Trade Talk, TD Regression, Fantasy Feud, PIT-CLE Preview (11/20 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Fantasy Football Today – Episode: Trade Talk, TD Regression, Fantasy Feud, PIT-CLE Preview (Released: November 20, 2024)

Hosted by CBS Sports’ Adam Aizer, joined by analysts Dave Richard, Jamey Eisenberg, and Heath Cummings, this episode of Fantasy Football Today delves deep into the strategies and nuances essential for dominating your fantasy league. Covering trade evaluations, touchdown regression analysis, an engaging Fantasy Feud game among the hosts, and a preview of the pivotal Pittsburgh vs. Cleveland matchup, the episode is packed with actionable insights and lively discussions.

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1. Trade Talk: Buy Low, Sell High

The hosts kicked off the episode by emphasizing the critical importance of trade offers in fantasy leagues, especially as the season progresses toward the finish line.

• Buy Low Selections:

  • Bucky Irving: Jamie Eisenberg highlighted Bucky Irving as a prime buy-low candidate, praising his increased carries and targets due to Tampa Bay’s strategic adjustments. Jamie noted, “I think Bucky Irving can be half for cheap. I love the Bucks schedule the rest of the way.” ([04:54])

  • Rashad White: Though considered, Jamie suggested Bucky Irving has more upside, especially in non-PPR leagues. ([05:54])

  • Debo Samuel: Dave Richard identified Debo Samuel as a valuable buy-low option despite recent underperformance. He stated, “I think Debo Samuel is still a must-start wide receiver rest of season.” ([07:54])

• Sell High Recommendations:

  • Tyreek Hill: Jamey Eisenberg recommended selling Tyreek Hill since recent performances might have inflated his value. Jamey remarked, “If others in your league think that he's just starting to break out because he scored in consecutive weeks, take advantage and sell high on Tyreek Hill.” ([13:16])

  • Joe Mixon & Anthony Richardson: *Dave suggested trading Joe Mixon when he's peaking, while Heath Cummings advised flipping Anthony Richardson post a strong performance, anticipating a potential dip. Dave mentioned, “Joe Mixon has been incredible… He’s the number one running back per game.” ([15:07], [15:18])

2. Touchdown Regression Analysis

The segment focused on players who have been unlucky with touchdowns, potentially setting them up for a regression to the mean.

• Quarterbacks:

  • Brock Purdy: Adam Aizer discussed Purdy’s declining touchdown rates in the green zone, noting a drop from 75% as a rookie to 25% this year. Adam stated, “He’s been awful in the green zone. Basically, he’s completing only 46% of his passes.” ([08:04])

  • C.J. Stroud & Geno Smith: Highlighted for their low touchdown rates despite high green zone attempts. Adam observed, “C.J. Stroud is at 3.3%, last year it was 4.6%.” ([22:03])

• Receivers:

  • Devante Adams, George Pickens, Hunter Henry: Noted for their high target rates in the red zone but low touchdown outputs. Adam commented, “Devante Adams has seven targets inside the 10-yard line and one touchdown.” ([24:00])

• Running Backs:

  • Aaron Jones & Kyron Williams: Both have struggled with scoring touchdowns from inside the five-yard line. Heath mentioned, “They’re both in slumps. It’s going to be who snaps out of it first.” ([19:16])

3. Thursday Night Football Preview: Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Cleveland Browns

A comprehensive analysis of the upcoming PIT-CLE game, focusing on potential in-game strategies and key player performances.

• Weather Concerns:

  Jamie Eisenberg highlighted potential adverse weather conditions, including heavy rain and strong winds, which could impact quarterback and wide receiver performances. Jamie warned, “If there is serious wind, I don’t know how you can feel good about starting any quarterback in this game.” ([27:07])

• Player Matchups:

  • Jameis Winston: Adam noted, “He’s a bye week quarterback at best” due to Pittsburgh’s improved defense.

  • George Pickens & Najee Harris: Recommended as must-start players due to favorable matchups. Dave stated, “I’ve got Naji at 21…” ([30:31])

• Defensive Strategies:

  Heath Cummings discussed the Steelers’ defensive prowess, particularly against the run, making Najee Harris a favorable start. Heath affirmed, “He’s having a good season and I think they’re going to win this game easily.” ([30:46])

4. Fantasy Feud: Host Showdown

A spirited segment where the hosts competed in a Family Feud-style game, answering fantasy-related questions.

• Round Highlights:

  • Leaders in Rushing Touchdowns: Jamie Eisenberg led Heath Cummings by correctly identifying key players like Derek Henry and Joe Mixon. Adam quipped, “James Cook has 10 rushing touchdowns. Pathetic.” ([43:05])

  • Leaders in Passing Yards per Attempt: Heath and Jamie engaged in a challenging round, ultimately identifying Jared Goff and Lamar Jackson among others. Dave attempted several guesses, ultimately learning the top list included Sam Darnold. ([45:10])

  • Leaders in Catches and Receptions: Jamie triumphed by correctly listing top receivers like Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. ([48:45])

5. Grading Listener Trades

The hosts evaluated listener-submitted trades, providing feedback based on player performance and strategic value.

• Notable Trades:

  • Josh Jacobs & Tyreek Hill for George Pickens & James Cook: Heath Cummings graded this trade as a 'B', noting that Pickens and Cook are slight upgrades. Heath commented, “We like Pickens better than Hill, right?” ([51:46])

  • Aaron Rodgers & DK Metcalf for Brian Robinson Jr.: Jamey critiqued, “I don’t like that trade,” highlighting potential mismatches in value exchange. Dave rated it a 'C'. ([55:25])

  • Jaden Reed, DK Metcalf, Isaiah Pacheco, Tyrone Tracy for Amon-Ra St. Brown & Juwan Jennings: Jamey and Dave expressed concerns, mentioning the inadequacy of returns for multiple assets traded away. ([53:55])

• Successful Trade Evaluations:

  • Trades that involved upgrading positions without significant losses were praised. For instance, trading away James Conner for George Pickens was deemed beneficial. Adam affirmed, “We like Cook better than Jacobs. Good job.” ([51:46])

6. Additional Insights and Website Resources

Adam Aizer directed listeners to the CBS Sports Fantasy website for comprehensive resources, including DFS content, trade charts, waiver wire advice, and position previews. He also promoted BetMGM with a special bonus code for new users. Adam encouraged, “Read the stuff from Dave, Jamie, and Heath. It’s outstanding.” ([06:00])

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Conclusion:

This episode of Fantasy Football Today provided a thorough examination of strategic trades, highlighted players poised for touchdown regression, and offered an entertaining and competitive Fantasy Feud segment. The preview of the Steelers versus Browns game equipped listeners with valuable insights for their starting lineups. Additionally, the grading of listener trades offered personalized feedback to help improve team performance. Whether you’re a seasoned manager or new to fantasy football, this episode delivered both strategic depth and engaging content to enhance your league success.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jamey Eisenberg ([13:16]): “If others in your league think that he's just starting to break out because he scored in consecutive weeks, take advantage and sell high on Tyreek Hill.”

• Adam Aizer ([08:04]): “He’s been awful in the green zone. Basically, he’s completing only 46% of his passes.”

• Jamie Eisenberg ([20:36]): “I’m taking your temperature on these guys. I want to know where Mixon ranks compared to them.”

• Heath Cummings ([19:16]): “They’re both in slumps. It’s going to be who snaps out of it first.”

• Dave Richard ([15:07]): “Joe Mixon has been incredible… He’s the number one running back per game.”

