Baller Trust Exercise + It’s Mailbag Time!

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Episode Summary: "Baller Trust Exercise + It’s Mailbag Time!"

Release Date: February 20, 2020

In this engaging episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright dive into a unique trust exercise with their listeners, discuss the latest fantasy football news, and tackle a variety of listener-submitted questions in their mailbag segment. Skipping the usual advertisements and intros, the trio focuses on delivering insightful analysis, strong opinions, and actionable advice to help listeners dominate their fantasy leagues.

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Trust Exercise: Testing the Foot Clan's Trust

The episode kicks off with Andy Holloway introducing a series of trust-based polls he conducted on Twitter, aiming to gauge the Foot Clan's (the podcast’s listener base) trust and preferences among the hosts.

1. Co-Pilot in a Fighter Jet

   • Poll Question: Who would you choose as your co-pilot if in the cockpit of a fighter jet?
   • Results:
     • Andy Holloway: 32%
     • Jason Moore: 26%
     • Mike Wright: 24%
     • Brooks: 18%
   • Notable Quote:
     • Andy Holloway (00:40): “I would have picked Brooks myself. I just feel like, you know, you're a pretty calm dude, and I think I'm going to need a calm mind back there.”

2. Choosing a Godparent

   • Poll Question: Who should be the godparent of your children?
   • Results:
     • Jason Moore: 41%
     • Andy Holloway: 35%
     • Mike Wright: 24%
     • Brooks: 8%
   • Notable Quote:
     • Jason Moore (05:06): “For.”

3. Survival in a Zombie-Infested Prison

   • Poll Question: Who would you want with you if stuck in an abandoned prison with zombies on the loose?
   • Results:
     • Mike Wright: 53%
     • Jason Moore: 21%
     • Andy Holloway: 35%
     • Brooks: 33%
   • Notable Quote:
     • Mike Wright (05:33): “I want myself.”

4. Navigating When Lost at Sea

   • Poll Question: Who would you rely on to navigate your way home if lost at sea?
   • Results:
     • Andy Holloway: 47%
     • Jason Moore: 35%
     • Mike Wright: 33%
     • Brooks: 8%
   • Notable Quote:
     • Andy Holloway (06:12): “I think that was he this past year.”

5. Surgeon’s Assistant During a Critical Surgery

   • Poll Question: Who would have the steadiest hands to take over tools mid-surgery?
   • Results:
     • Mike Wright: 47%
     • Andy Holloway: 35%
     • Jason Moore: 21%
     • Brooks: 8%
   • Notable Quote:
     • Mike Wright (07:25): “I think he (Mike) can totally repair my heart. I think I have real good, like minute dexterity.”

Summary of Trust Exercise: The results indicated that Andy Holloway often emerged as the most trusted member, particularly in critical situations, while both Jason Moore and Mike Wright were frequently chosen for their specific skills, albeit with less overall preference. Brooks, a recurring guest, consistently received the least votes, leading to playful banter among the hosts about his fate in hypothetical scenarios.

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Fantasy Football News and Analysis

After the trust exercise, the hosts transition into a comprehensive discussion of the latest fantasy football news, touching on significant developments and their implications for the upcoming season.

1. Drew Brees Returns to the Saints

   • Discussion Points:
     • Drew Brees announced his return for the 2020 season via Instagram.
     • Impact on the Saints’ cap space and potential need for contract restructuring.
     • Benefits for key players like Michael Thomas and overall team performance.
   • Notable Quote:
     • Jason Moore (10:01): “Well, the Tayson Hill as the franchise quarterback era was short and fun, but yes, Drew Brees is back.”

2. Taysom Hill and Teddy Bridgewater Situation

   • Taysom Hill:
     • Likely to receive a first or second-round tender from the Saints.
     • Unlikely to be a starter given the abundance of quality free-agent quarterbacks.
   • Teddy Bridgewater:
     • Expected to be out of the Saints and could fetch upwards of $30 million per year.
     • Provides a reliable fantasy option amidst a stable quarterback market.
   • Notable Quote:
     • Mike Wright (12:04): “He is a thorn in the butt cheeks of fantasy football players everywhere. But he's great for the team.”

3. Greg Olson’s Potential Move to Seattle Seahawks

   • Rumor: Greg Olson might sign a one-year, $7 million contract with the Seahawks.
   • Implications:
     • Olson’s role as a tight end and his potential fantasy output.
     • Comparisons to other tight ends and his current standing in the league.
   • Notable Quote:
     • Jason Moore (13:18): “He's a decent tight end right now. He's still quality as far as well-rounded, a decent run blocker.”

4. Nicknaming Will Daryl "Big Montana"

   • Context: Discussion on rebranding Will Daryl, originally nicknamed "Uncle Will," to "Big Montana" based on his origins and physical presence.
   • Notable Quote:
     • Andy Holloway (15:10): “We rebranded him Big Montana, but without looking it up.”

5. Adrian Peterson’s 2020 Option with the Redskins

   • Update: Redskins have exercised Adrian Peterson’s 2020 option.
   • Implications for Fantasy:
     • Provides insurance for Darius Slay and adds depth to the running back position.
   • Notable Quote:
     • Andy Holloway (16:00): “He will be back with Washington. This is not a surprise.”

6. Tom Brady and the Raiders Rumor

   • Report: Longtime reporter Larry Fitzgerald Sr. claims the Raiders are preparing to offer Tom Brady a two-year, $60 million contract.
   • Discussion Points:
     • Risks associated with signing a player of Brady’s age.
     • Impact on the Patriots’ roster and future planning.
   • Notable Quote:
     • Jason Moore (17:02): “Two years, $60 million, that's not an outlandish contract.”

7. Leonard Fournette’s Fifth-Year Option with the Jaguars

   • Update: The Jaguars are undecided on picking up Leonard Fournette’s fifth-year option, a $10.1 million hit.
   • Implications:
     • Financial considerations and his role in the Jaguars’ offense.
   • Notable Quote:
     • Mike Wright (18:50): “He's going to be back this year.”

8. Jordan Reed’s Concussion Protocol Status

   • Update: Jordan Reed remains in the concussion protocol with the Redskins, sparking concern about his future.
   • Notable Quote:
     • Jason Moore (19:53): “We loved Jordan Reed. Rule 86. He is. He's in the hall of Fame.”

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Mailbag: Listener Questions and Expert Responses

The mailbag segment features a variety of listener-submitted questions covering topics from dynasty league decisions to etiquette at NFL games. The hosts provide thoughtful and often humorous takes on each inquiry.

1. Duet Album with an NFL Player

   • Listener Question: If you had to produce a duet album with any current NFL player, who would it be and why?
   • Responses:
     • Jason Moore: Chooses JuJu Smith-Schuster for a fun collaboration, joking about their potential chemistry.
       • Jason Moore (20:32): “A duet. And that would be me and my man Juju.”
     • Andy Holloway: Opts for a collaboration with Stefon Diggs, highlighting their camaraderie.
       • Andy Holloway (21:40): “Me and Stefon Diggs, we could take care of things.”
     • Mike Wright: Selects J.J. Watt, appreciating his star power despite doubts about his musical abilities.
       • Mike Wright (22:36): “I'm going with J.J. Watt because he's got star power.”

