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Heath
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Adam
What a play. Can you believe this? No, I can't.
Heath
It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
Adam
Off to the races and he stays on his feet. This is going to go the distance.
Heath
Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath.
Jamie
Okay.
Adam
Okay. What's up? Welcome, everybody. This is fantasy football today presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook. Born in Vegas, this is one of those head spinning days. And the fantasy landscape really may have changed quite a bit with some huge injuries. Very sorry to see. It really stinks. But James Connor and Najee Harris with serious injuries. CD Lamb leaving early in the game. It was that kind of day. Mike Evans also injured. So we will update you on everything. Terry McLaurin left with a quad injury. But you know what? We're gonna, we're gonna be happy. We're gonna have fun. We're gonna recap the Sunday action and Heath and I are gonna be watching Chief's Giants together in about 45 minutes or half hour.
Jamie
All right.
Adam
Your number one quarterback right now going into Sunday night football is Caleb Williams. Correct. Your number one running back is Jonathan Taylor. Correct. Correct. Your number one correct wide receiver is.
Dave
Oh, it's who we all knew it would be. Heath, go ahead.
Heath
Number one wide receiver.
Dave
Yeah, he's one of your winners for this week.
Heath
Oh, Trey Tucker.
Adam
Yeah, Trey Tucker.
Heath
I told somebody to sit him for. Probably Harold Fannin.
Adam
Someone asked you and your number one tight end.
Dave
It'S time to play the game.
Adam
I guess that's.
Dave
Hunter Henry.
Heath
Fun fact. Week one, I started Cooper cup over Hunter Henry and Henry outscored him by 18 points. Week two, I started Hunter Henry over Cooper cup and cup outscored him by 14 points. And week three, I started Cooper cup over Hunter Henry.
Adam
Yeah. No, I can't stand it.
Dave
Did you just do the world of solid and start Cooper cup over Hunter Henry every week? Or at least let us know who you start so we know to go with the other guy.
Jamie
Yeah.
Adam
No, I can't take it. I obviously Hunter Henry was on waivers a week one. I picked him up. I started in week two. I dropped him for week three. Okay. Anyway, biggest winner. Biggest loser. Who wants to be the winner? Guy wants to be the happy guy.
Heath
Dave.
Adam
Dave, who's the biggest winner coming out of week three?
Dave
I'm gonna do a two for one rookie running backs Quinshawn Judkins and Omarion Hampton. Hampton's is a little bittersweet because of the Najee injury, but it's fantasy football. We have to be real about these things. And thank goodness he's on the shelf because Omari and Hampton is going to dominate playing time, and we're going to see Hampton rock and roll. We saw him as a big factor in the passing game. His rushing average could be a little bit better. That offensive line could be a little bit better. But Omarion Hampton has arrived, and he's still got more meat on the bone. You can start him confidently as a number two fantasy run. But was I too excited?
Adam
A little.
Heath
Yes, Very much.
Adam
Yeah.
Dave
No one was rooting for Naji this year. Everybody was hoping.
Heath
Doesn't matter.
Dave
Everywhere that's got Hampton, they're excited with me. All the Naji fans, they're. They're not gonna.
Heath
I. I don't care about the Naji fans. The man, like, his career might be over. I'm sorry.
Dave
Oh, no, no. But I hope it's not over now. Now you're making me feel really bad if his career is over.
Adam
All right, so his career is not going to be over. Come on. He's. He's a young man. Tore. Probably tore his Achilles. The preliminary reports are that for Naji Harris and then of course, Quinton Judkins. I have a buy or sell about Quinton Judkins a little bit later, but he didn't light it up necessarily. Well, he scored a touchdown. 1894 and a touchdown. He was dominated. Just dominated. The running back touches, and he actually ran the most routes among Cleveland running backs. All right, so we'll got another one about him a little bit later. Heath. Negative Heath, who's the big loser?
Heath
So, like the. If I never send my names in first, so I don't ever have the biggest loser, but I'll. I'll take. I'll steal one from Dave and say Chase Brown. Oh, my gosh. Was that a miserable performance from the entire Bengals offense and defense? They were all terrible. I'm not sure anybody was worse than Chase Brown, who. At least he didn't lose his fumble. Might have a negative rush average by the end of next week because he just keeps going the wrong direction. They can't block. He can't make anybody miss the offense is terrible.
Dave
Skyline Chile is overrated.
Adam
Stop right there. Everything you said about Chase Brown, I mean, everyone's really worried. 10 carries for 3 yards, 4 catches for 17 yards. But you said the offense is terrible. And that has not been the case with Jake Browning. He's usually pretty good. Was this a one week blip or.
Heath
How concerned one week blip for Chase Brown?
Adam
No, no, but.
Heath
Because even when Joe Burrow was there, Chase Brown was terrible. His yards before contact is way down. His yards after contact is way down. His broken tackles are way down. He was a day three running back. One of the only ones, one of the only guys really profiled like, I'll admit it, DeAndre Swift, like Tony Pollard, like a lot of guys we were concerned about is like, are these the dead zone running backs that were really only drafting this high because they look like they're going to get all the work? And we didn't ask that question about Chase.
Adam
Oh, we did.
Heath
We just drafted him in round two.
Adam
I still think terrible. I. Well, I think it's very dependent on Burrow. He's got. I don't know. Did anybody get a carry other than him today? Because going into the game he got. He had every single. Single carry. Yeah. A P. Ryan got four rushing yards. He has. And going into the game, every single carry for the Bengals. And if you have that role on the Joe Burrow bangles, you would have been good.
Heath
Chase Brown or Tony Pollard rest of season?
Adam
Chase Brown.
Heath
I don't know why.
Adam
Because of Spears. But also barf for both of them. No, I don't disagree with this take at all. Dave. How about you? Chase Brown or Tony Pollard?
Dave
I mean, I want to say Chase Brown because I don't think the Bengals offense is this bad, but I mean, we know he had 13 PPR points. He had 13 PPR points. That was obviously a game with Burrow and we thought, okay, he can get better than that. Two games since combined is 14.5 PPR points.
Jamie
I.
Dave
He's.
Adam
He.
Heath
You know what though? It's okay.
Dave
A lot. I think he's still going to be decent. I just don't think he's going to come close to returning second round value. And if you trade him right now, you might not get 8th round value for him. So you're stuck.
Adam
Go ahead.
Heath
I. I overreacted. It's okay. He gets the Broncos next week and then the Lions and then the packers and then the Steelers. Yeah, it'd be fine.
Jamie
Good.
Adam
He's staying. He's in trouble. I'm sitting him. Yeah, he's. He's a. He's a stinker. Chase Brown. No.
Dave
So hold on a second. We're going to talk about some other running backs that have underwhelmed we should probably make note of those that we would try and trade for and maybe use as a stopgap until we feel more confident about Jace Brown. Oh, like Trey Benson, for example.
Adam
Oh, come on. Obviously I'd rather have Trey Benson rest of season. I think everyone would. I assume, like we weren't.
Heath
We don't have a diet.
Adam
I think so. So James Connor. Yeah. All right, so let's. That's what we're going to get into now. Let's get to the big news here. James Connor left in the third quarter. We don't know exactly what it is look like an ankle injury look bad. Trey Benson 80 rostered, obviously. Should Adam 10 carries, 42 yards. He's going to be a guy who gets most of his carry. Most of his yards on one carry. He makes big plays.
Heath
And Amari D. Mercado had a terrible drop in the game, so hopefully they won't use him quite as much.
Dave
Yeah, no, they're gonna though. He's. He was already their third down back as soon as got hurt.
Adam
So he was bad.
Dave
Yeah, they've been using him in that role for two years. He.
Adam
Trey Benson. I mean, what do we think? Kind of like a second round value going forward? Third round value.
Dave
Oh, third, third or fourth. And honestly, like, you're only going to get eighth round value and trade for Chase Brown. But I still might take him over Benson rest of season.
Adam
Tell you right now, I lost James Connor in our podcast league and you know, 14 team league. There's just no running backs. I don't really have a backup. I think I'm going to offer lad McConkey for Trey Benson if. If I find out Connor's out for the year.
Heath
So that is the one team of mine this year that's good. I might still have. No, I don't have. I don't have another extra running back. I'm sorry.
Adam
Yeah, no one does.
Heath
I mean, I, I do have Travis etn, Ken Walker and Quinton Judkins. Oh, but I don't have a fourth.
Adam
No. All right. But that's, that's kind of how I think like, Trey Benson's got a great opportunity here. Yeah.
Dave
You want to pull that one? Can we do that?
Adam
Yeah, let's do it. Thomas YouTube poll.
Dave
Chase Brown versus Trey Benson.
Adam
Oh, I thought we were gonna do that.
Heath
You know, it would be almost as sad as Trey Benson versus Chase Brown.
Adam
What?
