Championship Studs & Duds + Magic Mike, One More Game! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/29

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Fantasy Footballers – "Championship Studs & Duds + Magic Mike, One More Game!"

Date: December 29, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
Theme: A deep dive into championship fantasy football week – celebrating the big winners, commiserating with the unlucky, and breaking down the year’s most studly and dudly performances.

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Episode Overview

This energetic episode celebrates the highs and lows of fantasy championship week, spotlighting "Magic Mike" Wright's double-crown victory, dissecting the wild outcomes of Week 17, and honoring both fantasy football juggernauts and season-sinking disappointments. The trio balances sharp analysis with trademark humor, providing insights into player performances, running gags about their own league, and advice for both champions and those left questioning their roster decisions.

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Main Highlights and Key Discussion Points

1. The "Year of Mike" – Double Champ Victory

• [02:42] Mike is congratulated for his "super duper champ" season, having dominated both primary leagues. The hosts rib him for his earlier humility, only to see him launch into the show with confidence.
  • Jason: "You did the unthinkable. You got the double up—our two primary, super duper... champ."
  • Mike: "They said it couldn't be done."
• [03:59] Jeremy gives the finger to fate: “If you went up against Derrick Henry and you lost, I’m sorry...that was one of the biggest fantasy performances in a long time.”

2. Derrick Henry’s Historic Championship Performance

• [04:41] Jason and Jeremy marvel at Derrick Henry’s monster week, declaring it possibly “the biggest performance in modern day history in a championship week.”

• [14:24] The crew highlights that Henry alone outscored eight major fantasy WR/RBs combined (including Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb, Amon-Ra St. Brown—see detailed breakdown below).

  • [14:31] Mike: “Derrick Henry 45.6 points. If you add up Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb, Amon-Ra St. Brown...Jacobs, Jameson, and Gibbs—they equal 45.6 for those eight dudes.”

3. Christian McCaffrey’s RB1 Finish – Again

• [06:22] Mike celebrates CMC’s consistency: “Since 2019: RB1, injured, injured, RB2, RB1, champ. RB72 injured, RB1.”
• [07:14] Jeremy argues if not for injuries, McCaffrey would have exceeded even LaDainian Tomlinson’s legendary dominance.

4. Championship Stress, Sacrifices, and Real Life Mixing In

• [09:45 & 10:13] Mike discusses the real toll: “I spent two hours in high stress according to my Whoop... all I did was sit and watch for eight hours.”
• [10:18] Jeremy asks if it was worth the years off his life:
  • Mike: “Every man dies. Not every man is a super duper champ.”

Anecdote:

• [11:42] Mike describes his bittersweet family holiday, torn between championship joy and an impromptu group grieving session:
  • “This is like the crowning achievement of my fantasy football career.”

5. Monday Punday, Listener League, and Community Shoutouts

• [13:44] The hosts revel in listener submissions for funny team names, both "studs" and "duds", e.g. “Saquon Barfley,” “Josh Fakeobs,” “CD Sham.”
• [15:14] Jason congratulates Matt in the Listener League for surviving a “Reaper Gauntlet”—knocking off each host for the title.

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Detailed Segment Recaps with Timestamps

A. Championship Heroics and Stud Performers

Quarterbacks

• [25:06] Drake Maye, Brock Purdy, Malik Willis, and Jackson Dart are spotlighted for their stellar championship outputs.
  • [25:19] Jason: “Purdy was Number One… that was Brock Purdy making plays, not just Kyle Shanahan’s scheme.”

Running Backs

• [29:36]–[31:40]
  • Derrick Henry: Historic, game-winning performance.
  • Christian McCaffrey: Mr. Consistency; punctuates his RB1 legacy.
  • Zach Charbonnet, Ramondre Stevenson, Travion Henderson, and Chase Brown all cited as key difference-makers.
  • [31:16] Jeremy: “Chase Brown... strong argument for fantasy MVP in terms of the playoff stretch.”

Wide Receivers

• [36:43]
  • Luther Burden’s breakout (23.8 pts) is celebrated as one of the stories of the season.
  • Jamar Chase, Chris Olave, Christian Watson, and others round out the week’s best.

Tight Ends

• [42:37]
  • Trey McBride sets season record for TE receptions, surpassing Zach Ertz.
    • [42:53] Jeremy: “He may be at 130 by the end of next year.”

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B. Dud Performances and Wounded Hopes

Quarterbacks

• [46:53]–[48:17] Jared Goff, Jalen Hurts, and Sam Darnold all face scrutiny for season-dampening games.
  • [47:06] Jeremy: “Goff: Three fumbles lost, two interceptions... That was not that good.”

Running Backs

• [50:25]–[52:43]
  • Josh Jacobs’ “steaming pile” performance (4 carries, 3 yards) as the lowest low.
  • Jameer Gibbs, Saquon Barkley, and Jaylen Warren all underwhelm.
• [51:22] Jason: “Two active weeks in a row for Jacobs in the playoffs where you combine the games and don’t even have five fantasy points.”

Wide Receivers

• [53:04]–[56:35]
  • Disappointments abound: CeeDee Lamb, Nico Collins, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore.
  • [54:18] Jason: “[Jefferson’s] fantasy points since week 10: 5, 8, 6, 1, 2, 3, 11, 5... That doesn’t make sense for the best WR.”

Tight Ends

• [60:17] Taysom Hill vanishes after big projections.
  • Jeremy: “Zero targets, zero rushing yards after being a third of the offense the week prior.”

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C. News and Notes

• [15:47] Injury and roster updates:

  • Drake London available, Davante Adams out.
  • Josh Allen gets x-rays again; Geno Smith suffers high ankle sprain.
  • Cardinal misery and coaching hot seat discussed.
  • Jalen Waddle and Luther Burden picked up injuries, but Burden expected to be OK.

• [16:48] Jason sums up Buffalo’s pain: “Something is wrong in my foot, they just can’t find it.”

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D. Season Reflections and Dynasty Implications

• [57:45]–[60:01]
  • Wide-ranging dynasty debates on Chris Olave, Luther Burden, Tet McMillan, and Nico Collins.
  • [40:28] Jason on Tet McMillan vs. Olave: “Oh, man, I'll go Tet there.”
  • The hosts discuss reasons for second-year letdowns (Lad McConkey, Brian Thomas Jr.), and the impact of changing team landscapes.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Mike: “Every man dies. Not every man is a super duper champ.” [10:26]
• Jason: “Derrick Henry 45.6 points. If you add up Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb, Amon-Ra… they equal 45.6 for those eight dudes.” [14:31]
• Jeremy: “Sometimes if you go up against something like that, you just tip your cap and move on to next year.” [04:10]
• Jason: “You can be the greatest WR and have a run of this much irrelevance for fantasy if your QBs are a backup and then a backup to the backup.” [54:18]
• Mike: “…the crowning achievement of my fantasy football career. And you’re over, you’re like, like, no, you go work.” [12:01]
• Jason: “We were that meme of the reaper just going through the doors.” [15:31]
• Jeremy: “Week 18 weirdos, we’re still here for you.” [62:03]
• Mike: “Tougher than early 1900s coal miners doing the heavy lifting of week 18…” [62:16]

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Final Segment: Advice, Announcements, and Next Week

• Focus will shift to Week 18 weirdness and future dynasty content.
• “Footy Awards” and “Truth Series” coming soon.
• One more game – encouragement for those still playing or enjoying NFL action in Week 18.
• Plugs for championship merch at shopballers.com and fantasychamps.com (“before Mike buys them all!”).

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Takeaways for Listeners

• Celebrate: Enjoy (and commemorate) your wins!
• Commiserate: Sometimes, you can’t beat Derrick Henry—move on and don’t blame yourself.
• Stay Water: The Fantasy Footballers emphasize adaptability, active management, and not sitting still with “pretty” lineups.
• Dynasty Watch: The balance between talent, opportunity, and changing NFL realities is as tricky as ever.

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Further Listening

• Tune in for the Week 18 “Megalodon” mailbag episode for more deep-dive matchup analysis, offbeat takes, and signature Footballers humor.
• Follow the Ballers for off-season dynasty breakdowns and “Truth Series” retrospectives.

