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Jamie Eisenberg
Can you believe this?
Adam Azer
No, I can't.
Dave Richard
It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays on his feet. This is going to go the now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and he.
Adam Azer
I have very mixed feelings about the waiver wire this week. You know you never like a good waiver wire week at running back because it means other running backs got injured. But now we're seeing these injuries might not be long term at all. So it's somewhat of a confusing waiver wire as we get into week 12. We welcome you to Fantasy Football Today presented by BetMGM. Make it legendary. Adam Azer, Dave Richard and Jamie Eisenberg. We've got Michael Wilson, we've got Emmanuel Wilson. We've got Sean Tucker. We've got Kenneth Gainwell. But who should we prioritize and what are we going to do at quarterback if we need one of those this week. What's going on, Dave? Richard, how about that new look Cowboys defense?
Dave Richard
This was kind of easy to see coming at least for this matchup against the Raiders because that offensive line was so terrible. But Quinn and Williams, what a difference maker. Huge against the run, huge against bed. The Raiders didn't even try running the football and the Cowboys got healthier on defense. They got a couple of players back in the secondary and dare I say that this amazing matchup that we had for the first half of the season is gone. It's over. And the Cowboys are now a tough matchup for teams moving forward. That being said, I think I'm still going to start my Eagles players in Week 12.
Adam Azer
Well, the Eagles are 22nd in scoring. That's the funny part about this. Now they're facing this Dallas defense this week. That'll be really interesting one to break down. Anyway, Jamie, it is waiver wire week after all. First of all, quick shout out in the chat to Ebbs and flow who predicted before the show started that I was going to have my orange shirt on and he gave three to one odds and congratulations. You nailed it. I guess I have to buy some new clothes. Well, tis the season, right? All right, Jamie, who are the top three waiver wire priorities for week 12?
Jamie Eisenberg
There's a lot of different ways you can go with this. I put Kenneth Gainwell at the top, then Emmanuel Wilson second and then Michael Wilson third.
Adam Azer
Okay. Kenneth Gainwell, Emmanuel Wilson, Michael Wilson. Dave, how about you?
Dave Richard
Manuel Wilson's at the top for me. And then I've got a whole lot of questions, but if I want certainty, I I want guys that I'm pretty sure are going to start this week. Michael Wilson is going to be second. Juwan Johnson's going to be third. Your top three may vary based on your needs, your wants, your fantasy team. This is going to be the most complicated waiver wire week of the season and the most impactful one because it's going to make or break a bunch of fantasy teams fighting for playoff spots.
Adam Azer
So where are we, Jamie, in terms of the health of Josh Jacobs? Jalen Warren? It's funny because you talk about Sean Tucker. Bucky Irving might be back this week. We don't know about Marvin Harrison Jr. But just looking at Pittsburgh and Green Bay backfields. Where are we there?
Jamie Eisenberg
We're in wait and see mode. You know, the report on Jacobs was that it's a knee bruise and he potentially could play this week. My guess is they they'd probably keep him out, but could play this Week. Jalen Warren, dealing with an ankle sprain potentially could play this week. He said he could have gone back into the Bengals game, but we know how that goes sometimes with players, and we had the situation with him earlier this year where he was trending to play in the game in Ireland and then didn't play the morning of. So they've already given us an example of one time of him dealing with an injury and then not playing him that week. In the case of Sean Tucker, you mentioned Bucky Irving could return this week. He started practicing last week, so no surprise there. In the case of Michael Wilson, Marvin Harrison Jr. Can return this week. You know, it's not out of the realm of possibility that a player can come back one week later from, you know, or just missing one game with an appendix situation. So there's a lot of moving parts with this. And so I think when you just look at it like you look at, okay, who's played, who has the chance to maybe play more if the other player is injured, in the case of Wilson and Gainwell, and then also just looking at some of the schedule situations, like if there's a scenario of Kenneth Gainwell being the starting running back for the Steelers, their next three games are great. So it could be fantastic for him. If Jalen Warren is going to miss any time. In the case of Emmanuel Wilson, I don't know if he's going to necessarily step into the Josh Jacobs role and be Josh Jacobs, because this offensive line is not the same. You know, losing Jenkins at center, you saw it last week. It wasn't. It wasn't as dominant per se as. As it was now. Jacobs is clearly a different player, so you're not going to worry about him as much as you might a backup. And we've seen this Vikings defense obviously play very Jekyll and Hyde in terms of how they defend the run. So for me, looking at it in Gainwell versus Wilson, you know, yesterday, Adam, when we did FFT Express, I told you Wilson was number one for me, but then just sort of evaluating it. Like, Gainwell plays in tandem with Jalen Warren pretty consistently, and now you're maybe giving him that role where we've seen him be absolutely dominant in that role. And so that, for me, puts him at the top.
Adam Azer
Okay, so it. Let's say we find out later today, which we won't, but hypothetically, Josh Jacobs and Kenneth G. And Jaylen Warren are both out this week. Dave, who would you prioritize?
Dave Richard
If they're both out this week, then Gainwell's the problem. No question about it. And we might find out that today because Mike Tomlin talks to the media on Tuesdays. So if you're not doing anything on your lunch break on the east coast or when you get into work on the west coast, you can find Mike Tomlin's press conference on X. And he will probably comment on Jalen Warren. And you might say something like, in. In his own vernacular, that doesn't necessarily help us. Or he might say he's unlikely to practice this week. So he. So he's usually not. When he's not vague about a player, you can take it to the bank. When he is vague about a player, then it probably means he legitimately doesn't know. But if we. If we learn that Warren's ankle is a problem and, you know, 24 hours after a game, it could get worse, then, yeah, absolutely. Gainwell would be the one that I would want.
Jamie Eisenberg
The most amazing thing with the Steelers is that's not even remotely close to their first priority this week.
Dave Richard
Oh.
Adam Azer
With Rogers. With the quarterback Rogers and the Jalen.
Jamie Eisenberg
Ramsey Jamar Chase situation, like you, you may get 15 questions in before you hear a word about Jalen Warren.
Dave Richard
Sure, sure. So Rogers will be the story. They're gonna. I don't think Ramsey's getting suspended.
Jamie Eisenberg
No, no, no, no, no. But it's still gonna be questions about it. That's the biggest story in the league right now.
Dave Richard
So Tomlin will shut that down, and I promise you he'll be more vague about Rogers unless he knows he's for sure out.
Adam Azer
Yeah, Right. So we gotta see that situation. And Jamar Chase is suspended. I'm getting some questions about Jamar Chase trades. And I would say to you that if you've got a Jamar Chase manager in your league, that's five and six or something like that, four and seven, desperate for a win, you need to go try to acquire Jamar Chase. You need to try to not rip this person off, but make a trade. And, you know, this is like what you do when a guy's going into his bye week, but find the Jamar Chase owner and make him a trade for a lesser wide receiver. If, obviously you have to be in position to be able to withstand not having Chase for a week. But this is an opportunity to have Jamar Chase down the stretch in your lineup and. And take advantage of a vulnerable fantasy manager.
Jamie Eisenberg
And I don't know the answer to this. He is appealing this.
Adam Azer
That's true.
Jamie Eisenberg
And. Okay, I'd be very surprised if he wins the appeal. But when are they going to hear the appeal before.
Dave Richard
That's today. And I believe the results could also come out today.
Jamie Eisenberg
Then, then that's obviously what Adam said. Makes 100% sense. But just in the off chance that they don't hear it this week, which I did not know. So apologize. Don't.
Dave Richard
Don't apologize.
Jamie Eisenberg
Then, then we could have this pushback.
Adam Azer
Come on, Jamie.
Dave Richard
No, no, no. There was a, there was a case early. It was like a month ago. I can't remember what it was right now off the top of my head, but there was an appeal for a suspension and like I think it was Jordy Nelson heard it and then like immediately said, sorry, appeal denied, you're suspended.
Adam Azer
All right, so just someone in the.
Dave Richard
Chat will remind us.
Adam Azer
Kenneth Gainwell versus Emmanuel Wilson. Just their schedules gain well is so much better. Jamie was alluding to this. Chicago, Buffalo, Baltimore, Miami. We're not expecting Jalen Warren to miss four games, but Wilson has Minnesota. They're 10th against running backs. They allow 4 yards per carry to running backs. They're inconsistent. Sometimes they, they're good, sometimes they're bad. The week after that is Detroit and Detroit is legitimate. I mean they are really good. They are the number one against running backs. So Wilson's got a tougher slate ahead than gain. Well, if there's multi week absences for the running backs in that backfield, Tucker has the Rams. They're really tough this week. Although they have allowed a touchdown to a running back in two straight games. They hadn't done that all season before that. And Bucky Irving could be back as he was practicing last week. You got Donovan Knight. That's interesting. You got Chris Rodriguez on a buy. But Donovan Knight is a tough matchup too. You know, Jacksonville's got a great run defense, you got Devin Singletary. But unfortunately the Giants facing Detroit this week. Detroit again, number one against running back. So it's like these and you've got Bashful Tutin. We don't know his status but it seems like he's not seriously injured.
