Rashee Rice/Quinshon Judkins News and a Superflex Mock Draft! (08/15 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Fantasy Football Today: Episode Summary Episode: Rashee Rice/Quinshon Judkins News and a Superflex Mock Draft!
Release Date: August 15, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of Fantasy Football Today, host Adam Azer collaborates with analysts Heath Cummings and Jamie Eisenberg to delve into the latest fantasy football news, player updates, and a comprehensive Superflex mock draft. The discussion primarily focuses on the implications of Rashee Rice's disciplinary hearing, the status of Quinshon Judkins, Isaiah Bond's potential signing, and strategies for navigating a Superflex league draft.

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Rashee Rice and Quinshon Judkins Update

The episode begins with a crucial update on Rashee Rice, whose disciplinary hearing is scheduled for September 30th (02:12). This timeline suggests that Rice may miss the Chargers' first four games of the NFL season against tough opponents: the Eagles, Giants, Ravens, and another team. Heath Cummings expresses uncertainty about Rice’s ranking, stating:

"I'm viewing it as there could be a settlement between Rice and the league before week one... It could be five or six games that he misses at the start of the season."
— Heath Cummings [04:20]

Jamie Eisenberg adds that drafting Rice in the seventh round is a reasonable approach given the associated risks:

"If he was missing the first four games... you might play the first half of the season and not be there for the fantasy playoffs."
— Jamie Eisenberg [04:20]

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Isaiah Bond Signing and Dynasty Implications

The conversation shifts to Isaiah Bond, a wide receiver who was undrafted due to sexual assault allegations but is reportedly signing with the Cleveland Browns. Adam Azer emphasizes the fantasy perspective:

"Isaiah Bond is a talented wide receiver. Would have been drafted if not for the allegations. If he's available in your Dynasty league, yes. Go pick him up."
— Adam Azer [10:43]

Jamie Eisenberg concurs, highlighting Bond's value in dynasty formats:

"He didn't just... use your commissioner powers. Just put him on your team in the Dynasty league."
— Jamie Eisenberg [10:47]

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Player Injury Updates

The hosts provide updates on several key players:

• Chris Godwin is expected to start the season on the PUP (Physically Unable to Perform) list, raising questions about his draft value.
• Justin Jefferson has yet to practice but is making progress.
• Matthew Stafford is dealing with a back injury and is scheduled to work out with his team.
• A.J. Brown is managing a hamstring issue, which could affect his availability.

Adam Azer notes the challenges these injuries present in drafting decisions:

"Scott Reynolds of the Pewter Report would be shocked if Chris Godwin doesn't start the season on the PUP list."
— Adam Azer [11:36]

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Superflex Mock Draft Discussion

The core of the episode revolves around a Superflex mock draft. Adam Azer shares insights from a draft in a 12-team Superflex PPR league, emphasizing the depth and strategic considerations unique to Superflex formats.

Draft Strategy and Picks

• Early Quarterback Picks: The first five picks in the draft were all quarterbacks, highlighting their premium value in Superflex leagues.

  "The first five quarterbacks to be in the first six or seven picks... were all QBs."
  — Jamie Eisenberg [20:11]

• Heath Cummings’ Approach: Heath opts for a quarterback-heavy strategy, selecting Jaden Daniels in the first round, followed by Brock Bowers and Dak Prescott.

  "I feel fantastic just because I've got my number one quarterback and my number seven quarterback and my number one tight end."
  — Heath Cummings [28:58]

• Jamie Eisenberg’s Picks: Jamie begins with Jalen Hurts, bolstering his quarterback position early, followed by receivers like Brian Thomas Jr. and Drake London.

  "I prefer Thomas at this point over Nakua and Saint Brown."
  — Jamie Eisenberg [43:14]

• Adam Azer’s Strategy: Picking from the seventh spot, Adam focuses on building a balanced team with key receivers like Jamar Chase and Nico Collins, while also securing quarterbacks like Kyler Murray and Matthew Stafford.

  "The first five quarterbacks... were all QBs."
  — Adam Azer [20:11]

Notable Quotes on Draft Strategies

• Adam Azer:

  "There is something to say about the depth at quarterback... Super Flex is my favorite thing about it."
  — [24:56]

• Heath Cummings:

  "If you have Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield, you don't need the steel at quarterback."
  — [48:14]

• Jamie Eisenberg:

  "Once you get past those top three guys [tight ends], then I'm just going to let the play itself out."
  — [31:05]

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Draft Analysis and Team Builds

The hosts analyze their respective teams based on their draft picks:

• Heath Cummings: Focuses on a strong quarterback lineup with Jaden Daniels and Dak Prescott, complemented by receivers like Devonte Adams and Jerry Judy.

  "I feel fantastic because I've got my number one quarterback and my number seven quarterback and my number one tight end."
  — Heath Cummings [28:58]

• Jamie Eisenberg: Balances his team with Jalen Hurts, top receivers, and a solid tight end strategy, ensuring depth across positions.

  "I like Chuba more than Swift and Chuba keeps falling it seems like. I was gonna take Swift and Judy."
  — Heath Cummings [27:56]

• Adam Azer: Emphasizes running back depth and strategic quarterback selections, aiming for flexibility and resilience in his lineup.

  "I'm having trouble with the rankings right now. Just because you have two of my top four guys and Metcalf is not far from where JSN is."
  — Adam Azer [56:34]

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Final Thoughts and Lessons Learned

The episode concludes with key takeaways for listeners navigating their Superflex drafts:

• Early Quarterback Value: Securing a top-tier quarterback early can provide a significant advantage in Superflex formats.

  "If you have Lamar Jackson last year and Baker Mayfield, then you don't need the steel at quarterback."
  — Heath Cummings [48:14]

• Flexibility in Strategy: Different teams adopt varying strategies, whether focusing on receivers, running backs, or a balanced approach. Adapting based on draft flow and available players is crucial.

• Depth and Backup Plans: Considering depth, especially at quarterback, can mitigate risks associated with injuries or suspensions.

  "I love Super Flex. One of the things I love about Super Flex is... you could just load up at quarterback."
  — Adam Azer [36:57]

• Awareness of Player Status: Staying updated on player injuries, suspensions, and team dynamics is essential for making informed draft decisions.

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Conclusion

This episode of Fantasy Football Today provides a deep dive into the intricacies of drafting in a Superflex league, highlighting the importance of quarterback depth, strategic flexibility, and staying informed on player statuses. Whether you're a seasoned fantasy manager or new to the Superflex format, the insights offered by Adam Azer, Heath Cummings, and Jamie Eisenberg are invaluable for constructing a competitive and resilient fantasy football team.

Notable Quotes:

• Heath Cummings at [04:20]:

  "I'm kind of just throwing at the dart in the middle of that risk."

• Jamie Eisenberg at [05:39]:

  "If he's going to be out... you may have been 0 and 4."

• Adam Azer at [22:05]:

  "How do you feel about tight ends?"

• Jamie Eisenberg at [31:05]:

  "I'm just going to let sort of the play itself out."

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Timestamp Reference Guide:

• [02:12] - Discussion starts post-advertisement
• [04:20] - Heath on Rashee Rice’s draft strategy
• [10:43] - Isaiah Bond signing and dynasty impact
• [11:36] - Player injury updates
• [20:11] - Jamie on early QB picks
• [24:56] - Adam on Superflex advantages
• [28:58] - Heath on team composition
• [31:05] - Jamie on tight end strategy
• [43:14] - Jamie on receiver preferences
• [56:34] - Adam on team comparison
• [48:14] - Heath on quarterback necessity

For a more detailed analysis and to watch the mock draft unfold, visit YouTube.com/FantasyFootballToday or read the full episode summary on cbsports.com/fantasyfootball.

Transcript

[Adam Azer]

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[Adam Azer]

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[Jamie Eisenberg]

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[Heath Cummings]

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[Adam Azer]

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[Jamie Eisenberg]

This is gonna go the distance.

[Heath Cummings]

Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath.

