Fantasy Football 2017 - MEGALODON Episode – Week 12 Matchups, Starts & More!

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary
Episode: Fantasy Football 2017 - MEGALODON Episode – Week 12 Matchups, Starts & More!
Release Date: November 22, 2017

The Fantasy Footballers dive deep into Week 12 of the 2017 NFL season in their special MEGALODON episode. Hosted by Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright, the trio provides expert analysis, strategic advice, and entertaining banter to help fantasy football enthusiasts dominate their leagues.

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1. Turkey Day Awards

The episode kicks off with the Turkey Day Awards, a segment celebrating standout players with creative accolades.

• Overdone Turducken:
  An award symbolizing a high-cost player who doesn't deliver as expected.

  • Mike Wright (04:07): "It has to be David Johnson."
  • Ultimately, the award goes to Terrell Pryor for overusing the injured reserve (04:55).

• Other Aunt Brings Dressing and Stuffing:
  Recognizes a player whose performance is inconsistent, much like unpredictable Thanksgiving side dishes.

  • Jason Moore (05:15): The award is bestowed upon Amari Cooper, highlighting his mixed performances (06:08).

• Sweet Potato Casserole:
  Honors a player who starts strong but falters mid-game.

  • Andy Holloway (07:08): Surprises with Kareem Hunt for his initial promise but recent underperformance.

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2. Pump the Brakes

This segment advises fantasy managers to temper their expectations for certain high-performing players due to upcoming challenges or declining performance.

• Players Pumped Down:

  • Amir Abdullah (09:06): Despite recent touchdowns, a reduced snap count and tough matchup against the Vikings make him a cautionary pick.
    • Mike Wright (09:06): "Namir Abdullah, honestly, I still believe in the talent."
  • Keenan Allen (10:36): After a stellar week, inconsistent performances in difficult matchups lead to a recommendation to lower expectations.
    • Jason Moore (11:04): "I'm pumping the brakes on Keenan Allen."

• Self-Reflection Pump the Brakes:

  • Alex Collins (11:51): Andy Holloway suggests managing expectations for Collins against a formidable Houston Texans defense, emphasizing strategic flexibility.

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3. News and Notes

Updates on player movements, injuries, and team strategies affect fantasy lineups.

• Andre Ellington claimed by the Texans, expected to provide depth (14:32).
• Tyrod Taylor named starting QB for the Buffalo Bills, signaling trust in his abilities over the previous less reliable option (15:06).
• Paxton Lynch to start for the Denver Broncos against the Raiders, with backup Trevor Siemian also in consideration (16:24).

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4. Start Recommendations

Comprehensive advice on which players to start based on matchups, performance trends, and injury reports.

• Quarterbacks:

  • Jason Moore (69:55): Recommends Cam Newton for his rushing prowess.
  • Andy Holloway (71:14): Advocates for Kirk Cousins after his recent surge in performance.
  • Mike Wright (60:56): Favors Matthew Stafford against a struggling Saints defense.

• Running Backs:

  • Mike Wright (73:21): Selects Dion Lewis for his workload against the Dolphins.
  • Andy Holloway (75:15): Chooses Samaj P. Ryan, emphasizing his role despite tough defenses.

• Wide Receivers:

  • Jason Moore (75:43): Picks Jameson Crowder as a beneficiary of the Giants' defensive struggles.
  • Andy Holloway (80:49): Recommends Devonte Adams for his target volume despite facing a strong Ravens defense.

• Tight Ends:

  • Jason Moore (79:19): Goes with Jared Cook against a poor tight end defense.
  • Mike Wright (80:24): Chooses Vernon Davis for his matchup against the Giants.

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5. Fantasy Forecast

The hosts analyze upcoming matchups, projecting player performances and offering strategic insights.

• Vikings vs. Lions (Week 12):

  • Jason Moore (29:18): Prefers Jerick McKinnon over Latavius Murray due to recent snap counts.
  • Andy Holloway (29:57): Leans towards Latavius Murray for his goal-line involvement.

• Buccaneers vs. Falcons:

  • Jason Moore (45:33): Advises caution, suggesting limited play options besides Mike Evans.
  • Andy Holloway (47:52): Selects Mohammed Sanu and Julio Jones against Tampa's weak WR defense.

• Browns vs. Bengals:

  • Mike Wright (50:00): Starts Joe Mixon for his guaranteed touches.
  • Jason Moore (52:24): Confirms Derek Henry won't be a reliable option.

• Patriots vs. Dolphins:

  • Jason Moore (60:48): Endorses Dion Lewis for his role in a high-demand rushing offense.
  • Andy Holloway (64:48): Suggests Tyler Hilton despite mixed performances.

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6. Special Segments and Promotions

The hosts engage listeners with interactive segments and promotional offers.

• DFS Pass Promotion:

  • Jason Moore (66:09): Announces a special deal for a DFS Pass at dfspass.com using code DFS10, offering exclusive content for just $10.

• Contest Giveaway:

  • Jason Moore (123:29): Introduces a contest to win a $100 gift card by using the hashtag #megastuff17 on Twitter.

• Customized Jerseys:

  • Jason Moore (27:08): Promotes fantasychamps.com for custom fantasy football jerseys, offering free US shipping with code Champs Free.

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7. Listener Interaction and Bants

Throughout the episode, the hosts maintain a lively rapport, sharing humorous exchanges and addressing listener questions.

• White Chocolate Oreos Debate:

  • Andy Holloway (124:07): Defends the superiority of white chocolate-covered Oreos, leading to playful arguments.
  • Mike Wright (124:16): Contrarily criticizes them as overly sweet and unappealing.

• Mailbag Segment:

  • Jason Moore (39:34): Responds to listener queries about player starts, demonstrating personalized advice.

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Notable Quotes:

• Andy Holloway (02:23): "We got a Megalodon show. This has been a crazy morning and that won't even come close to the craziness of this show."
• Jason Moore (09:09): "We got to pump the brakes on the Abdullah Express."
• Mike Wright (73:21): "I'm going to go with Dion Lewis against Miami. He's a must start this week."
• Andy Holloway (121:27): "You're starting Kirk Cousins. I think he's going to be great at home."

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Conclusion

The MEGALODON episode offers a thorough analysis of Week 12 matchups, strategic player starts, and valuable fantasy football insights. With segments like Turkey Day Awards and Pump the Brakes, the hosts equip listeners with the knowledge to optimize their lineups. Additionally, interactive promotions and engaging banter make this episode both informative and entertaining for fantasy football enthusiasts.

For more detailed rankings and strategies, listeners are encouraged to visit FantasyFootballers.com and join the community at JoinTheFoot.com.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Megalodon. Megalodon. Ah.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh.

[Jason Moore]

For the Megalodon.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from the Play Draft Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Where we're going, the vocal range doesn't even exist.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Megalodon.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man, this morning we got sick kids, we got broken legs, we got sick wives. Ain't nothing getting in the way of this show.

[Jason Moore]

No, we had a Megala morning for all of us. Drama dad. Drama dad life.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Jason thought his daughter broke her leg this morning. Happy to report she did not.

