Week 16 Recap! Biggest Surprises, Winners and Losers (12/22 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

Fantasy Football Today: Week 16 Recap! Biggest Surprises, Winners and Losers

Release Date: December 23, 2024
Host/Analysts: Adam Aizer, Dave Richard, Jamey Eisenberg, Heath Cummings, and Crew
Podcast Description: Dive deep into Fantasy Football with CBS Sports as Adam Aizer and his expert analysts break down weekly performances, strategies, and insights to help you dominate your league.

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1. Introduction and Week 16 Highlights

Adam Aizer kicks off the episode by setting the stage for Week 16, highlighting the unpredictable nature of the games and the importance of staying updated with the latest player performances and injuries.

2. Wacky Stats of Week 16

Dave Richard introduces some of the most unusual statistics from the week:

• Jerome Ford's Impressive Run:
  “Jerome Ford now has four carries of more than 60 yards in his career. That is so impressive.”
  (03:17)

• Brock Purdy's Dual Role:
  “Brock Purdy led his team in rushing with 26 yards. Not all waiver wire running backs are equal.”
  (04:09)

• Dorian Thompson-Robinson's Passing Stats:
  “Dorian Thompson-Robinson threw for more yards than Josh Allen today. 157 to 154. It's crazy.”
  (04:14)

These stats underscore the volatility and excitement in Fantasy Football, where breakout performances can dramatically influence weekly matchups.

3. Player Performances: Winners and Losers

Winners:

• Chuba Hubbard:
  Dave Richard praises Hubbard's standout game:
  “Chuba Hubbard, 32 fantasy points, 25 carries, four catches, 165 total yards, two touchdowns, game-winner in overtime.”
  (06:12)
  Hubbard's versatility and high usage made him a top performer this week, reinforcing his value in PPR leagues.

• Jameson Williams:
  Dave Richard reflects on Williams' resurgence:
  “This is his first game outdoors of the year and he was a monster. Shows he is still one of the better receivers in the league.”
  (22:50)
  Williams capitalized on a favorable matchup against the struggling Bears, delivering significant yards and a touchdown.

• Anthony Richardson:
  Dave Richard highlights Richardson's potential:
  “Anthony Richardson is not even going to be a top 12 quarterback this week. It was such a good week for quarterbacks.”
  (23:52)
  Despite mixed performances, Richardson's upside in upcoming games presents a valuable asset for fantasy managers.

Losers:

• Chester "Cooper" Kupp:
  Heath Cummings expresses frustration over Kupp's performance:
  “Cooper Cup scored five fantasy points. This was a game where Rams threw 42 passes and Kupp had the same number of targets as Tyler Conklin.”
  (26:39)
  Kupp's reduced targets and inefficiencies led to a disappointing week, impacting his reliability in fantasy lineups.

• Patrick Taylor:
  Jamey Eisenberg criticizes Taylor's performance:
  “Patrick Taylor was a fourth-year player who'd never been fantasy relevant and doesn't look like he's fantasy relevant even when everybody in front of him gets hurt.”
  (30:22)
  Taylor's limited involvement and underwhelming stats make him a poor option for fantasy starts.

• Aaron Rodgers:
  Dave Richard scrutinizes Rodgers' decline:
  “He had a 40-yard interception that was so bad. You don't get a touchdown from throwing to a Panthers defender.”
  (25:27)
  Rodgers' turnovers and incomplete passes marred his performance, diminishing his fantasy value.

4. Injuries and Their Impact

Heath Cummings and Jamey Eisenberg delve into the injury reports affecting key players:

• John "Jonathan" Taylor:
  “He got hurt but played 11 yards in the first quarter, showing no significant concern.”
  (05:39)
  Taylor's injury status remains stable, allowing him to continue as a cornerstone in fantasy teams.

• Devante "Devo" Smith and Dalton Schultz:
  “With Tank Dell out, are you going to be interested in Dalton Schultz against the Ravens this week?”
  (35:52)
  Schultz's role may expand due to Dell's absence, offering a potential boost in production.

• Jerome Ford and Jacob "Josh" Jacobs:
  “Josh Jacobs has not had four carries. It’s really impressive as part of a good day for Jerome Ford.”
  (03:40)
  Ford benefits from Jacobs' limited usage, becoming a more attractive option on the waiver wire.

5. Playoff Implications and Team Standings

Adam Aizer and Dave Richard discuss the looming playoffs:

• Eagles' Playoff Quest:
  “They are eliminated from the one seed because the Lions and Vikings have head-to-head matchups and both have AFC losses.”
  (08:12)
  The Eagles' elimination alters playoff dynamics, pushing other teams into contention.

• Rams' Potential NFC Championship Run:
  “The Rams could make it to the NFC Championship game just based on playing indoors and managing their offense effectively.”
  (10:46)
  Staying indoors gives the Rams a strategic advantage, potentially propelling them further into the playoffs.

• Steelers and Ravens' AFC Standings:
  “The Steelers or Ravens, whichever team does not win the division, is going to end up in the five seed, facing the Texans on the road.”
  (10:46)
  Both teams face tough matchups, impacting their playoff seeding and fantasy relevance.

6. Rankings and Waiver Wire Recommendations

Heath Cummings provides insights into waiver wire pickups and rankings:

• Top Quarterbacks:
  “Jaden Daniels led with 44 points, followed by Jared Goff and Bryce Young.”
  (36:50)
  Daniels' strong performance solidifies his position as the top QB option this week.

• Running Backs to Watch:
  “Jonathan Taylor, Chuba Hubbard, Devon Hn, Saquon Barkley, and James Cook are our top five running backs.”
  (38:32)
  These RBs exhibit consistent performance and high usage rates, making them reliable starts.

• Wide Receivers for Consideration:
  “Jameson Williams and Khalil Shakir had notable performances, while Garrett Wilson remains a cautious pick.”
  (22:50 & 27:37)
  Williams' breakout game and Shakir's reliability offer strong options, whereas Wilson's inconsistent target distribution warrants caution.

• Tight Ends Analysis:
  “Dalton Schultz remains a dependable option with consistent targets, while Travis Kelce's performance continues to fluctuate.”
  (40:24)
  Schultz's steady involvement makes him a favorable start over Kelce's unpredictable outputs.

7. Fantasy Betting and Upcoming Matches

Jamey Eisenberg touches on betting opportunities and the upcoming Thursday Night Football:

• BetMGM Promotion:
  “Visit betmgm.com and use the bonus code Fantasy to receive a $1,500 first bet offer.”
  (19:14)
  Encourages listeners to engage in fantasy betting with promotional offers.

• Thursday Night Football Preview:
  “Seattle Seahawks vs. Chicago Bears, coverage begins at 7pm Eastern on Prime Video.”
  (45:36)
  Highlights the key matchups for listeners to watch and consider in their fantasy strategies.

8. Mailbag and Listener Interactions

Heath Cummings engages with listener feedback and questions, addressing concerns about lineup decisions and player performances:

• Listener Concerns:
  “If you started Garrett Wilson over Keenan Allen and lost, it’s understandable frustration. Balance your lineup based on consistent performers.”
  (39:22)

• Strategic Advice:
  “Consider the reliability of your players and their matchups rather than chasing high-risk, high-reward options.”
  (55:55)

9. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Adam Aizer wraps up the episode by emphasizing the unpredictability of fantasy sports and the importance of staying informed:

“Football is on and it's only on Prime Video. Make sure to adjust your waivers and start/sit decisions based on the latest performances and injury reports.”
(45:36)

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Notable Quotes:

• “Chuba Hubbard, 32 fantasy points, 25 carries, four catches, 165 total yards, two touchdowns, game-winner in overtime.”
  — Dave Richard (06:12)

• “Cooper Cup scored five fantasy points. This was a game where Rams threw 42 passes and Kupp had the same number of targets as Tyler Conklin.”
  — Heath Cummings (26:39)

• “Dalton Schultz remains a dependable option with consistent targets, while Travis Kelce's performance continues to fluctuate.”
  — Jamey Eisenberg (40:24)

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Final Takeaway:
Week 16 presented a mix of standout performances and disappointing outings, reshaping playoff potentials and fantasy rankings. Key takeaways include leveraging waiver wire gems like Chuba Hubbard and Jameson Williams, monitoring injury updates closely, and strategically positioning your lineup to maximize consistency and upside. Stay tuned for more insights and prepare for the crucial Week 17 to bolster your championship aspirations.