[Adam Azer]

What's up everyone? Do more Superflex, they say. Where's all your Super Flex content? They say. We say live mock draft right now. Superflex PPR3W receiver. Now, even if you don't play in a super flex league, there is plenty to take away from today's draft. Okay, we're still going to talk about other players that don't play quarterback. I'm Adam Azer with Heath Cummings And Jamie Eisenberg. This is fantasy Football today, presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook. Born in Vegas, we're already nine picks into our super flex league, the draft. I think we're gonna have to catch you up in a little bit because we have to talk about the big news with Rasheed Rice with Quinchon Judkins, Isaiah Bond. Also updates on Chris Godwin, Justin Jefferson, Matthew Stafford, A.J. brown. So let's jump into that. No pleasantries. Happy Friday, everybody. There's your pleasantry, Heath. Rasheed Rice, his disciplinary hearing is expected to take place on September 30th. That would mean after the first four games of the season, which are the Chargers, Eagles, Giants and Ravens. That's pretty tough first four games for the Chiefs, but they should have Rasheed Rice there. What are you making of all of this? There's so much to. To consider. What advice can we give on Rashi Rice right now?

[Heath Cummings]

That's exactly how I felt last night when I tweeted I have no idea where to rank Rashi Rice or Quinch on Judkins. You're welcome. Because I think there's. I'm. Here's how I'm viewing it, and this could be wrong. I'm viewing it as there could be a settlement between Rice and the league before week one. And if there is, I'm guessing it's going to be five or six games that he misses at certain the start of the season. It could be that there's a hearing on September 30th and they quickly make a decision and he misses four to eight games. There could be. And Dave highlighted this, I think, in his article that when DeSean Watson was before Judge Robinson. Robinson. Right. She released her decision one month after the hearing, in which case the fantasy playoffs are in danger. You might play the first half of the season and not be there for the fantasy playoffs. Those are all possibilities. So right now I'm drafting him in round seven because I'm kind of just throwing at the dart at the middle of that risk.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So here's, here's the, the two things that you got to sort of weigh with all this. If he was missing the first four games, we, we've sort of touched on this prior to yesterday's news. There's no bye weeks. You know what your roster is. You would have been able to sort of manage it. And then you get this player coming back. It could be amazing. Now we're dealing with the situation of you have him for the first four games, once he's potentially suspended, whenever that is week five, week eight, whatever the case may be, you're in bye week hell, you're dealing with injuries at that point. You're trying to manage your roster. It's a much different scenario. So do you want to potentially get off to a great start with your fantasy team and he's going to be a part of that in those first four games to some capacity, you know, whether he's a top 15 receiver, top 10, top 20, whatever the case may be, I think we'd all expect him to have some, some pretty good performances based on his track record. You may be 40 at that point. Is that scenario more appealing to you? And then you sort of manage it the rest of the way. If he's going to be out to whatever extent he's out. And as he illustrated, it may not be week five, it may be week eight, it may be week ten week, or it won't be weekend, they're on the buy. But it may be the latter part of the season. So if you're going to sort of say, okay, I'd rather have the hot, the quick start and be a part of that, because if it was the other way and it was four to six games at the beginning of the season, you may have been 0 and 4 and he may not have helped you at all.

[Adam Azer]

Well, let's also just remember, first of all, he's apparently having a very good camp. Is the number one receiver for the Chiefs, still was the number two wide receiver per game, on pace for 164 targets in the three games that he played, which was without Marquis Brown, with Xavier Worthy not really being much of a factor. But the last six games of 2023, he was the number eight wide receiver per game in full PPR. He was the number 12 wide receiver per game in non PPR. He was on pace for 159 targets. So obviously this is a big impact player. So guys going in round 7ish would be maybe like Jalen Waddle, Calvin Ridley, Jerry Judy, that group. Is that where you're kind of at with Rasheed Rice right now?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

That's right. So I have him around six, I understand where he has him around seven. You know, I think there's a wide range of potential places to put him, you know, in terms of where you're, you know, looking at it. So I think that range of receivers makes a lot of sense. It, it's also the trickle down, you know, what happens with Mahomes, what happens with Worthy and Marquis Brown and Travis Kelsey. Like there are There's. There are serious implications here as. As to what these guys could potentially do, you know, along with, you know, Rice being in or out, you know, So I. I think the one thing that. That's. I don't know if it's obvious. I think there's going to be some suspension this year, comparatively to maybe pushing it to next year. You know, there was some talk about that. You know, could this get delayed until next year because of this hearing? And then if there is an appeal, I would expect it to be at some point this season.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, how about Quinchon Judkins, who's taking first for sure?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I. I do think it's just quickly with Rice, like, if you're looking to pair him with somebody, the irony of all this, like, you could pair him with Jordan Addison, you know.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, that's a good point. That's a very good point. All right, so where's Quinn, Sean Judkins, Heath?

[Heath Cummings]

I don't know.

[Adam Azer]

You got the easy ones today.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, I mean, I'm probably. I. I'm doing a big rankings update this afternoon to try to, like, have a conviction about this, because I know I'm supposed to. I. At this moment, I would lean towards right in the round seven range. I think we. We don't. I'll be more confident when he signs his contract. I will be more confident if he's. And this doesn't help anybody in drafts, but maybe if we get to week one and he's not suspended yet, because you can still be suspended even without charges being pressed, and you can be suspended even for actions that happened before you were assigned to your contract. So that's still a possibility, although I don't think it's very likely. I also think he's not practiced. At what point does he actually start practicing with the team? He's a rookie.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

Like I would say. I would assume right now that he shows up for week one, he's behind Dylan Sampson at least, and maybe Jerome Ford, and then quickly overtakes those guys. But F4 as same as large of a role as he would have if he'd been there all of training camp. I'm less certain. So probably round seven also.

[Adam Azer]

Wow. So I'm actually surprised that you said. I thought it was gonna be closer to, like, round 10 or something like that. Just because you think about Josh Jacobs a few years ago, just holding out.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right.

[Adam Azer]

A veteran player holding on. The terrible start he got off to. Jonathan Taylor held out. He also got injured. But I. He's gonna really be behind the eight ball as a rookie who's not holding out, but he's not even signed. Right. It's, I mean, basically the same. Not at camp, no preseason yet. So all that. So okay, round seven for Heath. Jamie, how about you on Quinshawn Judkins.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

In the same range, I think actually I have him like round eight, around nine right now, but similar range, you know. So I put him, I had Caleb Johnson at 30 and Brian Robinson Jr. At 31 and I put him running between those guys, you know, just the kind of fallback. Still upside, you know, Caleb Johnson I think still has upside, obviously, and Brian Robinson a little bit, you know, concerning at this point. So right in that range of, of, of players, I think you're gonna see a three headed backfield in the first month without question if he's able to play. And he's probably going to be third and then works his way up, you know. So I think the difference between Josh Jacobs and Quinton Judkins, strictly from the missed practice time, they had to throw Josh Jacobs on the field and play him. Yeah, they can give Judkins a month of practice and minimal work. Like his preseason will be September.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, I'm drafting such a great super flex team right now. I can't wait to get into that. All right, so those are the big news items. But also there's Isaiah Bond who is a wide receiver who was facing sexual assault allegation and did not get drafted. Pretty good prospect. And the he said he's signing with the Browns. It hasn't happened yet. It might happen. Is this like someone that we should go pick up? And I don't even know if he's in our system right now to pick up in Dynasty because I was going to do it and couldn't. But he's a talented guy and surprised.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

He didn't just, you know, fix your commissioner power. Use your commissioner powers.

[Heath Cummings]

Just put him on your team in the Dynasty league. Yes, if you have a roster spot.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Adam.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. And I just want to say, I mean, to cut you off there, like I'm. I know there's a lot of controversy about Judkins and Bond right now and the Cleveland Browns, you know, potentially having both of them. I'm just going to, you know, I'm just going to avoid that and just talk about it strictly from a fantasy football perspective, which we have to do a lot of times, unfortunately. You know, hopefully the allegations are not true. Obviously, you know what I'm trying to say. So I'm not even going to get into that, but just Isaiah Bond is a talented wide receiver. Would have been drafted if not for the allegations. If he's available in your Dynasty league, yes. Go pick him up. I'll run through the rest of the news and notes. Scott Reynolds of the Pewter Report would be shocked if Chris Godwin doesn't start the season on the PUP list. So we'll see where he goes in this draft. But are we taking a Buka ahead of Godwin now?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yes.