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Transcript

[Jason]

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[Jeremy]

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[Mike]

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[Jason]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway J and Mike Wright.

[Mike]

Welcome in.

[Jason]

I don't know why Andy and I are here today. We really don't need to be here. Andy.

[Mike]

What's up, everybody?

[Jeremy]

That makes sense.

[Mike]

Welcome in.

[Jeremy]

All of that makes sense. The intro makes sense. Turn off our mics. Jason, you want to go watch some.

[Jason]

Yeah, let's baseball. Let's get into a man spring training yet or what?

[Mike]

Oh, my. Pitches and catches pretty soon.

[Jason]

Oh, man. I. You know what?

[Jeremy]

I don't.

[Jason]

I. I was pretty upset, you know that you did the unthinkable. You got the double up. Our two primary super duper. The super duper champ.

[Mike]

They said it couldn't be done.

[Jason]

Everything, of course, but I'm not going to lie to you. Hearing that you've been pretty chill today, but as soon as that intro music was played and you came in, you made me happy. I'm happy for you.

[Jeremy]

I didn't know if I was going to be walking because I got in here later than you two. I didn't know if I was going to be walking into the double crowns a robe. I didn't know what I was going to see. And then he was. He was pretty chill. And then he took over the show immediately, which is really a preemptive celebration. It's not over yet, but honestly.

[Jason]

That's right, Jeremy, for you, you just need 131 more points from your three players.

[Jeremy]

That's right.

[Jason]

Okay, so not anybody's game.

[Jeremy]

50 from cousins, 40 more from puka, and then you just need like another 45 from Kyron. There's not enough touchdowns in that game. Yeah. Mike is the double champ. He was so cautious to accept any congratulations early. I also do wonder, like, if you just asked the question. By the way, congratulations to everybody out there. All the football titles.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Jeremy]

If you went up against Derek Henry and you lost, I'm sorry.

[Jason]

Ain't no shame in that.

[Jeremy]

I'm sorry. That's the. That was one of the biggest fantasy performances in a long time. And that's why we say it takes a ton of skill to get to the playoffs. And sometimes if you go up against something like that, you just tip your cap and move on to next year.

[Mike]

Watching the end of that, like the. The where it was lining up with the Ravens and you were like, oh, Henry's going to carry one more time. And me and my boy were watching, I'm like, what if he scores? What if he scores one? Henry, do it.

[Jeremy]

Oh, Vermont was.

[Mike]

And then ravaged by a blizzard, like, nah, man, we're. Who cares? Go ahead, Derek Henry. We don't need to stop this.

[Jason]

I mean, in the year of Mike, this was the ultimate. The ultimate completion to your special year. Literally this week, the biggest performance in modern day history in a championship week was Derek Henry. And probably the worst that I can remember in championship week was Josh Jacobs.

[Jeremy]

Does that get.

[Jason]

And you had Derek Henry and you played against Josh Jacobs. It was like right off the bat.

[Jeremy]

I did think with Jacob's performance, how that might have been comforting to you knowing that it was. Had you made it through, you would have been. You would have been beaten probably.

[Mike]

Derek Henry had more touchdowns than Jacobs had yards.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. It was a 50 to nothing shut out that night. Al Borland had Josh Jacobs. Oh, he's off the injury report. Here we go. And if you looked at it from a matchup perspective, you're like, well, you know, I don't feel amazing about. They know Henry's going to get the ball, right? You don't have Lamar Jackson, like all the logic and stuff said, hey, this could be a foul.

[Mike]

My God, it was a call.

[Jason]

The.

[Jeremy]

But everything that else that could happen went Mike's way this, this year. I mean, I. We kept seeing it.

[Jason]

Yeah, it was. I mean, everything. Every desire. Luther Burden. I mean, you just like Luther. You just like him. You just like him. So he's the number one wide receiver on the week. It's like crazy. Mike has no more problems, personal problems at home, no more children. They've all been sacrificed.

[Jeremy]

For Christian McCaffrey, it was so symbolic for him to put the icing on the case for Mike. And then he kind of left the field. He left the field to stretch out. It looked like maybe he was hurt. And it was like, I did my job. Mike is now champion, and I may rest.

[Mike]

It was because of how fantasy football works. Christian McCaffrey goes out and I puts up either the best, his personal best, or second best half of football in his career. The second half kinda, oh, let my petered off.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, but he was hurt. He actually got hurt.

[Mike]

But Christian McCaffrey, RB1. It is done, my friend. At least for.

[Jeremy]

For us.

[Mike]

San Francisco, you're. You're on your own. I don't care. I don't care about the 49ers success or not, but Christian McCaffrey from start to finish. Oh, my.

[Jeremy]

Since 2019. Running back 1. 53 and 39. Injured. Injured. Running back 2. Running back 1. Champ.

[Jason]

Champ.

[Jeremy]

Running back 72. Injured. Running back 1.

[Mike]

Oh, Christian.

[Jeremy]

If he had not been hurt, we would be talking surpassing the LT type of dominance in fantasy football. But. And this was Mike's call at the beginning of the year. I mean, it was Jeremy.

[Mike]

We had a Josh Jacobs, Christian McCaffrey bet. Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason]

Who won? I'm going to.

[Mike]

I'm going to crunch the numbers right now. But see, the thing was ahead, I was. I was like, I was so close for the week. I went. No, I went. And I was like, total points. And Jeremy's like, do you want points per game? I was like, no. Total points.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

I feel like the real moment, it began when Travium started to come alive. Mike's season from that point on was as perfect as it could get. And I know Papa Josh got eliminated in the semifinals and is praying he somehow doesn't Pass Mike's points this week. I don't think he will. So I think he can be comforted in his failure. But there's a. I mean, there's so much going on this week is. It's week 18, but we're wrapping up with a Monday night football game. Tons of championships on the line because you got big players in the game, right? Puka, Kyron Stafford, Bijon London Pitts. Right, who's had a big role on a lot of fantasy teams in the fantasy playoffs. So there's a lot going on for champs out there. Mike already Talked about it. Fantasychamps.com Trophies, belts, rings. Use the code BALLERS. We have two foot clan title shirts now available on the website. If you go to Shop Ballers out. Okay. Mike bottom all. Mike bottom all.

[Mike]

Dude, we have so many variations.

[Jeremy]

We do. We got. We've got. Oh, man, Mike must have bought so many things. Mike is like, filtering his entire salary back into the company. Shop Ballers.com FootClan Title T shirts, mugs celebrate your championship. We have the footy awards coming up soon. We have the truth series coming up soon. We've already started looking at some names in the collegiate scouting world, but we're not there yet.

[Mike]

Very soon.

[Jeremy]

Looks like Al Borland has sent you $100.

[Mike]

Thank you.

[Jeremy]

Because that's what you need right now. I will.

[Jason]

He does.

[Jeremy]

I do.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Jeremy]

Mike was sending some.

[Jason]

He's going straight to fantasychamps.com Mike was.

[Jeremy]

Sending some updates this week. We all have these, like, whoop bands on, right, that keep track of our. Or I guess you got an apple watch. It keeps track of your heart rate and stuff like that. But he sent this, like, update, and it was like multiple hours of high stress.

[Mike]

100% real. Nothing stays your heartbeat. I spent two hours in high stress according to my whoop. And all I did was sit and watch for eight hours, which begged the.

[Jeremy]

Question, like, I started thinking about this. I was like, you got a double championship. This is a good feeling, I assume.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, it really is.

[Jeremy]

And you know, stress that leads to, you know, a lot of health problems, long term stress.

[Mike]

Right.

[Jeremy]

So I'm just wondering, how many years off your life would you trade for what you just did?

[Mike]

I've lost years of my life.

[Jeremy]

That's what I mean. Like, would you, like, worth it if that was the actual trade? At the deadline? Two years.

[Mike]

Every man died.

[Jeremy]

Would you give it?

[Mike]

Every man dies. Not every man is a super duper champ.

[Jeremy]

What did your family enjoy yesterday when you knew it was secure?

[Mike]

Well, do you want the real story?

[Jeremy]

Yes.

[Mike]

It's not what you think.

[Jeremy]

It's safe for work.

[Mike]

It is. It's not what you think it is. So my sister's brother. Her family came over. They were doing Christmas because we weren't able to meet with them, and so their kids were over.

