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Dave Richard
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Adam
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Adam
Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Tuesday, September 16th. Welcome everybody to Fantasy Football Today presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook. Born in Vegas. Woo. What a waiver wire week. If need a quarterback, you probably do. And there are a lot of them available on the waiver wire. A lot of them with some good matches. Aaron Rodgers, great matchup this week. Are we going to trust him? And and many, many more names to talk about here including Jake Browning and to Rod Taylor and Carson Wentz and Marcus Mariota. All right, Adam Azer, Dave Richard and Jamie Eisenberg. Just. Yeah, I know, right. Just a quick reminder, we Usually we have CBS Sports Network Tuesdays and Thursdays at 1pm Tuesday waiver wire Thursday rankings for the week there. We are not doing that this week. So no CBS sports network this week. But we've got all your waiver wire needs right now including the top three waiver wire priorities from Jamie Eisenberg go.
Jamie Eisenberg
For me it would be Juwan Johnson. One screw quarterbacks. Who needs a quarterback? We need tight ends. So Johnson's, you know, back to back games over 15 PPR points. Hard to overlook that. And then it would be two quarterbacks with Daniel Jones and Jake Browning. If I think for Jones it's time to buy into him as a number one fantasy quarterback at this point. You know, two straight solid games, one against Denver. I know they both have been at home so we'll see if this is the, you know, pitfall coming up. Division game on the road. But based on what he's done through two games with this Colts offense, I'm, I'm going to trust him this week. If I need a quarterback. And then Jake Browning, the track record, small sample size, seven games but 22 plus fantasy points on average in the seven games he started in 2023 without Joe Burrow and over 20 fantasy points coming in for Joe Burrow in week two. And Burrow is going to be out the majority of the season.
Adam
So again, it was Juwan Johnson who has now go back to last year. Juwan Johnson now has seven or more targets in four straight games. You look at his career, you can find some good two game stretches. Hard to find good three game stretches for Juwan Johnson. This might feel a little bit different because he is playing pretty much every single snap. They're designing plays for him and he's 51% rostered. So this might be the last opportunity to get Joanne Johnson who has 20 targets in two games at Seattle this week. And then Daniel Jones and Jake Browning for Jamie. Okay, that's top three for Jamie. How about for Dave?
Dave Richard
I want to go in a different direction with my top three, Adam, because a lot of people are in leagues where Juwan Johnson was picked up last week and obviously there's going to be people who are going to prioritize quarterback based on what they need. Let me give you a top three players that are going to be available in the majority of leagues. So these guys are available in those deeper leagues. I think Troy Franklin is number one with a bullet for the Denver Broncos. Looks like he's going to be their number two receiver. The targets have been awesome for him each of the first two weeks of the season. It's not like there's a, there's a whole bunch of great players on my specific list because it's a deeper list. Jatavion Sanders would be there. I like the target volume that he got in week number two. Just worried about how long that can continue for over the course of the season. But for now I think he's not bad. And then I was gonna say Woody Marks. I'm not sure if it's ever going to be Woody Marks. So why not put Chris Rodriguez on your shopping list since I think he's going to end up being active for the commanders and we're going to have a new new look for how the commanders are going to use their running backs cross game. Merritt's going to be their main guy. But who's going to work third downs? Who's going to be working near the goal line? Are we sure it's going to be McNichols who is definitely on the commanders each week for a special teams play? Could it be Rodriguez? And so in those deeper leagues, you really don't have anything else to improve your roster. Maybe you avoided the injury so far. Stashing Chris Rodriguez and seeing what happens this week is not a bad idea.
Adam
All right, so those are really deeply guys, those Franklin, Chris Rodriguez and I'm sorry, who is the who? Oh, Jotavian Sanders.
Dave Richard
Tavian Sanders was in the middle. And by all means, like, if Juwan Johnson is out there on your waiver wire, he trumps all these guys. Same thing with Harold Fannin, same thing with Cedric Tillman. And of course, if you need a quarterback, Jones and Browning, those are the two.
Adam
Okay. This is not exactly the top three. Is this okay? Right. Dave is going kind of.
Dave Richard
My top three is a deeper league.
Adam
Top three. There you go.
Dave Richard
So people that are in 12 team leagues, slightly deeper benches. Juwan Johnson's already rostered. It's for those folks.
Adam
Gotcha. So TROY Franklin played 83% of the snaps. That was his first game of his career, playing more than two thirds of the snaps. And I think in at least in this game, he kind of played the Evan Ingram role. Kind of what we expected from Ingram. Kind of a short area slot guy. Well, Ingram's barely playing so far this year even when he's healthy and Franklin was, you know, he's primarily in the slot and he's getting wide receiver screens and things. I had one big play on, a really nice play by Bo Nix. But yeah, I'm very intrigued by Troy Franklin. Just kind of seeing the role that he's filling that we were excited about. Evan Ingram, it's not happening for Ingram and it kind of looks like Troy Franklin is doing that. That role. I want to talk about. Well, I think, you know, you mentioned Juwan Jennings. I thought Juwan Jennings 71 rostered. Would he be the number one AD if he's available for you guys.
Jamie Eisenberg
He'D be the number one receiver. He's certainly been the. He'd be in the top three.
Dave Richard
Are we sure he's okay? Kyle Shanahan said he was banged up on Monday.
Jamie Eisenberg
I think he's going to be banged up every week and I think based on his contract, he's going to play.
Dave Richard
Every week as long as he can play through it. Okay, that's cool.
Adam
All right. Well, Juwan Jennings coming off big game and I thought he'd be more available in ESPN and Yahoo leagues, but he's actually rostered in more ESPN and Yahoo leagues than he is CBS, which is unusual because ESPN and Yahoo more 10 team leagues than CBS. But Juwan Jennings 71 roster in CBS 80 in Yahoo. 76 on ESPN. How about Quinshon Judkins 89 rostered on CBS. Yahoo. Quinton Judkins 62% rostered 57 on ESPN. So I just, I talk about Quinton Juckins and I feel like I haven't brought this up. He's probably going to get suspended. Right. And I think Dan brought it up yesterday. But we got to say this, if you're thinking about dropping Dylan Sampson or anything like that. What, how are you guys looking at Jamie, the Judkins situation right now?
Jamie Eisenberg
I didn't see he's going to get suspended. Where did that come from?
Adam
Well, there was a report that they're bracing for a suspension. Okay, maybe I'm, maybe I'm reading into it too much, but I thought he's, what do you think he's met with.
Dave Richard
League officials about the July incident.
Adam
Should I not have said that? Should I, Am I jumping to conclusions?
Jamie Eisenberg
I, I, I just didn't see it. So I'm curious because that's news to me. I, I would assume if he's going to get suspended, it's probably going to be a two game suspension at most. I mean, I, he's not been convicted of anything so, and the charges were dropped. So you know, they can certainly do what they want to do based on how the code of conduct policy is. But I wouldn't be dropping Dylan Sampson anyway. I mean he's, he's going to have a role in, in tandem with Judkins. You want to drop forward, that's a different conversation. But in, in the case of Judkins, you know, again, I look at the other sites and their waiver columns and I get jealous when they get to write about Bashel Tootin and you know, Quinch on Judkins because I have to throw that into a category of, you know, hey, if you're in the 10 team league on CBS and these guys are available, go get them. Yes, those, those, those are the, the two biggest priorities. Tootin to me would be as, as right there with, with Judkins. So yes, if you can look at your waiver wire, if you play on a different site and you see guys like Juwan Jennings and Tutin and Judkins and these type of guys that have so much upside. Scatterboo, you know, I mean, another one that, you know, looks like you could be taking over the Giants backfield. So there's lots of options. Again, as I said to you on express, and, and I hope people understand this that have been listening to Us and watching us for years that we try to, I try to, we try to run the show, but I try to in the column, you know, give you from 10 team leagues to 16 team leagues. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's something that I think we make a, a good priority of doing.
Adam
I've got Tony Grassi of ESPN Cleveland reporting that. Not reporting, Speculating that there'll be a suspension. This was last week.
Jamie Eisenberg
I mean, yeah, but again, I wouldn't be dropping those guys whether Judkins is not suspended or not.
Adam
All right. Okay. There we go. There are some names for you. And let me ask you this about Jake Browning because obviously in super flex leagues, we now have some other options. We have Carson Wentz, we have maybe. Hopefully not, but maybe Mariota. But with Browning, you just mentioned how good he's been, Jamie, when he's played. How concerned are you about the, the idea of throwing all your fab at him and then the Bengals trade for someone? Because we're already starting to hear speculation about that. Not from Cleveland, just from people who watch football and whatever. Like, are they going to go after Jameis Winston, Kirk Cousins, you know, whoever it may be. Do you think the Bengals might go that route?
