Start or Sit (NFC), More 2025 Rankings Disputes and Your Emails (01/03 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Fantasy Football Today – Episode Summary Start or Sit (NFC), More 2025 Rankings Disputes, and Your Emails
Released on January 3, 2025

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Introduction

In the latest episode of Fantasy Football Today, host Adam Aizer teams up with analysts Dave Richard, Jamey Eisenberg, and Heath Cummings to deliver comprehensive insights into the NFC’s upcoming week, delve into the 2025 rankings disputes, and address audience questions. The episode is packed with strategic advice on starting or sitting players, waiver wire picks, trade evaluations, and resolves listener queries, making it an essential listen for fantasy football enthusiasts aiming to dominate their leagues.

Start or Sit (NFC)

The episode kicks off with a robust discussion on the critical "Start or Sit" decisions for the NFC. The analysts review player performances, injury updates, and matchup implications to guide fantasy managers on optimizing their lineups.

• Adam Aizer opens the segment by highlighting the importance of strategic decisions, stating, "It's gonna go the distance" ([00:59]).
• Dave Richard emphasizes the unpredictability of Week 18, remarking, "Anybody that's playing for a championship in week 18, your commissioner's a joker" ([02:34]).
• Jamey Eisenberg provides insights on specific injuries affecting player availability, such as Kenny Pickett's rib injury for the Eagles and the impact on quarterback selections, suggesting Tanner Mackey as the starter ([03:09]).

Rankings and Team Updates

The conversation transitions into the 2025 rankings, where the analysts debate the rankings of key players and the implications for the upcoming season.

• Adam Aizer shares an intriguing statistic about Saquon Barkley, predicting, "Saquon Barkley is going to finish as the number one running back in PPR” ([08:28]).
• Jamey Eisenberg counters by discussing the evolving dynamics of the Colts’ defense and their influence on player performances, highlighting the complexity of maintaining high rankings ([04:20]).

Player News and Updates

The team provides updates on player statuses, focusing on injuries and expected performance, which are crucial for making informed fantasy decisions.

• Dave Richard discusses the impact of Josh Dobbs' performance on the 49ers' offense, stating, "If he throws his tight ends all the time, it's a boom-bust feature" ([29:49]).
• Jamey Eisenberg analyzes the Patriots' quarterback situation, noting the inconsistency and its potential fallout on fantasy rankings ([03:31]).

Game Analysis

Minnesota at Detroit

The analysts delve into the game of the week, Minnesota vs. Detroit, evaluating both teams' strengths and weaknesses.

• Adam Aizer picks the Lions' defense over Minnesota, citing their improvement despite statistical concerns: "I'm going to go with the Lions. Their defense is too good" ([18:15]).
• Jamey Eisenberg supports this choice by highlighting the Lions’ poor December defensive record, stating, "They allowed 7.4 yards per play in December" ([17:35]).

Chicago at Green Bay

The discussion shifts to the Chicago Bears facing the Green Bay Packers, with a focus on quarterback choices and offensive strategies.

• Jamey Eisenberg prefers Caleb Williams over Jordan Love, emphasizing Caleb's potential breakout: "He’s had a great season. He's expanding his route tree" ([19:37]).
• Dave Richard echoes the need for a competent playcaller for Caleb, suggesting that "a brand new playbook with a really good play caller” would benefit him ([20:46]).

Carolina at Atlanta

The Analysts evaluate the Carolina Panthers versus the Atlanta Falcons matchup, debating the value of utilizing Drake London and the implications of Drake London’s performance on his draft position.

• Dave Richard questions whether Drake London should be considered a third-round pick, concluding, "No, not anymore" ([35:40]).
• Jamey Eisenberg argues for Drake London's high ranking in receiver tiers, noting his significant target share: "He's going to be in the top 15 receivers" ([35:53]).

Washington at Dallas

The Washington Commanders face off against the Dallas Cowboys, with discussions centered on running back selections and tight end performances.

• Jamey Eisenberg favors starting Ray Davis over Brian Robinson Jr., citing Washington’s run defense: "He’s touched down or bust" ([44:38]).
• Dave Richard expresses concerns about Robinson’s workload, reinforcing the decision to prioritize Davis ([45:04]).

Seattle at Rams

The Seattle Seahawks take on the Los Angeles Rams, with focus on wide receiver selections amidst Geno Smith's quarterback performance incentives.

• Dave Richard and Jamey Eisenberg debate the feasibility of JSN (Jason Sanders) being a reliable fantasy option, given his high slot rate: "77% slot rate. That's crazy" ([52:22], [52:54]).
• Adam Aizer highlights Geno Smith’s incentives as a factor, noting, "He’s got $6 million in incentives" ([56:18]).

Giants at Eagles

The final game analysis covers the Giants versus Eagles, where running back selections are hotly debated.

• Jamey Eisenberg recommends starting Malik Neighbors, especially with Brock Bowers on the bench: "He’s in the race with Brock Bowers for most receptions by a rookie" ([59:36]).
• Dave Richard agrees on prioritizing Tracy, reinforcing Neighbors’ potential record-breaking performance ([60:22]).

Listener Emails

The episode features an interactive segment where the hosts respond to listener emails, offering personalized advice and lineup suggestions.

• Adam Aizer reads an email from Sven in Iceland, discussing quarterbacks and flex positions, to which the team provides strategic starts and sits ([61:54]-[66:52]).
• Jamey Eisenberg and Dave Richard offer specific player recommendations based on the context provided by the listeners, such as prioritizing certain running backs and wide receivers over others.

Key Quotes

• Adam Aizer: "It's gonna go the distance." ([00:59])
• Dave Richard: "Anybody that's playing for a championship in week 18, your commissioner's a joker." ([02:34])
• Jamey Eisenberg: "Saquon Barkley is going to finish as the number one running back in PPR." ([08:28])
• Jamey Eisenberg: "He’s had a great season. He's expanding his route tree." ([19:37])
• Dave Richard: "He’s touched down or bust." ([44:38])

Conclusion

Wrapping up, the hosts reiterate the importance of strategic decisions in the final stretch of the season, encouraging listeners to stay engaged with ranking updates and player news. They tease upcoming off-season content, including playoff DFS strategies and mock drafts for 2025, ensuring that fantasy managers remain equipped to tackle the evolving dynamics of the game.

• Adam Aizer: "Have a wonderful weekend. Good luck in your championships." ([70:26])
• Jamey Eisenberg: "It's a boom-bust feature that sometimes that's going to help and sometimes it's going to hurt." ([22:00])

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Tune in next week for more expert analysis, player rankings, and fantasy football strategies to keep you ahead in your league!

Transcript

[Adam Azer]

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[Jamie Eisenberg]

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[Dave Richard]

What a play.

[Adam Azer]

Can you believe again it's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays at his feet. This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath Friday morning. Happy Friday everybody. Welcome to Fantasy football today presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook. Born in Vegas, Adam Azer with Jamie Eisenberg and Dave Richard. I don't even know what to start the show with. No game to recap. It's just weird. How was your Thursday night, guys?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It was lovely. How was yours?

[Adam Azer]

It's fine. I started watching a movie called Bad Moms. You guys ever heard of Bad Moms.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

With what's her name?

[Adam Azer]

Yes, yes. Mila Kunis.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I've heard of the Bad Moms of comedy. There's like a whole stand up troupe. I know that Orly KG is one of those stand ups as part of the Bad Moms. Kind of look them up. They're funny.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, it's a decent movie. And then I fell asleep. That was my Thursday night. Dave, how about you?

[Dave Richard]

I fell asleep on New Year's Eve watching The Joker Part 2.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I just was gonna say I just saw that. That's crazy and.

[Dave Richard]

All right, so you saw it. Was it like way too musically?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It was awful.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

I passed.

[Dave Richard]

I mean I fell asleep.

[Adam Azer]

I didn't like the first one. You guys like the first one?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I thought the first one was. Was interesting. I mean it was definitely very dark.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

The second one was so bad.

[Adam Azer]

Oh, wow.

[Dave Richard]

So which player who we're going to talk about today is going to be the Joker? That. Well, first of all, anybody that's playing for a championship in week 18, your. Your commissioner's A joker, but hopefully he doesn't stab you on a subway and the. Or shoot you on a subway. But I wonder who in week 18 is going to be the big joker of all.

[Adam Azer]

All right, well, let's get into the news and notes here. Anthony Richardson still out. So while out of practice. So looking unlikely for Richardson against Jacksonville. Josh Dobbs is starting for the Niners. Kenny Pickett is injured ribs. So who are you expecting to be at quarterback for the Eagles this week?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Tanner Mackey.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. Bailey. Zappy. Because I'm zappy. He's gonna start for Cleveland. Both quarterbacks are expected to play. We're expecting Tyler Huntley to start for the Dolphins. Drake May is going to start. Offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt said the Patriots are playing to win the game, but they're not exactly committing to playing everybody the entire time. But Drake.