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Born in Vegas, it's Adam Azer with Jamie Eisenberg and Heath Cummings here on Sunday night. And we are recapping the action. Would you like some wacky stats from Week 16? Yes. Okay, good.

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Jerome Ford now has four carries of more than 60 yards in his career. That is so impressive.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Did anybody in the NFC North?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

No, nobody had one.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

We got one game still to go.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Oh, no, that's not true. Taylor did. Barkley did.

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He goes for 60.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Barclays did. Taylor did. But you said it was the end. You were comparing him to the NFC North.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

I was comparing to the four starting running backs in the NFC North. Like Josh Jacobs has not had four carries. I don't know if he's had any of 60 yards. It's. It's really impressive. And it was part of a good day for Jerome Ford. All right, number two, wacky stat. Brock Purdy led his team in rushing with 26 yards. Not all waiver wire running backs are. Are equal. James Cook led his team in receiving with 26 yards.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

And maybe touch the ball more than 12 times a game. Come on. What are they doing?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

This one might be the wackiest. Dorian Thompson. Robinson threw for more yards than Josh Allen today. 157 to 154. It's crazy. And Heath, you and I were talking at the very end of FFT Express.

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We went into this week kind of.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Nervous about the elite quarterbacks, right? Lamar Jackson, bad history against Pittsburgh. He scores over 20, 25 points. His best game against Pittsburgh ever. Joe Burrow, bad history against Cleveland. He scores about 27 points. Jayden Daniels facing this Eagles defense. He scores 44, 45 points. Who else was it? Jared Goff. Freezing cold weather at Chicago, you know, or whatever it was outdoors in December. Huge game for him. And then the two that were like the no brainers were Hertz and Allen, but. Yeah, what do you think of the quarterback play? Really just a great day for offense today. It.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

It was the. The Bills game was just weird. New England completely dominated time of possession the first third of that game. I think Josh Allen and The Bills had 11 yards in the first quarter and like three possessions in the whole first half. And Hertz obviously got hurt. So basically every like. And you didn't even mention Mahomes because we don't consider him an elite quarterback anymore. But he scored 25 fantasy points and, and took off running like to start the game against the Texans. The ankle was no concern. Everything we worried about, there was no reason to worry.

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Yeah, pretty much.

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And maybe that's a good time to say, like some people, times people speculate as to why we might be a couple minutes later than they're expected. I thought Eric had a very good message in the chat. Adam is holding the ladder for his wife to go into the attic to check on the noise.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

No, as you all can tell, I'm not at home. I am in the Stanford office because my WI fi is out for the second straight weekend and it did not come back in time this time. But anyway, sorry if I look a little strange today. All right, Jamie, who's a big winner for you today?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Big winner for me. What I sent you. Chuba Hubbard. Great day for him.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, it was a great day. Probably he's not, not good enough to be the number one running back today because Jonathan Taylor takes that. I think Taylor scored the third most fantasy points of any running back in a game this year. But Chuba Hubbard, 32 fantasy points, 25 carries, four catches, 165 total yards, two touchdowns, game winner in overtime. What do you have to say about him?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

You know, I, I think we had a little bit of concern, right, coming into the game because he wasn't great last week. And this Arizona run defense is awful. And I, I would not be surprised given the fact of what the Rams have done on the road the last two games, playing in bad weather, that they go home against the Cardinals team next week that just got eliminated from playoff contention, that they absolutely destroy them. Not that Kyron Williams was not expected to have a good game or you would be sitting him in any capacity, but he may absolutely go nuclear.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Heath, who's the biggest loser this week?

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Oh, they're like as great of a day as there was for offense. There were a few and I think Jerry Judy, AKA the Cleveland Browns wide receivers, everything went pretty much like we expected with Dorian Thompson. Robinson in terms of passing. And to make things even worse, David Najoku came back and was just himself. Didn't seem to be impacted that much by the quarterback change. Jerome Ford was awesome. But the wide receivers have been completely nerfed by the absence of Jameis Winston.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

What do you think they do next week? Did that's fancy already announce it or no?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yes, he said if he's healthy because Dorian Thompson Robinson does have an injury, a hamstring or something like that, he will start. He plans to start him if he's healthy against the Dolphins.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

So they're. They're in tank mode.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

It's so strange. Like, it doesn't even make sense. He turns the ball over, too. What does he do better than.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Well, Jameis has a better chance to win a game.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, right. I mean, but. But I don't know that these coaches. I understand what you're saying, but I don't know that these coaches are thinking that way. Dorian Thompson, if they were, the Raiders.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Would not have won today. I mean, that was the dumbest thing ever.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Not for me. It was the great, great day. However, I do think it's pretty likely that the Eagles will not have anything to play for in week 18. It seems like that's the.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

They lost the chance at the one seat today.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Oh, they're eliminated from the one seed?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Well, no, they have three. They have three conference losses, and the Lions and Vikings play each other head to head. So whoever loses, if either one lose next week and still lose the following week. The Lions losses. I don't. The Lions lost to the Bills and I forget who else, but that's an AFC loss. And the Vikings also lost in afc.

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So they're out of the one seed.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I'm pretty sure we were trying to figure this out.

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I think you're right.

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I'm almost certain that the Eagles would lose the tiebreakers to get the one seed.

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Yeah. So they're not gonna have any. If they win next week, they lock up the division and they have nothing.

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To play for because both teams can't. Both. Both the Vikings and Lions can't lose out.

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Right. Right.

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Both the Vikings, Lions can't lose out. And. And they both have AFC losses.

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How about that week 18 Minnesota Detroit game? That could be fantastic. All right.

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I'll tell you what. I know we got a lot of football left, but I'm so fascinated by what the Vikings are gonna do with Sam Darnold.

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Bro. You would have been. I mean, you know, I don't you guys have a much, you know, better relationship with Bryant McFadden BMAC than I do. Former Steelers cornerback, CBS Sports contributor We had such a funny argument. He was saying, as a Steelers fan, as a Steeler, that he. No, he wasn't saying.

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Rather play at home against Baltimore in the first round of the playoffs than on the road at Houston. And I was like, are you kidding me? Like, I don't care where the game is. Nobody wants to play Baltimore ahead of Houston. But it is where it's a fun time to talk about these things and all these scenarios right now, because if there's no win, the division works out for them.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

The interesting path in the playoffs is a team you don't really want to see. I think right now is the Rams. And if it works out well for them, they're going to get a home playoff game. If they win the west, they could potentially go on the road to play the Lions or the Vikings. So they're staying indoors. And with the way Detroit's defense looks right now and Minnesota, look, I know they're playing a great season, but I think the Rams could beat them. Like, they could. They could make it to the NFC Championship game just based on playing, staying indoors. Like, I think they go outdoors, they could be in trouble. But.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

But I could be wrong about this, though. But on the AFC side, the team, the Steelers or Ravens, whichever team does not win the division, is going to end up in the five seed, facing the Texans on the road.

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Unless they lose their next two.

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Yeah, that's possible. But in all likelihood, they'll be the.

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Five because the Steelers play the Chiefs and the Bengals. Like, they could very easily go to 10 and seven and be the six or seven seed.

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And then they'd play the Ravens in that case.

