Worryometer and Pumped-Up-O-Meter! Plus Cowboys-Lions Preview and Fantasy Jeopardy (12/03 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Summary

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Fantasy Football Today Podcast Summary

Episode: Worryometer & Pumped-Up-O-Meter! Plus Cowboys-Lions Preview and Fantasy Jeopardy
Date: December 3, 2025
Hosts: Adam Aizer, Heath Cummings, Jamie Eisenberg

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Episode Overview

In this energetic episode, Adam, Heath, and Jamie go full-force into the fantasy football playoff push. They break down "Worryometer" and "Pumped-Up-O-Meter"—gauging concern and excitement for key fantasy players. The hosts also preview the Cowboys-Lions Thursday night shootout, address lineup dilemmas, and finish with a hilarious round of Fantasy Jeopardy, blending stats, strategy, and banter.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. News & Notes [03:12-04:27]

• Key Updates:
  • Tyrone Tracy Jr.: Hip contusion and a stinger, but expected to be okay after the Giants’ bye.
  • Omarion Hampton: Expected to play Monday night vs. Eagles.
  • Chargers RBs: Hampton ranked as borderline RB2 (Jamie), Vidal a low-flex.
  • Lions: Amon-Ra St. Brown, Khalif Raymond, Brock Wright, both OTs missed practice, but this is ‘nothing new’.
  • Other notes: Pittsburgh claims Adam Thielen; Elijah Moore to Broncos practice squad; 49ers hopeful Brandon Aiyuk will return this season.

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2. Worryometer & Pumped-Up-O-Meter [04:27-40:14]

Format:

• Worryometer: Scale of 0-10, measures concern for a player's rest-of-season value.
• Pumped-Up-O-Meter: Measures excitement or confidence in fantasy outlook.

Sample Player Discussions:

A.J. Brown (Eagles):

• User from Twitter is “pumped” about him; coming off huge back-to-back games.

  • Heath:
    “He's got 33 targets over his last three games. … Some of it is just how bad the wide receiver position is.” [05:54]

  • Hosts agree: He's squarely a WR1 despite tough upcoming Chargers matchup; start with confidence.

Brock Bowers:

• Tough remaining schedule but must-start.
  • Jamie: “You're going to start Bowers, but it is a tough schedule. He may not be a league winner, but he's going to be a starter.” [05:25]

Kyron Williams (Rams):

• Split backfield concern but high usage and efficiency (5.1 YPC).
  • Jamie: “As a fantasy manager of Kyron Williams, you're never benching him.” [11:04]
  • Adam: “If he doesn't score a touchdown you're in trouble now… but with the offense, 14 points per game is RB16—must start in most leagues.” [10:27]

Travion Henderson:

• After a hype-filled stretch, concerns on usage and schedule:
  • Jamie:
    "I thought we were getting a potential top 15 RB rest of season. … Now, I don't know if I have a great number two RB for the playoffs." [12:59]

Others quickly covered:

• Rico Dowdle: “Very, very high on the worryometer.” (Heath) [18:10]
• Bears, Panthers, Cardinals, Chargers backfields: Cautious about platoon/backfield splits.
• Drake London, Jalen Warren, Teteroa McMillan, Zay Flowers, Stefan Diggs… — Each got worry/pumped treatment and strategic comparisons.

Notable Quotes:

• Heath: “RB16 is not must-start. There aren't 16 must-start RBs.” [10:52]
• Jamie: “With Kyron, the upside is capped, but he’s a safe starter.” [14:44]

Worry Scale Highlights:

• Staples (A.J. Brown, Kyron, Javonte): Little to modest worry, strong starters.
• Trending Down (Travion, Panthers/Chargers/Cardinal RBs): Worry 7-9 range due to usage or matchups.
• WRs like Zay Flowers, Stefan Diggs: Jamie—“close to a 10” on worry for Zay; Diggs 5-7 “with upside for more.”

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3. Rapid-Fire Worry/Pump Player Checks [27:03-40:14]

• Terry McLaurin: “Probably like 7 [pumped up]… top 24 WR this week.” (Heath)
• Bucky Irving, Jameson Williams: Jamie ultra pumped: “Top 10 WR this week.”
• Zay Flowers: “It’s gotta be close to a 10… you want him to go out and dominate but can’t trust it.” (Jamie) [28:21]
• Chargers WRs: “Collectively: 8 [worry]. McConkey is a weekly starter, others are flex/bench.” (Jamie)
• Baker Mayfield (with Evans back): Jamie—yes, pumped up; Heath—skeptical, wants ‘to see Evans in action first’ [37:53]

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4. Dallas Cowboys vs. Detroit Lions Preview (Thursday Night Football) [40:14-52:40]

Key Fantasy Plays:

• Start with Confidence:

  • Dak Prescott — “Top-3 QB” (Adam)
  • Jared Goff — “Top-5 even without ARSB, incredible matchup.”
  • CeeDee Lamb, George Pickens, Jameer Gibbs, Jameson Williams

• Javonte Williams: (vs. tough Lions run D)

  • Heath: “…He’s an RB2, you expect 15+ touches… hope he gets the TD in a high-scoring game.” [41:16]

• Jake Ferguson: (Cowboys TE)

  • Heath/Jamie: Low-end TE1, “borderline, only if you have to start him.” Start Juwan Johnson, Dalton Schultz over him.

Key Matchups & Sit/Start Dilemmas:

• Would you start both QBs over Mahomes? “Yes.” (Jamie & Adam)
• David Montgomery: Only a flex in non-PPR, full PPR “skip if possible.” (Jamie)
• Lions backup WRs (Tesla/Kennedy): Tesla is boom-bust upside flex, “immense ceiling, non-existent floor.” (Jamie) [48:06]
• Tesla v. Zay Flowers: “Flowers is safer; Tesla is pure upside.” (Jamie/Heath)

Stat of the Game:
"Still, only one RB has scored more than 16 PPR vs. the Lions all season." (Adam)

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5. Fantasy Jeopardy! [52:40-end]

Lighthearted Trivia Faceoff:

• Three categories: QBs, Pass Catchers, Christmas Movies
• Jamie and Heath buzz in, battle over stats, pop culture, and movie knowledge.
  • Example:
    • Christmas Story—What does Ralphie get from his aunt? “Pink bunny suit.”
    • Home Alone—What do the bad guys call themselves? Heath: “The Wet Bandits.” [55:04]

Football-Related Questions:

• “Who is the #2 QB per game behind Josh Allen?”
  Heath: “Mahomes.” [56:05]
• “Which NFC North WR leads in YAC per catch?”
  Adam: “Jameson Williams… averaging 8.7 yards after catch.” [58:18]

Fun Banter:

• Jamie and Heath argue Jeopardy scoring, movie definitions, and channel classic rivalries.
• Jamie asks Adam a Jeopardy question—a playful “host” category.
• Laugh-out-loud moments on ‘Tesla or Rivian’, ‘form of a question’, and pop-up stats.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Adam, on declining production:
  “If he doesn’t score a touchdown, you’re in trouble. … I see with Kyron in my lineup that there’s big downside if he doesn’t score.” [11:11]
• Jamie, on risk/reward flexing Tesla:
  “The ceiling is immense. The floor is non-existent. … But with all the scoring in this game, I’m rolling the dice.” [48:06]
• Heath on WR dilemmas:
  “Tedro [McMillan] is the name-brand version of what you hope from Tesla—a guy who might get you 25 once, then 10–11 again.” [50:47]

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Important Segment Timestamps

| Time | Segment/Event | |:----------:|------------------------------------------------| | 01:48 | Opening banter, preview of episode topics | | 03:12 | News & Notes | | 04:27 | Worryometer / Pumped-Up-O-Meter begins | | 07:18 | AJ Brown matchups & performance breakdown | | 10:27 | Kyron Williams usage and start/sit value | | 12:59 | Travion Henderson & RB debate | | 18:10 | Backfield “platooning” worries (Panthers, etc) | | 20:55 | WR worry ratings: McMillan, Jalen Warren, etc. | | 28:21 | Zay Flowers worry; Stefan Diggs | | 33:35 | Chargers WRs explained; game script talk | | 37:51 | Baker Mayfield rest-of-season excitement | | 40:14 | Cowboys-Lions Thursday Night preview | | 48:06 | Isaac Tesla: Floor/Ceiling Flex discussion | | 52:40 | Fantasy Jeopardy! |

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Tone & Style

The episode displays the signature FFT blend of data-driven analysis, lighthearted jabs, and listener-focused advice. Hosts riff on social media submissions, dissect matchups in real time, and encourage bold starts—ending with their famously competitive trivia round.

