Start or Sit (AFC): Joe Flacco, Quinshon Judkins, Xavier Worthy, Start All Colts? (10/23 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Fantasy Football Today Podcast Summary

Episode: Start or Sit (AFC): Joe Flacco, Quinshon Judkins, Xavier Worthy, Start All Colts?
Date: October 23, 2025
Host & Analysts: Adam Aizer (host), Jamey Eisenberg, Heath Cummings
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This episode dives deep into start/sit decisions across all AFC home games for Week 8, with analysis, rankings debates, waiver wire recommendations, and the crew’s signature banter. Topics range from breaking down quarterback streamers, challenging running back matchups, wide receiver tiers, injury updates, and how to handle the toughest lineup choices involving players like Joe Flacco, Quinshon Judkins, Bo Nix, Xavier Worthy, and the entire Colts offense.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

AFC Home Game Previews & Start/Sit Debates

Dallas Cowboys at Denver Broncos

• Start Your Cowboys: No hesitation on Dallas players this week. Denver's defense, while statistically solid, has not faced many top offenses.
  • Heath (20:51): "We were a little worried about them against the Packers... and they just lit him up. Jackson Dart just lit this defense up."
• Bo Nix as Start of the Week: Jamey tags Bo Nix (Denver QB) as his go-to streamer, emphasizing his fantasy production at home (averaging 28.2 fantasy points per home game).
  • Jamey (04:27): “He averages 28.2 fantasy points at home... Didn’t look like he was going to get anything close to that last week. Then he goes for four touchdowns in the fourth quarter. He’s top five upside this week.”
• Running Backs: Javonte Williams must-start, but watch Denver’s lack of receiving work for backs.
• Wide Receivers & TE: Start CeeDee Lamb, George Pickens; Ferguson is a top TE play.

Chicago Bears at Baltimore Ravens

• Caution on Bears: Ravens are healthy and expected to return to dominant defensive form. Cautions especially on Caleb Williams, Roma Odunze, and Chicago pass catchers.
  • Heath (08:12): “The Ravens are back. Our preseason expectations for what this Ravens team was going to be are more important than what we saw for the last month when half the team was hurt.”
  • Jamey (21:36): “I'm still starting [Caleb Williams]… Still too much offense there, not enough defense on the other side.”
• **Start DeAndre Swift with lowered expectations; judge Bears WRs carefully depending on usage and injury updates.

Washington Commanders at Kansas City Chiefs (Monday Night)

• Mariota at QB: Very limited optimism, barely a streamer even in a depleted week.
  • Heath (49:12): "You've got enough of a concern with a backup quarterback starting against what we think is a good defense... that you don't want."
• Wide Receivers: If both McLaurin and Deebo Samuel play, they’re ranked 24–30 range; if one is out, the other is a borderline must-start.
• Chiefs WRs: Worthy remains startable unless he has another dud; R. Rice is locked in.
• Chiefs RBs: Pacheco is a borderline RB1/2; watch injury reports for Hunt/Smith. Jayden Daniels is out; expect Andy Dalton to start.

New York Jets at Cincinnati Bengals

• Joe Flacco: Top Streaming Option: Flacco is a recommended fill-in due to his passing volume, connection with Bengals WRs, and previous fantasy success.
  • Heath (06:04): "He has the second most drops in the NFL. Two of those years he was very good for fantasy purposes for his weapons and... himself. I think he’s a top 12 quarterback this week."
• Running Backs: Breece Hall is a top-10 play given the matchup. Chase Brown is a desperation flex; monitor injury status for Breece.
• **Tyrod Taylor, if starting, is a desperation play with limited ceiling due to surrounding talent.
• **TE Mason Taylor is a strong streamer, especially if Garrett Wilson is out.

Cleveland Browns at New England Patriots

• Tough Matchups All Around: Both defenses are must-starts, with limited enthusiasm for offensive skill players in either direction.
  • Heath (25:04): "You’re still starting Drake May, but I don’t expect a top five performance. Stefan Diggs is a high end WR2. Fannin if Njoku is out is a top 6 TE… Judkins is a high end RB2."
• Quinshon Judkins: Remains a top-15 RB but don’t expect pass-catching volume; more valuable in standard formats.
• **Patriots receiving options, aside from Diggs, are not recommended.

Tennessee Titans at Indianapolis Colts

• Start All Colts: Daniel Jones, Jonathan Taylor, Michael Pittman Jr., and Tyler Warren are all recommended plays. The matchup is strong, and the Titans defense is banged up.
  • Jamey (25:46): “...Start them all. Colts could do whatever they want to.”
• Sleepers: Josh Downs, if active, is a viable flex. Alec Pierce is a deep-league dart throw if Downs sits.
• Titans: Derrick Henry is a must-start, but monitor Jeffrey Simmons’ status for IND’s run game upside.

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Favorite & Avoids

Players Analysts Love

• Bo Nix (QB, DEN): “Start of the week.” — Jamey (04:27)
• Tyler Allgeier (RB, ATL, mentioned as a strong flex)
• Wandale Robinson, Romeo Doubs, Joe Flacco (Heath’s favorites for the week)

Players Analysts Avoiding

• Caleb Williams (QB, CHI): Sit if possible, especially in standard leagues.
• Romo Odunze (WR, CHI): Volume downside post-bye.
  • Heath (41:15): “Pass offense hasn’t been as focused on Odunze since the bye.”
  • Jamie (21:36): Still considers him a must-start depending on your waiver wire.
• Chicago’s passing game in general & Bears TEs
• Rhamondre Stevenson (more of a low-end RB2/flex this week)

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Injury Report & News (13:56–16:41)

• Lamar Jackson: Limited, expected to start.
• Jaden Daniels: Out, Andy Dalton expected to start.
• Brock Purdy, Aaron Jones, Tony Pollard, Tyler Allgeier: All limited/questionable.
• Wideouts: Chris Godwin out; Christian Watson says he’ll play; D.J. Moore, Garrett Wilson, McLaurin, Deebo Samuel—all missing practice but expected to play.
• Tight Ends: David Njoku limited; Dalton Kincaid limited; Darren Waller to IR.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Colts' upside:
  “Colts could do whatever they want to.”
  — Jamey (25:46)

• On the Ravens' defense rebounding:
  “The Ravens are back... Our preseason expectations... are more important than what we saw when half the team was hurt.”
  — Heath (08:12)

• On Joe Flacco's streaming appeal:
  “He has the second most drops in the NFL... He looked so comfortable with Jamar Chase, got the ball out in 2.2 seconds. He’s a top 12 quarterback this week.”
  — Heath (06:04)

• Debate over Odunze's target share:
  “First read target rate for Odunze has gone down a lot since the bye... they’re not throwing a lot right now.”
  — Adam (41:34)

• On players you can't get away from:
  “Most people are not going to be able to afford to sit Jalen Waddle—six teams on a bye. But... expectations need context.”
  — Adam (12:11)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Players to Love & Start (Bo Nix, Algier, Flacco, Wandale): 04:10–07:32
• Players to Avoid (Romo Odunze, Caleb Williams, Stevenson, Bears passing): 08:03–09:47
• Injury News Rundown: 13:56–16:41
• One-Question-Per-Game Quick Hits: 20:48–27:22
• Cowboys at Broncos Deep Dive: 28:23–36:03
• Ravens vs Bears Analysis, Debate: 37:09–44:43
• Commanders at Chiefs, WR/TE streamer talk: 48:51–56:44
• Jets at Bengals, Chase Brown vs Breece Hall, TE Rankings: 57:29–61:09
• Browns/Patriots, Judkins & Stevenson rankings, TE breakdown: 65:01–70:19
• Colts/Titans, Downs/Pittman/Pierce Flex, Sleeper Dart Throws: 71:14–74:46

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Additional Insights

• Streaming QBs/TES:
  • Joe Flacco and Bo Nix cited as prime streamers.
  • Mason Taylor (Jets) and Cade Otten (Bucs) as top TE streamers for the week.
• Waiver Considerations:
  • Alec Pierce for deeper leagues if Josh Downs is out.
  • Menangai (RB, BAL) as a stash due to increased role.
• DSTs to Try/Stash:
  • Broncos (good upcoming schedule), Colts (top-2 this week), Patriots/Browns both strong plays.
• Kickers/Defenses not discussed (skip for summary)

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Final Thoughts / Tone

The crew brings their usual blend of in-depth analytics, quick-witted banter, and actionable lineup advice. Injury situations and bye weeks make for tough decisions and the analysts are clear about differentiating between “must-starts” and “flex gambles.” There is also a running thread about expectations for big-name players in potentially tough matchups (Waddle, Odunze, Stevenson, etc.), with contextual focus on usage trends and matchup data to aid listeners' decisions.

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For Quick Reference:

• Top Streamers: Bo Nix, Joe Flacco, Cade Otten, Mason Taylor
• RBs to Prioritize: Breece Hall, Quinshon Judkins still in top tiers despite tough spots.
• DSTs to Target: Colts, Broncos, Patriots.
• Players to fade: Caleb Williams, Roma Odunze (if alternatives exist), Commanders’ skill players with Mariota at QB.

If you need more context for any game or player, scan the detailed timestamps above!

Transcript

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[Heath]

This is Fantasy Football TODAY from CBS Sports.

[Adam]

What a play.

[Jamie]

Can you believe this?

[Heath]

No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays on his feet. This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath.

[Adam]

Welcome to the show, everyone. It is Thursday Octo 23rd. And this is Fantasy Football Today presented by BetMGM. Make it legendary. We are talking AFC home games, six of them today. And they are Dallas at Denver. Can the Cowboys put up a big number on the road against this defense like the Giants did? Chicago at Baltimore, Washington at Kansas City on Monday night. The jets are at Cincinnati, Cleveland at New England, and Tennessee at Indianapolis. You know, let's see. What do we got? 13 games this week. How many NFC home games are there? Because I do have to borrow some of the AFC home games for tomorrow's show. How many NFC home games do you think there are?

[Jamie]

Seven.

