Start or Sit (NFC): A.J. Brown, Sam Darnold, Jameson Williams, Giants Passing Game and More (11/14 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Fantasy Football Today – "Start or Sit (NFC): A.J. Brown, Sam Darnold, Jameson Williams, Giants Passing Game and More"

Date: November 14, 2025
Hosts/Analysts: Adam Aizer, Dave Richard, Jamey Eisenberg, Heath Cummings

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Episode Overview

This episode is the weekly NFC "Start or Sit" rundown, focusing on key fantasy questions, tough lineup calls, and deep-dive insights on important NFC matchups in Week 11. Adam, Dave, and Jamey break down tough decisions around players like A.J. Brown, Sam Darnold, Jameson Williams, Giants pass catchers, as well as the impact of injuries, matchups, and late-season narratives for fantasy success. The tone is friendly and analytical, with lots of practical advice and on-the-spot rankings.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Running Back Debates: TreVeyon Henderson vs. Breece Hall

• Ownership Joy: Panelists discussed the joy and regret of rostering Travion Henderson after his big Thursday night (32.3 PPR points) and compared him with Breece Hall for the rest of season.
• Uncertainty with Coaching Decisions: While Henderson’s recent role and workload are impressive, Mike Vrabel’s usage patterns and Ramondre Stevenson’s health inject risk.
  • Jamey: "If you told me Ramondre is done or hey, it's Henderson's job, I'll take Henderson." (03:10)
  • Dave: "The efficiency wasn't great. There's room for improvement…It just comes down to whether you trust Vrabel to really lean into it." (03:20)
• Breece Hall Volatility: Hall is considered matchup-dependent with a rollercoaster point output and a mixed schedule ahead. Regardless, his touch floor is high.
  • Jamie: "The environment that he's in right now is so bad ... I don't love those matchups" (05:03)
  • Dave: "Is there a single matchup there where you think Breece won't get 15 touches?" (06:11)

Touch Expectation:
Both are considered mid-RB2s as long as situations remain unchanged, but either could become a league-winner with the right injury or depth chart shift.

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2. Philadelphia Eagles Offense: What To Make of A.J. Brown, Devonta Smith, and Jameson Williams

• A.J. Brown ‘Squeaky Wheel’ Potential?

  • Dave and Jamey debated whether Brown, amidst some public frustration and low yardage, is slated for a ‘squeaky wheel’ bounce back, especially as the Lions defense plays a lot of man coverage—a look Brown has historically thrived against.
    • Dave: "We've seen a much higher target per route run rate for A.J. Brown against man-to-man coverage. The Lions play the fourth-most man." (19:19)
  • Jamey is skeptical that the team will actively force him targets, pointing to past stretches where heavy usage did not yield big production.
    • Jamey: "I just don't know if we're going to see … a ten-plus target game for A.J. Brown because we want to make him happy. I just don't think that's the case." (30:42)

• Start/Sit Hierarchy:
  Brown and Smith are both viewed as high-end WR2s, with slight preference varying by analyst and league format.
  Jameson Williams is an upside WR3/flex with more value in three-receiver leagues. Potential for big plays vs. Philly’s secondary, especially with the continued uptick in role.

• Jameson Williams Utilization Concern:

  • Noted that many of Jamo’s best plays came with St. Brown off the field, raising questions on his weekly target floor (33:05).

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3. Quarterback Rankings and Sleepers

• Sam Darnold vs. Other Mid-Tier QBs:

  • Debate around Darnold’s volatility and upside as a streamer, especially in Rams-Seahawks likely shootout (48:17).
  • Adam is optimistic (preaches a 35-point upside!), but Dave and Jamey rank him as a high-floor, high-risk, mid-QB2.
    • Dave: "If he's averaging two [turnovers] a game … that's a pretty big issue … at best a reluctant start and not a top 12 quarterback." (48:22)
    • Adam: "I think he has 35-point upside and I think nobody else would feel that way, but I see it could be a shootout." (51:18)

• Brock Purdy’s Ceiling Post-Injury:

  • Cautious optimism for Purdy (returning from injury and against a tough Arizona defense). Not a consensus start, but a viable streamer in superflex.
  • Potential for capped passing volume due to 49ers’ game scripts (64:52).

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4. Giants Passing Game and Tight End Streamers

• Wandale Robinson and Theo Johnson as DFS/Redraft Plays:
  • If Slayton is out, Wandale Robinson gets a huge bump – especially in full PPR formats, and is considered a strong WR3/flex play (55:20, 61:56).
  • Theo Johnson rises up the tight end streaming ranks if LaPorta is limited or Slayton is out, due to projected target funnel (55:30).
    • Jamey: "If Slayton's out, I'll take [Johnson over Laporta]." (55:40)

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5. Notable Other Starts & Sits Across NFC Matchups

• Chicago @ Minnesota:
  • Confident starts: Caleb Williams, DeAndre Swift, Justin Jefferson, Aaron Jones, Rome Odunze, Loveland (borderline TE1).
  • "Jones has last 13 games against the Bears averaging 18.1 PPR." (41:40)
  • Jefferson is a must-start even if recent production is down; Odunze is a solid WR2/3.
• Rams vs. Seahawks:
  • Stafford is a confident QB1. Kupp and Puka are must-starts.
  • Kyren Williams: Reluctant start (mid/low RB2), can't be benched for most unless the alternative is a clear ascending option (22:40).
  • Seahawks RBs: Zach Charbonnet preferred over Kenneth Walker due to usage/trust concerns (52:15).
• 49ers at Cardinals:
  • McCaffrey, Kittle – Set-and-forget.
  • Jauan Jennings is the top SF WR option with Pearsall less trusted coming off injury.
  • On Arizona: Michael Wilson and Amari Demercado are the top streamers (weighted by format and injury status).

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6. Injuries & Matchups That Could Swing Fantasy Outcomes

• Lane Johnson and Cam Jurgens returning for Eagles helps the OL (17:49).
• The Raiders might be down three OL, a concern for their run/pass game (18:03).
• Key defensive back injuries for Lions (Terry Arnold, Kirby Joseph) might open up more for Eagles receivers (18:38).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On A.J. Brown’s “squeaky wheel” situation:
  "You hope the squeaky wheel happens...this doesn't seem like he's, he's clearly not been involved as much as we'd like." — Jamey Eisenberg (29:42)
• On Sam Darnold’s upside vs. risk:
  "Whenever he throws, he's been so efficient, so good...I think he has 35-point upside and I think nobody else would feel that way." — Adam Aizer (51:18)
• On uncertainty with the Rams RB job:
  “But he’s not going to play 90% of the snaps like last night… and he doesn’t work near the goal line… makes me nervous.” — Dave Richard (06:35)
• On Giants pass catchers if Slayton out:
  “There’s a chance we get 10+ targets for Wandale Robinson and 10+ for Theo Johnson… usually is with Jameis [Winston]…” — Jamey Eisenberg (57:46)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• RB debate: TreVeyon Henderson vs Breece Hall: 03:01–07:52
• AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, Jameson Williams Outlook: 19:11–33:46
• Lions-Eagles, Game of the Week Deep Dive: 26:08–36:15
• Giants passing preview (Wandale/Theo) and NYG/GB game: 55:20–62:19
• Chicago/Minnesota matchup breakdown: 37:19–44:34
• Seahawks at Rams (Sam Darnold, RBs, general outlook): 46:38–54:09
• 49ers at Cardinals, SF receiving ranks, Purdy analysis: 63:46–66:52

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Fantasy Advice Bullets

• Start: Wandale Robinson (if Slayton out), Theo Johnson as TE streamer, Jameson Williams in 3-WR/flex, Jauan Jennings as WR3/DFS punt, Rome Odunze (WR2/3), Aaron Jones (strong RB2 this week), both Eagles WRs (Brown/Smith high-end WR2s).
• Sit/Reluctant: David Montgomery (downside risk vs Eagles), Kyren Williams (bad matchup/usage drift), Seahawks RBs (prefer Charbonnet), Giants TEs other than Johnson.
• Monitor injuries: Lions DBs, Slayton status, LaPorta.
• DFS/GPP: Jamison Williams, Wandale Robinson, Theo Johnson (super-flex/TE premium).
• DST: Packers (top play), Rams over Seahawks in matchup this week.

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Recap Summary

The panel provided a thorough, dynamic breakdown of NFC start/sit decisions highlighting context beyond just numbers—usage trends, coaching risk, opponent matchups and injury situations, all with the signature FFT humor and debate. AJ Brown's bounce-back potential, Wandale Robinson’s sudden opportunity, and Sam Darnold’s streamer appeal all took center stage, alongside deeper waiver discussions and practical answers for every fantasy format.

Listeners came away with a strong sense of which fringe players and upside flexes could make the difference in a crucial Week 11, and key stats and storylines were frequently cited to back up each recommendation.

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For full rankings and last-minute updates, check the FFT crew’s columns and Sunday morning start/sit live streams.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[C]

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[A]

No, I can't.

[B]

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[A]

This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath.

[D]

All right, happy Friday, everybody, and welcome to fantasy football Today, presented by BetMGM. Make it legendary Friday the 14th. All right, we got six games to talk about today. Detroit at Philadelphia, Big one Sunday night. Chicago at Minnesota, Big one. Seahawks at Rams, huge game. Green Bay at the Giants, San Francisco at Arizona, and Carolina at Atlanta. Actually, pretty big game there. All right, what's up, guys? Happy Friday.

[C]

How we doing?

[D]

How we feeling? How we living? Yeah, good.

[C]

Very, very Trevion happy.

[D]

Oh, what was your ratio of leagues with Trevion to leagues playing against Travion? Henderson.

[C]

Playing against him. And one that I know for sure, it's against Dan in our YOLO Dynasty league. Okay, that was only one I saw. I think I have him in like six or seven leagues. Whoa. Yeah.

[B]

So you're a happy boy this morning. I. I have him in one league. I am thrilled. And I don't think I'm playing against him in any. So I am thrilled.