2. Dynasty League Decision: Odell Beckham Jr. vs. DJ Moore

   • Listener Question: Who would you rather own in a Dynasty league right now, Odell Beckham Jr. or DJ Moore?
   • Responses:
     • Andy Holloway: Prefers Odell Beckham Jr. due to his established performance and potential return to form.
       • Andy Holloway (24:14): “If I had to pick here, I would probably order them. I would take Odell over DJ Moore.”
     • Mike Wright: Also leans towards Odell Beckham Jr., citing his higher floor and proven track record.
       • Mike Wright (25:09): “I agree.”
     • Jason Moore: Echoes the preference for Odell, emphasizing Rodgers over Darnold later.
       • Jason Moore (24:14): “Yeah, give me.”

3. Dynasty Trade: Ezekiel Elliott for Josh Jacobs and a First-Round Pick

   • Listener Question: Would you trade Ezekiel Elliott for Josh Jacobs and the first pick in the 2020 rookie draft in a dynasty league?
   • Responses:
     • Andy Holloway: Strongly supports the trade, viewing it as a favorable move.
       • Andy Holloway (25:22): “That's a big yes.”
     • Mike Wright: Also endorses the trade, appreciating the potential long-term gains.
       • Mike Wright (25:37): “It's an easy yes for me as well.”
     • Jason Moore: Agrees, recognizing Elliott's value but valuing the trade package higher.
       • Jason Moore (25:43): “Yeah, it's an easy yes for me as well.”

4. NFL Game Etiquette: Wearing Opposing Team Colors

   • Listener Question: Is it acceptable to wear Cowboys colors when visiting home stadiums of teams like the Eagles or Giants?
   • Responses:
     • Jason Moore: Advises caution, sharing a negative experience attending a Suns game in opposing colors.
       • Jason Moore (27:04): “I almost died leaving that game. I certainly wish I did not have the jersey on it.”
     • Andy Holloway: Encourages restraint, especially in passionate fanbases like Philadelphia.
       • Andy Holloway (28:15): “You got the Raiders. The Eagles. Oh, yeah.”
     • Mike Wright: Suggests it's generally acceptable but warns against specific rivalries.
       • Mike Wright (28:08): “It's acceptable 100%. It should not be a problem.”

5. Second Best Batman Actor

   • Listener Question: Who is the second-best Batman actor after Michael Keaton?
   • Responses:
     • Jason Moore: Votes for Christian Bale, citing his portrayal in the Dark Knight trilogy.
       • Jason Moore (29:02): “Christian Bale. Yep.”
     • Mike Wright: Agrees with the choice of Christian Bale.
       • Mike Wright (29:01): “Christian Bale might be the best Batman.”
     • Andy Holloway: Initially counters but ultimately concurs with the group consensus.
       • Andy Holloway (29:10): “But I think Christian Bale is the right answer.”

6. Dynasty League Decision: Aaron Rodgers vs. Sam Darnold

   • Listener Question: In a dynasty league, who would you choose: Aaron Rodgers or Sam Darnold?
   • Responses:
     • Andy Holloway: Favors Aaron Rodgers for his consistent high performance.
       • Andy Holloway (31:04): “So I think that Aaron Rodgers is actually still Aaron Rodgers for fantasy next year.”
     • Mike Wright: Supports Rodgers, emphasizing his established success.
       • Mike Wright (32:04): “He's 4,000 yards and 26 touchdowns. That's what Aaron Rodgers did.”
     • Jason Moore: Aligns with teammates, valuing Rodgers' proven track record over Darnold’s potential.
       • Jason Moore (31:09): “Yeah, give me Aaron Rodgers.”

7. Dynasty League Decision: Joe Mixon vs. Josh Jacobs

   • Listener Question: Who would you prefer in a dynasty league, Joe Mixon or Josh Jacobs?
   • Responses:
     • Andy Holloway: Leans towards Joe Mixon due to his potential receiving involvement.
       • Andy Holloway (34:26): “I would throw out under the radar at the tight end position.”
     • Mike Wright: Prefers Joe Mixon, anticipating increased utilization in the passing game.
       • Mike Wright (35:48): “Over Joe Mixon is.”
     • Jason Moore: Agrees, citing potential for Mixon to become a key receiving threat.
       • Jason Moore (35:49): “I would have guessed Odell over DJ Moore.”

8. Dynasty League: Under-the-Radar Players Expected to Leap

   • Listener Question: Who are some under-the-radar players you think will make significant leaps this year?
   • Responses:
     • Jason Moore: Highlights Devin Singletary and Akil Harry as potential breakout stars.
       • Jason Moore (43:07): “I think you can get cheaper than what their actual value will be.”
     • Mike Wright: Suggests targeting tight ends like Jay Stonerberger and Irv Smith for their undervalued potential.
       • Mike Wright (44:04): “I bet you can still get him pretty cheap.”
     • Andy Holloway: Notes Hollywood Brown, albeit acknowledging he may not fit the "under-the-radar" label as strongly.
       • Andy Holloway (43:42): “Is Terry McClure under the radar? No, definitely not.”

9. Bench Spots in Fantasy Leagues

   • Listener Question: How many bench spots are too many in a fantasy league?
   • Responses:
     • Jason Moore: Recommends 5-6 bench spots for a balanced waiver wire.
       • Jason Moore (41:53): “Well, that's going to depend on your league type.”
     • Mike Wright: Agrees with the idea of 6 bench spots, especially when incorporating multiple flex positions.
       • Mike Wright (42:05): “I would say six.”
     • Andy Holloway: Emphasizes the need for balance to prevent roster stagnation.
       • Andy Holloway (42:36): “You want a situation where your waiver wire is not bare.”

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Conclusion

The episode seamlessly weaves a fun trust exercise with essential fantasy football insights, demonstrating the hosts' expertise and chemistry. From evaluating player performances and potential trades to addressing listener inquiries with both humor and depth, Andy, Jason, and Mike provide a comprehensive resource for fantasy football enthusiasts. Whether you're navigating your dynasty league roster or seeking advice on player valuations, this episode delivers valuable content to help you succeed in your league.

Notable Quotes:

• Andy Holloway (00:06): “There's between eight and nine days left before March 1.”
• Jason Moore (05:06): “For.”
• Mike Wright (05:33): “That's me.”
• Andy Holloway (16:00): “He will be back with Washington.”
• Jason Moore (17:02): “That's not an outlandish contract.”

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Foot clan. Just nine days left before March 1st.

[Mike Wright]

I thought it was eight.

[Jason Moore]

It's a leap year.

[Andy Holloway]

Is it a leap year?

[Mike Wright]

Who knows?

[Andy Holloway]

There is between eight and nine days left before March 1.

[Mike Wright]

Where are we leaping?

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Ah, welcome in. Excited to be with you. I'm Andy Holloway, joined as always by my two best friends, Jason Moore.

[Jason Moore]

Thanks, bud.

[Mike Wright]

That's my bit.

[Andy Holloway]

And Mike the fantasy hitman. Write.

[Mike Wright]

Hello.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike has been drinking apparently.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I've been drinking. The gym, working out like a beast.