[Heath]

Four.

[Adam]

There are four. Isn't that something? Congratulations, Heath. All right, let's get right into it. Let's talk about something.

[Jamie]

How do you screw up not doing who has More?

[Adam]

That's a good question. I'll try to throw it at who has More.

[Jamie]

If you, if you were to play a game of who has more? Right. Think about the, the. The title of that game, America's 32nd favorite game show.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

Who has More? Can a game titled who has more and then a tie.

[Heath]

I. I would think I. No, but if Azer is the host, like Kevin Garnett once said, anything is possible.

[Adam]

Yes, exactly. Hey, who has More? Who has more? 30 point fantasy fantasy games PPR, 6 point per passing touchdown. Jonathan Taylor or Dak Prescott?

[Heath]

Dak Prescott.

[Jamie]

Dak Prescott.

[Adam]

It's a tie. No, it's not. It's Jonathan Taylor. He has three and Dak has two. All right, let's talk about some players we love. Jamie, you love the guy who's going up against Dak Prescott, you love Bo Nix, Tyler Algier against Miami, and Kate Otten at New Orleans.

[Jamie]

Talk about those three also breaking your rules. Heath replied first and you're letting me go first. So it's just terrible job.

[Heath]

No, that's actually what he does. He loves it when I go third. And then he asked me for, like the most important one, as if you guys didn't already send it in.

[Adam]

Sorry, I have issues.

[Jamie]

Yes, I like Bonex. He's the start of the week excited about him taking on the Cowboys. My favorite thing about Bonex, I keep saying this every week and it keeps going up. So he's now played 11 games at home in his career and he averages 28.2 fantasy points at home in his career. It didn't look like he was going to get anything close to that number last week. And then he goes for four touchdowns in the fourth quarter to passing, two rushing in the comeback against the Giants. You remember that game, Adam? I don't know if you do. So seared into my brain. The Cowboys have allowed three quarterbacks to score at least 32.3 fantasy points. I mean, Knicks has top five upside this week. In the case of Algier, the Dolphins are obviously terrible against the run and we have not seen a duo go off against them, but I think we could have that this week. You got Michael Pennx a little bit banged up. We know they like to give Algier 10 to 16 carries at times. Three of his last five games he's been over 10 and a half PPR points. I think just given the fact of six teams on a buy, he can be a number two running back, let alone a flex. So, you know, don't be afraid to maybe play both Falcons running backs if you have them and you're stuck from a flex standpoint. But I like the setup for Tyler Algero, assuming he's healthy. And then in the case of Kate Otten, it's just no Mike Evans. He's been over 10 and a half PPR points for three straight games. Saw the spike in targets last week. It's a very favorable matchup for him this week. So for me, Taylor's a top five tight end in week number eight.

[Adam]

All right, Heath, three players you love. Joe Flacco against the Jets, Wandale Robinson at Philadelphia. Romeo Dobbs has been really good on Sunday night. Christian Watson says he's going to play this week. Talk about that. But let's start with Flacco, then Wandale, then Romeo.

[Heath]

Yeah, it's a revenge game for Joe Flacco, like 75 of his games are these days. But I'm just pretty much buying back in you guys. Everybody knows how excited I was about Joe Flacco starting games for the Browns, and that went terribly. But we've talked about it. He has the second most drops in the NFL. If you look at the last three years, two of those years he was very good for fantasy purposes, for his weapons and pretty good for himself compared to the other guy who had been there and looked so comfortable With Jamar Chase, he got the ball out in 2.2 seconds. Since he's joined the Bengals, it was 2.7. When he was on the Browns, his average time to pressure is 2.5 seconds. So getting the ball out quicker before he's getting pressured. He's got guys who can get open before he gets pressured. Now I think He's a top 12 quarterback this week. Wondale Robinson. Everybody knows it. Just a proven number one wide receiver. Had 20 fantasy points against this defense just two weeks ago. 15 fantasy points last week has averaged just over 13. When Darius Slayton's not been there and Jackson Dart's been the quarterback, I'm starting him as a borderline top 12 wide receiver. Romeo Dobbs is enough. Two wide receiver who has eight targets in each of his last three games start and the Steelers secondary can't cover anybody.

[Adam]

Wait a second. Windell top borderline top 12.

[Heath]

I don't think Jamie's that far behind me.

[Adam]

All right, look, he's playing well. Darius Slayton was limited yesterday, so maybe Darius Slayton will make a return.

[Heath]

What would that I will still have wondale top 24 if Slayton's back, but I won't have him quite as high.

[Adam]

Okay. Do you think Joe Flacco will throw more than you think he'll get to 40 because he's always at 40 past attempts.

[Jamie]

No.

[Adam]

No quarterback or no team has THROWN More than 32 passes against the jets yet.

[Jamie]

38.

[Adam]

Okay, let's go to players to avoid. You know what, Heath, I'm gonna let you choose. Would you like to go first or second here?

[Heath]

I want to go first.

[Jamie]

Okay.

[Heath]

Because I've got a proclamation. The Ravens are back. Like, I know we haven't seen it yet, but you see their injury reports yesterday. Almost everybody who's been hurt, a full practice, couple of guys limited. We expect them to play. I. I think that with our preseason expectations for what this Ravens team was going to be are more important right now than what we saw for the last month when half the team was hurt. And in the preseason, we all thought the Ravens were a top eight fantasy defense. A difficult matchup. Vegas this week says they're six and a half point favorites against the Bears. And the Bears have an implied total of 21 and a half. I do not want to play Caleb Williams. And as ridiculous as this sounds, I don't really want to start in a two wide receiver league. Roma Dunes. When before the buy, Roma Dunes had a 27 target share and had like eight and a half targets per game. In two games since the buy, that's fallen to 20%. He's got, I think five and four targets in two games. I don't think this is a good offensive game for the bears. I've got DeAndre Swift still ranked as a starter, but lower than I expected to. And I would like to avoid the passing game for the Bears. I'm also avoiding Ramon Andre Stevenson. That was A great game last week. It's the Browns don't.

[Adam]

Yeah. And he played Stevenson had a great game against the Titans, who already a bad run defense who lost their best defensive lineman, Jeffrey Simmons, who's now week to week. So it's going to be a real difficult job for them against Jonathan Taylor. But yeah, it was. It was just such a good matchup for Ramon Dream. All right, so we're going to talk about that Ravens Bears game and I mean, I feel I'm trying to. I have Caleb Williams in my lineup in one league and I'm going to go looking at the waiver wire there. But you know, Dunes A, like, you're definitely. You're going to take Wondale over Odunes A right?

[Jamie]

I am.

[Heath]

I'm gonna take Dobbs over a Dunze.

[Adam]

Okay. All right, Jamie, you're sitting a couple of commanders at the Chiefs on Monday night and Jalen Waddle is interesting actually. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.

[Jamie]

I mean, Jacori Crosby, you know, great game against the Chargers. And then the last two games have been a little frustrating. I think when you just look at Kansas City, they're, you know, seventh in terms of fewest fantasy points allowed to the position. They've done a great job recently against Travis etn, Jameer Gibbs, Ashton Genti. So don't really love the setup for crossing merit. I think he's gonna struggle in the case of Zach Ertz just to stick with the same team. You look at the two games that he played with Marcus Mariota, it was not great. And so now you're taking on a really good Chiefs defense that's great against tight ends and you have the potential of Debo Samuel and Terry McLaurin coming back. So I don't like the setup there for Ertz just based on what he did not do with. With Mario. He was 6.8 PPR points or less in both of those games, Week 3 and Week 4 when Mario was a starter. In the case of Jalen Waddle, it's really more of a concern about Tua as it is as much of the defense that he's facing. And they've been very good against opposing wide receivers in terms of the Falcons. And are we going to see Tua get benched? Because if he struggles again, I don't think Mike McDaniel can afford to leave him out there if they're going to continue to let him be the head coach. So just really concerned about it. It's. I understand, like Heath wanting to sit oh dunesday. I know most People are not going to do that no matter what we say or, you know, give analysis. Most people are not going to be able to afford to sit. Jalen Waller, 16, is on a buy. But and I don't think you look at what he did last week as really an indication of how it's going to be for him. You know, one catch for 15 yards because it was in terrible weather until it was as bad as we've seen him. But it's just not a really great setup for him right now. Taking on this secondary, which has been amazing. And AJ Terrell is probably going to see a lot of Jalen Waddle, and that's not going to be great for TUA and his production for what his receiver will get.

[Adam]

Yeah, we're going to talk about this game tomorrow, but Dave had sent me a great stat about Jalen Waddle, really about this Falcons defense. Six wide receivers who have lined up at least 70% out wide and had a route rate of 80% or higher. So, you know, outside wide receivers are playing most of the snaps. None of them scored even 12 PPR fantasy points. That includes Justin Jefferson, Tettero McMillan, Mike Evans, Kendrick Bourne, and that is Jalen Waddle. And Jalen Waddle's gonna gonna see a lot of AJ Terrell. Based on what I've seen, what we've seen from the Falcons defense, you know, wouldn't be surprised if he shadowed him. But it's tough to get away. Like we were talking about that, and he's like, what am I going to say? Sit Jalen Waddle this week. You know, it's tough to get away from these guys, but it's important to put the expectations in context.

[Jamie]

I think if you just look at the. The graphic that Thomas has on YouTube, his roster, his start percentage is 78. I mean, that's very low for where we are right now Thursday. And six teams on a buy. And what he has been true.

[Adam]

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[Heath]

Yep.

[Jamie]

Yeah I actually like that for the Bears offense, to be honest with you.

[Adam]

I. Yeah, I know. I see where you're coming from. Right. You don't want them to have a game where they don't have to throw. Jaden Daniels is out this week, but Bryce Young missed practice. Right now we're expecting Andy Dalton.

[Jamie]

Right. Although Bryce Young was at practice without a boot on, so I don't think. I don't know if he did anything. I just saw a photo of him out there. No boot.