[D]

I think that's on the exact same way. I have some marital advice for people, you know.

[B]

Henderson.

[D]

Yes. Happy wife, happy life. Don't tell your wife to sit. Trevion Henderson the week he scores 30 points.

[C]

Oh, no.

[D]

It didn't go well.

[B]

Who did she start ahead of him?

[D]

Javante Williams and Jalen Warren. So I. I would have done that. Warren was a tough one, but. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, actually, I have Warren Henderson. Williams.

[D]

Really?

[C]

Wow.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Well, I'm in the doghouse anyway. Yeah, I've got to buy flowers in a bit. The pay.

[B]

We'll start with that game buyer Page Henderson jersey.

[D]

Yeah. Just to pour salt in the wound there. I also told her to sit.

[C]

Steph, actually, you could probably say I'm sorry for having you bench Henderson in the font that Henderson uses on his jersey and make it into still one jersey.

[D]

Oh, was it small?

[B]

That's the joke. Well, I don't know if it was like that last night, but like in the typical Patriots jersey, because they wore those whatever they call them, like. Yeah, Snowstorm jerseys. Usually it looks like. Like the last name is, like, I don't know, Hunt or something. Yeah. Put all the letters smooshed together on the back of his.

[C]

You ever seen that? No.

[B]

It's the weirdest thing. Doesn't look like Henderson at all in his normal jersey.

[D]

All right, here we go. Jets 20. No, Patriots 27, Jets 14. Kudos.

[B]

Give the jets the win.

[D]

They played well enough.

[E]

All right.

[C]

What.

[D]

Who would you rather have rest of season, Travion Henderson or Breeze Hall?

[C]

Golly, I guess I'll still say Breeze hall because we don't know what's gonna happen when Ramandre comes back. But if you told me Ramandre is done or hey, it's. It's Henderson's job. I'll take Henderson.

[B]

Well, obviously, if it was either of those things, I would say the exact same thing. I, I kind of want to say Henderson as well because the touchdowns were amazing and, and I love it. The efficiency wasn't good. I think there's room for him to get so much better there and it could happen quickly. It just comes down to whether or not you trust Mike Brable and whether or not he's going to lean into Henderson moving forward. I don't know if that is as easy to buy into as the fantasy points would suggest.

[D]

I think we kind of.

[C]

Schedule is great though.

[B]

It is. It's really good, man. We kind of know uphill battle every week.

[D]

Henderson, we're at the, the mercy of what Mike Vrabel wants to do. I mean, to be fair, it doesn't really look like Henderson is a guy who you should be slamming the ball in between the tackles with all game.

[C]

Right.

[D]

That's. That could be Ramon Dre's role. But obviously we'd love to see this continue for, for Travion Henderson and he had five catches in this game, which is great. 32.3 PPR fantasy points after 28 last week. Oh yeah, it's really great. How about Breece hall though? I mean, he, he pretty much has been matchup dependent. Last week he had a very good game against Cleveland with a 42 yard touchdown catch. But his schedule has. I mean, it's not so daunting. It's got Baltimore at Baltimore, Atlanta, Miami at the Jaguars at New Orleans. Unfortunately, it's New England in week 17 at Buffalo. But he is a roller coaster. I mean, 5.9, 7.2, 34.9, 19.5, 8.4. Those are the PPR fantasy points for hall in the last five games. Jamie, how do you approach him going forward? The.

[C]

I mean, just the environment that he's in right now is so bad. And you wonder if there's a quarterback change coming. They mentioned that several times post game on the broadcast, you know, the post game show that they do on Amazon prime, that there has to be a change. Now, part of that is Ryan Fitzpatrick, I think, sticking up for his buddy. So he was kind of driving that, that train. But in any event, look, we. We know that Aaron Glenn has clearly not been thrilled with Justin Fields. Justin Fields is not throwing the ball very well. I don't know how much of this you could put on Justin Fields because his receiving core is completely miserable. I mean, you know, they brought in two guys who dominated snaps last night that were buried on their team's benches, that they got in throw ins as trades in John Mechi and at night, Mitchell. You know, like, that's what we're dealing with. Mitchell, two drops, like it's, it's not. It's not help. There's nothing helping him. But again, like, at some point, if you're trying to win games, you probably make a change. If you're trying to lose games, just let Fields play it out and see how, you know, it all unfolds. I don't love all those matchups, though, that you said.

[D]

No, not at all. Yeah, I don't hate them all, but it's.

[B]

But is there a single matchup there where you think breeze won't get 15 touches? Will not see 15 touches unless Baltimore.

[C]

Just blasts them right away.

[B]

Sure. But short of that, he's going to get 15 touches each week. Now let's flip it to the Patriots. If Ramandre is back, how many weeks will Travion get 15 touches?

[C]

That's the wild card, right? It's right.

[B]

And the efficiency hasn't been maybe all that I'm rushing, maybe. But even if he only, like, he's not going to play 90 of the snaps like he did last night. And so if he's going to play 50% and he's going to see 12 touches and yeah, four of them could be catches, but he's averaging 3.7 yards per carry and he doesn't work near the goal line because that's something that Ramandre has been relatively good at. It makes me nervous about him being a fantasy asset rest of season that obviously flips. If Rabel and Mike and Josh McDaniels say, you know what, this dude's awesome. He's got speed. Let's use him a lot more and more. And if they do that, he's going to get way more than 15 touches per game.

[D]

I think he's going to be a league winner.

[B]

We just don't know which way it's going to go.

[C]

You should go on with the expectation of what he did. I forget the opponent, but two games ago when he had 12, the first start without Ramandre, he had 12.7 PPR points.

[D]

Atlanta, so that's that. 14 carries for 55 yards, four catches for 32 yards.

[C]

Like that. That should be the expectations. Maybe 12 carries and four catches. But like, that should be the expectations or 13 carries and three catches, you know, like something in the neighborhood of 15 total touches. And. And that, that stat line without a touchdown, like that's what the expectation should be.

[B]

And then how many fantasy points was that game, Adam?

[D]

That was 12.7. And we're talking about Travion Henderson. That's full PPR. Let's wrap up on Travion. I want to ask.

[B]

All right, so how many games do you think Breeze is going to get? 12.8 or 12.7, whatever, 12 and change. Even with 13 carries per game, I don't think there's going to be that many. It's going to be really close between these two. All right, so I might lean Anderson.

[D]

Believe it or not, Drake May has had three disappointing games in a row. He scored 17.4 fantasy points last night. So that's 20.4 against Atlanta, 22.1 at Tampa Bay, 17.4 against the Jets. Do we have any concerns about him and do we think Stefan Diggs, if you're still. If you still can trade, is a sell high or just ride it out? Jamie, thoughts on that passing game there?

[C]

He's just stopped ranking May 1st and go back to hating him again. I think in the, in the case of Drake May, you're just starting him like, you know, unless you picked up somebody along the way or somebody dropped Rock Purdy, you want to go that route. You want to go matchups, like, I'm, I'm still starting him. And then Diggs. Look, if you can get something great and trade for it, absolutely explore it. But like, this is the number one receiver now. I'd ride it out personally, you know. So again, the schedule is great. He's playing very well. You gotta assume that he's just continuing to get stronger with his knee, you know, as he gets further away from the ACL tear. That being said, if somebody wants to overpay for him, take it season high.

[D]

89.2% Route Participation Rate for Stefan Diggs.

[B]

That's great.

[D]

It does, yeah. I don't think it'll be. I don't know it'll be that high. I'm surprised. Drake May actually threw 32 or 34 times, whatever it was in this game. 34 times in this game. Usually he doesn't throw a lot, especially when they're leading, but he looked really good digs and you know, but most of his games are not like this. I mean, he's been 46 or fewer yards in four of his last six games. And they do have a lot of games where they could probably just run the clock out. Well, I don't know. I don't know about that because they sell Buffalo and Baltimore, but they have the Cincinnati, the Giants and the jets remaining too.

[C]

And they have a buy shootout.

[D]

Cincinnati could be a shootout. Yeah. All right, so they'll probably have to throw in at least. At least two, if not three of those games, maybe more. All right, it's time for football at BetMGM. Register with BetMGM to get instant access to the best variety of parlay selection features. No sweat. And boost tokens, live betting options and much more. New players can receive up to 1500 dollars back in bonus bets with bonus code fantasy if they don't win their first bet. You don't want to miss out on any of the hard hitting action at BetMGM. Place your moneyline parlay bets and more today. Bet MGM. Make it legendary. Okay, back to the news and notes. Lamar Jackson had a full practice. Should be good. J.J. mcCarthy, same thing. Brock Purdy is going to start this week. Where's he ranked? Guys, at Arizona, we have that game coming up, but you can tell me, where's he ranked?

[C]

I put him first team, just ahead of Tua and Mario.

[B]

I've got him in between Tua and Mariota. I think he's a safe bet for 20 fantasy points.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Because he's not the only one coming back for the 49ers.

[C]

Adam.

[D]

Oh, Ricky Pearsall is coming back.

[B]

That looks like it.

[D]

Okay, that's good. I knew it was a possibility. All right, that's Brock Purdy. Joe Flacco should be good. And Davis Mills will start at Tennessee. CJ Stroud's been ruled out. Running back Pacheco missed practice again. Bucky Irving practiced again. Bucky Irving and Chris Godwin. They remain limited in practice. We're not expecting them as of now, but hopefully we'll have an update for you on the mailbag on Friday. We usually get Bucks updates before that show is over. Let's see. Donovan Knight's been limited and who is Devon Hn's handcuff in your opinion? Guys, I've had some people ask me about this because Jalen Wright seemed to be playing ahead of Ollie Gordon. Dave, do you have a preference There if you had a chan.

[B]

Gordon hasn't been 100 lately. And I think that's why we've seen a little bit more of Jalen Wright playing. I would imagine it'll be a split between the two, but I've. I haven't seen anything great from Jalen Wright in practice, much less a game. So if I. If I had my choice, I would rather have Gordon than.

