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Adam
On September 19, producer Jordan Peele asks, what are you willing to sacrifice? In a new horror film called him, starring Marlon Wayans and Tyreek Withers. Stay tuned to hear an exclusive trailer for the film. Right now, do I look at you or the camera? He'll just look right at me. You'll just ignore the camera. There are a lot of people saying you could be the next great quarterback. I can already see it now. Cam running down the tunnel with crowd chanting his name. I hear you've been invited to train with legend Isaiah White himself. Care to elaborate? I want to be the goat. Cameron King. Great. Me and you. I'm a fan.
Jamie
That's crazy.
Adam
I damn near worshiped you growing up. Who are you? I'm him. Who are you? I'm him. Let's play a little catch. We going to the lake. You want to play at your highest level. You want to be a legend? Let me tell you something. In the game, what, are they just going to toss the ball around a little? You want to hit this? You can't handle it. I understand. Shut up. Oh, too slow. Shut up. Wait. Sh. What are we doing? That man smile about to be on the floor. This how you do teammate. What is this? In this game, violence is rewarded. So learn to enjoy it. Get your together. Activate my cam. Are you okay? I think something's off. Do you want to know what you're getting yourself into now? We playing some football. Don't have to do this. I've never been more certain of anything in my life. And how bad does Cameron Cade want it? I ain't a killer, but don't push me. I'm not just gonna give it to you. You got to take it for me. I ain't a killer, but don't push me. What if I say no? Think of it as a gift from the gods, but don't push me. So what are you willing to sacri. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play. Can you believe this? No, I can't.
Dave
It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
Adam
Off to the races. And he stays on his feet. This is going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Happy Friday, everybody, and welcome to Fantasy Football Today presentation presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. Breaking news. The packers are awesome. Dave, are they gonna win the Super bowl?
Dave
They're gonna win 10 straight Super Bowls. That's how good they are.
Adam
Yeah. No, they really, they.
Dave
They are a fantastic watch. Just from the standpoint of their defense. For the second week in a row, they're, they're. The way that they schemed up to take on Jaden Daniels was masterful. And they're getting great play, obviously out of their pass rush, but their linebackers, their safeties, their corners. Keyshawn Nixon had an awesome game. This is, this is rapidly becoming the toughest defense for people to start players against in fantasy.
Adam
Yeah. Thank goodness for garbage time. Zach Ertz, he actually wasn't really garbage time. He had a big game. But Debo Samuel, would I call it garbage time? I don't know. Thank goodness for playing catch up. Debo Samuel started in 59% of leagues, seven catches, 44 yards and a touchdown. Ertz started in 44% of leagues, six for 64 and a touchdown on eight targets. That's two touchdowns and two games for Zach Ertz. Kind of picking up where he left off. Today. We have seven games to talk about. We have the NFC home games, plus Rams at Titans and Seattle at Pittsburgh. Couple of games that are AFC home games featuring an NFC team. We'll also talk about Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, Minnesota, San Francisco, New Orleans, the Giants and the Cowboys and Carolina at Arizona. But we will recap this game. Dave, I'm going to give you an easy question. By the way, Jamie will be joining us shortly. Easy trivia question for you. Who said this? It's the first time I've ever gotten over 100 yards, including college.
Dave
I have absolutely no.
Adam
Oh, come on. Who had 100 yards in this game?
Dave
Only one guy who had 100 yards in this game.
Adam
Yeah, Tucker Craft. First time, including college, he's ever gotten over 100 yards.
Dave
Really? Okay.
Adam
According to him.
Dave
I mean, I was pretty sure about that for the pros. I have no idea what he did in college, but it's amazing how Matt Lafleur's vision in January is now in full focus in September. Two straight great games. He's reached must start status. I had him ranked sixth among tight ends and I felt like that. I feel like a heel for having him ranked that low.
Adam
How about this is a good one here. Kraft yak and cheese. That's clever.
Dave
Because of the yaki gets.
Adam
He is a big yak guy. Okay, so let's. We'll finish with our thoughts on the commander's running backs because Austin Eckler, I think we're all anticipating the worst. He obviously has a, an Achilles injury that's been acknowledged. No, no word on whether it's a terror yet, but okay. Like we, we saw it and it's not Good. So we'll talk about that last. Let's talk about the positive stuff first. What are your big takeaways from the Packers? And you know, also a little bit of a negative. Like can we even trust any of their wide receivers right now? But, but they look like a well oiled machine.
Dave
They, they do. And for now Tucker Kraft is their best pass catcher. But you can start to see it with Matthew golden. Some of the ideas that they have on how to use him. He was, I don't know how close he was to catching a 32 yard touchdown in the first half. He needed to adjust better to that ball and if he does he, if he fights for more, he's kind of waiting for it in the end zone and it got knocked away. If he, if he like is more aggressive going after the catch, that's a touchdown. He was targeted on a deep throw. After that, just timing was off a little bit. With Jordan Love. In time you can see Matthew golden potentially being a much bigger part of the packers passing game. So I'm excited about that. It stinks that Jaden Reed broke his collarbone. He's going to be gone six to eight weeks, but that's going to open the door for Romeo Dobbs to get a couple more targets. He had five in the game on Thursday. Don Tavian Wicks was getting work, but I'm not sure if that's sustainable from a week to week thing. I would say that if you've got golden, hang on to him. He's gonna come into play at some point this year. I don't think Tucker Craft is going to get 100 yards very often, but seven targets might be the case in the short term until the packers do find a little bit more consistency among their wide receivers. And Jordan Love, I think he's got to be considered a starting fantasy quarterback now.
Adam
Yeah, I, I look, I mean I was a little nervous because he was missing two offensive linemen and they had some penalties. The line had a lot of penalties that kind of killed drives or they could have put up a much bigger number than the 27, which is amazing to say the 27 they scored against Washington. But Love is playing at a very high level right now, so I think fantasy managers will be confident on the other side of the ball. Any concerns about Jaden Daniels? It's, he's averaged about 23 points per game in two games against the Giants and the packers and then Debo or Terry McLaurin going forward and I mean just talk about the Commanders passing offense here because ertz, has had two good games too.
Dave
I really did not like their game plan for, for Green Bay and they really didn't start to do more of the short and intermediate passing and horizontal route running until the second half. They really looked lost. It looked almost like they were in preseason mode to start the game. And obviously some of that has to do with how Green Bay's defense was performing. Again, their secondary does a great job of like matching up with, with the receivers that are out there running routes and it's, it's just great seeing they, they can make every offensive line look stupid with four pass rushers. They don't need to blitz every single down and distance. I would like to see Jaden Daniels against inferior competition before I start to worry about him. I think we should feel lucky with what he gave us last night and you're still starting him. Maybe it's not with the same sort of excitement as when we drafted him, but yeah, I'd like to see him run a little bit more. I mean, that's part of the reason why we have him on our fantasy teams and why we expect huge numbers from him. And he didn't really get a chance to do a ton of that in this game. I think he turned down chances to run against Green Bay's defense. That kind of worries me a little bit. Some of his decision making some of the throws that he made, that worries me a little bit. But it's not enough to make me say, okay, I have to get another quarterback.
Adam
I have to go pick up, you.
Dave
Know, Daniel Jones or Michael Penix off the waiver wire and, and have those guys on my bench just in case Daniels gets worse. I'm not there yet.
Adam
He's fine. Who, Daniels?
Dave
Yeah, but I mean, you kind of wish that he had, you know, 40 yards rush.
Adam
Well, he rushed for 70 something yards in the first game. You know, he. 68 rushing yards against Giants. So what did the Packers.
Dave
We need more of that though. And we didn't get that against Green Bay. And it just, it seemed, it seemed like something was off with him.
Adam
It's. In my opinion it was the Packers. As they said on the broadcast, they played zone defense. They did most of the game. And what does that do? Zone defense? You're watching the quarterback man defense, you have your back to the quarterback. So a little more susceptible to runs. And as you said, they got pressure with 4. They had a 49 pressure rate, which is extremely high. And they had a 23.5% blitz rate which is not high at all. So you're getting pressure with four and you've got your linebackers out there to stop the run. So I just think it was, it was a bad matchup and he's, and he still against a defense that so far looks really, really good. Jaden Daniels still scored 23.7 fantasy points. So I, but you didn't draft him.
Dave
To get 23.7 fantasy points.
Adam
But we're fine.
