Waiver Wire! Mike Evans, Greg Dortch, Isaac TeSlaa, Devin Singletary and More (12/02 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Fantasy Football Today – "Waiver Wire! Mike Evans, Greg Dortch, Isaac TeSlaa, Devin Singletary and More" (12/02/2025)

Hosts: Adam Aizer, Dave Richard, Jamie Eisenberg
Theme: Key waiver wire pickups and strategies for Week 14 and beyond as fantasy playoffs begin.

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the most important waiver wire adds for Week 14 of the fantasy football season, with an eye toward the playoffs. Adam, Dave, and Jamie discuss priority pickups from running backs to wide receivers and tight ends, hand out FAB (Free Agent Budget) advice, break down injury news, and rank position-by-position pickups for various league depths. The tone is engaging, opinionated, and full of the inside jokes and debates that make FFT a favorite for fantasy managers.

“Week 14 is here and the FFT Open playoffs are starting. So by the way, if you are not in the top four in your FFT Open division, please do not make any transactions or I will rip my eyeballs out.”
—Adam (01:23)

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Waiver Wire Landscape and Strategy

• Importance of this week: Both Dave and Jamie agree this is “a really good waiver wire week, especially compared to last week.” There’s depth at WR and some running backs emerging (02:19–03:09).
• Roster % nuances: Several players are more available on ESPN or Yahoo than in CBS leagues—keepers need to look at their specific platform’s ownership rates.
• Position scarcity drives priorities: “It’s just about getting running back depth or you’re desperate… It’s position scarcity for [Rodriguez] to be at the top of the list. It’s not about talent.”—Dave (05:58)

Top Waiver Priorities (Week 14 and Playoffs)

Running Backs

• Chris Rodriguez: “Still at the top of the list… just the best of what's available for depth” (04:54; 05:58)
• Devin Singletary: “If you need somebody for the playoffs, I would just skip past Chris Rodriguez and go get Singletary first.”—Jamie (10:36)
• Jordan Mason (if available): “Should be the number one player to add if he’s available because of what his chances are.”—Jamie (09:30)
• Other deep adds: Donovan Knight, Michael Carter, Chuba Hubbard.

Wide Receivers

• Mike Evans: Both crown him the #1 add where possible. “Mike Evans is number one, and it's not close.”—Jamie (06:20)
• Greg Dortch: Prized add if Marvin Harrison Jr. sits. “If [Harrison] sits, then Dortch is great. I agree.”—Dave (06:48)
• Isaac TeSlaa: High-upside one-week streamer. “I like that upside potential… I'll take the chance for one week.”—Jamie (08:29)
• Jaden Higgins, Adonai Mitchell, Devon Vae, Michael Wilson (if available): All worthy in certain formats, with upside and target share discussed at length (07:54; 34:39).
• Chris Godwin: Noted as more available on some platforms; worth adding if Evans remains out.

Tight Ends

• Brenton Strange: "At the top of the list for me. 10.5+ PPR points in each of his past four full games."—Dave (40:41)
• Dalton Schultz: "There's a gap, Harold Fannin is third."—Dave (40:41)
• Dalton Kincaid: Must add if available and healthy.

Quarterbacks

• Jacoby Brissett, Trevor Lawrence, Jaden Daniels in shallow leagues; Marcus Mariota, Tyrod Taylor, Tyler Shough in deeper leagues (28:52).
• “If Trevor Lawrence is available, I still go get him.”—Jamie (28:52)
• “If you need a QB in Week 14, [Mariota’s] the best there is.”—Dave (66:02)

Defenses/Kickers

• Buccaneers DST, Commanders, Dolphins, Chiefs: All worth streaming (41:28)
• Evan McPherson (k): "Fantastic last two games… 36 points in his last two.”—Jamie (42:35)

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FAB (Free Agent Budget) Strategy [17:36–22:33]

• Save to be a playoff 'bully': “If you don't need a player and you're in the playoffs, don’t waste money… be a bully if you can” —Adam (17:36).
• Only spend big if the player is a difference-maker (e.g., Mike Evans, Devin Singletary, Jordan Mason if available).
• Compare your remaining budget to league mates: “Check what everybody else's budget is…”—Jamie (18:47).

Who's Worth More Than 5% FAB? (21:24)

• Mike Evans, Adonai Mitchell, Brenton Strange, Jordan Mason (if available), Chuba Hubbard.

“Maybe Evans should be the priority anyway because… even if you miss on Dortch and Higgins, you can still get Vale or TeSlaa.”—Dave (35:18)

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Position-by-Position Rankings

Quarterbacks (28:52)

• Top Streamers: Marcus Mariota, Tyrod Taylor, Tyler Shough (“not pretty” week, but viable in a pinch).
• Shallow league: Jacoby Brissett, Trevor Lawrence, Jaden Daniels

Running Backs (29:36)

• 1. Chris Rodriguez
• 2. Devin Singletary
• 3. Michael Carter (“It’s gross after that.”—Dave)
• Jordan Mason/Donovan Knight/Chuba Hubbard—all preferred if available.

Wide Receivers (31:25)

• 1. Mike Evans
• 2. Greg Dortch (excellent if MHJ sits)
• 3. Isaac TeSlaa (one-week upside play)
• Alternates: Higgins, Mitchell, Vale (see in-depth debate at 34:39 and 71:13)

Tight Ends (40:41)

• 1. Brenton Strange
• 2. Dalton Schultz
• 3. Harold Fannin Jr.
• Dalton Kincaid—add if available.

DSTs & Kickers (41:28; 42:35)

• DSTs: Buccaneers > Commanders > Dolphins > Chiefs
• Kickers: “Evan McPherson, Harrison Mevis, Fairbairn all strong options.” (42:35)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Mike Evans:
  “If you need someone to help you win your league, Mike Evans is number one and it's not close.” —Jamie (09:09)
• Evaluating Waiver Wire Picks:
  “We're looking at guys that... popped up and done some things for a week or two and then they tend to disappear, unfortunately.” —Jamie (36:44)
• On Greg Dortch’s upside:
  “He averaged, he scored over 16 PPR points in each of the two games that he played without [Marvin] Harrison.”—Jamie (08:29)
• On handcuffs and playoff stashes:
  “I just put almost all the prominent handcuffs in there of guys to go get on your roster.”—Jamie (18:54)
• On trusting upside in the playoffs:
  “I'm attaching Tesla to my team because he's attached to one of the best offenses in football... There's huge upside there.” —Jamie (38:47)

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Key Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------|---------------| | Waiver wire importance & landscape | 02:08–03:09 | | Top shallow-league waivers (WR/RB/QB) | 03:54–04:54 | | Chris Rodriguez vs. other RBs | 04:54–06:18 | | Jamie’s & Dave’s top 3 priorities | 06:20–10:10 | | Discussion of Mike Evans as a stash | 11:42–14:10 | | FAB strategy & “Fabigy” | 17:36–22:33 | | Top 3 at each position for Week 14 | 28:52–33:44 | | Deep-league/dart-throw WRs | 34:39–38:05 | | In-depth reasoning on WR rankings | 40:27–44:46 | | Drop-o-meter discussion | 59:26–64:14 | | Handcuffs and playoff stashes | 64:20–65:43 | | Final ranking/advice round-up | 65:43–67:04 |

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Additional Insights

• Injury landscape: The crew notes significant injuries to key WRs—Marvin Harrison Jr., Amon-Ra St. Brown, T. Higgins—and discusses their ripple effects on waiver-wire WRs (26:51).
• Handcuff strategy: Going into playoffs, prioritize high-upside RB stashes like Ollie Gordon, Keaton Mitchell, Ray Davis, Malik Davis (64:29; 68:51).
• DSTs & Playoff Planning: If clinched, add/swap DSTs for weeks 15–17 based on future matchups, not just this week (41:44).
• Shallow/deep league variations: The guys continuously note how league size/platform impacts recommended pickups.
• Camaraderie & Fantasy Cops: Adam’s stern warning on “no transactions if you missed the playoffs” and the IR spot debate add fun (01:23, 14:22).

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Memorable Moments

• Ongoing debate about the right number of IR spots:
  “Five is excessive.” – Jamie; “It’s not excessive!...those can fill up quickly.” – Adam (14:25)
• Adam threatening dire consequences if eliminated teams make waiver moves:
  “Please, for the love of Pete, do not make any AD drops if you have not made the playoffs.” (24:48)
• Team name gold:
  “Mavis and Butker.” (43:19)
  “Both of their first names are Harrison… Mevis and Butker. Oh, my goodness.” (78:36)
• Heartbreaking FFT Open playoff exits:
  “I was 6 and 1. I lost six in a row.” – Dave (44:07)

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Summary for Listeners

This episode arms fantasy managers with focused waiver wire advice tailored for Week 14 and the playoff run. With key injuries tilting opportunity, the hosts urge you to pounce on Mike Evans if available, target upside one-week WR plays like Dortch/TeSlaa, and insulate your rosters with high-upside RB handcuffs. Use FAB wisely—spend big only on difference makers and track your league’s budgets for efficient bidding. If streaming, attack favorable DST/kicker matchups and prioritize playoff-forward moves. The episode’s blend of tactical insight, rankings debates, and humor makes it a must-listen—or read—for anyone looking to win their league.

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For full position-by-position breakdowns, injury impacts, and FAB percentages, skip to timestamps in the table above. For weekly laughter and listener camaraderie, the IR spot and playoff heartbreak segments are always a treat!

Transcript

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[Jamie Osberg]

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[Dave Richard]

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[Adam]

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[Adam]

Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and, well, you might be able to pick up Jordan Mason or Devin Singletary or Chris Rodriguez. You might go for Adonai Mitchell or maybe a. Maybe Garrett Wilson is there. Maybe Mike Evans is on your waiver wire and he might be playing this week. We welcome you to Fantasy Football today presented by BetMGM. Make it legendary. Week 14 Waiver Wire Week 14 is here and the FFT Open playoffs are starting. So by the way, if you are not in the top four in your FFT Open division, please do not make any transactions or I will rip my eyeballs out. Dave Richard, Jamie Osberg. Good morning, Dave. Big week here. Lot on the line. Fun time of year. How we doing?

[Dave Richard]

I'm doing all right. It is. It is definitely an interesting waiver wire week. And anybody that's in the playoff hunt in their fantasy leagues should be very interested in what's out there.

[Adam]

I think it's. I think it's a really good waiver wire week, Jamie, especially compared to last week.