[C]

Right.

[D]

Okay, wide receiver. We got Garrett Wilson on ir. Tori Horton missing practice. Christian Watson was limited, but he should play. Romeo Dobbs is going to play. Matthew Golden's got a chance to play. They could have basically a full receiving core other than Jaden Reed at the Giants this week. Brian Thomas Jr. Ltd. Again. We know Marvin Harrison junior's out. Ricky Pearsall could play this week. Terry McLaurin was working on the side. We're still not expecting McLaren. They have a buy next week. Devonte Adams looking good to play. I'm sorry, did I anything there?

[B]

No, I was just saying after the buy, McLaren should be back.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Calvin Ridley Limited. I don't.

[C]

We're.

[D]

I'm not really expecting Darius Slayton. We'll see if he practices today. I was watching him in the fourth quarter. He looked like he could barely run. And he's missed practice. Both. Both practice sessions this week. So if you have Slayton, I'd be hesitant. You guys feel the same way?

[C]

Yes. And disappointed, too, because this may be the only James game.

[D]

It does make Theo Johnson more interesting. It makes Wanda Robinson maybe a little bit better. We'll get to that game in a bit. And tight end news. So Gadsden practicing in full Breton. Strange expects to play this week. Interesting development there. Would you rather have Brenton Strange or David Najoku?

[B]

Strange.

[D]

Dalton Schultz. Did he come back? Did he practice yesterday? Was he. I think he missed. Okay, we'll check on Schultz, and I think I'm.

[B]

Bring it up.

[D]

Someone asked me if. No, Dalton Schultz did not practice. Someone asked me if Cade Stover's return could affect Dalton Schultz. Silver had four targets in week one. I didn't even know that. Is that even a factor for you guys?

[C]

Not at this point.

[B]

The factor for me is that the Texans have an easy matchup this week and then a short week showdown against Buffalo at home next week. And I wonder if anybody that they plan on counting on for that game in Buffalo doesn't or versus Buffalo doesn't get a big workload, assuming they beat the brakes off of Tennessee. So if Schultz isn't 100, do they lower his Route rate. If they have a big lead, do they pull Woody Marks and Nick Chubb and they let their other two running back Schlemiels go out there and play in the second half. There's. There's a couple of things I'm a little bit worried about. When it comes to the Texans off it couldn't go. They. They need the win. No question.

[D]

If they're in control.

[B]

If the game is 23. 3 in the fourth quarter, I wonder if that pulls those guys off.

[D]

Yeah, that would be the case even if playing on Sunday, the next week. I've never seen a team pull guys early because they're. They've got a Thursday game. I mean, I, I don't know, maybe it's happened, but I've seen it a bunch. No, you have not.

[B]

I have too.

[D]

Give me an example.

[B]

I don't have one.

[D]

Come on. All right. And Sam Laporta is not practicing. Okay. This is. We got to keep an eye on this. Now it's a tough matchup to begin with, but Sam Laporta's got a back injury.

[B]

It's not just a Thursday game. It's Thursday against Buffalo.

[D]

Yeah, but I've never seen huge game at home.

[B]

They need to win.

[C]

They have to win this week. They do.

[B]

Listen, if Tennessee keeps it close with them, those plans go flying out the window and you'll see four quarters of winning marks.

[C]

The Jaguars were, were killing them for the first three quarters. The jets gave the Patriots a game like I don't.

[B]

Yeah, you've seen enough Titans football.

[C]

I've never seen teams pull guys in in the game on Sunday because they're concerned about the Thursday game.

[B]

But if it's a blow. If it's a blowout in the fourth quarter.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, go ahead.

[D]

All right, let's take a break. One question for each game. When we come back, I have to.

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[D]

By the way, I forgot to ask, are there any offensive line injuries or defensive injuries that are making a big difference for, for you guys in your rankings this week?

[C]

I mean, keep an eye on Lane Johnson. You know, he's, he's been banged up. He's trending in the right direction.

[D]

Cam Jurgens, too. He's looks like he's going to play.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, he's back.

[B]

That's great. That's really good for Philly. The Raiders might be down three offensive linemen.

[C]

They are already going to be without.

[B]

JPJ at right guard. And here come the Cowboys with Quinn and Williams and their newfound defensive front. So that worries me a little bit about Ashton Genty. I shouldn't even say a little bit. It worries me a lot about Ashton Genti. There's a chance Ryan Kelly comes back for Minnesota, so hopefully he plays four quarters and, and that offensive line is at full strength for them. There's, there's other ones as we go along with the games, if there's something that comes to mind. Aaron Brewer is going to be back. Is Austin Jackson coming back for Miami? So that offensive line could be a little bit stronger.

[D]

Josh Simmons looks like he's going to return for the Chiefs. He's their left tackle. That's big news for them. And you got a couple of defensive backs, Terry and Arnold and Kirby Joseph, who could be out for the Lions at Philadelphia. That could be helpful, too. All right. And I mentioned yesterday that Buffalo's secondary seems to be getting a lot healthier. They were super beat up last week, but they are looking healthier this week against Tampa Bay. Okay, one question for each game. Detroit is at Philadelphia. Rank AJ Brown, Devonte Smith and Jameson Williams.

[C]

Smith. Brown. Williams.

[B]

I'll take Brown first. Brown. Smith. Williams.

[D]

Oh, is this a man zone thing?

[B]

It is a man's own thing. We've seen a much higher target per route run rate for AJ Brown against Manto man coverage. And the Lions play the fourth most man. And I think they're going to do. They're going to play a lot of that. And I, I, I also think it's not going to make it easy on AJ Brown because DJ Reed looks like he's coming back for the Lions, and.

[D]

It'S the game of the week. Yeah, you are. The Eagles and the Lions. It's a Sunday night showdown, Dave, and it's the game of the week.

[B]

Hey, first of all, I think you picked the wrong game. And second of all, I even. I gave you all the time you needed and it still took you like seven minutes to play the music.

[D]

Sorry, I'm soloing. Listen, that was, I was setting it. I was setting it up.

[B]

If you're setting it up, then it better be a lot better and more.

[D]

Surprising, let me tell you. Let me get you behind the scenes here. 3 out of 5 actually looking for this sound effect. The squeaky crickets for AJ Brown. Is he going to get the squeaky wheel?

[B]

A little bit of that, too.

[D]

But as I was on the mixer looking for my sounds, I said, you know what? Dave is expecting Ram Seahawks. Let's smash that button and play the game of the week. Because you were expecting Ram Seahawks, weren't you?

[B]

Three stars. Three out of five stars.

[C]

I'll take it.

[B]

Five. Five stars for yesterday with Heath and singing the game of the song and Espanol.

[D]

Oh, he's giving me negative five stars. He was not happy.

[B]

Oh, I know. I, I have been where he has been. I know. I watched that. I was like, yep. Know what that's like?

[D]

Oh, man. All right. Chicago at Minnesota. Jamie, you remember we did something like sit reluctant start or excited start?

[C]

Mm.

[D]

Is Chicago at Minnesota one of those reluctant start games?

[C]

No. No.

[D]

Who are you excited to start?

[C]

Oh, Dunesay, Swift Jefferson. I actually like Aaron Jones a lot. I think there's a great history here.

[D]

Okay. I just can't really get a grip, get a feel for how I expect this game to go. Is this going to be a defensive game? An offensive game, but. All right, good. I'm glad you're Caleb.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

No, he's. He makes me so nervous. All right, we'll. We'll save it. But you guys are confident. I think you guys have about 12. Caleb Williams. Yeah. Because Minnesota is number one in the NFL and pressure rate. The Giants got a lot, a decent amount of pressure on him, but he kept getting away from it last week, which was amazing.

[B]

Right.

[C]

And running what he does.

[D]

Yeah. But. Okay, I'm looking forward to talking about that game.

[B]

Seahawks pressure runs around, burns 17 seconds and then throws like a pass that is almost intercepted. Seahawks on the sideline for a big play.

[D]

Are you concerned about Kyron Williams? Tough matchup and he's had 14 or fewer carries in five of his last six games. Dave, are you concerned about Kyron Williams?

[B]

To the point where he's outside of my top 15 at running back, yes. To the point where I'm gonna sit him for Rashad White or Seahawks running back?

[C]

No.

[B]

I still think that the opportunity for touchdowns and what I think is going to be a high scoring game and still plenty of work. Not necessarily dominating work because Blake Corum has been getting in there with him. He's still a number two running back, but he's not the number one guy or anything. A top 12 guy. I mean, for fantasy, he's the 1A.

[D]

Yeah. Okay.

[C]

So this is a reluctant start. I think, you know, going into the week. Derrick Henry, Kyron Williams, Breece hall, trying to think anybody else, I mean, gonna.

[D]

Throw Genti in there or.

[C]

No, I was, I was about to say, like, I don't. I don't know if Genti falls in that category. I guess you probably put him there just because the offensive line concerns and we'll see what happens with Dallas. But yes, you could, you could certainly put him in that. In that category of you. Somebody mentioned in the chat, like you start, you know you're going to get a bad game out of it, but there's nobody better on your team to start over.

[D]

Yeah, I said that about pre sol. Yeah. Green Bay is at the Giants. Who's the best wide receiver in this game? Jamie.

[C]

Wanda Robinson.

[D]

Dave.

[B]

Jamie's right.

[D]

San Francisco's at Arizona. How would you rate?

[B]

He's right. If it's. If catches count, I'll take Christian Watson. If catches do not count.

[D]

Oh, wow. I take Dobbs over what you. I take Dobbs over Watson. I think in any format. I just feel like it. Well, last week was horrible, but Dobbs.

[B]

I think they try and rectify that this week. I think they try.

[C]

I would have been with you if Dobbs was out. I just. I don't know if they're. If they're forcing more than handful of plays and four targets for Christian Watson at this point.

[B]

Yeah, but it's against the Giants and if that Giant secondary is still.