Jamie Eisenberg
I don't think they're trading for a starter. I think they're trading for a backup. You know, so if, if they are going to get somebody, it's in the case of what happens to Jake Browning. So you're right. We talked about this a little bit on express yesterday and that was before we got the McCarthy and Daniels news. You know, so anybody that watched that, you know, we were giving you some options in a different way. We were talking about to Rod Taylor, you know, just if you want to manage the week to week quarterback situation, if you lose bro before you can make a trade or somebody else emerges. But I think in the case of what we're looking at now, yes, you don't have to spend all your fab. That being said, if Browning is the starter for the rest of the season, or at least until week 15, then you could be getting a borderline number one fantasy quarterback. And so those type of options don't come along very often. But we are three weeks into the season and now we've lost Purdy for potentially two games. Who knows much longer because he sounds like he's Gonna Ms. Week three. You lose Burrow for, you know, 12, 12 weeks, essentially. You lose McCarthy maybe for two or three weeks, you lose maybe Daniels for a week, you lose maybe Justin Fields for a week. This is the one position where you could survive that in one quarterback leagues in super flex and two quarterback leagues. You need to go get these guys. So you know there may be because you know, looking at the roster percentages in, in some 10 team Super Flex and, and two QB leagues, Russell Wilson, Joe Flacco, Spencer Rattler, those guys may be on waivers. So it's a different conversation when you have all these guys but in a 12 team league like the one we play in, you know, where you know, someone like me is rostering Jackson Dart with the what if and you know you, you had to make the, the tough choice of dropping Spencer Rattler but for the most part every quarterback is roster. Then you, you're going to spend a lot of fab on something like this.
Adam
All right, so Dave, let's transition to the fab discussion here. And how much fab are we spending on the Juwan Johnson's of the world?
Dave Richard
I think Juwan Johnson is worthy of a 15 to 20% fab drop. It's been two weeks of him playing. Well, marry that with the track record of tight ends under Kellen Moore. Marry that with how Spencer Rattler has been playing the game script for the Saints all along. And I think that we should count on Juwan Johnson. Oh man. Saying the sentence gives me the heebie jeebies, but I'm going to say it anyway. We can, we can hope that Juwan Johnson can be a top 12 tight end rest of season.
Jamie Eisenberg
Well, I mean think, think, think about where we are at the position. Right, sure.
Dave Richard
No, no, no, I get, yeah, yeah.
Jamie Eisenberg
I have Kittle out for at least two more games. Who knows where we go from there, right? Ingram is droppable, Andrews is droppable. Those were two guys that for the most part based on ADP were drafted as top 12 guys. Hawkinson, not great so far to start the season potentially droppable in 12 team leagues. And then a week ago we were waiting to see or trusting in some cases from this group of players. Johnson was among them. Johnson Fannon, obviously Johnson's been better through two weeks. Najoku has been a bust through two weeks. But in terms of the waiver wire, guys like Hunter Henry, Brenton Strange, Kyle Pitts, Dalton Kincaid, like there's been a group of guys that you know in, in some strange situations that have either been good or bad. And so I think in the case of Johnson, like you're seeing this role with this new coordinator and quarterback. And to Dave's point, Spencer Rattler's thrown 80 times in two weeks. You know, like, there's. There's. There's probably going to be a lot of volume in this passing attack, and it's been, from a target perspective, beneficial for not just Johnson, but Olave and Shahid. And I think in the case again, of Johnson, like, you're seeing production and, you know, you mentioned the targets, Adam. The production was there at the end of last season, too. He was taking advantage of those targets. So when he's getting these chances, he's producing.
Adam
All right.
Dave Richard
Guess who's number two among tight ends in targets so far this season. It's Jake Ferguson, because Juwan Johnson's number one. 20 targets through two games. Guess who's number one in PPR points per game among tight ends this season?
Jamie Eisenberg
Johnson.
Adam
Nope.
Dave Richard
Tucker Craft by a point and a half ahead of Juwan Johnson. So Juwan Johnson, who nobody drafted through two weeks, is doing better in the target and fantasy point averages than our heroes Brock Bowers and Trey McBride. Do I think this lasts? No. Do I think he's a top 12 tight end at this point? Yes, I do. Okay, 15. I'm starting to lean more toward 20 just to lock this up. And hopefully you don't have any major tight end worries the rest of the season. Hopefully. Fingers crossed, maybe.
Adam
Okay. How much fab for Wandell Robinson?
Jamie Eisenberg
This is. This is one of those where I think with the receivers, there's so many options, so I wouldn't go crazy with it, but, you know, again, we're talking targets. He's got 18 targets in two games, you know, and you just saw with Russ, the second game of these two guys together, a career performance for him. So, again, I wouldn't go crazy, but, you know, Dave mentioned two names already and, you know, guys that he's interested in. They're two guys I wrote about in Cedric Tillman and Troy Franklin. You have, you know, from.
Adam
Still have Josh Downs out there. You still have Christian Kirk. Still have.
Jamie Eisenberg
I was gonna say, like, you know.
Dave Richard
He'S ahead of those guys for now.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah. I mean, right now I have Wandell as the number one receiver to add this week because the. The floor is so safe and the ceiling could be, you know, better than we've seen from him before, but it's. They're so lumped together, you know, and. And I would say it's not just, you know, some of those guys, it's like I.O. manor is, you know, having a good start to his career through two games. You know, like, there, There. There's. There's lots of guys that are kind of in this, you know, number three ish range. And so I don't, I don't mind, you know, taking chances on somebody a little or. I'm sorry, I don't mind not necessarily spending all my fab on. On one receiver this week. Like, I, I don't, I don't know if by next week, you know, we're going to see Wanda come back to being, you know, 11 PPR points. And you know, Tillman took a fluky touchdown for him to get to where he was at this week. You know, so there's just, you know, in Franklin, obviously, you know, you could see Marvin Mims showing a little bit of signs of life and maybe Ingram too. So I wouldn't go crazy with.
Dave Richard
I'd go 8% and that's in full PPR. It's going to be lower if it's half a non PPR. And he had 11.5 PPR points in week one. And that's, that's what I would expect from him.
Adam
All right, so unless it's Juwan Jennings, we're not going to be spending more than say, roughly 8% on a waiver wire wide receiver this week. And then quarterbacks, obviously, super flex changes everything. Just last question. You'd spend what percentage of your fab on. On Browning.
Jamie Eisenberg
In Superflex? Yeah, I, I think again, if you're committing yourself to all of it, I would, I would say in your league, you're probably starting in the 70 range, you know, so if you want to save yourself a little bit for the rest of the season, I get it. If you miss him. You know, you got to make sure you try and get a win some Mariota, one of these guys. And by the way, let's give Thomas some credit. His 38 on. On Carson Wentz is paying off.
Adam
And then we'll see.
Dave Richard
Let's see, let's see how Wentz does and for how long before we. We give him props on the $38.
Adam
Yeah.
Jamie Eisenberg
Bid.
Dave Richard
That's still a lot of change. Would you put a 38 bid in for Carson Wentz this week?
Jamie Eisenberg
Jamie, in a Super Flex League?
Dave Richard
100 in a Super Flex league. When. When we don't know how long Wentz is going to play for. This isn't like Browning. This isn't like Daniel Jones is already rostered.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah, but you also have to take into account, and I'll speak for Thomas here, he has basically one quarterback. So he, he was.
Dave Richard
Okay, fine.
Adam
And that's how much for. Yeah. How much for Wentz is a good question.
Jamie Eisenberg
Again, whenever you get these guys that are going to be multi week starters. So Mac Jones last week, you know, we did. We're hearing two to five weeks this week. It could be, you know, two to three weeks for. For McCarthy being out, you know, so 30 makes a lot of sense.
Adam
All right, so I just want to say that I've been watching a lot of game tape the last day Mondays, you know, good game, tape day. Welcome to the club, Carson. Thank you, Dave. Carson wentz in week 18 last year was the worst tape I've seen of any player I've watched this year. Absolutely horrible. He was playing Chiefs backups against Broncos starters. So there's that.
Jamie Eisenberg
That's all I got to do.
Adam
No, but that doesn't mean that you should be missing like wide open guys. He was absolutely awful. I suspect he'll be better than he was. But it is worth noting. I mean, he was so bad in that. In that.
Jamie Eisenberg
How was he? What was it? Week 18 the year before.