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By thoughtfully analyzing player performance trends and providing actionable trade advice, Fantasy Football Today continues to be an indispensable resource for fantasy enthusiasts aiming to secure their league champion status.

Transcript

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[Dave]

This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports.

[Adam]

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[Dave]

It's time to dominate your fantasy league.

[Adam]

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[Dave]

Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.

[Adam]

There's still time to make trade offers in your leagues, and if there's not, well, at least we'll tell you some players that we think are going to have big finishes or maybe struggle toward the finish line. Welcome to fantasy football today, everybody. On this Wednesday. It is presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook. Born in Vegas. And the whole gang is here. Adam, Dave, Heath, and Jamie. And we'll be doing a little buy low, sell high. Also grading your trades. Talking about Thursday night's game, which should be kind of interesting. Pittsburgh and Cleveland, some difficult start or sit decisions. And are you guys ready to play the fantasy feud?

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

That's the game.

[Adam]

That's the game today.

[Jamie]

Okay.

[Adam]

How do you feel about.

[Jamie]

I'm excited. I'm ready.

[Adam]

I was so excited to play.

[Dave]

Who has more?

[Heath]

Nobody's ever excited for that.

[Adam]

Oh, come on. Who has more?

[Dave]

I had one for Adam. I thought I was going to get him.

[Adam]

Come on, bring it on.

[Dave]

Who has more fantasy points this season, Jaden Daniels or Bo Nicks?

[Jamie]

I don't think you're asking that question.

[Adam]

Unless the answer is bonus Jane Daniels. It's bonus Bo Nicks. How about that?

[Dave]

Two tenths of a point.

[Adam]

Wow.

[Dave]

So we could probably look at a different site and see that Daniels has more.

[Adam]

Probably. Probably. Okay. Obviously neck and neck. All right, let's get right to rookie of the year.

[Heath]

It's a good question right now.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

It is not the slam dunk that it once was.

[Heath]

No.

[Jamie]

And I think if Bo Nicks finishes strong, I think he's gonna get it.

[Dave]

I'm gonna check the odds. Jaden Daniels is still minus 525.

[Adam]

Whoa.

[Dave]

So what's Bo Nick's at plus 350.

[Heath]

That's a good wager right now.

[Dave]

Brock Bowers is plus 2000 if he breaks the catch record and one of those guys falls off.

[Jamie]

Did Puka win rookie of the year?

[Heath]

Probably.

[Dave]

Stroud, right?

[Jamie]

Yeah. That's why he's plus two.

[Heath]

But. But if Bo Nicks gets the playoffs and Jane Daniels doesn't.

[Jamie]

Oh, that's a wrap.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

And vice versa. If Jaden Daniels makes the playoffs and.

[Heath]

Bo Nicks doesn't, it's a fun finish.

[Adam]

All right, let's do some by lows. Dave, you don't have a lot today. That's fine. Let's narrow in on a couple that we really like who are some by lows.

[Jamie]

My. Yeah, I don't know why I did that. Bucky Irving is. It's the running back that I think is a good buy low. If I needed a running back desperately and I went to the waiver wire yesterday and Amir Abdullah was the best name there. I'm probably making a noise like the one I just made 30 seconds ago, but I think Bucky Irving can be half for cheap. I love the buck schedule the rest of the way. He actually has more carries than Rashad White in each of his past three games. He leads Tampa Bay in rush attempts in rush yards with rushing touchdowns. Only four fewer receptions than Rashad White in their past four games, 46 fewer receiving yards. So that might be the lone edge that White has over Bucky Irving. But my hunch is that Tampa Bay went into the bye week and said, how can this offense get better? And they said, give Mike Evans more targets and let's let Bucky Irving run a little bit more so cheap running back could have a strong finish. I. I like him as someone to go and buy low on.

[Heath]

Could you do the same with Rashad White, too?

[Jamie]

You could, but I think Bucky's got a little bit more upside, especially in those half and non PPR leagues.

[Adam]

They got the Giants, then they have their four of their last six games beginning this week. And the Giants aren't good are against teams that ranked 26th or worse against running backs, including two against Carolina, one against Dallas. These are two of the three worst teams against running backs. So we love the schedule. We've been loving the schedule for a while for Bucky Irving. Okay, Jamie, you're up.

[Heath]

Biloba Brian Thomas. But make sure it's a very cheap offer for someone who, who knows what the rest of season looks like with the quarterback situation. But I mean, you got to be happy with how he performed with Mac Jones in the last game and now they're down another receiver and Gabe Davis. And so unless they're going to shut him down too, which I would be surprised that's the case. For as cheap as you might be able to get him for the upside he still brings, I would try and make trades for him.

[Jamie]

Would you give up devonte Adams for.

[Heath]

It feels like that's a lateral move. So I probably would just keep Adam since he has a quarterback.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Jamie]

What about Ridley?

[Heath]

Same.

[Jamie]

Okay, you don't want to stay lateral, but I get it.

[Adam]

What'd you say, Heath?

[Dave]

I think I'd rather have Ridley.

[Heath]

Yeah, I mean it's just, it feels like you're trading to trade at that point, right?

[Adam]

Does this matter to you? You look at his schedule, Brian Thomas Jr. And there's a lot of red. You go to a guy's player page and the, the good matchups are green, the bad ones are red. So Houston is on, just on paper. Just on paper, Houston is good. That's his first matchup after the buy and then his next four are against teams that currently rank second, third, seventh and second against receivers. But probably when I tell you the teams you won't think, you won't buy it. Tennessee Jets. Raiders. Jets.

[Dave]

Well, is need gonna be there.

[Adam]

I don't know that he's ever playing again like he's out again this week.

[Heath]

But yeah, I, I, again I'll bring up what I said on, on the show yesterday like the, the type of player I think you can get Brian Thomas for is like someone's handcuff and something very cheap that you may not be using.

[Dave]

My buy low is Debo Samuel. It's been a, it's been a bad couple of weeks for Debo, but we had a three week stretch where he scored at least 12.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Basically averaged 12 PPR fantasy points without scoring a touchdown. The biggest problem for Debo Samuel is he has one receiving touchdown all season long. The rushing average hasn't been good either. He still has 20 point upside any given week. Other than this just absolutely awful game. Most recently he's scoring 11 to 12 most weeks without a touchdown, which is a starting wide receiver. People are panicking about Debo. They think that Juwan Jennings is the number one and when George Kittle comes back, it's going to be even worse. I think Debo Samuel is still a must start wide receiver rest of season.

[Adam]

Okay. And I, I have a segment today that I'd like to get to called Touchdown Regression. Looking at players who have been maybe a little bit unlucky with touchdowns. And Brock Purdy is like kind of. I don't know if he's screaming aggression, but his touchdown rate has been 7.6%, 7% and 4.2% this year which isn't all that bad but it's bad for him. But in the green zone inside the 10 yard line. Brock Purdy's touchdown rate in three seasons was 75% as a rookie, 44% last year and 25% this year. He's just been awful in the green zone. Basically. He's completing only 46% of his passes. He has the fifth most green zone pass attempts in the NFL. But I think he's only thrown like seven touchdowns from that distance. So that's, I'm hoping that he starts throwing some more touchdowns. He's been running for touchdowns, which hasn't been helping Debo Samuel, but there could be some more. You know, there were a lot of touchdowns last year for the 49ers passing game. They haven't really been so far this year.

[Jamie]

Are we sure that Debo's good? Like I mean healthy. When I say I know he's a good football player, are we sure that he's like, you know, he went through a lot of stuff and since he's come back, he has only one game with over. I think it might be 80 total yards.