[Adam]

Okay. Brock Purdy was limited, but we're ranking Mac Jones right now. He was limited last week too. Brock Purdy Michael Penix is day to day. Tyrod Taylor is questionable but apparently his knee injury is not serious enough to prevent him from playing and maybe even.

[Jamie]

Starting running back Penn said he's playing. Oh great.

[Adam]

Running back Hassan Haskins is out tonight. Aaron Jones is questionable. So just stay tuned. You know can follow us on Twitter. You can check out the rankings when we find out about Aaron Jones. Tony Pollard missed practice. I don't know what that was about. I don't know if that's been a regular thing for him, but something to keep an eye on. Tyler Alger was limited and Mike McDaniel says he wants to see Ali Gordon more involved in the run game. Big workload this year for Achan. Wide Receiver News Chris Godwin is out. Chris Godwin is week to week a Mecca Buka missed practice. If he played last week, we expect him to play this week. And Jaylen McMillan is getting better. I guess there's a chance McMillan could be back shortly after the week nine by so maybe he's someone that you want to pick up and stash. D.J. moore missed practice. Probably going to be fine. Garrett Wilson missed practice. Terry McLaurin and Debo Samuel. They didn't have a practice yet because they have the Monday night game, but they're expected to practice this week. We've heard that kind of stuff about McLaurin before. We'll see what happens with those guys. Jerry Judy missed practice. Ricky Piersoll missed practice. Pierce all is one way we'd be concerned about A.J. brown missed practice with a hamstring injury. We'll keep an eye on that. Darius Slayton was limited. No Christian Kirk, no Nico Collins yet. Josh Downs did practice. He's still in the concussion protocol. I'll talk about this later, but Alec Pierce has been talking about it right now. Three games, four games that Downs has missed over the last two seasons. He scored 14 or more fantasy points. Alec Pierce in three of those four games. He has six or more targets in three of those four games. Pittsburgh wide receiver Calvin Austin practiced in full. Chris Olave missed practice because he's expected to play. Josh Palmer missed practice. He's not expected to play for Buffalo. Christian Watson plans to play this week. Tight end news David Najoku was limited. That is kind of a big deal if you picked up Harold Fannin Jr. Najoku might play this week at New England. Cole Comet missed practice. Dalton Kincaid was limited. That was good to see. And Darren Waller is on iron for tonight's game. Minnesota left tackle Christian Darasaw is questionable and so are both starting offensive tackles for the Chargers. Jamie, does the availability of the offensive tackles in tonight's game, will that make a difference when you see the inactives for your rankings?

[Jamie]

No. I mean both these teams have been through this already this season. So I think you just operate as planned for what your guys are using.

[Heath]

I did see Ian Rappaport this morning said that Joe Alt says he's playing awesome. Which, yeah, fantastic.

[Adam]

That would be great. Giant center John Michael Schmidt's practice he missed last week and Philadelphia center Cam Juergens did not practice big. The big defensive news that we're looking at. Heath already talked about the Ravens. I don't know why Marlon Humphrey missed practice. I assume he'll play because he played two weeks ago. But they're getting very health, much healthier. Still missing Matabuque, which is a big deal. The Giants super beat up right now. So it's Javon Holland, their safety, Paulson Adibo their cornerback and edge rusher Brian Burns, who's probably been their best player this year. They all miss practice. We'll keep an eye on that there at Philadelphia. Buffalo is kind of beat up. They could be without safety Taylor Rapp and defensive tackle Daquan Jones. Tennessee is beat up. The Colts are beat up, but not enough. Where we don't love their dst and he's talked about loving Joe Flacco. Well, Sauce Gardner missed practice, although it looks like they're getting linebacker Quincy Williams back this week. Seems that way. We'll take a break. One question for each game. Starts and sits when we come back on FFT I have to tell you about this game changing product I use before a night out with drinks. It's called Pre Alcohol Zebiotics Pre Alcohol Probiotic Drink is the world's first genetically engineered probiotic. It was invented by PhD scientists to tackle rough mornings after drinking. Fall is here and that means it's time to enjoy cooler weather and some drinks out with friends. Whether you're enjoying a pint at a fall festival or a spooky cocktail at a Halloween party, don't forget to drink a Pre Alcohol before drinking. You'll be able to celebrate and still wake up feeling great the next day. Go to zebiotics.com FFT to learn more and get 15 off your first order when you use FFT at checkout. Zebiotics is backed with a hundred percent money back guarantee, so if you're unsatisfied for any reason, they'll refund your money, no questions asked. Remember to head to ZBiotics.com FFT and use the code FFT at checkout for 15% off business owners I'm going to give you a tool that will make a huge difference for you. It's called Quo formerly openphone. It's the same great business phone system I've talked about before, just with a new name. And here's why it matters. Every time you miss a call, you're leaving money on the table. You need a phone system that keeps up and helps you stay connected. So 247 and that's why you need quo. Over 90,000 businesses trust quo formerly open phone to streamline their customer communications. It works through an app on your phone or computer, so no more carrying two phones or using a landline. With Quo, your team can share one number and collaborate on customer calls and texts like a shared inbox. So anyone can jump in and keep response times fast and and forget voicemail. Quo's built in AI agent can be set up in minutes to handle calls after hours, answer questions and capture leads so you never miss a customer. Get started free plus get 20% off your first 6 months at quo.com FFT that's qU-U-O.com FFT and if you have existing numbers with another service, Quo will port them over at no extra charge. Quo no missed calls, no missed customers. Introducing Oakley Meta Vanguard the new performance AI glasses designed for athletes with hands free capture on an action ready ultra wide camera, powerful open ear speakers and built in Meta AI that syncs with your Garmin devices for real time insights while you train. Take your performance to the next level With Oakley Meta Vanguard Athletic Intelligence is here. Learn more on Meta.com all right, welcome back. One question for each game. Dallas at Denver. Are you nervous about starting your Cowboys, Heath?

[Heath]

Not this week, no.

[Adam]

How come?

[Heath]

Well, there's not enough good players to worry about starting your Cowboys. No, they, I mean, we, we were a little worried about them against the Packers. Right?

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Heath]

And they just lit him up and Jackson Dart just lit this defense up. I mean, I know Deck's not as good as Jackson Dart, but Dart was a little lucky. Well, that's factual.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Heath]

No, I don't. I, I think you have to start them all.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Adam]

I was going back over the last year and a half now, and you could argue that Denver has really not shut down any good quarterbacks. They've played such an easy schedule. Baker Mayfield's the only one I could find is like, oh, this guy had a great season and struggled against the Denver Broncos. Chicago at Baltimore. Well, we heard from Heath. Jamie, how about you? Starter? Said Caleb Williams.

[Jamie]

I'm still starting him. It's not as you know, I would typically be confident in him, especially if this Ravens defense had looked the way it looked prior to their bye week. But as I sort of alluded to, like, I, I kind of like the fact that Lamar Jackson's going to play because I expect them to put a lot of points up against Chicago's defense and we see Caleb Williams having to try and keep up with the score. So it's probably going to be an ugly, sloppy type of game for the Bears, but I still think there's too much offense on that side of the ball and still not enough defense on the other side of the ball. So even when they were healthy at the start of the season, we saw what Josh Allen did, for example, in week one. Not to say that Caleb Williams is that guy, but there's still the potential for him to be in that 20 point per game range. I still think Odunze is a must start, especially given the week. So I'm still starting the the trio of Bears that I would be starting anyway, which would be Caleb Williams, romo Dunes, and DeAndre Swift. And I really haven't changed my rankings as a result of it.

[Adam]

Wow, Heath, you know, looking at my waiver wire, I could start Jackson dart over Caleb Williams. What do you think?

[Jamie]

I would J.B. i would not.

[Adam]

Oh, come on. I have to make this decision for myself.

[Jamie]

All right.

[Adam]

Washington's at Kansas City. Heath, how are you approaching the commanders wide receivers with a lot of.

[Heath]

Well, we're not. We're not ranking them yet. So they haven't practiced, they haven't been playing. I think if you told me they were both playing with the way wide receiver is this week, they would both be ranked somewhere between 24 and 30.

[Adam]

Okay. If. Okay. All right, look.

[Heath]

And if one of them plays and the other one doesn't, then they're probably ranked somewhere between 18 and 24.

[Adam]

Are you worried about the matchup? The Chiefs have been pretty good against, but not great, but, but good against receivers.

[Jamie]

Right.

[Heath]

Well, I mean, and, and Debo's been pretty good for the year and is probably less susceptible to the matchup concerns because of the way that they use him and where he gets targeted on the field. But I, I still think like so much of starts and sits this week are just. There's not very many good players.

[Adam]

All right, so you want to, you know, trust. Trust your good players, I guess, when you can. Jets are at the Bengals. Jamie, do you like the running backs in this game? The. On paper it should be good. The Bengals allow the most fantasy points to running backs and the jets are good against the run. But you know, running backs, 16 or more carries against the jets in five games. 20 or more carries and three like for a single running back. You like the running backs in this game? Jets at Bengals.

[Jamie]

I like Breeze hall significantly better than Chase Brown just because of what the matchup is for him and how much work will probably get. I am a little concerned about the fact that he's dealing with this knee injury. So just keep that in mind. If you have an extra roster spot, pick up Isaiah Davis in case something happens as the week goes on. But it seems like he's going to be fine in the case of Chase Brown. Look, it's again six teams on a buy. I have him behind the guys that have a lot of upside that have been playing well lately versus the guys that are kind of desperation plays. So I would start Chase Brown over to Corey Crosky. Merit over Kamani, Vidal over.

[Adam]

You would start? You'd start. You said Chase Brown over Vidal?

[Jamie]

I would.

[Adam]

Okay. How about Rico Dowdle?

[Jamie]

I started my Rico Dow. Okay.

[Heath]

Yes.

[Adam]

Would you guys start Chase Brown over the Chargers wide receivers tonight?

[Jamie]

Non ppr. No. No.

[Adam]

Okay, what do we got? We got Cleveland at New England Heath. Is there anyone you feel great about in this game?