Dave
Okay, but that's, that's the point is that you've got to hope for better days ahead for him.
Adam
And I, I, they'll be there.
Dave
He's got Las Vegas next week, he's got Atlanta after that. I bet we see a couple of like 27, 28 point games.
Adam
DeBoer, McLaurin, rest of season, it's still McLaurin.
Dave
I love that he had nine targets. I, I wish that he had caught more of them of course. But the, the timing is starting to get there with between him and Jayden Daniels and it's just like what we talked about before the season started is he's going to need time to ramp up because he didn't really have a training camp. I'm telling you, McLaurin's going to be fine. He's a buy low candidate.
Adam
Zachary, do you buy that he's going to be a start worthy starting tight end rest of season?
Dave
Yeah, I mean he's in that range. Another tight end that I had ranked too low this week just because I wasn't sure about how many targets he would end up getting. And the fact that he caught a touchdown is what made his, his stat line awesome. Do I think he's going to score a touchdown every week? Of course not. So he's, he's on that border of being a top 12 tight end.
Adam
All right, now we got to talk about Austin Eckler and by the way.
Dave
You'Re still starting Debo until further notice is at least a PPR flex.
Adam
We got to talk about Austin Eckler and the running backs here. It was McNichols who came in for him late in the game. But you know they're trailing. You're, I don't think you're going to see Cross Merritt come in when it's an obvious passing situation. But what is the impact in your opinion here on the commander's running backs?
Dave
They need somebody who can play on passing downs. I don't think Crosby Merit is anywhere close to being ready for that. I think Rodriguez might be able to do some of that, but I bet they trust McNichols in that role. And so you're. It could get ugly. Could get like, you know, a messy three way type of situation at running back where Crosky Merit starts, but on passing downs it could be McNichols and then Rodriguez is sprinkled in until they find somebody that they really feel comfortable with as a feature back. And I don't know if they will this year. I think that's what we're going to see. It makes me nervous about starting any of them as anything more than like, well, Merit is the only one that you'll start is like maybe a flex next week against Las Vegas.
Adam
Well, looking at the five games that Echler missed last year, it was a big boost for Brian Robinson Jr. I think you said in terms of his catch, as I remember you saying in the preseason, but just in terms of the routes he ran. He ran a lot more routes. He split passing down work with usually McNichols, sometimes with Chris Rodriguez, who I think will probably be active going forward. Think so. This really did help Brian Robinson. He even played on third downs in a way that he wasn't doing when Austin Eckler was playing. He didn't play exclusively on third downs, but let's see, it was weeks four and then 13 through 17. So he had three catches in week four, then one, three, two and two. So that's, that's four, eight. That's 11 catches. How many catches did he have total? He had 11 catches in five games without Austin Eckler last year. Maybe you can look up how many he had in total, but I, I don't see how this doesn't increase the workload in some capacity for Jacori Crosby, even if it's just carries. He was splitting carries. I mean, I hate to say it in such a callous way, but this is good for, this is good for Crosby Merit. Right.
Dave
To the extent that he would have in the neighborhood of 10 to 15 carries per game, depending on how the game goes.
Adam
Sure. I think they have no choice but to give this guy more work. It may not happen immediately.
Dave
They better be right about him.
Adam
Yeah, they may not happen immediately, but he's got to look, Rodriguez is inactive on game day. He's a healthy scratch. Obviously they like him better than him. Of course, he's their best running back right now. You'd think. Best guy running the football, right?
Dave
Yeah. I mean you could even see flashes of it in, in Thursday's game where he just has good downhill speed. It's kind of egregious that they didn't use him more in the first half.
Adam
Agreed. All right, so we'll talk about that.
Dave
He didn't have, he didn't have a touch in the first quarter. McLaurin didn't have a touch in the first quarter and Debo didn't have a touch in the first quarter. Now they didn't have the ball that much in the first quarter, but it's, it's kind of, it's just another thing that makes me nervous about Cliff Kingsbury. And what's he thinking? Like, why don't you get these playmakers involved right off the bat instead of throwing to Noah Brown?
Adam
Well, I mean that's, he's not the one throwing the passes. But your point, your point.
Dave
The plays are designed to go to these guys. They're taking away all these guys.
Adam
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Dave
Not yet. And even if he were cleared to play, I'm not sure that we'd feel good about starting him.
Adam
By the way, thank you to our producer, our Friday producer, Josh Brian Robinson Jr. Had 20 catches all season and 11 came in those five games without Austin Eckler last year. So that's a good. It's a good note. Let's see. Christian McCaffrey practicing full. Jalen Wright for the Dolphins was limited in practice. How about the Bucks news? Dave, Chris Godwin and Trent and Tristan Worth, that's his name. Back at practice. Almost certainly not going to play this week, but encouraged that maybe we might see Godwin a little earlier than we thought, sure.
Dave
I'm real curious to learn about how he's looked in practice and certainly going to take a look at how he plays once he does get back on the field. If you've got Godwin on your bench, keep him on your bench. I'm. I don't think he's someone that you try and trade for yet.
Adam
Xavier Worthy does not need surgery. Could be back in a couple of weeks. And Jalen Royals continues to miss practice. There's a lot of this stuff. I repeat, repeat from yesterday. Drake London expected to play Darnell Mooney, limited. Juwan Jennings missed practice again and looks like Wandelle Robinson's gonna play Brock Bowers, though this was their first practice. Yesterday was their first practice of the week because they have the Monday game, one of the two Monday games against the Chargers. He missed practice and I, I don't think we can just say he's certainly going to play Brock Bowers.
Dave
Hopefully I would be nervous if he misses practice on, on Friday.
Adam
Yeah, Isaiah likely missed practice. He's not probably not going to play. Evan Ingram should be good. And Dallas Goddard still not practicing. Trent Williams missed practice. It is unbelievable how injured the 49ers are. And by the way, Trent Williams, who for a while has been considered one of the best, if not the best offensive lineman left tackles in football. He got awful grades from PFF in week one. That line struggled. And left guard Ben Bartch is dealing with an injury. So he. So the 49ers have just so many injuries as they get ready to face the Saints. Taylor Decker, left tackle for the Lions. He's expected to play. Andrew Thomas questionable. We mentioned the Rams have had three offensive linemen that are beat up, two of them that are week to week. Morgan Moses for the Patriots is banged up. The Dolphins have offensive line injuries. The Texans, the Saints, they're optimistic about left tackle. I think right tackle to Lease Fuaga. I don't know which tackle he is. Middle tackle, left tackle. Thank you. Optimistic about him playing. And Tampa Bay right tackle Luke got a key. Missed practice. On defense, Sauce Gardner was limited. Dallas cornerback Daron Bland could be out several weeks with a foot injury. Jacksonville linebacker Foyer Luakun, all you IDP years know him. He missed practice. Let's see Jalen Johnson practice in full, so he's probably going to play. But Kyler Gordon corner, another cornerback for the Bears, he's been missing practice and so has defensive tackle Grady Jarrett. Joey Porter Jr. Best corner for the Steelers, he missed practice. They're going to already be without Derek Harmon, a defensive tackle, a rookie and safety to Sean Elliott. So things could be a little bit easier for the Seahawks offense there. Buffalo defensive tackle Ed Oliver has an ankle injury that's a big one to keep an eye on, and Christian Gonzalez continues to miss practice for the Patriots.
Dave
Don't Weak is it?
Adam
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Dave
Saint Brown for sure. Javante Williams I like. He's at minimum a flex, if not a low end. Number two wide receiver. Who Jameson. Hold on, let me have a little coffee. That'll help me a little.
Adam
Okay. So Jamo's life is your second favorite receiver in this game?
Dave
Well, if I'm saying Javante Williams and I don't know who the hell I'm going with, I'm sorry about that. Jameson Williams is going to be my second favorite. I think I have more over odunes A and full PPR and a dunes over more than half a non ppr. Those guys are flexes.
Adam
Okay, Atlanta's at Minnesota. Do you like a quarterback or a tight end in this game?
Dave
Well, Javante Williams is certainly in. I kind of like J.J. mcCarthy against Atlanta. I'm not convinced that the Falcons pass rush is. Is that much better. So I'm kind of. I'm. I liked what I saw from him in the fourth quarter and I wonder if the Vikings can build on that and they might need to because this could end up being a decently high scoring game. So McCarthy's in play for me as a maybe start. Penix, I think is. Is a maybe start as well if he's got Darnell Mooney back and seems like Drake London's okay. He's been practicing this week, so I. I feel okay about him, but I like McCarthy a little bit more. I don't love pits if Mooney is playing and I, I don't love TJ Hawkinson, but he is startable.