[Dave Richard]

I think he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. I think if they win the game, he's going to get fired because you won the game. Why? We want the number one pick. And if you, if he loses the game, you just lost to a bunch of backups in Buffalo, you're fired.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So this is, it's funny because I was unfortunately on. On HQ on Sunday morning last week saying, oh, the Colts defense is going to be great. And was talking to on the show, we have former NFL cornerback Logan Ryan. And he said, you're making it just sound like the Giants are going to roll over and not do anything. I'm like, well, I mean, that's what they've been doing all season. And he's like, you know, whatever the front office wants does not come down to the locker room. He goes, I could tell you that firsthand. And players want to play and win and do all those things.

[Dave Richard]

Yes.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

And so like, you can sit here and say, Malik Neighbor should have wanted to lose that game because he would have gotten a better quarterback. Right?

[Adam Azer]

No, I would never say anything like that.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No, dude, if you're, if you're taking it from a big picture scenario, right, for him, it would be better to lose the game.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So for Drake May, it's better for him to lose the game in theory, right?

[Dave Richard]

Well, but he's going to be on his second play caller in as many years.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Players are gonna unfortunately want to play. And so, you know, they're going to want to try.

[Adam Azer]

Unfortunately. Yeah.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It is unfortunate.

[Dave Richard]

How dare they?

[Adam Azer]

I mean, it's unfortunate. But the good thing for the page, like, the Patriots at least don't need a quarterback. So they. They don't have as much to lose by falling in the draft.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No, but you want to control your destiny. If you get.

[Adam Azer]

Absolutely. And the picks they could get if they trade the number one pick, you know, it's. It's an enviable spot to be in anyway. Let's go to the running back news.

[Dave Richard]

I don't think they get that much. It's not the same type of draft as it was last year.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It doesn't matter. Somebody will still fall in love with one of those guys and want to trade up.

[Dave Richard]

I don't think they'd get a haul. We'll find out.

[Adam Azer]

Maybe Aaron Jones was limited. Justin Hill's out. Justice Hill. His name is Justice Hill. Chase Brown's going to be a game time. So that's an interesting one. How much would you trust him if Chase Brown plays at Pittsburgh?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, if he's. If he's good enough to go, then I think you got to trust him. So he would be not in the top five. Ish for me if he's playing, but he'd be. I mean, right now Tony Pollard is my number seven running back.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. And Tony Pollard.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, it's not bad.

[Adam Azer]

It. Okay. Okay. I didn't know where you were going with that. Will Shipley for the Eagles. He practiced in full. He's been injured, I think in the concussion protocol, but he practiced in full. We'll talk about that Thrilling game a little bit later. Could get Miles Sanders this week. Austin Eckler's been practicing in full. Not expecting Alvin Camara. Taj Spears missed practice. Tony Pollard was limited. Amir Abdullah missed practice again. So we're going to keep an eye on that if he's out with Alexander Madison. Crap. Crap?

[Dave Richard]

Did you say crap? Yes, he will crap our lineups.

[Adam Azer]

Crack your top 24.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yes.

[Dave Richard]

By default. Yes.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

He'd be like top 20.

[Adam Azer]

Bucky Irving was limited. He should be fine. And Jerome Ford is out wide receiver. I don't know who we're really worried about. Are you worried about Josh Palmer missing the game?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No.

[Dave Richard]

And even if I was worried about him missing the game, I'd like to think that I'd have a better option or find a better option than Josh Palmer.

[Adam Azer]

Debo Samuel, worried about him? Yes.

[Dave Richard]

That's. That's a far more significant one to be worried about.

[Adam Azer]

Darnell Mooney, limited with a shoulder injury. Terry McLaurin missed practice, but he should be fine. Christian Watson missed practice. He may not play. Marquez Valdez scantling practice in full. He actually returned last week. You may not have known it because he didn't have a catch.

[Dave Richard]

Didn't he get hurt and then he left again with an injury?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yep.

[Adam Azer]

Played like 76% of the snaps, but okay. But, yeah, he. He. It. Practiced in full. Jalen Waddle was limited. Chris Olave should have mentioned him with mvs. He practiced in full. Don't know if he's gonna play. We'll talk about that game later. And. And tight end. It's possible Dallas Goddard gets out there for a little bit. I don't know. He's eligible to return this week. He's been practicing. I don't think anyone's gonna trust it, but maybe they want to give him a little bit of run before the playoffs. Kate Otten was limited, so another guy we'll talk about in a little bit, but maybe he plays this week against the Saints. David Najoku is out, Hunter Henry was limited, and Tyler Conklin missed practice. All right, please, if you wouldn't mind, please vote for us. It takes about 30 seconds. Go to sports podcast group.com and click vote now and find the best fantasy betting and gaming podcast category and vote for fantasy football today. That's all you got to do. Sportspodcastgroup.com let's go for a repeat this year. I have a crazy Saquon Barkley stat for you. So we had to do our top twelves at each position. We had to send those into Jamie yesterday. Did you guys have Barkley one?

[Dave Richard]

No.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No.

[Adam Azer]

Bijan one?

[Dave Richard]

Yes.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Running back. Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. So me, too. And Barkley is. Unless Jameer Gibbs scores something like 32, 33 points in PPR this week, Saquon Barkley is going to finish as the number one running back in PPR. He's going to do that with 33 catches. That will be the fewest amount of catches for the number one running back in PPR since 2005. 19 years. Sean Alexander, 370 carries.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Taylor didn't do it.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I was about to say I thought Taylor would be that guy.

[Adam Azer]

No, he was at, like, 40 catches. Sean Alexander had 15 catches, but he had 1880 rushing yards and 27 touchdowns. So Barkley's gonna. Gonna do something pretty rare.

[Dave Richard]

27.

[Adam Azer]

That's a good reference right there. Okay. All right, let's get into the games. Here we go. Minnesota at Detroit. Oh, I totally forgot. This is obviously the game of the week, so I'll pick something else as the other game of the week.

[Dave Richard]

No, just get it over with for this one.

[Adam Azer]

I'm not even gonna sing it. Oh.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Wow. You are ready for the season to end.

[Adam Azer]

It's the game of the week. Yeah.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Oh, that's so depressing.

[Adam Azer]

Vikings and the Lions. Actually, I'm pumped for this game. Sunday Night Football. Yeah. Yeah. Game of the week. Hey, all right. Yeah, no, I am pumped for this game. Really exciting 2025 question. For each game and starts and sits. Here's your 2025 question. Jordan Addison or Jameson Williams?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Jordan Addison.

[Dave Richard]

I will. Assuming that I'm okay with whatever direction the Vikings go with at quarterback, it's Addison. I just kind of pencil him in for a thousand yards and seven touchdowns every year.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

He'll be entering his third season. I think the. Their. Their offensive system is going to be the same. Jameson Williams may be different. So, yeah, it's going to be very interesting to see what they do in at offensive coordinator, because the thought would be if. If Ben Johnson goes to Jacksonville, his offense coordinator will be Mark Brunello as the quarterback's coach. If Ben Johnson goes to Chicago, then maybe Brunel stays and becomes the Lions offense coordinator.

[Dave Richard]

I think the Lions already have an OC in waiting.

[Adam Azer]

I think.

[Dave Richard]

I think it's a guy named Tanner Angstrand.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Could be.

[Dave Richard]

I think we. I think we were talking about this on Sunday. You might have been around for that, James, but I. I think that they let him call plays in the. In the. In the preseason, and he's kind of the guy behind the guy.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So maybe Brunel is going with Ben Johnson no matter where, no matter what.

[Dave Richard]

Right. Which I think is kind of smart for Ben Johnson just to have some, like, former players and older guys along with him. And Brunel would be a good one. Remember, once upon a time, I loved the brain trust in Detroit, and Brunel, I believe, was a part of that. So now that brain trust will move on to wherever Ben Johnson goes.

[Adam Azer]

Well, this game is a gift for us in week 18 because there are just a lot of starts. In fact, I don't even know if there are a lot of tough calls in this game. Which quarterback do you like better? I know they're both ranked very high, but which quarterback do you like better?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Darnold. Slightly.

[Dave Richard]

I. I've got Darnold one spot ahead of golf.

[Adam Azer]

And the 2025 question I asked, I'll ask it for week 18. Who do you like better, Jordan Addison or Jameson Williams?

[Dave Richard]

Addison.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Addison.

[Adam Azer]

You know, it's funny. I was a little concerned about Jameson Williams last week because the 49ers don't give up big plays to wide receivers and they actually, honestly, he had a huge game. They did a pretty good job against him. He had a rushing touchdown and he scored on a 41 yard lateral, which counted toward his receiving stats. Other than that, I don't think he had a reception longer than 12 yards. I just want to throw that out there.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Listen, he's. He's had a, he's had a great season. He's expanded his route tree. He's definitely, you know, looked like a third year breakout. And I think the fun part about it is like, this is kind of what we've been waiting for, right? Because incomplete seasons, his first two missed another two games this year as well. So he's, let me see, he's a.

