn't average 20 fantasy points per game. And I'm using our main show league stats from last year. Okay, like two average 19.96. Kyler averaged 19.96. Caleb Williams didn't, but he got Ben Johnson. Trevor Lawrence didn't, but he got a great new head coach. That's going to make everything better. Like there's just lots of, lots of reasons for optimism about some of those guys who were just outside of 20 points per game.

[Adam Azer]

All right, I'm gonna run through just a few fun little stats here. We haven't had a repeat QB one in six point per passing touchdown leagues since Peyton Manning 20 years ago. 2003, 2004. So 21 years ago, it's been two decades since. Basically it's like winning the NFC East. It's hard to do in consecutive years finish number one in six point per pass in touchdown leagues. Josh Allen, we'll talk about this, but you know, can we make any bus cases for the top five? Well, Josh Allen, he threw a lot less last year and he ran a little bit less last year. Bo Nix was a top five quarterback per game in his last 10 games. Dak Prescott played eight games last year. He scored more than 21 fantasy points once, once in eight games. Brock Purdy's been a top 12 quarterback per game two straight seasons. Jaden Daniels. How about this? Jaden Daniels, in his last eight games, including the playoffs and excluding Week 18 which was a partial game and he averaged 32.5 fantasy points per game. Jaden Daniels was absolutely amazing down the stretch. Dave, I know you're going to like this one. Three straight Minnesota quarterbacks, Kirk Cousins twice, Sam Darnold once have been top 12 per game in 4 point per passing touchdown leagues. Top 8 per game in 6 point per passing touchdown leagues.

[Heath Cummings]

Why would I like that?

[Adam Azer]

Because I know you like JJ McCarthy this year. You've talked about him a lot throughout the off season. True.

[Heath Cummings]

One of my favorite late round guys to grab. Whether he's your second. He's not going to be your first quarterback whether. I don't even know if there's a weather here. He's just a great late round pick to stash and see what happens.

[Adam Azer]

And Bryce Young averaged almost 38 rushing yards per game in his last 10 games after regaining the starting job. All right, so let's start with this. Jamie, I'll throw it to you. What's your overall quarterback strategy for 2025?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Wait as long as you possibly can and figure out which tier you want to take a quarterback in.

[Adam Azer]

Does that eliminate you from taking an elite quarterback?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No, I think it, you know, I've done drafts where didn't like what was on the board and was the first to take quarterback. Took Lamar Jackson with a pick at the 34 turn. So it's just a matter I think of where you feel comfortable. But for the most part my overall strategy is to wait. I'm. I'm typically not going to take one of the first five quarterbacks.

[Adam Azer]

Heath, what's your overall strategy at quarterback?

[Dave Richard]

I'm gonna say a lot of player names and probably answer several of the questions next, but it's pretty specific. When Josh Allen and or Lamar Jackson get taken, I would like to take Jaden Daniels with my next pick. If he's still there. If because he's my QB1 and so I just wait until the quarterbacks start going now that's after the first 30 picks. If those guys go early, I'll just ignore them. If in the the round four range I can get hurts or burrow, I'm great with that. If not, I'll probably wait till round eight and take Justin Fields and then pair him with a safe qb.

[Adam Azer]

All right, so you've got the players that you want on your teams, right.

[Dave Richard]

Based on where they're being drafted right now. That's kind of what my strategy is is can I get Daniels right after Alan or Jackson? Can I get Burrow or Hertz a little later? If not, I'll just take Fields adp.

[Adam Azer]

Right now on fantasy pros just using PPR overall adp, it's kind of interesting if you just click on the positions specific on fantasy pros, it does change the order sometimes a little bit. So I'm just using overall PPR ADP. Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen are going at the 23 turn, going 23rd and 24th, which a little early for you guys, right?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yep.

[Heath Cummings]

Yes.

[Adam Azer]

But Jaden Daniels is going 33rd overall, which I don't really think is early for you guys, right?

[Dave Richard]

That's about right.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's on the cusp.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. And then Burrow and Jalen Hurts are going early in the fourth round, 37th and 38th overall.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Little early.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. So you know, it's kind of, it's, it's interesting. Oh, Dave, sorry, I got to get your overall strategy. Sorry. I was just going to say if you have an early pick, you've based on adp, not what we've seen in our draft, so we know we don't, we draft differently. But based on adp, if you've got an early pick, if you want a top five quarterback, it's going to have to happen at the 2, 3 turn or around there. Otherwise you're not getting Daniels. And based on adp, you don't have much of a chance of getting Burrow or Hertz. Could always, obviously could happen, but ADP says they're going early in the fourth round. So Dave, what's your overall quarterback strategy? Sorry.

[Heath Cummings]

So I recognize that this is a deep position and for me when I look at a quarterback ranked list, I see, I see quarterbacks into the early twenties that I'd be okay starting. Who you can make the case for can average around 20, 21 fantasy points per game in a six point per passing touchdown league. And that does kind of make me want to veer toward the, the elite tier quarterbacks, the guys that can give me an advantage there. The guys that I would expect to get 26 to 30 fantasy points per game from. And those are the names that are at the top of the list. But like Jamie and like Heath, I don't want to reach for them. I don't want to spend a top 20 pick on these guys. But I'd be okay going into round three if I felt like it was a fair value to get Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jaden Daniels. That's how I have them ranked. I, I don't want to purposely wait because I feel like if I can get one of those elite quarterbacks where it's not gonna crush me building the rest of my roster, I, I, I'm good with that. So I'm looking for a fair value no matter what. But that includes in the beginning of the draft and if you leave those quarterbacks in the late, let's call it like 27th through and later. Yeah, that's going to be the range that I'll go ahead and take one.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Of those passers, you know, to not reference our drafts. We did the St. Jude draft last night, which was 11 people who donated drafting with me and it was Lamar Jackson late round two at 22nd overall. It was Josh Allen mid round three at 30th overall. And then Jayden Daniels late round three at 34th overall. Joe Jalen hurts. I'm sorry. Joe Burrow went earlier than we have ever seen in our draft so far. He went 26th overall.

[Adam Azer]

When did Hertz go?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Hertz went in round four at 38th overall.

[Dave Richard]

I think you make a good point, Adam, about that, whether you have an early pick or a late pick, because especially when we're talking about round three, I think we've talked about the wide receivers that are still there late in round three. We don't love those guys. And you may not want to take a second running back there. And so. And the two top tight ends are gone. But early in round three, a lot of times Bowers McBride's still there. A lot of times maybe Ladd or T. Higgins is still there. There may be Kyron Williams still there. There's just there for me, there's a pretty big drop off between the other positions early in round three versus late in round three. And that's why I'm much more comfortable taking them after pick 30 than before.

[Adam Azer]

You're talking about the league.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Just to reference the draft again, Heath, to your point, because we saw in this draft four quarterbacks go in the first three rounds with Burrow going again a little bit earlier. But let's just say he went after Daniels or Hertz went after Daniels. So late round three, Wilson and JSN were still on the board. Garrett Wilson and Jason were still on the board. It really pushed down the running back. So this is going to happen. There's going to be a few players that get pushed down because of this. Of the quarterbacks, which I think the ADP is going to suggest or, or settle in. Where we see the three quarterbacks go in the first three rounds, without question, that is happening. Yeah, I'm. I'm sorry. Some in round two, I. I think we'll see Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen around two. Jane Daniels early round three. Ken Walker and James Cook fell to round four. Right.

[Adam Azer]

Well, Camara got taken around three. But I don't want to focus on that draft. I'd rather focus on adp.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Because I'm just saying it's. It's. We. We talk about our drafts a lot. This was a draft with users.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. But it's. Yeah, but it is just one draft. So I just want to. I just want to talk about like this, this decision that you have to make if you have an early pick. Right. Because you're saying Heath, there's this drop off at running back and wide receiver and tight end if you're picking early in round three compared to late round three. So you're more likely to take those guys rather than Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or Jaden Daniels, whatever. But the reality is, you know your next pick, you're not getting Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson or Jaden Daniels. And based on adp, you're probably not getting Jalen Hurts or Joe Burrow. So does that not make you more likely to take one of your truly elite, like the first quarterback off the board basically late in round two or early in round three?

