Week 11 Recap! Big Injuries, Surprising Studs, Worryometer and More (11/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Fantasy Football Today – Week 11 Recap

Episode: "Week 11 Recap! Big Injuries, Surprising Studs, Worryometer and More"
Date: November 17, 2025
Hosts: Adam Aizer, Dave Richard, Jamey Eisenberg, Heath Cummings
Theme: Detailed recap of NFL Week 11, with a focus on major injuries, surprising breakout players, the “Worryometer” segment for top names, waiver wire priorities, and key observations to help fantasy football managers make informed decisions heading into Week 12.

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Episode Overview

The FFT crew recaps an injury-marred and unpredictable Week 11, highlighting unusual stat lines, an influx of waiver wire targets, and fantasy-relevant trends. They dissect player performances, flag early waiver targets, and work through major questions using the “Worryometer” to gauge panic levels surrounding some of the league's biggest stars. The hosts also answer burning fantasy queries and offer actionable guidance ahead of the crucial playoff stretch.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Weirdest Week Yet: Stat Leaders & Positional Outliers

• Quarterbacks Underwhelm: Only two QBs scored more than 26 fantasy points, and odd names topped the leaderboards, highlighting a week of poor quarterback play and trickle-down struggles for receivers.

• Surprise Standouts: Players like Jacoby Brissett, Michael Wilson, Sean Tucker, and Teteroa McMillan shocked with top performances.

  “It's wild. They keep falling behind big early, too. This whole offense is riding on the arm of Jacoby Brissett. It's crazy.”
  — Adam Aizer (03:37)

2. Major Injuries: Fantasy Fallout

• Notable Injuries: Drake London, Josh Jacobs, Jalen Warren, Michael Penix, Amari Demercado, Calvin Ridley (season-ending), among others, left or missed time.

• Waiver Wire Priorities: Emmanuel Wilson (Raiders), Kenneth Gainwell (Steelers), Michael Wilson (Cardinals), and Donovan Knight (Cardinals) named as urgent pickups depending on injury updates.

  “Emmanuel Wilson obviously is going to be the headliner... There'll be a lot of quarterbacks as usual. So be interesting, Gainwell.”
  — Jamey Eisenberg (24:24)

3. Biggest Winners & Losers of the Week

Winners

• Teteroa McMillan: Exploded with 8 catches, 130 yards, and 2 TDs (25:21).
• Sean Tucker: 19 carries, 106 yards, 2 TDs; added receiving score (26:59).
• Michael Wilson: 15 catches, 185 yards on 18 targets reflects volume upside (29:03).
• Chris Rodriguez & Deebo Samuel: Commanders’ rook showed usage; Deebo productive with added opportunity.

Losers

• Sam Darnold: “What a disgusting performance... four interceptions. I think we can stop with this whole, like, if...he throws a lot, why would they ever have a game where he throws a lot?” — Heath Cummings (05:53)
• Romo Odunze: Disappointing output with more bust weeks than booms lately; trust is eroding (32:30).

4. The Worryometer – Should You Panic?

A famous FFT segment. Each host assigns a “worry” level (0-10) for slumping or injured stars:

• Lamar Jackson: Medium panic due to brutal upcoming schedule (Jets, Bengals, Steelers).

• Quinshon Judkins: 6-7, mostly due to O-line/play around him crumbling (08:49).

• Lad McConkey: Little genuine worry; entire Chargers offense had a poor week, but talent and role remain (10:26).

• Patrick Mahomes: Level-headed (1-3), focus on poor OL/run help but still a weekly start (13:22).

• Justin Jefferson: Moderate concern (5/10); team volume and QB play limiting previous first-round upside (17:44).

  “It's just worried enough to realize that you're not going to get first round value out of him... there's no way you're going to bench him unless you're just absolutely loaded at wide receiver.”
  — Dave Richard (17:44)

5. Observations & Strategic Notes by Position

Running Back

• RB Committee Woes: Kyren Williams, DeAndre Swift, and others questioned as timeshares and backfield volatility rise.
• Sean Tucker & Bucky Irving: Tucker’s explosion makes him this week’s “new Rico Dowdle,” but committee concerns remain.
• Waiver Notes: Tyron Tracy Jr., Chris Rodriguez are streamers, but environment-dependent.

Wide Receiver

• Michael Wilson/Teteroa McMillan: Injury beneficiaries, strong PPR appeal in short term.
• Nico Collins: Continuing to outperform expectations with solid volume regardless of QB.
• Panthers WRs: Fluctuating usage as Bryce Young’s weekly variance persists.

Tight End

• Cole Kmet vs. Colston Loveland: “As long as Cole Kmet stays healthy, Colston Loveland's not a thing.” — Heath Cummings (46:33)
• Harold Fannin Jr.: May be droppable for higher-upside streamers like Juwan Johnson.

Quarterback

• Waiver Wire Streamers: Brissett, Purdy, and others remain key for playoff-bound teams facing schedule crunches.
• Injury Fallout: Michael Penix, etc., force questions for superflex/2QB managers.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Biggest Winner:
  "You should take your victory lap. It was probably your best Sunday morning of the season... Michael Wilson—he might have been wide receiver one."
  — Heath Cummings to Adam Aizer (04:08)
• Biggest Loser:
  "What a disgusting performance from [Sam Darnold]. Four interceptions... I think we can stop with this whole, like, if it's a game where he throws a lot, why would they ever have a game where he throws a lot?"
  — Heath Cummings (05:53)
• On Jefferson’s Struggles:
  "A good week from him at this point is 14 PPR points and no one drafted him for 14 PPR points."
  — Dave Richard (19:09)
• Waiver Wire Urgency:
  "It's a much busier waiver wire week this week than it was in week 11 for sure... It's going to be a long one."
  — Adam Aizer (24:01)
• RB Uncertainty:
  "Clearly if your trade deadline has not happened yet, [Ken Walker III] should be one of the biggest sell-high candidates you can find."
  — Jamie Eisenberg (62:21)
• Kyren Williams Panic?
  "At some point, Adam, you're just gonna have to throw your arms up and say, all right, I'm starting Kyren."
  — Dave Richard (64:06)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Top Performers Recap: 02:26–03:37
• Biggest Winners/Losers: 04:08–07:44
• Worryometer Segment: 07:56–19:50
• Major Injury News: 19:50–24:24
• Waiver Wire Early Preview: 24:24–25:21
• Game-by-Game Recap (selected highlights):
  • Miami vs. Washington: 43:30
  • Chicago vs. Minnesota: 46:33
  • Carolina vs. Atlanta: 48:55
  • Rams vs. Seahawks: 60:49–66:00
  • San Francisco vs. Arizona: 69:41
  • Denver vs. Kansas City: 73:13
• RB “Goal Line”/Committee Discussion: 42:07–43:30
• Wave Wire Priorities and Winners: 24:24–31:16
• Comparing and Trading Running Backs: 64:53–68:22

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Waiver Wire, Add/Drop, and Playoff Strategy (Week 12 Look-Ahead)

• Top Pickups: Emmanuel Wilson, Kenneth Gainwell, Michael Wilson, Donovan Knight (key injury replacements)
• Streaming QBs: Jacoby Brissett, Brock Purdy, possible matchups based on schedule/injury
• Running Back Replacements: Chris Rodriguez, Sean Tucker, Tyron Tracy Jr.
• Droppable Players: Zach Ertz, Shakari Crosskamer, struggling handcuffs or WRs with no clear path

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Final Takeaways

Week 11 was a wild ride—the most unpredictable so far. Major injuries will shake up every position, triggering one of the deepest waiver wire runs of the season. Savvy fantasy managers must pivot quickly, stack up high-upside options, and avoid chasing last week’s points without considering context and role. With playoffs around the corner, the right roster tweaks now could win your league.

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For a full breakdown, including specific player recommendations and matchup previews, check back for the FFT crew’s midweek and mailbag episodes.

Transcript

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[Dave Richard]

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[Jamie Eisenberg]

Can you believe this?

[Adam Azer]

No, I can't.

[Dave Richard]

It's time to dominate your fantasy league. This is going to go the distance.

[Heath Cummings]

Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and he.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Oh man.

[Adam Azer]

Wild day in week 11. Welcome to the Sunday night recap show, everybody. This is fantasy football today presented by BetMGM. Make it legendary. Adam Azer, Heathcoming's Dave Richard here. Jamie Eisenberg will be joining us shortly. We've got the worryometer Sun Sunday worryometer.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's the.

[Adam Azer]

It's suriometer and biggest winners, biggest losers recap of every game. And how about this? Just looking at this right now, top 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 scorers, top 10 scorers at any position in full PPR. Six point per passing, touchdown. How many are quarterbacks?

[Dave Richard]

Three.

[Heath Cummings]

I thought you're gonna ask. How many more Cardinals? Four.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, it's four. I forgot about percent.

[Adam Azer]

It is. Two percent would be 11th. Josh Allen, Bryce Young, Christian McCaffrey, Sean Tucker, Teteroa McMillan, Michael Wilson, Travion Henderson, Bijan Robinson, Kenneth Gainwell, Trey McBride. But of the top 11, we do have Brissette. We have McBride and we have Michael Wilson.

[Dave Richard]

Sounded a guy who played on Thursday in there.

[Adam Azer]

I'd.

[Dave Richard]

So it's not a Sunday top 10 finisher. And I thought Purdy would be in there. He had.

[Adam Azer]

Purdy was basically tied with Brissette. He was right behind there. But that's only two quarterbacks at more than 26 fantasy points this week. Yeah, it was kind of a weird week, wasn't it?

[Dave Richard]

Definitely weird. Lots of crummy quarterback play and that obviously bled into the receivers. And a lot of those guys not having huge games either.