[Andy Holloway]

She did not. But I mean, it didn't even matter.

[Jason Moore]

Even if she did.

[Andy Holloway]

You said get out back. Go deal with it. We got a Megalodon show.

[Mike Wright]

Put some dirt on it.

[Andy Holloway]

Rub some dirt on. No, of course not. But yeah, this has been a crazy morning and that won't even come close to the craziness of this show that we're bringing right now.

[Jason Moore]

This is the Megalodon episode. Your extra special, extra long, jam packed Thanksgiving Day celebration. We've got every matchup on the show today. We got starts of the week. We got pump the breaks. We got some Turkey Day Awards. We got a special little something later in the show. It's going to be.

[Mike Wright]

It's all special.

[Jason Moore]

Incredible. I think they want to hear your Megalodon again.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh. Mega. Mega.

[Mike Wright]

Mega Megalodon.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

I want to start out with a very special Megalodon, a very special segment here we have a. An article being released today. The Turkey Day Awards. That was okay. That wasn't bad.

[Andy Holloway]

I liked it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I liked it. Turkey Day Awards. It's on the website from Kyle, our editor.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, the Borgoggan. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So Kyle wrote this article. Here's the Thing we have not read these three awards, and I want to read the description of these, and I want you guys to come up with who fits these Turkey Day awards. Okay? The first award, it's an overdone turducken. A fat, overdone duck cooked in a chicken, stuffed in a turkey. You paid a ton of money for this fat blend of a bird, but you just can't eat it. Instead, you just have to look at it and wonder what could have been. Who's that?

[Mike Wright]

There's only one answer for this.

[Jason Moore]

Who do you think that is?

[Andy Holloway]

That's David Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it is.

[Mike Wright]

It has to be David Johnson. Even if maybe the Borgogan gave the award to someone else, but my. My overdone turducken would go to David Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

I. You know, usually that makes complete sense, right? Burned you. You can't eat it. It was so expensive. It's delicious. You're right. It is David Johnson. But there's plenty of. I'm taking. I'm taking the injury out. So if you're talking non injured guys, that's fair.

[Jason Moore]

I'll give you a hint.

[Andy Holloway]

It is non injury related. Well, that's fair. I'm going DeMarco Murray. He was also that first round type of cost. And he has burned you several times this year.

[Jason Moore]

You know what the answer is?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, who do you.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't. Who did he give it to?

[Jason Moore]

Terrell Pryor.

[Andy Holloway]

The overdose on the IR for injury.

[Mike Wright]

Now y'all get stuck in the mud dumpster fire.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fair.

[Mike Wright]

That's fair.

[Jason Moore]

Terrell Pryor is the overdone turducken. The other ants, dressing and stuffing. Uh, oh, that's. That's his next award. You never really know what it's gonna be like. So this is the other aunt who brings the dressing and the stuffing.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, we all have that ant.

[Jason Moore]

It could blow your socks off and have everyone at the table ranting and raving. Or it could make your stomach so upset, you will feel the effects for days.

[Andy Holloway]

Ooh, Ooh. I feel like the easy pickings here would be Amari Cooper. It can be delicious, but most of the time, vomit.

[Mike Wright]

And like Thanksgiving, it comes once a year.

[Andy Holloway]

But I'm gonna go Tyreek Hill. Cause he's so cool.

[Mike Wright]

That was my answer.

[Andy Holloway]

Golden Pop back and forth.

[Jason Moore]

I'm gonna go with Golden Tate.

[Andy Holloway]

Clippity club, ping pong.

[Jason Moore]

Golden Tate been a little bit like that this year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's been mostly good, though. All right, well, yeah, I'm with Jason. I would Go with Tyreek Hill for the other aunts dress.

[Jason Moore]

The answer from editor Kyle. Oh, Amari Cooper. I like Mike's point, though. I think that means the other aunts dressing and stuffing is. It makes you sick most of the time.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

All right. The sweet potato casserole. All right. This is a heavy, hearty and delicious food.

[Andy Holloway]

Incorrect.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, for those first few bites. But you can only have so much before it makes you sick. So the first few bites. But now it makes you sick.

[Andy Holloway]

So the first few bites, you. You didn't actually get any on the spoon. And I was like, this is fine.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And you get that Sweet potato.

[Mike Wright]

Kyle's sweet potato casserole.

[Jason Moore]

Just substitute whatever food is very heavy, feels good. And then you have potatoes.

[Mike Wright]

We'll go cheesy potatoes. How about that, Jay?

[Andy Holloway]

All right, that's fair.

[Jason Moore]

Surprised you didn't go wedges from Jack in the Box.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's later.

[Jason Moore]

Heavy, hearty. Delicious for the first few bites, but then it makes you sick. Who do we have that was delicious to start the year and now you're just. You get nothing. Can't eat anymore. Not even if you wanted to.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, see, here's the thing. The first guy that comes to mind. I'm still going to eat. Yeah. I'm going to keep at it. It's Kareem Hunt.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, no, I know the answer to this one.

[Andy Holloway]

You wait like you actually know or.

[Jason Moore]

I actually know the answer to this one. And who started? It's not Cream Hunt. We're talking about somebody that is droppable now, but delicious.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, Jordy Nelson.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's a good one. But no, dang it.

[Andy Holloway]

That was a great. That was a great answer.

[Jason Moore]

Who was one of your favorite first couple weeks?

[Andy Holloway]

You were Martavis.

[Jason Moore]

You were cruising along Stefan Diggs. Mike Gillesley.

[Mike Wright]

You can't drop Diggs, but yeah, you can drop Mike Gillis.

[Jason Moore]

I know.

[Mike Wright]

Pour one out. Pour one out for Turkey Day. And there's far more available.

[Jason Moore]

There are. There are. You can find them on the website the fancy footballers.com. make sure you connect with us at the. At our website, the fancyfootballers.com and on TwitterFFballers. You can follow each of us. You can follow the show. You can take a look at these sweet, fancy champs jerseys on YouTube. We're wearing ours today. I'm wearing my fantasy reapers custom jersey.

[Andy Holloway]

Got my Stairway to Evans on.

[Mike Wright]

And of course, deck to the future.

[Jason Moore]

Very nice.

[Mike Wright]

Because where we're going, we don't need.

[Jason Moore]

Roads, but you do need a left. Tackle.

[Mike Wright]

Where we're going, we need.

[Andy Holloway]

We very much need left tackles.

[Jason Moore]

So it is Wednesday, which means.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, oh, oh. O'Reilly, O'Reilly Auto Parts.

[Jason Moore]

Ow.

[Andy Holloway]

It's like you got scared. I had to take it to another level. This is a Megalodon show.

[Jason Moore]

It's very creepy. Pump the brakes with O'Reilly Auto Parts. Each week we. We pump the brakes on somebody that had a big performance. Tell you, be careful about your expectations in the coming week. We've got obviously three games on Thanksgiving this week, and we've got a busy Sunday, Monday, important weeks for your fantasy football team. We want to get you ready. We want to get you right. And we're pumping the brakes. But who are we pumping the brakes on? Mike, you got a sad face next to your guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Ding, ding.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no.