[Jamie Osberg]

I I Last week was actually good I When I first sat down to do this, write the story. I was like, oh, this sucks. And then I was like, oh, this is actually great. The receivers turned out to be good. Tight ends are good again and we had a couple running backs emerged that could be good, certainly if you extend the parameters of where we draw the line. You know, I, I always enjoy when I see other sites post on Twitter x would you like, who would you rather pick up this weekend, Christian McCaffrey or Jordan Mason? That's not fair. But we have a few guys in the, in the shallow leagues that could be, that could be interesting as well if they're available.

[Adam]

Well, Jordan Mason is 53 rostered on sleeper and it's usually sleep or Yahoo. ESPN are usually pretty similar. I'm just looking this up now. Jordan Mason is on ESPN. He Will you just hurry up? Thank you. 53% roster on ESPN. I won't even look up Yahoo. But yeah, so we can, we can, we'll definitely talk about the shallow guys. In fact, why don't we do that just right now real quick? You know, there, there are a lot of guys like Chris Godwin and, and Mason and Alec Pierce, Christian Watson who are rostered in more than 65% of leagues on CBS. But many of those guys are going to be widely, more widely available on espn, on Yahoo, on Sleeper. So if you include all of those, Jamie, who would the top priorities be?

[Jamie Osberg]

You got to look at Jordan Mason. With Aaron Jones potentially out, he averaged, I believe it was 13 PPR points per game in the four games that he started in place of Jones. You mentioned Alec Pierce. Clearly he's been great in the latter half of the season so far. Christian Watson, two of his last three games been great. You got Trevor Lawrence, Jacoby Brissette, still in that range of quarterbacks. So a little bit better than the group that we're going to talk about. And tight end, you know, we got, I know Kyle Pitts is in there.

[Adam]

I mean, I'll tell you, I, I Kincaid Kincaid against the Bengals. If he plays this week, don't know if he will, but I think the.

[Jamie Osberg]

Fact that he practiced on a limited basis twice last week is a very good sign. And he's probably like, you know, I don't want to face the Steelers. I'll come back next week for the Bengals. It'll be fun.

[Adam]

It will be fun.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah, he'd be a mustard guy easily.

[Adam]

All right, Dave, I'm gonna let you go first then with the top three waiver wire priorities for the players that we typically talk about, who would you go with.

[Dave Richard]

If it's for just week 14, Chris Rodriguez is still at the top of the list. 54 available. He's followed by Brenton Strange. And I don't have a wide receiver in my top two because there are so many wide receivers that are interesting. The supply is pretty good. Jaden Higgins is my favorite. He's available in 49% of leagues and that would be my top three for just this week. You only need to worry about week 14. You're not thinking about the future. But if you are thinking about the future, I think Mike Evans has to top the list. 55% available on CBS and he's an IR stash until he comes back.

[Adam]

All right, I'm going to get to Jamie in just one second. But Chris Rodriguez, I'm surprised he's only 46% rostered, but it is feeling a little lucky.

[Jamie Osberg]

Right?

[Adam]

I mean, he gets pretty much no catches right. In carries, you know, and he scored the touchdown. He's playing well, but he gets Minnesota. They're still pretty good against running backs, I guess, the Giants. That's great, but. Yeah, I don't know. Is that setting you up for a. For a trap here with Chris Rodriguez?

[Dave Richard]

I don't think it's a trap. I think it's just about getting running back depth or you're desperate at running back and this is the best of what's available. It's position scarcity for him to be at the top of the list. It's not about talent if you're looking for a flex. Yeah, I'd probably go Higgins over Rodriguez if it's strictly for a flex spot on a fantasy team, especially if it's ppr.

[Adam]

Okay, Jamie, who are your top three priorities?

[Jamie Osberg]

Mike Evans and is not close would be number one. Greg Dortch would be number two, and then Isaac Tesla would be number three. Oh, man.

[Adam]

Okay, so you went all wide receivers there. Mike Evans.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yes. And the latter two specifically for week 14 because they're looking like they're going to be in pretty prominent spots.

[Adam]

Issue with. Slight issue with Deutsch, obviously. Marvin Harrison's got the seal injury.

[Jamie Osberg]

He's got to sit. Yep.

[Dave Richard]

If he sits, then Deutsch is great. I agree.

[Adam]

I hope so. Two big games against San Francisco and Jacksonville, but he's got the Rams this week and then Houston. So competition steps up a little bit here for. And reset too.

[Jamie Osberg]

Right.

[Adam]

For. For the Cardinals passing game. Does it do the Rams scary at all as a matchup?

[Jamie Osberg]

I mean, it's not as ideal as it was the last two games for Deutsch throwing out the. The week, the Week 13 game against Tampa Bay because Harrison played. So, no, it's not a slam dunk. He's going to be awesome. But you're talking about four teams on a buy. And I'm sure when you start to look at the rankings, I know for me it's not pretty with some of the injuries and some of the players we're talking about. So I think when you look at the receivers, for example, and I agree Higgins should be added, you know, I'm surprised he's only at 51 rostered at this point after what he's done over the last month. We also are seeing clearly, you know, with teams out of playoff contention, that they stopped paying attention in their leagues.

[Dave Richard]

So.

[Jamie Osberg]

So I'm sure that's part of it. But you have Higgins, you have Adnai Mitchell, you have Devon Vale, you have guys that have, you know, started to perform well lately and getting targets. And I think when fantasy managers look at it and they say, okay, do I take the guy in Mitchell who just had this monster game? Do I take the guy in Vale just had this monster game? Do I take the guy to Higgins who has a pretty solid floor, but we know he's not the number one guy in his own team, you know, where at least in Mitchell's case he could be. And in Vale's case, you know, he may get more targets than Higgins based on what he's shown the last two weeks. Like, for me, I'm looking at who has the most upside. And Deutsch showed us what his upside is. He averaged, he scored over 16 PPR points in each of the two games that he played without Harrison. And in the case of Tesla, it's much more of a reach because we haven't seen him have any more than two targets in a game. But we are talking about Detroit's offense against Dallas in what's probably going to be the highest scoring game of the week on paper. And I like that upside potential. So I'll take the chance for one week, you know, so if we're going on days, you know, suggestion of just week 14, like, I'll take Deutsch and Tesla over the field for going for who's going to help me win my league. Mike Evans is number one and it's not close.

[Adam]

Yeah, there's one other guy that not even a consideration in CBS leagues, basically. But he is 64 rostered on sleeper 70 roster on ESPN, 82% roster on Yahoo. He's Michael Wilson. So if Michael Wilson is out there, that would be a huge priority. But I think he's like 95 rostered in CPU.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah. And if we want to extend it a little bit. I know you didn't give Dave this option, but you want to extend this a little bit. You know, Jordan Mason should be the number one player to add if he's available because of what his chances are. And then I think you also got to look at Donovan Knight, you know, if, if Trey Benson doesn't return. Again, same situation taking on the Rams, but he's scored a touchdown in three straight games. He's been over 13 PPR points in three straight games. Clearly he's their favored running back. Michael Carter is going to get touches as well and he's worth adding also. I know we'll talk about him, but I, I think if we're looking at, you know, different sites, you know, those two running backs for me, much better than Chris Rodriguez and you know, guys that you should be picking up and potentially starting this week. Right.

[Dave Richard]

It's just the, the high roster ship on CBS that keeps them from being ahead of Chris Rodriguez. I agree with you. How about another name to throw in there? But it's long term. It's not this week. Chuba Hubbard, who's only 27 available on CBS. I'm sure it's higher on other sites.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah. Now if we are looking ahead with the numbers that we typically deal with, Devin Singletary may be the lead. The, the running back for the Giants potentially. Rest.

[Dave Richard]

Sure, sure, sure.

[Jamie Osberg]

We don't know what Tyrone Tracy's injury, the extent of Tyrone Tracy's injury. And so, you know, I added this late last night to the story which was published yesterday. I put him second behind Rodriguez just because if you need somebody for this week, you're not going to be able to use Singletary. But if you're in the playoffs. Yeah, I would just skip past Chris Rodriguez and I go get them. Singletary first.

[Adam]

Yeah, this is a great call. Singletary only 39 rostered and he's, you know, he scored 30 double digit PPR fantasy points in two of his last three games and could say he might be running better than Tyrone Tracy. I mean he was certainly last night and he gets Washington coming out of the buy. So that's good. It's not so easy after that. But, but yeah, Singletary, it's not horrible.

[Jamie Osberg]

I mean, and then it's Minnesota and then it's Las Vegas. So it's not.

[Adam]

Yeah, it's not as easy.

[Dave Richard]

I'm not scared of any of those matchups.

[Adam]

Okay?

[Jamie Osberg]

So, I mean, I don't know how many people are gonna, you know, look, you're in the fantasy playoffs. It's the semifinals. You're probably not starting him with any without hesitation. You're starting with hesitation against the Vikings. But the other two games, you're probably starting him if you need a running back.

[Adam]

And Jordan Mason against Washington is, is very appealing this week. He's 72 rostered when he was out, when, when Jones was out earlier, it was Carson Wentz with Jordan Mason. But still, you do get a decent amount of running back carries in the McCarthy games. And the only issue is Aaron Jones is apparently day to day. So we don't know that Aaron Jones is actually going to miss this upcoming game. All right, so those are some of the names to know whether it's Chris Rodriguez, Brenton Strange, Jaden Higgins, Dalton Schultz, I'm sure is a good option as well. Mike Evans, Greg Dortch, Isaac Tesla. Let me talk to you about Evans real quick here because, you know, 45% rostered for a guy who has been so good. But in his first three games, there was no Chris Godwin. He scored 10.1, 10.6, 13.3 fantasy points. Now, I give him a pass because he faced, he's faced AJ Terrell, Derek Stingley and Sauce Gardner, but he's coming back to a crowded receiving core. Are we worried that he might be fool's goal, Dave? On, on Mike Evans, you can't rule.

[Dave Richard]

It out because he didn't get off to a great start. We don't know what he'll be like when he does come back, but it's just, it's a lot easier to pick up Mike Evans and put him on your bench. And then if you need him during the fantasy playoffs, you'll have more confidence starting him.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Going back to Jamie's point about Devin Singletary, okay. The only way you'll feel good about starting Devin Singletary in the fantasy playoffs, where it's win or go home, is if he's the only guy in New York's backfield. It's a really good matchup and you, you lean on that. You'd rather have Mike Evans because you know about the pedigree, the track record. Hopefully the quarterback play gets a little bit better. Hopefully Tampa's in a bunch of shootouts and Mike Evans gets seven plus targets. But picking them up and throwing them on your IR or putting them even on your bench just seems like the easiest move you can make. If your team is already ticketed or you think it'll be ticketed to the fantasy playoffs, I. E. You don't need somebody to play to replace a Monroe St. Brown this week or you've been streaming wide receivers and you want to move on from John Metchie or somebody else that you picked up last week who didn't come through.