[Adam]

Well, I, you know, I was watching, I watched his, you know, his routes from week 11 and I was like, man, he's not getting open at all. So I went to, I went to the ESPN analytics page that has the grades for everyone's open score. And Debo Samuel has the fourth worst open score among 121 wide receivers. But it's low every year. He'd never, for whatever reason, that metric I looked at the last four years he's been a great receiver in the NFL. Two of the last four years he's never had a high open score. So I don't know what to make of that.

[Dave]

Last week he played a season high 87% of the snaps.

[Adam]

Yeah, okay.

[Heath]

He on the team next year?

[Adam]

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[Jamie]

The sell high I have is Tyreek Hill. And like I said on our on our show on CBS Sports Network on Tuesday, you might feel like whiplash because we've talked about how Tyree Kill is a great buy low, buy low. And now, now that he's had a big game, I wonder if there's enough excitement about him in your league where someone might overpay. And I'm not saying get them off your team and all that stuff. This is of course, as we. We have to say this every time we mention a sell high, it means sell high. If you can turn Tyree Kill into something that is a top 7ish player at running back or wide receiver, I think you should do it. I don't like how he has. I think it's three games with eight plus targets since week one. I think he has. He just doesn't have good numbers. I'd have to go back and check my notes to see just how bad it is. But we know what the contingency downside is for him. He's got a wrist injury. We know what his numbers are like when there is no two on the field. And even when he's had two on the field and he's playing, the numbers haven't been awesome. He had a great catch against Las Vegas for a touchdown.

[Dave]

He.

[Jamie]

Oh, here's what it is. Adam. Since week one, you know what his longest reception has been for as gone for no. 30 yards. That's not, that's not the Tyree Kill that we know. So I, I think he got a downgrade expectations on him overall. But if others in your league think that he's just starting to break out because he scored in consecutive weeks, take advantage sell high on Tyree Kill.

[Adam]

Oh, would you rather have Tyree Kill or George Pickens?

[Jamie]

Pickens is higher in the trade chart. I would rather have Pickens.

[Adam]

Any other. Give me a few other. Give me like a running back who's higher in the trade chart or a couple.

[Jamie]

Then Tyree Kill. Give me a second.

[Adam]

All right.

[Heath]

You should just try to trade him for somebody that's on a bye week. That's obviously not going to be someone considered like Chase Brown might be somebody you can get for tires.

[Jamie]

Chase Brown is higher than him on the trade chart. James Cook is higher than him on the trade chart. Kenneth Walker, the third. Tons of running backs are.

[Adam]

Someone's asking Hill or neighbors.

[Jamie]

I've got Hill ahead of neighbors because I'm just worried about what's gonna. I mean, first of all, we should be worried about neighbors based on what's happened like the last four weeks.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

But now here comes Tommy DeVito who's a noted caretaker who's, you know, not so good in the pocket. We'll see how he does this time around with a better offensive line. Theoretically, on paper, it's better, but I, I'm not so excited about Malik Neighbors.

[Adam]

Okay, Jamie, your sell high.

[Heath]

Anthony Richardson, flip him now. You know, I mean, if you can. Clearly, it's tough to trade quarterbacks, but this is a terrible matchup for him this week against Detroit and has a buy in week 14. If you want to start him in week 13 against the Patriots. If he comes out of this game playing well, I certainly get that. But if you can trade him for something that can help you in another position, if your quarterback situation is okay, now's the time to do so. Coming off this monster game where people may think okay, he solved so I would try and get rid of Mythic.

[Adam]

So Tyree Kill for Dave, Anthony Richardson for Jamie and Heath. Your sell high.

[Dave]

So this is like the sell the highest sell high of all sell highs. Like you've got to really go get a Kings ransom. He's been awesome, but Joe Mixon in the fantasy playoffs is at Kansas City against Baltimore at Tennessee. Those three teams are the only three teams in the NFL giving up less than 3.7 yards per carry to running backs. It is the three worst matchups in terms of running back efficiency. I like you got to go get an RB1 plus. Like you should be able to get Breeze plus or Bijon Plus. But Joe Mixon's been incredible. He looked in his most recent game better than he looked when he was 23 years old.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

Like true.

[Dave]

Awesome.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Which is a great time after he does that in an island game to go get the moon.

[Jamie]

Would you turn him into McCaffrey?

[Dave]

I'd rather have McCaffrey.

[Adam]

Yeah. He's the number one running back per game. He's averaging over 20. I think over 21 pants points per game. But yep, he's got the worst. You're right. Worst schedule. I you know what? I think I'm gonna try to do that. I've mixing and McCaffrey in one league, but the other league I'm gonna see. I'm gonna do it right now. I'm gonna see if I can make it happen.

[Jamie]

I hope that they're tied on the trade chart and PPR, but in non PPR I do like mixing better. I just I McCaffrey looked he had good explosiveness in his first game. I thought he kind of took a step back in his second game also. I want to give everybody a fair warning. The sun is back.

[Adam]

Yes.

[Jamie]

I don't know when it's gonna happen, but it's coming.

[Adam]

So it turns out that in both of my Joe Mixer on his back.

[Heath]

Sorry that I left.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Both of my Joe Mixon leagues I also have McCaffrey so I guess I can't make that trade.

[Jamie]

But Would you turn him into Chimera?

[Adam]

No, I wouldn't either.

[Jamie]

I'd rather have Mixon, Kyron Williams.

[Adam]

No. God, no.

[Dave]

Reese hall not making one for one trade. We're gonna downgrade a little bit at running back in theory and add somebody else.

[Jamie]

I'm. I'm taking your temperature on these guys. I want to know where mix and ranks compared to them.

[Dave]

Breeze Hall, Kiren plus Bree plus.

[Heath]

Yeah, I think, I think he is right. Like if you're trading him, you're trading him for two players, two starters.

[Adam]

All right?

[Heath]

You're not going running back for running back.

[Adam]

So by low on Bucky Irving, Debo Samuel and Brian Thomas Jr. Sell high on Tyree Kill, Joe Mixon and Anthony Richardson. Someone said in the chat they traded Richardson for Debo Samuel. Nice work. Okay, let me get your thoughts on two running backs who have scored combined. One touchdown. It was receiving in the last four games. So they've gotten four straight games, both of them without a rushing touchdown. And they are Aaron Jones and Kyron Williams. And how do you feel about buying low on Aaron Jones and Kyron Williams? And I'll just say Aaron Jones. I think his longest run in his last four games is 12 yards. But they, we do like their roles. They've had some bad touchdown luck lately. Are they by lows, Aaron Jones and Kyron Williams?

[Heath]

Yeah. We're actually going to talk about this on Sports Network today with Robert Turbin. So if you want a running backs perspective on it, that'll be at 1 o'clock. They're both in slumps. They both have scored 11.2 PPR points or less in three straight games. 11.2, ironically enough, the exact same score as their best score for all three of them. So who snaps out of it first? Who has the best chance long term? I'm a little worried about Aaron Jones. Age, clearly, is something that you got to be somewhat worried about. And this rib injury, you know, who knows how it's going to impact him moving forward? You know, he's a hip injury played through, a rib injury played through. You know, give him credit. He's had a fantastic season for, you know, I think, at least from my expectations, I thought he would, he would, he'd be a little bit worse than this. But now you're starting to see some of the flaws. And it also coincides with, for what it's worth, Christian Darasov being out, you know, so they lose one of the best offensive linemen in the NFL. Cam Robinson, I think was a great pickup just to Try and, you know, find a replacement there, but he's not Dariso.