Adam
Yeah, his numbers weren't great. He didn't throw that much. He ran. Let me see. So week 18, the week before. The year before that with the rams, he was 17 of 24, 163 yards, two touchdowns, one interception. But he also had 17 carries, 56 yards and a touchdown rushing. Against the Chiefs, he was 10 of 17 for 90. No, not with the Chiefs. Against the Broncos, he was 10 of 17 for 98 yards and no touchdowns. But obviously there's a lot of appeal with Carson Wentz, especially facing the Bengals and then the Steelers, who have been horrible in the next two games. All right, we're going to take a break. We got news and notes for you and many more waiver wire names after this. Lowe's knows how to help make your home holiday ready for less. Get select style selections vinyl flooring for just $1.99 per square foot and have it installed before the festivities begin. Our team can help you every step of the the way. See a Lowe's red vest Associate or visit lowe's.comholidayill to get started. Lowe's we help you save basic install only. Date restrictions apply. Subject to availability. Install by independent contractors. See associate for details. Contiguous us only. Popsicles, sprinklers, a cool breeze. Talk about refreshing. You know what else is refreshing this summer? A brand new phone with Verizon. Yep. Get a new phone on any plan with select phone. Trade in in MyPlan and lock down.
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Dave Richard
Do you have an IR in your league?
Adam
No.
Dave Richard
Then you're dropping Joe Burrow?
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah.
Dave Richard
Wait, wait, wait. Is it a keeper league?
Adam
Okay. Kevin Stefanski brushed off talk of a quarterback change for now. I still worry about this situation guys, because the Browns are 0 2. Their next two games are green Bay and then at Detroit. So what happens if they're 04? Do we have to keep this in the back of our mind here? As we pick up till miss, we pick up Harold Fannin who's still widely available.
Jamie Eisenberg
I wouldn't worry so much about Fannin because I think what Dylan Gabriel does will be okay for him. I mean in the case of Tillman, clearly he's benefited now in these six games that he's been fantasy relevant from the majority of that being Jameson, Jameis Winston and, and Joe Flacco, you know, two of the biggest gunslingers we've had in the last, you know, three, four years. So yes, there'd be a concern but I'd like to see how this plays out because they're still going to be throwing the ball so much.
Adam
Okay. And Jaden Daniels with the knee injury. So Marcus Mariota actually was very good last year in two games where he replaced Jaden Daniels. 23.6 fantasy points against the Panthers, 30 fantasy points at Dallas. Those are two of the worst defenses in football last year. But Mario to play really well, he'll get the Raiders, who I really haven't been that bad defensively through two games. JJ McCarthy, high ankle sprain. The speculation is two to four weeks. Bengals this week for him and Carson Wentz is his replacement. You know, I don't think anyone eclipsed 300 yards last night, but at least six quarterbacks threw for more yards in Week 2 than J.J. mcCarthy has thrown for in the entire season so far. So they've thrown for 150 yards per game. Should get better no matter who's the quarterback. We've got Justin Fields with the concussion could be to Rod Taylor at Tampa Bay. And we've got some running back news. Aaron Jones left with a hamstring injury and he seems unlikely to play this week. They get Cincinnati so it could be a Good.
Jamie Eisenberg
I think I know my start of the week is by the way.
Adam
So. Yes, so. So Jordan Mason going to be starting a lot of leagues against the Bengals and that's pretty much it for running back. Before I get to the wide receiver news and a note ON Brian Thomas Jr. Football fans, you got to bring that playoff energy to your pro football bets all season long. This pro football boost pack gives you three ways to boost your payout on a winning bet. Just log into your BETMGM account to receive your boost pack. Then place any pro football bet and apply one of the tokens. Make sure to bet up to the minimum stake odds and legs specified on the token. If your boosted bet hits, you'll score a bigger payout. From opening kickoffs to game winning drives, this pro football boost pack is your ticket to unforgettable moments this season. Don't wait on the sidelines. Join the action with BetMGM. Brian Thomas Jr. Had a wrist injury going into week two. I think we saw many of you saw the clip circulating. He just he alligator armed a few of them. He just seemed to be shying away from contact. Maybe the wrist injury for Brian Thomas Jr. Was the reason for that. He gets Houston this week. It's going to be interesting. You know, he's going to get shadowed by Stingley. I as I recall he had success. I have to go back and watch as he had a lot of success against Stingley last year. Jaden Reed, six to eight weeks with a broken collarbone. So Don Tavian Wicks, Romeo Dobbs, who do we want there? We'll discuss that. Xavier Worthy trending toward a week three return. Are you guys ready to drop Marquis Brown for your desired waiver wire option?
Jamie Eisenberg
I wouldn't do that yet. I think Marquis Brown is certainly in the same kind of range that won Dale and Tillman and all these other guys, at least for the short term. We, we just don't know what this is going to look like, you know, with still Rice out for another couple of weeks. So if you want to play, you want to go that route that Rice is returning and you're looking long term. I I get it. You know, Tillman and Wandale and, and Shahid and you know, even Christian Kirk. But look what the Cowboys just did to the Giants and you know, we, we may see Mahomes come out and have a very strong game. Wouldn't shock me at all, clearly. And so wouldn't, wouldn't be surprised if Marquis Brown does does something of significance.
Dave Richard
I would just hold on to him until we're sure that Xavier Worthy's playing, and then even when Worthy's playing, I think Jamie's right. There's a chance that Brown can be useful as a number three receiver. Okay, but, but long term, like, if you're making a long term decision, like, no chance you're starting Hollywood Brown this week and you want to try and, you know, get that tight end you need or a quarterback, then yes, Brown is droppable.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah. I'll give you example. Like, I picked up Brown last week in a league where I had no intention of starting. It was more. I had nobody really that I needed. My, my lineup was fine, but I had a roster spot to, you know, sort of, you know, play with a little bit. And now I'll drop.
Adam
Tucker Craft is a big liar. He said he had never had 100 yard game before. He actually had two in college. So quite frankly, I don't know if I could roster someone that I can't trust. But I will make an exception for Tucker Craft. There's a lot of offensive line news. The Buccaneers, super beat up, but they just keep on ticking. They're down both tackles right now. San Francisco guard Ben Bartch.
Jamie Eisenberg
Baker's like, I'll see your 40 touchdowns and I'll raise you.
Adam
Yeah, honestly, I mean, it could have been a better game for him, obviously, but they, they ran with Rashad White. Touchdown at the end was anticlimactic. For fantasy purposes, Dallas center Cooper Beebe is going to be out a long time with an injury. Two minutes. Minnesota's beat up. Maybe they get Darrisaw back this week. That'd be nice. Titans are beat up right now. Oh, so two Panther. This is a big deal. I think I'm going to end with this. Then we'll get into the waiver wire. This is, yes, the Panthers. Right. So they got, remember a couple of years ago, they go out and they, they increase, they improve their interior offensive line. Part of the reason for that, other than the obvious as being better, is that they have a small quarterback and you don't want pressure in his face. So they knew, and I remember reading this, I'm not just making this up. They knew they had to be, you know, better in the interior offensive line for the pocket for Bryce Young. Now you've got Austin Corbett and Rob Hunt on ir. So, you know, how does this affect Dave, how does this affect the Panthers offense going forward?
Dave Richard
Gonna open the door for more pass rush pressure on Bryce Young, for sure.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah.
Adam
I mean, that being said, he had.
Dave Richard
169 yards and two touchdowns in the fourth quarter against the Cardinals. Now, the Cardinals were without some of their starting corners for most or all the fourth quarter, so that could have played a big role in there. But I think it's going to be a little treacherous for anybody who's like running routes of 12 plus yards on a semi regular basis in Carolina. This is one of the reasons why I think Jatavion Sanders could have some staying power because he can run those shorter routes. Tet McMillan can run those shorter routes too. They can work on getting the ball out fast. They can work on getting Bryce Young on the move a little bit more and they're going to have to do that. I, I think the Hunt injury is the one that's way more concerning than the Corbett.
Jamie Eisenberg
And don't forget about Hunter Renfro. I mean, he had a big game too, you know, so he's, he's involved here, but just 55 times like everybody got a chance to get an opportunity.
Dave Richard
He had a whole game's worth of attempts in the fourth quarter, 30 attempts.
Adam
So. Falcons DST, by the way, 7% rostered coming off a six sack performance at Minnesota. Yes, they're not bad.
Dave Richard
That defense looks great.
Adam
Yeah, I mean they stunk against the Bucks, but they were great at Minnesota. And now they face the Panthers who are giving up the third most fantasy points at dsts. All right, let's get to our top three players at each position. Jamie for quarterback, what do we got?
Jamie Eisenberg
So Daniel Jones is one for me. Number two is Jake Browning and I believe three is Rogers.