[Jeremy]

Hold on a second. Your sister's brother?

[Mike]

I'm sorry, that's like.

[Jason]

That's.

[Mike]

That's me.

[Jeremy]

That would be your own brother, my.

[Mike]

Sister in law, or yourself? My wife's brother came over then, so they're doing their Christmas stuff. And I mean, it's. It's a. It's a little dark, so I apologize. I'm watching. Christian McCaffrey's first half is just. Just basking in everything. And my father in law had passed over the summer, and so they were like. And for whatever reason, they just. They decide this is the time that we're gonna start working through some grief and like, talking like all the events of that. Of the. The final days. And I'm sitting there watching the T, and eventually I'm like, wait, you're trying to be happy? I'm like, I don't want to be insensitive. Root of my.

[Jeremy]

But I'm gonna scream right now.

[Mike]

You get the vibes. You guys are really, really killing my vibes right now. And they just start laughing hysterically. So I'm like, this is.

[Jason]

This is happy time.

[Mike]

This is like the crowning achievement of my fantasy football career.

[Jeremy]

Right?

[Mike]

And you're over. You're like, like, no, you go work.

[Jason]

You gotta go outside. It's nice outside. Go back.

[Jeremy]

Wow.

[Mike]

Wow.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, it was a. It was a big week. And speaking of which, you submitted Monday punday. Answers to the weekend. The good, the bad. I have not read or previewed one of these.

[Jason]

Oh, all right.

[Jeremy]

So I'm going blind. All of this at the feet of Brooks. Who put these in the dock. I have no clue if they're good or bad, but I bet they'll all sound good.

[Mike]

Read my roster.

[Jeremy]

Good to Mike.

[Jason]

Mike.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah. So ring Henry.

[Jeremy]

Mike should just take all the good.

[Mike]

Okay. Christian McNasty. Ooh, who's this? Brock party. Brock Purwee. How about Omarion Champton? Oh, Jason, this one's gonna feel good for you.

[Jason]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mike]

Odric est.

[Jason]

Uh, who I love.

[Mike]

Oh, Luther Berwin. Luther. Beast of Burden. Okay, we got Drake and Bake.

[Jeremy]

I like that.

[Mike]

And I helped. How about Colston Dublin?

[Jason]

Mr. Dublin. Dublin.

[Jeremy]

You want to handle these, Jay? Sure.

[Jason]

Taysom Nil. Taysum over the Hill Loss Jacobs, Josh Fakeobs. That was my guy. Cd Sham.

[Mike]

Cd.

[Jeremy]

A lot of hate for cd.

[Mike]

He was on my roster and I was disappointed.

[Jason]

All right. Saquon Barfley, Classic Jameer Fibs, Yucky Irving.

[Jeremy]

He was big.

[Jason]

Kenneth Gainless, Jared Goffel, Tetaroa McVillian and Seamus.

[Mike]

No, no, you can't.

[Jeremy]

That's good. Technical difficulties.

[Jason]

Old difficulties. Yeah.

[Jeremy]

And Seamus and Williams. Yeah, that was there. There were big name duds.

[Mike]

I mean there's some big pants that got filled this weekend.

[Jeremy]

What was. I wanted to find that. Where's that graphic where Derek Henry outscored? It was like eight or nine of the biggest names in fantasy. Amon, R.A. and McConkey. And I wish I could find that graphic. If you see it, share it in the doc and I'll read it out. It's the. Yeah, Kyle said he'll find it. It's just the most amazing list where you know, Derek Henry against. Yeah, I got it. You do?

[Mike]

So Derek Henry.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. Tell me who he outscored by himself.

[Mike]

Let's see the tweet was. Or you just screenshot it. So It's Derek Hen, 45.6 points.

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

If you add up Justin Jefferson, CD Lamb, Almond Ross, St. Brown. Is it. I think that's Nico Lad, McConkey, Jacobs, Jameson and Gibbs equal. And Gibbs 45.6 points for those eight dudes.

[Jeremy]

You imagine if you went into a game and it was like you have Henry and they have. That was your roster and yeah, that's your roster and you could have.

[Jason]

Those are stars.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, I don't. I don't want to like, you know, not everybody won a title and if you had some of these guys you got here, be proud of that. Be proud of the fact you made it to this week. Sometimes it goes your way with every single player in every situation like Mike. And sometimes it doesn't. But yeah. What a. What a wild weekend.

[Jason]

And congratulations to Matt in the Listener League who went.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Through a playoff run in a 14 team league averaging 138 points. That's hard to do. And his run went through Andy in the first round, Mike in the second round and me in the championship.

[Mike]

We were that meme of the reaper just going through the doors.

[Jason]

So he'll be back.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. Unfortunately not an extra spot in the Listener League because we tried, all three of us tried to beat him and we couldn't do it. Let's talk some news.

[Jason]

News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insur.

[Jeremy]

You Will have Drake London tonight. You won't have Devonte Adams tonight. So a couple of injury updates for the evening. Not sure how to feel about this. The game was. The game was right there for them. Buffalo. Oh, he missed. Josh Allen missed. Khalil Shakir on a wide open pass to end the game.

[Mike]

Jason Big dome is so bad.

[Jason]

That's right.

[Jeremy]

Put a roof on it because of the rain.

[Mike]

Yeah. How's that feel? Championship week. Enjoy your football weather.

[Jeremy]

I mean he just had to complete one pass.

[Mike]

And I'm talking about Josh Allen for fantasy was like.

[Jeremy]

Well, the last two weeks for Josh Allen was. Were bad QB.

[Mike]

I mean look, QB 10.

[Jeremy]

And what did Philly have in the second half? Like 17 yards offense. I mean it was terrible.

[Jason]

Hertz did not complete a pass in the second half.

[Jeremy]

I believe now this is why the Eagles fans I know are very, very afraid. But their defense might be good enough to just win. Josh Allen got X rays on his foot and ankle again after the loss.

[Mike]

Second week in a row.

[Jeremy]

That's still negative.

[Mike]

That's suboptimal.

[Jeremy]

He is trying to find something on these X rays. He's like it. I mean that's really what it means. It means this hurts. Let's check it again.

[Jason]

Something is wrong in my foot. They just can't find it.

[Jeremy]

And they were right there. But they lost. Geno Smith suffered a high ankle sprain against the Giants.

[Mike]

They actually the Tankathon game was just.

[Jeremy]

There was one team tanking for sure.

[Jason]

It was so funny. The kind of almost back and forth before the game. The back and forth. This guy's going on ir. Oh, yeah. Well, our tackle is going on ir.

[Mike]

Wait, hold. Brock Bowers. Well, yes.

[Jeremy]

What the.

[Mike]

Johnson's not going to play.

[Jeremy]

You saw the Max Crosby video, right?

[Mike]

Yeah, of him pooping baskets and super hurt.

[Jeremy]

Jumping on a trampoline.

[Mike]

He is a warrior and he was mad.

[Jeremy]

Breeze hall had a huge game. Had a 59 yard touchdown. Hit his knee on the turf. They were worried about it. He said he's fine. He will not need imaging. Rashid Shahid concussion. Marvin Harrison did nothing.

[Mike]

I didn't even see that.

[Jeremy]

Jonathan Gannon, he hurt his heel again. Yeah, he was 0 for 1, I think.

[Mike]

Oh my gosh.

[Jason]

Yeah, one target didn't catch it.

[Jeremy]

And what a. What a. Just what a terrible team. Cardinals are so bad. This guy, number two still on, still employees, still has a job, gainfully employed.

[Jason]

And honestly I'm not positive he's going to be fired this off season. No, no. I mean now. Keep in Mind if we lose? If he loses this last game, he'll be the most, the losingest if 14.

[Jeremy]

Point underdogs against the Rams who need the game.

[Jason]

Yes.

[Jeremy]

So they will lose by more points than Mike scored this weekend.

[Jason]

When they lose the final game he will be the losing his coach in Cardinal history.

[Jeremy]

He will be fired.

[Jason]

I mean how could he not be? He will be literally the worst of all time.

[Jeremy]

Drew Petsing will be fired. The whole team will be fired.