[Adam Azer]

Are we taking Godwin ahead of Brandon Ayuk who's also expected to start on.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

The PUP list as of now? Yes. If this does come to fruition that he's going to be on the PUP list, I would still rather have Godwin, but that will be Ayuk's not in my top 60 so Godwin will probably be somewhere in the 50s.

[Heath Cummings]

I don't think you could draft either one of them in the first 10 rounds. Probably if there's I was trying to think of this the other day and somebody brought up Beckham was the best probably wide receiver and he wasn't actually on pup but at least missed the first four games of the year. His rookie year. I was trying to think of like who started the year on the PUP and was a good league winning pick and Jonathan Taylor was the closest suggestion I got. But Jonathan Taylor also missed week 13 through 15 that year with an injury also and so probably didn't help people win championships. You haven't had a lot of players that start the year on the PUP and then turn in great seasons afterwards.

[Adam Azer]

That's interesting. Okay, so a lot of them are coming off like torn ACLs and stuff like that I guess. But Chris Godwin is not. He's coming off a very serious fractured ankle I believe. But was.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

And then dislocated ankle and then a separate injury. So. All right, Goblin's dealing with issues. Justin Jefferson is not ready to practice yet, but he is making Progress. He went 11th in the draft we're doing now we're already in the middle of round four so we'll catch up on everything. But he was the third wide receiver off the board. Chase went six, Lamb ninth and Jefferson 11th in this Super Flex draft. Are you guys. Where's Jefferson for you in your wide receiver rankings real quick?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

3Rd 3 okay.

[Adam Azer]

Matthew Stafford is going to work out with the team on Saturday. Remember he was supposed to practice on Monday so that didn't happen. He's going to work out with the team on Saturday. He has an aggravated disc in his back. Puka Nukua was taken, I think, in the middle of the second round in this draft. Just want to help me out there. Puka, where are you? 22nd overall to Thomas Schaefer. I took Nico Collins before him. Brian Thomas Jr. Jamie took Brian Thomas Jr. Before Puka Nakua. This is, I think, very much related to Matthew Stafford. AJ Brown. When did he get drafted? He got drafted 27th overall. So Thomas took Puka and AJ Brown. AJ Brown is working through. Oh, I'm on the clock. Working through some things. According to his head coach, Nick Sirianni, he's got this hamstring issue. Holy moly. Jared Goff is still available. Yeah. Let's see what else. Who was that running back? Peek behind the curtain here. I'm on the clock with. We're in round four. I have Jamar Chase, Nico Collins and Kyler Murray in a super flex league. Can you. Can I reset the clock? Is that okay?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Sorry.

[Adam Azer]

Just did it.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, whatever Commissioner Adam wants, Commissioner Adam gets.

[Adam Azer]

All right. Jared Goff would be an easy pick, but I could also take Alvin Camara or. Why is this sorted? Sorry. I could take. I don't have a running back yet, so I could take Byron Williams.

[Heath Cummings]

Just completely blew my mind.

[Adam Azer]

I'm having trouble with the rankings right now.

[Heath Cummings]

I don't know why I thought we were drafting in different leagues for a second.

[Adam Azer]

We're doing the Super Flex League, right?

[Heath Cummings]

Yes.

[Adam Azer]

All right. Oh, Kyron Williams is available. Ooh, Kyren. Or Golf. Which quarterbacks are available? Golf. Stafford to A. Stroud Herbert. All right, I'm gonna gamble. I'm gonna take Kyron Williams. I'm gonna gamble that in about 12 picks, someone really good will be available to me, like maybe like a Trevor Lloyd. Like, I could even settle for a Geno Smith or a Bryce Young or something. I'll be fine. All right, Take advantage. I'm taking advantage of the quarterback depth in super flex leagues this year. Do I have any more news and notes to get through? Scott Bear of Marquee Sports Network says that Bears receiver Olamide Zakia has been so good that he's keeping Luther Burden on the second team. Meanwhile, the Bears top two or two of their top cornerbacks. Jalen Johnson and Kyler Gordon, have hamstring injuries. They're questionable for week one. I'd say at this point, not out, but we'll see if they can come back. They got Minnesota in week one, then at Detroit, then Dallas. So not good matchups that be missing cornerbacks. And Sam Laporta's got A minor injury. He's going to miss a little bit of time. Don't think that's a big deal. If you haven't signed up for BETMGM yet, use the bonus code Fantasy and you're gonna get up to a fifteen hundred dollar first bet offer on your first wager with BetMGM. So here's how it works. Download the BetMGM app and sign up and use the bonus code Fantasy. Deposit at least ten dollars and place your first wager on any game. And you'll receive up to fifteen hundred dollars in bonus bets if your bet loses. Just make sure you use the bonus code Fantasy when you sign up. Okay? Sorry we haven't talked about the draft. It was one of those days we could not skip the news and notes.

[Heath Cummings]

Important stuff.

[Adam Azer]

So when we come back we'll talk about the Super Flex draft. I have an FFT open update here and a draft a thon update with the show, the actual show when that's going to be. But we'll get into Super Flex after this quick break on fantasy football today. Ready to level up? Champa Casino is your playbook to fun. It's free to play with no purchase necessary. Enjoy hundreds of online social games like blackjack, slots and solitaire anytime, anywhere. With fresh releases every week.

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[Jamie Eisenberg]

Oh.

[Adam Azer]

I Gotta look at the roster grid, though. Two quarterbacks. Two quarterbacks. Two quarterbacks. I think three more. I think only two or three more quarterbacks are gonna be drafted by my next pick.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Well, Dan, RJ have none, so.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, don't help him out. Jamie, wait a second. No, I was wrong about some of the guys who were available. No, I got. I gotta take my second.

[Heath Cummings]

I'm talking to his tennis coach. In the middle of a tennis match.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You have to help the helpless.

[Adam Azer]

I'm gonna take. No. Some of the guys that I thought were on the available were not. So I had. I had to go. Go to a tongue of a loa as my QB2. All right, Jamie, do you want to pause the draft? Can we pause the draft?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No, just talk.

[Adam Azer]

I think you should pause it, but. All right, let's take a look at round one. The first five picks were the first five quarterbacks. Jackson Daniels to Heath, Josh Allen third, Joe Burrow fourth, Jalen Hurts, fifth to Jamie. Then I took Jamar Chase, then Patrick Mahomes went seventh. And then the next four picks were non quarterbacks. Bijan Robinson, C.D. lamb, Christian McCaffrey, Justin Jefferson, Baker Mayfield. So you do get seven quarterbacks in the first round. The first five picks were quarterbacks, then Chase, then Mahomes, Bijan Robinson, CD Lamb, Christian McCaffrey, justin Jefferson, and then Jake at 11, at 12, 13, at the 12 turn took Baker Mayfield and Bo Nix. All right, Jamie, what do you think about the. How round one played out?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I expect the first five quarterbacks to be in the first six or seven picks. So the fact that they went in the first five overall is not a surprise. You know, you could see. See a scenario where Chase or Robinson, you know, if somebody wants to put Barkley there, I get it in the first, you know, seven, eight picks. But I think you're going to see the first five quarterbacks go quite early, as they did here. And then it really becomes at what point do you start to see QB6, QB7, QB8? And ADP is telling us that those three guys went Mahomes at 7, Mayfield and Knicks at the 2, at the 12 turn. So that's really. I think the toughest decision in Superflex is when do you want to take my homes? When do you want to take Baker? When do you want to take Nicks? And for this draft, they went a little bit sooner, to be honest, than I expected. Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

Mahomes 7, Mayfield, Knicks, 12, 13 overall, when you still had Jameer Gibbs, Saquon Barkley, Malik Neighbors Devon hn, Nico Collins, etc, Ashton Genti on the board.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

And it does give you a pretty significant advantage when this happens, especially Brock Purdy going in round two if you do pick at the beginning part of the first round because then you get all this talent coming back to the other way. So like you know, you're in the sort of unenviable spot because of how it played out and your players are awesome, you know, to get Jamar Chase and Nico Collins your first two picks. But like Heath and I got the opportunity to get one of the top five quarterbacks and then still a stud as well. Like it's, it's a great place to be if you're in the first five or six picks, I think. Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

So Heath with the second pick has Jaden Daniels, Brock Bowers, Dak Prescott. So you actually are one of the more quarterback heavy teams. It's a three receiver league with a flex. It's full ppr. So for Heath to not have a single wide receiver until round five. Devonte Adams with the second pick of round five, that's an interesting start for you. So you have Daniels, Bowers, Prescott, Ken Walker, Devonte Adams. I'm going to tell you guys, I went back to the Super Flex League. Now listen, you don't, don't take three league, three years worth of one league and try to make it a generalization for the way Super Flex is going to go. But I looked at the two teams that made it to the finals in our Super Flex League each of the last three years and I'll tell you where they drafted their quarterbacks. Last year, Joel beat me in the finals. I drafted quarterbacks in rounds two, three and seven and my round seven pick was Baker Mayfield. That's why I made the finals. He drafted quarterbacks in rounds two and three. He only drafted two. 20, 23. Jack beat Marone. Marone drafted quarterbacks in rounds three, six, seven and eight. He drafted Kenny Pickett in round three and he still made the finals, taking Derek Carr, C.J. stroud, great pick. And Jimmy Garoppolo.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Kenny Picket in round three.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, I know. Yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

That doesn't sound right.

