👻 Start or Sit (NFC)! Halloween Edition! SCARY LINEUP DECISIONS! (10/31 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Fantasy Football Today: Start or Sit (NFC)! Halloween Edition! SCARY LINEUP DECISIONS! (10/31/25)

Hosts/Analysts: Adam Aizer, Dave Richard, Jamey Eisenberg
Theme: SCARY LINEUP DECISIONS for NFC games—a special Halloween spirited breakdown of the week’s most difficult fantasy football start/sit calls.

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Overview

This Halloween-themed episode dives into critical NFC “start or sit” calls for Week 9 of the fantasy season. Hosts Adam, Dave, and Jamey, in full costume and banter, break down matchup-specific lineups, answer listener questions, and settle some of the scariest fantasy choices you’re facing. The focus? Six key NFC home games, injury updates, “must-starts,” boom/bust plays, and streaming options—all with a festive, joke-filled FFT Halloween spin.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Thursday Night Football Takeaways (Baltimore 28, Miami 6)

[02:29–06:41]

• Lamar Jackson as Fantasy MVP: Adam argues Jackson should be a first-rounder, but Dave and Jamey still don't favor QBs early.
  • Adam: “He deserves to be a first rounder. He’s top 12!” [03:46]
• Devon Achane/Jalen Waddle: Remain strong starts.
• Zay Flowers & Mark Andrews:
  • Jamey: “Start Flowers as a high-end WR2… Andrews more red zone/touchdown dependent.” [05:41]
• DFS Talk: Some fun about cheap DFS options and costume banter.

Scary Lineup Poll: “How long would Adam Aizer survive in a Scream movie?”

[07:27]

• Adam: “I’m the sensible, responsible one—I’ll die in the sequel probably!”
• 52% of YouTube poll says Adam dies in the opening scene.

Injury & News Updates

[08:40–15:00]

• Kyler Murray: Trending toward playing, but some concern; backup plans advised.
  • Dave: “If Kyler plays, he’s going to be awesome... I’d still start him if he’s out there.” [09:08]
• Rhamondre Stevenson: Toe injury. Travion Henderson (“top 26, maybe top 24 RB if Stevenson is out”). [10:16]
• DeAndre Swift, Jameson Williams, Cooper Kupp: Various statuses discussed. Williams a stash for potential upside.
• Trade Rumors: Eagles “unofficially shopping” A.J. Brown/Terry McLaurin potentially on move—causing stir, but not urgent for managers.
• TE Streamers: If Cole Kmet is out, Colston Loveland mentioned.

One Question for Each Game

[17:09–22:33] (Quick Fire Round)

• Carolina at Green Bay: Start or sit Rico Dowdle?
  • Jamey: “Low-end starter at best… tough matchup. I’d rather start Kareem Hunt.” [17:20]
• Minnesota at Detroit: Better flex: Jordan Addison or David Montgomery?
  • Jamey: “Format dependent—lean Montgomery in non-PPR (TD upside), Addison in full PPR.” [18:31]
• San Francisco at Giants: Best WR?
  • Both: “Wandale Robinson.” [19:41]
• Seattle at Washington: Can you trust the Washington pass game?
  • Jamey: “Debo is a low-end WR2. Ertz is my most trusted start for Washington.” [20:13]
• New Orleans at Rams: Is Chris Olave a must-start with Tyler Schuck?
  • Jamey: “Yes… The targets have been too good.” [21:06]
• Arizona at Dallas: Rank Bam Knight, Pickens, Marvin Harrison Jr.
  • “Knight. Pickens, Harrison.” [22:06]

Deeper Game-by-Game Fantasy Analysis

Carolina at Green Bay

[23:00–30:15]

• Rico Dowdle: Still “safer” than GB WRs—volume should be there, but Packers' run D is tough.
• Packers WRs: Watson ranked highest, but tough trust after recent usage.
  • “Golden [Jayden Reed] is droppable—too many mouths to feed.” — Dave
• Jordan Love:
  • Jamey: “Low-end QB1 at best... depends if he gets 30+ attempts.” [27:11]
  • Dave: “If no volume, tough to trust. I’d start Caleb Williams over him.” [27:56]
• TEs: Tucker Kraft is a safer play over Gadsden. [28:49–29:57]

Minnesota at Detroit

[31:02–39:23]

• Expectations: Lions will run heavy, Goff as “top 10-12” but not a ceiling play.
  • “Goff will finish as a top 10 QB, but not a monster.” — Dave [31:47]
• Jameson Williams: “Mid-WR3 boom/bust” but low trust despite OC’s remarks.
• Jared Goff vs. Kyler/Brissette/Caleb: Split; Jamie prefers Arizona QBs’ upside.
• David Montgomery: “TD-dependent, a strong RB2, ranked above Vikings RBs.” [35:45]
• Vikings Receivers: Addison is a WR2/flex—concern about McCarthy’s effect, but usage and matchup are promising (secondary banged up).
• TJ Hockenson: Only start if both tackles play; outside top 12 otherwise.

San Francisco at Giants

[41:26–51:35]

• 49ers Passing Game: Only Kittle is a “must”; Jennings a deep-league WR3 option.
  • Jamey cites Giants’ decimated secondary: “Best matchup in a month for Jennings.” [44:21]
• Giants: Wandale Robinson is safest WR/Flex; Darius Slayton is a boom/bust.
• RB Situation: Tyrone Tracy is a strong RB2 if Cam Scadaboo is out; upside but goal-line uncertainty.
• Theo Johnson: A viable start with Dart at QB and Bellinger iffy.
• QBs:
  • Dart over Love or Darnold (“rushing upside”), but Daniel Jones over Dart.
• Quickfire: Purdy vs. Stafford? Stafford. Jennings vs. Keenan Allen? Allen. Wandale vs. Travis Hunter? Split.

Seattle at Washington

[51:32–61:23]

• Seattle RBs: Ken Walker “most trust but only a low-end RB2.” Charbonnet is TD-dependent but possibly more reliable.
  • Dave: “Charbonnet my favorite... getting opportunity and scoring.” [53:12]
  • Jamey: “Walker more explosive; I’m banking on his big-play ability.” [54:21]
• Commanders Pass Game: Jaden Daniels is a risky back-end starter (injuries, missing McLaurin).
  • “Low-end starter... you don’t want to miss out on the upside, but tread lightly.” [57:56]
• Zach Ertz: Strong TE start due to Seattle’s struggles vs TEs (ranked top 8-12).

New Orleans at Rams

[62:48–67:13]

• Saints: “Only Olave is a confident start.” Rashid Shaheed is a deeper-league dart throw (dependent on deep strikes connecting).
  • Dave: “Targets for Olave are too good—must start.” [21:06, 63:23]
• Rams: Stafford a “top 10 QB” (must-start); Higbee and Blake Corum are desperation plays.
  • Jamie: “Stafford should have a hyper-efficient game. Must start.” [66:18]
• Kamara: Jamie and Dave both extremely pessimistic—only a floor-based low-end RB2.

Arizona at Dallas

[68:00–75:29]

• Quarterbacks: Kyler Murray and Brissette both startable; Kyler has good AT&T Stadium history.
  • “Kyler’s top 12, Brissette is in the streaming mix if Kyler sits.” — Dave [69:25]
• Running Backs: Bam Knight locked in as an RB2 ("perfect setup vs Dallas”). Night’s big game could hurt Trey Benson’s rest-of-season value.
• Tight Ends: Trey McBride is top dog (“Frankenstein” pun). Jake Ferguson still a start despite volatility due to matchup.
• Receivers: CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens must-starts; Harrison is near-mandatory unless you’re loaded.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Adam (on surviving Scream): “I don’t drink. I know the rules... I’ll probably die in the sequel.” [07:31]
• Jamie (on Zay Flowers): “Putting him top 10, top 12, I don't know man... but you’re starting him every week. Andrews is red-zone dependent.” [05:41]
• Dave (on Jordan Love): “He has three games this season over 20 pts—all when he throws 30+ times. If he doesn’t, he’s tough to trust.” [27:24]
• Jamie (on Kamara): “Very minimal expectations... Rams are #2 against RBs, no TDs allowed on the ground. Kamara hasn’t scored since week 1.” [65:32]
• Jamey (on Seattle RBs): “Neither is in the top 20... Both are better than Vikings or Titans RBs, but that’s not saying much.” [55:44]
• Running Halloween Puns: “Jason Voorhees Ferguson,” “Trey McBride of Chucky,” “Blake Gorham,” “Count Dakula,” etc.
• Nando Guest Cameo: Quick, chaotic, comedic interlude as Nando returns for FFT Halloween and to discuss league standings. [24:53–27:02]
• Costume Banter: “You actually pull off Garth better than Wayne.” [76:33]

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Time-Stamped Important Segments

• [02:29] – Thursday Night Football Fantasy Review (Lamar, Waddle, Zay Flowers)
• [07:27] – Halloween “Scream” Poll
• [08:40–15:00] – Injury & News Updates (Kyler, Stevenson, Williams, etc.)
• [17:09–22:33] – Quick Fire Round: One Question For Each Game
• [23:00–30:15] – Deep Dive: Carolina at Green Bay (Dowdle/Fantasy RBs)
• [31:02–39:23] – Deep Dive: Minnesota at Detroit (Montgomery, Addison, Laporta)
• [41:26–51:35] – San Francisco at Giants/49ers Skill Player Outlook
• [51:32–61:23] – Seahawks vs. Commanders: RBs, QBs, Ertz
• [62:48–67:13] – Saints at Rams: Who’s worth starting?
• [68:00–75:29] – Cardinals at Cowboys: Kyler, Bam Night, McBride, Ferguson

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Fantasy Start/Sit Summary (by Game)

Carolina at Green Bay

• Start: Josh Jacobs, McMillan (WR2), Kraft (TE1), Dowdle (flex, low-end RB2).
• Sit/Monitor: Packers WRs (Watson > Dobbs), Jordan Love (only in deeper leagues).

Minnesota at Detroit

• Start: Jameer Gibbs, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Jared Goff (QB1/2), David Montgomery (RB2).
• Vikings: Addison is a WR2/3, TJ Hockenson (only if both tackles healthy).

San Francisco at Giants

• Start: George Kittle, Christian McCaffrey, Wandale Robinson (flex), Tyrone Tracy (RB2, if Scadaboo out).
• Consider: Juwan Jennings (DFS, flex), Theo Johnson (low-end TE stream).

Seattle at Washington

• Start: Ken Walker, Zach Charbonnet (both RB2s), Jaxon Smith-Njigba (WR3), Zach Ertz (TE1).
• Cautious: Jaden Daniels (low-end QB1), Commanders WRs (injury-impacted, especially no McLaurin).