[Dave Richard]

Few yards away from 33 yards away from a thousand.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

What'd you say?

[Dave Richard]

33 yards away from a thousand?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think he's 49. He's at 941 right now.

[Dave Richard]

I've got 967.

[Adam Azer]

Oh, I bet you that you don't have. Actually never.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It might be before Sunday night what I'm looking at.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, what number did you say?

[Dave Richard]

926?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

941.

[Dave Richard]

941. No, I don't know what the hell you're looking at. I've got like a whole list of milestones that players in every game are looking at, and that's one of them. There's a ton in this game. There's a lot of cool things that can, that players can achieve as far as like year to date numbers. And that's one of them.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Are top 20 for this week.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, I think Aaron Jones maybe is interesting, right, because the Lions run defense hasn't fallen apart and Jones himself is you. You know, he's solid. He's okay. Number two running back. But I don't know. Are you, Are you? Obviously we're expecting a big game from Gibbs. Are we expecting a top three tennis game from, from Jones? Like, how is he. How does he compare to Blake Corum and Michael Carter and Khalil Herbert?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Oh, he's well ahead of those guys. I mean, for sure ahead of those guys. There's like Carter and Herbert are close. Just because again, as, as I've been saying all week, the, the guys that are playing with starters are a little bit more safer to me than the guys that are playing with backups. You know, so Corum, Gainwell, Blake, Ray, Davis, you know, those guys are, are very risky. Carson, Steele, they're all risky. You know, I think with Aaron Jones, the thing that's been missing is touchdowns. You know, so like last week, Cam Maker scores. He doesn't, you know, if, if he finds the end zone, you're going to be thrilled about it. I think you're still starting him because he's got, you know, for me like a floor of 11 or 12 PPR points without scoring and I think he'll be involved in the passing game. So. But you said it, you know the lines. Defense hasn't fallen apart yet from a run defense perspective. I just don't know if, if they're going to hold up against this offense.

[Dave Richard]

He's 29 rushing yards away from setting a new single season career high. 88 total yards away from a new career high. So a lot for Jones to get in this game. Plus it's obviously an important game and running the ball should be something that the, I think the Vikings did a pretty decent job of it the last time these teams played. Lions defense clearly has gotten worse since that early season matchup and there's, there's just a huge opportunity for everybody to go off. But Aaron Jones certainly is a top 10 running back.

[Adam Azer]

How do you feel about TJ Hawkinson? Sam Laporte is a must start guy. The touchdown list. TJ Hawkinson, how do you feel about.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Him this week, his first time facing his former team? You know he didn't, he didn't play in the first game. So he's the top 12 tight end. Two of his last three he's been over 10 PPR points. Again, like you said, no touchdowns. So he's, he's right in that same range for me with Johnny Smith, with Huntley, Johnny Smith because of Huntley, Chigo, Conquo Tucker, Kraft, like they're all kind of in that, you know, once you get past like tight end six, it's kind of a guessing game. So. Or 10 to five at this, at this point it's kind of a guessing game. So don't love the, the setup but again if looking at the, the bigger picture, if he gets me 10 PPR points, I'll be thrilled with it.

[Dave Richard]

And that's what I think he's like, good for. It's. I've got him ranked as a top 12 tight end. I don't know how you feel about the position this week, but there's just not a lot that I can trust. Here's a tight end that should play a lot, but he's no better than third in overall targets, red zone targets, end zone targets, explosive plays among his teammates over the past six weeks. So he's almost like A third, fourth option for this offense. At this point, I think you start him and you hope that he gets you 10 PPR points. Like, if you're willing. If you think that Mike Kosicki can just keep going on what he did last week, that's an easy start ahead of TJ Hawkinson this week, but that's the range that he's in for.

[Adam Azer]

I wouldn't do that.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No, I wouldn't do that either. I. I think the thing that you're.

[Dave Richard]

I agree, but I'm just saying the.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Thing that you're looking at. What we saw last week was the packers early in the game tried to take away Jefferson and Addison, and you saw a little bit more of Hawkinson. You saw a lot of Jalen Naylor. And the. The Lions will probably have a similar approach, you know, trying to take away, you know, something that the Vikings have to offer. It's. It's much more challenging because their defense is so beat up. So will Sam Darnold continue to lean on other spots? Now, you saw from the Lions last week, and we've been praising their defensive tight ends all season. Well, George Kittle still had a big game and Ricky Pearsall had a big game, you know, so again, you saw a little bit of a diverse attack from the 49ers, not necessarily just relying on Debo, who They've been featuring 16 targets prior to last week's game. And then Jennings really came on in the end with Dobbs. You know, not. Not that this is a 49ers conversation, but you saw like just everybody sort of involved to a certain extent besides Debo. So I think someone will be left out here for the Vikings. You hope it's Nailer as opposed to the other three, because the other three are going to be, you know, certainly rostered in more leagues and potentially started in more leagues. So I think it's just. It's an interesting game. And for anybody playing DFS Sunday night, you know, they're all in play for the Vikings.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. And one of. Someone from our research team at CBS Sports just did a great job highlighting how bad the Lions defense has been. They allowed 7.4 yards per play in December, the most yards per play any team has allowed in December in the Super bowl era. 1738 teams, they are last. They have been 1738th. That's how bad the Lions defense has been in the month of December. It is unbelievable. All right, think about that. When you fill out your, like, your super. Your playoff brackets or whatever, you're going to do okay. Who do you like in this game?

[Dave Richard]

Minnesota.

[Adam Azer]

I'm going to go with the Lions. Their defense is too good. All right, we're going to take a quick break here, jk, and come back and talk about Chicago at Green Bay. 2025 question and starts and sits for week 18. We'll be right back. Welcome to Nadia Island. Next on Nadia Yada Island.

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[Adam Azer]

Welcome back, everybody. Okay, 2025 question for Chicago at Green Bay. Jordan Love or Caleb Williams?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Caleb.

[Dave Richard]

Caleb Williams.

[Adam Azer]

Interesting. Did you guys put him in your top 12?

[Dave Richard]

Yes.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I haven't done mine yet, but he will be close.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. One of the things that I'd point out about Caleb Williams is that he has basically the same amount of total yards as Bo Nix. The touchdowns are so different, though. So if anyone's considering Bonick's a top 12 option, you shouldn't shut the door on Caleb Williams as a top 12 option as well. All right, let's go to the right coach.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, he could be amazing.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, I know. I, I posted something on, on Twitter during week 17. I think during that Thursday, horrible Thursday game, he made a throw that he makes a lot of throws that maybe a couple of quarterbacks can make. He's just got amazing arm talent. And I was like, I'm going to be drafting a lot of Caleb Williams. And man, people were not happy. They were like, he's, you know, they make a good point. Like you can't just look at the good. There's a lot of bad, too. But I don't know that people are going to be in on Caleb Williams if he gets a coaching change like the right Coach, then yeah, maybe that changes. But we might be, we might be higher than consensus on Caleb. It's my take. All right.

[Dave Richard]

I would love to see a competent play caller and play designer work with him because there, there were just too many plays that I saw where it's like third and six and his receivers are running like 15 yard routes, all of them. And he's got no one to go to. And that's part of the reason why he holds the ball for so long and then he's sacked and he's hit. And the offensive line could certainly stand to get better. I think the Bears will definitely accomplish that during the off season. But a good, a brand new playbook with a really good play caller. Ben Johnson would be excellent for him. And I think Caleb is what he is. I think he's, I don't think he's going to be able to change his ways as a thrower. So he's going to be a guy that kind of holds the ball a little bit too long, tries play Superman a little bit. And that's just something that. It's a boom bust feature. Sometimes that's going to hurt him and sometimes he's going to make that. Those wow throws. The throw that you might be referencing, the touchdown that got called back, is that the one that you were thinking of?

[Adam Azer]

I honestly don't even remember.

[Dave Richard]

Okay. No, he was running out of the pocket and there he's got. I don't remember which receiver it was.

[Adam Azer]

Running in the back of the end zone, right? Yeah, yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Running in the back of the. That's another guy who's going to be better next year. But he's. Or he's running in the back of the end zone and it almost looked like something that Adam, you and I saw from Cam Ward.

[Adam Azer]

Yep. Exactly.

[Dave Richard]

Where he just. He has this great downfield vision to see these guys running and he hits them perfectly and the play is called back. So that's just one of. Certainly not a ton of plays. Call it a handful of plays that he's made this year that your jaw drops and you just go, wow, this guy can really do stuff. And then he's also had a bunch of bonehead plays that makes you go, how could I ever trust him? In fantasy he'll be worth the risk as one of those back half of draft QB picks.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, who do you like better this week, Jordan Love or Caleb Williams?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Williams. Because I don't think Jordan Love will play a full game. Did you see what Josh Jacobs said?