[Mike Wright]

We got to pump the brakes on the Abdullah Express. We cannot give him the full foghorn there. And I know he's got a couple touchdowns the last couple weeks. Namir Abdullah, honestly, I still believe in the talent. I still believe in the player. But if you look at the fantasy scores over the last couple weeks, you're not bad, right? You're getting. Oh, well, I got an RB2 here. But here's the deal. Last week he dropped. Dropped back down to 46% of the snaps after his season high 60% two weeks ago when he actually had a pretty solid game. Now he's going to take on the Minnesota Vikings. I would prefer to avoid that situation if at all possible. So just a message out there to the people who are just, you're just cruising the box score. You just are not even the box score. You're cruising the fantasy points in total, saying, hey, double digits.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's.

[Mike Wright]

Let's fire up the Abdullah Express. It's sad for me, but I must.

[Jason Moore]

Say, I. Yeah, and I don't believe in the talent. Not as a feature back. I think he could be a very great third down weapon guy. Get him in space. But he gets arm tackled too easily, in my opinion. And that's. It's a fair problem.

[Andy Holloway]

I've always wondered, like, since he's been in the league, Theo Riddick has been there and he's already got that role. But if it almost feels like if Riddick wasn't there, Abdullah could go into a role that fits kind of what he excels at more. And I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to continue the pain for Mike because I know Amir Abdullah was this guy.

[Mike Wright]

You're doing me dirty.

[Jason Moore]

I'm pumping the brakes on Keenan Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, careful.

[Jason Moore]

I'm foolish.

[Andy Holloway]

Careful. I remember when I pumped the brakes on Deshaun Watson.

[Jason Moore]

Look, I know that Keenan Allen had a monstrous, otherworldly week, but he has stunk in great matchups this year. When he played Oakland, the Giants, New England, Kansas City, he didn't have good weeks. And this was a unique situation last week, and it was called Nathan Peterman, who's still throwing interceptions.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you see he was named the AFC Defensive Player of the Week?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Someone. Someone tagged. Someone tagged us with a meme on.

[Jason Moore]

I was gonna give you a lot of credit if that was an original.

[Andy Holloway]

It was not. I give credit to someone I don't remember.

[Jason Moore]

Look, pumping the brakes isn't about throwing a guy away. Pumping the brakes is about having fair expectations. Unfortunately, I'm pumping them on Keenan Allen. That was week 11. The previous 10 weeks did not make me think this was coming. And they had short fields and.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Nathan Peterman. So I'm gonna go Keenan Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

I get that. I would just.

[Jason Moore]

Haven't scored since week one.

[Andy Holloway]

No, absolutely. I would just put the disclaimer out. This pump the brakes is not accepted by the entirety of the fantasy football community.

[Jason Moore]

It's fair.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. My. Pump the brakes. I'm pumping. This is like a self, you know? A self. I'm looking in the mirror saying, yeah, you are. Jason, I know you like this guy. I know you've been talking him up, and you say he's really good, and he's a starter. His role is secure, and I believe all those things. But I got to pump the brakes. Don't do it this week with Alex Collins. I really, really like what I've seen out of Alex Collins this last week. He had a great week. He, you know, I mean, you've got a guy here who got 20 carries, got a touchdown last week. He's got the volume. And that was with Danny Woodhead back. Okay, so the Baltimore Ravens rushing game isn't the best, but it's clearly become. Alex Collins is that lead first, second down, you know, on the ground runner. Here's the problem. He's going up against the number one most difficult matchup for on the ground runners. Number one most difficult for on the ground runners, as opposed to the running back position. Catching passes out of the back.

[Jason Moore]

They're all on the ground, bro.

[Andy Holloway]

Danny Woodhead. He's on the ground. Danny Woodhead. Well, okay, I'm not saying he flies.

[Mike Wright]

Danny Woodhead levitates, but.

[Jason Moore]

Which is a very fun expression.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

That's ruining your.

[Andy Holloway]

I would rather Play Danny Woodhead than Alex Collins. Because when you try to rush up the middle or get the edge on the Houston Texans between the tackle. Yeah, sure, tomato, potato.

[Mike Wright]

To be fair, if you could just.

[Andy Holloway]

Fly, I mean, you would, you'd be really.

[Mike Wright]

You would never be tacky.

[Andy Holloway]

You'd be the one on one and less injury risk unless you fly too fast or to the sun. Oh, but getting back to my point here, if you remember the Houston Texans week one. Week one was when, you know the birth of Leonard Fournette in the NFL where he went, you know, you've got 142 rushing yards and a touchdown given up. That was the last rushing touchdown that the Houston Texans gave up in Week 1. Since that time, they have given up zero touchdowns and only one other game since then where they've given up 100 rushing yards as a, you know, to a team, not to a running back. So I think, look, Alex Collins, he's impressed me for who he is.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, but he's limited.

[Andy Holloway]

But he's limited. The Baltimore Ravens aren't this great rushing offense.

[Jason Moore]

Are you expecting Danny Woodhead then to have a good week?

[Andy Holloway]

I think he is a. No, I don't.

[Jason Moore]

Would you start him over Alex Collins?

[Andy Holloway]

I would start him over Alex Collins, but I'm not excited about either.

[Jason Moore]

Keenan Allen, Alex Collins, Amir Abdullah, those were the pump the brakes this week. And that was pump the brakes with O'Reilly Auto Parts. Better parts, better prices every single day. Let's talk news, boys.

[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Andre Ellington was claimed by the Texans who just lost Deontiforman. I expect Ellington if healthy to get a lot of work.

[Mike Wright]

I would say not a lot of work, but it makes sense that they needed some depth.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, if you do look at the amount of carries that Deonta Foreman got, you know, Alfred Blue last year got over 100 rushing attempts. I think that he will get a little bit of work. It scares me though that he has the pass catching ability because Lamont. Because Deontiforman didn't. And so Lamar Miller was safe in that role. I worry if he starts encroaching on that, it might actually hurt.

[Jason Moore]

They just need more weapons. I mean, they lost Will Fuller, now they lost Deontiforman. Hey, guys. Sanity restored. Sanity restored. Tyrod Taylor starting at quarterback for the Buffalo Bills. What? Congratulations, Tyrod. You have earned the starting job.

[Andy Holloway]

I knew you could do it, McDermott. I knew you could make the right call. That's why I made.

[Jason Moore]

No, he said it's right for the team. That's what his comment I'm giving.

[Andy Holloway]

And then all the reporters went, doy.

[Mike Wright]

I'm giving him zero credit. Well, McDermott, yeah, no, no. You don't get to make an idiot's decision and then undo it and then be like, oh, no, we're going to do the right thing for the team. The right thing for the team was to never have done that in the first place. So you don't get out.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, but you're a buffoon.

[Jason Moore]

You could also have kept digging the hole.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, exactly. It was. It was a mistake for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to trade up into the second round draft kicker, but it was good to move on and cut your losses early. Sometimes you have to make those decisions after bad ones, and I give credit for that.

[Jason Moore]

The Vikings confirmed Case Kingdom is going to start on Thursday. We expected it. He will be starting. The Broncos are going to start Paxton lynch In Week 12 against the Raiders, which, I mean, you're giving him a chance to succeed against the Raiders and he is.