Adam
All right, Daniel Jones, Jake Browning, Aaron Rodgers. Rogers facing the Patriots this week who have are giving up the most yards per attempt and over 300 yards to both quarterbacks they've faced with Daniel Jones. Do you guys feel like this is a must have player basically, whether you need a quarterback or not? Because this is Jamie. I said the Baker Mayfield yesterday and you said and let's say maybe the Sam Darnold. But you know, is this the guy who's going to be a top 10 quarterback this year then just needs to be rostered?
Jamie Eisenberg
I guess if you have, you know, open roster spot and based on the fact that all these quarterbacks are going down, maybe you can add him and trade him or you know, you want to cover yourself just in case, you know that your guy is the next one to get injured. But if you need a quarterback, then yes, he should be added. So if you're the borough manager, if you're the Daniels manager, if you're the Fields Manager, you know, I mean, Fields, probably whether he's going to play this week or not, you want to pick up Daniel Jones to see what this looks like moving forward. But clearly there's something here. And you know, you could chalk it up the first week to say, well, we thought Miami was going to be bad. And he just completely blew us away with how he performed scoring on every possession, you know, in terms of the Colts, the way that he scored the two rushing touchdowns, you know, leaning on Michael Pittman and Tyler Warren. Okay, so there was everything they could have asked for. And then here comes Denver. Well, we know Denver's defense, they're going to make him look stupid and he made them look stupid, you know, and so a 300 yard game gets you another rushing touchdown. So the things that Daniel Jones has done well in his career using his legs, you're seeing that and now you're seeing a guy that's not making the same stupid mistakes again. You know, going, spending time in Minnesota, getting better coaching, getting better coaching with the Colts and what Shane Steichen is doing with him. So I think you gotta trust it, you know, at least in the short term until he turns into a pumpkin. And that may happen and it may happen again, you know, this week. Not that I think that the Titans defense is one to run away from by any stretch, but when you're seeing all these quarterbacks getting hurt and you're seeing some of the poor play from some of the guys of the position, like why would you not want to buy into this? And, and I'll go back to something I said in the, in the preseason or the off season, that if, let's just say Aaron Rodgers had signed here based on the weapons that the Colts have, you know, just a guy that can throw the ball. Like we would be so excited about the situation because the situation on paper is great. You know, you have this passing attack that just needed somebody to, to be competent. And that's what Daniel Jones has been so far. And so I still don't think, like I said yesterday, Adam, I still don't think we've seen the best of it because we haven't seen sort of everybody clicking at once. You know, Warren's been the constant great, awesome, because we need that at that position. And you had one good game from Michael Pittman and then okay game from, from Josh Towns. Imagine if we get sort of like that Browns game that we had in week one, you know, where everybody's getting involved in touches and, and producing and then you're seeing Daniel Jones even use his legs on top of that. So I I think it's just low end number one guy for the rest of season. He's in that category for this week. I think he's a top tall quarterback.
Adam
Okay. He had according to fantasy points data suite a 97 first read target rate in week two the highest percentage of passes that were first read for quarterback in any game since the fantasy points data has been charting those games back to 2021. This is a tweet from Jacob Gibbs. So that's he's just kind of running within the confines of the offense and it's working for him. So good job. Daniel Jones. Would you rather have Caleb Williams or Daniel Jones rest of season?
Jamie Eisenberg
It's a great question.
Dave Richard
That is a good question. I'm a little worried about Caleb getting benched at some point. I'm not worried about that with Daniel Jones anymore.
Adam
I mean God I love Caleb this week against the Cowboys. Right. This should be sure great.
Dave Richard
Sure. Yeah I do too.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yes. For this week. If I'm so if you're the Daniels manager let's say 10 team league and both are available I would go Caleb Williams.
Adam
All right. Top three running backs Dave.
Dave Richard
Top three running backs I would have Rodriguez one and these are not great names. Rodriguez won. Woody marks 2. I guess guess manangai is 3 but I had a hard time finding running backs that I really a were available and B could be something significant in the short term.
Adam
Do you got Jamie, do you like Rodriguez or McNichols?
Jamie Eisenberg
I would go McNichols first. I just think that based on what he can do as a pass protector they're going to trust him to be on the field more. So the way that I view it is McNichols is going to get the first shot in Eckler's role which is going to change. But Eckler's snaps if you want to go that route and then Rodriguez I still think is just the backup to Jacquard Crosky. Merit the hope would be is that cross gamer it starts to get involved in the passing game. But I do think that McNichols is going to be the one that they trust in pass protection as of now.
Adam
Okay. Top three and Jamie also likes Blake Corum who we'll discuss in a bit. Top three wide receivers.
Jamie Eisenberg
You're probably haven't seen the updated version of it so Rashad White would be second for me. If you just go going past the Washington situation because he's 64 rostered.
Adam
Okay.
Jamie Eisenberg
And I think if you're going to get double digit touches for him because we did not see that in week one. And I don't know how much of that was the groin injury, you know, coming back from that, that he suffered in the preseason. So you got 11 touches or, excuse me, 12 touches, 10 carries and two catches. Like he can still be in the flex conversation, especially when we start to get into bye weeks if he's doing that. So even take away the touchdown, you know, he ran really well. He actually ran better than Bucky.
Adam
All right, wide receivers. Jamie, who are the top three?
Jamie Eisenberg
So I'll go Wandale one, Tillman two and Shaheed three.
Adam
And I think you pretty much, you know, intimated earlier that it's close. Right. So don't put a huge fab bid on any of these wide receivers. You go Wondale, Tillman, Shahid. Dave, how about you? What would your order be at wide receiver?
Dave Richard
Tillman's still going to be number one, Wanda's second. And there's a clear difference between those two and the other wide receivers that are available. I'd go Romeo Dobbs 3. As a, as a short term fix. We know that Christian Watson's still not playing for the next couple of weeks. Jaden Reed's out for a while, Matthew golden, they're trying to get going. I think Dobbs is just the safe, steady wide receiver in Green Bay's passing game. And so I, I'd rather have him than Shahid, than Franklin, but it's a short term play, not a long term play.
Adam
Okay.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah, I, I would actually go Wicks over Dobbs if you're looking for like the packers guy to go get, because I think we kind of know what Dobbs is. And, and you're right. I mean he's going to be on the field a lot. He's going to get opportunities. Hopefully, you know, he gets more targets. But you saw Reed goes down and Wicks playing time spikes, target spike. You know, like this is, I think, a guy that has a higher ceiling than what Dobbs can give you.
Adam
One of the things the packers and a lot of offenses do well is they put guys in motion and then they create easy opportunities for those guys. And that was often Jaden Reed, but last week it was Dontavian Wicks. He was in motion on 30.6% of his snaps and it led to some easy catches for him. Romeo Dobbs, meanwhile, is almost never in motion. So I don't know if that's too beyond the box scorey for you, but I Did like seeing that from, from Wicks.
Dave Richard
I mean, Wicks had a nice game and good target share in week two. I, I just, I know who he is and I know he doesn't have reliable hands. I'd rather go with Dobbs.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah, I, I agree, but I'll use the exact same phrase. I know who Dobbs is too. Like there's, there's just like a cap ceiling for him, unfortunately.
Dave Richard
Do you feel like that ceiling is there though, without Reed and without the downfield targets being great for Green Bay?
Jamie Eisenberg
I just think he is who he is. Like he's, he's not going to be a guy that gets a ton of opportunities. He's touchdown dependent. Like Wicks can be such a difference maker. Grant, he's got a catch the ball that's a big part of this. But clearly, clearly he's their guy that they want in this role without Read there.
Adam
All right, top tight ends. Dave Richard, who are top three tight ends?
Dave Richard
It's Juwan Johnson, number one. It's Harold Fannin number two. Jatavion Sanders, number three.
Adam
Who are some players you drop for them?
Dave Richard
Well, among tight ends I think you can move on from, there's a lot of them. Brenton Strange, Hunter Henry, Evan Ingram, Dalton Kincaid, Dallas Goddard, if he's not back this week, could hit the waiver wire in a few leagues. Mark Andrews is like 96 rostered. You could move on from him. I don't know if you necessarily can. Can, can do that, but if you can, then by all means, go for it.
Adam
Okay.
Dave Richard
Some people are going to want to hang on to Andrews because they know who he's been. If he's your worst player to drop, you know, we talk about this all the time. Who's the player on your bench who's most expendable? For some people that could be Andrews. And in those situations, I wouldn't blame you for dropping them. Based on what we've seen for the last couple weeks and what we know is coming for the Baltimore offense once Isaiah likely gets healthy and even if likely gets healthy, I think that just, it hurts Andrew's chances. But Andrew's chances are already muddled because of what we're getting out of DeAndre Hopkins and say Flowers is dominating targets. It's, it's just not working out for, for Mark Andrews.