New Orleans at Rams

• Start: Chris Olave (WR2/3), Matthew Stafford (QB1), Rams DST (elite).
• Consider: Rashid Shaheed (deep leagues), Higbee/Blake Corum (desperation/risk), Theo Johnson (TE).

Arizona at Dallas

• Start: Dak Prescott (QB1), CeeDee Lamb (WR1), George Pickens/Marvin Harrison Jr. (WR1/2), Bam Knight (RB2), Trey McBride (TE1), Jake Ferguson (TE1).
• Watch: Kyler Murray/Jacoby Brissette (strong streamers), aftermath for Trey Benson if Knight thrives.

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Closing Halloween Banter

• Costumes discussed, puns celebrated, and the FFT crew’s tradition of blending sharp fantasy takes with entertainment shines through—“Party time, excellent!”

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Summary Useful for:
Anyone needing quick, actionable analysis for start/sit NFC dilemmas, up-to-date injury-influenced rankings, streaming options, and a fun, thematic fantasy football listen that matches the Halloween energy of Week 9.

Transcript

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[Host/Announcer]

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[Jamie]

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[Host/Announcer]

Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay, party on, everybody. Happy Halloween. Welcome to Fantasy football today presented by BetMGM. Make it legendary. Or should I say, it's fantasy football today. Yeah. Hey, Wayne Campbell here. Garth Algar. Party on, Wayne. Party on, Garth. And J. Batman guy. Jamie, what is it? Yeah, it looks good.

[Jamie]

What's up?

[Dave]

I forgot to get the wig. Sorry.

[Wayne Campbell]

We didn't know what to do for Jamie. We thought maybe Alice Cooper, Cassandra. But I appreciate you dressing up. What's going on, everyone? Welcome to the show. I could also do this. Oh, wait. Let's remember how they do the. The alternate endings in Wayne's world. We could do the alternate intros.

[Jamie]

Why don't we save that for the end of the show?

[Wayne Campbell]

We could do. We could do the super scary intro. Dave. Oh, I'm Adam Hellraiser with depraved Dave. Richard and J.B. the hills have Eisenberg. Happy Halloween. We got some fun stuff prepared for you today. All right. We also have six games to preview. Our NFC home games are Carolina at Green Bay, Minnesota at Detroit, San Francisco at the Giants, Seattle at Washington, New Orleans at the Rams and Arizona at Dallas. Yeah. All right, let's party on. Talk about Baltimore 28 and Miami 6. Could it, you know, could have been a closer game, Jamie. The Dolphins shot themselves in the foot a little bit, but, you know, before the injury, Lamar Jackson, I think, had a pretty good case for fantasy MVP. He's now played five games. He scored 33 or more points and four of them. Holy cow. If you're drafting today, who would you take ahead of Lamar Jackson?

[Dave]

I would take Jamar Chase. I would take Bijan Robinson. I would take Jonathan Taylor. I would take Jackson, Smith, the Jigba. I would take Caffrey. I mean, I'm still not taking a quarterback in the first round.

[Wayne Campbell]

Oh, come on. He deserves to be in the first round. He's top 12 player. No, he's not.

[Dave]

No, he just wouldn't do it.

[Wayne Campbell]

He's incredible. Oh, my gosh. All right, Jamie, what are your takeaways from this game?

[Dave]

I think you said it. You know, the first. The first half, the Dolphins were definitely in the game. You know, the false start penalty on the fourth down call. Mike McDaniel felt like they had a touchdown there. If you read his lips, you know, the. The Ms. Field goal was. Was bad. Also the Malik Washington two turnovers were obviously bad. The first one, you know, cost them a 7 nothing deficit, but you could just tell that they needed to be perfect for that to, you know, work out for Miami, and it just wasn't the case. But Devon Hn looked awesome. Jalen Waddle was fine. It's just a matter of. At this point, it's funny. I had to do a DFS lineup for last night, and Dave and Heath were sitting in the room when I did the hit. And I saw Dave shake his head when I said Greg Dolce because he was cheap. And he actually ended up playing well, you know, so I didn't even know.

[Jamie]

He was on the Dolphins. That's why I was like. I was like, dulcich is on the Dolphins now.

[Dave]

Yeah, he was. He was $2,000 on FanDuel, and so you had to find somebody. But that was a great ball. You know, you need someone to catch the ball there. But in any event, I hit the microphone. Sorry.

[Wayne Campbell]

It's so funny to watch you right now in this costume. Just talk like a normal guy. It's like nothing's on your face. It's so funn. I. I mean, I think it's all systems, like, at least start H and start. Waddle start. Jackson start. Well, we talk about flowers. Derrick Henry really Had a pretty bad first half, had some touchdown opportunities, but Lamar Jackson was just throwing all of them. Mark Andrews had two touchdowns on three targets. So, Dave, how do you value Mark Andrews and Zay Flowers we were talking about as a bilo? He's still in his career. He still only has two good games where he's had less than seven targets and he didn't get there last night. He had five targets, but that's because he never scores. Anyway, your thoughts on Andrews and Flowers.

[Jamie]

I think you're still starting Flowers as a number two type of fantasy wide receiver, but a high end number two receiver. Anytime the Ravens are in a game where you're expecting them to score a lot of points and maybe focus on more of like those high scoring competitive games, you should, you should feel even better about say, Flowers. But putting them top 10, top 12. I don't know, man. It just, it depends on who else is available at wide receiver that you could go to in a given week to just rank them that high. But you're starting Zay Flowers pretty much every week. Andrews is a little bit of a different story. I feel like he's red zone dependent. If, if the Ravens, if they've got a really tough matchup or a defense that they're facing that's really good in the red zone and inside the 10, it's going to be tougher to trust him because he doesn't get a lot of targets on a week to week basis and he's so touchdown dependent. Last, last night was kind of easy to go with them. I actually moved them up just a little. Not enough obviously to put them in. I think I ended up with him.

[Dave]

At like, like that.

[Jamie]

So you wear a decent 13th.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay. Okay.

[Jamie]

As in Friday the 13th, but still not, not the best tight end that you could start in. Fantasy, but better than your typical streamer.

[Wayne Campbell]

Someone called me Winona Azer. Yeah. Yeah. All right, well, that would be it for Thursday Night Football. I don't know if we do that for Friday. All right, so we have a YouTube poll by. From Thomas, who's not producing today but decided to murder me via YouTube poll. Anyway. How long would Adam Azer survive in a Scream movie? Dies in the opening scene, makes it to halfway through, survives until the very end, or turns out to be the killer.

[Jamie]

Dies in the first scene.

[Dave]

I think it. Survives till the very end.

[Wayne Campbell]

I think so too. And we only have 8% of the vote here, Jamie, because most people are, yes, killing me in the first scene. 52% of the vote. Turns out to be the killer. 32% and then 8% for the other two options halfway through and survive to the very end. Listen, I don't drink, right? You know the rules. I don't drink. I don't. I'm not gonna be stupid and say, I'll be right back. You know, I. I know the rules and I'm the sensible, responsible one. I'm gonna die in the sequel probably. So thank you everybody for that. Football fans, bring that playoff energy to your pro football bets all season long. This pro football boost pack gives you three ways to boost your payout on a winning bet. Just log into your BetMGM account to receive your boost package. Then place any pro football bet and apply one of the tokens. Make sure to bet up to the minimum stake odds and legs specified on the token. If your boosted bet hits, you'll score a bigger payout. From opening kickoffs to game winning drives, this pro football boost pack is your ticket to unforgettable moments this season. Don't wait on the sidelines. Join the action with BetMGM. All right, let's do some news and notes here. Okay. Excellent.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Wayne Campbell]

Jaden Daniels expected to play. Kyler Murray seems to be on track to play. Do you guys feel good right now about Kyler starting at his Monday night game?

[Jamie]

Good about him. Starting, yes. Good about him is like a must start fantasy quarterback and not as much.

[Dave]

I go, I go the other way right now. There was an NFL Network report that the Cardinals may not be sure at this point. Mike Garofolo on the broadcast before the game yesterday said they pushed back his media availability, which is obviously not a great sign. So just something to keep in mind. It seems like he's gonna play. I mean, we got the report from Shafter, but when I saw that last yesterday, I was like, oh, do I need to get a backup plan just in case? I dropped Jacoby Brissette in one super flex league where I have him with Kyler and I was a little like, oh, you know, not, not thrilled about that. But I think if Kyler plays, he's going to be awesome. I mean, just based on how everybody's done against this Cowboys defense, 23 or more fantasy points. So I would still start him if he's out there. Okay.

[Wayne Campbell]

Atlanta optimistic about Michael Penix. Bryce Young practice in full. Good news for Flacco but not great news. He was upgraded to limited. We still don't know if he's going to play. Hopefully we'll have an update for you on the mailbag which we record at noon on Friday, publishes for audio on Saturday. J.J. mcCarthy's good to go. And then still Brock Purdy Limited. Mac Jones practicing in full. So right now we're ranking Mac Jones will obviously stay updated on the 49ers situation. Ramandre Stevenson still not practicing with that toe injury. We talked about this game yesterday. Dave Dearness. They did sign Dearness Johnson. Sorry. But Travion Henderson would be what for you if Ramondre missed the game against.

[Jamie]

Atlanta, I would cautiously rank him as a top like 26 running back. Maybe he'd crack the top 24. I doubt. I don't think he'd be the only running back in New England. Mike Vrabel seemed really impressed with Terrell Jennings two weeks ago as kind of like their close it out running back. I think he called him the five minute running back, which is usually what you call somebody who's just going to grind the clock and do well enough to get a couple of first downs along the way. But he's available in 99% of leagues. I really do believe that it will be a tandem in New England no matter what they do at running back. And if there's no Ramandre, Trevion might lead the way. But it would be Jennings who's. Who's kind of a Hammerback himself also pitching in.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay, I can just give you one example. I have Trayvon Henderson on my bench right now. If Ramandre's out, I'll start him over. Either Kendrick Bourne or Christian Watson, something like that.

[Jamie]

Sure.

[Wayne Campbell]

Hassan Haskins missed practice again. Tony Pollard back to practicing in full. DeAndre Swift missed practice. We should definitely be rostering Kyle Manangai. It's not unusual for Swift to miss practice, but on a Wednesday, on a Thursday, it's a little more concerning here.

[Dave]

I think he actually missed Thursday, one of the last two weeks too.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay. Yeah, I think you're right because I remember everyone making a dash to get Manon Guy and Swift played. But it is a great matchup and just monitor it. Woody Marks was limited. Pacheco missed practice and Cam Scatter Boo should be ready for training camp. All right, Wide receiver news Detroit. Their offensive coordinator John Morton said he has failed Jameson Williams. They want to get him the ball more. I don't know if it's going to be the week, but if you have Jameson Williams could have a good second half. Let's hope Pukinaku is going to play Lab. McConkey was limited with a calf issue. Is anybody worried about that one?

