Bounce Back Players + The Return of the Hitman

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: "Bounce Back Players + The Return of the Hitman" (July 10, 2018)

The Fantasy Footballers, hosted by Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright, deliver another insightful episode focusing on identifying "bounce back" players poised to elevate their performance in the 2018 NFL Fantasy Football season. Additionally, the episode marks the return of Mike Wright after a brief hiatus.

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1. Welcome and Introduction

The episode kicks off with the trio welcoming back Mike Wright after his six to eight-week absence spent near Big Bear Lake, where he attended to personal matters. Holloway humorously refers to Mike as "the elephant in the room," setting a lighthearted tone for the discussion [00:59].

2. Recognition for Draft Accuracy

A significant highlight is the acknowledgment of their draft accuracy. FantasyPros.com ranked Fantasy Footballers’ Jason Moore at number three out of 130 experts for draft accuracy. This achievement underscores the show's reputation for providing reliable fantasy football insights. Holloway shares, "It's validating to the analysis and the work we do, and we're proud of that" [05:27]. The hosts express gratitude towards their loyal listeners, attributing their success to the community's support.

3. Main Segment: Bounce Back Players

The core of the episode revolves around identifying players who underperformed in 2017 but have the potential to significantly improve in 2018. Each host selects two players they believe fit this "bounce back" criteria.

a. Mike Wright’s Selections

1. Amari Cooper

   • Analysis: Cooper had a challenging 2017, with nearly half of his yards coming in just two games and suffering from defensive pressures. However, Wright remains optimistic about his potential, noting significant changes in his team dynamics and offensive opportunities.
   • Quote: "If Amari Cooper has a huge amount of his yards in four games yet again, it will not surprise me." [13:35]

2. Jordan Reed

   • Analysis: Despite past disappointments due to injuries and limited game time, Wright believes Reed can bounce back if he maintains health. He emphasizes Reed’s established rapport with quarterback Alex Smith, who has a history of supporting top-tier tight ends.
   • Quote: "He's playing at least 12 games." [27:35]

b. Jason Moore’s Selections

1. Marcus Mariota

   • Analysis: Following an injury that sidelined him for part of the 2017 season, Mariota showed promise early on. Moore projects Mariota as a quarterback one for the upcoming season, anticipating a robust return given the Titans' offensive improvements.
   • Quote: "I think he's a quarterback one this next season and he's being drafted very, very, very late." [16:13]

2. Emmanuel Sanders

   • Analysis: Sanders had an underwhelming 2017 but possesses the skills and experience to reclaim his status as a top receiver. Moore highlights Sanders' route-running and durability, positioning him as a valuable late-round pick.
   • Quote: "He's a wide receiver too on the season as opposed to having to shoot for the moon." [28:18]

c. Andy Holloway’s Selections

1. Ty Hilton

   • Analysis: Hilton's inconsistent 2017 was attributed to poor quarterback play rather than his own performance. With a stable quarterback situation, Holloway anticipates Hilton regaining his pre-2017 form.
   • Quote: "He's a top 12 guy with Andrew Luck." [20:18]

2. Greg Olsen

   • Analysis: Despite dealing with a foot injury, Olsen's consistent history and relationship with quarterback Cam Newton make him a strong candidate for a bounce-back season. Holloway is confident in Olsen’s ability to return to his elite tight end status.
   • Quote: "Greg Olson is a great bounce back candidate." [31:59]

4. Listener Questions and Answers (Mailbag)

The hosts engage with listeners' questions, providing tailored advice on various fantasy football strategies.

a. Drafting Multiple Running Backs Sequentially

• Question: Adrian from Tulsa asks about the viability of drafting three consecutive running backs in a PPR league.
• Hosts' Advice: Holloway advises against pre-deciding to draft multiple running backs, emphasizing flexibility to capitalize on available talent. "I generally have a problem with you deciding before the draft that you're going to have three straight running backs" [36:33].

b. Strategy for Two Tight End Leagues

• Question: A listener from Philadelphia inquires about drafting strategies for leagues requiring two tight ends.
• Hosts' Advice: Moore recommends securing one reliable tight end early and streaming the second position, suggesting targeting top-tier tight ends without overcommitting early. "You need to make sure that your first tight end isn't a complete question mark past the Trey Burton tier" [37:53].

c. Drafting Multiple Players from the Same Team

• Question: Nick from New York asks about the risks of drafting multiple players from a single team.
• Hosts' Advice: The trio advises caution, highlighting that good defenses like Minnesota's can limit the upside of multiple players from the same team. "Minnesota's defense is too good to allow all four of those guys to go off in a game" [40:15].

d. Running Back Committees

• Question: Daniel from Charleston asks at what carry percentage a running back committee becomes problematic.
• Hosts' Advice: Holloway and Moore focus on total carry counts rather than percentages, suggesting that around 60% is ideal but recognizing the value in high carry counts even if percentages vary. "Devonta Freeman...he was at 51%" [40:59].

e. Dynasty Trade Decision

• Question: Caleb poses a trade scenario in a dynasty league: swapping Tyrell Williams and Leonard Fournette for Adam Thielen and Devonta Freeman.
• Hosts' Advice: Wright and Moore support acquiring Adam Thielen and Devonta Freeman, citing Thielen's elite receiver status and the easier replacement of running backs in dynasty formats. "Adam Thielen is very, very close to an elite fantasy wide receiver" [42:31].

f. Keeper League Strategy

• Question: Scott and Tucson Arizona ask whether to keep David Johnson in the first round or Michael Thomas in the eighth round.
• Hosts' Advice: Both Jason and Holloway advocate for keeping Michael Thomas due to his high value and potential as a top wide receiver, despite his lower draft position. "It's Michael Thomas for me" [43:37].