[Jamie]

And so there's an injury too, right? When Jones left the game with an injury, Came back late. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that.

[Heath]

But that was two games ago. He started before then.

[Jamie]

It did start before then. Okay, so it's all concerning. I. I don't know if I feel so good about Aaron Jones rest of season. Kyron, I think could snap out of it. If I have either of those running backs on my team and I can't sell high on them, I want the backups on my bench.

[Dave]

I. I think it's just been like we've had a stretch of a month or six weeks where all of their touchdowns were rushing touchdowns. And we've had a couple of games here recently where all their touchdowns are passing touchdowns. It's probably going to even out over the rest of the way. I'm 100 in on buying low on Kyron Williams and pretty much just as out on Aaron Jones.

[Jamie]

Is anybody interested on their schedules the rest of the way?

[Adam]

I mean, I looked at their schedules. They both have, I'd say neutral to slight Bears twice.

[Jamie]

Yeah, I think Jones has a good schedule the rest of the way.

[Adam]

All right.

[Jamie]

Rams. Not as much.

[Adam]

Okay. Some news and notes as we get ready to talk about the Thursday night game. The Steelers said that Arthur Smith said that he wanted to use Justin Fields more against Baltimore. So just be aware there are two quarterbacks who maybe could come off the field near the goal line. Just. That's a speculation. I have no idea. But Russell Wilson could be one of them and the other would be Cooper Rush, who's going to start again for Dallas at Washington. But they could use Trey Lance in certain situations.

[Dave]

Also Derek Carr.

[Adam]

Yeah. Brock Purdy has a sore shoulder. Get well soon. Brock Purdy for this game at Green Bay.

[Dave]

I do, too.

[Adam]

You do? It was from the.

[Jamie]

What happened.

[Dave]

It's really. I think it's just like a repetitive thing with the mouse.

[Adam]

Like literally your mouse on your computer.

[Dave]

Yeah, computer.

[Adam]

Oh, man. So this.

[Jamie]

Maybe you stuffed that towel in your roof hole too, too hard and you strained it.

[Adam]

So this like, can you get like workers comp for that?

[Dave]

No.

[Adam]

Okay. That's on the job. Injury here. Jake Ferguson unlikely to play this week. Brandon Cooks. Excuse me. Could be back this week. All right, so I want to give some stats here to talk about touchdown regression. And by the way, I've never felt so invalidated when it comes to a show topic. I wish I had done this poll before the show, but I started asking people, hey, let's do some grade the trade. Let's get some. I got a lot of response. But then I did a poll. When is your trade deadline already passed? This week, week 13 or after week 13? 59% of the respondents so far said their trade deadline already passed. Which really surprises me, to be honest with you. That's early. It's usually Thanksgiving week. I thought for most people, I think usually it's.

[Jamie]

It's after week 11 and we're on week 12. And usually week 12 is Thanksgiving week. This season it fell a different way.

[Adam]

Okay, okay. All right. But still, you know, nice to talk about players who could have big finishes or could struggle. So touchdown regression. Let me know if this, if this means anything to you. C.J. stroud is at 3.3%. Last year it was 4.6%. That's a touchdown rate. Geno Smith has a 2.9% touchdown rate, third in the NFL in past attempts. But he's 18th in green zone pass attempts inside the 10 yard line and in the green zone. Geno Smith has three touchdowns on 17 pass attempts. And no Seattle player has more than three touchdowns so far. That was one that really stood out to me, guys. Yep. I don't know.

[Dave]

The problem is. Well, that's. The problem is like 17 games is not a very big sample size. And so there's no guarantee that it's turning around this year. He's been unlucky. We should expect him to throw more touchdowns, but he might not.

[Adam]

I told you about the Brock Purdy thing. Matthew Stafford is a guy that's now three years in a row for Stafford where he struggles to throw touchdowns in the green zone. His touchdown rate in the green zone has been 21.4%, 33.3% and 25% in his last three seasons. Very low. So I don't know if that's just going to be a thing. Now at Stafford, all the touchdowns came last week, but he was having trouble scoring touchdowns before. All right, couple of receivers. These are. This one's might. Might be more interesting. Devonte Adams has seven targets inside the 10 yard line and one touchdown. Four of those seven have come from Aaron Rogers. Aaron Rogers has thrown 10 passes in the green zone since the trade for Rogers or for Adams, and four of them have gone to Adams. Also, the jets have the highest green zone pass rate in the NFL and George Pickens has seven green zone targets and zero touchdowns. So Adams and Pickens are guys that stand out. And I'll throw one more Hunter Henry, you look at three guys who have had a lot of targets inside the 10 yard line and zero or one touchdown catch. It's Adams, Pickens and Henry.

[Dave]

Excellent.

[Adam]

Oh, man. Here comes the sea. Here comes the sun.

[Jamie]

Doing it again. Oh, there it is. I'm in the sauna.

[Adam]

I look up for my notes.

[Dave]

This is fantastic. Really.

[Adam]

Heath, what do you think about Adams, Pickens and Henry? Does any of that resonate?

[Dave]

Yeah, yeah, I think like you should. And that's why, like, I don't completely normalize touchdown rate in my projections. But a lot of times when I'm higher or lower on a guy, it's because I'm expecting a little bit of regression in that regard. I think Pickens is the top 12 wide receiver rest of season, maybe top 10. Adams is a low end, number two wide receiver.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Dave]

What was in the. Henry? Was it Hunter Henry?

[Adam]

Hunter Henry, Yeah.

[Dave]

I mean, I get distracted by Dave slowly disappearing into the ether. It was good to know you, Dave.

[Adam]

A great tradition.

[Dave]

They kind of. Henry's a top 10 tight end.

[Adam]

Oh, okay.

[Jamie]

Wow. Okay.

[Adam]

Some running backs who maybe have had some bad touchdown luck. Saquon Barkley and Jonathan Taylor, they have 10 to 11 carries inside the five yard line and they've only scored three touchdowns on those carries. And they, of course, they have to deal with quarterbacks who score there as well. Aaron Jones, the aforementioned, he has eight carries inside the five yard line and only one touchdown run from that distance.

[Jamie]

On the season.

[Adam]

Well, yeah, on the season, only one touchdown from inside the five on eight carries for Aaron Jones. Terrible.

[Jamie]

I could have sworn that he had more than that. That's something that stood out to me.

[Adam]

And who's the running back that has the most carries inside the five yard line without a touchdown from that distance? It is Javante Williams. Six carries inside the 5, 0 touchdowns. Let's talk about Thursday Night Football. Pittsburgh is at Cleveland.

[Jamie]

That's a thunderstorm that's coming to Cleveland.

[Adam]

Okay. Yeah. So why don't we start with that, Dave? Bad weather.

[Jamie]

Yeah, it sounds like there's going to be some serious rain and maybe even some snow on Thursday for this game at night. There was one report that said that the winds were going to be north of 25 miles an hour. That's very concerning. Kevin Roth, who does an amazing job tracking the weather for Roto Grinders, he's on social media. He doesn't think the wind will be that big of a factor if the wind ends up being a factor. And you know me, I don't really like to look at weather until an hour before kickoff anyway to really make an impact in my fantasy rankings. But if there is serious wind, I don't know how you can feel good about starting any quarterback in this game, any kicker in this game and probably any Browns wide receiver in this game. I think that it would be very, very tough for Jameis to do what he's been doing if the ball is going to get stuck in the wind when he lofts it, you know, 25 yards downfield.

[Dave]

But and I think I agree 100%. I just think it's like as of right now, Kevin Roth doesn't think it is going to be that windy.