Adam
Okay. Yeah. The Mooney injury obviously is going to determine how we feel about Kyle Pitts. Just mentioned. Would you start J.J. mcCarthy or Baker Mayfield? Baker Trevor Lawrence at the Bengals or McCarthy against the Falcons? I have Trevor hire Patrick Mahomes or.
Dave
They'Re actually back to back to back to back in my rankings. Baker, Lawrence, Mahomes.
Adam
Yes, they are. I'm sorry about that. I hate when I do that.
Dave
Well, why do you hate that?
Adam
When I ask you, you know, this guy or this guy and they're back to back, you know, it's kind of like. It's kind of a toss up.
Dave
Right. But at least you're not asking me JJ McCarthy or Daniel Jones or, you know, Spencer Rattler. You're asking legit questions. Who cares if they're back to back?
Adam
Yeah. Okay. Well, thank you.
Dave
As long as I got an answer.
Adam
I needed that. Pick me up. Who's next here? We got Los Angeles at the Titans, the Rams at the Titans.
Dave
Titans are an FC home game.
Adam
So I'm glad you asked. I mean, I'm not really glad you asked, but I'll take. I'll field this question. So I have to do when there's a full week, eight games on Thursday, seven games on Friday because I know we have on Friday. We have to recap the Thursday game. So I always do one fewer game on Friday. We didn't have an equal amount of AFC and NFC home games this week. We had a lot more AFC home games than we had NFC home games. So I wasn't going to have 10 games on Thursday and five games on Friday to. To preview. So that's why I took two games that involved an NFC team and moved them to the Friday show.
Dave
So we're really, we're really disappointing people who were hoping to hear about the Rams Titans game on Thursday's show.
Adam
Right.
Dave
Because they didn't get to hear that much about them. Okay, go ahead. What's your one question for that game?
Adam
Do you, do you think we get bounce backs from Devonte Adams and Calvin Ridley?
Dave
Yeah, I think we do. I think it's going to be an easier matchup for Ridley certainly because the Rams play a lot more zone than man defense. I think that'll help Ridley find space to get open and I still believe that he's got good timing and chemistry with Cam Ward. There was nothing in the game last week to make me think that that wasn't a thing. I like that he had eight targets in the game. I like that Devonte Adams was involved in the offense for the Rams. It was a tough matchup against Houston. Titans are going to be a sneaky tough matchup too. But I think that Devonte Adams can win against them and I would start him as a number two wide receiver. I like Adams more than Ridley. They are not back to back in my rankings.
Adam
Yeah. Do you like Adams more than Jameson Williams?
Dave
I do have Adams one spot ahead of Jameson Williams.
Adam
Do you like Adams better than Javante Williams?
Dave
Yes. Regardless of.
Adam
Actually I'm gonna start. I'm starting Javonte in it, I think at least two leagues this week. You could see it, you know. And we're have a question about him shortly. San Francisco at New Orleans. Ricky Pearsall or Chris Olave?
Dave
It's Pierce all he's got a huge opportunity. It's just with Mac Jones throwing to him. Had a little debate about this on our, our show on Sports Network about how what should the expectations be for Ricky Pierce hall because on one hand he's going to, he should theoretically get a lot of targets. I mean he's the healthiest receiver that the 49ers have and we know that Mac Jones, what we saw from him last year with Brian Thomas Jr. He, he loves to just spam targets to his number one guy. It makes sense. It's what he did last year. I don't know if he's going to do that in this game. We know what the track record is of receivers with Kyle Shanahan, but circumstances might alter that and so Pearsall is still a good start. I'd call him a flex at minimum. Wouldn't want to necessarily say that he's a must start type of wide receiver because if we know he's going to get a lot of targets, the Saints are going to know that he's going to get a lot of targets and it's going to be pretty easy for them to keep a safety over the top of Pearsall so he doesn't beat them deep. And it is a downgrade at quarterback no matter, no matter how you slice it. And if the offensive line is a mess, if Trent Williams ends up not playing or if he's at 70%, that's going to put more pressure on Mac Jones. And we've seen him when he's under pressure. He's not very good just like most quarterbacks. And so I've got Pearsall ranked as a flex. I would start him over. Olave. They could both get in the neighborhood of eight to 10 targets in the game.
Adam
Giants and Cowboys rank these three players. Tyrone Tracy Jr. Javante Williams, George Pickens.
Dave
Well, certainly Jameson Williams at the top of that list. All right, enough of that. I think Pickens and Javante are close. I kind of like Javante because of the matchup. I think he's going to get some opportunities just overall because the Giants will be not necessarily competing offensively. I know that the Cowboys defense losing drawn Bland is a problem. I think Javante is a decent start at running back. He'll catch the ball a little bit. I'm going to give him the not over picking just by a little bit. Pickens is next and then Tyrone Tracy third.
Adam
The Giants allowed the second most rushing yards before contact per carry in week one. They got plowed by the commander's offensive line, and I've now seen the commander's offensive line against a good defense and it didn't really hold up. So I do think that's partially a Giants are bad stat, and it could be, you know, a successful game for Javante Williams. Obviously, he's not, I mean, I'm not like, super jazzed to start him, but the, the Cowboys beat the Giants at 13 times in a row. Dak Prescott has beaten the Giants, so you can.
Dave
Adam.
Adam
What?
Dave
I won't. I, I, I think I want to change my mind.
Adam
Okay.
Dave
I think I'd rather start Pickens.
Adam
Pickens.
Dave
I just, I, I don't know if I have it in my guts to start Javante Williams with a high amount of confidence.
Adam
Okay. But I'm starting him over Tracy.
Dave
I, I'll start him over Tracy as well. I, I just, I'm just, I'm really worried about the Giants holding up their end of the bargain in this game and the Cowboys not having to throw that much. But at the same time, there should be opportunities for picking. So if it's full ppr, I think Pickens is the answer, not Javante.
Adam
All right, Seattle's at Pittsburgh. Who's your favorite running back in this game?
Jamie
Do I.
Dave
It's, you know who it is. It's Zach Charbonnet, who seems like the best running back for Seattle right now. The only encouraging thing that I saw from Kenneth Walker last week was straight line speed. He's got that, but anytime he had to cut. I talked about this earlier in the week. It just, it took him a while to, like, plant and go, and that makes me wonder if he's really not close to 100 with that foot. We know that Zach Charbonnet had more carries, certainly more playing time and played on third downs, and I think he led the way on, on short yardage carries. I have to double check my notes on that, but I, I'd rather start him than Kenneth Walker and I'd rather start Charbonnet over Jalen Warren.
Adam
How about Charbonnet versus Javante and Tracy?
Dave
I've got Charbonnet ahead of both of those guys.
Adam
Oh, wow. Interesting. Okay. Carolina at Arizona. How much do you like Kyler Murray this week?
Dave
I don't love him. He's. He's startable. But I, I think I'd rather go with McCarthy. Certainly would rather go with Baker, Lawrence and Mahomes.
Adam
Okay. 23 points ish from Jaden Daniels last night. Do you think Kyler Murray beats that six point per passing touchdown?
Dave
No, I think he falls just short.
Adam
All right, now we'll do the deep dive into the game. Chicago's at Detroit stat of the game from 2024. That probably doesn't mean much, but hey, let's hear it anyway. In 2024, only two wide receivers scored more than 12.3 PPR fantasy points against the Bears with fewer than seven targets. You basically had to get seven or more targets to be good against the Bears last year. I'm just. Why not? Okay, Are you buying? Because Jamie seems kind of all in on this idea, golf's start of the week, that the Lions come out and just look like the Lions again. What do you think?
Dave
It's a little bit of hope because I just, I hated the way that they ran their offense last week against Green Bay. But again, we've now seen the packers twice and, and their defense is just lights out. So I am hoping that the Lions adjust and that they are planned much better for what the Bears are going to throw at them. And it's, it's nowhere near as good of a defense. Their pass rush isn't as good. If their secondary is beat up, that's going to help them all the better. I, I think we do see a bounce back game, particularly from Gibbs and St. Brown. But I think you'll also see some chunk plays from Jameson Williams. And I think you'll see David Montgomery score too. Three games in his career against the Bears. At least 10 PPR points in each. That's safe floor. 14 plus PPR points in two of.