Heath
Jerry Judy versus Marvin Harrison or. Or DeAndre Swift versus Alvin Camara.
Adam
The thing is, Dave, I know fantasy football audiences well enough by now and you do, too. If I Throw Chase Brown vs Trey Benson up, I'll do it on Twitter. It's going to be at least 80% Trey Benson.
Dave
Right. Because of recency bias.
Adam
But not just that. Like, there's Chase Brown sucks and, like, this is really bad. And I'll do it. I'll humor you. Okay. Other big news, Naji, we talked about that. So Omari and Hampton. All right, what are you thinking for Omari and Hampton? Now? Listen, they are a good team. They're a good team. They. He still didn't run the ball great. He made it. You know, he got the touchdown, but he also had six catches for 59 yards. But they were trailing in this game. They did win, but they got the Giants next week. They got Commander. Should be good then, you know, Miami. I guess my point is, if he's not doing this in the passing game, is this actually maybe the peak of Omarion Hampton's value, or do you think we got this opportunity? Let's just see it through and see what happens.
Dave
We're working under the assumption that Najee is not going to come back for this season. And I think Hampton, who had 88 of the workload of the snapshare, I should say, after the Naji injury, I think it's. I think he's taking off. This is it. And so we love what we saw as far as the catches go. And that'll be in games where the Chargers are competitive. And even in the games where they're leading, you could still see at least a couple of grabs for Hampton. And I think his rushing average will work out. And, you know, he's going to be in. In short yardage.
Adam
This is.
Dave
This is a big plus, huge opportunity.
Adam
Okay. CD Lamb thinks he'll be ready next week. That would be against the Green Bay Packers. So at least it seems like we've avoided. I'm not going to take him at his word, necessarily, but we've avoided a serious injury with CD Lamb.
Dave
It's better than a report that says that he's, you know, in a boot or something in the locker room.
Heath
Like, I was wishing he would put a boot on. Why is he walking around on the sideline? Like, start resting it now.
Adam
Do we have any updates on Mike Evans, as Chris Godwin should be back next week against the Eagles or Terry McLaurin is at Atlanta next week.
Heath
I thought Terry McLaurin scored in that play.
Adam
No, he definitely did not.
Heath
I thought he did.
Adam
I did it at first glance, but unless I'm crazy, you saw the replay. I thought he looked clearly down, but all right.
Heath
I mean the replays don't really tell us anything because it looks like on the replay the Eagles false start on every tush push, but they don't.
Adam
They did it again today, by the way. But do we have any updates Jon Evans or McLaurin?
Heath
Not that I have seen.
Adam
Okay, Carson Wentz is going to start next week. He faces the Steelers. All right, so we do have some more news and notes, but those are the big ones you need to know about. And football fans, you got to bring that playoff energy to your pro football bets all season long with this pro Football boost pack from BetMGM. It gives you three ways to boost your payout on a winning bet. Just log into your BetMGM account to receive your boost pack. Then place any pro football bet and apply one of the tokens. And make sure to bet up to the minimum stake odds and legs specified on the token. And if your boosted bet hits, you'll score a bigger payout. From opening kickoffs to game winning drives, this pro football boost pack is your ticket to unforgettable moments this season. So don't wait on the sidelines. Join the action. Bet mgm. Oh yeah. You know what, we'll take a little break here. No, let's do buy or sell. Buy or sell real quick here. Buy or sell. Quentin Johnston is the best Chargers wide receiver going forward.
Heath
So.
Dave
So.
Adam
Why? He's crushing them right now.
Heath
Keenan Allen's better.
Adam
Yeah, that's true. Actually, I don't know if. Do we have updated stats for them?
Jamie
Updates?
Adam
Probably, yeah.
Dave
What do you want to know?
Adam
Chargers. I got Quentin Johnston. No, that's not. It's only two stats. Give me the game. Give me the stats.
Jamie
I got it.
Dave
I've got all three games.
Adam
Give me the season long stats. Go ahead.
Dave
Keenan Allen Leads and targets 28 targets, 19 catches, 194 yards, three touchdowns, one in each game. He's been marvelous. Quentin Johnson, 24 targets, 14 catches, 239 yards. He also has three touchdowns. Did not score this week. Boohoo. 14.9 PPR points. Lad Monkey. Three games, 21 targets, 15 catches, 163 yards, zero touchdowns.
Adam
So rank them rest of season. You have to.
Heath
Vlad Keenan.
Dave
We're all hesitating.
Heath
We want to put McConnell, Keenan, Quinton.
Adam
Okay.
Dave
Yeah, yeah. I mean it's kind of what we're conditioned to say. It certainly looks like Lad is the best receiver of the three, but it's not by a big margin. Like they're all very Tight together. I think if you've got any one of the three, you've got a starter for your fantasy team.
Adam
All right, buy or sell. Quinshon Judkins is the best rookie running back going forward. Hi, Jamie.
Heath
That's a good one. It's a really good one.
Dave
So I'm gonna sell.
Heath
I'll tell if I get the field.
Adam
Yeah, that's fair. Jamie, why are you selling that quinch on Judkins is the best rookie running back going forward?
Jamie
Because Hampton is now in that spot. With the injury to Naji Harris, are.
Adam
We not even thinking Genti?
Jamie
Not at the moment.
Adam
What a bummer. All right, buy or sell? You should sell high on A.J. brown right now.
Heath
So sell.
Adam
You know why I'm saying it though, right? Because they were trailing big in this game. Finally it unleashed something. But they're so conservative when they. When they can be, which should be mostly.
Jamie
He looks awesome. I will say this, though. If Lane Johnson is out, their offense could be a little bit tough to trust from a run perspective to the same degree.
Heath
Saquon hit the wall. No good anymore.
Adam
All right, so. All right, so we'll just stick it out with. With A.J. brown against Tampa Bay next week. Hopefully a shootout there. Yes, he did look. He looked insanely good. So at least we can think he's not injured in any way, right? Buy or sell? Sell high on. I put the Bears here, but I think it would really be Caleb Williams and Romo Dunze. You should sell high on Caleb Williams and Romo Dun.
Heath
So.
Jamie
I would sell Caleb. I would be selling Odunze for something awesome only.
Dave
Agreed.
Heath
I think Caleb might be a top five fantasy quarterback.
Adam
And this was a little bit confusing the way I did it. I'm sorry. Yes. When we say sell, when I say you should sell AJ Brown and they say sell, it means you should not sell A.J.
Jamie
Brown.
Adam
And when I say you should sell Caleb Williams and Roma Dunesday and they say sell, it means you should not sell them. So I probably almost think that Heath.
Dave
Could come up with some sort of version of this that could help us separate. With all the buys and sells that you have, I just.
Adam
I don't know what we'd call it, but we'll think of something. We'll take a break and we'll come back and give you some winners and losers early. Look at the waiver wire and much more after this. On fantasy football today, whether your team just crushed it or fell short, keep the adrenaline going with Chumba Casino, the online social casino built for fans who Love non stop action. Play exciting games like slots, blackjack and live casino. Anytime anywhere. No downloads needed. Sign up now to unlock your free welcome bonus and enjoy daily login rewards. Chumba Casino because when the buzzer sounds the funds just getting started. No purchase necessary. VGW group void where prohibited by law 21/TNCs apply. Would you sell your soul for greatness? What would you be willing to sacrifice? Find out on September 19th in the new Jordan Peele produced horror film him only in theaters starring Marlon Wayans in a role of a lifetime as the greatest football player of all time, AKA the goat. Tyreek Withers also stars as his up and coming protege. Directed by Justin Tipping and produced by Monkey Paw Productions. Never meet your idols. Him hits theaters September 19th. Okay, Twitter poll. Who would you rather have rest of season, Trey Benson or Chase Brown? PPR 70% for Benson, 30% for Chase Brown. Jamie, since you're just joining us, before we get into the rest of the news and notes, give me your thoughts on huge day in fantasy. Unfortunately, with these injuries, Trey Benson and Omarion Hampton with big opportunities.
Jamie
Hampton looked great, you know, took advantage of the situation and hopefully the sign of things to come. I love that they were throwing in the ball and hopefully that continues. Benson is going to be the one that I think is a. Is a wild card here just because how much Will they just put all of it on his plate or will they put all of his plate? But clearly big opportunity and should be rostering every league.
Adam
Would you rather have what round? If we were drafting today, like what round do you think? Oh, are you there, Jamie? What round would you think? Trey Benson. That's okay, like a round three, four kind of player. What do you think for Benson?
Jamie
I'm sorry, round four the earliest.
Adam
Under the assumption Connor's out for the year. You're saying round four at the earliest?
Jamie
Yeah, I mean we were drafting Connor in that range at the earliest and I don't think Benson is as polished a player as James Connor. That that's probably an obvious statement. And so again, will they give it all to him? You know, D. Mercado had a bad drop in the game, you know, so we'll see if he's the third down back. You know, who knows what they're going to do to try and enhance their backfill because they're not going with just the current group of guys that they have there. So I mean I hope it's Benson, you know, the great opportunity for him.