[Adam Azer]

A lot of injuries, Heath. A lot of injuries. I hate it. Hate it.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, and a lot of injuries. I think we're still kind of waiting to find out how serious they are too.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. So Drake London, Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs. They said he's not out for the year, but they ruled him out very quickly and he's going to have more testing tomorrow. So that's a big one. So we'll get to that. But let's start off on a positive note. Let's see. Biggest winner. Who am I going to assign this to? Biggest winner?

[Heath Cummings]

You should assign it to yourself.

[Adam Azer]

Why?

[Heath Cummings]

You should take your victory lap. It was probably your best Sunday morning of the season. You repeatedly said to a starter guy that nobody else wanted to start and he might have been wide receiver one.

[Adam Azer]

I don't think I was that high on Michael Wilson. JB called him a winner. Look, Jacoby Brissette, I. Do you know if this is true? I think he set a record for completions today.

[Heath Cummings]

NFL record.

[Adam Azer]

He had 47 completions. 47 of 57 for 452 yards. You know, if you've been listening to this show, you know how I feel about, you know, buying into players that we don't really usually buy into coming off of these types of performance.

[Heath Cummings]

I believe you once called him fantasy poison.

[Adam Azer]

I sure did. But Michael Wilson. Yeah, he's 27 rostered. He's fa. They're facing the Jaguars next week, and Brissett has been good every single week. So I think you're just gonna end up starting Brissette, and Wilson's probably, what, gonna be a wide receiver three next week.

[Dave Richard]

Three.

[Heath Cummings]

Is Harrison Beck?

[Adam Azer]

Let's say no. Let's say no.

[Dave Richard]

Then he's not going to be a wide receiver three.

[Heath Cummings]

No. I mean, he's obviously better than Marvin Harrison. Marvin Harrison doesn't out target Trey McBride like this.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Oh, please.

[Adam Azer]

All right.

[Dave Richard]

I don't think it's like that, but I don't know if you can name 24 other receivers you'd rather start than Michael Wilson, especially if they still struggle to run the ball. Do they fall behind? Does it even matter? If it's a close game, they'll still throw a lot.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

This whole offense is riding on the arm of Jacoby Brissette. It's crazy.

[Adam Azer]

It's wild. They keep falling behind big early, too. All right, who's the biggest loser? Heath, who's the biggest loser?

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, I was definitely the third person to send my names in, but I'll. I'll give one.

[Dave Richard]

Take any loser, man.

[Heath Cummings]

Go Sam Darnold.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

What a disgusting performance from him. Four interceptions. I think we can stop with this whole, like, if. If it's a game where he throws a lot, why would they ever have a game where he throws a lot?

[Adam Azer]

Again, I'll just say I this you. Thank you for, you know, trying to make me look good on the Michael Wilson thing, even though I didn't really have that much of a call on it. This was my worst call of the week by far. I really like Sam Darnold. I just. I thought he. If he threw a lot, which he did 44 times, I thought it would translate into fantasy points. It translated into about four fantasy points because he threw four interceptions, so that was rough.

[Dave Richard]

And Seattle almost won.

[Adam Azer]

Yes, they did. They lined up for a long game winning field goal and they missed Sam Donald felt like.

[Heath Cummings]

Felt like the Rams had the ball for about seven minutes in this game.

[Adam Azer]

They have seems like 23 or 24 minutes of possession for them. Darnold's 84 roster, he gets Tennessee at Tennessee, Minnesota at Atlanta. Drop them. Hold. What do you think?

[Heath Cummings]

Single digit pass against, against the Titans. Nine, maybe?

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, just drop them.

[Heath Cummings]

I was always, I think like, I've been wrong in this respect as well, but I've kind of been the low guy on him. I. I wouldn't feel the need to hold on to him.

[Dave Richard]

I think it depends on your situation. If you're streaming quarterbacks, then you can always be on the lookout for a better streamer and then you just move on from Darnold whenever you get to that point. But I think to what he's saying, you want to get off the Darnold merry go round because even when there's a favorable matchup like against Tennessee, you just figure Seattle will be able to just lean on its defense, run the ball a lot and come away with a victory that way. I don't know how many games he's going to have left. Like what he had against Washington, which now seems like a year ago, but it was really just two weeks ago.

[Adam Azer]

All right. Well, it seems. No, it's just amazing that no matter what happens, throws 12 times, throws four interceptions. No matter what happens, Jackson, Smith and Jigba has a great game. It's amazing.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

All right.

[Dave Richard]

Testament to JSN.

[Adam Azer]

Let's get. Let's get worried, baby. Sunday night. Worryometer 0 to 10. 0 is. Not even a little bit worried. You are so ridiculous for asking. 10 is. I'm so worried. It's obvious that you shouldn't even been asking. All right. Wariometer on Lamar Jackson, who is negative. Sorry. 4.7 fantasy points at Cleveland last week at 18.6. All right, Heath, sorry to cut you off. Worryometer on Lamar Jackson negative.

[Heath Cummings]

Five million Jets, Bengals, Steelers, Bingles in his next four games.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, let's move on. Wariometer on Quinshon Judkins. 17 carries for 59 yards. He had no catches on two targets. So he lays an egg here against Baltimore and that's kind of been the case for a little while now where I'm going around Judkins 6 or 7. 6. Because it's just.

[Dave Richard]

It's just because it's one of those situations where he's a good player. The offensive line continues to struggle. They don't have much of a passing game. Dylan Gabriel got concussed and left after halftime and Shador Sanders took over. I'm pretty sure everybody in the world knows about that. Shador wasn't very good taking over for Dylan Gabriel. And what did the Ravens do? They stacked the box to try and Slow down, Quentin Quinton Judkins. I want to see what his numbers were, what the splits were with him without Dylan Gabriel. Like, they're going to be like. He's going to be elite with Dylan Gabriel. I don't think so, but I, I don't. I don't think he's a slam dunk. Must start fantasy running back at any. I don't think he was necessarily this week. He fell into the top 24 almost by default. This is going to be a situation where you're just going to need to run out of running backs when you put Quinn Shawn in your lineup. Okay.

[Heath Cummings]

I'll probably start him against the Raiders next week.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, even against the Raiders, I don't know if I feel really good. It's, it's, it's everything around him that's coming crashing down on his situation.

[Adam Azer]

All right, worryometer. Obviously, we're going to talk about Justin Herbert later. It was the start of the week. Jamie's not shying away from it. He'll be talking about that when he joins the. But how about lad McConkey? Worryometer on lad McConkey. His first. Actually, he's. He's been bad in two of his last three games because three games ago he scored 9.6 fantasy points. Today, 4.3 fantasy points, three catches for 13 yards. Worryometer on lad McConKey.

[Heath Cummings]

10 must sit next week.

[Adam Azer]

They're on a buy. No. 2.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Okay.

[Dave Richard]

It's not even a 2. If you're going to give a negative 5 billion to Lamar Jackson, you can give at least a negative six to lad McConkey.

[Heath Cummings]

Well, I think the difference with lad is like, he does still have the Eagles and the Chiefs and the Texans left. He's probably going to have some more bad games. I pretty much expect we're all going to rank Lamar Jackson as a top five quarterback for the next four weeks.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, most of those four weeks, probably. There was no real difference in efficiency with queen Sean Judkins. Just another strike against them. Like, you can't even pin it on the quarterback situation or anything like that. As for McConkey, this was just a bad game all the way around for the Chargers. And I, I don't. I don't see how you can look at any one of them and say, all right, you're out. I can't. I can't deal with you anymore.

[Heath Cummings]

I think you can get pretty close to that with Justin Herbert. He came into this game averaging six and a half yards per attempt without Joe Alt. Back to back, bad game. Since all went down. I don't know that like, I'm not sure we're gonna have him top 12.

[Dave Richard]

When he gets off the buy against Las Vegas.

[Adam Azer]

It's Jacksonville though. But let me, let me ask you this about this game. I didn't even think about this until I read it in the, in the recap. Right. We never talk about this anymore. This used to be a fantasy storyline and we just, it just time and time again, it never really materialized. But this was west coast trip, west coast to East coast trip, 1pm game that. I don't know. Does that matter at all? Can we give them that excuse?

[Dave Richard]

I mean, did they fly in Sunday morning, Saturday night?

[Adam Azer]

No. I mean. And again, you know, one thing I looked at Heath on, on the Joe Walt subject line was did he get the ball out of his hands really quickly? And he did again. I mean 50% of his passes were in less than two and a half seconds. So that's one of his. It's every time he doesn't have Joe Walt. It's, it's. You see that? And it's not good.

[Dave Richard]

No. It's hard to have like explosive numbers when that happens.

[Adam Azer]

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[Dave Richard]

One, two.

[Heath Cummings]

I'll go three. Because, because I think like if you're a team contending for the playoffs, you might have to think about do I have to sit him in the last week of the fantasy regular season against the Texans? Do I have to sit. Do I need another quarterback for the fantasy championship against the Broncos?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, right.

[Heath Cummings]

But I'm starting him next week against the Colts for sure.

[Dave Richard]

He's got a lot of contending teams in his future. It's not just Indy next week. After that it's Dallas Houston. That'll be interesting. Do you trust him against the Texans, even though it's at home. The Chargers after that and then the Chargers is the first round of the fantasy playoffs. I think the offensive line is becoming an issue and lack of a explosive run game. Take a little bit of pressure off of Patrick Mahomes would help, I think. I think everybody that's got him is still going to start him. This was a tough spot for him.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Going into Denver, that's a great pass rush. I was nervous about him coming into the week. Not nervous enough to pull him out of my top 12. But he was low and he ended up having a decent second half, but a terrible first half. And by the time he had a chance to do anything late in the game, he just, he just seemed a little, I don't know, like Heath, you're the expert on, on Mahomes, it seemed like it was a little jumpy.