Adam
The three is Montgomery.
Dave
That's David Montgomery.
Adam
Montgomery or Swift.
Dave
I'd start Montgomery.
Adam
What do you, why do you like them both?
Dave
I like them both. They're both number two running backs. I just, I continue to be sort of mystified by what I see from DeAndre Swift and the lanes that he misses seeing. I, I really couldn't stand how he had two catches on the first drive last week and then one catch the rest of the game. Like why wouldn't they involve him more? And maybe they do. Well, I think Montgomery has a better shot to score.
Adam
My thought on that was that I didn't, I didn't look at this on the All 22, but it seemed like they threw to him very early and then the Vikings adjusted and that's when Caleb Williams started running instead of checking down.
Dave
I'm not 100% sure those were design targets to DeAndre Swifty. I almost feel like those were like holy crap, I'm in trouble. I got to get the ball out right I know that DeAndre Swift is in that area. I'm going to throw over there.
Adam
That's exactly what it was. But what I'm saying is they took that away and then he adjusted by running. But I can't really say that for sure. So I'm going to look at. I'm going to look at some of the most activated players. These are guys that were on benches that are now in starting lineups and I'm going to compare them to some of the players that we're talking about. So Javante Williams or DeAndre Swift?
Dave
Swift.
Adam
Travis Etn. Definitely Etn, right, absolutely. Keon Coleman or DeAndre Swift?
Dave
Swift.
Adam
Okay, let's move on here. And then you like Montgomery better than Swift. So you like Montgomery better than all the guys I just talked about here. Keon Coleman or DJ Moore and Roma Dunze?
Dave
I will take the Bears wide receivers over Keon Coleman. I am concerned about what kind of coverage Keon Coleman will command against the jets and whether or not they do shadow him with Sauce Gardner to try and take away one seemingly large piece of that Bill's passing game.
Adam
Do you realized all the alliteration you just did there, right?
Dave
What's alliteration?
Adam
Kind of coverage Keon Coleman will command was very good. So you said you like more better in PPR, you like Odunze better in non and half PPR, but you don't have them in your top 30. So what's the hesitation here? You're just not really super hopeful for Caleb Williams, right?
Dave
It's lack of confidence in Caleb Williams and just his. I want to see him play calmer and when he does that, maybe we can start to see some developed consistency from these wide receivers.
Adam
So there was some debate on social media about whose fault it was when he missed DJ Moore wide open late in the game. And it turns out it was D.J. morris. He did not run the proper route.
Jamie
So.
Adam
But Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams had the highest off target rate in the NFL in week one. He. He was really not good in my opinion. I mean, he did some good things, but he struggled. So definitely we're not starting him. Jared Goff, where do you have him? Jamie has him seventh. Where do you have him?
Dave
I have him eighth.
Adam
Okay. So you like golf a lot this week, right?
Jamie
Okay.
Dave
It's just a completely different situation for him. I don't think the pass rush is going to be on him anything like it was last week. And I, I think he'll. The Bears are going to end up playing a lot more man coverage too. That's just a Dennis Allen thing. It's what he wants to do. And if. If they're going to play man to man against Saint Brown and. And Jamo, I would imagine there's going to be some wins for the taking there.
Adam
And you do have the. The usual top five ahead of Jared Goff. You also have Justin Fields and Justin Herbert ahead of golf. And then it's golf at 8. So you talked about Jameson Williams a little bit earlier. You've got him 24th in full PPR, 21st and non. Isaac Tesla is a name to know. We did beat the waiver wire yesterday and his name came up. He's 17 rostered. He should have a bigger role. Start Laporta.
Dave
I would start Sam Laporta and we're gonna have at this point. What's that? I said it's an easy call to start Sam Laporta.
Adam
And what about Loveland? It's an easy call to sit him. Right.
Dave
Easy call to stash him. I've seen him dropped in a couple of leagues. I feel like that that will come back to haunt you eventually. It's just. Is it going to haunt you in week two or is it going to haunt you in week 12? It's just one of those things. And I think it's not going to haunt you so soon because Caleb Williams and just the way that he's throwing right now makes it. You would never start Colson Loveland anyway. So if you need the roster spot and you want to let him go, hopefully you can get him back later because eventually I'd like to think the Bears will be able to figure all this out and they get loveland more involved.
Adam
21 routes run compared to 29 for Cole Comet. So that's still an issue. But we're going to.
Dave
How many targets they combined for last week?
Adam
Six. Three. Let's see. Six. Four for Comet, two for Loveland.
Dave
Yeah. So until that changes, Loveland's got to be on the bench and he's got huge upside. It's just a matter of when.
Adam
The Lions DST was terrible. They got zero pass rush basically last week at Green Bay. But they are a starting DST for us this week. 11th for Jamie, six for Dave, eighth for Heath. And they're available in 40% of leagues. All right, let's go to Atlanta at Minnesota. So I asked you about the quarterbacks and the tight ends and look, we're not ranking Penix as a starter. He's coming off a really good game with a rushing touchdown. But you are ranking McCarthy as a starter. I think he's right around 12th for you.
Dave
He is exactly at 12th.
Adam
Who are the tough calls in this game?
Dave
McCarthy's absolutely one of them. In fact, every Viking, I think is a tough call outside of Justin Jefferson because I think Jordan Mason is, is the best running back to go with from this team, especially if it's non ppr, half ppr. Is, is he a slam dunk for fantasy lineups? I mean, I think you have to be a little thin at running back in order to consider Jordan Mason. And I think you have no choice but to start Hawkinson at this point. But last week was just an ugly dud game. And I do know that the Falcons, let's see, I, I, if they're going to use Jesse Bates on T.J. hawkinson, that, that's going to be, that could be a tough matchup for Hawkinson to win on a regular basis.
Adam
They threw 20 passes last week. You know, that was a huge problem, I think for Hawkinson, who blocked very well. I gotta say, from what I saw last week, you know, he had a good game, but he didn't have a good receiving game. So that is going to be a guy that we have a lot of questions about. Are you starting a streamer over TJ Hawkinson and would you start. No, not Loveland. But who, who might you start over Hawkinson if you were concerned about it?
Dave
I think the closest calls are going to be Joanne Johnson and Harold Fannin. Brenton Strange could be thrown in that mix. Obviously that's what you meant when you said streamers. For now, I do have Hawkinson ranked ahead of the three of those guys.
Adam
And, and Henry too.
Dave
And Hunter. Henry too. Yep.
Adam
So starting Hawkinson, give him another shot.
Dave
I mean, I just, I feel like it's the safe play. How many times in our lives have we seen a player do well in week one and then come back in week two and, and not play great? I think it's a lot tougher in full ppr.
Adam
It's the game of the week. Yeah. Sunday night, Falcons and Vikings.
Jamie
Sit down.
Adam
It's not really the greatest game of the week, but I forgot about the Chiefs and the Eagles. Hey, I had nothing today. Nothing. I completely forgot about it. I know you never believe me when I say I completely forgot about it, but it's the J of the week. Yeah. Jamie's here. What's up, Jamie?
Jamie
What's up, guys?
Adam
Just horrible game of the week. I needed. Jamie's my partner in crime. We would have come up with A clever way to talk about the Eagles Chiefs game, but he wasn't here, so I got desperate and I went with Falcons Vikings. It's a really bad call. I just think it could be a good game. But I'm sorry.
Dave
Do you get a Mulligan here?
Adam
I don't know.
Dave
One Mulligan for the year. On game of the week.
Adam
I just. It's. I think it's. I think it's past. I think it's past this moment for. For this week.
Dave
Okay. I would. I would not have picked this game, but who knows? We'll see. Maybe you're right.
Adam
Jamie, any thoughts? We're pretty much done with this game, but. So Drake London and Justin Jefferson are easy starts if Darnel Mooney plays. Jamie, he's 78 rostered. If he plays. Are you starting Darnell Mooney against the team that gave up the most fantasy points, the wide receivers last year, but was pretty good against. I mean, I think that was more Caleb than them, but good against them last week.
Jamie
He'D be a low end number three receiver, you know, so three receivers in a flex, he'd be in that conversation. Two receiver leagues, no chance. But, you know, it's good that he's back. Hopefully it's. He's 100 healthy.