[Andy Holloway]

First you came in and you're like, can we get the air on in here? Yes, I'm burning up. Then it was, what are we leaping to?

[Mike Wright]

What's leap year?

[Andy Holloway]

And then there's that. So it's your bit, Mike. You can keep the best friend bit.

[Mike Wright]

I'm just here. I'm the spice.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, we'll find out what you are.

[Mike Wright]

Marco. Marco Polo was looking for me.

[Andy Holloway]

Marco Polo. The original Marco Polo.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Can we not. Can you mute him?

[Jason Moore]

Jason, do you have any idea what.

[Andy Holloway]

He said for the last like five minutes?

[Jason Moore]

This would be a Brooks only mutability.

[Andy Holloway]

Thursday, Thursday, February 20th. It is the preseason. We have a mailbag show today. We also have. In this time of year, it's a little less intense. We don't got games going on. And so we have the opportunity to. I wanted to do a little trust exercise this morning, so I threw some questions up on Twitter. Now, did either of you two gentlemen. Don't go over there.

[Mike Wright]

I've already seen them.

[Andy Holloway]

You've already seen them?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, well, that's fine.

[Mike Wright]

I apologize.

[Andy Holloway]

You were working out this morning.

[Mike Wright]

Mike, I'm so sorry that I look at our social media.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I was surprised they this morning and I don't have the results. I just told Brooks that I threw some questions up because I wanted to pull the Foot Clan and I was curious and Brooks is an option in all of these Polls, by the way. And I asked five questions, and the Foot Clan decided who they would pick in these situations. And so the first one that I put up, I said, look, Foot Clan, you're in the cockpit of a fighter jet. Who do you want as your co pilot? And they can choose Jason.

[Jason Moore]

They should have chose me.

[Andy Holloway]

And Jason's made it very clear before.

[Jason Moore]

I can land a plane.

[Andy Holloway]

He can land. What'd you put your odds at?

[Mike Wright]

I think it was 75.

[Jason Moore]

75%?

[Mike Wright]

Something like that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know. Maybe a little low.

[Mike Wright]

I can tell you who I voted for.

[Andy Holloway]

Who'd you vote for?

[Mike Wright]

I voted for Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Because you. So you want him in the cockpit with.

[Mike Wright]

Because the chance of me passing out from g force, very 100%. Very, very high. And I. You're very similar to me.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

When it comes to, like, coasters and those types of things. I think your chance of passing out also very high.

[Andy Holloway]

So you're looking at. You just want a warm body.

[Mike Wright]

I just want someone who will be conscious.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

So that's why I went with.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, Brooks was an option.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Brooks was not an option.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. What is the result of that? What was the result of that poll? Who did the Foot Clan want?

[Brooks]

Andy's the winner with 32%.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, you're all dead.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. They didn't take you to a chance.

[Andy Holloway]

What's the percentage?

[Brooks]

32% for Andy Now, Brooks, what was your percentage? I'm 26 and Mike is 24.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, you're all dead, too.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I would have picked the wrong. The wrong pilot.

[Andy Holloway]

I would have picked Brooks myself. I just feel like, you know, you're a pretty calm dude, and I think I'm going to need calm mind back there. Jason would be screaming.

[Brooks]

He's down at 16%.

[Jason Moore]

Oh. I would be screaming on the Runway after I'm out of the plane, and it would sound like. You see that? I get it.

[Andy Holloway]

I know you would. Jason would be up in the plane and he would pull the eject button.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yes, I would.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. When he sucker Jason, give me a hand. He's gone number two. It's time to pick a godparent. Who did the Foot Clan choose between the four of us to be the godparent of their children?

[Brooks]

Foot Clan went with Jason on this one with 41%.

[Jason Moore]

For.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe they think you're like a Santa Fe.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Who is the jolly dad? Who is the least godparent?

[Brooks]

Totally makes sense. That's me with 8%.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I figured it was me.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like that's fair. Cuz we have children and you don't.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Oh, yes.

[Andy Holloway]

You know what I mean?

[Mike Wright]

That's a good point.

[Andy Holloway]

I forgot Mike said. Yeah, I'd be all right. All right?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I'd be better than Brooks.

[Andy Holloway]

You're stuck in an abandoned prison. Zombies are on the loose. Who do you want with you in this situation?

[Jason Moore]

That's. That's Mike.

[Mike Wright]

That's me.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. That's.

[Mike Wright]

I want myself.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Brooks]

Mike dominated.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Wait, what Was the vote?

[Brooks]

53% to Mike?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

What was the next.

[Mike Wright]

You're all living.

[Andy Holloway]

Is it Jason?

[Brooks]

Jason 21.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I would have chosen Jason. I mean, I want those zombies distracted for the longest amount of time.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. They've got a lot to eat. And I'm just speaking of brains, of course. I've got so. So many.

[Mike Wright]

Very intelligent.

[Jason Moore]

So many brains.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. That's.

[Jason Moore]

That's.

[Andy Holloway]

What did you think I meant?

[Jason Moore]

No, that's. What we were in sync.

[Andy Holloway]

All right? You are under.

[Jason Moore]

Or.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm sorry. You're lost at sea. You're adrift, you're desperate. Who do you want to help navigate the way home?

[Jason Moore]

You.

[Mike Wright]

Me? I picked myself.

[Andy Holloway]

You picked yourself?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You have. You said you have a good sense of direction.

[Mike Wright]

I do.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I guess.

[Andy Holloway]

No one wants Brooks in this situation.

[Jason Moore]

I would be fine with any of you, just not me. That's not a me thing.

[Mike Wright]

See, where I think it would be good to have Brooks is because we. Oh, man. We're stuck in this raft. And Brooks will say, well, good thing I have this backpack with three months of supplies that you didn't know I had.

[Jason Moore]

It should be Brooks.

[Mike Wright]

And then.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you win that one, Brooks?

[Brooks]

It's real close. Between you and me and. Okay, you got 35%. I'm at 33%.

[Mike Wright]

And then we easily overpower him. And now I. Six months of supplies.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely. Brooks is out of this raft immediately, and we've got his backpack, and we're gonna be good.

[Andy Holloway]

You want his preparation, not his company.

[Jason Moore]

I just don't want his appetite to also have to feed.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, this is the last one that I came up with. Have you seen any of these, Jason?

[Jason Moore]

I saw them post.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. I don't know if you're under the. You're under the knife. Midway through surgery, the surgeon has to hand off for the most important part. Who is he handing the tools to? Who's got the steadiest hand? I feel like Mike. I mean, you're a guitarist. You've got this finesse, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. The hard part is you could Totally repair my heart. I think I have real good, like. I don't even know what you would call that, but like minute dexterity. Yeah, Dexterity. That's a good point.

[Jason Moore]

Fine motor skills.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

Al Borland jumping in here. He's just mad he wasn't in the polls. Yeah. Dexterity and. But I got a little. My hands a little shaky, so.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what I was gonna say. You can't have shaky hands.

[Jason Moore]

I know that I am and should be last in this like that. I know there's no way you want me because of.

[Andy Holloway]

He pulls the eject button.

[Jason Moore]

So many reasons. First of all, I'm stupid.

[Mike Wright]

I'm just cutting it and getting out.