[Jamie Osberg]

You're forgetting the best thing about Mike Evans. If he, let's just say he doesn't play this week, comes back next week, he's 860 yards away from another thousand yard season. So he's going to average 200 plus yards per game in his final four. I mean it's going to be the most incredible thing we've ever seen.

[Adam]

It's so funny.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah.

[Adam]

And people, this Mike Evans roster percentage just shows me that you don't, you don't have enough IR spots in your leagues. Okay, I, when I'm the commissioner of a league, I give five IR spots and it might sound excessive but those fill, those can fill up pretty quickly.

[Jamie Osberg]

No, that's excessive.

[Adam]

It's not excessive. There's no reason why Mike Evans should be on waivers and he's 40.

[Dave Richard]

What number do you give Jamie at? Five is excessive?

[Jamie Osberg]

Two. It's really the most incredible thing that you, who is like the most stringent commissioner in the history of commissioners, are so carefree with your IR spots.

[Adam]

Not carefree at all. First of all, I think Jamie's lying. I think he gives more than two.

[Jamie Osberg]

Nope.

[Adam]

I'm gonna, I'm gonna. Yes. Five in the FFT league. Let's go to the Super Flex league. I believe we have five in that one too. He doesn't in the FFT or in the Super Flex League.

[Jamie Osberg]

Sand to drop Joe Burrow.

[Adam]

How many did we get in that league?

[Dave Richard]

2.

[Adam]

Oh, it's a terrible league. You made him drop Joe Burrow in a super flex league.

[Jamie Osberg]

I didn't make him do anything. But I picked up Joe Burrow because.

[Adam]

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[Jamie Osberg]

Know, give you an example. Different league style, but I saved the most money going into the Week 14 stretch run in our Guillotine League and Devon HN just became available. So I just got a text from somebody in the league. How much are you gonna spend on HN? And I know that 175 is the next highest amount of money, so I said I'm going to spend 176 just to make sure I get them.

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Thank you for bringing that up. I've seen people spend all their fab on a player they really want when all you need to do is spend $1 more than who Than the next, you know, then the person who has the next most.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah, check what everybody else's budget is.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, it's the price is right rule.

[Adam]

All right, so if we were going to give quick fab advice, Jamie, what.

[Jamie Osberg]

Would it be for this week on these players? I think you said it. You know, it's one of those scenarios of, you know, if there's a player out there that you think is a difference maker. So let's start with the teams at the top. If you have a buy and you don't need anybody for this week, you look at Mike Evans, you look at Devin Singletary, you overlook Chris Rodriguez, you overlook Dorch and, and Tesla and Higgins and any of the other receivers that you think just may be okay, you're looking for league winning type of guys. And so I know for me, with the teams that I'm confident are going to the playoffs, you know, I'm gonna just try and manage this week unless there's a seating situation I'm trying to do. But you know, again, looking at who is going to be impactful in weeks 15 and beyond. So if you look at the, the column and we'll talk about this, I'm sure we get to the running backs, like, I just put almost all the prominent handcuffs in there of guys to go get on your roster. So like, if you've been holding out hope for, let's say, Taize Spears, I know he's not the best example because he would still be decent if Tony Pollard got hurt. But you saw what Ray Davis just did against the Steelers. You know, what he did in the one game that he played for James Cook last year, you know what that offense is like. Ray Davis is a league winner, Taije Spears is maybe a flex. So the, if that makes sense to the type of guys that you're looking to handcuff or keep on your bench, you know, so if you have those type of players out there and again it's case by case, but you have now Ollie Gordon and Keaton Mitchell and you know, obviously Brian Robinson, you know, those, those type of players that are available that if an injury, Blake Corum, an injury occurs, they're going to win your league. So I know you asked about fab, so I'm sorry, but in the case of, of fab, check the other league, the rest of your league and what their budget is and then just keep an eye on what you still may need in the final couple of weeks because you don't obviously leave yourself short because spent in week 14. But to me, Evans is the prize I would spend, you know, maybe up to half of what you have left at the minimum to make sure you get okay. So the quarterback's not so much, you know, Rodriguez, I don't think it's gonna cost you very much because we've been saying his name since.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Jamie Osberg]

Before their bye week. You know, so we're, we're two or three weeks into this of mentioning Chris Rodriguez, Singletary, this is your favorite thing because people will look at the projected stats and he's not going to be listed. And so don't forget about Devin Singletary when you make your waiver moves because he's going to have no, no stats for being on a buy.

[Dave Richard]

Would it be just easier to mention the players that we would spend more than 2% of our original fab on as we roll through the show? Like I agree with you, Mike Evans. I don't know about it. I don't know how much remaining fab everybody has left but. And I don't know if I want to spend, you know, 40 of my original fab on a guy who I don't know when he's coming back. I don't know good he'll be when he does come back. But there, there really are only a handful of players I think will be in demand in fab leagues. And I'm talking north of 5% of OG budgets.

[Adam]

Who are they?

[Dave Richard]

But so when we, when we talk about players today, we should probably mention.

[Adam]

Go ahead.

[Dave Richard]

Which ones? Well, I mean, to me, Evans qualifies. I think you'll see people, I think you'll people see people spend up for AD 9. Mitchell, because of the game that he had. I don't know if he's. He's probably worth it just to have. If you need a wide receiver, I don't know if they're going to do that for Tesla, maybe for Strange. Who else have we talked about? Not for Rodriguez, probably not for Singletary, maybe Chuba and certainly Mason if they're out there. But as we go along, I'll.

[Jamie Osberg]

I'll.

[Dave Richard]

If a name comes up, I'll say, yeah, that's a guy who's more than 5%.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Jamie Osberg]

All right.

[Adam]

Well, that is a little discussion about Fabaji, which amateur hour on our chat says, fabaji is the worst thing I've ever heard. Ever.

[Dave Richard]

Well, and he would know because it's amateur hour.

[Adam]

Yes, good point. All right. Excuse me. FFT Open starts. The playoffs start today. So if you're in the FFT Open and you look at the standings. I haven't set the playoff matchups yet. I will. If you're one of the first four names listed, that means you made the playoffs. If you have the same record as one as the first four listed and you're not top four, that means you didn't make the playoffs by virtue of tiebreaker, which in this case would be total points. So please, for the love of Pete, do not make any AD drops if you have not made the playoffs. And the playoffs work like this. In the FFT Open, the top four seeds advance. The number one seed has a buy this week. 2, 3 and 4. You're just going to set a lineup, make your ad drops, do whatever you can. Highest scoring team from 2, 3, 4 seeds this week moves on to week 15 to face the one seed and the one seed versus that player versus that team in week 15. If you win that, you win your division, the Dave division, the Jamie division, the Adam division, whatever it is, you win. The Division 24 division winners will compete in week 16. And I'm sorry, I can't remember if we went with 12 or eight advancing to the finals in week 17. It's in the rules. It's not like I'm going to make it up. There's a document with the written rules, so try to. I can probably find that now. But anyway, you'll set your lineup and then either 12 or 8 will advance and then you'll set your lineup again in week 17. And whoever wins that wins the FFT Open. And I will tell you how many people advance in a moment. Also, we have advanced to. Speaking of advancing, we have advanced to the semifinals in the. Or the final four. I guess we should call it in the 64.com Best Sports Talk Radio podcasts in America. We are up against the Tony koreheiser [e-mail]. I don't think somebody knows who that is.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah, right.

[Adam]

Who's that? I don't think voting has opened yet. So for those of you in the chat who said you voted, you are lying. But that's okay, Joe. I'll let you know when. When voting opens. Do we know when it opens? Starts today. Yeah, it starts today at some point, but I don't think it's open. So just go to the64.com and vote for us. Okay, back to the show.

[Jamie Osberg]

Some of the suggestions I have for you. If we win, you're going to streak for 64 seconds.

[Adam]

That's not happening.

[Jamie Osberg]

You could do it in your house.

[Adam]

No, I have too many windows.

[Jamie Osberg]

Are you going to streak for 64 seconds? You're going to eat 64 slices of pizza in a week. You're going to tell Dan 64 dad.

[Adam]

Jokes that we can do.

[Jamie Osberg]

I've been giving you a bunch. You are going to. What was the other one I said? Oh, there it is. You're going to let me say Shiitake 64 times on air.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Jamie Osberg]

And you're going to watch Die Hard 64 times on Christmas.

[Adam]

That's physically impossible. The pizza one is the most appealing. I want to do it, but I think it'd be pretty irresponsible. News and notes. Justin Herbert. Not sure.

[Jamie Osberg]

Thomas's creation as well. That was.

[Adam]

All right, let's show it. We'll show it. Justin Herbert has a. Has a broken bone. He had surgery yesterday. Is non throwing hand. And how much confidence you're gonna have in Justin Herbert if he starts.

[Jamie Osberg]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

You have to get all these tattoos if you. If we win, Adam.

[Jamie Osberg]

Oh, man.

[Adam]

All right. How much confidence are you gonna have in Justin Herbert if he starts anyway? If I have Justin Herbert and he's gonna start, I should be probably looking for other options, right?

[Jamie Osberg]

You have to. I mean, it's. It's not only just that he's dealing with a hand injury. Like if he was perfectly fine. You're talking about facing the Eagles on extended rest after a loss with that offensive line still being a mess. Like this has got disaster written all over it for Dustin Herbert. So I almost put him in the drop list of. Of quarterbacks just because the rest of their schedule is brutal as well. I would imagine, though, if you saw the list of the players that were going to add and Justin Herbert was available. You'd be adding Justin Herbert over those guys. So not easy. I I wouldn't be comfortable starting him in one quarterback leagues this week.

[Adam]

His next two matchups are the Eagles and the Chiefs. I don't know that I would even. Maybe I'm just too down on him, but I'm not sure I would pick him up. But JJ McCarthy three straight games, under.

[Jamie Osberg]

20 fantasy points or four straight games.