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For Fantasy Managers Who Missed the Show

• This episode is all about adjusting lineups, understanding risk, and maximizing playoff decisions.
• Start your studs, but be aware of usage trends and matchup data.
• Monitor ambiguous backfields—Panthers, Cardinals, Chargers—and temper expectations.
• Dallas-Detroit is a fantasy bonanza; go bold with most skill players.
• Fun and stats collide: You’ll walk away entertained and more prepared for crunch time.

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Sample Listener Takeaways

• Who to trust: A.J. Brown is “back”; Kyron and Javonte are steady, but not league-winners; plenty of RB situations warrant caution.
• This week’s action: Start both Cowboys and Lions QBs, Jameson Williams, and secondary pieces like Tesla if you need upside.
• Be wary: Of Zay Flowers, Chargers receivers, and committee backfields.
• Enjoy the ride: The hosts’ banter and trivia make the show as engaging as it is educational.

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Fantasy Football Today: Your playoff push begins here!

Transcript

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Can you believe this? No, I can't.

[Heath Cummings]

It's time to dominate your fantasy league. This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and he.

[Adam Mazer]

Welcome to Fantasy Football Today presented by BetMGM. Make it legendary. It is Wednesday, December 3rd. It's hump day and we have a fun show for you. We have a great show for you tonight. We've got woriometer and pumptometer. We asked the people, who are you worried about? Who are you pumped about going forward only four weeks. What's up? Why are you shaking your head? You already forgot that Dave's not here. And are we celebrating that, too?

[Heath Cummings]

No.

[Adam Mazer]

Oh, gosh.

[Heath Cummings]

You have to call it the pumped up O meter or you have to accept that washed is acceptable. Those are your two choices.

[Adam Mazer]

But you've heard many people, oh, I'm so pumped for this.

[Heath Cummings]

Oh, I've never heard anybody say wash?

[Adam Mazer]

No. But for years and years people have been saying, I'm so pumped for this, Wash. You know, last few years.

[Heath Cummings]

Make a choice.

[Adam Mazer]

Bumped up O meter is fine. Okay. Bumped up O meter is fine. Just a few news and notes for you and then we're playing a game at the end of the show. Oh, we're also previewing Dallas Detroit, but we're playing a game at the end of the show. What game do you want it to be, Heath?

[Heath Cummings]

This sounds like a fun game.

[Adam Mazer]

He is 100% right. Comment from the chat. Which game would you like?

[Heath Cummings]

I mean, let's see it. We can't. The feud would be fun.

[Adam Mazer]

And Jamie, what would you prefer?

[Jamie]

Jeopardy.

[Adam Mazer]

You got it. Jamie, congratulations. You're on the board. We're playing fantasy Jeopardy.

[Jamie]

Later.

[Adam Mazer]

All right, no day of today, unfortunately. I'll be back on Friday. New yeah, Friday. News and notes. Tyrone Tracy Jr says he has a hip contusion and a stinger, so it seems like he should be fine after the Giants buy. Omarion Hampton is expected to play Monday night against Philadelphia. Who's your highest ranked Chargers running back this week, Jamie?

[Jamie]

I will be Omarion Hampton, but they're both going to be appearing. Hampton will probably be a borderline number two running back at best, and Vidal will be low in flex.

[Adam Mazer]

Okay, the Colts waved kicker Michael Badgley. I'm on Ross St. Brown missed practice. Khalif Raymond is out. Brock Wright missed practice. Both Detroit offensive tackles missed practice. This is nothing new than they end up playing typically. Pittsburgh claimed Adam Thielen off waivers. Pittsburgh defensive tackle Derek Harmon is out. He'll miss his second straight game and that could have a big impact on their run defense as they are at Baltimore this week. San Francisco GM John lynch is hopeful that Brandon Iuk will play this season. And the Broncos signed Elijah Moore to the practice squad. And that is all I have for the news and notes, which is great. All right, let's get right into the worryometer and pumped up O meter. Okay.

[Jamie]

Okay.

[Adam Mazer]

I am seeing now that we have titled the show Pumped O Meter, so gonna have to take it out.

[Heath Cummings]

You're washed.

[Adam Mazer]

All right, Ogre Official Ogre on Twitter says he's pumped for A.J. brown and he's worried about Brock Bowers. So where are we on the pumped up O meter for AJ Brown and the worryometer for Brock Bowers?

[Jamie]

What's the range?

[Adam Mazer]

It's always 0 to 10.

[Jamie]

I don't know. You just made this up, so I don't know if you changed the ranges eight and Zero. I would agree.

[Adam Mazer]

All right, so we're zero worried about Brock Bowers. Now, he cites Ogre, cites the schedule for Bowers, which is Denver at Philadelphia, at Houston. He already played Denver once. He had one catch for 31 yards. That was just an atrocious game for the Raiders, but. Well, actually, I'm thinking the Chiefs game was the atrocious game for the Raiders, but anyway, yeah, so he struggled.

[Jamie]

There's been a lot of atrocious games.

[Adam Mazer]

They have, but that Chiefs game is the one where they, the starters didn't even play in the fourth quarter. Whatever. Whatever it was, I don't remember. All right, so look, you're going to start Bowers, but it is a tough schedule. He may not be a league winner, but he's going to be a starter. Now, Brown coming off a 35 point game against the Bears and a 25 point game at Dallas Heath. Are you kind of convinced that A.J. brown is back?

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, basically. I mean, I think he's got 33 targets over his last three games. And I just like some of it is just that how bad the wide receiver position is. Like, we talk every Sunday night about, well, we're not going to start this guy anymore. And then we get to Tuesday and they're in our top 24. Like, we get a guy that we know is awesome, who's playing awesome. It's pretty exciting. We get pumped.

[Adam Mazer]

I think hopefully you're just hoping that the, the targets are finally catching up and that A.J. brown is just going to be. Gonna be great. All right, so he gets the chart now. He gets the Chargers this week, guys. They are number one against wide receivers. So is there any concern there's.

[Heath Cummings]

You can't be. Who are you gonna start over?

[Adam Mazer]

I mean, look, I, I got what you're saying, but it's not like A.J. brown has not gotten targets all year, right? Eight targets against the Chiefs. He was terrible.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Adam Mazer]

In fact, look at him in tough matchups, right? He had, I would say, five tough matchups. 7.7 points at Kansas City, 23 points. I'm just going to round up 23 points against the Rams, nine points against Denver, 28 points at Minnesota, three points against the Packers.

[Jamie]

I think at this point, with how much Saquon Barkley is struggling and the run game is struggling. This is their best offensive player right now.

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[Jamie]

Chiron is the least worried. Then Rico, then Trivia.

[Adam Mazer]

Heath.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, sure.

[Jamie]

The last two. It's, you know, I think flip a coin because you could be equally worried about both. After what we just saw in week 13. You know, the schedule favors Henderson. Off the top of my head. The touches, I think you have to say, still favors Dallas. You know, I, I know we're all worried because of what Chuba Hubbard did. They still gave Rico Dottle twenty touches, you know, so he just didn't do as well with his 20 touches as Chuba Hubbard did.

[Adam Mazer]

It's true. Kyron, how about this? So the last six games. Six games for the Rams, you've got 88 carries for Chiron and 60 for Quorum. Most of the time they're very close. There was one game where it was kind of a widespread. Chiron's averaging 5.1 yards per carry. I want to say he's the only running back with a carry longer than 13 yards against the Rams. Maybe it was Seattle we wanted to think. I don't think he had us.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, that long against the ramps.

[Adam Mazer]

It was. I forgot it was Seattle or one.