5. Concluding Remarks

The episode wraps up with the hosts reiterating their appreciation for listeners and emphasizing their commitment to providing valuable fantasy football insights. They maintain their characteristic blend of humor and expert analysis, ensuring listeners are well-equipped for the upcoming fantasy season.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Mike Wright on Amari Cooper: “If Amari Cooper has a huge amount of his yards in four games yet again, it will not surprise me.” [13:35]

• Jason Moore on Marcus Mariota: “I think he's a quarterback one this next season and he's being drafted very, very, very late.” [16:13]

• Andy Holloway on Greg Olsen: “Greg Olson is a great bounce back candidate.” [31:59]

• Jason Moore on Emmanuel Sanders: “He's a wide receiver too on the season as opposed to having to shoot for the moon.” [28:18]

Key Takeaways

• Bounce Back Potential: Identifying players with the capacity to rebound is crucial for gaining an edge in fantasy leagues. The hosts provide data-driven insights into why specific players are expected to improve.

• Draft Flexibility: Rigid drafting strategies, such as committing to multiple running backs early, can hinder the ability to capitalize on value picks. Flexibility allows for adapting to the draft flow and maximizing team potential.

• Value in Late Rounds: Players like Emmanuel Sanders and Greg Olsen offer significant value in later rounds, providing high upside without necessitating high investment.

• Team Dynamics Matter: Player performance is often influenced by team dynamics, including quarterback play and offensive strategies. Understanding these relationships can inform more accurate player projections.

Final Thoughts

This episode of the Fantasy Footballers combines humor with in-depth analysis, offering listeners actionable strategies for the 2018 fantasy season. By focusing on bounce back players and addressing listener concerns, the hosts demonstrate their expertise and commitment to helping fantasy managers succeed.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

That sounded like an elephant.

[Andy Holloway]

That is how impressive that giveaway is. And you can enter absolutely free. We give away stuff every month. Go to FootClangiveaway.com for a chance to win any of those three pieces of fine autographed sports memorabilia.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from Draft.com Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome back. The elephant in the room is Mike Wright. That's somewhere between an elephant and, like, a zany clown toy or something like that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I'll have to listen back.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, welcome back.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, it's good to be back, America.

[Andy Holloway]

What were you gone like, six, eight weeks? Something like that, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

It's certainly too long.

[Andy Holloway]

Too long.

[Jason Moore]

We replaced a bear with an elephant.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Well, you went to Big Bear Lake.

[Mike Wright]

I technically went to Lake Arrowhead, but it's very close to Big Bear Lake.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Cuz we figured you and J. Griz actually traded. Like habit. I did.

[Mike Wright]

I took care of the baby Grizz.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Very nice.

[Mike Wright]

They're very cute, very cuddly.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you try to swim upstream and. Well, I guess that would make you salmon. That would make you the salmon. That would not make you the bear.

[Mike Wright]

No, we were. We were the catchers. We are the predators.

[Jason Moore]

To eat the salmon, you must become the salmon.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you have a good time?

[Mike Wright]

Great time. That's always a great time with the family. I appreciate the Foot Clan supporting me while I'm on the road.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you see, we had to hold it down. We had three episodes last week. I know the July season is here.

[Jason Moore]

I heard that. We have three episodes again this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Mike's in on these.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I am.

[Andy Holloway]

You can follow us on Twitterballers. We have some exciting news to share with you. We have bounce back players on the show today. So players that each of us believes have a chance to bounce back in 2018 from disappointing 2017 seasons. Some players can do it, others cannot. Ala Des Bryant last year didn't pan out. Adrian Peterson, not exactly a bounce back.

[Jason Moore]

I would say that guys like Todd Gurley and DeAndre Hopkins sure bounced back very well. Last from a down, they absorbed the.

[Mike Wright]

Flubber spray very, very well. So they were very bouncy.

[Andy Holloway]

It's. Yeah. You're. I can see you're back in True form. Mike, are you telling me you don't know flubber?

[Jason Moore]

I know flubber.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't make, I don't make flubber references.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I'm here to do.

[Andy Holloway]

Flubber.

[Jason Moore]

Flubber is great.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, fantastic.

[Jason Moore]

Does that mean that they're coming back down now?

[Mike Wright]

Well, they are, but then they just bounce right back up.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not Doug Martin career.

[Mike Wright]

No, don't ever bring up Doug Martin.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he was one that did not bounce back.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

I believe he was a pick for a bounce back player last year by one of us.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I'm not going to point any fingers.

[Andy Holloway]

We have a great quick question on the show today and I mentioned the Foot Clan giveaway. We're giving away a signed Keenan Allen jersey, signed Stephen Diggs jersey, assigned Deandre Hopkins mini helmet@footclain giveaway.com you can enter for free at footclan giveaway.com so before we get into the quick questions, which I think is a great one, talking about rookie running backs, I want to mention two things. Number one, if you want to simulate a draft like with a, you know, draft practice and then get a grade from us, you can do that for free at draft.thefantasyfootballers.com it's easy. You can practice drafting and then you will get a letter grade from us and a face and a corresponding face of approval or disappointment let you know we mean business. So do that and share it with us.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. If you're used to in years past going to fantasydraftwizard.com that is the same.

[Andy Holloway]

Place, same location, draft.thefantasyfootballers.com for that. And, and then the big news which, you know, I mean, Jason did enough tooting of his own. I think his Twitter profile's been updated. But did you go right in the bio? He did right in the bio. So I'll say this because we mentioned it on the footcast this past week, but now that it's official and the articles out there, the results for draft accuracy from fantasy pros came in over the last couple of days and you can see [e-mail], they have an article that came out ranking 130 experts on draft accuracy and we were fortunate enough to have two experts in the top 10, including Jason finishing at number three. We were the only, the only site with what we had two in season inside the top 14, two draft season inside the top 10. And.

[Jason Moore]

But Andy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

What has happened?

[Andy Holloway]

Why is the voice of Public opinion let it happen.

[Jason Moore]

I thought that you guys were just funny and entertaining, but. But maybe you didn't dig super deep on all the fantasy stuff.

[Andy Holloway]

So I. Look, we try to stay.

[Mike Wright]

Huh. This is some fart sniffing going on right now.