[Adam Azer]

Okay. No, I did not. I Was waiting for something on this game here. So yeah, how are we feeling about Green Bay?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So Jacob said he does not expect to have a very big workload and I think it makes sense, you know, so if they are going to approach this game probably with the intent of hoping to get the six seed, then they probably play all out. You know, they have to win and Washington has to lose to get to succeed. I'm sure they'll be doing some scoreboard watching. So from what Jacob said, I just kind of feel like the packers aren't going to be playing four quarters of what they expect. I get you exact quote if you.

[Dave Richard]

Want and it's exactly, I think I said this earlier in the week. It's exactly what lafleur did with his starters the last time they were in this position. He played his guys for a half. Aaron Rodgers had some, or Devonte Adams rather had some goals that he wanted to hit some numbers. He got that and they were done at halftime. Jordan Love came in for the second half. That's how long ago it was. So I, I would, I agree. I don't think we should count on any packers unless you think they can do well in two quarters, maybe two and a half quarters. Don't start them.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So I have, you know, just in terms of the running backs with Jacobs, I have Herbert and Carter ranked ahead of him. I have him ahead of the backups. So he's like right around 20 for me. Jacob, here's a coach just being honest, being realistic. I don't see me taking that many carries in this game. Obviously I want to play, I'm going to push to play and I'm playing, but I don't see myself taking 30 carries. Now we, we've seen the New Orleans game, for example. Remember he didn't play very much in the second half at all.

[Dave Richard]

Right. But he had a ton of touchdowns.

[Adam Azer]

If he plays a half against the Bears who have a terrible run defense, I think Jacobs will probably score double digit fantasy points in PPE.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right.

[Adam Azer]

So not more than 15.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

The, the two guys who, who kind of scare me the most from the high end running back spots because they both have great matchups but probably aren't going to play very much are Jacobs and Nick. So I wouldn't expect to see Jacobs very much and I wouldn't expect to see mixing. So it could be a quarter, could be a half. You know, the, the packers, they trust their backups a little bit more than the Texans do at this point based on what we've seen. So they'll use Wilson, they'll use Christopher Brooks, they'll give those guys touches. That's probably the approach. And if you're playing dfs, you want to take a chance on one of those guys, Eileen Wilson. But don't be surprised. We don't see Josh Jacobs very much. But to your point, Adam, in a quarter he could still have, you know, 60 total yards and a touchdown. It wouldn't surprise me.

[Adam Azer]

All right, let's go to the Bears then. So if this is what we expect from the packers are the Bears must start, must start guys now.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No.

[Adam Azer]

No. If they're going to be playing theoretically a half against backups, I just figured.

[Dave Richard]

I mean, I'd be okay with Keenan Allen.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, the two receivers are still worth using, but right more a little bit.

[Dave Richard]

Caleb doesn't crack my top 12.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Neither quarterback does.

[Adam Azer]

Okay.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

But the, the receivers have still been putting up numbers with Caleb struggling. You know, last week was really the first time we didn't see that.

[Adam Azer]

So would you start DeAndre Swift or Josh Jacobs?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Jacobs still Jacobs.

[Adam Azer]

Wow. Would you start Josh Jacobs or DJ Moore? Keane and Allen more now?

[Dave Richard]

Definitely Allen. I think I'd start Jacobs over more if it's 9 or half PPR.

[Adam Azer]

I wonder if you're stuck if O'Dunes A is a decent option, usually gets 7 or more targets. Last week you only had 4. And how about, how about the tight ends in this game?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Craft is in that low end number one group and nothing. I commit.

[Dave Richard]

I forgot who Cole Comet was.

[Adam Azer]

Okay.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

He actually had a decent game against him the first time around, but he's just so uninvolved.

[Adam Azer]

So are you going to move the Packers DST down on your rankings? I think Jamie Evans six, Dave 10th.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, I might.

[Dave Richard]

But there's a lot of, there's a lot of uncertainty with DSTs this week.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

But, but honestly, so far the only person who has said anything publicly is Jacobs. And it does make sense for him to come out of the game relatively early because they have other guys there and they're probably playing with the lead. So there. If there wasn't an example of this two weeks ago, Jordan Love played the entire game or most, most of the game against the Saints. You know, so it could be the same approach. They could play three quarters and then they're up three touchdowns and he's sitting well.

[Adam Azer]

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[Dave Richard]

Oh, he's, he's going to be on my list of receivers to target in the second half of drafts.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Is Debo there and is IUK ready to go from the start of the season?

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, big questions. Obviously I'm, you know, I'm going to guess IUK is there is ready fairly early, if not at the beginning.

[Dave Richard]

See what Debo's contract situation is.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

But yes, Pierce. So like I'll probably do sleepers, breakouts and busts right after super bowl first version of it just for fun and Peer Salt will probably be on the breakouts list.

[Adam Azer]

It would be interesting to see this team without Debo and with IUK maybe starting the year on IR and what that means for Purdy and what that means for everyone basically.

[Dave Richard]

All right. I think, I think Debo is going to be on the team if he's cut before June 1st or without the June 1st designation. He carries a 31 million dollar dead money cap.

[Adam Azer]

It.

[Dave Richard]

Okay, that's a problem.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Terrible contract.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah. So I believe, and I believe he's got a void year after this year. So he'll be A Niner in 2025.

[Adam Azer]

I don't think it was a terrible contract at the time.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You.

[Adam Azer]

I don't remember people saying that.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean his, his, his game is suited for that offense, but this offense is evolving.

[Dave Richard]

Oh yeah, he's evolving.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. How do you feel about, how do you feel about the 49ers offense with Josh Dobbs under center?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So he played two years at Tennessee with Juwan Jennings. That connection was pretty obvious once he came on the field and he, I think he's also within a shot. I may be off on numbers, but he's close to a thousand yards for the first time ever. So I think he's the best receiver in this game for the 49ers and there's a chance for him. I mean, I'm sorry, he's my, he's my favorite receiver in this game so I'd start him over Marvin Harrison and he's a low end number two so in the same range as like the Bears guys. Keenan Allen and DJ Moore. Kittle's obviously still a mustard guy. He kills the Cardinals almost every time he plays them. And, and Debo, after what happened last week, the fact that he's hurt, like, if you can get away from him, get away from again, like, it was, it was, it was back to being a disaster. Like, I'm nervous about Debo and Pierce, all just because Dobbs has not shown the ability to consistently feature multiple threats. So, you know, Kittle will get his numbers because they'll get him some easy throws and I think Jennings will be the guy he leans on.

[Dave Richard]

Jennings is 77 yards away from a thousand. Debo had just the one touchdown catch last week. I, I don't, I don't know if Debo's gonna play. And so if he doesn't play, that definitely kicks down the door for Jennings to be a top 24 receiver, Pierce hall to be a boom bus flex. We'll see how involved Kittle is. But some of those pass attempts that Brock Purdy would normally make, Dobbs will take off and run.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, that is a concern. He doesn't consistently throw for a lot of yards. He'll have, he's had a few, you know, 250 yard games, but also a few games not even close to that. One thing about Dobbs, I'm just going to look, I think he probably led the NFL last year. I'll confirm. In 5, 4, 3. No, he didn't. He was third in the NFL in tight end target rate. He throws his tight ends all the time. And one, he does not throw or, you know, look, I, I don't want to just make a blanket statement because Drew Locke was a guy who didn't throw to his running backs and now all of a sudden he does. But Josh Dobbs did not throw to his running backs very much at all. So that's something to keep in mind because Corindo's had four catches, two straight games.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, but that's also this offense. He's been in the system for a year. I think he'll do. He may not, he may not have four catches, but I think three is certainly realistic.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, so do you like this game from an offensive standpoint? I mean, a lot of starts in this game in general, and the Cardinals.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Are just still the, you know, tough to trust. It's, you know, what kind of game we get from Harrison. I hope what we saw last week is, is the norm moving forward and the floor moving forward. So he's a borderline starter and two receiver leagues. He's definitely a starter in three receiver leagues. You're obviously starting McBride. Carter's such a wild card. I mean, he's been nine plus PPR points each of the last two weeks with, you know, Connor being in and out of the lineup. And so now he gets this opportunity against 49ers run defense that does not look the same because they're just beat up. So he's in that, you know, mid number two running back range kind of by default. And I think for the 49ers, like for me, I'm still treating them as, as somewhat startable options. Garendo, I think has a chance for a big game here still, but again, it's by default. So he's, he's a borderline number one running back just because I know he's going to get touches. We haven't seen anybody else touch the ball when he's been healthy. Like I said, I like Jennings because I think that's the guy that Dobbs will lean on based on history and your kiddos, a mustard guy. The other two receivers for the 49ers, I wouldn't want to start if I don't have to.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, so let's talk about Michael Carter since he's. I wonder if he's the most added player. He's up to 12 rostered. Not a lot like, not a lot of spikes in roster percentage this week. But Dave, who would you start Michael Carter over?