[Jason Moore]

Like you. You guys pass out because of the G force. I'm all about that. Give me the G. I see that scalpel go in. I'm. Good night. I'm out. I'm on the floor.

[Andy Holloway]

Who was it? Is it you, Brooks?

[Brooks]

Well, I'll start with. Last place is a tie between Mike And Jason at 8%.

[Jason Moore]

8% nobody wants. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

High five.

[Andy Holloway]

So if people would rather have one of us than both of them together helping out.

[Brooks]

That is accurate.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

The people are wise.

[Brooks]

And Andy, you're the winner. 47%.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. That means I can.

[Jason Moore]

That means the martyrs are going to be on you. That's what that means. Because you're still not gonna succeed.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, It's. Which of us can live with the burden knowing that we have killed our friend?

[Andy Holloway]

Who can best cope with the guilt?

[Jason Moore]

We should have picked Brooks.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my goodness.

[Jason Moore]

Because he's going to die in the water anyways.

[Andy Holloway]

Out of the raft, Brooks, are you. Let me ask you one question. We actually have some fantasy football news to talk about before we get into that, though. Are you happy I included you on this poll or are you sad now that you've been thrown off of the boat?

[Brooks]

I'm honored.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Brooks]

To be thrown off that boat. That I was on the boat.

[Jason Moore]

Congratulations.

[Andy Holloway]

I thought that there was a chance that by including you, you would be chosen in all regards for all of these options that people just.

[Mike Wright]

They took it serious.

[Andy Holloway]

Trustworthy.

[Mike Wright]

They thought about these questions.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's talk news.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around.

[Andy Holloway]

By the way, you can follow us on twitter @the ffballers. Stay up to date with the latest fantasy football news, notes, information. We got free agency on the way. I'm gonna do a little bit of free agency. Wishing well on the next episode. Talk about some players and where we maybe hope that they land. But let's Start with the news. Drew Brees, he's back. He's announced on Instagram. He's on Instagram. Like you Jason, very hip, very hip of Drew Brees. He will return for the 2020 season.

[Jason Moore]

Well, the Tayson Hill as the franchise quarterback era was short and fun, but yes, Drew Brees is back. He comes already with a massive cap hit and that's before the contract. They need to work out. But obviously this is good for the Saints. Good for your Michael Thomas shares. Good for Drew Brees, good for everything. There's.

[Mike Wright]

Do they need to work something out? Is there like a restructuring that has to happen?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I don't know if they, I think they do need to work something out but I could be wrong there because his situation was weird already where it said he was on the books for 20 years. A free agent.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he was a free agent because he would be in those lists of, you know, best possible free agents for the year because he signed a deal in 2018.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Drew Brees back for another season. Taysom Hill likely to get a first or second round tender from the Saints so that would mean that if a team wanted to make Taysom Hill an offer that they would have to give up either a first or a second round pick to the Saints and the Saints would have an option to match. Now obviously if somebody made him an offer that was respective of a starting quarterback, you know, 20 plus million per year, the Saints aren't likely to match that offer. But it's also very unlikely that a team is going to go out and make Taysom Hill their starter.

[Jason Moore]

No, nobody is not in the, not in literally the only year of the last like 40 years where there are legitimately several free agent quarterbacks that are good. They're not going to go out there and be like, oh I could, you know, take a shot on Jameis Winston or Philip Rivers or how about this Taysom Hill guy?

[Mike Wright]

It also, even if no one was available, Taysum Hill has completed. What do we got here? Six passes in his career and he's going to be 30 years old in August. Like it's, it's just not happening for the saints. 100% it's worth it. Even if even the money they will have to pay him if they give him a first round tender. He's very valuable to this offense. He is a thorn in the butt cheeks of fantasy football players everywhere. But he's great for the team.

[Andy Holloway]

And then Teddy Bridgewater will very likely be out the door as well. So Taysom would be their Backup Bridgewater expected to have a strong market. According to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler could see upwards of 30 million per year. Is that a situation that you want yourself in as a franchise? Is Teddy Bridgewater a. Teddy is good.

[Mike Wright]

But I don't see him getting 30.

[Andy Holloway]

Teddy Grader sign Mitch oh, yes, yes. That's such a dumb question for me to bring up on this show. What a stupid example that I now.

[Mike Wright]

Team that needed Taysom Hill, it's the Chicago Bears.

[Andy Holloway]

That team would improve immediately on the six passes thrown by Taysom Hill.

[Mike Wright]

No completions. He's throwing the ball three times.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm no longer going to compare anybody to Mitch because I know what your choice will be. But Teddy Bridgewater could get a deal. Like you said, there are many options out there on free agency right now. Here was some big news. It was rumored last week Greg Olson A one year, $7 million contract with the Seattle Seahawks.

[Jason Moore]

That is not great news for the ceiling of Montana strong Will Disley.

[Andy Holloway]

I am pour one out for him.

[Jason Moore]

If we got a chance to play it, we play it Big Montana Will Disley. He's saying, hey Greg, come be my friend. But for fantasy, you think Greg Olson.

[Andy Holloway]

Has anything left to offer?

[Jason Moore]

I yeah, I do think he has something left to offer. I think he's a decent tight end right now. He's still quality as far as well rounded, a decent run blocker. He can go out and catch some passes. I don't think that he is going to be even with Russell Wilson and we saw what he was able to do with Disney, even with Hollister. I don't see Greg Olson as being this top eight tight end anymore, but he's going to go out there and get four or five touchdowns and, you know, 500 yards.

[Mike Wright]

Are you factoring in that he plays Arizona twice.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, tight end one Evan Ingram.

[Andy Holloway]

Those things turn over. And the thing that's strange about Olson going to Seattle for one year and then you have talk right now about, you know, Jason Whitten might not be back with the Cowboys and he could. He's not talking about retirement either. Like, Greg Olson was rumored to go to the broadcast booth. Jason Whitten's already been there, but he's talking about maybe playing somewhere else. It would be just very strange to see Olson and Whitten with one more kind of sad year. There was a question from Instagram wondering how do we come up with the Big Montana nickname for Will Disley? He's from Montana. He's from. He's from Bozeman. Yes, and so he was like their player of the year up there.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And there's only a few players up.

[Mike Wright]

There, but he was from Montana.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And he's big and he's strong. Like, it's not very complicated.

[Andy Holloway]

Did we come up with that?

[Jason Moore]

We did come up with that.

[Andy Holloway]

Because that auto completes on Google now. Well, right, because Will Disley, Big Montana.

[Mike Wright]

Are you kidding me?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I'm not kidding. I thought when I autocompleted that maybe we had taken that from like a high school coach nickname or something.

[Jason Moore]

No. Do you remember what his nickname was like? He has. He had an official nickname. We rebranded him Big Montana, but without looking it up. Do either of you remember Big Will? It's Uncle Will.

[Andy Holloway]

Uncle Will. So we improved that nickname.

[Jason Moore]

We did.

[Andy Holloway]

I hope he. I still think that there's a potential that he comes back and is. Is a factor in the future, not next year.

[Mike Wright]

He's coming off a torn Achilles also. Basically, the first result or the first or second result. If you search Will Disley, Big Montana is a Reddit thread entitled Will Dizzly, AKA Big Montana.