[Jason Moore]

You call me the fart sniffer, I will sniff these farts.

[Andy Holloway]

We try to stay humble here. However, it is validating.

[Jason Moore]

Sounds like popcorn.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason is taking a whiff of his ranking right now. The thing is, is we do from time to time, whether it be on Reddit or on Twitter or something, we get grief for being, you know, we're a goofy show, right? We're three dads. This is a dadly fantasy football podcast. We try to have fun, but we try to win you your league. And I know a lot of you out there. Obviously you've stuck by us year after year and you've won your leagues. So it's just.

[Mike Wright]

You're preaching to the choir right now.

[Andy Holloway]

The people listening to the show, they.

[Jason Moore]

Know what giving them the air.

[Andy Holloway]

All I'm saying is I'm doing a roundabout way of not directly complimenting Jason. I want to compliment the show, but. Jason, nice job.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you. And Mike. Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Well, thank you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And you all three of us. I mean, your rankings were great. Top quarter of all experts for all three of us, two in the top 10.

[Andy Holloway]

But it speaks to the ultimate draft kit and you can expect to get quality, accurate information from that. And we're very excited about that because it's validating to the analysis and the work we do, and we're proud of that. And so that's the announcement I have. Here's the quick question of the day. All right, this one came in. I think we touched on it on the footcast. I love this question. Regardless of the current opportunity, which rookie running back profiles as a true three down back in the event that an opportunity arises? So obviously a lot of rookies came into situations where there is an incumbent or there is an existing platoon of running backs, but somebody like Cream Hunt last year lost Ware right ahead of him, Spencer Ware. And then he showed. He profiled as a three down back, came in and carried the ball a ridiculous amount of times. So what running backs do you see as profiling in that fashion?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I care about this a lot when I scout them. So I've got my rookies broken into basically three tiers of whether or not they are true three down, meaning they're a great pass catcher or they're not to me. And I know we'll argue about this in A little bit as to one of my. Not a three down back, but I have Saquon obviously as a three down back. Kerryon Johnson, Royce Freeman and John Kelly are three guys to me that profile, regardless of their situation in the NFL that they have the skill set to, you know, be well rounded a three down back, be a good pass catcher. I believe that Sony Michelle and Rashad Penny, I believe that they very well might. We saw enough glimmers in college to say I believe they can like I actually believe they can.

[Mike Wright]

I'm sure the draft equity on those two guys. So it's funny that Penny is firmly in the.

[Andy Holloway]

Penny's firmly in the yes category for me.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Well, no, when I say a maybe I'm just saying I. I'm speaking of the film that I saw in college. You add to that their first round draft capital and I think they will be utilized as a three down back. And then to me, Ronald Jones and Nick Chubb, they were not at all pass catchers in college. And here's the big one, Darius Geiss. I do not believe Profiles is a three down back from any of his college production.

[Andy Holloway]

College production. Yeah, I mean he didn't catch the ball a lot, but he did. I think he caught 18 passes last year, which was more than two of Todd Gurley's three seasons in college. So Gurley didn't profile that way either. It's a matter of whether you trust and believe in the player and that's fine. I think Ronald Jones to me is a maybe. He's not a no. And Darius guy, I think Profiles as a full three down back in the way they want to utilize him. Geist would be the one that I've been rising on and targeting in more and more leagues. Mike, how do you weigh in on these guys? Do you view them in the same category?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we're.

[Mike Wright]

We're nearly aligned on these guys. The one I just wanted to highlight here, I wanted to talk about.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

The two guys that if the situation arises I think they will excel the most and that would be. Number one would be. Carry on Johnson. I think that he is the set up in as the most well rounded and Detroit throws to the running back all the time. At least they previously had. I know it's a new regime, but it.

[Jason Moore]

Not really. But it's the same offensive coordinator.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but you still. You have some moving pieces in the management.

[Andy Holloway]

But yeah, Riddick has done that for years and.

[Mike Wright]

But carry on could take that role. And Royce Freeman is a all around back. He's not as talented, in my opinion in the passing game as carry on could be, but he can do everything that you need him to do.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, well, I think we all agree that Nick Chubb is not. Doesn't profile that way.

[Mike Wright]

He certainly doesn't profile that way. But I don't have him as a no. The only guy that to me is a no would be Ronald Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, anything else you guys want to talk about in that department or are we moving on to bounce backs?

[Mike Wright]

Moving on. Hello, everybody. I am back.

[Andy Holloway]

It's always enjoyable to circle around to these episodes.

[Mike Wright]

That is a. A classic.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Vintage fantasy footballers drop.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And you're back today. So.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, double meaning bounce back Fantasy player of the year.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you Instagram that video that you.

[Mike Wright]

I think Brooks took care of it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Brooks, did you Instagram it?

[Mike Wright]

The people are seeing it and tweeted it.

[Andy Holloway]

Very troubling video. Very disturbing.

[Jason Moore]

Very upsetting.

[Andy Holloway]

Very enjoyable too. So bounce back players. We've each selected two guys that disappointed a little bit last year for one reason or another that we believe are going to bounce back in 2018. And I'm going to kick it over to Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I'm back. So I will go first.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Get it over with.

[Mike Wright]

The player I want to bring. Well, I'm going to. I'm saving that one. I'm going to. Because I got to go out with a bang. But my. The first player I want to talk about is Amari Cooper.

[Jason Moore]

Oh.

[Mike Wright]

The thing about Amari Cooper is you got a compliment sandwich. Right. And by compliment sandwich, I actually mean that I'm starting with the bad things because. Yes, nearly half of his yard, the.

[Andy Holloway]

Compliments in the middle and it's just bad on bad.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So it's rye bread. I know you don't like rye bread.

