Start or Sit (NFC)! Eagles WRs, Bears RBs, Jauan Jennings, Jacoby Brissett and More (11/07 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Fantasy Football Today: Start or Sit (NFC) - Week 10 Decisions & Analysis

Date: November 7, 2025
Hosts: Adam Aizer, Dave Richard, Jamie Eisenberg

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Episode Overview

This episode of Fantasy Football Today is focused on "Start or Sit" advice for key NFC matchups in Week 10. Adam, Dave, and Jamie provide actionable analysis, player rankings, and debate tricky lineup decisions concerning high-profile wide receivers, muddled backfields, and emerging prospects. The episode covers news and injuries impacting start/sit calls, player-by-player debates (especially for Eagles WRs, Bears RBs, Jauan Jennings, Jacoby Brissett, and more), and rapid-fire mailbag Q&As.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Thursday Night (Denver vs. Las Vegas) Recap & Lessons Learned

• Offensive Woes: Hosts vent their frustrations about low-scoring Thursday night games and underperformers like Courtland Sutton and the weird usage of Broncos WRs (03:26, 04:54).
• Buy Low or Sell?
  • Jamie: Urges listeners not to panic on Sutton—“There's a buy low window here for Courtland Sutton. He's still too good and still going to get his targets” (04:26).
  • Dave: Counters that Troy Franklin’s usage and speed are edging him ahead in the Broncos pecking order. “Franklin has these opportunities to emerge as the main guy, and they're trying to make him the main guy. Bo Nix is leaning on him.” (05:11)
• Running Back Watch: On Ashton Jeanty, Dave advises to “try and turn him into a better player while he's delivering good fantasy point production” (07:33), but warns of O-line injury issues impacting future value.

Waiver Wire & Injury Updates (13:22, 14:51)

• News hits rapidly: Kyler Murray and C.J. Stroud are out, injury statuses for RBs and WRs updated.
• Key Takeaway: “James Cook returned to practice with the ankle injury.”
• TE Watch: If Harold Fannin misses time, David Njoku is a top-12 TE ("Absolutely." – Dave, 16:06).

NFC Home Game Matchups — Individual Game & Player Debates

Philadelphia at Green Bay (20:44–34:46)

• A.J. Brown Status: Practicing fully; “should be available for his regular allotment of routes. Good number two receiver” – Dave (20:44)
• Jalen Hurts: Range in rankings (Jamie: 9th, Dave: 4th). Consensus: must-start but not as elite as usual this year.
• RBs: Barkley, Jacobs clear starts, but not high-upside. “Jalen Hurts is QB4 per game… but a lot of weeks he's around 22, 23 points.” – Adam (32:12)
• Eagles WRs: Smith vs. Brown: “I like Smith the best of the three... I think he can make more explosive plays than AJ Brown” – Dave (33:10). Jamie prefers Brown.
• Dallas Goedert: Scary floor due to inconsistent targets; should only be started if you’re desperate.
• Romeo Doubs? Viable flex, especially if you need a floor.

Detroit at Washington (36:10–41:34)

• Lions’ Stars: Goff is a solid top-12 start given Washington’s defense (“Jared Goff is going to be good in this game… just because it's so easy for him” – Dave, 36:33).
• RBs: Jameer Gibbs/David Montgomery both strong RB2s; matchup favors pass-catching (e.g., Rashad White, Henderson) in PPR.
• Jameson Williams: Pure dart-throw, boom/bust. “If you were to tell me right now that Jameson is getting 4+ targets, he would be significantly higher.” – Jamie (40:22)
• Sam LaPorta: Must-start with upside—bad Washington secondary.
• Commanders Offense: Virtually no trust for non-deep-league options.

Giants at Bears (44:29–53:54)

• Top QB Streamer: Jackson Dart is a consensus start over Goff and even Hurts for Jamie.
• Bears Backfield: “Swift is a borderline top 12 running back. Manangai is a borderline number two, three running back.” – Dave (47:47)
• DJ Moore, Odunze, Wondale Robinson: All in play. Odunze draws high marks from both (would start over A.J. Brown).
• Wandale vs. Manangai: “Wandale. But that's close.” – Dave (57:06)

Rams at 49ers (57:09–61:28)

• Matt Stafford: “Must-start… on pace for monster season.”
• Kyren Williams: RB1 volume, but expectations tempered.
• 49ers WRs: Jauan Jennings a strong flex with high target share (24:25). “I would start him ahead of Debo in full PPR.” – Dave
• George Kittle: Holds onto TE1 relevance by a thread: “If you picked up Gadsden or Fannin… might have to start considering other options.” – Jamie (58:38)
• QB Situation: If healthy, lean Purdy over Brissett/Mayfield.

Arizona at Seattle (63:34–70:06)

• Sam Darnold: Solid QB2, “low-end starter… would expect a little better than 18.1 [points]” – Jamie (63:57)
• Marvin Harrison Jr.: Locked in as a strong WR2 starter.
• Kenneth Walker: Still considered a risky RB2; “Four straight games with single digit PPR fantasy points” – Adam (66:14)
• AZ RBs: Best to avoid, messy split.
• Trey McBride: Continue to ride; double-digit targets likely.

New Orleans at Carolina (71:34–77:17)

• Tedorro McMillan & Chris Olave: Back-to-back ranked WR2s. Volume concerns for McMillan; Olave a better bet in full PPR.
• Rico Dowdle: Clear RB1 in this matchup, universally top-7.
• Alvin Kamara: “I wouldn't even consider starting him… There's no argument for him.” – Adam and Jamie (76:11, 76:50)
• Juwan Johnson (NO TE): “Low-end number one tight end in full PPR. Target volume should go up.” – Dave (74:59)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Sutton/Franklin WR Split:
  “Franklin has these opportunities to emerge as the main guy, and they're trying to make him the main guy. Bo Nix is leaning on him.” — Dave Richard (05:11)
• On Bears RBs:
  “Swift is a borderline top 12 running back. Manangai is a borderline number two, three running back.” — Dave (47:47)
• Gadsden, Fannin, Loveland TE Mix:
  “Once you start to get to that tight end group... I'm just going to play the upside card and I think Loveland has more upside than that group.” — Jamie (52:28)
• On doubts about Kamara:
  “Bad offensive situation. He's not the young Alvin Kamara once was. He's not getting targets. Everything is going against what I thought would happen.” — Dave (76:51)
• Humor/Light banter:
  “What a shiitake burger of a game.” — Jamie (02:14)
  On Wandale Robinson: “You didn't talk about the best receiver.” — Dave (56:54)
  “My shoulders look like those dancing two balloons at the car dealership.” – Adam (75:40)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Thursday Night Recap & Sutton/Franklin WR Analysis:
  03:19–06:14
• Early News & Notes (Key Injuries):
  12:31–16:16
• Commanders D/ST as a must-attack:
  16:30
• Philadelphia at Green Bay (A.J. Brown/Hurts analysis):
  20:44–34:46
• Detroit at Washington (Lions RBs, Goff, Jamo):
  36:10–41:34
• Giants at Bears (Swift, Manangai, Wandale, Dart):
  44:29–53:54
• Rams at 49ers (Jennings, Kittle, Stafford):
  57:09–61:28
• Arizona at Seattle (Darnold, Marvin Harrison, Ken Walker):
  63:34–70:06
• New Orleans at Carolina (Olave, McMillan, Kamara):
  71:34–77:17

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Flow & Tone

The tone is energetic, humorous, and heavily debate-driven. The hosts blend actionable advice, statistical reasoning, and playful banter, making the episode engaging for listeners seeking an edge or just an entertaining breakdown of the fantasy week.

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Rapid Fire Sit/Starts: Host Consensus Highlights

• Must-Starts: Jalen Hurts, Barkley, Jacobs, A.J. Brown, Marvin Harrison Jr., Jared Goff (top 12), Kyren Williams, Rico Dowdle
• High-Upside Flex/WR3s: Jauan Jennings, Jamison Williams (deep), Wandale Robinson, DJ Moore, Odunze
• RB Questions: Both Bears RBs strong, but Swift > Manangai. Avoid Giants, Commanders, Cardinals RBs if possible.
• TEs: Trey McBride (smash), Kittle still TE1 but trending down; consider upside with Gadsden, Fannin, Loveland.
• DSTs: Start DET, SEA, Panthers, Eagles in favorable matchups.

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Summary Recommendation

This episode is essential listening before setting your Week 10 fantasy lineup, especially for NFC-heavy rosters and those debating between high-floor veterans and emerging options. The hosts' interplay, deep dives, and thorough context around recent injuries, trends, and defensive matchups provide a clear decision-making framework for every major NFC fantasy asset this week.

Transcript

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[Adam Rank]

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Dave.

[Adam Rank]

Richard, Jamie Eisenberg. Happy Friday, Dave.

[Dave Richard]

Yo, not for me. I have Corin Sutton on my team. That sucked.

[Adam Rank]

Dave, I don't want to hear it. You started Troy Franklin against me yesterday.

[Dave Richard]

I've got him on some of my teams too.

[Adam Rank]

Yes, Happy Friday. Jamie.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

What a shiitake burger of a game.

[Adam Rank]

Oh, dude, come on.

[Dave Richard]

I can't remember the last time I've had a delicious shiitake burger.

[Adam Rank]

Oh, gosh. Jamie is just.

[Dave Richard]

I don't even know if those exist.