[Adam Azer]

It's what I saw. See what else? Jack had quarterbacks in rounds two and three. 20, 22. Marone was in the finals. He beat Dave by two points. Mind the clock. No, not yet. Marone drafted quarterbacks in rounds two, three and 10. Dave drafted quarterbacks in rounds one and three. He had an early pick. Not a lot of guys who made the finals had early picks. Actually Dave Took Patrick Mahomes third, then he took Kelsey, then he took Cousins that year, that was 2022. So if you notice the six finalists, only one of them took a quarterback in round one. A lot of rounds two and three though. But we think this year is even deeper than ever. And by the way, not a single one of them took quarterbacks in rounds one and two. But we think this year is, is deeper than, than it's been a long time at quarterback. So if you're looking at the draft board, you did have team 12 Jake take quarterbacks in rounds one and two at the, at the one two turn. No one else did that. He took a quarterback in rounds one and three, so did Marone and that was it. So after three rounds in this super flex league only three teams had two.

[Heath Cummings]

Quarterbacks and most, it sounds like most of the teams at least like four of six had two quarterbacks after three rounds that have made the finals. It was round two and three. Usually I had no intention of taking a quarterback at the 2, 3 turn. I had one quarterback in my queue after Patrick Mahomes went off the board and that was Dak Prescott, who's the guy I have ranked right after Patrick Mahomes. There were three quarterbacks drafted before I picked again but none of them were Dak Prescott. So that's why I took a quarterback early in round three.

[Adam Azer]

And now here I am, I'm up in round six and there's. I'm not going to take a quarterback because I have Kyler Murray and Tua, but Anthony Richardson, Michael Penix, Bryce Young, Cam Ward, Matthew Stafford, Geno Smith, Sam Darnold, they're all on the board so you could just load up at other positions.

[Heath Cummings]

The only thing I will say is like there is quarterback is deep. There's still a massive difference between a top five quarterback and the lower end QB ones. And I think there's still a pretty big difference between the low end number ones or high end number twos and the QB22 through 30 range. Like it's deep but there's still tiers so there's still value in getting some of these guys early.

[Adam Azer]

Of course I love Super Flex. One of the things I love about Super Flex guys is that I don't think it really matters where you are in the draft. You know people, there's guess there's been some research done that having the first pick is really having an early pick is very good in just a regular snake draft. I don't know if that's still true but it was. I don't. Do you have a preferred place to draft in a super flex league?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

First five picks this year.

[Heath Cummings]

I was gonna say top three.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. I'm just. I'm going to speed different and say. Actually, let's say that I don't want an elite quarterback, but I'd rather. I'd rather take Jamar Chase six than a top five quarterback. But we'll see. But I think that's just because, I mean, listen, your.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Your team is great. I like mine slightly better. How it worked out for me with the. The three receivers that I got in rounds two, three, and four, and they.

[Adam Azer]

Were Thomas London, jsn. So let's. Let's go through it here with Jalen Hurts. Yeah, right. Yeah. Hertz, Thomas London, JSN, Justin Herbert, and then Chuba Hubbard as your RB1. All right, so round two was Bo Nix, Jameer Gibbs, Saquon Barkley, Brock Purdy, Malik Neighbors, Devon Hn. So. So let's talk about that Purdy pick, right? Because Jacob is picking ninth. He takes CD Lamb in round one instead of. There are six quarterbacks off the board. So instead of Baker Mayfield or Knicks or whatever, he takes CD Lamb. And then in round two, he might be thinking, man, if I don't take a quarterback here, I might not love my quarterbacks. So he takes Purdy. The next five. The next. Jeez. There's not a quarterback taken until round three after that.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I don't like the party. Pick it.

[Adam Azer]

All right, that's what I was going to say. Like, don't take Purdy over Neighbors A Chan. Nico.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

That's kind of the point. Like, once the first five guys are gone, I think the only other quarterback that's most likely going to go, and I don't have adp. Maybe you could pull it up. Adam to Super Flex adp.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. Is. I can.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Mahomes is the only other one I could see going around. This is the only other one that I would take in round one. And it would be at the back end of round one. Like, I would rather take a player and then get Nick's Mayfield or Nicks in round two. And then, you know, the sliding scale of, you know, Prescott and Fields and whatnot, depending how you feel about these guys. And obviously Jacob likes Purdy. I'm just like, the way that it fell, he could have probably got Purdy in round three. Or A guy that I know he loves is Drake May for just pushing everybody down.

[Adam Azer]

I mean, I'm. I don't have a ton of Super Flex adp. I'm seeing draft sharks super flex. ADP has Purdy in round five but really not a lot of quarterbacks going super early. Except the elite ones are the. In the first seven picks.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's funny Heath while, while he's looking that up. Had Chuba gone I would have just messed with you a little bit. I would have taken Swift.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, well I, I was, I was just hope. I mean I like Chuba more than Swift and Chuba keeps falling it seems like. I think he went round five and one of our one QB mocks the other day.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I. I've taken him twice this week. So Once was the 10 team league I believe and oh no no, it was the half PPR league the other day the second time I've drafted him. Yeah. So I was, I mean I'm thrilled the way it works worked out but just in the, the round six where we. Round six knowing you were on the way back, like I was gonna see like if I had taken so because I know you don't have a receipt. You have one receiver. Like if I had taken Swift, what would you have done? And then would Connor have made it back to me because that was my two choices would have been if Hubbard was gone. Would have been Connor and Swift.

[Heath Cummings]

I would not have taken a running back at the two at the turn here if Swift hadn't been there. So he was, he was the la kind of the last of a tier for me. So it would have been wide receiver, wide receiver. If you've not done that, maybe I should have since Devonte Adams, my number one wide receiver. But I figured I might as well stay on brand and take Swift and Judy.

[Adam Azer]

How do we feel about tight ends? Well actually we'll get to that when we talk about Bowers. So okay, round two is Knicks. Gibbs, Barkley, Purdy, neighbors, Achan, nico, Brian, Thomas Jr. Genti, Puka, Nakua. I mean just incredible names here. Then Heath, you took Brock Bauer. So I do want to talk about that pick that was your second round pick. I'm on Rossane Brown and Derrick Henry were still on the board. In fact Robert Thomas who has the first pick went Lamar Jackson and then I'm on Ross St. Brown, Derek Henry. That's really good. But you decided like how do you feel overall about your first three picks? Daniels, Bowers, Prescott. So no running backs, no wide receivers in a three receiver PPR league but Daniels, Bowers, Prescott. Talk about that and talk about tight end and how you value it in super flex.

[Heath Cummings]

I don't change how I value tight end and Super Flex other than there's more quarterbacks ahead of them but I don't deprioritize them because of the super flex. I feel fantastic just because like I've got my number one quarterback and my number seven quarterback and my number one tight end. So like and it for me and how I value guys and this is kind of, I think important for people to look at is find out the players that you're higher than most other people and what positions those guys play and you can wait a little longer on those positions and prioritize elite players at other positions. Swift and Judy being the example, they're both top 20 at their position for me and they're going to be available in round six or seven. So I, I can find my number two at each of those positions a little bit later maybe than some people can if they don't like those guys as much. But no, I like. I think Bowers is a borderline round one pick in one QB leagues and there were five, six, seven, eight, nine players taken, nine QBs taken. So that pushes him back to 23rd overall. I love it.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You drafted him essentially based on where the receivers are going off and the running backs. You know in terms of Genting Henry, he drafted in the exact same range. You would draft him if it was one qb.