[D]

Be not. It's not beat up though. The Giants look like they might.

[B]

Are they getting a Debo back? I've been limited, but that's going to help out the fact that definitely helps. Yeah, yeah. No, I might even switch it, but I didn't know that. So thank you for telling me.

[D]

Well, I mean, I don't know if he's playing, but he's been limited. All right.

[B]

He's definitely playing and locking down Christian Watson. That's what I heard.

[D]

He's not gonna, you know. Yeah, he's not gonna shadow Christian Watson.

[B]

Zero catches rank him accordingly. Thank you, Adam, for that important information.

[D]

San Francisco at Arizona. How would you rate Amari Di Mercado and Michael Wilson on the sleeperometer?

[C]

Wouldn't it be sleepometer?

[D]

No, no, because that would be if they're actually going to sleep.

[C]

Gotcha.

[B]

No, that would be a sleep number.

[C]

Yeah, they're high.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

But do you think Donovan Knight's gonna play?

[C]

I mean, that clearly changes things for D. Mercado to. To a certain extent, but you have to. I mean, I'm gonna approach it like he's got the most upside of this backfield. He might get the most touches, but his explosive plays have been good and they've been using him in the passing game. So without Marvin Harrison there, in a game where they're probably chasing points like I like the Mercado still.

[D]

Yeah. So d. Mercado has three carries this year of 17 or more yards. The guy he's going against, Christian McCaffrey, has zero. But that was a very hilarious stat. Carolinas at Atlanta starter sit Tetaroa McMillan.

[C]

Definite start in three receiver leagues. Borderline starter and two receivers.

[B]

I. I reluctantly start him even in three receiver leagues and especially if it's half or non PPR.

[D]

Okay. So I think we could probably preview that game in like 90 seconds. But we'll find out later on Detroit at Philadelphia. Here we go. The game of the week. Case you haven't heard, it's not El partido de la seismada, though.

[C]

No.

[D]

All right, Philadelphia. So I talked about. I don't know if this even matters to you at all. We'll see. This will be a good litmus test. Philadelphia allows the third receiving yards per game on play action passes. They went a lot more under center. The Lions did under center play action last week with Dan Campbell calling the place. And that's where Jameson Williams thrives throughout his career. So, yeah, he's, he's a really tricky call because the Eagles defense is very good. Let's be real here, Jamie, with. I think it's always David Montgomery. Well, no, it's, it's golf, Montgomery and jmo. Right. And okay, I'm an idiot. It's everyone but Gibbs and St. Brown for the Lions. They're, they're kind of, they're kind of a tough team on a weekly basis. How do you feel about them this week in Philadelphia?

[C]

Golf would be a number two quarterback. I, I think there's still a chance for him to get to around 20 fantasy points because of how I think this game will go, where they're going to throw a little bit more and the way that Jameson Williams looked last week. Now LaPorta not being there will change some things clearly for Everybody. But assuming LaPorta plays, you're starting him almost by default. Similar to what we said about some of these running backs. Like, may not be his best game, but it's hard to. You don't want to carry two tight ends. You're certainly not going to bench him for some of these, you know, Pat Fryermouths and those type of players. Yet in the case of Jameson Williams, I think he's earned the trust to be back in three receiver leagues as a starter. And in two receiver leagues, it comes down to who else you have as a, as a flexibility. So again, you know, there's the thing about Montgomery that's, that's a little weird is they've given up rushing touchdowns. I think they've allowed eight on the season. And so that's where Montgomery's gonna have to win. He just hasn't been very consistent since the Cincinnati game. One touchdown since that game and not doing much else on top of it. So in a game where they're potentially chasing points against a good run defense, despite the fact that they've given up rushing touchdowns, including Last week I, I would try to set him just. This feels like a Jameer Gibbs game more so than anything else.

[D]

Is there any format in which you would start David Montgomery over A.J. brown or Devonte Smith?

[C]

The only one would be if you're still in the ancient Touchdown only leaks, right?

[B]

Yardage doesn't count. Catches don't count.

[D]

So in general, are you thinking that A.J. brown bounces back and how are we feeling about those guys, Dave Brown and Smith?

[B]

I think they're both number two receivers. I'm gonna buy into it for a couple of reasons. Number one, the, the man coverage that I expect the Lions to play. Number two, I, I think that, I think that Philly's gonna have a hard time running the football even though they've got Cam Jurgens back. Lane Johnson will play. I believe in the Lions front. I think they're pretty good up there and Saquon hasn't been efficient. And this is a game where I think they're going to need to throw to, to win. And this is it. Just based on their track record this year and in years past, these guys are going to be involved. Brown, especially if it's one on one down the field. We've seen Hertz take shots and I think he can win on those shots even though it's going to be against good corner coverage.

[C]

Okay. I think the thing to keep in mind with AJ Brown because clearly a lot of question marks. So forget about the on field stuff. The, the thing that he said on the Twitch stream and then his comments and I was reading this morning, like Jordan Mylata, for example, everybody supports him. Everybody publicly at least supports him. And what he said and the fact that he, I don't know if you heard what his comments were. He's like, I'm not calling anybody out.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

I'm not saying that I'm unhappy that we're winning. He feels like they could win in an easier fashion if the offense is doing more. And so, you know, you, you bring up the squeaky wheel situation like you hope that that happens. Right. But this, this doesn't seem like he's, he's clearly not been involved as much as we like. And we, we had that from after week one. Then he had that stretch of games where he was getting targets. It just wasn't producing. I think if you're just approaching it like, you know, Dave gives you a great example of how this could work because of the defense that he's facing and how he's thrived in those situations. I just don't know if we're going to see. Oh, this is a ten plus target game for AJ Brown because we want to make him happy. Right. I just don't know if that's the case. I wouldn't approach it that way. Like he could win because of how things unfold in the game. He could win because of how Detroit plays. He can win because the targets that he's getting and maybe there's a few more, you know, maybe one or two more, I don't know. But I wouldn't go into this expecting, okay, here's unhappy player. We're going to appease him. I just don't think that that's the case.

[B]

If he's getting more than a third of the targets when he runs a routing, it's man coverage. I like his chances to get north of seven targets.

[D]

Yeah, unfortunately he's had that a number of times and has, has not, you know, performed. It's. It's wild. I mean he had that stretch that Jamie was talking about weeks two through six. He had eight or more targets in every game. He was on pace for 150 targets from Week 2 through 6 and A.J. brown was on pace in those games for 82 catches, 904 yards and three touchdowns on 150 targets. That's not A.J. brown. That should be almost double the yardage and touchdowns. I mean not, not quite, but it should be much better. He just certainly the touchdowns, he's just struggling.

[C]

I think just, you know, separate conversation. If you are out of your dynasty league, this is a good guy to go trade for. If you have something that you can offer somebody that's in contention because he's probably out of Philadelphia.

[D]

Oh, he's going to Buffalo. I mean his. I'm telling you right now.

[B]

Oh, sure, that's what they want is another diva complaining wide receiver in Buffalo.

[D]

I, they need, they're going to waste Josh Allen's prime if they don't win the super bowl here. They need to get him a wide receiver and it's going to be A.J. brown. Book it. Okay, back to this game. Dave, you are higher. You are the highest on Jameson Williams. He's 22nd for you. He's 27th for Jamie. So not too different. And he's 32nd for Heath sexually, perfectly in the middle. 22, 27, 32 there. Give me make the case for Jameson Williams.

[B]

Just like him better than a lot of other receivers that are in that same range. Receivers like DK Metcalf, who has an amazing matchup. Not sure how many Targets. He's going to get Juwan Jennings, who now has to deal with Ricky Pierce, all coming back. There is always going to be a large group of number three type wide receivers, and Jameson Williams is just at the top of that list for me. Should be a relatively high scoring game. Doesn't particularly do well when Jared Goff is pressured, and I think golf is going to get pressured quite a bit. What do you. I asked Adam about this. Jamie, let me ask you all, but one of Jamo's catches last week came with Amunra off the field. I'm just wondering if you think that that means anything or not, because, yes, he definitely was utilized differently. It was. It looked great, but that was just a weird kind of wrinkle that I wasn't expecting when I went back and watched last week.

[C]

I mean, I. I'm assuming if you're calling pass plays and Amara's off the field, who else are you gonna throw to? Like, I. I'm trusting Jameson William more than Isaac Tesla at this point, you know, so.

[B]

Sure. I mean, Laporta was out there, but points taken.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Saint Brown usually plays, you know, just about every snap, but it's been. When St. Brown was not on the. Was on the field, JMO didn't do much at all.

[B]

He had one catch.

[D]

All right, so I'm gonna. I'm gonna do. RJ Harvey is going to be kind of our litmus test today. Okay. RJ Harvey or AJ Brown?

[B]

I'll take AJ Brown.

[D]

AJ Brown, RJ Harvey or Devonte Smith?

[C]

Smith. I like Smith better than Brown, so.

[D]

I'll take Smith, R.J. harvey or. Or Jameson Williams.

[C]

I'll take Harvey.

[B]

I might take Harvey and non ppr. Otherwise, it's JMO starter sit.

[D]

Jalen Hurts.

[B]

Start.

[C]

Start. But they're, you know, a couple guys I like better, such as Herbert. I would have said maybe Flacco. No, I have Hertz over Flacco.

[B]

I have Hurts third.

[C]

I'll take Baker over Hertz.

[B]

Okay. I'll take Lamar and Allen over Hertz.

[D]

Okay. And I, you know, I. I think Detroit's got a pretty good defense, but if they are missing Arnold and Joseph, that's. That's not going to be good. But they've allowed multiple touchdown passes in seven of nine games just because they've had a lot of injuries. And Saquon Barkley. Look, he's Saquon Barkley. Tough matchup again. He hasn't been great this year. He's tenth, right around tenth for these guys. Ninth or tenth.

[B]

I have I debated him versus Jalen Warren. Like this is how down.

[C]

I like Warren better.