[Jamie]

Right. So it like he doesn't think it's going to be a factor.

[Dave]

If it is tomorrow night. We're not currently expecting that it will be.

[Heath]

I'm not certain James because of defense he's facing, not because of the weather.

[Jamie]

There's definitely that too. I mean you just saw what they did to Lamar Jackson. Lamar attempted 12 throws of 15 plus air yards against Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh did a great job against them. Technically they allowed a touchdown. Zay flowers touchdown was 16 yards and that ball traveled 16 yards. So I'm thinking that it's not going to be a good game for James. He's a by week quarterback at best.

[Adam]

What about Russell Wilson? Anybody want to start Russell Wilson?

[Heath]

If there's no wind issues, I have no problem starting Russ. Wouldn't prefer not to. But this is, this is the type of matchup he should excel in.

[Adam]

Obviously we thought that last week but.

[Jamie]

Right. Well I did. I don't know if everybody here did.

[Adam]

No, I think everyone had him in the top 12 against the terrible Ravens. You know it didn't happen. And he didn't throw the ball downfield against the Ravens. It was weird. He averaged 6.1 air yards per pass attempt. That was his first game below 8.2 air yards per pass attempt. And it was just like a really safe, boring game. He didn't make mistakes except for that end zone interception. And they just kind of low scoring, low scored their way to a win.

[Dave]

Yeah, I thought he was low scoring. 36 and a half is the over under on this game. That's one of the lowest of the year.

[Adam]

So then is there is George pick Okay. Pickens into Joku. Are they the only must starts in this game?

[Jamie]

Naji Steelers dst.

[Adam]

Okay, DST for sure. But Naji you feel like is a must start.

[Heath]

Yes.

[Dave]

I've got Naji at 21.

[Adam]

Okay. Jamie, are you around there on Naj, I think you guys are pretty similar.

[Heath]

I'm a little higher. I mean, you know, he's, he's having a good season and I think they're going to win this game easily.

[Adam]

I think a lot of people are probably going to be starting Jalen Warren this week. Given the bye week situation. Maybe expect around the normal 10 PPR points from him.

[Jamie]

Sounds about right.

[Dave]

Flex conversation God, I'm projected for 8.3 which is right in the middle of the flex conversation this week.

[Jamie]

Yeah, it really is.

[Adam]

Would you rather start Naji Harris or Cedric Tillman or Jerry Judy?

[Jamie]

Naji is safer. If you think Naj is going to score a touchdown then he's the easy one to start there over Tillman.

[Heath]

So I mean he came into last week with a solid three game stretch and then had a very good game against Baltimore.

[Dave]

In non and half ppr. I'd definitely start nausea over the Browns wide receivers in full PPR. I'd probably start the Browns wide receivers.

[Adam]

Naji had four catches for 30 yards against the Ravens who give up a ton of receiving yards to running backs. The Browns give up the fourth fewest receiving yards, but they are a much worse run defense than the Ravens without Jeremiah Wusu Karamoa. They've really struggled against the run so it looks like a good matchup. Pickens is a stud. I was actually surprised that Pickens is like for the season he's not a top 30 wide receiver per game in non PPR and I think he's about 24th to 26 somewhere in that range in full PPR and it's because he only has two touchdowns. But with Russell Wilson he's just been outstanding. So you're not going to sit George Pickens? Yeah. And again I know a lot of you in the chat probably have some questions about this game. So let's anything you have, help me out. Let me know the way you want to go if you want to.

[Heath]

Well, just since we're bringing up the chat, I know we're not going to show a lot of the comments. They're hysterical. By the way, you're doing a great job.

[Adam]

Oh, about Dave's. Yeah, one of them was like Dave's not coughing. What a legend. That was a really good comment. All right, so let's talk about. So Heath, I believe if I'm not mistaken you had Jerry Judy pretty high in your rankings top 15 or something. Am I wrong?

[Dave]

Yeah, I mean it's a terrible week at wide receiver. I've got him projected for 12 PPR fantasy points, which is not generally a top 15 wide receiver. But like I, I agree that the matchup is difficult. I still think Jameis is going to throw 40 passes. Still think you're getting 10 targets for Judy, 10 for Elijah Moore, 10 for Cedric Tillman. And even against a bad matchup, that's probably double digit PPR fantasy points. If Jerry Judy scores a touchdown, he's probably going to score 18 to 20.

[Adam]

So let me go through the wide receivers again. I did this on Monday, I did it on Tuesday, but one more time. Wide receivers with eight or more targets against the Steelers. That's basically what you can expect right now from these wide receivers on the Browns. So wide receivers with eight or more targets against the Steelers. There have been seven so far and three of them were bad. Garrett Wilson, CD Lamb and Devonte Adams, the three best that they face basically, well, three of the four best all struggled less than 12 PPR fantasy points for Garrett Wilson, CD Lam and Devonte Adams. Malik Neighbors had 14.1 PPR fantasy points on 13 targets. And the three wide receivers who did well with eight or more targets were Josh Downs, Jalen Tolbert and Michael Pittman. So go figure. But you basically have like a 50% hit rate on, on, you know, eight or more targets against the Steelers.

[Jamie]

And the Downs and Pittman game, that was when Richardson started, got hurt, Flacco came in. I wonder if the Steelers just weren't quite as ready for Flacco as, as, as they could have been. That's true because they were preparing for Richardson and Josh Downs got his numbers on short targets. I believe he might have had a long play for a touchdown. I don't remember, but I know that his ADOT in that game was really low. Pittman's was high. And these are all three receivers with, with the Browns who have high A dots because that's what Jameis does. He's got the fourth highest A dot passing of any quarterback since he started taking over. So we're talking about three, four weeks, something like that. I, I do worry a little bit about their effectiveness against the Steelers who've gotten better defending the deep pass over the last five weeks or so.

[Dave]

I, I think that the ADOT thing is a good point and the Josh Downs thing made me think this also. It might, I think I, maybe I'm liking Elijah Moore a little bit more because he does not have a big adot.

[Jamie]

He. Let me see. I've got it right here. His A dot since Jameis has taken over is 12.55 yards. It's actually higher than Judy's.

[Dave]

Judy's basically. Well yeah. Okay. It's three games and it's gentleman who's.

[Jamie]

At 14.1 for the year.

[Dave]

Elijah Moore's at 8.6. Three games worth of ADOT. Like one long pass could have a pretty big impact on that.

[Jamie]

That's fair.

[Heath]

But you're back change though, right?

[Adam]

It's with James.

[Dave]

What's. Who are the other bad wide receivers against Pittsburgh?

[Adam]

Adam Garrett Wilson, CD Lamb and Devonte Adams.

[Dave]

I'm not sure I would draw quite the same line in the sand between those guys because like CD Lamb had 11.4 fantasy points. Garrett Wilson had 11.1 fantasy points. Like the. The bad guys still scored 11. If you're telling me the floor this week for these guys, if they get eight plus targets it's 11 PPR fantasy points. I'm starting them.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Heath]

It's just a matter of as we're going to see this with this team all the time. There's going to be 40 to 46 pass attempts for Jameis. He was 41. 46. 46. So figure somewhere in that range you're gonna have as we've seen with the three guys so far in in the sample size that we have two great games for Tillman, one bad one, two great games for Elijah, more one bad one, three solid games for Jerry Judy. But one spike game. The joke has been sort of the the constant there. So anytime he's giving these guys chances to make plays, they're going to make plays. It's just a matter of who's going to be the one that gets sort of left out. Is it going to be because of coverage? Is it going to be because it's just off that day? It's hard to say.