[Jason Moore]

Kiyo.

[Andy Holloway]

Making our mark in the fantasy industry once again.

[Mike Wright]

You are welcome, America.

[Jason Moore]

Foot clan. You are strong.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, you are mighty. Undefeated. The Redskins have exercised Adrian Peterson's 2020 option. He will be back with Washington. This is not a surprise. He was valuable to that team last year. And he, at a minimum, provides great insurance for the hopeful Darius guy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. From my understanding, they are looking at working a veteran minimum contract through the year 2030. They believe that he, for Peterson, he could play into his 50s.

[Andy Holloway]

Based on the knowledge I have of his financial situation. He needs a contract through 2030.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Which is sad.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. There was a report. Is it worth talking about the Tom Brady Report? Larry Fitzgerald Sr. Who is a longtime reporter, not generally breaking news. He did, he did report this past week that the Raiders are preparing to offer Brady a two year, $60 million contract. Obviously, anybody can offer Tom Brady a contract. He's a free agent.

[Jason Moore]

And I think people will. I mean, if they're interested. That's the starting point. I mean, two years, 60 million, that's not an outlandish contract. That's like, what did you just say about Teddy Bridgewater? Like 30 million a year that you want Teddy Bridgewater or Tom Brady, even at this age?

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's the years that will be the interesting part for the Brady signing because it leverages the Patriots. It puts them in a tough position. Where do you give them a two year guaranteed contract for a Player of that age. Yeah, they don't get to go year to year is all I'm saying. When you're, when you're 42 and a half, two years, that's risky business.

[Mike Wright]

It is.

[Andy Holloway]

The Cardinals, it's been reported that they do want to keep Kenyon Drake. The franchise tag would be an option. I don't believe that report.

[Jason Moore]

I don't either. I was going to say this is something where you throw out a comment of like, maybe they could franchise tag him and then it's being reported, oh, that could be an option. That is. It's virtually an impossibility. Just roster construction wise. Money that's already invested in David Johnson. Maybe if they were able to find someone to take on the salary, then that could be an option. In the meantime, while they said they're not going to cut David Johnson, it would literally cost them more money if they cut him than if they keep him. So there's no way that they cut him. And I agree, they're not franchising, kid you, Drake. But the point is, they want Drake. They want to sign him and have him be a Cardinal.

[Andy Holloway]

Absolutely. And then good news. Big Ben expected to be ready for week one. At least that's what Mike Tomlin said on ESPN's First Take. There was a report also about the Jaguars not a lock to pick up Leonard Fournette's fifth year option. That's a $10.1 million hit. I mean, that's a lot of money.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it makes sense.

[Andy Holloway]

And there's no dead cap hit with him. Right. They can just let him go.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

That situation when they, when they changed the contract back when he was suspended by Tom Coughlin, his was. His guaranteed money went away.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I think if they, if they were to try to get rid of the guarantee, like actually capitalize on no guaranteed, the NFLPA would come after him.

[Mike Wright]

But he'll be back this year.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Doesn't make sense to let him go. Ron Rivera confirms Jordan Reed remains in the concussion protocol.

[Mike Wright]

Good grief.

[Andy Holloway]

That's not the kind of report that you're used to seeing in February. But Jordan Reed has had just a storied history of concussion issues. I don't understand why he would want to risk playing again, much less the Redskins take another shot on.

[Jason Moore]

I hope he remains in the league's concussion protocol next February as well. And forever and never is allowed to play football again for his own sake. We loved Jordan Reed. Rule 86. He is. He's in the hall of Fame.

[Andy Holloway]

He's 29 years old. He's 29.

[Jason Moore]

But no, he should not. You know, you have that. That many of the injuries, you call. Call it a career.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, any other bits of news that you guys want to talk about?

[Mike Wright]

Nope.

[Andy Holloway]

We good to get into the mailbag?

[Mike Wright]

Mm.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's do it.

[Jason Moore]

Mailbag.

[Mike Wright]

Mail bag. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. We have some voicemail questions today as well. You can send your questions in 302-464-TFFB. You can also submit them on the website thefantasyfootballers.com. just click the submit a question button. We want to help you out. Let's jump into a voicemail.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, ballers, this is Jacob out in Vegas. If you had to write, produce, and sing on a duet album with any current NFL player, who would it be and why? Thanks, Adam.

[Andy Holloway]

Hard hitting.

[Jason Moore]

This is easy for me.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, it's easy.

[Jason Moore]

It's very easy. There's three players that come to mind. Two are absolutely. Okay, I'm not. Look, I've seen enough of Love Bell and Antonio Brown's musical prowess and stick to football, right? But their former teammate Juju. Oh, come on. Me and juju?

[Mike Wright]

It'll be excellent.

[Jason Moore]

Look, they made a movie called the Star is born about a team.

[Andy Holloway]

A duet.

[Jason Moore]

A duet. And that would be me and my man Juju.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you Lady Gaga in that situation?

[Jason Moore]

You're darn right I am. Okay, I can't pull off the Bradley Cooper. That's got to be Juju.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I think clearly my choice has been brought forth in the last couple of days. I didn't realize this man was such a lyricist. But, look, me and Stefan Diggs, we could take care of things. Life's too short, man.

[Mike Wright]

That's a great call.

[Andy Holloway]

We can go with that one. Always got an ace up my sleeve for whatever was dealt. That's another good line.

[Mike Wright]

Are these just, like, song titles that he's throwing out?

[Andy Holloway]

Things getting interesting. Oh, yeah. These are his tweets. J. Oh, I thought.

[Mike Wright]

I thought this was the track list.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe this is his album.

[Mike Wright]

That's what it is.

[Andy Holloway]

Everybody go through something. It's all about perseverance.

[Jason Moore]

Everybody's thinking he's vague booking. No, he's promoting his future album.

[Andy Holloway]

The new Everything that was done in the dark is about to come to light.

[Jason Moore]

I'm gonna love that track.

[Andy Holloway]

A lot of talk about Stefan Diggs getting traded, guys.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, apparently he removed all the Viking stuff from his Instagram because this is how we handle things as adults now.

[Andy Holloway]

He still got Vikings things on Twitter, though. There's a hope he Hasn't.

[Mike Wright]

He hasn't wiped it all clean.

[Jason Moore]

If Stefan Diggs was traded, I'm just throwing this out there right now. I will be way too high on Adam Thielen. And by that I mean I will be appropriately high. I'm all in.

[Mike Wright]

To answer the question for me, though, I'm going with J.J. watt because he's got star power. I think he can bring people in. Interesting. They're gonna listen. But I'm gonna look awesome because he's gonna be on that track and he's gonna look.

[Jason Moore]

He'll be so terrible of whatever, dancing, just whatever.

[Mike Wright]

Anything in music. I can't imagine that J.J. watt has musical abilities. And so I'm just trying to look.

[Andy Holloway]

You might look less buff, though.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, well, look, that part's. I'll look 10% less buff.

[Jason Moore]

I get it.

[Mike Wright]

He's a little bit stronger than me.

[Jason Moore]

Here's the thing about that, though.

[Mike Wright]

Little bit.