[Mike Wright]

How do people eat rye bread? It's terrible. But nearly half of his yards came in two games.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, that's true.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he had the lowest charted contested catch rate by Matt Harmon's reception perception of all time this past season. But I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. He was coming off of two straight thousand plus yard seasons there. Derek Carr firmly claims, firmly says that Amari Cooper was very injured and he was just gutting through it. Michael Crabtree is gone. That's a hundred plus targets vacated. More importantly, 14 red zone targets and 1110 zone targets. On top of that, we have some. We have, you know, the history of Jon Gruden new coach. His past two years. He did have 1,000 plus yard wide receiver Antonio Bryant, Joey Galloway, and this is my word of warning for Amari Cooper. I don't want.

[Andy Holloway]

I love that Joey Galloway is back in the conversation because of Jake, because of John Gruden.

[Mike Wright]

I don't want to go Julio Jones, Amari Cooper. I don't want to start my draft that way because it won't shock me.

[Andy Holloway]

You'll win every fourth week by 10,000 points.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly. If Amari Cooper has a huge amount of his yards in four games yet again, it will not surprise me. But with the opportunity and the talent, it would shock me at this point if Amari Cooper does not end up as a wide receiver one.

[Jason Moore]

No, I really like the pick. I do believe especially for where he's fallen in drafts. He's going to have a bounce back year. I mean, he's just going to have so much opportunity and he can't possibly be as bad if he does last year.

[Andy Holloway]

If he doesn't, people will not say anything.

[Mike Wright]

They'll say, this is next year, Mark Rupert's year.

[Andy Holloway]

No, it's over.

[Mike Wright]

Well, he's got 2,000 yard seasons already.

[Andy Holloway]

It doesn't matter.

[Jason Moore]

So next year he'll be only 25 years old.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, you want me to go or you?

[Mike Wright]

Jay?

[Jason Moore]

I'll kick in here.

[Mike Wright]

Andy, give your Amari Cooper take. Do you have him? Is it. You won't be surprised if he's a wide receiver one or you are expecting he will be a wide receiver one.

[Andy Holloway]

The first one.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like everything is lined up for him. He was a productive college player. He's a productive NFL player. He had it, he's had it rough. I mean, you wonder what's between the ears when it comes to the drops and the contested catches and the confidence of the offensive pieces to kind of give him the ball when the game's on the line or when they're in the red zone. Like I know he can catch the ball on a slant route at their own 20 and run it a long ways. It's just a matter of this is the area has to put it together for me to buy into him as being a great talent. And do you think we'll see? I mean, he's lowest on my ranks than anybody because I can see, I can see things turning against him if he doesn't perform. So.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, they obviously invested in Jordy Nelson. Whether we believe Jordy's, you know, too old to produce. They felt like he was a better investment than Michael Crabtree. They bring Jordan. They brought in Martavis Bryant via trade. I just. I know this has got to be the year for him.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

All right. My bounce back candidate is a guy that, you know, I've talked about a little bit this offseason. I'm much higher on than you two and I believe that he will absolutely bounce back. It is Marcus Mariatu.

[Mike Wright]

Look, Mariota, don't they have a bounce back? Right?

[Jason Moore]

He was two years ago. He was the quarterback 13.

[Mike Wright]

Sweet. Quarterback two. All right.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just. Okay. He was one spot off of the quarterback one. He was high.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no. He was 12 spots out of the quarterback one.

[Jason Moore]

He was.

[Mike Wright]

If you lose a game by one point, you have still lost the game.

[Jason Moore]

Would you say that he was so he's almost.

[Andy Holloway]

Almost startable. A couple. Do you think he can get back almost startable?

[Jason Moore]

Do you think he was highly drafted last year with big expectations that did not come true? No, he had a down year. I'm saying that those expectations were what? Maybe, maybe instead of bounce back, you can call this a post hype sleeper.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I just re. I just reread the Evan Silva Tennessee Titans preview from last year and it reminded me how much hype there was around Mariota and the opportunity that they had. There was a lot.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

There was hope that he might actually be in the top 13.

[Jason Moore]

Well, put it this way. He was in the top 12 after three weeks last year got off to a great start. And then in week four, that's where he pulled up with the hammy.

[Andy Holloway]

Didn't he break his leg the year that he finished QB13? To Jason's point.

[Jason Moore]

Right. There was only.

[Andy Holloway]

He would have been inside the 12.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. He would have been a quarterback one.

[Mike Wright]

He.

[Jason Moore]

He was a quarterback one for those first three weeks. Then he pulls his hammy misses week five and half of week four. But during that time before he. Before he pulled the hammy, he was on pace, a rushing pace for four.

[Andy Holloway]

I just like hearing him say my ham. His hammy for four. It's not a hamstring, it's a hammy.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

It's more delicious that are there moons over your hammy?

[Jason Moore]

You're darn right there. The first four weeks before he got injured, he was on a rushing pace of 464 yards. He had three touchdowns on the ground during that time. The rest of the season. The rest of the season he only had 196 yards which would be a 285, 16 game pace. So you could tell that I like when there's not just after the Year you go, a guy was injured and we're not sure was he or was he not, but there is evidence here of exactly what happened. He wore a knee brace most of last season. That has been shed. The reports out of camp are that he's looking fast. And more importantly, they got rid of the bad, slow offense. You know, Marcus Mariota is a guy that I think 453 is his highest passing attempts in his career. You know, middle of the pack. Russell Wilson was like 100 more than that last season. So if his passing attempts go up, his rushing is able to be a big part of his game going forward. I think he's a quarterback one this next season and he's being drafted very, very, very late.

[Andy Holloway]

Feel like you're digging in on Mariota a lot lately.

[Jason Moore]

Well, that's because I've been bringing his name up a lot lately because I believe in it.

[Andy Holloway]

I know you do. I know you do. It's just a lot of ifs there.

[Jason Moore]

Aren't you the Corey Davis truth, or.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I believe in Corey Davis getting that guy the ball. Yeah. Marcus Mariota.

[Jason Moore]

It's nice to have a good weapon.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm bringing Ty Hilton back.

[Jason Moore]

I think Andrew Luck is bringing Ty Hilton back.