Adam
All right, back to the rest of the news and Notes here. Travis Etn had a touchdown today, but it was. I think we should not count it in fantasy because they let him score and this time I'm sure of it. Yeah, Nico Collins, you know, Nico Collins ended up with a pretty big day. It was pretty lucky. Busted coverage, 50 yard touchdown.
Heath
So many guys that we liked that were terrible. Let's not poo poo the guys that were good.
Adam
I think it's important though to note.
Jamie
That it wasn't stinks.
Adam
Yeah, that offense stinks. I mean, there goes worse.
Heath
CJ Stroud or Trevor Lawrence?
Adam
Lawrence. He's horrible.
Jamie
I think Lawrence thinks more because Stroud has less help at the moment. Like the offensive line is such a disaster. The run game is such a disaster. I think if they're both in ideal situation, Stroud would be better.
Dave
If Stroud were on Jacksonville right now, would he be better than Trevor Lawrence?
Adam
Yes, I think so.
Jamie
I think you have to say yes.
Adam
Alec Pierce left with a concussion. Diami Brown, Jacksonville left with a shoulder injury. Tight end news Colston Loveland left with a hip injury in the first half. Only one target in this game for Cole Comet. Michael Mayer left in the first quarter. Jatavian Sanders left in the second half with an ankle injury. Big offensive line news would be Lane Johnson. As Jamie mentioned, the Eagles right tackle. I remember a few years ago he missed. I feel like he missed a few games and they did struggle a little bit. Green Bay offensive tackle. Green Bay lost two offensive linemen. Zach Tom, who came into the game banged up, and Aaron Banks, a tackle and a guard. Oh, yeah, they haven't been pretty banged up. They. Well, they'll, they'll throw up 40 next week at Dallas. Cleveland offensive tackle Dejuan Jones left in the first half. Chargers guard Mikai Bechton left with a concussion and Bengals guard Dalton Risner left in the second half. On defense, we did have some big, big time injuries here. Sauce Gardner, head injury, Derek Stingley, injured ribs. Trayvon Diggs left with an injury. Washington starting safety Will Harris broke his leg. Minnesota defensive tackle Javon Hargrave left with an injury. Nick Bosa, that might be the biggest one. Sorry for burying the lead there, but Nick Bosa left in the first half for the 49ers. They're getting Jacksonville next week and they only gave up 13 points. Was it 16? 13 was the final there. And Tampa Bay defensive back Christian is. Ian left with a quad injury. Jamie, have you started working on the waiver wire notes yet?
Jamie
I have. I don't have in front of me though. Unfortunately. Sorry.
Adam
Any names?
Jamie
A lot of quarterbacks. A lot of quarterbacks.
Adam
What do we got?
Jamie
Well, the running backs nuts. There's not a lot of great options. I'm trying to remember who ties a Spears is definitely on the list. Jeremy McNichol's on the list. Ali Gordon's on the list. It's not a great list of, of running backs there receivers. I would still look at Christian Kirk. I know he didn't have a great game, but he had eight targets. Obviously. Trey Tucker, he's going to be the, the headliner. You know, we'll see how he, how he comes out once I, I do my rankings. I don't know how everybody else will feel about it, but you know, this is a receiving core that feels like it's a little bit of flux right now and the way that Geno Smith is throwing the ball. But the quarterbacks really are the ones that I think you're looking at again, you know, just based on how the position is. Un Geno Smith with a great matchup this week. My God, going into week four, coming off the game that he just had Mariota again, if he starts Carson Wentz against the Steelers. If he's well, he's gonna start. And then the tight ends. You know, you mentioned the Loveland injury. Comet has a good matchup going into next week. We'll see how he does. I don't have everything in front of me, though. I'm sorry.
Adam
Yeah, that's okay. That's okay.
Jamie
But you know what we will do when we do express on Monday? We will have it all then.
Adam
We sure will. Winners and losers. Okay. Dave already went through his winners. Quinchon Judkins and Omarion Hampton. Jamie's got two Vikings. What a. What a day for the Minnesota Vikings. The Minnesota Vikings, Jordan Mason and T.J. hawkinson. Mason with 16 carries, 116 yards and two touchdowns. Hawkinson, five catches, 49 yards and a touchdown on six targets. And they barely threw in this game. So how much confidence do you have in them? Jamie going forward at Pittsburgh, at Cleveland and then a buy a lot of.
Jamie
Confidence against Pittsburgh, you know, based on how he played today and getting Darasol back was huge. So I wonder if it's a game where maybe more competitive. Does he have an opportunity to catch the ball at all? Carson Wentz only threw the ball 20 times today, so. But this was what you hope for. You know, every time he gets going back to now, the last seven games, 14 or more touches, he's been over 15 PPR points or average more than 15 PPR points per game. So this was, this was as as good as it gets for a guy that didn't, you know, have any work in the passing game.
Adam
Yeah, that's Mason. Now Hawkinson, they're going to get, get Addison back next week. So what are we thinking in regards to that?
Jamie
Well, again, this is Carson Wentz. This is what he does. He throws to his tight ends. He threw two touchdowns to his head in today, you know, so this is the kind of quarterback that he is. And as long as he's going to start, I think Hawkinson remains in play. So I think he can average six targets per game. I think he can catch five passes a game. I think he can get 49 or more yards a game. Will he score, you know, if this is his first touchdown in the regular season since 2023. He had a touchdown in the playoffs last year.
Adam
That's right.
Jamie
You know, didn't score it all in the regular season last year coming back from the ACL tear. But, you know, based on the, the tight end play at this point, like, there's been a lot of up and down performances at the position, you know, I don't know how many people will value him more or less. And again, I haven't, you know, done complete rankings yet. Started to do the early tight end rankings, but like Hunter Henry versus TJ Hawkinson at this point, you know, two, two pretty solid games for Henry, one solid game for Hawkinson, but the first with his quarterback, you know, it's just encouraging to see that he performed this level.
Adam
Last question. We'll move on. And for all of you guys, do you think Carson Wentz can permanently take this job, you know, for the rest of this year from J.J. mcCarthy? Or do you think when McCarthy's healthy, he will, with basically without question, be the starter?
Jamie
I asked Pete Prisco this watching the game, and he said pretty adamantly no, that when McCarthy is healthy, he's back as the starter. I would think that if he goes undefeated, Wentz, that they will push McCarthy's injury down the line as long as they can. And then if Wentz turns into wentz, they throw McCarthy back in there when he's 100 healthy.
Adam
All right, Heath, your winners are. Hold on. Your winners are Pitman and Trey Tucker. Second time in Trey Tucker's career he's had consecutive games with a target per out run rate of 18 or higher. And he scored 40 points today with eight catches, 145 yards, three touchdowns on nine targets. But let's start with Pitman 6 for 73 and a touchdown on six targets, I think.
Heath
And that doesn't sound that impressive except they threw 25 times and they threw for 228 yards.
Adam
Right. I was going to say, I think you might have the wrong Colts as one of your winners.
Heath
Jonathan Taylor, I thought maybe.
Adam
I know he didn't.
Heath
Well, he was already a must start running back.
Jamie
I didn't like.
Adam
No, I thought you maybe didn't score that many fantasy points. I thought maybe you were going to come around on Daniel Jones.
Heath
No, I mean, he had 17 fantasy points. It's a fantasy football show.
Adam
Okay. Okay. Pitman.
Heath
Yeah, Pitman. Like week one he was clearly the top target over Josh Downs. Week two, it was Josh Downs. Week three, it was Pitman again. And I think you feel a little bit better about him being the number one option in this past offense. And he has clearly has a great connection with Daniel Jones who is playing much better than I expected and you should call him Indiana Jones.
Adam
I, I'm sorry if you just said this, but Michael Pittman, please tell me you didn't say this. Should have had a touchdown in all three games. Did you say that?
Jamie
No. Okay.
Adam
Ran a crossing route, got open. Throw was maybe a little bit low, but he almost had a touchdown last week. Okay, and then Trey Tucker. Are we really gonna buy into this?
Heath
Well, I think it's interesting because, like, there's something positive to take from all three of Trey Tucker's games. Week one, he only had three targets, but he had the long touchdown, had two catches for 54 yards. Word, 13 fantasy points. Last week against the Chargers, he had eight targets. He just didn't have a good game. And this was the first game where he had a lot of targets and he had a good game. At the very least, he's going to be one of the top ads off the waiver wire because you can't leave a guy that goes 8 for 145 and three touchdowns on the waiver wire. So that's a big winner to go from somebody we were all ignoring to somebody that everybody's not. Maybe not everybody, but a lot of.
Jamie
People are adding and he gets the Bears.
Adam
True.