[Heath Cummings]

I mean, I think he's been a little jumpy at times this year. I think the bigger problem is he missed two open deep shots again in the first quarter. And then Rashi Rice, they tried to use him downfield and Rice dropped both of them. So, I mean, it was. It's the Broncos. This is what they do to good quarterbacks often.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

Tough matchup. I got one more guy on the worryometer, then we'll get to the news and notes. There are a lot of them, but it's going to be a much busier waiver wire week this week than it was in week 11 for sure this upcoming week, week 12 than it was in week 11. We'll take a break and the last Worryometer name is a spicy one. We'll be right back. Fantasy football has a lot of ORs. Start or sit, draft or bust, buy or sell. But you don't have to pick because Nationwide is so much more than a great insurance company. They're one of America's largest financial services companies. To insurance and financial services. Game changer for your insurance and financial needs. Nationwide is on your side. Nationwide Investment Services Corporation Member FINRA Columbus, Ohio Football season is fun. I love every minute of it. But it's busy and I get tired sometimes and all of us are busy and all of us get tired and. And we all need energy, focus and recovery. So let me tell you about Quicksilver Scientific, a US Company that makes advanced liposomal supplements your body can use fast. And I recently got my supplements delivered. Quicksilver Scientific is a leader in cutting edge supplement science. Quicksilver has a lot of great products. I ordered the Ultra Vitamin A highly absorbable daily multivitamin in liquid form. It has vitamins for mood and energy, plus immune and bone support. It makes me feel energized and balanced every day. Quicksilver Scientific makes advanced liposomal supplements so you can actually feel the difference. Energy Focus, calm recovery. Get 10% off and free [e-mail] FFT that's tryqs.com FFT these statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. Avoiding your unfinished home projects because you're.

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[Dave Richard]

That's the perfect number because it's it's just worried enough to realize that you're not going to get first round value out of him as somebody on your fantasy team yet. There's no way you're going to bench him unless you're just absolutely loaded at wide receiver.

[Heath Cummings]

Although at Green Bay, at Seattle, for the next two probably still not going to bench him.

[Dave Richard]

But no, but what are you expecting.

[Heath Cummings]

Fantasy point wise about what you got today?

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, maybe a little more than that.

[Heath Cummings]

But hope he scored a touchdown on one of the games.

[Adam Azer]

That'd be nice. J.J. mcCarthy has thrown for fewer than 160 yards in four of his five starts and Jefferson, I'm hoping that we get kind of like a correct a market correction a La Tearola McMillan or just Bryce Young. Because you can be a bad quarterback but not be this bad. Bryce Young threw for about 560 yards in his last four games combined and then today he threw for a franchise record, I think 448 yards and McMillan obviously benefited from it. So yes, you do have those two bad matchups for Jefferson at Green Bay and at Seattle. But then you've got Washington at Dallas and at the Giants. So just hopefully, you know, just him being Justin Jefferson like Look, we're seeing from Nico Collins all these reasons to be legitimately concerned. But you know, great players are eventually going to get their, their points. Just a hope.

[Dave Richard]

It's a hope. I wish JJ McCarthy completed more of his passes today. It felt like he had a bunch of drops. I think the numbers three and Jefferson had one of them against Chicago. Oh, so he's not throwing a ton. He's completing somewhere between 50 and 58 of his passes. That's really not that good. And he's not getting all the help that he needs from the other wide receivers. And I just feel like if they're going to continue to be a low volume passing offense, it's going to impact what you get out of Justin Jefferson. I think a good week from him at this point is 14 PPR points and no one drafted him for 14 PPR points.

[Adam Azer]

All right, that's the worryometer news and notes. A lot of quarterback injuries. Michael Penix left in the second half. They're at New Orleans next week. Kirk Cousins could be the quarterback there. Didn't go so well for Kirk Cousins a few weeks ago against Miami.

[Dave Richard]

Aaron, I believe there's already a report saying that Penix is going to miss time.

[Adam Azer]

Oh, okay. Aaron Rodgers has a slight fracture in his left hand. I feel like I could play with.

[Dave Richard]

A slight fracture and or wrist. You couldn't play with two healthy wrists.

[Adam Azer]

Well, they're going to do more testing to determine a timetable for him. Aaron Rodgers with the hand or wrist injury. Justin Herbert left, then he came back, then he was taken out of the game. It doesn't seem like it's an injury. It seems like it was just the score and they have a buy coming up. Bryce Young, he, he played, he, like I said, he had that huge game but he's got an ankle injury and you know, we'll see if he was just running on adrenaline cause he was in pain for sure. But Bryce Young ankle. Dylan Gabriel, did he end up. Yeah, he has, he has a concussion, right? He's in the concussion.

[Dave Richard]

He's in the concussion protocol. If he clears the protocol, he will start next week per coach Kevin Stefanski.

[Adam Azer]

Oh, how about that. And Jordan Love has a sore left shoulder that caused, caused him to miss a little bit of time this game. In fact. Malik Willis came in and threw a touc touchdown. Jordan Love says he should be able to play through the injury. Running back news. Jalen Warren left, then he came back, but then he left again. So tough day for Pittsburgh. They lose their starting quarterback and Starling starting Running back. I don't have to tell you all. Kenneth Gainwell is a huge priority. If Jalen Warren's going to miss any time gain what was great today. And he had a massive game without Warren back in Week 4. Josh Jacobs knee injury. We'll get an update tomorrow. And Manuel Wilson would obviously be a big priority. Amari D. Mercado left in the first half. We didn't see a ton of Donovan Knight because of the score, but he did. I think he had four catches. And Michael Carter had an increased role. And Basil too, you know, Basil Tudin, I believe, had 15 carries to ETN's 14 carries when. When Basil Tudin got hurt. But he left in the second half and ETN had the rest of the work. Drake London, knee injury. Darnell Mooney, ribs. But Mooney was able to come back in. But Drake London. So Penix in London both get hurt, man. Calvin Ridley is out for the season. Jamar Chase, he may have spit on. I haven't seen the video. Have you guys seen the video? Is anyone.

[Dave Richard]

Yes.

[Adam Azer]

What do you think? Is he going to get suspended?

[Dave Richard]

It appears that he did spit in the direction of Jalen Ramsey.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, so he could get suspended for doing so. That's Jamar Chase. Let's hope he doesn't. Chimura DK bruised his chest and then. I don't think this is gonna be anything serious. But Matthew golden and Romeo Dobbs, they. Dobbs especially, just kept getting dinged up in the game. Both came back. Tyler Higby left with an ankle injury. Cleveland offensive tackle Cam Robinson left in the first half. And just a few defensive injuries to mention. Atlanta, you know, they were so injured going into this game, I. I guess I wasn't even quite aware of how injured they were. But they played without two cornerbacks, they play without two defensive linemen. And they got lit up by the worst passing offense in football, arguably going into this game.

[Heath Cummings]

Panthers own them and.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, they really do.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

And I think they might have. I think the Panthers might have played well even without those guys.

[Adam Azer]

I thought the Giants, we weren't talking.

[Dave Richard]

About game breakers that were missing two corners. It wasn't like they were playing without their rookies or AJ Terrell at corner. That's true, but I think I. Carolina just had it today. They have Bryce Young especially, and the.

[Adam Azer]

Game went to overtime. It's not like they whooped him or anything. And the Giants were pretty beat up, too. Paulson Adibo was supposed to play, but he got ruled out before the game. And they lost the cornerback early in the game. Oh, there's one other. Quay Walker left with a stinger. This could just be a coincidence, but when Quay Walker was on the field, he's Green Bay's linebacker. Tyrone Tracy had 11 carries for 37 yards. When Quay Walker was not on the field, Tyrone Tracy had eight carries for 51 yards. Big difference there. Packers get Minnesota next week. All right, just a couple things to promote. One is Jamie Eisenberg. He is here. Hello, Jamie.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Hey.

[Adam Azer]

All right, check out Jamie at Jamie Eisenberg. And we just have a ton of podcasts. We are the the kings of podcasting at CBS Sports. So go to CBSSports.com podcasts, see everything we've got. If you like sports, if you like a particular sport, we probably have a podcast on it. All right. Oh, Jamie, any thoughts on the early waiver wire? It's gonna be. You better start writing that column now. It's gonna be a long one.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Emmanuel Wilson obviously is going to be the headliner. You know, we'll see what happens there with Josh Jacobs, Donovan Knight again, depending on Trey Benson situation, we'll see what's going on with the Falcons receiving core. Obviously a mess there right now with Drake London. There'll be a lot of quarterbacks as usual. So be interesting, Gainwell.

[Dave Richard]

If Gainwell's there and, and Emmanuel Wilson's there, who you like better?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, we don't know the extent of either injury yet, so probably right.

[Adam Azer]

Now Eileen Wilson and then we got Michael Wilson too. So yeah, it's gonna be, it's gonna be a good one. No doubt. All right, winners and losers. Dave Tetteroa McMillan started in 60 of leagues. Eight catches, 130 yards, two touchdowns on 12 targets. And Sean Tucker, oh, he's another guy. He's 48% rostered and he was only started in 22% of leagues. 19 carries, 106 yards, two touchdowns plus two catches for 34 yards and a touchdown at Buffalo. Tell me about McMillan.

[Dave Richard]

First, McMillan was part of a game script that I just absolutely did not see coming. I thought it would be a low scoring back and forth game between the Panthers and the Falcons. I also thought that the Falcons pass rush would really impact and, and really slow down Bryce Young as a thrower. He ended up having one of those high volume passing days. It's been rare for him. And Ted Arroyo. McMillan just stepped up in a big way. Had his best game of his career. I, I hated telling people to sit. Ted Aurora McMillan. It's been bothering me all day. He's absolutely going to get reevaluated for fantasy. And I don't blame people if they're just going to blindly start him and trust him moving forward. But there will be some games coming up where Bryce Young does not throw a ton. And Ted or McMillan. McMillan. That's how many fantasy points he has. Million fantasy points. He won't have as many targets and he won't be as good as far as the statistics go as a player goes, we already knew that he was good. And today was just another day where he cements that just by dominating a Falcons defense.

[Heath Cummings]

He is up to wide receiver 19 on a PER game basis.

[Adam Azer]

No way.