[Heath Cummings]

Of those since like week seven or week eight. Like week seven.

[Adam Mazer]

Oh, when this started.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, you said last six games. And I was trying to remember they had their buy in that stretch. I was just seeing like during this stretch what Kyron's averaging.

[Adam Mazer]

Yeah, 5.1 yards per carry, 88 carries overall in six games, five touchdowns. Blake Quorum, 60 carries, one touchdown. They both have five goal line carries. That's been I think the frustrating thing. If Corum would just come off the field in those situations, we'd be fine with it, I guess. But. All right.

[Jamie]

How much that was last week though when Kyron left?

[Adam Mazer]

No, it's.

[Jamie]

He definitely had a goal line carry after Kyron left.

[Adam Mazer]

So I, yeah, I think Kyron may have come back at that. All right, I'll tell you what, I'll look.

[Heath Cummings]

I mean in that stretch where he is sharing a lot more than I would like for him to share, he's averaging 14 fantasy points per game. He's a must start running back.

[Adam Mazer]

Where does that rank 14 this year?

[Heath Cummings]

I don't know. It's RB16 over that stretch.

[Adam Mazer]

That's a must start running back. RB16.

[Jamie]

I, I would say for him in the office that he plays in.

[Adam Mazer]

Yes, RB16 is not must start. They're at 16 must start running backs. Fine, fine, fine, fine.

[Heath Cummings]

I am worried about the direction of the worryometer game.

[Jamie]

I mean you use said this yourself numerous times about Kyron Williams. As a fantasy manager of Kyron Williams, you're never benching him.

[Adam Mazer]

Yeah, I know because he's on such a great offense. But it's those touchdowns are saving him, man. He doesn't score a touchdown during trouble now the rest of the schedule Arizona. So I think why people would be worried is that he's got Arizona this week or that should be good. The next two opponents are Detroit, their first against running backs and Seattle their seventh. And they have not given up a lot of good games to running backs who just have, you know, 14 carries at most whereas the Falcons and whereas the Cardinals have. All right, I believe I'm belaboring that. Let's talk about Trayvon here guys. Jamie by by this week. Then Buffalo at Baltimore at the jets in the fantasy playoffs for Travion. Your thoughts on him?

[Jamie]

I mean we thought. I'll speak for myself. I thought we were getting a potential top 15 running back rest of season. You know, based on what his usage was was and what the expectation of how they were going to use him was. And then we get to week 13 and Ramandre Stevenson is very much back entrenched in the backfield for the Patriots and we're not going to get that type of I think performance without him either scoring or being more used in the passing game where it was, it felt like it was even split in the goal line work. We know in the last two games hasn't exactly been in his favor. So I think you Just have to hope that his talent shows through. I was a little disappointed with some of his runs against the Giants when he got his opportunities on top of that. So I'm concerned. Yeah. You know, I have a couple leagues where I was like, okay, I, I'm, I'm, I'm excited about this, the stretch run for him because the schedule and, and what he was doing and now was thinking about this this morning, like, I don't know if I have a great number two running back in a couple of those leagues where I know I'm going to playoffs.

[Adam Mazer]

I think maybe that I am Heath, you know, confusing. Not confusing, but interpreting. Must start as cook, something closer to league winner. And you're probably just going like, okay, you're just going to start this guy every week, which I am with, with Kyron. But, you know, I see with Kyron in my lineup that there's a, there's big downside if he doesn't score. And I guess when I talk about must start and maybe I should just use a different term, but it's like Jamie saying with Trayvon Henderson, he's got these teams. With Travion, he thought, oh, man, I got, like, I've got a guy that's going to help me win a championship now. He's not feeling that way. I'm not feeling that way about Kyren, necessarily. I'm not feeling well.

[Jamie]

I, I'll clarify. I don't expect Trevion to be a league winner. I was expecting Travion to be Kyron Williams, where I know I could start him every week. And so let me ask you this just to play your game, Adam. So who would you rather start rest of season, Kyron Williams or Saquon Barkley?

[Adam Mazer]

I think I'd have to go with Kyron Williams.

[Jamie]

Kyron Williams or Devonte Williams?

[Adam Mazer]

I think I have to. I, I think I have to go with Javante Williams.

[Jamie]

Okay. But that's a, a close call at this point.

[Adam Mazer]

And I'll tell you another thing about Kyron. Right. And Heath, I'll let you jump in after this, but he has, in the, in his last nine games when he, when this carry started getting limited, he's on pace for 36. Target for 36 catches, which is not that bad. He had an eight catch game. He has 11 combined catches in the other eight games in that stretch. So Kyron's doing almost nothing in the passing game, too. All right, Heath, your thoughts?

[Heath Cummings]

I don't have anything else to add on that.

[Adam Mazer]

All right. Okay. I think Javante has a better role. Who would you rather have, Javante or Kyron rest of season?

[Jamie]

I, I think that's the same type of player. You know, you have question because of either performance or in the case of Kyron, you know, you know, somebody sharing touches with him. But I think again, you know, if, if you're, if you're, if your team is Kyron Williams, Javante Williams, Trevion Henderson. I'm starting both William guys over Henderson when we get to week 15 and they're all available because I know what the roles are for Kyron. Even in a shared situation. I definitely know what the role is for Javante Williams. I don't know what I'm getting from Trevion Henderson. I don't know what I'm getting from Amarian Hampton. I don't. I, I would start both Williams guys over RJ Harvey. Still, you know, based on even the upside for Harvey, like last week was frustrating as hell, you know, thankfully he scored the two touchdowns, you know, so there's, there's, I don't know if you want to say mustard. I, I think you put the, the Williams guys, like, in the category of safe. You know, like they're, they're starters on your team. They're, you know, if you're going to say must start guys because you start them every week, then they're must start guys. But I just think they're always going to give you a good floor.

[Adam Mazer]

Okay. All right. We're going to take a break and we're going to talk about Omarion Hampton. We're going to talk about the Cardinals backfield, Tetaro McMillan, Drake, London, and many more after this.

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[Adam Mazer]

All right, welcome back everybody.

[Jamie]

Somebody pointed out the tucked in shirt. I can't not see it.

[Adam Mazer]

Oh, on, on Dave on the day video that we just saw. Yeah. All right. Chud says he's worried about the Panthers, Cardinals and Chargers backfields being platoons when everyone is healthy. Panthers, Cardinals and Chargers backfields. And we've got two of them are healthy, the Panthers and now the Chargers. It seems Cardinals hopefully this week. Heath. Yeah, platoonometer. But yeah, worryometer on Panthers, Cardinals and Chargers backfields being platoons.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, it's, I mean we already talked about Rico Dowdle and I think he is very, very high on the worryometer. He's probably an 8 or a 9. I, I think the first week back it's probably going to be a platoon with Hampton, but I would expect that once he's good to go, he, he has more than 15 touches a game and, and we start him every game and who was the other one?

[Adam Mazer]

Cardinals.

[Heath Cummings]

It's a complete mess. But it might be better if, I mean Benson's only got, I think one more week before he's eligible to be activated off of IR and it might just be Bam. Knight still on a platoon, but a borderline RB2. I think if, if Benson comes back, then Benson will probably be that borderline RB2.

[Adam Mazer]

Okay, now the Cardinals have the Rams and the Texans in their next two games. That's kind of tough sledding. But then they finish with the Falcons who are kind of falling apart and they're at the Bengals. Arizona is in week 17. All right. Yeah, well, I think everyone's gonna have a lot their eyes fixated on that Chargers game on, on Monday to see what that backfield, what that offense looks like. I mean That's a. Those two team. Fascinating. Chargers and Eagles. So that's a fascinating game. You know what else is fascinating? We are very close to becoming the [e-mail] we're in the final four. We're in the last four. And go ahead and vote for us here. We are going to either go up if we win, we'll go up against the Pat McAfee show or the Power Trip in the finals. But right now it's the Tony Kornheiser show, so it's very stiff competition. So we need you out there [e-mail] a lot of people are voting because it's so easy to do. So just go to the64.com and you'll find the podcast Sports Radio 1 right on the homepage there. Click on Fantasy Football Today. Vote for us. Let's get to the championship round and then I'll yell at you again for another few days to tell you to vote in the championship round. But thank you everybody who's been voting. Obviously you're showing up in big numbers here because we just keep advancing and it's awesome.