[B]

Yeah. And I get it. I completely get it. And I could see myself making that change too, because that matchup is so good and his matchup is so bad. But just like Adam said, it's Saquon Barkley. And so if you're, if you're really, if you really have McCaffrey, Barkley and Warren on your team, getting away from Saquon Barkley, it just feels a little tough to do. Fortunately, not many people have that problem. Yeah, and you mentioned it. Adam, Arnold, Joseph. And you said it with Laporta too.

[C]

Right.

[B]

They haven't practiced.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

This week.

[D]

Which tight end do you like better, by the way? Laporta, if he plays, or Goddard. Would you start Theo Johnson over either of them?

[B]

No.

[C]

No.

[B]

Laporta has actually been the go to guy for golf this year when he's been pressured. He has the highest target per route run rate of anybody on the Lions when that's been the case.

[D]

I've got a few questions in the chat. Jameson Williams or Cortland Sutton Jamo.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Hertz or Stafford?

[C]

Stafford.

[D]

Kamani Vidal or David Montgomery? Non ppr.

[B]

Vidal.

[D]

And Jameson Williams or Quentin Johnston?

[C]

I'll take Johnson.

[B]

I've got Johnson one spot ahead.

[D]

Okay. All right. We're actually going to take a break here. And that was a long game for sure, but worth it. Oh, DSTs. Start the DSTs. Either of them.

[C]

Yeah. Eagles over the Lions, but low end starter.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

All right. We'll do the Bears and the Vikings when we come back on fantasy football.

[F]

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[D]

Chicago's at Minnesota coincidence of the game. The Bears allow 4 yards per carry to running backs with linebacker T.J. edwards on the field and 5.6 yards per carry to running backs with Edwards off the field. And he has not been practicing. Seems like quite, it seems like a coincidence to me. But those are the numbers and it's, you know, could be a huge deal. Earlier I talked about is this going to be a high scoring game, a low scoring game? Jamie, what do you think the spread is suggesting? High scoring, 48 and a half or this total rather 48 and a half.

[C]

I mean, I hope so. You know, it was an entertaining game in week one. Things that really get going until the second half. I don't know how much that played into McCarthy more so than the Bears because the Bears offense looked good in the first half. It always comes down to which defense shows up for Minnesota, you know, last two games they've played fairly well. You know, keeping the Lions defense, offense in check and obviously keeping, you know, Baltimore to kicking field goals. Chicago's offense playing well right now. You know, and so I, I think just in the case of, of what you're looking at from the Bears and their fantasy options like Caleb Williams is a low end starter, obviously DeAndre Swift should be considered at least a number two running back. And in the case of Romo Dunze, you know, you throw out the one bad game two games ago. I think he's been fairly consistent. Did well against this defense as well in week one. Excuse me. So those three for me are starters. I think Loveland's a borderline starter. You know, depending on what your tight end situation looks like, maybe we get Luther Burden. If DJ Moore, I know he would. I think he was limited yesterday. If, if DJ Moore is out with a shoulder injury, then you could trust Burden maybe more so than you would trust D.J. more by himself. But I think just in the case of more or Burden, you shouldn't be starting them at this point. And for the Vikings, really, again, if, if McCarthy plays well, then there's a chance for everybody to play well here. But we just haven't seen that from him consistently. So to me, it's Jefferson and Aaron Jones as the only starters.

[D]

Dave, how do you feel about this game?

[B]

Basically the same. I don't even know if I need to get into it any more than than Jamie did.

[D]

Okay, then I'll go point, counterpoint, ready. Like I'll just. You said the Bears offenses look good lately. I think My issue is they haven't looked good until like six minutes are left in the fourth quarter, right? They, they have stretches where they look horrible. Romo Dunes has actually been bad in three of his last five games at Washington against the Saints in Cincinnati. Scored a combined 10.3 fantasy points in those three games. Now, I don't even want to make that case. I'm. I consider him an absolute must start. Jefferson is a must start. But Jefferson's been something like wide receiver 24 per game or something crazy like that. Addison, you know, can't really trust him. And then it's Caleb Williams, right? You know, the first game against Minnesota, he did well, but he, he needed that. A lot of rushing production, 58 yards and a touchdown. It was all the way back.

[C]

He's been doing.

[D]

Yeah, but I, I mean, he also scored 4.7 points against the Saints, 13.8 at Las Vegas, 11.8 at Baltimore. Who does he do well against? He, he usually does really well against the layups, but you know, Cincinnati and the Giants and the Cowboys and Minnesota. Minnesota was his fourth best game, but, you know, he had 210 passing yards and one touchdown there. So. I don't, I don't know, man. Like, I'm nervous about. I'm, I am starting. I think you guys are going to tell me not to, but I'm starting Aaron Rodgers over Caleb Williams and it's.

[C]

I don't hate that. I mean, again, Rogers gets the Bengals. I, to me, it's like once you get to like QB 8, 8 through like 15, there's. There's so much upside for a lot of those guys, you know, so Tua, Mariota, Rogers, obviously, Flacco, obviously. You know, like, you're just looking at what the potential is for these guys. I think Caleb's in that group.

[D]

I just, I always feel like Brian Flores has the chance to be a. Be great as a coordinator and really flummox a young quarterback like Caleb Williams, I guess, because then they're down one.

[C]

Of their key defensive linemen.

[D]

Lamar Jackson struggled last week, but for the, for the most part, good quarterbacks have done well against Minnesota. If you want to have confidence of Caleb Williams. Dave, who's the best running back in this game?

[B]

It's swift. But I agree that Aaron Jones has a chance to do very well. He's been the lead back for Minnesota since he's come back and he's looked good. And you mentioned it. TJ Edwards being out does matter for the Bears. Noah Sewell has replaced him. He was okay last week. But he's had some really bad games before then that I, I think you should feel confident with AJ or not AJ's initials, Aaron Jones as a number two running back this week.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Jones has last 13 games against the Bears is averaging 18.1 PPR.

[D]

Wow.

[C]

And, and, and to be honest, his, his week one game brought that average down.

[D]

Yeah, that's. It's a pretty.

[B]

And what did he do in Week 1?

[D]

He had eight carries for 23 yards, three catches for 44 yards and a touchdown for 15.7 PPR fantasy points.

[B]

Yeah, that brought his average down.

[D]

So I'll read some chat questions here but before I do that, the tight ends do we want to start?

[B]

No, not Hawkinson, but over Hawkinson and I don't have Loveland as like a top 12 guy. He's kind of down there for me.

[C]

Yeah, I, I don't think he's horrible but last week I think is what you should kind of expect. Nine and a half PPR points in.

[B]

That range and we talked about it on the Stash show. Adam Luther Burden should be on way more rosters than he is right now. Only he's available in over 75% of CBS leagues. But there's a chance that he could make inroads on taking over a nice role in Chicago. The.

[C]

The one thing about Loveland, five touchdowns allowed to tight ends in the last five games.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah, they've been struggling there.

[C]

All right.

[D]

Odunze or Higgins?

[C]

Oh, Dunze.

[B]

I believe I have t higher.

[D]

Swift, Rashad White or Zay Flowers? Ppr.

[C]

Swift.

[B]

Swift.

[D]

I real quick on Swift. Does it bother you that he basically split snaps, split possessions in the first three quarters?

[C]

No, no, no. I think whenever there's an easy game, you should worry about it. When there's a tough game where they're probably going to be in a dogfight or maybe even chasing points like that's where Swift is going to shine and.

[B]

He'S going to have more efficiency, a better role in the passing game.

[D]

I know he's better than Manangai. I'm just saying. Are you worried that we might be fooled by his role starting him over in every down back, for example? I don't know who you know. I don't know.

[B]

Genti.

[D]

Yeah. Swift or Genti? Swift or Barkley.

[B]

I would take Barkley over Swift. I am. I. I currently have Swift over Genti because I'm really worried about the offensive.

[C]

Line for Vegas Barclays with Genti. For me.

[D]

Pick one in Super Flex. Bo Nix, JJ McCarthy Jameis Winston.

[C]

I think.

[B]

I think I have next ranked the highest.

[D]

Justin Jefferson or Trey McBride at Flex.

[C]

McBride if that's the choice. But I mean, how are you sitting one of these guys? Yeah.

[D]

Quinshon Judkins or Odunze? Ppr. Oh, Dunze or Rashad White, we'll go. That's an easy one. All right, that's it for this game. Let's see. I think the Vikings defense was in play here.

[C]

Go Bears over Vikings.

[D]

Only for Heath. Heath likes the Vikings. Actually, the Bears allow the third fewest fantasy points at dsts. They don't get sacked and they don't turn the ball over. All right, next game is Seattle at Los Angeles. The second best game of the week. Yeah.

[C]

All right.

[D]

I already gave you the stat about Kyren Williams. More than 14 carries in one of his last six games. And if he doesn't score, he struggles. I'm going to try to trade him. I guess I'm glad Heath isn't here. I was going to have to try to get something great for Kyron Williams, but I'm nervous because if he's got Seattle again, I think in the fantasy championship.

[C]

But anyway, if I were you, I would try and maybe do like a package of maybe Kyron and Nico Collins for Christian McCaffrey.

[D]

That might work out for me yet.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Stafford Rams are super Easy start. Puka. Start. Start. Devonte. And we already talked about Kyron Williams. Kyren or Swift. Swift Kyron or Chase Brown.

[C]

Chase Brown.

[D]

I have to apologize for not even bringing up Kyle Menangai. Where's Kyle Menangai? If we go back to last game real quick.

[B]

Sorry, we're past that game. Can't talk about him. Look at the image.

[C]

That's amazing.

[B]

Wow. I can't see.

[D]

It's dad with a, like a very black nose strip.

[B]

That's so funny.

[D]

Huge.

[B]

I am loving. I'm loving that you guys are starting to use images from the show as your avatars.

[C]

Oh, they have been for a while.