[Dave Richard]

I would start Michael Carter over DeAndre Swift, Rashad White, any Jaguars running back, any Rams running back, any Broncos running back, any Bills running back. I know that sounds kind of crazy. I'm not big on Naji this week against Cincinnati. I think Jalen Warren is finally, finally starting to take over. And I'm not sure what to make of Brian Robinson and the fact that he's sharing with two other guys. So I, I'd start Carter over him in ppr.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I agree with all that. I would start him over mixing and Jacobs too.

[Adam Azer]

Would you start Michael Carter, who is by the way the most added player up to 11 rostered from 5%.

[Dave Richard]

Damn.

[Adam Azer]

Would you start Carter? Or how about like Keenan Allen, DJ Moore?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think those guys are. The receivers are safer. But again, you know, you're looking at what the. The Arizona offense has been. It's for the most part when they've had to lean on one player, they've leaned on one player and Connor's in a different tier than Michael Carter. But there's really nobody else for the Cardinals right now. And so he's Been involved in the past game. He had a five catch game two weeks ago. You know, Kyler's thrown to his running backs, which has been great. I don't know. I mean, it feels like this is a 20 touch game for Carter. So he's still playing with his starting group. It's different than the Bill situation, It's different than the Rams situation, it's different than the Eagles situation. You know, so when you're talking about one of these backups stepping in, he's got an opportunity, shown you that he's done stuff in the passing game, showing you that he has the ability to get, you know, you know, cut touches in the, you know, the majority of the field. And so is DJ Dallas taking him off the field for significant stretches? Well, that hasn't happened yet, so I don't think that's going to be the case.

[Dave Richard]

He might for some third downs. We saw that two games ago. We might have seen that last week too. I don't have.

[Adam Azer]

They did. Yeah, they split third down work, but yeah. Carter gets so many more snaps overall and still gets catches. Okay. Would you.

[Dave Richard]

He's a top 20 running back.

[Adam Azer]

Would you start him over Garrett Wilson and. Or Devonte Adams?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No, not there yet. No.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. All right. Marvin Harrison or Garrett Wilson?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Wilson.

[Dave Richard]

I have Wilson. A few spots out of Marvin Harrison.

[Adam Azer]

Marvin Harrison or let's say Flacco.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Starting the Colts wide receivers, Pittman, Harrison, the other culture receivers.

[Dave Richard]

I have Harrison over both the Colts receivers.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. And start Trey McBride.

[Dave Richard]

And I think if he scores, if Marvin Harrison scores, he ties. Tell me if you've heard of these guys. Anquan Bolden and Larry Fitzgerald for the franchise rookie record and touchdowns. And if he scores twice, he breaks the record that they gave. And he's also 62 yards away from the second most yards by a rookie in franchise history.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

That one. One thing we know about the Cardinals, when they want to get a guy A touchdown, 16 games later, it will happen.

[Adam Azer]

All right, Carolina is at Atlanta 2025. Question. Is Drake London a third round pick? He is currently wide receiver, 21 per game in PPR, but he's averaging 15 PPR points per game, which is usually a third round pick. It's been a good year for wide receivers, believe it or not. Is drake London a third round pick next season?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

100.

[Dave Richard]

Now I'm gonna say no. I think he's going to be just outside of that group.

[Adam Azer]

What about you? Would you take him in the third round? Dave?

[Dave Richard]

No, not anymore.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. And Jamie, you would?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah. I mean he's going to be in the top 15 receivers and that's typically when we see that group go, especially after what we saw last year. So I'd be very surprised if he's not a third round pick.

[Adam Azer]

All right, in this game, do you like, who do you like in this game? Dave, just lay it out for me. Carolina at Atlanta.

[Dave Richard]

I think any Falcons players, I, I would suspect that we'll see a full game from all their starters, they're still playing for something and it's Carolina that they're playing against. So Bijan should roll. London's a good start, Mooney's a good start. Their DST is a good start. That's probably where I'll draw the line. I'm not ready to trust Kyle Pitts maybe ever again. And Pennix, there's just, even, even on a week like this, there's still too many other quarterbacks I'd rather start for Carolina, it's really just Adam Thielen, maybe Miles Sanders if you're really desperate at running back. If he comes back in place. He's got that beautiful combination of fresh legs and not a tough, not an impossible matchup. Falcons don't allow a lot of touchdowns, but maybe he gets you, maybe he gets you like 60 or 70 total yards, maybe get you a couple catches on top of it. They, they can't go back to Black Shear and Mike Boone to be or their run game anymore if they can help it.

[Adam Azer]

All right, so let me follow up here because since Pennock's taken over, I mean Drake London's got like a 32 target share or something like that or target per route. Run rate has been above 35 each of the two games. Mooney hasn't been great. He, he did have five for 82 on six targets against the Giants, but he only had five targets at Washington for 5.7 fantasy points. So put Mooney into context with some of the guys we talked about like Marvin Harrison and Debo Samuel and Ricky Piersoll and then no interest in pits even with this matchup. Panthers are just terrible against Titans.

[Dave Richard]

I just, I don't trust it even on a week like this. He's not a top 12 tight end for me. And then Mooney's in the middle of the wide receiver three range for me. He's ahead of Debo Samuel. If Debo plays, he's ahead of and this might be a tough call, him versus Alamba Day Zakias, him ahead of Brandon Cooks, him ahead of Piersaw. I've got him ahead of the packers wide receivers, because of all the uncertainty there now we're throwing in that they might not play a full game. But that's the range for Mooney, who's 8 yards shy of a thousand.

[Adam Azer]

Anything to add, Jamie?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No. I do think, you know, Pitts had a good game against them the first time. It's, it's not someone you clearly can start with any semblance of confidence. But there have been, you know, some signs of life with, with Penix. If he catches the ball against the Giants, which is, you know, clearly a huge gaffe that turns into an interception in Pennix's first start that could have been Pennix's first touchdown. He goes to him in the most crucial of throws in that game again last week against Washington, scores a touchdown. So with just the. I think the one concern would be is the Falcons need to win this game. How much they just put it on Bijan Robinson and Tyler Algier and trying to limit Penix from having to be a savior for them or are they scoreboard watching and they see what the score of the Bucs is and it's just, okay, hey, you know what? Go air it out. Have fun. And it's, it's the Michael Pennock show in the second half, which could easily happen as well, you know, because that's, you know, like a preseason game for them since they're done. So I wouldn't be surprised either way if, if Pitts has a good game, like you said, the matchup's fantastic. He's a, he's a great, you know, a lot of people playing dfs, great DFS call because if he hits, he could hit in a big way.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. All right. We'll take a break and come back and talk about Washington at Dallas. And we'll be right back on Fantasy Football Today, now streaming on Paramount. Plus, what's your job when people go missing?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

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[Jamie Eisenberg]

Six.

[Adam Azer]

The six seed. Oh, right. The five seed is going to be the loser of Minnesota, Detroit.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right.

[Adam Azer]

And the six seed will play the Ranch.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's either going to be the Bucks or the Rams.

[Adam Azer]

Bucks or the Rant.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right.

[Adam Azer]

We don't.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right, right.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. Washington at Dallas 2020.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No, no, it will not be the Falcons. Falcons will be the fourth. So it will be the Bucks or the rams.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. Okay. Did 20, did Terry McLaurin make your top 12 at wide receiver for not 95? Yeah.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No.

[Adam Azer]

Interesting.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

And they will most likely be adding somebody there.

[Adam Azer]

McLaurin or Drake London next year?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

London.

[Dave Richard]

I will probably land on McLaurin. Short of them landing somebody big to work across from McLaren if they do something bombastic, then London would be the right answer.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, so for this game, start Jaden Daniels, start Terry McLaurin. And is Zach Ertz an easy start this week?

[Dave Richard]

Yes, he's a borderline starter. Yeah, no, he's better than that. He's a start.

[Adam Azer]

Okay.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So his last four healthy games have.

[Adam Azer]

Been amazing and he was, I think he was great against them the first time too, if I recall.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

He did. They've been good against tight ends, but he had a touchdown and I think.