[Heath]

Great about? I think you're still starting Drake May, but I don't expect a top five performance. And Stefan Diggs is a high end wide receiver too. And Harold Fannin is a top six Tight end as long as Najoku's out. But if he's back, then neither one of them are Judkins. He's a high end RB2.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Adam]

I mean we might have two, two good defenses here and Drake may his bet. His toughest matchup this year was his only bad game. But you know, we'll see. He's obviously playing at an incredible level. Tennessee's at Indianapolis. Jamie, is this one of those old start them all cinemas?

[Jamie]

Yeah, really can be. I think so. You know, you look at Daniel Jones I think is a easy start this week. I think Jonathan Taylor's a must start this week every week. Michael Pittman must start this week every week.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

The Warren must start this week every week.

[Adam]

You know the issue with Daniel Jones though is like exactly what happened last time they played is just he won't need to do anything. Taylor goes crazy. He has a good game but not a good fantasy game.

[Jamie]

Right.

[Adam]

I mean that's got to be on your mind.

[Jamie]

I don't think he's going for 26 points. Plus. I think SportsLine hasn't projected for 27 but 20 plus, I mean he's been over that number every home game so far this season. Even in some blowouts. I just don't think you, you mentioned Tennessee is a mess. Simmons most likely out. Legerious need most likely out. Like we're looking at, you know, best cornerback as far as I know for the Titans and certainly their best defensive player overall.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

So while Taylor will get his numbers, I think Daniel Jones will also like this. So you, you mentioned Alec Pierce with Josh Downs. I still think he's going to take a few shots with Pierce regardless. Downs there, Down's not there. Tyler Warren will get his numbers. I think Pittman will get his numbers. He's the one I'll be the most concerned about if Downs is healthy from a high end perspective and still starting Michael Pittman.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

So it's just really feels like the Colts could do whatever they want to.

[Adam]

Yes.

[Heath]

And I, I think he can. Like I wouldn't be surprised if he has 25 pass attempts like he did last time he played them. And if he does, then he just has to have two touchdowns. But that was, I mean that was probably what kept him from 20 points last time is he only had one touchdown.

[Jamie]

Okay.

[Heath]

Between the rushing and the passing, Yobi gets two.

[Adam]

Daniel Jones, I'm asking in the chat. Daniel Jones or Bo Nicks.

[Jamie]

Nick's Nicks.

[Adam]

Daniel Jones or Joe Flacco.

[Heath]

Jones would be Flacco for me.

[Adam]

Daniel Jones or Caleb Williams?

[Heath]

Jones.

[Jamie]

Jones.

[Adam]

Daniel Jones or wait, did I say Drake? May.

[Jamie]

No.

[Adam]

Jones or May.

[Jamie]

May.

[Heath]

May.

[Adam]

Okay, someone's asking Herbert or Drake maybe. Okay, let's go to Dallas at Denver in one second. Just want to remind you Sunday our programming a little bit different. We had been doing the early shows because of the international games but they're taking a little bit of a hiatus. So we're at 11am until 1pm 11am to 1pm answering your questions. YouTube.com fantasy football today. Go there, tell your friends, come join us, ask some questions. We'll have some fun. All right. Dallas at Denver. Give us that of the game a little bit later when we talk about the Denver wide receivers. But so you know Jamie, since this is your start of the week, Bo Nicks, I already asked Heath, you know, what are you expecting from the Cowboys offense? Are we thinking shootout here?

[Jamie]

Feels like it. You know, I don't think as good as Denver's defense has been they are going to stop Dak Prescott and even Javante Williams who gets his revenge game. So I don't think the Cowboys are going to start stop the Broncos, you know, just based on what this defense has looked like especially against opposing passing game. So it feels like there's that potential for sure. I think the over under is appropriate.

[Heath]

This highest over under on the slate.

[Adam]

Yeah, it's, it's interesting. I mean you can't really stop this Cowboys offense and they can't stop anyone. So Dak Prescott, last I checked he was seventh for you. Jamie Heath, you had him 11th. Did you move him up 10th? 10th? All right, so talk about that because obviously he's been incredible. He has almost as many 30 point games as Jonathan Taylor in case you hadn't heard. But who are some guys start with you Jamie, that you'd start over Dak.

[Jamie]

Prescott, the other quarterback in this game. I mean you got to give Denver's defense some credit. Like they're you know, still one of the toughest opponents that they faced including the packers for Dak Prescott. Plus that game was at home for for Dallas. So I think just in the case of Dak, you lower the ceiling. But he's still a must start quarterback given the fact again six teams on a buy and what he's been able to accomplish. So we're now two games into CD land back and picking still going to make some plays. You know, Pickens is the most interesting one to me because if certain does shadow Lamb then he could go nuts. So I don't Know, if Denver is going to travel, you know, just keep certain on one side because of the dynamic ability of both of these. These guys. And Lamb will probably move more than Pickens will. So I think that may factor into. Let's put three guys on CD Lamb and one guy on. On Pickens and see if that works. So Ferguson's going to get his numbers. I. I think we see potential shootout. So, yes, that's still going to be good. I just don't think. Top three good.

[Adam]

Yeah. How about. What do you think about that with the wide receivers? Heath? Because Lamb plays in the slot about a third of his snaps, Pickens rarely plays in the slot and certain will occasionally travel into the slot to shadow somebody, but it's not really his thing or really anyone. Any cornerback's thing. Yeah. What do you think about the wide receivers? I never. Obviously you're starting Lamp. It's Pickens.

[Heath]

I'm. I'm starting Pickens too. I, I think. I mean, like Jamie said, we don't know where. How much Certain is going to travel, but I think as little as he goes into the slot, he's probably not going into the slot when George Pickens is outside. So my expectation is that both Lamb and Pickens are going to get opportunities without pet strand on them, and I'm starting both of them.

[Adam]

I just give you a little nerdy stat here. George Pickens has run 63 go routes. Okay. That's basically like running a straight line, and only K Sean Booty has run more. According to true media, the Denver Broncos have allowed only two catches on 10 targets on go routes this season. And almost all of those targets were against Riley Moss, by the way. So if they get Pickens up against Riley Moss, you can expect a deep ball, but he's done a pretty good job on them. That's just, you know, look, it doesn't mean George Pickens can't have a big play. It doesn't mean he can't run a different route and have a big play. But I thought that was kind of interesting. You have one of the. One of the highest go rate, go route rate guys against a team that's done very well against that particular play, that particular target. Jake Ferguson is a top two tight end in ppr, top five in non ppr. Start him not. This probably is the vulnerability, I would say, of the Broncos in the passing game, the. The run game. They're. They're beatable. So start Javante Williams. Of course, you know, what's weird about Williams is his receiving numbers. He had six catches for 33 yards against the giants. He has no more than 16 receiving yards in any game other than that. And seven catches for 11 yards and a touchdown on 14 targets in his last three games. Could just be some statistical noise there. All right. On the other side of the ball, how do you feel about J.K. dobbins? He is coming off two disappointing bad games. He scored 13 points combined. Heath in his last two games, J.K. dobbins, he has six or seven catches. I think seven catches on the season. Your thoughts on him against the Cowboys who are giving up the third most points to running backs?

[Heath]

I think he's a low end RB2 and full PPR and a higher must start and everything else. You don't expect much in the passing game.

[Jamie]

You.

[Heath]

The Dallas run defense has been up and way down and so I don't necessarily know which version we're getting but it's a high scoring game and his team's a favorite and. And they're at home. So you're starting him but not with top 12 hope.

[Adam]

How about a guy like Devonte Smith in PPR versus JK Dobbins? Who would you start?

[Jamie]

I'd start Dobbins though.

[Heath]

Man, I'd feel really fortunate this week if I got to choose between those guys and my flex. I would start Robbins.

[Jamie]

I would start Smith if A.J. brown's out. Yeah, right.

[Adam]

How about Chase Brown or J.K. dobbins?

[Jamie]

Dobbins for me.

[Heath]

Dobbins.

[Adam]

J.K. dobbins or you've seen the Cowboys by defense, right? Yeah, the thing. Yeah, but like last, he's had two good matchups in a row. I mean really more like last week and he had 14 carries for anyone. So the thing is he's really not been as good since Ben Powers went on ir. He hasn't. He's had one explosive run in the last two games. He had two.

[Jamie]

Lost his powers.

[Adam]

Yeah, Dobbins had two explosive runs in each of his first five games. Then they lost one of their best offensive linemen and he hasn't been quite as good. So he's a start. He's start. You want players in this game, but I was just comparing him some other guys.

[Jamie]

Okay.

[Adam]

Denver wide receivers Cortland Sutton is a layup. Troy Franklin or Marvin Mims? Before you answer, let me give you the stat of the game. If there's one way to maybe lean on these guys, maybe it's that Troy Franklin has run five routes from the five yard line or closer which leads the team. Marvin Mims has Run one. He does not sniff the field usually when they are near the goal line. Franklin or Mims as a. Desperate. As an option. This I wouldn't even say desperation as an option this week.

[Jamie]

Yes.

[Heath]

I've got Mims one spot higher. I have. I. I don't know that anybody has a lot of reason to feel confidence between the two of them. It's been back and forth. They're both around wide receiver 36.

[Jamie]

Agree. I like Franklin slightly better but it's flip a coin.

[Adam]

How about like Matthew golden or one of these guys?

[Heath]

I'd go golden.

[Jamie]

I would go golden also. Unless Watson's back. Then I might reevaluate that so we can. I can answer that for tomorrow.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Jamie]

All right.

[Adam]

And then Evan Ingram, starter sit. He has four straight games with six to eight targets. He's been solid. He's been fine. Starter set.

[Jamie]

I don't mind him this week but he's not a top 12 tight end just because there are very good options for this week. So I think if you start to compare him to some flex plays, he's. He's in the conversation. But I just don't love him compared to some other Titans. So I'd start Schultz over him. I would start around the Gaston over him. I would start fanning over him. I'd start Mason Taylor.