Adam
Here's a question from Frank in the chat. How would you rank devonte Smith over the receivers in this game with Goddard hurt? Not gonna start. You're not gonna start him over Jefferson in London?
Dave
No chance. But over Mooney and everybody else on Minnesota.
Adam
So I think a better question is how would you rank devonte Smith over the Bears receivers from.
Dave
Absolutely.
Adam
Regardless of Goddard.
Dave
Yeah. When Goddard was out last year, there were eight games where Goddard was either out or he played 5% of the snaps. Devonte Smith averaged over 17 PPR points per game.
Adam
No, I get that. But if Goddard plays, would you start Devontae Smith?
Dave
No.
Adam
That changes it over the Bears receivers.
Dave
I'm not expecting that as of now.
Adam
Okay. Look at this. Jamie. Jamie and Adam ready for their Star Trek auditions. I'm. I'm wearing the bad shirt with the red one.
Jamie
You're in trouble, buddy.
Adam
Yeah. All right. Is there anything else from this game? Let's see. What's Jamie's take with of streaming tight ends versus TJ Hawkinson because Dave is not. Not putting the waiver wire tie head ends ahead of Hawk.
Jamie
I would start all of them over Hawkinson. So we're talking about Joanne Johnson and Strange and Hunter Henry and Shannon. All of them over Hawkinson this week. Hawkinson he scored a touchdown in the playoffs, but I think it's now nine games in a row. He didn't score a touchdown going back to last season. So a little bit concerned just about the volume. You talked about this, that how much are they going to put on J.J. mcCarthy in this matchup? And for what it's worth, they held K DOT without catch last week. The Falcons.
Adam
All right, I've got to talk about Jordan Mason versus Aaron Jones. Who do you guys, who do you guys prefer?
Jamie
Jones and PPR slightly. Mason in the other two formats.
Dave
Yep.
Adam
Yeah. So Jones had three catches, Mason had one. But if you look at the routes Jones had, Jones did run more routes, but not. It wasn't like he was the only guy. Right. So Mason ran seven routes, Jones ran 12 again, only 20 pass attempts. Both running backs played six snaps on third down. So I just don't want people to have the impression that like Aaron Jones is, is the third down back and the only guy that's going to catch any passes for them. He did week one. We'll see how that works out going forward. Would you start Zach Charbonnet or a Vikings running back?
Dave
Charbonnet.
Jamie
Charbonnet. Yeah. No. Yeah.
Adam
Let's do this question as if Darnell Mooney were not playing. Kyle Pitts or TJ Hawkinson with Mooney were out.
Dave
Pits.
Adam
Kyle Pitts or Harold Fannon? If Mooney were out.
Dave
Fit, I think I'd say pits.
Jamie
Yeah.
Adam
McCarthy or Lawrence. Four point per passing touchdown.
Jamie
Still Trevor McCarthy.
Adam
Okay. Not a lot of guys are not seeing eye to eye. Vikings.
Jamie
I'm very curious to see what the Vikings game plan is because it felt like, okay, it's McCarthy's first game and let's just kind of get through the start of this, make him feel comfortable. Let's wait to see Caleb make some mistakes, let our defense kind of control the game a little bit. And then it was as he started, it was. Once he had that throw to Jefferson, he looked like a different guy. And what does Kevin o' Connell put on his plate this week? So there's going to be more. It's just a matter of how much more. Like how much more of it is going to be a little bit more free, a little bit more open. Maybe use his legs a little bit too after what he did at the end of the game. So it's. You shouldn't be starting McCarthy in any one quarterback leagues. But if he has another strong performance like what we saw at the end of the game, like we're talking about Mustard. Quarterback wrestling.
Adam
Would you start a Vikings running back or a Bears wide receiver?
Jamie
Easily.
Adam
Would you start a Vikings running back or Zay Flowers.
Jamie
Flowers and ppr, Mason and none.
Dave
I would take flowers everywhere.
Adam
Oh, last question here from Frank again. Mason or Samson, half ppr.
Jamie
Samson.
Dave
I like it better if Quinshon Judkins is inactive. Okay, but what if Judkins ends up taking a little bit of work away from Samson? Are we sure that Samson's gonna have eight targets? Again? I'm. I would lean Sampson if it's Fuller half ppr, but I think it's kind of close.
Jamie
I think if Judkins plays, he's taking Ford's touches.
Adam
That's like three touches exactly. Oh, all right.
Dave
Should still lead the team in touches, but it might not be even as much as last week.
Adam
I mean, Mason just had 15 carries.
Dave
You know, and they're playing Baltimore.
Adam
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Learn more@WhatsApp.com all right, we're back. Rams are at the Titans. Stat of the game number one, Evan Ingram played only 34%. Oh, why is this in this game, he is not on the Rams or the Titans. Why is. Why am I. Why in the world? Stat of the game number One should be Denver pressured Cam Ward. That's what it was I, I copied and pasted for because Tennessee played Denver last week, but Denver pressured cam Ward on 51.4% of his drop backs. That was really, that was, I think, the most in. In week one. The Rams were seventh in pressure rate against Houston. Houston has a bad line, but I guess my point is, could be another game of a lot of pressure against Cam Ward, and somehow Evan Ingram is intertwined in that as well. Okay.
Dave
How do we all make mistakes? Adam, thank you.
Adam
Thank you. How do we feel about this game in terms of. Are you excited to start? Anyone other than Pukinakua excited?
Jamie
I'm content to start Kyron Williams and Devonte Adams. To answer your question.
Dave
Yeah, I will reluctantly start Tony Pollard unless I'm totally loaded at running back. And I would excited about the Rams dst.
Adam
I would sit here and question why you're not more excited about Pollard. Is it just the matchup because this guy had 19 touches in week one?
Dave
No, the touches are great and the opportunity should be good. I don't know if he's gonna necessarily be a big factor in the passing game. He wasn't last week. He had, what, just the one catch, I believe. And so I'm, I, I would just. I, I think he can be okay on. On good volume. He feels like the kind of type of player that's going to need a touchdown in order to come through with, like, anywhere close to 15 PPR points.
Adam
How about Tony Pollard versus Jordan Mason and Aaron Jones?
Dave
Better, right? I have higher expectations for Pollard.
Adam
It's kind of a shame. He's really gotten a lot of difficult matchups when he's been the featured guy last year and this year and this could be another one. But, I mean, the Rams had a bad run defense last year, but as I mentioned, everything got so much better for them late in the year. And then they start the season, I mean, Nick Chubb at 13 carries for 60 yards, but they didn't really. The Texans didn't have a run game going against. Against the Rams. Devonte Adams, as I mentioned, was shadowed by Derek Stingley. So you guys are going to go and start him? Tony Pollard or Calvin Ridley?
Dave
I like Ridley better.
Jamie
Yeah. Really still in the featured person on who to sit.
Adam
Oh, so you like Pollard better?
Jamie
Yeah.
Adam
All right, tell me. Let's talk about that. Jamie, He's. Yeah. You don't even have him in your top 40. Just outside the top 40. Why are we sitting him?
Jamie
Ridley?
Adam
Yeah.
Jamie
Oh, I need to See something from him first. I mean, the drops were bad. You know, I think Ward's still going to be in trouble. The secondary is very good for the Rams, so I'm not. I mean, I mean, they just shut down Nico Collins, you know, so it's not like Ridley's somebody that I'm going to have a lot of faith in. You know, he's in that number three receiver conversation. But if you can set him, set him.
Adam
Kyron Williams is top 12. Going to start him. Stafford. Stafford had a pretty Damn good game. 21 of 29, 245 yards and a touchdown. He only scored 15.6 fantasy points, but that's pretty damn good, especially against Houston, so. And does anybody have any interest in streaming Stafford?
Dave
No, I don't think you have to.
Adam
Yeah.
Dave
Two QB leagues. You could definitely start him. He was getting the ball out fast against Houston to try and negate that pass rush. If that's the plan and they continue to do that, then I think you'll still see him have games like what he had in Week one.
Adam
That's it, right? Start the Rams dst. That's it for this game. Yeah. I'm finished with this game. San Francisco's. Wait, hold on. Let me see if we have any chat comments. Okay, we do. We do. Pollard or Hampton?
Dave
Hampton.
Jamie
Hampton.
Adam
Will Taje Spears take carries from Pollard when he's back?
Jamie
I would hope so.
Adam
That was the plan going in. Pollard or Javante?
Jamie
I'll take Javante.