[Mike Wright]

We've also heard that Trevor Simeon will be the backup.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. So now Brock has gone top to bottom.

[Mike Wright]

So there has also been just ridiculousness happening there for the Denver Broncos decisions.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, what they do in the first practice of the week, they put two chairs out and then they push play on a boombox and the guys walk around them and then as soon as they hit, stop. I mean, this is what I've heard.

[Jason Moore]

No, this is fact.

[Andy Holloway]

The two guys have to get in the chairs. There's a first chair and a second chair and then the third guy's out. Brock was slow this week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I thought it was. And then one into the underneath has the envelope.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you're starting. You're the starter.

[Jason Moore]

It's not good. It's not good.

[Andy Holloway]

In Denver, you have a new offensive coordinator against a new defensive coordinator in this matchup. Yeah, there you go.

[Jason Moore]

And you have. Yeah, exactly. New defensive coordinator for the Raiders who haven't picked a pass off. I bet you Paxton lynch can change that. So look, fantasy wise, let's talk about both of those quarterbacks starting Tyrod and Paxton Lynch. For Tyrod, it means an endorsement of your confidence in McCoy. Zay Jones is relevant in my opinion.

[Mike Wright]

Zay Jones has looked much better.

[Jason Moore]

And if Benjamin is out, Zay Jones is going to get targeted.

[Mike Wright]

And Charles Clay goes back to being Mr. Necessary. Jason, I believe your stream of the week was Tyrod.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure was. So that's good that he's playing.

[Mike Wright]

That's great news.

[Andy Holloway]

Step one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I Think he's a fine stream, but he. Because the matchup is good against the Chiefs. But also remember, you know, Tyrod's much better at home.

[Andy Holloway]

That's.

[Mike Wright]

And that's not to disparage him as a stream.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I agree. He is much better at home. It's just what Kansas City has given up, especially to rushing, you know, to quarterbacks on the ground. I think Tyrod will expose that a lot this week.

[Jason Moore]

All right, well, let's. Let's do some. Go ahead.

[Andy Holloway]

Just out of curiosity, so the Pax and Lynch news.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

How this affects Demaryus Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders. Can you trust those guys to start?

[Mike Wright]

I saw Scott Barrett, Pro Football Focus tweeted out and he was kind of breaking down. The limited sample we have of Paxton lynch and the target share was to Emanuel Sanders in his favor.

[Jason Moore]

I think what you do in that situation, since we don't know, I mean, we just don't know what Paxton lynch is going to be able to do. I think you can lean a little bit on the matchup. Oakland struggled two very talented wide receivers. If Paxton lynch is able to do anything, this is an opportunity for him to do it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I still play both. Thomas.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I guess that's the. That's the gist. All right, we're going to do an early in and out. It is very early Wednesday, so we're going to give you our best guess on some of these injured players. What's going to happen? Just so you know, a lay of the land before you get ready. I mean, you got three games. You got to prepare for tomorrow already. Oh, hey, you're preparing for the Minnesota, Detroit, Dallas, the Chargers, Washington and New York are all playing tomorrow.

[Andy Holloway]

We try to give you this, you know, advice every time we talk about the Thursday Night Football game, but this is an extremely important week to take this advice because you will all have players playing tomorrow. The majority of listeners, if your guy is playing on Thursday, get him out of the flex and put him at your running back. Put him at your wide receiver, even if he's the lousiest player. If you know you're going to start that guy, get him out of the flex. That way you have flexibility going forward with injuries in the week and things like that. You just don't want to take up that flex spot. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

One of the strategic advantages you have in that situation is, you know, maybe you get to play a safer guy in the flex because you scored a bunch of points on Thursday or the. The inverse of that situation. You can react to how your opponent. And with six games on Thursday, you might have a little idea how your matchup's going.

[Andy Holloway]

Six teams.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, sorry. With six teams, three games, you. You might have a gauge of how your matchups going and what type of players you need to play, and you want to have that flexibility, like Jason said.

[Mike Wright]

Also, it's waiver day. Remember to drop it like it's hot.

[Andy Holloway]

Chop like it's hot.

[Mike Wright]

Look, and once again, I mean, we talked about yesterday how people, you know, kind of like, oh, this is gonna happen. Oh, I got. I got tweeted at. Yeah, someone. Someone in their league just grabbed devonte Freeman off of the waiver wire. And look, these things, they just.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I know they happen. I know that half the listeners are like, well, that would never happen in my league. Look, we play in as competitive a league as there exists, and sometimes not.

[Jason Moore]

Devonta Freeman levels, but there are players that stuff that shocks you and people get put in tough positions. Now, we're past the bye weeks, but injuries put people in a position where they have to drop somebody they don't want to drop and things like that.

[Mike Wright]

Always check.

[Andy Holloway]

Drop a leg.

[Jason Moore]

It's all right. Let's play in and out.

[Andy Holloway]

What's it gonna be? Me Fly. Are you in or out?

[Jason Moore]

All right, Quarterback position. Jay Cutler. Jacoby Brissette, Jameis Winston.

[Mike Wright]

So Cutlers the concussion. I'm gonna say he will be out. I think that.

[Andy Holloway]

Then I will say he'll be in. Yeah, we have got it covered. No news on this one.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we're just waiting. Jacoby Brissette. We think he'll be in.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Jameis Winston out.

[Andy Holloway]

Definitely out.

[Jason Moore]

Devonta Freeman now running back.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's tough because he's still in the protocol.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to go in.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think he'll play this week. He missed last week. He's feeling better. I guess he passes the protocol.

[Jason Moore]

Samaj P. Ryan in.

[Andy Holloway]

In for sure.

[Jason Moore]

Duke Johnson.

[Mike Wright]

I'll say he is in. Is a shoulder injury during the game, but I think he'll play.

[Jason Moore]

Ty Montgomery.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, Monty.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to say he's out. I mean, you re aggravated the rib injury. If you come back too soon, you're just going to keep playing the cycle. I think they.

[Jason Moore]

They don't have a. They don't have a lot of reason to play Matt Forte, Mike Davis.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to go out for both.

[Andy Holloway]

Agreed.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Mike Davis is the Seahawks running back, by the way.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to let you know that since he came off the practice squad. All right, let's turn to the wide receivers.

[Andy Holloway]

Kelvin Benjamin, not practicing Wednesday. It was. It was just. There was no ligament damage in his knee, so he could play.

[Jason Moore]

I think he's going to miss. I do, too. I'm going to go out.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Sterling Shepard, he's having major issues.

[Mike Wright]

This is a Percy Harvin situation. This is not good. I feel bad for the man.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Sterling Shepard, this is a. This is a problem.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. To have migraines creep up before last week and cause you to miss the game and now practice, too. Days of further rest and you're not able to practice, that's scary. There's no way to know. There's no way to predict. But he could absolutely miss this game.

[Jason Moore]

If he misses, are you confident enough? I mean, would you play Roger Lewis. Roger Lewis against the Washington defense?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Juju Smith. Schuster has a small hamstring injury.