[Dave Richard]

No, I believe it because he's had like three massive games and those things will pump up the average. And it's not like his average was terrible.

[Adam Azer]

I don't believe this. Are you talking about today, like just week 11?

[Heath Cummings]

He was wide receiver two this week.

[Adam Azer]

Oh, man.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

That's crazy. All right. Sean Tucker with an even better game than Ted roll McMillan. So say Bucky Irving. Bucky Irving comes back. Did Bucky Irving become a loser this week?

[Dave Richard]

I, I think so. Just because even when he does come back, you've got to figure. Shoulder injury, foot injury eased in a little bit. They're easing them into practice. So I, I can't help but think that they can still take their time, especially since, at least in terms of running the ball, Sean Tucker has overtaken Rashad White. It was close the previous two games. Now it's not going to be. It was a great matchup. We talked about it all leading up, but I don't know how many of us really bought into. Sean Tucker is like a must start type of fantasy player. We talked him up as a flex. We got some static back on that. He's got the Rams next week. I know the Rams are tough. I just saw Kenneth Walker have a good game against the Rams. So I'm okay with. Sean Tucker is like a, at, at minimum a low end, number two fantasy running back. And we can reevaluate if Bucky comes back because it could become a gross, you know, three man split at running back. But we talked about him as a stash. It was. He was a good stash two weeks ago and people felt pretty good about having him on fantasy rosters last week. Now you've got to love it and especially if you use him as a bye week replacement this week or you were stuck at flex this week. He came through in a major way. He showed off his speed. Yeah, he can catch the ball a little Bit too. Like it wouldn't surprise me if next year it's a two headed monster in Tampa with Bucky and Tucker.

[Adam Azer]

Someone asking Sean Tucker, the new Rico Dowdle?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I mean, I hesitate to say yes to that.

[Adam Azer]

No, no. I mean, look, he, he had this last year too.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

He had one huge game and then he disappeared.

[Dave Richard]

We will always remember the two Sean Tucker monster games. Maybe we'll be lucky and there will be a third.

[Adam Azer]

All right, Jamie, let's get to your winners. Tyrone Tracy Jr. He was only started in 28 of leagues. He had 19 carries for 88 yards and four catches for 51 yards against the Packers. And then there's Michael Wilson. Only rostered in 27% of leagues. Started in 15% of leagues with 15 catches, 185 yards on 18 targets against the Niners. Tracy and Wilson.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I guess just in the case of Tracy, you know, we, I, I wouldn't necessarily buy into it. It was great to see, you know, so anybody that did start him, you know, you clearly got rewarded. It was also Devin Singletary scoring a touchdown early in the game. I think when there's, when we're kind of stuck, you know, maybe he's somebody you pivot to. But you know, looking at next week against Detroit, I'm not gonna even really consider starting Tracy, but gotta give him credit for the performance that he put on today. So we're just still stuck, I think with a messy backfill. In the case of Michael Wilson, obviously the, the length of absence for Marvin Harrison gives you now a starting wide receiver, you know, because Harrison 22 targets in the last two games and now you see this 18 targets. So I think you could probably anticipate something close to 10 targets if there is no Marvin Harrison for Wilson. And you know, looking at a matchup against Jacksonville, we know that secondary has been a mess. So it does lend itself to Michael Wilson being a, you know, number two receiver, at least for me, going into, going into week 12. Okay, must, must add player.

[Adam Azer]

And Heath, you've got another guy who might be a mustad player and he's going to be going into his buy. But it's Chris Rodriguez who's 18 rostered and Debo Samuel. You got a couple of commanders, Rodriguez and Debo.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, it was good to see Debo have a good high targeted game with Marcus Mariota and get into the end zone and score 20 fantasy points. Rodriguez didn't quite dominate running back touches, but it was a close game so they ran it 33 times. He got 15 rush attempts. They even threw it to him once and he caught it. So I think yeah, he's one of those guys that if you miss the guys we're really excited about on the waiver wire this week, you add him. You may not want to start him against the Broncos either, and they may go a different direction at running back after the buy. But Jacori cross camera, it's not running near as well as he is. Jeremy McNichols is not really an early down guy, so I do think that we may have a couple startable weeks from Rodriguez rest of season.

[Adam Azer]

I wonder what this offense will look like if they get McLaurin back. It was another week for Debo where He had only one target of 10 or more air yards in his first five games. He had 15 targets of 10 or more air yards in his last five games. He has five. But it did work out for them today. Scored on that nice wide receiver screen.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Good news on Josh Jacobs. What have you got at least initially? Tom Pelissero says he's going to undergo more tests on Monday, but the initial belief is he avoided a significant injury. Jacobs returned briefly after jamming his knee into the MetLife turf before leaving for good. There's optimism he'll be back soon, so we don't know how long it's out, but it doesn't sound like season any.

[Heath Cummings]

How many players have left games earlier on that turf that allegedly is all fixed.

[Adam Azer]

I knew you were gonna say that. He banged his knee into the turf. He didn't twist it in the turf or something like that.

[Heath Cummings]

I don't put a little padding in there.

[Adam Azer]

I don't know that this is the same thing. All right. You know Pelissero just opened he that you cannot put MetLife turf in a tweet like that. You know, you're opening a big can can of worms there. All right, let's go to some losers. Romo Dunes A and sorry, I didn't mean to take a shot at I'm just making a joke, but obviously you put that in a tweet, people are gonna do exactly what we're doing right now. Losers Roma Dunes A for Heath. He was started in 76 of leagues. He's been terrible in four of his last six games. And Sam Darnold, who you already talked about, so. Oh man. Romo Dunesay or who did we talk about earlier today? You start like Michael Wilson over Roma Dunese next week if Harrison's out.

[Dave Richard]

Yes, probably.

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[Dave Richard]

PPR almost certainly.

[Adam Azer]

All right, what are we thinking Here. What's going on?

[Heath Cummings]

I have no idea. That's, that's part of the reason that he's a loser every time we get back into this. He's a must start wide receiver. He has one of these games. You, you said it's four of his last six that were terrible and like this was the best of those terrible games. We've got two games of five fantasy points, one game of zero and this one of six.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, well, Caleb didn't have a very good game today. Through for 100.

[Dave Richard]

He's the problem. He drops back to pass. He holds the ball too long. He's almost sacked. Oh, he somehow escapes. Now he's running all over the place and by the time he runs to the sideline he throws it away. And that's like five out of every six times he's improvising or scrambling to move around. And then one other time he completes a pass to somebody. It used to be Odunze all the time and now there's other players getting involved in that. No, Dunes is not getting as much.

[Heath Cummings]

In fairness to Caleb Williams, the zero point game that Roma Dunes they had. Caleb Williams threw for 280 yards and three touchdowns.

[Dave Richard]

He did. And a Dunes had a drop touchdown. There's definitely some of it that can be put at the feet of Roma Dunes A but the other thing that's happening in Chicago, which is going to put a nice big smile on Heath's face, is that they're running the football effectively and DeAndre Swift leads the way there. And as long as they do that and as long as a game comes along where we think Chicago will be able to run the ball, it's going to affect how many pass attempts that Caleb Williams is going to have. And so the games with 40 plus pass attempts where Odun could maybe catch seven or eight passes, those are going to be fewer and farther in between as they move along.

[Adam Azer]

All right, let's get to the losers of the of the century, the Los Angeles Chargers. As submitted by Jamie. I did some math. I think it's right. Justin Herbert, Kamani Vidal, Lab McConkey, Quentin Johnson, Keenan Allen and Orande Gadsden combined for 26.3 PPR fantasy points, which is basically what Jacoby Brissette scored today. So it was so bad, it was stunning. I don't know how this happened. Jamie, what do you have to say about these Chargers as they mercifully go into their buy?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No. Bad start of the week, bad performance by the Chargers. Just, just terrible. You know, I, I I have no words. It's hard to fathom. Watch me. You know like they from, from the get go. First play the game it was intentional grounding by Justin, her first passing game. Potential grounding by Justin Herbert. But I got banged up in the game. Obviously nothing got going and it was, it was bad. It was really, really awful. You know I, I think we'll see a better performance from them coming off the buy but it was, it was just not, not good.

[Dave Richard]

I'll double check this but I would guess that Herbert had his lowest catchable attempt rate of the year at 77.8%. That's really bad for like any non rookie, non bad quarterback. And I think we hold Herbert in pretty high regard.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

So he, he was flummoxed the offensive. I, I mean I didn't watch any of the game so I'm sure you had eyes on it was the offensive line just battered from the get go and the jack.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, yeah. No protection.

[Dave Richard]

Right. It's the same thing as last week.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

But this is the first time that the Jaguars have had a pass rush. They lost.

[Adam Azer]

They lost one of their best pass rushers too. You know the Jaguars. Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

It's his lowest catchable pass attempt rate of the year.

[Adam Azer]

It's concerning for sure.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

They were eighth highest in pressure rate Jackson this week.

[Dave Richard]

I got one for. This is even worse than the catchable attempt rate. I should have just said this. His a dot was 3.8 yards.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

And this is coming off of a game where his ADOT was 4.7 yards.

[Adam Azer]

That's it. Man.

[Dave Richard]

Can we do the wariometer again on Vlad McConkey and everybody else it was.

[Adam Azer]

Just McConkey because I. McConkey is probably the only one that people are going to see as a must start when they come out of their buy. Just a guess.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

There might be one other player if Hampton's healthy.

[Adam Azer]

That'd be nice.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

And, and I think people still start Gatson. I can't imagine that he's going to be completely benched.

[Adam Azer]

No, not completely. But must start. I don't know that he's gonna have must start status but. Yeah, that's the thing. I mean the A dot, the air yards without Joe Walt, they're really low. Which should be okay I think for McConkie.

[Dave Richard]

But we spent all week, we spent all week thinking about whether or not the way they used Quentin Johnston last week was going to continue this week. It most certainly did not. His A dot went right back up to 13.3. He only had three targets in the game.

