Buy/Sell + Let’s Talk Trades, A Healthy Beating

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: "Buy/Sell + Let’s Talk Trades, A Healthy Beating"

Release Date: October 9, 2019
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
Podcast: Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast

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Introduction

The episode kicks off with a casual and engaging conversation among the hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. They share personal anecdotes about sleep patterns and set a friendly, conversational tone for the episode.

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Buy or Sell Segment

In this segment, the hosts analyze various players, deciding whether to 'buy' (invest in) or 'sell' (remove) them from their fantasy football rosters based on recent performances and future projections.

1. James Conner vs. JuJu Smith-Schuster ([04:23] - [05:17])

   • Jason Moore: "I will buy 75 total yards for James Conner."
   • Mike Wright: "I think he gets over 75 yards. If you're combining both rushing and passing."
   • Conclusion: Both hosts agree to buy James Conner's total yards, but Mike opts to sell JuJu Smith-Schuster due to a tough matchup against the Chargers.

2. Joe Mixon vs. Odell Beckham Jr. ([05:27] - [07:36])

   • Jason Moore: Buys Joe Mixon against Baltimore, predicting a strong performance.
   • Mike Wright: Decides to sell Joe Mixon, doubting Baltimore's defense will hold up.
   • Odell Beckham Jr.: Both hosts agree to buy Beckham, anticipating a "healthy beating" of his recent performance metrics.

3. Mark Andrews ([07:36] - [09:19])

   • Jason Moore: Buys Mark Andrews to return him to the top five tight ends.
   • Mike Wright: Initially considers selling but ultimately agrees to buy Andrews, citing favorable matchups and key teammates potentially being unavailable.

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News and Notes ([10:13] - [16:25])

The hosts discuss recent NFL news, focusing on player injuries and team dynamics:

• Chris Herndon Injury ([10:20] - [12:00])

  • Jason Moore: Announces Chris Herndon is out due to a hamstring injury.
  • Mike Wright: Criticizes the team's vague communication about injuries, emphasizing the frustration with coach's evasive comments.

• Cam Newton and Josh Rosen ([12:09] - [16:25])

  • Discussion: Cam Newton is ruled out for Week 6 against the Buccaneers. Josh Rosen is confirmed as the starting quarterback for the remainder of the season, with potential trade considerations discussed.
  • Mike Wright: Suggests stashing Cam Newton if possible, but expresses uncertainty about his return after the bye week.
  • Jason Moore: Recommends leveraging Rosen’s position in trades, especially for teams holding high draft picks.

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Let’s Talk Trades ([19:25] - [42:21])

A deep dive into trade strategies, favorite trade targets, and players to watch:

1. Trade Targets:

   • Le'Veon Bell ([20:08] - [22:18])

     • Mike Wright: "Le'Veon Bell is an absolutely perfect trade target. He's been pretty disappointing recently, but his schedule is opening up nicely."
     • Jason Moore: Agrees, highlighting Bell's volume potential despite current underperformance.

   • Amari Cooper ([23:20] - [25:59])

     • Jason Moore: Advocates trading for Cooper, emphasizing his consistent performance and potential for high fantasy points.
     • Mike Wright: Supports the move, noting Cooper's impressive yardage and target volume.

   • Kyler Murray ([29:50] - [32:56])

     • Jason Moore: Sees Murray as a buy-low opportunity with increasing comfort in the offense.
     • Mike Wright: Highlights Murray's improved target depth and dual-threat capabilities.

   • Josh Gordon ([28:34] - [30:36])

     • Mike Wright: Interested in acquiring Gordon for his potential to produce big weeks.
     • Jason Moore: Cautious about Gordon's inconsistency but acknowledges his upside.

2. Players to Sell:

   • O.J. Howard ([22:18] - [23:10])

     • Mike Wright: Returns to his stance on selling Howard, finding him unreliable despite potential breakout.

   • Jordan Howard ([36:24] - [38:39])

     • Mike Wright: Suggests flipping Howard due to uncertain future performance.
     • Jason Moore: Open to buying him from others, noting his effectiveness as a goal-line back.

   • Mark Ingram ([40:51] - [42:21])

     • Mike Wright: Considers selling Ingram for potential upgrades or lateral moves.
     • Jason Moore: Discusses trading Ingram for higher-performing running backs like Chris Carson.

3. Additional Trade Discussions:

   • Robert Woods vs. Mike Evans and DJ Chark ([43:09] - [44:04])

     • Mike Wright: Prefers trading Woods for Evans, aiming for higher consistency.

   • Aaron Jones vs. Keenan Allen ([44:22] - [44:50])

     • Both Hosts: Agree to trade high-performing running backs like Aaron Jones for elite wide receivers like Keenan Allen.

   • Derek Henry vs. Odell Beckham Jr. ([44:35] - [45:59])

     • Mike Wright: Chooses Henry over Beckham, valuing Henry's consistent performance.

   • Mark Andrews and Other Player Trades ([46:16] - [48:56])

     • Mike and Jason: Navigate various trade offers, balancing positional needs and player performance trends.

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Rapid Round: Trade Questions from Listeners ([43:02] - [50:00])

The hosts respond to listener-submitted trade scenarios, providing insights and recommendations based on player performance and team dynamics.

• Example Trades:
  • Robert Woods for Mike Evans: Both hosts agree to this trade, valuing Evans' consistent performance.
  • Aaron Jones for Keenan Allen or Cooper Kupp: Preference is given to acquiring top-tier wide receivers by trading high-performing running backs.
  • Chris Carson for Le'Veon Bell and DK Metcalf: Considers upgrading running back positions while enhancing wide receiver depth.

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Thursday Night Breakdown ([50:05] - [56:54])

Analyzing the upcoming Thursday night NFL matchup between the New York Giants and the New England Patriots:

• Giants vs. Patriots Analysis ([50:09] - [56:54])
  • Jason Moore: Highlights the Patriots' dominant defense, predicting a challenging game for the Giants.
  • Mike Wright: Emphasizes the Patriots' defensive prowess, suggesting minimal fantasy impact from Giants players like Golden Tate.
  • Key Takeaways:
    • Patriots are 16.5-point favorites with a strong defensive record.
    • Giants struggle offensively without key players like Saquon Barkley and Evan Ingram.
    • Fantasy managers are advised to avoid starting Giants players in this matchup due to unfavorable conditions.

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Conclusion

The episode concludes with promotional mentions of sponsors like Pristine Auction and a reminder to listeners to engage with the podcast community online. The hosts reinforce the importance of strategic trading and staying informed to maximize fantasy football success.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jason Moore ([03:06]): "Cooper ended up the wide receiver 3, Dak the quarterback 5. It didn't feel that way for most of the game."

• Mike Wright ([04:23]): "I think it's an easy line. It's an easy buy for me."

• Jason Moore ([21:08]): "He's not destroying your team, even with the production he's giving you right now because he's, you know, he's doing what..."