[Mike]

I mean into the cannon.

[Jeremy]

I hate them.

[Jason]

Aim it at the sun.

[Jeremy]

I hate them. And here I am with a hat on. Jalen Waddle injured his ribs.

[Jason]

You know for Christmas. I got some hats like I was asking.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jason]

And. Oh no, I couldn't.

[Jeremy]

You were asking for hats.

[Jason]

I was and a lot of them are Cardinal hats and I just couldn't get myself to put it on. And I have another hat that I really like is just a goat hat. I was like I can't wear that today.

[Jeremy]

This is Mike's to go. Luther Burton injured.

[Mike]

You guys want one of these are Borrows mclemonade hats, limited edition. I can get you some.

[Jason]

It's his team. Gross. I'm back to big mad. No longer happy for you.

[Jeremy]

We're just trying to do a show, Mike.

[Mike]

I mean I'm over here. I'm. I don't know how I'm going to afford the draft guys. I'm going to need a loan.

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

The things I will have to do.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. The draft. Normally the champ has been spending money on their presentation.

[Jason]

I'll get you the super duper g the info for the marching band.

[Mike]

I was there.

[Jeremy]

Thank you, man. Luther Burden injured on the final play of the game. Quad injury. Not believed to be serious. I saw another update moments ago that said he's just tired. That's what it said. Harold Fannin aggravated his groin injury.

[Mike]

That was.

[Jeremy]

I mean after scoring a touchdown.

[Mike]

Yeah, thankfully he gave you a touchdown but that was a big time bummer. What do you have early?

[Jason]

Early.

[Mike]

10 points or something in the first half of the first quarter.

[Jeremy]

Yep. Darnell Washington broke his forearm. This was terrible for the Steelers. They're now in a dude a one game battle for the playoffs. And Jason's dreams can come true if the Ravens win which is that the first time Tom misses the playoffs is with Aaron Rodgers.

[Mike]

Steelers fans like I did have a rooting interest, I will admit that of Jaylen Warren was on my team watching that game. I had. I had no clue what the Pittsburgh Steelers were doing. They could get nothing going in the passing offense. Jalen Warren is just gouging every single time he's handed the ball and they're like we're going to do this with.

[Jeremy]

Aaron Rodgers though, and with MVS and throw to mvs.

[Mike]

You lost. You had the chance to clinch the division and you lost to the Cleveland Browns.

[Jeremy]

You targeted Denzel Ward three times in a row to end the game. I mean just mvs. So if that was DK Metcalf and you're like, yeah, I want to take my shot with my best player, whatever. It's still not a great how close.

[Jason]

It was really genuinely felt like DK Metcalf, if he's there they, they might win that game.

[Jeremy]

Like they probably three and a half point road or home underdogs now for the final week, I think that Warren.

[Mike]

Was 12 for 64.

[Jason]

Metcalfe's Metcalf's gaff probably cost them the playoffs.

[Jeremy]

They probably are going to miss it. Jatavian Sanders suffered a frank fractured ankle. Frank shirt, Frank shirt, Frankfurt ankle. No, this sucks.

[Mike]

He's been and that was like it was right? It was like the first or second play.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, he's been. He's had a hard time staying healthy at times that was news and Notes Sponsored by Progressive Insurance quote [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions will take a break and we'll talk some of Mike's players. This episode is supported by Prize Picks. Whether you're starting a new routine or making picks for the first time, trying something new, well, that can be difficult. But in life and on Prize Picks, it always feels good to be right. I'm talking to Papa Josh here. It always feels good to be more right than Papa Josh. Look, Prize Picks now has early payouts. I just found out about this. If your player gets off to a hot start, you've got the option now to cash out on those winnings before the game even finishes. And they have a social Feeds feature. You can share your prize picks with your friends. You can copy lineups from winners with one click. My only rule is you don't follow or accept friend requests from Papa Josh himself. Look, how simple is it to get started? We come from the app development world. We love the prizepix app. It's super easy to use. It's just smart and clean and easy. It's not like anything else out there. It's made the sport watching experience super fun. It just adds some value to the sport watching experience and we absolutely love it. So you can download the Prize Picks app today. Use the Code footballers to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. That is the code footballers to get $50 in lineUps after you play your first $5upup. Prize picks it's good to be right.

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[Jeremy]

By the way, before we get into studs, just to focus on duds, you finally lost the championship game.

[Jason]

I did finally lose a champion game.

[Jeremy]

But he knew every time he had made a title game in the past, he had always. You never knew the sting of defeat.

[Jason]

I never knew the sting, but it was one of those things where I knew going in like I shouldn't have won the week prior because my team was a trash. So.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, you never, never once liked your team and you almost won a championship with it.

[Jason]

Yeah, I scored the most points in the league, but some. It's weird, man. It was a weird.

[Mike]

You had the most points in the league and then in the playoffs you were like 90 points a week.

[Jason]

Yeah, because that's what the team should have been doing.

[Jeremy]

It was just out kicking the coverage for 15 weeks. All right, let's talk some studs. Championship studs.

[Jason]

This week's fantasy Stud Muffins presented by Low.

[Jeremy]

Well, it was Drake Mays week in about a half.

[Mike]

Goodness gracious.

[Jeremy]

Highest QBR I think in a really, really long time. But then Brock Purdy ever it might have been ever. Brock Purdy passed him yesterday. Purdy is cooking right now.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Jeremy]

No George Kittle and he's still cooking.

[Mike]

And it's like the man Brock Purdy is playing so well. He's being elusive. He's making play where great decisions. He's rolling out of the pocket, avoiding multiple tackles for a wide open, finding a guy.

[Jason]

I mean that play was unbelievable.

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Jason]

That was not Kyle Shanahan. That was not a scheme and a system of like, you know, that he put him in this great opportunity. That was Brock Purdy making plays.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, Purdy was Number one, Drake May. Number two, Malik Willis. Which dude, I kid you not. I want. I won a championship because of Malik Willis.

[Jason]

Well done.

[Jeremy]

I had a basketball league that I remember drafting him going, you know, Jordan Love always gets hurt. And Malik Willis, this was not dink and dunk. This was downfield targets. The rumors before the game was that Malik Willis is a free agent.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

And that he may get a chance to start.

[Mike]

Oh, he will.

[Jeremy]

And then he comes out and does what he did there.

[Mike]

You combine.

[Jeremy]

I'll take him in Arizona.

[Mike]

You combine that with. I mean, was it last year or two years ago? Jeremy, you might remember, but like Malik Willis had a stretch where it's like they're winning, they're winning games and Malik Willis is doing the things like he's figuring out how to win.

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Last. Last year he started weeks two and three and won both of those games.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. So Jackson dart bounce back week.

[Mike]

Thank goodness. Thank goodness. I know it's the Raiders, but coming.

[Jeremy]

Off of the football. Yeah.

[Mike]

Coming off of the week where they like were punishing dart or just never letting him throw, it was really weird. Very discouraging. So this was great to see. And it was included 9 for 48 and 2 on the ground.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. He looked like the good Jackson dart and. And he will have better weapons.

[Mike]

Not in concussion protocol, to my knowledge.

[Jeremy]

No, he's not permanently part of it.

[Mike]

It seemed like every week you be in.

[Jeremy]

If they just do the protocol every week he's in better shape. But next year, I mean, Malik neighbors, Cam scatter, Boo's return and you know, they're sitting at number two. They could trade down. They could make more investments in offensive weapons for him, offensive linemen for him. Yeah, get him all.

[Jason]

Obviously they would have had more draft capital to be able to trade down had they gotten the number one pick. But in truth, they have the number one pick for them because the Raiders are going to take a quarterback.

[Mike]

Right.

[Jason]

And so at number two, they're going to get whatever player they want.

[Jeremy]

And the Raiders don't technically have it yet. Just to remind you, like the Raiders should, that team can't lose next week, but it is Kansas City with a third string quarterback. So it's still better than I think their odds are like 80% right now. But it's not a lock. Josh Allen, somehow. Josh Allen somehow ends up at number five. So Trevor Lawrence had a good week. Caleb Williams start of the week, 3:30 and 2.

[Mike]

Nice.