[Adam Rank]

They probably exist. I remember getting a. Ordering a mushroom burger once, a portobello mushroom burger, and thinking, oh, this is going to be a cheeseburger with a big portobello mushroom on it. It was just a big fat mushroom. That was the burger. It was just a big mushroom with a bun. That was a really. It got ripped off there, like, when I drafted Cortland Sutton. All right, we'll start with that game, and then we will talk about six NFC home games, and they are Philadelphia at Green Bay on Monday night. That's an exciting one. Detroit at Washington, Giants at the Bears, Rams at the Niners, Arizona at Seattle. Ooh, the. The NFC west, big matchups. And New Orleans is at Carolina. Ooh, the NFC south, whatever. All right, let's start with Denver 10, Las Vegas seven. The Raiders lost both starting guards to injuries.

[Dave Richard]

The.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

That's why it was bad.

[Adam Rank]

The audience lost its dinner during the match, during.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

What was the worst part of the game? You had to pick one thing. Like, if someone came to you, an alien landed on. On. On Earth, and said, oh, this is the worst thing I've ever seen. Or tell me the worst thing you've ever seen in a football game. And you had to pick something from that game, what would it be?

[Adam Rank]

It was. Oh, easy. It was the throw where Pat Bryant started to go for it, pulled his arms back, and then it hit Franklin in the hands because he was distracted, and then it was intercepted. That was once a microcosm. The punts were terrible.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Okay.

[Dave Richard]

A lot of AJ Cole's punts that weren't blocked were pretty good.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

How about the. The third and one call. Let's do a reverse to court suddenly.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dave Richard]

That was great.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So stupid.

[Adam Rank]

That was really bad. So. All right. Yeah. Concerns about Sutton and. Or Bowers, Jamie.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, Bowers. Not really. No. That's just a great defense. And they get Dallas next week. So I have no concerns about anything Raiders related. Unless Gino Smith is actually hurt. In the case of the Broncos. I mean, look, Bonix is not playing very well. He's gotten lucky with some of his production and matchups, but, like, when you break it down, like, he's not making a lot of throws from the pocket and just. The offense feels off schedule a lot, and it's frustrating at times, but There's a buy low window here for Cortland son. He's still too good and still going to get his targets and opportunities at some point this season. So if you can get him as cheap as you possibly can, which is where he's at right now, I would do so.

[Dave Richard]

I don't know, man. 16 targets in his last three games to 27 for Troy Franklin. And it's another game where Franklin out produces him in a huge way. And you watch him, it's clear that Franklin's faster than Sutton. He's still making mistakes. He's still like the, like the tip pass. There was an interception. That's another play that'll make the alien run back to planet nine. I, I think that it's. He, he's got a shot. Like Franklin has these opportunities to emerge as the main guy and they're trying to make him the main guy. Bo Nix is leaning on him. It's not like Cortland Sutton's getting double teamed and he's, he's just inconsistent. I wish he were more consistent, but in the meantime, I think you've got to think of these guys ranked closer together. And I'm not sure if I can commit to Cortland Sutton being ranked higher than Troy Franklin moving forward because the targets haven't been there. He's not getting open as easily as Troy Franklin, and he's not even getting open as fast as Troy Franklin isn't. Franklin is out drawing him in targets. And I kind of saw this a couple weeks ago and I was like. And I, and I kind of thought. What you thought, Jamie. Like, ah, don't worry. It's Corland Sutton. He'll, he'll. He'll turn it around and he still might. But they're not the same type of receiver. And for what Denver needs right now, they need guys who can get open. And Franklin's doing a better job of that than Sutton at this point.

[Adam Rank]

Well, he's got more targets on the year than Sutton. 73 to 66. How about the red zone targets the last three games?

[Dave Richard]

It wasn't always that way. Yeah, well, I know some targets. What have they got?

[Adam Rank]

14 for Franklin, 5 for Sutton. Green zone targets, 7 for Franklin, 3 for Sutton. End zone targets 8 to 6 in favor of Franklin. And then how about targets at or behind the line of scrimmage? This is a staple of a Sean Payton offense. 18 for Franklin. He leads the team. 18 for Franklin at or behind the line of scrimmage, one for Sutton. So they're going to have to start connecting on some, some, you know, downfield throws with Cortland, Sutton. Jamie, I, I, you know, he's not, you're, you're absolutely. I agree completely. It's not going to be this bad. Um, but I thought last week was the buy low. You know, disappointing that it didn't happen this week, but horrible game. He was under, you know, he was under pressure a decent amount. Bo Nicks and what did he throw for? Like 150 yards. So gen, your thoughts on Genty. And keep in mind that both guards left with an injury, don't know the severity, and they have a long week obviously before they face Dallas next week, which is great. But Genti, you know, Dave, you kind of talked about inefficient. You call them a sell high because he's not running 19 carries for 60 yards and a touchdown, three catches for three yards. What are your thoughts there?

[Dave Richard]

I thought Genty was the main part of Las Vegas's game plan at the beginning and then once the guards went out, I don't know if the Raiders could really do much of anything on offense. I would still say that if you can sell high on Genty, you can, but it's not get him off your team. He's gross. It's try and turn him into a better player while his. While he's delivering good fantasy point production. It's just not where we drafted him. He's not giving us the production of what we drafted him for. And we, we talk about that Cowboys matchup as a really favorable one for him. Number one, who knows if the offensive line is going to be any good. We already know that Jackson, Powers Johnson isn't going to be back anytime soon. And it's realistic that the other guard, Parham might not play either. He had a high ankle sprain after the game. And number two, Dallas just got Quinn and Williams and for whatever it's worth, Logan, Wilson and Demar and Overshone is.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Going to be back.

[Dave Richard]

That defensive front can end up being decent if not good against opposing running games moving forward. So I can't look at that matchup and say, oh yeah, slam dunk. Ash and Genti, top 10 running back. I, I think that Dallas will give them quite a bit there, especially with Quinn and Williams teaming with Kenny Clark on that D line.

[Adam Rank]

All right. I don't know that there's much else to say here. We should probably just say something about Bowers. But dobbins. Dobbins was 79% started this week. It's just so frustrating. You know, he if he doesn't score, this is. Yeah. And this is what you're looking at. You just gotta hope that he's gone five straight games without a touchdown. He scored four times in his first five games and now zero times in his next five games. It's. He, it's very simple. He scores, he's gonna have a solid game. If he doesn't, he's gonna get you around nine fantasy points, basically.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

All right.

[Adam Rank]

And then is there any reason to think that Brock Bowers is not the number one tight end going forward?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Make the case. Go ahead, Jimmy.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Well, first off, Trey McBride's been amazing with Jacoby Brissette. So there's part of it, I think you look at the way the position is. This is kind of what my point was on, on Wednesday when I said he's a sell high candidate. Like, yeah, there's a lot of great tight ends here and that might have been his best game. So after you get past his best.

[Adam Rank]

Game, it better have been his best game. 40 something points.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, I hope. Because he could have another one like amazing. I don't think it will, but I mean, listen, you. You get past Dallas, the schedule gets brutal. You're still relying on Geno Smith, you know, and I know, like he's counter to this was we got 100 yard game from him in three quarters or whatever. It was the first half in New England in week one. Then he comes back from the injury after getting healthy. He looks like that. Like there's still a lot of options at this position. And so that I don't want to revisit that. But in any event, yes, he's going to be fine. Like you're going to start him every week. It's just there's going to be bad games. I mean, that's just the nature of most players. You just hope it's not as bad as this.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, Damn, man. Dude averages 23.5 PPR points in his last two games.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Do you know what McBride's averaging into three games with Jacoby?

[Dave Richard]

It's huge. He's got. It's been north of 15 ppr in each of those games.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's over 20.

[Adam Rank]

Oh, wow. Yeah. One of those games, Marvin Harrison left with a, with an injury and he went nuts.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

But you know, stop, don't age or that. That one.

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[Jamie Eisenberg]

He's after watching that game last night.

[Adam Rank]

I think so. I think so. All right, News and notes. Am I crazy, or do we still not know who the jets starting quarterback is going to be this week?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I don't think there's been official word given, so.

[Adam Rank]

Is insane. It's Friday.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Come on. All right.

[Adam Rank]

We don't know it's going to be there.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

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[Adam Rank]

Someone wrote us an email for the mailbag that's like, Dear Breathe right, and then three other brands, and I can't.

[Dave Richard]

What if.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

What if you and I show up on the mailbag tag wearing nose strips? Don't tell me.

[Adam Rank]

I would do it. I just don't have one.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Imagine if there was a store.

[Adam Rank]

I can't have America. I don't have time. I don't have time to go to the store.

[Dave Richard]

I really don't have time.

[Adam Rank]

No. I'm going to have about 40 minutes after I'm done editing to get the notes together for the next show and get on the air, and I don't have time to run to the store.

[Dave Richard]

It's like, could you make one in your house? Fine.

[Adam Rank]

Right. I'll do, like, a piece of paper.

[Dave Richard]

No. Or, like tape. Yeah, Duct tape. Or some black or blue colored tape. You just make a little strip and.

[Adam Rank]

You put it over your house.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'll do it.

[Adam Rank]

All right. Kyler Murray is on IR. He's out at least the next four games. C.J. stroud is out. And Brock Purdy. We still don't know. He's been limited in practice.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Everybody's telling you good doordash to get one.

[Adam Rank]

I'm not door dashing to get a nose strip. That's insane.

[Dave Richard]

Cost you like 27.

[Adam Rank]

I know, exactly.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Expensive, expensive.