[Dave]

Not yet, no.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay. Christian Kirk looks like he's going to play. Nico Collins is going to play. According to Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk, the Eagles. I think I said this one yesterday. They're unofficially shopping. A.J. brown. No. Terry McLaurin.

[Jamie]

What does that mean?

[Wayne Campbell]

I don't know.

[Dave]

I heard something yesterday where they're just, they're. They're listening to offers, right? They, you know, everybody knows that he's upset. So it's a matter of, you know, will they get something that overwhelms them. I'd be very surprised if they trade him.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay. Drake London, limited Darnell Mooney, practice in full. We don't know yet about Drake, London. That one. That's one we're gonna have to monitor. Josh Downs, though. He practiced in full yesterday. I said that all of the Bears wide receivers missed practice while Odunze and DJ Moore, they were limited. Cooper cup was limited with heel and hamstring issues. Still no. Calvin Ridley, Brian Thomas Jr. And Travis Hunter were both limited. Josh Palmer was limited, Rashid Shahid was limited. And Ricky Pierce all missed practice. Again, we do have some tight end news. Zach Jackson of the Athletic thinks the Browns will trade either David Najoku or Jerome Ford. They've been replaced by rookies, so those guys could be on the move. Which means you should hold on to both Najoku and Fannin during the bye week and we'll see what happens. Cole Commet, limited again. So, Jamie, how do you feel about Loveland? Who was your favorite tight end streamer with commit? Getting two limited sessions in.

[Dave]

I think you just gotta at this point figure that he's a desperation play, a good pivot, maybe to Gunner Helm if Choco Conko doesn't play. Okako has been on the injury party to the last two days, so just looking at what his opportunities might be, that's somebody that I'm going to keep my eye on. But I did some DFS lineups last night. I put Loveland in just with the hope of, you know, he's been running more routes lately. Commit still banged up to receiver injuries for the. For the Bears. I wouldn't surprise. I wouldn't be surprised if Loveland still has a good game. But I Not the same amount of confidence. Clearly.

[Wayne Campbell]

Dalton Schultz missed practice. He may not play this week. Kyle Pitts was limited. Pat Fryermuth did practice in full. Jamie mentioned Chico Conquo missing practice and Daniel Bellinger missed practice for the Giants offensive line. Mentioned how Carolina is beat up. Kansas City guard Trey Smith was limited. That's great. News for them. Giants right tackle Jermaine Illuminor. He said he's going to play, but he's been missing practice. Chargers guard Mikai Bechton may not play this week. Washington left tackle Laramie Tunsil missed practice. I'm looking forward to talking about that game later. Pittsburgh guard Isaac say A Malu missed practice and Christian Dara saw practice in full on Wednesday. This is Minnesota's star left tackle. He practiced in full on Wednesday. He did not practice yesterday. And I just want to bring out like J.J. mcCarthy. He didn't play with Christian Darasol. Darasaw missed both of those games. So I mean, I'm eager. I didn't play with Jordan Addison either. I'm interested to see what he can do if he's got a full, you know, he's got a tough matchup but full assortment of players on his side.

[Jamie]

Right. But that would mean Brian o' Neal would have to be back at right tackle.

[Wayne Campbell]

Also fair.

[Jamie]

Like part of the problem for the Vikings last week is they ended up without both of their starting tackles in the game against the Chargers.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay, all right, that's it for the news and notes. We do have some defensive injuries, but I think you're probably all ready to move on Sunday, 11am Eastern. Join us YouTube.com fantasy football today we'll be answering your questions until kickoff and Dave wanted to know what would happen if Wayne and Garth met Batman. Dave, you know what I think they would say? We're not worthy. We're not worthy. We're not worthy. We suck.

[Dave]

Stop it already.

[Wayne Campbell]

We suck. All right, be right back with one question.

[Jamie]

All that stuff on your belt.

[Wayne Campbell]

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[Wayne Campbell]

I think one of the hairs from the wig just got in my throat, so this will be a fun, fun segment. Okay, one question for each game. Carolina's at Green Bay Starter sit Rico Dowdle.

[Dave]

Jamie Low end starter at best. Don't love the matchup. I still don't know what the split's gonna be from Dave Canales with Dowdle and Chuba Hubbard. And so you look at the last three games for the packers, it's under 10 PPR points for Jalen Warren, Donovan Knight and.

[Wayne Campbell]

Chase Brown.

[Dave]

And Chase Brown, yeah. So I think two of those guys are comparable to Rico Doddle. And the offensive line's still an issue for the Panthers in terms of injuries. Bryce Young is either going to play hurt or Andy Dalton's going to play her or Andy Dalton's going to play. So it's just, it's tough to say slam dunk for Eco. Dottle. So I'd rather start Kareem Hunt. I'd rather start Woody Marks. I'd rather start Bam Bam Knight. Bam Knight's the best player ever by the way.

[Jamie]

Dark Knight, the Bad night.

[Dave]

That's right. Yes. I'm trying to think the one that I keep going back and forth with would be Henderson. If Henderson is the full time guy there, I still start. Doubtable, but it's close.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right, Minnesota's at Detroit. Dave, who's a better flex in this game, Jordan Addison or David Montgomery?

[Jamie]

Format dependent. If it's non ppr, I'll lean toward Montgomery on the hope that he scores and gets enough rushing yards. I'm nervous about Darasaw playing the offensive line from Minnesota, J.J. mcCarthy playing well. And so I've lowered expectations for both Jefferson and Addison. Both of them are number two receivers. Addison a low end, Jefferson a high end. If it's full ppr, I might lean toward Addison.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay.

[Jamie]

Also. Also, yeah. Do you think, like, the wig company used like, housewife wigs as, like the same thing as the Garth and Wayne wigs? Because I don't feel like Garth, like, Garth had a little more volume to his hair and Wayne did, too.

[Wayne Campbell]

I don't know.

[Jamie]

But I don't feel like I'm an authentic Garth over here is what I'm saying.

[Wayne Campbell]

Oh, I think you look pretty good. I mean, all you need is the Aerosmith T shirt, then you'd be pretty authentic. Okay. But David Montgomery, by the way, now for the second time in his Detroit tenure, has gone two straight games without a touchdown. Will he have three straight games? San Francisco is at the Giants. Jamie, who's the best wide receiver receiver in this game?

[Dave]

Wanda Robinson.

[Wayne Campbell]

Dave. Agreed.

[Dave]

Agreed.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay. I think just one thing to keep in mind, like the wide receivers for the passing game for the Niners has been really bad the last couple of weeks. They faced Atlanta and Houston this week. The Giants are probably going to be missing their starting cornerbacks. I think just could be a little bit better of a situation for the Niners passing game. Seattle at Washington. Jamie, back to you again. How much faith do you have in the Washington passing game? We talk about Debo Samuel, Zach Ertz in a great matchup. How much faith do you have in them?

[Dave]

I think Debo Samuel just by default is a low end, number two receiver, high end, number three receiver, depending on what you're looking at. Hopefully, you know, the fact that he's practicing full the heel injury is behind him. This has been the setup for him that he's had the most success, which is no Terry McLaurin, Jane Daniels under center. And so, you know, it's, it's not easy. Seattle has given up some big numbers to number one receivers at this point at this, at times this season. But it's going to be a struggle. I have the most faith, honestly, in Earth just because of how bad Seattle's been against tight ends. Last time we saw them play, it was Dalton Schultz going crazy. And this has been the best setup for, for, for Earth as well. You know, McLaurin missing and really just Jane Daniels. All of his bad games so far this season for Earth have come with Marcus Mario to under center. So Ertz Is number one tight end this week.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay. New Orleans is at the Rams. Dave is Chris Olave. A must start with Tyler Schuck.

[Jamie]

Yes. Especially in full and half ppr. I don't think they're going to pull away from him. The targets have been too good. I actually have it pulled up. 13, 10, 14, 6, 11, 10, 7, 12. That's. Yeah, that's his target numbers. Every game this year, I think you pencil them in for double digit targets, even with shock.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay, Would you start Olavi or Debo Samuel?

[Jamie]

A lot of. I soured on Debo doing research earlier this week.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right, well, okay. All right, well, we'll go to that, I guess when we get to the game, because I couldn't, I couldn't figure out what's going on with Debo Samuel. I don't know if it's the injury, if the target share has gone down. It's. It's not like he's bad when McLaurin plays. It's not like he's bad. It's not like it's quarterback dependent. He's just been terrible. All right, we'll talk about that in a little bit. Arizona's at Dallas. Rank these three. Jamie Donovan Knight, George Pickens, Marvin Harrison Jr. Bam.

[Dave]

Knight is number one in every category. I would go Pickens, Harrison, Night Pickens, Harrison Knight.

[Wayne Campbell]

And what would you do with Harrison's ranking? If is he. Does it matter who his quarterback is?

[Dave]

No.

[Wayne Campbell]

Yes, it does.

[Jamie]

I'm more encouraged if it's percent oh, that's so sad. Just from what I've seen the last two weeks.

[Dave]

Yeah, But I'm still starting him no matter what.

[Jamie]

Agreed. But I'm, I'm moving them up a little bit if it's percent all right.

[Wayne Campbell]

Guys, let's get a little scary here. Let's get to the scary games for Sunday. Every game today will have a name of the game. Carolina is at Green Bay. The name of the game that I use every year, Tommy Tremble. Okay. Okay. How do we feel about 10 McMillan? Guys?

[Jamie]

Dave, I'm digging him. I like him as a number two receiver, especially in full ppr. It's the same story with him every week. Lots of targets. Game script is going to be in his favor. I wouldn't surprise me if he was close to what he did last week.

[Wayne Campbell]

Oh, that was a big week. That was like 90 something yards.

[Dave]

Right.

[Wayne Campbell]

What was last week for McMillan? Seven catches, 99 yards. Okay. Is he the best Jacobs? Well, he's the best receiver in this game, but yes, he's not the best catcher.

[Jamie]

Craft is better.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right.

[Jamie]

Or tremble. I'm just kidding. Not Trump.

[Wayne Campbell]

This is kind of an easy game. Except for Dowdle. Right. Start Jacobs. Start McMillan. Start Kraft.

[Dave]

A lot of questions.

[Wayne Campbell]

Yeah, it's not that easy.

[Dave]

Right.

[Wayne Campbell]

It's love. And the packers receivers are tough. We'll get back to Dowdle. How would you rank Dowdle with the. With Dobbs, Watson, Golden.