[Dave Richard]

I'd like to see the percentage of drafts and you don't have this. So I do think that just because Hertz and Burroughs ADP is early in round four, sometimes what Jamie talked about just happened. One of those guys goes early in round three because all the quarterbacks get pushed up. I think that you shouldn't rule out if you have an early pick that one of Herz or Burrow will fall to the end of round four, especially if you have like the fourth pick or something. But to answer the question, yeah, I'm. If I have an early pick in round three, I'm fine just recognizing I'm not going to get one of the elite three and I may miss the top five.

[Heath Cummings]

And that's easier to do if there are a number of players at running back and wide receiver and tight end that you'd rather have. Like the really the easiest thing to do is once you're once your list at running back and so on, all the other positions is exhausted and you don't see a player you love. That's when you pivot to quarterback. It's the easiest thing in the world to do.

[Adam Azer]

Is there a format other than Super Flex, which we'll talk about at some point today, be it four point versus six point, non ppr, half ppr, full ppr, two receiver versus three receiver, whatever it might be. Is there a format that changes your quarterback draft strategy the most.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Whenever it's less than six points?

[Heath Cummings]

And the smaller the league, the more I want to get one of the elite quarterbacks.

[Adam Azer]

Yep, smaller the league. So what about 10, small 18. But what about smaller roster spots? What about. Do you have the same effect going from 12 teams to 10 teams as you do going from three receivers to two receivers? In other words, pushing the quarterback up, up?

[Dave Richard]

Not really.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, okay. All right. I do kind of. I mean, I talk about that all the time with tight end and it's more important there for tight end for me. But I still think we, I guess Dan started calling them. Well, I don't think he invented it, but the onesie position. So I think in the smaller roster spot leagues, they make up a higher chunk of your fantasy points. Might want to try to stand out there. But listen, this is not a position you should be stressing about. Great options throughout the draft. Don't reach for a quarterback. And yeah, if you're not going to get a top five quarterback, it's okay. You'll survive. I want to find out which quarterbacks you draft the most. We'll find out after we take a break. Actually, before we do that, I do want to promote a few things. I think we are down to now 19 spots available in the FFT Open. So if you're just joining us, if you haven't been listening in July or it's July 30th, right now we still have 19 spots available available in the FFT Open, which is a 24 league tournament, 12 teams in each league where you got to compete against us and a whole bunch of FFT listeners and viewers and others to win the FFT Open, which would be freaking cool. And we were going to raise $66,000 for St. Jude. Go to tinyurl.com 2025fft and sign up for one of the spots that remain in the FFT Open. Tinyurl.com 2025fft Meanwhile, Heath has an exciting new league he wants to tell you about.

[Dave Richard]

The FFT Dynasty league is getting ramped up. We will have two spots available for auction starting on Monday. And I just, we've got, we've got some CBS guys in the league. Of course. I just got a commitment last night. Theo Griminger from Fantasy Points, who has been on the show several times over the last three years, has agreed to be a part of the league. So if you want to play against me, if you want to play against Adam, if you want to play against Jamie, if you want to play against Dan or Theo, then this is a great opportunity and you get to raise money for St. Jude, which is the most important part.

[Adam Azer]

Excellent stuff.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

All right, which one we talk about more on the show, this one or the Big Burger?

[Dave Richard]

I will talk probably more about this one on FFT Dynasty.

[Adam Azer]

It will depend. If I'm doing well in this one.

[Dave Richard]

Then I'll you won't be doing well in the Big Burger.

[Adam Azer]

All right. Well, I have Jaden Daniels. I heard he's pretty good. All right. We're going to take a break and come back and we'll talk about which quarterbacks these guys find themselves drafting the most and who they kind of skip, and much more after this.

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[Adam Azer]

So Dave, which quarterbacks do you find yourself drafting the most?

[Heath Cummings]

I like to try and get one of those top five guys like I like I talked about. I just don't end up doing that a lot of the time because either they get taken in front of me or what have you. There's other players that I prefer in front of them or a lot of our drafts I'm picking toward the back end and I just don't end up really getting any of those players. I find myself getting golf a lot because he's such a great value late in drafts and I'll pair him with a second quarterback. Sometimes it's two veterans which I don't really love. I don't like getting like Dak Prescott and Jared Goff together. I prefer Goff and Drake may goff and Trevor Lawrence. Those types of combos are usually where I end up.

[Adam Azer]

Jamie, same question to you. Who do you find yourself drafting a lot.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

A lot of Justin Fields, a of lot. A lot of Bonix, a lot of Dak Prescott, a lot of Kyler Murray, a lot of Drake May, Justin Fields.

[Adam Azer]

Bo Nicks, Dak Prescott, Drake May, Kyler Murray. It's a lot. Okay.

[Dave Richard]

Heath, Jaden Daniels, Justin Fields, Brock Purdy, Jared Goff.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. We like Justin Fields and he's top 12 in ADP. I think the secret's out. Every time he's been a starter, he's been been a top 12 quarterback per game except for his rookie season.

[Dave Richard]

I'm about to move him up to.

[Adam Azer]

Seven and that's in six point per passing touchdown leagues. Obviously it holds in four point for passing touchdown leagues. So you're moving up to seven?

[Dave Richard]

I haven't yet. I want to.

[Adam Azer]

You haven't been eight?

[Dave Richard]

No, I think I have. Basically like in the projections I think he's around 11 or 12. But we've talked about this. I think we say it every year. So it's time. It's the quarterback Preview. In a one quarterback league when Jared Goff is QB17 available as late as you want to take him, you should not worry about the floor with your quarterback, especially if you're taking him in round eight. And Justin Fields has as much upside as almost anybody. And so I, I just keep finding myself wanting to move him ahead of some of these guys who project a little bit better, who have shown it a little bit more like Baker Mayfield, like Dak Prescott and just take the shot on Justin Fields and know that I can find a low end QB one just in case the end of.

[Heath Cummings]

The draft or on the waiver wire.

[Adam Azer]

And someone saying bruh, the jets stink, that really doesn't matter. It's not like the Bears were so good. It's. He's just going to use his legs so much and he hasn't even really been a super high rushing touchdown guy. Justin Fields, there could be more of that. I. Because we all like Justin Fields and because the industry likes Justin Fields, I do feel obligated to bring up a downside of Justin Fields. Obviously he's very turnover prone. I don't think he's going to. He fumbles a lot. I don't think he's going to lose his job or anything. But there's something to be said there. He's streaky. He has played 33 healthy starts. So not including games with Pittsburgh where he came in for three plays or something like that. Healthy starts for Justin Fields, 33 of them over the last three seasons and he has scored fewer than 20 fantasy points in 17 of them. So now look, I was saying the same exact thing about Lamar Jackson last year and Jackson, while he had been great, he had been very streaky, especially compared to other elite quarterbacks. Fields is like that. Lamar Jackson obviously, you know, bucked that trend last year, was extremely consistent. But Fields has been, over the last three years he's been a starting quarterback in terms of where he's finished on a per game basis when he's been the starter. But half the time he's not getting you 20 fantasy points in a six point per passing touchdown league. He has boom games but he also has a lot of bad games that may not matter to you. I know that type of consistency does matter to people. So I wanted to bring that up with Fields.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Just to point out in regards to this though is if he was more consistent and you had more faith in him being consistent, we would not be drafting him 10th or later at the position. I think if he was going to be the unquestioned 20 plus point per game guy week in, week out with a ceiling of maybe 30, then we're talking about a guy that's pushing for top five and not only just his expectation, his adp. The bigger concern for me is not his consistency, is we already got an example of what could happen to him which is the injury. And so thankfully he's playing through the dislocated toe and it doesn't seem to be a major injury. But anytime you have a quarterback that plays like this, it's very rare that they avoid injuries. We were lucky. We've been lucky, you know, for, for the better part of Lamar Jackson's career. I hope we're going to be lucky with Jayden Daniel's career. Russell Wilson early in his career, you know, was, was probably one of the smartest running quarterbacks we've seen. The downside though, I mean, Kyler Murray with the torn ACL, you know, some of the RG3, you know, when these guys run to the level that they run. Cam Newton with his back injury and everything that he started to deal with as his career went on, like if Fields can stay healthy, yes, there'll be a little bit of a roller coaster. You just have to understand that. But like he's going to win you a lot of weeks too. And that's the best part about it.