[Adam Rank]

I remember one year I asked if I could expense one of the Halloween costumes that I wore and I got like a very. You can do it this time. But I'm not happy about. It was weird. I was like, really? I thought you'd be cool with that. So, no, I'm not expensing a 27.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You know what Nando used to expense?

[Adam Rank]

No.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Geez.

[Adam Rank]

All right. Sorry. Running back Ramon Dre Stevenson missed practice again, so it could be a Trayvon Henderson day. Aaron Jones was limited, so he looks like he's going to be playing. Rico dowdle was limited. DeAndre Swift and Kyle Menangai practiced in full so they look like they're good to go and we'll talk about that game soon. Quinte. John Judkins good to go. James Cook returned to practice with the ankle injury. That was good to see.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So probably I haven't dropped so many a player so many times like I did Ray Davis yesterday.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah, I didn't drop them yet. Just. Just in case. But I understand if people are dropping Ray Davis, we're not expecting Bucky Irving, we're not expecting Trey Benson. Nick Chubb went from not practicing to limited. Saquon Barkley practice in full. That's great. Jakori Crosby merits back and the Chiefs apparently are optimistic that Isaiah Pacheco will be back after the bi week according to espn. Let's see, wide receiver Puka is going to play Brian Thomas Jr. Probably not going to play Terry McLaurin not think he's probably not going to play A.J. brown practice in full. Excellent news there. We might get. What's that Dave?

[Dave Richard]

Nothing.

[Adam Rank]

We might get Matthew golden and Don Tavian Wicks this week. So those guys were limited in practice. K Sean Booty missed practice again. Chris. Chris Godwin is likely out until at least late November. So did that change anyone's thinking on Tez John Just the long term outlook for Tez Johnson. Kate out and et cetera.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Jamie Absolutely. I mean this was the no thing we talked about on the waiver wire when Mike Evans first got hurt. And how much did you spend on Tess Johnson? There's the potential upside of Godwin not returning until after their buy and spend as much as you need to on a guy that could be a long term ad or there was the risk of Godwin coming back post buy and so here we are. So I think anybody that dropped him, hopefully you're able to pick him back up. Anybody that held on to him is pretty happy about that. It was just a gamble and so the gamble to, you know, spend fab on him and hold on to him has paid off. Okay.

[Adam Rank]

And let's see what else Roma Dunese and DJ Moore practice. They should be good. A couple of deep league guys. Well, I can't say Isaac Tesla but apparently they want to get him more involved.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Luther Burton, don't forget to design Bears.

[Adam Rank]

Oh yeah, he practiced in full. Devon Vale for the Saints. There's they said they want to get him more involved rest of season. Oh, how about Harold Fannin missing practice with a hamstring injury. Big news, David. Let's check the roster percentage for David najoku.

[Dave Richard]

It's about 50%.

[Adam Rank]

It's up to 61 now.

[Dave Richard]

It's about 61%.

[Adam Rank]

So people reacting to that. Is he going to be a top 12 tight end if Fanon is out?

[Dave Richard]

Absolutely.

[Adam Rank]

With Cole commit practicing in full, would you go into Joku or if Fan is out, Najoku or Loveland?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Najoku.

[Dave Richard]

I think I'm going to Joku anyway.

[Adam Rank]

All right. And then I'm going to skip the other stuff here except is there Dave, I'll throw this to you. Is there a defense that's particularly injured or any defenses that are injured that you want to highlight for fantasy purposes?

[Dave Richard]

Commander's defense is a total mess right now. So start your Lions and feel really good about that. There's probably some others if you. If we roll through the show I'll point them out.

[Adam Rank]

Well, the Colts have or have two defensive like sauce is going to play but two starting defensive linemen I think for the Colts are out. Is that a big deal?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Buckner's out. That's huge.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah. I don't know about Abu Kane.

[Dave Richard]

Literally.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah. Is that a big deal or no?

[Dave Richard]

Go ahead, play yourself.

[Adam Rank]

No, Now I hit the rug. Is that Dusty style? Oh no, wait. We started over Dusty style. Speedy walk. Ja. The Falcons get cold. That's terrible. Football in Deutschland. Ja. Das is dask skilled evoke. Hey, I swear the translation's different this year. I don't know. I really botched that.

[Dave Richard]

Is this really your game of the week?

[Adam Rank]

Maybe it is.

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Colts.

[Adam Rank]

Falcons. It's a good game. Oh man. Sorry. All right, we'll take a break and have a new host when we come back on fantasy football today.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

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[Dave Richard]

I yeah I think you have to be. I like that he's practicing in full should be available for his regular allotment of routes hopefully the targets will be there. Playing his own team he usually doesn't get as many targets against zone as he does man but I still think he's a good number two receiver okay.

[Adam Rank]

And Detroit's at Washington another receiver question we'll throw a running back in there too Jamie Rank, Jameson Williams, Debo Samuel and David Montgomery.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

What scoring let's go.

[Adam Rank]

With half PPR JMO Debo Montgomery Montgomery JMO Debo JMO Debo Montgomery is like a worse Is Montgomery a worse version of Dobbins? Feel like he is?

[Dave Richard]

No he scores touchdowns but even when.

[Adam Rank]

He scores he we scored in four games I think two of them were big games because he had a long run against Baltimore and he had that crazy game against Cincinnati with 18 carries and a passing touchdown. The other two games spend like 12ish 13 points the I don't know it's a fair comp yeah but yeah not as many total yards because he only gets 12 carries a game it was.

[Dave Richard]

More catches this year JK Dobbins or David Montgomery?

[Adam Rank]

Montgomery I don't know the answer Giants are at the Bears how are you approaching Jamie the Bears running backs?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I would start them both if you need to they're both top 20 running backs for me Swift ahead of Manangai by a couple spots I don't think.

[Dave Richard]

It'S a couple spots it should be a bunch of spots but I do like them both. I'd be a little nervous about just how much work manang guy is going to get but you can't help but notice over their last two games together they played a very close amount of snaps like DeAndre Swift slight majority in terms of snaps but a little bit bigger of a majority. Let's call it somewhere between like five and eight touches ahead of Kyle Manungai I don't mind Manangai this week if you're struggling a little bit at running back but Swift to me is awesome. Montgomery and dobbins who has more catches. You both said Montgomery, huh? You are both correct. 13, 11. 13 to 11.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Good thing it wasn't a tie.

[Dave Richard]

Rams mushroom reference. If it was a tie.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No, much worse.

[Adam Rank]

Rams are at the physical time. Rams are at the 49ers. Do we like Dave? Do we like Juwan Jennings?

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, he's not bad.

[Adam Rank]

I'm gonna try when we get to the. Yeah, I'll do it right now.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, okay.

[Adam Rank]

I'm gonna try to convince you on. On Juwan Jennings. All right, let's see.

[Dave Richard]

Keep in mind that I've already got him as a high end.

[Adam Rank]

Flex target share. Last three games, 29.2%, 22.6%, 21.7%. But they just haven't been throwing the ball a lot. Mac Jones, in those games, 30 or 26 pass attempts, 32 and 24, they ran the ball all over Atlanta. The next game was at Houston. That's a tough matchup. And then they ran the ball over the Giants. The rams, they allow 3.8 yards per carry to running backs. They haven't allowed a rushing touchdown to a running back, as Jamie says, every time. And they score a bunch of points. So I'm thinking we actually could get 35 or more pass attempts from whichever quarterback it is. You give me a 20, 20% or more target share. We're talking seven or more targets. And I think. I think good, you know, good opportunity here for Juwan Jennings.

[Dave Richard]

Completely agree. I would start him ahead of. We talked about Debo a minute ago. I would start him ahead of Debo and full ppr. Khalil Shakir, I have him ahead of DJ Moore. I still feel good about that. As of now, the Bucks receivers outside.

[Adam Rank]

Of Abuka, actual game of the week. Yeah, the Rams at the Niners. Not that game in Germany. Hey, this is the game of the week. Yeah. All right. Sorry about that. With a legit.

[Dave Richard]

Why do you apologize after you do it?

[Adam Rank]

It was a legit thought about Juwan Jennings. It wasn't just an elaborate.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, right, right, right. The one thing I was going to add is when the week started, I didn't want to, like, chase what he did last week. We talk about it all the time. When a player has a big week, fantasy managers just generally try. Tend to gravitate toward those guys because they saw them do well, they think they're going to do it again. And he was not good in the four games prior by. In a long shot, but I think volume will be there. I actually think it'll be a Little better for him if it's Brock Purdy instead of Mac Jones, but he's been playing well. Looks like the number one target there among wide receivers. Kittle has not been as involved as we'd like to. Well, Joanne, this is a high end number three receiver as a flex play. I'm good with it.

[Adam Rank]

All right, Jamie Arizona's at Seattle. Is Marvin Harrison Jr. A must start?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yes. I think you just have to look at again what we're dealing with for this week, who's out and what he just was able to accomplish with Jacoby Brissette starting. Remember, he's played a game and a half with Jacoby Brissette prior to last week and then looks awesome. Clearly matchup was fantastic. But I think you just have to say at this point, solid number two is here.

[Adam Rank]

A.J. brown or Marvin Harrison.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Marvin Harrison, I agree.

[Adam Rank]

Oh, interesting. Okay, and then New Orleans is at Carolina. Who do you like better, Tetero McMillan or Chris Olave?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

McMillan by like a spot or two.

[Dave Richard]

I've got a lot of a one spot higher in full PPR.

[Adam Rank]

All right, Heath has Olave, I think 12th, something like that. You guys are closer to 20th Sunday.