[Adam]

Yeah. As I mentioned on beyond the Box Score yesterday though, it was different this time. They actually were running a normal professional offense. It was not him getting rid of the ball super quick and being on his back. Yeah. Jason McCarthy expected back this week. Not set in stone but looking good. Jaden Daniels uncertain for this week. Minnesota is playing Washington. Shadow Sanders is going to start. Tyrone Tracy's got a hip injury, Aaron Jones shoulder, Kyron Williams ankle, but he appears to be okay. I'm on Ross St. Brown ankle. They're playing Thursday against Dallas. Khalif Raymond was also listed as a dnp did not practice on Monday. So Tesla, Tom Kennedy, they have an opportunity. Mike Evans could play this week. Parker Washington hip Drake London is day to day. He might be able to get back this week against Seattle. T. Higgins is still in the concussion protocol. Marvin Harrison Jr. Heel injury. We actually have some pretty significant wide receiver injuries this week, unfortunately with St. Brown, London, Higgins, Marvin Harrison Jr. We'll keep an eye on all of those. I don't think there's any really tight end injuries to know about unless I'm crazy. There are a lot of off. Kincaid, right. Kincaid we're hoping gets back. The Vikings are beat up on the offensive line. The Patriots are beat up. They're going into their bye. The Chiefs are beat up on their offensive line. The Cowboys left tackle Tyler Guyton missed practice or was listed as did not practice. The Browns, they're facing Tennessee, which is great, but they could be doing. They'll be doing it without Wyatt Teller, their right guard and maybe tackle Jack Conklin. And defensively, Sauce Gardner is going to miss some time. It doesn't look like he's going on ir. Lions lost another defensive back, but they could be getting their safety Kirby Joseph back. Defensive tackle Devonte Wyatt for Green Bay. He's out for the season and they've been really good against the run. That could be a big deal for them not having him. They get Chicago this week and Chicago is a pretty good run team. Okay, top three at each position. Jamie, who are the top three quarterbacks, buckle up.

[Jamie Osberg]

We got Marcus Mariota would be the number one guy just based on what he's done. Body of work, four of six games over. 20 fantasy points in place of Jane Daniels, I have to. Rod Taylor second and Tyler Schuck third. So again, working under the numbers that we typically do, under 65. If Trevor Lawrence is available, I still go get him. If Jacoby Brissette's available, I still start him this week, even with the matchup against the Rams. But Mariota against Minnesota, Tirade against the Dolphins, and Chuck against the Bucks.

[Adam]

Brissette would be number one.

[Jamie Osberg]

I have Brissette number one. Yes. Of that group. Okay.

[Adam]

Over Lawrence, Dave, running backs. Top three running backs.

[Jamie Osberg]

Rod.

[Dave Richard]

Well, this is if it's at the threshold. So we're not including the players that are available in shallow leagues, but Chris Rodriguez is at the top. Devin Singletary close second. You can flip them if you don't need a running back for week 14. And then it's gross after that. It's Michael Carter, it's Blake Coram, it's eight PPR point. Taj Spears.

[Adam]

Okay, I'll just put handcuffs, but yeah, Jordan Mason would be number one, right?

[Dave Richard]

I mean, if he was available, sure.

[Adam]

Well, it's interesting to say I don't need anyone this week. Do I go with Jordan Mason or Devin Singletary? What's your thought there?

[Dave Richard]

I think I'd go Singletary because it sounds like Aaron Jones could be back. And if Aaron Jones comes back, the worst thing you could do is spend a bunch of fab or use a high waiver priority on somebody who you then don't have any confidence in starting. It's one of the reasons why I didn't have Greg Dortch at the top of the list this week because if Marvin Harrison comes back, he's useless. Same thing with Jordan Mason. If you spend fab on him and Aaron Jones is okay, I'm not going to feel good about starting Jordan Mason. So give me Singletary if. Especially if it's long term.

[Adam]

Okay, so quarterbacks are Marcus Mariota against Minnesota, which is a tough matchup. Tyrod Taylor against the Dolphins. And sorry, refresh my memory. Who does Tyler Shuck get? He gets the Bucks, Tampa Bay. Good matchup for him. Chris Rodriguez, Devin Singletary, he's on a buy. And then get some handcuffs. Jordan Mason, though, against Washington would be.

[Jamie Osberg]

Don't forget Donovan Knight, too. He's just above the numbers that we talk about.67.

[Adam]

He gets the Rams this year.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I'd Rather have Knight than Rodriguez easily.

[Adam]

Okay. Okay. All right, Jamie, top three wide receivers.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah, for me, Evans is one, I have Dorch second and then Tesla third. So you know, again in the case of the latter two, looking at the injuries and most likely it's a one week situation because we don't know how long Harrison's going to be out. And the reports are that St. Brown will miss this week's game but hoping, hoping to return next week. So just great situations for both Dortch, you've already seen it. And for Tesla, great matchup and hopefully gets a target bump. So I like the setup for those two guys. If you can't use Evans for this week and there's, there's still a chance that Evans plays this week, you know, it's not necessarily a completely, he's not completely been ruled out yet.

[Adam]

A lot of tough calls at wide receiver because you look at Tesla and St. Brown got hurt pretty early in that game. Tesla ran a bunch of routes. You got two targets, almost all of them. Yeah, but it's facing Dallas. I mean they're number one in terms of fantasy points allowed. They're number 32 to, to wide receiver. So it's the best matchup there is. I mean he was outshined by Tom Kennedy though, so that's tough. And then you've got like Chris Godwin out there. Yeah, go ahead.

[Dave Richard]

He ran a lot of cardio. He was almost their clear out guy.

[Adam]

We call that, we call that pure soling.

[Dave Richard]

He was pure sawing for sure and he wasn't even the first read on the touchdown that he had. And it's weird that he's the clear out guy because he's not. I don't, I don't know where he ranks on the team in terms of speed, but he's more of like a good utility receiver than someone who's going to get open because he's fast. And so the hope is all right, it's a great matchup. Detroit's going to have to throw a lot. Tesla is clearly going to play. Maybe they give him more opportunities because Aman Ross St. Brown is out and they have a week to actually game plan for it. But he, he makes me nervous to put as a high priority this week at wide receiver. Dorch easily ahead of him for me. Higgins is ahead of him. Adnai Mitchell is ahead of him. If you can find Chris Godwin, this is another player that's available in like 32% of CBS leagues. I put him ahead of Tesla. I hesitate a little bit with Devon Vale and I might not put him ahead of Tesla, but we should talk about Devon Vale at some point on this show because he looked amazing for New Orleans last week. So Tesla has a good opportunity. He had a great opportunity last week and he just didn't come through. And so I'm a little nervous that he could just end up being a guy who plays a lot and doesn't get a lot of targets.

[Adam]

All right, what we'll do today is we'll. We won't spend much time on the Giants Patriots game. We'll definitely save time toward the end of the show. Unless you want to get into it now. I mean, we could just get in. Let's get into it now because wide receiver is tough and I think that you can make. This is the same thing last week. In fact, it's the same thing a lot of weeks. We have a lot of guys that Jamie's going to put an order out there in his waiver wire column and it's a very debatable order. You can make cases for and against these guys. Like Dave, I know you were watching the Devon Vale tape and he really jumped out at you. And Vale has how many targets in his last two games? He has 15 targets in his last two games facing the Bucks. They've been a little leaky in the secondary. Mitchell has AD and I. Mitchell has 19 targets in his last two games. You know, Jaden Higgins is a solid double digit PPR fantasy point guy pretty much every week now, except when he faced Denver. Obviously there's Dorset that Jamie's made the case for Tesla.

[Dave Richard]

So.

[Adam]

Yeah, I mean, Dave, do you want to. You want to give your. Your order? I'll give you the names. All right, so if. Let's say Evans is one, Jamie Evans.

[Dave Richard]

Will be one, Jamie goes. Assuming you don't need a guy this week.

[Adam]

Yeah. Deutsch 2, Tesla 3, Higgins, Jaden Reed is on there. Adonai Mitchell, Devon Vale, Andre Yosef.

[Dave Richard]

Okay, so what am I doing? I'm giving my.

[Adam]

What do you think? What's big difference in your rankings.

[Dave Richard]

And Jamie's just having it sounds like I've got Higgins and Mitchell higher than Tesla.

[Adam]

Okay, what about Deutsch?

[Dave Richard]

Here's the thing. And, and you mentioned that just the supply of receivers that are available is huge. So I, you know, 30 seconds ago I said Mike Evans is the priority unless you need somebody for this week. How about this? Maybe Evan should be the priority anyway because. All right, maybe you miss on Mitchell and, and Dortch and Higgins but you can still get Vale or Tesla. You can get a Packers wide receiver. I'm sure there's going to be interest in Don Tavian Wicks. I, I talked to a friend yesterday who was chopping at the bit to get Dontavan Wicks on his fantasy team. He's in a 16 team league because he had a big game on Thursday and he thinks that it'll continue. I don't agree. Yeah, pretty much every other receiver that we've talked about I'd rather have than Don Tavian Wicks, but I get it. And there's going to be people that go after that and there, there's still other receivers even after all these guys that you could make the case for. You have to squint a little hard to say, okay, maybe there's something with Josh Downs, maybe there's something. Maybe there's something with Jerry Judy because he's got the Titans this week. It's the grossest thing I think I've ever said, but there could be something there. Mooney is still out there in a bunch of leagues. So maybe prioritizing Evans, whether you need them or not this week, maybe that's a direction you can go in. Especially if 12 team league, four teams.

[Jamie Osberg]

Are out of it, they're not going.

[Dave Richard]

To bother doing ad drops. Maybe you can get two of the top three or four receivers on the list.

[Adam]

Jamie, anything to add?

[Jamie Osberg]

No, I, I mean, again, it's, it's kind of been the theme of the season that these guys have popped up and yeah, you know, done some things for a week or two and then they tend to disappear, unfortunately, you know, and then they at times pop up again, like Case on Booty last night, for example, you know, so we're going to see, you know, some of these players. The, the thing I would caution against and why I have them a little bit lower in Mitchell and Vale is they've been getting targets and they finally had a decent game. And you're talking about questionable quarterback situations, unquestionable players. And so like Higgins is worth investing in because you've seen a body of work now for about five or six weeks and I think you know what his role is like he's playing the second most snaps of the wide receiver position group. So he's playing ahead of Kirk, he's playing ahead of, of Noel. Noel and he's, you know, getting chances and converting them. He's also sharing the field with Nico Collins and Dalton Schultz who are essentially dominating targets, you know, so I think in the case of like for me I'm taking the chance on what the upside for these one week situations can be more so than those other young receivers like Higgins. Long term is clearly safer than Deutsch most likely and and certainly Tesla. But for week 14 I like their setups much better because they could be league winning type of guys. You've seen it with Dorch.