[Dave]

I think he's safer than those guys because at least, you know, he's going to get his touches, you know, with the packers receivers. The. The question is, you know, with Watson back last week, we saw Dobbs take a downturn in targets, which is like. Is something that he needs, especially if he's not finding the end zone. Golden is just at this point, as we talked about on Tuesday, you know, droppable, which sucks because I still think there's plenty of upside there, but too many mouths to feed. In the case of Dowdle, again, you know, it's. What's the split going to be? You know, Dave Canalis, I appreciate his honesty, you know, and, and how he's approached this. And so is this going to be all. Rico Doddles are going to be 70, 30? Is it going to be, you know, 60, 40? And just a slight favor for, for him in terms of playing time and, and touches. So I think you just have to be a little bit cautious with Dattle. This is a really good packers run defense. You know, if this was the case and they're playing the Dolphins again or the, the Cowboys again, you'd be like, okay, I don't care what the split is. I'm starting him no matter what. But it's. It's just with Green Bay's defense, it's tough to trust.

[Wayne Campbell]

What the hell is going on? Why is he here?

[Jamie]

Halloween.

[Wayne Campbell]

Happy Halloween.

[Dave]

Nandoeen.

[Wayne Campbell]

Nando is Halloween. What are you doing here? Dave told me to come. What's up?

[Jamie]

I invited him to the Halloween party, man. Excellent.

[Wayne Campbell]

He wanted me to come say, hi, I'm Dave Azer, speech coach for Halloween. I'm just walking around with the phone in the background. You're being my brother for Halloween. Good for you.

[Dave]

Is that weird?

[Wayne Campbell]

Yes, it's weird. Everything about you is weird. I know Azer and I haven't talked in months since he engineered me not being able to come on the draft a thon cleverly. And so I stopped texting him first, and we haven't talked basically since. What are you gonna be for Halloween?

[Host/Announcer]

I'm Dave Azer, speech coach.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay, well, you're doing great.

[Host/Announcer]

Wait till you see what I'm dragging.

[Wayne Campbell]

On the ground like a typical azer. What are you dragging on the ground? No, I'm joking. I'm joking.

[Dave]

Okay.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right, listen, we got our bar top. Yeah. Thank you, Dave. Oh, I just got that. I just got that. Very good. Why. Why is he here? Can we at this point? I'll go, hey, couldn't he say to.

[Jamie]

Help us get through this game?

[Wayne Campbell]

No.

[Jamie]

Give us some starts. Yes, he can.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right, Nando, who's your favorite?

[Jamie]

Maybe even some, like, speech tips.

[Wayne Campbell]

Who's your favorite? Why don't we talk about my record.

[Jamie]

In what triathathon league?

[Wayne Campbell]

Even though I played the league, I wasn't allowed on the show. I think I'm eight. No. Are you really? I might be better than the year I stole all Dave's rankings just to piss him off.

[Jamie]

Hey, wait a minute.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right, come on. We're going so off track and I know. Thank you for coming on. Happy Halloween. That's great. We could do that without him.

[Dave]

No.

[Jamie]

Yes.

[Wayne Campbell]

Adam, I'm gonna make you hit the forced to leave studio button. Oh, there.

[Jamie]

Nando is tied for first at 6 and 2. He has scored the third most points. He is ahead of all of us.

[Wayne Campbell]

Yeah, that's good.

[Jamie]

The great eight. It's almost eight.

[Wayne Campbell]

No, I. I missed so much. How do you rank? Who's your favorite packers receiver?

[Dave]

Watson.

[Jamie]

I think I still have Dobbs. The highest.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay, start craft. Let's see. Anything. Oh, Jordan Love. Dave Starter said Jordan Love.

[Jamie]

I'm worried about him not throwing a lot, and when he doesn't throw a lot, his numbers tend to go down. I feel like this is not just a Josh Jacobs game, but maybe like a running game overall for Green Bay. So I would hesitate to start Jordan Love.

[Dave]

He has three games this season over 20 fantasy points. All three of them have been when he's been 30 past attempts or more.

[Jamie]

Caleb Williams is ahead of him.

[Dave]

If he doesn't get to 30 past attempts, is he going to be trustworthy enough now he can get you. You know, he could have the Matthew Stafford game because I think the Panthers defense isn't necessarily one to fear, but I would probably lean. Like, I'm surprised that his projections, you know, just. He was great last week against Pittsburgh, but his again, his past attempts were up. So I. I don't know. I think he's a low end, number one quarterback at best.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay.

[Dave]

You.

[Wayne Campbell]

Would you also start Caleb Williams over him?

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Wayne Campbell]

Flacco or Jordan Love? If Flacco Plays Flacco if.

[Dave]

If Flacco gets in a full practice report on Friday and we're not, you know, concerned about game day. Question mark. I mean, you'll know obviously on Sunday with the enactors, but I just feel like Flaco's a little nerve wracking. Just wrong. Hit the shoulder. You know, he's a 40 plus year old guy at this point.

[Wayne Campbell]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to read some questions that.

[Jamie]

Make you nervous about the Bengals receivers too.

[Dave]

James more so Higgins than Chase. But I mean, I would start Chase if, you know, Wayne was the quarterback swing.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay. Jordan lover or Cardinals quarterback?

[Dave]

Cardinals quarterback. Too much upside down.

[Jamie]

I agree.

[Wayne Campbell]

Rank these players. Rico Dowdle, Aaron Jones, Debo Samuel. Ppr.

[Dave]

Debo. Rico Jones.

[Jamie]

I think I have Rico Debo Jones. Jones is definitely third on the list.

[Wayne Campbell]

Craft or Gadsden?

[Dave]

Craft.

[Jamie]

Agreed.

[Wayne Campbell]

Watson or Rico Dowdle Is Jamie Said. Rico.

[Jamie]

I. I agree.

[Wayne Campbell]

Dobbs or Slayton? Half ppr.

[Dave]

I go Slayton.

[Jamie]

Could it be Slayton?

[Wayne Campbell]

Really?

[Jamie]

Oh, wait, wrong Dana Carvey impression. Oh, no. I go top side.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right. Dobbs at six targets last week wasn't great. By the way, if you're asking about Tucker Kraft. Let's see. Carolina. I don't even have where they rank against tight ends.

[Dave]

Not good.

[Wayne Campbell]

They're not that bad against tight ends, though. They've like, they face tough ones.

[Jamie]

10 or not 10.9 and a 10.9 or fewer half PPR points to tight ends in five of their past six games. I do not care.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay, I know, I know we're obviously starting craft, but every week we get a lot of craft or Kittle crap like craft or Gads. And because he's. He's not. He wasn't taken super early. So I think people have some tough craft calls. But okay, let's just start him.

[Jamie]

And I think anybody who's been rolling at tight end is. Is a go along with Kittle and Bowers ahead of craft. Okay, rolling meaning like Ferguson's been awesome. Tyler Warren has been awesome. Trey McBride has been awesome. Like, I'll start those guys ahead of Tucker Craft.

[Dave]

I start craft ahead of Ferguson's week.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right, finish up with some more Rico Dowdle stuff. Rico Dowdle or Stefan Digg?

[Jamie]

Is that me who went out or you guys who went out?

[Wayne Campbell]

Oh, sorry. Or Stefan Diggs.

[Dave]

I would go Dowdle and non and half.

[Jamie]

I might go digs and I don't even know if I'll go digs in full.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay.

[Jamie]

It's close.

[Wayne Campbell]

Dowdle. Doubt I asked Dowdle or Tracy, Right? Someone had that in the chat.

[Dave]

I don't know if Tracy.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right, last one. Dowdle or Xavier Worthy at Buffalo? We're not worthy, man.

[Jamie]

I don't know. That means I go down.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay, Packers DST is top three for Jamie and Dave. Next game, Minnesota is at Detroit. Ooh, name of the game. Aiden and Abetton. Hutchinson or David? Okay, stat of the game. The Vikings see the second fewest pass attempts in the, in the NFL on a per game basis. Jared Goff has thrown fewer than 30 passes, six straight games. The Lions are 30th in pass rate. So is that kind of what we're expecting? Jamie, a lot of running, maybe about 30 passes for, for Detroit?

[Dave]

I would think that's fair. You know, I mean, we'll, we'll see if the, the home magic comes into play here for Jared Goff. They're clearly heavy favorites. I mean, you're, you're, you know who you're starting. You're starting for sure. Jameer Gibbs and Amara St. Brown. And then it comes down to what your quarterback situation looks like. I think golf will finish as a top 10 quarterback this week. I don't know if it'll be a monster game, but I think good enough, you know, 22 plus points. Montgomery is, you know, touchdown dependent, but we've seen this, you know, Vikings run defense at times just be awful this season. So it's a, it's a good chance for Montgomery, especially in a closing role, to, you know, get into the end zone. And then Laporta and, and Jameson Williams, you know, you, you read the report about Jameson, hopefully trying to get him going coming off the bye week. So if you're desperate, I think he's a, you know, good boom or bust number three receiver with the hope that we see an uptick in targets. This is typically the type of setup that he does well. It just makes him tough to trust based on the body of work this season. And then for Laport, I, I mean, if you want to say Gatson over him, if you want to say, you know, Craft. Based on the, the comment you mentioned about not being drafted ahead of Laporta, I, I can see that happening. I would probably stick with Laporta over Gaston and, and Kraft over Laporta, if that's the choice.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay, so you said Jameson Williams is a number three. Not trying to be that guy. But you guys have him 43rd, so that must mean there are a lot. Is Christian Watson a better play than, than Jameson Williams?

[Dave]

They're the same guy. And at least Watson, you know, first game back, was heavily involved in his offense where we've seen Jameson Williams not be the case. So I don't really look at the top 48 as, as, you know, breaking it down by 12. There's just too many good receivers, right? So, you know, when I get into the high, the low 40s, I still think that's number three receiver.

[Jamie]

Are we ready to believe John Morton? Are we ready to believe that the Lions are going to air it out in a game where they might not have to. They. They did something like that against Chicago earlier this year. I'm not sure if I. If I can buy all the way back in on JMO just because of a couple of comments from his coach or from reporters or what have you.

[Wayne Campbell]

So if we just talk about the passing game in general for the Lions, Jared Goff is, I think, somewhat similar to Jordan Love, right? Super talented, you know, great offense, but doesn't throw that much, doesn't run as much as Love. Obviously. Minnesota, like I said, they don't see a lot of pass attempts, but they've been pretty bad against the past six most yards per attempt in the NFL. The last two quarterbacks to face them, Jalen Hurts scored 30 points, Justin Herbert scored 31 points, and they both threw 23 to 25 passes in that game. So, you know, so you guys, like golf is on like a higher tier than Love, right?