[Mike Wright]

I'm laughing because I reported this in the office yesterday and I think it was Andy's. Like what? Like his hamstrings are tiny.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Small hamstring injury. Way too small.

[Mike Wright]

Well, it was labeled as a small hamstring issue.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's got an issue. He's got really small hamstrings. That's why he's so fast.

[Jason Moore]

I think he's gonna go.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I would assume he will play as well.

[Jason Moore]

Alan Hearns is a no for me.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's a no.

[Jason Moore]

Chris Hogan.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm gonna stay.

[Jason Moore]

No, more like Chris. No gin. Right. Right.

[Mike Wright]

You deserve this.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Will Fuller.

[Andy Holloway]

Is gonna be out.

[Mike Wright]

Go. No.

[Jason Moore]

Jordan Matthews.

[Mike Wright]

I think he'll play.

[Jason Moore]

Mike Williams.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Mike Williams will play.

[Jason Moore]

Quick note on the quarterback. In and out. We don't know if it's grappler or beathard this week. You got to monitor that in San Francisco. If for some reason you're starting one of them.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, crazy things happen.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

We play in a couple quarterback leagues.

[Andy Holloway]

Where I think it makes a difference for Kittle and Bits.

[Jason Moore]

Jordan Reed.

[Mike Wright]

I'm gonna say he's out.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm gonna say he's never coming back. I mean, yes, he's out, but Tyler.

[Jason Moore]

Croft had a right hand injury, questionable. Reentered the game.

[Mike Wright]

In.

[Jason Moore]

I think so, too.

[Andy Holloway]

He better be in. He's my. Well. Oh. Don't want to spoil the news, but yes, I think he's going to be in.

[Jason Moore]

George Kettle and Bits, the tight end for the 49ers.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think he's in as well. He had a week off and a bye week, so he should be ready.

[Jason Moore]

Most important player in football MVP Tyrone Smith, left tackle for the Dallas Cowboys.

[Andy Holloway]

This is the first time in the history of the fantasy footballers that are in or out section has included an offensive lineman as a. He brought a whole new position to the in or out segment.

[Jason Moore]

I'm starting. I'm going to start a left tackle league next year.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I would draft Tyrone Smith. Yeah. Yeah. The. It's a game time decision. The early indications are that he will probably play monitor closely and if he's out, so is.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I had one other player that I wanted to get your opinion on. Do you think Devin Funch is going to play this week?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I do.

[Jason Moore]

What do you think?

[Mike Wright]

I think he's gonna play.

[Jason Moore]

Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think I have any questions.

[Jason Moore]

I think he's in. All right. Devin Funches is gonna play. Game day alerts. Don't forget.

[Mike Wright]

People are like, wait, what happened to Devin? Devin Scrumptious.

[Andy Holloway]

He's fine.

[Jason Moore]

He's totally fine.

[Andy Holloway]

It's just a reason to play the drop.

[Jason Moore]

It's just a reason to dance. It's the Megalodon.

[Andy Holloway]

Megalodance.

[Jason Moore]

Megalit.

[Andy Holloway]

It was right there for you and you missed it.

[Mike Wright]

I was throwing it out, but Jason beat me to it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Game day alerts. One hour before the games on Sunday. If you are not a part of that JoinTheFoot.com come support the podcast. Hopefully you still want to after that dance. Probably not. And you'd can do [e-mail] Mike's always on Periscope an hour before kickoff. Now you're doing that in spite of the fact you're going on a little family vacation. You'll be on Periscope before you leave.

[Mike Wright]

Should be tbd.

[Andy Holloway]

Too kind.

[Jason Moore]

He should be. So we're almost to the fantasy forecast.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my goodness. Before we get into the matchups.

[Andy Holloway]

All of them. All of the matchups.

[Mike Wright]

Brooks, do you have those emergency Oreos like I asked? You got those ready?

[Jason Moore]

I'm ready.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

All right guys, we get a preview each and every matchup. Can't wait for this entire year.

[Andy Holloway]

I did my push ups.

[Jason Moore]

Now there are no bye weeks. So we don't even get a break. We don't even get like a couple.

[Andy Holloway]

So We've got like Max 34 games all together.

[Jason Moore]

34 games.

[Andy Holloway]

34 games. Incredible.

[Jason Moore]

Spanning 68 teams. No, let's get right into it.

[Mike Wright]

Basketball.

[Jason Moore]

We're including Australian rules and Canadian teams today. Oh, Thanksgiving day games. We're going to start right there with the Vikings and the Lions in Detroit. They always play on Thanksgiving and they are three point underdogs at home. I think this is a very exciting.

[Andy Holloway]

Lions are.

[Jason Moore]

The Lions are. They're the ones at home and 44 and a half point over under. Got the case Keno experience the 8 and 2 Vikings coming to town. I think this is going to be a fun game. I think it's going to be an interesting one. You know, what are the big headline storylines here? Would you rather play Latavius Murray or Jerick McKinnon in this matchup? With the way that the Vikings defense plays against running backs, which is second.

[Andy Holloway]

In the league in this matchup, which I expect to be close, I would rather have Latavius Murray. I don't think we're going to have a situation here where the Lions are going to be able to get out to an early big lead and need to use McKinnon as in the passing situation.

[Jason Moore]

Wait, you mean the Vikings get out to elite.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm saying.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I'm sorry. Alliance.

[Andy Holloway]

Get out to elite.

[Jason Moore]

I got you. Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Forcing McKinnon to be in that pass catching role. Now he'll be utilized. I like both players. I would start both players, but I would put Latavius Murray ahead of McKinnon this week. He's just been so involved. They use him a little bit more at the goal line. McKinnon is still in there sometimes, you know, when they get inside the five, I mean, these are two really good offenses and one great defense. And the Lions defense is not like the Lions of old. I mean, they're. I worry that this game, which has so many fantasy players that we like and it looks juicy because they're all in one game, I worry that it's going to be a little bit closer, a little bit lower scoring on this short week. That's my only worry with this game.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to lean the McKinnon direction. Out of that decision. Last week, McKinnon 58% of snaps compared to 42% for Latavius Murray. Murray's making his hay by getting those red zone opportunities. I'm going to go with the snap count there, but I think both are very startable in this game. Mike, what stands out to you on that Minnesota side? You confident in Diggs? A lot of people asking about him.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's wheels up for everyone on Minnesota. Honestly. I mean, Keenum I think is a very fine Stream this week. McKinnon and Murray, I think I side with Murray, but both are very startable. Adam Thielen is a. Is an elite wide receiver. 1. That's right, people. Adam Thielen is an elite wide receiver. 1. Stefan Diggs can be an elite wide receiver. 1. And Kyle Rudolph blow in tight end. When both Diggs and Thielen are Doing their thing. Kyle Rudolph is just a little possession guy who's a better playing field.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It's like Charles Clay is Mr. Necessary because they rely on him.

[Mike Wright]

He gets yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And Kyle Rudolph is better than Charles Clay, but he's like Mr. Not Needed.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

It's just when Diggs and Thielen are there, it's like, hey, you're good. Unnecessary, though.