[Jamie]

Oh, we got news on both Bucs wide receivers. Oh, what do we. Have you mentioned Jalen McMillan already, right?

[Adam Mazer]

No, actually, I didn't.

[Jamie]

Oh. So both Mike Evans and Jalen McMillan are eligible to practice as of today.

[Adam Mazer]

Wow. Evans has been medically cleared. Oh, you know what? We have, we have that coming up in this segment anyway. But Frank is worried about Teteroa McMillan and Jalen Warren Tedro McMillan and Jalen Warren worryometer. Let's start with Teterol McMillan, who has eight targets in his last two games or nine targets, including just two last week. But he has caught a touchdown in both games. Jamie worry.

[Jamie]

I'm around McMillan 3. I mean, it's, it's a very run heavy offense, as we're aware. And he's had some up and down moments. When he's been up, he's been fantastic. When he's been down, he's still been startable. I think you just again, he talked about this with AJ Brown, like the receiving options that we have most weeks, even when there's no teams on a buy, have been scarce in terms of guys that you think can be solid number two receivers with a chance to be number one guys. And I think that's where Teterom McMillan is. So it's been frustrating. You know, he's, he's had some, some disappointing weeks. The touchdowns have saved him. But I still think just based on what his role is in this offense and what his upside can be. I'm still starting him most weeks.

[Heath Cummings]

This is my, my favorite game. But where does Ted Rookmillen rank in fantasy points per game?

[Adam Mazer]

About 18th. Yeah, but that's so, so that you're just gonna say then he should be treated like a top 18 receiver.

[Heath Cummings]

I. Not in any other season.

[Airbnb Host]

No.

[Heath Cummings]

But yes, absolutely. I, I think we've. I don't have any reason to believe that Teteroa McMillan is going to be worse rest of season than he has been. There's probably. If he plays three games in the fantasy playoffs, he's probably going to have one very good game. One 12 point game in one game around eight or nine and I'm probably going to start him for all three.

[Adam Mazer]

I guess you just look at the game log though. What's he averaging?

[Heath Cummings]

13.5.

[Jamie]

He says on our screen 13.1.

[Heath Cummings]

13.1, 0.1 here. So.

[Von Miller]

Yeah, all right.

[Adam Mazer]

He's reached that four times in 12 games. So that's one out of three. As you were saying, that big game against the Falcons. 33 fantasy point. You know what, obviously McMillan usually has a very high target share, but Jamie, you mentioned it, they run the ball a lot. So then you look at their schedule. Are they going to throw the ball at New Orleans? Probably not. Could they throw the ball against Tampa Bay? Yes. Throw the ball against Seattle. Seattle has been so good against wide receivers lately. That's who he finishes with. That's week 17. I will say this and then we'll move on. I almost dropped 10 year old McMillan last night in a 10 team league, but I thought that's probably a little crazy.

[Heath Cummings]

I mean I think it's just like you've got to decide do you feel better about Zay Flowers right now? Do you feel better about Khalil Shakir right now? Do you feel better about Wondell Robinson when he gets back? Maybe you do. Do you feel better about Debo Samuel with, with Terry McLaurin back? It's no. Right. Those are the guys that are going to kind of populate that wide receiver 25 to 36 range amongst others. And I think Tedro was ahead of those guys.

[Adam Mazer]

I almost dropped them because I was pretty solid at receiver and really needed running back help. And we were thinking about Singletary, but that's gone up in smoke obviously. And then what about Jalen Warren? Worryometer jamie on warren3.

[Jamie]

I mean it, it's a, it's another guy that gets a lot of work. An offense that stinks. They are Absolutely struggling right now but you know, you go back two games ago, he had 18 carries. You know, I forget what the yardage was but scored a touchdown, was a season high carries for him two games prior and scored a touchdown against Buffalo. Like I don't know. I, he's, he's a slight notch behind Kyron Williams and, and Javonte Williams. For me, like I know I'm getting with him.

[Adam Mazer]

Okay. Yeah, it was nice to see him keep that grip on the backfield. Jalen Warren schedule the offense has been horrible. They're at Baltimore, then Miami, then at Detroit, then at Cleveland. It's not the easiest schedule but Warren was started in 76% of leagues last week with no teams on by. So remember they had the ball for 18 minutes against the Bills and he still had 12 touches. Nick Drum Heath is worried about Drake London, the injury and bad quarterback play. Are you worried about Drake London?

[Heath Cummings]

I am definitely. If you're talking about the possibility of Drake London being a top six wide receiver rest of season, I'd probably put him at like a seven or an eight on the worryometer. I'm still worried that when he comes back he looks like Brock Bowers did before Brock Bowers took more time off. I still think the second that they say that Drake London is active, I'm going to be starting him in every league where I have him on a roster. It's just I don't know that I'm going to get what I drafted. I don't expect that I'm going to get what I drafted him to be.

[Adam Mazer]

This week is a tough week. I don't know if, if he plays this week. Does the Seattle matchup scare you? Just trying to find like what they've done against Nico Collins. Let's see. Nico Collins scored 6.7 points against Seattle. Debo Samuel 9.4, Marvin Harrison Jr. 12.3 with a touchdown, 33 yards and a touchdown on 12 targets. Puka Nukua 7 for 75. Devonte Adams 1 catch, 1 yard, 1 touchdown on 8 targets against Seattle Titans guys were bad. The Vikings got Justin Jefferson just had two catches for 4 yards on six targets. So the Seattle Seahawks are looking like maybe the worst matchup for receivers. So if London does play this week, are you guys going to put them in the top 12, top 20?

[Jamie]

I again you're, you're still talking about a guy that's been one of the best receivers this season, one of the best fancy receivers this season. And I get the, the second part of this comment, you know, with the quarterback situation, you know, because Kirk Cousins does not look good. But again, like when we're starting to compare him to, you know, I'm trying to think about the receivers that are outside the top 24. I'm not getting cute with Adnai Mitchell and Devon Vale and you know, those type of guys, if you want to say like, and you could certainly make the argument for Christian Watson and Alec Pierce and guys that have had, you know, some positive stretches that are a little bit more trustworthy than some of these guys that just flashed last week. But I mean, I know for me in, in the two or three leagues where I have Drake London, I'm desperate for him to come back. Okay.

[Adam Mazer]

All right, let's go to the next one here. We got a lot of names from Caleb so we'll go through them more quickly here. Pumped up O meter. Caleb is pumped up about Terry McLaurin. What's your pumped up O meter on McLaurin?

[Heath Cummings]

So probably like 7 just to have him back and him look like he was. He's a top 24 wide receiver for me this week. And you hope the usage, I mean he played less than half the snaps and dominated targets in his first game back. If he's a full time player, he may just be a must start wide receiver again.

[Adam Mazer]

Pumped up about Bucky Irving as well. Pumped up.

[Jamie]

Yeah, baby.

[Adam Mazer]

I'm pumped about that too. Pumped up about Jameson Williams, top 10.

[Jamie]

Wide receiver this week.

[Adam Mazer]

Yep, this week's easy. But what about when St. Brown's back?

[Jamie]

I think you just start him and hope that the, the blip that we got things Thanksgiving. The, the game that we got Thanksgiving is.

[Adam Mazer]

No, it was the week before that.

[Jamie]

With the zero targets when St. Brown got hurt. Yeah, like two games prior. That was awesome. Last week was awesome. This week should be awesome. I don't know. Number two receiver rest of the way at worst.

[Adam Mazer]

All right, worryometer on zay flowers.

[Heath Cummings]

7.

[Jamie]

I mean, it's got to be a close to a 10. Like, you know, you're coming off a game against Cincinnati where the offense looked bad, he did not play well. I think if the touchdown counts, we feel a little bit better about it. But still, that's just one big play. So this is, this is a big week. You know, you have him on your team, you're locked into a playoff spot. You want to see him come out and play well against the secondary. That's been awful majority of the season, like go out and dominate. But I think in the, in the context of how he's performed and how Lamar Jackson is struggling right now. Like, I don't know how you can say, oh, I feel great about this. So it's, it's, you know, he might be the guy that we've talked about so far in terms of potential. Must start guys that I'm the most worried about.