[Adam Azer]

He is going to win weeks.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I'll Also say that he, the fumbles are a concern. The interceptions I think have mostly been fixed. He had a 3.6 interception rate his first two years in the NFL. He has a 1.9 interception rate in his last 531 attempts. Not concerned about the interception.

[Adam Azer]

He's been a little more conservative, kind of boring version of Justin Fields. All right, so who do you skip? Who do you skip? Start with you, Jamie. Which quarterbacks do you don't really draft a lot of?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I don't draft a lot of the top five guys. Just depending on where they go and who I've been drafting with. The one that I, I may have a little buyer's remorse on. Just because he's not, He's a little, you know, iffy. Depending on where he falls is Mahomes because he's, he's the one that is the bridge, you know, I mean, I don't think you're gonna see a lot of rank lists, ADP lists, you know, anything where he's not close to the top five guys. There are going to be people, I think that have Baker ahead of him, which you know, you can make an argument for because he was better than him last year. But Mahomes just kind of. You get that lull of after the first three to four rounds of when the quarterbacks are done and then it's that five, six, seven, sometimes eight range. Like if he's there after round seven, I start to get a little bit more interested. It's that 5, 6 range where I see people draft. And we had this conversation about the pick by pick when Dan took him at the. I think it was the 5, 6 range, might have been the 4 or 5 turn. But it, it just makes me a little skittish to take him that soon just because again, we've seen the downside the last two years and especially after what happened yesterday where, you know, his number two and number three receiver got banged up on top of his number one receiver, maybe getting suspended. Like it could be another rough season for him where we might not see the him until the end of the season, depending on how the year goes.

[Adam Azer]

He, Dan took mahomes at the five, six turn. Five, six, he's going in round five. But you know, he's been pretty disappointing the last two years. He's finished around QB 11 per game, but he's been drafted the last two years as QB 1 or 2 per game. So if you take him as QB 6 and he finishes his QB 11, that's pretty disappointing. But it's not a huge bust where it's ruining your team. This is Patrick Mahomes I'm talking about. And then of course he's Patrick Mahomes. He could just smash that adp. So I, I, I'm kind of with you. I was, this is a guy that I was not drafting. But now as I do more drafts, I'm thinking, do I really not want to have very little Patrick Mahomes or zero Patrick Mahomes? It's a tough call.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

This kind of goes back to what Heath and Dave were alluding to with, you know, when you're taking him, for example, you can easily still get somebody late that will hopefully have some upside. Maybe not as much upside as Mahomes, but whether it's May or Williams or Lawrence or one of these guys that can hopefully hit with a new system, new coordinator, whatever the case may be, however you want to attach it to it, it's an easy way to go if you want to draft two quarterbacks, but then it's, you know, committing around five and maybe around 10 pick to two, two players at a position that you don't want to do.

[Heath Cummings]

And it's the silliest thing to, to think about because you want to be safe with Patrick Mahomes and you might count on Drake May or Trevor Lawrence to save you from Mahomes. And it's. The sentence sounds stupid coming out of my mouth, but it, it's been reality for Mahomes. Just hasn't been amazing the last years. But there are three things. Number one, they've talked all off season about being more explosive and throwing downfield. Matt Nagy said it this week that he wants to speak it into existence. There's been highlights in camp. It's been Worthy, it's been Hollywood Brown, it's been all the guys that have been catching passes, not field, they want to do more of that. Number two, there, there seems to be encouraging signs that the offensive line will be better. Their first round pick, Josh Simmons is practicing. He's not on the PUP list. If that line protects Mahomes better, he'll have that extra beat of time to throw downfield. That's a good thing. Number three, big question mark with their run game now, they'll, they'll have something there, but it's not going to be one guy carrying everything. And so if all three of those factors work out in Mahomes favor and he's throwing to Worthy and, and he's got, you know, Rashid Rice is going to play half the season at Least there's going to be opportunities for him to put up some good numbers. I'm comfortable with him as my QB6, and that's that. Even that sounds stupid because it's Patrick freaking Mahomes.

[Dave Richard]

Well, and I. I also have not drafted Patrick Mahomes hardly at all. He's been one of the guys I've skipped. I would say that the. I'm buying into some training camp hype here, but the. The Josh Simmons hype, that was a guy who was maybe the best left tackle in the draft who fell because of injury reasons. And he showed up to camp and just looked like maybe the best tight end in the draft class or best tackle in the draft class. And if. If they get the offensive line truly figured out this year, then I think you see more explosive plays. But the problem is not for me with him at QB6, it's that he's too much closer to the top five than he is to the next five.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yep.

[Heath Cummings]

Yep.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

And.

[Adam Azer]

And my other issue is it's Patrick Mahomes or It's Travion Henderson, RJ Harvey, Tea McMillan. I don't mean to just single out the rookies, but very exciting players that we're getting in important spots. They might be our number two running back, might be our flex or something like that. So it's. I just wish you were going around later. You know, it's a little early, I think, for us, but again, I don't think we want to sit here and say, don't have Patrick Mahomes on your team because it's seven combined touchdown passes of 20 or more yards. The last. Or air yards the last two seasons. Is it 20 or more yards or 20 or more? No, just 20 more yards. Seven combined touchdown passes of 20 or more yards the last two seasons. At his best, he had three straight years with 15 of those just in one season. He said seven in the last two. All right.

[Heath Cummings]

He also averaged 24 fantasy points per game in his last 10 last year. He did no Rasheed Rice in those games, Dave.

[Adam Azer]

And if he does that, he'll. He'll pay off at round. At QB6 and round six for sure.

[Heath Cummings]

That's an awesome value.

[Adam Azer]

Dave, who are you skipping?

[Heath Cummings]

Baker.

[Dave Richard]

Yep.

[Heath Cummings]

Because he's going sooner than I think he should. I. I think kind of like what Heath was saying about Mahomes being too close to QB5. Baker's going too close to QB6, and he should be going a lot closer to QB8. He's my seventh QB, but I don't want to take him where ADP says to take him. I want to take him if I can get him. Well, of course I want to take everybody as late as possible, but I don't even know if he's really worth an early round eight pick. I, I, There are a bunch of other players at other positions I'd rather roll the dice on than Mayfield, who's coming off an exceptional year. But we, we don't know how great of a thrower he can be. Can he do it two years in a row? I don't know if he's ever been good for fantasy. Two years in a row he hasn't. We don't know Godwin's status. There's a lot of hype around Abuka. I get it. I think he'll be fine. Will he be as electric as Godwin was for the first third of the season or like McMillan or Evans was toward the end? The new play caller definitely means some different play designs and they're, they're, they're throwing downfield too. That report's been coming out of Tampa and that's great, but can, can he really do it again? Is really where I become a skeptic of Baker. And I just, I feel like he's one of those quarterbacks that we should be waiting to draft at a value and not reaching for ahead of other players at running back, receiver, tight end.

[Adam Azer]

And the value is not there because right now he's around 6 pick on fantasy pros.

[Heath Cummings]

Forget it.

[Adam Azer]

He's around 6 pick and football. Guys, this is Baker Mayfield we're talking about.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think the one thing though, just just to continue to point out with this, I don't think anybody should be expecting him to do that again. And you brought this up, Adam, yesterday, and I think you're going to bring it up again today. So about the year to year, right.

[Adam Azer]

Were you ready? I'll do it right now.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, go ahead. All right.

[Adam Azer]

He averaged 26.2 fantasy points per game and 6 point per passing touchdown leagues last year. This is Baker Mayfield. So I looked over the last. Since 2013, however many years that is, there have been 30 quarterbacks who have averaged 26 or more fantasy points per game in six point per passing touchdown leagues. Only seven of those 30 average fewer than 22 fantasy points per game the following season. So 22 fantasy points per game is probably going to put you around QB10, something like that. So, so 7 out of 30 since 2013 have been worse than 22 fantasy points per game. Some, some quarterbacks had A huge drop off and we're not even top 15 the next year. It did happen, but most of the time, like, like for example, Heath last year you were talking about Jordan Love as a bust and he was going as like around the same range as QB7ish or so. I don't remember exactly. But he didn't have nearly as good of a season as Baker Mayfield. So the, the fall for Mayfield would have to be pretty big for him to, you know, be a bust, I guess not even be a top 10 or 12 or not even be a top 12 quarterback. It would have to be a pretty dramatic fall from last year.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, it would have to look like almost every other year of his career.