[Adam]

Which guys are. Sorry. Just in case people are lost saying I like their setups for week 14. They could be league winning. We are weak winning type of guys. Whatever. Which guys are you referring to? Deutsch.

[Jamie Osberg]

I'm referring to Deutsche and Tesla. So that's why they're second and third for me.

[Dave Richard]

So I agree with you on Dorch and he's to me he. If you don't want to deal with Evans or maybe Evans isn't even available, just go get Dortch first and see what happens with with Marvin Harrison. And if Harrison ends up playing then you cut Deutsch and you pick up who's ever left the next best guy at wide receiver. And it could end up being Tesla. That wouldn't be that I'd be satisfied with that.

[Adam]

Just like to have seen something in the career of Isaac Tesla. You know that before we start him in in week 14.

[Jamie Osberg]

Oh listen, I think once you like if. If everybody plays this week. The only starter for me in a two receiver league is Evans. These other guys are three receiver league options at best. So I look at that spot always as can somebody be a difference maker Unless I just have three studs. And so in the case of Deutsch, he's been solid in the two games. One was garbage time, one was great. But you're seeing a quarterback that's throwing the ball consistently 40 plus times. I don't think that changes against the Rams. In the case of Tesla, I'm attaching him to my team because he's attached to one of the best offenses in football. No matter what you think of Dan Campbell calling plays and some of the stupidity that we've seen certainly last week. Like there's huge upside there. So I totally agree. There's immense downside. There's no floor but the ceiling could be great. You know and I'll just piggyback on on what Dave was talking about. Yes, he did not get involved last week. This is an entirely different week. They are game planning without Saint Brown. They are doing things. It might be Kennedy could be targeting the wrong guy. Totally get that. But you're down St. Brown, you're down Laporta. You're down. Brock Wright, you're down. Khalif Raymond, it's going to be a high scoring game. The secondary stinks for Dallas. That to me is what I'm looking at there. And that's the only thing I'm looking at. So Tesla may be a huge bust, but so maybe is it Mitchell, the game before the first two games with the jets, he was terrible. He decided he can catch the ball against the Dolphins and it worked out. Devon Vale in the first two games after Rashid he left was terrible. He decided to catch the ball against Miami. So I don't know. You want to chase that? I hope it works out. I think it could be great to me, I'm gonna, you know, go with the better quarterback and the better offense.

[Adam]

Okay, so. And yeah, just seeing another thing about Michael Wilson. If he's available in your league. Michael Wilson is a slam donkey. Go get him. He's just not available in CBS leagues. Who's on tight ends? Jamie, I think. No, Dave. Top three tight ends.

[Dave Richard]

Brian Strange is at the top of the list for me. Ten and a half PPR points or more in each of his past four full games. Dalton Schultz is second. There's a gap Harold Fan and his third Harold Fan and barely makes the threshold for us. He's available in 36% of CBS leagues.

[Adam]

And if Dalton Kincaid is available and he comes back, you'll be happy to have him against Cincinnati this week.

[Dave Richard]

Yes. Yes.

[Adam]

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[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah. Even though you should be adding Tyler Shuck, you also should be adding the Buccaneers dst and their schedule the rest of the way is pretty favorable as well. So they've been spotty at times. They've had some big games at times this season, but I think just taking a chance on the team facing the Saints is the best way to go.

[Adam]

Okay, you have the other DSTs, Buccaneers commanders, they got Minnesota. The Dolphins have been doing pretty well defensively. They're at the jets and the Chiefs get Houston. Also, we should mention if you don't need a DST this week, if you've clinched the playoffs, then you may have a buy whatever. But whenever your next whatever your first playoff matchup is, look for DSTs that week. Look at week 15 look at week 16. Don't even bother with week 14 if you don't need one. This week. That was coverage you can count on. Sponsored by Nationwide. Nationwide is so much more than a great insurance company. They're one of America's largest financial services companies, too. For your insurance and financial needs, Nationwide is on your side. Nationwide Investment Services Corporation Member FINRA Columbus, Ohio who are the kickers that we're going to stream?

[Jamie Osberg]

Evan McPherson. He's been fantastic in his last two games. And, you know, if the Bengals continue to move the ball like they probably will with Joe Burrow and struggle in the red zone like they did against the Ravens, we could see another huge game. 24 fantasy points last week, depending on your league scoring, but 36 points in his last two games. Harrison. Is it Mavis?

[Dave Richard]

Yes.

[Adam]

Shut up.

[Jamie Osberg]

Mavis had to make that joke yesterday. Mavis gets the Cardinals. They've been very forgiving to opposing kickers and allowing points for Ali Patterson and Mavis both coming off games with their multiple field goals. And I just think Fairbairn is always going to be consistent and, you know, in the top 12 range. So. Tough matchup at Kansas City, but still, you should pick them up.

[Dave Richard]

Team name Tuesday. On a Tuesday. Mavis and Butker.

[Adam]

Dude.

[Jamie Osberg]

Wow. You guys are sharing the same brain.

[Adam]

I just said.

[Dave Richard]

Is that what you had?

[Adam]

I said it like a 30 seconds ago, but I know you didn't hear it because I said I didn't hear it and obviously I didn't hear Jamie, but yeah, I did come up with. I did say that yesterday. Yes. Mavis and Butker.

[Dave Richard]

Okay.

[Adam]

Yes. Good job.

[Dave Richard]

I'm in good company.

[Adam]

High five.

[Dave Richard]

I'm sorry, I didn't hear you 30 seconds ago.

[Adam]

The FFT Open, by the way, the top eight seeds advanced to that. Top eight teams from week 16 advanced to week 17. So 24 teams make it to week 16. They set their lineups independently. They're all in different leagues. And then the top eight highest scoring teams from week 16 advanced to week 17. Did you guys make the playoffs?

[Jamie Osberg]

Yes.

[Dave Richard]

No.

[Adam]

Yeah, me either. Dave had a heartbreaking collapse.

[Dave Richard]

I. I was 6 and 1. I lost six in a row.

[Jamie Osberg]

Oh, no.

[Dave Richard]

Three losses. The first three losses were by five points or fewer each.

[Jamie Osberg]

Oh, man.

[Dave Richard]

And then injuries completely crushed my team and I got blown out by like 15 plus points in my last three losses. I'm out. It sucks. It hurts it.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah. Not proud.

[Adam]

That proud. Morning. You lose those games by. By less than five points, your team's confidence just goes in the tank. That's what happened there. So you got it. You know, it's bad coaching.

[Dave Richard]

Well, it's. It's an immediate reflect. Right. That's a reflection on lineup decisions more than anything else.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Jamie Osberg]

If I could find one receiver. I love my chances.

[Adam]

I just. We just named like six.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah. But they're all. Well, first off, I've been carrying Evans on IR spot because I picked him up after he was Terry McLaren a couple weeks ago. So I picked him up. So hopefully he's going to be the. The guy that car. But I lost Garrett Wilson. Zay Flowers has been terrible. Trying to think who my other starter was. Maybe Metcalf terrible, like. But just got Bucky Irving back. And I have Jonathan Taylor, Jameer Gibbs and Bucky.

[Adam]

Let's go.

[Jamie Osberg]

That could be the difference maker there.

[Adam]

That'd be great. All right, we're gonna take a break. By the way, Jamie is the Commissioner of our IDP League. Five IR spots in the IDP League. We'll be right back on. Fantastic.

[Jamie Osberg]

IDP is different. I would definitely say five. Five in an IDP League. 100 and Dynasty as well. But in redraft, if I have five in the FFT league, that will change.

[Adam]

No, keep it. All right. We'll be right back.

[Jamie Osberg]

Next year we'll change.

[Dave Richard]

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[Adam]

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[Dave Richard]

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[Jamie Osberg]

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[Dave Richard]

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[Dave Richard]

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[Jamie Osberg]

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[Dave Richard]

Let's drive.

[Jamie Osberg]

Speaking of bad beats, I had a game last night which if I won, I'd still be the 1 seed. If I lost, I fall to the 3 seed. Still gonna make the playoffs, but lost by 0.6 points with Stefan Diggs. I had Diggs down 5 and lost Stefan.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, that was pretty. Only played 48 of the snaps. That was terrible. Yeah, but it's. I don't know how everybody else feels, but I feel like there's been way more of those types of games this year in fantasy than in the past. I've talked about before. There was a week earlier this season. I lost a game by 0.04 and I won a game in a different league by 0.04. I thought, yeah, countless wins and losses by like five points or fewer all year long. It's been crazy.

[Jamie Osberg]

You mentioned our IDP league. It's 28 man rosters, I think, right?

[Adam]

Yeah, I think so.

[Jamie Osberg]

I tied Alfredo Brown in the decimal scoring league.

[Adam]

Oh, a decimal. Holy moly. All right, let's get on with it here and let's talk about the shallow league guys. We've kind of done this already, so I don't think we need to be too repetitive. But Jacoby Brissette, you know, interesting about Brissette, if he's still available. Jamie, he does have the Rams and the Texans. So do you still think that he can continue this streak of 20 plus fantasy points every week in his next two matchups? Home against the Rams at Houston this week?

[Jamie Osberg]

Yes, and we'll see what happens after this week. But I think just based on volume, he's just been throwing the ball so much and how this game should probably unfold. You know, Rams coming off a loss, but Stafford still very much in the MVP race and probably going to throw the ball a lot. We get the shootout that we're hoping for, which has been what's benefited Brissette so much. So if this was everybody available, no teams on a buy, he probably is outside the top 12. For me, he's inside the top 10.

[Adam]

So who would you rather have? You're just going to pick up one Trevor Lawrence, Jacoby Brissette or Jaden Daniels.

[Jamie Osberg]

So this comes down to probably, am I in the playoffs or, or need to win this week? Because Jane Daniels has the most upside of that trio. But Brissetta has just been playing so well. So you mentioned weeks 14 and 15. I believe week 16 and 17 is good for Brissette too.

[Dave Richard]

He's got Atlanta and Cincinnati.

[Jamie Osberg]

So you get this championship game with Brissette, like, that's amazing.

[Adam]

All right, how about running back Lawrence.