[Heath]

I would start all those guys over him. He's around tight end 18 like that. The he's been fine is maybe a bit of a stretch. His last three games his point per game average is okay but he has one game this season with double digit points.

[Adam]

Yeah. 9.2 or more fantasy points in three straight games. Okay. How do you. Obviously Jamie, I didn't think you said otten but you'd start out and over him.

[Jamie]

Yes.

[Adam]

How do you guys feel about the Broncos dst?

[Heath]

I'm not dropping them and I'm not going to carry two defenses with six teams on a buy. So I think you're just starting them.

[Jamie]

I want to say they have still very good schedule.

[Adam]

Let's check. That's go ahead.

[Jamie]

Which should factor into your decision depending on what you need this week. So after this it's Houston, which I think is a great matchup, then Las Vegas and then Kansas City. So if you want to give your league the opportunity to play the Broncos DST against that offensive line for the Texans and then Geno Smith if he's still starting by week 10, go ahead. I'm not doing that. So I would either just take your lumps this week or try and carry two DSTs if you can. So, like, I, I've done that in a couple leagues just because I don't want to drop the Broncos. So I, like, I pick the Falcons, I'll play them over the Broncos.

[Adam]

Okay. All right, here we go. Chicago at Baltimore. And yeah, I think you guys see this game a little bit differently. You're not that far apart in the rankings. Like, it's not like Jamie, you. You don't love Caleb Williams.

[Jamie]

You're just not. No, like I said, I, I don't think it's going to be an easy, easy game for him. This isn't the same Ravens defense as Heath alluded to. They're getting healthy, and look, he's struggled from a fantasy perspective lately. Run game has been great. You know, I thought that might have been where Heath was going, was that the run game was going to be, you know, maybe carrying them at this point with how well that they've done it with DeAndre Swift against Washington and then both guys last week against New Orleans. But I'm almost of the belief that the Ravens look like the Ravens offensively. And then Caleb is chasing the score, and so we get one of these 302 and 2 type of games for him or maybe use his legs a little bit. So I'm. I'm not out on Caleb. If we did have everybody healthy and available and, you know, not sixteens on a buy, he would probably be outside the top 12. But I still like him enough that he's got top 10 upside, I guess.

[Adam]

If you want me to give you a little bit of optimism about the Bears offense. When have the Ravens actually been healthy this year? Their injuries? I don't remember when. Matt. Matt bk, I think, got hurt in week two. He's not coming back. So the first three games of the year, their secondary was pretty healthy. And in those three games, Josh Allen scored 43 fantasy points. He did have two rushing touchdowns. But remember that game on Sunday night?

[Heath]

My memory of that game is that they were like, the Ravens defense was very good for three quarters. And then Josh Allen was superman for the fourth quarter.

[Adam]

Yeah, Joe Flacco had a terrible game. And then Jared Goff. This was an interesting game. Jared Goff only scored 14.7 fantasy points. He was 20 of 28 for 202 yards and a touchdown. He had a 103.6 passer rating. But they couldn't stop the run. Montgomery had a huge game in that, that game. So, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'm not. I don't know how good their defense is and not again not having Matabuque is not just bad against the run for them. It's probably hurts their past defense a little bit too. But it's not, it's, it's not the matchup. Like they gave up the second most fantasy points to quarterbacks. We don't look at the Ravens that way. That's the bottom line.

[Jamie]

Well, we'll find out.

[Adam]

Yeah. I mean they're not obviously not going to be as bad as they were against the Texans when C.J. stroud shredded them.

[Jamie]

Correct. Yeah.

[Heath]

Well and they were, they, they were pretty good against the Rams in the week before the buy, right?

[Jamie]

They were.

[Adam]

Yeah. I mean Stafford.

[Jamie]

Yeah. Again, Puka got hurt so early in.

[Adam]

That game and Flacco threw 26 passes.

[Jamie]

So that's the thing.

[Adam]

Like who did I say Flacco staffer through 26 passes that game. So yeah. How do you think why were you low on DeAndre Swift coming off two straight hundred yard games?

[Heath]

I just don't think this game's going to be as easy. And when I say low on him like he's a must start running back. He's a top 15 running back.

[Jamie]

Okay.

[Heath]

I at the beginning of the week I think I had him closer to 10th but so I'm still he's I'm not sitting DeAndre Swift, but I don't think this is going to be near as easy as the Commanders and the Saints have been.

[Adam]

Jamie, how do you feel about Swift and how do you feel about Manangai? 51 roster?

[Jamie]

He's a definite AD and again looking at the teams on a buy if the usage continues and let's just say that look we're hoping the Ravens run defense or the Ravens defense looks better again. How much of it is health? How much of it is missing still a key piece of it. How much of it is they're just not as good as we maybe thought they were going to be. So I think Mananga is in that low end flex range. So I would rather start Spears, I'd rather start Justice Hill, I'd rather start Prashad Smith. But I definitely want to roster Manangai just to see where where this goes, you know. So he's he's should be off waivers at this point.

[Adam]

Yeah, I said 51%. That was yesterday. He's now Manangai is now 64 rostered. Someone's asking would you start Deandre Swift or Rashad White?

[Jamie]

I have them back to back White one spot higher.

[Heath]

I am Pretty sure I have White hire as will.

[Adam]

Okay. Wide receiver. So Heath, where. Where do you have Romo Dunes.

[Heath]

I think he's 25.

[Adam]

And Jamie, you have him top 10.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Heath]

And I do think like this is for me it's not. And maybe it, maybe it's just a two game blip, but for me it's not just about the Ravens defense with the Dunes. They've. They just the pass offense since they came out of the buy hasn't been as focused on getting the ball to Odunze. They're throwing the Baltimore guys.

[Adam]

We talked about this on beyond the box score and Jacob said the first read target rate for Odunze has gone down a lot since. Since the buy. Could just be two games, we don't know. Or it could be intentional where they're trying to spread the ball around a little bit. I think the biggest thing is is they're not throwing a lot. I mean Caleb Williams, 29 and 26 pass attempts. They've got their run game going. So I think that's a big part of the. Are they going to be able to run the ball in the Ravens? Roquan Smith being back is a big deal. It should help them. But that's, you know, past volume's a big deal. I can't imagine anyone starting DJ Moore or Luther Burton. Yeah, okay.

[Heath]

If and in Fairness, like Caleb, two of the four games before the buy had 28 and 30 pass attempts. Yeah. He has two games all year with with more than 30 passes.

[Adam]

I know Dunze has one game all year with more than 69 yards. He's just scored a lot of touchdowns. Jamie, we haven't convinced you to drop him in the rankings, have we? No, I think, I think there's a shootout coming. I love that theory. Right? I mean that makes sense. They played the Commanders and the Saints the last two weeks. They played the Commanders in the rain. Didn't score a ton of points. The Saints obviously didn't score a ton of points. So let's go Ravens, let's get some points. If Cole Comet is out, where do you think you'd have Colson Loveland.

[Jamie]

In the teens?

[Heath]

Okay.

[Jamie]

All right.

[Adam]

Lamar Jackson's a must start if he plays.

[Heath]

Yep. Yeah, probably QB1 or QB2.

[Adam]

Well, you know, he's could have an.

[Jamie]

Injury, but he's three for me behind Mahomes and Josh Allen.

[Adam]

When we did the fantasy MVP discussion yesterday, he. I think he was the fantasy MVP his first three games. Like he was over 30 points every game. He was insane all Right. Derrick Henry, start or sit? Bears run defense been a lot better over the last two weeks against Crosky, Merritt and Camara. This does coincide with the return of TJ Edwards. Coincidence or not, but starter sit. Derek Henry.

[Jamie]

Jamie must start running back.

[Heath]

Must start running back.

[Adam]

Henry or Swift?

[Heath]

Henry.

[Jamie]

Wow.

[Adam]

Okay. Henry or Javante?

[Jamie]

Javante.

[Adam]

Did you say Javante?

[Jamie]

Heath? I did.

[Adam]

Okay, we're not going to start. Justice Hill. Zay Flowers. How are we feeling about Zay Flowers? Heath Mustard. All right. I mean, it's basically like the old Ravens. Let's go.

[Jamie]

I'll.

[Heath]

I'll update the static again for this week. 2.17 fantasy points per target. The Bears are allowing to wide receivers this year. Wow. Just an insane. And we talked about it last week with Chris Olave. Chris Olave goes out and scores two touchdowns. Start wide receivers against the Bears.

[Adam]

But it's interesting because, like, Jefferson wasn't really that good. I mean, he was fine. He scored a touchdown. Yeah, no, you're right. All right, Start him.

[Jamie]

He's only touched down of the season.

[Adam]

Yeah. It was week one, right. They even made Justin Jefferson starter, said Mark Andrews.

[Heath]

I. No, I don't. I don't want to start him, but he is one spot ahead of Evan Ingram for me.

[Adam]

Okay. This is a team that just gave up a touchdown to Zach Ertz two weeks ago and 79 yards to Juwan Johnson last week. Something to consider, I suppose.

[Jamie]

I don't think he's a bad play. It's just, again, there's so many other options out there that I feel like have a higher ceiling. So I shouldn't have just said no in terms of not starting Mark Andrews, but again, we have. It's just crazy. We have so many options at tight end.

[Adam]

Yeah. Oh, it's the. It's always the best. Every year it's the best position.

[Heath]

Right. I mean, like, really, how could you sit. How could you start Mark Andrews over Mason Taylor or Oronde Gadsden or Kate Otten or Zachary? And I have all those guys ahead of Andrews. I'm making fun of myself, too. Yeah. But we got all these great options.

[Adam]

And don't start Isaiah Likely. And don't start the DSTs in this game unless somehow Lamar Jackson does not play.

[Heath]

I. Oh, I think I'm starting the Ravens in one.

[Adam]

Okay. Okay. Would you start the Ravens or the Broncos?

[Jamie]

Broncos.

[Adam]

I shouldn't have discounted the Ravens quite like that. All right, we're going to take a break. I'm going to think about what I've done. And when we come back, we'll talk about Washington at Kansas City on Monday night. We'll be right back.