[Jason Moore]

What NFL player is going to make us not look less buff?

[Mike Wright]

I've kick kickers.

[Andy Holloway]

Kickers.

[Jason Moore]

What?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, some of them.

[Jason Moore]

Like, he's retired now.

[Andy Holloway]

All the kickers that were just the one single face mask. Does anybody do that anymore?

[Jason Moore]

Neil Liker.

[Mike Wright]

Tom Tupa.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Going back to the 90s. All right, we have another voicemail question.

[Jason Moore]

What up, ballers? This is Daniel from Cleveland, Ohio. I want to know who you'd rather own in a Dynasty league right now, Odell or DJ Moore.

[Andy Holloway]

My friend Justin, who just got engaged. Oh, he.

[Mike Wright]

Congratulations.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's awesome. It's Odell Beckham and it's. It's not close for me.

[Mike Wright]

The DJ Moore breakout, I believe 100% it was real. Like, I loved, loved him coming out of college. Didn't so much love the landing spot. You do have a retooling, but, man, 135 targets almost 1200 yards last year.

[Jason Moore]

22 years old. So DJ Moore is five years younger than Odell Beckham, who just basically played most of the season and wasn't very good. Obviously, you've got the surgery that Odell Beckham. Did he. Did he get that already? He was saying, you should have got it through the year. Obviously struggles with Baker Mayfield. I had a question come in. Very, very, very similar of Odell Beckham versus Juju and saying, who do you want in Dynasty? It's a really tough question for me because Odell Beckham carries an enormous name, but is he going to get back to that name production wise? He's only 27 years old, which for a wide receiver, still young. And I think you're not going to go wrong either way. If I had to pick here, I would probably order them. I would take Odell over DJ Moore.

[Mike Wright]

It is very close for me this year in redraft. Will, would you rather have DJ Moore or Odell at this point? I mean, we're very early, but because.

[Jason Moore]

Of the quarterback situation for Carolina, I will take Odell Beckham.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

Dynasty trade question from Yanni in New York. Would you trade Ezekiel Elliott for Josh Jacobs and the first Pick in the 2020 rookie draft in a dynasty league? Or would you ask for more? Thanks. Love the podcast.

[Mike Wright]

Wait, you can trade Zeke.

[Andy Holloway]

You can get it.

[Mike Wright]

Get Jacobs and the number one pick.

[Andy Holloway]

And the number one pick.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Easy Smash.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a big yes.

[Mike Wright]

I wish I had a button.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's a easy yes for me as well. I love Zeke. As far as you know, he's. He's got the body type where I think he's going to have a longer career for a running back. But we still think a running back and they fall off a cliff quick. You can replace him with the first pick of the 2020 draft or Josh Jacobs.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Ross from the UK has a question for us.

[Mike Wright]

Bonjour.

[Andy Holloway]

Somehow it hit fresh Mike. Hey, Ballers. I am a Cowboys fan from the uk. I'll be coming over to New York in December this year. While I'm in the US I'd like to get to a Dallas road game if the dates match up. My question is this, is it acceptable for me to wear Cowboys colors when visiting a home stadium of, oh, let's say the Eagles or the Giant? Love the podcast. Wants to know the etiquette. I feel like, Jason, you have a very. You have an interesting etiquette story for the road jersey.

[Jason Moore]

Well, so, I mean, I've had a couple experiences. I feel like once I was going to a Phoenix Suns game in Los Angeles. This was a playoff game.

[Mike Wright]

We the basketball team.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, correct. The basketball team. We, the Phoenix Suns won the game in exciting fashion. And I felt like I almost died leaving that game. I certainly wish I did not have the jersey on it. So I'm going to say, did you.

[Andy Holloway]

Remove the jersey on the way out of the building?

[Jason Moore]

I did not. I should have. I mean, you're talking things planter. Like there's big planters leaving the people grabbing like roots and rocks had thrown them.

[Andy Holloway]

Yikes.

[Jason Moore]

They were not happy about losing losers. But I think this comes down to the fan base. So like Philly.

[Mike Wright]

So Philly.

[Jason Moore]

Philly. I'm not.

[Mike Wright]

Are you going into Philly with opposing colors?

[Jason Moore]

No, I'm not. Now here's the. His one advantage. I'm assuming he has an English accent. Oh, yeah, that's going to score very charming. That's going to score you points. Nobody's going to be. They're going to be like, okay, this guy's fine. We get it. He doesn't know football. He's from across the pond. So I think that's an advantage. But I wouldn't, I still wouldn't do it in Philly.

[Mike Wright]

What about New York?

[Jason Moore]

Save yourself. Yeah, New York. I'm fine.

[Mike Wright]

You're fine. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

It's acceptable 100%. It should not be a problem to go to an opposing stadium where your team's jersey. Like, it shouldn't be a problem. And I would say the vast majority of the time it's not a problem.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you got the Raiders. The Eagles. Oh, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I would, I would not do it.

[Jason Moore]

That's like end of list that those two.

[Mike Wright]

It's trouble going to an Arizona game against the Raiders wearing an own Arizona jersey in Arizona.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, can't do that.

[Mike Wright]

They're rambunctious, them Raiders fans.

[Jason Moore]

Hide my fandom at the home game with the Raiders fans. Go Raiders.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, moving on. By the way, we did have an official answer from an Eagles fan. Ketchron wanted to jump in. He said you can, but if you start talking smack, you, death will come to him.

[Mike Wright]

All right, there you go.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a scary situation.

[Jason Moore]

Bring a shirt for the way out. Put it. Put another shirt over the top.

[Andy Holloway]

Robert on Twitter says who is the second best Batman after of course, Michael Keaton.

[Mike Wright]

That's easy.

[Jason Moore]

Christian Bale.

[Mike Wright]

Christian Bale.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

Christian Bale might be the best Batman.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Jason Moore]

That's rude.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you see, I love Michael Keaton.

[Mike Wright]

I love Michael Keaton as well.

[Andy Holloway]

Christian Bale is the right answer. What if he's eliminated? Is there what put him in order the next.

[Mike Wright]

Then I will take Adam West.

[Andy Holloway]

You're not willing to go Val Kilmer?

[Mike Wright]

No. Adam West. The old, the old Batman's are actually.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like Val Kilmer was submarine by everything surrounding him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it really was because he wasn't. I don't feel like he was aping.

[Mike Wright]

For Val Kilmer as Batman.

[Andy Holloway]

There was a period of time when I liked Val Kilmer a whole lot. You remember the saint, like the saint. The saint but heat. Was he in heat?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, he was.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you're darn right he was.

[Mike Wright]

He was also in MacGruber.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Val Kilmer was a bigger version of Val kilmer. Was in MacGruber.

[Mike Wright]

You may not have recognized him. He didn't have the boyish young charm.

[Jason Moore]

It was Val Kilmer wearing Val Kilmer suit.

[Andy Holloway]

A saint. Sequel's not in the works.

[Jason Moore]

No, it could be. Although you didn't even name his best tombstone. Oh, yeah, Peak Val Kilmer.

[Andy Holloway]

He's had too many huckleberries now.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, huckleberries.

[Andy Holloway]

This is not okay.

[Jason Moore]

No, it's clearly Ben Affleck.

