Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary Episode: Fantasy Football 2017 - Confusing Players, Andy’s Apology, Pre. Week 3
Release Date: August 30, 2017
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

Introduction

In this episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright delve into the complexities of preseason Week 3, addressing confusing player rankings, significant news updates, and providing in-depth analysis of key NFL matchups. The episode also features an apology segment where Jason Moore addresses previous disagreements with Mike Wright regarding player evaluations.

Confusing Player Rankings (Quick Question Segment)

The episode kicks off with the "Quick Question" segment, where each host identifies a player who has been challenging to rank for the 2017 fantasy football season.

• Mike Wright:
  "I'm going to jump in here. It's Brandon Cooks. Because honestly, we got to do your. Cooking by the book." [03:19]

  Mike expresses uncertainty about Brandon Cooks' consistency, highlighting his potential to both disappoint and excel, which complicates his ranking.

• Jason Moore:
  "Mine's Mike Gillislee of the New England Patriots." [04:23]

  Jason discusses his dilemma with Mike Gillislee, uncertain whether to invest in him given the ambiguous running back rotation.

• Andy Holloway:
  "I think the most difficult guy to rank is Ezekiel Elliott..." [04:48]

  Andy focuses on Ezekiel Elliott, emphasizing the challenges in drafting him due to his league-dependent value and the uncertainty surrounding his suspension appeal.

News and Updates

Ezekiel Elliott’s Suspension

Jason Moore provides a comprehensive update on Ezekiel Elliott's legal troubles and potential impact on the season.

• Jason Moore:
  "The NFL is reviewing an appeal from Ezekiel Elliott. His suspension is scheduled to start on September 2nd..." [10:05]

  He outlines the timeline and possibilities, including the slim chance of an injunction allowing Elliott to play in Week 1.

• Andy Holloway:
  "Is it possible that it could be like Brady and it could be pushed all the way through the next offseason..." [12:39]

  Andy speculates on the long-term implications if Elliott's suspension is extended, though he considers it highly unlikely.

Vance McDonald Acquired by Steelers

The hosts discuss the trade of Vance McDonald to the Steelers, analyzing its impact.

• Andy Holloway:
  "And Jay Grizz, great show. We have some surprises in store, some giveaways." [13:12]

  He critiques the trade, expressing skepticism about the tight ends available to the Steelers following McDonald's acquisition.

Josh Docks Injury Concerns

Jason Moore addresses concerns over Josh Docks' ongoing injuries affecting the Redskins.

• Jason Moore:
  "Redskins coach Jay Gruden admitted that Josh Docks' continued missed time is a concern..." [14:11]

  He highlights the long-term implications for Docks' career and his fantasy value.

Devonta Freeman Cleared of Concussion Protocol

Good news is shared about Devonta Freeman, enhancing his availability for the Falcons.

• Jason Moore:
  "Good news, everybody. Devonta Freeman has cleared the concussion protocol." [15:25]

Preseason Week 3 Game Reviews

The hosts provide detailed analyses of several key preseason matchups, assessing their implications for fantasy football rankings.

Miami vs. Philadelphia

• Andy Holloway:
  "Devonte Parker's upside is tremendous. You guys are with me on that 100%." [16:46]

  Andy praises Devonte Parker's performance and potential as a top-tier fantasy wide receiver.

• Mike Wright:
  "Devonte Parker is a very athletic man. If he just needs a quarterback that's going to give him a chance..." [16:46]

  Mike agrees on Parker's athleticism and the importance of quarterback chemistry.

Chargers vs. Rams

• Andy Holloway:
  "Chargers looked... the Rams looked... Jared Goff was worse than bad." [25:13]

  Andy critiques Jared Goff's performance but notes improvements when Todd Gurley is utilized.

• Mike Wright:
  "Melvin Gordon looked great. I mean, he looked fast. He looked like his vision was good." [28:19]

  Mike highlights Melvin Gordon's promising display, suggesting him as a valuable fantasy asset.

• Jason Moore:
  "Jarvis Landry is being treated like someone nobody wants to touch. And that's foolish." [19:37]

  Jason advocates for Jarvis Landry's value despite his drop in draft positions.

Panthers vs. Jaguars

• Jason Moore:
  "Jonathan Stewart was great in this. He broke off a couple of huge runs." [29:52]

  Jason emphasizes Jonathan Stewart's reliable performance, recommending him as a late-round pick.