[Adam Azer]

Six catches, six for 38 and a touchdown on eight targets. Yeah, that's what it was. Okay, Brian Robinson Jr. Now you know you might have seen Chris Rodriguez had a two yard touchdown run against the Falcons last week. He had five carries in the game. Chris Rodriguez, they all came on that drive and he had four carries in a row which culminated in him getting that 2 yard touchdown run. So I thought that was interesting. Just happened. It was like his drive and he finished it. But Brian Robinson Jr. Is definitely tough to trust right now. The Cowboys, they're a fine matchup. Not amazing, not bad. You know, they're fine starter, said Brian.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Robinson Jr. Jamie, so he's right behind Herbert and Carter. For me, he's ahead of the other group. I would start him over Jacobs and Mixon, just with the uncertainty of what those guys are going to do. That will change a little bit if Echler is active, just because then we're getting another guy who's going to get, you know, opportunities. I do think, you know, there was a lot of love for Rodriguez before that drive. He was doing a good job on pass protection and they just seem to like him quite a bit. So the way I have it ranked currently is Rodriguez is the second running back for Washington for me, ranked over Jeremy McNichols. You know, I don't know where McNichol stands in terms of what touches he'll get, but obviously this is a game that they, they should be able to win. You mentioned that Cowboys run defense when they first met them. Brian Robinson was my start of the week. He got hurt early in the game. You know, that was when he started to, I think, really show the flaws because I don't know how healthy he's been. He came back against the Titans and had the big game. Then they went to their buy and he hasn't been good since then. So they're, they also have been dealing with some offensive line issues. Biotics, their center has been in and out of the lineup. They should be fine. Now. This is, this is the Jane Daniels show at this point, though. So I think if you're trusting Brian Robinson, you're probably just doing it by default. He's touched down or bust. If Eckler comes back, he's certainly not going to be involved in the passing game. So it's, it's tough to say Brian Robinson is a safe running back for this week.

[Dave Richard]

The last time he scored a touchdown was against Tennessee. That was at the beginning of December. He played 54% of the snaps last week. And now here comes Austin Eckler to potentially Eckler will probably take McNichols off the field, but he could end up cutting into that workload even more. For Brian Robinson, who's not playing on third downs, clearly hasn't been scoring much, did play half of their four snaps inside the five last week. I, I wonder if they're slowly moving away from Brian Robinson, kind of like Jamie hinted at. So I, I don't feel very good about.

[Adam Azer]

I don't really see that. If Eckler's back, fine. But I mean, you're talking about Robinson. Last week he had what, how many carries did he have last week?

[Dave Richard]

13 for 60.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, that's a good game. And then you have six other carries from McNichols and Rodriguez combined. So 13 out of 19, that's not bad. You'd like to be a little bit better, but I don't think they're getting away from. I think Rodriguez. Like I said, he had one drive. He had five carries, all in one drive. He just happened to score on that drive. I don't know. That's my interpretation.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's just he hasn't been running with the same explosiveness, you know, since that Titans game where he looked awesome, you know, against the run defense at that point. That has still been, you know, holding up pretty strongly. I just wonder if, again, he's healthy, Offensive line's healthy. Clearly, Jane Daniels has gotten healthy, you know, when he was, you know, banged up with the rib injury, and now it's just completely dominating the offense. I don't know. I mean, I think again, Robinson is just more of a number two running back by default. If everybody was playing active healthy this week, he would be probably outside the top 24.

[Dave Richard]

He'd be like 30.

[Adam Azer]

All right, I have a couple of questions from the chat about this game, although it looks like I'm missing one. I'll find it.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I saw one. Brian Robinson or Rashad White? I still go Robinson.

[Adam Azer]

Oh, that's what it was. Yeah, Robinson. Rashad White. Yeah. The concern I brought up about Rashad White last week completely played itself out. He's being phased out of the run game, and if they're not trailing, then he could have a terrible game. And he did. Here's. Oh, okay, Hugh with your funny name. Carter. Michael Carter. Brian Robinson, Rico Dowdle, Devon Achan, who sits in ppr.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Robinson for me.

[Adam Azer]

All right, so that brings us to Dowdle, who you guys do like. Do you like Dowdle better than Michael Carter?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yes, I do, too.

[Adam Azer]

All right, you guys like Dowdle, then.

[Dave Richard]

I guess they're back to back. But Daddles was notch ahead.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I thought what that'll did last week was pretty impressive, you know, with everything sort of just crappy around them. Still getting 100 yards rushing was. Was good. And this kind of started his run was against Washington. When he had the 96 yards rushing, he should have had 12 PBR points. I think he lost one ball in the game. So he's, you know, Zeke is gone and, you know, he'll still lose some passing down reps, but I still think you're looking at. This is. This is their offense right now.

[Dave Richard]

100 plus rushing yards in four of his last five. The commanders have allowed at least 16 PPR points to each of the past three running backs that they've seen.

[Adam Azer]

Question Dowdle or Chase Brown?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Brown, if he plays.

[Dave Richard]

But I don't think it's. It's that far away because I just don't know how effective Brown will be.

[Adam Azer]

Dowdle or Aaron Jones?

[Dave Richard]

I have Jones. Higher.

[Adam Azer]

Brandon Cooks or lamaday? Zacchaeus?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

The keys.

[Dave Richard]

Agreed.

[Adam Azer]

Zacchaeus or Brian Washington?

[Dave Richard]

Who's Brian Washington?

[Adam Azer]

Brian Robinson. He plays for Washington.

[Dave Richard]

I might go Zakias over him and Parker Robinson.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. I have one concern about Rico Dowdle, though. Like, the Commanders give up five yards per carry, so I do think he's gonna run the ball well, but he's not catching the ball a lot right now. And the Commanders happen to be amazing at this. They give up the third fewest receiving yards per game.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Running backs, this is also one of these games where if they have a lead, they may start to pull guys. Washington.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, they might. All right. And Brandon Cook said he can crack your top 40.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

He's pretty close. I mean, you know, again, eight targets were good last week. First game without CD Lamb. The. The Cowboys are talking about maybe not playing Cooper Rush the whole game, so just keep that in mind.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, Mike McCarthy was like, I think he tried to be coy on that. Like, I don't. I don't want to talk about it. That's my Mike McCarthy impersonation. But yeah, Brandon Cooks is in my time. He's in Dave's top 40. He's 37.

[Adam Azer]

If we're concerned about Tucker Kraft not playing a full game, would you start Jake Ferguson over him?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No. He's just been so bad with Cooper Rush.

[Adam Azer]

Yes, he has.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's so frustrating. Like, okay, two games ago gets the. The. What was it, 10 targets? Nine targets. Nine had had the 10 PPR points and he just. No touchdowns on the season. Like, I. I'm just. Please get that back for progress in next year.

[Dave Richard]

He's in a contract year. Next year they can cut them and their dead cap hit will be under 200, 000. So this could be Jake Ferguson's last game in a cat.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Why would they cut Jake Ferguson?

[Dave Richard]

Because they've got Luke Schoonmaker, baby.

[Adam Azer]

The Saints are at the Buccaneers, by the way. Commanders DST is a low end starter. Saints are at the Buccaneers 20. 25. Question. Alvin Camara or Bucky Irving? PPR.

[Dave Richard]

Youth is served. Go with Bucky.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, it's got to be. All right, here's a fun stat about this game. Kate Otten is the only tight end to score against the Saints this year. About that. Is this a more or less start them all Citimal? Other than we're not going to start Rashad White, I don't think. But is this list like a much? Yeah, basically start them all citimal kind of deal.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You're starting Evans, you're starting McMillan, you're starting Baker, you're starting Bucky, you're sitting all the Saints. Yes.

[Dave Richard]

Our boy Mike Evans, 85 yards away from 1,000 for the 11th straight year.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, he did it.

[Adam Azer]

What if Olave plays any interest?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think he'd be in three receiver leagues. But it's still Spencer Rattler.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I don't trust it. First game back, back up quarterback. And I know it's the Bucks. Maybe for that reason alone you go with a lot of. I'd like him better in like a big tournament in dfs than I would my lineup.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

And again up big. Probably going to pull some guys off the field and then there's maybe some garbage time. But we've seen this situation for the Saints two weeks ago playing against backups for the packers, and it was still ugly.

[Dave Richard]

Do you think Baker Mayfield throws a touchdown?

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, he has a lot of incentives. He.

[Dave Richard]

He will have 40 touchdowns if he throws one. That's unheard. Like I. Maybe we could have talked ourselves into Baker Mayfield having a good year back in August. Forty touchdowns for Baker Mayfield. Holy cow.

[Adam Azer]

Incredible.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

That's another one to keep an eye on. Is. Does Liam Cohen get a head coaching job?

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. All right. I have to bring it up just because I have to bring it up. Marshawn Lattimore is not there, but Mike Evans has played six games against the Saint, against the Saints without Lattimore, and he's been awful in four of them.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I don't think this game qualifies.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, I hope not. Would you start Kate Otten if he plays like compare him to Jake Ferguson.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I would start him over Ferguson.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah. But that's not a. That's not a high bar.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

And how I start Pits over on.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. How high?

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I think I would, too.

[Adam Azer]

I'm McMillan this week.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Top 20 receiver.

[Dave Richard]

Do I have him that high? No, I don't have McMillan that high, but I do like him.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. Yeah. McMillan or the Bears guys?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

McMillan.

[Adam Azer]

All right.

[Dave Richard]

I've got. I've got Allen over McMillan. Close call between him and DJ Moore and PPR. I do have more a little higher.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think just the way Baker has played since McMillan has come on McMillan's been such a huge part of it, and you got a little angry. Baker didn't make a Pro bowl interesting.

[Dave Richard]

I don't. I. I think he's. He's grown and has bigger fish to fry than making the.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So much. So much maturity.