[Dave Richard]

He's a number two receiver. Should get a lot of volume. Not the toughest matchup in the world. Saints should be trailing. It's kind of easy to figure this game out.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah, that's why it's last. And Bryce Young, by the way, six straight games with 30 or fewer pass attempts. Four of those games, 25 or fewer pass attempts. This is a power run team. When they can be, they just. This is what they do.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

They will be.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah, they will be. All right.

[Dave Richard]

This game right now, if you really wanted to, that's okay.

[Adam Rank]

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[Jamie Eisenberg]

No.

[Dave Richard]

Nope.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Okay.

[Adam Rank]

All right, what are we thinking here in terms of the score? You know, are we. Is 46 is the total, which is high, but it's not super high or anything. You know, Jamie, I think we, we want pass attempts right Are we going to get that in this game?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Foreign it's hard to say based on how these two teams operate. They both want to be very slow and methodical and they do have good defenses. While they're not great DSTs, they've got a good defenses. You know, the Eagles are going to try and establish the run because that's what they've either tried to do or had success doing it. Like we saw against the Giants and for the Packers, I mean, look, they just lost their best receiving threat. You said Matthew golden and Dantavian Wicks are trending in the right direction. So the receiving core is going to be healthy. But is that what they really want to do to Jordan Love? Because when they've been their most successful, it's been when his past times have been under 30. So I think unless the hope would be is that the Eagles come out and score however they do it and the packers are chasing points and then we get a little bit more of a competitive game as it goes on. But I wouldn't, I wouldn't anticipate this going much over the total. If it does go over, I'm taking.

[Dave Richard]

Back what I said. I like the Eagles defense. Jalen Phillips is there. That improves their pass rush. Nolan Smith's healthy, Jacorian Bennett's healthy. So at least they're getting a little bit deeper at cornerback. At least they've got options in case one guy gets burned by a Christian Watson deep ball or a Matthew golden deep ball.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

They all two corners.

[Dave Richard]

Just kidding. Matthew golden isn't going to get a deep ball. They did. Michael Carter is their new slot corner. He's burnable. Why am I blanking on the other guy?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

They added.

[Dave Richard]

Jair Alexander. Maybe he ends up playing revenge game for J.R. alexander. That would be something. But I, I ultimately, I've seen it enough to know that when Jordan Love is pressured, he's not nearly as good. The metrics are terrible. His completion rate is below 40%. So I, I think that's what the Eagles are going to try and do. It doesn't mean they're going to blitz a lot, but their pass rush got better just by adding Jalen Phillips. So they'll rush four, they'll play his own behind and it, it could end up being kind of messy for Green Bay.

[Adam Rank]

So I guess what I'm asking is it's weird in a, in a Philadelphia Green Bay game with all this talent and you even think about Barkley before, what he was before he faced, you know, the layup. That is the Giants or Tank Bigsby and Brian Robinson ran all over them recently. Jacobs has had a lot of tough matchups this year and usually he's in about the 14 to 15 point range. Is there a single player in this game that you're fired up about you thinks they have a really good game?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No. Jalen, what do we say? What were the three categories?

[Adam Rank]

Sit. Reluctant start and excited start, I think.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah. So this is the. These guys. A lot of these guys are between start and reluctant start or must start and reluctant start.

[Adam Rank]

Well, must start. Okay. Dave, you have Hertz fourth. That so that's a big.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I think he could be very good.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

All right.

[Adam Rank]

And Jamie, you have ninth.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah. I mean that's kind of where he's been most of the season, you know.

[Dave Richard]

And there isn't a human on the planet that's reluctantly starting Barkley or Jacobs.

[Adam Rank]

Well, you could start doubt all over them.

[Dave Richard]

That's true. And I would.

[Adam Rank]

You're not going to start Swift or Manangai over them, are you?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Definitely not over them.

[Dave Richard]

Yes. I, I'd be down for that or the opposite. If Manangai were out somehow and Swift were starting, I'd start Swift and I could see, I could see a way where Swift outperforms them. No, I'm not ready to rank it that way.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I actually I, I like Judkins better than both.

[Dave Richard]

We had seen more from Judkins and if his shoulder were healthy I'd be completely on board with that.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

What, what haven't you seen from Judkins?

[Dave Richard]

I've seen the Brown. First of all I've seen Judkins like even in the games where he's had three touchdowns the rushing efficiency has been great. We know his shoulder isn't 100. We know that they've got other.

[Adam Rank]

We don't know that his shoulder isn't 100%.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I don't, I don't think it is.

[Adam Rank]

Well we don't know that though.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean we have to go by these healthy.

[Dave Richard]

That's fine. But it expect. Could Judkins go out and have 150 yards and two touchdowns?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean this is also a guy that had back to back good games against the packers and the Lions.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah. You can make the case. I like them all.

[Adam Rank]

Okay. And then Jamie, you know it's interesting. Jalen Hurts is QB4 per game in 6 point per passing touchdown leagues. He's not really getting his due but a lot of weeks he's around, you know, the 22, 23 point range. So I understand what you're saying he's a solid start.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, nobody's sitting him. I don't think anybody went to the waiver wire to say I have to replace Jalen. Hurts for this week. Right.

[Dave Richard]

No one's getting Mariota.

[Adam Rank]

There's a lot of really exciting quarterbacks. You know, they're golf. Caleb Dart.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Stafford should have had one last night and he didn't perform well.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah, but these guys are good. No Hertz. Sorry, Nick's. I didn't mean to take a shot at him like that. All right, so. So Hertz again. 9th for Jamie, 11th for Heath, 4th for Dave Barkley is a start. He's around 10th in the rankings. Jacobs is pretty close to that. How would you start Romeo Dobbs over either of the. Of the packers of the Eagles receivers?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I was starting over Smith with Brown playing us.

[Dave Richard]

I actually like Smith the best of the three.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

His targets have just been incredible and in two of those games he's been very good. So the. If. If the expectation is they're chasing points and now there's no Tucker Craft like he's gonna get eight plus targets.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah. Dave, why do you like Smith better than Brown?

[Dave Richard]

I just, first of all, just the fact that he's running against zone versus man. I think that that helps. Smith can be at any type of coverage. I think he can make more explosive plays than AJ Brown. So we take the shot on him over Brown.

[Adam Rank]

Okay. And then Luke Mus. Luke Musgrave or Dallas Goddard.

[Dave Richard]

Got her.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Got it.

[Adam Rank]

The Eagles are really good against tight ends. But there has only been one game all year where all three Eagles pass catchers have scored double digit PPR fantasy points. And it happened when Dallas Goddard had a 33 yard touchdown catch that gave him I think 10, 10.3 PPR fantasy points. He had one catch on two targets. So one of them is not. Is going to disappoint. The packers have struggled against tight ends. Dallas Goddard his target share. I mean it's. He's scary. He better score. Cause usually he's you know, 16 or lower in target share. All right. Jordan Love is 17th for you guys. Mario to her Love.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Mario.

[Dave Richard]

Who do I have ranked higher? I have Love right higher.

[Adam Rank]

Looking at chat questions. Goddard or Loveland? A.J. brown or Let Me or A.J. brown or Travion Henderson assuming Stevenson were out.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

A.J. brown.

[Dave Richard]

Pretty sure I have Brown.

[Adam Rank]

Hire A.J. brown or Rashad White?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

A.J. brown. Brown. A.J.

[Adam Rank]

Brown or Quinn? Sean Judkins PPR. All right.

[Dave Richard]

And you got me thinking about Quinn Sean now.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah. This is when Quinn. Sean usually does well.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right.

[Adam Rank]

Good match.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

There was one of the Browns beat writers said yesterday, like the Browns are making it very clear he's going to be the focal point of their offense. The jets, prior to the Quinn and Williams trademark, they allow 136 rushing yards per game. They just lose Quinn and Williams. I mean, this just feels like a Judkins game. Like if I knew he was healthy. 100. Because obviously Dave has a point that there may be some concern, but when I have to make the decision on the start of the week, like this was the guy I was hoping to use.

[Adam Rank]

I got a couple of Dobbs questions here. Dobbs or Juwan Jennings?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Dobbs.

[Adam Rank]

I have.

[Dave Richard]

Dobs are.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah, I mean, they're similar, but Dobbs has just been better. Gadsden, Kamani Vidal, Romeo Dobbs or Garrett Wilson. Oh, so Wilson.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right, Wilson.

[Adam Rank]

All right, what about the other three? Gadsden, Videl, Dobbs. Who would you take there?

[Dave Richard]

I. I have Dobbs one spot ahead of Gadsden in my full PPR flex ranks.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

All right. Yeah, Dobbs would be a choice.

[Adam Rank]

Okay, we're going to our next game. It's Detroit at Washington. It's tough to come up with a stat of the game for this, but it has been mentioned that Zach Ertz has been pretty bad with Marcus Mariota. And I just want to point out that all of the three teams that Zach Ertz faced with Mariota are currently top seven against tight ends, so that's fair.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Las Vegas, Atlanta and Kansas City.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah. So I just thought again, look, kind of grasping it's for straws here, but.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I got one for you. The commanders in the last three weeks are number two in most fantasy points allowed to opposing wide receivers.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah, this is it. This is the best. This might be the best matchup.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Now, if this was in Detroit, Jared Goff will be my number one quarterback.