[Jason Moore]

Mr. Unnecessary.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Marvin Jones, great bounce back performance last week. Probably listen to our show.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But he has Xavier Rhodes, who should play, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Xavier Rhodes says he's going to play.

[Jason Moore]

So you do you just cross Marvin Jones off your list?

[Mike Wright]

I don't cross him off the list, but you got to move him down marginalized.

[Jason Moore]

Like that stuffing that your other aunt brings to Thanksgiving.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I get close to marking him off my list because Xavier Rhodes has shut down a lot of really good players. And we, you know, Marvin Jones does disappear from time to time. And if. If you can predict when it's going to happen, it's going to be against an elite corner. So he moves down to where he's a borderline flex. Play to me.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's.

[Mike Wright]

Golden Tate is in. And like I said, I pumped the brakes on Abdullah. So in. Riddick has kind of really not done much of anything this fantasy season. So it's.

[Andy Holloway]

It's really.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, it's. You could play Stafford.

[Andy Holloway]

Stafford 8.

[Mike Wright]

That's really all I'm. I'm super interested in.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

This is interesting. Speaking to Amir Abdullah. He brought him up earlier. He's been stuffed 31.9% of the time on his rushing attempts. That's the worst stuff rate in the entire league.

[Andy Holloway]

Looks like we were right on our stuffing stuff.

[Jason Moore]

The brakes?

[Andy Holloway]

No, our computer algorithm that we built earlier. This.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you're trying to figure out who.

[Andy Holloway]

Could tackle Amir Abdul, whether or not they could.

[Jason Moore]

But do you want to check that again?

[Mike Wright]

What if I had a human sized garbage bag?

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

But it was full of feathers.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Could that stop Amir Abdullah?

[Jason Moore]

Let me type that in. Let me see.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. All right.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So it continues.

[Mike Wright]

What about like, I mean, because, you know, guys get like, shoestring tag.

[Jason Moore]

Don't overload the computer.

[Mike Wright]

Shoestring tag. Well, this is a simple one. Okay. It's a groundhog. What if he grabbed his shoe?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Let me see. Yeah, unfortunately.

[Andy Holloway]

That's better. Hey, good. In all seriousness, though, this game is inside, in a dome, so I don't think we'll have groundhog issues.

[Mike Wright]

That's a great point.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

What if I guess Stray cat ran on the field, though.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, we've seen that before. We've actually experienced that and we're gonna check. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, unfortunately.

[Andy Holloway]

Leave him alone.

[Jason Moore]

Leave him alone.

[Andy Holloway]

He's been pumped already.

[Jason Moore]

The Chargers take on.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me just.

[Mike Wright]

You sound like the Mad Hatter.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me just interject here. If you are not part of the Join the foot community and did not listen to yesterday's foot cast. There is Andy Holloway doing this Arnold Schwarzenegger impression. That is the best thing I've heard in my entire life.

[Jason Moore]

Also could be described as the worst.

[Andy Holloway]

It's so bad. We've got to get this out there.

[Jason Moore]

You guys are very kind to me. I feel. Me and Amir Abdullah are off in the corner together. The charges they take on the Cowboys. The Cowboys are reeling right now. They are one point underdogs at home. And I think the Chargers win this game. So I'm with Vegas on that 1:48 point over under, which affords a lot of fantasy value. And I'm excited to see this matchup. I'm excited to see what Melvin Gordon. Keenan Allen can do. Obviously I brought up Keenan Allen earlier. I think he's going to be good. Not great.

[Mike Wright]

Despite the Cowboys allowing the 24th most points to the wide receiver position.

[Jason Moore]

Despite that. Yeah, he is not.

[Mike Wright]

Look, I would expect it over nine times a week.

[Jason Moore]

I know, but that. That's fine. That's. I mean, you're describing like the evidence.

[Mike Wright]

Is mounting against you.

[Jason Moore]

You're describing like Michael Thomas light for his average weekly performance. He doesn't generally get in the end zone.

[Mike Wright]

Last week, Michael Thomas light is very. Quenches the thirst.

[Jason Moore]

I said it's fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Very refreshing.

[Jason Moore]

Michael Thomas is better than Kenan.

[Andy Holloway]

L agreed. And I would like a light version of him as well on my team.

[Jason Moore]

All right, that's fine. You don't have to. Look. I'm not saying to bench him. Would you rather start Keenan or Des this week?

[Mike Wright]

That's an excellent question.

[Jason Moore]

Would you like to ever start Des again?

[Andy Holloway]

I would rather start Keenan Allen than Des Bryant this week. And part of the reason for that is because Sean Lee has been officially ruled out. Sean Lee's not playing on Thursday. And if you look. And that's, you know, Sean Lee's linebacker for the Dallas Cowboys who is. Has had an injury riddled career. But when he is out there, their defense is good. It's actually like really good against the run and you know, it's upgraded against the pass and when he is out, it's just terrible. I mean, they're missing the centerpiece of their defense and so I think Keenan Allen will be able to expose that. Melvin Gordon gets a huge bump up. I believe that in the games that Sean Lee has not played this year, the Dallas Cowboys are averaging something like over six and a half yards per rush. Oh, to the opponent.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. What do you do, Jay? What do you do with Hunter Henry with the Goose?

[Andy Holloway]

He's one of those guys where he's not Goose and.

[Mike Wright]

But he is definitely caboosen.

[Jason Moore]

I would rather still boost in his big boy pants.

[Andy Holloway]

So there's about seven tight ends right now that if you've got him, you're starting them, you know, your studs and then your. Charles Clay is questionable.

[Jason Moore]

Evan Ingram.

[Andy Holloway]

Rudolph Evan Ingram. But he is, you know, Hunter Henry, because there's no, there's not 12 surefire guys. I still side with starting Hunter Henry because when he hits, he has the potential, the talent, the offense to hit large and make a difference. Because you got a 50% chance of any of those guys that you take a shot at getting you four or less points like that, you know, just crap it on your team. And if they're all going to do that, swing for the fences, go for the upside. And Hunter Henry absolutely fits that.

[Jason Moore]

Starting Philip Rivers.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Would you start him over Dak?

[Andy Holloway]

If. If Tyron. This would be.

[Jason Moore]

I would start him. I'd probably start him over Dak.

[Andy Holloway]

If Tyron Smith is out, I would certainly start him over Dak. If Tyrone Smith is in, I would start Dak.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Last week, you know, we saw Dakota without Tyron Smith again, it was not good. Alfred Morris, I'm going to tell you right now, he's going to start of the week. I'm going to make the case for Alfred Morris.

[Mike Wright]

I love it this week.

[Jason Moore]

The big thing that you got to look at there is look what the Sean McCoy did when everybody knew he was running the ball last week against the San Diego running defense. That's the one.

[Mike Wright]

Los Angeles.

[Jason Moore]

I'm sorry, it's been a while since I've done the Los Angeles rushing defense. Look, they can get after the passer, but for whatever reason, they cannot cover up the running back. So I like Alfred Morris. Jason Whitten, big disappointment last week, only one catch, despite the fact that we thought maybe he'd be the outlet for Dak Prescott. And so I'd rather play Hunter Henry than Whitten, for example. Last thought here. Does Bryant look 5.6 yards per target, fourth worst in the league. He is not currently the player that he's been.