[Jeremy]

I don't understand. With three timeouts and 70 seconds left on the clock at the 40 yard line of San Francisco. How you ended up in a situation where you ran out of time on the goal line, I think that was a horrible mismanagement by that head coach who's been great all year. I'm just saying, like there's no situation with three timeouts in the ball at the 40 where you should be running out of time before you can run enough plays on the goal line. They tried the hook and ladder. Obviously that didn't get him into the insole. It was a tricky play, but you got to do that with a timeout, in my opinion. Tyler Shuck, baby.

[Mike]

Oh, going to be shook tonight.

[Jason]

He was shocking it.

[Jeremy]

333 and 2. First four game winning streak for the Saints since Drew Brees was a quarterback for them. And to this stat, he's one of only three rookie quarterbacks with back to back 350, no interception game since 1970. Dak Burrow, shuck.

[Mike]

That's.

[Jason]

You gotta be excited as a Saints fan. Yes, you do, because you've got your guy.

[Jeremy]

He's the rookie of the year. He's going to be the rookie on offense.

[Mike]

So that's. What a story.

[Jeremy]

And then Joe Burrow also got it done in his classic two and a half quarters.

[Mike]

Yeah. Got benched again for being too good.

[Jason]

Told you you wanted it.

[Jeremy]

You did want it. Yeah. Derek Henry, obviously.

[Jason]

Thank you. Jamar Chase for them touchdowns.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

Number one, Derek Henry on the week for running back and everybody. Chase Brown, Mike's guy. Christian McCaffrey, Mike's guy. Number two and three, Charbonnet. There it is. Yeah, Charbonnet. 25.2 fantasy points. I saw something this morning. I think it was from underdog. I want to give them credit for posting it. Do you know the points per game of Kenneth Walker and Zach Charbonnet?

[Mike]

Oh, they like dead even.

[Jeremy]

10.1 points per game.

[Jason]

For both.

[Jeremy]

For both.

[Jason]

Oh, my gosh. And if you look at like percentage of points from yards and percentage of points from touchdowns, I'll bet they are wildly different. Just a yin yang.

[Jeremy]

Ramondre. I think he only had eight carries in this game. Still had 24 fantasy points. Ramondre, you knew it was coming.

[Mike]

I did. And it was. Thank goodness, Travion. And if you were against Ramon Dre, thank goodness Henderson came back from the concussion because if he had gotten all the work in that time period, he might have scored three touchdowns. Four maybe. I don't know.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, it was an amazing redemption story for Chase Brown on the year. The start to the season was atrocious I mean I.

[Mike]

That's Joe Burrow.

[Jeremy]

I started this year in league of record with Burrow and Chase on my roster. Burrow goes down and fast forward like it's a long season. The Chase Brown story is a. Is a story of remembering it's a long season. And this was a complete unadulterated bust. He wasn't running well. He wasn't scoring. The team was atrocious. He just won people championships. Five touchdowns in the final two weeks. Strong argument for fantasy MVP in terms of that stretch.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jason]

From.

[Mike]

I mean I don't remember when Flacco got there, but it's like you can see week six RB20 with eight points. Okay. I mean better than the crappy had been giving you.

[Jason]

But from then on got there week.

[Mike]

Six there and then, from then on it was just. It was double digits at least every week. And then two top five finishes in the last two rounds of the playoffs.

[Jason]

One month does not a season make. I mean if you, if you look at that first month and you know you're Chase Brown my guy. You're Jameson William my guy.

[Jeremy]

Just ask a Buka and Jameson Williams.

[Mike]

Whether a month of the season so.

[Jeremy]

Funny defines things for you. We were looking at. I was looking up this morning. First seven weeks of the season. Abuka was the wide receiver six through seven weeks.

[Jason]

It's a long stretch.

[Jeremy]

Jameson Williams was the wide receiver 40 through seven weeks. From week eight on they completely flipped. Wide receiver six, wide receiver 40. Basically the run you need to stay water. This is why we say you don't. You never get to lock in the lineup that you think looks really pretty and then just do nothing.

[Jason]

No, I mean Mike, Mike had. He made a trade for Justin Jefferson. He had Cortland Sutton for the playoffs. Yeah. He had a team that was number one in the league at that point. And he didn't just sit there and rest. He swapped those guys for the Chase Burrow Stack played against the team you made that trade with in the championship game and you got the Chase Burroughs stack against his Justin Jefferson. And Cortland Sutton also traded for Chase.

[Jeremy]

Brown at the deadline.

[Mike]

Right.

[Jeremy]

I mean the moves were it's the year of Mike see the.

[Mike]

For Chase Brown too. If you're in dynasty, you gotta be very, very happy about the way that things went. Of me you go from weeks two through five, that's a running back who for sure is getting replaced next year.

[Jeremy]

Also I.

[Mike]

There's a chance they just roll with Chase Brown next year and he's the guy again.

[Jeremy]

I Would like the NFL to enact more of a collegiate playoff committee. And I would like the Saints to be awarded the south title because they will be more entertaining than whatever's happening in Tampa or Carolina. So I want the Saints to be given the title to go to the playoffs. I would also like the Bengals to be given the title in the north because I don't really want to watch Pittsburgh or Baltimore as much as I'd like to watch Chase Brown and Jamar Chase and Burrow. So I would like to award those two titles.

[Jason]

Do you think Harbaugh Baltimore version learned his lesson with like they should have won two weeks ago if they just kept giving Henry, oh, Derek Henry and then he got so much crap for. It's like, hey, this week we're just giving Henry the ball every time.

[Jeremy]

I hope the way he thought about it was like, oh yeah, this is what you want, right? Let's see how it goes.

[Jason]

See if he can handle it.

[Jeremy]

See if he. I'll give him his. I'll give him his career high in carries. I don't care. Watch. What?

[Jason]

Oh, like when, when Lamar comes back. If, if they, if they win this week and they get in the playoffs and Lamar comes back and is round one of the playoffs, you should be giving Derek Henry the ball every play. I don't care. Just through the NFL playoffs, just hand it off to Derek Henry 80% of your play.

[Jeremy]

Does it feel like you had a 1500 yard and 16 touchdown season, Jason?

[Jason]

Yeah, it does.

[Jeremy]

Oh, for Derek Henry. Yeah. I don't think that's the perception from a lot of people.

[Jason]

I guess coming off this week, it's hard to not feel like it.

[Jeremy]

Well, ye. This season was not one in which we talked about Derek Henry a ton on the studs every week. And yet he just persists as a machine. Jcm hey, guess what? This was cool. Let's just rule. Rule. Chris Rodriguez out moments before the game due to illness. And JCM had a monster game. Breeze Hall. We talked about it last week.

[Jason]

Estimate. Come on.

[Jeremy]

Last week, Jason, start of the week.

[Jason]

Was Audrey estimated And the guy that I.

[Jeremy]

And he played him.

[Jason]

Yeah, I played him in my matchup. I picked him up. I recommended playing him. It seemed like he would be the guy. But lo and behold, I forgot about a player who didn't exist basically in Taysom Hill, who became their starting running back for one game in the Superdome. One game, which is probably his last game at home in the Superdome. And then they're like, okay, now let's go to what we were going to do. And audric estimate 14 for 94 and a touchdown.

[Jeremy]

He feels good, right?

[Mike]

Other than feels good and bad so Jonathan Taylor rushed for more yards than estimated against the Titans who have been a very stingy run defense. Estimate as a player has the second most yards against the Titans of all the running backs that they have faced.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, yeah it was. It was crazy. Hampton ended up catching eight passes in this game that saved him and got a touchdown. Jonathan Taylor a touchdown and was 21 for 70 at wide receiver this week. Luther Burden 23.8 I love Luther. We got word late again. I thought I was cursed once again with illness with the I had Chris Rodriguez the start of the week right goes down to illness. Then I named Caleb Williams start of the week and we get word yesterday as we're like as I'm driving DJ Moore and then Zakia both down with illness. You're already missing a dunes day. I'm like great. But luther burden stepped up 23.8 a lava 21.9. Jamar Chase, Chris Godwin and Christian Watson rounding out the top five.

[Mike]

Burden is going to be a menace.