[Adam Mazer]

So. Week 13 against Cincinnati, two catches for six yards on seven targets. Couple things. First of all, we always talk about Cincinnati being surprisingly good against wide receivers. D.J. turner is having a great year for Cincinnati and he shadowed Zay flowers. He is PFF's second highest graded cornerback in their coverage grade. He's a Pro bowl snub. Right now they're talking about that. Like the votes, I guess the votes are coming out, whatever. And DJ Turner feels like he should get more attention. So there's that. But also, it was the first game all year where Zay Flowers had seven or more targets and didn't score 14 fantasy points. And that is the magic number for him. He pretty much never does well when he doesn't get seven targets in his career. And he usually does well when he does so. But he had that touchdown callback. So annoying. So anyway, I like you look at, they have Cincinnati, they have New England, they have Green Bay. After this Pittsburgh game, are these opportunities for Lamar Jackson to throw 30 or more passes and seven of them or more go to Zay Flowers. That's usually a winning formula.

[Jamie]

Only there. Sorry, go ahead.

[Heath Cummings]

No, I go. You go ahead.

[Jamie]

I mean, it's definitely there. But, you know, think about the teams you just mentioned. Like, there's some pretty solid cornerback play from the Patriots, from the Bengals, because we just saw it. And Lamar throwing 30 passes. This version of Lamar does not feel like 30 passes is great for anybody.

[Adam Mazer]

That's true.

[Jamie]

Yeah. All right, so I think you just treat him as a number three receiver. And, you know, depending on what your team looks like. You know, I mentioned my FFT open league team, you know, which I have three great running backs and now Terry McLaurin and now potentially Mike Evans. But Zay Flowers was supposed to be. Because I lost Garrett Wilson, but, you know, Zay Flower was supposed to be a starter for me every week, and I don't feel good about that at all.

[Adam Mazer]

Yeah, it sucks. Who's leading the NFL in Pro bowl votes?

[Jamie]

This is the fan voting.

[Adam Mazer]

Yeah, I guess.

[Jamie]

Not the player voting.

[Adam Mazer]

Yes, fan voting.

[Jamie]

The player voting. Yep.

[Adam Mazer]

Fan, fan.

[Jamie]

Oh, I'm sorry. Fan voting. Who's leading?

[Adam Mazer]

How'd you know that he's what? How'd you know that?

[Heath Cummings]

This is a complete guess.

[Adam Mazer]

Drake May.

[Heath Cummings]

I mean, he's the current MVP favorite and he's the hot new thing.

[Adam Mazer]

He's pretty good.

[Jamie]

I would have thought it would be something like a little out there. Like, still Kelsey because of Taylor Swift or you maybe like Sugar Sanders.

[Adam Mazer]

JSN is second from what I'm seeing, so it's.

[Jamie]

It's somewhat relevant.

[Adam Mazer]

Yeah. Oh, for sure. Okay. Sorry. Some. A few more players on the worryometers. We did Zay flowers, Stefan Diggs. Worryometer.

[Jamie]

5.

[Heath Cummings]

Yes. Six or seven.

[Adam Mazer]

Oh, seven.

[Jamie]

You gotta stop. I. I think for. For him. You know, you mentioned the past attempts, like, we want to see Drake made a shootout.

[Adam Mazer]

Yeah. So I was looking at that and unfortunately, it's all about this route participation rate for. For Stefan Diggs. Right. Sometimes it's pretty high, sometimes it's like 50% if there's not really a correlation. From what I've seen of his route participation rate and the score, you know, some of his highest route participation rates for Stefan Diggs have been in blowout wins. But either way, you're right. I mean, we want Drake Mayhem, and I think we got the chance for that. Right. With Buffalo and Baltimore coming out of the buy. So that'd be great.

[Jamie]

Buffalo, yes. I mean, again, which version of Baltimore are we getting?

[Adam Mazer]

Are we overlooking the fact that they had two touchdowns erased? Baltimore, like, no, you know, I said.

[Jamie]

That to you that, you know, the overreaction for Lamar Jackson was going to be a little wild because of, you know, how the poor plays were highlighted. But the. The positive plays were taken away. 50 yard pass was dropped, two touchdowns were taken off the board. So, yes, there's probably a little bit of that as well. I also think for Stefan Diggs, and I'm not saying this with any certainty, but we had three and a half games of Keisha Booty not there. And Diggs, I'm guessing, play. I know he scored two touchdowns in three of those. So, like, how much of that matters too? Like, there's now another mouth to feed in this offense. That's a pretty prominent one for the. What the Patriots do.

[Adam Mazer]

The Chargers wide receivers. The worryometer on the chargers wide receivers.

[Jamie]

Eight collectively. I think eight is fair. Individually, Lad McConkey is basically Javante Williams. Kyron Williams, like, I'm starting him every week. I don't care. The other two are borderline starters at best. And especially this week with the uncertainty of Herbert's hand, you know, I'm not confident in any of them.

[Adam Mazer]

They've also been involved in a Lot of blowouts lately and they've barely thrown the ball. Whether it's been getting blown out by Jacksonville or big games, big win. 27 point win against Minnesota. 7 point win at Tennessee. Feel that game may have been kind of close. 15 point game against Pittsburgh. 17 point win against Las Vegas. So Justin Herbert, his past Attempts have been 25, 29, 33, 18 and 20. You got to keep that in mind. They're not gonna, they're gonna be in more normal game scripts. You just, you'd have to think Philadelphia at Kansas City at Dallas.

[Heath Cummings]

It kind of feels like they've just like they had this thing the first month or six weeks of the season where Justin Herbert was throwing the ball a lot and they've kind of in the second half gone back to their roots. And this has been more. And I think with Hampton coming back, if he's right, that's probably what they, they do with the offensive line as it is, they can't protect Justin Herbert.

[Jamie]

And he's got a broken hand.

[Adam Mazer]

It's true. I just, just to be optimistic about it, they have played some of the worst offenses in football in the last five games without not including Jack. But again, it's Minnesota, Tennessee, Pittsburgh and Las Vegas. And their next three games are Philadelphia, which is bad, you know, 20th or so and I don't know, 18th in points. Whatever they are Kansas City, Dallas and then Houston.

[Jamie]

Well, I think also just, you know, that and it makes sense because, you know, looking at like Vidal last week, his best games have come when they've been either blowing out teams or heavy favorites going into that, which I'm sure coincides with both. So it's why I liked him this week, because they were nine and a half point favorites. Like, you know, that's, I think, a good formula for their run game. Now they're going to be, I don't, I don't know what the spread is. I'm sorry. But they might be home underdogs against Philly. Wouldn't surprise me.

[Adam Mazer]

I wonder if there even is a spread because we don't know their quarterback is.

[Jamie]

But let's. Oh, that's true. Yeah. It might be off the board right now.

[Adam Mazer]

It's Chargers plus three. So Eagles are three point favorites.

[Jamie]

Yeah. So that's not the type of setup you want for whoever the running back is there, especially with the uncertainty around it. But I think if Herbert's healthy, there's a chance for him to play well. But this Eagles defense has just been amazing and now you have this hand injury plus the offensive line, plus the Eagles coming off a loss. Like there's just a lot to fear with Justin Herbert.

[Adam Mazer]

All right, we're gonna take a break here. We'll finish up this segment, we'll preview Thursday night. We'll play some jeopardy when we come back on Fantasy football today.

[Von Miller]

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[Adam Mazer]

All?

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[Adam Mazer]

How you guys doing? I feel like we've been very businesslike today. How's life? We've been up to.

[Jamie]

Life is great.

[Adam Mazer]

Can you believe it's December already? It's so weird that it's the home stretch of the season when we start. We'll be studying wide receiver prospects pretty soon anyway.

[Heath Cummings]

I just had had Matthew Rupert from Couch scouts on FFT Dynasty yesterday talking about the 2026 rookie class and what are we thinking? Get excited.