[Mike Wright]

Gotta go deep, man.

[Andy Holloway]

They didn't have time to go deep. I mean.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they really did, though. This is why I had my preseason hesitation. It's nothing against Des. It was all track record. It was all years of Romo. We know what you got with dez. You don't know it with Dak yet. And I. Look, there were some compelling cases on both sides, but right now, right here, DEZ Bryant is. He's a what, two, three guy?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would say two.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. The Giants.

[Mike Wright]

Well, we do have a mailbag question. Carrier pigeon just landed.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, okay.

[Mike Wright]

And it actually came in from Brooks just across the room.

[Jason Moore]

It's like a crow to me.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know where he got the bird, but he said Philip Rivers or Matthew Stafford? Because we've talked about both of them.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And he's selfish and he's using airtime for his own.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to go the home game. That's tough because Minnesota's defense is so good. So I'll probably go Rivers.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to go Rivers.

[Jason Moore]

I like the home game for Stafford, but I'm going to go Rivers.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Thank you for that carrier. Take your bird carrier, Crow. I didn't know they could do that. Are the Giants at 2 and 8 coming off a big win against the Chiefs? They take on the Redskins. The Redskins are at home and guys, I. No, I know it's crazy, but.

[Andy Holloway]

No, you're not. Andy's almost upset of the week. What are you seeing here that makes you think the Giants will compete with the Redskins?

[Jason Moore]

I'm seeing a Giants team that actually put forth effort last week, divisional game, and a Washington team that cannot string wins together. They won last week or actually they lost last week, didn't they?

[Andy Holloway]

Unbelievably, they did.

[Jason Moore]

Unbelievably, they lost. I don't think that Washington gets the seven points. I mean, they're seven point favorites. So I'd be taking the Giants and the points in this one.

[Andy Holloway]

Even if Sterling Shepard is out.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

He was out last week. They beat the Chiefs last week. They shut down the Chiefs. I think the defense, you no longer have Chris Thompson. That's a huge weapon that they've had in the offense. You're not going to have Jordan Reed. Josh Dachshund is not consistent yet. I don't think the weapons are going to afford Washington to run away with this game. I think it's going to be Close. And I think you're going to be eating your turkey and nodding and saying Andy got it again.

[Andy Holloway]

The last time that I thought you were this crazy on your almost upset of the week was with the Washington Redskins last week when you said that they might almost upset the New Orleans Saints.

[Jason Moore]

He blew an 18 point lead and.

[Andy Holloway]

They were crushing them and almost upset them. So I guess I will acquiesce here to whatever you are seeing there. And the Giants, they're going to need.

[Mike Wright]

To, they're going to need to call up the service. If they can get the services of Storm from the X Men to come in and, and do what she did last week, then maybe, maybe the Giants have a chance. But this is, it's Washington going away.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, I really believe in the Washington offensive weapons. I think when we get to the starts of the week we will see that we kind of all do.

[Mike Wright]

For fantasy purposes.

[Andy Holloway]

For fantasy purposes, yes. So I agree. A seven point line.

[Jason Moore]

It'S okay. Just disagree. It makes it more exciting.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we'll see.

[Jason Moore]

So Darkwa, light him up.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

Redskins are 26 against the running back position in fantasy and he's getting a ton of carries. He's being spelled briefly by Wayne Gallman or Shane Vereen, but it's Orlean Dark was backfield Sterling Shepard. We don't think he's going to play. We talked about whether you might start somebody else. I think only Evan Ingrams, the passing option is the only passing option I would start.

[Mike Wright]

If Shepard is in though, I will play him.

[Jason Moore]

Here's the thing. Eli is averaging 36 attempts a game. That's fourth highest in the league. So they are going to go somewhere. So if you have to take a shot in the dark. Roger Lewis made some plays last week. He would be the shot in the dark for me. But would you play Eli Manning himself against the Redskins?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I wouldn't. Especially if Sterling Shepard is out, you know, and on the other side of the ball, you know, so I'm starting Darkwa and probably Evan Ingram and then that's it for the Redskins. If you look at what the New York Giants and I realized last week, they showed up, they played with much more effort than it looked like they had been playing with earlier. After that team meeting with Jenkins, McAdoo, Jenorris. Jenkins had. I mean he looked like the player that we've been waiting to see or we expected to see. You're afraid of. But on the season as far as fantasy points given up against the position, the New York giants are the 31st so meaning the second worst against quarterback. They're 20th against the running back, they're 32nd, meaning the worst against tight end.

[Mike Wright]

Feel the Vern.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean they're just across the board pretty much. They've been a bad defense. So this is why I think, look, you're starting Kirk Cousins. I think he's going to be great at home.

[Mike Wright]

Oh yes.

[Jason Moore]

P. Ryan is going to get a ton of work.

[Mike Wright]

Oh yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah. Light them up.

[Mike Wright]

Oh yes.

[Jason Moore]

Josh Dachshund.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yes.

[Mike Wright]

I'm very excited.

[Jason Moore]

Jameson Crowder.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Crowder is.

[Mike Wright]

Crowder's interesting because he's kind of the wild card with those. Chris Thompson. He's the start of the week with. With the Chris Thompson targets vacated, where will those final.

[Jason Moore]

Vernon may benefit a lot from that too.

[Mike Wright]

Oh man.

[Andy Holloway]

I just want to throw this out as well since we, we haven't brought up the name. But Byron Marshall is essentially the only other running back now for Washington who was activated because of the injuries to Rob Kelly and to Chris Thompson. If you're, you know, in a, in a deeper league. Waivers. No, no, I'm just saying if he's the number two guy. I mean if you're in a 20 man league, I would, I would. If. If you've got just a garbage guy on your, on your, on your team right now, I think just seeing if he is involved in the game might be worth it. Just throwing the name out there because we've never mentioned him yet on the show.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And we saw what Mike Davis did this past week for Seattle, having not been mentioned. And coming up in the practice sometimes.

[Andy Holloway]

Fresh legs at the running back position late in the season they're just a little quicker than the defense.

[Jason Moore]

P. Ryan has a finger injury and he's had fumbling issues so there are opportunities there. All right. The Buccaneers take on the Falcons Sunday and the Falcons coming off a big win, 48 and a half point over under eight and a half point favorites in this game. I'm not questioning anything about those lines myself. And it's not good for Tampa right now. I know they won last week, but you played one of the worst teams in the league. I mean the record for Miami doesn't reflect the stats for Miami. Miami is actually one of the worst teams in the league statistically.

[Mike Wright]

Stolen wins. I don't know how they did.

[Jason Moore]

They really have. And so I don't think it's going to be very easy sledding for Ryan Fitzpatrick, Mike Evans, desean Jackson. Only three targets last week. Doug Martin has Struggled. Cameron Braid is now three straight games with only one catch. I really don't want anybody in this matchup. I know there's some logic there that says, hey, you know the Falcons, they're not a top end defense. But at home I just, I don't think I want anybody.