[Andy Holloway]

Last year was rough for Ty Hilton because he had a couple of monster games and then he was pretty much unstartable. But the four years prior to last season, he finished 19th, 11th, 21st and fifth, including leading the league in receiving yards. And if you look at the metrics from last season, even though he struggled to find consistency due to bad quarterback play, look, he's. The metrics were there. He was still, you know, 25% of his catches were 20 plus yards. He was the same Ty Hilton. Off season reports are solid. He's 27 years old. That's. That's wide receiver prime. And I think he can bounce back to that. You know, I have him at 11, so. So I think he's a wide receiver one again in 2018. And yeah, it's dependent on Andrew Luck. So you are a significant degree.

[Mike Wright]

But even you're bought into Andrew Luck.

[Andy Holloway]

Even if Luck isn't back, I still think Ty Hilton is a top 20 guy. He finished 25th last year with no Andrew Luck, and he'll have a better rapport with whoever is behind Luck.

[Mike Wright]

You know, it'll be Jaci.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, with Jacobi. Yeah. And so I think he's a top 20 guy no matter what. And then I think he's a top 12 guy with Andrew Luck. As the bounce back candidate for next year. So I have a lot of confidence in Ty Hilton.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Yeah, it's Ty Hilton. Everything is on Andrew Luck for me. I would disagree if Jacoby Brissette is the quarterback and I mean that's.

[Andy Holloway]

Look at Devonte Adams last year.

[Mike Wright]

Right?

[Andy Holloway]

Right. He had no Aaron Rodgers and the talent overwhelmed the situation and he had worse quarterback play than Jacoby.

[Mike Wright]

Certainly. They're just, they're very different wide receivers and I mean we, we have a season of Ty Hilton playing without Andrew Luck and it's good like you said about his yardage, 62% still almost a.

[Andy Holloway]

Wide receiver too overall, but yeah, but.

[Mike Wright]

Not 2% of his yards in, in 1/4 of his games. I mean that's, you can't, can't bank.

[Andy Holloway]

No, he won, he won your week for you. If you started him by pure luck.

[Jason Moore]

It'S like Drew Brees last year where he finished as a quarterback one, but he killed you almost every single week.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

All right, I got, I got to talk you into somebody.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, you do.

[Mike Wright]

Not just.

[Jason Moore]

I'm listening.

[Mike Wright]

Not these, just two compadres here, but the football.

[Andy Holloway]

Now you're not normally a rule follower, Mike, but it seems like in this.

[Mike Wright]

Case, well, there is a, there is an important rule that it fell apart this past season. But 2015, this player was the tight end 2 in 14. In 2016 this player was the tight end 9 in only 12 games. 2017, everything fell apart. And I'm of course talking about Jordan Reed, starting tight end for Washington. I was looking [e-mail] and they break things down for in a simple way and you can see that the new quarterback, Alex Smith. Since 2007, Alex Smith has supported a tight end one in every single one of his seasons. Except for once.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm assuming that would be Vernon Davis and Travis Kelsey.

[Mike Wright]

That is correct. Alex Smith has supported a top two tight end four times.

[Andy Holloway]

That's pretty impressive.

[Mike Wright]

Jordan Reed is still being paid to play. He will be the sixth highest paid tight end in football, I believe.

[Andy Holloway]

He's only 27, isn't he?

[Mike Wright]

I don't have his age right in front of him.

[Andy Holloway]

He's very old. I know when you look at in human years, his body ligament years is different.

[Mike Wright]

His body is in a very bad condition. He's coming off of another off season surgery fixing up his toes. He has concussion issues. But you don't have to pay full price for Jordan Reed fixing up his toes.

[Andy Holloway]

He's got to fix up them toes.

[Jason Moore]

You know, like a lot of the.

[Andy Holloway]

Guys have to fix them Up.

[Mike Wright]

Look, if you've ever ran with bad toes, it's.

[Andy Holloway]

You need them.

[Mike Wright]

Sucks. But Jordan Reed, right now I'm checking out his adp.

[Andy Holloway]

This little piggy went to the market.

[Mike Wright]

He is going at the back of the eighth round. And as much as I love Trey Burton, as much as we all love Trey. Boo. Boo.

[Andy Holloway]

And we're draft Reed over Burton.

[Mike Wright]

I don't. I don't know if I would. But here's the thing.

[Jason Moore]

You're on the clock. You've got one spot left. It's a tight end. And there's only two available.

[Andy Holloway]

All right?

[Mike Wright]

I would take Trey Burton.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

But I'm just. Trey Burton is an unproven full, full length season player. Delaney Walker.

[Andy Holloway]

Great toes, though.

[Mike Wright]

Those Burton toes, they are legendary in the Burton household.

[Jason Moore]

Bear claws.

[Mike Wright]

Delaney Walker. Jason, close your ears. Kyle Rudolph. These are guys all going ahead of Jordan Reed. And like I said, okay, maybe you don't get a full 16 games from Jordan Reed. You're aware of this. You know that you can grab someone off the waiver wire. But tight into 14 games, I would take Jordan Reed. 12 games.

[Andy Holloway]

I would take Jordan Reed ahead of Kyrudo.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, come on.

[Andy Holloway]

I want hg.

[Jason Moore]

Let's water bet that.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's what I want. I don't want a chance at the Titans. Eight or nine or. I don't want the guaranteed tight end. Eight or nine. Maybe I'll give Rudolph the credit for that. I want a chance at what you brought up with Jordan Reed. Smith has supported a top two tight end four times. I want a chance at a top two tight end.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I will say this.

[Andy Holloway]

The Alex Reed is a chance of that.

[Jason Moore]

The Alex Smith numbers are very telling. And it actually gives me a lot of confidence in Vernon Davis. I think that he'll have a great season because he supports tight ends and he'll be the starting tight end in short order.

[Mike Wright]

Look.

[Andy Holloway]

Now that's funny right there.