Dave
I have Pollard a little bit higher.
Adam
Ridley or Hollywood Brown?
Jamie
Hollywood.
Dave
Yeah, I'll take Hollywood.
Adam
I have this exact decision to make in one of my leagues. Pollard or Harvey Half ppr.
Dave
Hold on. What do you do if Worthy ends up playing.
Jamie
Still Hollywood? I would go Pollard.
Dave
Pollard or who?
Adam
Harvey Half ppr.
Dave
Pollard.
Adam
That's what I'm doing. Ridley or Judy?
Jamie
Judy.
Dave
Ridley.
Adam
Keenan Allen. Ridley or Judy.
Jamie
Judy.
Dave
Ridley.
Adam
Pollard or Swift?
Jamie
Swift.
Dave
I'll take Swift as well.
Adam
Pretty similar. Pollard or etn.
Jamie
Etn.
Adam
Yeah, etn. Okay, now we'll move on. San Francisco is at New Orleans. Stat of the game, Evan Ingram. Now. Stat of the game. Alvin Camara's 5.6% target per out run rate was the third lowest of his career. What? That's crazy. Okay, Is this game super easy, Jamie?
Jamie
I don't think it's super easy with Mac Jones starting. You know, there's going to be some questions on can you trust Ricky Pearsall and what happens if Juwan Jennings plays? You're clearly starting Christian McCaffrey. You know, I guess it's kind of like your Rams question, like, who are you confidently starting? So it's McCaffrey. I would still confidently start Ricky Pearsall because I think Mac Jones at least showed me last year and Kyle Shanahan has showed me enough that whatever quarterback steps into the system has a chance to play well to whatever degree you consider well. But I think we saw last year with what Josh Dobbs did when there was no Brock Purdy and he's not a very good thrower, that Mac Jones can at least be competent. And Jones got the memo in Jacksonville to just throw it to his best receiver over and over and over again. And it worked out really well for Brian Thomas Jr. So to me, Pierce hall is, is a very solid number two wide receiver. I would start him over almost everybody that we've talked about so far in the Ridley questions. And so in that regard, yes, for the Saints, you're starting Camara, but I don't know how many people like feel great about it after what we saw last week. But you drafted him to be a starter, so you're starting. And then I think Olave is in that number three receiver conversation based on his his targets and Juwan Johnson's a streaming tenant.
Adam
Yeah, this is an actually not an easy game. There are a lot of difficult calls here. If Juan Jennings plays, where would you guys rank him?
Jamie
Right now I have darn on Mooney.
Dave
Right. I'd have him even lower. I wouldn't want to start him. Maybe like a flex and three receiver PPR leagues.
Adam
I dropped Spencer Rattler in our super flex league and I'm curious to see if anyone picks him up.
Dave
Drop them, huh? Okay.
Adam
I had five quarterbacks. I really needed the roster, so I tried to trade them. Nobody wanted to make a trade.
Jamie
Yeah, I, I heard one of your.
Adam
Trade offers, what was it?
Jamie
Christian Kirk.
Adam
Yeah, I thought that was a fair trade. Spencer Rattler for Christian Kirk. I couldn't even get that.
Jamie
Yeah, all I replied was Azer.
Adam
Oh, you're the reason why he didn't accept that.
Jamie
No, he just said who? He asked in a group chat that I'm in. Who would you guys rather have in a super flex league? Spencer Rattler, Christian Kirk. And all I said was Azer. That's all I said. I didn't say yes, no anything. I just said Azer.
Adam
I thought it was a fair trade.
Dave
I agree. In a super flex league, that's totally fine.
Jamie
I have an offer standing right now in a dynasty league, the Super Flex league of a third round Pick next year for Spencer Rattler, which I'm going to accept.
Adam
You're going to take the third round pick?
Jamie
Yeah.
Adam
I gotta be honest, I thought you.
Dave
Were trying to get a second. Just gonna.
Jamie
So I don't think I will.
Dave
And it's.
Jamie
You know, the. The gamble is he stinks this week and he's benched, and I don't get anything for him.
Adam
Yeah, but he wasn't. He did certainly did not stink last week. He.
Dave
No, he was fine.
Jamie
The reason why I would hold out for this is this is the first quarterback injury that we have.
Adam
Yeah.
Jamie
And bye weeks haven't started yet. So do I risk maybe getting more for him?
Dave
Yeah, he might be benched by the time.
Jamie
And that's the point. It's the gamble of what? What's it worth? Every dynasty trade chart that I've checked, the third round pick is worth more.
Adam
Okay. All right. So back to this game here. Let's just get this out of the way. You're not starting Jake Tonjas, are you?
Dave
No.
Jamie
Tight end. Premium. Only if you're desperate.
Adam
Okay. Camara or Tony?
Jamie
By the way, Tucker Kraft in the fishbowl was just shy of 50 points.
Adam
The fishbowl is insane. The scoring is insane. Alvin Camara or Tony Pollard?
Dave
Camara.
Jamie
Camara.
Adam
Okay. Alvin Camara or Ricky Pierce?
Dave
All Camara.
Jamie
I'll go up your song.
Adam
Alvin Camara or George Pickens? Okay. Chris Olave or George Pickens?
Jamie
Pickens.
Dave
I'll take Pickens.
Adam
Olave. Is he in your top 30?
Dave
No, he is just outside. Pearsall is in. Olave is out, but just outside.
Adam
Okay. And Pearsall is top 20 for Jamie. He's like 20th for Jamie. 30th for Dave, 22nd for Heath. That's Ricky Pearsall. I know we're gonna get a lot of Ricky Pierce. All questions? Let's see if we have any in the chat. Give me some tight ends. You would start Juwan Johnson over? I would start Juwan Johnson over. These guys.
Jamie
Mark Andrews and T.J. hawkinson.
Dave
Andrews. Najoku. Both Browns tight ends, actually. Brenton Strange. Kyle Pitts as of now. Jake Ferguson as of now. Dalton Kincaid.
Adam
All right, let's use the chat to help us out here. Chris Olave or Keon Coleman?
Dave
Olave.
Jamie
Olave.
Adam
Ricky Pearsall or George Pickens?
Jamie
Pierce.
Dave
I'll take Pickens.
Adam
Ricky Pearsall or Devonte Smith?
Jamie
Smith. If Goddard's up.
Dave
Especially if Goddard's out.
Adam
Mac Jones or Bo Nix, Go with Nicks.
Dave
I'll take Bo.
Adam
I got a Stat about Evan Ingram, by the way. For you. San Francisco or the Cardinals? DST Niners or Cardinals?
Jamie
San Fran's my number one defense this week.
Dave
Oh, I have the Cardinals higher.
Adam
We've got Piersall or Javante Williams in non ppr.
Dave
Javante Piersol or Javante Williams in non ppr. I I'd rather have the upside of Pearsall.
Adam
How about Pearsall or Teterom McMillan? Here's a Shaheed question. I haven't talked about him, Shahid or Hawkinson as a flex cheat.
Dave
I agree.
Adam
Is Jennings droppable with Purdy out?
Jamie
I wouldn't do that yet.
Dave
If it's a small league you could get away with that.
Adam
Chuba Hubbard, Travis ETN or Alvin Camara?
Jamie
How do you have this choice? I would go in that order.
Adam
Hubbard, etn, Camara. Okay.
Dave
Yeah.
Adam
All right, so let's Camara is a start, but he's not like a slam dunk start. He's basically ranked kind of where he was drafted. 18 ish. Somewhere around.
Jamie
Not on our site.
Adam
He's kind of where he was ranked. Pardon me. Preseason, I mean. Giants are at the Cowboys Domination of the game. The Cowboys have won eight in a row and 15 of the last 16. Dak Prescott lost the first two games of his career to the Giants and He has won 13 straight since. He has a 102.4 passer rating in his career against the Giants. However, that doesn't necessarily mean he's been great for fantasy. Sometimes he has, sometimes he has not. It's been mixed results because they win so much and a lot of the times it's not enough of the time. It's totally lopsided. You do get some disappointing fantasy games from Dak Prescott. How do you guys feel, Dave, about starting Dak Prescott?