[Adam Azer]

True.

[Dave Richard]

Like I, I hear what you're saying and we are like part of that is, and I've said this number too many times, but it's, it's real time now. Everybody's got the pads on, so we should say it again. He had a 7.2% touchdown rate and making his career rates 5%. He was right around 5 the year before. And the difference between 7 and a 5% touchdown rate doesn't sound like like this huge deal. But when you're talking about 570 pass attempts, that's 11 touchdowns.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Like what if he'd thrown 30 touchdown passes last year?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

What, what is his touchdown rate from when he started playing well in 2023 through last year? Do you know that.

[Heath Cummings]

In 2023?

[Adam Azer]

No.

[Heath Cummings]

The second best touchdown rate is 5.6.

[Adam Azer]

The end of 2023. Because it's the other thing I brought up with Baker Mayfield is that at the end of 2023 he was averaging about 24 fantasy points per game. I think it was his last seven games, including the playoffs. So it has been a year and a half in this high powered Bucks offense which has been one of the best offenses in football for over, for basically a decade, you know, since they drafted Mike Evans. Look at all the quarterbacks that have come through there and put up numbers, including Ryan and that's Patrick, that's James.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Many different coordinators too, you know, in the Mike Evans era. And it's now two going on three for Baker. You know, I, I don't want to be the Baker defender here. I just, I, I just want to continue to point out like what he accomplished last year. He did that with a four game stretch where he did not have Mike Evans and did not have Chris Godwin and did not have Godwin, who was his best receiver to start the season for the last Eight games. And so now not only does he get Godwin back at some point during the season, we don't know exactly when, but at some point during the season he's now adding the 19th overall player in the draft in a mecca, Abuka, who may be the best rookie wide receiver. We don't know. It's good. You know, he's, he's certainly going to be in the conversation by the time we evaluate this class in a couple of years. So you're giving him now his best receiver back. You're giving him a first round receiver. You still have Mike Evans for whatever he's going to bring. At 32 years old, I think he's going to still be pretty good. I just don't know if he's going to be an elite fantasy receiver. That's a different story. You lose Tristan Worfs for however many games he's going to be out. That's part of it. Now in terms of the coordinator change, he said this on, on HQ on Monday that the really the only thing that's changed for them because Josh Grizzard is the past game coordinator from a year ago is just the terminology. They're doing a lot of the same things that they've done from last year. Clearly there's going to be some differences. Obviously you don't get a new job or bring in a new coordinator and there's not going to be some changes. So to Dave's point, maybe throwing downfield a little bit more, maybe doing some different things with the run game. Obviously there's going to be some changes but it's probably going to be minute by comparison to an entirely new staff coming in and overhauling everything. So I think Baker is getting drafted too soon. It would not shock me at all if he's still in the top seven or eight quarterbacks based on the decline, the regression from last year to maybe closer to what he was in 2023. So 26 points to 24 points or to your point, Adam, you know what these guys have fallen to when they've struggled after having a 26 point per game season to 22. He's still going to be a very good fantasy quarterback. It's just a matter of where you're drafting him, I think and that's, you know, I think personal preference.

[Dave Richard]

And just to answer Jamie's question real quick, he was right around 6% at the end of 2023. The active leaders in touchdown rate, Lamar Jackson and Aaron Rodgers are the only active quarterbacks over 6% for their career. Mahomes and Russell Wilson, the only two other quarterbacks over 5 1/2% for their career. So I wouldn't think you'd want to project more than five and a half percent for just about anybody.

[Adam Azer]

All right. I would say that's fair or he's good. Put him in the hall of Fame. All right, we got to move on here.

[Heath Cummings]

One last question on Baker. This is for everybody. Would you take him in round seven?

[Dave Richard]

No, no.

[Adam Azer]

But round eight is when I took him in our pick by pick.

[Heath Cummings]

James.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I would prefer not to. But again, you know, if that's the point where I start to get stuck on who's available and, you know, players that I like, then that's what I would start to consider.

[Heath Cummings]

Sure. And if he's the best available player, you're going to take him no matter what round it is. I prefer late round eight as well.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, so that's Baker Mayfield. We have a lot more quarterbacks to talk about here. We also have some news and notes that I'm going to get to the news and notes on the Friday Mailbag. But just some things that you you need to know. Isaiah likely fractured foot may not be ready for Week one. This is going to come up tomorrow in our Tight Ends Preview, but it doesn't seem like he's going to miss a lot of the regular season. He's going to miss a lot of the preseason, though, Pretty much all of it. Malik neighbors not believed to have a serious injury. Justin Jefferson is expected to be ready for week one. Meanwhile, ESPN's Kevin Seifert expects a much closer running back split in Minnesota than what we usually see. Michael Pittman hurt his groin. Travis Hunter basically wants to play every snap on offense and defense.

[Dave Richard]

Yes.

[Adam Azer]

Which could be, as Jamie pointed out last night on the live stream, could be good for Brian Thomas Jr. Because we don't think he's actually going to be able to play every snap on offense and defense. But if he's going to be that involved in defense, you know, could affect it could affect Travis Hunter's offensive snapshot. And you should definitely know the name. Jakory Crosby, Merritt. He's having a good camp. He's a favorite of Jacob Gibbs and someone that they've talked about on beyond the Box Score and a sleeper at Washington in that backfield. All right, quick break, a few more questions, then we'll get into ADP in.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

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[Adam Azer]

All right guys, let's go through these kind of quickly. How much does your strategy change in a 4 point per passing touchdown league rather than 6 point? We usually talk about 6 point on the show. We also when you hear us talk about rounds, 12 team leagues is what we're talking about. But Dave, four point versus six point, how much do things change for you?

[Heath Cummings]

Drastically when it comes to running quarterbacks. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, they're still going to be at the top. Jayden Daniels too. Jalen Hurts might be ahead of Joe Burrow in that type of format. Justin Fields will go higher. Kyler Muriel will go higher. Drake May will go higher. You get the point. Those rushing QBs, the guys that can give you rushing touchdowns which are still worth six, are going to be a.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Little bit more valuable.

[Dave Richard]

And I would say all QBs fall just a little bit if it's four points versus six.

[Adam Azer]

And don't forget about passing yards though, because there are some quarterbacks that don't run a lot but they throw for a ton of yards and they're still, they still hold up in four point passing touchdown leagues. It's really the guys that rely a lot on passing touchdowns that are going to get hurt the most. Your strategy, you guys all seem to say as I recall that in shallower leagues, you're going to be more likely to take a top an elite quarterback. Is that fair? Yep. Yep.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Be more inclined to. Yes. Not going to reach, but still be more inclined to.

[Adam Azer]

How about deep leagues? I know we, we rarely agree on this, but 14 team leagues are deeper. What are we doing?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Same strategy for me.

[Heath Cummings]

Me too. I want a fair value and if I don't get one, I know that this position especially is deep enough where you can wait a little bit and still come up with a good starter.

[Dave Richard]

I'm much more likely to wait. And instead of my plan being Justin fields in round eight and Jared Goff in round 14, it might be Jared Goff in round 14 and Anthony Richardson in round 15.

[Adam Azer]

It's another thing I want to point out. Over the last three seasons, it seems like ADP hasn't been as good. It's the best way to say this. There was a stretch where basically 10ish, nine to 10 of the top 12 quarterbacks at the end of the season were drafted as top 12 quarterbacks. So ADP was very accurate. We were drafting the top 12 guys and it was pretty accurate. The last three seasons, six, six and seven of the top 12 quarterbacks were drafted top 12. So we're seeing really good late round picks like Baker Mayfield and Bo Nix were not even top 20 in ADP last year. So this position has paid off with late round picks.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I almost look at it the other way though. Like not necessarily the guys who jump into the top 12, it's the ones who fall out of the top 12. Because this is what scares me the most about taking these quarterbacks early, like the C.J. strouds and Jordan Loves of last year, Dak Prescott last year. You know, whether it's injury, which is hard to, you know, predict, but it's the struggles that we may not see coming, you know. So Heath was obviously accurate in predicting that Jordan Love was going to struggle last year and he did. Now again, you could say injury was a part of that because who knows how he managed through it. You know, I really like to see when they, how far did they fall? You know, like Stroud was awful and you know, I don't think anybody saw that coming because they added to their receiving core. You know, it's, it's, it was, it was frustrating because he, he was playing okay fantasy wise in the beginning part of the season, then just everything crumbled around him and he was just abysmal to close the year. But it's like those guys, like, why are they falling out of it. Like how do we avoid the Anthony Richardsons again? You know, of just overhyping somebody and then he is just disastrous.