[Adam Mazer]

Get it? Yeah. Not quarterback, but man, wide receiver looks pretty good, right?

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, it's not as good as next year, but I, I think it's better than last year and got a. At least one really good running back. Probably two or three. At least one really good tight end.

[Adam Mazer]

Nice. All right. Okay, let's get back to the pumped up O meter. People are pumped up about Baker Mayfield with Mike Evans returning. Are you guys pumped up about Baker Mayfield with Mike Evans returning?

[Jamie]

Yes.

[Heath Cummings]

Probably a four.

[Adam Mazer]

Oh, that's it.

[Heath Cummings]

I mean, I, let's, let's see what Mike Evans looks like.

[Adam Mazer]

He's pretty tall. He's.

[Heath Cummings]

Oh, right. He's. I mean, I'm glad that he's coming back and I, I'm, I'm hopeful for Baker, but I'd like to see Mike Evans in action before I get too excited.

[Adam Mazer]

I'll give you another down downer here on Baker. That last four. I'll take away the Rams game. Right. Last four games, 24 pass attempts at New Orleans, 43 pass attempts against New England and he had a great game. 28 pass attempts at Buffalo. Windy game was playing okay. Fumbled on the last snap of the game or he would have had a 20 point game. 21 points, 28 pass attempts against Arizona. Not throwing a lot. They come out, they've got New Orleans, Atlanta at Carolina at Miami in their next four games, are they gonna throw this? They actually want to run the ball, maybe getting well, I mean, you also.

[Jamie]

Have Baker dealing with the shoulder injury, so that's part of it. And I think in the case of what I like about Baker, a few things. He's been better at home than on the road, and his four of his last five games were on the road. I think you look at his history against New Orleans, this was his worst game ever as a member of Tampa Bay facing them in week eight. You get Mike Evans back, you get Jalen Millen back, like, this could be the best receiving core in the NFL if they're all right with what Abuka was doing. And, you know, if Chris Godwin starts to build off what he did last week, like, could be an unstoppable offense, you know. So for me, like, I'm. I'm excited to see what Baker can do. So your point about will they want to run the ball? Yes. That's certainly a big factor in all of this. But, you know, I still think, like, he could have a lot more efficient games. And, you know, I know Heath's point of doubting Baker coming in the season was the touchdown regression. Maybe we get a little bit more of that to close the season. Like, the. The positive side of that, where he's just, you know, not necessarily having a lot of attempts, but he's getting the end zone quite a bit. Like, I think we feel a little different about him. If Godwin catches that touchdown last week, he has Rashad White touchdown pass called off, you know, call back. You know, so there were some things. It's kind of similar to Lamar, like, you know, Baker's numbers could have been much better.

[Adam Mazer]

I think we can end our worryometer pumped up o meter segment there, and we can transition into our big topic, which is Dallas at Detroit Thursday Night Football. Now.

[Jamie]

Your face is the best.

[Adam Mazer]

Okay. All right, let's go to our updated stat of the game. Still, only one running back has scored more than 16 PPR fantasy points against the Lions. It was Quinton Judkins. And Tyrone Tracy Jr. Is the only running back to score more than 11.8 fantasy points in PPR against the Lions in their last eight games. Oh, my goodness. And we got Javante Williams. So look, let's. Okay. Dak Prescott is a slam dunk. He's top three. Jared Golf is top five. I believe even without Aman Ross St. Brown, the matchup is amazing. And you know, start Lamb, start Pickens, start Jameson Williams, start Jameer Gibbs. But let's talk about Javante Williams and Heath, your expectations for Javante, do you like him this week against Detroit?

[Heath Cummings]

I'm starting him this week against Detroit. I don't like the matchup and I'll probably, I think I've got him a little higher than where I'll have him when I do my midweek adjustment. But I think he's an RB2 and you expect that he's going to touch the ball more than 15 times and it's probably going to be the highest scoring game of the week. The, the big thing for the Lions is they just haven't given up touchdowns to running backs over that stretch where you said nobody scored 11.8 PPR points. There's going to be a lot of touchdowns in this game. We think hopefully Javante gets one of them.

[Adam Mazer]

He's had a lot of tough matchups this year. You know, he's had great game at Philadelphia, great game against Green Bay. Let's see. Great game at Denver, bad at Las Vegas, struggle the second time against Philadelphia. Great game against Kansas City. I say great. I'm just talking about fantasy points. And really it's been, does he score? So I think it's kind of what you were saying there. All right, so would you start Javante Williams at Detroit or Travis ETN against the Colts?

[Jamie]

I like ETN better.

[Adam Mazer]

I'd probably go Javante, Javante Williams or Derrick Henry against Pittsburgh. Henry Jalen Warren at Baltimore. Javante Seattle, running back at, let's say Ken Walker at Atlanta. Okay. Jordan Mason if Aaron Jones is out, or Jordan Mason against Washington. This is a tough one.

[Jamie]

Or Javante gotta start Devonte because we won't know.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, definitely Javante.

[Adam Mazer]

Okay, fine. All right, so start. This game is full of starts. How do we feel about Jake? Jake Ferguson.

[Heath Cummings]

I hope I don't have to start him, but he's, he's a very, very borderline top 12 tight end.

[Adam Mazer]

I'm surprised again. I thought you'd be good on him. Sorry, Jamie. I thought you'd be a little more excited about Ferguson.

[Heath Cummings]

I, I, I'm not.

[Jamie]

Okay. I, I think you put him in that group of, maybe they'll be good this week of pits and Ertz and Fanon and Gadsden. You know, there's a lot of questions at some of the, you know, some of the guys that I have been borderline mustard guys. You know, Ferguson has definitely faded since the George Pickens CD Lamb emergence. When Lamb came Back and again, it's, you know, kind of similar to the quarterbacks. If Ferguson gets his right foot down last week, we probably feel much better about him because he would have scored and you know, continued or at least had a, you know, a positive game. It's just been frustrating because he was so amazing at the start of the season. Now he's just held off.

[Heath Cummings]

I. I would start Juwan Johnson, Dalton Schultz and Britain Strange all over him.

[Jamie]

I agree.

[Adam Mazer]

Okay. I just thought. I just figured you'd want to. Every piece of this game as you possibly can. 54 and a half point total is insane.

[Jamie]

Is that I don't think. And correct me if I'm wrong, the star percentage doesn't reflect this. But I don't think most people that have Jake Ferguson have been searching for other options.

[Adam Mazer]

Yeah, probably not. He's staying afloat since Lamb came back. Other than a donut at Denver. You know, it's huge game against Washington. Lamb's first game back. And then 10 points, 11.6, 11.1, 8.6. With five to seven targets in all of those games since Lamb came back. Okay, Jared Goff, how about. Would you start both quarterbacks in this game over Joe Burrow at Buffalo?

[Jamie]

I would. Yes.

[Adam Mazer]

Josh over Josh Allen against Cincinnati?

[Jamie]

Nope. Allen's number one.

[Adam Mazer]

Can't ask you. Drake May. He's on a buy.

[Jamie]

I saw both of them over Mahomes.

[Adam Mazer]

I would too, against Houston. Okay, that makes sense. Stafford at Arizona or quarterback in this game?

[Jamie]

Dax Stafford Golf for me.

[Heath Cummings]

I have Stafford Dak Golf, but they're two through four, so.

[Adam Mazer]

All right, start it up. Any interest in David Montgomery?

[Jamie]

No. Non ppr, borderline. Number two, running back, full ppr, no flex at best. Last week was great that he scored eight carries, 32 yards. Like no touchdown. You're disappointed there.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, it just flex.

[Adam Mazer]

And even if you get the touchdown in the full PPR league, he doesn't even score 13 points when he scores twice. This year he scored more than 13.1 fantasy points. And remember this Dallas run defense has gotten a lot better since acquiring Quinn and Williams and Mac Wilson. I don't really have much. Oh, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Jamie]

Who?

[Adam Mazer]

Not Mack Wilson. Logan Wilson.

[Jamie]

Logan Wilson.