[Heath]

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[Jamie]

Good luck.

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[Jamie]

The did you, did you do this purposely back when you started to plan out the show that Keith would get the AFC home games because the Chiefs guy and Dave once upon a time was a Bears guy. So you get the NFC games?

[Adam]

No, definitely not. I if I had a guess of why I did AFC on Thursday and NFC on Friday. My guess?

[Jamie]

Alphabetical?

[Heath]

No.

[Adam]

Should I even bother with this detour? Does anyone care?

[Jamie]

Yeah, of course. Everybody likes show history stuff.

[Adam]

Whenever the Giants are involved in a show, those are the easiest games for me to preview. Like I don't feel like I have to do that much research. Like I just know the team really well. So that made that makes the third, the Friday show a little bit easier for me. And because there's a game on Thursday night, it does kind of eat into my Work window a little bit. So I probably put the Giants game on Friday and the nfc. That's just a guess.

[Heath]

I thought you just didn't want me to troll you during the Giants game.

[Jamie]

Added.

[Adam]

But we'll call that an added bonus.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Adam]

I hate when the Giants are added AFC team. They're like, oh, crap, I have to talk about this game with Eth. All right. Washington's in Kansas City, the Chiefs in Arrowhead. Man, they have. Look at who they face. They face the Eagles, Ravens, Lions and Raiders. The Eagles, Ravens and Lions scored 17 to 20 points. The Raiders scored zero points. I mean, this defense has been so good at home. How does that factor in, if at all, Heath, to the way you rank the commanders with Marcus Mariota this week?

[Heath]

Yeah, I don't. I don't factor it in too much. I think you've got enough of a concern with a backup quarterback starting against what we think is a good defense in a game where they're ten and a half point underdogs. Like all the other things point you in that direction that you don't want. I think, I think Vegas is taking that into account.

[Adam]

12 and a half point spread, right? Yeah. Because, like, Mariota is a guy who has routinely gotten you 20 points when he has played. Do we think he'll get to 20 this week?

[Heath]

Not quite. 18.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Heath]

And just for reference, it looks like the Chiefs are even more favor than they were before. I think the. The Commander's implied total is now 23 and a quarter. 17 and a half.

[Adam]

How much does that change of the. How much does this game change, Jamie? If McLaurin and Debo are playing this.

[Jamie]

Week, it'll certainly help the Commander's cause, but I don't think it's going to change very much. I mean, you're talking about a team that was struggling with their rookie of the year quarterback, you know, and, and not playing at a very high level offensively and now having to go into one of the toughest places to play in a primetime game. So it could be. It could be ugly, but it definitely is a plus if the top two receivers are there, and we haven't seen that since week one. So, you know, I would like to see what this looks like. I would like to see how Debo and McLaren are used together. I'd like to see it with Jane Daniels. We're not gonna get that, unfortunately. So you hope to see garbage time. You know, I, I think Keith's right. You know, 18 plus is. Is kind of where you're hoping for Mariota as opposed to 20 plus. So he'll probably get you 30 or 40 yards rushing with his legs. He'll probably, you know, find a way to two touchdowns. That's the hope, you know, so if he's not too turnover prone, I mean we've obviously seen Mario to melt down quite a bit in his career, which is why he's been a journeyman so for so many years. So yeah, I don't have a ton of faith, but again, six teams on a buy, he's one of the better options.

[Adam]

Can we really get away from Jacori Crosby Merit? I know it's not a good matchup. He's not catching anything. He scored, scored what, 11 points in his last two games, 10 points in his last two games combined. But yeah, like who, who could I start over him at running back?

[Heath]

I think a lot of people cannot get away from Bill, but I'd start by Del tonight over him. I'd start Chase Brown over him. I'd start in full ppr. I've actually got Woody Marks out of him.

[Jamie]

I have Marks and Tyler Algier ahead of him this week.

[Adam]

Oh, I was going to really Algeria. Wow. Okay. And then I mean if you look.

[Jamie]

At the five game stretch, game by game, Algier has been better. He has more better games than. Than crossing merit does in the last five games.

[Adam]

Wow. I will. We'll. We'll talk about the commander's wide receivers a little bit tomorrow too when we get their first practice report. But he thought already said earlier, you know, they'd both be in the top 24 discussion if they played and if only one of them played, that guy would be a must start this week. Right. I is that.

[Heath]

I think I said they'd both be wide receiver 24 to 30.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Heath]

And if one of them plays by himself, he's probably 18 to 24. And that's a little bit of a guess because we're not projecting or ranking them.

[Jamie]

I have more faith in Debo just because he's been playing and we'll probably get some carries. But I think Heath is, is right in the range. I probably would have Debo in the top 24 for sure and McLaurin probably in the top 30.

[Heath]

So I will say if like if ever there was a spot where the Chiefs were going to kind of lay an egg and we got a competitive game, this would be it. Like you had the Rashi Rice's back celebration last week and you beat the Raiders 310 and they are at the Bills next week. This is like the ultimate trap.

[Adam]

The trap game. Yeah.

[Jamie]

If it was on the road, I would agree with you.

[Adam]

So if. If those receivers don't play who. Which give me a commander's receiver that you gamble on.

[Jamie]

Art Monk, Chris Moore would be the de facto desperation play for me. And then Jalen Lane.

[Heath]

But I don't have like we're right now not projecting McLaurin or Debo. And I don't have any of the commanders wide receivers. My top 48.

[Jamie]

So the one thing that you do get is these are the guys that Mario has been throwing to the majority of the practice time, you know, so, yeah, he's been working with these guys quite a bit.

[Adam]

How does Zach Ertz compared to the streaming tight ends? Otten Schultz, Taylor, Fannon, Gadsden, Jamie.

[Jamie]

Behind all of them for me. So I know Ertz has played very well the last two weeks. Again, track record with Marioto so far, not great in the two games this season. And that was against Vegas. And I forget who they played in week four, maybe New Orleans. And then you have. The Chiefs are just great against tight ends. So it's a bad setup for me. I don't have him like, I still would start him over Andrews and Evan Ingram, for example, just because of how he's played. And again, if those guys. I might adjust that if. If both receivers are back for. For Washington. But you just look at what can. Like they erase tight ends.

[Adam]

Yeah. I mean, other than laporta.

[Heath]

Right.

[Adam]

And Earth's. Hey, Ertz has had five or more targets in four games, and he scored in every one of those games. So you want to have a little faith, I think.

[Heath]

Yeah, he's. I, I like I have him ahead of Taylor, but all the other streamers are out of them.

[Adam]

All right, let's go to the Chiefs. Start Mahomes. Would you start Isaiah Pacheco or Jacori Kraski, Merritt, Pacheco.

[Heath]

They are so close. I've got. I've got Bill one spot higher than Pacheco.

[Jamie]

We're gonna find out today about Cream Hunt.

[Adam]

Yeah, we'll find. I mean, I. He might not practice today, unfortunately. I think you gotta wait till the weekend to know.

[Jamie]

But.

[Adam]

Rashard Smith is in the Menangai group. Like you want to pick him up. You don't necessarily want to start him.

[Jamie]

I don't have a problem starting him this week based on what the last four games have been for him. So he's been three catches or more in every game over that span and 5.1 PPR points in every game over that span. So you have a the potential of Cream Hunt not playing or not playing his full allotment of snaps. Yeah be the blowout potential here which is what we saw last year. We had 14 carries. So they've already given you a blueprint of what's going to happen when they're up big. They're going to turn to Prashard Smith and then there's a floor of oh my God, I'm desperate. I'll take those five to seven points and they may help you.

[Heath]

I'm starting him in our 14 team podcast league that I thought was so great three weeks ago and then they everybody got hurt.

[Adam]

Kansas City wide receivers. So Washington's actually been pretty solid lately other than that big play to CD Lamb. However, they did lose their best pass rusher for the season. Dorrance Armstrong start obviously Rashid Rice Xavier Worthy. All right, how would Xavier Worthy compare to the Commander's wide receivers?

[Jamie]

I'd go Debo Worthy McLaren.

[Heath]

That's probably right. I've got Worthy at 25 right now.

[Adam]

I think Worthy's one bad game away from being a sit in, you know, going forward from being from being like top, you know, 30ish.

[Heath]

He's probably I I don't think you're going to sit him next week against the Bills because that game's probably going to have an over under a 54 and the Chiefs are actually going to have to throw more starters.

[Jamie]

Would not be surprised if this is the hey, Rice got his game last week. We're not going to forget about you Worthy and we're going to get a couple big plays and a couple carries as well. So it wouldn't shock me if he has a big play or two that saves his production. So like we're talking about him very similar to what we've been saying about George Pickens. Like the it's probably not sustainable but you'll get a good player attached to a great quarterback in an offense that's going to score a lot of points and so he'll probably be in that fringy range almost on a week to week basis.

[Adam]

Everybody eats Kelsey starter sit.

[Jamie]

He's behind the streamers for me and ahead of Earth's Andrews that range. So like I know it sounds weird but I would start Mason Taylor over him this week.

[Heath]

I would start the streamers over him except for Mason Taylor and I would start Kelsey over Earth.

[Adam]

Okay, jets are at the bang. Oh Chiefs DST is top three. They've been mostly good in good matchups.

[Jamie]

And I will say, just in regards to Kelsey, I don't know if you're dropping him for those guys. I probably would not do that.

[Adam]

Okay. Maybe he's. Look, he's okay. Kansas City DFC start. Jets are at the Bengals. Updated stat of the game. The Bengals now have allowed 16.7 or more PPR fantasy points to a running back in every game and 11 and a half or more PPR fantasy points. The multiple running backs in the same game three times. I don't think that's going to happen here. But this is a great matchup for Breeze Hall. He's coming off two bad games, but Jamie, Breeze hall is a must start.