[D]

It's great.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, yeah, I mean, there's the. There's the one of you scaring Adam. There's the one of Heath from when he started working here and he looked like a. Like a fresh faced 20 year old.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

Good stuff.

[C]

Bad guy. Rah, rah.

[B]

That's me doing what?

[D]

Oh, in the hot box.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Did he change it?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah. That's been a while. Oh, that's when I had sunglass. I should bring that back next week. Next Wednesday.

[D]

Where is Stafford ranked? You mean Manangai oh, did you answer that?

[B]

Flex.

[C]

Not guys, a flex.

[D]

All right, Where's Stafford?

[C]

Top six.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's on some incredible run.

[B]

SUTD stud.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

In his last six games, Matthew Stafford's on pace for 57 touchdowns and no interceptions. You gotta ride that out. Do you guys think this is a high scoring game? Again, it's 48 and a half. It's just like the Vikings Bears game, but it's also too respectable to good defenses.

[C]

I worry more so about the Seahawks than the Rams because I think as Stafford has played and shown us, like, I don't think he's matchup proof and clearly the Seahawks defense is great, but I think they'll score. And the Seahawks, like we've, we've seen easy opponents for them and we've seen, you know, like the Houston game for example, where they struggled a little bit. And this Rams defense is good. So I'm more worried about Seattle's holding up their end of the bargain because the Rams, I know Chiron's been, you know, sort of up and down, but they can still beat you both ways. They can run on you and they can throw on you.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Seahawks have not been able to run on a lot of teams and so if they get one dimensional. I know the Rams haven't exactly been great at getting to the quarterbacks lately, but.

[B]

Right.

[C]

It just feels like this is going to be, I don't want to say a make or break game for Darnold, but like if they're going to be a legitimate super bowl contender, and they certainly are, this has to be Darnold overcoming some of the things that have plagued him in, in the last year, plus when he's been great. So if he has a great game here, count me as all in. If he has a mediocre game here, I felt still think they have a chance. If he stinks, then they're not ready to compete with the best of the best. And I think the Rams are one of the best of the best teams.

[B]

And then how many. There's, it's like a high number of turnovers for Darnold in his last few games.

[C]

Six in his last three.

[B]

Yeah, that's what that, that's what keeps me from being blind to all the other issues with Darnold because that's a pretty big issue. And those turnovers, if he's averaging two a game, and that includes, you know, a matchup against Washington where he was unbeatable, I, I, I like him. I don't love Him. I think he's got to get the ball out quickly. I, I do worry about this Rams pass rush which has suddenly gone missing. One of the games though. Like, Tyler Schuck was getting the ball out quick and he was beating the Rams that way. Ended up not mattering for the score of the game. The Rams crushed him. But Darnold, someone that's at best a reluctant start and not a top 12 quarterback.

[C]

I, I think, I think just this one thing with, with Darnold, like, was it 12 past times last week?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

And two fumbles.

[B]

That was just a weird game. Yeah.

[D]

178 yards and a touchdown on. On 12 past attempts. But he had a turnover. He had an interception and two fumbles. But look, the Rams on paper, they're allowing the ninth view as fantasy points. The quarterback. I'll tell you why I like Darnold and Dave, you have him at 12th or 13th. Jamie, you have him, I think 20th. Heath has him 22nd. I just think whenever he throws, he's been so efficient, so good. This offense is humming. Whenever he throws, it's. He does well. I liked Mac Jones last week because I felt the Niners wouldn't be able to run the ball back successfully against the Rams and the Rams would put up points. The Rams have very good run defense and they force you to throw. So I think the same thing's going to happen here. I don't think the Seahawks are going to run the ball that well against the Rams. But also it's not just like you say, the Rams have a good defense. They certainly do. But name me one good quarterback that hasn't done well against them. The only one is Daniel Jones. Jalen Hurt scored 35 and he was right. AD and I. Mitchell fumbled the ball going to the end zone. It could have been an okay game. Mac Jones scored 26 or more fantasy points twice.

[C]

It's three times. It's two games from Mac Jones and one game from Dale Hurt.

[D]

But they've played garbage. They played Stroud, Cam Ward, Daniel Jones, they did well. The Baltimore backup quarterbacks, Tyler Shuck. So Daniel Jones, the only quarterback that they've shut down. And Adonai Mitchell played a big hand in that. So I'm actually somewhat confident in. In Darnold.

[C]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like this, this is one of those games where. Which Darnold shows up. And I think the other part of this is, at least for me, where I have these guys ranked and I know it didn't work out for Drake. May. It just feels like this is such a great week for quarterbacks.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

I don't know if like 18 to 20 gets you even in the top 15. Right.

[B]

So how much upside does he have going over 20?

[D]

I'm going over 20.

[B]

Fair.

[C]

That's fair.

[B]

Are you going over 24?

[D]

We're talking about fantasy points and six point per passing touchdown leagues for Darnold. I'll go 22 to 23, so I'll take the under.

[B]

Yeah. You've just made the case for us now. I think 22 to 23 is completely reasonable. There are at least 12 quarterbacks you can look at and say they're getting over 23 with the same type of floor, maybe even a better.

[D]

I think he has 35 point. I think he has 35 point upside and I think nobody else would feel that way, but I see it could be a shootout. I think he has 12 point downside.

[C]

Right. But.

[B]

So let me. I can name you five other quarterbacks that have 35 point upside, but still 18 to 20 point floor.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

No, I'm not saying he's a top five guy, but I started it sounds.

[B]

Like you're making the case for him as a top 10 guy.

[C]

Look, he has, he has arguably the best receiver in the NFL right now. Right. I think we're gonna see what Rashid Shahid offers Cooper cup revenge game. You know, we have, we have a lot of things to play here that could help Darnold.

[B]

I think you're gonna see a lot of tight end targets in this game from both teams.

[D]

Okay, so who else are we starting in this game? Stafford's an obvious start. Adams, Puka, jsn, Kyron is a reluctant start.

[C]

There's only one obvious start for the Seahawks. It's just Jason.

[B]

Correct.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So Ken Walker or Charbonne, which one would you guys prefer?

[B]

Charbonnet.

[C]

I prefer Charbonnet also. But this is not the, the spot where you would expect Charbonnet to do well because the Rams keep running backs out of the end zone. And so he needs to score. He just hasn't done very much without scoring. But you wonder if they play Charbonne more just because of. You know, we had Robert Turban on with us yesterday and he said, you know, looking at the tape of what Seattle's doing, and it's kind of been the critique for Ken Walker since we've seen him in the NFL. You know, he's, he's hunting the big play too much and it's forcing him to miss some obvious ones. That could lead to big plays.

[D]

Who is it? Who is this about?

[C]

Robert Turbin said this is about Ken Watt. Oh.

[B]

And he's been.

[D]

That's the story of his career.

[C]

That's what I said. Right, right.

[B]

And he's been a big, you know, supporter of Kenneth Walker for as long as I can remember.

[D]

All right.

[B]

Yesterday was one of the first times he was like, yeah, not sure if I'm buying it anymore. Like, he thought he was just a sell for whatever you could get type of asset in fantasy.

[C]

Walker.

[D]

Okay, let's wrap up here with some chat questions. Darnold or Flacco?

[C]

Joe Flacco.

[D]

Yeah. Even for me. Walker. Spears, Tracy. Non ppr. Give me one. Ken Walker. Taji Spears. Tracy.

[C]

Still Walker.

[B]

I'll. Yeah.

[D]

Darnold or Tua?

[C]

Tua.

[B]

I've got Sam a spot higher.

[D]

Coram or Tucker?

[C]

Tucker. As of now, you're the same.

[D]

Charbonnet or Parker. Washington.

[B]

That's obviously going to change if Bucky Irving ends up playing.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Washington.

[B]

I don't think that will. Okay.

[D]

All right. Oh.

[C]

Oh.

[D]

This is a good question. Rams or Seahawks? DST.

[C]

Rams, I believe.

[B]

I have Seattle in my top 12, like at 12. And the Rams just outside.

[D]

Seattle's been pretty.

[C]

That one for me comes down to Darnold's turn the ball over six times in the last three games. And Stafford never throws picks.

[D]

Yeah. Seahawks, though. Seahawks have had one of the best DSTs in fantasy.

[C]

They have. But again, look who they played.

[D]

Well, they're good against the Niners. Great at Pittsburgh in Week 2. Terrible against the Bucks. They have not faced a lot of good offenses, though.

[B]

So they're. They're very good. They travel well. But, you know, Jamie said earlier that he doesn't think that Stafford's matchup proof. I. I kind of do. This passing game has been unreal against everybody.

[D]

Amazing.

[B]

So making that switch, going with Rams over the Seahawks. I get it. I think with the Darnold turnovers, that makes a lot of sense.

[C]

Now don't drop the Seahawks defense.

[D]

No, no. All right. Green Bay's at the Giants and stat of the game. In seven starts last year with Cleveland, a Browns pass catcher had 70 or more yards 10 times with Jameis Winston. So that's 10 times in seven games with Jameis they had 70 or more yards. So far this year, a Giants pass catcher has had 70 or more yards eight times in 10 games, less than what happened in seven games with the Browns last year. So hopefully this is good for. For the Giants pass catchers. Wanda L Robinson or A.J. brown.

[C]

Brown. Wondale. If Slayton is out.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Do you like Theo Johnson more than you usually would?

[C]

Yes, I think I'm.

[D]

I. I think I might start him over. Laporta. Is that crazy?

[C]

If laporta plays, I'm not that far off from you right now. And if Slayton's out, I'm going to do it.

[D]

Here's the thing. Jameis Winston has some huge games. He also has some terrible games, and this is arguably the best pass defense in football. They are best in yards per attempt, and they just made the Eagles look pretty silly last week. So I don't know if I can do it with Theo Johnson over Laporta, but I. All right.

[B]

Jamie? Yeah. How do you feel about Jameis checking down? Do you think he looks deep and then throws short because guys are covered, or do you think that he's going to throw deep no matter what?