[Mike Wright]

He was Batman.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, no, it's weird to think because I don't even include him.

[Mike Wright]

I haven't even seen him.

[Andy Holloway]

He's coming out with a new, like, sports movie. You see that? Like, he's the head coach of a. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Who's the new. The new Batman.

[Mike Wright]

Pattinson.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Robert Pattinson.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I like him.

[Jason Moore]

He's gonna be the most handsome Batman.

[Mike Wright]

Christian Bale disagrees.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, give me a break, Christian.

[Mike Wright]

Christian Bale is a national treasure.

[Andy Holloway]

George Clooney disagrees.

[Mike Wright]

Oh.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's a great point. That's a real solid point.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Dynasty question from Ace FFJAM on Twitter. Aaron Rodgers or Sam Darnold in a dynasty league.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Holy moly. That's a gross question.

[Andy Holloway]

Give me Aaron Rodgers.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, give me.

[Andy Holloway]

Give me two years of Aaron Rodgers.

[Jason Moore]

It is Aaron Rodgers, but it's not an absurd question. It's going to be Aaron Rodgers, but it's gross. That that's okay.

[Mike Wright]

Is okay. So your confidence that Aaron Rodgers is actually still Aaron Rodgers for fantasy next year.

[Andy Holloway]

So I think that was he this past year. Was he Aaron Rodgers this past year?

[Jason Moore]

No, no, certainly not.

[Mike Wright]

If you drafted and played Aaron Rodgers every week, you were not in the playoffs.

[Andy Holloway]

You were certainly happier than if you had drafted and started Sam Darnold every week.

[Jason Moore]

Well, he didn't say.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he was smooching.

[Andy Holloway]

He sure did. Sam Donald play a large part of.

[Mike Wright]

The season, but he missed the beginning of it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So, I mean, the answer is Aaron Rodgers. And I think that Aaron Rodgers will continue to have big games in a dynasty league. You're not streaming off of the waivers. All the quarterbacks are owned. So you want a guy who can have the ceilings that Aaron Rodgers provides, but he's not a plug and play, week in, week out starter.

[Mike Wright]

He's 4,000 yards and 26 touchdowns. That's what Aaron Rodgers did.

[Jason Moore]

That's good if you take the name out. Good, not great.

[Mike Wright]

Right?

[Jason Moore]

It's bad if it's Aaron Rodgers last.

[Andy Holloway]

Year there's two debates. We've talked about Aaron Rodgers in totality, but this is a head to head.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I switched the conversation over because it's Aaron Rodgers, because Darnold is entrapped by Adam Gaze. But Aaron Rodgers, 4,000 yards, 26 touchdowns the previous year, 4,400 yards, 25 touchdowns the year before that. He was hurt, only played seven games like it's been since 2016 that you were happy you had Aaron Rodgers as your fantasy quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

So let me ask you this then. Is it better to say that you have a backup court, like if you're viewing him as a backup quarterback, is.

[Mike Wright]

Your QB2, you mean?

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

In a Dynasty league, then is the argument for Darnold that you just have a backup quarterback for many, many, many more years?

[Jason Moore]

No, I don't think so. Because when you have a backup in Dynasty, it's not like a safety net in case of injury. You're going to be playing your quarterback too. In Dynasty, unless you have a season like Lamar Jackson gave you a week in and week out, you're playing them. You're, you're going to be playing your quarterback two, maybe even your quarterback three. I want the higher end game.

[Mike Wright]

It's, it's that for, for the argument for Darnold is that he's young and do you think he can emerge and become one of these like a top 12 fantasy quarterback?

[Jason Moore]

You just said, well, what was Aaron Rodgers? 4,026. So Sam Darnold's 16 game pace was 3,700 yards and 23 touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

So it's not that far. Now granted the interceptions are widely different, but yeah, the issue is, okay, two years from now, is it out of the realm of possibility that Sam Darnold is much more valuable than Aaron Rodgers in two seasons? And that's, that's not out of the question.

[Andy Holloway]

It's way too young like Darnold at 22. I'm not willing to say he's destined to an Andy Dalton career or something of that nature. It's just not enough of a sample size. And Adam, it's just an interesting question though.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. It's Rogers though.

[Andy Holloway]

YouTube. Someone on, from the YouTube community sent this one in. Andrew Nelson. Joe Mixon or Josh Jacobs? Joe Mixon. Josh Jacobs. You go. You guys know where I stand here.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you stand.

[Mike Wright]

Joe Mixon.

[Jason Moore]

So both of these guys stupidly and surprisingly were not involved in the receiving game this, this past season. Both of these guys have incredible receiving ability like Josh Jacobs, great pass catcher, Joe Mixon. Great pass catcher.

[Mike Wright]

Probably better pass catcher.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. But neither one really utilized this last season. I think going forward there's a better chance now that they've resigned Jalen Rashard to a, you know, to, to a new contract.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

I think there's a better chance that Joe Mixa gets more involved in the passing game than Josh Jacobs.

[Andy Holloway]

He went from 43 receptions in just 13 games started in 2018 to 35 last year.

[Mike Wright]

Like 35 is. That's, like, that's, that's the Eddie Lacy number. That, that's what I always compare it to. Like they're not a focal point of the, of the passing game. He has the chops. They're just. What Jason's saying is Joe Mixon should be a 60 plus reception guy. They just aren't using him that way.

[Andy Holloway]

Same with Jacobs, though.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I agree. I think it's more likely that we see Mixon become that. I guess I lean Eileen Mixon right now, but I'm. It's just one foot, just one foot.

[Jason Moore]

Over Joe Mixon is.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to guess 25.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to go 24.

[Jason Moore]

I would have guessed 25. And I'm usually really good with ages.

[Mike Wright]

It's true.

[Jason Moore]

He's 23.

[Mike Wright]

Holy crap.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. No, he's.

[Mike Wright]

When's he 24?

[Jason Moore]

July 24th.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, so he'll be 24 this year.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

It's my valentine. Right there.

[Mike Wright]

It is.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Instagram question. Where do you draft Tyler Higby next year? He signed a four year contract extension in September. Everett's contract is through 2020.

[Mike Wright]

Higby is so interesting, man. Do you believe that? It was a real small sample size, but they completely changed the offense for those. What was a four or five game?

[Jason Moore]

Five games.

[Mike Wright]

Five games at the end of the year. And it wasn't just that. Higby went off and he was incredible for fantasy football. He was a production monster at the tight end position. Like the team was better. Jared Goff was way better. Todd Gurley in the running game was better when they made this switch. So that has me leaning to that. Tyler Higby could be the real deal now. Where would you draft him? Like, where would I bet on that? It's not, it's still not until it's.

[Jason Moore]

Double digit rounds delay.

[Mike Wright]

Well, like I'm fine if you want to take him in like the eighth round or something. I just won't pay the middle round price for.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think you're going to need to pay a middle round price. I Don't think you're going to need to pay an eighth or ninth by the time the season rolls around. There's going to be question marks surrounding Tyler Higby. There's going to be question marks of was that the real deal? Everett still involved? You know, they've improved their offensive line, yada, yada yada. There's going to be a million questions and there's all these other guys that I think will have more excitement and more surety. You know, the Jared Cooks of the world will all go ahead.