[Adam Azer]

Well yeah, how is that not. I don't think it's Jaden Daniels, but how do we not at least ask that question about Jaden Daniels when the two year, two quarterbacks that were being drafted as QB's 5 and 6 or 6 and 7 last year were two of the biggest busts in fantasy?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Well, I mean first off, the Anthony Richardson shouldn't be in the same conversation because he was so polarizing last year. You're either buying into what the hype and potential could be or you just completely avoiding him. Remember all these shows we did last year about Anthony Richardson and just are you taking him? Are you not taking him? Stroud I think is just not at the same level of Daniels from a production standpoint because of what Daniels does with his legs. So you know the, the struggles that you could see for maybe Jaden Daniels would be touchdown regression and then his receiving core could be awful. Yeah, like if Terry McLaurin does what these hold in, hold out receivers did last. I mean look what happened to Dak Prescott. You know, forget about the injury. He was not playing well. CD Lamb got off to a slow start, struggled. So you know, you could see maybe just a little bit of a sluggish start from a passing perspective. I just think the thing with Daniels is like if he does have a potentially down year, how much will his leg save? I mean he's.

[Adam Azer]

Well, we're saying the same thing about Richardson last year.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean but Richardson was just a disaster across the board and injury prone. Like there was nothing to say that he was going to, he was going to have to take a leap. Like you were buying into hope.

[Adam Azer]

It's true.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You know Daniel showed it to you like there, there's no quite. You can't. I, I would never compare those two.

[Adam Azer]

I wouldn't really either. But I do think it's worth bringing up just because Stroud and Richardson were such busts last year. Okay, give me your, your Super Flex strategy real quick guys. Heath, what's your Super Flex strategy?

[Dave Richard]

I mean if I have a top three pick, I'm taking one of the top three quarterbacks. If I'm at the end of round one, there's a chance I might wait until round three to take a quarterback. If people go really early on the quarterbacks and I can get two of the top five non QBs and then just settle for some of these guys that we Love as values. But I would, I'd really like to have at least one quarterback before I get through round three.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It so depends on where you're picking. Yep. Yeah, it really does this year more than any any other.

[Adam Azer]

But you definitely can have a super flex league and feel comfortable with oh, my two quarterbacks are Jared Goff and Justin Herbert and I'm absolutely loaded everywhere. Right. I mean, that's not a bad strategy. That's the. Right.

[Heath Cummings]

That's the upshot to it. Yeah. The, the theory. The theory, the exercise, the thought exercises. You're picking seventh. The first six picks are Alan, Jackson, Daniels, Burrow, Hertz, Mahomes. Do you reach for Mayfield or do you take, you know, Jamar Chase and then see who's available in round two?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

But it doesn't necessarily. Well, I, I think it's. Once you get past, it's. It's basically like pick eight because Mahomes is not going to go in the first five or six picks. He just, you know, any Super Flex draft I've seen, he's, he's the guy that you have to make the choice on at the end of round one. So it's, it's typically you see those first five guys go in the first seven picks because Jason and Robin or you know, potentially Lamb or Jefferson jump over Robinson, depending on the format. Barclays obviously in the, in the competition too. So it's the first five quarterbacks that go in the first seven picks and then it's. You have to make that call at the end of round one somewhere after pick eight of do I want to take Patrick Mahomes or Baker Mayfield? And I think that's the toughest call you have to decide on because if he's not taking that step forward or getting back to the level that he was, you clearly passed on one of the elite players at other. All right, so doing the early part of round two, I think that's the tough one.

[Adam Azer]

Listen, we're gonna have a Super Flex episode at some point. This topic deserves much more time. Let's do sleepers, breakouts and busts though. At the quarterback position we'll go Dave, Heath, Jamie. My favorite sleeper is.

[Heath Cummings]

I think I might land on Jordan Love being my favorite sleeper just because we. I know that last year was a disaster. Injuries absolutely played a part. In his first five games. He averaged over 26 fantasy points per game, so I'm kind of hoping he can rekindle that. And Matthew golden has sound like a revelation in packers camp. I think Jordan Love might be one of my favorite guys to just wait and wait and wait. Get Jared Goff in the double digit rounds, wait a little bit longer, get Jordan Love, go to battle with those two QBs.

[Adam Azer]

Heath.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, ADP will obviously determine that, but I would agree with Dave about Love over golf based on the fact that he's going around later in our ADP to give a different name. I'll go with a guy who's going seven spots after Love and CBS adp and that's Trevor Lawrence.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. Trevor Lawrence would be ideally your number two quarterback. Are you fine with him and then taking someone else or what?

[Dave Richard]

Well, he would be the second quarterback you would take. I think so. Yes. I but has the potential to turn into a top 10 guy.

[Adam Azer]

He needs to have and he probably will have much lower air yards per pass attempt than that's. If you just think about the offense that Liam Cohen ran like shorter passes, higher completion percentage, more yak and obviously he's got Travis Hunter. But the rushing was also way down. The attempts and the yards per carry were down last year. I don't really know why that should bounce back for Trevor Lawrence. Jamie, who's your favorite sleeper?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

They took two of my favorites. I'll go Caleb Williams. You know, just with the hope that Ben Johnson and the offensive line upgrades can help him get get to the level of why he was drafted first overall. You know we saw some spurts of it last year when the coaching change happened. So Ben Johnson system, you know, with now DJ Moore lining up in the backfield and the additions of Colston Loveland and Luther Burden, hopefully it leads to, you know, Caleb Williams being a borderline if not top 10 quarterback this year.

[Adam Azer]

All right, we'll go in reverse order. Jamie Heath, Dave, favorite breakout Drake May.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

For me, you know, just excited about what I've seen so far from Josh McDaniel system and what he's done in camp. Love the fact that you take his 10 healthy games last year he was on pace to be the third best rushing quarterback. Obviously take a lot of quarterbacks best performances, you could say that they may have been in that range too. But he was on pace for those 10 healthy games that he played for 630 rushing yards in those 10 games. I think it was like seven. He was over 21 points per game. So the addition of Stefan Diggs, the addition of Kyle Williams, the addition of Travion Henderson, just a lot of things working in his favor. Great schedule for Drake May. He's a top 12 quarterback for me.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, Heath, who's your Favorite breakout.

[Dave Richard]

We've talked enough about him but it's got to be Justin Fields.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, it's funny because he's, he's always good. It's like he's almost a sleeper but it doesn't matter. He.

[Dave Richard]

Well I, I mean his current ADPs just in like at the 9, 10 turn. I would take him in round 8 but you said sleepers when you weeks breakouts when you leagues and Justin Fields has a chance in round 8, 9 or 10 to win you a league.

[Adam Azer]

Dave. Favorite breakout.

[Heath Cummings]

Trevor Lawrence gets the number one receiver in the draft added to his team. Gets a prized play caller and play designer and Liam Cohen to to call the shots. And I think Jacksonville is going to be a potent, high scoring team. Questions about who will run the ball and how effective they'll be doing it. And Lawrence is a sneaky runner too. He'll get you some numbers on the ground.

[Adam Azer]

You guys want to hear a fun sleeper call by the way?

[Dave Richard]

Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

Joe Burrow. I mean I just don't like he should.

[Dave Richard]

His ADP is 39th overall.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah but he was the number two quarterback in a six point per passing touchdown league. You could really argue that he should be QB2. No, I'm just saying this is like.

[Heath Cummings]

Guys, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm gonna make, I want to make a, a breakout call if I can. I think this is the year for Josh Allen.

[Adam Azer]

People are sleeping on Joe Burrow. I think.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, if he, if at 39th overall.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, he was better than Josh Allen last year.

[Heath Cummings]

And Amy, do you have a bus call that you want to make here? Maybe someone go out on a limb just like Adam did.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Anthony Vidal's gonna stink.

[Adam Azer]

I'm just saying.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Wow, that's.

[Dave Richard]

I'm not sure it's Tyler Shuck's year. I think you probably should stay away from him.