[Jason Moore]

Draft Jordan Reed and Vernon Davis and you'll have. That's actually not. That's one situation.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's what will happen. Reed will stay healthy the whole year. Davis will somehow outperform him.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Jordan Reed.

[Andy Holloway]

Like an old flame.

[Mike Wright]

2018. We're bringing rule 86 back.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, goodness. Are you.

[Mike Wright]

We're bringing it back. Jordan Reed.

[Andy Holloway]

You got the dust off that T shirt.

[Mike Wright]

He's playing at least 12 games.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's a hot take.

[Andy Holloway]

It is at least 12 games.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You realize. Is he three quarters of the season.

[Jason Moore]

Can I ask a question? Is he healthy right now?

[Mike Wright]

I don't believe so.

[Jason Moore]

That is correct. Okay, so my next bounce, it's his toes. Well, he still needs those.

[Andy Holloway]

Can he play in roller skates? Is that permissible?

[Mike Wright]

It's only if you can get the ill advised. If you remember the cartoon all stars, I think that's what it called where Wayne Gretzky had the shoes and he could push the button and the rollerblades popped out. Yeah, those are permissible.

[Andy Holloway]

I loved that show.

[Mike Wright]

It was a great show.

[Andy Holloway]

All two episodes.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. My next bounce back candidate is a guy that I genuinely believe will have a great season.

[Andy Holloway]

I like this pick.

[Jason Moore]

I've said this for years, that he very well might be my favorite player to watch. I just love how he runs routes, fights for the ball. He's got a heart for football. And that's Emmanuel Sanders. He has spent the last three seasons before last season as a wide receiver two or better. And then last season he was the wide receiver 61. This was a combination. This was a combination of both injury and horrific quarterback play. I am on record as a Case Keenum believer. I don't sit here and say that Case Keenum is a top 10 quarterback, but I believe he is a good quarterback. He is, you know, in that over the last few years, you know, you think back three years ago and there was a lot of conversation as to whether Kirk Cousins was a real quarterback or whether he had a good year. That, that's kind of the type of quarterback that I see in. In case Keenum. Case Keenum coming in a healthy season. You know, I think both Demarious Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders take a step forward. But he, Emmanuel Sanders was, you know, Demarius Thomas disappointed but he was still a serviceable fantasy asset. Emmanuel Sanders was irrelevant last season. He's going to be a late round value to me where a guy that in those middle to late rounds I can get a guy that I believe will be a wide receiver too on the season as opposed to having to shoot for the moon and take, you know, your 5% chance on a player that he could be a wide receiver. 1. I'm just going to take the tried and true. He's not, you know, he's 30 years old, which is not the age that wide receivers fall off. So I believe he bounces back. There's a lot of, a lot of.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, you're a pretty big Emanuel Sanders fan.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I love Sanders and I'm with Jason and he was in consideration for me on the bounce back but I had to proclamate my love for Jordan Reed yet again. And I'm looking at the average draft position. That's where it's interesting for Demarys Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders in recent years it's been, you know, I'll take the discount. I'll take Sanders because he's going around a round or two after Demarius Thomas. I mean, it's a big split right now. It nearly.

[Andy Holloway]

Where are they going?

[Mike Wright]

So Sanders is going at the 710 and Demarius Thomas is going at the 407. Yeah, which, that's great value on both of them, honestly. But to get Sanders in the seventh round, I'm with Jason. I think he's a wide receiver too.

[Jason Moore]

He is currently my wide receiver. 22 according to my rankings.

[Andy Holloway]

That is aggressive.

[Jason Moore]

And he. Well, I mean it's a low end too, which is what he's been the last, you know, every year except for this past season. And I think he bounces back to that. Right now he's being drafted as the wide receiver. 34.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that's a pretty bold take. I think it's fine. I don't disagree with it. I think competency at the quarterback position is kind of important. All right. My final bounce back candidate, it's Greg Olson. Greg Olson is 33 years old. There were rumors about him stepping into the booth and walking away from football. And I know Jason's brought up his fears of the foot injury recurring. But you know what gives me confidence in any player recovering to play a full season? It would be nine consecutive years of playing a full season, 144 straight games. He was an ironman and I believe that he's healthy and he's going to play and he played.

[Mike Wright]

Jason Whitten thinks it's cute.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah, Jason Wilton thinks it's cute. What Olson did. Look, his 2016 line was standard. Greg Olson, 80 receptions, 1073 yards, three touchdowns. Last year he was 17 for 191 and 1 due to the foot injury. He's already got the rapport with Cam Newton, who's my favorite fantasy quarterback based on average draft position and opportunity. His finishes. Greg Olson was 67453 before the injury and I don't really see any way that he is not a top seven tight end if he stays healthy. And so I think the odds are that he stays healthy. I'm not going to bet he gets hurt and therefore I think he is a great bounce back candidate. Greg Olson is as reliable as they get and I think we've got more time with Greg Olson, before we have to have him hang him up.

[Mike Wright]

I will say it. He was pretty disappointing to start the year.

[Andy Holloway]

He. He had a. If you want to look at his targets per game, I believe they were down a little bit to start the year.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I mean, week one, he was two for 18. Week two was one for 10. Of course, that was when he hurt his foot. I know he had the two monster games.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a couple games. Yeah, right.

[Mike Wright]

He had the two monster games of the playoff game, over 100 yards with a touchdown. The game against Green Bay, over 100 with a touchdown. And generally I do agree with Andy that Greg Olson is going to bounce back, but there, there is a slight amount of pause for me when, when you're taking Greg Olson because you got to grab him. What, that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's right now the sixth round. He's the fifth tight end off the board.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, he is. He's not. Him or Hilton aren't really values, but I wasn't factoring that into the bounce back aspect.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, and you don't need to.

[Andy Holloway]

It's more whether they performed to where they're being drafted. And I think both of them will. Didn't he just sign a contract extension as well? I mean, he's 33, but he just signed, I believe, a two year, $17 million contract. And so they look at him as a staple of the offense. And while I like DJ Moore, he is of no threat to me to what Greg Olson provides to that offense. So I like him. If I can snag him, I think I'm going to be happy. I think I'm going to get great performances when he scores that touchdown. But otherwise he's going to be pretty good in PPR formats.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Anything else?