[Jamie]

He is for me.

[Wayne Campbell]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

I don't have him as a top 10 quarterback, though.

[Dave]

I just.

[Jamie]

There are so many other quarterbacks I think have more upside than golf this week. I like him, but he's not top 12 for top 10.

[Wayne Campbell]

Would you start golfer Arizona quarterbacks?

[Jamie]

Probably Arizona quarterbacks.

[Dave]

I've.

[Jamie]

I've Kyler over him now. And if I like Brissette for fantasy more than Kyler, I would. I would probably start Brissette over golf, too.

[Dave]

I would go golf, golf.

[Wayne Campbell]

Or Caleb.

[Dave]

Caleb.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay. And then JMO's a boomer bus play Laporte. I'll give you a few more laportas. I. I know it was just said, I'm sorry, but Laporta or Gadsden?

[Jamie]

I'll take Gadston.

[Dave]

All right.

[Wayne Campbell]

The Porter for Dave. For. The Porter for Jamie Gaston. For Dave Laporta. Or like, you wouldn't start Colson Loveland over him, would you?

[Jamie]

Nope.

[Wayne Campbell]

He's an incredibly frustrating player. I mean, there's. There's no question. It's pretty annoying.

[Dave]

So.

[Wayne Campbell]

I don't know. I feel like I have won the Portal League And I don't even think about streaming. I just start them and I just deal with the consequences because, you know, there's big upside every week. But Ferguson versus the board is pretty interesting. Where would you guys go there?

[Jamie]

Ferguson.

[Wayne Campbell]

Interesting. Okay. On the other side. Oh, Montgomery. Yeah. Montgomery or Dowdle?

[Dave]

Montgomery.

[Jamie]

I have Montgomery.

[Dave]

Higher.

[Wayne Campbell]

You just think he's going to score this week?

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right. Because he's got one game with more than 12 carries, and it was that game, that homecoming game against Cincinnati with his sister in attendance where he. Didn't he throw a touchdown or something like that? Where they clearly were trying to get him going, but he's usually 12 carries. Minnesota doesn't have very good run defense, but. Okay, so Montgomery is a number two running back. Is he better than the Vikings running backs?

[Jamie]

Yes, way better.

[Wayne Campbell]

That's a situation we want to avoid, right? Like the plague.

[Jamie]

Yes, please.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Wayne Campbell]

Like, yeah, I'm gonna start them and monkeys are gonna fly out of my butt. Sorry.

[Dave]

Throw that in there.

[Jamie]

Don't say sorry. Halloween. You're Wayne Campbell. You're Wayne Campbell, man.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay, excellent. So, Dave, both Darasaw practiced in full their left tackle on Wednesday, then didn't practice Thursday. But o', Neill, their right tackle, has been limited both days. So again, we might see a better version of JJ McCarthy. Would you guys start Jordan Addison? He's tough. I mean, put it. Why wouldn't I start Jordan Addison? Hasn't he earned it? Isn't he. Is he a must start, basically, at.

[Jamie]

This point as a number two receiver? Sure.

[Dave]

Dave.

[Wayne Campbell]

Yeah, Jamie.

[Dave]

He's a borderline maybe start. And I mean that in two receiver leagues, only three receiver leagues are definitely starting him. It's. It's just one of those things where you want to see what this looks like with McCarthy, because it's the first game where they're together. It's the first game of McCarthy coming back after the extended absence. Like, there could be some issues here, and so I want to give Addison the benefit of the doubt. I don't think the secondary is one to run away from. I mean, they've played better than I think a lot of people expected, especially given the injuries of late. But my hope is we see Detroit build a big lead and Minnesota is forced to throw. And that was kind of what happened in week one for McCarthy. Right. He had the. You know, the. The Bears were playing with the lead and McCarthy had to make plays in the. In the third and fourth quarter. And we started to see him use his legs, and he looked good and Then, you know, got Jefferson involved. So I don't. I don't. I'm not. I'm certainly not running away from Addison, but he's not ranked in the top 20. I initially started the week with him there, but I think just taking a little bit of a step back because of what McCarthy may or may not do for him.

[Wayne Campbell]

Fair. Yeah. It's a wild card. The other good thing for. The good thing for Addison is that Kirby Joseph still missing practice. They're still beat up in the secondary, maybe getting a little healthier. The fact that they have a Lee McNeil back up front is big, but it is still a kind of a wounded secondary. And last thing here, but tell that.

[Jamie]

To Tampa, who thought that they'd be able to take advantage of that and they couldn't.

[Wayne Campbell]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

Meek. Robinson.

[Wayne Campbell]

Robinson's back. I thought. I don't think Branch is back. I thought he's been missing one game suspension.

[Jamie]

He's definitely back.

[Wayne Campbell]

Yeah. No, I'm sorry. I was thinking Kirby Joseph, but Carlton Davis is out. Right. So T.J. hawkins and Davis isn't on the line. I can't. I always do that with the.

[Jamie]

That's what I did with Greg Dulcich.

[Wayne Campbell]

Yeah. No. Who's their second quarter cornerback? D.J. reed.

[Dave]

Sorry.

[Wayne Campbell]

I always do that with them. He's out. Okay. T.J. hawkinson starter. Sit.

[Jamie]

I would try and sit him.

[Dave]

I would, too.

[Jamie]

Although I must say it is better for him if both tackles play.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay.

[Jamie]

Might not be asked to Chip as much. I don't. I don't know if we know the status of Josh Oliver, but if he's out, then that'll open up more things for. For Hawkinson. If those tackles play, I'll be a little more encouraged in Jefferson, Addison and maybe even Hawkinson, too, but he wouldn't crack my top 12.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right, so that's Vikings at Lions. Lions. DST is a start.

[Jamie]

Yeah, but the Vikings.

[Wayne Campbell]

DST is not Lions or Rams.

[Jamie]

Rams.

[Dave]

Rams.

[Jamie]

Rams are number one.

[Wayne Campbell]

Lions or Patriots?

[Jamie]

Patriots are number two.

[Wayne Campbell]

Lions.

[Jamie]

Why don't you ask us? Lions or Seahawks?

[Wayne Campbell]

No, Lions are Chargers at Tennessee.

[Jamie]

I have Lions ahead of everybody except the Rams, Patriots and Seahawks.

[Dave]

Chargers significantly ahead for me.

[Wayne Campbell]

Lions or Mr. Big. Okay. Right. Isn't that his name?

[Dave]

Okay.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right.

[Jamie]

I think so. Yes.

[Wayne Campbell]

What was I going to say?

[Dave]

Not. Not the.

[Jamie]

Not the Wayne's World reference I was expecting.

[Wayne Campbell]

I couldn't think of a good one. I don't know. Benjamin. We're out of here.

[Jamie]

We'll be.

[Wayne Campbell]

We're not out of here. We'll be right back. We're going to take a break. We got four games left. San Francisco's at the Giants. Upset alert now. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football Today.

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[Wayne Campbell]

San Francisco's at the Giants. Name of the game, Giants punter Jamie Killen Gillen or JB Villain. That was all I could come up with for that game. Okay, Giants are at giants hosting the 49ers.

[Dave]

I mean, it just. It's unfortunate that we had the injury because you had Cam Scatter boot.

[Wayne Campbell]

Oh, Cam Scatter Boo. Is it's so sad that he's not playing on Halloween weekend because he's perfect for it. Absolutely. Although this is in Halloween weekend. I guess last week was. Once November comes around, Halloween is over and you are not allowed to dress up or celebrate Halloween. All the decorations must be removed. It's the rules. You don't know the rules. Oh, I forgot to say we'll be right back before the next break. Damn it. I had all these things planned. Okay, San Francisco at the Giants. And Jamie break down the passing game for the Niners for me. Who are you if any one other than Kittle excited to start?

[Dave]

I'm not excited to start any of them, but, you know, Jennings is a number three receiver, seven targets each of the last two weeks. Said this many times throughout the last week, especially talking about the quarterbacks that it was Atlanta when they're playing well and then Houston and that's a tough two game stretch for any passing attack. And so I think in looking at it like Kendrick Bourne, I'm just not as encouraged by it because the last two weeks have been down for him from a target perspective. It coincides with George Kittle coming back again coincides with those two matchups. But I think he's got to factor in personnel more so than the defense that they're facing. So I'm hoping that certainly when Purdy comes back, that's the best of Juwan Jennings. I definitely want to roster him. He was 64 roster going into Tuesday, so he should be on your team if you need him as number three receiver. He's my favorite of the of the group. But really it's just Kittle and McCaffrey as must start guys.

[Jamie]

If we're going to talk about cornerback injuries in Detroit, we have to talk about them for the Giants too.

[Wayne Campbell]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

Paulson Adibo. No practice yet this week. He might miss the game. He's their best cover corner. Cordell Flots and concussion protocol. I don't know if he's likely to play. Art Green hasn't practiced this week. Those are three of maybe their top four or five corners on the squad. They're going to be going with Deontay Banks, who's been burned a ton of over his career, maybe playing a little bit better this year. Drew Phillips is their slot corner. The 49ers receivers are gonna have some good matchups on the outside. And if Brock Purdy's back, I feel like that's. That's an upgrade for the Whiteouts too. So not that I'm racing to start Jennings or Born, but they're gonna have probably a better setup.

[Wayne Campbell]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

Than they would normally have because of this matchup.

[Wayne Campbell]

Absolutely.

[Dave]

Just keep in mind though, it. It's a similar personnel situation to what they had last week when the Giants were all beat up and it was Goddard scoring two touchdowns. We thought Devonte Smith was going to be an absolute monster. He wasn't. The run game was good for the Eagles taking on the Giants defense. So this could be another McCaffrey, Kittle and maybe somebody else steps up.

[Wayne Campbell]

I mean, I guess so. But Smith had six catches for 84 yards on nine targets.

[Dave]

Right.

[Wayne Campbell]

He had a good game. Yeah.

[Dave]

He played very well. I thought Smith was going to be nuclear, you know, without A.J. brown there. So again, sliding scale. I think that they're. You treat them as number three receivers like I'M not. This is the most encouraged I've been by Jennings in a month. Right, right.

[Wayne Campbell]

You know what? It's a good. It's a good DFS play. It's just a. It's a great matchup. And what we've seen the last couple of weeks, as soon as those guys got hurt, it was third quarter, basically, of the Denver game. They gave up 33 points in a quarter. And then last week, they got destroyed by the Eagles. So their. Their defense is falling apart with the absence of their defensive backs. And it's even worse now than. Even though they might get. They might get their safety, Javon Hollen back, it's even worse now than it was, you know, going into the Philadelphia game. All right, so if. Okay, Rogers, Rogers or 49ers.