• Mike Wright ([22:18]): "O.J. Howard for me is... it's not going to keep getting better as the season goes on."

• Jason Moore ([44:22]): "Aaron Jones is not getting four rushing touchdowns in a game again this year."

• Mike Wright ([54:36]): "This is the easiest game imaginable."

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This detailed summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and conclusions from the "Buy/Sell + Let’s Talk Trades, A Healthy Beating" episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. It provides valuable information for fantasy football enthusiasts looking to optimize their team strategies.

Transcript

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the Finish Fantasy Footballers podcast coming to you from pristineauction.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome in.

[Mike Wright]

Glad to be here.

[Jason Moore]

Good morning, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, whenever you're listening.

[Mike Wright]

Good evening, good evening.

[Jason Moore]

It's morning for me. It's a hat morning.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that means you stink.

[Jason Moore]

A hundred percent of hat mornings come on days when I have to bring something my kids forgot in their backpacks to school for them and drop them off before work. Believe it or not, those are perfectly corollary statistics. Yeah. Welcome in Wednesday, October 9, the fantasy footballers podcast. Mike Wright. Jason Moore. I'm Andy Holloway. Excited to be with you. Find us on twitter at the ffballers. The website's the fantasy footballers.com still giving away a signed Sakewon jersey. Footclangiveaway.com if you want in on that. How you guys doing today?

[Mike Wright]

Doing pretty well. I got a solid 11 hours of sleep.

[Jason Moore]

This was like a child's amount of sleep.

[Mike Wright]

It was insane. Well, yeah, I mean, I went to bed before my children.

[Jason Moore]

Your brain's still developing.

[Mike Wright]

Well, we hope, but we. Yeah, we were watching a movie as a family, fell asleep and then I decided when that was over, I was like, yeah, I'm just going to bed.

[Jason Moore]

You're gonna roll it into the full sleep.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And I am usually the opposite. I'm like five and a half hours. Like midnight is pretty much bedtime. Or at least when you go upstairs. Time. 7:30 for me last night.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

Nicely done.

[Jason Moore]

You're gonna be so sharp this morning.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Or not awake yet. One of the. We're going to find out. It's going to be exciting.

[Jason Moore]

Mike, you doing all right?

[Mike Wright]

I am doing mighty fine this morning.

[Jason Moore]

Good.

[Mike Wright]

Mighty fine.

[Jason Moore]

All right. It's Wednesday.

[Andy Holloway]

Buy or Sell, Presented by Pristine Auction.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Last week we did an NFC east edition of Buy or sell. Jason came out on top. He was right on three of the five by ourselves.

[Mike Wright]

Right on everything except the Cowboys. The Cowboys offense I didn't see having as much success with Dak and Cooper, but they did.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Cooper ended up the wide receiver 3, Dak the quarterback 5. It didn't feel that way for most of the game. But that game, that was one of those matchups. Sometimes games go really, really fast. Too fast. As a fantasy owner, you want more time. If you're a Patrick Mahomes owner, it was just. The clock was dripping away. It was painful, yes. The Colts were wasting the clock in this. In this game. It seemed like it lasted forever. I mean, teams were scoring quickly and.

[Mike Wright]

I couldn't believe it. Especially considering you watch the beginning of that game. You go, oh, yeah, Dax stinks. This is one of those down games. They actually have a competitive matchup. Two picks right off the bat. Bad news. Oh, nope. There, he's on fire. They're doing just fine. This game is going to last forever.

[Jason Moore]

And you were right. Zach Ertz broke the touchdown drought. Got his first touchdown of the year. All right, we're doing an AFC north edition of buy or sell today. And let's start here. We had the new big news yesterday. Jalen Samuels knee scope out for a month. James Conner this week facing the Chargers. Buy or sell 75 total yards. On the week, I will buy 75 total yards for James Conner. That doesn't seem like a tall task to me. The only guy in the backfield. You include receiving yardage? What do you guys think?

[Mike Wright]

I think it's a. I think it's an easy line. It's an easy buy for me. You've got Hodges throwing the ball, which means you're going to need to run. You've got the Chargers, who are not great against the run, plus passing work. Now that Samuels is out, Connor could.

Get some like a 20 yard pass. Those numbers.

Yeah, I mean, whatever it's going to take. I think he gets over 75 yards. If you're combining both rushing and passing.

[Jason Moore]

You'Re confusing James Conner with Odell Beckham Jr. The end around running back, slash quarterback to pad his sweet stats.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so you're. Are you buying, Mike?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'm unanimous here.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Juju 75 receiving yards against the Chargers. He has 75 or more in four of five games. However, I will sell this one. I. I've been fooled once, Mike. You beat me on a water bet with 79 yards. But I'm going to sell this. With Hodges against the Chargers.

[Mike Wright]

It is a tough matchup with a third string quarterback. I love JuJu and I hope I'm wrong, but I am selling this for sure.

Yeah. Juju will need Devlin to make a deal. Oh, with. No, no, no.

[Jason Moore]

With the. With himself. Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, sorry. We're being boring. I'm going to sell.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Joe Mixon against Baltimore. Does he top 100 total yards for the second straight week? He had not done it in weeks one through four, although I think he.

[Mike Wright]

Had 96 combined yards three weeks ago, so it was very close.

[Jason Moore]

Gotcha. Yeah, I will buy it. Joe Mixon, 100 total yards. I think this might be the first one. We have some different answers on, but I'll buy. Joe Mixon against the Baltimore defense living more on its laurels than its actual talent right now. So the perceptually saying Joe mixing is Baltimore doesn't sound great, but I think. I think he's got over 100 total yards.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, this is. This is a really good line here. I kept going back and forth before the show trying to decide if I buy or sell. I am going to go the other way. I'm going to sell on this one. I think that the Bengals are going to do their best to make Baltimore look like the defense of yesteryear.

I will sell as well.

[Jason Moore]

All right, and then Odell Beckham Jr. Will he beat his combined receiving lines from week four and five? So weeks four and five combined receiving, four catches, 47 yards.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I will buy a healthy beating of this line.

[Jason Moore]

A healthy beating?

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Look, we're going to talk by a healthy beating, a healthy beating of this line. I'll go ahead and say over 50.

Yards, will he get more than four receptions?

I believe he will, Mike, for the.

Sanity of fantasy players everywhere, yes, I'm going to give the boost of confidence. I will buy it.

So now four receptions does not is not a buy. We've got to out right. You got to have 5 for 48 over that.

Yeah, you got to do it. You got to.

[Jason Moore]

Whatever Brooks says. Brooks, what's the line here? Do you got to beat the receptions and the yards or do you just have to beat the fantasy point? He's got to be both. So five catches and more than 47 yards.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I know Andy's wanting to sell it.

I'll buy it.