Adam
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Jamie Eisenberg
I'll go with the Chiefs. I know Russell Wilson went for, you know, 450 and looked great, but the Chiefs just shut down the Eagles. It was really funny if you caught the conversation between Chris Jones and Jalen Hurts at the end of the game. He said, you don't even have 100 yards. And Jalen Hurts goes, we won the game, basically. Dumbass. They're angry. They're going to take it out on the Giants. It's going to be probably pretty ugly for this Giants offense. Yeah, the Chiefs are still available in almost 50% of our leagues, so that's one that I like a lot.
Adam
Yeah, you know something? I'm not looking forward to watching that game with Heath on Sunday night on the air. That's going to be. That's going to be brutal.
Jamie Eisenberg
What's, what's gonna. What would be worse, you watching that game with Heath or me watching the Hurricanes Gators game with you?
Adam
Not. Don't upset potential there. But that.
Jamie Eisenberg
Oh, that. Please, come on.
Adam
All right. That was coverage you can count on some sort.
Dave Richard
But I don't, I don't think.
Jamie Eisenberg
I don't even think I'm gonna watch the game. That's how this, this, it's only an eight point spread.
Adam
I'm telling you. Like the Gators are. They threw five interceptions and barely lost to the number three team in the country.
Jamie Eisenberg
All right, guys, that's the formula you want.
Adam
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Jamie Eisenberg
You mentioned the Falcons. I have to add them. I didn't have them in there just after.
Adam
Jamie's saying the Falcons is a little hard to hear them there.
Dave Richard
Absolutely.
Jamie Eisenberg
Behind the Chiefs though, actually I like to see Hawks. I think they're gonna make some plays against Saints, the Bucks against Tara Taylor and the jets. And the Colts. Listen, their defense is playing well too. So there's five defenses you could look at for this week.
Dave Richard
Chiefs, Falcons, Colts are my top three.
Adam
Colts get Tennessee and then kickers.
Jamie Eisenberg
Jamie, Spencer Schrader, he's been very good. Chris Boswell continues to get the job done. John Parker Romo, who just learned his teammates after the game on Sunday. That was very funny interview. And then Joey Sly. He's got to be up there in terms of fantasy points amongst kickers. He's got 16 plus in each of the first two games. So the Titans are moving the ball, they're just not scoring touchdowns.
Adam
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Learn more at WhatsApp.com Shallow Leaguers definitely going to start that conversation with Quinchon Judkins and Juwan Jennings. As I mentioned, Judkins is available in more than 40% of both ESPN and Yahoo leagues. Jennings is more like 25% available. But Jamie, who are some other shallow league guys that if you saw them you'd make a beeline. They'd be top top priority regardless of position. Yeah.
Jamie Eisenberg
You mentioned Caleb Williams. If he's out there, I think you look at him at quarterback. Okay then Drake may still somebody you want to target. Trevor Lawrence, we'll see how he does. But if Brian Thomas Jr. Can get right then there's still a lot to like there Running backs Tutin, we mentioned Judkins, we mentioned Trey Benson, Brian Robinson Jr. Those are two guys I definitely want to roster and then scatter. Boo. You know just basically with the opportunity of him taking over the the Giants job and I wonder how much the the fumble. I know it wasn't credited to him at the end of the game last night From Maureen Hampton is going to impact playing time. It's just, I mean this rookie class with all the hype that they had, we had for them unfortunately is not paying off the first two weeks of the season. My goodness. You know, Genti struggling, Hampton struggling, Henderson struggling. Like it's been. It's been rough, horrible.
Adam
It just sucks.
Jamie Eisenberg
The wide receiver is pretty good opportunities for some guys in 10 team leagues. You know, it it apparently people bailed on Cooper Cup. I get it after week one. But 84 roster for him. The two Chargers guys are still available in about 17, 18 of leagues. Quentin Johnston and Keenan Allen. Marquis Brown again. You know, we'll see what happens there. Darnell Mooney expect there's going to be a lot more production coming and you mentioned Juwan Jennings and I also would, you know, go back to Khalil Shakir too. I know last week was bad, but it was bad for the entire Bills passing attack. They get Miami this week. Like there's an easy bounce back potential for Coleman and Shakir as well. Like it would not be surprising if you're just, you know, like if you miss on Wandale and people are dropping Shakir like this is the. The same type of player from a floor perspective. I don't think Shakira does what Wando did last week. I don't know if he has that potential in this offense. But you still want to in my opinion at least you know, roster Khalil Shakira if you can. Tight ends. There's a bunch of guys, you know, so I just want to get it where you don't yell at me that I'm not talking to the microphone. Zach Ers and Jake Ferguson. I'm sorry, not a bunch of guys. There's two. Zachary and Jake Ferguson. Like those two guys right now, off to such great starts. And Ertz there was not Earth. I'm sorry, I was thinking something but Earth has been great through the first two weeks of the season and we'll see if Terry McLaurin gets going what that means for Earth's production. But for right now, I think even with Mariota coming in to start, Earth will be fine. And Ferguson, you know, I, he, I liked him going into week two. He exceeded my expectations, you know, and Dave mentioned it. You know, he's up there right now in terms of, you know, targets in production, nine catches, 78 yards, 12 targets. Last week was. Was pretty fun to watch. Yeah.
Adam
Can I. I'll just add something on Ferguson here. So Chicago's actually been pretty good against tight ends. They faced Laporta and Hawkinson and held them both to less than 30 yards. Brock Wright scored, though. But Chicago's defense is horrible. They just lost Jalen Johnson for the season. Not that that's going to necessarily affect their tight end coverage or anything, but they also lost T.J. edwards, a linebacker. I don't know the severity there, but so on paper, doesn't look like a great matchup. But it's a, it's a, you know, they're going to be throwing a lot probably. But then they got the packers the week after. And that's the one thing the packers have been bad at so far is covering tight ends. Sam Laporta, 79 yards, Zachary, 64 yards and a touchdown. Ertz, meanwhile, is, I do think, though.
Jamie Eisenberg
For that game, just based on the narrative, Michael Parsons will cover everybody.
Adam
Well, Earth's Earth is 57% rostered on Yahoo, 50% roster on ESPN, so he's 82% roster in CBS. But you know, how about, Would you rather have Juwan Johnson, Zach Ertz, Jake Ferguson? How would you rank them?
Jamie Eisenberg
Ertz, Ferguson, Johnson.
Dave Richard
Johnson's first for me. I think I'd take Ferguson over Ertz, too.
Adam
Okay, how about Kyle Pitts in this discussion?
Jamie Eisenberg
Distant fourth.
Dave Richard
Okay, but he belongs in the discussion.
Adam
Yeah, but you know what, Dave? Like Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, none of these guys are available in my league. What about the deep league guys?
Dave Richard
Dave, Richard, starting a quarterback, you know that Jake Browning is going to be out there in a ton of leagues. 98 available. If you can't get your copies on him, then look for Mac Jones, who's 89 available. I thought Mac Jones looked pretty good for the 49ers. It's actually shocking that Pearsall didn't have a good game. I know that that was a player that Jamie and I went back and forth on a lot last week. It was weird how it turned out, but Mac Jones really played well, I thought. And so if he's going to continue to get some opportunities short term, I like him. Rattler also has played okay through the first two weeks of the season, and I think he's got more staying power than Mac Jones. Chris Rodriguez, Woody Marks, we talked about those guys at running back. I am, I am still stashing Burchard Smith in my deeper leagues. He's a rookie running back for the Chiefs. And you know, I can just hear, I can hear the rolling of the eyes from everybody out there. Oh, here we go. Another rookie that, that the guys are touting, but they've got to find something out of their run game at some point here. I mean, they're still using Cream Hunt almost as much as they're using Isaiah Pacheco. He's a stash. He's somebody in those deeper leagues that is worth stashing. Wide receiver. A lot of names. We can start with Troy Franklin. I talked about him earlier. He's getting a lot of target volume. I don't think he's going away in Denver. I think he's a pretty good receiver elect IO Manor Don, Tavian Wicks, Isaac Tesla. Tori Horton. Jalen Coker is still worth a stash, too. He's halfway home from his IR stint. He's going to eventually come back for the Panthers and be a good short area target. He's a big slot for them. 91% available. And Christian Watson is talking like he's going to be back sooner than later. He's available in 92% of leagues. You could stash him, especially if you've got those IR spots. And then at tight end, there really isn't that much. It's just, it's to Tavion Sanders. The other tight ends that are available in deep leagues, I wouldn't go after.