[Jamie]

He's top 10 running back for me, so. Okay. I'm hopeful. It's. It's been, you know, very difficult to watch. Still looking for his first touchdown. The work in the passing game has not been there like we saw at least in the first game of the season or second game of season, whichever one that was. So it's. You're almost waiting for him to get traded at this point to maximize his. His fantasy potential. But this is just one of those weeks, you know? I mean, again, I like Jalen Warren. Last week, he was the start of the week. He had 19 PPR points without a touchdown. So there's. There's huge upside here for, for Breeze hall this week.

[Adam]

All right, look, if Garrett Wilson plays, obviously he's a. He's a must start. If he doesn't. You guys are not expecting Garrett Wilson at this point, right?

[Jamie]

No. They have their buy next week.

[Adam]

It'd be surprised if he does play. Are you going to drop Mason Taylor?

[Jamie]

Slightly. But it's such a great matchup. I mean, again, incredible. Number one to opposing tight ends. Nine touchdowns to the position. Seven of those have come in the last three weeks. They just gave up four touchdowns to tight ends to the Steelers last week. Like, this is a huge opportunity for Mason Taylor and I think it helps him if. If to Rod's the starter because he'll probably play a little bit more on schedule and get the ball to him in some spots where he can make some plays. So I wouldn't drop him too much if I'm going to drop him at all.

[Adam]

How. Okay, so just.

[Jamie]

And to be fair, Taylor's best games have come with Wilson on field.

[Adam]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think to Rod Taylor and Garrett Wilson are out there and this is a competitive game, you know, probably a good game. The jets have actually been pretty competitive each of the last two weeks when.

[Jamie]

They'Re playing very well.

[Adam]

Yeah, they've been horrible offensively, and I know that it's.

[Heath]

It's poo poo Justin Fields week, and I understand why. But to. Rod Taylor has not been even kind of good as a passer this year. Like, he's averaging five and a half yards per attempt. I think he's gonna upgrade three interceptions on 69 passes. Like, I don't think he's really that much of a boost for the passing game. All right.

[Adam]

But that's.

[Jamie]

I totally agree with you in terms of who's throwing the ball better when you're just looking at how they're doing it. But I think in case of keeping the offense on schedule. Yeah. Like, that is probably a benefit to Taylor just based on being a veteran and, you know, trying to get those guys a little bit more involved. He's come in. In some bad spots, too, where he's had to throw from behind and not been great.

[Heath]

I think every spot playing quarterback for the jets right now is bad.

[Jamie]

So it will be interesting to see because, you know, I was stupid enough to fall for Justin Fields last week thinking that he would run and have a little bit more success if he starts this week. There's so much upside.

[Adam]

Yeah, enormous. But I don't know. See, the thing is, I don't know about that. With Garrett Wilson out, I guess their roster is so bad, I don't think he can compensate it.

[Jamie]

I agree.

[Adam]

We're talking about passing and all that. It's not. It's. Honestly, the passing is one thing. It's the sacks. The sacks that he's taken are insane.

[Heath]

He. Yeah, he has. He has a 14 sack rate, which is insanely bad. Gerard Taylor has an 11 sack rate, which is insanely bad.

[Adam]

Yeah, that's bad. All right, so Bree hall must start. You know, the jets quarterback. Would you start Mariota or Tyrod Taylor? Mariota or a Jets quarterback?

[Jamie]

I'm gonna fall for Fields again if. Just if Garrett Wilson plays.

[Adam]

Well, if Wilson plays, yeah. But if he doesn't play.

[Jamie]

No. Then I would start Mario.

[Heath]

Yep.

[Adam]

Okay. Mason Taylor. How do you rank Mason Taylor with. Okay. Mason Taylor or Otten Schultz?

[Jamie]

Schultz, assuming that Nico is out.

[Adam]

Mason Taylor or Fanon.

[Heath]

Fanon, assuming the Joker's it.

[Jamie]

And if the Joker plays, Taylor, probably Taylor.

[Adam]

Got a question in the chat. Mason Taylor or Hunter Henry?

[Heath]

Taylor.

[Jamie]

This is going to be the test. Is it just a home road thing for Henry? 10 plus PPR points in every home game so far this year. 7 or less in every road game. This year. And for what it's worth, the Browns are good against number one tight ends. As he brought up a few weeks ago.

[Adam]

Joe Flacco is 13th for Jamie Austin Hooper, week 10th. Yeah, it was last week. Yeah, Joe Flacco, 13th for Jamie, 10th for Heath and 11th for Dave. So he's a borderline starter. Jets are 21st against quarterbacks. They've been better. They've really only had two bad games against quarterbacks. Aaron Rodgers, week one, Dak Prescott, three weeks ago. We talked a lot about Chase Brown already. He's startable, you know, I guess don't be too surprised by last week's game. It was an enigma for him. But you know, the jets, by the way, are very good against pass catching running backs. They allow the third fewest receiving yards per game. So he may not get that. Like he may not have like. Devon HN had two receiving yards, Javante Williams had four, RJ Harvey 21, Chuba Hubbard 24. May not be a big receiving game for him.

[Heath]

And the funny thing is like. So Chase Brown averaged almost 10 yards per carry last week, right? Yeah, he scored 12 fantasy points.

[Adam]

Yeah, right. Jamie, we were starting Chase. What about Higgins?

[Jamie]

Yeah, right back to him. I mean, 18 targets in the two starts with Flacco and huge game last week could have been been better if he scored the touchdown as opposed to sliding at inside the five and killing the clock. So with how Flacco's operating, you already mentioned no Sauce Gardener. We know what the number two receiver has done opposite Sauce Gardner. Look at Xavier Leguette for example, last week. So there's so much potential for Higgins in this game with Gardner, without Gardner. So to me, he's a top 15 wide receiver this week. It's almost as if what Joe Flacco looks like is what we expected for Joe Burrow being there. And again, it's not maybe the same heights, but same amount of volume. Receivers are going to make plays because the. The passes will be catchable and offense will operate on schedule. Really the biggest thing from last week for me was the offensive line looked as good as it's looked all season and maybe the last two years. So will that continue? I. I would hope. You know, I think they found the right formula. So yeah, Higgins to me is an Easter. I just wanted to say that, you know, you mentioned the streaming tenants you didn't bring up around the Gatson. Is he, Is he not streaming anymore?

[Adam]

Sorry about that. I was thinking of the Sunday slate, I guess. Gadsden. Gadsden or Taylor Guess.

[Heath]

Guess.

[Adam]

Question in the chat. Gadsden or Otten.

[Jamie]

For me, but that's. Well, I guess we already know that Godwin's out.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Okay. Question from the chat. Higgins or Olave?

[Heath]

Olave for me.

[Jamie]

I would love to start both, but I would go lobby as well.

[Adam]

Quinch on Judkins or Breeze Hall?

[Heath]

It's Breeze hall in full ppr.

[Adam]

Quinton. Judkins or Chase Brown?

[Heath]

Judges?

[Jamie]

Judkins.

[Adam]

All right, I think that's it for this. Looking at some more here. Barkley. Judkins or Chase Brown?

[Jamie]

Barkley.

[Heath]

Barkley.

[Adam]

Okay. All right. I think that'll Bo Nix or Joe Flacco. It's gotta be Bonix. Bonix start bonus. All right, that's it for that game. What's next? We've got. Oh, Noah fan. No, we're not going.

[Jamie]

Oh, I. I hope I'm. I'm playing you in one league, Adam. I hope it's. I have Barkley. I hope he goes off against your team.

[Adam]

Is that the FFT league?

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Adam]

No. Where you drafted Pacheco just to spite me. Nice work there.

[Jamie]

I think I'm starting this week.

[Adam]

Oh, that's a killer. No, let me check.

[Jamie]

I think. I think I have to because I lost Hampton and I've been starting, unfortunately.

[Adam]

Brutal. All right. Cleveland at New England. Stat of the game.

[Jamie]

Cleveland, come down to Monday night. Like, you're ahead by like four. Yeah, that goes on the goal line.

[Heath]

That's the final. Yes. That's the perfect.

[Jamie]

On one play.

[Adam]

Oh, man.

[Jamie]

And then Adam's just tilting. I'm tilting just. And he finally.

[Adam]

No, I'm up by six and he's at the goal line. They run one of those plays where they fake the handoff and the running back goes out into the flat. That works every time. Every time. It's the most effective play in the world. They throw him a touchdown and he scored seven. All right, I am starting Pacheco.

[Jamie]

Let's go. Great.

[Adam]

Cleveland has held Joe Burrow, Jordan Love, Jared Goff and Tua Tongue OF ILOA to 16.7 or fewer fantasy points in six point per passing touchdown leagues. They were bad against Lamar Jackson. Aaron Rodgers scored 21 and a half. But this is probably the toughest matchup for Drake May. Who are some guys you'd start over? Drake, May, Heath.

[Heath]

I don't know if there's anybody that. I mean. Justin Herbert, Bo Nix, Baker Mayfield.

[Jamie]

I go back and forth with Daniel Jones. I would start Jones over him this week.

[Heath]

I've got May higher, but yeah, he's in that range.

[Adam]

I mean, Baker is interesting because Baker stunk last week. Obviously he's got depleted situation here. So.

[Jamie]

Have you seen the Saints play defense?

[Heath]

He's had a depleted situation for most of the year.

[Adam]

Yeah, I mean, I guess so. All right, sit Dylan Gabriel, start quinch on Judkins. He's top 15. He's not. Look, there's a little bit of risk. The Patriots have a great run defense and he doesn't catch passes. It's hard to get away from him, though. As I said on Monday, you know, the difference between him and J.K. dobbins, the difference between Judkins and Jakori, Crosby, Merritt is that Judkins gets 20ish carries. They just run the ball a lot more. Hopefully they can stay in this game and do that. Breeze Hall. Oh, I already asked you that. Bruce Haller, Jenkins. How about. Let me give you wide receiver. How about T. Higgins or Judkins?

[Jamie]

Higgins.

[Heath]

I'd probably go Judkins.

[Adam]

Yeah, because you could see, I mean, the Patriots have held Ashton Genti, Chuba Hubbard, Alvin Camara and James Cook to 12 or fewer PPR fantasy points with James Cook. Like James Cook said, 15 carries for 49 yards and no catches. A game like that's not out of the question. I'm not trying to make you sit, Judkins, but just trying to just.