Dave
Yeah. That's the biggest reason.
Jamie
I, I wonder if we have a Brock Bowers problem because of Jacoby Myers and now Trey Tucker and, and Geno Smith. Not, not saying, oh, there's that guy. Let me throw to him.
Heath
No, it, like, I, I wonder how healthy Brock Bowers is. They said today on the broadcast he's still wearing the brace Yeah, I just don't know. I mean the first three quarters of the season he had a 30 target share and then he's basically, basically been an afterthought the last two weeks.
Adam
All right, let's go to our losers here.
Jamie
Well, I, I guess we could talk about when we get to the game but like you have. Let's say you picked up Juwan Johnson when you saw Brock Bowers was injured. Who are you starting next week?
Adam
I'm still towers against the without question.
Jamie
Because it's the Bears. But if it wasn't the Bears.
Adam
No, I take Bowers. Hey, we're not there yet, right?
Jamie
I'm not saying it's for anybody. It's for the guy that's been fantastic through three games.
Adam
Johnson wasn't so great today, was he? What do you have, like 10 points? Am I wrong?
Dave
I think it was at 11.
Heath
I think he still had 6 for 51.
Adam
6 for 51? Yeah, right.
Dave
A big catch kind of helped him out late.
Adam
All right, let's go to the losers here. Jerry Judy and Jacori Crosby Merritt are the losers for heath Judy with one catch for 17 yards on five targets. And Bill had eight carries, 26 yards and a touchdown and one catch against the Raiders. Why are they losers?
Heath
Jerry Judy? Because he's terrible. He did have a pass interference in the end zone but he also dropped it. The Browns have four players right now with a 15.5 target share or higher and zero players with a 19 target share. Joe Flacco is spreading the ball around like crazy and it's difficult to guess on a week to week basis which one it's going to be and it stinks. And Jerry Judy's playing terribly.
Adam
Yeah, I was gonna say. Is he dropped?
Heath
He might get dropped in some 12 team leagues.
Adam
Would you pick him up if he got dropped?
Heath
And then he'll probably go have eight catches for 140 yards and two touchdowns because that's what Jerry Judy has done in the past.
Adam
Which if you saw him on waivers, would he be an automatic ad for you?
Heath
It would depend on my roster. Not automatic.
Adam
Okay.
Heath
Like not like blind. And then like Bill comes out and is on the bench to start the game and it's Chris Rodriguez and then Jeremy McNichols has a huge run for a touchdown, by the way.
Adam
Yeah, go ahead.
Heath
Bill is not the clear starting running back for the Washington matters.
Dave
He's not yet. He hasn't been the starter at any point so far this season. I don't know how many first quarter snaps he's even played and he wasn't particularly good today. He wasn't 3.3 yards per carry, got saved by the touchdowns. He had a catch that's kind of good for him. I guess he was their least efficient rusher. It was kind of an accident.
Heath
And Debo was back in the running game with three carries for 18 yards.
Jamie
How injured in McLaren?
Adam
We don't know. We haven't seen anything. All right, so stay patient with Bill Crosby. Merritt, he started in 49 of leagues. Jerry Judy was only started in 25 of these. I mean the one thing we this was the packers, right? The last two games he gave you between 9.1 and 11.6 PPR fantasy points, which stinks, but it doesn't necessarily bury you this game. 2.7 fantasy points buries you. But you know, it was the Packers. They are amazing. Did you guys know the Browns won the game?
Heath
We have like three blocked field goals in a 12 minute span or something.
Jamie
Yeah, it was five for the day.
Adam
All right, Jamie, your losers are Jordan Love. You're you picked two guys who are going to be the, the conference players of the week next week. Jordan Love gets the Cowboys and Ashton, I'm just kidding. Ashton Genti gets the Bears. But you're right, they were losers today. 13 points for love and 6.6.3 fantasy points for Genti. 17 carries, no catches.
Jamie
Love was just under duress the entire day. His offensive line was not doing many favors. So the only thing that's a little concerning is he hasn't been great fantasy wise the first two weeks of the season and he's just, he's dealing with a lot of injuries right now. I mean, you know, Jaden Reed's out and Tucker Kraft. You know, you mentioned Heath about Brock Bowers, like how healthy is he? How healthy was Tucker Craft today? So a little worried. And the one thing that we haven't seen as we were hoping for is he's still not running. You know, he's still not giving you that extra boost that we thought might happen because he was healthy. Remember last year, the knee injury, the groin injury and maybe that was the reason why he's not running. So I'd like to see him use his legs a little bit more. I thought that might have been the case today just to, you know, move him around in the pocket a little bit. But yes, there's plenty of bounce back potential next week against Dallas and in the case of Genti, like we have a problem here, like this is just bad at this point, you know, and the more that they talk about it, the less that it seems like they're trying to fix it. Because all those zeros. If you're watching on our YouTube channel, the fact that he's not involved in the passing game is extremely, extremely problematic because he has that in his game. They have to find a way to get him some easy touches and easy getting in the ball in space. Like, it's just trying to have him run behind that offensive line. As bad as it is, it's just not working right now.
Adam
Okay, so you're taking Hampton over Genti rest of season.
Jamie
Going into week four.
Heath
Yeah.
Adam
Taking Judson Judkins over Genti going into week four.
Jamie
Yes.
Heath
I'll wait until I see Genti. They get the Bears next week, you said. Yeah, I'll wait until I see Genti against the Bears.
Dave
Jobu week for Genty.
Jamie
By the way, YouTube poll, I'm not sitting Genti. No, don't make that mistake. But like, rest of season, the way these other two guys look and situations right now, like, all right, YouTube poll.
Adam
Who would you rather have if James Connor's out for the season, Trey Benson or Lad McConkey? 740 votes. Two thirds of them are saying Trey Benson.
Dave
Wow.
Adam
But on my Twitter poll, it's like basic. It's not. It's. McConkey is winning. All right. And Dave's losers. Yeah. All right, first of all, I want to say something because I keep forgetting and it's 35 minutes into the show. The Patriots running backs fumbled three times this week. That's the other thing that might change the fantasy football landscape. We will talk about that soon. Travion Henderson got nine carries after Antonio Gibson's fumble. So Ramon Dre fumbled twice, Gibson fumbled once, and then Treveon Henderson came in, played a lot and sucked. But that's another thing that could change things in the fantasy landscape. And another thing would be if Brian Thomas Jr. Ever did anything. But Derek Stingley got hurt in the first half, if not the first quarter of this game. And Brian Thomas Jr. Did nothing until a late, long catch and he had two catches for 55 yards. He's a loser for Dave and Chase Brown we already talked about. But Brian Thomas Jr. What on earth is going on here?
Dave
It's a lack of connection with Trevor Lawrence. It's an injury that might keep him from going all out play after play. It's a Jacksonville offense that is okay running the ball, but they just. They haven't been able to get it going throwing the ball. And we can no longer look at BTJ and say, all right, this is somebody who is a slam dunk, must start, top 15 overall pick type of player. The numbers stink. I don't even know if we'd take him in round three at this point. We probably wouldn't. And it's not all on him entirely. It's hard when you're playing hurt. I don't want to question his effort. We kind of did that after last week. But the Lawrence is a problem. Other pass catchers in this offense aren't that big of a problem. Diamond Brown got hurt. He still didn't do a ton, still only had six targets. I, I, you've got to be worried after three weeks with btj.
Jamie
So there's some things going on there with him apparently that, you know, seem to be an issue that maybe we'll find out about. I think you see, Parker Washington is somebody that they really like. 11 targets for him today. So he's getting a lot more attention, I think, than a lot of people expected the, the concern would be is that not only whatever's going on with Thomas is that Trevor Lawrence and Thomas are not on the same page. And he, I don't want to say he's, he's somebody you have to bench at this point because you know what the upside is and you know that at some point there's going to be a stretch of games where he gets hot. But if your team is very good at wide receiver, like you're not benching for Trey Tucker for example, but if your team is really good at receivers, so you got Ricky Piersoll and Tedron McMillan and some of these guys that have had good weeks and now maybe a Buko with a Mike Evans injury, like all these guys are drafted after Brian Thomas. You're probably mentioning Brian Thomas.
Dave
I mean, he doesn't have a double digit PPR point game yet this year.
Adam
You could, you could bench him for all three Chargers.
Jamie
Receivers you can bench for all three Chargers.
Adam
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Jamie
And Kyle Manon Guy should never play inside the 10 yard line because he ran backwards.
Adam
Yeah, Ramondre Stevenson almost touched downs. Ramandre Stevenson fumbled going into the end zone and then he's basically benched after that. But he did come back during their most important drive of the game. He Came back for their last drive. So that should tell you something.
Dave
It's very telling.