[Mike Wright]

Nope.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's. Let's answer some questions.

[Jason Moore]

Mailbag. Mail bag. So much better than me.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, did you hear. Did you hear Jason's.

[Mike Wright]

I heard a mail bag. Something like that. Hey, guys.

[Jason Moore]

It wasn't good.

[Andy Holloway]

I told him, like, you didn't hear him do it on the foot cast?

[Mike Wright]

No, I did not.

[Andy Holloway]

But he. In the foot cast. He was. It was. The first half was great. And the second half he was afraid, like he lost confidence and it would have finished great. Like, he did it and so I wanted him to see it. I was like, just be confident.

[Jason Moore]

I went for it.

[Andy Holloway]

He just started in like a mail bag. Hey, everybody. All right.

[Jason Moore]

We're.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, we're glad you're back, Mike. We're glad someone said that you have no greater job security. Than listening to the mailbag drop when we're gone.

[Mike Wright]

At least I can do that. Maybe I'll be kicked off the show and I'll just pop in from the mailbag.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I. Putting yourself out there with Jordan Reed is a risky business. Risky business Mike. He's the kind of candidate you back silently in the shadows. He's not the kind that you call.

[Mike Wright]

No, I've gotta expose it to the world.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, well, you can. He's all yours. If you have a question for the podcast, go to the fantasy footballers dot com, click the Submit a question button or dial our voicemail hotline. 302464, TFFB. We learned last week that I'm the only one that knows that number, as I gave Jason the opportunity to say it a couple of times and he was unsuccessful. Let's jump into a voicemail question.

[Mike Wright]

Hey there ballers. Adrian from Tulsa Bullpoint ppr, quarter point.

[Andy Holloway]

Per carry and I'm flirting with the idea of three straight running backs. Can you help me out here? Thank you. Yeah. My answer to that question is that sure, if, if that's the best player on the board, I don't have a problem with you ending up with three straight running backs. I generally have a problem with you deciding before the draft that you're going to have three straight running backs because that will possibly eliminate great value on your roster if you lock yourself in beforehand. You can keep that in there as a. I'm going to be happy with it if they're the best three players on the board. That's how I'd look at it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I completely agree. It's, it's good to at least get the, the thought process going and working out just some mental exercises of what your team would look like. Hopefully you have a top five pick because those, those top five running backs, you know, Gurley, Lev and carry counts and David Johnson, who are going to see the 100 targets or whatever and then get the 200 plus carries. It's a nice security blanket for your team.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, if you're not that high, maybe even a fournette jumps up a little bit because he's going to have so many carries, the quarter point per carry would be fine. Yeah, I completely agree with Andy's take on that. I mean, if a great third running back drop.

[Mike Wright]

But here's the thing. But a quarter point per carry. But he said it's a full point. PBR. So if you're in the second round, I'm not valuing Fournette over someone.

[Andy Holloway]

Derek McKinnon is going to be good in that league format.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he will. But I'm saying against a wide receiver in the second round, if you're looking at. Okay, well, I got Howard and Fournette who they're going to carry the ball a ton. I'm still going to draft someone like Keenan Allen over those players.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure, sure, that makes sense. Andy in Philadelphia says, hey, footballers, love the show and your insights. One thing you don't really talk about are two tight end league formats. What is the strategy for drafting in those leagues? Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

Well, yeah, we don't talk about two tight end league formats very often because they are, they're much more rare. Usually it's just tight ends can flex in. In which case it's still a one tight end league. If you have to play two tight ends, there's a clear advantage to getting one of. You basically have to have one of the tried and true guys, you know what I mean? And I'm not saying you need to have a Gronk Ertz Kelsey that would be helpful depending on where you're at in your draft. But you need to make sure that your first tight end isn't a complete question mark past the Trey Burton tier, you know, and then you're if you can have one to plug a spot and then just completely stream the other position. And you can also value some of the higher, you know, really low end tight end guys that are being drafted who have the potential. Mike's brought up Vance McDonald, I like Ricky Seals, Jones, Austin Seferian, Jenkins, even David Njoku. Those are guys that you can get really late who have a chance to be an every week starter.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's move on to another voicemail. Hey guys, it's Nick from New York but school Vikings question about drafting multiple players from the same team. You've mentioned it before. Not to stress too much about it, but I did a mock earlier in the week. That was when I looked at the end Kurt Cousins, Kyle Rudolph, Dalvin Cook and Adam Phelan.

[Jason Moore]

And to me it seems like too.

[Andy Holloway]

Many guys from the same team. Want to know your thoughts if you think it's problematic. Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

The rare four packs.

[Andy Holloway]

The easy fix there is obviously don't draft Kyle Rudolph.

[Jason Moore]

Oh.

[Mike Wright]

If you think that the Minnesota Vikings are going to score like the Peyton Manning Denver Broncos, then go for it.

[Andy Holloway]

That was the Demarius Sanders, Julius Thomas.

[Mike Wright]

No, Sean Moreno.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

The problem is, is the real issue of ever having those situations, even when they're good ones. Let's Say you don't have Rudolph, which I think we'd all drop out of that group if we had to pick one.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Even if you don't have Rudolph, one guy can score on that drive. Right. I mean, I guess if you have Cousins, he can throw it to your player and then you get two. But you limit some of the upside. And if the team has a down week, you have trouble. There are teams that can sustain it. No doubt about it. Before would be too much for me.

[Jason Moore]

Minnesota's defense is too good to allow all four of those guys to go off in a game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. Let's go over here to Daniel in Charleston, South Carolina at 1. At what running back carry percentage do you start considering it a running back committee. So example is it when running back A has 60% and B has 30% C has 10%. Are you hesitant on RBA because this is an RBC Wow. Letters or is the percentages not high enough? So what do you. How do you look at that? See, to me it's actually more about the carry count that the second player gets.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Right. I agree with that.