[Adam Mazer]

Yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

This is just an enormous game. I don't think anybody thought that we'd have the Lions playing a must win game in Week 14. But it's going to be really, really difficult. We've got several of these games. Chief sticks in the same way. It's going to be really, really difficult for whoever loses this game to make the playoffs and whoever wins it is in a lot better shape we give it.

[Jamie]

I think in the case of the Cowboys, and I'm not saying this with anything certainly, but certainty, but the Cowboys and even the Texans, if they both lose this, we can still manage to win the division. The Lions lose this, they're in a lot of trouble. And the Chiefs are in a lot of trouble.

[Adam Mazer]

If the Cowboys win this game, they go 7, 5 and 1. If the Eagles lose at the Chargers Monday, they're 8 and 5. That would be unbelievable that this, that division could be within a half a game and then once again, we could once again not have a team repeat as NFC east champions. But we can't finish this game without talking about Isaac Tesla and Tom Kennedy and Jamie. Where, where do you have these guys ranked, Tesla and Kennedy?

[Jamie]

Yeah, I haven't ranked Kennedy. I'll have to put him in the top 150. But Tesla, I'm excited about. You know, I, I think he's going to be on the field a lot. I think there's an opportunity for him to, you know, showcase his skills. They were very excited about him coming out of camp and just haven't really needed him to do very much because of what the receiving core is in the offense that they run. But I think he's gonna be on the field, you know, running plenty of routes and you know, we've talked about this quite a bit, certainly yesterday on the waiver wire show that the way that they used him after St. Brown went out is going to be different than how they use him this week because now they're gonna feature him more and the same with Kennedy. But I, I think just for me, I'm gonna buy into the, you know, prospect and hope that Tesla scores another touchdown and maybe does a little bit more with it. So as I said yesterday, I'll say the same thing. The ceiling is immense, the floor is non existent. So knowing that there's going to be a lot of points in this game, knowing that there's going to be probably a lot of past attempts on both sides, certainly from golf, I'm going to take my chances on him. I picked him up in a few leagues. I'm excited to start him in a few weeks as well.

[Heath Cummings]

I would, and I don't know if this is consensus or not, but I'd still rather Flex Montgomery than one of the other Lions wide receivers.

[Adam Mazer]

Okay.

[Jamie]

Yeah, I, I would, I would say for me, from a floor standpoint, yes, like the, the chance of 11 PPR points is certainly better for Montgomery than it is for Tesla. But the upside for me would favor the receivers.

[Adam Mazer]

You wouldn't start Tesla overall like Brian Thomas Jr. Would you?

[Jamie]

I would. You would? Heath?

[Heath Cummings]

I would not.

[Adam Mazer]

Just so everyone knows, here's kind of what happened in the game last week when Aman Ross St. Brown went out. When you just talk about the roles that they played. Isaac Tesla who always runs deep routes, he had an, a very high average route depth. 11, 11 yards. A little bit more than 11 yards. Tom Kennedy was the 8.6 average yards average route. Now whatever. Jameson Williams though, and if you've listened to me, you know I hate guys with high average route depths. I cannot stand it. And it's held Jameson Williams back. He had a season low average route depth. So I love that. I'm obviously everyone's starting JMO this week. It's like it's a no brainer but that's a great thing. Like he basically changed his role and Isaac Tesla sort of took the Jameson Williams role and just. Well it did. What he usually does is run deep, browse with random all the time, is on the field all the time. But Jameson Williams, like that was great. We didn't have to rely on him, you know, having a big play. So that's what, that's, you know, that's what scares me about Tesla because guys who have high average route depths are, are kind of boomer bust. But it's also what can get you excited about him because especially this week. Yeah, the Cowboys, right? I mean the Cowboys, they had some injuries in their secondary. It looks like those guys are going to be okay. Daron Bland and, and Malik Hooker, but they've been a lot better with eliminating the deep ball since like mid season basically. But it's still, it's still the Cowboys, they give up the most fantasy points to wide receivers. So if we have any Tesla questions in the chat, go for it and if not, we'll move on. I'll try to come up with some right now. How about Tesla or Bears running backs? Full ppr.

[Jamie]

Bears running backs?

[Heath Cummings]

Yep.

[Adam Mazer]

Tesla or Trey Tucker against Denver?

[Jamie]

Tesla.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah, I should probably put Tesla ahead of him.

[Adam Mazer]

Tesla or Zay Flowers against Pittsburgh?

[Jamie]

Flowers. Flowers are safer.

[Heath Cummings]

How about and, and in fairness, like Flowers is kind of just the, the name brand version of what we're hoping from for Tesla this week. Like I still think at any given week the switch could just flip back on for Lamar and, and Flowers could have one of those 25 point games and then go back to scoring 10 and 11 again.

[Jamie]

And just as good a matchup too.

[Adam Mazer]

Okay, I got some Tesla questions here. Tesla or Rivian?

[Jamie]

Very funny.

[Adam Mazer]

Tesla or Roma Dunze or Ameka Abuca.

[Jamie]

You can't put those guys in the same sentence.

[Heath Cummings]

Okay, not Tesla.

[Adam Mazer]

Tesla or Taije Spears.

[Jamie]

So again, this is kind of similar to Tesla versus David Montgomery. Like you know what you're getting, and it's probably going to be seven or seven to nine PPR points for Spears. I would take the upside of Tesla, and as a matter of fact, I'm doing that in one league. I'm starting. I was stuck with bye weeks that I was going to start Spears as a flex. I picked up Tesla.

[Adam Mazer]

I'm starting Tesla or Quentin Johnston.

[Jamie]

Same thing. You're talking about a very similar type of player. I'll take Tesla.

[Heath Cummings]

I'll take Justin.

[Adam Mazer]

Yeah, the thing is, I don't know that we're gonna know that Justin Herbert is playing by Thursday because they have. They have a Monday game. So. Yeah, if you're telling me it's Trey Lance. I'll. I'll take. I'll take. I'll take Kennedy over.

[Jamie]

Over.

[Adam Mazer]

I don't even know if I'm joking there.

[Heath Cummings]

I mean, Kennedy might be better than Tesla.

[Adam Mazer]

Yeah, it's true. He was last. No, Tesla caught the touchdown. What does Tesla have? He has three touchdowns on six catches this year.

[Jamie]

Yep.

[Adam Mazer]

It's wild.

[Jamie]

He hasn't had a game with more than two targets. It's very risky. But again, as. As I said yesterday, it's matchup. It's opportunity, it's offense. Like, there's a lot to love about what the situation could be.

[Adam Mazer]

It's fun. It's fun. What a dice roll.

[Heath Cummings]

You have Tesla ahead of or behind Adnai Mitchell ahead of.

[Jamie]

And I. I had that as a waiver wire ad too.

[Adam Mazer]

All right, that's it for Thursday night football. Sit the DSTs we've on. We move on to fantasy. Nah. Now we move on to fantasy. Jeopardy. We've got three. Yes. He's got no.

[Heath Cummings]

I'm buzzing it. Ready?

[Adam Mazer]

Oh, okay. All right, Good. All right, buzz in by saying your names. No daily double. You don't lose points for wrong guesses. I got to get my wrong buzzer sound effect up. Three categories Today we have quarterbacks, pass catchers, as usual, and Christmas movies for 200, 400, and 600 dollary dues. And I'm ready. I have queued up. Okay, here we go.

[Jamie]

Just so I'm aware, for the Christmas movies, this is your definition of Christmas Movies.

[Adam Mazer]

They're Christmas movies.

[Jamie]

Okay. All right. So the. The. The Jewish guy against the non Jewish guy and the guy who doesn't know how to define Christmas movies. It'll be a lot.

[Adam Mazer]

There you go. Yeah, but also it's like the guy who's seen a lot of movies versus the guy. I'm not quite sure you see that many movies.

[Heath Cummings]

I've seen a lot of movies. I just don't. It's like I watched the movie and then it's gone.

[Adam Mazer]

I'm not optimistic about Heath in the Christmas movie category, but we will see.

[Heath Cummings]

Christmas movies for 600. You sure?

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Adam Mazer]

All right. Christmas movies for 600 in A Christmas Story. This was from Buzzfeed. By the way, this particular question. In A Christmas Story, what gift does Ralphie receive from his aunt Heath?