Adam
Okay, more names coming shortly. Team name Tuesday. Real quick, Boswell. That ends well. Very good. I never know how to pronounce the name of this old video game, but Ninja Jaden. Is it Gaiden or Guidance? I always said Guyden Gaiden.
Dave Richard
It's Guy guided Positive. It's guided.
Adam
Okay, so Ninja Jaden is a terrible team name. Thank you for playing Loser. Bill and Tets Parentheses. His mom doesn't like it. Excellent adventure. A swift kick in the booty. Remember when Dave mispronounced booty's name for some reason on Sunday? That was so strange.
Dave Richard
Remember, it was two days ago. This happens sometimes.
Adam
I know. Made all the booty jokes. Rashi Rice and beans. Got me tootin. Very good. A little elaborate but very good. All right. I think I want to save the Monday night games for the very end of the show, including our thoughts on Omari and Hampton. I want to get into the waiver wire a little bit more first. Give me a zero to ten on the drop o meter. Caleb Johnson, 78% rostered.
Jamie Eisenberg
One billion. Yeah.
Dave Richard
Yeah. I'd go lower than a billion, but yeah.
Adam
Isaiah Pacheco, 0.
Jamie Eisenberg
He's gonna have a big game this weekend.
Adam
No, he's not.
Dave Richard
It's a jobu week, though. If he doesn't, it's. It's a problem.
Adam
I Mean, their run defense is so bad. It's a great matchup. I'm just worried it's going to be Kareem Hunt.
Jamie Eisenberg
They also have yet to play with the lead.
Adam
Matthew, will you stop counting the Giants out? I mean, it's right in front of me. Matthew Golden.
Jamie Eisenberg
We should do some sort of bet like Gators, Canes, Chiefs, Giants.
Dave Richard
Why would, why would I. Why would you even get involved in chief Giants? Are you just saying Adam is making bets across the board.
Adam
I'm very nervous about the Gators game. Okay.
Jamie Eisenberg
Oh yeah, you should. You should. You should really be shaking.
Adam
They're good. They just keep themselves well.
Dave Richard
That's coaching.
Adam
Yeah. Matthew golden, drop o meter.
Dave Richard
That's what happened to the Canes for two years. And then they figured out how to.
Jamie Eisenberg
Call games 2 in 10 team redraft leagues.
Dave Richard
I didn't hear them.
Adam
12 team league. Drop o meter for Matthew Golden.
Dave Richard
I'm still mad about the Canes blowing that game against Georgia Tech. Two years.
Jamie Eisenberg
Zero.
Dave Richard
It's a zero.
Adam
Trevor Lawrence.
Dave Richard
Zero.
Adam
I don't know, man. I mean he's got Houston and San Francisco and Kansas City and Seattle coming up.
Jamie Eisenberg
In a 12 team league.
Adam
He is a 4k Sean Booty.
Dave Richard
I would prefer to stash him.
Jamie Eisenberg
5.
Adam
Stefan Diggs, 0 3. Demario Douglas, 10.
Dave Richard
8.
Adam
It was very strange. He barely played. I mentioned this yesterday.
Jamie Eisenberg
They.
Adam
They basically were two tight ends for a lot of the game. Barely went three receivers.
Dave Richard
It was so weird. They went two tight ends and they didn't throw to Henry very much at all.
Adam
Yeah.
Dave Richard
And I, I don't know why they didn't try attacking the cornerbacks. Even more of them of the Dolphins. They really wanted to get that run game going.
Jamie Eisenberg
Did you hear variables on his radio show in New England, wherever, in Massachusetts, wherever he was, wherever he is.
Dave Richard
Probably the same place.
Jamie Eisenberg
About the Ramandre catch.
Adam
No.
Jamie Eisenberg
So he said that play was designed for Trayvon. They ran in practice for Henderson. He said it was like they were struggling in practice. They ran the play, hit the play and the whole, you know, tenor of practice changed. Everybody was excited. I don't know why they didn't do it for him in the game. I. Henderson had a brutal game. Pass protection, terrible. He really struggled. Yeah. I wonder how much that matters for. For Stevenson moving forward.
Adam
It sucks. Hollywood Brown, drop o meter. You guys said you don't really want to drop him. I think he's pretty droppable. If we're coming back, let's put him at a 5.
Dave Richard
But it's. It's a 0 if worthy is out. It's a 5 if if worthy plays. And it could be a 10 a week from now.
Adam
Okay. Yeah. So let's be patient with the practice reports for the Chiefs. Hunter Henry.
Jamie Eisenberg
Nine, four.
Dave Richard
Available. You can move on from Henry to one of those guys pretty easily.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah, I'm not dropping Henry for Jatavion Sanders yet, though. Yeah.
Adam
I mean, the disappointing thing for Henry was that Austin Hooper was so much more involved in week two than he was in week one. T.J. hawkinson.
Dave Richard
No, not yet.
Jamie Eisenberg
May have a better quarterback, though.
Adam
I. I have Hawkinson in two leagues and I want to sit him. I don't know that I'll drop him, but I definitely will try to pick up someone else. All right, let's get to the waiver wire. The shallow league guys. Caleb Williams, we're. I'm assuming you guys like Caleb a lot this week against Dallas.
Dave Richard
Top 12 quarterback.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah.
Adam
Drake May, you like him against Pittsburgh.
Jamie Eisenberg
Top 12 so much, but top 15.
Adam
And then there's Lawrence against Houston.
Dave Richard
Not a top 12 quarterback.
Adam
Okay. Add in this order. Daniel Jones, one for James. Jamie's order. Jake Browning, Bryce Young. No Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, and then Bryce Young. All right, Rogers is three because he's getting New England. After that, he gets Minnesota, which has been kind of an interesting matchup. But Young, you know, nice comeback effort yesterday or Sunday through 55 passes. So where's. If Aaron Rodgers is your third priority on waivers and Bryce Young is fourth, where are they in the rankings this week?
Jamie Eisenberg
Jones is a top 12 quarterback. Browning is just outside. Rogers, I believe is 12. Wow.
Adam
Rogers is 12th. Wow. Okay, Bryce Young.
Jamie Eisenberg
Bryce Young is near the bottom for this week, but next four games total, in totality, the schedule is good.
Adam
Atlanta, New England, Miami, Dallas. Yeah, you're right. It's a very good schedule for Bryce Young. You got TUA at Buffalo. That's a Thursday game, right? Yeah.
Jamie Eisenberg
Don't love him this week, but the next two games are good.
Adam
Next two games are Carolina. Carolina. No, Jets. In Carolina, Matthew Stafford. Matthew Stafford's thrown for 245 and 298 yards in two games. He's got three touchdown passes at Philadelphia this week, which can't be great, right?
Jamie Eisenberg
No, no.
Adam
And then the Colts. Sam Darnold against the Saints.
Jamie Eisenberg
His schedule also coming up very favorable.
Adam
Saints, Cardinals. Next two games for Sam Darnold. They're. They're going to try to be a run heavy team. Russell, which is not a surprise. Russell Wilson gets the Chiefs this week then.
Jamie Eisenberg
So the orders change a Little bit. So this is where the backups come in.
Adam
Oh, like the Mariotas of the world.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yep.
Dave Richard
To Rod.
Adam
So you'd rather have Mariota than Russell Wilson, assuming Mario is starting.
Jamie Eisenberg
I have Wentz first just because of the potential longevity.
Adam
Okay.
Jamie Eisenberg
Mario is not even guaranteed to play this week. Just keep that in mind.
Dave Richard
Right.
Adam
And you have Browning first, just in case anyone got confused.
Jamie Eisenberg
Browning and. And Mac Jones, too. Like, I mean, listen, this is now, I think four of his last seven going back to his time with Jacksonville. 21 or more fantasy points. So he's going to run the system. I mean, look, he's. He's going to give you Kyle Shanahan quality numbers if you're just looking for what he can do. And I don't think the Cardinals defense is one to fear.
Dave Richard
The Cardinals defense might be without all three of their starting corners. And their. Their pass rush is good. It's not great.
Adam
Cardinals have seen 101 pass attempts in two games. It's insane. So. So, yeah, so Mac Jones has Arizona, then he has Jacksonville. It's really pretty good. If he keeps that job for. For the next couple of weeks, do you expect, you know, 18 or more fantasy points from Mariota if he plays this week against the Raiders? Wentz against the Bengals. To Rod Taylor at Tampa Bay.
Jamie Eisenberg
Mariota, yes. The other two right at that number. Taylor a little bit lower, but Mariota.
Dave Richard
Wentz is right at that number. Maybe a little bit below Mariota after that, to ride after that.