Jamie Eisenberg
He said after the game that he's fine. So there was, he spoke to the media post game and there was one report from a Jacksonville TV station that he said he's fine. So I mean look, he was getting more touches than Travis ETN before he got hurt.
Dave Richard
It's true.
Adam Azer
It was. They both got a lot. I think it's 15 carries for 2 and 12 for ETN or 14 for ETN, something like that. Let's call it 13, 12, 15 to 12. Okay. So, yeah. Anyway, it's, it's, it's really interesting because we got these really exciting opportunities for running backs, but they all could have their running mate, their starter back this week. It could be a bust. So then what do you pivot to Michael Wilson? Well, obviously there's the Marvin Harrison thing. Do you pivot to Juwan Johnson? Dave mentioned him before we move on and talk about fab and all that.
Jamie Eisenberg
There's one sneaky one, though, who I miss. Joshua.
Adam Azer
He's had, you know, he's had opportunities before. And I, I mean, I went back, I looked at the five games he played without T. Higgins last year, the one game he played without Jamar Chase two years ago. There have been a few touchdowns in there, but pretty much never really does anything in Yoshivas.
Jamie Eisenberg
I just said he's sneaky. I didn't say he's guaranteed. Just sneaky. Yeah.
Dave Richard
Is he a top five wide receiver to add this week?
Jamie Eisenberg
Oh, easily.
Adam Azer
Okay.
Dave Richard
I don't know, man. There's a bunch of other ones that I like.
Adam Azer
Bengals are playing New England. You might want to see if Ramandre Stevenson's on your waiver wire. I think he's 89 rostered if, let's say, when Marvin Harrison gets back. I asked Jamie this yesterday, I think on the early waiver wire show. But, Dave, I'll ask you, when Marvin Harrison gets back, what do you expect from Michael Wilson?
Dave Richard
Seven or eight PPR points. Okay, Jamie, that's four patches, 40 yards, something. I don't think he did anything in, in last week's game that's going to earn him a significantly higher target share moving forward. He took advantage of a favorable game script and a quarterback that just would not stop throwing and good for him. Like, it was a great game. And even if he did half as well, we'd still be putting them up at the top of the wide receiver ranking or wide receiver waiver rankings for this week because we don't know if Marvin Harrison is going to play.
Adam Azer
Yeah. All right, well, we'll move on here. By the way, we have a show today, CBS Sports Network, 1pm Eastern. So hopefully we'll have some updated information for you by then, but check it out. 1pm Eastern, CBS Sports Network. At the end of the show, we'll be answering your questions. I have a tweet on X, Twitter, whatever you want to call it, asking for some questions. So if you want to get that in and then tune in around 12:50pm we'll be answering your questions. But go ahead and reply to the tweet and let us know what's on your mind. Boy, some exciting matchups in the fantasy football today league. Heath barely beat me. Jamie. What a win. One by, like, one point. All we needed. I was rooting against Jamie for standings purposes. All we needed was one more sack by that Cowboys defense. I got that last sack. It was so close. Jamie was playing against them. He had Trey Tucker.
Jamie Eisenberg
So I almost. I'm gonna get crushed because I lost Drake London and don't have Quentin Johnson. Not that he's been great, but, like, my receiving core is barely hanging on at this point. But I was almost gonna text our friend Maron Bergson, who I was playing against when Tucker scored the touchdown. And I went ahead and I was like, no, no, no, no, no. It's still Geno Smith. He could throw a pick. Like, I'm not gonna jinx that at all. And then just watching.
Adam Azer
It was close. Exciting. I don't usually watch other people's matchups, but this was fun to be in.
Jamie Eisenberg
Of course, also in our. In our podcast league, it was. Went into the. Into the game with Pickens vs. CD Lamb with a slight lead, and then when Lamb scored the touchdown, we were like, oh. And then Pickens dominated.
Adam Azer
I lost by 0.4 in the podcast league.
Jamie Eisenberg
Oh, Watching this live is fun. Oh.
Adam Azer
I didn't even check because I had such a bad week. I was like, forget it.
Jamie Eisenberg
You know, Adam, I'll let you curse. Go ahead, say bad word.
Adam Azer
No, you know, I'll let you curse.
Jamie Eisenberg
I have.
Adam Azer
This has been not my year. My. I'm gonna rename all my teams. Down at the one yard line.
Jamie Eisenberg
Somebody. Somebody. Colts fan just asked the question, should Dan be happy or upset about this? So I don't know if he's tanking or not. In one of the dynasty leagues. We're in because he's 500. He was.
Adam Azer
No, he's not.
Jamie Eisenberg
Maybe five and six or six and five coming into. No, he was 500. Right. It was week 11, so he's five and five and he would have beaten me. I'm. I'm in first place. He would have beaten me if he did not leave Tucker, Kraft and Chase Young in his lineup. One is on ir, one's on a buy, so I don't know if he's tanking. Oh, and. And did that purposely. The rest of his lineup was. Was completely legit, but he left Quinn and Williams on his bench, which would, I think, put him over the top. And he lost by eight. And any tight end he has, like, three tight ends on his bench, so he would have won. So I don't know if he's happy. Like, oh, I would have beat you so he could talk trash that way. Like, if I set my lineup, I could have beat you.
Adam Azer
Or, oh, yeah, he'll figure out a way.
Jamie Eisenberg
I'm sure he will. Or it's just me saying, you know, you didn't set your lineup, then we make fun of him that way.
Dave Richard
Going back to the podcast league, Jamie, Adam lost by 0.38. Quentin Johnston was in his lineup.
Adam Azer
Yeah.
Dave Richard
And you know how he's been all about Quentin Johnston.
Adam Azer
Pathetic. I don't think I had another option.
Dave Richard
All right, anyway, you also started Greg Dulcich at tight end.
Adam Azer
Oh, yeah, Dave. He outscored Pat Friarmouth. What am I supposed to do? I lost Sam Laporta. What am I supposed to do?
Dave Richard
All right, we lost either way, no matter who you started.
Adam Azer
We will take a break and come back and talk about fab. Talk about the news and a lot of news and notes and get into the waiver wire after this.
Jamie Eisenberg
Oh, I know that you want to say it. Just say a bad word.
Adam Azer
No, I just fiddlesticks. It just sucks. I'm having one of these years. Snake bit, man. All right. Anyway, I don't know how much we have to get into fab.
Jamie Eisenberg
You need.
Adam Azer
If you need someone, just get them. But just bear in mind, if you spent a lot of fab tonight on Emmanuel Wilson or Kenneth Gainwell, you're obviously running the risk of not having.
Jamie Eisenberg
I tried to be conservative with how I framed it in the story, you know, just based on, like, clearly similar sentiment. If you need them, go get him. You know, especially if you're the Jalen Warren or Josh Jacobs manager, you know, you want to make sure you just have that backfill locked up. Clearly, it's a different story. But to your point, like, we may be sitting here and you're like, oh, my God, I just wasted all this fab on a backup.
Adam Azer
Yeah, exactly. All right, so look, I think if you. If you have a very good record right now, you know, you're making the playoffs, there's a lot of value to holding on to some fab. Because when you get to the fantasy playoffs, you're not competing on the waiver wire with that many teams. And if you've got all the fab, you can bully, you can get every player you want, and you can get every player your opponent wants in some cases, too. So I like, if you can withstand it. Hold on. To your fab and have that strength going into the fantasy playoffs. Okay? With that said, let's break down the news and notes here. Michael Penix Jr. Is out for the season with a knee injury, so it's Kirk Cousins time. It's also going to be an interesting week in two quarterback leagues. Aaron Rodgers has this broken wrist so we'll hope to get an update today at Chicago this week for the Steelers. Justin Herbert should be fine. Bryce Young's got an ankle injury. I kept mentioning this. We'll see if he's able to play this week. He through it, but sometimes it's easier to play through it than to play the next week. Jordan Love's got a sore shoulder. He says he'll be fine. C.J. stroud. They're playing Thursday against Buffalo. His status is unknown. Dylan Gabriel's in the concussion protocol right now. He's not expected to start. Probably going to be a Shador Sanders week, but they did say that Dylan Gabriel is the starter when healthy. Of course Sanders could change that with a big performance. The jets are going to start Tyrod Taylor this week at Baltimore. He's 3% rostered.
Jamie Eisenberg
So glad I told you that yesterday.
Adam Azer
Yeah, Running back news Ramandre Stevenson's gonna practice today. We got the Jacobs Jalen Warren news. Amari Di Mercado. I haven't seen anything on him. Have we seen anything on demarcado?
Jamie Eisenberg
Shefter tweeted this morning that's a high ankle sprain most likely gonna miss this week.
Adam Azer
Ah, okay. Okay. Well there. So now we just have to find out about Trey Benson if he's gonna play. We still don't know that. Drake London's week to week Calvin Ridley out for the season. Jamar Chase is as of now suspended for a game but he is appealing it. K Sean Booty. Booty is going to practice this week. Interesting note on case on Booty. He runs the most go routes in the NFL. He's facing the Bengals. From what Dave and I have looked up on True Media, which uses PFF data, the Bengals have only given up two completions all year on go routes, which is weird. Oddly low. But that's what the data says and that's about it for wide receiver offensive line Lane Johnson. The Eagles he's out four to six weeks with list Frank injury. Big deal for them. And defensively, are there any teams that are so beat up defensively that we're targeting them? Maybe. I think the fact that the Bengals lost Cam Taylor, Britt, not that he's been that Good. That could be significant for them. Atlanta's been injured.