[Jamie Osberg]

I think is good this week? I just don't, I, I, I don't know what to expect from the Colts defense at this point without Sauce Gardner there. You know, the secondary that was looking like it was going to be amazing. I think Trevor will still be okay, but he's just outside the top 12.

[Adam]

Okay, shallow league running backs we have, we haven't even said Devin Neal's name yet, but let's say Bam Knight, Devin Neal, Jordan Mason and Chuba Hubbard are all available. Jamie, how would you prioritize? Bam Knight, Devin Neal, Jordan Mason, Chuba.

[Jamie Osberg]

Hubbard Mason would be one just with the end hope that he plays. He starts this week and then their schedule is amazing. Like imagine if J.J. mcCarthy was playing well. My goodness, it'd be fantastic for Minnesota. But Mason would be one with the. The chance of Jones maybe missing this week or maybe being out for an extended period of time again, he's day to day, so we just don't know. And then it would be bam. Night. Second Devin Neal probably Chuba. Third Devin Neal fourth. Just because I think, you know, Neil got a lot of work last week against Miami. Didn't do a lot with it in terms of his production. 14 carries, 47 yards, three catches like he was. He's going to be a flex at best. I think if you know Chuba is going to be in a timeshare with that offense. How they use both guys last week. Like Chuba could still be a number two running back. So like Chuba slightly better. But it would be. It would be Mason and Knight, the top two.

[Adam]

Okay. And then wide receivers. Alec Pierce, Garrett Wilson, Christian Watson, Chris Godwin. Got some big names there. Who'd you rather step? I guess it has to be Evans because he's actually making progress. We don't know if Garrett Wilson's even going to come back. I haven't seen anything on him. But if you look at Alec Pierce, Christian Watson, Chris Godwin, how would you rank them?

[Jamie Osberg]

I would go Pierce, Watson, Godwin.

[Adam]

Okay. And then tight end. We've got Dalton Kincaid, Juwan Johnson. Johnson's at Tampa Bay this week. Kincaid gets the Bengals. Kyle Pitts with Seattle, but it's a great matchup. But maybe Drake London coming back. Zach ertz coming off a ten catch game. He's got Minnesota.

[Jamie Osberg]

Darren, 18 targets his last two games.

[Adam]

Yeah, and with McLaren, I mean how many pass attempts did Mario to have? Like 40, 50. 50. Right. 50 and 10 carries. A lot of usage for Mariota. Anywho, who's. Who is this?

[Jamie Osberg]

Denver, no less.

[Adam]

Yeah. Who are the best shallow league tight ends?

[Jamie Osberg]

So you got to go kincaid1 just with the matchup and he was, you know, playing very well before he got hurt. Four of his first six games he was I think it was 11 PPR points or more. So got off to a good start before the injury. And the matchup against Cincinnati is just worth it on its own. I would take a chance on pits next just with Drake London not coming back if that's the case. And then the matchup against Seattle. Or I guess you go Juwan Johnson next just because of what he's done his body work. Only four games this season, under 10 PPR points. And I know he didn't do it last week, but still got nine targets and that's, you know, something you could say. Okay, they're, they're still trying to get him involved. So Juwan Johnson would be second probably. It's tough between pits and earths just because I don't want to be chasing that big game from Ertz against Denver. But this matchup this week is not bad against Minnesota and you look ahead to the rest of the schedule for him, so it probably should be earth's over pitch just because if London does return. So I'm, I'm talking myself through this, so I'll go. Kincaid 1, Johnson 2. Urge 3, pits 4.

[Dave Richard]

Where does Brenton Strange fit in?

[Jamie Osberg]

I would probably put Strange second ahead of Juwan Johnson in the group.

[Adam]

There's a little bit of a concerning number for Brenton Strange. He's had a Target share over 18.4% only once this season. He's not earning a lot of targets.

[Jamie Osberg]

But now Parker Washington may miss some time.

[Adam]

Yeah, but, but before, like there was no Jacoby Myers. There was no Brian Thomas Jr. Yeah.

[Jamie Osberg]

Well, I mean, they say there was no Jacoby Myers was the first start of the season for him. He played four games. In three of those, he had Travis Hunter.

[Adam]

I mean, that's fair, but. All right, he's not earning a lot of. He has an 18.6%.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah, look, you, you're, you got lucky with the touchdown last week. You know, in terms of his production, you know, three catches, 45 yards. The week before when Trevor Lawrence had to throw the ball, it was five catches for over 90 yards, you know, so I think you're just looking at somebody who's going to be a, a part of this offense that is tight end friendly. And his last four healthy games he's been over 10 PPR points. So it still feels like it's a good spot to be in, especially the way that Trevor Lawrence is throwing the ball to him.

[Adam]

He also. Yeah, no, straight. I was getting to that. Strange has a better matchup than Schultz this week. Strange has the Colts. Schultz is at Kansas City. Teams are so bad in Arrowhead. So that's. If you're looking for a differentiator between those two. I know we're kind of off this shallow league topic here and honestly, I feel like I'm wasting time, Dave, because none of these guys are available at my league. Dalton, Kincaid, Bear, who's in the deep leagues.

[Dave Richard]

Dave Mariota, quarterback is available in 72% of leagues. But if you need a quarterback in those deep leagues, you're. You're not going to like what you see. Or it's to Rod Taylor, it's Tyler Shock, it's Trey Lance, who's 99 available. What happens if Justin Herbert can't play? There's probably some other stiffs that are available in much deeper leagues. Running back Devin Singletary is 61, Michael Carter 89, and Jaleel McLaughlin's at 65. Keaton Mitchell's at 90. Maybe there's a little bit more run for him if. If Justice Hill is out again. Although Rashin Ali ended up taking a lot of that workload away from both Henry and Keaton Mitchell last week. So it's really bad at running back if you're. If you're looking for a running back in a deeper league. We talked about a lot of the wide receivers that are available. Dorch would headline it at 83% available. Ad Nai Mitchell, 95% available. Tesla, 95% available. Devon Vale, 99% available. And then at tight end, Colby Parkinson didn't have a good game last week, but before that, he was on a touchdown run. Arizona's terrible against tight ends, so maybe you can go back to Colby Parkinson. Isaiah likely had an uptick in usage. He's available, available in 83% of leagues.

[Adam]

I'm glad you mentioned Michael Carter because you talked about Tajie Spears earlier. As you know, 8ish PPR fantasy points. Well, that's what Michael Carter is also giving you because they just throw the ball so much and he'll get, you know, four catches or so. So that's. It is tough for running backs in deep leagues. All right. Last night's game did not go the way I thought it would. I forgot about special teams. Big part of football. New England 33, Giants 15.

[Jamie Osberg]

Just one more tight end for the shadow leagues. Gunner Helm is six catches each of his last two games.

[Adam]

Okay, there you go. And one more. I was just gonna say Michael Tinsley is a guy.

[Dave Richard]

Mitchell.

[Adam]

Mitchell Tinsley. Michael, you're telling me that there's not a Michael Tinsley in the world?

[Dave Richard]

Dave, I don't think he's going to get you any fantasy points.

[Adam]

Mitchell Tinsley at nine targets last week for the Bengals.

[Jamie Osberg]

So. Yeah, and he scored the week before. Look, between him and Yoshibas, you might get one good receiver.

[Adam]

There you go. All right. New England 33, Giants 15. I'm going to. We're going to do two minutes on this game here and I think it should all be on. No, I'm short. Changing the game. All right. So, Dave, Giants question for you. I felt that Jackson Dart looked a little bit neutered last night. Didn't love it. Should we. And you had brought that up. Is it going to be the same guy? I don't think they did any design runs that I recall. Drop them or hold him through the buy.

[Dave Richard]

He's droppable, as crazy as that sounds. Just because you can find another quarterback potentially, I think it's probably more so in the shallow leagues where it's easier to let go of Jackson Dart and then either bring him back or have another quarterback. He's got the commanders after the buy, then the Vikings, then the Raiders. That's a pretty darn good schedule. So if you drop them, you better be. You better be set at quarterback either with two other guys that you're okay rotating for the fantasy playoffs or one stud.

[Jamie Osberg]

Okay.

[Adam]

And for the Patriots, Jamie, very disappointing usage for Diggs, but also for Travion Henderson, you know, because he had 11 carries, Ramandre had 12. They've had basically the same amount of touches. They both had three catches. Oh, what do you make of the Patriots running backs right now?

[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah, the, the. The Runway is not clear anymore, unfortunately. You know, we thought that we were getting this league winning type of guy because of the schedule and the way the usage was trending. You know, you had the two games without Stevenson, he comes back and he's not as involved as he was. And then, man, when I saw him line up as a starter, I was like, oh, God, please just make this like a token situation. And then he was the primary guy on the first drive and it just felt like we were set up for disaster in this great matchup. You got lucky, I think, with the big run from Henderson at the end and, you know, still a little bit of the involvement in the passing game. But like, this was. This was extremely frustrating. So I think if you're viewing Henderson as a guy that's going to save your league, you're probably going to get disappointed. Can he still be a low end? Number two running back reflects. I think that's fair. And if you've been holding on to Stevenson, he probably goes in that same range. So it's almost like a poor man's Carolina, you know, as we're looking at, you know, a backfield going into a buy and what they may look like coming off of it. So I'm disappointed. I was hoping that Henderson was going to come out dominate the snaps, you know, whatever the outcome was, at least you would see the playing time. And that's the worst case scenario is that he didn't have a great game. Even in the limited touches that he was given.

[Dave Richard]

He was even given the majority of snaps inside the 10. Henderson had didn't work out his way. I don't even remade played more.

[Adam]

I don't even feel like Henderson. I don't even feel like that stat inside the 10 is one that's going to translate week to week. I think it's just going to be a toss up, you know and down.

[Jamie Osberg]

In distance was matter too. You know, passing downs. He was in there.

[Adam]

Ramondre is going to be the third down there.

[Dave Richard]

He was their third down back inside.

[Jamie Osberg]

I mean at least the couple that I saw, you know, not looking at the numbers but he was, he was in there on some third and goal.

[Adam]

And I thought, you know to myself like is. Is dig is droppable? I don't think so. And he gets the buy and then you gotta hope that he comes back plays Buffalo. He was amazing against Buffalo last time. He had 146 yards. And Buffalo and Baltimore, the next two games for the Patriots, they're, you know, they play some good teams and maybe they have to keep Diggs on the field a lot, throw the ball more. So I know I only have him in one league but I'll probably throw him back in my lineup in a couple weeks and just hope. Hope for that magic to come back. Drop o meter real quick here. Dallas Goddard, 0 to 10. He's been ice cold.