[Jamie]

Because the weather be a factor. Yeah, that's another we'll have to revisit on top of this crap fire.

[Adam]

All right, so let me. Can I give one more stat here? We can.

[Jamie]

I would also like to give one more stat.

[Adam]

All right, good.

[Jamie]

Since week seven, only one wide receivers had 15 plus PPR points against the Steelers.

[Adam]

Who was that?

[Jamie]

Terry McLaurin.

[Adam]

Okay. Stat of the game that I don't think matters. I don't think it's going to move you. The Steelers have had before last week Derek Henry scored 12 and a half points last week. Before that the Steelers had allowed 17.5 or more PPR fantasy points to a running back in six straight games. That really surprised me. I didn't even realize that that's Taylor Rico Dowdle Madison Breeze hall, Tyrone Tracy Jr. And Austin Eckler. They've been awful against running backs and last.

[Heath]

It won't happen this week.

[Adam]

Yeah. You don't think so?

[Heath]

No, it's too hard to trust Chubb. I mean, he's. If they get behind, he's gonna, you know, lose reps. Yeah, he's not gonna play. So it's. They're just. Last week was his week to, you know, show us something, and he unfortunately didn't do it.

[Dave]

Full pbr. I've got Jalen Warren projected for more points this week, but it's.

[Jamie]

That's how it goes.

[Adam]

Tillman or Myers ppr?

[Heath]

I mean, it depends if you think Myers, what he did the first time against Denver's repeatable. I would take Tillman.

[Dave]

Tillman. I'd start all three Browns wide receivers over Myers.

[Adam]

He's not going to get shadowed.

[Jamie]

No, I'm taking Myers.

[Adam]

Nick Chubb or Eckler?

[Heath]

Eckler.

[Jamie]

Ppr. Eckler. It's close and non ppr. To be perfectly honest, I might take Eckler, even everywhere for me.

[Adam]

Would you drop Christian Watson for Cedric Tillman?

[Jamie]

I do have Tillman over Watson in full ppr.

[Heath]

I'd rather have Tom.

[Dave]

I'd rather have Tillman. It's probably one of those where I just, like, look at the waiver wire and not do anything.

[Adam]

Tillman or Javante Williams in half ppr.

[Heath]

Javante.

[Jamie]

This week I. I want to trust Gervonta so badly because the matchup is so good. I am a little scared that Sean Payton's gonna do some BS with his RBs that's going to make me say WTF. So I'm. I'll say I'm gonna probably take the chance on Javante, but I'm a little scared to do it.

[Dave]

I would go Tillman.

[Adam]

Okay. And Roshan Johnson or Nick Chubb.

[Dave]

Chubb.

[Heath]

Chubb. But it wouldn't surprise me if their numbers are the same.

[Adam]

Last one. Tillman or Pollard. Two more. Tillman or Pollard in non ppr.

[Jamie]

I'll probably take Pollard.

[Heath]

Pollard.

[Jamie]

And then, you know, if there's no Taj Spears, it's right.

[Adam]

Taj Spears in the concussion protocol. And Javante. Naji or Pollard? We need two. Javante. Naji. Pollard. Did I say Javante? Javante.

[Jamie]

Javante.

[Dave]

Yeah, I'm sitting. Javante.

[Jamie]

I'm. I've got Naji, the lowest of the three.

[Adam]

Heath or Dan. Ppr.

[Heath]

Heath would never lose to Dan in any sporting event.

[Adam]

Agreed.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Adam]

No tennis. He would like.

[Dave]

How long do I Get to practice.

[Adam]

It doesn't matter. Dan's legit. He's legit.

[Dave]

I watched. I like, I watched an entire matchup. Yeah, you didn't really underhand serve's not gonna. Not gonna work on me.

[Adam]

He's legit. He's legitimate. All right, that's. Oh, Steelers dst. Start them. And start David A. Joku. He's top seven for everybody. And we are going to take a bro. That's it for Thursday Night Football. We're going to take a break on Fantasy football today. Come right back with the feud, baby, and then we'll grade your trades to finish things off. We'll be right back. Well, I just downloaded a new game on my phone and it is awesome. It's called Marvel Snap. Marvel Snap is an award winning collectible card game that combines deep strategy, a unique snapping mechanic, your favorite Marvel characters, and thousands of unique card art variants created by renowned artists to collect and use. And first of all, it's just visually appealing. It looks awesome, but the gameplay is what matters. So let's talk about why you're going to love Marvel Snap. The games are fast paced. Each game takes only three minutes. Your objective is to win two out of three locations by having higher total power than your opponent. And as you win, you earn cosmic cubes. And I think my favorite part is the Snap mechanic. If you're feeling confident in your hand or maybe you want to bluff, snap to double the cosmic cubes. Or if you're not feeling confident, you can retreat any time to minimize cube losses. So this is where the strategy component really comes in. I love that there are more than 270 cards in Marvel snap with over 2000 unique art variants to collect from beloved artists. And new cards are released every week. They keep it fresh. Download Marvel Snap now on iOS, Android and Steam to start playing the award winning collectible card game.

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[Adam]

It's time for Fantasy Feud. What was that? That's the Fantasy Feud music.

[Jamie]

That's the Family Feud theme song. It's sung by me right now.

[Adam]

That was not. I don't know what that was. It was not the fantasy.

[Heath]

No way.

[Adam]

I'm sorry. All right, let's go with Heath versus Jamie for our first round. Here. Give me Heath. Give me Jamie. The top five answers are on the board. I'm looking for leaders in rushing touchdowns.

[Heath]

Jamie, Heath.

[Adam]

Derek Henry is the number one answer. Passer. Play.

[Dave]

What the heck? I'll play.

[Adam]

Okay, Derek Henry's off the board. We need the next four leaders in rushing touchdowns. Jalen Hurts, he's number two.

[Dave]

That's pretty much where I run Pretty, Pretty confident on those two names. Joe Mixon.

[Adam]

He is tied for third. Yep. There's. There are two others who are tied with Mixon.

[Dave]

Kyron Williams.

[Adam]

Oh, hold on one second. I have to get the buzzer sound.

[Jamie]

Some host doesn't even have his sounds. Ready?

[Adam]

There we go. I'll get. I'll get it for the next one.

[Dave]

David Montgomery.

[Adam]

Correct.

[Jamie]

That's a great.

[Adam]

You got four out of five. You've got Henry, Hertz, Montgomery and Mixon. One more with two strikes left. Top five in rushing touchdowns.

[Dave]

Is it Bijan?

[Adam]

One more guess. Jamie's thinking over there. Jamie's doing the X thing.

[Dave]

I mean, this would probably be pretty dumb, but they are pretty awesome.

[Heath]

So.

[Dave]

Jameer Gibbs.

[Adam]

Not a dumb guess. That's probably. Who I would have guessed is incorrect. All right, we've got Henry with 13 touchdowns, Hertz with 11, Montgomery and Mixon with 10. Who else has 10 rushing touchdowns? Who's number five? James.

[Heath]

You said the other day, James Cook.

[Adam]

Yeah, I did say. I. I don't. When did I say that?

[Heath]

Sunday night, maybe.

[Adam]

Oh, God. I don't. I don't remember saying that at all. Because when I saw it this morning, I was like, James Cook has 10 rushing touchdowns. Pathetic. I don't remember that. Yeah, that's still amazing to me. James Cook is tied for third with 10 rushing touchdowns. Jamie wins the round. All right, who will. Jamie.

[Heath]

That's the easiest win ever.