Jamie Eisenberg
Oh.
Adam Azer
Oh. I got a good IDP guy.
Dave Richard
Arizona. Arizona.
Adam Azer
Yeah. Arizona. San Francisco.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah.
Adam Azer
The replacement for Fred Warner, Tatum Bethune. He's out a few weeks with a high ankle sprain. Also, Eddie Pinero has been great. Their kicker. He's out. But it is Curtis Robinson that's your IDP pickup of the week. He will now be, I think, playing middle linebacker for the 49ers. And he had five solo tackles, two more assisted tackles, and that was replacing Bethune. So Curtis Robinson is a guy that I'm spending the rest of my $3 in fab. In our IDP league on. Jamie, if you want them, you have to spend more than $3.
Jamie Eisenberg
All right.
Adam Azer
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Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah. Jacoby Brissette, actually, you know, very good option based on what we've seen from him in five games without Kyler Murray. Last week was probably the most surprising one, just simply because we didn't have high expectations after Marvin Harrison was ruled out. But he performed historical based on how many completions he was able to accrue. But he's the easy choice there. After him, it's just a mixed bag. So I have James Winston second and Bryce Young third. We'll keep an eye on Young with the. With the ankle injury, Jameis looks like he's gonna get another start since Jackson dark still in the concussion protocol as of Monday. And I think Winston will probably throw the ball a lot more than he did against the packers against the Lions in their building, most likely chasing points from the opening kick.
Adam Azer
Okay, Brissette as Jacksonville this week. That's great. Even though Justin Herbert, Tampa Bay, they're 23rd against quarterbacks, then the Rams, then Houston. So that's kind of tough, but too.
Jamie Eisenberg
Great to stay away. Yeah.
Adam Azer
And then you've got Atlanta and Cincinnati in week 16 and 17. So at least one of those is good. You could argue that Jacoby Brissette should be the. You know, if, if you're worried about that running back situation, you don't need one. That he could be your number one priority this week.
Jamie Eisenberg
Just, he's a great pivot if you've been starting Herbert or Knicks. And obviously if you went to TUA last week, who I thought would play well, did not against Washington. So three quarterbacks on a buy that you can look at and say, okay, I'm going to go get this guy. And, and the Jane Daniels manager too, that was replacing him also.
Adam Azer
Okay, Dave. Top three running backs for me.
Dave Richard
Emmanuel Wilson's first. Kenneth Gain will second. Chris Rodriguez's third. That answer could change in like three hours because we, we might get some information that could push game well down or up. But those would be my first three priorities with Bashel Tootin right behind Rodriguez.
Adam Azer
Not Sean Tucker.
Dave Richard
Not Sean Tucker because I, I'm a little. He's fighting two battles. Number one, when Bucky Irving comes back, I think Bucky's gonna have a sizable role. Number two, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take you all the way back to 2024 when Sean Tucker had an amazing game against New Orleans, tons of touchdowns, tons of total yardage. And the very next week, he went right back to being just like a nominal player for Tampa. And he never really even gained a foothold in having a big role the rest of the season. And so he's also fighting coaches decisions and whether or not they're going to give him the same type of opportunity that he had in, in a half, really, against Buffalo.
Adam Azer
Okay. And I'm. I apologize for not remembering your answer from.
Jamie Eisenberg
Man.
Adam Azer
It was a. That was at least 15 minutes ago. If will, if, if, if Warren is.
Dave Richard
Out, Gainwell is number one for everybody. It doesn't matter what your needs are. Go get Kenneth Gainwell.
Adam Azer
But you think there's a better chance of Warren playing this week than Jacobs? As of now.
Dave Richard
As of now, as of 9:03am Eastern Time on Tuesday, November 18th. Oh, my God, it's my wife's birthday.
Adam Azer
No, it's not.
Jamie Eisenberg
It's not.
Adam Azer
Jamie. Top three wide receivers.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah. Michael Wilson would be one. Clearly, if he gets another chance. He's got top 15 upside. Based on what we saw last week with the 18 targets and I, I think just you look past that a little bit. Even what Marvin Harrison was doing, he had 10 targets and 12 targets in the previous two games with with Jacoby Brissette. I have Christian Watson too and Yoshi Vas 3. You know, just looking at what Watson hopefully will do. You know, they're still, I think trying to adjust to life without Tucker Kraft and Watson. I would like to see more targets but hopefully the upside continues to show through and then I'll just take a chance on Yoshavas against the Patriots without Chase there. Chase averages 11.7 targets per game. Yoshibas has two games this season with seven targets. He's been over 13 PPR points in both of those. So I'm expecting the Bengals to be the Bengals and throw the ball a lot and so hopefully he benefits with the additional targets.
Adam Azer
All right, Michael Wilson, Christian Watson, Andre Yoshevas and Dave top tight ends again. Another guy I think you could make the case should be the number one waiver wire priority in Juwan Johnson.
Dave Richard
Agreed. And it, it really comes down to your team being just so loaded except your streaming tight end. Or maybe you traded away a stud tight end and you never really recovered. Joan's out there in 54% of leagues. He's good for around 10 PPR points as a floor from week to week. And I think most Saints games are going to follow a pretty similar game script where they're trailing and they have to throw and that's good for Juwan Johnson. But this week might be a little bit different against Atlanta. So even if Juwan has a bad game this week, you should stick with them. Dalton Schultz does hit the threshold 35 available in fantasy leagues on CBS. If he were out there, I would be interested in him as well and then I would. I kind of like Noah Fant as far as one of those easy check down guys for Joe Flacco to throw the ball to after two seconds in his drop back. And if he continues to see that type of target volume, he'll be okay for fantasy. Kind of has the same floor as Juwan Johnson. Maybe not the same type of ceiling and is certainly more of a short term option, but I think you've got to consider him. If the Bengals are playing without Jamar Chase, those targets do have to go elsewhere. I do think Yoshivas is in play, but I don't mind Noah fans if you're scrambling a tight end and he's out there in 82% of leagues.
Adam Azer
So Schultz with the man I've been trying to think of an analogy here and I can't think of anything but starting a tight end against the Bills is like starting a blank again. Starting a quarterback against the 85 Bears that's the Bills are so good against tight ends it's insane. I think only Kelsey has had more than four targets. Maybe odd.
Dave Richard
That's correct. Four or five and it was five targets.
Adam Azer
Yeah. Kelsey's the only one who's had double digit points.
Dave Richard
The argument for Schultz is going to be the same argument that I had for Kate Otten last week and it clearly did not work out for Kate Otten. It was it it's not a function of the matchup. It's a function of the offense. And that what does Davis Mills do a lot and that's throw underneath the Dalton Schultz. And I thought the Bucks were going to do that a lot. Part of the reason why they didn't was because they were able to run the ball so well. So the same thing could happen in Houston. I suppose. I don't think the running backs in Houston are as good as the running backs in Tampa. But I still think Dalton Schultz can get you to 10 PPR points this week.
Jamie Eisenberg
I would take the under but I would still pick him up. Okay.
Dave Richard
It's right. And Juwan is not just a this week play. It's a rest of season play.
Jamie Eisenberg
So Schultz but I I think just.
Dave Richard
More so than now. Noah Fan Yes.
Jamie Eisenberg
What you're looking at for Schultz is clearly he's rostered in a lot of leagues so it's it's more the shallow leagues on our site. I think you just want to make sure you have the ability to start him rest of season. Yeah.
Adam Azer
Okay. So by the way if you want a little breakdown of Nico Collins with C.J. stroud versus with Davis Mills some interesting numbers check out beyond the box score yesterday. You can just look at the time codes. It's pretty late in the episode but if you're curious about that we we dug in. Jamie give us a DST to stream this week.
Jamie Eisenberg
So the best one it just meets the threshold but should be very good is the Browns 65 roster taking on the Raiders. They did a great job against Lamar Jackson and the Ravens last week. Clearly one of the best defenses despite their poor record. And Miles Garrett is having a historical season so he should make things very uncomfortable for Dino Smith. But there's some good options this week. You know Daniel Jones has struggled on the road and the Chiefs coming off of a loss. So I think they're home. Right.
Dave Richard
The Chiefs are at home.
Jamie Eisenberg
The Chiefs are home. Yeah. So Daniel Jones, not the best spot for him. So I could see him turn the ball over a little bit. Raiders get Chador Sanders and Max Crosby should make life uncomfortable for him. Jaguars. We've seen Jacoby Brissette play great, but we've also seen four turnovers in the last two weeks. And so they did a great job obviously against the the Chargers last week. These are more low end options. The last two, the Jaguars and the Saints. But the Saints get Kirk Cousins without Drake London and Cousins has not looked good coming off a buy. Could be a fun week for the Saints DST this week.
Adam Azer
I just want to see where the Jaguars DST ranks overall because I've been sort of surprised. They've had a lot of really good.
Jamie Eisenberg
Games early in the season. They were great.