• Mike Wright:
  "Hold off on drafting any backup running back for Le'Veon Bell because you're going to get it wrong." [37:00]

  Mike advises caution in drafting backup running backs, citing unpredictable usage.

Jets vs. Giants

• Jason Moore:
  "Alan Robinson in the fifth. That's worth taking a step." [31:55]

  Jason discusses Alan Robinson's unexpected drop and potential undervaluation in drafts.

• Mike Wright:
  "Ted Ginn is going to be involved. He's going to score long touchdowns." [43:40]

  Mike recommends drafting Ted Ginn as a sleeper pick due to his emerging role.

Bears vs. Titans

• Andy Holloway:
  "Kendall Wright looked good... Tyreek Cohen wasn't used." [53:02]

  Andy notes Kendall Wright's potential and observes limited usage for Tyreek Cohen, recommending his late-round flyer.

• Jason Moore:
  "I think it's possible that their defense is going to be good." [42:50]

  Jason emphasizes the strength of the Saints' defense, urging fantasy owners to consider defensive matchups.

Player Rankings and Draft Advice

The hosts provide strategic advice on player selections, focusing on sleepers, undervalued players, and those with fluctuating drafts.

• Devonte Parker:
  "You can come see Brooks... Devonte Parker is becoming draftable." [17:17]

  Both hosts agree on Parker's high upside, positioning him as a valuable mid-round asset.

• Jarvis Landry:
  "Jarvis Landry is being treated like someone nobody wants to touch... He's becoming draftable for me for the first." [19:37]

  Despite a drop in ADP, Jarvis Landry remains a consistent performer deserving of higher draft consideration.

• Frank Gore vs. Paul Perkins:
  Andy Holloway: "I would much rather have Frank Gore." [36:38]
  Mike Wright: "I'll take Gore." [36:40]

  The consensus is to prefer Frank Gore over Paul Perkins due to Gore's proven reliability.

• Alan Robinson:
  Jason Moore: "Alan Robinson in the fifth. That's worth taking a step." [31:55]

  Alan Robinson's significant drop makes him an attractive fifth-round pick for his potential resurgence.

• Ted Ginn:
  Mike Wright: "Ted Ginn is going to be involved. He's going to score long touchdowns." [43:40]

  Ted Ginn is recommended as a sleeper pick with high upside due to his active role in the Saints' offense.

Apology Segment

A heartfelt moment unfolds as Jason Moore extends an apology to Mike Wright for previously doubting several players.

• Jason Moore:
  "I just wanted to... I'm sorry about Carlos Hyde... I'm sorry about Ty Montgomery..." [07:05]

  He apologizes for underestimating players like Carlos Hyde, Ty Montgomery, Amir Abdullah, Golden Tate, Keenan Allen, and Kyle Juszczyk, acknowledging their potential and performance.

• Mike Wright:
  "That's fair." [07:35]

  Mike accepts the apology graciously, fostering a collaborative and respectful atmosphere among the hosts.

Conclusion

As the episode wraps up, the hosts emphasize the importance of community engagement through live shows and online platforms. They encourage listeners to join their fantasy football community at jointhefoot.com and participate in upcoming live events. The episode concludes with reminders about suspension offers and upcoming content, ensuring listeners are well-equipped for the approaching fantasy football season.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Jason Moore on Ezekiel Elliott's Situation:
  "If for some reason he essentially cannot rule in that amount of time, Ezekiel Elliott has the option to try to seek an injunction..." [10:05]

• Andy Holloway on Devonte Parker:
  "Devonte Parker's upside is tremendous. You guys are with me on that 100%." [16:46]

• Jason Moore’s Apology:
  "I'm sorry about Carlos Hyde... I'm sorry about Keenan Allen." [07:05]

• Jason Moore on Jarvis Landry:
  "Jarvis Landry is being treated like someone nobody wants to touch. And that's foolish." [19:37]

• Mike Wright on Ted Ginn:
  "Ted Ginn is going to be involved. He's going to score long touchdowns." [43:40]

This comprehensive summary captures the critical discussions, player evaluations, and strategic insights provided by the Fantasy Footballers trio in the August 30, 2017 episode. Whether you're a seasoned fantasy manager or new to the game, this episode offers valuable information to optimize your team for the upcoming season.