[Adam]

Who will Jamie be playing in the finals? Will it be Dave or Heath? David Heath, you're up now on Fantasy Feud. Here we go. Top five answers are on the board. I'm looking for the leaders in passing yards per attempt.

[Dave]

Heath.

[Adam]

Heath. Brock Purdy is the number three answer. Dave, you have a chance to get two or one.

[Jamie]

Oh, yards per attempt.

[Adam]

Three, two, one.

[Jamie]

Yeah, I'm not even gonna get a guess.

[Adam]

All right, he's pass or play.

[Dave]

Oh, what the heck? It's more fun to play.

[Adam]

It's more fun to play. I like that. It means you like the game. Okay, so we have Brock Purdy. We're looking for the top five in yards per attempt.

[Dave]

Purdy's number, Lamar Jackson.

[Adam]

Lamar Jackson's number two.

[Dave]

Jaden Daniels.

[Adam]

So far we have Jackson and Purdy. We need three more of the leaders in yards per attempt, including the number.

[Dave]

One answer, Jared Goff.

[Adam]

Correct. The number one answer. We've got golf, Jackson and Purdy. Next in yards per attempt. That was the one that Dave knew.

[Jamie]

No, no. When you came to me and like, I. It was on the tip of my tongue. I was like, it's a guy who's got a blue uniform. For whatever reason, I couldn't spit out Jared Goff. And then when he said Jared Goff, I knew that it was Jared Goff. None.

[Adam]

All right.

[Dave]

Jalen hurts.

[Adam]

Correct. He's number four. Holy cow. Is he's gonna take the entire five here?

[Dave]

No, I'm gonna miss and give Dave the fifth one that you said on Sunday night show.

[Adam]

I don't remember saying that. Goff, Jackson, Purdy, Hurts. Who's next?

[Dave]

Joe Burrow.

[Adam]

Seems like it should be Joe Burrow. Right? But it's not.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Double check out this.

[Dave]

It's not Joe Burrow.

[Adam]

You're sure about that? No, not.

[Jamie]

Oh.

[Heath]

I have a question that may influence this. Is there a minimum number of games?

[Adam]

Just pass a rating? Qualified. But there's. It's not like a trick. Let's see where Burrow is. You have five seconds.

[Dave]

Sam Darnold.

[Adam]

Sam Darnold is number six.

[Heath]

Oh, Joe Burrow.

[Jamie]

That was going to be my guest.

[Adam]

Oh, Joe burrow is only 16th. All right, so we're missing number five. We have Jared Goff, Lamar Jackson, Brock Purdy. Jalen hurts. Dave, your chance to steal the round.

[Jamie]

He already had three misses.

[Adam]

He did? Yeah.

[Jamie]

Okay. Russell Wilson.

[Adam]

Russell Wilson. You know what? I'm going to give you another guess because I. I don't think.

[Dave]

No, he's not qualified. Obviously not qualified. It was, but it's played three games.

[Adam]

No, he's. He's not qualified. I'll give you another guess.

[Dave]

It's like four quarterbacks left in the NFL.

[Jamie]

Herbert.

[Adam]

Justin Herbert is incorrect, by the way. Russell Wilson, yards per attempt. Where would he rank? He would not be in the top five. It is Derek Carr.

[Jamie]

Oh, yeah, of course. That makes sense.

[Adam]

It does? It. I never would have gotten.

[Jamie]

Oh, he's had a bunch of games this year where he attempts, like, 25 passes.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

All right, Remember early in the year, like, the whole offense was throwing deep to Rashid Shahid.

[Adam]

Heath has one, Jamie has one. But I guess we're going to maybe have a tie because Dave needs another chance here. Dave?

[Jamie]

No, I. No, I'm good. I'm good.

[Adam]

You sure?

[Jamie]

Yes.

[Adam]

All right, Jamie and Heath. Jamie and Heath going for round three. Let's see who wins. This is completely unfair way to play this game.

[Dave]

Are you okay over there, Jamie?

[Heath]

Yeah. Just like the sky was falling, a hat fell.

[Adam]

All right, the top five answers are on the board. This is an easy category here. Top five leaders in catches, receptions.

[Jamie]

Dave.

[Adam]

Dave, you're not in forfeited.

[Heath]

Jamie.

[Adam]

No, it's Heath. He already said. Go ahead, Heath.

[Dave]

Brock Bowers.

[Adam]

Brock Bowers is the number two answer. Jamie Chance for number one.

[Heath]

Jamar Chase.

[Adam]

Correct. He's number one. All right. You want to pass or play?

[Heath]

I'll pass.

[Adam]

Okay. He gets the. Oh, it's all Heath today on Fantasy Feud. All right, so we've got top five in catches. Number one is Chase. Number two is Bowers. You've got three strikes. There are no strikes yet.

[Dave]

Justin Jefferson.

[Adam]

Justin Jefferson is correct.

[Dave]

Really?

[Adam]

Correct? Yeah. Correct that it's not correct.

[Dave]

It's correct that it's not correct. Okay. Man, everybody's been hurt. This is going to be some dumb name. Jackson, Smith and Jigba.

[Adam]

That's a good guess, though. He's top 10.

[Dave]

Okay.

[Adam]

All right, so we have Chase and Bowers. And you have two strikes.

[Jamie]

Oh, sun in my eyes again.

[Dave]

Heath, is it?

[Jamie]

I don't know.

[Dave]

Yeah, I don't think this is right either. I'm on. Ross ain't Brown is right.

[Adam]

Believe it or not. I couldn't believe that. He's got, like, an 83 catch rate. He's fifth. Dave, stop.

[Heath]

Either. Good job, Dave.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Dave]

Ah, got it. That was a good one, Dave.

[Adam]

Yes. CD Lab. Dave. That's, like, ridiculous, Dave. Just sitting there cheating. CD Lab is fourth.

[Jamie]

All right, Cheating like the Ohio State Buckeyes might have cheated against the Miami Hurricanes in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl.

[Adam]

Where did that come from?

[Jamie]

I don't know. I'm just making a reference to something.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Jamie]

My wife was like, seriously, Dave, like, even she knows that I'm up to no good.

[Adam]

Okay, we have one more. Jamar Chase, Brock, Bowers, CD Lamb, Amon, Ross, st Brown. Who else is top five in catches?

[Dave]

I think Dave was just trying to give me the final clue and I don't know who he was telling me.

[Adam]

I think he's way off.

[Dave]

Garrett Wilson.

[Adam]

Damn it, Dave. It is Garrett Wilson.

[Jamie]

I mean, wow. He's great. That was amazing.

[Adam]

Thank you.

[Jamie]

That was amazing.

[Adam]

Why'd you rude Fantasy view for everyone. Congratulations.

[Jamie]

I didn't. He's got it all on his own. He said the names, I didn't say Heath. It's Garrett Wilson.

[Adam]

In an extremely unfair way. Heath has beat Jamie in Fantasy Feud even though Heath played three rounds, JB played two and Dave cheated for day for Heath. So. Okay.

[Jamie]

I'd like to think that I won Fantasy Feud today.

[Adam]

I think we all lost. Let's grade some trades.

[Dave]

I'm dedicating my victory to Dave.

[Adam]

Let's create the trade. All right. From you on you people on Twitter. Thank you for your trades. Johnny traded Josh Jacobs and Tyreek Hill for George Pickens and James Cook.

[Heath]

B.

[Adam]

We like Pickens better than Hill, right?

[Jamie]

Yes.

[Adam]

Do we like Cook better than Jacobs?

[Heath]

They're slight upgrades.

[Jamie]

Yes.