Jamie Eisenberg
You mentioned what Mariota did in this offense last year. He's going to use his legs. And I don't think this Raiders defense, yes, they played well, but they're now short week cross country. I don't think it's a great setup for them.
Adam
Yeah, it's quite a trip.
Dave Richard
I think it's a great setup for Bill.
Adam
All right. No mention of Michael Penix gets Carolina this week. Any interest there?
Dave Richard
I would mention Penix. I think that he. He had a tough game against Minnesota on the road. I think he deserves a little bit of slack for that. And the Carolina matchup should be favorable for him.
Jamie Eisenberg
He's not like I want to see is 12.
Dave Richard
He's okay.
Jamie Eisenberg
Which Penix shows up because when he had to make plays in week one, he used his legs. He took advantage of Bijan and what, Howard Robinson in the passing game.
Dave Richard
Mr. Robinson.
Jamie Eisenberg
And then they ran the ball so effectively in week two. And Penix as a fantasy quarterback wasn't great. And so again, small sample size, but in the three starts last year, and the two starts so far this year, he's got one, say, pretty amazing game, one, pretty good game, and three, just kind of game managing. And I don't know how much of having to go out and win the game. He certainly could, you know, in terms of, you know, making plays with his arm, but I think he's just kind of in the mix with all these other guys as opposed to standing out above them.
Adam
And that's what took me just so long. Doing the waiver wire show yesterday, doing the notes is there. You say he's in the mix. There's so many guys in the startable mix, you know, that it could just, it could be this way every week where you could go to the waiver wire and find a quarterback you like just based on the matchup. I don't know how it's going to turn out. Like, if Aaron Rodgers goes out this week and has a big game against New England, then we're just going to be streaming guys against New England all year. We're going to be streaming guys against Dallas, streaming guys against Chicago. And there are a lot of just really good quarterbacks potentially in the NFL this year. And it's going to, it's going to be this. Like this. It could be like this every week. Maybe the dust will settle and it won't be like this, but right now.
Jamie Eisenberg
It'S, you know, so we should save this conversation for next July and we'll see how Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen and hopefully everybody stays healthy and the guys that were drafted at the top. This is the one position you can survive an injury.
Adam
Yeah.
Jamie Eisenberg
And so you lose Joe Burrow. It sucks because there's not somebody you're going to find off waivers. That's going to be Joe Burrow. That I'll, I'll end. If you want to end the conversation there, I get it. You're not going to find Jobur on waivers, but you are going to potentially find Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield or in this year, Daniel Jones or maybe Jake Browning or. Or maybe somebody, whoever you think it's going to be in this range. And do you want to invest early in a quarterback? That's a question you have to ask yourself.
Adam
Yeah. All right, let's go to the running backs. Cam Scatter Boo, 81% rostered, and Basil Tutin, 75% roster. These guys are making some good progress in their backfields. Trey Benson and Brian Robinson Jr. Are obviously high in handcuffs, but Benson's also fairly involved on a weekly basis. And then you've Got the commander situation. Jamie Favors, McNichols, Dave Favors, Chris Rodriguez, but they have Jigori, Crosby, Merritt. We're hoping that he's the guy that just excels here. Blake Corum. You know, Blake Corum has. Has a role in. Sean McVeigh wants it to be more of a maybe two thirds kind of split in terms of the.
Jamie Eisenberg
You want the quote again?
Adam
Sure, yeah. This is what Sean McVeigh said about the Rams backfield. Blake Corum with five carries and he scored a touchdown at Tennessee.
Jamie Eisenberg
McVeigh said he was really impressed with what Corum did. And then here's a full quote. I was pleased with Blake. He's explosive. He's a good football player. I have a lot of trust in him, and then we'll continue to see that moving forward. So I thought that was good today.
Adam
And then you got Rashad 31 of the snaps.
Dave Richard
He actually had the edge inside the five over Kyron for four of seven snaps inside the five.
Jamie Eisenberg
Was that throughout the course of the game or just at the end of the day?
Dave Richard
Yeah, that's the whole game.
Adam
No, but he's saying. Because he scored that touchdown super late in the game, I don't know if that was. He got most of his snaps, right? Yeah.
Jamie Eisenberg
Like, what? Do you have the breakdown of the first three quarters of those?
Dave Richard
Yeah, sure, I can get that. Just give me a second.
Adam
All right. Rashad White is another guy you could add. Tajie Spears could be coming back in a couple of weeks. Tyler Algier, 40, just while you're there.
Jamie Eisenberg
Like, if you do not need a running back and have an open roster spot with no ir, stash him.
Adam
That's how I feel about Christian Kirk. Hopefully he'll start practicing, but I feel like he could have the most staying power of these wide receivers that we're talking about. But obviously you can't count on him for this week, but good grief, do they need a number two wide receiver?
Jamie Eisenberg
And maybe you can play around one of the two.
Adam
What'd you say?
Jamie Eisenberg
Or an offensive line or.
Adam
Yeah, or a running back. I still think the buck. I. I think the Bucks let him score at the end there. Miles Sanders, I love.
Jamie Eisenberg
Anytime I get to use one of your GIFs.
Adam
Miles Sanders is whatever he's four or five carries. First two games scored a touchdown. What about Kareem Hunt? Any interest in picking him up? Sure, yeah.
Dave Richard
If he doesn't score, you're not gonna be happy that you've got him? I guess. I guess if you're stashing him in case Pacheco gets benched or hurt and Rashard Smith never becomes anything and the Chiefs do nothing else at running back. That seems kind of narrow. I I'd be more inspired by some other players. I've got your Chiron number by the way James Go first three quarters, 68 of the snaps.
Adam
No. What about inside the five at 69? What about inside the five?
Dave Richard
Inside the five for the first three quarters.
Adam
Yeah. We were just wondering if if Rashad White or. Sorry. If Blake Corum had three or four.
Dave Richard
Snaps inside the five through the first three quarters.
Adam
Okay. Thank you. Mystery solved. Wow.
Dave Richard
Wow.
Adam
Kyle Manangai is the clear number two running back right now for the Bears and he played about I think a third 40% of the snaps and he had eight touches shallow leagues in wide receiver Ville Chris Godwin could be back soonish. You know we were expecting about a four week absence. He started practicing Cooper cup he started.
Jamie Eisenberg
Watching a book of perform and he's like you know my ankle feels okay.
Adam
Yeah Cooper cup nice bounce back there. So if Cooper cup were available and Juwan Jennings were available and Scatterboo and Basil Tutin were available. Who you go of those four names I'll throw Godwin in there. Godwin Cup, Tootin, Scatterboo, Juwan Jennings.
Jamie Eisenberg
Who's your favorite Tooting by a long way.
Adam
Okay.
Dave Richard
Yep.
Adam
Followed by.
Jamie Eisenberg
Jennings.
Dave Richard
Right now Jennings over Godwin. I'm not believing in cup and I probably go scattered back. I don't know why I'm scattered.
Jamie Eisenberg
Probably go scatter.
Dave Richard
Yeah I would go scatterable over cup too.
Adam
Khalil Shakir, he's. You know they didn't throw much against the jets but you know Josh Palmer is a guy that is is has a 1 more target than Shakir. If you look at the bills targets through three games or through two games they've only played two 14 for Coleman, 12 for Palmer, 11 for Shakir, 10 for Kincaid and obviously the the views of Coleman versus Palmer are much different but another guy is kind of a deep league Guy Josh Palmer 20 roster all right so the wide receiver priorities are Wandale Robinson for Jamie Cedric Tillman, Rashid Shahid, Troy Franklin. Jamie and Dave disagree on which packers wide receiver to prioritize. Jamie likes Wicks a little better than Dobbs. Dave prefers Dobbs. There is Christian Kirk and Alec IO Manor, Tori Horton, Hunter Renfro but with Tillman you know would if I how much is the quarter the potential of a quarterback change changing things for Tillman if I told you Flacco were Going to keep starting. Would he be ahead of Wando Robinson?
Jamie Eisenberg
No, I, I get. Let me, let me counter your question with a question. How long is Russell Wilson starting?
Adam
The whole, the whole season.
Dave Richard
That's a good call because I, I think Dart will be more aggressive than Russ. Although look at how Wanda was used last week. That was pretty impressive.
Jamie Eisenberg
I, I think it's not just the quarterback. It's. He was 93 catches last year and 140 targets like Day ball's going to give him chances to get volume.
Adam
For Wanda Robinson, this was his career best game, 142 yards. He had never had more than 100 and also 16.2 yard a dot in his entire career. His previous career high was 11.5 yard ADOT. So he's. If they could use him downfield a little bit more that'd be great. But I think it was just a product of the Cowboys playing this pathetic zone defense the entire game and the Giants and no pass rush.