[C]

No, I.

[D]

He's not going to throw deep. If the Giants don't have anyone, that's good going deep.

[B]

This is Jamis being Jamis. This is just a tendency that he's had his entire career.

[D]

How do you feel about that? Like Laporta injured against the Eagles versus Theo Johnson.

[B]

I've got Laporta higher as of now. If he's playing, I'm going to start him over. Theo Johnson. Johnson.

[C]

Satan's out. I'll take. I'll take the.

[B]

I. I get it. And I'm hoping that the targets will be there for him and that James leans on him. I don't.

[C]

It's.

[B]

It's such an interesting setup for Winston because they don't have anybody that can get open or even be on in. On 50, 50 balls downfield. That's kind of the case even if Slayton plays.

[D]

Are you excited to start anyone in this game other than Josh Jacobs, Wanda Robinson?

[C]

If Darius Layton's out.

[D]

No Dobbs and.

[C]

Theo Johnson of Terry Slayton, the Packers dst.

[B]

That's who I'd be excited to start.

[D]

Yeah, Jamie, it's just. I understand the enthusiasm. I'm just nervous about the matchup. They're so good.

[C]

Well, tight ends have done well against packers this season, so I don't. And Theo Johnson's coming off a game where he was highly targeted and did very well. And he's been good at finding the end zone this season since Jackson Dart took over. And this is a guy in terms of Jamis that will give him more opportunities because Jackson Dart was running. So I like the setup. Again, if Slayton's not There. And in the case of Wandell Robinson, you go back to the first two games that he played without Darius, without Darius Slayton dealing with the hamstring injury, concussion, excuse me. And Malik Neighbors was gone. The first game was great, was like 7 for 95 and a touchdown. You know, so we saw a little bit of a different Wandell Robinson that we're used to seeing. So they're gonna be. I mean, this, this is a 40.

[D]

Plus pass attempt game usually is with Jameis, right?

[C]

Yeah. And so it. While it may be ugly and there's going to be probably an interception or six, there's a chance that, you know, we get 10 plus targets for Wanda Robinson and 10 plus targets for Theo Johnson, you know, so, like, if you're playing dfs, Jalen Hyatt may be a good play this week because of, you know, Slayton potentially being out. And I love Slayton if he plays. I was, you know, very disappointed to see him missing practice with the hamstring injury and probably, like you said, going to be out because he's the type of guy that would be great for Jameis, you know, guy that can win down the field if he catches it. But yeah, gets open and. And so you're. You're banking on the targets being there for these guys because that's what Jamie is going to do. And, you know, go back to last year. Yes, he was great with David Najoku and, And Jerry Judy and those guys are great prospects.

[B]

That's fair.

[C]

What have they done without Jameis Winston?

[D]

Oh, but don't forget, like, Elijah Moore had some good games instead. It does, as long as he's throwing. So two games without Darius Slayton, Wanda Robinson scored 20 point. And without Malik Neighbors, Wanda Robinson scored 20.4 against Philadelphia and 15.5 at Denver. And he had 19 targets and six catches. And 19 targets on those two games. 12 catches, both games.

[B]

Much easier sell on Wondale, especially if it's full ppr.

[D]

So.

[B]

But thinking about Nijoku last year does that. That should lend optimism for Theo Johnson. I didn't think of that.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I just. Green Bay is really good, and Theo Johnson's usually 30 or fewer yard. 35 or fewer. I think he's been over that twice or something.

[B]

Right. But he could have seven catches for 35 yards.

[D]

He could. He had seven for 75 last week. Dave, talk to me about the packers real quick. Jordan, Love. Any interest in him?

[B]

No, unfortunately. I think this is a. If this is a get right spot for Green Bay, that means that they're going to try and run the ball a lot, but they will try some deep shots because they. They have to try and get Jordan Love back on track and. And try and have that connection with Christian Watson going. And this would be a much easier matchup for them to do that against. If the Giant secondary was still a mess. We talked earlier about some of the guys that could be back. Paulson Adibo with his knee limited in practice. Is there another defensive back that I wanted to bring up here?

[D]

Javon Holland's back. Cordell Flots back.

[B]

Right. So the secondary is getting a little bit better. I. I wouldn't care if it were a quarterback that had, like, demonstrated great passing already this year, but Love hasn't been able to do that consistently and certainly not lately. And so I'm. I would love to think that that's what the packers would do. I just know that their track record is. Let's run the ball. Let's. Let's keep it simple. Let's not attack downfield that much.

[D]

Okay, real quick.

[B]

So you're kind of hoping for a.

[D]

Big play from Watson, Dobbs or Watson? You're saying Watson?

[B]

I got Watson. One spot higher, but I get it with Dobbs.

[D]

Yeah, I'll take Dobbs or jmo.

[B]

I'll take Jameson Wyatt Dobbs. Or.

[D]

A Seattle running back. A Washington running back. A Giants running back. Okay. Any interest in Luke Musgrave?

[C]

There's just too many good tight ends right now. I think he's still worth stashing just to see if you can carry two tight ends. Because I don't want to use last week's game as the barometer of, hey, he's not going to do anything without Tucker Craft there because the Eagles are great against tight ends like this. Could. This could be a. A surprise game for him, so just keep that in mind.

[D]

Looking at some chat questions here. And there was one. Oh, just Tracy or Singletary. Who would you start?

[C]

Singletary.

[B]

I have Devon hire.

[D]

Okay. He got some chat questions. Let's see. Wandell Robinson, Chris Rodriguez or Tedro McMillan.

[B]

Wandale is a full PPR.

[C]

Half Wando for me. Easy.

[B]

It's still Wanda.

[D]

Blake Corum or Devin Singletary.

[C]

Singletary.

[B]

Yeah. Reluctantly.

[D]

No politics, please. In your avatars Wondale or jmo?

[C]

Wando.

[B]

I believe I have jam.

[D]

What if Jamie, you say Wandale. Dave says Jim. What if Slayton plays Wandale?

[C]

Regardless. To the moon with Wandale if Slayton's out.

[D]

Wondale or T. Higgins.

[C]

Please don't say that would be very close. Yeah, Darius Slayton is out, but I'll still go.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

I'll take T all the way.

[D]

Wondale or Quentin Johnston.

[C]

Wanda, regardless.

[B]

Quentin Johnston.

[D]

Dobbs or Juwan Jennings.

[C]

Wando.

[B]

Jawan for me.

[D]

Okay. And then too much.

[C]

Sorry.

[D]

I gotta go to the next one. All right.

[C]

Was it Sit two players.

[D]

Sit two players. Keenan Allen.

[B]

Too many. Too many question mark emojis. Adam's brain couldn't handle it.

[D]

Yeah. I should be talking Woody Marks more here because he's. He's a good guy to compare to these receivers. Sit.

[B]

I think I like the last two guys the best.

[C]

Marks and Franklin Wandale is the easiest one.

[B]

Oh, I gotta sit too.

[C]

And Marks would be the other one to start.

[B]

Reading is fundamental. I'm definitely sending Keenan Allen. I would sit Wando.

[D]

All right, we got two games left here. Start the packers dst, by the way, and don't start Jameis Winston. Sometimes he's great.

[B]

Sometimes he's absolutely super flex. In a super flex, if you're a little desperate, why not?

[D]

Yeah, I dropped Justin Fields for Jameis Winston last. Before last night's game. That was stupid. San Francisco at Arizona. Okay. It's always very frequently about pass attempts for San Francisco. Do they throw enough to make Juwan Jennings a must start guy or Brock Purdy or Mac Jones a good start. And with Marvin Harrison Jr. Out, are we concerned about that angle of it? Plus, this has been a very good pass defense. Arizona. So, Dave, how does the. We're going to start McCaffrey, obviously, but how does the 49ers pass the pass offense do against Arizona?

[B]

I wouldn't overrate them. I've got Joanne Jennings on the border of a number two, number three wide receiver. And he is my favorite one just because it's Pearsall's first game back. And I don't want to sink too much into Pearsall. So Pearsall to me is more of a number three receiver. For an ex. As an example, I do like Wondale better than Pearsall. And I kind of don't love Wandale this week. At least not as much as Jamie does. I. I think Kittle's still going to get his. I think that's going to be the easy guy for Purdy to lean on. And I think Christian McCaffrey is going to be an easy guy for Purdy to lean on. I would be shocked if they put so much on Purdy's plate. A, because I don't know if they have to, and B, because it's his first game back and they just want to make him make sure he gets through the game okay.

[D]

Arizona, I mean, they've only given up multiple touchdown passes in two games. Bryce Young and Daniel Jones are the only quarterbacks who did that. And Bryce Young, through 55 pass passes, Darnold had a bad game. He only threw 26 passes. Jordan Love had a bad game. Dak Prescott had a bad game. Darnold actually had two bad games. He threw 26 and 12 passes. So I don't know. I mean, should I really even consider Brock Purdy? Jamie, what does this mean?

[C]

You.

[D]

I know you like Juwan Jennings. What does this mean for Jennings and Piersol? I guess I'm just asking you the same question I asked Dave.

[C]

I think Purdy's just kind of in that group of quarterbacks and I may reevaluate it just in terms of comparing him to Tua and Mariota and Geno Smith and guys with just great matchups and, you know, again, how much will they want him to, you know, have to carry this game? And look, some of it is fluky. Like, if Sam Darnold had thrown the ball more last week, he was, you know, probably gonna have a big game.

[B]

Didn't have any possessions.

[C]

But again, they, you know, they do a good job of turning over quarterbacks. And so I'm starting McCaffrey, I'm starting Kittle. I think Jennings still is fine as number two receiver, even with Pierce all back. That's the one I would being most concerned about. Like, how much is Pierce all going to do in his first game back? Yeah. So, you know, I wouldn't overvalue any of those guys. Any of this. The. The second tier guys, you know, to me, McAffrey and Kittle are on different. Different tier.

[D]

Any wide receivers in this game, you'd start over Woody Marks, including Michael Wilson.