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[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I mean, first off, you want to hope Trey Benson's healthy because then he would step into the starting role, you assume and get an opportunity to showcase what he's capable of doing if Conor doesn't play. But Michael Carter would be the next guy up. And so he's going to be, you know, someone who's going to be very popular on the waiver wire as well. So we're looking at a situation where it's not going to be easy against the Rams. You know, again, Cardinals get Anytime you see these teams get eliminated from the playoffs, like, I wonder how much that played into the 49ers, knowing that when they kicked off, they were eliminated from the playoffs and they struggled against Miami, for example. So gonna be a tough game for the Cardinals all the way around. Desperate situation. Trey Benson would be the priority if healthy. Michael Carter is the fallback option.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

All right, more news items for you. Justice Hill left with a concussion and Tank Dell with the dislocated kneecap.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

What a horrible, awful situation. Awful.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

T. Higgins left with an ankle injury, but he came back. Also, if you're watching the show, you might notice that I have no idea where my camera is and I keep looking at the wrong thing so you can laugh along at me right in.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Front of your face.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, George Pickens could play this week. See, I'm used to my old one and I keep looking like over there, George Pickens could play this week they're playing Christmas Day against Kansas City and Drake London left with. Does anybody have an update on Drake London? He has the hamstring injury, but he played most of the snaps.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I didn't I see if he came back in the game because I would guess they were probably being cautious with it. You know what's, what's crazy is we got a practice report from the Steelers today. I was like, what?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Next week is so weird. Are they right? This upcoming week, there's three games on Saturday, there's nine games on Sunday and.

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[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

It's.

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We've got a Wednesday, two Wednesdays, a.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Thursday, three Saturdays, Sunday.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I've been, I've been tasked with trying to get start sit done by Tuesday, which will be the earliest I've ever written in my life.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Oh, my gosh. Drake London. Raheem Morris said he does not think it is serious. Okay. More news items. That's about it. Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Oh, quarterback situation.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah. Jalen hurts. I'm sorry, I didn't say that one. That's the. Obviously the big one.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Well, not only is he injured and Sirianni did not give an update on this, apparently Kenny Pickett also injured his ribs at the end of the game. So they may be down to their third quarterback, who I do not know who that is.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

All right. They got Dallas at home next week, one of those 4 o'clock games on Sunday. And the Cardinals, I'll mention the Cardinals were playing without their starting left tackle. Then they lost their starting right tackle during the game.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

So, no, they're starting better than play either.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Oh, wow.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

So there you could be ruled out before the game for illnesses.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Oh, for illnesses.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Wow.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Panthers and Cardinals.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Everyone's sick, man. Everyone's sick right now. Okay, that's it for the injuries. Let's go to. I'll do a quick segment here. We did this one last week, but of course he did this on my bench. How about Debo Samuel, 40 started seven catches, 96 yards and a touchdown on nine targets, five carries for 25 yards at Miami gets Detroit next week. Jamie, is he back?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Is Debo back again? Eliminated team. We'll see, you know, what their motivation is to, you know, play. I'm sure they're going to want to play Spoiler after, you know, knowing that Detroit was a big competitor of theirs, you know, for, for last season in the NFC Championship game. So I think he's going to be in the number three receiver range, you know, so you'll feel a little bit More confident in him. And look, we know they tried to get him going last week. He also nearly had a. A play to get them down inside the five that was turned overturned by penalty. So he could have had an even bigger day. He looked good. He really did, you know, and. And it's a shame that it took this long in the season for him to start playing like the. The guy that we hoped he would be all season long.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

DK Metcalf, Heath, of course, he did this on my bench, although it wasn't really that great. Three catches, 57 yards and a touchdown on seven targets. Are you encouraged by this? For DK Metcalf, it was all in.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

The first half, right? I'm not sure he did anything late in that game. They were all going to jsn. So I'm. No, I'm not gonna say I. I thought I was going to be encouraged. I almost changed him to one of the winners, but I didn't want to jinx him for the rest of the game. And then it turns out he didn't do anything the rest of the game Anyway. I think three for 57 and a touchdown. Like, if you had to start him, you feel fortunate. But it shouldn't make you feel any better about what we've seen, because it's really the same thing we've seen for six weeks now. He just happened to get into the end zone.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Tyrone Tracy Jr. I had in this category. He ended up with a solid game. He caught a touchdown. He was only started. He was only started in 39 of leagues. I think people.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Yeah, it's hard to judge.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

I know it is. Yeah, I know it is. I was going to say that. I just. My gut is people were kind of sick of Tyrone Tracy and. And we're over him, so whatever. I. I don't know that he did that much to quell the fears. I mean, catching a touchdown, this team is horrible.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Obviously, the thing that I said during the week was, like, the reason that I was sticking with Tyrone Tracy was because he had the 10 targets in the last two games. He had four targets in this game. He made a great kit. Like, the touchdown was a great catch. He's very good as a pass catcher. Had another four catches. I think you. I'm going to go into next week expecting he's going to see five targets. That's going to make him a starting running back for me in PBR. And the seven carries don't feel good. But there were only 11 running back rush attempts in this game, just 55. Offensive plays from the Giants. So I I feel pretty good about Tyrone Tracy. I'm starting.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

You also just look at what happened to the Colts against the Titans, and I think you can assume there's going to be a lot of targets once again for Tracy. So I had him ranked as a low end, number two running back. I'm sure he probably had him a little bit more a little higher in his rankings. I think, you know, in ppr, I think you could feel comfortable with him as a low end starter because, you know, look, the touchdown wasn't a broken play. It was wide open in the back of the end zone. Drew Lock hit him in Drew Lock fashion, nearly overthrow him.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

So it's just a matter of this offense is going to struggle.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

All right. And that's just, that's a quick segment there. We'll do some winners and losers in a second.

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[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

All right, let's get to our winners and losers. Jamie, you got Jameson Williams, Chuba Hubbard and Anthony Richardson. Jameson Williams with five cat. This probably should have been. Of course he does this on my bench. Five catches, 143 yards and a touchdown on seven targets. Great performance for him and honestly, you know, you saw the big play. His A dot was only 12 or 13 yards so he was getting a lot of, you know, non deep balls which is nice to see. What do you think about Jameson?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I was dead wrong on golf, playing this great outdoors. You know I didn't say to sit him but I did say to sit Jameson Williams because his track record on the road this year was not great and that was some indoor games and he didn't play in the in the packers game outdoors. So this is his first game outdoors of the year and he was a monster. And you know, look, the Bears are terrible. It wasn't really about the matchup at all. It was just a matter of, you know, could the the Lions Offense continue to do this. And the thing about this Lions team right now with all the injuries on defense is they're going to have to outscore teams to be successful and they clearly have the ability to do it. And this was a classic game of play against the team that stinks and do basically whatever you want it to do. And that's, you know, LaPorta had a nice catch for the touchdown, obviously, Amara St. Brown made some big plays, and then Jameson Williams with the big player over the top, you know, so made me look stupid for saying this. Hit him and just shows you that he is still got the ability to be one of the better receivers in the league and better fantasy receivers as well when he gets targets.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

And then Anthony Richardson gonna be a top 10 quarterback next week against the Giants.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

My early rankings, he's in the top six. I mean, there's just a great opportunity here against a bad defense to continue to do what he did this week. I thought he would have played. I thought he. I thought he would play well last week. He obviously did not. I thought he played well this week. He clearly did. When he's got good matchups, he's got the ability to be, you know, such a difference maker. And that's what we have next week against the Giants. So they still are in playoff contention. You know, we keep talking about maybe the Bengals get in. Well, right now the Colts are ahead of the Bengals. So if the Bengals beat the Broncos and the Colts went out, which is clearly on the table for them, then they could somehow sneak into the playoffs and Richardson's got an opportunity to help lead the way. So good for him to bounce back after disappointing performance last week and beat up on a bad defense.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

You know, Anthony Richardson is not even going to be a top 12 quarterback this week. It was such a good week for quarterbacks. And then there were guys who didn't even really play all that well, like Brock. Purdy outscored Anthony Richardson. He scored over 24 fantasy points. Geno Smith. Geno Smith played all right.

[New Balance Representative]

He was up there.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Caleb Williams scored 26 fantasy points. Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray and Anthony Richardson basically had the same amount of fantasy points. And they're both outside the top 12. They scored about 22. And Kyler did not play particularly well.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

From what I had one of the worst interceptions I've ever seen where he's rolling right. Nearly ran past the line of scrimmage. He had Trey McBride so wide. The more wide open Trey McBride is, the more he misses him. And so he's wide open on the sideline by himself. Couldn't. I mean, he could have been standing there picking his nose for all he wanted to, and he threw it down the field right to a Panthers defender. It was just awful.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Can we make an elite team? The elite players who were horrible this week. Team. Josh Allen and Trey McBride come to mind. I don't know, like Joe Mixon.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Joe Mixon, Another running back. Who would it be?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

It's not so easy, but I just like just thinking about Trey McBride as you finally faced him this week, you know, Good for you. But who else who was bad this week? Jerry Judy. Is he on the team?