[Adam]

Okay, so he won on both accounts. Good job.

[Jamie]

He did.

[Adam]

Jordan is in a six point PPR league. Six point for touched per passing, touchdown, one point for catch. He gives up Jaden Daniels and Jonathan Brooks. He gets Joe Burrow and Ramondre Stevenson.

[Jamie]

That's a win. Good job.

[Adam]

Yeah, it's great. Would you rather have Burrow or Daniels? Is it even close at this point?

[Jamie]

I think it's Burrow.

[Heath]

I think if you're not in need of a win this week, it's bro. If you need a win this week, it's Daniels.

[Adam]

We said on Thursday or on Friday after the Thursday game that Daniels is a good buy. Low, right?

[Heath]

It's great by low. Yeah. It's got to hope he's healthy. I mean, think about some of the guys that we're talking about here. Daniels playing the rib injury, three straight stinkers. Aaron Jones playing through rib injury, three straight stinkers. I mean, that's an injury that we, you know, Debo Samuel playing through an oblique injury. You know, we're starting to see a little bit of maybe why these guys are not performing up to the level that they're capable of.

[Dave]

I, I, I thought, like what Jamie said, we really need to emphasize this week Especially if your trade deadlines this week, especially if you're maybe a game out of the playoffs this week, you're gonna have to throw value out a little bit. If you've got to get a win, go get a win and figure the rest of the season out.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Or you might. If you're 8 and 1 or 8 and 3 or whatever your record might be. If you. If you're in the playoffs or if you got the top two seed locked up, might be okay to take a loss this week. Trade for some guys on by and be better in the playoffs.

[Adam]

From Jason half PPR two quarterback, three receiver league give up Aaron Rogers and DK Metcalf. Get Brian Robinson Jr.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Heath]

I really have DK rest of season.

[Jamie]

Yeah. I don't like that trade.

[Dave]

I don't like it.

[Adam]

That's enough from J.D. i traded Jaden Reed, D.K. metcalf, Isaiah Pacheco and Tyrone Tracy.

[Jamie]

That's a lot.

[Adam]

Yeah. Reed, Metcalf, Pacheco and Tracy for A Chan Mooney and Jennings.

[Dave]

Hey.

[Jamie]

I don't know. I don't think you. I don't think you got enough in return.

[Dave]

Who was the running back he traded.

[Adam]

Away Pacheco and Tracy. Let's look at it like this. Let's look at it. Two separate trades. Pacheco and Tracy for Devon Achan.

[Dave]

A plus. Like you got extra credit. You. We're gonna pass you in two classes because that trade's so good.

[Jamie]

Okay.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Jamie]

And then I agree.

[Adam]

Jaden Reed and DK Metcalf for Darno Mooney and Juwan Jennings.

[Jamie]

Yeah. Maybe it's not that bad.

[Dave]

The same thing that's.

[Adam]

You like that trade?

[Dave]

It's. No, I.

[Adam]

Okay. Sorry, I thought you meant it's the same thing as the. As the HN trade.

[Dave]

The difference between the running backs is much bigger than the difference between the wide receiver.

[Jamie]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Heath]

You would rather have Jennings than the other two guys.

[Dave]

I think Jennings and DK are probably pretty close. And I think Reed and Mooney are pretty close.

[Adam]

This one is from Hipster Doofus 21. Sounds like someone I'd be friends with. 10 team people. I'm not a hipster at all, though. The other. Yeah, the other part. Yeah. 10 team PPR league give up Tillman and Josh Allen. Get Kyler Murray and Mike Evans and he also has Justin Herbert, so. Yep. You like it?

[Jamie]

I like it. Good dude. Good. Good deal. Good deal, dude.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Heath]

You gotta really feel confident that Kyler's going to be close to Josh Allen.

[Jamie]

But he also has Herbert, I don't know that yet.

[Adam]

I mean, you're getting a huge upgrade, aren't you? From Tillman to Evans.

[Jamie]

I said provided that Evans is okay.

[Adam]

Yeah, he's okay. Dill traded Flowers for Swift. He badly needed a running back.

[Dave]

That's a C. It's fine.

[Adam]

Yeah, Update. So that's.

[Jamie]

I like Flowers better. If it's PPR.

[Adam]

From Ben JSN and Devante Smith for T. Higgins.

[Jamie]

That feels like an overpay for T. You just.

[Heath]

Gotta wonder with T. Higgins, like, if they're out of playoff contention, does he shut it down again?

[Adam]

Oh, they're making the playoffs.

[Heath]

I hope so. I really do.

[Jamie]

Oh, that would be fun.

[Heath]

I mean, would you rather see them in the playoffs than the Texans at this point?

[Dave]

Well.

[Adam]

Or the Colts?

[Jamie]

No, no. I mean, listen, I think it's going to be fun to watch any of those teams play in the playoffs.

[Heath]

Like, I'd rather, you know, this is where you get rid of divisions, like.

[Adam]

Get rid of division.

[Heath]

Bengals every week than almost every team at this point.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Jamie]

And the Texans are the least fun to watch, I'll give you that.

[Dave]

So the Bengals are a lot of fun, but I also think, like, it's worth saying that they've absolutely earned this. Like, they.

[Jamie]

For sure. Yes.

[Dave]

Like, they. They don't deserve to be in the playoffs at all.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Jamie]

I. I think if they were on the table, finished 10 and 7. Yeah, they were terrible at the beginning of the year. He's right. But if they run the table, Heath, and they go 10 and 7 and they squeeze into a wild card spot, then they've earned that, too.

[Dave]

They've blew a close games. They blew the Chiefs game.

[Adam]

They lost to the Patriots.

[Dave]

Win the games you should win.

[Adam]

Yeah, I agree. They. They do deserve it, but they're obviously exciting. I don't think anybody wants to play them in the playoffs.

[Jamie]

You know, everybody would want to play their defense in the playoffs. Nobody would want to play their offense in the playoffs.

[Adam]

If you were whoever, the Chiefs, the Bills, whatever. Would you rather play the Broncos or the Bengals in the playoffs?

[Heath]

I mean, everybody's gonna say the Broncos.

[Jamie]

I don't know about that. Broncos defense is good.

[Adam]

Yeah, whatever. I mean, like, you're 100, right. But you'd rather play the. You'd rather play the.

[Heath]

You don't want to play in a league. Quarterback ever.

[Adam]

Yeah. All right. From Brigade. Gellert or something. I traded Jaden Daniels and Brian. What?

[Heath]

Say it again.

[Adam]

No, the name.

[Heath]

Say it again. It's not. It's not bad. Say it again. No, it's not a potty name.

[Adam]

You have a look on your face. I don't know.

[Heath]

I think. I think it's brigade alert.

[Adam]

No, it's not.

[Heath]

No, No.

[Adam]

G, E L, L E R T. Okay, I traded. I know JB has that I'm up to no good look. Traded Jaden Daniels and Brian Robinson Jr. For Jameer Gibbs.

[Jamie]

I'm good with it.

[Heath]

If your quarterback's okay, then it's an upgrade.

[Adam]

Yeah, well, the big winner today is Heath for just crushing it on Fantasy Feud. I mean, one of the better performances that we've seen this year. Yeah.

[Dave]

You know, I. This. This wind goes out to Dave in the sun.

[Jamie]

Props to the sun.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

Thanks for shining down on us.

[Adam]

We will talk to you on tomorrow's episode with starter sit for the AFC home game. See you later, everybody. Thanks for watching Paramount pod tests. Hey, order up. Small Business Saturday is right around the.

[Jamie]

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[Adam]

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