[Jason]

Yeah, this is one of those A lot of times people, they don't make the playoffs, they check out, they don't pay attention, they don't keep up with football the rest of the way. You might miss this real because it's very late in the season but Burden's having a breakout. The way that it happened where he started looking amazing and then got injured and then missed the game and then thankfully that was, you know, prime time. So I think more people saw it. But Burden will be very interesting next year. You look at this roster, DJ Moore should be back unless they trade him.

[Mike]

Because contract wise they owe him so much money.

[Jason]

But Rome should be healthy and much better. Then you've got this Burden breakout.

[Mike]

The Loveland Loveland breakout touchdown guarantee. Yes. Oh yes.

[Jeremy]

Luther Burden, Colston Loveland. The future is here.

[Mike]

It's fun. Congratulations Bears.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, you know it's exciting and look you were right there. You could have won this game easily. It was it's against the team that might get the number one seed in the entire conference. And you know the playoffs are going to be fun. And Luther Burden nice that he's not super hurt.

[Mike]

Right.

[Jeremy]

Olave ends the year or is going to end our fantasy season as the wide receiver. Six eight for 119 and one getting shocked each and every week.

[Jason]

102 receptions, 1400 yards and 13 touchdowns is his pace with Shuck that's his that is what Chris Olavi has done with shuck and it's been super consistent almost every single game. A good game one one bad game, one mediocre game and everything else great.

[Mike]

I mean in 14 yards of catch.

[Jason]

It is this is he's a good wide receiver.

[Mike]

This is yes. He's always been a good wide receiver. Has been surrounded by garbage where we're rolling out Spencer Rattler and Derek Carr is like this Stop it. Get out of here. That's not the solution then the concussion situation. So the Olave being back to relevance.

[Jason]

Is the dinosaur value of Olave has been a wild just a and I'm.

[Jeremy]

Going to be honest with you, I.

[Jason]

Would trade him an M shape I.

[Jeremy]

Was concussion worry no, not as by the way shout out to Alava he's going to play 17 weeks. I mean he's playing next week and the Concussions it wasn't just last year like he had been knocked out previous years with injury. So amazing for this dude. I would trade him on the sort of like if you can get this kind of value for him. I saw a list and I wish I could find the tweet maybe Kyle can of what the other starting cast and that Tyler Schuck has other than Olave.

[Mike]

Oh, yes.

[Jeremy]

The starting seven or eight players. I mean it's, it's undrafted players. It's nobody's right. Vale's hurt. They don't have other receivers. I'm not going to say he's going to Brian Thomas next year, but it has some similarities to me where it's like you're the only show in town by a wide margin. They should go out and spend some money on some pass catchers next year and I think that will make a difference on the target share. I don't know if it stays the same. I'm not saying Olavi's a bust.

[Mike]

Right. I'm just saying I think they might be happy with Vale though.

[Jeremy]

I would, I would guess that they'd add some more and then Vale hasn't been there in the last few weeks. But I, I, he's been awesome. I mean Olave is an awesome player. So I don't know what the view is on Dynasty where you guys have him right now in the in the rankings.

[Jason]

It's really tough because when you have a young, talented wide receiver, that's like what I just drool over for Dynasty. And so it's very different.

[Jeremy]

Luther Burden or Chris Olave?

[Jason]

Ooh, Chris Olave for me.

[Mike]

Yeah, I think It's Olave.

[Jeremy]

Tetero, McMillan or Olave.

[Jason]

Oh, man. I'll go Tet there.

[Mike]

Aroa.

[Jason]

Thank you.

[Mike]

Don't Tet.

[Jeremy]

Auroa, Nico or Lava.

[Jason]

Age gap.

[Jeremy]

It's 26.8 for Nico and 25.5 for Olave.

[Jason]

Then I'll go Nico.

[Mike]

I'll stay with Nico.

[Jeremy]

But Buka or Olave. Oh, man. A Buca is 23 years old. Like that would be the. That would be the trade.

[Jason]

That would be the trade.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. That's the trade you could do and.

[Jason]

I would do it. I'd rather have a buga.

[Jeremy]

So that, that's the kind of situation because you would be. You still have the concussion risks. But I mean we're. We're a year round show. We're going to be talking dynasty stuff.

[Mike]

That's the thing is you will have to take the risk, the gamble of Olave who's been producing and go get someone else who is underperforming and sit in that for.

[Jeremy]

What is wrong. What is wrong with Tampa, dude? I mean Todd Bowles is going to get fired, isn't he?

[Mike]

There wasn't.

[Jeremy]

They're supposed to be a defensive team. They can't stop anybody.

[Mike]

There was a report yesterday that said no Bowles is going to be safe, but might be time. It might. I think you have. I think we've seen the best that Bulls can put out there.

[Jeremy]

The defense is atrocious. The offense is taking a step back. Bucky Irving is not himself right now. They didn't have Tristan Worth, so I realized that. But Baker, I mean Baker's missing people.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

I'm so bummed. They were so fun.

[Mike]

Yeah. I think that that's, that's what I mean of like last year. That was, that was electric. And that wasn't enough to get it done.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. Big week for Stefan Diggs. Christian Watson keeps it going. Michael Wilson kept it going. And Wondale, who I think Jason mentioned towards the end of the week. Big weeks for those guys at tight end. Shout out to the all time leader there. Big bride ended up number one all time leader in receptions in a single season. Trey McBride, who passes Zach Ertz, who he passed on the depth chart in Arizona, and Trey McBride.

[Mike]

Dude, just the purely garbage. Touchdown. Oh, man. Hey, they still delicious garbage.

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Oh, man.

[Jeremy]

Took out another week for Trey McBride to add to the total. He's at 119 receptions.

[Jason]

100.

[Mike]

Had those stats.

[Jason]

Receptions at tight end.

[Jeremy]

He may be at 130 by the end of next year.

[Jason]

Eleven touchdowns, which is like I Mean, that is.

[Jeremy]

Tyler would never.

[Jason]

Kyler couldn't.

[Mike]

Also Jacoby. I mean, it ended up okay. It was like he kind of. He kind of pumpkin there.

[Jason]

I mean, over the last.

[Jeremy]

Oh, he really. I mean, the Cardinals were winless with Jacoby.

[Mike]

He was giving us high flying production.

[Jeremy]

And so Winston Flacco, whatever, you know, it's the same stuff.

[Jason]

Jacoby is a very, very good NFL backup. This is 10th season. Like, we know what Jacoby is and what he isn't. He's. He is fine for fantasy to come in and you know, just slinging around a lot. But yeah, he's. He's a backup.

[Jeremy]

Yep. Yeah. I mean, you. All the fun that Joe Flacco is providing. Joe Flacco is well below.500 as a starter in the last three years. These guys come in, Winston. They come in, they give us joy in our hearts and then they lose.

[Jason]

Philip Rivers has been a lot of fun. Lot of fun.

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Jason]

And no wins.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. Yep. Trey McBride, number one. Colston Loveland, number two.

[Jason]

Mr. Loveland.

[Jeremy]

And Tonjas McBasketball number three.

[Mike]

Yeah. So the. Of everything we were all going through last week, myself included, of what do we do to replace George Kittle? You're like, hey, I went with Brenton Strange. You know, it was. Do you believe in Taysom Hill? What has happened here? This. This. It was Don Just McBasketball. It was aka Brock Purdy.

[Jeremy]

It was the answer for both the Kittle and the Bowers situation because Michael Mayer ended up with 13 points, number five on the week. And that was the story. We had a big touchdown and a score for Chigaconkwo.

[Jason]

Touchdown. That was a man touchdown.

[Jeremy]

He's such a funny guy because he.

[Mike]

Lives for the end of the season.