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

He's been elite. Yeah, he counts.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

He's been amazing lately. Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup. Scored five fantasy points.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Breeze Hall, I guess.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

No, Breeze had a bunch of catches.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Oh, yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Who's our second running back?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I'll tell you.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Brian Robinson Jr. Pollard. Yeah, Pollard was bad.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Both aren't really elite though, right?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

No, not quite. Brian Robinson Jr. Was so bad.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

You got a lot of guys in this category. So you got Pacheco and ETN and Brian Robinson and Pollard all under.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, it's hard to get an RBTO there. Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

What about running back by committee?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Oh, Chase Brown. Yeah, it was. He wasn't horrible, but it was a good week to face Chase Brown, that's for sure. 13 fantasy points for him. Worst game in a long time.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Who are the receivers? Cooper Cup.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

You said Cooper cup and Jerry Judy would be for me.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Oh, we got to find a third one.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Okay, that shouldn't be too hard.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Trey McBride and Kelsey. Well, Kelsey's not elite anymore either, but.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

No, Kelsey's a must start. No doubt about. That's a good one. Yeah. We can put him.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

He was all Corland Sutton, maybe sudden.

[New Balance Representative]

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[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

10.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Marvin Harrison. Jacoby Myers. Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Garrett Wilson, maybe.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Oh, Wilson was better than.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, yeah. He wasn't bad enough.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I think it's got to be maybe Marvin Harrison.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Ooh. Xavier Hutchinson had a bad game.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Wide receivers who were terrible. Khalil Shakir would definitely be on the team.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Oh, yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Two touchdowns. He never drops anything.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

All right, about. How about that? How about that? Bill's DST touchdown. What a strange play that was.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

I was facing Dave in the yolo League, and I think it was Russo that, like, ran a circle around the ball in the end zone before somebody else came up and fell on it for the touchdown.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

I'm like, pick it up, pick it up. All right, Heath's winners. Jerome Ford, 51 started, 91 rostered. Jonathan Taylor Dave wanted me to. Well, no, I'm. He didn't ask me to do this, but I'm going to give him a shout out because he, he loved Taylor. He predicted a big game for him today. Everybody liked him by 218 yards, three touchdowns and Chigo Conquo so interesting list here. Ford, Taylor, Okonkwo.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

So Taylor's like short but sweet. Just a reminder that he is one of the elite running backs in the NFL. And even when he's not getting targets, even when he's not been good lately, even when he knocks you out of the playoffs because he dropped the ball on the one yard line, he's still a must start running back if you have. And he didn't knock you out of the playoffs because he dropped it at the one. It was me like it's me and Jamie. I think both lost leagues because of that. Chig's probably the most interesting one because we saw this massive game from him when Rudolph took over for Levis last week. And then he gets 11 targets this week, catches nine of them for 81 yards. Then he gets to face Jacksonville in the fantasy championships. Like I still fondly remember Devin Aroma showedu because he won me A championship with two games out of nowhere back in 2009 for the Bears. Chico Conquo might add his name to that list.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

This year he's going to be one of these guys that has another strong game and we're going to either get fooled by him next year.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Yes.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Because I mean look, you go back to the combine, he was the fastest tight end that year coming out. I spoke to him that off season. I was so excited about him. This is going into 2023. So excited about his, his potential because you know they, they didn't have a lot of high end weapons and thought okay, he's going to be featured in this offense. Was not this year. They, they tried to replace him. They drafted another tight end that they liked and you see what his upside is. I mean he's an athletic freak. He can do a lot of different things in this offense if they give him the ball. And hopefully this is maybe unlocking his potential that you'll probably draft him if you do as a tight end two next year. But given targets, who knows. And they're gonna most likely have a new quarterback.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

All right. And the losers, Heath's losers are Jerry Judy, who we talked about you had Zach Charbonnet. We're take him off the list.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Yeah.

[New Balance Representative]

Can we throw Patrick Taylor on there?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Maybe.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Oh yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

And Garrett Wilson like we talked about.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

This with Patrick Taylor though, it's like it's not the same thing. Isaac Grindo was a guy they drafted last year who was one of the most athletic running backs in NFL Combine history, maybe the most athletic. Patrick Taylor was a fourth year player who'd never been fantasy relevant and doesn't look like he's fantasy relevant even when everybody in front of him gets hurt. I, I can't imagine feeling confident starting him even if Garendo's out again next week. The Garrett Wilson one's super frustrating because this was a game where Rogers threw 42 passes and Wilson had the same number of targets as Tyler Conklin and Breeze hall got back in like Breeze hall seemed to be maybe more closer to 100. So he was back involved in the passing game and Alan Lazard's there now and he had five targets. Like it's just Devonte Adams is a clear number one wide receiver in this offense and everybody else is fighting for scraps.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, I just want to say this about Taylor. There's no chance I'm starting him or anything like that, but he played most of the snaps. I don't have the percentages, but he played like 80 something percent of the snaps. I think he was the only running back that was really involved. I mean use, not counting, use check or anything, but he was the only running back. So if you had told me, I'm looking at it now. They had 61 offensive snaps, he played 48 of them. I would have expected a much better game from Taylor, but he only had eight carries and he had, he had five targets and one catch for one yard.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

So it's also cost an interception too.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

What's that?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

He should have cost them interception. He had a ball bounce off of his hands. That Dolphins defensive lineman pinned the ball to the ground. His helmet popped up. Jones, I don't know his first name, but helmet popped off.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

And he almost got murdered. But it was, it was a bad drop by by Taylor. I, I, I wonder if you know, if you're the 49ers and Grendel doesn't play next week, do they maybe give Banacanda chances to see what they have there or you know, Keyshawn Vaughn? Because Taylor, look, he, he, he did what they, he didn't do what they need him to do but he, you know, he played in, in a, in a tough spot and you know, you've talked about this in terms of the Dolphins run defense and how good they've been in the second half of the season. So this wasn't going to be an easy matchup unless he scored next week. Again, they're eliminated, you know, so hopefully Grendel's back. But if he's not, you wonder what to do.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Who do they have next week? Right, Right, right. Okay. And then Jamie's losers were. Aaron Rodgers scored about 14 points against the Rams on 42 pass attempts. Cooper cup, three catches, 24 yards on three targets, and Tony Pollard, who had eight carries for 35 yards and two catches for five yards. And yeah, Tajie Spears, man, huge games and nobody's starting them. But okay, so you got Rogers cup and Pollard.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

So Rogers. I was nervous about coming into this game just because he did what he did last week against the Jacksonville Jaguar defense that we know is bad. And this Rams defense, you know, I, I said it during the week, they got beat up by Josh Allen. They had done a great job against Jalen. They did a good job in limiting the production for Jalen Hurst. They did a good job in limiting the production of Brock Purdy. Good defense, bad defense. Well, you know, we, we're going to find out. The weather did not help the, the conditions, but this is just, I think, you know what Rogers is still capable of on a downside, you know, like you were to say 40 some odd past attempts. You'll sign up for that all day long because he had been playing better, you know, the coaching staff talking about that he looked healthier and feeling like himself now. He missed some throws where Devonte Adams was open. I didn't, I didn't watch the game closely yet. So I go back and watch, but the, the times, the few times I looked up like he had atoms on a couple passes that I saw, he clearly missed. He got a little bit banged up in the game also, but he's just, he's just flawed. I mean, you know, you got a 40 year old guy with an Achilles in, in bad weather now. We'll see what happens next week against the Bills defense that just gave up three total touchdowns to Drake. May and May look okay at times throwing the ball. I can't imagine many people are going to trust Aaron Rodgers though, if you did survive and get your fantasy championship.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

All right, and then Pollard, you know, the thing about Pollard was this game was a blowout at halftime and they, they, well, it was a blowout like maybe in the third quarter and then there was a furious rally for the Titans, but they were trailing. He actually had, he had six carries in the first. Like he basically got the work in the first half, then the game script was terrible. Next week they're at Jacksonville. So do you think we can go back to Tony Pollard or. Just can't trust this guy's too hurt.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

So I think depending on what the practice reports are, you'll feel more comfortable if he's able to get some semblance of work in at all during the week. But the matchup is very good. So I think if you're looking at it from the standpoint of can he. Can you trust him?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

How do you drop that ball, Jamie?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Oh, yeah, it's Sterling Shepard. Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Don't throw the Sterling Shepherd.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Stop JB in his tracks.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Well, when I saw your reaction, I knew something bad happened. And on fourth down, no less, I think for the third down. Falcons, right, huh?