[Heath Cummings]

Maybe should have.

[Dave Richard]

What do you mean, maybe it should have?

[Heath Cummings]

Maybe they should have stuck with that same role.

[Dave Richard]

Because that's what I'm saying. They would. I don't know why they didn't.

[Adam Azer]

It didn't. Why it did nothing. He didn't even have a good game last week. He's got a bunch of catches at the line of scrimmage. They're not doing anything offensively, you know, basically without their tackles. It's not just alt, obviously, they're super banged up. And, you know, you can say, what did he have last week? Quentin Johnson? I don't even remember.

[Dave Richard]

It's like it was like 10.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

PBR 42.

[Dave Richard]

He had 10 targets.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

And it's more explosive than Keenan Allen.

[Adam Azer]

Garbage targets, doing 10, 4.2 yards per target or whatever. That's terrible.

[Dave Richard]

It was terrible. But at the same time, like, if you're gonna throw short pass because your offensive line can't protect you, at least get the ball into the hands of your faster players. Easy to do that with lad McConkey. I think Gadsden's earned it. Why wouldn't they try and scheme up? Heath's right. They absolutely should have tried more targets. Short little slants, little crossers to Quentin Johnston and they didn't do that. They didn't do anything. They couldn't do anything.

[Adam Azer]

Oh, boy. All right, let's get to Dave's losers real quick. Parker Washington, two catches for 20 yards and Joe Flacco, 12 fantasy points at Pittsburgh.

[Dave Richard]

So the Steelers absolutely tried to get Joe Flacco to throw the ball away quickly. And he did that for most of the game. 40 pass attempts, and he didn't even have 200 yards. He had the one touchdown. It was a great throw to T. Higgins on a play where he actually did have time to throw. And then after that, there was just a ton of short underneath throws. Lots of Chase Brown, a bunch of Noah fantasy Jamar. Chase really didn't get involved on a lot of those. He had 10 targets he couldn't get going. But everybody's going to start him anyway. But we. We know that Joe Burrow will be back soon. Bengals sitting at 3 and 7. Their season's hanging in the balance. I almost wonder if they're going to try and rush Burrow to get back on the field as soon as possible. Maybe that does mean week 12 instead of week 13. I do not feel good about starting Joe Flacco moving forward. And there's going to come a time real soon where it's going to be easy to cut them and that's going to be based on Burrow, obviously. But the clock's ticking. It's the Patriots next week. It's going to be another tough matchup for the Bengals.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'd start them next week at home against the Patriots.

[Dave Richard]

Really?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

All right.

[Adam Azer]

Well, I also think again, I just don't think that it's a guarantee that Burrow comes back. I guess I'd lean that way at all. Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

If they lose next week, then they can make the case to not bring them back, but.

[Adam Azer]

Exactly. He himself want to play, man. I I know, but I I'm pretty sure Burrow himself acknowledged that the team's record could factor into it.

[Heath Cummings]

I will say the Flacco start next week probably depends on whether Jamar Chase is available.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, yeah. Oh sure.

[Adam Azer]

And Parker Washington is 58 roster. Dave, real quick, what should his roster percentage be next week?

[Dave Richard]

It's gonna go down. But I this was game script all the way. The Jaguars didn't have to throw that much. There was only 22 pass attempts for Trevor Lawrence. Jacoby Myers got the most targets in the game with six. But they, they ran the ball, my goodness, 34 times just between Tootin and ETN Laquin Allen had eight carries. Mopping up at the end of the game like this isn't how a typical Jaguars game goes. So I'd like to think that there's a chance for Parker Washington moving forward. But other receivers can get healthy in Jacksonville, I. E. Brian Thomas Jr. Myers will continue to take steps forward Parker Washington. Not the PPR stud that we were hoping?

[Adam Azer]

Not at all. All right, let's take a break and come back and talk about Miami, Washington and all the other games from today's action. We'll be right back.

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[Adam Azer]

Cmnobile.com all right, folks, welcome back. Goal line work. Yeah. How about Bijan Robinson getting some goal line work? I told you people were making out like, oh, Tyler Rogers are goal line guy. No, he's going to factor in. But Bijan Robinson had two goal line touchdowns. One of them from the four yard line, one of them super close. You're going to get a little frustrated with Ollie Gordon getting some work near the goal line. Seems certainly that Devin Singletary is the Giants goal line guy. You're going to get a little frustrated with Blake Corum working at the goal line. He worked at the goal line unsuccessfully. And then Kyron Williams came in and finished the job. Ken Walker scored a one yard touchdown run, but he did it. They were in hurry up. They were just keeping their personnel on the field.

[Heath Cummings]

So I had another touchdown run called back by penalty.

[Adam Azer]

He did. He did. Yeah, he. It was interesting that Walker played so much in this game where they were trailing. I actually didn't see the snap counts.

[Dave Richard]

But I've got it.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

You want to now or when we talk about the game? I'll tell you now. 51 for Walker, 43 for Charbonnet. But Charbonnet still had his edge on third downs and inside the 10, for what it's worth.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. And that's. That's about. Oh, yeah. Basil Tuden worked in work near the goal. He got a goal line touchdown. He's injured right now, but there aren't that many running backs that are, that are just gonna get all of the goal line carries. We're starting to see that. I'll skip the almost touchdowns. Let's get to the games. All right, Heath, you ready for some? Believe it or not, yes. Miami 16, Washington 13.

[Heath Cummings]

Bill and Zach's excellent adventure to the waiver wire. They should be two of the most dropped players this week. 85 and 89 rostered.

[Dave Richard]

That's a. Believe it.

[Adam Azer]

Zachary and Shakuri cross commer.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

And Bill's what, 89 rostered Chris Rodriguez, 18 rostered.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

One of my biggest regrets this season was when I dropped Crosky Merritt for who was the quarterback.

[Dave Richard]

That's. This is a regret.

[Heath Cummings]

It was for like two weeks.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, it was, man. Who was it? It was in the Super Flex League, right?

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, probably Jacobi Brissette.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It wasn't Jacob said. I wish it was a code. It was.

[Adam Azer]

I think it was Cam. No, it wasn't Cam Ward or someone I dropped.

[Heath Cummings]

Was it Cooper Rush?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It was Cooper Rush. I dropped for Cooper Rush. And every week that goes by, I'm.

[Adam Azer]

Like, yeah, it just keeps getting better and better.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Keep getting better and better.

[Adam Azer]

Mariota was okay. Tua was bad. Mario's pretty bad. He, you know, Mariota had 19.4 fantasy points going into overtime, chance for a nice game. They threw an interception. He ends up with 17.4. All right, question about this game because I think we pretty much know Waddle had a couple of drops or he could have had a good game. He had a ball knocked out of his hands in the the end zone. When Terry McLaurin comes back, let's say it's this week. Do we. Will we trust next week? Sorry week 14 or whenever there's their buys. Week 12 so week 13, when McLaurin comes back, if it's week 13, are we going to trust Debo Samuel as a start?

[Dave Richard]

Who they play Denver.

[Adam Azer]

It was more of a of a just in general, are we going to trust Debo when McLaurin's back?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I don't want to trust them as must start guys. With Mariota. I think if Jane Daniels is a quarterback it's a little easier to buy even if he's not 100. But with Mariota, I think it's just tough to trust. We've seen so many up and down performances. This is now five starts for Mariota and two good games for Debo. One good game for Earth's essentially nine PPR points last time. Like him, supporting multiple targets just doesn't feel safe. So I think just in the case of both of them, especially in a tough matchup, you probably just view them as high end number three receivers at best.

[Dave Richard]

Most of their games after Denver could be high scoring and that that encourages me with McLaurin and Debo, I don't think I'll ever view Debo as anything more than a number three receiver. But I think that there could be some good games if Daniels is back once they're past Denver.

[Adam Azer]

Next game. Chicago 19, Minnesota 17 the Bears are that team that just keeps winning These, these are the games the Vikings used to win all the time, but they're.

[Heath Cummings]

I think it's the same thing with the Chiefs and the Broncos. The Broncos are 5 and oh in these games now this year.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, look at that. Bears, Broncos Super Bowl. Don't even have to watch the third quarter, first three quarters. All right, what do we got for this one? Heath?

[Heath Cummings]

As long as Cole commit stays healthy, Colston Loveland's not a thing.

[Dave Richard]

I believe. I believe it. But I also think Loveland is victim to just so many mouths to feed in an offense that's not going to throw the ball a ton of from week to week.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Loveland and Burden are probably going to be two guys that we see so much potential. They'll make a player too. They may have a game that pops up that you're like, oh my God, this is great. It just doesn't seem like it could be consistent this season.

[Adam Azer]

Tell me how you're feeling about DeAndre Swift, who out carried Menangai 21 to 12 out gained him 90 to 23 but ended up having a horrible fantasy game because 21 carries for 90 yards with no catches and no touchdowns is bad.

[Dave Richard]

That's bad in full PPR and half ppr but in non ppr I think you'll take it.

[Adam Azer]

Okay.

[Dave Richard]

And he played almost 60 of the snaps. He still has a little bit of an edge on third down and this team can still run the ball that they're rotating. No question. One drive is Swift, one drive is Manangai and his two worst games this.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Season have come against Minnesota for. What's that? Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah. Yep.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean I, I think if you tell them you say any running back is getting 15 plus touches or certainly 20 plus touches, you're starting them on a week to week basis and he's just a number two running back. Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

All right. Pittsburgh next week.

[Heath Cummings]

I thought, I thought both the Bears and the Rams made themselves worse with this over rotating of running backs.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, man. Yeah, they'll fix it. At least in la. I think they'll fix it.

[Adam Azer]

I hope so. I mean Corum. Corum has actually been pretty good this year. You know, this week was horrible but it's getting frustrating.

[Dave Richard]

Aaron Jones, but my guy's been pretty good. I'm sorry. Adam Manangai's been pretty good for a while. I do not know the rushing average today but I, I think he's still going to be a factor.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I do think the problem with us expecting them to fix it is as they get closer to the playoffs and as they keep winning.