[Jeremy]

He makes plays like that every year. And you're like, oh, he should be like a huge great tight end. And well. Joanne Johnson, 4 for 95. Jason started the week. Harold Fannin got in the end zone. Thankfully, Gadson scored again, Barner scored again, Hunter Henry scored again. And we'll take a break and we'll. We'll talk about and commiserate with some players not on Mike's team. What's going on? Foot Clan Running a business. Well, that's complicated. I mean, especially when you have to hire guys like Al Borland and Papa Josh. But there's probably about 55 programs that need also expensive. And since they come from different companies, they don't always play nice with one another. What can you do, right? Odoo. That is what Odoo has all the business software that owners need. We're talking sales, CRM, manufacturing websites, literally every kind of software and it's all on one platform. So it all works together seamlessly. I know firsthand what it's like to have everything all in one and you're not bouncing between different applications. It's quality software. You're not sacrificing. And it's just a better experience than that hodgepodge of different programs that you're using right now. And what is the most amazing part of Odoo? It's that you're not paying that premium you'd expect to be paying for it. Why spend more on software programs that are less efficient when Odoo simple software platform, can handle everything for a fraction of the price? Discover how Odoo can take your business to the next level by visiting odoo.com that's o d o o.com skipping cold and flu season is plan A. But if you do get sick, be.

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[Mike]

On top of your cold and flu symptoms.

[Jeremy]

So this cold and flu season, grab Kleenex lotion tissues.

[Mike]

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[Jeremy]

Grab Kleenex.

[Jason]

Pooped in his big boy pants.

[Jeremy]

Well, who let you down? Jared Goff and Jalen Hurts let you down.

[Mike]

Dude, that Jared Goff game, I, I can't.

[Jeremy]

Three fumbles lost, two interceptions.

[Jason]

Minnesota is a good defense, but that was not that good. Yeah, that was some bad play.

[Jeremy]

Sam Darnold ended with a pretty bad performance as well. Jalen Hurts was 13 for 27 for 110 yards. I don't know if you saw the video of. They caught Nick Sirianni coming down the tunnel at the end of the game. Did you see this? Obviously they, they stopped. I mean, they, Philly, they won. Philly said no to that two point conversion is what everyone said. And I'm like, he was wide open. Yeah. And he's just, Sirianni is a, you know, he's a loud guy and he's just like, they can't do no more talking now, blah, blah, blah. And he's doing that down the, down the tunnel. And then he, he does it kind of like to AJ Brown. If you could see the indifference on AJ Brown's face. There was no hype, there was no excitement. AJ Brown knew what really happened in that game, which was an offense that threw for 110 yards.

[Mike]

I mean, be excited in your win. Celebrate your win.

[Jeremy]

But talking about A.J. brown.

[Mike]

No, no, the coach. I'm saying be excited. You won, you beat the Bills, you stopped the two point conversion.

[Jeremy]

I'm going to say something, but don't.

[Mike]

Go out of control.

[Jeremy]

I think Papa Josh is more dignified in his victories than Nick Sirianni.

[Jason]

Wow.

[Jeremy]

Which is. I mean, look at Josh's face right now. Even Josh knows how undignified he is.

[Mike]

And I'll tell you what, when. When it's. When it's going bad for Papa Josh, he doesn't bring his kids in and use them as a shield. Oh, man.

[Jeremy]

Philly fans are not going to disagree.

[Jason]

No.

[Jeremy]

Yes.

[Mike]

They're not going to be mad. They're mad at Sirianni.

[Jeremy]

Here's a fun stat from Robert Mace. Were you going to read this?

[Jason]

I was going to bring up the stat of Sam Darnold.

[Jeremy]

Oh, no, no, let me, let me finish. The Jalen hurts stat here. Per True Media Sports, There have been 10 games this year where a team has had fewer than five passing yards and a half. Eagles have three of those games.

[Mike]

Holy crap.

[Jason]

And they.

[Jeremy]

I don't think this Eagles team, if the offense is playing like that, can make it through three rounds. I'll say that.

[Jason]

Yeah, the offense has to.

[Jeremy]

Their offense can show up.

[Jason]

Exactly.

[Jeremy]

They have the players to do it.

[Jason]

Their offense has been bad, but they still have the same. I mean, Lane Johnson is so much to this offense. They haven't had him. They get him back. All of a sudden the offense gets healthy and better at the right time. They're literally the super bowl champions.

[Mike]

Like it could. Yeah, it could happen.

[Jason]

But no, I was laughing at the amazing truth of Sam Darnold. Now joining the very elite, now five pack of quarterbacks with consecutive 313 win seasons.

[Jeremy]

These are nobodies, right? Brett Favre.

[Jason]

Tom Brady did it twice, Brett Favre did it once, Peyton Manning did it once, Aaron Rodgers and his MVP stretch. And now Sam Darnold. Yeah, this is that. That Hydra gift for sure.

[Jeremy]

If the Seahawks played Philly 10 times.

[Mike]

What'S the record splitting home?

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Jason]

I'd give the Eagles six of the ten.

[Mike]

I think that's.

[Jeremy]

I feel about the same.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. Josh Jacobs. Oh, my gosh. 4, 4, 3.

[Jason]

Off the injury report. Huh? Oops. That is a.

[Jeremy]

That is.

[Jason]

That is a fart in the pants. That's not just air.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

That was a steaming pile gamble loose. Imagine going into your title week and you're like, man, I'm Gonna. I'm gonna play Jacobs and Jameer Gibbs. I'm a flex Saquon.

[Jason]

Well, the nice thing is you. You probably did not have to play Josh Jacobs in the championship. Most people did not because of how bad he was the week before. And kick, you know, he kicked me out of the, out of the playoffs, so I didn't have to experience that. But I mean, you're talking about literally two active weeks in a row in the playoffs where you combine the games and you don't have five fantasy points combined. That's insane.

[Jeremy]

Four carries for three yards is as embarrassing as it gets. Play calling wise. I don't know how you end up there, but I guess when you don't play any defense against Derek Henry, like, it's a shame. For our entertainment as not being a Packers fan, it's a shame that the Lions blew that game.

[Mike]

Right?

[Jeremy]

Because this would be. I mean, you'd be sitting here going into the final week with a chance for the Lions to pass the packers. Jameer Gibbs. 17 for 41.

[Mike]

Brosmer is just too much.

[Jeremy]

DMX Brosmer. Yeah. To overcome Carson Palmer today is twice the quarterback. Like if you just brought him it than Max Brosmer. Saquon didn't catch a pass. Jalen Warren and Kenneth Gainwell. We were worried about the fact that, hey, if Green Bay beat Baltimore, they might let these guys rest. They let them rest anyway, to their own maybe playoff detriment.

[Mike]

They scored six points, man. Six points. And both running backs were running well. It would. I mean, 19 carries between Jaylen Warren and Kenneth Gainwell in that, that environment is unacceptable.

[Jeremy]

Michael Carter, 7 for 29.

[Mike]

Yeah, that one's.

[Jeremy]

At the end of the day, that.

[Mike]

One'S a big bummer.

[Jeremy]

Michael Carter, Tyrone Tracy, 14 for 62. That's not the end of the world.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

At wide receiver, this was, this was where people really, you know, we talked about all the different names that showed up. If you add them all together, they don't equal Derek Henry. Well, CD Lamb, Nico Collins, Amon Ra Those were. Jameson Williams. Those were all guys in that list. Tedro McMillan, 1 for 5.

[Mike]

That game was ridiculous. Let me Bryce Young's line. Do you guys know what it is?

[Jeremy]

I know he barely threw for any yards. He threw the 93 yards.

[Mike]

He threw the ball 24 times. Okay. And he completed. He completed 58% of his passes.

[Jason]

That's pretty bad.

[Mike]

54 yards.

[Jason]

54 total yards.

[Mike]

54.

[Jeremy]

Wait, that's real.

[Mike]

54 passing yards.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. Remember I was telling you how much more fun Shuck and Olavo would be in the playoffs than watching that team or Tampa Bay right now.

[Mike]

Yep.

[Jeremy]

Nico Collins unfortunately did not catch either of the long bomb touchdowns. Those went to Nolan Higgins. Yeah, he was 3 for 57. Not going to win you the week with that. Terrell McMillan. I said it. D.J. moore was sick. Had one catch. Not sick like, yo, that was sick.

[Mike]

More like, yeah, you lose illness.

[Jeremy]

Jameson Williams is 2 for 37. Part of the golf experience. Jefferson.

[Jason]

Oh, man, 4 for 30.

[Jeremy]

He literally when 4 for 30 was like, man, that's, that's pretty good with what Brosmer is doing.

[Jason]

That tells you his quarterback Justin Jefferson's fantasy points since week 10.

[Mike]

Oh, no.