[B]

No, Jennings might be the only one I'd have to double check.

[D]

Okay, would you start Brock Purdy or Jacoby Brissette?

[B]

I have marks one spot ahead of Jennings in my PPR Flex rankings. I currently have Purdy ahead of Brissette. Brissette's one of those guys I have a tough time with.

[D]

How about the game in Spain? Mariota, Tua, Purdy, Brissette. Who's our favorite there?

[C]

I'm going to reevaluate that and put two ahead of him.

[B]

I have two ahead, but the, the guy that I might reevaluate is Brissette because he's, he's just. He has played well and about 20 of his numbers have come from Marvin Harrison, But I don't think that means that we need to expect a 20 point fantasy drop. This is still the 49ers that don't have much of a pass rush. Questionable secondary, like they can be beat even without Marvin Harrison Jr. On the field for Brissette. So he's the one I need to reevaluate.

[D]

They've allowed. The niners have allowed 23.6 or more fantasy points to a quarterback in five of their last six games. That is Matthew Stafford twice Baker Mayfield, C.J. stroud and Jackson Dart. So some tough, some really good quarterbacks in there. Michael Penix was the exception to that. He had a bad game, but yeah. And look, he's already played one game without Harrison. Harrison played about 20 of the snaps at Indianapolis. Jacoby Brissette threw 44 times for 320 yards, two touchdowns, an interception. He scored 24.7 fantasy points in that game. Trey McBride went berserk, which we expect to happen again. And Zay Jones had a good game. He's out. So now Michael Wilson's got a great opportunity. Greg Dortch has an opportunity. I assume you guys like Wilson better.

[B]

Yes. Over Dorch? Yes.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. But Dorch is not a bad flyer.

[D]

Who's a better flex, A Cardinals running back or Michael Wilson?

[B]

Wilson, if it's full ppr, maybe Wilson. Even if it's not, I may go.

[C]

Actually, I may go Dimmer Cardo if Zoning Knights have.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, if Knight plays, it gets muddy. But if, if Knight doesn't play. You know, D. Mercado has been breaking off these long runs and San Francisco, they're 21st against running backs. Would he. I mean, I think if night's out, I'm going to start Dmercado over the Giants guys, Right? Probably over Chris Rodriguez.

[C]

Seattle guys. Yep.

[D]

Seattle guys. What if Knight plays?

[C]

Then it's just probably hands off if you can afford to do so. Right.

[B]

But if they're trailing, that should lend itself to D. Mercado playing more because they trust some more pass protection. Catching the ball, passing down to work like that's been the role he's had.

[C]

He.

[B]

He had that role dating back to last year when James Connor was healthy.

[D]

Who is the number one wide receiver on the waiver wire? Parker? Washington. This week.

[C]

This week?

[D]

Yeah. Slayton Washington.

[C]

For me, it was. It was Watson with the potential of Dobbs being out, and then it was Slayton after him.

[D]

So if you had known that, if you had known Marvin Harrison were out, where would you.

[B]

He would have been up there.

[D]

All right, questions from the chat. Pick a flex. Oh, that was from last game.

[C]

Sorry. Where's.

[D]

My answer hasn't changed. Where are my new ones? Can we start Ricky Pierce all this weekend real quick?

[C]

If he lays.

[B]

If he like lays down on the field?

[C]

Probably not. I think the nose trip got bigger since the last question.

[D]

Yeah, we're kind of. Oh, here's one. Pierce all or Quentin Johnston?

[B]

Quentin Johnston.

[D]

How about Pierce all or Michael or Michael? Michael Wilson.

[C]

I probably go Pierce Other.

[B]

I think there's just more upside.

[D]

Purdy or Rogers? Rogers Rogers Purdy or Daniel Jones? Rest of season.

[C]

Pretty.

[B]

I'll say Purdy.

[D]

All right. Jones has two games left against the Jaguars, though. That's the one. Good.

[B]

Right.

[C]

But.

[B]

Right. Like the first thing I thought of was the. The two games that Jones has after his buy and I can't start him against the Chiefs or the Texans.

[C]

Party still has his buy too, though.

[D]

Pearsall or Manangai?

[B]

Yeah, it's not the buy I'm worried, it's the matchup.

[C]

I'm saying you're gonna lose him for a game. Okay.

[D]

Ricky Debo or Michael Wilson? Non PPR Deal. Debo Pierce. All right, sorry. Michael Wilson. Parker Washington or RJ Harvey or Slayton Harvey.

[B]

What's the format?

[C]

It doesn't.

[D]

It's got to be Harvey, right?

[B]

Yeah, probably. And then Washington would be the only other guy. But if all those other Jaguars receivers are playing I. E. Brian Thomas Jr. And Breton Strange, like if those guys are back, you can't feel good about Parker Washington.

[D]

So Harvey it is Purdy or Darnold rest of season.

[C]

I'll go Purdy.

[B]

I wanna. I feel like Sam is the answer.

[D]

Last two things here. Purdy is going to be playing through a toe injury for the rest of the year. He is not going to be 100 healthy. We'll see how that affects him. Pure Saw. I love what we saw from Pure Saw, but he did it basically without Kittle. And I hated his role. This is a guy who had an A.it was super high every single week. They never threw screens to him. They never. They pretty much never gave him any easy, what we call layups. Everything was downfield. I don't understand it. And it made for volatility. So I'm hoping that things change. I don't expect that they will, but I'm hoping for it. Last game, Carolina and Atlanta. Jamie go.

[C]

Start Rico Dowdle. Start. Ted Roll McMillan in three receiver leagues. That's it. Start Bijan Robinson. Start. Drake London Kyle Pitts is a borderline starter and Darnell Mooney should not be started. Michael Pennix has only started in super flex and two quarterback leagues.

[D]

I don't even think that Pitts is a tough call. Maybe Theo Johnson, he's been bad in.

[C]

His last two games. He struggled against Carolina in their first matchup. I just think knowing what the tight end position is, this is a guy you can pivot away from.

[B]

Yeah, bad track record against Carolina too. I've got him 14th and I feel like that's way too high.

[D]

Speaker 2 does have a 20% target share or better in four of five games with a healthy London and Darnell Mooney. So that's encouraging. Panthers are 26th against tight ends. You say you had a bad game. This, this was just the worst game of Pennix's career. Right. The first time they met.

[C]

True fair.

[D]

Penix was just horrible.

[C]

He's also not scoring touchdowns too.

[D]

No, he's a. He's a low ceiling guy. He's got one end zone target all year. Kyle Pitts three green zone, four red zone. He just gets a lot of short area catches and usually gets you 8ish points.

[C]

Oh, one guy. I forgot. Tyler Algier is not a bad sleeper.

[B]

Agreed.

[D]

Chris Rodriguez or Tyler Algier?

[C]

Rodriguez.

[B]

I guess.

[D]

Let's say Donovan Knight plays. Would you go Cardinals running back or.

[C]

Alger if Knight plays? Yeah, I go out here.

[B]

I would too.

[D]

I think I'd probably take a chance on DeMarcado.

[C]

Just.

[D]

I don't know about that. This could definitely be a game where Alger scores and Rigo Dowdle is a must start. So you'd start over at Barkley, I assume?

[C]

Yep.

[D]

All right. If we have any questions from the chat. I guess. One last thing on this game. No, forget it. I was going to make a case for Pennix because he has good games out of nowhere and Carolina usually is a good matchup. I think more McMillan. Real quick on McMillan. Let me get some running backs here. McMillan.

[C]

We were burned by the Falcons DST before. I certainly understand the trepidation to buy into them. And again, if you look at how this first game unfolded, clearly the Panthers DST was the better of the two options. But Bryce Young is struggling right now and they're at home. I think this is a good opportunity. Plus the Falcon schedule coming up is fantastic. So if you want to just look at their dst, if they play well this week, you'll buy into them next week also. So if you're stuck. Not a bad pivot. Play.

[B]

And as for McMillan, he only has two games this year with Bryce Young when he's had over 13 and a half PPR points. One came in a game where Bryce Young threw 55 times, that was against Arizona. And the other was his two touchdown game, that was against Dallas. And I, I think this Falcons pass rush is going to get in Young's face and I think it's going to make it hard for Young. I, I don't know. I don't see him throwing more than like 25 passes in this game unless the Falcons just absolutely just like crush them on the scoreboard in the first half.

[C]

He only has one game with a touchdown. It was two. It's against Dallas.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

And heard that somewhere. And eight PPR points for the season so far is eight PBR points for the first game. Again, didn't have to throw very much, but.

[B]

But that's the worry. Like there's no the talent is there with McMillan. I love watching him play, but he's just saddled with a quarterback that's kind of inferior.

[D]

McMillan or Vidal. PPR kind of.

[C]

I go Kamani.

[B]

I'd go Vidal.

[D]

I'd go whatever his middle name is. Tedro McMillan or Woody Marks.

[B]

Marks.

[D]

Marks. London or Abuka. Yes, go London. But that's tough.

[C]

I would go London too.

[D]

Tucker or Algier.

[C]

Tucker. If there is no Bucky Irving, RJ.

[D]

Harvey or Teddy McMillan.

[C]

Harvey.

[B]

I was thinking Trey Tucker there.

[D]

Harvey over chat David Montgomery or Tearla McMillan.

[B]

There we go. There's somebody that I would sit for. McMillan.

[C]

Okay, I'd go McMillan and PPR.

[D]

And I forgot about. And I don't have a stat of the game, but I have the alliteration of the game, which is the pathetically putrid passing performances. And just so you know, Bryce Young has thrown for combined 226 yards, no touchdowns, two interceptions in his last two games. He has thrown for more than 200 yards once in this entire season. And that is it for this game and for the week 11. Slate mailbag coming up. Join us for that. Thanks to Dave, thanks to Jamie, thanks to Emma for producing and we'll talk to you on the Mailbag and have a wonderful weekend. See you later.

[C]

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[A]

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