[Dave Richard]

Does he play the Giants?

[Adam]

No.

[Dave Richard]

Then he's a 10.

[Adam]

Caleb Williams, two games against Green Bay, Cleveland. Those are his next three games.

[Jamie Osberg]

Caleb Williams, I mean again, look at the quarterbacks. We're telling you to go add so right. He's, he's. You know, like what Dave said about dart. I think in shallow leagues you should not drop him. In 12 team leagues or larger, you know, maybe you can get away with it. Our 12 teams are shallow. Excuse me. You can get away with it. It's just. You're not starting him anytime soon, right?

[Dave Richard]

Not with confidence.

[Jamie Osberg]

Sam Darnold, 88 rostered same rinse, wash, repeat. But we just said.

[Dave Richard]

But I'd rather, I'd rather hold on to dart and Caleb than Darnold.

[Jamie Osberg]

More upside there. Yeah, he just. They're not going to throw the ball very much.

[Adam]

I just, I don't want to be too focused on the weather but Caleb is at Green Bay, and then two home games against Cleveland and Green Bay. Darnold is at Atlanta, it's indoors. Then home against Indianapolis and the Rams. So I don't know. I mean, I feel like Darnold's. I don't know. Again, I don't know about the weather, but I just been saying it for weeks. Seems like the Bears are really set up to be very run heavy down the stretch.

[Jamie Osberg]

I mean, you could certainly see a setup where Darnold plays great against the Falcons and then the Jaguars. Let's just say Trevor Lawrence has a huge game against the Colts because of no Gardner there and whatever. And then we fall for it again. And then Darnold comes out and throws the ball 15 times and, you know, doesn't have a huge stat line. It's just. He's going to be that type of guy. You're never going to have any faith starting.

[Adam]

He scored less than seven points in three of his last four games, Mike.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah. And, you know, he's starting to show the flaws again, which is unfortunate. Yeah.

[Adam]

Orande Gadsden. Drop o meter, 87% rostered.

[Dave Richard]

Not ready to say that he's a droppable player yet.

[Jamie Osberg]

I would drop him for Strange and any of the guys that we mentioned in the shallow leagues. So Juwan Johnson, if he's available. Ertz. At this point, I would drop him for Arts. With that schedule.

[Adam]

Yeah. Don't forget the Chargers. They finished your fantasy season with the Eagles at the Chiefs, at Dallas and Houston.

[Jamie Osberg]

It's not easy. Yeah.

[Adam]

Romeo Dobbs.

[Dave Richard]

He's droppable.

[Jamie Osberg]

I'd wait a week just to see if Jaden Reed doesn't return.

[Adam]

So if Jane Reed doesn't return, would you be starting Romeo Dobbs over Isaac Tesla? Greg Dortch.

[Dave Richard]

No. No.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

That's why he's droppable.

[Adam]

Kate Otten.

[Dave Richard]

Droppable.

[Jamie Osberg]

He's droppable. Especially with Evans coming back. Right.

[Dave Richard]

Like, I'd rather have Gadsden at this point.

[Adam]

Rashad White.

[Jamie Osberg]

I would hold him. I mean, he's, you know, we're talking about Michael Carter and Tyze Spears, like that's the same type of guy. Okay.

[Dave Richard]

But if your waiver wire has Chuba and a bunch of these other running backs on it, It's a shallow league. You can drop Rashad White, especially if it's half or non ppr.

[Jamie Osberg]

The. The other Bucks running back should be dropped, not named Bucky Irving. Sean Tucker.

[Dave Richard]

Sean Tucker.

[Adam]

Yeah, but here's the thing. I mean, you know, it's not worth saying you're dropping Rashad White for a waiver wire running back. You know it. You need a wide receiver this week. Rashad White's one of the guys on your bench.

[Jamie Osberg]

He's definitely at the. At the. At the tail end of it. And you know, even to say drop Tucker like, you know, we're sitting here and, you know, at least I am, you know, pick up these handcuff running backs. If Bucky goes down, it's more so that you're going to trust Tucker than you are Rashad White. Based on what they've shown us.

[Dave Richard]

Agreed.

[Adam]

Okay. How about Tez Johnson?

[Jamie Osberg]

100% Super.

[Dave Richard]

Kick him onto the waiver wire.

[Adam]

Brock Purdy.

[Jamie Osberg]

Unless you're young. Sway. Cool. You can't kick anything young.

[Adam]

He didn't attempt a field goal last night. I don't.

[Dave Richard]

My initial reaction to that was KU took the under on his field goals made.

[Adam]

Yeah, I made that joke this morning too. Wow, Dave.

[Dave Richard]

You did? On this show?

[Adam]

No, in a group text. Anywho, Brock Purdy.

[Jamie Osberg]

No, I'm paranoid now about that.

[Dave Richard]

No, I wouldn't drop Purdy.

[Adam]

Ricky Pearsall.

[Dave Richard]

What's his schedule after the buy?

[Adam]

So bye week for Purdy and Pearsall, then Tennessee at Indianapolis, Chicago at home.

[Dave Richard]

Yes, I would try and hang on to Purdy.

[Adam]

Pierce saw. I cannot. You have to drop him. I mean.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yes.

[Adam]

DJ Moore can't start him.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yes.

[Dave Richard]

Droppable in shallow leagues.

[Adam]

Jordan Addison. 190 roster. Jordan Addison, droppable.

[Jamie Osberg]

I mean, this guy's so good.

[Adam]

I know.

[Dave Richard]

It is so good. The quarterback is so bad. He doesn't have a good game with McCarthy yet.

[Jamie Osberg]

He's not the most droppable player we've said, but he's close.

[Adam]

Are you starting Addison or. Or Deutsch or Tesla this week?

[Jamie Osberg]

Addison in a week with four teams on a buy and all these injured wide receivers is barely inside the top 48 for me.

[Dave Richard]

Me. Right.

[Adam]

All right, let's go back through the waiver wire, see if we missed anything. The quarterbacks in shallow leagues headlined by Brisbane.

[Jamie Osberg]

That's the type of player that if you have Devon Hn. I would much rather at this point roster Ollie Gordon than Jordan Addison.

[Adam]

Yeah, exactly right. Get those handcuffs. And there actually are. We're going to get into in a second. There are some. Some widely available handcuffs that may not be that bad that we really haven't talked about. Like Dave mentioned Keaton Mitchell.

[Jamie Osberg]

The Malik Davis is very interesting.

[Dave Richard]

Yes.

[Adam]

All right.

[Dave Richard]

You mentioned Ray Davis earlier.

[Adam]

Brissette, Lawrence Daniels. They're the shallow League guys. Mariota against at Minnesota. Do you think he gets the 20 fantasy points if he starts this week?

[Jamie Osberg]

I think he'll be close. You know, I mean, what he just did against Denver was extremely impressed. Like, he played great against the Broncos. You know, the, the, the play. I know they highlighted this on the broadcast. The play that he did to get the pass interference call on Hanga was incredible. He had two guys draped on him. I know. You know, the interference call was not anything he did, but just to get the throw off was amazing, you know, so he, he really played great. Like he deserved to, you know, give them a chance to win. And, you know, unfortunately, he didn't make the right throw against Bonito. But still, with McLaren back, he. I thought he threw the ball well at times. You know, ers look great. So I think McLaren, he's not a top 12 guy for me, but he's certainly the best of the bunch of these guys that we're talking about.

[Dave Richard]

You mean Mariota?

[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

You said McLaren. Okay. Yeah, I agree. I'm worried about what that game script will be because the Vikings don't exactly put up a ton of points, so the commanders might not have to put up a ton of points. So he's. He's okay.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

If you're desperate. If you're desperate and you need a quarterback in Week 14, he's the best there is.

[Adam]

The Vikings have allowed one touchdown pass in their last four games. Pretty crazy. But also, I'm pretty. I think Jaden Daniels, man, like Jaden Daniels has Dallas in week 17. I wouldn't mind stashing him if he's available.

[Jamie Osberg]

Oh, sure. Absolutely. He should be stacked. And I think in the case of, of Mario, he's run for over 40 yards each of the last two starts. So you're going to get that. I don't think this is a 25 point game for him, but I think 18 to 20, he's in that range.

[Dave Richard]

He could be in that range. Sure. Daniels would be obviously the only quarterback worth spending more than 5% of your remaining fab on or original.

[Adam]

Not Brissette.

[Dave Richard]

Not percent. Unless you're really. If it's a deeper league and he's somehow out there, then sure.

[Adam]

But basically rostered in the same amount of leagues as Daniels.

[Dave Richard]

I. I get it. You probably need to spend 5% to get percent too.

[Jamie Osberg]

I'll take it. Sets had a better year than Daniels. When you look at.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jamie Osberg]

I, I totally would.

[Adam]

He's had a better year than almost everyone.

[Jamie Osberg]

If you're Trying to get to the end of the season. Brissette gets the Bengals in the championship. Yeah, it's true.

[Adam]

All right guys, so Jamie's top three are Mariota, Tyrod Taylor against Miami, Tyler Shuck who's had two good games in his last three and has a good matchup and Trey Lance. Gosh, I hope he doesn't start because I don't think that's gonna be good for the passing game.

[Jamie Osberg]

I think is only only deep super flex or two QB league like you cannot consider you have to have Herbert.

[Adam]

Yeah to a tongue of I low. I just don't think we can really rely on any more. The Dolphins are so run heavy and they should be able to run the ball against the jets running back. So this we've talked a lot about here. You've got Jordan Mason, got Devin Neal, who's I would think you'd have to say at least as a good floor because he, you know he'll catch some passes and get the touches. Chuba Hubbard, you know.

[Jamie Osberg]

But we also don't know if Camara's ruled out yet.

[Dave Richard]

True.

[Adam]

Tyler Algier is always a handcuff to get. Basil Tutin could be a touchdown score. Zonovin Knight. Donovan Knight has four catches in three straight. Three or four catches in three straight games. He has a good role there. He faces the Rams. They are tough. But Donovan Knight. All right, we got Chris Rodriguez. We talked about Devin Singletary is maybe a good long term play. Of course we don't know the prognosis for Tyrone Tracy Jr. But hip injury didn't look good. Got carded off. And then there's Blake Car, Blake Corum, Michael Carter who Dave mentioned earlier. Taj Spears. Carter and Spears are pretty similar. Jaleel McLaughlin as a handcuff. Samaj P. Ryan as a handcuff who also gets work. Brian Robinson, 14 carries. Yeah, I know Wild. And he got Buffalo this week. Oh, great matchup. Brian Robinson Jr. Ray Davis, Ali Gordon, Keaton Mitchell, Malik Davis. Widely available handcuffs. So hold on.