[Jamie]

This is a lot more judging is going to win you your week.

[Adam]

There you go. There you go. All right. Would you start a Cleveland wide receiver? Jerry Judy missing practice yesterday. Okay, great.

[Jamie]

Josh Gordon.

[Adam]

Give me your breakdown. Heath, you have to talk about the Browns tight ends. It's your birthright. Give me a breakdown of how you'd approach them with and without a Joker.

[Heath]

Harold Fan and his must start if Najoku is not playing. It was a disappointing game last week, but they threw 18 passes and he had a 27 target share. They're gonna throw a lot more than 18 passes in this game. If Najoku's back, I'm gonna start fanning over Najoku, but they'll be right around that Zach. Probably both of them right around that Zach Ertz. Mark Andrews range. So behind Otten, behind Gadsden, behind Schultz. But somebody you might still have to start because at this point you've probably missed the streaming Titans.

[Adam]

Okay, so Ramandre Stevenson is not someone we're super thrilled about this week, but again, you know, he's a starting running back. Stevenson or Chase Brown?

[Jamie]

Brown. Chase Brown.

[Adam]

Looking for chat questions here, if anybody has them for this game. Stevenson or Stefan, you go. Diggs.

[Heath]

Right, Diggs. Yep, yep.

[Adam]

About Diggs or Judkins?

[Jamie]

Judgins.

[Heath]

Yeah, probably.

[Jamie]

Okay.

[Adam]

Keisha Booty interested?

[Heath]

No, I've got a bad joke. I'm not gonna make it. He's. He's a wide receiver.

[Adam]

4 Keisha Booty has run by far the most. I don't know if I said this when I talked about Pickens, but Pickens has run the second most go routes in the NFL. Keisha Booty's run like 20 more than him. That's just basically all he does. So he is Boomer bust. He could definitely catch a touchdown deep one like he did last week.

[Heath]

It's just whether.

[Jamie]

Whether.

[Heath]

I mean in teams have had a really hard time I think getting those deep passes against the Browns because can you keep Miles Garrett away long enough?

[Adam]

Miles Garrett against Will Campbell. That's going to be fun. And then Hunter Henry, I think we have to approach him as a sit. One thing that's underrated that's happened with the Patriots is that they are barely throwing. Drake May has thrown a lot in their two losses and he barely throws in their five wins. So it's just hurting. Everyone except Digs seems to get most well.

[Heath]

And part of it is like he's had so much success on the few downfield throws that he's had that I think that's lowered their plays on offense.

[Adam]

He's had. Oh, oh, oh.

[Heath]

When you throw 40 yard touchdowns, you don't run near as many plays or throw near as many passes and he's had a few of those.

[Adam]

All right, I got some questions about this game here. Hunter Henry or Arande Gadsden?

[Heath]

Gadston.

[Jamie]

Gatson.

[Adam]

Keisha Booty? Mason Taylor or Harold Fannin?

[Heath]

Fannin Fanon. As long as the joke is out.

[Adam]

And if njoku plays, we go Taylor.

[Jamie]

Yes, probably.

[Adam]

Should I drop Travion Henderson for Tyler Algier?

[Jamie]

If you need a player for this week to start, I would. They both have at this point. You got to consider them handcuffs. And the higher end handcuff at this point would be Algiers. So it's probably the right move to make.

[Heath]

I. I would. I only add one more qualifier to Jamie's. If you need a player to start this week and you have less than six wins. If I have a really good team, I don't really want to drop Henderson.

[Adam]

Dak or May?

[Jamie]

Dak.

[Heath]

I've got May. I think one spot higher right now.

[Adam]

Diggs or Swift? Swift and May or Baker? Browns or Patriots? Dst.

[Jamie]

Patriots.

[Heath]

Patriots.

[Jamie]

They're Both starts.

[Adam]

Tennessee is at Indianapolis, out of the game. No.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Adam]

No quarterback has scored more than 21.3 fantasy points on passing totals alone against Tennessee. And Daniel Jones hasn't really been running that much. So over under 21.3 fantasy points for Daniel Jones.

[Jamie]

That's a great number. I'm gonna say under, but at 21.

[Heath]

I have him projected for 20.4.

[Adam]

All right, so those are the expectations for Daniel Jones. I will say good, encouraging stuff for Cam Ward, not necessarily for him, but for his pass catchers. He has thrown 34 or more passes. Cam Ward we're talking about here for 222 to 265 yards in three straight games. And that is an environment where someone could be good. And the Colts, they have. They are the highest scoring team in football and they give up the most fantasy points to wide receivers. So do we have any sleepers in this game that we actually like?

[Jamie]

Jamie? No. But desperation plays, I mean, I think you just look at the two rookies and try and figure out which is going to be the better of the two. So DK last week had the big touchdown on the opening drive. Didn't really do much otherwise. Hasn't really done much for the season. IO Manor has disappeared since essentially week three or four when he scored his last touchdown. So it's just such a coin flip at this point. I. I think they. Their. Their first drive last week. They. They scripted it very well. I didn't like there was a. Ward came out and hit two passes and then they did some stupid end around. It was just. Just didn't make any sense. Like you get your quarterback in rhythm, let him go. But it's just so hard to trust, you know, I mean, they're, they're going on the road. The last time Ward faced Emmy threw a pick six in the first quarter. Like this is not the best situation for anything. I. I think you said it perfectly. Start them all. C them all.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Heath]

And it might be that one of the Titans, two tight ends has the success. The Arande Gadsden game did come against.

[Adam]

This defense and Tony Pollard. Tony Pollard or Ramandre Stevenson?

[Heath]

Pollard. For me.

[Jamie]

I would go. Woody Marks.

[Adam]

Yeah, it's fair.

[Jamie]

I. Yeah, probably Stevenson.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Jamie]

I do like that power at six catches last night. And he did score one of his two touchdowns against the Colts.

[Adam]

All right, we've spoken enough about Daniel Jones. We're going to start Jonathan Taylor. We're going to start Tyler Warren. But this is actually a tough matchup. Tennessee has been very good against tight ends.

[Jamie]

I would.

[Adam]

I just wonder if their defense will be good against anything without Jeffrey Simmons. Talk to me about the Colts wide receivers. So, yeah, he's just give me the lay of the land. I'm. I think Downs will probably play based on the fact that he was limited in practice and he's about 50 rostered. But your thoughts here?

[Heath]

Yeah, I think if you're desperate for a wide receiver, Downs is the most likely guy to still be out there on the. On the waiver wire. That might be a top 36 guy. I'd probably have him right in the Marvin Mims, Troy Franklin range if he plays. Pittman is a must start. And I don't really believe the Alec Pierce thing. I don't want to trust him in a game where they're going to throw 25 passes. But if Downs is out, Pierce is someone you could put in the flex.

[Adam]

I don't really believe it that much either. It's not like his role changes. It's not like he goes as being a more short area, reliable guy. He just gets more targets. But Pierce is like case on booty, you know, it's just everything is downfield and Pittman is like a half must start this week.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Top 20.

[Adam]

Pittman or Higgins?

[Jamie]

Pittman.

[Adam]

If Downs is up right and Colts DST is top two, start them. And Jamie wanted me to bring something up about Joe Flacco. Do you want to. Jamie, the question was, do we agree with Joe Flacco's take? Can you summarize it? Because I didn't see it.

[Jamie]

He said he's, you know, talked about just being in Cincinnati without his family there, and he was talking about spending more time with the facility, you know, just trying to keep himself busy. And he says when he goes out to eat, he's by himself. So he said he used to look at the guy sitting at the bar at a restaurant by himself, and he said, I would feel sorry for him. You know, I thought, should I go sit next to that guy? He goes. Then I realized that that guy's probably just in heaven. And so peace and quiet. Yeah. I mean, we have kids, all three of us, and, you know, getting those moments of quiet, sometimes it's just. Just something you got to do. Yeah.

[Adam]

I don't know about going to a restaurant by yourself, though. Like, being at home by yourself is one thing. A restaurant. I used to go to restaurants when I lived. I lived alone, Palm Beach. And I was like, oh, this is nice. But, you know, got old.

[Heath]

But you drop people off at the club, then go to restaurant and get dinner and then go pick them back up.

[Adam]

Yeah, I would prefer to do that than stay at the club with them.

[Jamie]

Right.

[Adam]

For sure. But I don't know. He, he said, what was the last time you ate at a restaurant by yourself?

[Heath]

Oh, that's not like I was just thinking about that while Jamie was saying it. Like, my youngest is now 16. I'm, I'm getting a lot more of that type of time now. It's usually with my wife, but last time I ate in a restaurant by myself was probably the last time that I traveled.

[Jamie]

So August right now, he, Heath and I are in a scenario. You'll, you'll get there, Adam, you know, with, with your son playing sports. Like if you drop your kid off at a practice or a game, like to warm up, for example, you know, so my kids play a lot of baseball. You get there an hour before the game starts. Very rare that I'm not coaching. But in those scenarios, like I'll drop them off, I'm not going to sit there and watch them warm up. So I'll go grab something to eat and then come back. So I do it very frequently and I love it.

[Adam]

I love it.

[Jamie]

That's great. I do. I mean, you know, again, it's, it's odd times. You know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't at 6 o' clock say to my family, see ya. I'm going to a restaurant, you know, but I live 30 minutes from the office. So does Heath. You know, there are times where like I didn't eat lunch, so I'll stop and grab a sandwich and I'll just sit there and stare at my phone to see what injury updates are happening and I very much enjoy that.

[Adam]

Yeah, it's nice. All right, folks, have a great day. Enjoy the game tonight. We will talk to you tomorrow with starter sit for the NFC home games where we get to talk about the Giants in a heath free zone.

[Heath]

All right, you're safe space.

[Adam]

All right, let's go get a win. Let's get off to a good start tonight. See you later, everyone.

[Heath]

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[Jamie]

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