Dave
I think he's okay to start. There are a lot of quarterbacks that I just like better. I'm nervous about him having a huge game against the Giants in part because I don't know the Giants can keep up on the scoreboard. So I would take the chance on Baker. I would take the chance on Trevor Lawrence, definitely Mahomes. And I would. I would give it a shot to JJ McCarthy as well. I think he's got a little more upside in his matchup. Dak can be fine. Last week he was trailing. He threw the ball a lot. It was against a tough defense, there's no doubt about it. But the Giants are going to get after him too. And he had single digit fantasy points. So I'm a little Nervous about Dak coming through with 23 plus, let's say, so 20 to 22 point range. It's kind of what I projected for him last week and he ended up disappointing, but that's what I'd project him for this week.
Adam
How you feeling, Jamie?
Jamie
I thought Dak played really well last week. He just did not get the fantasy production. And I think based on everything that's happening around the Cowboys right now, they need some sort of statement to make themselves feel good and make their fan base feel good. And the best way for them to do that is for the offense to come out and put on a show. And so Dak, I think, has a chance to have a really big game here. So He's a top 12 quarterback. He's the number one guy this week. I do think we're going to get some big play potential for CD Lamb after the drops. I think based on the Micah McFadden injury, we're going to see Jake Ferguson have a nice game as well. And so just looking at the situation, while Javante Williams did have two touchdowns last week and I do think he's worth starting because they just allowed, what was it, 8.2 yards per carry to Jacori Crosky Merritt and a touchdown to him. So Williams, I think is a good number two running back, but I don't think he's the catalyst of this office. I think this is a Dax show and sort of a statement game for this Cowboys offense.
Dave
What did Daniels have passing last week against the Giants?
Adam
He had, I don't know, 21 fantasy points. Oh, actually I can tell you. Right, right.
Dave
But he had like 68 yards rushing.
Adam
He had Jaden Daniels 233 against the.
Dave
Giants and one passing touchdown. And he threw the ball how many times?
Adam
30.
Dave
Okay. I think that that's the floor for Dak and I don't know how much of a ceiling there is on top of that. I guess one more touchdown and if he has one more touchdown, then that would be 21 fantasy points, would it not?
Adam
And you guys like Javante better than Tracy?
Dave
Yes.
Adam
Yes. So just to get this out of the way, if you want 10ish PPR fantasy points, look at Wanda Robinson. Right. Need a desperation neighbors. We're going to start. Wilson, we're not going to start. Yeah. Javante. I'm sure we have some Javante questions in the crowd, but let's see, I have a lot of questions for this game. Javante or Travion Henderson? Ppr.
Jamie
Javante.
Dave
I'll take Travion he's playing Miami.
Adam
Can you rank Dak Prescott, Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence?
Jamie
Fields, Dak.
Dave
Trevor Fields. Trevor Dak.
Adam
Dak or McCarthy.
Dave
Deck McCarthy.
Adam
All right. You guys are hopeful for a nice game from George pickens, right? Top 30 guy.
Dave
Certainly more target right around there.
Jamie
He's outside the top 30 right around there.
Adam
I think last I saw you, I'm 31st. Let's see, 31st. 31st for you, 26 for Dave, 35th for. For Heath. But that doesn't mean he's a sit necessarily. It's a lot of good. Yeah.
Dave
Number three receiver.
Adam
Okay. I mean it's just.
Dave
And Lamb's my number one receiver of the week. I agree with Jamie that he could just absolutely have one of those 10 catch 120 yard one touchdown games.
Adam
The Giants really look, look a mess they allowed. If you for Pickens, you want a team that's going to give up big plays. Can't. I don't know that they will like they should have a better secondary than. I mean the Giants should have a decent secondary but they didn't in week one. They allowed two completions of 20 or more air yards and they should have had that 71 yard touchdown to Terry McLaurin. So you know, we might be thinking about Pickens differently. We might be thinking about Dak differently if that pass is completed. And we had seen the Giants give up huge fantasy production but. But we didn't. And pickens obviously only four targets whereas Lamb had 13 targets last week. And Jake Ferguson, where's. Where's he in the rankings top 10? Holy moly. Really? Okay.
Jamie
I mean he had five catches last week. It's not like he wasn't involved.
Adam
7Th for you and 15th for Dave and 13th for Heath. An aggressive Jake Ferguson ranking. All right, Cowboys. DST is worth starting as well. Go back to the chat here and see any more questions. Javante or Hampton?
Dave
Hampton.
Adam
Javante, Kyler or Fields? Oh, that's a different game but we'll answer it anyway. Kyler or Fields? Justin Fields, Tillman or Pickens?
Jamie
Pickens.
Dave
I believe I've double checking to make sure that I have pick and tire. I do.
Adam
Pickens or Ken Walker? Ppr.
Dave
Pickens.
Adam
Pickens or a Buka half ppr.
Dave
I'll go Buka A Booker.
Adam
Tracy or Sorry, Tracy Pickens. Ricky Pearsall or Travion Henderson? Ppr.
Jamie
I'll take Pearsall.
Dave
I have Pickens.
Adam
Ferguson or Fannin?
Dave
I'll take Fanon.
Adam
All right, let's go to Seattle and Pittsburgh in week one, Seattle had the ball for 22 minutes. They ran only 50 plays. So for whatever reason, Seattle always seems to run very few plays. Doesn't matter the coaching staff, but hopefully that changes this week. Sit, Sam Darnold. When you look at Charbonnet versus Walker, Dave said Charbonnet is his favorite running back in this game. Jamie, I'll ask you that too. Who's your favorite running back in this game?
Jamie
I like Jalen Warren a lot, so he's my favorite by significant margin.
Adam
Why do you like him so much?
Jamie
I think what we saw from the Seahawks last week in struggling against Christian McCaffrey now a different animal, but a pass catching running back. I think Warren and actually would not be surprised if Kenneth Gainwell has an opportunity here to be a surprise player. So I think we'll see Warren in the passing game make some plays.
Adam
That's interesting. Okay, so they actually did very well against the run. Against Christian McCaffrey, 22 carries for 69 yards. He had nine catches for 73 yards. So who did we just talk about? Like Javante Williams, Tyrone Tracy versus Jalen Warren. Who do you like?
Jamie
Warren?
Adam
Overall, those guys, Dave, Javante Williams, Tyrone Tracy versus the running backs in this game. Who do you like?
Dave
Javante Warren. Let's go. Charbonnet, Javante Warren and Walker after that, all in the like low end number two running back range.
Jamie
Unless you said it on Sunday. Jalen Warren broke his streak.
Adam
Caught a touchdown touchdown of his career. Yeah. Wild. Anybody starting Aaron Rodgers this week? Two QB leaks, Superflex, JSN and DK Metcalf are easy starts.
Dave
Yep.
Adam
What are you guys doing with Cooper? Cup.
Jamie
Probably gonna get cut if he has another bad game like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dave
Can't start it with any confidence.
Adam
Yeah, no, you can't. If you want to have hope, the hope would be again, they ran 50 plays, barely had the ball through 23 passes. So if this game gets kind of, kind of fun like the Jets Steelers game last week, you'll get more pass attempts. But Jackson, Smith and Jigba led all wide receivers in target share last week at 59%. There wasn't much for Cup.
Jamie
I would, I would guess this is a bounce back game for the Steelers defense.
Adam
How do you feel about Calvin Austin and Johnny Smith?
Jamie
They're stash candidates. I mean, I think if you lost Kittle, you know, Smith was in that group of guys to pick up. The positive was six targets and five catches and a design play at the goal line. The negative was 15 receiving yards.
Adam
For, for who For Johnny, the negative was 15 receiving. Oh, in my head I'm thinking who had negative 15 receiving?
Jamie
The negative for John New Smith was that he only had 15 receiving yards. The positive was that he had six targets and five catches and scored a touchdown. I think for Calvin Austin, he's just somebody that in deeper leagues you'd want to see what happens. Like, you know, we've been talking about Josh Palmer and what he could have done and, you know, just his involvement for the Bills. Like these type of guys are not going to be started anytime soon, but they continue to be productive and have opportunities, then you'll be excited about them.
Adam
I hear some questions on this game. Dobbins or Ken Walker? Ppr.
Jamie
I'll take Dobbins.
Dave
I have to double check my ranking. Sorry about that. That's okay. I have Walker barely ahead of Dobbins.
Adam
And where are they in the rankings?
Jamie
Well, this is like 27th and Walker's in the 30s.
Dave
Yeah.
Adam
Ken Walker or Trey Benson?
Jamie
Walker.
Adam
DK Metcalf or Mike Evans?