[Jason Moore]

I'll buy it. And then Mark Andrews, does he return to the top five at the tight end position? If you look at what Lamar Jackson has done, his yards per attempt has come down dramatically every single week. I understand he's taking what the defenses are giving him. He likes to run. But the last two last three weeks, Mark Andrews, tight end, 28, tight end, nine tight end, 13. After the hot start, he's been kind of banged up. Limited practice work. Does he return to the Top five this week against Cincinnati. Sure, I'll buy it. Cincinnati's not a good, not a good team. They're on five.

[Mike Wright]

That was a buy. That was you at the front of the grocery store and then the row of candy showed up and you're just.

[Jason Moore]

Like, yeah, just throw one on the fly.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

They taste good. I'll get one.

I guess I'll buy some candy.

Where you at, Mike?

I. I'm gonna sell. I'm gonna. I'm gonna sell. Top five is. Guess not that hard to get into for a tight end, especially right now with four teams on by. So the probability should actually be a buy. But I'm concerned about Lamar Jackson where we got a little bit of, a little bit of a mirage thing happen with those first three weeks with the full rejuvenation or I should say breakout of Lamar Jackson's passing attack.

Yeah, I'm going to buy this. I think the matchup is great. I love the fact that Evan Ingram and, and Darren Waller.

Yeah.

Are Darren Waller's for sure not playing this week because he's on by and Evan Ingram might not play. It makes me feel like it's like top seven.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe it'd be worthwhile to rename the Dolphins the Miami Mirage this year because if you play them, you're distorting everything about your team. I mean, the stat patterns. Yeah. Lamar. Lamar started his season against the Miami Dolphins. And not that he's not a great quarterback, but he's not that great. He's not going to do that every week because Miami has a special way with your statistics.

[Mike Wright]

Sometimes you have that friend, like you're feeling down about yourself and then your good buddy shows up like, oh, man, you are.

[Jason Moore]

What are you, the pick me up?

[Mike Wright]

You've been working out. I mean, you're like, what's going on here?

[Jason Moore]

You look great. I know. I haven't been working out. Oh, you look like it.

[Mike Wright]

I've done literally nothing different except I played the Miami Dolphins.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. All right. That's buy or sell from Pristine Auction. Pristineauction.com use the registration code Ballers. Let's talk news.

[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league presented by Sleeper.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Chris Herndon is not practicing on Wednesday. No, not, not because of a gaze from Adam. Gaze that put him on the side lane.

[Mike Wright]

But no, he pulled the B hole.

[Jason Moore]

He pulled his hamstring. Now you can't blame the B hole for the hamstring.

[Mike Wright]

No, you can. No, you cannot.

No.

[Jason Moore]

But are they connected?

[Mike Wright]

I would imagine that yesterday's News. They're close to one another at the top of the hamstring. Yeah. You know, I assume that.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yesterday's news from Adam Gaze. You know, when he's like, oh, he's going to have to earn it. He obviously knew last Friday was a hamstring. Just. Just go ahead and say, like, well, he's dealing with something. He's dealing with a hamstring issue. We'll see how he progresses.

Seriously, what is the problem with doing that? Instead of this, I'm going to evaluate, say, well, he was. He was trying to get ready on Friday.

[Jason Moore]

Have you ever thought, Mike, about making peace with the realities of your life? One of them being coaches, coach speak. That's what they're going to do. It doesn't matter that they have this hyper protectiveness. They get injected with a serum which is. I'm going to protect my team at all costs. And I believe spouting lies or equivocating on everything is the key to success in football. You ever going to make peace with that?

[Mike Wright]

No.

Yeah, I could have answered that for Mike. You were going to make peace with all these coaches punting it from, you know, the 45 yard line on 4th and inches? No, no, of course not. Because it's stupid.

[Jason Moore]

Because you believe that one of your purposes in being born is to stand up against this kind of buffoonery.

[Mike Wright]

Look, tyranny, lies, all of it.

The fight for justice from the show.

Yeah. Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

Someone's listening out there.

[Mike Wright]

Somebody.

[Jason Moore]

And some up and coming. Some up and coming. Coach. Our listeners, some of you will be professional coaches one day.

[Mike Wright]

That's a fact.

[Jason Moore]

Some of One of you will coach a team one day. Remember us? All right, Cam Newton been ruled out week six against the Bucks.

[Mike Wright]

Have you guys heard that? He's. His goal is to be back right after the bye week.

[Jason Moore]

Is that true?

[Mike Wright]

Like, that's what I had seen. That was the last report I had heard.

It was the week that made the most sense with the timeline and the schedule. So, yeah, that's still my expectation. Are you.

[Jason Moore]

The team is holding up for him. That's the nice thing on the win loss column.

[Mike Wright]

Are you going to your waiver wire then and stashing Cam Newton if you can, because their bye week is next week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'd be willing to do that.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I think stashing him for two. Look, when he comes back, and he might not be back after the bye week. That's the one worry here. If I knew for sure he was going to be back, it'd Be an absolute yes, go ahead and stash him.

But if you knew he was going to be back, then you'll have competition. Other people will be going to try and pick him up as well.

Yeah, if you've got the roster spot.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Kyle jus check sideline four to six weeks with the sprained mcl. I think we mentioned that yesterday, but I'm not. Look, he's great. He's a great fullback. He helps this offense move. After he went out, we still saw this offensive line do some work. I'm not that concerned about the production. I think, I think Kyle Shanahan will overcome.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I agree. I mean are they going to run for another 300 yards? No, probably not. But they weren't going to do that with Kyle use check anyways. I think that, yeah, Shanahan's going to scheme around it. He knows he's got no Kyle use check. He's going to, you know, use the personnel he has and make them good. And as far as the running game goes, it will be just fine.

[Jason Moore]

All right, a couple of quick other notes. James Washington is going to miss a few weeks. Normally I would care if I thought I could go, you know, oh, now I can guarantee start Deontay Johnson but you know, James Washington didn't have a big role in the offense and you're on a third string quarterback. Brian Flores starting quarterback situation is quote settled. Josh Rosen will start the remainder of the season. Mike, you have to be happy with this. This is no more equivocating. This is just hey, we are where we are. We're trusting the process. Josh Rosen is giving us the best chance to lose.

[Mike Wright]

He's the start of the rest of the season.

[Jason Moore]

I mean it's very likely Rosen will be the starting quarterback for the major for two separate teams that have the number one pick in back to back years.

[Mike Wright]

That is true.

That means if you are a team that is thinking about that 20, 21 1. If you have that go ahead and trade target trade for Rose and he can get you to the promise.

It's like the, what was it a Ryan Reynolds movie where everyone he dates, as soon as they, they break up with him, they find the person that.

[Jason Moore]

They find true love.

[Mike Wright]

They find the person they marry.

[Jason Moore]

Oh man.

[Mike Wright]

So everyone just date him. Well, this is Josh Rosen's life now.

[Jason Moore]

Josh Rosen is going to be dating another team next year.

[Mike Wright]

Franchise quarterback finder what's dropping $12 on Gerald Everett?

I did.