[Dave Richard]

It could be on a high school field in Iowa City. Jared Goff is going to be good in this game. He might not be number one good, but he's going to be good just because it's so easy for him.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah, it's the worst pass defense in football. You know, on a per attempt basis, there have been a lot of quarterbacks. Three quarterbacks have scored 24.9 or more fantasy points with 31 or fewer pass attempts. So you just don't have to throw much against them. Like Sam Darnold killed them last week and they're even more injured than they've been. The only issue is they may not score A lot of points. So that's why they're not quite Dallas.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right.

[Adam Rank]

Because you're not going to get into shootouts with Washington. But golf, you guys have. Jamie has him 10th, Dave has him 12th, Heath has him seventh. So we like Jared golf this week. We like Jameer Gibbs, David Montgomery. All right, so how about that Patriots, Patriots, Bucks game, right where you got these replacement running backs, assuming Ramondre and Bucky are out. Rashad White, Sean Tucker, Travion Henderson, Terrell Jennings. Where would David. Where would David Montgomery slot in? Jamie amongst those guys?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You confused me there because I thought you said Dave. I did.

[Adam Rank]

First, my bad.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

In ppr, I would go with Henderson and White over Montgomery because I think both guys are going to catch a lot of passes this week. And non ppr, Montgomery over both because I think Montgomery will score. Those guys have been a little bit allergic to the end zone and half ppr. I would probably go with the Patriots Bucks guys just because the receptions.

[Dave Richard]

Only thing I'll disagree on is Rashad White. I do think he'll catch the ball a lot. I don't know how effective he'll be as a runner, whether or not he'll score. Patriots run defense is really good, so I'd be surprised if Rashad White was able to break them for a bunch of big runs.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, I. I totally agree. This feels like. I forget which game it was, but he had a 41 yard rushing game. I think it was Seattle had a 41 yard rushing game and scored in that game. But I think he had four catches. Like this feels like that type of game for him. You're hoping that he finds the end zone. But I do think. I mean, you look at the Patriots, we talked about this yesterday. Their last 4. 4 games, they've allowed 32 receptions to running backs. And if there's ever an opportunity for Rashad White to be involved in the passing game, it's this week.

[Dave Richard]

Do you have the numbers on what Rashad White's done catching the ball? Like how many PPR points has he got?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

His PPR points?

[Dave Richard]

His PPR points. Rashad White.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Adam Rank]

All right, so what? Just since the. Since Bucky Irving injured or whatever that is, that's your four for 30, three for 21, four for six and two for 26.

[Dave Richard]

Seven. Five. Four, four.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah. All right.

[Dave Richard]

I wish it was a little higher. I wish I had a Maserati.

[Adam Rank]

All right, so it's definitely like you.

[Dave Richard]

Could see a pretty easy path for Rashad white to get 10 PPR points.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Adam Rank]

But we're on.

[Dave Richard]

Anderson, we're on. We're on.

[Adam Rank]

Detroit, Washington here.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I know. I brought it back.

[Adam Rank]

Okay, start us at Jameson Williams again. Amazing. Great matchup here. You guys have them outside the top. Yeah. Right around 36. So behind Dobbs, behind Jennings, stuff like that. It still feels like a big gamble with JMO to you guys.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, I mean, look, he. He hasn't had a lot of consistent targets. It's a great matchup. He could obviously just make one play like we saw against the Vikings last week. And, and you're not your. Your production save. There's a lot of. I'm a lot of guys. There's several guys this week that kind of fall into a similar boat for me that are going to be big play dependent. You hope that they score. Tez Johnson, I think you can count on his targets being there, but I think he's going to be a big play dependent. Darius Slayton has had two big plays that he should have had to last two weeks opportunity against a Bear secondary that's given up big plays. So there's a chance there. And then Jameson Williams is another guy, I guess, you know, you want to take it even further. A little bit higher end. But Quentin Johnston, you know, just these guys that are going to be big play dependent with the opportunities to make them. So if. If you were to tell me right now that Jameson is getting four plus targets, he would be significantly higher even just on that number alone.

[Adam Rank]

Okay, Sam Laporta, you guys have a start. I think it'll be interesting. Last week I talked about how he does really well against zone, and the Vikings were a heavy zone team. Washington is a heavy man team.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right.

[Adam Rank]

But Travis Kelce is also someone who's much better against zone than man and he had a huge game against Washington, so.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, yeah, there was a busted play where he was able to get open.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

For like this secondary so bad. Like you just want to start guys against them.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

[Adam Rank]

Gadsden or Laporta?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'll take Laporta this week.

[Dave Richard]

I've got Gadsden higher.

[Adam Rank]

All right. For Washington, really just.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

And we're done.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I do think Mariota is going to have the chance to make plays with his legs here. We've seen two of the last four quarterbacks against this defense score rushing touchdowns. So he's got 88 rushing yards in his last three games. It's not going to be pretty. He's not a mustard guy by any stretch, but if you need a quarterback this week, he's not a bad Pivot.

[Adam Rank]

Play question for this game, Videl or jmo?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I take a chance with Jamo.

[Dave Richard]

I think I would too.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

As a matter of fact, I'm doing that in a league. I had had a choice of who to play at flex and yesterday setting the lineup benched by Dal went with Jamo.

[Adam Rank]

All right, well, what if it were Videl versus Debo Samuel?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'd go Vidal.

[Dave Richard]

I'd go Debo.

[Adam Rank]

All right, Debo. One positive for him is he has a target share of 20 or better in all but one game last week they threw 22 passes. Hopefully they can throw a little bit more this week. He's just, he has three targets in his last three games of 10 or more air yards. It is all short stuff and he's not doing the yak stuff that we're used to seeing from him.

[Dave Richard]

Nope.

[Adam Rank]

And then Ertz is a sit for you guys. Heath has him 14th. You guys have him 21st and 19th on Zach Ertz. And it's just been a struggle. I mean, and I'm not even going to ask about the running backs because we are not starting the running backs. Dave and I talked about a couple of deep league running backs to stash just in case Dave had said Sean Tucker, which is a great call. I said I don't really believe this, but Chris Rodriguez, just maybe they're going to him again. It's, it's like a Hail Mary. But he was better than Bill last week and I think he, he might get the goal line stuff. He might. I want to Take a Detroit's DST is 8th for Jamie and 2nd for Dave. So you can start Detroit's DST if you are so inclined. We are going to take a break and come back with the Giants and the Bears, which is a fun one for Fantasy. We'll be right back. Mint is still $15 a month for premium wireless and if you haven't made the switch yet, here are 15 reasons why you should. One, it's $15 a month.

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[Dave Richard]

Good luck.

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[Adam Rank]

Giants at the Bears Dave, you and me, baby. Bragging rights.

[Dave Richard]

No, I'm not a Bears fan. Okay, well if you want I will call up my son and you and Ryan can have a bet on the game. He is somehow still a Bears fan.

[Adam Rank]

I already have a a future bet. I think it might be next. It's coming up with Chad Smith of the Red Hot Chili Peppers of Giants at the Lions and I think he gave me 13 points so that's good. This bears are four and a half point favorites, basically gave it away.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Very good.

[Adam Rank]

Yes. And being a Giants fan, a lot of scar tissue on that. So anyway, let's talk about this game. Who's your favorite quarterback in this game?

[Dave Richard]

Jackson Dart.

[Adam Rank]

Jackson Dart of the week, as Jamie would say. Would you start both of these guys over? Jared Goff?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yes, yes.

[Adam Rank]

As of now, I think a storyline in this game is the Giants injury report because this really they weren't that bad of a defense until midway through the Denver game when Paulson Adibo and Javon Holland got hurt. Then the next week, Cordell Flot, another starting corner, he got a concussion. Well, they're starting to get a little healthier. Flots Flat looks like he's gonna be back. Holland's been limited, not gonna get a debo this week. So I so this wasn't the layup that it's been since Bo Nix and Jalen Hurts had Great games and Mac Jones had like 115 passer rating or something. So does that, Dave, does that matter to you as you look at Odunze and DJ Moore and Caleb Williams?

[Dave Richard]

A little bit. I think Adibo is the one who is. Is the best corner that the Giants have. And if he's playing that, that hurts the matchup a little bit.

[Adam Rank]

But he's not gonna play the way.

[Dave Richard]

That, the way that Chicago's been rolling right now. I just feel like you can have confidence even though Dun is coming off of a donut, like you can have confidence in him to bounce back. DJ Moore to at least get you double digits in ppr. The run game should be good and Caleb Williams should be able to make plays as well.

[Adam Rank]

Okay, so how would you rank the four relevant wide receivers in this game?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Oh, Dunes. 1. Wand. 2. Slayton. 3. More. 4.

[Dave Richard]

I'll take more over Slayton.

[Adam Rank]

Okay. And we're gonna sit the Giants running back. Would you start a commander's running back or a Giants running back?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Both.

[Dave Richard]

Giants.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Giants running backs over a commander's running back.

[Adam Rank]

But we're going to want to sit them if we can and. Yeah. So let's talk more about Swift and Manangai here. Dave, you think it's not that close, right? You said there's bigger gap between Swift and Menangai.