[Dave]

Who.

[Wayne Campbell]

Which are 49 Rogers or a 49ers quarterback?

[Dave]

Rogers Rogers. Really?

[Wayne Campbell]

Darnold or 49ers quarterback?

[Dave]

Darnold.

[Jamie]

You might talk me into Purdy over Darnold.

[Wayne Campbell]

And you said that Wandale, you said Dave Wanda was your favorite receiver in this game, even though all the things we just said about the Niners.

[Jamie]

Yeah, listen, the one thing about the 49ers that helps the Giants is they have nothing in their pass rush. So Jackson Dart's gonna have time to throw. That could be good for Slayton. I have him a little higher than I normally do. It's going to be good for Wandale, might even be good for Theo Johnson. But I. I think Dart will have an okay day passing, and that's on top of his rushing.

[Wayne Campbell]

Would you start, you know, the Safe Wondale Robinson, or. I'll throw it to you, Dave Keon Coleman, you know, in this boom. Opportunity.

[Jamie]

I don't care what kind of an opportunity Keon has, I can't trust.

[Wayne Campbell]

But why, like, this is going to be the first. Alan never throws the ball. He's going to throw the ball this week. It's going to happen.

[Jamie]

I think Jackson Dart's going to throw the ball a decent amount, too, though. And Wondale's been getting a lot of good volume.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay, then fine. How about Khalil Shakira over. These guys would at least go that way.

[Jamie]

I know what you're doing.

[Wayne Campbell]

Damn it. All right. All right. I'm gonna have to pivot. I'm gonna have to pick a different game. I'd have to pick a different.

[Jamie]

No, you're not.

[Wayne Campbell]

There's only one game because that's of the week. Yeah. The Bills and the Chiefs on cbs, folks. And it's the game of the week. Hey, do you have red rope licorice? Look at that.

[Jamie]

No, they're drumsticks.

[Wayne Campbell]

Oh, they're drumsticks. I thought they were red rope licorice that you were using as drumsticks.

[Jamie]

They were used at a Blackhawks game. That's why they're red.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay, cool. All right. Giants are interesting here. Jamie talked to me about Tyrone Tracy and did the Giants in general. All right. Jackson Dart or a 49ers receiver, who.

[Dave]

Do you like better, Jackson Darter, 49ers.

[Wayne Campbell]

Receiver or 49ers quarterback?

[Dave]

I go dart.

[Wayne Campbell]

Christian McCaffrey or Tyrone Tracy?

[Dave]

I would go Christian McCaffrey over two.

[Wayne Campbell]

Tyrone Tracy's Tyrone Tracy or any wide receiver in this game.

[Dave]

Tyrone Tracy.

[Wayne Campbell]

Do you like Tracy?

[Jamie]

I would. I wouldn't mind starting two. Tyrone Tracy's on my fan.

[Wayne Campbell]

Tracy Jr. And senior Jamie. Do you like. How much do you like Tracy? Give me. Lay it out for me.

[Dave]

I think he's a good number two running back. You know, we'll see. The wild card is Devin Singletary and what happens with his role. And look, we've seen this for Tracy in his rookie season where he's had some good matchups. We thought he's gonna get volume and he struggled. So I don't want to say it's slam dunk for Tyrone Tracy, but you're just looking at opportunity. You know, Cam Scatter, Boo's got so many touches. He's been very successful. He's worked in the passing game. Tracy's now going to step into that role. You talked about this, comparing him to his rookie season, the offensive lines in better shape mostly just because Andrew Thomas is there. And I think the quarterback play will hopefully be better as well with Jackson dart. So it's a 49ers defense that's been absolutely abysmal against running backs for the last five games. And so Tracy's got a huge opportunity here. It's just will he get those touches that we're hoping for? Will he be the goal line guy? You know, we've talked about this could be Devin Singletary. I think he's going to be a three down running back. So there's a huge ceiling for him here. I just don't know where the floor lies because it could be awful if it's not the. The type of work that we're looking for here from all aspects. So to me, he's a. He's a good number two running back and I'm excited to start.

[Wayne Campbell]

I. My biggest question for him is just Is he going to be the goal line guy? Are they going to use Singletary? Don't know. They kind of split it last year when they were both healthy at the end of the season. So, yeah, the 49ers, I think they've allowed 15.1 or more PPR fantasy points to a running back in six of eight games. And. All right, so Wandale is like a number three receiver. Darius Slayton's in that boom bust. Number three, number four status, Theo Johnson. Anybody want to start Theo Johnson?

[Dave]

I do. I'm starting him this week again. You know, you look at his, his stretch with Dart, it's been two bad games, and the two bad games were against the same team against Philadelphia. So, you know, Dave said it. The, the opportunity is there. I, I think Dart will throw a little bit more just because maybe the lack of faith in, in the run game or production in the run game from the switch to, from Scatterboot to tracy. But the 49ers struggled against tight ends as well, so there's a, there's a chance for him to come in here and be a good target, you know, a productive target at least. And Daniel Bellinger is also dealing with a neck injury. He's not going to be there. So low end starter. You know, I, I wouldn't put much faith in him going back to Tuesday, if you're, if you're looking at what the percentages were. He was 67 rostered. Obviously love them. Was much, widely, much, much more widely available. I had it ranked with Johnson over, over Loveland and you know how much I like, love them with his matchup. So I think Theo Johnson's a good plug and play if he was available on waivers.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay, let me do some more Jackson darts here. Jackson dart or Jackson dart or Jordan Love? Jackson dart or Sam Darnold?

[Dave]

Dart Dart.

[Wayne Campbell]

Daniel Jones or Jackson Dart?

[Dave]

Jones.

[Jamie]

Daniel Jones.

[Wayne Campbell]

How do you think the Giants would feel about that?

[Jamie]

Question.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right, questions from the chat. Darius Slayton, Quentin Johnston or Jake Ferguson? Ppr.

[Dave]

Ferguson.

[Jamie]

Agreed.

[Wayne Campbell]

Kyler Murray or Purdy if he starts four point per passing. Touchdown. Jennings. Debo or Pierce?

[Jamie]

Debo.

[Dave]

Debo.

[Wayne Campbell]

Purdy or Stafford?

[Dave]

Stafford.

[Wayne Campbell]

Jennings or Keenan Allen?

[Dave]

Allen.

[Jamie]

Agreed.

[Wayne Campbell]

Wanda or Travis Hunter? Oh, a split there. Cortland Sutton. Sutton or Juwan Jennings?

[Jamie]

Sutton.

[Wayne Campbell]

Dart or Caleb Williams? Four point?

[Jamie]

Dart.

[Dave]

Dart.

[Jamie]

Really?

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay, 49ers or Giants four point, that's even easier. I know. I mean, I guess could have a rushing touchdown. 49ers or Giants DS.

[Jamie]

We got to pick one of these DSTs. It would be the Niners.

[Dave]

Okay.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right. And that's it for that game. We are on to Seattle at what? Eric? Oh, oh, no. I missed all my scary music. Where is it? Oh, Seattle. From the state of Washington, traveling to the districts of Columbia. Washington. The name of the game, of course, is Washington tight end John Bates Motel. Okay, stat of the game. Ken Walker has two carries from the three yard line or closer. Both of them were in week three with Zach Charbonnet out. And Charbonnet has the second most touchdowns from the one or two yards yard line. And the only guy who has more is Javante Williams. Washington's run defense has been really bad three straight weeks. Can Jay, can we trust any running back in this game?

[Jamie]

I think the running back you trust the most is Walker, but it's with low end number two running back expectations. You're hoping that he gets a little more work and that the game script is favorable for him and for Charbonnet. The next running back that I think I like after those two is McNichols. Because if, if the Seahawks build a lead and, and run the ball a lot, and I think they're going to try and run the ball a lot, then it means that the commanders are going to have to be in come from behind pass heavy mode and that's when McNichols plays. We got a taste of what that looks like last week and the production wasn't so bad.

[Dave]

Okay.

[Wayne Campbell]

It's, it's not great. I mean, we're going to start Rico Dowdle over the. Over Walker or.

[Dave]

No, I have a right running backs over Dow.

[Jamie]

Do you? Okay. Yeah.

[Dave]

And Charbonnet is actually my favorite one. I just think in terms of trust, he's the easiest one to trust.

[Wayne Campbell]

Well, but, but you know the deal. If he doesn't score a touchdown, he's gonna have a terrible game.

[Dave]

And Walker has been what, like, I mean, you know. No, I can certainly understand if we were, if we were getting great production from Walker.

[Wayne Campbell]

No, I go, I'd go down. I'm saying I go downtown over both.

[Dave]

Oh, you can go that route, sure. But I, I think that we're, we're going to get touchdown opportunities for Charbonnet. He's delivered in three of his last four games, four touchdowns over that span. So there's at least enough of a track record and the defense that he's facing to buy into him getting those chances. You know it for me and you know, again using the word trust, Walker is more of a hope, hope that they went into their bye week and saw that he's got still some juice left and can be explosive, hope that he breaks a big run against this defense, hope that maybe we get the game that we saw last time from him where he had 17 carries, as opposed to 10 in each of the previous two. So, you know, is he going to get those. Those chances? I still think he's number two running back, so I'll take the chance on Charbonnet finding the end zone and Walker maybe being explosive in his matchup versus Dowdle and what he's got to face against Green Bay, and I'd go.

[Jamie]

I'd go the other way on that, but I do have them ranked relatively close to each other. I just. I. I don't think there's any question about Walker's juice. I think he can still run and he's still easily the more explosive of the two. And I don't necessarily think that the Seahawks are going to say, all right, you know what? Enough's enough. We're gonna sit Charbonnet and Walker's just gonna get, you know, every single snap. I don't think that's happening. I think they like what they're what. What they have planned, and I think they'll keep using that, but I don't think it's going to mean that Walker takes a seat in the second half. I think he's gonna get a little bit more work than normal because I'm not expecting it to be a competitive game. I certainly don't expect Seattle to be chasing points in this game. And this Washington defense, it's old and it's slow, and that just sets up for Walker to have a bunch of explosive runs, and he's easily the more explosive of the two. So I'm going to take the chance on that over Charbonnet and the hope that he finds the end zone.

[Wayne Campbell]

I. I don't know. I mean, it. Charbonne has outscored over their last four games. Charbonnet has outscored Walker three times and tied him once because neither of them catch the ball. So it's like that could obviously change, but Darnold just is not throwing to his running backs. He isn't throwing that much to begin with. Right. It really is probably going to come down to touchdowns, and Charbonnet clearly has a much bigger edge there. But Dave, I respect. I respect you. Respect. Okay, so none of the.