Adam
Kyren Williams had a touchdown call back on a holding penalty. Jerry Judy, I said kind of nearly had a touchdown. He talked about that. It was like pass interference, but he still dropped it. Terry McLaurin came up a yard short of a 57 yard touchdown. Then Jakory Crosby. Merritt scored. Two plays later, Marvin Harrison had a bad game. He almost had a huge game. He was wide open for a ball that would have been a chunk play and he dropped it. Then he dropped the ball in the end zone. But that one was. The first one was the. Like, how can you drop that? The second one was a tough one. Marvin Bo Nix almost had a huge game. He had two deep balls to Marvin Mims that were incomplete. One of them and one to Sutton. Yeah, he's not throwing deep balls. Well, big one to Sutton at the end there. And then there was a pass to J.K. dobbins that was technically behind. It was a lateral, so it was a run. It was a 19 yard touchdown for Dobbins. That was almost the pass. So Ponix was flirting with a big game.
Jamie
The. The throw to Sutton. We have DirecTV at the office. It froze while the ball in midair.
Adam
That's fun. It's a fun game to play. If you like, pause the game. I used to do this with. With like free throws or three pointers. I'd pause and be like, what do we think? You make it or miss it? Just kind of tell by the trajectory. Great game.
Heath
Punch you. So really fun.
Adam
Everyone's got to be on board with, though. All right, he's. Here we go. Carolina 30, Atlanta 0. This was a weird. What a wacky football day. 30 nothing. Panthers over Falcons.
Heath
Drake London has a Michael Pennix problem.
Jamie
Believe it.
Adam
And go on.
Jamie
I think the Falcons have a Michael Pennix problem.
Adam
Yeah. 172 yards, no touchdowns, two picks. Second one. Not necessarily his fault.
Jamie
Oh, they were awful throws.
Adam
Well, his receiver fell down though, on the second one. He shouldn't have thrown it anyway, but his receiver fell down. But controversy. What'd you say?
Heath
Quarterback controversy.
Jamie
You know who?
Adam
Not yet, but you want a bold prediction? Kirk Cousins is going to be the Bengals quarterback in the next three.
Heath
The Falcons can't trade Kirk Cousins. They might need to start him in two weeks.
Adam
All right, well, anyway, talk more about this Drake London Michael Penix problem and how you value Drake London.
Heath
I. I've started on my rankings for next week and I think he was like wide receiver. 17 he has averaging nine targets per game and he's averaging about 54 yards per game. London Pinnocks cannot get them into the end zone through the year, and he's not getting the 15 targets per game with Mooney and Pittsburgh both there.
Adam
Let me, Let me. Here you go. Ready? Drake London vs Ashton Genti Omari and Hampton and Trey Benson. Where would you rank?
Heath
London Second.
Jamie
Second.
Dave
Hampton first.
Heath
Second. But he's moving down, like, at about the same rate. A little bit slower than Genti is, but not a lot.
Adam
London or Brian Thomas.
Dave
What do you do with Drake London? I'm sorry to interrupt. If he has a bad game next week against Washington, which just allowed three touchdowns to T.R. tucker. Different type of receiver, obviously, but Falcons go into their buy after that game. One more sinker from Drake London and.
Heath
You'Re probably relieved that you don't have to start him.
Dave
Yeah, for one week.
Jamie
And then I would be buying low. And the Niners, I'd be buying low on him if he can, because if Cousins does start, that's a big boost.
Adam
I still think there's so many targets there, you know, you could think about just buying low on him now. I don't know. Would you trade Quentin Johnson for Drake London?
Jamie
Yes.
Dave
Yeah.
Jamie
Yeah.
Adam
Okay.
Jamie
Oh, Giants have a kicker issue.
Dave
Would you trade Keenan Allen for Drake London?
Jamie
Yep.
Adam
What do you mean?
Dave
But that one made me pause for a second.
Adam
Okay, so to the Panthers then. Nothing much to say here. I mean, they only threw 24 passes. Bryce Young only through 24 passes. So I think business as usual for them. Start. Hubbard, start. Are we worried about Hubbard here? No, he's fine.
Jamie
He hasn't been great. He's gotten. You've gotten saved by some touchdowns. And so the nice thing is, is that he's, I think, a very solid number two running back. But I don't think there's right now, especially with the offensive line injuries, I don't think there's the upside to crack the top 12.
Adam
All right, guys, let's go to our next game.
Dave
He was a half yard away from a touchdown. He had a catch that he was down just before the goal line, and then Rico Dowdle came in and stole the touchdown.
Adam
Cleveland 13 and Green Bay 10.
Heath
Matthew golden is ascending and will be the best packers wide receiver rest of season.
Dave
I believe it, but I don't think it means that he's going to be amazing for fantasy on a consistent basis.
Jamie
I believe both of those statements.
Adam
Well, okay, but do you believe. Do you agree with what Dave said, that he won't be amazing for. Is that what you were saying? You agree with Dave?
Jamie
Yes, I agree with both. I think that golden will be the best receiver, but I don't think he's going to be a startable fantasy receiver on a week to week basis or.
Dave
A boom bus flex type. He might be right.
Adam
Okay. He had a big catch in this game. Saved his bacon a little bit.
Jamie
It was good to see him get going a little bit. Especially in a game where tough defense and Love was struggling.
Heath
But Brown's defense is so good.
Adam
Yeah, yeah, man.
Heath
I know. The packers defense is amazing but the Browns are so good.
Jamie
There's two teams that might be missing a third, but the Texans and the Browns defenses are getting wasted.
Adam
Yeah. Texas are owing 3. The Texans are oh and 3.
Jamie
I can't believe we went through their schedule. Like you can see a path where they maybe win five games.
Adam
Hey man. All right, let's go.
Dave
By the way, the book on Jordan Love is when he's pressured, he falls apart. It's like most quarterbacks. I say this every time and that's what the Browns did today. Cowboys aren't going to be able to do that to him next week. You're starting Jordan Love next week.
Adam
Josh Jacobs, you know we talked about it on the, on the pre game show this morning that he's getting hit one target coming into the game. I think hit nine in this game. But he is struggling. This was a tough matchup for him. He's just one of those guys that you put in your lineup and the touchdown should come. Hopefully the rushing average will get better. Two great defenses today. I think it was just reflected in, in the, in the outcome and the, and the fantasy production and Cedric Tillman better than Jerry Judy. That's six of the last seven. He's 46% roster. Do you think it's a good roster percentage for Cedric Tillman or you think that Porridge is too hot, too cold or just right?
Heath
What did Cedric Tillman have today?
Adam
Like four or five points?
Jamie
PR points. I mean if he stepped on the field, he was basically better than Jerry Judy.
Adam
He did.
Heath
They were both terrible. Like Cedric Tillman was awful today.
Jamie
You can, you can make an argument that all four Browns pass catchers can be dropped. Yeah, I wouldn't do it, but you can make an argument for it easier.
Heath
To do it with the wide receivers, obviously.
Jamie
Well, I mean Fanon is droppable. I don't, I don't want to do it, but he's droppable.
Dave
Yeah. He might be the one Guy I want to hang on to long term.
Jamie
There's definitely a lot of upside there, but, I mean, we're talking about. What do you have, seven for 40 or 52 in the first week.
Dave
Yeah.
Adam
Yeah. All right.
Jamie
And Flacco's throwing how many touchdowns on the season so far?
Adam
1. I don't even know.
Heath
I just don't think I'm gonna drop a rookie tight end that had that many targets the first two weeks. Oh, I'm not a bad game against the Packers.
Adam
Two touchdowns. All right, let's go on. Let's move to our next game.
Dave
We got two touchdowns for Flacco this.
Jamie
Year, but you're still talking about a guy that's not rostered in more than 60 of leagues at this point. Like, people are going to see what Hunter Henry's doing and. And, you know, these tight ends, and they're going to pivot. I get it.
Adam
All right, let's go. Cincinnati at Minnesota. What do we got? Cincinnati with a. Minnesota with a 48. 10 win.
Heath
You should buy low on both Bengals wide receivers. It won't be this bad.
Jamie
Believe it. Believe it.
Heath
But maybe wait one more week because they play the Broncos next week.
Adam
I really think we need to talk about, like, Chase. Yeah, but Higgins, he just. They don't. Browning and him just don't do it when. When Chase is on the field, you guys.
Dave
I mean, he had a long touchdown last week.
Adam
Yeah, but it doesn't get the targets, though. All right. I won't. I won't dispute it.
Jamie
There's a definite concern, obviously, when you see what just happened to them, you know, like, you can't. You can't get away from it. What the Chiefs do. Heath.
Heath
Oh, yeah. For Giants went forward on fourth down. Chris Jones bats down a Russell Wilson pass.
Jamie
Nice. I don't think you're. You can't sell T. Higgins right now because you're not getting fair value in return. You shouldn't be starting him right now because we're playing the Broncos next week.
Adam
All right.