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

This is a big game for the Falcons.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Huge game for the Falcons. I think for the. It's a huge game for the Cowboys. They're still alive. The. Where are we?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Tony Pollard.

[New Balance Representative]

Trust him next week.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I think depending on what your. What your situation, what your team looks like. Like, again, I did my early running back rankings and he's around running back 20, you know, so.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Okay. And you said Cooper cup is another loser. Very quiet day for Matthew Stafford.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Very quiet day. And I, I will go back to Cooper cup next week simply because this is. This is the type of game that they're going to bounce back. This is two bad games on the road in bad weather. Going back home against the Cardinals. Cardinals are clearly, you know, thinking about Cabo at this point, and there's a big chance here for the Rams to have a huge blowout victory at home.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

I do want to apologize to the casual Cowboys fans who just got a glimmer of hope because Jamie said they were still alive because the Cowboys are very, very dead.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Oh, they gotta lemonade today, right?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Yeah. I feel bad for that guy. He's like, oh, we got a chance.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Jamie doesn't know. Jamie doesn't know where the Cardinals are going on vacation. It could be going anywhere. They're not necessarily going to Cabo.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

True. All right, so in a matter of.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Seconds, how about a look at the top five at each position today? And quarterback number one is Jaden Daniels at 44 points. Jared Goff, two.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

You remember some of the questions we got this morning about Jane Daniels?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah. Jaden Dan. Yeah. I mean, a lot of it was like Kyler Murray or this guy.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

So anyway, that's a Michael Pennix or just.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Oh, I don't Remember that one specifically, But Daniel's golf, Bryce Young 30 points, Sam Darnold to 28 points and Joe Burrow 27. Kind of like feels like there should be more big scorers, but only one quarterback with more than 31 points. But a lot with 25 or more.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

I think that burrow one was weird, too.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Why is that?

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Last touch, that last touchdown they threw did chase.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Like on second down with like a minute 45 left on a free play.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, I don't know if they do that if not for a free play.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

But you also see what. What he. The fumble he took at the goal line.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Oh, yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

It's crazy. Yeah. That was a roller coaster if you had Burrow. But. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, there's not much to say here unless you want to talk about Bryce Young, Sam Darnold.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I mean, Darnold. I think you're just starting regardless at this point. I don't know why anybody would blink twice if you're, you know. He got you this far. Bryce Young. Look, two QB league, super flex leagues. He's been fantastic if you've been starting him, you know, better part of the last month. And I mean, Tampa Bay's defense, as we know, not exactly the. The toughest of matchups and probably winning.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Enough to make sure that he gets to start again next year.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Oh, we should definitely get a chance to start next year.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

And at running back, our top five, Jonathan Taylor, Chuba Hubbard, Devon Hn, Saquon Barkley, and James Cook.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

How about Devon Hn doing what he needed to do for our fantasy teams? Not taking a knee.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Oh, yeah, that's right. Taking it all the way to the house at the end there. But finally a good running. It took them a while. They were not running the ball successfully early. But finally a good running game for the Miami Dolphins. Taylor Chuba, H.N. barkley, James Cook. They are who they are. It was kind of a chalky week except for Hubbard, who Jamie already talked about. But Hubbard next week has the Bucks. Yeah, Bucks on the road and wide receivers. We had Justin Jefferson, Keenan Alley. I don't know if you guys. I don't know if you guys had anything that you were mad at yourself for. I think I said it to one of you guys, maybe off the air, like, I really wanted to start Keenan Allen over Garrett Wilson all week. I just had a feeling and I didn't. I was too scared.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

I started Garrett Wilson over Keenan Allen in the league.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

I. I hate us, Heath. I hate both of us. Yeah, it Just. I, Yeah, I don't know. I've, I've, I was, I was excited for Keenan Allen today and he's the number two wide receiver in fantasy right now, by the way to the guy who dropped him in the podcast league last week so Jamie could pick him up and play him against me this week. Thank you so much. Brian Thomas Jr. 3. Jameson Williams. I didn't win yet. Debo Samuel and Alama Days Achilles. Does he matter?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I mean, their, their receiving core is not exactly the healthiest right now in. Jameson Crowder caught two touchdowns. He has got two touchdowns. You know the way Jay and Daniels is playing right now and they get the Falcons next week. Oh, revenge game.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yes. But no, I don't think anyone's gonna trust Zacchaeus top tight ends this week.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Wasn't Trey McBride.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Good grief. It was not.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Wasn't Travis Kelsey probably right.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Brock Bowers, Chigo Conquo George Kittle, Dalton Schultz, David Najoku and Sam Laporta tied with David Najoku. Only one. Only two of those top five. Well, top six. But two of them are tied for five. Caught a touchdown. This is PPR scoring all next summer.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

I'm wearing a very thick rubber band and I'm just gonna snap myself every time I think about saying tight end might be good this year. What a disaster.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

But Jamie, I asked Heath this and he didn't seem so interested. With Tank Dell out, are you going to be interested in Dalton Schultz against the Ravens this week?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

It's now two of his last three. Wait, so 13? They played 14. They're on a buy. 15, not so great. And this is 16. So two of his last four games. He's been good.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Also of his last 16.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

I mean, well, okay, now here, here are his fantasy points in his last six games. 9.6, 8.3, 4, 17.1, 3.3. And like 15 this week. So that is 8.3 or more PPR fantasy points for Dalton Schultz in four of his last six games. In three of his last five games now he has. How many targets did he have? Seven. They have at least seven in this game. He had. Yeah, he had eight. So it's seven or more targets in three of his last four or five games. And no Tank, though.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

So basically he's in that stretch. He's outscored Travis Kelsey, I think.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, yeah, probably.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

And.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Oh, yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I mean, I, I, I. Look, you're going back to McBride if you advance. You're not getting cute there. It's the people that like starting Pat Friarmouth and Jake Ferguson, who knows how this game will finish and, you know, have to replace Kate Otten. Like, there are going to be people that need Dalton Schultz. So. Yes. It's not, it's not, oh my God, I'm excited to start Dalton Schultz. It's oh my God, I need to start Dalton Schultz. Like we just told everybody to go pick up and start Bren Strange.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

What I said on express was I would if I have to make that choice, I'm choosing Chig against Jacksonville over Schultz against the Ravens.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Agreed? 100.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

I don't know if I agree with that. I just like Chico Conko's had two good games. I know they're his most recent.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

So is Dalton Schultz.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Not really. He's had probably four.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I would say the ceiling is higher for Chick. The floor is safer for Schultz. I would take the chance on the guy that's had 21 targets in his last two games.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

But we're completely, I don't think you guys are are factoring in the Tank Dells thing. Like this is going to be the.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

First time that he's playing over quarterback the last two games and Chico Conquo has blown up.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

These are not the first games for Mason Rudolph. He had three games early in the.

[New Balance Representative]

Year and Chick did nothing.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

And in those games, I believe one of those, Hopkins might have still been on the team.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

I have no idea.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Also, nothing may be unfair considering you're counting eight point games as good games for Dalton Schult.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

No Tank Dell. All right, all right. We're gonna take a break, come back and talk about the games.