[Jason Moore]

Interesting. Yeah, Our waivers just went through. This is our weekly drop it like it's hot reminder, players are released into the. You know, every time the waivers go through, you forget players are being released into the free agent pool. Make sure you check your waiver wire. See what happened. Interesting. Yeah, Mike went after some Gerald Everett. I was curious what Jonathan Hilleman would be, how much someone would pay.

[Mike Wright]

I got a Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Got him for $6.

[Mike Wright]

Are you playing him this week?

I might have to.

[Jason Moore]

You want to know what dissuaded me from spinning up on him?

[Mike Wright]

The Thursday night football matchup against the Patriots. That's what's going to dissuade me.

[Jason Moore]

Sure. Yeah. And it was just kind of. Obviously there's still Saquon rumors. I don't think Saquon plays. But then there's Elijah Penny. That got some work last week, too. And I'm like, man, if I'm looking at Jonathan Hilleman splitting with Elijah Penny against the Patriots, I did bid on him, but I bid like $2 a fab.

[Mike Wright]

So to me, it was one of those, like, my opponent really needed a flex option. This was as much keep away as it was for me until Andy traded Emmanuel Sanders to my opponent. Thank you. Forgot to update this bid.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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Why aren't players.

But having Pepsi, why aren't they hiding.

Pepsi, like in the, you know, remember the, you know, you hide the cell phone up under the goalpost.

Well, Jason, because that draws a penalty these days.

Yeah, but Pepsi, you know, that's what their answer would be. They'd be like, this is the officials. But Pepsi, yeah, they'd say, this is sponsor of the NFL. And then the ref would take the flag and he put in his pocket, he'd say, that's how you celebrate and.

Say, hand me a Pepsi.

It would say penalty on the other team. 15 yard, you got 15 yards for cracking open a Pepsi. That's what you just did. Eckler, every time you score, crack open a Pepsi, get 15 yards for your team. That's what I do. That's what we do. That's what you should do. Pepsi, it's the official sponsor of the NFL, always reminds you to be celebrating.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's talk trades.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so we're going to discuss some of our favorite trade targets right now. In fantasy football. Some of the players that we are actively trading away, I'm sure this discussion will venture into the territory of selling high, buying low. Certain players, do you let them go when they're at their lowest possible value? Do you trade for them when they're at their highest? And then we, we ping the foot clown. We said, hey, what are some of the questions that you have regarding your trade targets or what do you do with certain players and whether you should trade them or not? So let's go ahead and talk through some of our favorite trade targets right now. Jason, why don't you kick us off?

[Mike Wright]

Sure. So my favorite trade targets, I've Got a handful, but the ones that I want to bring up to start first is Lev Bell. Le'Veon Bell, I think, is an absolutely perfect trade target. He's been pretty disappointing recently. You have players who have drafted him that have not gotten a lot out of the backup quarterback. The bad matchups that, you know, that they've been through with the Philadelphia Eagles, the New England Patriots, those are. Those are rough. However, he has passed us by. They're about to get their quarterback. He is the centerpiece of this offense. Their schedule opens up very nicely, you know, so as the season goes along, he's going to be one of the. I mean, who's getting more volume than Love Bell? You got Christian McCaffrey, Saquon. If he's out there, that's maybe the end of the list.

[Jason Moore]

He's near the top. I mean, I was looking that up to check on it. Rushing attempts per game. He's number nine right now. Basically the same. He's basically tied with Chubb, Carson, Kerryon Cook and him. I'm on board with you big time. I looked at making a trade for Lev Bell this morning. Their situation has been as. I mean, he's near the bottom of the league in yards per carry right now because all they can do is hand him the ball and hope something happens. You don't have a quarterback that can function. You've been working with a third stringer. Getting Darnold back, being through the buy, knowing what they paid for him. Nowhere to go but up right now. And he's not destroying your team, even with the production he's giving you right now because he's, you know, he's doing what, putting up David Montgomery lines. I mean, he's not destroying your team.

[Mike Wright]

So.

[Jason Moore]

I love that pick.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And the thing is, is, you know, he. He has not been great. And that means you're not paying, you know, go. You know who you should trade for right now? Christian McCaffrey. He's so good, but you can't. You can't get McCaffrey. So it's like you've got to find those players that, you know, you don't necessarily want to trade for the guys that have just been completely washed. Just how, you know O.J. howard, he's definitely a buy low.

You can trade for him off the waiver wire.

Right. But you don't want to buy him. You're looking for players.

I could.

Okay.

I got him in my money league.

Yeah. I don't. I mean, you have to.

O.J. howard for me is. If it happens. If the breakout happens, I'm very happy for him. I'm very happy for the man. But I'm not. I'm not sitting around waiting for it to happen anymore.

You're rooting for your ex to. I hope she marries a great guy someday, but it's not going to be me. Yep, I hear you.

[Jason Moore]

Do you see O.J. howard last night?

[Mike Wright]

Holy yes. That was unbelievable.

[Jason Moore]

You see that Bruce Arians little one handed, left handed? Yeah. One handed catch at the Tampa Bay game.

[Mike Wright]

Bear? Yeah. Not the Tampa Bay Buccaneers game, correct?

[Jason Moore]

Unfortunately, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

The Tampa Bay Rays game where he was in the stands and caught.

[Jason Moore]

Does that mean he's at the same amount of catches at the baseball game as he does the football game?

[Mike Wright]

That is exactly what it means. But as one of our writers pointed out, far more air yards on that baseball.

Oh yeah, a lot.

[Jason Moore]

All right, I'm going to tell you something right now. I'm targeting Cooper Cup.

[Mike Wright]

You better, you better be ready to open up the wallet then go to the atm, have it empty out again into your wallet.

That would be the Christian McCaffrey attempt, right?

[Jason Moore]

No, it's not. Because Christian McCaffrey has a long track record of being a top five player. Cooper cup does not have that perception in fantasy leagues, especially a lot of normal leagues, Super Cup, Cooper cup certainly playing at his ceiling. But it takes time for a player to play at their ceiling and finish seasons and not be, you know, he had the injury last year so he didn't kind of perceptually come into the year as the number one on this team. I don't see anything changing with Cooper Cup. But when you can come and offer players for Cooper cup, like I don't know, Odell Beckham Jr. A big name with five plus years of performance and you can make offers. All I'm trying to do here is tell you that if you go trade for Cooper Cup, I think you're trading for somebody that will continue to perform at a top five level. I don't see any reason why Cooper cup is not a top five finisher on the year. I see an outcome where Odell Beckham Jr isn't.

[Mike Wright]

In the last two years when Cooper cup has played the whole game, he averages a fantasy points that makes him the wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

One you're telling me you can't like.

[Mike Wright]

Over that time span no one else has been better.

[Jason Moore]

You tell me you can't go out there and offer Michael Thomas and get Cooper cup and maybe something back because of name value.

[Mike Wright]

But I think you could offer.

[Jason Moore]

That's the kind of situation I'm talking about. There are even Julio Jones or DeAndre Hopkins. If you can go get Cooper cup and something potentially then I would try to angle that name recognition. Julio Jones is a monstrous name. Cooper cup is not. And there's a lot of leagues where people, yeah, they want the big name. I'm telling you, Cooper cup is a big name but you don't know it yet. In some leagues I can buy more into that.