[Dave Richard]

Do you? I just think that Manon guys played great and last week he took advantage of a fantastic matchup and he was really good. And this is another really good matchup. Last three games, Giants have allowed 6.1 yards per carry to opposing running backs. So it should be awesome. But he's not going to get the same type of workload. So I. I would imagine that both running backs will have awesome efficiency. I am not totally convinced that Manangai is the goal line guy. He could be, but I would take my chances on Swift ahead of Manangai. Swift is a borderline top 12 running back. Manangai is a borderline number two, three running back.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

And Jamie, I just have a little bit more optimism that they're gonna split probably a little bit closer than what we saw prior to Swift missing time because Manangai was so great last week in a great matchup. And this has been something that was sort of building starting with that New Orleans game where he had a great performance as well. So I just hope, because Dave and I are obviously on the same page and I'm sure most people are going to treat it that way. I hope the Bears are going to treat it that way. That we didn't get the Manangai took advantage of Swift's absence and is now the guy similar to what Rico Dowdle did to Chuba Hubbard in Carolina. And there's a. There's a heavy switch coming for the. The backfield touches. So just because of the week and who we're missing and because of the matchup and what the Bears have shown us, I think there's an opportunity for both these guys to be successful. Similar to what they did against the Saints.

[Adam Rank]

The Giants run defense might as well be the Bengals. You know, it's just so in their second worst.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's not like they're far off.

[Adam Rank]

Right. But it's also. It's like the two straight weeks of two guys being good against them. It's hard to ask for that. It's hard to, you know, expect that. But it does happen with this lousy team.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah. I'll give you example. Like, I have one team where I think I mentioned this the other day. Like, I'm starting Managai over Ken Walker without any hesitation.

[Adam Rank]

Okay. Yeah, I understand. Let's see. So dart. Who are the guys who're starting ahead of dart?

[Dave Richard]

Josh Allen, Lamar. Lamar first, Lamar Allen Stafford in the game of the week and Jalen hurts and that is it.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, I would start dart over Hertz. The only other guy with me that'd be different would be Herbert.

[Adam Rank]

Herbert ahead of dart. Okay. And then how about Caleb Williams?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

He's not far behind dart, but that's when I may move behind golf. Just because I love the situation for golf so much.

[Adam Rank]

Okay.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You know, and I also fear that the Bears are going to run a lot.

[Adam Rank]

That's right. I was going to get to that.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right.

[Adam Rank]

It's like we. If you have two running, but Jamie has two running backs ranked in the top 21 or something. Dave, not quite that high, but the Bears might have to score 35 points or something for. For it all to work out.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, they might.

[Adam Rank]

Well, they could.

[Dave Richard]

I got news for you. Their defense, it's better than the Giants defense, but it's not that much better than the Giants defense.

[Adam Rank]

Talk about the tight ends here. And I think we'll spend a little more time on Roma Dunes in a minute here. I'll explain why the matchup is better this week than it was last week. Perhaps. But Theo Johnson is 17th for 16th to 18th for all of you guys. He has one game with more than 34 yards and was that fluky touchdown catch he had against Denver. But then, yeah, Colson Loveland. So I'm pretty interested in him. But here's another guy where he is awful so far against man. He's only run 33 routes against man, but horrible. One of the worst yards per out runs for Colson Loveland of any tight end against man coverage. Great against zone. The Giants play the second most man in the NFL. Only Cleveland plays more. So I don't know.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Their men are not that great.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah, well, that's true. But, but, but it's, it's weird. It's like they did well against Kelsey, they did great against Juwan Johnson, they did well against Evan Ingram, they did well against George Kittle, they did horrible against Dallas Goddard twice and Jake Ferguson. So they're not always a good matchup for tight ends. So Dave, how do you feel about Loveland?

[Dave Richard]

Too many mouths to feed in that Chicago offense. If it's a bounce back game for O'Dunesay and DJ Moore gets his usual workload plus Luther Burden's back, plus Cole Comet is back, then I'm worried about the target volume for Colson Loveland and.

[Adam Rank]

Jamie, you're a little, you're higher on him. I think you have an 11th.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'm just, you know, it's, it's obviously a lot of speculation because you know, all we heard going into their bye week was they were trying to get him ramped up. And then we see it coming out of their bye week. The hard part is, is that it coincided with Kemet being in and out of the lineup. And so if Kemet is going to sort of regain his footing a little bit and be a little bit more involved in the passing game or as much involved as he was in the passing game, which was not much but still enough to be a hindrance to Loveland, then we don't get the targets that we need here. And to Dave's point, there are a lot of mouths to feed for a game where they may be having a lot of success running the ball and not needing to throw as much. That being said, once you start to get to like that tight end group of Loveland and Najoku with Fannin and Andrews and Schultz and Joanne Johnson and there's a lot of good guys and good potential there, I'm just going to play the upside card and I think Loveland has more upside than that group.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah, just last thing on Comet and Loveland is that Loveland, his route participation is always higher when commit's not on the field. Except for last week. Last week Commit played for a half and he, he barely played Commit So I just want to see if they're making some type of transition.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Exactly.

[Adam Rank]

It could be more of a stashed. Right. It's like, well let's see if this happens again where Comet is not really a factor and they're maybe just going to Loveland and we'll see if you know, that continues but you might not want to start them.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

But this was also, you know, again, not to make the one to one comparison. This is how Aronde Gadson got going to, you know, finally started to get usage and then all of a sudden it's like how you put that back in the box.

[Adam Rank]

Yes, exactly.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

And actually same thing with Mason Taylor too. Like, you know, it took a couple weeks and they started using Mason Taylor and then again usage was just too good to over over overlook difference in that case is there's not a lot of talent around him.

[Adam Rank]

Roma Dunze 14th for Jamie, 16th for Dave, 27th for Heath. I talked about this on beyond the Box Score. The Cincinnati Bengals, believe it or not, weren't necessarily a great matchup for Odunze because they keep everything in front of them. They give up. Like the Cincinnati Bengals see one of the lowest wide receiver adots in the NFL and they give up a ton of yak. So that's kind of their strategy defensively and teams just throw short on them and get a lot of yak. Giants are not the same type of defense, so. And plus he's Romo Dunes. He's really good. So you guys have faith in him. Would you start him over A.J. brown?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yes.

[Dave Richard]

Yes.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

All right.

[Dave Richard]

I'm going to mention that the Giants play a lot of man coverage.

[Adam Rank]

I did.

[Dave Richard]

His target per route run rate is 33% going into last week against man coverage versus 20% against zone coverage.

[Adam Rank]

Wow. 33% is super.

[Dave Richard]

That is a humongous. First of all, it's a humongous target per route rate at 33% and second of all, that's a big jump and a huge difference and that's where I would be encouraged to start Romo Dun because if he's saying man coverage, especially if the Giants are going to be without their top corner.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Then he's, he's going to get open, he's going to have some opportunities. It's just like the more I think about this game and it's happening like as we sit here, the more I'm starting to get worried about how good the Bears run game can be because they have really improved that run game. Offensive line deserves a ton of credit. The coaches deserve a ton of credit and both the running backs have been great if they're going to run the ball as well as the matchup suggests. This could be a game like New Orleans all the way where Caleb Williams doesn't throw that.

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[Dave Richard]

And there are. And maybe we are all just a little too high on all the past catcher players.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

And I do think there's the other side of this, which is why we all love Jackson Dart is that the Giants should be able to score. And we saw this last week where their run game was amazing and Caleb Williams was amazing. Like we could get the shootout that we're hoping for here.

[Adam Rank]

Rapid fire questions here. Manangai or Dowdle? That's easy. Let's go down.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

What?

[Adam Rank]

Odunze, Waddle, Debo, Nico, choose two.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Well, one of those does not belong in that steeple. I'd go Nico and Waddle.

[Dave Richard]

I would too.

[Adam Rank]

Interesting. I thought maybe you'd go with Dunes over Nico with the backup quarterback, but. Okay. DJ Moore or Juwan Jennings.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Have you seen the Jaguars defense lately?

[Dave Richard]

Joanne Jennings over DJ Moo?

[Adam Rank]

I mean, you're talking about one of the biggest busts in fantasy right now in Nico Collins.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, but there's. I mean, they. They filed nine touchdowns in the last two weeks to quarterbacks.

[Adam Rank]

Fingers crossed, man. Zacchaeus or Elamina Zakias or Cedric Tillman?

[Dave Richard]

If we're talking stashes, it's Tillman.

[Adam Rank]

We're not.

[Dave Richard]

But guess what? That's what I would default to. Like, if I've got it. As long as Tillman is activated, he'd be the one I'd want on my team if I had to start him. It's against the Jets. Sauce Gardener's gone. I would. I guess I'd go in that direction.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'll go Zakias because his quarterback actually throw to him.

[Adam Rank]

Slayton or Downs?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Slayton.

[Dave Richard]

Slayton.

[Adam Rank]

Loveland or Mason Taylor?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Loveland.

[Dave Richard]

I'll take. I think I have Loveland Higher.

[Adam Rank]

Manangai or Videl?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Manangai.

[Dave Richard]

I've Taylor higher.

[Adam Rank]

Vidal and Swift or Rashad White?

[Dave Richard]

Down or Swift.

[Adam Rank]

Okay, on to our next game. Bears suck. Dave, Rams are at the 49ers.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Fired up about this Wandell Robinson.

[Adam Rank]

Wow. What's that?

[Dave Richard]

You didn't talk about the best receiver.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah, you guys have him top 24. Wandale Robinson.

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[Adam Rank]

I mean, I had you ranked the receivers, so I apologize for that, but. Wondale or Menangai?

[Dave Richard]

Wandale.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Wandale. But that's close.

[Adam Rank]

Rams are at the 49ers.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Okay.

[Adam Rank]

Rams are four and a half point road favorites. This was a Thursday night game earlier in the year and it was fun. Matthew Stafford is a must start. I just want to say this about Stafford, what he's doing right now, he is on pace for 4,562 yards, 47 touchdowns, eight interceptions. It's not that different than what he did in 2021 when they won the super bowl. And that year he was the number eight quarterback per game, on pace for 4,886 yards, 41 touchdowns and 17 interceptions. So we actually kind of have seen this before from Matthew Stafford. I just wanted to point that out. Of course, he's on an insane run right now. In his last five games, he's on pace for 54 touchdowns and no, no interceptions.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

But.