[Heath Cummings]

Yep. There's no. Yeah, there's nobody that went behind him that I would take over him in one qb and so I mean he was my best position player available and I wasn't taking a quarterback.

[Adam Azer]

Jamie, does your tight end strategy change at all in Super Flex?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Not really. I mean had had Bowers fallen to me where London was, it would have been a tough choice. I like London better but I would have taken him and certainly if McBride was there, if he had come back to me in round four, I would have taken him over jsn but that's close also. But Kittle would have been, you know where I took Herbert as well. So nothing really fell for me to the point where I would have taken one of those top three guys. And at this point, you know, once I get past those top three guys then I'm just playing the board. So I'm, I'm by far not going to reach for a tight end and I'm just going to let sort of the play itself out that way.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, I mean I've made the case on previous shows about super flex kind of devalues every individual player because you just have you know, 20ish more fantasy points in your lineup every week because you're starting another quarterback. I think my, my tight end strategy just does change. Not at the top, not with the top three guys necessarily, you know, a little bit. But, but like those guys can still be elite. But I'd prefer. Yeah, I'm not like, I'm not going to. At some point, I'm just going to just not care about tight end and just be totally fine with waiting till the end. I'm probably at that point now.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

We did that St. Jude mock on Tuesday night and the only reason I bring this up is because I just did the recap and I talked to some of the featured managers who paid extra to have their, their, their draft in the, in the league and the manager who picked 12th. I don't know if you remember the draft, Adam, but it was Derrick Henry and Nico Collins with the first two picks and then JSN and Amari and Hampton with their next two picks. And it was just kind of like a very balanced roster all the way through. Their Last pick went 13 rounds. Their last pick was their starting titan, which was Dallas Goddard. Like, hard to argue with that. Like once you get past, I don't know, Najoku, really for me, Kelsey Najoku. I'm sorry, I shouldn't say Najoku. Kelsey Hawkinson. So tight end 7. It's such a mixed bag of who can get you to that 10, 11 point range. They all could. And, and the group, I'm talking about the two rookies, Warren and Loveland, Tucker Kraft, Jake Ferguson. You want to put Dalton Kincaid and Kyle Pitts in there. I get it. You know, like there's, there's just a lot of mixing and matching that goes on with that group of, of of tight ends. Goddard can easily be a 10 point per game guy. And you now loaded up your roster everywhere else and you kind of just figured out as the season goes on, like, I don't, I don't hate that at all.

[Adam Azer]

Sure. And by the way, A.J. brown has a hamstring injury. I'm not sure if you mentioned that. Sorry. I was on the clock. That would obviously boost Dallas Goddard. Yeah, I was on the clock in, in round eight. And if you looking at the board, you're seeing a real lull in quarterback drafting.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right.

[Adam Azer]

In the last three two and a half rounds, we've had three quarterbacks go. Basically there's not very many left. There are no. But look, there's, there's not. There are actually. I mean there's Cam Ward, Matthew Stafford, Sam Darnold. Geno Smith, Aaron Rodgers, those are guys that you don't have to really worry about them losing their job. Then there's Russell Wilson and Joe Flacco and Daniel Jones.

[Heath Cummings]

But there's five Gino. I think Geno's the only one of those that I feel like, yeah, he's probably going to produce like a QB2. Sam Darnold, you worry that he was just a creation of Kevin o' Connell and the Seahawks are bad and they see what Jaylen Milro is. Matthew Stafford has a back injury. Who other guys.

[Adam Azer]

None of the Aaron Rodgers and Cam Ward. No, I don't. Would be not. I would not be comfortable with these guys as my QB2. But right now is a good time to take your QB3. Michael Penix just went.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So there's only one manager right now with one quarterback who RJ.

[Adam Azer]

RJ yeah, he might regret that. And his quarterback is JJ McCarthy. He's got. So he had the 11th pick. He's got Justin Jefferson, Jameer Gibbs, Jonathan Taylor, George kittle, Breeze Hall, J.J. mcCarthy, Calvin Ridley and Jordan Addison. Kind of tough to have that build when you. You're missing one of your starters for three weeks and he's. And he's Justin Jefferson's teammate. So Jefferson, Gibbs, Taylor, Kittle, Breeze, Hall, McCarthy, Jordan Addison. Who does Thomas. Does he.

[Heath Cummings]

It's a Vikings get a Vikings thing. Can we get a Gator on there?

[Adam Azer]

So that is he is going with a Viking stack there of McCarthy, Jefferson and Addison. That's interesting. All right, let's talk about round three. Round three was Derrick Henry, Dak Prescott, A.J. brown, Josh Jacobs, Drake London. Three straight quarterbacks, Kyler Murray to me. Jamie took London and Heath took Prescott in that round. Kyler Murray to me, Justin Fields, Drake May, Bucky Irving, Trey McBride to Dan Schneier who did not take a quarterback until round five when he took C.J. stroud and then he took Anthony Richardson as his QB2.

[Heath Cummings]

He needs to take Gino next if.

[Adam Azer]

He'S still there or does he take Daniel Jones? Yeah, but I don't think Gino's going to be there by the time he makes that pick, by the way, because I am picking before him. Okay, so sorry. So it was Henry Prescott, AJ Brown, Jacobs, London, Kyler Murray, Justin Fields, Drake May, Bucky Irving, Trey McBride, Jonathan Taylor, Lad McConkey. I mean Chase Brown was the first pick of round four. We go into round four, it's Chase Brown, George Kittle, T. Higgins. I love Super Flex. Just so fun. Jordan love Caleb Williams. So Jacob who Took Brock Purdy in round two, Took Jordan Love in round four. So actually like that's not a bad team, right? That CD Lamb. Even though we didn't love the Purdy pick. Lamb, Purdy, Bucky Irving and then Jordan Love. That's not a bad start.

[Heath Cummings]

You could have two top 12 quarterbacks.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. And then he has Omarion Hampton, Alvin Camara after that. Sorry, I'm on the clock. All right, so now I'm going to take my QB3. I had the seventh pick. Jamar Chase, Nico Collins, Kyler Murray, Kyron Williams, Tua Tonga by Loa, DK Metcalf, Isaiah Pacheco. Surprise, surprise. Joe Mixon. Surprise, surprise. So I've got no tight end. I only have three receivers. It's a three receiver league. Stafford or Geno? Stafford or Gino or Darnold? I'm going to take a chance on Stafford because I actually think he could be pretty good in this format. It's 6 point per passing touchdown league. So I went with stafford as my QB3.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So let me ask this because you made the commitment to Stafford, will you make the commitment to Garoppolo with one of your last picks?

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, I don't see why not. I don't see. I don't really know if anyone else is taking Garoppolo. So RJ might. Yeah, they might. Before I forget one thing that's worked out well for me. I don't know if you guys ever do this is drafting four quarterbacks with the intent of trading one because you wait for an injury or two at quarterback. There's nothing on waivers obviously, especially in a 12 team super flex. It's six point per passing touchdown. I'm sure I just said that. But you load up at quarterback and when there's an injury you can turn that quarterback into really good value. So someone that you would not have been able to get at the spot you picked that fourth quarterback.

[Heath Cummings]

I love that strategy in Dynasty Startups, which I shouldn't tell you since we'll be doing a Dynasty startup together starting next week.

[Adam Azer]

But Dynasty Super Flex startups.

[Heath Cummings]

Yes. Okay, but. And it, it can work in redraft too. I don't, I'm not quite as fond of it in redraft but. Because if the rest of your team like if you sacrifice a good starting lineup to do that. Maybe after the starter.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. After the starters. You know, after at least most of your starters. It's a, it's a risky thing to do. Let's see.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So.