[Mike Wright]

Like perhaps you can flip Michael Thomas for Cup plus Perhaps. But I bet you right now in the vast majority of leagues you go to the coop, you have Odo Beckham, you say I'll trade you back up for Cooper cup, they're going to turn it down instantly because I don't disagree those but the people who have Cooper cup, they're winning and so they're not going to trade that away. So while he doesn't have the big name, what he does have built up now is fantasy victories for these teams.

[Jason Moore]

The other thing that you can do is take a big name that isn't performing. Even if it's Beckham or juju. You tell go send Juju plus something to go get Cooper Cup.

[Mike Wright]

I would be shocked.

Yeah. But I would be willing to send Odell Beckham plus something to get Cooper Cup.

Yeah, I would be willing to do that.

If you look at the first five games from last year for Cooper cup. Right. He was unbelievably good and the whole reason he wasn't super highly drafted this year was the acl. You didn't think he was going to get back to the level he was at last year this quickly? He has. Clearly it's fine. But his, his pace from last year was 131 receptions, 1600 yards and 13 touchdowns. That's the wide receiver one.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Mike, who's a by low candidate for you right now or a couple of them?

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to go with a combo here because I really want to highlight what's about to happen with the Buffalo Bills. First off, they are a good team. Their defense is strong, their offense is getting it done. They are on the bye week. So it may be easier to get these players but John Brown and I'm even going to throw in Devin Singletary here because it might be a lot easier to get Devin Singletary. He's had the hamstring injury the past couple weeks. It's looked like he might play but he hasn't been able to heal up enough to be there. But I expect after the bye week that Devin Singletary is going to give it a go. And here's what's happening for Buffalo after this week. At home against Miami, at home against Philadelphia, at home against Washington and then on the road against Cleveland and Miami. Those are three unbelievable home matchups. And then you get to tack on two great road road games as well. Like the Buffalo Bills are primed. If Josh Allen is on your waiver wire. I am picking them up to Stash, assuming that I'm not living like a great quarterback situation. But John Brown has been. John Brown has been good. He hasn't been. He hasn't been elite or great. He's only scored one time. But his target volume, his receptions, his yardage total and his air yard say that John Brown will be scoring very, very soon. Just, just hold tight. Like Zach Ertz. The volume was there. You know that the touchdowns are coming. The touchdowns will be coming for John Brown. And if the team uses Devon Singletary kind of the way that he was ramping up to become before the, the hamstring injury, then you are stealing a running back to for the second half of the season.

Yeah. I will say this. I've stashed Josh Allen everywhere I can. It's tough to trade for players on their buy sometimes, especially while you might have players on the. It just might be.

I get it. But it's also makes it easier. Let's say it's a leverage point against that owner.

Sure. So if your roster allows for, you know, the extra spot and your, your opponent that has John Brown needs someone, you might be able to steal them. Steal him a little cheaper. I could buy into that. And Devin Singletary, this is the time, you know, he's still available in like 35% of leagues. People dropping him because of the buy. Watch the drop it like it's hot for his name. He's. He's a definite pickup at Stash right now. We were talking about how bad waivers.

Right.

Were. Singletary is a guy to pick up. The next name I'm going to throw out there is Josh Gordon.

I am with this one.

I don't believe Andy is from the facial reaction that he made when I told him yesterday I was targeting Josh Gordon. But I look, I think he is the clear alpha wide receiver as far as just he is, you know, he is a really good wide receiver for Tom Brady. As the season goes on, they're not going to just have nothing but cakewalk matchups where they don't necessarily need him. And if you look at it the.

League is looking into that, Jason.

Yeah, they're trying to, they're changing the.

Back end of the schedule.

Yeah. Because we got to, got to make things easy for the Patriots. But even still, over the last three games, 11 targets, seven targets, eight targets. He is involved in a great offense, but you know what hasn't come? The touchdowns. I don't think Josh Gordon's going to finish the year with one touchdown for this team. So that means he is a by low a guy that I think you can play, start, have big weeks from too. He's, he's not that guy that's going to go out there and it's like, okay, he's okay. He's, he has the talent to go out there and have, you know, 150 yards and a touchdown, you know, in a couple big plays. So he's a guy that isn't going to cost you much at all to get.

[Jason Moore]

I think there's some positive regression coming for Gordon in the touchdown category. I mean, like you said, he's not going to have one on the course of the year. But last year we saw some inconsistency. The team goes a different direction at times. If they can lean on the running game, they will. Last year we saw a couple of hundred yard games. I think you will get a couple games out of him. But he seems a player with a little bit wider range of outcomes than somebody you would consider a normal alpha on the, on the team. There are games where he'll have 3 for 32 or you know, 4 for 41 and if he doesn't score then you're disappointed. That's what I'm more afraid of. But the matchup should get more difficult so Brady should have to throw the ball a little bit more. It's, it's, I don't mind it because of the target volume. If the target volume was lower. Weeks one and two, you saw four and five, one of those with Antonio Brown, but it has gone up. He hasn't done a lot with it. So I don't mind it. I think you can probably get him cheap and that's kind of part of the key to this. I'm going to throw Kyler Murray out there. I'd be targeting Kyler Murray right now. He's the quarterback. 11 on the season. He has four touchdowns in five games, passing touchdowns, he has zero in the last two weeks. Yet he scored on the ground in both of those weeks. The running volume is going up. The success on offense is going up because he's running the ball more. So they're going to stick with that plan. He's going to feel more and more comfortable in this offense. And we talked about the Cardinals are scoring in 30% of red zone drives or opportunities in the red zone. That's not going to persist. They're going to be able to get back towards at least the league average at that point. The passing touchdowns are going to come and if Kyler Murray throws one and runs one and then you get the yardage on the ground, he's going to be a consistent top fantasy performance. And those days are coming for Kyler Murray.

[Mike Wright]

Kyler Murray in four point leagues is the quarterback seven. He's been a quarterback the last two weeks with zero passing touchdowns. He's been a quarterback one both of those weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I just think he's a great buy low opportunity right now as this team figures it out and he is a rookie. He's getting more and more comfortable in each and every week. He doesn't have Christian Kirk back yet who's a big part of the passing offense. Kirk should be back maybe this week, if not then in a couple of weeks. So I think Kyler Murray is a by low opportunity where you're going to lean on the fact that the rushing yardage is there and he can have blow up games when something goes right.