[Adam Rank]

All right, start him. He's been great. Kyron, you know, do you, Is Kyron kind of like Barkley to you? Like you're going to start him, but maybe thinking this won't be his best game. Are you pumped for Kyron?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, again, given the week, I'm thrilled to have Karen Williams, but it's kind of the same thing all the time with him, right? It's, you know, you're hoping for a touchdown.

[Adam Rank]

Okay, start Adam, start Puka, sit the tight ends, although, I mean, it is a good matchup, but you're not starting Higby. Okay, so that brings us to the other side of the ball. Start McCaffrey, Jamie, break down the, the passing game and the options here for 40 for the 49ers.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, I, I, you're still starting Kittle. You can certainly make the case that some of these other tight ends that have popped up over the course of the season are better than him. So Aronde Gadsden, a healthy, you know, Harold Fannin, I would take those guys over Kittle at this point right now, but it's not something I'd be doing in terms of making a transaction. I would just kind of ride it out with Kittle and hopefully this is his, you know, game that he's due. We've seen the Rams sort of hit or miss against tight ends throughout the course of the season, and clearly we've seen the 49ers production at tight end hit or miss over the course of the season, you know, so I think he said it best. You know, this isn't like the last chance for Kittle, but I think it's the, it's the, it's the last chance if you have somebody else on your bench that you like better. So again if you picked up Gatson or you picked up Fannin or you know, get another. We got a great game from Juwan Johnson, you know, you might have to start considering other options. We talked about Jennings, he's a good number three receiver, seven plus targets and two of his last three. I'm sorry, seven targets exactly. In two of his last three last week scored touchdown. Should be the go to guy in, in the receiving core and hopefully he comes through with another strong performance. If you go back to what he did last year in one game against the Rams it was historic with a three touchdown game so would be great to get that again and then we'll see if the, you know who the quarterback is. I, I think for Kittle and hopefully for Jennings, you know, Purdy. Purdy's eventual return, whether it's this week or soon will help both those guys because they favor, he favors them, you know, quite a bit.

[Adam Rank]

I don't really know that there's much else to say about this game. I don't want to linger. I will say everything is really bad for George Kittle. Target share. Yeah, his yak is pathetic. Career low.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yak.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah, career low by far and yak career low adot Career low. Explosive play rate. Half of what it was last year is explosive play rate but it's such a small sample size so yeah, he's due for regression I think basically. Let's go.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I hope so. And to your point about them throwing more that would be the case. You know the one game that you referenced that they didn't throw the ball a lot and they got dominated in time and possession was the Houston game and the Rams have a defense that is not at Houston's level but it's not far off and so if the Rams want to play keep away they can. Okay.

[Dave Richard]

And.

[Adam Rank]

Again I think let's do some Kittles or Kittle Ors. Kittle or Goddard Kittle. Kittle or Najoko?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

If Fan is out I'll take Najoko.

[Adam Rank]

Kittle and if Fanon's in, Kittle or Fanon Fanon Kittle. Kittle or Tyler.

[Dave Richard]

Warren Kettle Kittle.

[Adam Rank]

Tough matchup for Warren Kittle or Kincaid Kincaid Kiddle. All right, Dave is kiddling bits over there. All right, start.

[Dave Richard]

Hopefully he's not kiddling pits.

[Adam Rank]

I don't want to shortchange this game.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Quarter would be better.

[Adam Rank]

49Ers quarterback.

[Dave Richard]

No, if he's Kittle as pits that might be better but you know Kittle is the pits. Would be bad for three weeks in a row.

[Adam Rank]

49Ers quarterback or Brissette at Seattle?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'll take 49ers quarterback.

[Dave Richard]

I think I'll take Brissette.

[Adam Rank]

49Ers quarterback or Baker Mayfield?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You know, I'll take Purdy. I'll go Purdy. Brissette Jones. Sorry, what was the last one?

[Adam Rank]

Baker Mayfield.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Mayfield over any of those quarterbacks?

[Adam Rank]

Michael Penix.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'll take panics over the 49ers quarterbacks.

[Dave Richard]

Purdy over Penix, Pennix over Mac.

[Adam Rank]

All right, just one point. Mac Jones played great last week. I know this that the points weren't there but again his passer rating was insane. He just threw I think 22, 24 passes or something like that completed most of them. So I don't think he's coming off a bad game. He's coming off a game where they just ran out the clock against the Giants. Speaking of the Giants, it was pointed out in the chat and it's worth mentioning, the weather looks yucky in Chicago this weekend, so that is something that could impact our rankings and I just, I'm thinking of my Caleb Williams team and I'm just getting a little nervous about it. But it's going to be cold, it could be snowy, maybe a little wet. So we'll see. We're going to keep an eye on it. But you got to make windy.

[Dave Richard]

That's going to be the most important.

[Adam Rank]

Factor, Chicago, so be flexible there. But I can't say what the weather is yet. It's only Friday morning for us but that's. We just have to keep that in mind. Another thing people are talking about is that there was just a recent report that Jaden Daniels got some good news and the commanders are not putting him on IR on IR yet. So his injury may not be as severe as once feared and we might see him, I don't know, somewhat soon. Let's hope. Keep our fingers crossed.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Dubai is week 12, so week 13 might make some sense.

[Adam Rank]

Arizona is at Seattle. Stat of the game. Only two quarterbacks have scored more than 18.1 fantasy points in six point per passing touchdown leagues against Arizona. One of them was Bryce young who threw 55 passes. One of them was Daniel Jones who had a rushing touchdown. So this has actually been a pretty tough matchup. Jamie starter sits Sam Darnold start low end starter.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You know I wouldn't expect one of his best games but you said 18.1. He had that number against them the last time so I would expect a little bit better than that. Again, just getting Rashid Shahid, you know, they'll probably show off their shiny new toy and see if there's something there right away. Which, you know, he steps in and knows the offense without hopefully any hesitation because he was with Glenn Kubiak in New Orleans last year. And with the way that Jackson, Smith and the Jigba is playing, with the way that Darnold's playing himself and I think just the way the offense is operating where they can't run the ball, that if we get maybe a slight uptick in past attempts for Darnold, who only needed 24 to get to 330 and four touchdowns last week could just be absolutely insane. So I don't want to get away from Sam Darnold unless the matchup is overwhelmingly disgusting. And I don't think that this is one of those cases.

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[Adam Rank]

Yeah. I think they might be missing Max Melton, one of their cornerbacks for Arizona. They've actually been better against the past with him off the field. That's probably a coincidence. All right, so Darnold's playing outstanding. We'll stay on that team. Actually, why don't we just talk about the running backs in general, if you will. If we could sit down for a little reading time. I found a very nice snippet from the from AZ Central about the usage of the pant of the Cardinals running backs last week because Knight played like 2/3 of the snaps but DeMarcado got 2/3 of the carries. So here's what it said. That was an inversion of their typical roles. But the Cardinals often asks DeMarcado to pass Protect against a blitz heavy Cowboys approach preventing him from getting into routes even on passing downs. Meanwhile, the Cardinals often passed on early downs out of heavy personnel in order to take advantage of Dallas selling out to stop the run. That meant Bam Knight was used more than normal in the passing game this week. It won't be so easy to take advantage of Mitch Advantage of mismatches. The Seahawks rarely play in base defense even against heavy personnel packages. Blah blah blah. So a little insight on why it looked the way it did last week. Are you starting any running back in this game?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I would prefer not to.

[Dave Richard]

I would take the chance on Kenneth Walker.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think we just save that clip and play it every week because that's what one of us says every week that I will take the chance on Ken Walker and it's wrong every week.

[Adam Rank]

Four straight games with single digit PPR fantasy points. How many points are you hoping for Dave? With your. With your Risk here on Kenneth Walker.

[Dave Richard]

I will, I will be bold and say double digit.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

The last time you had double digits was the last meeting against this team and it was 12. Like we're begging for 12 points at this point.

[Dave Richard]

For me, I just, I do think that if he's starting to get just a little bit more work, maybe the matchup is favorable just because he can attack the edges, that this is. If Seattle, you know, thinks to let him attack the edges against Arizona and I think they'll be playing with a lead, so maybe there's a chance for him to get. Let's go crazy. 13 carries. So it's, it's, it's more hope than anything else. I probably haven't ranked too high, but I, I would still take the chance on him as a low end. Number two running back.

[Adam Rank]

Which Cardinals running back do you prefer?

[Dave Richard]

Timarcado.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, it's just basically I, I think you have to approach it whoever is coming off the better game.

[Dave Richard]

But it's not like I, I don't know where you have him. Right, Jamie, But I, he's not even a top 30 runner for me.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No. I would start both Giants running backs over both Cardinals running backs, like just with the hope of one of those guys doing something. Yep.

[Adam Rank]

Okay. Marvin Harrison Jr. Is 15th or 16th for you guys, so we like him and Jacoby Brissette. Dave, your thoughts on Brissette this week?