Adam Azer
Yeah, yeah, they. And Brissette takes a lot of sacks now. He didn't take any sacks last week because the 49ers can't sack anyone. But before that, 16 sacks in his last his previous three games. The Jaguars are what I'm looking at. They're the number seven DST in our fantasy football today league which is has kind of standard CBS scoring. It'll obviously be different in your leagues, but the Jaguars have been pretty good a number of times this year, including the last two weeks. So that's a, that's an interesting play. There's just. Hold on. There's one DST that has a good schedule going forward, not just this week. I think it's the Jaguars. Oh yeah, yeah, it is. It's. The Jaguars are at Arizona, which may not seem great and it may not be, but again this, the sacks Tennessee, they're the best matchup on the road. Then the Colts we just talked about, they've been turning it over. Then the Jets. So Jacksonville's next four games at Arizona, at Tennessee, Indianapolis jets kickers Jamie Harrison.
Jamie Eisenberg
Bucker in his building against the Colts. Jake Elliot against the Cowboys. They give up a lot of fantasy points of kickers. Mike Badgley coming back from his bye week, he's been pretty solid. And then the Cardinals top five, I believe in fantasy points allowed to the position. So Cam Little, you know, favorable environment as well. Yep.
Adam Azer
Okay. And the IDP name I gave was again Curtis Robinson, linebacker for the 49ers.
Jamie Eisenberg
Just put in a four dollar bid for him. There you go.
Adam Azer
I'm pretty much out of that league.
Jamie Eisenberg
Oh, so am I. Keith and I were fighting for whoever's gonna finish last last night I, I won in another one that was close to tie him at 4 and 7.
Adam Azer
Yeah, I'm 4 and 7 also in that league. I see CBS not representing in the IDP league so well this year.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah.
Adam Azer
So email of the day is from Randy.
Jamie Eisenberg
Playing against two of the best IDP people in the industry. Smart.
Adam Azer
And they're both doing well, right?
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah, they always do.
Adam Azer
Yeah. All right. Email of the day is from Randy. I'm a longtime fantasy football player, more than 20 years of experience. Wants to know what's the etiquette for the waiver wire when you're out of contention? Is there any etiquette for the waiver wire when you're out of contention?
Dave Richard
When you're out of contention, that shouldn't matter. When it comes to the waiver wire, you're still playing. It's not like you're kicked out of the league just because you've got nine losses and you've had a pathetic year. But you're still entitled to go after players on the waiver wire.
Adam Azer
You do whatever you want. But also if you don't want to go after players on the waiver wire, I understand that, too, which is why I don't. Which is why I kind of like having players who have late bye weeks. Because I figure at that point, three or four managers in my league are probably just giving up and not even making waiver claims anymore. And it's going to be easier for me to get the guys I want now.
Jamie Eisenberg
What. What I will say your potential record.
Adam Azer
No, I don't draft it that way. I just. I don't mind. Some people don't like having guys with late bye weeks. I would prefer it, but it's not really a. It's not a factor for me.
Dave Richard
Yeah, but you don't go out of your way looking for that. That might be a tiebreaker between two players when you're drafting your team, but that's about it. Now, what about this? There's a pathetic team with eight or eight losses, nine losses, and they want to make trades before the trade deadline. Even if they're not mathematically eliminated. I think you've got to let them do it as long as it's not egregious. But I think once you are mathematically eliminated from a playoff spot, you shouldn't be allowed to make trades.
Adam Azer
I was just about to bring that up because someone in the chat had that very same question. And that is the fantasy cops have stated that mathematically eliminated team cannot make trades. We cannot let that happen. That is worthy of a veto. Don't do it. All right, we'll be right back to talk about this in redraft, of course.
Dave Richard
Dynasty keeper leagues. You're never. You're never out of it in a dynasty keeper league.
Adam Azer
I didn't post this. Get this out of here. All right.
Jamie Eisenberg
So this is when people think that Johnny is really Thomas.
Dave Richard
Oh, man.
Adam Azer
It is compelling evidence. All right. All right, we'll be right back with shadow leagues, deep leagues and more on fantasy football today.
Jamie Eisenberg
You know, now that I'm thinking about it, you know we have Johnny in one of the super leftover leagues. And you know who got me his email address? Yeah, Thomas.
Adam Azer
Right, Exactly.
Jamie Eisenberg
Thomas.
Adam Azer
Thomas Schaefer2@whatever.com. yeah, let's just have a Johnny's airport.
Dave Richard
He just posted. Dave will pick up your waiver wire target and then put them in his IR until Sunday at 12:30.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yes, Dave, we just showed that.
Dave Richard
Oh, I. I wasn't looking. I didn't know that.
Jamie Eisenberg
That's.
Dave Richard
No, I wasn't watching the stream, so everybody saw that comment. That does sound like something that I might have done at one point. I don't think a rando would have known that, but Thomas would have.
Adam Azer
Johnny says I'm a person. Really? I swear, Thomas says that every morning right before the show starts. All right, so Jamie Shallowly, guys, you know, we the guys who are rostered in more than 65% of leagues. If there are a few prizes out there, who are they?
Jamie Eisenberg
You want position, you want the prizes first?
Adam Azer
I want the prizes. I want the headliners. That definitely we need to get them.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah, there's two for me. One would be, I guess three if you want to say Trey Benson maybe plays this week, but you know, I'll say four. Forget it. So the first one would be Brock Purdy. Coming off a strong game. I think he plays well again against Carolina. Not the easiest of schedules, moving forward slides, bye week. But you know what he's capable of when he's healthy at running back. We'll say Trey Benson because if he does get the opportunity to return this week, he. He could immediately become an top 20 running back or at least an RB2 at wide receiver would be. Alec Pierce went into his buy playing very well. Three of his last four games over 14 PPR points. Last two were amazing. And I think we're gonna see a lot more throwing from the Colts because of some of the schedule and maybe shootouts that we're gonna see. And then the fourth would be Kyle Pitts. Last time we saw him in this exact spot with Kirk Cousins without Drake London. He had nine catches and so clearly having a little bit of a struggling stretch. But I think it's easy to say he's the best pass catcher without Drake London there who's going to be week to week. So Kyle Pitts being must rostered and must start player this week.
Adam Azer
Okay, would you pick up Trey Benson or Kenneth Gamble? Emmanuel Wilson.
Jamie Eisenberg
I think it comes down to what you need, clearly because if you are stuck this week, you need the guaranteed points and if One of those two guys starts, they're both ranked in my top 17 running backs for this week. Gainwell is a top 12 guy and Wilson, you know, solid number two running back. Benson will probably be, I would say ahead of Wilson, behind Gainwell. If you tell me all three are.
Adam Azer
Starting, would you pick up Alec Pierce or Michael Wilson? Wilson, would you pick up Brock Purdy or Jacoby Brissette?
Jamie Eisenberg
I would probably go with Brissette simply because past is bye week already and you get that next two weeks of just great schedule.
Adam Azer
Would you pick up Kyle Pitts or Juwan Johnson?
Jamie Eisenberg
I would pick up Kyle Pitts.
Adam Azer
That's a tough one, Dave. Kyle Pitts or Juwan Johnson?
Dave Richard
Juwan Johnson.
Adam Azer
Okay, but yeah, Pitts is. Pitts is tempting. And what, what about Hunter Henry?
Dave Richard
He's been tempting for four years.
Adam Azer
No, but he's got no London here. Jamie just.
Dave Richard
I get it, I get it. No, no, it's a fair case to make for him, but eventually London will come back and that'll mean week to week.
Jamie Eisenberg
We have no idea.
Adam Azer
Week to week. I was really into.
Dave Richard
London would come back. I don't think Penix is coming back and I don't really love the passing offense with Kirk Cousins, so I do know what I've got in Juwan Johnson.
Adam Azer
Doesn't it feel like the season's almost over, but there's actually so much season left in the NFL. You know, the fantasy playoffs are approaching, but there's like seven or eight games left for these teams, right?
Dave Richard
I mean, best part of this, best part of the NFL season's coming up.
Adam Azer
Not a game with. We're in week 12. So seven, seven weeks of football left.
Jamie Eisenberg
But it's really weird. Like when I look at the guillotine leagues and you see five teams, six teams.
Adam Azer
Yeah.
Dave Richard
Yeah.
Adam Azer
All right, Dave, what are we doing talking about these guys? Brock Purdy. None of these guys are available in my league, dumbass. What? Who's in the deep leagues?
Dave Richard
Bryce Young at quarterback is available in 77 of leagues. I know that we're a little bit worried about whether or not he'll play. I'm hoping he plays. I think he should play. 49ers have allowed almost 24 fantasy points to six of the past seven quarterbacks. Just look at what the last two, three, four, four quarterbacks have done against the 49ers as their defense continues to get depleted. But 77, hey, that might not even be deep enough. So Davis Mills, Jameis Winston, even Tyler Shuck against Atlanta would be of interest this week. And it could get worse than that with Mason Rudolph, cousins to Rod Taylor. But there are plenty of quarterbacks that are out there. And if you talk about two QB leagues, yes, Shadur Sanders would be an option for those.
Adam Azer
Who's your favorite? Sorry? Who's your favorite of all these?