Dave
You know, the schedule does not get easier for them even after next week. They've got, like, one of the toughest. They've got Green, Detroit and Green Bay.
Jamie
After Denver, Detroit doesn't worry me.
Dave
Yeah, Detroit feels like a trip to Aruba at this point, but it's. This whole team's going to Cabo anyway by the time you get to December.
Adam
Jacksonville 17, Houston 10.
Heath
Travis Hunter is droppable.
Dave
Redraft.
Adam
Yeah.
Jamie
Believe it.
Heath
I just can't believe that you've got Brian Thomas Jr. And Travis Hunter on the team and you throw the ball 11 times to Parker Washington for 34 yards.
Jamie
He's the only one that's trying to catch the ball at this point.
Dave
I mean 35 of 66 offensive snaps for Travis Hunter today.
Jamie
Forget about fantasy. They need to make a decision and play him on one side of the ball. This is not working.
Adam
Oh, that. You cannot do that three games into his career. That would almost be a betrayal of him for. To him because they. That's. They drafted him under the pretense that he was going to play both sides of the ball. I think it's a little early to give up.
Heath
Sure looks like they needed more on offense than defense right now.
Dave
Absolutely.
Adam
All right, let's. Let's do this because I kind of skipped over Justin Jefferson from last game and Jefferson's had an okay start to the fantasy season but not setting the world on fire. He had five for 75 on seven targets today. So let's go through the first and second round wide receivers and how. How we're feeling about them. So hold on, let me pull up ADP so I don't miss any.
Dave
But obviously breaking out the worryometer for top 24.
Adam
Yeah. You want to do worryometer? We can do that. Worryometer. 0 to 10. 10 is. I'm freaking out. 0 is. He's the best. Jamar Chase.
Dave
0.
Jamie
10 from where I thought 0 from where I'm starting or sitting.
Adam
Yeah. But it's not. It's not about starter set I think because let's sort of incorporate rest of season value. So. All right.
Jamie
Rest of season value.
Adam
Round round. So you tell me instead of worryometer let's do. Is he around one pick, around two pick, around three pick or later. Jamar Chase.
Dave
Late round one.
Adam
CD Lamb when he's healthy. Round one, maybe the number one wide receiver. Yes.
Dave
The 101.
Adam
Justin Jefferson.
Jamie
Round two, round two, round one. I want to see another game with Carson Wentz with a competitive.
Heath
I'm really curious what they're. That should be my Believe it or not is like and this was a. We didn't find anything out in this game but they were so run heavy the first two weeks and then of course they're run heavy in this game because their defense scores two touchdowns.
Adam
Malik Neighbors. He's playing right now but we feel good about him. I'm on Rose St. Brown.
Jamie
First rounder.
Adam
First rounder. Jamie went back to the worryometer. Nico Collins still a first rounder.
Heath
Yep.
Jamie
Or second rounder at the turn.
Adam
Yeah. I can't put him in the first round. He just. That offense there's not.
Heath
So we're just going to draft like three wide receivers.
Adam
Puka has to be at this point.
Jamie
Me the first rounder.
Adam
Brian Thomas Jr. 10 Round four, round 10, round four for Heath. All right.
Dave
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Adam
Drake London three.
Dave
He's in that round three, four range too.
Adam
AJ Brown. Oh, sorry, sorry. Go ahead, Jamie. Drake London.
Jamie
I. I'm not going to be surprised. There's quarterback change and things just turn around from quickly.
Adam
A.J. brown.
Dave
I'd be surprised if there's a quarterback change. Second round.
Heath
Second round.
Adam
Yeah. Okay. Are we buying Travis etn rest of season Real quick on that too.
Jamie
It looks so much better. The best run that ETN had is when they let him score.
Adam
I know.
Heath
I mean relative to the other low end RB2s. Yes. I'm buying it.
Adam
All right.
Jamie
Yeah.
Adam
Indianapolis 41, Tennessee 20.
Jamie
You want to break down Nick Chubbs game?
Adam
I would love to, but we'll be here two hours.
Heath
Believe it or not. What are we on? Indianapolis, Tennessee.
Adam
Yeah. Yeah.
Heath
Daniel Jones, the top 12 quarterback rest of the season.
Jamie
Believe it.
Dave
Not committing to it. Don't believe it.
Adam
Heath, do you believe it yet? Are you a Indiana Jones believer?
Heath
No, I laid it out and he didn't quite keep it up. But he was very good. I said I'd move him into borderline top 12 range. If he was a a starter this week and he wasn't quite and then if he's good at the Rams next week, well, then you have to believe it.
Adam
He's pretty.
Jamie
I will say this though, just for the Titans defense, like they made bow necks look stupid in week one. They did a pretty good job on Matthew Stafford for a good portion of that game. And Daniel Jones I thought looked very solid once again.
Adam
Yeah, he did.
Heath
Elic IO Manor over Calvin Ridley rest.
Jamie
Of season believe it. Kind of has only to get better.
Dave
Yeah, right. Titans are eventually going to shift how they move those targets around.
Adam
Jamie made a good call on on I.O. manor this morning and I was like, what? Eric? Really? And he's like, yeah, it was a good call. Tony Power. Luckily he scored and Cam Ward threw a pass to Tony Pollard and it did go for a touchdown, but it was to the other team and that's it for that game. Philadelphia 33 and the Rams 26. Instead of doing it, believe it or not, I think we should just talk about, you know, Dave and I were chatting during the game and it was like, man, Jalen hurts looks rough. And they went down big. And I was like, you know, this could be what they need. Right. And I think everybody probably felt that way. Let's make them throw. But it's just not going to happen like this for them, typically, you know, so do you try to capitalize on their value at its highest? For Hertz, I'll throw them. I don't think so. But for Hertz, for Brown and for.
Heath
Devonte Smith, I think for devonte Smith, for sure.
Adam
Okay. It was. At least if you didn't see the game, I mean, Jamie said it first. AJ Brown looked so damn good. It was like. It was like he was taking like one hand almost. And just like. Like that guy on the basketball court that holds it above your head and you try to whack at it and then he moves the ball. He was just, like playing it on a different level.
Jamie
It was so at least three passes where he was covered very well. And just his hands are so amazing.
Adam
Yeah.
Jamie
And he just takes the. And then he makes a move. And it's just like, you want to see more of that? So we're. We watched the games with former general manager Ran Carthon and former Patriots running back. He's most famous for that team, Damien Harris. And Damien asked us, where does A.J. brown rank in terms of receivers in the NFL? And I gave my answer, David. And Damien said he's the best receiver in football if he ever got the opportunities. Like, that's how good he is and what people around the league think of him. Like, he's just so talented.
Adam
Yeah.
Jamie
Now, you could debate, obviously, Chase and, And Jefferson, all those things. Clearly everybody's gonna have their own opinion, but, like, you just watch him play and when he does get these chances, like, you just see how good he is. So you hope that, you know, you don't want to see Lane Johnson miss. But what we say this morning, they're so boring.
Adam
Yeah.
Jamie
And this was so much fun.
Adam
Like, this was.
Jamie
This was a fun game to watch just because of how the game, the ebbs and flows of it based on how things start. Like, Jalen Hurst was getting pummeled as soon as Lane Johnson left the game. Like, he was just getting blasted it and they couldn't run the ball at all. And if you go back to what our narrative was, I'll speak for myself. My narrative was. I know, I know there was some, you know, shared thoughts from. From the collective, but that they were going to struggle to run the ball a little bit this year based on last year. Not to this extent, not. Not this badly. But that they were gonna have to throw the ball more. Right. We kind of said that.
Adam
Yeah.
Jamie
And it, it played into how we felt about Brown and, and Smith and, and Goddard and, and even Jalen hurts. And this is what we wanted to see.
Adam
Like they could do this.
Jamie
They really can.
Adam
They could do whatever they want.
Jamie
They could do whatever. That's a great way to frame it. They could do whatever they want. And so it would be nice to see a little bit more balance because there's so much fun to watch when they do this.
Adam
Last question about this game. What round would you draft Devonte Adams in? At this point, I honestly think you could make a case for him as a first round pick.
Jamie
He had the great touchdown catch and should have had another one. It was great play by Blankenship. I think. I think you're right, Blanket, but I don't. I wouldn't take him in the first round, but he would be. I think still he was drafted. This thing's appropriate.
Adam
Yeah.
Dave
Round three, maybe late round two. But Puk is an absolute maniac.
Adam
I know. All right.
Jamie
This was great for Kyra. It was great to see him play like that.
Adam
Kyron looked terrific too. Yeah. Great game. Great game. Washington 41, Las Vegas 24. Like the quietest 31 fantasy points in quarterback history. It's so weird that Geno smith threw for 289 and three in this game because they got absolutely blasted.
Heath
He had a receiver that had 145 yards and three touchdowns. Like he just threw bombs to Trey Tucker.
Adam
Yeah.