[New Balance Representative]

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[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

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[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

By the way, if you lost today and you're out, you don't have any teams left and you're still watching right now, let me know in the chat. I just want to know how many of you are just here for fun because that's really cool. I think a lot of people would would not even want to talk about fantasy football if they had been eliminated. So let me know. I'm curious. All right, Baltimore now actually we'll start with the Chiefs. Chiefs 27, Texans 19 and yeah, really nice game for for Patrick Mahomes, but what we saw From Joe Mixon 8.1-PPR fantasy points against the best Run defense in football. Now he gets the Ravens in the fantasy championship. Are you guys gonna be scared off of Joe Mixon now? 14 carries, 57 yards, one catch, 14 yards.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

First off, kudos to you. You said he was potentially had a bad game and you questioned us on our rankings of him. He's now falling into RB2 range. I mean, it's. He should benefit with Dell not being there with a couple additional catches and, you know, Stroud getting the ball out quick. And the Ravens have struggled with pass catching running backs over the course of. So he's not a sit. But I don't think you should anticipate him being a league winner for you based on what's happened the last couple of games. Offensive lines let him down. They haven't been running the ball very well. Like, this is a. This is a team you got to worry about in the playoffs, you know, so your conversation with BMAC earlier, you know, about who do you want to face? Like, everybody wants to face the Texans right now just based on how poorly they look.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

And that's a big difference.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Start mixing.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, well, that's the big difference between the Chiefs and the Ravens. The Chiefs give up the fewest receiving yards to running backs. The Ravens the fourth most. So that's, you know, that helps.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

We just saw the Steelers running backs had six for 60 and a touchdown. Through the air against them.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Through the air. I don't know where the targets were in this game. I mean, like, I was, I guess, quote unquote, right about mixing for. For being nervous. I still started him in two leagues. I didn't have any choice, but he didn't really play that poorly. Right. Like, he looked pretty good.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

They're struggling to run the ball, and so he's just not getting anything easy right now. And that's the problem. You know, so. And I, I. A month ago, maybe, I don't know at what point, you know, he was. He was in conversation to be one of the best running backs of the season. You know, he was. He was up there with, you know, behind them, but, you know, behind Barkley and Henry and. And those guys. And he's just slipped lately. And so part of that's been. I think he's played her a little bit, you know, got banged up in the Dolphins game. You're not. Again, you're not sending him unless you're just in a very good situation. So 10 team leagues, you might be able to. 12 team leagues. It's almost impossible to say somebody like Tonics.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

All right, another question for this game. How do you guys feel about Dalton Schultz now with Tank? Let's go to the Chiefs. Can't really trust the running back here, unfortunately.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

It's funny that, like, we spent the whole time that a Pacheco was hurt. You trashing for Cream Hunt for being such a bad running back, and now he's actually better than Isaiah Pacheco. I guess I'm probably gonna rank Hunt higher next week.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I did already. Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

And then we've got the receiving core. I mean, Xavier Worthy's coming on strong here. Marquis Brown barely played and got eight targets. Who's trusting a Chiefs receiver next week? And who's trusting Travis Kelsey next week?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Again, I'm not benching Travis Kelsey for Dalton Schultz, so if you have oral conquo I just don't think I could do that. I'm sure he's probably feeling the same way. There's. He looks old. I mean, he really does. I.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Okay, wait a time. Are we worried about old man Kelsey playing his third game in, like, 10 days or whatever it is?

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

He's not been good in the first two, so, yes, we're worried about him. We're still starting him. It sucks. I. This is a good time to tell people. Like, I think it was smart if people changed their waiver wire nights to Wednesday night. You got to go fix that for this week. Like, waivers are gonna. Oh. Before the Christmas game.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Holy cow. Oh, gosh.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Go change waivers. If your waivers run on Wednesday. And because, like, you're talking about this game, that's next week, and it's closer to us than the Thursday night game from last week.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Can somebody remind me tomorrow, please? Because all my links run waivers on Wednesday. I think Xavier Worthy's been fantastic for, like, three weeks now and feels like he's the safest of the group, but Marquis Brown is definitely worth picking up. And so if you're stuck, I don't know how many people are going to want to start him, but if you're.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Stuck, like, yeah, super low 8 out for Marquis Brown. Just kind of a short area target, but a bunch of catches. All right, that's enough of that game.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Trust Hopkins.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Let me tell you what's going to happen in Jamie's leagues. Okay? He's going to change it to Tuesday, and that's the end of the season. He's going to forget that he changes next year. Week one, he's going to forget to do his waivers because he's going to think they're all. He's going to forget to put his Own waiver claims and he's going to think I got till Wednesday night. No problem. They're all going to run on Tuesday.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

That will not happen, Mr. Donald Mooney.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

All right, Baltimore 34, Pittsburgh 27.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

If I do, I'll tell everybody, unlike you, who just decided on a whim, I'm just going to run waivers today.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

No, that's not what happened. I don't know exactly what happened, but it wasn't.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Oh, yeah, you don't know what happened. Just miraculously.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

All right. Anything to say about.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I think this offseason you should give me Darnold Mooney about the Ravens.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Ravens and Steelers. Yeah, they did. Flowers was good. 100 yards for him.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Yeah, Flowers was good. I wonder what they do with their second running back. Is there pass catching, running back? Because I'd be surprised if just Justice Hill after that nasty hit that he took, is able to play. So is. Is it Ali, Is it going to be Keaton Mitchell? Is it going to be just more Derrick Henry? Does it matter? You know, like.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah. All right. And then Mark Andrews caught a touchdown for the first time against Pittsburgh. And for the first time ever, he has a touchdown in four straight games. Nice job, Mark Andrews. Rams 19, Jets 9. What is your confidence level in Breeze Hall? 14 carries for 52 yards, five catches for 38 yards against the Bills next week.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

So I said earlier this week that I could had to decide between Breeze hall and Devonte Smith and Keenan Allen this week in a league and I think now next week I have to start decide between Garrett Wilson and Keenan Allen and Jordan Addison because my Breeze hall faith is higher than my Garrett Wilson faith.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Okay. Is it higher than your Keenan Allen faith?

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

I don't know who they're playing.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

They are playing San Francisco.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

No, no, no, that's Detroit.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Oh, one of the team. Oh, Seattle.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Seattle. Yeah, we'll see what the.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I'm starting Keenan Allen over those guys.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Okay.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I think in terms of Breeze hall, almost like a similar range of Joe Mixon. Like he's just a number two running back at this point. This offense just doesn't produce a lot of rushing yards. Right. Now, remember, he struggled against Jacksonville. He got lucky with a touchdown. Thank God he was involved in the passing game today.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Right. It's a huge deal compared to the prior weeks was that he had 14 of 19 running back Rush attempts. So like the clear running back rusher, and he had six of seven running back targets. So the clear guy, they're using the passing game as well.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

So Isaiah Davis play.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, he had Three carries and all right. We talked about Garrett Wilson. I can't imagine we're gonna be picking up Tyler Higby. Tyler Conklin, though, has got five or more targets in three straight games, but no, we're not gonna be picking them up. Detroit 34, Chicago 17. Great game for Jared Goff. Jamir Gibbs was. Was great as we expected. Yeah, just terrific game for the 49ers. And then Jamie, good call on Caleb Williams. You liked him a lot. I think he had him in your top 10 score. 26 points and he gets Seattle next.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Week and got a first half touchdown, no less.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

So with the way Keenan Allen's playing right now, DJ Moore was solid. Colcomet, you know, whatever score. Touchdown. I. I just think Caleb Williams, you kind of know what you're getting. Like he's going to give you some garbage time production. He's going to run around a little bit. You know, he's not safe. But this was a good matchup. I don't think Detroit's defense is good right now, clearly. So I'm not going to be as excited about him this week that I was next week that I was this week, but I'll still consider him a starter.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Like, can't you just kind of put Kyler and Caleb and Anthony Richardson in a hat and like, one of them's probably going to be awesome each week and one of them is going to be terrible this week. They were all good, but they're all kind of the same guy.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

It feels like this with the other good matchups, though.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

And I was told today that Caleb Williams leads all rookie quarterbacks in passing yards, I believe. Is that surprising? I think. I think he's ahead of it. Might not be. It's very close. They're all pretty close to each other. DeAndre Swift with a bad game.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Sam Laporta scored his first touchdown outside.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

He's one for seven. Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

So swift next week against Seattle. Yay or nay?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