Dave Richard
New Bryce Young and then Davis Mills, assuming that Stroud is out, which at this point I think it's kind of a safe assumption.
Jamie Eisenberg
Okay.
Adam Azer
Okay. What? So but of the Mason Taylor or.
Dave Richard
Sorry, Mason Taylor, he doesn't play quarterback in my league.
Adam Azer
Mason Rudolph, Tyrod Taylor, Shadur Sanders.
Dave Richard
Chuck would be at the top of the list.
Jamie Eisenberg
Who?
Dave Richard
Tyler Shuck.
Adam Azer
Tyler Shuck. Okay, okay. Sorry about that.
Dave Richard
Especially since like if you're in a super flex league, he might be able to give you multiple starts.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah.
Dave Richard
Mason Rudolph, we don't know how long he's going to be the starter for Pittsburgh. 4. It might not even be one week. Okay. Emmanuel Wilson's out there in 70 of leagues. Everyone's going after him. Chris Rodriguez is available in 82% of CBS leagues. So as long as you don't need a running back desperately this week he would be the next guy would go after in those deep leagues. Other guys that are out there and this is very gross but it's Keaton Mitchell, Ty Johnson, Michael Carter, Chris Brooks, they're all available in 90 plus of CBS leagues. But obviously you'd go after Wilson and Rodriguez if you could. Wide receivers that are available. This list isn't great either. It's Greg Dorch at 98 available. Mac Holland, 79 available. Luther Burden is still out there in 76 of leagues.
Jamie Eisenberg
Adam.
Dave Richard
And we talked about him as a good stash last Thursday and I think he can still be okay.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah.
Adam Azer
Yeah.
Dave Richard
Jaden Higgins, 80 available. He's not bad. And then Jamie's guy, Yoshivas, 98 available. So on those deep leagues he could actually be like a one week hero for you.
Jamie Eisenberg
Potentially.
Adam Azer
He'd be a one week hero.
Jamie Eisenberg
God.
Dave Richard
PBR in his eyes. I don't know why they'd Be in his eyes. Probably be in his hands or in his stat page or anything like that. Yes.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah.
Adam Azer
Okay. I'm sorry for using that word earlier. I should stop doing that. It's like two shows in a row.
Dave Richard
You know, cursing is very humming.
Adam Azer
Don't say it is so.
Jamie Eisenberg
Don't say what?
Adam Azer
Nothing. Back to the shallow leagues real quick, Jamie. Joe Burrow, if you were out there, I went back and I listened to the press conference and he was asked if the record would matter in terms of bringing him back. And he just kept giving the same answer. Yeah, he kept saying, yeah, we'll just see. We'll just take it week by week, basically. We'll just see how it goes, whatever.
Jamie Eisenberg
But.
Adam Azer
But I, you know, they are a three win team. But Joe Burrow, even if you couldn't use an IR spot, how big of a priority is he right now?
Jamie Eisenberg
He's. He's up there. You know, clearly we're one week away, so I mean, if you get the opportunity to stash what could be a league winner, you should clearly do so. Yeah.
Adam Azer
Okay. Dallas 33, Las Vegas 26. Let's go through this one quickly here and we will get back into the waiver wire. But Dave, any major takeaways from this game?
Dave Richard
Cowboys good, Raiders bad.
Adam Azer
Javante Argente, rest of season.
Dave Richard
Javante.
Jamie Eisenberg
Javante. And just in that vein for Deeply guys, Malik Davis is now the handcuff to Javante Williams if you want to stash him as we're seeing now with some of these running back injuries. And another Deeply guy would be Jaleel McLaughlin just because of. He's the next man up in Denver if something happens to Harvey.
Adam Azer
I gotta say, with Javante, I'm getting a little frustrated. He is the worst receiving running back in the NFL in terms of running backs with efficiency, 25 or more targets. He is dead last in yards per out run, 0.38. It's. It's unbelievable. And he has a lot of these games, whereas 1 catch for 0 yards, 1 catch for 3 yards, or he does absolutely nothing with his catches. You know, you asked me, Kyren Williams vs. Javante Williams on Sunday. It's tough for me. I feel like Javante is definitely going to get more carries, but I'm. I don't know why. I'm kind of losing some faith in him. Is anybody else feeling that way? Am I just being silly? He just. He needs to score, obviously, and they're on a good offense, but I don't know.
Jamie Eisenberg
Dave, you called when we hit a lull like this for a guy like Javante Williams or a guy like DeAndre Swift, where you see the potential and you see the touches and you're, you know, wanting more and just not getting it. It's just the nature of some of these games and sometimes just how, you know, the. The lack of touchdowns or lack of, you know, receptions go at times and, you know, you don't want to label these guys in particular trapbacks, but they have that, you know, sometimes those performances, and I think that's just one of them for Javante. You're not sitting him, you know, unless you're just completely loaded on your roster, but, you know, you want to see him. It's funny, you go back to this because it's Eagles week. You go back to week one, he was miserable in that game, but he scored twice, right? You know, and it was like, oh, is this sustainable? He's going to be the guy. You know, we had so many questions after that, that matchup, and then now he's getting all this work and not scoring. It's like, come on. So I think you just have to treat him what he is. You know, he's just a good number two running back.
Adam Azer
If you have Jake Ferguson, he's been getting by, right? He had five targets, 16 yards and a touchdown, four catches. Been getting by since Lamb came back. Three or four games have been fine, one been great. Are you picking up Joanne Johnson or are you just riding it out with Ferguson? I'm saying. I'm not saying drop Ferguson. I'm saying give yourself a second option.
Jamie Eisenberg
If you can carry two tight ends, it's not a bad idea. I mean, same thing with Dalton Schultz, you know, I mean, you're looking at guys that are outperforming him, getting more targets than him. I'm. I'm sure there's going to be a Jake Ferguson week here at some point. You know, maybe this week against the Eagles. May not be. They're really good against tight ends. So I think you treat him. You treat this as kind of like what we said about the 49ers over the last several years. You know, there's just going to be somebody that maybe doesn't have the big game or gets left out and you just have to. Or the Lions last year, you know, for example, you know, you're just starting these guys with the hope of, okay, at least he falls in the end zone, or at least he maybe gets a four or five catch game. So you just have to realize Ferguson not the same. Same caliber of player. Now that Everybody's healthy.
Dave Richard
But if he's seeing a downtick in targets and that could be in line with what Juwan Johnson gets from week to week, you can make the case that Juwan Johnson's a little bit more explosive than Ferguson. I've always read Ferguson as a red zone weapon and a damn good one that Dak Prescott likes to lean on. There was sort of an example of that, I would say against the Raiders. By the way, when I say Raiders bad, it doesn't mean like run away from all the Raiders. It's great that BROCK Bowers had 12 targets and he, you're not dissatisfied with what he did in fantasy and Trey Tucker came through if you started him as a boom bus flex. But you've, you've got to be concerned about Genty and, and really every, you have to be concerned literally about everybody except Tucker. Tucker is in a must start for the rest of the way.
Adam Azer
Tucker, first of all, it's good that Genti's been so involved in the passing game lately. That's really, that's huge for him. But for Tucker, 83% roster, 54% started. He goes four catches, 47 yards and a touchdown on eight targets. In a game where Geno Smith threw 42 passes. How many? Who would you. Let's say you had Trey Tucker, he was a wide receiver. Three or a flex for you. Would you drop him for any of the current waiver wire wide receivers?
Jamie Eisenberg
I mean, Michael Wilson in a second. You know, the other guys, I think they're all, it's, it's the same conversation we've had every Tuesday. There's been this guy that has popped up. Big game hasn't been consistent. It's, it's just, I think the nature of what it is now this is two games into the, the new receiving core without Jacoby Myers. And I like I, I was excited about Tucker in last night's game because I thought the run defense was going to be much better for the Cowboys. In the past, defense was still struggle a little bit. So you got lucky I think with the touchdown for him. You, you there, there has to be some conversations happening in Las Vegas about a quarterback change. Dino Smith does not perform playing very well. So do they give Aiden o' Connell a chance when he's healthy? Do they go to Kenny Pickett? You know, what's the, what's the situation that they're looking at here? Because this team, this season's lost. I think just in the case of Tucker, you got to treat him as a low and Number three receiver. So if you want to take the upside, let's say vacation booty. You want to take the upside over Christian Watson. You want to take the upside on a one week situation of what Yoshibash can be. You know, I, I can certainly see Trey Tucker hitting the waiver wire even after scoring a touchdown. I think you just kind of sort of write it out. Their schedule is brutal. I mean their passing schedules is just absolutely miserable.
Dave Richard
True.
Jamie Eisenberg
You know, moving forward and so yeah. Geez, you know, you know how much you're gonna trust a guy that's been so big play dependent on a team that's, you know, finding ways not to do it. And his best games have come when Brock Bowers was either hurt or less than 100.
Adam Azer
Oh, that's a great call on the schedule. We'll just wrap it up there. But yeah, if you have Tucker, Cleveland at the Chargers, Denver at Philadelphia at Houston. That's their next five games.
Dave Richard
Terrible.