Jamie
Evans. As of now.
Adam
What would change? Just thinking about it. There's not like an injury that that's.
Jamie
Contingent on no Stingley.
Adam
I think he's going to shadow him. I'm.
Jamie
Yeah. I mean, the more you say it, the more it makes me nervous.
Adam
Yeah. I mean, it's based only on one game, but it makes sense.
Dave
And Seattle's shaking up their cornerback group and I think that'll actually benefit DK quite a bit.
Adam
Jalen Warren or Teterella McMillan. PPR.
Jamie
I go tat. Excuse melon.
Adam
And this will be the last one. Is Kenneth Walker cooked or what?
Jamie
I hope not. But it did not look good in week one based on the usage and everything that we started. Started to hear toward the end of training camp.
Adam
Yeah, it could be tough. All right. Carolina said Arizona. Oh, start the Steelers. Dst Carolina's at Arizona. Week one overreaction. Stat of the game. Kyler Murray had seven carries in week one. This is what he has averaged carries per game in his healthy games the previous three seasons. 6.6, 5.5, 4.6. So he had seven carries in week one. And they said that that was intentional, that Kyler Murray is going to run more this year. Remember, we heard that in the preseason and you might expect that from Kyler, which is good for Kyler, not necessarily good for the other players. He also reaction that just assuming based on one game that he's gonna run more, I guess, but they said that.
Jamie
Though, so I don't think it's no Reaction.
Adam
All right, seven would be kind of a lot, but look, it's okay. Smile. The overreaction stat of the game. He also, by the way, had the fifth lowest a dot in the NFL in week one and the fourth highest off target rate. And that is a really bad combination. All right. For Arizona. I feel like Arizona every week is going to be start Chuba hubbard, start Tetero McMillan. Basically right. I mean, sorry for Carolina. Carolina, Dave?
Dave
Yeah, pretty much. Chuba's the number two running back. McMillan is going to be in that number two high and number three wide receiver range.
Adam
Okay. McMillan was very close to having a long touchdown a half a second away, potentially. Kyler Murray. Bryce Young got smashed as he threw the ball and didn't get the ball to McMillan and Kyler. You guys are very different on this. So Dave, you talked about him earlier. You don't love him. You have him 13th. Jamie of him 6th. Talk about your ranking of Kyler.
Jamie
I think Kyler's gonna be one of the best quarterbacks this week. You know, just based on Carolina's defense and how he's now running again. Yeah, I don't worry about this matchup at all for him. Trevor missed some throws that would have had, I think, a different opinion maybe of him mostly. But this defense isn't one to fear and I think Kyler's gonna end up being one of the nicer surprise for fantasy managers all season and just an easy start for me this week.
Dave
I think the matchup is favorable for him, but I think it's also favorable for the run game. And so I'm just not sure how much work Kyler is going to have to actually end up doing. And Kyler missed some throws last week himself, so I'm a little nervous about him. But he's one of the quarterbacks that I couldn't put into my top 12. But I would still say is a decent start this week. I'd still use them over guys like Drake May. Plenty of other streamers. Caleb Williams, there's no chance you're going to start him over Kyler Murray, but for me, he's behind J.J. mcCarthy. I think there's more upside with McCarthy.
Jamie
I'd start Murray very easily over Patrick Mahomes this week.
Dave
Yeah, I'm not there.
Jamie
And Baker?
Dave
Nope, can't do that either.
Adam
Okay. I like it. Who's the best wide receiver in this game?
Jamie
Marvin.
Dave
Marvin is the best wide receiver.
Adam
Who's the best running back in this game?
Dave
Connor.
Adam
So last week, obviously the. This is just something to watch. The Jaguars wide receivers were horrible against Carolina. Brian Thomas, one catch for 11 yards on seven targets. Travis Hunter, six for 33 on eight targets. And last year, J.C. horn, the best corner for the Panthers, he missed the last two games of the season. In those two games, Mike Evans, Jalen McMillan and Drake London combined for something like 85 fantasy points. Before that, before those two games, the Panthers were actually. They were like 11th best against wide receivers. I think a lot of that was their run defense was so bad that teams just didn't throw on them. But I just thought that was interesting. I'm not really like, I'm definitely starting Marvin Harrison Jr. But I just thought that was interesting. We'll see how it plays out because they did a good job against the Jaguars guys in week one and they really weren't bad when Horn was healthy last year. But Harrison's coming off an encouraging game. Granted, only six targets in that game. Trey McBride are going to start. And the Cardinals DST, they were horrible against. Not horrible, but they were not good against the Saints. So why should I have faith against them this week?
Jamie
They're a good low end starter. I mean, you know, it's not like the Panthers were good against the Jaguars either. Offensively.
Adam
Yeah, they were not. They were sloppy. All right, let's read some questions for this one here. What can we do to get Trey McBride a touchdown?
Jamie
Frustrating.
Adam
Yeah, they try. I think they ran a screen for him inside the 10 yard line. It just didn't get to the end zone. Tedro McMillan or a Mecca Abuka?
Dave
I believe I have Ted or higher.
Adam
Would you trade Pacheco for Trey Benson?
Dave
I'm not there yet.
Adam
Gosh, did that just make me sad? Chuba Hubbard or Cortland Sutton? Ppr. Ooh, tough one.
Jamie
How can you not play both? I'll go sudden.
Dave
Sutton or who?
Adam
Hubbard.
Dave
I go son.
Adam
Tedro McMillan or Jerry? Judy McMillan, Connor or Samson? I didn't even really talk about Connor because he's a clear start. Connor over Dylan Sampson, Teteroa McMillan, Garrett Wilson or a Mecca Abuka half PPR.
Jamie
Garrett Wilson.
Adam
Teteroa or Piersol Pierce. And that will do.
Dave
I'll take McMillan.
Adam
Oh, you're taking Melon? Okay, that'll do it for fantasy football today. Okay. How you guys? You guys looking forward to the weekend?
Jamie
Looking for the mailbag. What time's that?
Adam
I think it's at noon, but I have a exterminator coming, so I might have to push it to like 12:30, if that's okay.
Jamie
That's fine.
Adam
All right. We'll discuss. We'll discuss off the air. Today is, this weekend is community day in my town. So I'm gonna try to do some, some stuff for the community.
Jamie
So you hired an exterminator? That's your.
Adam
Yeah. I'm gonna kill all the, all the pests of the community for everyone. You're welcome, community. Anyway, do something nice for the community this weekend. Thank you to all of you for watching and listening. Have a wonderful weekend. Good luck in week two. We'll talk to you at the Mailbag Sunday morning for the YouTube show. Sunday night after the main slate of games. Wrap up during Sunday night Football and see you later. Bye. Paramount podcast. Popsicles, sprinklers, a cool breeze. Talk about refreshing. You know what else is refreshing this summer? A brand new phone with Verizon. Yep. Get a new phone on any plan with select phone. Trade in in MyPlan and lock down a low price for three years on any plan with MyPlan. This is a deal for everyone whether you're a new or existing customer. Swing by Verizon today for our best phone deals. 3 year price guarantee applies to then current base monthly rate only. Additional terms and conditions apply for all offers.
Episode: Start or Sit (NFC): Ricky Pearsall, Javonte Williams, Seahawks RBs and More
Date: September 12, 2025
Hosts: Adam Aizer, Dave Richard, Jamie Eisenberg (Heath Cummings off)
Theme: Deep Start/Sit analysis for NFC matchups and key fantasy storylines for Week 2, with a focus on actionable advice and player rankings.
The crew delivers start/sit analysis and insight for major NFC-centric matchups (plus a couple cross-conference tilts), focusing on emerging storylines like the fallout from Austin Ekeler’s injury, the rise of Tucker Kraft, questions surrounding key backfields, and sleeper pass catchers. The tone is lively, analytical, and sometimes teasing, with quotes capturing the banter and the depth of research each analyst brings.
Major injury highlights and usage notes affecting fantasy lineups:
Each matchup gets one pointed “start or sit” question. Key highlights:
HOT STARTS:
COLD/CAUTIOUS:
DEEP FLEX/STREAMER BUYS:
Frequent comparison questions and the crew’s takes on some tight ones:
Listen for: Quick reference one-question-per-matchup speed rounds (from 22:00 onward), consistent banter and humor (“Kraft yak and cheese”), and in-depth analysis on every notable NFC fantasy-relevant storyline for Week 2.