[Mike Wright]

And I'll say if you have the ultimate draft kit, go check out the, the market share report and you can actually see what kind of carry percentage were these guys getting. And you might be surprised that the numbers are not as high as you think they will be. For example, the. I'll just pick a name. Devonta Freeman. And now I know I missed a couple games, but he was, he had the 20th highest percentage of carries from the running back position of his team. He was at 51%. I mean you want. It would be great to have that Le'Veon Bell 80%. That's just not the norm. But if you're getting a guy who's in that 60% range, that's great.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's. That's near workhorse fear of 60%. Absolutely. And one thing I would say is that I don't just look at carry counts alone because you know, as, as I brought up earlier like Chris Thompson, he's not going to get a bunch of carry counts. But when you've got a guy that is the clear take over the pass catching roles, that then is an RBBC as well.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And a target is more valuable than a carry.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Caleb in Missouri, Tevin Coleman, Adam Thielen and the 210. So that's one option.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

So having Coleman, Thielen 210 or Tyrell Williams, Leonard Fournette. So this is a dynasty Trade. What side do you want? Tyrell Williams and Leonard Fournette or Coleman Thielen in the 210.

[Mike Wright]

Coleman Thielen, 210.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would agree.

[Mike Wright]

I think, I think Adam Thielen is very, very close to an elite fantasy wide receiver and we love.

[Andy Holloway]

He's not necessarily a long term dynasty. He's.

[Mike Wright]

He's got at least a few years. I mean what's the shelf life of Leonard Fournette?

[Andy Holloway]

That's true. Three or four more years.

[Mike Wright]

I mean he could, he could be an Emmett Smith. We don't know.

[Jason Moore]

Thielen's only 27 and it's just, it's.

[Mike Wright]

So much easier to replace a running back in rookie drafts than it is to find a high level wide receiver. So it's, it's the. And Coleman next year you have that wild card of the free agent. Maybe he gets a great job.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe he goes and McKinnon's.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, maybe he takes, maybe he takes McKinnon's job next year.

[Andy Holloway]

No thanks. Being the Jerick McKinnon dynasty owner. No thank you. I'll pass.

[Mike Wright]

That contract is very front loaded so that they can move on.

[Andy Holloway]

If he stinks, hopefully his statistical out.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think he will just front.

[Andy Holloway]

Loaded as well so he can keep the job. Scott and Tucson Arizona in a keeper league. Do I keep David Johnson in the first round or Michael Thomas? Oh, in the eighth round.

[Mike Wright]

Oh my.

[Andy Holloway]

Michael Thomas.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. It's Michael Thomas for me.

[Andy Holloway]

It is for me as well.

[Mike Wright]

If it's standard, is it still Michael Thomas?

[Andy Holloway]

Either way, here's how you answer the question. Do you want. Imagine, imagine who you would draft in the first round and then add Michael Thomas to him and decide whether you want that more than David Johnson.

[Mike Wright]

It's. It's Michael Thomas. That value is too good.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe you get Devonta Freeman in the first round. If you said Michael Thomas with him.

[Mike Wright]

If you said okay, is DJ in the first or Michael Thomas in the fourth, you guys still go Michael Thomas.

[Jason Moore]

It would. No, no.

[Mike Wright]

I just wanted to see where the value breaks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean in the fourth round you're still getting quality players. In the eighth round you're starting to, you know, you can't grab anything near a Michael Thomas, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Even a Michael Thomas. I mean it's nice because you can say Michael Thomas or you could sing David Johnson's name. So you have the.

[Jason Moore]

Either way, you're set.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's go one more here. Mark in Dallas, since we're going to be in Dallas on Thursday, Mark, you better be there. We'll be at the live show on Friday.

[Jason Moore]

In fact, if you are listening and you are in Dallas right now, you better be there.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Ballerslive.com and bring me some Torchy's tacos.

[Andy Holloway]

You're a very demanding, please person.

[Jason Moore]

Us.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Mark wants to know, is yours the best job in the world? Pretty sure. Half of the Foot Clan ponders this on a daily basis while we all toil away in corporate America, so. Well, is it the best job in the world?

[Mike Wright]

I can't complain. I hate to break it to you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it is. I mean, yeah, I love our job.

[Andy Holloway]

We now, Brooks, on the other hand. Brooks, how are you handling things over there? I'm doing all right. Yeah. Getting by. No, it's great. It's great.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

We're very, very thankful. You know, we put our families first, which is something that you can't always do in, you know.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I guess you'd say we have the opportunity to do that since we crafted this right from the start and so very fortunate to get to do it. We try not to take advantage of that, take it for granted. We're very thankful for the support we have. Thankful that we get to own and run it the way we want to. We want to keep doing this for a long time because it is a great job. And those Foot Clan titles, they're pretty nice. Pretty nice as well. So don't forget, you can head over to footclangiveaway.com to grab an opportunity at a sweet powder blue Keenan Allen autographed.

[Mike Wright]

Jersey from my cold, dead hands.

[Andy Holloway]

I was gonna say Mike, straight up. He said he ordered. I'll be honest with you. He ordered two Keenan Allen jerseys. He ordered a regular Charger Keenan Allen jersey. So, like the dark blue navy. Then he ordered a powder blue. And I said, today, I said, let's give the better one to the Foot Clan.

[Mike Wright]

Andy loves you, Foot Clan.

[Andy Holloway]

And the Powder Poo is the better one. And then a signed DeAndre Hopkins mini helmet and a signed Stefan diggs jersey. So Mr. Viking out there, go get it. Footclangiveaway.com is your chance to do that. Completely free to enter. And thanks for listening. Mike, great to have you back.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you. It's good to be back and, you know, it was great while I was in California.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, did you play some draft draft.com ballers?

[Mike Wright]

Play some basketball? Getting that championship? Win that hundred grand?

[Jason Moore]

Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter the Ffballers.