[Adam Azer]

Some shade being thrown at me by Aaron Starr doesn't like any of my players after pick two. This could be my avoid list. That would be Kyler Murray. Sorry, I'm waiting for my team to display here. Sam Darnold's the next but Kyler Murray, Kyron Williams to a Metcalf Pacheco mix and Stafford. Yeah, I mean that's the thing that it might be more important for you to look at builds instead of players because you know you can always do the same build but with different players and just like a team more. It's totally fine. Jerk. All right, we gotta take a break here. But before I do that, real quick update on the FFT Open if you're in an FFT Open league, the draft dates are set. Should be other than Tom Fornelli's league which is already drafting Monday, August 18th starting at 10am Eastern. The timers are on from 10am 10am to 8pm Eastern with three hours between picks. Please check your draft settings in your league. If anything looks wrong, let me know in the league message board. Monday, August 18, 10am Eastern Timers are on from 10am to 8pm Eastern. Three hours in between picks. Turn them off on weekends as well. Also, if your name is Doug Hype, join your league. You're the last person to join the league. We're waiting for you buddy. Appreciate your donation Doug Hype. Get hyped. Join your league. I've emailed you many times. Please if you're listening, please please please join your league and the draft A thon show. Super fun. We have great guests coming on every year. We have a lot of fun with this. It's going to be Wednesday, August 27th from 5 to 8pm Eastern. Wednesday, August 27th from 5-8pm Eastern. That's our draft a thon show. No commercials, just content guests from around the industry. Fun times. We'll see you then. I will be right back. We'll talk more about the Superflex draft after this. Out here, it's not only the amazing views, but the way time stretches out.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

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[Adam Azer]

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[Adam Azer]

Whoa.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

When did I get here?

[Adam Azer]

What do you mean?

[Heath Cummings]

I swear it was just moments ago that I accepted a great offer from Carvana Online.

[Adam Azer]

I must have time traveled to the future.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It was just moments ago.

[Adam Azer]

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[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's the present. And just the convenience of Carvana. Sorry to blow your mind.

[Adam Azer]

It's all good.

[Heath Cummings]

Happens all the time.

[Adam Azer]

Sell your car the convenient way to Carvana. Pickup times may vary, and fees may apply. Welcome back, folks. All right, so is there anything you guys want to say? Because I've been a little overwhelmed today.

[Heath Cummings]

No, I've been thinking of something I wanted to say since last night.

[Adam Azer]

Okay.

[Heath Cummings]

I was really impressed with your game at the baseline.

[Adam Azer]

Thank you.

[Heath Cummings]

I think you're, like, 90% of the way there to playing with Dan if you both stay back at the baseline. The problem was in the first set, when he came to the net, he dominated you. And second, probably more importantly for you, because you can't change that about Dan. Your game at the net, like, you're. You're putting in a lot of work at the baseline. You need to go stand at the net and have your coach hit tennis balls at you for two hours a day. You gave up probably seven points in that match on easy putaways that you just flubbed.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, it was a difference in the match, in the second set, for sure. And it's the next step for me is developing a net game, which is just so much harder than it looks.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I wanted to say, did you go back and watch?

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, I did. I watched a little bit. I watched when Dan's brother was on. I watched when my brother was on. I'll watch a little bit more. I just wanted to say that I really thought you guys. You two were awesome. That couldn't have been an easy thing to do for an hour and a half. You know, I thought you guys did a great. Genuinely really did a great job. What I watched was really entertaining. My brother saying ESPN was very funny. I just.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You.

[Adam Azer]

You know, you guys. You and Thomas producing it. Claire Philippe for helping out, too. Great job. I think people really enjoyed it. The ones who watched, I think they enjoyed it. And I'm. I'm sorry, one more thing, and I.

[Heath Cummings]

Don'T know if you can confirm or deny this. There was kind of a controversy in the chat, and I saw a couple blips of it in the chat today. Also, there are some people who think that you maybe got robbed on a couple of calls on the line, that Dan may have called a couple balls out. Yeah. That were in. Especially when he was on the ropes.

[Adam Azer]

I saw that.

[Heath Cummings]

Really? On the ropes.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yep.

[Heath Cummings]

There were some thought that. So I just didn't know if you Want to make a comment on that? If you thought that. That all the calls were legitimate.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, genuinely, I believe Dan called everything correctly or at least did his very best to call everything correctly. There was only one, maybe two, but one shot. It was a lob in the first set I think I thought was in and he called out. Maybe it's in the second set, I don't know. But he would have a much better view of that than I would. He even said there was a mark. So I think I'll squash that. That theory. I think there's no nothing bad from Dan there.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Wow, look at the Giants fan taking Jackson dart.

[Adam Azer]

Who took Jackson dart?

[Heath Cummings]

I did.

[Adam Azer]

Oh, look at you. All right, as you look, I only.

[Heath Cummings]

Have two quarterbacks and neither one of them have a buy until week 10. And I'm a pretty big fan of Russell Wilson and think he's going to do well. But I have a hard time believing the Giants are going to have more than two wins by week 10. So it might be Jackson dart time.

[Adam Azer]

All right, so my. So how many quarterbacks. I talked about the whole four quarterback thing but how many quarterbacks do you want and when do you get your QB?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

3 I like so I'll take a shot on, you know, the dart type of quarterbacks. I don't want to give away who I may be looking at but you know, like taking a shot on someone who has the chance to start at some point during the season as a fourth guy. In the case of what Heath is doing because of how the board has worked out, I get it. Taking him as your third guy. Once I saw Pennix get drafted by Thomas I was like I'm gonna try and get my third quarterback here. If it would have been Cam Ward, I might have waited after that because the staffer Geno Darnold group like I'd rather get somebody with upside and I think obviously Ward has that so that's kind of where I played it, you know. So QB in round one, QB in round five, QB in round six, seven, eight, nine. You know, like that's kind of ideal if it could work out for you that way.

[Adam Azer]

Okay Heath, any thoughts on how you want to get your QB3. So for you it was Daniels round one, Prescott round three and Jackson Dart. Where are we round 10? 11.

[Heath Cummings]

It's heavily influenced 11 by who my first two quarterbacks are and when I take them I'm not like I did take two quarterbacks in the first three rounds in this pick. I've had super flex drafts where like Dan I didn't take one till round five or six. If I do that, then I might take three quarterbacks within four rounds. So if I don't like my starting quarterbacks, I'm going to take that third one much earlier. If I do like my starting quarterbacks, I could go without taking one. This seemed like a good opportunity to, to take, take Jackson dart and hope he's starting by week 10.

[Adam Azer]

Oh, just a brutal pick of Keon Coleman there by Jamie right in front of me. I feel like, I feel like this is a man. I need a wide receiver. I only have three in a three receiver league. They are good, Chase, Nico and Metcalf. But man, I think I'm going to go with, gonna go with. I'm gonna go with my man Dancing Rick. I'm gonna go with my man Christian Kirk who now I pair with Nico Collins which might be really stupid because I don't know that if Nico Collins gets hurt, I don't know that that Christian Kirk really has a huge jump in value. So I might have been better off taking Khalil Shakir there.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I have go from 12 to 13 points per year.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, maybe I struggle with Khalil Shakir. Like they maybe should have taken him there. You know, obviously if he weren't injured he'd be long gone. But I do like Kirk. All right. I don't think going round by round is necessarily the best way to do this here. We've talked a little bit.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean anybody wants to see the draft board, they can come find us on YouTube or they can read the.

[Adam Azer]

Story on cbswars.com yeah, YouTube.com fantasy football today. Just watch this play out. We've talked overall about strategy for Super Flex and I think the main takeaway is get those first five quarterbacks. Jamie and Heath are all about them going really early and then after that just see how the draft falls to you. Don't push it.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So just, just to go back to that because you said you would have taken Chase in the first five rounds, like which quarterbacks the cutoff first five picks.

[Adam Azer]

So I honestly in a three receiver PPR league, I think I'm going to take Jamar Chase. All right. The way this plays out, I think I'd stick with it where he is at sixth. I'm tempted to say I would take Jamar Chase first overall and then make my next two picks quarterbacks because if I did that, the way this one shaked out, I could have had Jamar Chase, Kyler Murray, Justin Fields or Kyler Murray Dak Prescott, Kyler Murray. Who else would I have taken there? Probably just those guys, but that's probably not the best way to go. I just love quarterback so much this year that, like, let's say I had gone Jamar Chase, Aman Ross, St. Brown, Derek Henry with the. With my first three picks, just looking at this draft board, and then I could have taken Trevor Lawrence and Justin Herbert. I'd go to war with that team.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's very good.