[Jason]

5, 8, 6, 1, 2, 3, 11, 5. Those are, those are total fantasy points in a week.

[Jeremy]

I mean that like if you started like Ryan Flournoy or Isaac Tislaw or Jalen Coker, you were better off is what you're saying.

[Jason]

Yeah, I mean, Justin Jefferson, I don't understand how you can be as good as he is, perhaps the best wide receiver in the entire National Football League and have a run of that much irrelevance while healthy. I know your quarterback was a backup and then a backup to the backup. That doesn't matter. Like, I feel like if one of the three of us were playing quarterback, we could at least try to get him the ball a little bit more.

[Jeremy]

The first two games after Burrow went down, Jamar Chase scored six points and four points with.

[Mike]

Yeah, that was.

[Jeremy]

Who was the pre Flacco backup?

[Mike]

Browning.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, Jake Browning.

[Mike]

Like this. That. And that was, you know, when that was going on. It's like, how does this possibly get fixed? And then some, some miracle is Joe Flacco shows up and fixes it enough that Joe Burrow can come back. But like the fix is will JJ. JJ McCarthy is going to be their guy next year. Will he be able to be good enough?

[Jason]

Man, I don't know.

[Mike]

To get Justin Jefferson meet. That week 16. That was, that was Jefferson or that was McCarthy and the last couple of weeks his injury, the timing of the injury sucks so much.

[Jeremy]

Well, it's Magic Mike. You were facing Jefferson.

[Mike]

Well, I apologize for that because I want J.J. mcCarthy and the Vikings to be good. I mean, the timing was awful.

[Jason]

Since week 10, Drake London basically has as many points as Justin Jefferson. He's played three games to Justin Jefferson's eight. I mean, John Mechi has more fantasy points than Justin Jefferson.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. Where does that, where does that take him in the draft?

[Jason]

He can't be a first rounder. Right.

[Jeremy]

I mean, I mean, I think.

[Jason]

But the name. I mean bypass Justin Jefferson is going to be hard in your draft, snitch.

[Jeremy]

And it might, might be to your own peril for sure.

[Jason]

I mean obviously there's, there's no one in the world who's going to say that Justin Jefferson is not a great wide receiver.

[Jeremy]

Let's have a conversation about another player that I want to know if you think he's a great wide receiver. Last year he played 69% of the snaps.

[Jason]

Nice.

[Jeremy]

He had 1100 receiving yards average 12.5 fantasy points per game. This year he's playing 78% of the snaps, has 789 receiving yards and averages 9 fancy points per game. Do you know what I'm talking about?

[Jason]

You're talking about my little lady.

[Jeremy]

Talking about your little Lad. He is little right now. 66 for 789 is not what you hope for. He's still, I mean he's got six touchdowns. He had seven last year. So it's not like that's the differentiator in the fantasy points per game. Yeah, they have two targets, one for 31.

[Jason]

They have other places to go with the ball now with Keenan Allen there. They're, they're great. Rookie selection of pass catchers including Gadsden, Trey Harris. They've, they've got.

[Mike]

Huge is the biggest one.

[Jason]

Right. And huge.

[Mike]

Huge was huge was gone. He had disappeared. He would not factor in this offense. And then it all came together.

[Jason]

Yeah. So I mean I don't think Lad is any worse or has taken a step back. It's just he is the type of player where he's not the dominant alpha one for a team. He's a great possession wide receiver when needed. He's not always needed. He's certainly not needed as much as he was last year. And so I think we discussed this during the draft season. I was pretty low on McConkey for where he was being drafted just because there's a lot of ways that he could not have the same market share.

[Jeremy]

What is Brian Thomas? 4 for 39 in this game. Brian Thomas, just to give you the same thing I just did for McConkey. 14.1 fantasy points per game last year, 1200 yards, 87 and 10 this year. 8.3 fantasy points per game, 45 for 658 and 2. I mean BTJ was drafted ahead of McConkey. Both were drafted very high. And the dynasty forecast for btj. I mean.

[Mike]

I think you can still have some optimism but the long term.

[Jeremy]

Deal For Jacoby Myers and the addition of Travis Hunter is not even playing right now. I mean Parker Washington was great. Again, we didn't talk about him. He was, we should have. He was. Yeah, he was outstanding. His after the catch is what makes him special.

[Mike]

Yeah. I thought last week was just certain on Brian Thomas Jr. And but Parker watched him.

[Jeremy]

I really wonder if he's going to be gone, man. I really do. Parker. Yeah. Because I just look at.

[Mike]

Is he a free age?

[Jason]

No, no, no, no.

[Jeremy]

Parker, no, I'm sorry.

[Mike]

Oh, Brian Thomas, ttj.

[Jeremy]

Like I just strange. Myers, Hunter, Parker. That's. That's four names that they've used a lot and they're. They're a 131 team, right. 121 team.

[Jason]

He's a. On a rookie contract and so unless they are desiring to trade him, I think he is really a perfect fit for this team in the sense that he doesn't. I mean right now he's not an alpha, but he's like, even if he's their wide receiver 3. Oh, I'm sure he's not happy.

[Jeremy]

That's all I'm saying.

[Jason]

But the team has to be to have him as your like wide receiver.

[Jeremy]

Three I just, it doesn't add up to me. The math doesn't check out to me of him staying there. A 1400 yard receiver that you're not going to give anything close to that work. Those, those things don't last.

[Jason]

Yeah. I hope he's traded. I really do.

[Jeremy]

Buffalo is calling Brian Thomas Jr. Pick up the phone. And limping into the. Limping into the final week of the year, Taysom Hill did nothing.

[Jason]

Oh my gosh.

[Jeremy]

We started getting out on Hill probably Friday. I put a few tweets out there, people asking questions about Taysom Hill or any other. Or any other name. I'd kind of give you two or three names that didn't include Hill because we found out that he was just saying goodbye.

[Jason]

Yeah, Mike, Mike had tweeted at Underhill. Yeah. And to get information because we, you know, I was pretty high on Taysom Hill when we were recording the shows last week. But then after that we got the information on X from Underhill that there was a press conference basically talking about getting him involved for his last home game at the Superdome. And so we. So hopefully you're following us on X.

[Mike]

Yeah, I brought it up again on Sunday Live too.

[Jason]

Yeah, we did start pivoting and going away from Taysom Hill, thankfully because he ended up with zero targets and zero rushing yards after being like a third offense the week prior.

[Jeremy]

Travis Kelsey's 5 to 36, maybe his last game ever. Next week for Kansas City. And that was Studs and Duds presented by Lowe's. Lowe's nose. Sundays are for NFL football. Earn your Sunday with Lowe's official partner of the NFL. We're going to talk through some NFL playoff scenarios, team motivation levels. Mailbag. Wednesday this week, which is New Year's Eve, we're going to do kind of a Megalodon a Week 18 Megalodon, with all the Week 18 matchups, the Wheel of Shame start to the week and no show on Thursday and Friday, this week, New Year's Day and the day after. So a big week for you, week 18 weirdos, which is the official term, right? Week 18 weirdos. We're still here for you.

[Mike]

We love you. We're being weird with you, but we're going to complain.

[Jeremy]

But this is the week where I really relate to early 1900s coal miners. That's all. Yeah, I get that they had it tough. We have it as tough as them.

[Mike]

Tougher.

[Jeremy]

Tougher than them doing the heavy lifting of week 18.

[Mike]

Like black lung, carpal tunnel.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. Like they kind of pretty much into a void. And I feel like we might be talking into a void.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

With week 18. So it's very, very similar. But they had the canaries, which are like cool little birds, and we don't have that.

[Jason]

We don't have any mascot or pet.

[Mike]

Around here that we can sacrifice.

[Jason]

Yeah, I guess they did do that with the Canaries, right?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

Oh, my goodness.

[Jason]

You go die.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, they were sacrificial canaries, but that's what we got on the docket. One more reminder for you. If you need a championship shirt, buy them before Mike buys them out. Shopballers.com and if you need trophies, rings, belts, things to bring to your draft next year and get your brag on.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

Then go to fantasychamps.com use the code ballers. That will be it for today. Those of you that are still having championships on the line, good luck to Not Night and Monday Night Football.

[Mike]

Goodbye.

[Jason]

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