[Mike Wright]

In weeks three and four he had a average depth of target, excuse me, of only 5 yards. It jumped back up this past week to 10.2. So it I agree with you and you think that he's becoming more and more comfortable in, in the offense in the NFL and the fact that his baseline is so safe like Lamar Jackson. Even, even I was kind of poo pooing Lamar Jackson's passing attack. He's still a solid quarterback one just because of the rushing, how the, how fantasy football works. So I'm with that and I'll just combo that with the growth of Kyla Murray. I think Larry Fitzgerald is a good trade target right now. Larry came out of the gates really, really hot and has net has since disappointed that if you drafted Larry, you've been disappointed the past couple of weeks. I think that's the type of pendulum swing that you can go in and get him for, you know, pretty cheap. Maybe even a bench player and say, you know Larry, it's kind of falling off. Let me take them off your hands and then you stash and wait for the return.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Now players were looking to actively shop. Now bear in mind you have to be smart when you're trading players you have to remember some tendencies about your league mates. You have to remember who they like or who they had a crush on in preseason. This is part of the, you know, we're not in your league. You're in your league. You have the context of the opponents in your league and what, you know, the Charger fan, right. In your league that just wants more Chargers. That's going to be part of the strategy here when you unload players and you need to capitalize on narrative and things like that. I think you should. I don't know what you can get for him, but I would not be expecting David Montgomery to break out anytime soon. David Montgomery. It hasn't happened.

[Mike Wright]

And he's back to my old David McGgomery.

Oh, no, no.

[Jason Moore]

There's. There's problems. Problem number one, snap count. 50, 50 with Tariq Cohen pretty much last week. Problem number two, not being used in the passing game. One reception last week. Here's his receptions for five games. One, three, three, one, one. You need that. You need him to be. This was not. This is not the Kareem Hunt Hunt implementation in Chicago. Here's his matchups coming up. First, he's on by this week. Then you've got the Saints, Chargers, Philadelphia, in Philadelphia, Detroit. I'm not excited about that opportunity. Then the Rams. What's the game script going to be in those situations? Is Tariq calling going to be on the field significantly? How about as a runner? Have we seen signs of life? Not really, no. You know, he's not, he's not broken any big plays. 11 for 25 against Oakland, 21 for 53 against Minnesota.

[Mike Wright]

I like that volume.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, 21 against Minnesota was great because they, they had the game script in their favor. I just think that we're not really going to see much from him. He saved his week last week by getting into the end zone. And we haven't seen the runner that we saw in the preseason, and we can't keep believing the narrative that it's going to happen at any moment. So I think he's. I would try to sell him on. On somebody that's hyped about him or the Bears or David Montgomery coming into the season, because right now I don't. I just don't think it's going to happen.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, And I'm going to sell the guy that the Bears sold so that they could get David Montgomery, and that is Jordan Howard.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you're going to sell him? I'm actively buying him.

[Mike Wright]

This is a perfect conversation then.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Because Jordan Howard can be sold. He is a quality running back right now. Who's the goal line back, who's got touchdowns and back to back games has looked awesome. People will be buying Jordan Howard like Andy.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

But here's the thing.

[Jason Moore]

Last two games, back to back to back games. Jason, you forgot it to back.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, I forgot it to back. But tobacco, you know, back to back to back. The packers and the Jets, a big part of the back to back to back the schedule coming up for Jordan Howard is not good. Cowboys, Bills, Bears, Patriots for the next month. I'm not loving that matchup. I don't think Jordan Howard is just going to all of a sudden take over and keep getting better as the season goes on. If anything, you know, rookies tend to get better as time goes on. They learn the offense. Miles Sanders could get more involved. Jordan Howard isn't a must ship, but he's a guy that if I can capitalize on him being really good over the last few weeks, I'm willing to do that. I'm willing to try to flip someone like Jordan Howard because I don't believe that Jordan Howard stays where he's been the last three weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And I would be buying him from you. You can come find me. I think Jordan Howard, Doug Peterson, the comments he's made about him. He said he's his lead back. This is an offense that's going to improve with DeSean Jackson coming back, more goal line opportunities. Howard has been one of the most effective goal line backs in football for years now and he's on a great football team. So I think if I know I'm getting 13 to 15 carries from Jordan Howard on a team that I believe in and he's around the goal line. I'm trying to buy him because people think, oh, wow, he stumbled into these touchdowns and regressions coming and maybe it does against some of those opponents. But I'm actually buying Mike. I'd love to hear you weigh in. I think I can get him cheap. That's why I'm going after him.

[Mike Wright]

I think you can get him cheap. And if you in fact can, then I'm somewhat interested. But that schedule, that's, that's a gauntlet for not just Jordan Howard, but Philadelphia in general. So I'm concerned.

[Jason Moore]

We had a Foot Clan person, Curtis Stewart, on Facebook. He says what, you know, would he give up Josh Gordon to get Jordan Howard straight up? He's an Eagles fan, so I want him these. By the way, that's kind of what you need to pay attention to in Your league sometimes that, that, that's a team dependent trade to me. I mean, if you have enough wide receivers to give up Josh Gordon, I think that's fine. I don't think Jordan Howard is a guarantee of production, but I'm looking at him saying, hey, if he continues to emerge, he's run well, I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, whenever it's a wide receiver for a running back, it's always team dependent. We can't advise anybody trade away a running back. Like, I, I'm buying Josh Gordon and I'm selling Jordan Howard. So this is perfect for me. But we can't just tell everybody out there, yeah, do that deal. Because if that leaves you with a hole at running back, that's never going to be good. I would rather take Jordan Howard and some other good piece to try to flip into Love Bell or something like.

That and to piggyback on that, make sure your running back situation is stout. Like, I have been answering a lot of trade questions recently where, okay, I'm going to trade this running back away for this wide receiver because I'm solid here. And then you're left with two pretty good running backs and a third guy you can sort of start like that's, you're not good, then you're not good at running back. And because you have, you have the bye weeks coming up and you have one injury to the position that gets hurt the most and you're hosed, man. So don't, don't view two decent starters and one backup option as being stout at running back. Know that you are taking a chance by, by living that life.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And like you said on yesterday's show, you're entering the time of year when wear and tear the schedule, the Thursday night games running into, you know, right after a Sunday game, there's more risk for injury. There's more opportunities for players that you've been counting on to miss a game here or a game there. Depth has always gotten you by well in a lot of our leagues. Mike, you, you want to sell Mark Ingram?

[Mike Wright]

I do. And this is, he's not an absolute must sell. But similar to you were talking about Cooper cupping, Mark Ingram has name value in the fantasy football world. And the dude has six rushing touchdowns through five weeks. That, I mean, that's, that's not going to keep up. And so I'm just, I'm, I'm interested in seeing what I can get in a return for Mark Ingram. Like, can I go out?

[Jason Moore]

That's the question for me is what are you Looking for if you're going to sell him high, I'm looking. Who do you put in the tier above him? Because I agree his schedule has been conducive to what he's done too. In the touchdown regression.

[Mike Wright]

It's not, it's not that I'm looking to upgrade my running back. It's look is that I'm hoping to move laterally at the running back position.

[Jason Moore]

Or what I pursue and get another.