[Dave Richard]

Knight, Hubbard, Singletary, Rodriguez, Mason, not necessarily that order. They're all in that 5% of FAB group.

[Adam]

I mean you could argue that they're 15 to 20% of fab depending on it.

[Dave Richard]

Depends how desperate you are for a running back.

[Jamie Osberg]

Sure.

[Adam]

Yeah. All right, wide receivers, the shallow league guys are Alec Pierce, Christian Watson, Garrett Wilson, Chris Godwin. But you know, Godwin situation looks a lot less appealing now that Mike Evans could be back as early as this week against the team that he always struggles against. But we'll see with. They don't, obviously don't have Lattimore anymore, but that's new.

[Dave Richard]

Is it, is it that he has a chance to play this week or a chance to practice this week?

[Jamie Osberg]

So there, there was two different things that I read and then Todd Bowles clarified it yesterday. But going into Sunday, Ian Rapaport wrote on the NFL website in his notes column that Evans could return as early as this week. And I think he was. The way that I took it was return to practice. I there. Then there was a Sports Illustrated story that said Evans could play this week and cited Rapaport's story. So maybe I'm interpreting it wrong, but after what Bull said, hoping that he could return to practice this week, my guess would be is, you know, because of its collarbone, that if he's looks good in practice, they'll play him. He's not coming back from a knee or a hamstring or anything like that. You know, he's coming back from something that, you know, as long as he's not struggling with anything. He started running last week, you know, at least visibly to the, there was a report that he was running a practice. So I, I think there's a chance that he could play this week, but I would think most likely we're looking at week 15.

[Adam]

All right, so in the case that Evans does not play this week, Jamie, Chris Godwin versus Dorch, Tesla Higgins, how would you rank Godwin?

[Jamie Osberg]

You know, I might be wrong with Tesla, but Dorch for me is easy over him and, and Tesla, I would start over him again. Just looking at what the offense and, and potential game flow, game plan could be. You know, we haven't seen Godwin get a lot of targets yet. If he scored the touchdown last week, maybe it's different. The, the play where he had the 31 yard reception, to me, that was a little bit of an accident. You know, Baker broke the, you know, was, was escaping the pocket and three guys missed tackles on Godwin, you know, down the sideline. So it was, it was nice to see and you know, certainly trending in the right direction. But there's still a lot of mouth defeating without Evans there.

[Adam]

Okay, if you want to hear more about the wide receivers, just go to the top three at each prayer at each position segment where we really broke this down. But just give me, Dave, give me your thoughts on Adonai Mitchell and Devon Vale because they're kind of similar, right? Like Vale has gotten the targets since Shahid was traded. Mitchell's gotten the target since he was Traded to the Jets. Do you think we can rely on either of these guys?

[Dave Richard]

I think if we're talking about a wide receiver, 3. Mitchell would be the one that I would lean toward. Vale is just based on. Okay, he's had a bunch of targets in the past couple of games. He looked really good last week. He looked pretty good the week before. Kind of was like dominating on slants and in breaking routes. It's just a question of is this going to continue to happen in New Orleans. I agree, or I believe rather that the Saints are going to be passing a lot. I don't think there's going to be many games where they're playing with a lead. That's part of the problem with Devin Neal. And yeah, maybe he's in line for six targets a game, six plus targets per game. But I don't want to start him. It's kind of like I want to stash Devon Vale just to see what happens. I'm not ready to believe in him yet. So to that end, Tesla I do have ranked ahead of him and certainly all the other names that we've talked about ahead of Devon Bailey. But Mitchell's a little bit different. He's not as good of a route runner as, you know, you'd like to see from somebody in their second year in the NFL. And we know that there's questions about his hands because he's had a bunch of drops and a couple of dopey plays. But I, I actually thought last week, like in addition to really good speed, he had good awareness and good adjustment to off target throws from Torod Taylor. I am thinking the jets will be in a bunch of games where they have to throw. I like the matchup for Mitchell this week, so I could kind of buy into him as a number three receiver. I would not start him over Higgins. I would not start him over Dortch if MHJ is out. But I would start him over Tesla because I think that there will be more opportunities for him to. Yeah, more targets, more catches and potentially some big plays.

[Jamie Osberg]

Just keep in mind with Mitchell, it's kind of the theme of what we talked about with these receivers. Who are we talking about last week as a waiver wire ad?

[Dave Richard]

Well, it's Mechi is one of them.

[Jamie Osberg]

That's the reason. And sure, again, this, this is just one of those situations where Mechi did not have the good game. Mitchell had the good game. I know Mitchell's had the targets the last few weeks. And then if you're just looking long term, Garrett Wilson could be back in week 15.

[Dave Richard]

So that's true.

[Jamie Osberg]

If Garrett Wilson comes back, like Mitchell's irrelevant to me. Right.

[Dave Richard]

And there's a bunch of if scenarios for a ton of these wide receivers. I mean, how many have we named where there isn't an if scenario? I think Higgins might be the only one. I mean, technically Vale counts as one that doesn't have an if scenario. There isn't somebody coming to take his.

[Jamie Osberg]

His job away is that he's just not that good.

[Dave Richard]

Right. But boy, did he look good. He was. He was my favorite film that I saw from these, you know, Johnny Come lately. Wide receivers, I guess waiver wire receivers. This week, his film was my favorite of them all. Evans, obviously. Pierce, Watson, Higgins, Dorchester. To me, they're all 5% plus fab guys.

[Adam]

The other, you know, the other guy who's got a situation where players out and maybe is Andre Yoshovas and. And Mitchell Tinsley. Such a stickler for first names on this show. So Higgins may not play this week. All right, how about tight ends? You got Dalton Kincaid. You got Juwan Johnson. You've got Pits and Earths. We like Ertz better than Pitts. We were. Jamie was kind of talking that out earlier. Darren Waller also available. And he didn't play. He only played.

[Jamie Osberg]

I don't know.

[Adam]

He played less than 50% of the snaps, I think. So hopefully they ramp him up. That's kind of what they did the first time he was activated. So if he can start playing more snaps, that'd be great. And. But Brenton Strange versus Dalton Schultz. You guys both have Strange ahead.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yep.

[Adam]

Because of matchup for this week.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam]

And actually, Schultz has some pretty tough matchups rest of season. Except for Arizona next week with Schultz at Kansas City, Arizona, Las Vegas and the Chargers. Three of those teams are currently top seven against tight ends, whereas Strange has the Colts twice in the next four games. So that could be good. Harold Fannin Jr. Though, I don't know if we've really mentioned him. This Guy has a 26.8% target share in his last two games. He runs basically all the routes and no one else comes close. Najoku is being phased out. So Tennessee's not bad against tight ends either, but that's his matchup this week. But, man, Fannon Jr. Is another good option there.

[Jamie Osberg]

Scored a touchdown in bad weather against, you know, not the best 49ers defense, but clearly, it's my opinion, better than Titans.

[Dave Richard]

When is the last big game? I'm looking it up as I'm Typing it like Fannin had 11.3 PPR points. It's his best game in his last four. I feel like that's kind of his ceiling as long as Shadur is the.

[Jamie Osberg]

Quarterback, but he's still been 8.4 PPR points or more than four of his last five. So the floor has been right around the range. Like, for me, I always look at eight or nine points. Like, if I get that, I'm.

[Dave Richard]

You're okay with that in full ppr? Yeah, that's fine. I guess I look for double digits.

[Adam]

If he's gonna keep it 20.

[Jamie Osberg]

I hope everybody does. I just think, you know. Yeah. If you're talking about a guy that says as involved as he is and as talented as he is, like you, you can get that as the base of what you're, you know, hoping is the start of something potentially good.

[Adam]

Yeah, listen, Sanders has thrown 45 passes in two games, so he's got a 20 fan and is a 27 target share. You get a 35 passing game. I don't think it's gonna happen against Tennessee, but you get 35 pass attempts at some point, and then we could be talking about a real ceiling. Gunner Helm was mentioned. Isaiah likely coming off a good game, but that was. The Bengals.

[Jamie Osberg]

Schedule is great.

[Adam]

I know, but he does have the Bengals in two weeks. And then Colby Parkinson gets.

[Jamie Osberg]

The Steelers are a great matchup.

[Adam]

The Steelers were a great matchup in their last five games. Only one tight end scored more than 8.6 fantasy points, and that includes Tyler Warren. It sort of includes around a Gadston. He left with an injury. All right, and then any interest in TJ Hawkinson or Darnell Washington? I want Darnell Washington to be a thing so bad.

[Jamie Osberg]

I want Washington to be a thing, too. I mean, my gosh, they need anybody to help that offense. But no, you can't trust him. Hawkinson. I mean, he played Seattle. It was Brosmer, you know, so it's hard to say, like, it's anything sustainable. The matchup against Washington is good, but not great. So I would overlook, like, when we talked about this yesterday, I said, oh, maybe Evan INGRAM and maybe T.J. hAWKINSON Just coming off the games that they just had. But, you know, they. They just had good matchups and kind of spike games out of nowhere.

[Dave Richard]

I am pretty sure Hawkinson has yet to have a game over 10 PPR points with McCarthy.

[Jamie Osberg]

And that's including a touchdown.

[Dave Richard]

Yes.

[Adam]

I mean, if Justin Jefferson can barely get there.

[Jamie Osberg]

Yeah.

[Adam]

All right, thanks, folks. That's it for. Oh yeah, that's it. DSTs, Bucks Commanders, Dolphins, Chiefs. Bucks, Commanders, Dolphins, Chiefs. That's Jamie's order. Kickers, Evan McPherson. I might want to throw two bucks fab on him. Harrison, Mavis. Mavis and Butker Riley. Oh, I didn't even realize that Both of their first names are Harrison, Beavis and Butker. Oh, my goodness.

[Dave Richard]

Sure it's not Michael Riley?

[Adam]

Penn Patterson and Kai Fairbear. Long waiver wire show. Sorry. I hope it was helpful. We will talk to you tomorrow. I'm. We'll play a game tomorrow. We'll do something fun tomorrow. We'll be right back. We'll be back tomorrow. On fancy football Today.

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