[Heath Cummings]

Yep.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

That it does not get fixed for our purposes.

[Adam Azer]

Aaron Jones is going to be a guy that I think a lot of people are going to be starting. I mean he does have Green Bay and Seattle in his next two matchups, but he is just domina touches. Jordan Mason did have a touchdown, but if you have Aaron Jones, you've got a good setup there. Carolina 30, Atlanta 27. Surprising score in this one and Panthers are 6 and 5 and Heath, what.

[Heath Cummings]

Do we got if Drake London is out? You can't start any Falcons pass catchers.

[Dave Richard]

I don't believe it. Because Bijan Robinson catches passes.

[Heath Cummings]

Oh, Dave, you know what I mean.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Well, I mean it's probably going to be. Be Cousins. It sounds like. Right.

[Dave Richard]

It'll be Cousins throwing the Mooney. I would.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I would think if. If there is no London and there probably is no Mooney, Pitts is still a starting Titan.

[Dave Richard]

I don't know. I don't know if I believe it.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, they're playing the Saints.

[Dave Richard]

I don't care. I've seen enough of Kirk Cousins this year.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, but. Yeah, but Pitts is going to get eight plus targets, PPR points. Maybe. But I. I mean, again, the potential is there for him.

[Adam Azer]

Well, which game did London miss earlier this year? Didn't he miss a game?

[Dave Richard]

He did.

[Adam Azer]

Which one was it? Remember, it was Miami. It was Miami. I think it was the same setup. Right. It was. No, it was Cousins with no Drake London. Was it Miami?

[Dave Richard]

And London did not play against Miami. Kyle Pitts had nine catches for 59.

[Adam Azer]

Yards on nine targets. There you go. Kirk Cousins through. How many passes? He threw 31 passes. That's quite a target chair. All right, something to consider. How about this? Believe it or not, Rico Dowdles 2.6 yards per carry over his last two games are cause for concern for fantasy managers.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You feel that way if his foot is in bounds and gets a touchdown.

[Dave Richard]

Right.

[Adam Azer]

I. I know. Well, I would ask it.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

Because that was on a catch anyway. But he has. You just wonder if they're gonna say, all right, listen, we need to back off a little bit and get Chuba Hubbard some more touches and this and that.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

They did this game or they got playing time.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. He didn't get.

[Dave Richard]

He did Lace.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I don't know. I mean, taking on the 49ers, we've seen this run defenses look like at times this year like he's a mustard guy.

[Adam Azer]

All right. Pittsburgh 34, Cincinnati 12.

[Heath Cummings]

Mason Rudolph is currently better than Aaron Rodgers.

[Dave Richard]

I don't know. Yeah, I don't. I don't know if either of them are particularly good.

[Heath Cummings]

I don't think it's a downgrade for the Steelers if Rudolph has to start next week.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

That I believe.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I think it's a small downgrade.

[Adam Azer]

Oh, man. DK last year Rudolph was great for.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Pickens.

[Adam Azer]

DK Metcalf, he was great for Gainwell. He was 87. Started Metcalf's at the Bears next week. Five catches for 49 yards on eight targets. Eight targets. Is that a season high for him? I think it is.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No.

[Adam Azer]

He had nine targets one game against Cleveland, but it's just not happening. You know, Jamie like crazy.

[Dave Richard]

And a bunch of catches late in the game were on like shallow underneath routes. I don't know if they were crossing routes, but they were real close to the line of scrimmage.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Rogers continues to miss Metcalf on at least one big play a week.

[Adam Azer]

Jamie, you were going to talk about Chase Brown as a winner, but then you changed it to Michael Wilson. But he had a really nice game. What do you have to say about.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Chase Brown in every start since Joe Flag? I'm sorry. Since the packers game. So the Steelers game was week seven. So since week seven on Chase Brown has been a back to being what he was a year ago. You know, the workload's been there for him, the production's been there. His two best running games for what it's worth, 99 yards rushing today, 100 yards rushing in week seven against the the Steelers work in the passing game has been fantastic. Like he's back to must start status.

[Dave Richard]

Yep, 83 of the snaps. So that's another big factor. Remember when Shimaje P. Ryan was healthy, brown was like 55 of the snaps. So getting the huge opportunity makes obviously a humongous difference. And he had a great game without the Bengals even getting inside the 10 yard line of the Steelers.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

And even next week, the Patriots run defense has been dominant. His again, you're getting four plus catches right out the gate.

[Adam Azer]

Milton Williams on IR for the Patriots. We'll see if that makes a difference in their run defense. All right. Houston 16, Tennessee 13. You know, Heath, before the game I actually talked about this Tennessee run defense. First game all year. They were going to have both of their defensive tackles healthy. It's happened before, but in each case one of them left with an injury. So I thought maybe their run defense will actually be good because it's usually when you could bank on that with Tennessee and they did a great job. 18 carries for 44 yards for Woody Marks. But what do you have for this game?

[Heath Cummings]

That's a great transition. You should go right back to Woody Marks on Thursday night against the Bills.

[Dave Richard]

I believe it. Yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

Usage was fantastic. Bill's run defense is atrocious. Short week. Here comes Woody.

[Adam Azer]

Here come the Bills.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Love it.

[Adam Azer]

All right, Nico Collins with another big game on the Tennessee.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Do we just want Davis Mills to say the starter? For Nico Collins's purposes, yeah.

[Dave Richard]

And that reason only.

[Adam Azer]

Let me just see something real quick before we. Before we do that here. I want to see Stroud 27, 24, 38, 28, 27, 49 pass attempts. 39 and then 10. So he has had three games with 38 or more pass attempts. I only bring that up because Davis mills has thrown 45 and 41 passes in his last two games.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Well, one was overtime.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, but. But it doesn't matter.

[Dave Richard]

They were both dog fights.

[Adam Azer]

I guess I'm just saying Nico has had games with CJ Stroud where Stroud has thrown a lot.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Oh, I'm joking. But obviously, I mean, like, Nico's performances have been better with DAV Mills. And you would think, just based on how the Bills should perform, like, the Texans are probably going to be chasing points again.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, next game, because we don't really have to talk about Tennessee because we're not starting anyone on Tennessee. Jacksonville 35, Charger 6. We covered the Jaguars. I'm sorry. We covered the Chargers. Do we have anything to say, like.

[Dave Richard]

We covered both teams pretty well.

[Heath Cummings]

Jacoby Myers is a start next week.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

They three receiver leaks. I believe it.

[Adam Azer]

They get the Cardinals on the road. Well, certainly depends on Brian Thomas Jr. Doesn't it?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yes, that would be a fair point. And Brent Strange.

[Adam Azer]

And Brenton Strange. All right. Travis ETN could have a really nice finish if. Well, even with Tooton. But if Tooton's not there, you know, could certainly pay off for you. All right, next game. Buffalo 44, Tampa Bay 32.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Okay.

[Heath Cummings]

You should drop Tez Johnson for Michael Wilson.

[Dave Richard]

Yes. If that's your most droppable player to get Michael Wilson, even if it's for just one week. I mean, it's all contingent on whether or not Marvin Harrison's okay to play.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's also contingent on Godwin playing, too.

[Adam Azer]

What do we make of Baker Mayfield right now? So let's take a look at his last 5 games. 4 games. 13.1 fantasy points @ Detroit. He just played horribly in that game. He missed open guys. Just a bad game. 4.1 fantasy points at New Orleans through 24 passes. I don't really remember the scenario there.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right.

[Dave Richard]

Defense had a huge game for and.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

The run game was good.

[Adam Azer]

Everyone's probably thinking, no, he's not going to be good. Against the patriots he scores 28.9 fantasy points and then today 18.8 fantasy points. But that was with five carries for 39 yards and a touchdown rushing. What are we. Where are we at, Heath? With Baker Mayfield, I think he is.

[Heath Cummings]

A borderline QB one. You definitely start against good matchups and definitely sit against the worst matchups. And if it's a middle matchup, then CVO got better. I probably don't want to start him against the Rams next week on the road.

[Adam Azer]

Then let's go to Buffalo. There's a really. It's fun to watch Josh Allen sometimes.

[Dave Richard]

It's fun to watch him every time.

[Adam Azer]

Take over Any Tyrell Shavers interest?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Okay.

[Adam Azer]

Any. How about, how about this? Any thoughts on Khalil Shakir, one of the most consistent players in fantasy having a horrible game. One catch for negative three yards. Dave.

[Dave Richard]

So Keon Coleman was better than Khalil Shakir after all in non ppr.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah. You know the big difference that the Bills made was spreading the ball around. They had three, six, ten different pass.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Catchers throwing to the running back.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, yeah. Throw the running backs a little bit more. That was a positive. They should have been doing that all along.

[Adam Azer]

All right. Not much to make of it.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's not going to be easy game for him Thursday night.

[Adam Azer]

Thursday night?

[Dave Richard]

No, no. But if Shakir is going to stick in the slot, which is where he normally is, he's staying away from those outside corners in Houston. And you'd think that it would give him an opportunity to have a nice bounce back game. I think, I think you can go right back to him as a flex.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah. How about Josh Allen you think will be a top five quarterback for you next week?

[Dave Richard]

Yep.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Some really good matchups next week.

[Adam Azer]

Okay, I have a question. Josh Allen next week or Geno Smith this week? Who did you take?

[Heath Cummings]

Josh Allen.

[Dave Richard]

Yes.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Okay.

[Adam Azer]

All right. Green Bay 27, Giants 20.

[Heath Cummings]

Christian Watson with his 20 point performance today will be the best packers wide receiver rest season.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I, I mean it's, you know, it's the grab bag.

[Dave Richard]

Right.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

And we don't know who's going to be in on a weekly basis. Why not take the guy with the most upset?

[Adam Azer]

Well, I think it's really only him or Dobbs to be fair.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right.