[Adam Azer]

2022. In 2022. In 2022, Joe Burrow averaged 29.1 fantasy points per game when Chase and Higgins were healthy last year. 28.2 fantasy points per game. You're getting him as QB5. He could be QB1 in six point for passing touchdown leagues. I don't really think he's a sleeper. I just was having fun with that.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I told, I told Adam because he was evaluating the teams in the draft last night. I said the way to win in an atom judging contest of teams is.

[Adam Azer]

To think that's not true. No, it's not true.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

He automatically every team and I kept saying I don't like team two. No, they took Joe Burrow in round two.

[Adam Azer]

I. They took him in round three, and I said that was too early.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, right.

[Adam Azer]

All right, who's gonna be a bust this year? Dave?

[Heath Cummings]

I don't know if there is like an easy slam dunk bus case, but the quarterback that's moved down the most in my ranking since the off season is Caleb Williams. It hasn't gotten it done in. Obviously, last year was a mess and we can throw that out. We should throw that out the same way we throw out Trevor Lawrence's first year. But this training camp, he has not done amazing. He's had moments just like he did last year. But I, I don't think that we're getting the reports that are glowing with optimism that we are like that, like we're getting in other places from other quarterbacks. And I would have hoped that he would have taken a jump already and had a better command. There's problems with this quarterback center snap exchange in Chicago, and that's. This is the second year of that happening. He was terrible in red zone drills this past week. I. I'm a little nervous about him. I don't want to take him as a top 12 quarterback.

[Adam Azer]

All right, Caleb Williams, and he is going. I don't know if he's 12. He might be 13th or something like that. He's right around there in ADP. Actually, he might be about. You might be about 15th. But there's. There's a round. Round 10 has Purdy, Prescott, Goff, Caleb Williams, they're all. And Justin Herbert. They're all very, very close in adp. Heath, who's a bus for you, I.

[Dave Richard]

Mean, I'll do the same thing I did with the breakout since the guy we've talked about over and over and over already in the show. But it's Baker Mayfield. Based on adp, he's being drafted in round six. You can get Jared Goff, Caleb Williams, Dak Prescott, Brock Purdy, Justin Herbert in round 10. There's just no reason to draft him four rounds earlier than those guys.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, that's Baker Mayfield. I think everyone's pretty much signing off on that one. Jamie bust for you.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's just average job position. And it's Lamar Jackson being drafted too soon.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. Two, three, turn for him. And the earliest you take Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen is when?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Late round three.

[Adam Azer]

And I think Dave and Heath are probably closer to mid round three on that.

[Heath Cummings]

I'll go as far as early round three.

[Dave Richard]

Those are guys I. Like I said, I have skipped them. I do not. I have them 32 and 35. So I agree with Jamie, but I have skipped them because I just take Jaden Daniels after they go and I.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I don't think we've seen the, the worst of it yet. I think as we get more drafts happening, they're going to be in the middle of round two for sure.

[Adam Azer]

All right, we haven't talked about Bo Nix, Kyler Murray, Justin Fields. I'm sorry, we have talked about him. Brock Purdy. We haven't talked too much about Dak Prescott. We could get into a little bit more Justin Herbert, CJ Stroud definitely have to dedicate more time to Drake May. So let's go into adp. Let me just recap the sleepers, breakouts and busts. Dave said sleeper Jordan Love. Heath said Trevor Lawrence and Jamie said Caleb Williams. Breakouts. Jamie said Drake May, Heath said Justin Fields. Dave said Trevor Lawrence, who was a sleeper for Heath and a bust. Dave said Caleb Williams. But you know, I think Baker Mayfield might be your pick. We just kind of, kind of already talked about.

[Heath Cummings]

If it's based on adp, it's Baker.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. So Baker Mayfield, I think, for everyone and Lamar Jackson for Jamie. So we'll go to ADP here and I'll just ask you. Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Jaden Daniels, Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts. They're going between 23rd and 38th overall. These are your elite top five quarterbacks. Let's have a separate not an ADP discussion. It's not a. They're going too early. Do you guys see. Wow, they were actually busts cases for any of these five guys. They're going to have very disappointing seasons. The way C.J. stroud and Anthony Richardson did, the way Patrick Mahomes has two years in a row. Do you see that for any of these five guys?

[Dave Richard]

Nope.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

The only one who makes me somewhat nervous would be Daniels. Not that he's not going to be a top 10 quarterback, but that he can fall to like seven or eight.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I mean, I could. I could make the case for Josh Allen. If their offensive system stays the same as it was last year and they don't run very many plays and he doesn't throw very many passes and there's just a touchdown blip, then Josh Allen could. Could definitely. But I don't actually think that's going to happen.

[Adam Azer]

No, it's.

[Heath Cummings]

If Lamar Jackson doesn't average 25 fantasy points per game, is he a bust?

[Adam Azer]

I wouldn't. If he's. If he's over 24, I'd say probably at 20th at the 23rd overall pick. Maybe, but not, not like I lost my league because of Lamar Jackson.

[Heath Cummings]

Sure. Well, he hasn't been above 25 in his five prior years to 2024.

[Adam Azer]

Right. But he's usually at 24 fantasy points per game and six point per passing.

[Heath Cummings]

He was at 23.7 in 2023 and then you'd have to go back to 2020 to find a year north of, of 23 points.

[Adam Azer]

I don't want to do this, Dave.

[Dave Richard]

That highlights though the Lamar Jackson risk is that he leaves several games early.

[Adam Azer]

Well, that's what I was going to say. If you take out games, not really a risk. There were two seasons where he played, you know, 8ish snaps left, his season ending injury, take those games out. Then he is over 24 fantasy points per game those years. So I factor that in. Some people don't. That's fine. All right, so let's move on. We've talked about Mahomes in round five. We'd love him in a little bit later than that, please. Baker Mayfield in round six. Round eight is when we're going to maybe take Baker Mayfield. Now. I think things get so interesting because, you know, you do sleepers, you do breakouts and you could say Bo Nix might be a breakout and Kyler Murray might be asleep, whatever. I just have a hard time picking. I feel like I like everyone, so. No, I'm serious.

[Heath Cummings]

No, I get that. I get that.

[Adam Azer]

I mean, personally, I don't draft Bo Nix because I don't see him being that much better than Dak Prescott or Caleb Williams or, you know, Purdy and he goes so much earlier than them. So I don't usually draft Bo Nix, but I have a hard time. And Drake May, you're not seeing Drake May on, on the screen right now, but he's got just as much upside, I think as Bo Nick. So that's a guy I don't usually take only because he's the first to go. But I like everyone. I, I don't. This is, you know, me, I always like everyone. So how do you guys feel about, about quarterback at this point? When we get to QB8, Bo Nicks, Kyler Murray, Justin Fields, Jared Goff, Brock Purdy, Dak Prescott, Caleb Williams, Justin Herbert, Jordan Love, C.J. stroud, Drake May, and on and on.

[Heath Cummings]

Dave, because I like so many of these guys, I'm willing to wait and just instead of targeting one or two of them, I'll just take the one at the most fair value.

[Adam Azer]

Right? Right. You could just do this is there.

[Dave Richard]

The only guy I like from that group enough to elevate and maybe reach for is Fields. And it's because one or two of these guys are going to be available so late that I can draft them later. But I agree with what you're saying about Bo Nix. Adam, I, I like him. He projects as a top 10 quarterback, but if he's going to go two or three rounds ahead of the guys in the same tier, I'm never going to draft them.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think this also, again, I'll go back to what we talked about with the pick by pick, like when you know who you're drafting with, it makes it so much easier for this position, specifically, because if there's a history of guys in your league taking quarterbacks early, you know, you have the ability to wait.

[Adam Azer]

How do you guys feel about Kyler Murray?

[Heath Cummings]

He's cubing more optimistic than I usually am.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think he's a borderline top 10 guy, that if, if, if, if, if he runs more and has a little bit more touchdown luck through the air, then he's going to be a top five guy. But it's hard to justify that based on what we've seen. So the fact that he says he's going to run more, I, I think that's encouraging. You know, when you start to stack him up to like, I, I think Fields has a higher ceiling, personally, but I could see them having similar outcomes. Feels like Baker safer, feels like Nick's is safer, feels like Dak is somewhat safer if you want to, you know, go that route. But, you know, you know, once you start to look at some of the guys after him, like I would take him, I think there's more upside for him than Brock Purdy. I think there's more upside for him than Jared Goff. I just think that Kyler, if he hits, is going to have a, a potentially monstrous season. But it's, it's so hard to say that there's any certainty behind that based on what we've seen.