Adam Azer
That's bad. All right, let's go to the drop o meter here. 0 to 10. 0. No way am I dropping this guy 10. He shouldn't even be playing football. He should retire Dallas Goddard. No, not that bad. But you get it. Dallas Goddard 03, Caleb Williams 0. So this is. I just want to point out this guy's schedule I don't like and he's got a lot of cold weather games. So have another guy.
Jamie Eisenberg
Bears quarterback is cold weather games. No way.
Adam Azer
Yeah, but it's not just their home games. You know, it's the road games too. Except they're mostly at. But was Pittsburgh at Philadelphia at Green Bay, Cleveland, Green Bay. That's their next five games. For Caleb at San Francisco, week 17 could be great. But I've been, I said it last week as a Caleb, I'm nervous about him and I want to have another quarterback on my team pick up somebody else.
Jamie Eisenberg
But I wouldn't, I wouldn't necessarily be dropping him.
Adam Azer
Yeah, yeah. Sam Darnold.
Dave Richard
You can. He's droppable. Let's give him a five on the dropometer.
Jamie Eisenberg
It does get Tennessee this week though. I want to see one week with him in a good matchup because the last, you know, we I think overlooked once again that. Not sure how they do it but Arizona just keeps quarterbacks in check and then had to go play the Rams. And so this, this feels like an easy get, get right game for Sam Darnold.
Adam Azer
Quentin Johnston 028. What are we talking about here? He's got zero points in two of his last four games.
Dave Richard
He's droppable, but he also can work.
Jamie Eisenberg
He.
Dave Richard
Is he not in that same conversation as Trey Tucker?
Adam Azer
All right. I shouldn't have said eight. I think he's four. I'm going to drop him in a 10 team league. I have to, you know, I have Jamar Chase. I'm desperate so I have to drop someone.
Dave Richard
I get it. He's droppable for sure. How about Keenan Allen is also droppable for sure. And more so than Quentin Johnston. I'd go four on Keenan Allen.
Adam Azer
Tez Johnson, zero.
Dave Richard
Yeah, two. Same as Quentin Johnston.
Adam Azer
Tess Johnson or Michael Wilson.
Dave Richard
If you need somebody, it's Wilson you're.
Jamie Eisenberg
Talking about like a potential savior for a week.
Adam Azer
All right, so Tez Johnson or Christian Watson.
Jamie Eisenberg
I, I probably would lean Watson just because God was coming back, but right again, you're talking about a guy that's what, 82 roster versus the guy that's 65 roster. Like they're so close.
Dave Richard
And if you're in a smaller league and Alec Pierce is there, you should be dropping these guys.
Adam Azer
Rashid Shahid, 6.
Jamie Eisenberg
I want to give it one more week against this defense.
Adam Azer
Ricky Pierso.
Jamie Eisenberg
I don't want to judge him based on one week.
Dave Richard
Correct.
Jamie Eisenberg
All right.
Adam Azer
To the waiver wire. Sam does.
Jamie Eisenberg
Now, all the guys you said are certainly fringe. Droppable in 10 team weeks. Without a doubt. 10 team leaves are a different animal. But 12 team leagues, like if I see Quentin Johnson on waivers and I'm, you know, debating between him or a one week Yoshi Vas, and I'm not starting either one, I'm picking up Johnson 100.
Adam Azer
Yeah, yeah. Just. I know there are managers that are desperate right now, so it's, you know, it's go. It's win time. So shallow league quarterbacks. Sam Darnold, Joe Burrow, Brock Purdy, Joe Flacco, two Bengals quarterbacks in there, obviously. Who do you think will be better rest that you're just taking a rest of season shot? Purdy or Burrow?
Jamie Eisenberg
Burrow.
Dave Richard
Assuming that Burrow actually plays. Yes, Burrow.
Adam Azer
Right. There's that. That if. Of course.
Dave Richard
Right. I still think it's going to happen. But if they lose again this week, who knows?
Adam Azer
Would you drop Darnold for Brissette?
Dave Richard
Yes.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah. All right.
Adam Azer
James Winston was number two on this list. We'll see if he plays. Obviously, you know, we're hoping for Jackson Dart to come back. Detroit's defense has been much better lately for sure. And Bryce Young, we don't know if he's going to play, but the 49ers, they've allowed 25.7 or more fantasy points to four straight quarterbacks. That would be Dart, Stafford, Brissette and Stroud. So we'll see what Bryce Young can do for an.
Jamie Eisenberg
It's just like will he throw the ball? Because his two previous games, he was absolutely atrocious whole season. Well, yeah, three games over 20 fantasy points, but yes, but the two previous games like this came out of nowhere.
Dave Richard
So I would be encouraged that he will have to throw because the 49ers are going to put up points. Their offense is rolling and so if they're putting up points, that's going to force Bryce Young into throwing more than 32 times.
Jamie Eisenberg
I don't, I don't disagree. But this could also be a Rico Dowel game because their run defense is equally atrocious.
Adam Azer
How do you feel about Flacco? How do you feel about Flacco this week against the Patriots who really have not been that good against quarterbacks, at least any good quarterback?
Jamie Eisenberg
He's still alone number one quarterback for me.
Dave Richard
Yeah, you know, I agree and I, I wasn't, I didn't share that sentiment on Sunday, but obviously it changes with Jamar Chase not there. But he's still going to throw the ball a lot and it could be, it could be a lot of dinking and dunking until he sees like opportunities like he did for the T. Higgins touchdown. I agree that he's a low end starter this week.
Jamie Eisenberg
I didn't think what happened Sunday would happen to him. But if you recall what I said to you, his home road splits. He's 28 plus points at home.
Adam Azer
Well, look, we had the worst quarterback week of the year. We had six quarterbacks score 20 or more fantasy points most weeks. We have close to 15 and there was such bad weather in the northeast and pretty much all of those quarterbacks except Josh Allen who had three rushing touchdowns, really stunk it up. So I really, I think that has to had to have been a factor. It just seems like a major coincidence if it wasn't a factor. All right, two quarterback league guys. Mason Rudolph, we'll see if he's the starter. At Chicago, they're 27th against quarterbacks Kirk Cousins against New Orleans, Davis Mills against the Bills. Ooh, rhymed. That defense kills Tyrod Taylor at Baltimore and Shader Sanders at the Raiders. Dave, you said Davis Mills is your favorite.
Dave Richard
There he is.
Adam Azer
Jamie, who's your favorite of Rudolph, Cousins, Mills, Taylor, Sanders, Rudolph, Trevor Lawrence, you.
Jamie Eisenberg
Want to start Davis Mills against the Bills?
Adam Azer
Trevor Lawrence, what do you think about him at Arizona?
Jamie Eisenberg
I don't want to start Trevor Lawrence. Okay, agreed.
Adam Azer
Arizona. Yeah. They have been really good until last week and you wonder if the injuries are taking a toll on them.
Jamie Eisenberg
But, but even so, it was 200 passing yards and three touchdowns.
Adam Azer
So I'm just hoping if. If he gets Brian Thomas and Brenton Strange back and has obviously no Travis Hunter but his full arsenal. Do we see 20 points from Trevor Lawrence?
Jamie Eisenberg
I don't know. It wouldn't. It wouldn't shock me if he's at that threshold, but I think that's the ceiling for him.
Adam Azer
Yeah, he doesn't seem to have a lot of high ceilings. Okay. Shallow league running backs are Trey Benson and Tyler Algier. Tyler Alger out New Orleans. You know, maybe they're playing with a lead. You know, you never know.
Jamie Eisenberg
Oh, we're gonna see a lot of running from the Falcons.
Adam Azer
We've talked a lot about Gainwell and.
Jamie Eisenberg
Will and I wouldn't be surprised I. If we see a lot of Bijan split out too. Sure.
Adam Azer
Gainwell and Wilson are obviously two huge priorities. However, how. How will they even be starters this week?
Jamie Eisenberg
If you really want to skip to the one that's most likely starting and for me he may be third right now he's fourth. It's not of a night. He's 50% rostered and we know no di Mercado. I don't even know if they open the 21 day window for Benson, if he even plays this week. You know, they may just give him a week to practice in full. So he's the. Maybe the safest of the bunch. If you want to say Tucker's gonna get Bucky Irving back and have no role, it could just be. That's the one you want to pivot to. The. The, the, the cheapest and maybe safest.
Adam Azer
It's a great point. Donovan Knight could be a.
Jamie Eisenberg
And not an easy matchup, but they just find a way. I think it's the every game since Benson went out, which was week five against Seattle. So even if you want to throw that game in. So that's the first game without James Connor. So week five on at least one running back and it's been multiple but at least one running back has got you 9.4 PPR points or more.
Adam Azer
Wow.
Jamie Eisenberg
Of that group. So it was Carter, it was D. Mercado. It was. It was the first game with Benson. He got over 10 and it was. It was not a midnight in some cases. There have been two guys doing that So I, I keep saying this since the James Connor era. It just feels like running back for Cardinals in number two running back range almost on a week to week basis.
Adam Azer
If Bucky Irving does not play this week, where do you think you'll rank Sean Tucker at the Rams?