[Adam Azer]

Bigger fish to bake, even. All right, Seattle's at the Rams 2025. Question JSN or Kyron Williams, who goes first in PPR?

[Dave Richard]

That's a good question. I think it's Kyron, but I don't think they'll be that far apart on draft day.

[Adam Azer]

You're going to hear me talking about this a lot. JSN slot rate, it's like 77%. And unless that changes you, you just do not find wide receivers that are great for fantasy purposes with that slot rate. I want to see the high. I feel like Cooper cup has flirted with 70%, but JSN's got one of the highest slot rates in football, and that's just not good. But I, you know, rules are meant to be broken.

[Dave Richard]

Do you think that that's something that's changed, say, in the last, like, five years? Because once upon a time, there were a lot of slot receivers who had monster numbers and they played in the slot a lot.

[Adam Azer]

But I don't. But that is such a high slot rate because people used to consider Michael Thomas a slot receiver, and he was never anywhere near that. He was maybe like, 50%. I don't even know. Tyler Lockett was never anywhere near 70, I don't think. And maybe.

[Dave Richard]

Maybe, like, Tyler Lockett is the name you pull. I mean, I'm thinking about those Patriot slot receivers from back in the day.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Was there, you know, like, yeah, he's, you know, Chris Godwin, when Arians was in Tampa Bay, like, so.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, I don't think true. I. I don't think true media goes back that far with their slot rate. I think it's like 10 years or something like that. So. I don't know Wes Welker.

[Dave Richard]

Well, I mean, I remember watching Wes Welker and Julian Edelman. They were hardly ever out wide.

[Adam Azer]

It seems that way, but. But you. You don't really know unless you're really tracking it, but I'll see if I can find it for.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I would imagine Welker and Denver was probably close to that.

[Adam Azer]

See if I have anything on Edelman. Okay. Anyway, let's see. Slot rate. Do we have slot rate? He had. I have three years of Edelman. Slot rate, 52.3% with the Patriots. This is 2018, 19, and 20, 52.3, 79.2. And then it is 59.2, 59.2. In his last year, Edelman had a 73.2% slot rate and he only had 39 targets that year. So no. So like he had an amazing year in 2019 with a hundred catches, 11, 17 yards, six touchdowns. Not amazing, but very good year. And his slot rate was 59. That's what I'm talking about. Like, you would not even think for one second that Julian Edelman lined up out wide 40 of the time, but he did. Oh, you're right, you know, and JSN 77 slot rate. That's crazy. This game is this like the previous one start all Seahawks at all? Rams, basically. And I know they'll have some quorum questions, but is this how we're kind of viewing this game?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Pretty close. I mean, Charbonnet is the start of the week, so he's going to reward us in a big way, which unfortunately he should have last week. But yeah, Rams are going to play a bunch of backups and Gino has three pretty significant incentives that he is going to reach if he plays just average. So he's got the chance for, I think five incentives that would get him $10 million. But the three that are within range because he's not going to get his career high in touchdowns. But the three that are within range, if they win the game, he gets 10 wins, they get 10 wins, he gets $2 million. Right now his completion percentage is at 69. If he has a career high, which. I'm sorry, right now his completion percentage is over 70. His career high 69. So if he maintains his completion percentage as a career high, that's $2 million and he's within 100 some odd yards of a career high as well, that's another $2 million.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, it's 186.

[Adam Azer]

That's so much money.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So I mean like I, I honestly thought about Gino at the start of the week, like that that's just so much on the line for, for somebody like $6 million. Like we see like for example, J.K. dobbins that we talked about yesterday. He's. He's got 150, 000 bonus to get to 900 yards rushing. Like that's, that's pretty good.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. Yeah. Let me ask you a fantasy question. If you're the Seahawks and Geno Smith, because we were talking about splitting the pot before we went on the air today, would you say, hey, listen, we'll just give you A million. Don't even worry about it. Like, let's just split it.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Like, don't.

[Dave Richard]

Don't play.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

We'll give you a million.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Like, no, I'm gonna go out there and.

[Adam Azer]

Right, and like, we'll give you a million.

[Dave Richard]

And Mike McDonald talked about it as press conferences this week, saying that he'd love to get his players.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It was. If it was, here's four, and you sit like, they could keep two like that either.

[Dave Richard]

So it would have to be like 5.75 million.

[Adam Azer]

He has $6 million in incentives. Basically, yes.

[Dave Richard]

So you're the Seahawks incentive. I would say yes.

[Adam Azer]

They go out there and play, we'll give you 3 million. Whether you get there or not, we'll give you 3 million. You just go out.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, he could. He could. Look, he got hurt two weeks ago. He gets hurt and doesn't get the passing yards incentive and they lose the game. That's $4 million that he's lost.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. Wow. I don't think I'd do it. I think I'd gamble on myself. If I were Geno, I'd take four.

[Dave Richard]

Garrets, man, He's been doing that his whole career now. There are some teams when. I don't think it's with incentives this high. When there's a player that's, like, really close, like, I'm thinking about, like, DeAndre Hopkins and his incentives. The team will still give him the money and they'll rest him so he doesn't have to sweat it.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I think. I think he gets the game played. Incentive Hopkins, because all he has to do is stand on the field and then he just comes off.

[Dave Richard]

All right, he can do that.

[Adam Azer]

Question. So. So mech. So, like Charbonnet and. And Geno Smith's top 10 guys start him and JSN's an easy start. What about Metcalf?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You guys feel good after looking at this incentive? I wonder how much this played into Metcalf's targets because completion percentage is huge here and Metcalf obviously does a lot of stuff down the field.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, it's true.

[Dave Richard]

Is he 61 yards away from a thousand? Does he have any incentives working for him?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No idea. I haven't seen anything.

[Adam Azer]

Is he a top 24 guy this week?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No.

[Adam Azer]

Normally I wouldn't ask, but. Okay. Yeah, because, I mean, you could got an easy setup here against Rams backups.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, he's. I mean, he's not sit. But he's the number three guy. He's in that group of like, just outside the top 24 of, like, Marvin Harrison and DJ Moore. And trying to think of Michael Pittman like those. Those guys.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, he's behind them for me, but he's ahead of Mooney. Alec Pierce, Zacchaeus Cooks, Packers.

[Adam Azer]

How about this? Blake Corum or DK Metcalf?

[Dave Richard]

Mecca, I would agree. You know, the. The heart wants to take Blake Quorum, but the brain says no dk.

[Adam Azer]

All right, so Quorum in line for a significant workload, but not in the top 20 for these guys. Around 24th, 25th. Just because they have nothing but backups. And in theory and. Right. Not a great setup necessarily. All right, that brings us to the Giants at the Eagles 2025 question. Who you drafting first? Tyrone Tracy Jr. Or Devonte Smith?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Probably Tracy.

[Dave Richard]

I'll say Smith for now, because I. I would expect the Giants to add another running back. Not necessarily like a premier guy, but someone to pair with Tracy. Tracy can still be the best back there. And we might be drafting Tracy ahead of Smith, but for now, I'll say Smith.

[Adam Azer]

Tracy is limping toward the finish line here. He's scored some touchdowns that have kept him afloat, but he's averaging, like 3.3 yards per carry in his last six games, so it's not. Not great. So, anyway, who are the best starts in this game? Neighbors Is. Is Neighbors, I guess, is the only easy call here. I would think. Yes. Unless.

[Dave Richard]

And I think Tracy is fine to start. I don't want to trust any Eagles players. If there was one I had to trust, I would assume that Will Shipley would kind of be in the same boat as Blake Corum, just get a huge opportunity. But it's with backups. And even though it's against the Giants, I'd still be worried about Will Shipley having a big day. But Neighbors is in this race with Brock Bowers to be the record holder for most receptions by a rookie in NFL history. He's four catches behind Brow Bowers. And I wonder if, like, you know, the swan song for the Giants, besides winning, or for Dable, I should say, is just peppering Malik Neighbors with targets so that he can have, like, a 910 catch lead on Bowers going into the late games.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, they're going to win. I hate it. So it's so obvious they're going to win this game. Tracy is top 12. He's right around 12th for you guys. You start him over Josh Jacobs and Joe Mixon.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yep.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I'm there.

[Adam Azer]

And start him over Michael Carter and Khalil Herbert. Okay. Yeah, yeah, you Cannot look at a single thing that the Eagles have done this year and apply it to this game is going to be backups for them and the eighth pick in the draft for the Giants. Wonderful stuff. It's Giants dst. Any interest in the Giants dst?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Slightly, but it's just too tough to trust. So you know dfs? Yes, because they'll be cheap. Free draft. I would look other.

[Adam Azer]

Other options, but not Drew Lock. No one likes Drew Lock.

[Dave Richard]

No, I got him as like 20th.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. All right.

[Dave Richard]

Good.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Are you happy about it? This is exciting for Giants fans. A winning streak sucks.