[Dave Richard]

And this is one of those situations where we've had some training camp highlights that have come out of Arizona that Marvin Harrison Jr. Has done some incredible things. And it's actually not been encouraging to me because he's, Every time I see him, he's between the numbers and the sidelines, making some crazy catch 30 yards downfield.

[Adam Azer]

Right.

[Dave Richard]

And so I, I agree with everything Jamie said about Kyler's upside. He's lower in my projections than most of these guys. I just push him up in the rankings. Because of the upside. But I, I'm scared that this offensive system is just going to be the same.

[Adam Azer]

What we've seen from Kyler Murray from when he was elite to when he's just top 12 ish is much less deep ball success. His first three seasons he gained at least 994 yards and threw six to seven touchdown passes on deep balls which I consider 20 or more air yards. Last year, 553 yards, four touchdowns. So just not even close. Deandre Hopkins was a really big part of that success. I, I would say if you, if you buy into Marvin Harrison, if you think Marvin Harrison is going to have a breakout year, then you should probably draft Kyler Murray because he's going to run for 500 yards. He had the most rushing yards for a quarterback without averaging 20 fantasy points per game last year since Daniel Jones in 2022. He's going to run for a lot of yards. And if you think that Marvin Harrison is going to elevate his passing production, you should definitely be buying into Kyler Murray. We just, we're not sure about Marvin Harrison at this point. All right, so we've talked about Justin Fields. Now let me ask you this is. Is Bo Nix, Kyler Murray, are they in different tiers than Goff, Purdy, Prescott in four point? Is. Are they in four point for passing touchdown leagues? You might say in six point I'm just going to wait. But in four point for passing touchdown leagues are you more likely to take Bo Nix as QB8?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I would take Kyler and Fields ahead of Bonix.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. Someone is going to be a huge bus and have a bad year. Who's your best bet?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Production wise?

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, like from the, from the list. From the group we're talking about right now. Let's say rounds eight through 10 or.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

11 based on where they're drafted or how they finished last year.

[Adam Azer]

Just, just like they suck. They sucked this year. Like Dak Preston last year.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think Jared Goff could suck this year.

[Heath Cummings]

I think Justin Fields could too.

[Adam Azer]

Okay.

[Dave Richard]

Bonix.

[Adam Azer]

I think Bonix good. Yeah. Why Heath? Why? I feel like. I just don't feel like he's that good the system quarterback. But you know, it's a great system. It is a great. Yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

I mean that's it. Brock Purdy's a system quarterback. He does a pretty good job for the Niners. A good system quarterback. It's just an amazing system that he's in.

[Dave Richard]

You were well right. But Bonix is not Lamar Jackson either.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No.

[Dave Richard]

In any way shape fashion or form. What I would say is like you were asking that question about Jaden Daniels and why, why won't he have the fall off? If there was a quarterback in the rookie class that had success last year and the league just figures him out, Bo Nick seems like that guy to me. Like they defenses just take away the three things that Sean Payton and Bonix want to do and he falls flat. I hope it doesn't happen. I like Bonix, but I think it's more likely than the rest of these guys.

[Adam Azer]

It's specifically it's he. He threw the ball at the line of scrimmage or behind the line of scrimmage so much. If they make him use his arm a little bit more, throw the ball downfield, maybe things go different. I think we have to put Caleb Williams on the list. Right? I'm. We haven't really.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

Yes.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

Is he. But yeah, you're right. So you were talking about quarterbacks like 8 through 15.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, I wasn't specific enough but Caleb's at the back end of this. Knicks, Kyler, Justin Fields, Jared Goff, Brock Purdy, Dak Prescott, Caleb Williams group and then, and then I'd say Justin Herbert because he's in the same round, you know, Herbert. I'm a little surprised Herbert is as high as he is.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, it's just its name.

[Heath Cummings]

I mean it's how he finished last year too.

[Dave Richard]

But he's good, but it's a bad situation.

[Adam Azer]

What about Dak? Dak has been top eight per game in four of the last six seasons. At times he's been absolutely elite. But he, he was bad last year, as I said earlier, one game out of eight with more than 21 fantasy points and he threw over 50 passes in that one game. Does he bounce back and in what way, Jamie?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Well, I mean the addition of George Pickens and a run game, that could be awful. I think is. Is a plus for him. You don't like the offensive line injuries that they're dealing with right now, so that's a little concerning for a non, I don't want to say non mobile quarterback, but a guy coming off a significant hamstring injury at 32, probably not going to be as mobile as he once was. And you know, even after the ankle injury he wasn't as mobile as he once was. So you know, the, the fact that there's going to be a lot asked of him, can he sustain a high level of production. I just think it's such a great buy where you're getting him for what the upside can be. So, yes, last year was a disaster. I do think, again, the slow start for CD Lamb and just everything that sort of happened to that team wasn't ideal for Dak. And then he goes down and you just, you know, disaster across the board. But by all accounts, he's healthy, he's moving well again, maybe the best receiving core he's had. You know, I'm trying to think when Amari Cooper was there, but it just feels like CD Lamb can destroy anybody he faces, and he's talking about that. And Pickens is going to be a big play threat. And Ferguson's back, hopefully healthy, after missing some time last year. Like, it just feels like it's set up for Dak to have a good season. And the cost is. Is pretty fantastic.

[Adam Azer]

All right, let's move down the list here. So we've got Herbert, then we've got Jordan Love, C.J. stroud, Drake May, J.J. mcCarthy. Does Drake May just stand out in this group here?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's not even close.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Azer]

I mean, some people are thinking big. Oh, we gotta get. We gotta get that email. I suck at this. When are you on next, Heath?

[Dave Richard]

We had that. You didn't read the email yesterday. It was on the notes yesterday.

[Heath Cummings]

This is the perfect time to read it.

[Adam Azer]

It is, but we're already like an hour and five minutes here.

[Heath Cummings]

Read the damn email.

[Dave Richard]

Is this the defensive Heath email?

[Adam Azer]

Mike is dismayed that Heath is dis in May Trekker, Dear Vic or Ryan, or may I continue to be shocked and dismayed by the low ranking for Drake May by the FFT3. Well, that's not Jamie anymore because you haven't the top 12, right? Yes, especially by my favorite fantasy analyst, Heath. He has. Okay, let's see if I could skip ahead with the vagueless implications in mind. I don't understand how he has Drake May 21. Do you sell him 21st?

[Dave Richard]

He's in that range.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. When the Patriots are favored in 11 games after being favored in zero last year. He was ninth in rushing yards, 16th in attempts last year. Josh McDaniels is go. He's a phenomenal offensive coordinator. He designed Cam Newton 12 rushing touchdowns in 2020. He turned Mac Jones relevant. Let's see. The Patriots offensive line was offensive to my eyes last year. This year they're going to be better. I'm not expecting much out of Diggs, but he's an upgrade. And Henderson. Henderson should be an upgrade, too. Take all of that. Now combine it with FFT's consensus Patriots DST ranking of 30th. Where are the points for this team coming from if Vegas has them favored in 11 games? So that's the gist of the email.

[Dave Richard]

What I didn't know Vegas had them favored in 11 games. But I also don't think if Mike Vrabel is the head coach that being favored in 11 games would be a positive for Drake Mays fantasy production. I think that they would probably rather run the ball a little bit more. They've talked about May running less because generally outside of the Cam Newton year in a Josh McDaniel system you want to get the ball out quick, hit the slot wide receiver. We've talked a lot about Demario Douglas hit the running back out of the backfield. That's always been a staple of a McDaniels and I, I project his rushing totals to go down anyway because of efficiency. He averaged 7.8 yards per carry last year. No quarterbacks do that. Like maybe Lamar has a season where he does that. But you should probably expect him to lose about 2 yards per carry. And he said it, he was 16th in rush attempts at the quarterback position. So kind of average in that regard. He just had three or four really long runs and that elevates it when you only have 54 rush attempts. So I, I don't hate Drake May. There's a lot of. Dave said he likes 25 quarterbacks or something. But I, I don't think this is a good receiving core. I don't think it's a pass heavy attack and I don't think Drake May is going to be top 10 in rushing yards of quarterback.