No, nay, if possible. Like mixing. Still better Breeze. Hall's still better. He's better than Patrick Taylor. He's better than. Who else have we talked about?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Well, he's better than like Madison and Abdullah. I would. Maybe not. I can't. Madison I can't deal with. I. He stinks.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Abdul is so much better. What's that against the Saints? All right. Colts 38, Titans 30. Faith in Toy, in Calvin Ridley. Three catches, 78 yards and a touchdown. Got most of it on one play. Only five targets and he'll get the Jaguars next week.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

He Already had this revenge game once and he stunk, but that was with Levis. So I think you just consider him number three receiver.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Yep.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

So what it. Does anybody have anything else to say about Taji Spears slash Tony Pollard? I have something in my eye.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

He didn't even. He didn't even have a good day as a rusher. Spears, he just scored the two touchdowns. I think if you think the Titans are going to get blown out, then Spears has a chance to have a good day. But if you think it's gonna be competitive, then Polar does.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

It's almost like it's a. I don't want to say it's a poor man's version. It's just a similar version of the Steelers. Like. Yep, Pollard and Naji are similar. Porn and Spears are similar.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

You know, if you had. If you had Tony Pollard and Josh Downs next week. Pollard against Jacksonville, Downs at the Giants. Who you start?

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Probably Pollard.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

All right. You did get a touchdown from Josh Downs today, so nice work. Josh Downs, three catches, 61 yards and a touchdown on four targets. Cincinnati 24, Cleveland.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

And again, just to go back to this, if Pollard is out because he's probably not going to practice again, Spears is a top 15 running back. Like I'd start him over. Mixing and Breeze Hall.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

All right, now, Jerome Ford was a. Was an easier call this week because he had the Bengals and they are so bad. But he gets the Dolphins in Week 17. What are you thinking about Jerome Ford?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I will still start him as a number two running back, but I will start him. I will rank him lower than I.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Did this week, but higher than DeAndre Swift.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Yes.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Five catches. Very nice for Jerome Ford as well.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

And that's, I think, a staple because DTR will throw it to him.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yes. He averages right around four catches per game in three games with Dorian Thompson, Robinson last year and David Najoku. 8 for 66 on 10 targets. It's basically he just throws into Joku and. And Drum four and it's kind of like what he did last year. All right. For the Bengals. They are the Bengals. We know exactly what to do with them. But I. Chase vs Sir Tan next week. I know I'm not gonna ask you if you start or sit or anything, but it's cool. It's cool to see the. The best receiver in football this year against the best cornerback. Right.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I wonder if he'll travel in the slot with him when Chase goes in there and. Or does they just stick him on.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Higgins when he's in the slot? You mean when Chase is in the slot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's. It's a good question. I thought about that. Based on history, you'll probably follow him in the slot sometimes. Carolina 36, Arizona 30.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Man, that's the game of the week, right? Broncos.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

No, Eagles, I think.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Oh, oh, oh, oh.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

I'm sorry. I thought you were calling Carolina, Arizona, the game of this current week.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

No, no, Broncos, Bengals.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Week 17, I think for last week, you had the Dolphins 49. This week you had the Dolphins 49. Your game of the week.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

I changed it. I changed it to latrine. Carolina 36. Jamie, you get that one? No, that's Robin Hood. Men in tights.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Oh, no, I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Changed it to latrine. Yeah, that. I can't say the rest of the word. It's a good change anyway. Kyler, what do you think? What am I supposed to make of Kyler and Marvin Harrison right now? I know. Again, Kyler, 22 points, but what on earth. And they got the Rams next week.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Marvin Harrison, too, like, back to back. Drops on one drive like he's. He's struggling. He's going to be an interesting one at rank next year because they don't do him a lot of favors with how they line him up. And. No, not. Not a lot of motion. And they don't give him some easy throws. Kyler misses easy throws. I. It's going to be a tough one. Like, you wonder if we were redrafting rookie drafts right now. Is he. Is he the fourth receiver.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Behind the.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Conky, behind McConkie, Thomas and neighbor?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, he's not gonna be higher than third for most people, but no, fourth would be.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Thomas is one.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

See, here's the thing about that, right? We talked about it on beyond the Box Score. There's a very simple comparison for Malik Neighbors and Brian Thomas Jr. Right? Like they were on the same team last year at lsu and Neighbors was much better.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

So Thomas was a baby, though. Like, he's just getting better.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

I still feel like Neighbors. I don't think you're wrong to take Thomas over him, but I don't think it's a certain. It's an easy call by any means. Who's.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Who's going to be throwing a Neighbors next year?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Cam Ward is going to be thrown to Neighbors.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Is that what you. You want word over Sanders?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Word over Sanders.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Do I. I don't know.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I don't think you're a homer.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Apparently, the Giants want Ward over Sanders based on some. Some early reports, but. Oh, nice Guy.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Yeah. You want to trust. You want to trust Joe Shane right now?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

It's not. Yeah. I don't know if it's gonna be up. Okay. Chuba with the big game feeling. That was a nice bounce back for Adam Thielen, guys.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Yep.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, it's. This is a weird show. I'm not gonna lie. This is a weird show. We can't sit here and talk about rest of season value and stuff like that, and I don't want to just do a starter sit episode. So it's been great.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

You're doing a nice job.

[New Balance Representative]

I'm gonna ask you this.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

We're gonna change it up a little bit. Washington 36, Philadelphia 33.

[New Balance Representative]

What surprise. I'm gonna ask you what surprised you about each game.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

What surprised you about this Commander's Eagles game?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

There's really not much you could say, I think, with the Eagles because they lose. Jalen Hurts early in that game. So I think it was, first of all, Marshawn Lattimore. What happened to him? I mean, AJ Brown was beating him all over the field, and he was just grabbing and pass interference on almost every play. It was terrible. A.J. brown's just a stud. Devonte Smith, huge drop. That was. That was bad. But, yeah, look, you come back next week, if Hurts plays, you're right back to the same guys. And if hers doesn't play, I think it's just A.J. brown. You can't start Devonte Smith.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

So I think what surprised me was probably a llama Desakill scoring 24 fantasy points.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

What surprised me was how. How bad Brian Robinson was. Let's. We got to talk about that. He scored one point. He had two fumbles. He's limping to the finish line as a fantasy.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Yeah. McNichols was in in the end quite a bit.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, it was bad for him.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

How much fun is Jane Dallas gonna be next year?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Oh, man, he's gonna be awesome. Just like CJ Stroud and Anthony Richardson. Just stop.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

All right, Next game, apologize for that one.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

You should have said, just like Daniel Jones.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Why?

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Remember how good he was, the rookie?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Not this good. All right. Atlanta 34, Giants 7. What surprised you in this game?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Panics was not great. Giants, Giants were great for the opposing defense. I. There's gonna be a fun one next week. I picked up the Colts in a bunch of leagues, you know, with the hope of advancing and, like, I'm gonna start them, but, yeah, you should. You know, they gave up 30 points to face.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

I mean, I was surprised that Drew Locke threw three touchdown Passes and Michael Phoenix through zero.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

It took me a second there. Well, what do you think about London and Mooney with Panics?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Yes. There we go.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Start of the week, baby. I think money is great.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, Mooney was good and yeah, look, Panics wasn't great, but I guess he was good enough.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Like, it's hard to critique. Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

They got one of the big games next week. They got Washington on Sunday night.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Huge, huge game.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

And are we going to be starting Darnell Mooney or like would you start Mooney or Malik? Neighbors.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Neighbors against the Colts. I probably still go back to neighbors.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

But yeah, neighbors for sure.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Neighbors has been awful. Other than garbage time.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

What are you talking about?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Other than garbage time?

[New Balance Representative]

Other than garbage time.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Okay. As he had like another 13 or 14 point game, didn't he?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Let's start wide receiver.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

That does not make you a must start wide receiver.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Sure it does.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

It's like it's feeling.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

But that's your bad week.