Jamie Eisenberg
We are not ranking Buck Irving yet. So I put in like 23 or 24. I forget where it was like not an easy matchup. But I, I am curious, you know, just reading some of the, the beat writers stuff coming off the game. Like they think this is going to be a more of a split than it was pre Bucky Irving injury with Tucker replacing Rashad White because of, I mean granted it's inflated. They've mentioned the Saints game, there's the Bills game. He averages over five yards per carry, but it's not like every week he's over five yards per carry. You know he has an eight yard per carry game. You know, just based on one. He gets these monster performances but he's so explosive. Like I don't understand why they would not give him more touches and more chances. And honestly I was hoping this offseason that he was going to leave because I wanted to see maybe if he got a chance to compete to be a starter. We knew that just wasn't going to be the case. But would be, would be interesting to see if, if he does take a little bit more of a foothold of his backfield with Irving there, especially first game back for Bucky. I think he could still be a flex so I wouldn't necessarily run away from him.
Dave Richard
I agree. Flex at minimum.
Adam Azer
Chris Rodriguez, unfortunately he doesn't have a great schedule because he's got a buy and then Denver and then Minnesota, they're kind of hit or miss.
Jamie Eisenberg
So no work in the past game. He's. He's the definition of a trap back.
Adam Azer
Yeah, but at least that's not true.
Dave Richard
He works at the goal.
Adam Azer
Yeah, at least he's the goal line.
Jamie Eisenberg
No, no, no. I mean he'll score touchdowns, but if he doesn't score, you're not getting anything.
Adam Azer
Yeah, right. I was so regretful of not starting him because he had a good game, but he didn't really have that good of a fantasy game. But if I had started him, I think it would have won. Is interesting. You know, it's weird. I don't really see myself picking up facial Tootin. I don't know what to make of this. There's no way ETN is just going away. But what are we thinking about him?
Jamie Eisenberg
Dave?
Dave Richard
I think that he's gonna work into the run game more. I think we saw evidence of that on Sunday and he's going to continue to work in the run game. I don't think he's nearly as polished as ETN and maybe he'll get some targets but not as maybe we're talking like two and ETN will get more. But this might be where Jacksonville tries to go with their offense and to take pressure off of Trevor and it made sense for them to do it last week A because the game script but also B because of what was left at wide receiver for him in that game. I, I think if Jacksonville builds a lead, you're going to see a lot of Tootin, you're going to see a lot of etn. He's somebody that I like having on my bench and if anything happens to etn, we've been saying that since August when it comes to Basial Tootin too. But at least now you're getting, you know, what do you want to put the floor at here? 9, 10 touches on a week to week. So that's what you're hoping for with him. Not the priority by any stretch, but somebody that I don't mind putting my second or third waiver claim in for.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah, it's basically Blake Quorum 2.0.
Adam Azer
Yeah. Because he, he gets the goal line. He gets some goal line work too. And Arizona is a great matchup. They have been really struggling against running backs. So I should take that back. I, I will put in some claims for, for Basil Tootin. His question is who do we drop? And then there's Devin Singletary too, by the way. Devin Singletary, the goal line back for the Giants. It seems Julio McLaughlin is another option.
Dave Richard
Yeah, and it's nice with Singletary because he is a rest of season option. But when Jackson Dark comes back like that's another guy who can work at the goal line potentially for New York and that would take away some value from Devin Single. No one's excited to add Devin Singletary.
Adam Azer
So if you have Brian Robinson Jr. Or Blake Coram with some other high end handcuffs that people might have.
Jamie Eisenberg
You.
Adam Azer
Know that you don't start ever. But you have them for one reason. Zach Charbonnet maybe, I don't know, he's startable. But do you drop them for, for Basal tooting for Chris Rodriguez or Naida or Tucker, you know, what do we do with, with guys like that with those high end handcuffs?
Jamie Eisenberg
Are you carrying your own handcuff or are you carrying somebody else's handcuff say, your own handcuff. So I think if you just trust the backfield, then you're going to probably stick with your handcuffs. So in the case of, like, if you're looking to pick up Bashel Tootin, right, who needs a Travis ETN injury to start him, unless you're just desperate versus you're the Christian McCaffrey manager and you're carrying Brian Robinson. If you tell me right now both guys are in their starting roles, I'm almost certainly going to rank and start Brian Robinson over Basil Tootin. As much upside as Tootin may have, the 49ers running back situation is just so tried and true, so they'll be close, but I would lean Robinson just because of what I feel like. Mike Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan, even Mike Shan, what the Shanahan system is, you know, done for running backs over the year. So I think it comes down to, you know, just what you're looking at now. If you're talking about you're not the McCaffrey manager and you're carrying Brian Robinson versus maybe picking up Basil Tootin, who could be a flex or also has the same upside, then that comes down to what you really think you want to value rest of season because you could have two backfields. You know, you could have whoever your starter is, plus that guy. So, like, I know I have one league. I think I mentioned this before. My running back situation has been terrible all season, but I sort of found my way into both Bears and both Steelers, and so now I'm covered in this emergency situation. You know, it's. It's not great because, you know, I. I don't have a legitimate number one running back. My team is based on receivers, tight end, quarterback. But this is where I am. And I just sort of lock that up. And I'm gonna say, okay, passerby weeks, hopefully Swift is fine. Now I see I have, you know, maybe game mode for a week. You know, you just don't want to get these weeks where they're, you know, messing with each other. Like, we've gotten a little bit with the Bears, okay.
Adam Azer
If you're in a PPR league and you want seven to nine fantasy points, Taj Spears gets you that every single week. He's 71 rosters. He's not exactly super available.
Jamie Eisenberg
That team is fascinating this week in the worst way. Tennessee, because they have no receivers.
Dave Richard
Tennessee, they have Van Jefferson, sir.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah, I mean, I listened to Mike McCoy yesterday, and the. There was about four or five questions about your boy Restrepo Yeah. All right.
Adam Azer
Yeah. So all right, let's. Let's move forward then to wide receiver and tight end and, and all right. The shallow league wide receivers. Jacoby Myers, he had look, he's getting a decent role. If Thomas isn't back, he's facing Arizona. Jacoby Myers, 83 roster though. Ricky Piersol, we want to see another before we drop him. Alec Pierce was the guy that Jamie highlighted as the best of this bunch, this shallow league bunch. And Chris Godwin. Then you've got Michael Wilson who's going to be a major priority facing Jacksonville this week. Who's. I don't know. I'm not even gonna look at the matchup. Cause the role is just so good. But basically the only guys who have done really well against Jacksonville are studs Chase jsn, Nico twice and Devonte Adams. But still we're gonna.
Jamie Eisenberg
I think you just want to look at. If you just want to look at the raw numbers. Jacoby Brissette has made five starts, three of them he's been 44 pass attempts or more. Yeah. In the last two games before the appendix for Marvin Harrison, it was a 10 target game and a 12 target game. And then we get this 57 pass attempt game where 18 targets go to Michael Wilson. Like the volume is just too hard to overlook.
Adam Azer
Of course.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah.
Adam Azer
And then there's Christian Watson. The volume is also hard to overlook because it's so low. Four to five targets every game. But you know, he's been fairly productive. Andre Yoshevis, third for Jamie. Top 36 guy this week.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah.
Adam Azer
Dave, no K Sean Booty. We're expecting him back against the Bengals at Cincinnati. Then there's Parker Washington, there's Darnell Mooney. Why should I take K Sean Booty over Darnell Mooney? Jamie.
Jamie Eisenberg
Because you're snooty. I, I think you go with with Booty because of the quarterback he plays in and what we've seen from him. I mean, Darnold Mooney's yet to get a touch that score touchdown yet to, you know, scored 10 PPR points. And it's not like he has an opportunities. He has at least seven targets each to the last two weeks. And I know it was sort of a huge surprise how it all unfolded that Dolphins game. But this was again the same setup. No Drake London, Kirk Cousins starting. Clearly Cousins was better for Mooney last year than what Penix has been for Mooney this year. He's been, you know, one of the bigger disappointments from the lower end receiver scale. But it's just opportunity. You know, the hope would be is that he gets another 78 target game. It is a Saints defense that obviously a struggle for the majority of the season. So not a bad stash if you don't need to start. Maybe need to start type of guy just because of the opportunity that's in front of him.
Dave Richard
Does it feel like his ceiling is 10 ppr points?
Jamie Eisenberg
No, I think his ceiling's higher than that. We saw it last year. You know, he had a solid season with Cousins, but it's just Cousins looks like a shell of himself and Mooney.
Dave Richard
Yeah.
Jamie Eisenberg
Perform well. So I would take the over on the ceiling, but I get your point. You know, it's not a lot of. There shouldn't be a lot of optimism in regards to where Mooney is.
Dave Richard
Okay.
Adam Azer
Yeah, I can just see if Darno Mooney has a good game. He's going to be the number one waiver wire wide receiver next week because oh, London's out. Cousins is look good or something like.
Dave Richard
I get the Jets.
Adam Azer
Yeah, I could see that scenario.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah. Listen, if like you said you're in in a tough spot because of Quentin Johnston and whatever else, you're right. Like, you know, you're grasping at straws here and so you always want to look at. Okay, who has opportunities and when you just lay out opportunities, his is among the best on the table.