Jamie
If I would have said to you guys before the game, Gino's going for 289 3. You would have said, what about the receiving core?
Dave
That, oh, Bowers and Jacoby would have had monster games.
Adam
Yeah.
Jamie
I mean, it's so, so annoying.
Dave
Tucker had four catches for 98 yards and two touchdowns in the fourth quarter.
Jamie
Wow.
Adam
All right, so what do we got for this game?
Dave
Blown out.
Heath
We have talked about almost all of these guys, but you missed your sell high window on Debo Samuel.
Jamie
Not a McLaren's hurt, right?
Dave
Correct.
Adam
Also, we didn't have Jaden Daniels today. How many passes did Mariota throw? Couldn't have been many.
Dave
21.
Adam
Yeah.
Jamie
So you have a mustard quarterback if Jane Daniel's out again at Atlanta next week. Oh, yes.
Heath
Revenge game.
Dave
Yep.
Adam
Oh, all right. It would be a real revenge game, I think, if he played against Arthur Smith in Pittsburgh. And they're next. Pittsburgh 21 against Chip Kelly. Pittsburgh was on the Raiders.
Jamie
Wasn't he tripping Chip Kelly Was on the Raiders or Mario was on the Raiders.
Dave
On the Raiders, wasn't he?
Jamie
Yeah. Spent two years on the Raiders.
Adam
I don't remember that at all.
Heath
He's got a lot of revenge games.
Adam
All right, Pittsburgh 21 and New England 14. Pittsburgh only had the ball for 26 minutes and 40 seconds. The Patriots completely gave this game away. Gave it away. Heath, what do we have from a fantasy standpoint?
Heath
Trivia on. Henderson is the second best rookie running back rest of season.
Jamie
Don't believe it?
Adam
No, I don't think so.
Dave
Believe it or not, I don't believe it because I think the Patriots are going to continue to botch this.
Adam
Look, he's got to do better than what he did today. It's not all on them. He's not playing. He's not doing enough with his opportunities. Fair. You know. Okay.
Dave
Yeah. Almost every single snap after Ramandre's two fumbles and Gibson's one fumble.
Jamie
You're redrafting the rookie running backs right now. What's the word?
Dave
Hampton one. Genty two. Judkins three.
Adam
Henderson.
Dave
Debating Bill versus Henderson.
Heath
Oh, I'd be Henderson way over.
Adam
And there's Tootin. It has to be. I mean like.
Dave
Yeah. Might be out of both those guys. Yeah, I think he is.
Adam
And then like I'll pick up Harvey on waivers after the draft.
Heath
I've got another one. All Patriots wide receivers are droppable.
Adam
Oh, yeah. Question do you think would you rather have Jalen Warren or Travion Henderson? You should do.
Heath
You got to do the Drake May segment.
Adam
Oh, Mike is dissing Heath for dissing Drake may.
Heath
Yeah. 22 points. Mike wins. Mike's two and one.
Jamie
He could have such a big day today.
Adam
Could have had a huge game. He also could have thrown two interceptions. They were both dropped.
Heath
And he did throw one right?
Adam
He did.
Heath
And fumble.
Jamie
Yep.
Adam
He's mistaken.
Dave
Patriots gave this game away.
Adam
He's mistake prone. So I've turn. Yeah. Jalen Warren or Travion Henderson rest of season.
Heath
Warren. I think he should buy him right now.
Jamie
Warren could be such a monster. He's like. Like you said, you know, he doesn't have the touchdown in the beginning part of the game. Like he could. He's like on the cusp of like just being a Stud.
Adam
Tampa Bay 29 and the Jets 27. A wild finish to this one game winning field goal after the jets took a crazy lead with with a block field goal of their own that they return for a touchdown. But Heath, the Bucks win by two. And what do we got?
Heath
You should buy Breeze hole right now.
Adam
Nine carries for 21 yards, four catches for 31 yards for breeze Hall. And you're saying you should buy him? And Jamie says he does not believe that.
Dave
Dave, I don't mind buying him as long as it's at a. An appropriate price.
Jamie
It.
Heath
I. I just think that his value will be more a month from now than it is right now. Dolphins, Cowboys, Broncos, Panthers, Bengals. In the next five weeks for the Jets.
Jamie
I love. Good point.
Adam
It's a great call. Yeah, I guess I only saw a few of his carries, but one, he gained 21 yards. One of them was a 17 yard run, I think.
Dave
Yes.
Adam
And I was like, damn, Breeze hall looks good. And then at the end of the game, I saw the box score. He had four carries on his four yards on his other eight carries.
Jamie
Does his reception stay up though, when Justin Fields is playing?
Adam
Right.
Dave
Should have better efficiency. The offensive line's still good. This was a tough matchup for him.
Adam
No, but Jamie's right that he. He probably doesn't get four touch four catches because he only had four catches in the first two games of the season. So he probably doesn't get that with Fields. Maybe.
Heath
Believe it or not, a Mecca Abuka should have been the number one pick in rookie dress.
Jamie
Believe it.
Adam
What. What a game he had.
Jamie
He's such a stud. That catch was ridiculous.
Dave
Yeah.
Jamie
The one handed and I mean, we. We may get a week if God was not ready. And Evan's out of. Hello, target chair.
Adam
What I don't get is you. You have Sauce Gardner shadowing Evans for much of the game. And then they. They run a play like first and goal from the two or something like that. And you don't have that. That is Mike Evans territory. And you don't have Gardner on him. And of course he scores a touchdown. You deserve to lose when you do that. All right, we're gonna take one more break. Yeah. See what we got here. The Chargers 23 and the Broncos 20.
Heath
Cortland Sutton's the top 15 wide receiver rest of season.
Jamie
That's an easy. Believe it. He was basically a top 15 receiver for most of us in draft day.
Heath
He. He was not throughout the week. This week.
Adam
It was a tough matchup. These are two good defenses too. Yeah, he's really. He's hit such a bad week last week. It was very weird, but he bounced back nicely. Cortland.
Jamie
Did any of you guys worry, though?
Adam
No.
Heath
We had a lot of Portland Sutton questions this morning.
Jamie
No, no, I understand why the audience worried because Troy Franklin was great and Sutland sucked. But I mean, that's going to happen.
Adam
You guys in general, buying or selling J.K. dobbins. He has scored in every game. He has now scored more than 14 PPR fantasy points in every game.
Jamie
I'd be selling just because of the injury track record.
Heath
I was gonna say I'll buy as long as he's healthy.
Dave
I'd be buying if I had Chase Brown.
Adam
What do you got? Oh, interesting. Brown over.
Jamie
All right.
Dave
I need a running back so I can trust. I can trust this guy.
Heath
You're not selling chase Brown for J.K. dobbins.
Jamie
That's what he just said.
Heath
I thought he was going to add J.K. dobbins too.
Dave
I want to try and give up something else and just keep Chase Brown on the bench and then start J.K. dobbins until Chase Brown gets better. I don't know if. I don't know if the Dobbins manager would take Chase Brown at this point.
Adam
So what do you think his start. I know it. But what do you think his star percentage was J.K. dobbins today 20.
Jamie
37%.
Heath
45.
Adam
47. All right. We talked about the Chargers wide receivers.
Jamie
Is there anything my start of the week next week.
Adam
Anything else? Dropper hold. Troy Franklin. Two catches for eight yards on four targets.
Jamie
Hold.
Dave
Agreed.
Adam
Alrighty. Seattle 44. Oh, just.
Jamie
Would you rather have rest of season Troy Franklin or Jerry Judy?
Adam
Jerry. Judy.
Heath
Judy.
Dave
Probably Judy.
Adam
But just an interesting development. Arande Gadsden Jr. Was active for the first time this year and he had seven targets for the Chargers and five catches for 46 yards. Two percent roster.
Dave
Tight end Seattle Herbert threw 47 times.
Adam
Okay. Seattle 44, New Orleans 13.
Heath
You should just make that sound and not worry about Alvin Camara. It sucked, but he's fine.
Dave
Tough matchup. I hate the targets back down again. But at least he had 18 carries.
Jamie
I mean he gets Buffalo next week. Like not gonna be easy and it's.
Dave
Not going to be great.
Adam
Chris Olave is going to set a record for lowest yards per target.
Jamie
Has become Alvin Camaro.
Heath
There's some actual truth to that. Like that's part of Alan Camaro's target problem in two or three weeks.
Adam
But I, you know, having Olave, I'm never, I, I feel almost comforted starting him. He's a high floor guy in PPR or even half ppr and one of these days he'll have a good game. But he's just getting so many 15 fantasy.
Dave
He had a good game this week.
Adam
In full PBR he did. Yeah. But he's got what he's got. 23, 37 targets in three games.
Dave
37 targets, 23 catches, 165 yards. That's 7.2 yards per catch for Crystal LaFay for.