[Adam Azer]

There's no way we're going to pick Golden Or Wicks.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

No. And it feels like Musgrave may not replace Tucker Craft.

[Adam Azer]

Nob's had eight targets in this game. Four catches for 53 yards. Watson had four for 46 and two touchdowns on five targets. Targets.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So that is four high targets. He's incredible.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

Four or five.

[Dave Richard]

Awesome touchdown catch. The second one was awesome.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Both of them were.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Adam Azer]

Heath, I'm gonna take Dobbs and ppr.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Okay.

[Adam Azer]

Who are you gonna take?

[Heath Cummings]

I'll probably still have Dobbs higher.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I will too, but I probably would not feel confident starting any of them at this point.

[Adam Azer]

I obviously watched this game. I have to say, I think Jordan Love really played great. You won't see it in the numbers because they dropped a lot of balls and the pass rush was really all over him. I still think he might be one of the most over rostered players in fantasy though. At 93%. It's kind of weird. There's just like all this hope for Jordan Love. This is not their offense, but maybe that changes with. With Josh Jacobs out if he misses time. On the giant side. I. I don't know if the packers offense dropped more passes or the packers defense because they dropped three interceptions in this game from James Winston, but they got the one at the end, which ironically wasn't Winston's fault.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Fault.

[Adam Azer]

Wandale Robinson continues to be a little frustrating here, but he did have nine targets. How do you. Khalil Shakira, Wandell Robinson, who do you like better? Rest of season?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

How long is Darius late now?

[Dave Richard]

1.

[Adam Azer]

I'm gonna say one more game. Just a guess.

[Dave Richard]

I'll take Shakir.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. Well, I think you're crazy.

[Heath Cummings]

I have just about as much confidence in that as I do Romeo Dobbs versus Christian Watson.

[Adam Azer]

Wando has a buy. I forgot about that. So. So keep that in mind. All right. And then Theo Johnson. I don't know. Just kind of a disappointing game with Isaiah Hodgins coming in and leading the team and receiving.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, that's a crazy one. He was on the Steelers practice squad when this week started.

[Adam Azer]

Rams at Seahawks. Rams. No, this. Where was this game? In. In.

[Dave Richard]

It was in Los angeles.

[Adam Azer]

Rams win 21 19. It was a weird game.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Imagine getting four turnovers from Sam Darnold and nearly losing on a kick. Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

Devonte has had one of the strangest stat lines. Today was one catch for what, seven yards in a touch now?

[Dave Richard]

One yard.

[Adam Azer]

One yard. That's right.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

He's a goal line running back on eight targets.

[Adam Azer]

Eight targets. Yikes. I.

[Heath Cummings]

No, it didn't look very good between him and Stafford and it wasn't. I didn't think it was all either of their's fault. They both made some mistakes on those targets but I mean you're gonna start them again next week. I'm not sure anybody cares. AJ Barner matters but Rashid Shahid doesn't.

[Dave Richard]

I don't believe it. I'm not sure either one of them matter.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Okay. I think A.J. barner's in that 12 to 15 range of tight ends.

[Adam Azer]

Well, he's also there's tush push guy.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right. That's part of it is that he's going to get some of those stupid chances. Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

And he's converted on seven out of eight I believe. What about the game for Ken Walker, Jamie? He started in 53% of leagues. Ken Walker had 16 carries, 67 yards and a touchdown, a one yard touchdown as I mentioned earlier and three catches for 44 yards. This is after five straight games with single digit PPR fantasy points.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Clearly if your trade deadline has not happened yet, this should be one of the biggest sell high candidates you can find. And as you just alluded to, they're playing the Titans this week and the Titans run defense could be surprising in not the good way to help your running back situation. So I think when we had the mailbag there was somebody that said they were trading for the Seahawks running backs and we said there's the potential of if one goes down, the other one could be a superstar. So if you want to kind of, you know, see about that happening, if there's a Zach Charbonnet injury then we get all of what the best of Ken Walker could be. But at this point, like I'm going to use this game as a selling point and try and flip him for something that could be better long term.

[Adam Azer]

Okay. Anything else in this game I think we're good. They just didn't really Puka Nakua had a very modest game but they just didn't really throw the ball that much. 28 pass attempts, they didn't have the ball that much. Should we be trying to sell Kyron Williams based on this? What it's now five of his last six he's has 14 or fewer carries. You can't just mock it because if Blake Coram scores that touchdown then then Kyron is a terrible game. We're supposed to see beyond the box score. Heath and beyond the box score is telling me that this guy is in.

[Heath Cummings]

A timeshare and I'm laughing because we've been saying it for three years no, that's not true.

[Adam Azer]

I mean, one of the.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Dave.

[Adam Azer]

No, one of the appeal. No, the, the appeal of Kyron Williams. He's a good running back on a great offense and he gets all the work. That's not the only two of those three points are good, are valid.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Now.

[Dave Richard]

He's had at least 15 PPR points in five of his last six games. He's averaging 16.5 on the year. That's the 10th best running back in PPR. And he doesn't catch a lot of passes. At some point, Adam, you're just gonna have to throw your arms up and say, all right, I'm starting. Kyro.

[Adam Azer]

Do it every week.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's not.

[Dave Richard]

At some point I get what are we doing here?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

And this was against a really good run defense, too.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah.

[Dave Richard]

Yes.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yes.

[Heath Cummings]

He was awesome early in this game.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yep.

[Adam Azer]

What are we doing here, you ask? Okay, what we're doing is we're looking at a player who is producing and we're thinking to ourselves, is this production legit or is it too good to be true because his role is not good enough? We would do this with basically any player. I don't know why we're not doing it with Kyron Williams. Now. I'm hopeful that after this game they say, like, listen, he's gonna be our goal line back, but if he's just alternating everywhere, including at the goal line, and he's not really that involved in the passing game, I'm not saying you sell him for peanuts. I'm saying maybe this is peak value for this version of Kyron Williams.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, every, every player draws a, a price to a certain degree, you know, so if you have the ability to trade Kyron Williams for something that has maybe long term pill. So, like, if you think Bucky Irving coming back is going to be better than Kyron Williams, maybe you can do some sort of package for Chiron and for Bucky and something else. Or if the Josh Jacobs manager is going to lose him for a week or two, and you think that you want Josh Jacobs coming back because of what he has been and might be better than Kyron because he has been, then maybe that's a trade you try to explore as well for some sort of package deal. But at this point, I think you know what Kyron is, as Heath alluded to, like, he's just a very solid number two running back. He's the lead running back even in a timeshare on a very good offense. And there's touchdown potential on a weekly basis.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I Would like to look up what his snapshot was in December of last year. If you give me a minute, I will look it up. I wonder if it increases they got closer to the playoffs. We see that all the time from teams that want to keep their best players on the field as they make their playoff push.

[Adam Azer]

It's a different situation, though. He's never split.

[Dave Richard]

I don't think. I don't know if it's gonna be, though, because Blake Corum had a terrible game.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, but Blake Corum's had a good season. Season again.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I'll just go. I'll go back to what I said earlier. If they continue to win, they're going to try and keep Kyron as fresh as possible for the playoffs. So if this is working for them, they're going to continue to do it.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, look, I don't want to be the anti Kyren guy. I've got him in two leagues. I start him every week. I'm just wondering if we thought maybe it was an opportunity to try to get.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

What do you think you can get in trade for him at this point? Like. Yeah, because I think everybody that's paying attention sees that he's not getting every touch like he usually does. But at the same time, there are people that look at it and say, okay, he's producing every week.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, I would say maybe.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Who would you rather have rest of season? Kyren Williams or Javonte Williams? Forget about what happens tomorrow.

[Adam Azer]

Oh, great question. That's Javante.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Kyron Williams or Rico Dowdle?

[Adam Azer]

Kyron.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Kyron Williams or Chase Brown?

[Adam Azer]

Kyron.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So, I mean, that's the. The range of players I think he belongs in. Maybe even Derek Henry. You know, they're kind of similar.

[Adam Azer]

No, I. I completely agree. It's. If, you know, Jameer Gibbs is a horrible game tonight. Can you get Jamir Gibbs for Kyron Williams? And. And something not straight up. Not straight up.

[Dave Richard]

Better be a big something like an.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Idiot would trade, like Christian McCaffrey for Kyron Williams and Nico.

[Adam Azer]

Hey, that worked out pretty damn well for me the last couple weeks. All right. All right, let's go.

[Dave Richard]

So here's December 2024. These are the Snap shares for Kyron Williams. 67. 82%, 86%, 84%, 94%.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

But there's such a huge difference, though. They. They what? Sean McVeigh has another guy that he seems to trust.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, but whether we like it or not, same snapshot as he had all year last year. It didn't increase in December. He's his Snap shares are lower now than they were at the beginning of this year. He's lost work compared to the beginning of this year.

[Dave Richard]

He always, at some point they're gonna trust him more than Corum.

[Adam Azer]

They already do trust him more than Quorum.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Like we're gonna, we're gonna get a game. To your point, Adam Quorum finds the end zone today instead of Kyron Williams and the splits are still the same. And then the panic, you know, button gets hit because people are like, oh my God, this is happening and this is not what we wanted. And you know, Heath will tell everybody calm down and he's gonna be right. But you know, the, the, this is what happens.

[Heath Cummings]

He's going to have the game DeAndre Swift had today.

[Adam Azer]

Right?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Exactly.

[Adam Azer]

Exactly.

[Dave Richard]

Could have the touchdown.

[Adam Azer]

And it's sad because if they, if Corum weren't part of the picture, then I think you're talking about a top five.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Would you trade Kyron Williams for Travis ETN straight up? No.

[Dave Richard]

No, I wouldn't.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, if. Well, if Tootin's out for the. I have no idea what Tutin's injury is, but in a tudinless world, I think I might. I think I would.