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

BB gun.

[Adam Mazer]

Love the confidence. Love the confidence.

[Heath Cummings]

That's the only gift I remember him getting.

[Adam Mazer]

What gift does Ralphie receive from his aunt? Aunt. Aunt.

[Jamie]

No idea.

[Adam Mazer]

A pink bunny suit.

[Heath Cummings]

Ah, yeah, I do remember that. Now. He also got a. He also got a BB gun, right?

[Jamie]

From.

[Adam Mazer]

He did. I don't know who he got it from, but yeah, he did get a BB gun. I feel like I should get a.

[Heath Cummings]

Half a point if I should get 300 points for that.

[Adam Mazer]

No, I don't think so. Next. His sport is still yours. He. Even though I never gave it to.

[Jamie]

You, he would give that to you if close in the score to make it. Yeah, right.

[Heath Cummings]

He would give that to somebody else if I was way ahead in the final round.

[Adam Mazer]

You know what? I'm gonna give it to Jamie.

[Jamie]

Jamie.

[Heath Cummings]

You get 300 Christmas movies for 400.

[Adam Mazer]

This is what the bad guys in Home Alone call themselves.

[Jamie]

Oh my God, Heath.

[Heath Cummings]

The Wet Bandits.

[Adam Mazer]

Hey, he is on the board with full 400 points. All right, board's yours.

[Heath Cummings]

Christmas movies for 200, please.

[Adam Mazer]

This is the club that Clark Griswold is given a free year of membership to in Christmas vacation.

[Jamie]

Really?

[Adam Mazer]

Jv.

[Jamie]

I remember.

[Adam Mazer]

It's the gift that keeps on giving all year long. Heath.

[Heath Cummings]

I don't remember. The Honey Bay Cam Club.

[Adam Mazer]

Not bad. The Jelly of the Month club. All right, we've got quarterbacks and pass catchers for two forward. 600.

[Heath Cummings]

By the way, Thomas got 200 points in the chat. He got that one right.

[Adam Mazer]

Yeah, baby. Good job.

[Heath Cummings]

So pass catchers and what?

[Adam Mazer]

Quarterbacks.

[Heath Cummings]

Okay, let's go with quarterbacks for 200, please.

[Adam Mazer]

He is the number two quarterback per game in six point per passing touchdown leagues behind Josh Allen.

[Jamie]

Jamie.

[Adam Mazer]

Jamie.

[Jamie]

Matthew Stafford.

[Heath Cummings]

Heath, who is Patrick Mahomes.

[Adam Mazer]

Correct. Patrick Mahomes. Jamie, don't forget to answer in the form of a question or I will kick you off the stream.

[Jamie]

Oh no.

[Adam Mazer]

He's here.

[Heath Cummings]

Up quarterbacks for 400, please.

[Adam Mazer]

He leads all quarterbacks in off target rate.

[Heath Cummings]

Heath.

[Adam Mazer]

Heath.

[Heath Cummings]

Who is Caleb Williams?

[Adam Mazer]

Okay, this game is just about over. Heath has. Let's see. 600,000 now.

[Jamie]

We got.

[Adam Mazer]

We got a lot of bunnies still on the board. Jamie, you better get moving here though. A thousand for Heath. Jamie got nothing.

[Heath Cummings]

Heath quarterbacks for 600.

[Adam Mazer]

He leads all quarterbacks in EPA per drop back. EPA per drop back. And three.

[Jamie]

Heath.

[Adam Mazer]

Heath.

[Heath Cummings]

Who is Matthew Stafford?

[Adam Mazer]

Just take a guess.

[Jamie]

Jamie Drake Bay.

[Adam Mazer]

Hey, Jamie's on the board. Nice work. It is Drake just.

[Heath Cummings]

He did not. He did not answer in the form of a question.

[Adam Mazer]

Oh, you can't give it to him. You're absolutely right. He's still got zero. But it is Drake May.

[Jamie]

And I was spending all my money already.

[Adam Mazer]

Who. Who's second behind Drake May? Just behind him is Jordan Love.

[Jamie]

All right.

[Adam Mazer]

Pass catchers. Heath, you still have the board because Jamie cheated.

[Heath Cummings]

Pass catchers for 600.

[Adam Mazer]

600. Wow. This NFC north wide receiver leads all wide receivers in yak per catch.

[Jamie]

Jamie.

[Adam Mazer]

Jamie.

[Jamie]

Christian Watson.

[Heath Cummings]

Heath.

[Adam Mazer]

Heath.

[Heath Cummings]

Why can I only think of three teams in the NFC north right now? I think I literally just lost one of the teams.

[Adam Mazer]

Green Bay, Detroit, Chicago and Minnesota.

[Heath Cummings]

Minnesota. Yeah, that's. That's all of them.

[Adam Mazer]

Who leads in yak per catch?

[Heath Cummings]

Heath, Luther Burton.

[Adam Mazer]

This one shocked me. It's Jameson Williams. Jameson Williams is averaging 8.7 yards after the catch per reception. Amazing.

[Heath Cummings]

It had to be a low catch guy, but.

[Adam Mazer]

All right, four. Well, I mean, I guess it could have been burden. I did like a.

[Jamie]

No.

[Adam Mazer]

He has 35 targets.

[Jamie]

Right.

[Adam Mazer]

I did a 35 target.

[Heath Cummings]

Yeah. It's not. It's not burden.

[Adam Mazer]

Okay. He leads all to. Oh, sorry. $400. He leads all tight ends and touchdowns.

[Jamie]

Oh, my God.

[Heath Cummings]

Heath.

[Jamie]

Heath.

[Heath Cummings]

Trey mcbride.

[Jamie]

There's some of the more than mcbride.

[Adam Mazer]

Who is Trey McBride.

[Jamie]

Yep. You didn't do it.

[Adam Mazer]

You didn't.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

Okay, so it's either 1400 to 600 or a thousand to zero.

[Adam Mazer]

It's a thousand to zero. We're going to break the rules. You're not going to get points in my game. Last one. Pass Catchers for $200. We need the form of a question here. The amount of wide receivers with more touchdown catches than the Tennessee Titans.

[Jamie]

The amount of wide receivers.

[Adam Mazer]

Yeah. Who have more touchdown catches than The Titans.

[Jamie]

Heath.

[Adam Mazer]

Heath.

[Heath Cummings]

73.

[Adam Mazer]

73 wide receivers. No. Then the team. Titans.

[Heath Cummings]

I know.

[Jamie]

Oh, It's not who. So what is 17?

[Adam Mazer]

Only three. Three wide receivers have more touchdown catches than the entire.

[Jamie]

Oh, I'm sorry. I'm missed.

[Adam Mazer]

Yeah, I think you both did. What were you thinking there?

[Heath Cummings]

No, that's what I thought.

[Adam Mazer]

Oh, you thought 70. They have seven touchdown catches and three wide receivers have more than that. Devonte Adams, Amon Ross, St. Brown, and. And George Pickens. That was a pretty lackluster round of fantasy Jeopardy. But not your fault. I blame myself. Yeah.

[Heath Cummings]

I mean, I feel pretty good about it.

[Adam Mazer]

I'm glad you got the Wet Bandits, Thomas. I know you know the. The Wet Bandits. Did you know the pink bunny suit?

[Heath Cummings]

I did not know.

[Adam Mazer]

Okay. Did you know the other ones?

[Jamie]

The.

[Adam Mazer]

The football ones?

[Heath Cummings]

Every football one.

[Adam Mazer]

No, not everyone.

[Jamie]

I have a Jeopardy Question for you.

[Heath Cummings]

Okay.

[Jamie]

The category is the hosts.

[Adam Mazer]

Oh, he.

[Heath Cummings]

Who is Adam Mazer winner.

[Adam Mazer]

Oh, man. All right. That was fun, everybody. Hope you enjoyed our Wednesday programming. We'll talk to you tomorrow with starters. Sit for the AFC home games. Get out there and vote. The 64.com voting period is pretty brief. So you know, if you have a second today, please football team. We'll talk to you tomorrow later. Foreign.

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