[Adam Azer]

I truly believe there's no wrong answer in Super Flex is my. That's my favorite thing about it. And I think the way you win is many different ways, but by. By getting like a steal at quarterback. By, you know, getting. Yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

I mean, if you. The other thing is, like, if you have Lamar Jackson last year and Baker Mayfield.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

Then you don't need the steel at quarterback and you can get by with just decent starting players.

[Adam Azer]

No, but. But Baker Mayfield, like, I made the finals last year because I got Baker Mayfield in, you know, and we think there are a lot of potential breakouts at the position. I just think it was interesting that five of the six teams that made it to the finals in the last three years of our Super Flex League, 12, which is the same exact format as this, 12 teams, three wide receivers, full PPR and a Flex and a Super flex, did not take. Five of the six, did not take a quarterback in round one. And they were mostly picking in the second half of the round.

[Heath Cummings]

And most of them went round two, Round three.

[Adam Azer]

Yes.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. So it certainly would be risky to not do that, to not take a quarter, at least one in round two or three. All right, what do you want to do? You want to talk about Jamie? Why don't you talk about your team here? Or Heath, you can go first. Heath, you had the second pick, so take us through your squad. 12 teams.

[Heath Cummings]

So, yeah, I started off with Jaden Daniels, Brock Bowers, Dak Prescott, then took. Man, I can. I'm not good at reading those names. So I need to find my team here. Kenneth Walker and then Devonte Adams. And Adams is my number one wide receiver, which isn't great, but Jamie's talked about how, you know, if Matthew Stafford and Devonte Adams are healthy all year, he might be a top 12 wide receiver. So that might work out okay. My two favorite values at their respective positions probably DeAndre Swift and Jerry Judy were my next two picks. And then at that point, something Jamie and I talked about on HQ yesterday, and this is kind of a non Super Flex strategy. Thing is, I would Much rather be drafting running backs for the next however many picks we have left than wide receivers. So I went with wide receiver heavy for the next three rounds and that two more of my favorite value. This is the most Heath team I maybe I've drafted all year. Cooper cup and Debo Samuel. Then I took Luther Burden just to have a little bit of youth and upside in that receiving core as well, followed by Jackson Dart. So I've got five wide receivers now. Devonte Adams, Jerry Judy, Cooper Cup, Debo Samuel, Luther Burden. I've probably in my view got two number twos and two number threes. And that could be okay if you have two top seven quarterbacks and you're good at the other positions.

[Adam Azer]

Jamie just made a great pick. Mark Andrews 140th overall. I mean, even if you take 20 quarterbacks off the board, Mark Andrews had 120th overall would probably be pretty good value. It was interesting to see the quarter the tight ends that went ahead of Mark Andrews. I took Tyler Warren ahead of him and even then I was like, should I have done that? I'm fine with it. But also just so many guys. Evan Ingram, Colson Loveland. Kyle Pitts went ahead of Mark Andrews.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

John is Tucker Kraft.

[Adam Azer]

Oh, John who? Smith. Yeah, I don't think that was a great pick.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Craft even is amazing value.

[Adam Azer]

Jake different Jake. Jake at team four. You shouldn't have taken Johnny Smith. He already had Kelsey. Plus we don't really like Johnny Smith now that he's on Pittsburgh. Go ahead, Heath.

[Heath Cummings]

I missed this, so it was probably something we should talk about and maybe you guys did and I just wasn't listening. Where did Rice and Judkins get down?

[Adam Azer]

What a miss on my Bryce went.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8th round. So bacon the super flex. That's probably around six. 8th round to Jake Groggins at the end. Grogan at the end of the round picking 12. So he went back to back with Jalen Waddle and Rashi Rice. So Rice went ahead of Jordan Addison, Ricky Pierasol, Joanne Jennings, Matthew golden, those.

[Adam Azer]

Group of receivers and Judkins went. That was what, Round eight. Judkins went round ten. He went with one pick after you. No, one pick before you in round ten. He. He went just before exactly where Jamie said just before Brian Robinson went. J.K. dobbins, Tyrone Tracy Quinshawn Judkins. Brian Robinson at that position.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Damn you, Heath.

[Adam Azer]

Who do you take?

[Heath Cummings]

Trey Benson.

[Adam Azer]

Trey Benson.

[Heath Cummings]

Okay, so like I said, this is the. The after pit. Round 10 is where I'd like to just be drafting back up running backs. I actually took one who might be a week one starter, Ramondre Stevenson at the end of round 12. And then Trey Benson to start round 13.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, so Jamie, you want to talk about your team picking fifth with Jalen Hurts in round one?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, I like it a lot. Hertz and then the three receivers in a row, Brian Thomas, Drake London, Jackson, Smith, Najigba, and if you don't like Thomas ahead of Pukinakua or Amara St. Brown, don't look at the player, look at the philosophy and the strategy. So you could take one of those top, you know, 10 receivers, eight receivers in that range. I just prefer Thomas at this point over Nakua and Saint Brown. Drake, London to me is great pick around three and then JSN, you know, those are three of my top 12 receivers. I've now put JSN at 12. Herbert I think is an easy QB2 to target, especially beginning around five. And then I waited on running back and to come away with Chuba Hubbard, James Connor, and then what I felt was a little bit of a steal on Tyrone Tracy. Thrilled with that trio, took Cam Ward as the third quarterback. Crystal Lave could be my flex. You know, we'll see. As a fourth receiver, have Keon Coleman as a fifth receiver and then waiting on Mark Andrews. So pretty happy with how this all worked out.

[Adam Azer]

Again, Jamie drafting from the fifth spot as Jalen Hurts in round one, Justin Herbert in round five. That's how he approached quarterback. He'll be starting Hertz, Herbert, Brian Thomas Jr Drake, London, JSN Whammy, Chuba Hubbard and James Connor, Chris Olave or Tyrone Tracy at flex and he has Cam ward as his QB3. Jaden Blue just went okay, that makes my decision a little bit easier. Here I have Javante Williams. I was thinking about locking up the Cowboys backfield, but that stress is off my plate. So I'm going to go with Tajie Spears, who I think has still a lot of appeal even with the ankle injury. We have just a few rounds left, two and a half rounds left. And I'll tell you about my team from the seventh spot where the first five quarterbacks. Six spot, six spot, first five quarterbacks were off the board and I took Jamar Chase and in the second round got to just a dead zone at quarterback. At that point there had been six, seven, eight, nine quarterbacks off the board and we went about eight picks without one being drafted. So Jamar Chase, Nico Collins, Kyler Murray, Kyron Williams, Tuatanga Bailoa, DK Metcalf, Isaiah Pacheco, Joe Mixon. Matthew Stafford is my QB. 3. Tyler Warren @ tight end. Christian Kirk, Javante Williams, Tajie Spears. You know, our builds are not that different, Jamie. Like, we both have three. Your receivers, I mean, your, your wide receivers. Three is better than mine. But like, you went quarterbacks in rounds one and five. I went quarterbacks in rounds three and five. You went running backs in rounds six and seven. I went four, seven and eight. I don't know, it's not that different. Like, I, I have Chase Brown. I'm sorry, I have Jamar, chase, Nico and D.K. metcalf. You have Brian Thomas, Jr. Drake, London and JSN. You have Hertz and Herbert. I have Kyler and Tua. And then my running backs because I have Kyron Williams. I have Kyron, Pacheco and Mixon. You have Hubbard, Connor and Tracy. I don't know. Pretty similar teams. I have Tyler, Warren, you, Andrews. Do you feel like kind of the same thing here?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, I mean, we, we took a little bit of a different approach but ended up with a similar, you know, build. I think the difference would be, is, you know, how much of an advantage does Chase and Nico and Metcalf give you over Thomas, London and jsn? Because in theory, Jalen Hurts should be better than Kyler, and I would take Herbert over to us. So I like my quarterbacks, and I actually have Ward ranked ahead of Stafford, so, you know, I like my quarterbacks better than yours. Tight end, I think is. Is obviously up for debate. I do like Warren better, but, you know, obviously we'll see how that plays out. But, you know, I.