[Dave Richard]

So I wonder if people who are running back hungry could go to the Kyron Williams manager in their league and gauge how that manager feels about Kyron Williams and if they feel like you might feel maybe the price tag won't be so bad for him.

[Adam Azer]

I, I guess I just think like.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

If you're, if you're expecting a top five running back, he's not going to be that in this environment, if you're expecting a top 15 running back, you're fine.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. All right.

[Dave Richard]

I'd go a little higher than top 15. I think he could be top 12.

[Adam Azer]

I, I agree with everything. I totally. I, I honestly think we're on the same page. Just felt like worth bringing up because he's been so good, but unfortunately he has Quorum, you know, getting too much work. All right, we got three games left. Let's try to do it quickly here. San Francisco 41, Arizona 22. People are asking about Ricky Pearsall. So Ricky Pearsall had a total. Dude, give me a believe it or not on pure Saw.

[Heath Cummings]

I'm not going to react to Ricky Pearsall's first game back from an extended absence in a leg injury. So I don't think you should either. I'm not going to ask to believe it or not about it. Brock Purdy and Jacoby Brissette are both top 12 quarterbacks rest of season.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, I believe it with Brissette.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, I believe it both.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, there's probably enough quarterbacks where you can squirm a little bit and with Purdy you might not.

[Heath Cummings]

I wouldn't be surprised if Mike Purdy scored the same number of points as Brissette and we have a lot longer history of him being good than Brissette. And the 49ers defense is not good.

[Dave Richard]

Through less than half as many passes too as per second.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

All right, good news on Drake London as well.

[Dave Richard]

What do you got?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Chapter says Drake London's knee injury is not thought to be overly serious and he is scheduled to undergo an MRI Monday to determine the extent of injury and how much time he will miss if any per sources.

[Dave Richard]

I love how like both of these these updates are like these players aren't nothing serious but they're getting MRIs.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Well, I mean look around. A gadson got an MRI and he was fine. He played the next week.

[Dave Richard]

Listen, I hope they're there.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I need the bottom line is it doesn't sound like end of season for either one. Right.

[Adam Azer]

You know what they said about Drake London's the injuries said it would have been a lot worse if it had been on the MetLife turf. What I heard. But Ricky Pierce all played 85% of the snaps which is good. But generally speaking, as someone who's had a lot of Ricky Pierce all I have very, very low expectations. I just, I don't think I'm going to be sitting there.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

You asked, you asked the question earlier. I think if Michael Wilson's available and Ricky Pierce was last guy on your bench, you're dropping Ricky Pierce off for Michael Wilson.

[Heath Cummings]

There's a a decent chance he's fourth in the target tree and there's a.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Decent chance we might be fifth if IU comes back too.

[Adam Azer]

There's a different chance that we just that it's a week by week thing. You know that next week Kittle has a horrible game and Pierce all is good and it's just. It's like the Chargers. Hopefully Kittle is the the consistent one, the conky of them. All right. Baltimore 23, Cleveland 16.

[Heath Cummings]

Mark Andrews touchdown was the first awesome thing to happen with the push push.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I would just go back to the Cardinals real quick. Greg Dorch should also be picked up too if Marvin Harris.

[Dave Richard]

Yes.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right.

[Heath Cummings]

Did you see how fast Mark Andrews looked?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

That was great.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, it was great. Outran a linebacker really enjoyed it.

[Adam Azer]

35 yard touchdown for Mark Andrews. He just Keeps putting up fantasy points.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

That's the first rushing touchdown ever.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah Derek Henry guys encouraged feel the same 18 carries, 103 yards and a touchdown two catches for 19 yards. It was looking like going to be another bad game for him. Had a really good second half.

[Heath Cummings]

Jets. Bengals. Steelers. Bengals.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

Here comes Derek Henry.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

All right.

[Dave Richard]

Tiffany had a bad game. He would have been one of the biggest buy low guys you could have asked for.

[Adam Azer]

Jets run defense has stepped up I know on a. They obviously give a huge game at Travion but on a per carry basis the last two weeks they've been surprisingly good against Judkins and and Travion Henderson on the other side you just can't trust any Browns but Quinton Judkins we did worryometer with him earlier sorry. So Harold Fannin Jr. 71 roster are you looking for replacements? You dropping him for Juwan Johnson? I think he's only about 44 rostered.

[Heath Cummings]

100 yes I'd rather have Joanne Johnson but he not going to be ranked like outside of the top 15. I don't think he does get the Raiders next week.

[Adam Azer]

Okay Last game Denver 22, Kansas City.

[Heath Cummings]

19 yeah, I think somebody put a believe it or not in the chat that the Chiefs were going to miss the playoffs.

[Adam Azer]

I don't believe it.

[Dave Richard]

You get nervous about that?

[Heath Cummings]

No, I think. I think 12 and 5 was my prediction so you just gotta win out it's not that big a deal.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So who, who's. Who's guaranteed to be in right now? Broncos are going to be in Patriots.

[Heath Cummings]

Patriots.

[Adam Azer]

On the Colts. Not so fast.

[Dave Richard]

Denver, New England, Indy are your top three seeds right now before taking into consideration you think Jackson will catch I mean it's over. The Raiders don't matter. So for the week Pittsburgh's the four seed, Buffalo's the five seed the Chargers are the six seed and the Jaguars are the seven seed I think there.

[Heath Cummings]

Are four teams that are in and one of them is a wild card.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Right.

[Heath Cummings]

Both the Bills and Patriots are in, Broncos are in, Colts are in and then Steelers, Chargers, Jacksonville, who knows Chiefs.

[Dave Richard]

Ravens could be in that Texans.

[Heath Cummings]

Texans are tied with the Chiefs.

[Dave Richard]

Right.

[Adam Azer]

It's pathetic on my part by the way total host fail that I have not brought up RJ Harvey yet. I should have led the show with him instead of an hour and 10 minutes. But why I say don't that I'm not quite ready for the to put the Colts in. They get the Texans and the Jaguars twice they get the Chiefs on the road, Seattle on the road and San Francisco. The Colts have a brutal schedule and four games against teams that are chasing them in the division, so they'll probably make the playoffs. But I think if there's one thing that could collapse, it's them.

[Heath Cummings]

I'll be very nervous right now.

[Adam Azer]

What's that?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Cold start. Seven wins right now. Eight.

[Dave Richard]

Eight and two.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Eight and two. So they'll split with Jacksonville. They never went in Jacksonville. Yeah.

[Adam Azer]

I'm just saying they're probably gonna make it. But if there's one team that could collapse, to me it's the, it's the Daniel Jones led Colts.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

It's very reasonable. I mean, I think just looking at it like does Houston catch them?

[Adam Azer]

It's gonna be tough.

[Dave Richard]

They're. When you say their schedule is bad, like it's. I don't know if there's one that's even worse than theirs at Kansas City.

[Adam Azer]

Houston just gave it.

[Dave Richard]

Oh, you gave the whole thing.

[Adam Azer]

Yes. Let's talk about RJ Harvey. JB what are your thoughts on RJ Harvey? Jaleel McLaughlin got the touchdown. Harvey had a pretty bad game. Thoughts.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

I mean, we, at least we know now there's, there's no J.K. dobbins for the rest of the regular season. So they have their bye week to sort of get whatever their plan is going to be together, which I'm going to guess based on Sean Payton's history is going to be a frustrating committee. You should be adding Jalil McLaughlin. I wouldn't be dropping RJ Harvey. So what's their schedule? Coming off their bike.

[Dave Richard]

Afraid to read it to. Because they have a buy.

[Adam Azer]

They're at Washington at Las Vegas, Green Bay, Jacksonville at the Chiefs and then the chargers in week 18.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

So it's a mixed bag. I think you treat Harvey as a high end, flex and hope for the best, you know that he closes the season strong.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah. Do you at least take away some satisfaction that he played 61 of the snaps?

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Yeah, of course. I mean the, the idea was what, what was this going to look like? We knew. I, I don't want to say we knew. I did not expect him to get the majority. The, the, the entire entirety of the touches to, you know, completely dominate the backfield. And so it was going to be. Was it going to be one guy? Was going to be, was going to be one other guy or two other guys. And so I think just looking at it, you know, and reading some of the stuff at the end of the week, especially once Dobbins was placed on ir, it was almost all the beat Writers said they're going to elevate McLaughlin over Tyler Bidet because of keeping Bidet in his role and giving McLaughlin the. The. Basically the Harvey touches, you know, shifting those around a little bit, but the Harvey playing time and so, you know, how is that all gonna look? And so it just was kind of wait and see. And, and listen. This is one of the best run defenses in the league, so it wasn't going to be easy for Harvey. And so you want to see what it looks like coming back against Washington. Like, that could be amazing.

[Dave Richard]

Yeah, Hope so. Yes.

[Heath Cummings]

I. I just want to finish the show by saying, Adam, you did a fantastic job in the FFT league this week.

[Jamie Eisenberg]

Stop.

[Heath Cummings]

Just like the fantastic roster building started Michael Wilson started. Travion Henderson. You had 142 points and your quarterback hasn't even scored a full point yet. You are just kicking my tail.

[Adam Azer]

Yeah, I know you're gonna beat me. I know you're. Good job me.

[Heath Cummings]

No, you are gonna beat me. You're like, you're like a 70 win chance.

[Adam Azer]

That's because the website thinks that Jalen Hurst is going to score a point tonight. But I got news for you. This is a garbage passing game and they are not. He's gonna have another stinker. All right, listen, Kane's Gators, right now, we gotta go. We gotta watch this basketball game. But Thomas and Jamie probably weren't even aware of.

[Heath Cummings]

Oh yeah, the boozers. Oh, no, they went to Duke.

[Adam Azer]

All right, we'll talk to you all later. Have a great night. Have a great day. Beyond the box score on Monday. See you later.

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[Heath Cummings]

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[Dave Richard]

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[Heath Cummings]

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[Adam Azer]

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[Heath Cummings]

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[Dave Richard]

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[Adam Azer]

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