[Mike Wright]

Piece and then upgrade my wide receiver. That's a move that I'm willing to make. I'm not just holding on to Mark Ingram going man the Ravens run team, six touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

So let me give you a hypothetical then. Is it a lateral move to you to move Mark Ingram and get David Johnson?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that would be a. I mean, depending on your league. I would say that's an upgrade.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Like if you're in a ppr, Heck yes, I would do that.

[Jason Moore]

What about Chris Carson?

[Mike Wright]

That's the name I was going to bring up. I was just looking at him where he's 16th and half point PPR. You can sell the fact that that Mark Ingram in half point is the running back 6. Go get Chris Carson. Upgrade your run at your wide receiver situation.

[Jason Moore]

You agree with that, Jay?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I do agree with that.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe wait, wait until Cincinnati.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, maybe he's over. If you, if you look at the, you know that first monster game that he had against Miami, we talk about, you know, those skew the numbers, take that game out. He's still on pace for 16 touchdowns the rest of the season. So he is their goal line back and I think they'll have opportunities. That's why you're saying he's not a must sell. He's going to be good, but he's only on pace for about 1,000 yards, which is, you know, for. If you're going to be like one of the top running backs, you're usually much higher than just hitting the quad.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's go ahead and let's do this.

[Andy Holloway]

It's time for rapid round.

[Jason Moore]

All right, I'm gonna go through questions from the Foot Clan. Bobby woods for the Walrus.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. No, I would take Bobby Woods.

I would take Bobby woods as well.

[Jason Moore]

Robert woods for Mike Evans in a PPR league.

[Mike Wright]

Give me Evans.

Yeah.

A zero will do that to you.

It does. But yes, I would trade Robert woods for Mike Evans. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Ooh, from Instagram. Robert woods for DJ Chark. Do do do do do do.

[Mike Wright]

I'll take Chark.

I'll take Woods.

I will say I will take chart look for to do this trade. If I'm moving Robert. Robert woods to get Shark, I'm doing the.

I'm.

I'm hopefully cashing in on the name and I get something else.

[Jason Moore]

Well, so straight up, you wouldn't. I would be on the wood side on this one.

[Mike Wright]

Straight up.

[Jason Moore]

Brandon Cooks might miss a week. Woods is still involved.

[Mike Wright]

Straight up. It would be very difficult to sell the name value and the offense of the Rams. But DJ Chark is legit.

DJ Chark has 700 touchdowns through the first few weeks. And while I believe he is legit, that's just. That's just not going to keep happening.

[Jason Moore]

Got the variable of a quarterback change coming.

[Mike Wright]

Robert woods doesn't have a touchdown.

Well, to the quarterback change. Nick Foles is targeting week 11.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, so that's.

[Mike Wright]

In fantasy terms, that's forever. That's five years from now.

[Jason Moore]

All right, wrap it around. Aaron Jones. Would you trade Aaron Jones for Keenan Allen? Aaron Jones is the player that actually has 700 touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I would trade him for team.

Dependent but in a vacuum. Yes, I'd rather have Keenan.

[Jason Moore]

Aaron Jones for Cooper Cup.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, 100%.

[Jason Moore]

So you'd rather have Keenan and Cooper despite running backs being. You just talked about running backs being so important.

[Mike Wright]

But that's a huge upgrade to me and Aaron Jones. This is the ultimate.

[Jason Moore]

Would you sell high on him right now?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Like you both would.

[Mike Wright]

That situation was perfect. Aaron Jones is not getting four rushing touchdowns in a game again this year.

Here's one thing I know about every league. Every league has a hardcore Packer fan. I've never ever been in a league that doesn't have a hardcore Packer fan. You'll buy the heck out of Aaron.

And do we have an update? We do. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Jamal Williams is still not cleared the concussion protocol heading into this week.

[Mike Wright]

But it's. It's concussion protocol, which means he should clear it. Jamal Williams will be back. Maybe it's not this week, maybe it's next week. But lafleur has proven he wants them to split touches so that this was an absolute perfect situation for Aaron Jones against the Cowboys.

[Jason Moore]

Odell Beckham Jr. Wrap it around. Derek Henry for Odell Beckham Jr. Give me Henry.

[Mike Wright]

Gross. I'll take Henry.

[Jason Moore]

We should talk about Beckham. Trey Devonte, Adams for Josh Gordon and Odell Beckham Jr.

[Mike Wright]

I'll take Adams.

[Jason Moore]

I'll take Beckham and Gordon.

[Mike Wright]

I will take Beckham and Gordon.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Beckham right now is obviously underwhelming to the maximum. We talked yesterday about, you know, target share and air yards and average depth of target. They're all matched. Amari Cooper, but he's. He's had a problem. I mean, he's not helped your team four out of five weeks. Are you buying low on Odell Beckham?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

But I'm not trading away Devonte Adams, who should be back, if not this week, next week, and Devontae. I'd rather have the powerhouse in one slot than kind of spread it across two.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Chris wants to know. Matt Burrida for Mark Andrews. He has Tevin Coleman on his bench.

[Mike Wright]

Well, that's it.

[Jason Moore]

Would you rather have the combo or would you rather pick up Andrews?

[Mike Wright]

If my tight end situation is bleak, I guess I'm open to getting Andrews.

I'm going to stick with Breeda.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Cooper. Copy for David Johnson or Leonard Fournette?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, prefer Fournette, but I would.

[Jason Moore]

You would do that?

[Mike Wright]

I'd be willing to do it. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Chris Carson for Lev Bell and DK Metcalf.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, for both.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, Metcalf is arguably waiver fodder.

[Mike Wright]

Depending on your week, throw Metcalf out.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Would you do Chris Carson for Love?

[Mike Wright]

Chris Carson or Love Bell? Which one do you want?

[Jason Moore]

I'd rather have Love Bell.

[Mike Wright]

I think it's really, really close.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So give me the guy whose passes by week, I'm picking up an extra week.

Oh, man. So what are you projecting for this jets offense? I know it's been the.

I think they're going to be middle of the pack.

[Jason Moore]

A stat came out yesterday.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think they're going to be that far below the Seahawks. I don't see the Seahawks as a top five offense.

But aren't they right now?

I'm saying on the season. You're saying projecting for how things go.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Chris Carson, part of that. Believe it's just workload. You're believing that Love Bell is going to have more weekly carries than Carson, which is not a foregone conclusion. But Carson has some risk with Rashad Penny and with the fumbling. There's a stat that came out yesterday. Christian McCaffrey averages more yards per drive than the jets do. Yep, the jets average. That's how bad it's been. And Love Bell's still been passable.

[Mike Wright]

I believe that was J.J. zachary.

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Jordan Howard for Curtis Samuel.

[Mike Wright]

I would rather have Jordan Howard.

I.

[Jason Moore]

As would I.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. So I am selling Jordan Howard, but I think right now, off the last few weeks, you can get more than Curtis Samuel. I would not he's not, you know, he's not. Get rid of.

[Jason Moore]

He's trying to capitalize on Ty Hilton for Todd Gurley.

[Mike Wright]

Ooh, yes. I would rather.

I'll take Gurley there.