[New Balance Representative]

But that's his every week. Except for last week.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Also like he. I was expecting a huge game today against Falcons.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, right. I mean like every week is an amazing matchup and every week he scores 14 points. Great stuff, Malik.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

It's nice to know. It's nice to have a little bit of stability in your lineup.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah. Kyle Pitts threw an interception today. Basically. Las Vegas 19, Jacksonville 14.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

How did the Raiders win this game? It just makes me so mad to watch this happen. Like if I'm, if I'm Tom Brady, I would have called everybody and fired him right now.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

What's the difference? They gotta get Shadur at 2.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Then they're. Then they got lucky that the Giants made a stupid mistake or they're both.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Stupid because neither of these quarterbacks should be taken with a top two pick.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

I don't think the Raiders have the second pick right now.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Jacksonville.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Oh, okay. Jacksonville's not taking a quarterback.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

No, but see this is what, what actually smart by Jacksonville. They lose the game and then now they could force the Raiders to trade up.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah. Oh yeah. They totally took the Raiders there. All right, let's talk about the Raiders running backs. Two of the more popular waiver wire player plays here and you had Amir Abdullah, seven carries, 38 yards and a touchdown, five catches, 47 yards. Alexander Madison, 12 carries, 27 yards and a touchdown, four catches, 29 yards. It kind of felt to me like Abdullah started to take over the, you know, as the lead guy as the game went on because Madison was just so bad. I don't know if that's True. It's just as I was watching, it sort of felt that way. They are at New Orleans next week. Which running back would you prefer?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I'm gonna go back to what I said at the start of the week, which is what I should have stuck with, is that Abdul is better in PPR and Madison and none. Because, I mean, Abdul scoring touchdowns, he catches touchdowns. I think this is, you know, fluky to expect him to rush for scores when Madison's healthy. So non ppr. I'll start Madison, full ppr. I'll go back to Abdullah.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

I'll probably still have Madison just ahead of him. But they're both between RB25 and RB30 likely.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

What about half PBR Jamie, happy hour?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Anything where receptions count, I'll go.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

I what surprised you in this game, Adam? I forgot to ask you guys. I was surprised that Jacoby Myers had such a bad game. Two catches, 41 yards on five targets. That's disappointing.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

He struggled a little bit the last two weeks.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Well, last week was Ritter, though, right?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I mean, he was better with Ritter, but yeah, he struggled in the last two games.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, I was surprised that he struggled. Was not surprised that Brian Thomas Jr. Had a great game because he always has a great game.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

He's so good.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

But every time you think you can trust the Jaguars running back, you can't. So the ETN out carried by. By Tank Bigsby, even though Bigsby fumbled. All right. Minnesota 27, Seattle 24. Heath, what surprised you in this game?

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

DK Metcalf scored a touchdown. First time since week seven. I was surprised that until Ken Walker got hurt, Zach Charbonnet was basically just a. A bench player.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Like they went, yeah, people freaking out about the captain thing today.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

He was. They named Charbonnet a captain, sent him out for the coin toss, and then sent him to the bench until the third quarter. Yeah, it was. It was all Ken Walker. He had eight catches in this game.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Tied a career high. Someone's asking, is Ken Walker's injury serious? The only thing I can tell you is he limped off the field and then he was declared doubtful to return pretty quickly. So I don't. That's not a good sign. And we'll. Obviously, we'll see what happens there. So frustrating that it. It took a DK Metcalf injury for them to realize that they needed to get the ball to jsn. It's just. It's just crazy.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

You have this conversation in the office. Top 10 receivers in the NFL, not fantasy. And somebody suggested JSN, like, when we were like down to receiver eight. We were at receiver eight. Like he's come into that range. Like he's good. He's really good.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

And we had a debate in the office. JSN or Jordan Addison, who would you rather not in fantasy, Who'd rather have Jason.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Ah, dynasty. I had them coming into the week at wide receiver 13 and wide receiver 14. Addison one spot higher. I probably lean towards Addison, but they're both great.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

And anything else in this game, see? No, I don't think so.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Justin Jefferson Harmony will be a league winner again if he starts like Bears next week. My God.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Buffalo 24, New England 21. Jamie, what surprised you in this game?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Josh Allen sucked.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, a lot. Surprised us.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

You're. By the way, kudos to you. Ravens win the division. Lamar Jackson may have gotten the MVP today.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, well, and I. But I had switched to Alan. But now I'm back to. Now I'm back to Jackson.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I take back what.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. I had been. I had been on Jackson and then I switched off of him because he had played pretty poorly against the Steelers and the Eagles. And I was like, look, if you're going to play your worst football again, your toughest matchups, then you shouldn't win the MVP if it's close. But then he just went out and beat the Steelers. That's what he needed to do. He needed to beat the Steelers. Allen goes out and has a bad game. I'm back on Jackson now.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

What are the odds?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

We have updated MVP odds, I'm sure.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Yeah, they had, they had to win. They have to win a division though.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

They need the Chiefs to be the Steelers.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

No, they have to win it. You can't.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

They don't have to.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

No, you can't win.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Yeah, you can't win the mvp.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

What is this rule?

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

It's a rule.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

It's not a rule. You know people vote for this, right? It's not like, yeah, so I want your MVP.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

I want your MVP. I don't want.

[New Balance Representative]

I don't want the 75 year old stuffy sports writer who goes, well, you.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Have to win your division to win the mvp.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Call the guy by his name.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Okay? I have no idea. I'm not talking about anybody.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

So they do not currently where I'm looking. Mr. Popinsky says it's Allen at minus 600, Lamar at plus 425. I will tell you, I happened to stumble upon the NFL draft odds and Shador Sanders is minus 125 right now, so that's nothing. Maybe. Maybe he'll be a giant.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

God, I hope not.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Okay, Week four, Dion's complaining about the play calling. Week seven, Dion's the new head coach.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

The cool thing about it though is they'll keep Day Ball and Shane. If they draft Sanders, Giants will suck. And then Dion will be your coach in 2026.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

But that's. But then Arch Manning is going to be their quarterback.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

No.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

All right. Hunter Henry caught a touchdown. That was nice. He doesn't do that. That was at the very end of the game or close to it. And just we need a bounce back week for the. For the Bills offense next week other than James Cook. And finally, Miami 29, San Francisco 17. Heath, what surprised you in this game? Dolphins, Niners.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

I was surprised. I mean, there was lots of things. We've already talked about them though. How bad Patrick Taylor was, how good Debo Samuel was. But, you know, we haven't talked about this yet. And he scored a touchdown, so he kind of saved his day. I mean, Tyree Kill might have dropped 20 fantasy points in this game. Literally balls going between his hands over and over. Scott, three of seven targets for 29 yards. Woof.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Oh, yeah, he did have a touchdown that Chavez Ward tipped away at the last second, which was great play by him.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

He had another one between. Between his hands. He just didn't even see it.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Yeah, that was the, like the kind of deep route on the. Up the left sideline. That was one of the best throws I've seen Tua make in a long time. Because he doesn't. He doesn't do that. He doesn't throw deep. And he threw it pretty deep to Tyreek. It was gorgeous. Right in the end zone. And I definitely did not act appropriately in the office when he dropped that ball.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I'll give us a reenactment.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

No, that's okay. But it's fine.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Everybody got the bad words.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Everyone's doing that around. I just. I think I like, slammed my fist on the couch and I said a word that I shouldn't have said.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Heath, I'm gonna give you receivers. You tell me Tyreek or this receiver Next year.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Next year.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Thomas Jr. Tyreek Hill.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Thomas.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

I don't have any more names.

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That's a good game.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

What a game.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Who'd you say? I'm sorry.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Jackson, Smith, Najigba, Jason, Jerry, Judy. With a quarterback, Tyreek Hill. All right.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Okay. What'd you say?

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

He'll be 31.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

I'll be taking a lot of Tyreek Hill next year.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 1]

Oh, at the right price, of course.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

Late round two.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

Oh.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

No. Everything I say now is going to change. Like we're gonna do rankings next week.

[Fantasy Football Today Host]

That happens between Sunday night and Tuesday morning for the rankings. Like it could happen for next year's rankings.

[Fantasy Football Analyst 2]

So, yeah, what do you think I said? I mean, come on, spell it with the. Spell it. G, O O D by E. That's what I said. We'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football today. Thanks, everyone. Paramount Podcast.

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