[Adam Azer]

No, it's the fact that we're.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

We're back to back. I would, I like my build better than yours, my players better than yours, because the builds are the same.

[Adam Azer]

I mean, the difference, like your combination of quarterbacks and wide receivers is better than mine. The difference is.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I don't know about that receivers because you have two of my top four guys and Metcalf is not far from where JSN is.

[Adam Azer]

No, I like my receivers. I, I like my Chase, Nico, Metcalf better than your Brian Thomas, Jr. London, JSN. But you throw the quarterbacks in there. Hertz and Herbert for you, Kyler and Tua for me. I think your combination of receivers and quarterbacks is better. What I need to beat you is Kyle, is Kyron Williams as my RB one to be really good because I have Kyron, Pacheco and Mixon. You have Hubbard, Connor and Tracy, I.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Think it's more your. Your RB2 needs to be better if your belief in Pacheco and mixing comes to fruition. That's an amazing trio you have.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, I was happy with it. I mean, I don't think I reached for them. They were pretty much next up in the rankings for you guys or close to it. All right, so Heath's team is just completely different than ours.

[Heath Cummings]

I am. That's. That's really strange. That doesn't sound right.

[Adam Azer]

Well, it's a. More. I. I guess I would expect you to be more receiver heavy if most of the time, like earlier, you know, I wouldn't expect you to have receivers in rounds 5, 7, 8, 9, 10. But you pivoted.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

But.

[Adam Azer]

But you took your guys. You took Judy Cup, Debo and Burden in rounds seven through ten. Devonte Adams as your number one receiver in round five. Not nothing wrong with it. I just wonder. You didn't. You didn't set out to be kind of weaker at receiver, Just fell that way?

[Heath Cummings]

Well, yeah, I think I probably made that decision when I took Brock Powers because I knew if that came back to me, I was going to take him. And I would rather have Ken Walker than, like, if I had taken a wide receiver where I took Ken Walker, it would have been devonte Adams.

[Adam Azer]

Right. Right. All right. Any final thoughts, lessons learned?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No. Again, I. I think you're. You're really at an advantage if you have one of the first five or six overall picks.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. Kind of rhymed there, too.

[Heath Cummings]

I don't think I have any more tennis feedback for you. I've been trying to. To come up some, but I think I've given all of my coaching that.

[Adam Azer]

I can, guys, and I can't. I was. I could have won that match.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah. Go ahead.

[Adam Azer]

He was out of gas.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

The emotion that I think we were feeling watching it and your comeback and, you know, listen, Dan did a great job. I know you were focused on the time and, and kind of the. Where you were on the side of the court. Like, Dan did a better job than you did of coming over and talking to us and kind of giving his. His, His. His thoughts on what was happening. You could just tell he was gassed. He's saying it, but, like, he couldn't move as well. Like, the fact that he was able to summon what he did to get that point on his serve, because not only was he struggling, like, your brother made the comment, your legs are the first thing to go on your serve.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

When you're tired, your Serve is going to struggle because your legs are bad. And the fact that he got that point, I think was kind of nailing the coffin for you. And I know you said you could have won it. You still could have forced a tiebreaker. Like, had you broken him there. It was done. Done.

[Heath Cummings]

The real key is because I, like, I do not think you could have even reasonably competed in the first set. Dan said he was going to improve his cardio. If he does that, I don't really like your chances at all next year. But knowing what I know about now, being 46 years old, I think the chances are much greater that Dan's cardio is going to get worse than better in the next 12 months.

[Adam Azer]

Because.

[Heath Cummings]

And I say that just because when he was able to run to the net and get back to the lob, I don't think you really had much.

[Adam Azer]

No. So I disagree with you with your take here, because I think that, you know, you saw Dan get really tired and you blame it on his cardio, which I understand. But part of that was me. Part of that was I was hitting the ball a lot harder in the second set. And when you're playing someone who's hitting it harder, you exert more energy in getting it back. Also, if he's going to keep coming to the net all the time and I'm going to hit some successful lobs, that is going to wear him out. Like, his strength is coming to the net, but it also weakens him a little bit because it does make him tired. It's easier to just sit back and hit ground strokes. So it was partially me that was wearing. Wearing him out, too, because I had. Once I started playing better, we had longer games. The first, first set.

[Heath Cummings]

The games were so short for the first set.

[Adam Azer]

No, I don't agree with that. I think he. I think he got gassed early in the second set. When I started competing, he lost the first game of the set. And I. I mean, I take some credit for. For tiring him out. And also, again, if he's going to play so aggressively coming into net, it's gonna. It's gonna. Obviously, he's gonna need his legs for that.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I. I agree with that. I. I think there's. Part of. It was clearly the environment. You know, he was hot in the gym, in the, you know, tent. What do you call it?

[Heath Cummings]

Confirm or deny that you had them turn the heat up?

[Adam Azer]

Oh, I think it was only. Oh, did I miss a pick? I'm sorry. I think it was only. Next. Here we go. It was only like 80 something degrees in there. But if playing indoors like that is. Is. It's brutal. It's absolutely brutal. No, I didn't have them turn the heat up. So make my last pick. I. I was really disappointed in the first set. I mean, I'm so much. I can't believe how poorly I played. And I never felt like sometimes I play a match and I'm just like, I don't. I can't compete with this guy. I never felt like he was doing anything that I couldn't. That I couldn't compete with. You know, I just. My lobs were horrible. Horrible. And he was getting some easy points at the net. And my passing shots were bad, too. I don't know. I. I have so many emotions. We'll talk about on the Mailbag with Dan, but so many thoughts.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Tentative early.

[Adam Azer]

I was. And I don't know why, because I warmed up great. In fact, I warmed up so well. He was like, whoa, this is going to be a challenge, because I was hitting the ball a lot better than I did last year. Sorry. Who the hell should I take here? Let's just take Dalton Kincaid. Yeah, I look forward to talking about it with Dan. You guys have got to see what we had for dinner, especially what he had for dinner. I mean, last year he had a sandwich that was like a chicken parm with vodka sauce and a fried ravioli on garlic bread. This year, he went even fatter. Like, it was even less healthy or more unhealthy.

[Heath Cummings]

He burned a lot of calories.

[Adam Azer]

He earned it. He earned it. And wait. You are. Wait till you see what he ate. I tried to tweet it last night, but I was screwing it up. But we'll talk about it on the mailbag show.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Your brother was great.

[Adam Azer]

Thank you. I'm glad he loves you. He said he had. Yeah, yeah, we were very close. He said he had a lot of fun doing it. He said he loved. Love talking to you guys.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It was. It was fun. You know, I didn't, like, want to bring up too much, obviously, of his TV history not to make him uncomfortable. Not that he was ashamed talking about it by any stretch, but, like, I don't want to make that, like, a focal point. And I thought Dan's brother was great, too. Like, you know, he was. He was funny.

[Adam Azer]

He said something about 6060, and I was listening to it at the restaurant with Dan, and I was like, oh, screw you, Matt Schneier.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

The comments. I don't know how much you, like, were watching the playback in the comments. Like, oh, the cooler. Schneider's here.

[Adam Azer]

Oh, man. All right, guys, that's it for the Super Flex. If you. If.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, FFT Dynasty is coming up in about 25 minutes. I'll be announcing the entrance who won spots into the FFT Dynasty league that Adam and Jamie and I will be drafting next week.

[Adam Azer]

That great stuff. We raised a lot of money for that league. Congratulations, Heath. Starting this league, you raise, you helped raise a lot of money for St. Jude.

[Heath Cummings]

Thank you, supporters.

[Adam Azer]

All right, we're out of here. If you felt like you didn't get enough out of this episode, all you have to do is go to YouTube.com fantasy football today, watch the episode, see the draft board. Even if you just fast forward all the way to the end or something.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You also read it on the site.

[Adam Azer]

And read it on the site. Exactly when will that be published?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'm going to write it today. So whenever they put it up by the time the weekend, you could yell at Dan and ask.

[Adam Azer]

All right, take care, everybody. We'll talk to you on the mailbag. See you.

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