Jamie
For the past, I don't know, five years or so. Whatever the case may be. Alvin Camara has kind of been the poster child for people who hate PPR. Just put a Saints logo.
Adam
JSN, very good game. 5 catches, 96 yards and a touchdown and Cooper Cup. I think maybe we have to look at Cooper cup and to say, when are the Seahawks gonna have to throw week one, 23 pass attempts. He's horrible. Week two, 33 pass attempts. He's great this week. How many pass attempts for. I'm sorry. I know I should know this for Darnold. 18 for Darnold. Yeah. So wasn't a good setup for him. This game was over in the first quarter.
Jamie
Are you selling Ken Walker?
Heath
It was a pretty gross, fantastic fantasy day.
Jamie
It's pretty gross, fantastic fantasy day. And Charbonnet is going to be healthy at some point and he's going to potentially get hurt at some point. And so, like, do you maximize the value now?
Heath
I kind of feel.
Dave
Yes.
Heath
I feel the same way about him as I do ETN, though. It's like there's so many of those RB2s that are just terrible that. Who am I targeting with him?
Jamie
Would you rather have Ken Walker or Ashton Genti rest of season?
Heath
I'd probably still rather have Genti.
Jamie
I would think this trade you can make right now.
Adam
How about Breeze hall or Ken Walker?
Dave
Probably Walker.
Jamie
I'll take Walker.
Adam
Last one. Brian Thomas Jr. Or Ken Walker?
Dave
I was thinking that exact same one.
Jamie
Walker.
Heath
Walker.
Adam
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Heath
Heath, Ricky Pierce all is a must start wide receiver no matter who gets healthy.
Jamie
Believe it.
Adam
No, I don't believe it.
Dave
I don't believe it. In a two receiver league.
Jamie
I want to see it with Brock Purdy again. I mean a little bit of an unknown right now of what this will look like with Purdy and the two receivers at full strength and. And Kittle at full strength.
Adam
Right. It's. It's just that McCaffrey is just. Does McCaffrey have 25 catches at this point?
Jamie
I mean he's got 25 catches today.
Adam
Yeah, he had 10 today.
Dave
He's up to 25 on the season.
Adam
25. I mean it's just too many. I. I wish I could believe that because I think everyone sees when Ricky Pearsall gets the ball. He's pretty good. But last week Juwan Jennings crushed him and George Kittles barely played with with him and I just. I don't believe it. I actually was going to say you know if I were doing it would have been by he's. You know Pierce all is a great sell high.
Jamie
He's definitely still hot candidate.
Adam
Right.
Dave
Because of all the things we let out. And he took on a Cardinals defense down two starters in the secondary but.
Jamie
The four second half was amazing.
Adam
Are never healthy. We do this every year with these guys. Well when everyone's out they're never healthy.
Jamie
Well, you also have to factor in are you coming back doing it while.
Dave
No one else is healthy.
Jamie
Ayuk will come back too. As well.
Adam
Yeah. Oh man. Pierce all or Brian Thomas.
Jamie
Let's celebrate that.
Adam
Who scored? Yeah, it was cool. Pierce all Brian Thomas Jr.
Dave
I'll take the chance on BTJ.
Heath
I'll take BTJ.
Adam
Thoughts on Marvin Harrison Jr. Guys.
Jamie
Awful drop.
Adam
Yeah, but that's not him. I mean that's Fluky.
Heath
He's a number three wide receiver who might score 20 fantasy points and he might score five.
Jamie
That might have been a 40 yard reception.
Adam
Yeah, I feel bad for him. I really like him. He's one of my favorite players. He's. He's never complaining about targets. He's like he was asked about it last Week. He's like, are you serious? We don't care about that. When I saw him on Hard Knocks in the Giants. Hard Knocks, he was the most. Look, I don't know what the real Marvin Harrison Jr. Is, but he was so humble. And, you know, I think I just. I love him.
Jamie
I'm rooting for him, but I really wish he would have caught the touchdown after the drop because that would have been a hell of a catch.
Adam
Yeah, for sure. All right, last game, Chicago 31 and Dallas 14.
Heath
You should hold Dak Prescott despite the fact that he plays the packers this week.
Jamie
I'll bite.
Dave
As opposed to what, dropping him?
Heath
Because I think some people are going to.
Jamie
I'd be surprised if he got dropped. He's throwing the ball so much. Yeah.
Dave
Don't drop tack.
Adam
He drops deck. Right. Like, he drops back. Yeah. So we're hoping that Lamb plays next week. Thoughts on Javante Williams?
Jamie
He said he. He expects play.
Adam
He said that? Yeah. I don't believe him. I believe that he thinks he expects to play, but I'm not gonna just bank on it. But, yeah, he expects to. Please. He's. Yeah. So, Javante, 10 carries. Miles Sanders, nine carries. Jonathan played great. He had that fumble, though, unfortunately.
Dave
But, yeah, that part stung.
Adam
76.
Jamie
That was such a great play. My God.
Adam
Tyreek Stevenson, bro. It's all about the Canes this week. Javante, like, how are we feeling about him?
Dave
Fine.
Jamie
Javante. I'd be very thrilled to have devonte ones right now.
Dave
Yes, absolutely.
Adam
Okay.
Jamie
Are you?
Heath
Yeah. I don't know. Be super. I'm not sure I'm gonna be super thrilled to start him against the packers next week.
Adam
Right.
Jamie
But those are two different conversations. But to have him rostered. Thrilled.
Dave
Absolutely.
Adam
And anything. Anything. You want to talk. How do you feel about having DeAndre Swift, who had. I don't, honestly. I know the Cowboys defense stinks. I think they might have a good run. Defense I feel like they've been pretty.
Dave
Good against isn't a good runner.
Jamie
DeAndre Swift will make one stupid play every game that you just wonder, like, where he had. There was a dump off pass. He runs into the middle instead of going cutting outside. We had so much real estate. I don't understand some of the things he does.
Adam
I don't know. Heath, you were his. His biggest supporter. How are you feeling about DeAndre Swift?
Heath
Man, he's probably somewhere between RB24 and 28 right now.
Adam
He's.
Heath
I think he's probably gonna score between 10 and 12 points every week if he doesn't score a touchdown and he might score a little more than that if he does. There was more of a rotation this week with Kyle and on Guy, but he also does dumb stuff almost every week.
Jamie
That was dumb.
Dave
It's a little uneven because there's some teams that haven't played three games yet, but he's currently RB22 on a PER game basis.
Jamie
In full piece, he's very comfortable. He's got a.
Dave
He is 7/10 of a PPR point behind Alvin Camara.
Adam
Can I tell you guys something that's making me really happy right now?
Heath
We're just gonna send Dave and I decided before the show, I'm just going to send barbecue to Adam and Dave's going to send pizza to Jamie because all four players are terrible.
Adam
The four players are Camara, Swift, Pacheco and.
Heath
No, Harrison and Judy.
Adam
Harrison and Judy. Oh. Oh, I get what you're saying. Yeah. No, I just want to tell you something that just to end the show on a really positive note, something that's just making me happy right now. Kareem Hunt has each of the first three carries for the Kansas City Chiefs tonight. So great.
Heath
We got to establish the run.
Adam
You know, he's just got all that long hair. He runs so hard. All right, folks, thank you so much for watching and listening and hope your week three is going well. We will talk to you on beyond the Box Score Monday at noon eastern. YouTube.com fantasy football today. We're a couple hours later in our podcast feed. Good night everyone.
Jamie
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Episode Title: Big Injuries, Rising RBs, Slumping Studs (09/21 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Date: September 22, 2025
Panelists: Adam Aizer (Host), Dave Richard, Jamey Eisenberg, Heath Cummings
This action-packed episode recaps a wild and injury-filled Week 3 of the NFL and fantasy season. The FFT crew breaks down the huge injuries that shook up rosters (including James Conner, Najee Harris, Mike Evans, and CeeDee Lamb), the impact this has on waiver wires and player value, and the emergence of rookie running backs Quinshon Judkins and Omari Hampton. They analyze slumping studs, buzzy waiver recommendations, trade questions, and the best (and worst) starts from a chaotic slate.
Tone: Lively, bantery, and a bit frenetic as the crew reacts in real-time to a whirlwind weekend.
Winners:
Losers:
| Position | Priority Adds | Stash/Speculative | |-----------|------------------------|------------------------------| | RB | Trey Benson, O. Hampton, Tyjae Spears | Jeremy McNichols, Travis Henderson, Harvey | | WR | Trey Tucker, Christian Kirk, Lad McConkey | Pierceall, R. Gadsden Jr., Troy Franklin | | TE | Hunter Henry | Juwan Johnson, Fannin, Bowers| | QB | Geno Smith, Mariota, Wentz | - |
For a full waiver rundown, rankings, and trade guidance, tune in to FFT’s Monday Express and subscribe for real-time podcast drops. Good luck in Week 4!
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