[Jason Moore]

Chris Godwin for Travis Kelsey. What do you make of Kelsey start? Let's, let's, let's go there.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

What do you make of his start to the season? He has not exactly taken advantage of, you know, the absence of Tyree Kill. He's had some drops. He's had some strange plays.

[Mike Wright]

He's. He has. For what you got him to be, he is really disappointed. He has let you down. He sucked. He's the tight end three. You know what I mean? Like, this is. This is him disappointing. So do I think he's going to continue to disappoint as the season goes along? No.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I think I would probably stick with Godwin.

[Mike Wright]

He has 439 receiving yards to Evan Ingram, who's second.373. Travis Kelsey has one touchdown. That's literally everything for Travis. Kelsey's disappointment is in the touchdown category.

[Jason Moore]

All right, last one. Sony Michelle or Cortland Sutton? Sonny Michelle. I saw, I saw this posted this morning. Mike Taglier, I believe, brought this up. Sonny Michelle faced an insane 62.5% eight men in the box this past week when he produced eight, 16 carries for 91 yards and a touchdown. That, that was interesting that he went up against a pretty stout defense and had a good game. Sony Michelle or Cortland Sutton? I will. I will side with the running back.

[Mike Wright]

This is to me a perfect example of if there are two teams in the league and they need the opposite position, I would be willing to make this trade on both sides. I like Sutton, I like Sony. So if you need a running back, you got wide receiver depth or vice versa. Do this trade in general, you side with the running back.

[Jason Moore]

Are you starting Sutton every week?

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I think he's. Yeah. I mean, it depends on your options, but I think he's a startable player every week.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Thursday night breakdown.

[Jason Moore]

All right, The Giants at two and three take on the Patriots at five and oh, the Patriots are 16 and a half point favorites in this one. Big surprise there. 42 and a half point over under. But with a line like that, the Patriots implied point total is almost 30. The Giants at 13. Daniel Jones, I'm so sorry that this is going to be a part of your story in life.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, this is. This is your time. Daniel Jones, you want to prove literally everyone in the world wrong because even the People that drafted you right now are going, oh, crap.

Yeah. This is not.

We should not have started him yet.

Let me ask you this. If Saquon and Evan Ingram are out of the game, who is the New York Giants best player?

Best player?

Best.

[Jason Moore]

Golden Tate.

[Mike Wright]

Golden Tate. You're talking offensive skill player, right? Oh, it's Colton Tate. Colton Tate's a great wide receiver over Daniel Jones. Yeah.

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

However, temper your expectations for Golden Tate and all of his friends in this one. You know, John quote, just happy to be here. Hilleman, who put that in? That was Kyle.

[Mike Wright]

That's mean.

I like it.

Of course you do.

[Jason Moore]

I didn't spend up on him. I don't know if I want to play him or not. You could probably do worse than the snaps that he'll get. But he was so. My problem is he was so unproductive last week in his snaps that what is the team believe is their best chance to run the ball? And if Elijah Penny gets more work than we think it's possible. It's just kind of a depressing offensive situation for the Giants.

[Mike Wright]

A successful game for New York is no one on their team gets hurt.

[Jason Moore]

Well, so don't play. They should not be playing Barkley or.

[Mike Wright]

Evan Ingram, who is practicing in a limited fashion. It's still possible. Evan Ingram plays. They shouldn't do it.

[Jason Moore]

Your deep three, your deep league dart throw of Darius Slayton exists on the outside. Golden Tate will be on the inside. Had 67% of snaps last week, did nothing with them. Daniel Jones, from what we've seen so far, he is willing to take a chance, throw the ball downfield. So I tend to think that, you know, your outside wide receiver is going to have your opportunity at a. At production, your garbage time production that can exist.

[Mike Wright]

I wasn't sure where you were going with that because when you said he is willing to take a chance, take a risk. They're outside. My first thought is, so this is great news for the Patriots D. It.

[Jason Moore]

Is great news for the Patriots D.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, obviously anyone who has the Patriots D, which you got to give the first quarter of the year MVP award to the Patriots D. They've. I mean, if you've got them, you're not losing a lot of games here. They're going to have another awesome matchup.

[Jason Moore]

Tom Brady, you're starting them. Sony Michelle, James White. They're in your lineup.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Julian Edelman, Josh Gordon, in your lineup. Philip Dorsett, injury update. He didn't practice. He's not going to play this week.

[Mike Wright]

I don't expect him to play Matt.

[Jason Moore]

Lacoste at tight end. He ran 94% of snaps last week or he was out there for 94% of snaps. He actually ran 42 passing rounds. But it was Ryan Izzo that caught the touchdown. Matt Lacoste is the better bet for production.

[Mike Wright]

It's, it's interesting.

[Jason Moore]

And they let go of Ben Watson. So we're bringing it up because maybe there's future plans here for Lacoste that we just haven't seen materialize yet. No door set in this game.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I wanted to bring.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe no Burkhead wanted to bring up.

[Mike Wright]

The fact that they, they let Ben Watson go and now maybe they're going to try and work Matt Lacoste into the game plan a little bit more. I don't advise it. In our NFL League 1, we picked up Chris Herndon to play while Darren I am the Walrus is on his bye week. We may be playing Matt lacosse. So if you want to go down that slide of doom with us, have fun.

[Jason Moore]

It's going to be terrible.

[Mike Wright]

Hands.

[Jason Moore]

The Giants are allowing the fifth most passing yards per game at 279 a game. Patriots defense, as you mentioned, they're giving up just 160 passing yards per game. They have yet to allow a passing touchdown. Let's be real here. When you're playing Darius Slayton or Golden Tate, you're singing songs. If you get four for 60.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

If you're the Giants, how do you not put Eli back in for this game?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I mean, he has proven the ability to beat the Patriots when they least expect it.

[Mike Wright]

When they're up against it against the Patriots, Eli Manning comes through with one to two sensational plays. That wins the game.

[Jason Moore]

How do you not think Classical Burris available for this one or good old.

[Mike Wright]

Moon hands and Tyree David Tyree bag in here?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, they're on pace for 77 sacks this year, which would be an NFL record. That famous 84 Bears defense had 72 Patriots. Now, if the Pagers defense get to play Washington and New York and these teams every week, it's going to look pretty nice. But are there any other big question marks out of this game? I mean, this is not a hard one to break down.

[Mike Wright]

This is the easiest game imaginable.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, it's so for us and.

[Mike Wright]

The Patriots, for, for everyone out there. I mean, you don't want to start a Giant. I don't want to start Golden Tate. I don't want to start Hilleman I do think Hilleman ends up with five receptions.

[Jason Moore]

I've got one for you. If Burkhead is active, he's been limited. He's limited in practice, so there's a chance he's active. Do you take the shot on Burkett, or do you just move on and not worry about the drama with the injury?

[Mike Wright]

No, I'm not playing him this week.

I wouldn't either. He's been, you know, out and injured and this isn't a matchup they need him for. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

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