[Mike Wright]

Cook will be like a fourth or fifth round guy. He'll be, you know, we always have the top, the top tier guys you have. It'll be Kelsey, George, Kittle and Ertz will probably be in there. They'll be second and the third round. Then you have that next tier of tight ends who start going to the fifth round. Last year it was Ingram, O.J. howard and Joku. Like I think that Jared Cook will be in that tier of guys. You're gonna have to pay up if you want him.

[Andy Holloway]

I will not be in on Higby, okay? He is not the kind of physical specimen that will demand the ball the way Kelsey Kittle. Even a player like Waller might demand the ball. He's on a team that has weapons that. Look, if you run the offense through Higby, he was productive, but he's been a member of this team for quite some time not having the offense run through him. And yes, maybe the team had some better games. They still didn't make the playoffs in that stretch. They still lost important games in that stretch. Higby is not the kind of player that demands you to run the offense through him. And anytime you're a part of an offense where you could be the fifth option on any given week because you don't demand the ball. Cooks, Woods, Cup, Gurley, there is not going to be enough hype for me to justify the investment. All of those reasons outside of the top 11, 12 rounds, all of those.

[Jason Moore]

Reasons you just laid out is why Higby will 100% be in double digit rounds. His average draft position will not creep into the 9th. He'll be a 10th or later guy and I will take a shot on him if he is that late, okay? Because it cost me nothing, you know, and I'm usually one of those guys that I'm either taking the Kelsey or Kittle early so that I've locked it up or I'm going to wait for the shot late because I feel like those mid round, those mid Range guys. I mean you just brought it up, right? O.J. howard, Evan Ingram, those mid range guys.

[Mike Wright]

His last year and they almost always.

[Jason Moore]

They didn't pan out.

[Andy Holloway]

Does it concern you that you saw the transition from like Everett looked like he was going to be a reliable tight end option and then poof, he was gone.

[Mike Wright]

He looked like he could be emerging, but he didn't put anything together like Tyler Higby did. I know, I'm just the question to me becomes is he worth the late round shot? And I think he is sure he'll be one of, he'll be one of my favorite late round tight ends. If he somehow is going in the double digits, then I'm, then I'll be.

[Andy Holloway]

Real excited because if they do take the shot, what they did last year.

[Mike Wright]

It'S like drafting Mark Andrews last year. You're like, sure, I've seen what he can become.

[Andy Holloway]

Love the contract.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah, he's, he's not going away.

[Jason Moore]

And look at what I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't just, oh, they started going to him more. It was, he was on the field more.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

They said he is now.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Everett was injured though for some.

[Jason Moore]

Of it, not for all of it.

[Andy Holloway]

He came back.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Everett got back at the end and you know, if you look at the snap percentages for Higby, here's the beginning of the year. 51%, 34%, 44%, 56, 58. It stays like that the whole year until the last five weeks. 91, 97, 85, 89, 96%. He became one of the cogs, one of the core pieces of the offense. If he ends up next year being on the field 90 plus percent. I think he's going to be great for fantasy. That's the question that we're asking is will he be pretty much every down player or not?

[Andy Holloway]

It's interesting because he's been in the league for four years.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So I think he will be one of the more interesting late round. I mean your consequence for being wrong if he's in the double digit rounds is not great. So he's a player that has shown you upside but probably won't cost you a lot like Jason was saying. So why not take the shot?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's the Mark Andrews, Darren Waller type from this past year. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

It'd be nice to see them go back to that fourth round pick. Four years in the league, has the better contract situation obviously than Gerald Everett does. Everett is on his way out.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

YouTube question. Jeff Jarrett, how many bench Spots are too many.

[Jason Moore]

How many bench spots are too many? Well, that's going to depend on your league type. Obviously, a Dynasty.

[Mike Wright]

Let's go to Redraft.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Yeah, Redraft. Too many.

[Mike Wright]

Is seven okay?

[Jason Moore]

I'm happy with five or six. Assuming a 12, you know, a 12 team lead.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You basically want a situation where your waiver wire is not bare, but your waiver wire is also not, you know, filled with top tier options. You know, you need that balance where you're, you know, people aren't able to hold players indefinitely and not make decisions. So I like five or six. I would say.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I would say six. But I also like a starting roster of either an extra flex or an extra super flex. So you need more players.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Two flex as a six bench is really nice.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Question from Mike Luther on Facebook. Dynasty question. Who flew under the radar that you think will make a leap this year? Is it someone like Nikhil Harry or Hunter Renfro, whose face popped into my head when I started picturing Tom Brady in Raiders uniform? You know, Hunter Renfro for a couple of years there, potentially.

[Jason Moore]

This is specific for Dynasty.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, we've talked about Devin Singletary ad nauseum. He's not completely under the radar, but I still think he's a little.

[Mike Wright]

He's blipping on the radar.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's on the outskirts. If you want to go super deep, like an Akil Harry, someone that lost their first season. I still think Andy Isabella has a chance.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Never got on the field, which was extremely disappointing. But when he did get on the.

[Andy Holloway]

Field, all those jet sweeps.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, those jet sweeps were awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you consider Hollywood Brown under the radar right now?

[Jason Moore]

He's someone that I don't think has peaked value wise. So a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

Is Terry McClure under the radar?

[Jason Moore]

No, definitely not.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, I don't think he's under the radar.

[Jason Moore]

So I think both those guys, Hollywood Brown and Terry McLaurin, I think both players are not under the radar, but both players, I think you can get cheaper than what their actual value will be.

[Mike Wright]

So I would throw out under the radar at the tight end position. Jay Sternberger for Green Bay.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

I bet you can still get him pretty cheap. Irv Smith from Minnesota, I mean, that's. I think he's even, probably even a deeper stash than Jay Sternberger because Kyle Rudolph is still in town. But Irv Smith did flash a little bit when he was on the field.

[Andy Holloway]

Diggs was traded.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there you go. If Diggs is traded. Then. Then what? BC becomes interesting as well.

[Jason Moore]

Darius breaking like Stefan Diggs just traded. Oh, did he get traded? Nope.

[Andy Holloway]

Jordan Reed is now out of the concussion protocol.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no way. No way.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

He's in the protocol for six months after suffering the hit in preseason. His release is also imminent.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, please, nobody resign him.

[Mike Wright]

They probably.

[Andy Holloway]

Man, 29 years old, they probably have.

[Mike Wright]

To get him out.

[Andy Holloway]

If he wants to play, he will have somebody give him the opportunity to play.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, someone will give him a shot because he's great player. But I don't. So I'm just. This is just a hypothesis because I don't know exactly how it works, but I'm curious if they have to get him out of the concussion protocol before they can cut him or then you.

[Andy Holloway]

Have like, yeah, you're fine. See you later.

[Mike Wright]

Well, is there injury severance pay that that becomes a factor?

[Andy Holloway]

It's a good question, but I just. Insane timing on that breaking in the middle of the show. We talked about it. We want to thank Pristine Auction for their support of the podcast. And Austin Eckler signed Chargers logo football yesterday. Sold for $53.35.

[Mike Wright]

Stop disrespecting Austin Eckler.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

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