Adam Azer
Yes, it is. All right. Jaden Higgins is coming on lately. He's got seven targets in two straight games. We just hate the fact that they're playing Buffalo. They don't do. They do not give up points to number two wide receivers very often. Tyrell Shavers had that big game for the Bills. That's a deep league guy. And then Jalen Coker, you mentioned league. Oh, I don't think we talked about that. Xavier Legate bang. Yeah. Niners have been pretty horrible against wide receivers.
Jamie Eisenberg
If we're expecting Bryce Young to throw more. Leguette has a hip injury, he left in the fourth quarter, didn't play in overtime. And Coker back to back games with four targets. Best game of the season was last week. And so if we get his out, if you're expecting a lot of passing, then he should have a chance to maybe be a, a sleeper deep league option for, for week 12.
Adam Azer
And Greg Dortch is also someone that I just wanted to mention. You know, I think it's.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah, you don't see him on there because I wrapped him into the Michael Wilson.
Adam Azer
Yeah, he was pretty fortunate. Had a garbage time. Touchdown only six Targets in the game when. When you had Brissette throwing so over 50, 57 times. I just want to throw out Isaiah Hodgins either Hodges.
Jamie Eisenberg
There are two guys that I left off that I have to go back and put. One is no offense and the other one is Hodgkin.
Adam Azer
And if not Hodgins, then Slayton. Whoever the number one wide receiver is going to be for the Giants this week would have that kind of Darnell Mooney opportunity, I guess. Well, sorry. Number one outside receiver. But Detroit's. Their defense has been really good. So no wide. Yeah, I forget. Their defense has been good. Okay, tight ends. Noah Fant. So we'll talk about him. Where are you gonna put him?
Jamie Eisenberg
One more thing on wide receiver. If booty's out. Matt Collins has been really good the last two weeks. If Booty plays, I have no interest in Mac. Oh, there you go.
Adam Azer
Where are you gonna put Noah Fant? Juwan Johnson will be number one, I'm sure. But who's gonna be. Where's Fan gonna.
Jamie Eisenberg
So fan will be right around again. Opportunity. Jaco. Conquo you know you're looking at great matchup. Seattle's been terrible against tight ends most of the season. You seen okonkwo hover in that 8 to 9 PPR point range for a good portion of the year. Now, Gunner Helm actually had more catches than him last week, so that's another guy in deeper leagues you take a look at. But if all three of their top receivers don't play, one is out for the season. And Calvin Ridley. So you got Iowa man are dealing with a hamstring injury. DK's dealing with chest injury. Yep, Dave mentioned it. Van Jefferson is what. What's left for them. So they've. They've incorporated their tight ends quite a bit. And so I. I think those guys factoring but no offense right there. You know, again, as Dave said, he's had some good moments with Joe Flacco already. And if Chase is out, you know, I would lean yosef Boss, but I. I get the. The appeal of what no offense could be. And the Patriots have been bad against Titans.
Adam Azer
Okay. And the not only does it strange.
Jamie Eisenberg
Don't. Don't forget about him. He could return this week.
Adam Azer
Yeah. Not only does Okonkwo have Seattle this week, it's Jacksonville next week. So the next two matchups for Okonkwo, as unappealing as he might be, are against teams that are currently 30th and 31st. Against tight ends Brenton Strange facing Arizona. They are Also really bad against tight ends. You've got A.J. barner on here. He had a huge game, 11 targets, 10 catches, 70 yards. And he also had a. He also had a rushing yard. Never touched. No, he just had a rushing yard.
Jamie Eisenberg
Not a touchdown. He's had one rushing touchdown. It was against Washington. The. He's one of these guys like you're never gonna trust. But if you look at his week to week performance, he finds a way to be productive whether it's scoring a touchdown or again, the rushing. A touchdown. Yeah. Last week it was being heavily involved in the game plan again. Yeah, 20 rostered. So like in your case, I'm in a similar spot with a couple leagues, you know, trying to find the, the Laporta replacement. You know, we really didn't have time at the end of the week because of when the news happened. But like I know for me, like I pivoted to Dawson Knox in a couple leagues with the Kincaid absence. Like take a chance on Barnard.
Adam Azer
Definitely Fan for me this week.
Jamie Eisenberg
Right?
Adam Azer
Yeah. Based on who I know is available in the league where I had Laporta, which is a 14 team league. Dave, I'm gonna ask you about two more tight ends. We'll wrap things up. That guy in the Giants 74 rounds, what's his name?
Dave Richard
Johnson.
Adam Azer
You sell out Theo Johnson, you gotta be you.
Dave Richard
You have to be good statistically to have, you know us. Have fun with his name.
Adam Azer
Theo Johnson And Harold Fannin Jr. How do you feel about them versus waiver wire guys?
Dave Richard
Fan. And if he's out there, I'm okay with just because I figure he'll be an easy short area option for Shador to lean on. And Shadur was clearly unprepared last week. I would expect him to take a step forward in that regard. So hopefully he does complete more than what was it like 25 of his throws. You know, maybe he gets up to 50. Fanon is okay. I'd still rather have Johnson Schultz get back to me on fanon vs fan but fant might actually be the answer there.
Adam Azer
And Theo Johnson.
Dave Richard
I call the FBI wondering where he is because last week was the kind of game script that, that I thought would help him put up some good numbers. And he had four targets and that's sad. I'm not ready to trust him again.
Jamie Eisenberg
The game script didn't go as we thought. They were playing with the lead.
Adam Azer
Were they playing with a lead?
Dave Richard
We thought the Giants were going to play with a lead.
Adam Azer
No, no, he's saying they were playing with a lead. It Was. It was a tight game.
Dave Richard
Yeah, I thought it was a back and forth game and not high scoring.
Jamie Eisenberg
Last thing I expected was Jameis Winston to have fewer than 30 pastimes and.
Dave Richard
His adot was way down from weather like Davis. Mills had a higher. You thought it was the weather?
Jamie Eisenberg
I. I think.
Dave Richard
Okay, so then why not more short throws to the tight end then?
Adam Azer
He didn't throw that much, but, you know, look, Detroit is Theo Johnson's matchup this week. They've been garbage against tight ends. It's been a great matchup except.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah, I'm going right back to Theo Johnson.
Dave Richard
Are you okay?
Adam Azer
I don't know about. Yeah, I don't know. I take. I think we'd all take Kyle Pitts, that's for one. That's for sure.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah, I mean, look, he's not a. He's not a slam dunk, must start guy, but you again, you look at this receiving core. Yeah, it's garbage. So.
Adam Azer
Yeah, and they're back.
Dave Richard
When you look at his games when he's had at least six targets and he's been pretty good every single time.
Adam Azer
Who?
Dave Richard
Johnson.
Adam Azer
Dave does a great die hard Theo thing and he's refusing to do it. DSTs, Browns, Chiefs, Jaguars, Saints kickers, Butker, Badgley, Little Raiders. Yeah, Raiders against the Browns. They're also in there. And Detroit against the Giants. If they're. They're about 70% roster. All right, that's it for this show. Thanks for watching and listening, everybody. We will talk to you tomorrow on fantasy football Today.
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Episode: Waiver Wire! Is This a Great Week or a "Fooled You!" Week?
Date: November 18, 2025
Hosts: Adam Aizer, Dave Richard, Jamie Eisenberg
This episode centers on navigating a tricky Week 12 waiver wire. Injuries and unclear statuses for key running backs have made pickups riskier than usual, leaving fantasy managers debating whether this is a week to strike with major FAB bids or to play it safe and avoid getting “fooled.” The crew covers top priorities at each position, dives into player health, analyzes team matchups, and debates whether certain breakouts are real or just one-week blips. Listener league drama, trade etiquette, and start/sit decisions also get airtime.
Jamie’s Top 3:
All recommendations depend on injury news; monitor closely before running waivers or setting lineups.
On Waiver Chaos:
“This is going to be the most complicated waiver wire week of the season and the most impactful one because it’s going to make or break a bunch of fantasy teams fighting for playoff spots.” — Dave Richard (03:37)
On Michael Wilson’s Target Explosion:
“18 targets!” — Dave Richard (12:04)
On Risky FAB Bids:
"If you spent a lot of fab tonight on Emmanuel Wilson or Kenneth Gainwell, you're obviously running the risk of not having [the starter]." — Adam Aizer (16:12)
On Trade Etiquette:
"Once you are mathematically eliminated from a playoff spot, you shouldn’t be allowed to make trades." — Adam Aizer (32:21)
On Backup Running Backs:
“If anything happens to Etienne… now you’re getting, you know, what do you want to put the floor at here? 9, 10 touches on a week to week.” — Dave Richard (57:46)
On Juwan Johnson:
"You can make the case [Juwan Johnson] should be the number one waiver wire priority." — Adam Aizer (24:43)
This is waiver wire week with landmines—a lot hinges on midweek injury news. The safest moves are priority backups where certainty emerges, but caution and patience with FAB are advised if you’re already set for the playoffs. Try to roster players with upside and monitor news up until waivers run, particularly for RBs and WRs with open situations.
[Podcast ends at 71:15]
Useful for managers who missed the show: Every major waiver, injury, streamer, and strategic consideration is here, with hosts’ authentic tone and humor preserved. Check injury news before finalizing claims!