[Adam Azer]

Gosh, they suck.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So do you want Davel back? You want Shane back?

[Adam Azer]

I don't care. That's the thing. It's apathy now. I don't think I want Joe Shane back. I think the drafts have just been too bad. It's hard to justify.

[Dave Richard]

Sounds like a guy ready to quit rooting for an NFL team on this side of the fence. Adam. No, it's beautiful over here.

[Adam Azer]

What'd you say, Jamie?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's just such a bad formula when you fire the GM and keep the coach.

[Dave Richard]

Hello, Chicago.

[Adam Azer]

All right, well, I got some emails at fantasy football cbsi.com and this is from Blue Grade. I forgot the name on the first one.

[Dave Richard]

No, it's Sven.

[Adam Azer]

Oh, hey, Sven from Iceland. Down by six. Geno Smith, Mac Jones, Michael Penix or Bryce Young, Gino Terry McLaurin or JSN.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

JSN.

[Dave Richard]

I believe I have JSN. Higher.

[Adam Azer]

This is from Ryan. This is an interesting email. I don't get a lot of this. Started listening to the show in week eight and haven't looked back. That's pretty good. I mean, we don't. We get new listeners. But in week eight, that's. That's pretty cool. He's in a two week championship. He's down by 3.7 fantasy points. And this is his first play. First year playing Fantasy. That's cool. All right. Bo Nix or Kyler Murray?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Nick's.

[Dave Richard]

I have Knicks higher.

[Adam Azer]

Camara Jameson Williams, Ray Davis or DeAndre Swift at Flex Jamo. And yeah, that's it. You might have to go with Ray Davis over Chase Brown because Chase Brown may not play. If that were the case, would you go Davis or DeAndre Swift?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'd go Davis.

[Dave Richard]

Wow.

[Adam Azer]

All right. This is from Nolan Ryan. Yeah, well, he does Orion in the greeting. This greeting is killing me. I don't know why I can't get this. Oh, I think I got it. Dear Ryan, Daryl, Roy, Mike and D'Angelo. Oh, I definitely got it. Okay, Ryan, Darryl, Roy, Mike, and D'Angelo Williams. I think it's the office.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I just went Roy Williams, D'Angelo Williams.

[Adam Azer]

Who's the Angelo? D'Angelo was Will Ferrell. I also thought we might have commanders cornerbacks there, but we're going with the office. Okay, leading by 15 in a two week championship PPR League 1. I pick three of these. One of them has to be a running back. So pick your running back first. Ray Davis, Carson Steele, Blake, Coram, Davis. I'll take Corum and give me two more. We got Ray Davis, Carson Steele, Blake Corum, Zakias Piersol, and Mims.

[Dave Richard]

I'll take Zacchaeus and Pierce.

[Adam Azer]

All. Okay, this is from Luke. Luke says, who would you play between Coram, Khalil, Herbert, Ray Davis and Michael Carter.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

One.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, Herbert.

[Dave Richard]

Agreed.

[Adam Azer]

And if Brown plays, who would you pivot to?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Carter.

[Dave Richard]

Agreed.

[Adam Azer]

And then Flowers or Jacoby Myers, Kobe.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Myers, but it's close. What's. What's the format?

[Adam Azer]

Kobe?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I don't think it says ppr. It would be Jacoby. Half Jacoby, non Flowers.

[Adam Azer]

That was a reference, right?

[Dave Richard]

Dave, what are you talking about?

[Adam Azer]

Very good. Okay, this is from Maggie. Maggie wrote us a very long email, so she gave us her entire lineup. If Chase Brown plays, would you put him in over Charbonnet or Brian Robinson Jr over B?

[Dave Richard]

Rob?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yep.

[Adam Azer]

She has Brock Bowers on her bench. She's starting Trey McBride. Would you start Bowers over Jalen McMillan?

[Dave Richard]

Is it full PPR?

[Adam Azer]

I don't know if it's full PPR.

[Dave Richard]

Yes. If it's non PPR or half PPR, I might swing it toward McMillan.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Well, if it's non PPR or half ppr, I would start Bowers over McBride because McBride has scored one touchdown this season in the air. So I would go Bowers and McMillan for yeah.

[Adam Azer]

And I'm looking at her bench. I think you're good. But Colts DST or Packers dst?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Oh, boy.

[Dave Richard]

There's no way Jamie's saying he would rather take a zero than go with the Colts dst.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, this is from.

[Dave Richard]

I went to dinner last night with friends, and as soon as I sit down, it's a father and son. They stare at me and they go, so the Colts dst, huh? And I go, yeah, they. They sucked. And they were like, you're buying dinner tonight, Dave.

[Adam Azer]

That was on you. I don't have an email. I don't have a name on this one. Dave, who's this from?

[Dave Richard]

Leo from Malibu, California.

[Adam Azer]

Dear missers, Mrs. Mooney, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs.

[Dave Richard]

Everybody knows that one.

[Adam Azer]

It's apparently Harry Potter. Okay, Penix, Caleb Williams or Geno Smith. Four point for passing. Touchdown.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Gino.

[Dave Richard]

I have Gino ranked the highest.

[Adam Azer]

Pick a running back, a receiver and a flex. He's already starting Charbonnet and jsn. So pick a running back, receiver, and a flex. Juwan Jennings, Tyreek Hill, Jaden Reed, Olave, Abdullah Quorum, Ray Davis, Rashad White.

[Dave Richard]

You were done after the first two.

[Adam Azer]

No, because you need a running back.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, crap.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Abdullah plays where the other running backs.

[Adam Azer]

Corum, Ray Davis, Rashad White.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So it's Abdullah if he plays for me. If not, it's Ray Davis.

[Dave Richard]

And I would take Corum instead of.

[Adam Azer]

Ray and Jennings and Tyreek. Okay, this is from Cooper, who voted for us. Thank you very much.

[Dave Richard]

That's cool.

[Adam Azer]

All right, he needs to start three. He's up 16 points. I don't have a scoring format here. Cortland Sutton, Tyreek Hill, Drake London, Jameson Williams starting three. Yes.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

For me, it's between Jameson and Tyreek. I guess if you want to just go with the highest scoring game, you can go Jameson. I'd probably still start Tyreek, but the other two are easy.

[Dave Richard]

I think I'm sitting London, especially if it's not full ppr.

[Adam Azer]

All right, so Jamie's starting Sutton, London, and Tyrique Davis starting Sutton, Tyreek and Jameson. This is from Mark Winters. And by the way, start Ray Davis over James Cook. Mark Winters says my biggest money league plays into week 18 on purpose. I love the guys in the group, so I can't leave Khalil Herbert or Breeze Hall.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Herbert.

[Dave Richard]

I think I might take Breeze.

[Adam Azer]

Start 1. Marvin Harrison, Jr. Quinton Johnston, Josh Downs, Alec Pierce, Marvin Mims.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Just one?

[Adam Azer]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Marvin Harrison.

[Adam Azer]

Big fred from Queens, New York.

[Dave Richard]

Big Fred.

[Adam Azer]

Sit one in PPR. Evans, Brian Thomas, Jr. Neighbors. London. Sit London from Nolan. Start another.

[Dave Richard]

Nolan.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, isn't that.

[Dave Richard]

What are the odds?

[Adam Azer]

Start two. Worthy. Can't start him. So start two of these three. Pearsall, Mims. Zacchaeus.

[Dave Richard]

I'll sit. Mems.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I will sit. Pierce all. If Debo plays, I will sit. Who's the third one?

[Adam Azer]

Zacchaeus Zakia, Mims. Piercel.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'll sit. Mims if.

[Adam Azer]

And finally, from Tim, give me two running backs from this list. Josh Jacobs, Garendo Jalen, Warren, Antonio Gibson, Ramandre Stevenson.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Sorry, give me names again.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, we're not gonna go with the Patriots guys, so pick two of these three. Ppr. Jacobs, Garendo, Jalen, Warren, Warren and Garanda for me.

[Dave Richard]

I agree.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, folks, thank you so much. Good luck to you in week 18. This is our last show until Monday, so we're gonna have our off season content begin on Monday and it's three times a week. We'll help you out with playoff dfs and playoff challenges and those types of things. But obviously we'll spin it forward to 2025. We're gonna do some mock this. It's gonna be great. Don't go anywhere. And yeah, have a wonderful weekend. Good luck in your championships.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I really think we should be doing a show Sunday night with Thomas just to watch him sweat that one up.

[Adam Azer]

I have plans. I have a tradition. I watched Week 18 Sunday Night Football with the same two guys, two buddies of mine, every year. So keeping that going.

[Dave Richard]

Are these real friends or imaginary friends?

[Adam Azer]

Real friends, but they haven't confirmed yet, so they might be imagining area this year.

[Dave Richard]

Guys, tradition. Never mind.

[Adam Azer]

I think one of them's in, the other one's not really responding. That's depressing. All right, later, everybody. Paramount Podcasts Paramount plus is your home.

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