[Heath Cummings]

How could they be favored in 11 games?

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, I don't think that's what AI.

[Heath Cummings]

I don't think that's right.

[Adam Azer]

They're.

[Heath Cummings]

They're over under win totals eight and a half.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. But if you, if you google, how many games are the Patriots favored in? That little AI thing says 11.

[Dave Richard]

Well so I'm gonna, I doubt it even more now.

[Adam Azer]

Well, all right. They're favorited in these state games. Okay. So that's Drake May. Look, he's got exciting upside. He did average the most yards per carry for a quarterback since Michael Vick and Christian Ponder in 2011. But range of outcomes. Yeah, I know. Right. And okay, so I think there's reasons to like him. He's got a, I mean I was watching his tape last night. It's not that I didn't know it or anything but just to get refreshed. I mean he's got an amazing arm. He Makes some terrific throws. He also makes a lot of mistakes, so a lot of fumbles last year. Interception rate was high. If you can clean that up, then you're on the path to success. All right, who else we got here? We've got. So, so yeah, I don't know. Herbert Love, Stroud. May. Herbert and Stroud kind of stand out as a little early. I think you still have McCarthy.

[Heath Cummings]

I'd rather roll the dice on the other two.

[Dave Richard]

Love is definitely my favorite in that group.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yep.

[Heath Cummings]

I'll take May 1st and then love.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Oh, May for sure.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. But then you also, you have, you have J.J. mcCarthy. You have to. You have Trevor Lawrence later.

[Heath Cummings]

I'd like Lawrence.

[Adam Azer]

And, and then you get, then you've got Michael Pennix, Cam Ward, Matthew Stafford. Stafford could definitely be a stream. Streamable guy in six point for passing, touchdown leagues. You've got Anthony Richardson, who. I mean, if he wins the job, it's should not. He should not.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

He's winning the job.

[Heath Cummings]

I think, I think it's looking that way now.

[Adam Azer]

He's gonna be, he's gonna be worth using, isn't he?

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, yeah. He needs to move way up.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

He's. He is criminally undervalued.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, so you like Drake May so much. You like Drake May or Anthony Richardson.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Oh, May. I mean, look, there's so much more of a safety factor with Drake May at this point. You know, Richardson is an injury risk. He's at risk of getting benched if he has a, you know, huge turnover game or stretch of turnovers like they, they are. They are not going to be shy. I think about putting him on the bench if he struggles. So look, it's, it's, it's probably not as, as safe as Joe Flacco being there, but I think, you know, they, they paid Daniel Jones a pretty good backup salary to, you know, challenge for the starting job. I just think Daniel Jones had the opportunity to run away with it and he, you know, vomited all over him.

[Dave Richard]

He was like running all by himself 60 yards downfield and then tripped and fell. No, then that's the thing. Like, just real quick. From a projection standpoint, it's maddening to project the Colts and the Browns because if I. The difference between projecting those quarterbacks, it changes like six different position players at other positions.

[Adam Azer]

Sure.

[Dave Richard]

And it's a big move.

[Adam Azer]

All right, so listen, I know you're probably mad at Anthony Richardson, but you can't ignore him in fantasy. He could be a real steal.

[Heath Cummings]

Not in round 12. You can't ignore him when would you start? It was. He was tougher to draft each of the prior two years because it meant like a decent pick.

[Dave Richard]

As soon as he's named the starter his ADP is going to skyrocket.

[Adam Azer]

Right.

[Heath Cummings]

But even if it. Even if we get to late August and he's drafted in round 11 it's still an easy gamble to take.

[Adam Azer]

Now we're gonna finish I am.

[Heath Cummings]

I am critical of this guy.

[Adam Azer]

We're gonna finish with this easy on the breakout Breakout Ometer Breakout O meter. Give me your. Give me how much you like these guys on the breakout O meter and let's not get too specific as oh they already had this kind of can.

[Heath Cummings]

Finish breakout meaning a career year.

[Dave Richard]

So you're going to put Robert Jackson on the breakout.

[Adam Azer]

Not not breakout meeting career year. Let's change it.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's already up to great stuff.

[Adam Azer]

Can finish, can finish in top can finish top 12 oh meter so the.

[Dave Richard]

Top 12 oh meter. Okay.

[Adam Azer]

Top 12 oh meter. Yeah to a tongue of Iloa 7.

[Dave Richard]

7, 8 if he stays healthy.

[Adam Azer]

Trevor Lawrence 786 Michael Penix 4 5, 3 Cam Ward 1, 24 Stafford 115 it's amazing. I got the same combination on my luggage. Anthony Richardson.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean you wrote that joke.

[Dave Richard]

Duh.

[Heath Cummings]

Actually that joke was written like 40 years ago.

[Dave Richard]

Five, six.

[Heath Cummings]

No it's a six. He's definitely got potential to do it.

[Adam Azer]

Bryce Young. I'm gonna go 5:3. I was pretty encouraged watching him last night.

[Dave Richard]

Man, we just talked about 16 quarterbacks.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Before we got to these guys.

[Adam Azer]

Why should Trevor Lawrence be so much higher on the top 12 oh meter than Bryce Young? They're both number one picks. They're both hopefully thriving with he I'd say he did thrive at the end of last year with a new scheme.

[Heath Cummings]

It was outstanding at the end of last year.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

Aaron Rodgers on that and that he stays healthy for 17 games and that his is his receiving core anywhere near as good as Trevor's?

[Adam Azer]

I'd say no but his offensive line might be much, much better. Could be Sam Darnold01 so funny.

[Heath Cummings]

I'll go three. I'll give Sam a little love and.

[Adam Azer]

Then I don't think there's anyone else Aaron Rodgers. Geno Smith. Russell Wilson, Shadur Sanders. Jackson.

[Dave Richard]

I'll give Russia too.

[Adam Azer]

Okay.

[Heath Cummings]

Jackson negative too.

[Dave Richard]

Malik neighbors loves him.

[Adam Azer]

Let me tell you where Russell Wilson has finished in six point per passing touchdown leagues per game in the last four seasons which have not been good seasons for him. QB 13, 17, 14 and 15 in four point sorry. That's four point QB 13, 19, 13 and 15 and six point. So based on that up to three, he'll smash his ADP. I don't think he hasn't been top 12, but he could be 16, 17. All right.

[Dave Richard]

Did you ask Flaco, Joe Flacco if he played 17 games?

[Adam Azer]

Joe Flacco is the last guy on my list. Tyler Shuck, Jalen Milro.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

But you brought up Shador before flacco.

[Adam Azer]

Just doing ADP, bro. He's higher than him.

[Heath Cummings]

Where's McCarthy on that list?

[Adam Azer]

Oh, he already did McCarthy. He's about 18th or something. Round 13.

[Heath Cummings]

He's a six or a seven to finish top 12.

[Adam Azer]

All right.

[Heath Cummings]

The problem is that we didn't go through, like, the actual 16 quarterbacks at the top who are also going to be like eights, nines, and tens.

[Dave Richard]

I say, I think, Dave, you've got like 12 players tied for QB12.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Which is exactly how we view it.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I can't really trust you reading lists anymore after you gave Dan credit for Jared Goff being a correct answer when he was.

[Adam Azer]

Why did I do that?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Correct.

[Adam Azer]

It's really amazing. I'm just.

[Heath Cummings]

That was a very funny segment, by the way.

[Dave Richard]

So we've had a few instances of these things over the last two years. Is Dan a worse contestant or is Adam a worse host?

[Heath Cummings]

Games just have games.

[Dave Richard]

You're a great podcast host, but you've messed up almost every podcast game I've been a part of.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Dan. Dan playing the Fantasy Feud is the greatest thing that's ever happened to the show.

[Heath Cummings]

He was unaware the rules to Family Feud.

[Adam Azer]

Of course I'm a second time. Of course I'm unaware of the rules. Of course I haven't seen Fantasy Family Feud. Of course you think about. You think I'd be going out there and making these mistakes if I had seen Family Feud. Of course, I haven't seen Family.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Show the picture of when Dan was fixing his. His setup.

[Adam Azer]

We have that. Go for it. Hey, vote for us podcastawars.com. we gotta go. We'll talk to you with our tight end production preview tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today. See you later, everybody.

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[Adam Azer]

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