Jamie Eisenberg
But yeah, again if Thomas comes back. You've talked about this quite a bit in the last, you know, month of what this offense does scoring wise and let's just say his a dot improves by marginal not to what it was against the Cowboys but just a little bit better. And now his 6 for 50 becomes 6 for 66 for 70. Like we're talking about a very easy number three PPR receiver on a week to week basis.
Adam
Yeah, but I think personally that Christian Kirk is a better version of Wanda L. Robinson but obviously that's, that's assuming you don't have to start one of them because you know Kirk's not playing right now. But I don't know, I hope, I.
Jamie Eisenberg
Hope Kirk is good for you, man. You really love this guy.
Adam
I mean I don't, I don't really love him but I don't really love Wanda Robinson, you know. But I think Robinson is ten and a half ppr points per game.
Jamie Eisenberg
I mean he's going to be in the Giants hall of Fame safe floor.
Adam
I mean Tommy DeVito is going to be in the Giants hall of Fame.
Jamie Eisenberg
I think if you're just like if you're looking at the list on YouTube and you're reading it and you're listening to it, the names are Wandell Robinson, Cedric Tillman, Rashid Troy Franklin, Dante being Wicks. The other names aside from Wanda Robinson almost to a man have more upside because of what they can do from a touchdown perspective from what they've done in their careers, from maybe their quarterback situation. Like there's a Lot of ways to sort of look at this. I'm sort of a little bit diving into the unknown here. Because it's two games of Russell Wilson, the targets have been Constant. So it's 18 targets through two games. That is a carryover from last year. He had 140 targets. Then you have what Russ does for Robinson, at least in a two game sample size. One game was exactly the same. Wandell Robinson in week one. That's the exact guy you got a year ago.
Adam
Exactly.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah. Game two, you got a different version of Wanda Robinson. And so can we get somewhere in between? Probably still closer to week one, but can we get somewhere in between where there's a few yards down the field a little bit more? So again, that, that 5 for 40, that 6 for 50, that 11 PPR range that he just lives in his entire career now becomes 12 or 13. I'm willing to take the chance on that.
Adam
Sure. All right. I, I'm, I'm looking to see what.
Dave Richard
His previous high was in a dot.
Adam
I just told you it was 11.5. It was 16.
Dave Richard
I'm sorry.
Adam
Yeah, it's okay. 16.2 yard a dot. That's only the second game of his entire career with an eight out over 10 yards. Usually it's like six yards. So he was used very differently. Wandell Robinson, I will go with him over Christian Kirk. I think I'm being too optimistic here because the, the Texans are a mess. They're just an absolute mess. We're not gonna have time to talk about those games today. We'll talk about them tomorrow. But obviously the offensive line is so bad and they have no run game, and I think that hurts them. You know, they're in obvious passing situations and when you have a bad offensive line, it's not good. So Christian Kirk's not going to fix that.
Jamie Eisenberg
You saw what, what d' Amico Ryan said about mixing last week, right? No, he basically was talking about him in past tense when he said, yeah, what he's done for this team.
Adam
Yeah, he may very well may not play this year. All right, Elliot IO Manor, you know, whatever. He's. He's not a bad option. He's got 13 targets in two games and gets the Colts, who have actually been pretty good against wide receivers, except for Troy Franklin. All right, let's go to the tight ends and just. Well, sorry, Josh Downs. Would you pick up Josh Downs or Wandale Tillman, Shahid, etc?
Jamie Eisenberg
I think if you're picking up Josh Downs, you're doing it with the hope that he Becomes what he was a year ago. And he certainly can get there. I mean, you know, you're looking at, again, signs of life in the. In week two, but until we see it, I think there's just more options with those. You're gonna see Josh Downs dropped in a lot of leagues.
Adam
Question.
Dave Richard
I'm trying to stash him, but I would go wandale over him because.
Adam
Oh, sorry.
Dave Richard
No, I mean, Downs has a Jonathan Taylor problem. There's definitely going to be some games coming up where Jonathan Taylor just continues to dominate and really restricts just how much they throw the ball. Colts aren't going to need to throw the ball as much and that'll hurt Josh Downs already. So I'd rather have Wondale, but I do think that Downs is very talented at tight end.
Adam
The shallow league guys are Kyle Pitts, Dalton Kincaid, who's got to be. I mean, we're not really excited about him. Right. But he is playing the Dolphins.
Jamie Eisenberg
You are looking at the wrong version of the call.
Adam
Okay, so it's Jake Ferguson and Zach Ertz.
Jamie Eisenberg
All right.
Adam
And Dallas Goddard, if he were available. How much do you like him?
Jamie Eisenberg
I don't.
Adam
All right. And we don't really like Kincaid. And you don't really love Pitts. You'd rather have Juwan Johnson and Harold Fannin. Okay, Harold Fannin, five targets. He gets Green Bay this week, and they have been bad against tight ends. Is Harold Fannin a top 12 tight end for you guys?
Jamie Eisenberg
He's just on the cusp. I mean, this is a tough matchup against Green Bay. Across the board for the Browns, but you got to like the usage. You got to like the fact that his rap participation increased a little bit. They clearly want to get him going. And how amazing would it be if they traded Dave Najoku to get Najoko to maybe a place where he could still be the guy that we hoped he would be. And then Fannin just gets unleashed. So you've heard a little bit of like, you know, maybe he's on a trade block. I don't know where he would go. That makes most sense, but it's just hard not to buy into what Fanning could become.
Adam
Go back a little. Go back to his college home, Go back to Miami for David Nijoku. Darren Waller, by the way, I think, has a chance to at least practice. Then they list them as Limited.
Dave Richard
Easiest $5 million ever made.
Adam
Probably not going to play on a short week, but. And then there's. By the way, do you. Do you drop Najoku for Juwan Johnson and or Harold Fannin.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yep, I definitely do it for Johnson. You could probably talk me into do it for Fanon.
Adam
Isaiah likely is someone that Jamie's been talking about stashing and Dave's been banging the drum for Jatavion Sanders. Any interest in a 49ers tight end against the Cardinals?
Jamie Eisenberg
I think the fact that Pharrell got the touchdown is not great.
Adam
Thomas had five targets, but yeah, I mean it's. We're talking deep leagues here.
Dave Richard
Yeah. Deepest of tight end premium leagues.
Jamie Eisenberg
Oh, I know there is one. George Kittle.
Adam
What do you mean?
Jamie Eisenberg
You said interest in the 49ers tenants. Yeah, I get killed.
Adam
Yeah, I take him. DSTS chiefs are at the Giants. They do have Baltimore the following week. So it's the one week thing. Falcons get the Panthers. Panthers. Thank you. Seattle gets the Saints. The Seattle has been very good so far defensively they have four sacks and four interceptions. They get the Saints, then the car, then the Cardinals. So Seattle might be a two week thing for you. Tampa Bay against the Jets. They haven't been so great so far against the Falcons and Texans, but they get the jets and then the Eagles. That's Tampa Bay and the Colts facing the Titans. One great game for the Colts, one bad game. Titans have been a pretty good matchup so far. Kickers Spencer Schrader, Chris Boswell, John Parker, Romo and Joey Sly. All right, we're going to talk about Marion Hampton and anything else. Brock Bowers walking around, running around with that knee brace on tomorrow's show. I'm going to leave everybody with a really bad beat for me in the IDP league where I've now lost two games by a combined five points. And yesterday I it was Omari and Hampton for Scott Fish versus Devin White, linebacker for the Raiders for me. And Hampton was having such a bad game and then he fumbled at the end and we were tied. Oh no. I was down by one point and then Devin White got a tackle and we were tied and I was like, oh my God, I'm going to salvage this. I'm going to get a tie. And then they changed the fumble to Justin Herbert instead of Omari and Hampton and I lost by two points.
Jamie Eisenberg
We have similar situation the podcast league where right now we're sitting with a percentage point edge with Hampton. So if they change the fumble stat correction, we lose. Oh, and I have one league where I lost 111.02 to 111.
Adam
Oh my God. All right, listen, Stack. Corrections, baby. Stat corrections.
Jamie Eisenberg
Yeah, I had in that league. It's my longest running league and they. They think I always do all the write ups on the recaps and all stuff. So.
Adam
You died.
Jamie Eisenberg
I sent a text this morning. I said it's time to call in that favor for stat correction.
Adam
Wow. All right, dude. And look at us. Me, Heath, Jamie and Dave are a combined seven and one in the podcast, pending a stat collection. All right, folks, have a great day, everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow on fantasy football. Paramount podcasts now streaming. When people go missing, I get hired to help find them.
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