[Dave Richard]

I think he's a good bye week replacement quarterback. There are too many other passers that have the same kind of upside. I guess we can say if we're, if we're going to be generous over Jacoby Brissette, but he's, he's played so well. The problem is that in the past, I and others have given quarterbacks like this the benefit of the doubt in tough matchups and they get beat down in a tough matchup. There is no question that this is a tough matchup. Seattle's defense is better than they were when Arizona faced them the first time this year. They're healthier than they were at that point. And even though it should be a game where Arizona throws a lot and yet Brissette has two good targets with Trey McBride and Marvin Harrison. I struggle to see him having a turnover free high yardage, high touchdown game. Could he walk away with 275 yards, two touchdowns and two turnovers that I could buy into? That's still a pretty good game. But there are a lot of quarterbacks that I like better than him this week.

[Adam Rank]

Okay, let's take A look at some of the comments in the chat. Obviously, you're going to start Trey McBride. You'll start JSN. Oh, yeah. Before we do the chat, I'm sorry. What are we thinking about Rashid Shahid. Tori Horton, by the way, popped up on the injury report. He missed practice. Cooper cup was limited, so I would assume she would be the only other pass catcher you'd be interested in starting. Is anybody. Is he in the top 40 for you guys? She.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, he's in top 30 again. I think there's a chance for him to come and hit the ground running and, you know, get five plus targets. I don't think that's a stretch. You know, Tory Horton was getting four, so, you know, you're looking at a similar type of role right away with maybe even more put on a veteran player again, who knows the system. So it's not the easiest of matchups. We know the Cardinals have not been that forgiving against opposing wide receivers, but just under the circumstances, like, he's for me, in that same range of Tez Johnson, Darius Slayton, Jameson Williams, you know, these type of players that probably need a touchdown to help your day.

[Adam Rank]

All right, now I'm going to read some chat questions. Jacoby Brissette or Trevor Lawrence?

[Dave Richard]

Brissette.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Brissette.

[Adam Rank]

D. Mercado or Ken Walker?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Walker.

[Dave Richard]

Walker for me.

[Adam Rank]

I'm reading this because I didn't do any for the 49ers game. Sorry about that. Juwan Jennings or Quinch or Quentin Johnston?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Johnson.

[Dave Richard]

Johnston.

[Adam Rank]

I'd rather start Walker. Texas Ranger over Ken Walker.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, me too.

[Adam Rank]

Pick one in ppr. Bam. D. Mercado or Kyle Pitts?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Pitts.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, pits.

[Adam Rank]

Darnold or McCarthy?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Darnold.

[Adam Rank]

Traded Ken Walker for Tetero McMillan.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I like it.

[Dave Richard]

Spot even on the trade chart. A little more value in full ppr.

[Adam Rank]

Charbonnet or Travion Henderson in non ppr.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

That's a good one, boy.

[Adam Rank]

Caleb Williams or Sam Darnold?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Caleb for now.

[Adam Rank]

Would you droop Shahid for Pierce?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'd rather have Shade.

[Dave Richard]

I think I would, too.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Plus, you have Pierce's bye week coming up.

[Adam Rank]

A Rod or Brissette?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Jacoby Brissette.

[Adam Rank]

And should we talk about A.J. barner? Great matchup.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I believe he's hurt.

[Adam Rank]

Is he? No, I didn't see that.

[Dave Richard]

Maybe he'll get you 10 PPR points. Maybe he'll be inactive. Three PPR points.

[Adam Rank]

He is the tush push guy. They've run him. He's run four times this season. One of them at the goal. Line, all of them on third or fourth and one. A.J. barner and his first matchup. He had three catches, 32 yards and a touchdown. And Arroyo, actually, I think, had a big game against Arizona, too. He had no. He had two catches for 44 yards. It was kind of big for him, but I. We can't really recommend Barner. He's just not involved enough. Seahawks Blast Seahawks DST is fourth for Dave, fourth for Jamie, third for Dave. The Saints are at the Panthers. Unbelievable podcast.

[Dave Richard]

By now, if we had done this.

[Adam Rank]

Game earlier, we'll be done in three minutes. They.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

The.

[Adam Rank]

The Saints had the ball for 16 minutes and seven seconds last week. They ran 40 plays. They are horrible on the road. They've lost by 31, 12, 12 and 24 points on the road. They're actually quite competitive at home. 7. They've lost by 7, 5, 6 and 20 at home with a win as well. But they are so bad on the road. So I. I think.

[Dave Richard]

Would they be, by the way?

[Adam Rank]

Yeah, I think. I think Taylor McMillan is really the tough call here because you guys said you have him and Olave back to back. I guess talk about both of them here, Dave McMillan and Olave, and how you feel about.

[Dave Richard]

I'm worried about volume for McMillan, and we've seen that in a bunch of games before, including as recently as, I think, think last week, where he's just not getting huge target volume. The game isn't competitive, Dave.

[Adam Rank]

It's. I'm sorry, it's three weeks in a row with six or fewer targets.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, there you go. Thank you for pointing that out. And it could be four weeks in a row after this game. It has nothing to do with a tough, stingy New Orleans defense. It has everything to do with Carolina building a lead with their run game. I was impressed with their offensive line, even with the injuries they had last week, knocking dudes over and making space for Rico Dowdle. It's great that they've given Rico this opportunity. He's earned it. He seems healthy. I know he had the groin issue earlier in the week. Hopefully he gets in the end zone. Hopefully he only does one hingle McCringleberry pump and not two or three. And he delivers a huge game. And if he's doing well, the Panthers aren't going to throw that much. They really don't want to throw that much. And it makes me nervous to start Tedro McMillan as a result. So low end, number two wide receiver at best. I could even see myself moving him down more just thinking about Rico and How big of a game I think he's gonna have.

[Adam Rank]

Okay, Johnny. Airport says Adam's shoulders have been unusually calm this morning. Do I need to get fired up? I'll try to get fired up about this. You guys only have Chris Olave 23rd, 22nd. Come on. No. Rashid Shahid. Who else are they gonna throw to? I know the Panthers. On paper, they're good against wide receivers, but they haven't stopped any good wide receiver. Well, they kind of have, but they haven't stopped that many good wide receivers this year. Crystal Live is going to have a big game. Shoulders are raised. He's a must start.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

All right. I mean, he's a number three. It feels very similar about him than I do about McMillan. You know, we saw one game again, she. He was there. But still, one game with Tyler Shuck where he didn't feature him. I don't know if they're going to have the time of possession much more without. The Panthers are going to run the ball in this game, so I don't think we're going to get a ton more plays. And you're still talking about, like you said, this is not an easy matchup for him. So I think they're both just low in number two receivers.

[Adam Rank]

By the way, with McMillan, six or fewer targets in three straight games, there have been five wide receivers who have scored 16 or more PPR fantasy points against the Saints with six or fewer targets.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So, yeah, he's going to probably have to score to have a big game.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

And he just hasn't done that very often. Like he's not getting, you know. What do you have with the Darnold in the game with Darnold?

[Adam Rank]

Which game? McMillan. Yeah, he played with Sam Darnold.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'm not any doll. Excuse me.

[Adam Rank]

Oh, he had like 99 yards on 10 targets, I think.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, like he's not getting that this week, but I could see 6 for 70 in a touchdown.

[Adam Rank]

Starter Situan Johnson.

[Dave Richard]

I like him. Low end, number one tight end in full ppr. Good consistency over the last few weeks. Target volume should go up. I think he's one of the benefactors of Shahid leaving town too.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right. So four targets last week. First time he's been in double digits in PPR points this season with less than seven targets. Scored a touchdown. I agree. I think his targets will go up and it's not a difficult matchup. I do think that he could be in the flex conversation, you know, so if you want to play two tight ends, you can go that route.

[Adam Rank]

Okay, some questions from the chat. Devin Neal or Tyler Algier?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Neil Algier.

[Adam Rank]

Adam's shoulders look like those dancing two balloons at the car dealership. We're gonna go Garrett Wilson over Tedro McMillan, but this one's closer. Tedro McMillan or Keenan Allen in non PPR.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'd go Keenan just because he scored more touchdowns and hopefully he does again against Pittsburgh.

[Dave Richard]

I would, too.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

All right.

[Adam Rank]

I think about that. I think that's about it. Oh, I don't even think I mentioned Alvin Kamara's name. Kamani. By Kamani Vidal or Alvin Kamara.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Neither is Kellen Moore.

[Dave Richard]

Kamani.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah. By default.

[Adam Rank]

Yeah, man. I mean Camara. I just. I wouldn't even consider starting him.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's such a good matchup too.

[Adam Rank]

Is it?

[Dave Richard]

That he's going to get a good rushing average and he's going to have a drive where he's just like ripping about apart the Panthers and it's going to be first and goal from the one and you know what's going to happen.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Adam Rank]

Taste some help. But he. Look, you know who else is a great matchup?

[Dave Richard]

I was going to say a Tyler Shuck fumble, but yeah, that too.

[Adam Rank]

The Giants are a great matchup.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right.

[Adam Rank]

Eight carries for 27 yards for. Oh, he's been awful.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

There's no argument for him.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, yeah. Bad offensive situation. He's not the young Alvin Camara once was. He's not getting targets. Everything is going against what I thought would happen.

[Adam Rank]

All right. Last thing here is that we love Rico Dowdle. He's the top seven, I think, for everybody. So start him and the Panthers DST is also in play because pretty much every DST has been good against the Saints. They are top eight for Dave and Jamie, not for Heath. That is it for fantasy football today. We will talk to you on the Mailbag episode episode which should be very fun with Dan. We're actually going a little earlier today, 11:45am Eastern. So mailbag join us there. And of course, Sunday, 8:30am to 9:30am and noon to 1. YouTube.com fantasy football today. Have a wonderful weekend. Talk to you soon.

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