[Jamie]

Neither one of these guys. Jamie might have it differently, but I don't have either one in my top 20. These are low end number two rivals, and I like them both ahead of Jacori, Crosby, Merit. I have them both out of any Vikings running back, any Titans running back. I've got. I've got Walker ahead of Camara. I should probably have Charbonnet out of Camara, too.

[Wayne Campbell]

I think I'm probably a little higher on Darnold than you guys are.

[Dave]

I think I like Darnold this week. Okay.

[Jamie]

He's got a great floor. He's. He's one of like maybe 18 quarterbacks that have that safe. 18.

[Dave]

This is. This is the perfect setup for him. It's what we've seen him have success since. So far this season, the two games prior to facing Houston, there's only been two quarterbacks this season that have failed to get to 20 fantasy points against this defense. And one of them was Herbert, who had 19.5. The other one was Russell Wilson in week one. Like, there's just a lot to love about this. Like you said, defense is. Is old, it's slow. They're missing their best pass rusher for the last two weeks or this will be the second week at least. It just. It just feels like Darnold could come in and have a big game.

[Wayne Campbell]

Yeah, no, unfortunately, you could argue that the. The Commanders may not put up a lot of points and he might not throw. I don't know that I like him more than you. I think. I think now that it. It's just a really, as you guys have said and Heath said yesterday, it's a really good week for quarterback. So Darnold being about 15th in the rankings is not an indictment on Darnold, but what I love about it. I said this on the waiver wire show. Darnold leads the NFL in yards per attempt. The Commanders are last in the NFL defensively in yards per attempt. They are a horrible pass defense. 21.9 or more fantasy points to six of eight quarterbacks, 29 fantasy points to three quarterbacks this year. You don't have to throw much to be good against Washington. So you can start him, but he's not a top 12 guy. We talked about Seattle running backs. We're going to start Jackson, Smith and Jigba. Any interest in Cooper Cup?

[Dave]

He was added to the injury report on. Oh, he was Thursday. So keep an eye on that. And if he's out, maybe Tory Horton, you know, can have a big player too. So desperate.

[Jamie]

Is he on the injury report too?

[Dave]

I didn't see a fortn was, but maybe I missed something.

[Jamie]

I'll double check.

[Dave]

Okay.

[Wayne Campbell]

And any interest in Seattle Tight End.

[Dave]

I mean type of guy.

[Wayne Campbell]

So desperation play Jamie as Dave looks that up. Jamie starter. Sit. Jaden Daniels, low end starter.

[Dave]

We talked about this on CBS Sports Network yesterday. I think we kind of all came to the same conclusion. Like we're putting him at 12, I think across the board mostly out of like hope and a little bit of fear because the defense is as good as it is. How healthy is the hamstring, doesn't have Terry McLaurin so you don't want to miss out on the upside of what it is. Like I don't necessarily buy Seattle blowing them out because Jaden Daniels is still good and can make plays and obviously keep this team in it. Plus they're at home so I think that they'll move the ball enough. It's just a matter of like where is he getting his production from. So I like Zach Ertz. As we talked about. I think Debo Samuel will have somewhat of a bounce back game. To what extent we'll find out. They're not going to run the ball so Daniel's going to have to put a lot on his shoulders. And so I think low end starter. Better than Darnold, better than Trevor Lawrence, better than for now 49ers quarterbacks. It comes down to like do you want to start Jackson Dart over him? Do you want to start Caleb Williams over him? Joe Flacco even over him. That's I think where some of the questions come into play. So we'll see how the injury report checks out for some of these guys. But I think Daniel Dane Daniels, low end started like I, I have him one league. I have him with Caleb Williams 10 team league. I'm starting Caleb Williams over.

[Jamie]

I would too. Injury report for Seattle. There's no Tory Horton on it but Devon Witherspoon, Devin Witherspoon full practice. So he'll be back. Leonard Williams is going to play. DeMarcus Lawrence is going to play. Derek hall is going to play. Is there anybody else? Julian Love hasn't practiced?

[Wayne Campbell]

No, he's.

[Jamie]

That's. That's like it like this secondary is getting healthy just in time for a banged up and depleted commander's offense. This, this is not going to be an easy game. It's very hard to rank Jaden Daniels as high as we normally would because of the situation.

[Wayne Campbell]

He's been pretty good guys. I mean his worst.

[Jamie]

Oh, he has. But the offensive line is going to be missing.

[Wayne Campbell]

Tunsil, I think tonsillitis.

[Jamie]

Yeah, right. And, and we know that scary Terry isn't going to play Who? Debo? You heard me.

[Wayne Campbell]

Very Terry. Okay, Dave, does this offense make you want to make you want to speak?

[Jamie]

Spew. If you're gonna spew, spew into this.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay, let's. I get it.

[Jamie]

Quick thing on Debo. I, I, Yes. I originally had him ranked pretty high this week I went back and I watched his snaps from last week. He can't separate right now and he's getting a bunch of short targets and it makes me nervous that he doesn't have anywhere near the same type of upside as he had earlier in this year. So count me out on him as a top 24 wide receiver, especially against this matchup.

[Wayne Campbell]

Jamie, you said Debo's like a default top 25 top 24 receiver, right?

[Dave]

He's low in number two receiver. I mean, again, this is the setup where he's had success and I don't know when his career he's ever been able to separate. So we'll see how he performs with his with hopefully, you know, an uptick in targets. And again, you know, last week, Mariota coming back from the injury. Two weeks now removed from the injury, not on the injury report. So I'm hoping that he's healthy. It's more hope than anything else.

[Wayne Campbell]

Zach Ertz is 11th for Jamie, 8th for Dave and 12th for Heath. Dave has him one spot ahead of Travis Kelsey or as someone in the chat said earlier, Travis Kelsey. Dave has him ahead of Kincaid and Gadsden. Jamie does not have him ahead of Kelsey or Gadsden or Kincaid. Yeah, you do have a head of Kincaid. Yes, but Earth is a low end starter. I'm going to read some chat questions to finish this game. Darnold or Flacco?

[Jamie]

Flacco. As of now.

[Wayne Campbell]

Debo. Aaron Jones or Chameri? Dk ppr Debo.

[Jamie]

I did not move Debo so far down that I would rather start dk.

[Wayne Campbell]

Jaden Daniels or Daniel Jones. Jones, Flex, Charbonnet, Gadsden or Henderson.

[Jamie]

The highest.

[Dave]

See about Henderson once the injury report comes out. But I would probably go Gatson.

[Wayne Campbell]

Pick two. Charbonnet. Kareem Hunt, Chase Brown.

[Jamie]

Hunt.

[Wayne Campbell]

Cooper. Cup, Tony Pollard. Taje Spears. Pick two.

[Dave]

I'm never starting both Titans running back, so I would go Spears and Cup.

[Wayne Campbell]

Yeah. Ken walker, Cortland Sutton.

[Dave]

PPR Sutton.

[Jamie]

Agreed.

[Wayne Campbell]

Darnold. Golfer. Caleb.

[Dave]

Caleb.

[Wayne Campbell]

Dart or Daniels?

[Dave]

4.5 Dart. Dart.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right, that's it for this game. Pardon me. All right, let's go to New Orleans. A terrifying trip to Los Angeles to face the Rams. Name of the game, Blake Gorham. Okay, Dave, let's make this game terrible. That's one of my favorite ones. Blake Gollum. Dave, let's make this game easy. Here starts and sits for the Saints and Rams.

[Dave]

If you want to say something scary, you should just said watch the Saints.

[Wayne Campbell]

Yeah. Tyler suck. Okay, Dave.

[Jamie]

The only Saint you can feel good about starting is Chris Olave. The only Ram you could feel nervous about starting. The only two that come to my mind are they're Tyler Higby and Blake Corum. You know, with everybody else that I.

[Wayne Campbell]

Didn'T say this is not exactly a start. Them all. Set them all. Because I think Rashid Shahid, I think the passing game is interesting. You could see them throwing a ton like they did last week. They threw 50.

[Jamie]

Yeah, but it's Tyler Shock and not Spencer Rattler. And so I would expect a slight downgrade, especially for Shahid, who's just so dependent on the deep ball to get huge numbers.

[Wayne Campbell]

Now look, Shahid got open for a deep ball. Should have been, I think a 34 yard touchdown and shuck missed them.

[Jamie]

Most of what that happens with shuck when it's not a fade.

[Wayne Campbell]

Happens with a lot of quarterbacks, unfortunately. But you know, deep balls are tough. But he was. It was a lot of get the ball out of your hand quickly, really short area, first read, boring, check down stuff. The kind of stuff you see, the kind of stuff we saw from Spencer Rattler at the beginning of this season. And then he. He got better and he started throwing downfield. But I could see like the old Chris Olave games with a lot of targets, a lot of catches, but really not a lot of yards. It's kind of, I think, to me, Jamie, what I could see from this passing game, which does make those guys pretty interesting in. In ppr. I know that we're mostly going to start Olave, I guess, real quick. Would you start Olave or Devonte Adams.

[Dave]

Adams.

[Jamie]

Adams.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right. Would you start olave or Giants 49ers receivers? And now same question. With Shahid versus the Giants and 49ers.

[Dave]

Receivers, I would start Robinson over Shahid, probably Jennings over Shahidu.

[Jamie]

I'd go Shahid over Jennings. They're. I feel like they're kind of the same, but she has a little more upside.

[Wayne Campbell]

Zach Ertz or Juwan Johnson? Johnson or Theo Johnson?

[Dave]

Theo.

[Jamie]

I have Joanne a little higher.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right. All right. Let's call him a top 15 guy. Top 16 guy. TJ Hawkinson or Theo Johnson?

[Dave]

Theo.

[Jamie]

I'll probably take the chance on Hawk if that offensive Line's okay.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right, so we're gonna do one thing.

[Dave]

Give me Joan, though, because we're talking about the Saints.

[Jamie]

Rank all three. Hawkinson, Juwan.

[Dave]

Theo.

[Jamie]

That's how I have it.

[Wayne Campbell]

Jamie Hawkins and Juan.

[Dave]

Theo. Oh, Theo. Joanne Hawkins.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right, Jamie, you talk about Camara and your expectations and who you'd start ahead of him and whatnot. And then, Dave, you do that with Stafford. Jamie, go.

[Dave]

I have very minimal expectations for Camaro to be successful in this game. The Rams defense is fantastic. Number two and fewest fantasy points allowed to the position. They have yet to allow a touchdown on the ground to a running back. Camara has not scored since week one. He's just not running very well. The offensive line's a mess since McCoy got hurt. It wasn't even great with McCoy in there. So coming off a buy, Ram should be able to swallow up Camara and not have to worry about him having a big game.

[Jamie]

But this is. This is the exact situation where we get fooled by the. The fantasy gods, right? Where here's the Rams. They've been awesome against the run and now Alvin Camara goes out and he has a bunch of touchdowns. But why? Because it's stupid and fantasy stupid sometimes. No, no, I'm just messing around. I'm not starting Alvin Kamara because of that. Give me a break.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right, Dave, you're up for Stafford.

[Jamie]

Stafford is a top 10 quarterback. He's got Nukua and Adams to throw to. The Saints defense isn't very good. We've seen the Rams even when the game script's been favorable. Stafford will throw five touchdowns. It's literally what they did in their last game. New Orleans offense is not going to be very good. The Rams defense should swallow them up and Stafford should have plenty of opportunities to have a hyper efficient game. He's almost a. He's basically a must start quarterback.

[Wayne Campbell]

Questions from the chat. Olave or Shakir? Non ppr Olave.

[Jamie]

I still have Olave over Shakir.

[Wayne Campbell]

Rams D is a must start, right? Yes.

[Jamie]

He is the best DST you could start this week in my opinion.

[Wayne Campbell]

Devonte Adams or George Pickens?

[Dave]

Adams.

[Jamie]

I think. I agree. I do.

[Wayne Campbell]

Kyle says it's a lovely like Frankenstein. That's good.

[Jamie]

That's clever.

[Wayne Campbell]

And Stafford. Finally someone with a clever Stafforder. Jaden Daniels.

[Dave]

Stafford.

[Jamie]

Agreed.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right, next game. Last game is just real quick.

[Dave]

Blake Gorham, not a bad desperation play. Got 12 carries last time they played in the blowout and may get similar type of run against the Saints. So it's not he didn't do much with he had 43 total yards in one catch in the game against Jacksonville but would not be surprising if he has a similar situation and and just in the same same scenario Emmanuel Wilson also you know if they blow out the Panthers sure see Some similar had 11 carries last week against the Steelers.

[Jamie]

A couple other running backs in that vein. In fact I like these guys better our Manangai with the Bears against Cincinnati. Cincinnati and we talked about Jeremy McNichols for a second. If it's full PPR, I don't mind.

[Wayne Campbell]

Him either last game.

[Jamie]

Oh, and Burchard Smith too.

[Wayne Campbell]

We could do better than this. Arizona at Dallas. Your name of the game. Trey McBride of Chucky.

[Dave]

Not bad.

[Wayne Campbell]

Thank you. That was another one of my favorites. Okay, favorite quarterback in this game, Dak Rain.

[Jamie]

Dakota Prescott.

[Wayne Campbell]

Second favorite wide receiver in this game, Pickens.

[Jamie]

George Pickens.

[Wayne Campbell]

Favorite tight end, McBride.

[Jamie]

Trey McBride of Frankenstein.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right, so the easy ones are Dak and Javante and Lamb.

[Jamie]

Pickens too.

[Wayne Campbell]

He's not that easy.

[Dave]

I I think Pickett's Harrison, no matter what, you're starting them well.

[Jamie]

Pickens for sure. Harrison, I think you're starting. Oh, you'd have to be really loaded at receiver to not Adam.

[Wayne Campbell]

How do you miss silence of the CD Lamb? Good question. Ooh, how about this one? Count Dakula. Okay, thank you. Kyler Murray and Jacoby Brissette, let's say they're ranked similarly. Dave, they are, you know, ahead of behind who, like, give me the range for these quarterbacks.

[Jamie]

Kyler is ahead of Goff Rogers, Lawrence Darnold, love Bo Nix and would would I move Brissette ahead of Jaden Daniels? That might be a tough sell for me, but I'd probably put him ahead of Flacco. I'm impressed with how he's played the last couple weeks. This is one of the easiest matchups that a quarterback can have. Dallas doesn't get a lot of pressure on the quarterback. Their secondary is banged up and not great. This is a huge opportunity for Arizona to put up points. So I'm. I'd be a little more optimistic because Brissette's been throwing well. I am hopeful that Kyler can throw well because he hasn't been great this year. But even going back to Dallas, we talked about this on CBS Sports Network. He's got a long and storied history of playing at AT&T Stadium. He's a Texas kid, high school, college pros, undefeated in that stadium. And I think he's going to be amped up to play if he does play. So Kyler Murray in that top 12 range for me, for sure.

[Wayne Campbell]

Jamie. Jake. Let's see. Someone had a. No, it's not Jason Ferguson. It's Jake Ferguson. Jason Voorhees, Ferguson. Fine. You know what? I'll play along. Jason Voorhees, Ferguson. One target. Sorry, that was super loud. One target last week. Give me a reason why I should be confident starting him, everything he's done.

[Dave]

Prior to last week. I mean, yes, guys are going to have bad games at times, especially when he shares the field with two very good players and he was playing a really good defense. So I'm going right back to Jake Ferguson. No issues.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay. But he's had two bad games in out of four with CD Lamb, so I'm not even sure I care about what he did in the games without CD Lamb. He scored 7.3, 16.8, 21.9 and 0 fantasy points with Lamb. Now, this is a great matchup. They stink against him.

[Dave]

That's what I'm saying. Like, you're not going to get away from him. And think about the two games that you said that he had that. That did well, that he did well in with that 16 plus and 21 plus. Like, that's, that's. I'm not benching that potential ever.

[Wayne Campbell]

Yeah. Arizona actually has had a pretty good pass defense. They are eighth best against quarterbacks, seventh fewest yards per attempt. Only two quarterbacks have had good games against them. They're really bad against tight ends, though. I don't know if that factors in at all with George Pickens. Like, you guys just think this game's a shootout and start everyone that's good. Basically, pretty much I'm.

[Dave]

I'm starting all the relevant cowboys, as Dave said. I think with the Cardinals, you know, the. The question would be is how much faith do you have in Kyler? And every quarterback against them has been 23 or more fantasy points. You know, Jacoby Brissette's probably not going to have bring as much confidence in fantasy managers, but the matchup is great. And so I think if you see him sitting out there on waivers and we get the word on Saturday that Murray is not going to play, I don't think that's going to happen. But if that does, then you just go and pick him up. In the case of my namesake, Donovan Bam Knight, you know, you look at what his chances are as well. 9.4 PPR points or more in all three games that he's played since Trey Benson's been injured and now you're talking about a Dallas defense that's number two in most fantasy points allowed to running backs. Like this is just the perfect setup for him. He scored two touchdowns in three of those games. So, you know, we'll see what they do with Michael Carter was signed back to their practice squad. I don't know. I can't imagine them not giving Night the chance to get 15 total touches in this game. And that should lead to a, you know, fairly successful performance.

[Jamie]

I would hope for the same. Just to put it out there. Kyler's best game this year and he. He hasn't played a defense as bad as this, although he did play Tennessee. 22.3 fantasy points in six point passing. Brissette's last two games, 23.8, 24.7. So, I mean, he's been getting the job done. He's a better thrower right now than Kyler. Murray has been. Whether or not that changes and Dallas makes Kyler look better than he is, we'll see. It doesn't. It shouldn't discourage you from starting Kyler, but I think anybody that you feel like is safer and has higher upside is an easy quarterback to go with over Kyler. Yes.

[Wayne Campbell]

A couple of Kyler puns I've seen is Tyler Murray and Killer Murray. Thoughts on Javante in this game? Kevin wants to know in the chat. He should be really good. The Cardinals have allowed this just as a floor. They've allowed 12.4 or more PPR fantasy points to a running back in every game. So it's a good matchup for. For Javante and he's obviously been a star this year. All right, I'll finish off with some chat questions here. Ferguson or Gadsden and ppr?

[Dave]

Ferguson.

[Jamie]

I agree.

[Wayne Campbell]

And then Whit says, you're not savior worthy. You're not savior worthy. Bam Night or Chase Brown?

[Dave]

Brown.

[Jamie]

Who do I have higher? I have Brown higher, but it's not by much.

[Wayne Campbell]

We have Matthew Stabford in the other game. Sam Darnold or Kyler Murray? We're going Kyler here. Kyler or Caleb Williams? Caleb Pitts or Ferguson?

[Dave]

Ferguson.

[Jamie]

Ferguson.

[Wayne Campbell]

Okay, I got one last thing to say about this game. One thing that does scare me a little bit. Bam Night's been pretty good. You know, he's not great. He's not gonna run away from anybody. He's got like, no explosiveness, but he's been solid. If he has a good game here, I wonder what it means for. For Trey Benson. Not for Cedric Benson. I wonder what it means for Trey Benson. I wonder if they go to a committee. Is that a concern for you guys? If I'm the Trey Benson manager and I don't have Knight, I am rooting very hard against him in this matchup.

[Dave]

I mean, it certainly could be the case. You know, they were going with James Connor and Trey Benson to start the season. You know, so they're not opposed to, I think, using two running backs. It's just a question of, like, what role will Knight have and what role will Benson have? You know, will they put. Well, they. If Knight has a dominant game here, you know, we get the Rico Daddle, Chuba Hubbard situation. Does Knight, you know, warrant enough, you know, playing time to. To stay in that role? I. I'm not too concerned. I think it's Trey Benson's opportunity when he comes back. To what extent? We'll find out.

[Wayne Campbell]

All right, if you have any Halloween puns, now would be the time to send them in. What, are you. You going trick or treating tonight? Are you staying home and giving out the candy?

[Dave]

No, we're going out to two of my son's friends. So a big group of kids going. We're going every. It's like three or four families, and they all have a theme of. We're a basketball, somebody's football, somebody's baseball. I don't remember if there's a soccer or hockey. Cool. But my wife and I were dressing as basketball referees, and they're going as basketball players.

[Wayne Campbell]

Nice. This is. I don't know if I told you this. I told Dave. So I ordered the Wayne costume, and then it came. And my. My wife, she has. She has Wayne's exact hair, just longer. She's the perfect Wayne. So we were going to go as spongebob characters because my son is spongebob. But then she saw the costume, and she really wanted to be Wayne. So I then had to buy the Garth costume for me, and I'm going as Garth tonight. I have Wade right now, and I am Garth tonight.

[Dave]

But I hope everybody actually, you pull off Garth more than Wayne.

[Wayne Campbell]

I like to play. I just don't have the drumsticks. But, yeah. Thank you all for watching.

[Dave]

There was a store that sold drumsticks. Amazing.

[Wayne Campbell]

I don't even know where I go. Oh, I think I know where I go. Okay. So you know what? I have time today. Maybe I'll commit to it. So thanks, everybody. Have a wonderful Halloween. And this has been fantasy football today. Party time. Excellent. Paramount podcasts, CBS Wednesdays.

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