[Mike Wright]

You're saying even Mike Evans, other than.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, you're going to start Mike Evans because he's a must start guy. But I don't, I'm not enthusiastic about. I don't want to stream Fitzpatrick. I don't want to play Martin. I don't want to play D Jacks or Braid. Yeah, that's just, that's where I'm at.

[Mike Wright]

I can, I can agree at least.

[Jason Moore]

You know, with Evans, you get nine targets a game.

[Mike Wright]

Well, indeed. Do you, do you buy into all that? The pendulum has swung over to O.J. howard, who had the. He had four targets, 3 for 52 with a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think so.

[Mike Wright]

Any interest there?

[Jason Moore]

No, I, I mean if you're staring down Howard or Brait, are you going Howard now because of the ice, man, I guess I don't want either.

[Andy Holloway]

I still lean towards the Brait side, but I, Yeah, I mean the truth is I don't want either. We just don't have Fitzpatrick having a career of throwing to the tight end. I mean, you know, whether it was in New York or now here, he's had pretty much one game that I can remember where he's highly targeted, a tight end over his career.

[Mike Wright]

And over on the Atlanta side, I mean, it's. I love Matt Ryan this week. I love Matt Ryan against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Devonte Freeman.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, man, thanks.

[Mike Wright]

Thanks, Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, no problem. Just wanted to throw my support your way.

[Mike Wright]

I appreciate you. Devonte Freeman once again monitor his situation if he is cleared to play or not.

[Andy Holloway]

If he's out.

[Mike Wright]

Kevin, Kevin Coleman gets a huge, huge bump. What did he. I believe he had 20 carries. Yeah, 20 carries against the Seahawks. Not a great yards per carry, but that's kind of to be expected. And Julio, Julio will be the number.

[Andy Holloway]

One wide receiver this week. Whoa.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he'll finish this week as the number one wide receiver. That's my prediction. He'll be number one in my rankings for sure.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Interesting.

[Andy Holloway]

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I mean, they have just been so bad against wide receivers. I'm starting Mohammed Sanu. I think he's a great play this week and Julio should be able to exploit it. You know, you wait for these big blow up games from Julio, but they Come and you know they're coming again. They've been here before this season.

[Jason Moore]

And this, you're throwing chips down on this game.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm saying, hey, but I'm betting on red.

[Mike Wright]

What about. Both teams are red, but Austin Deucer, who he returned to his.

[Jason Moore]

Come on his two target ways.

[Andy Holloway]

No, you can't start Austin Hooper.

[Mike Wright]

I mean before that he had three straight games of six targets.

[Jason Moore]

No, thank you.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Next year.

[Jason Moore]

All right. No, not next year either.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe.

[Jason Moore]

Is he going to change into Tony Gonzalez?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'm just saying it's only year two for a tight end who looks to be talented, I think going into the third year he could step it up.

[Mike Wright]

Here's the thing of those games I'm talking about. So two of those. Two of his last three games, I guess two of his last four because the game against Seattle was awful. Negative one yards, but 47 yards, a touchdown. Six for 49 and a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a talented player, Austin Hooper on a good offense, but I still think he's a little too raw and young. That's why I say maybe next year he'll be valuable.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, so you would play Hunter Henry over Austin Hooper?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. I realize they're both second year players, but Hunter Henry has the proven track record already.

[Jason Moore]

Guys, you want to watch this Browns Bengals matchup?

[Andy Holloway]

Do I.

[Jason Moore]

This game's in.

[Andy Holloway]

I hear you get tickets and they'll pay you.

[Jason Moore]

I hear they'll pay you to attend. 38 and a half point over under. The Bengals are eight and a half point favorites. Look, I like Andy Dalton. He's a stream of the week. I know we all like Andy Dalton. I like AJ Green like always. I'm okay with Joe Mixon and I know that the Browns have been good against the run, But I think 20 touches is guaranteed for Joe Mixon in this game. And if you're winning, he's going to get those touches. I know he's not sexy, Mike. It's unfortunate because he seemed like he was going to be sexy.

[Mike Wright]

Absolutely, he did.

[Jason Moore]

But their offensive line is bad. And then the tomb raider, Tyler Croft, your start of the week last week came through with a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's holding it down.

[Jason Moore]

And in case you didn't know, the Browns, they love giving up points to the tight end position.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they are 30th as far as points given up to the tight end position. And I, I don't know how they're not 31st because obviously the Giants are going.

[Mike Wright]

Broncos are there.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but I mean, you you start tight ends against the Browns. Tyler Croft is, is a must start type of guy unless you have one of those elite, you know, Zach Ertz type players. The guy that I'm most curious about in this game is Corey Coleman. Corey Coleman, an elite collegiate wide receiver drafted to be a superstar, showed some signs of that last year and then got injured, was gone, comes back finally after more injury, show signs of that.

[Mike Wright]

He came back to 11 targets.

[Andy Holloway]

He came back to 11 targets against the Jacksonville Jaguars. 6 for 80, had 80 yards. The only other guy to have more than 75 yards this year against the Jaguars is Antonio Brown. But this is again a bad matchup. I mean last week was too. And you were fine starting Corey Coleman. But the Bengals are the fourth best team against the wide, wide receiver position. So do you just hold Corey Coleman another week or do you take that shot this week of being able to start him against the Bengals as a 3?

[Mike Wright]

I can see you playing him as a, as a wide receiver 3.

[Jason Moore]

I know this seems crazy, but I mean we know that the Browns, they can play the run a little bit. Brand Lefell is coming off a 10 target and then a 5 target game. Would you play Coleman over LaFell?

[Mike Wright]

That is an interesting.

[Jason Moore]

I was checking the target totals for.

[Andy Holloway]

I would play Corey Coleman over Brandon Lafell in this game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, man.

[Jason Moore]

I think I would go with the.

[Mike Wright]

Volume, but I think Coleman seems safer. But I would also say that the touchdown upside probability has to be Brandon lefell.

[Andy Holloway]

I guess with the eight and a half point, you know, favorite that the Bengals are, I think that the Browns will have to throw the ball. I mean, that's usually their case. So I, you know, I don't think the Bengals the way that you've seen some of these last two games where, you know, they were down and having to throw. I don't think that will happen in this game. To cause Brandon lefell to be very valuable is kind of how I see it.

[Jason Moore]

Would that be like a 2414 game if things came true? Two touchdowns for Cleveland?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. I mean that math. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

What about Duke Johnson? He's been targeted 60 times. Yeah, 60 times.

[Jason Moore]

With him being banged up and the Bengals defense, I'm okay, but I'm okay with it. If you've been starting him, you probably keep starting him. If he's active, if you haven't started him, I don't think this is a reason to start starting him.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm continuing to start him for sure. I mean, he's just been, you know, if you're plugging in a flex play. He's as solid a floor type of guy as you can get from the Browns.

[Jason Moore]

And he runs on the ground, right?

[Mike Wright]

No. Levitating, yes.

[Andy Holloway]

But most of his work is done through the air.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah. The Titans, they take on the Colts. The Colts are at home, 40 point over under. Colts are four and a half point underdogs. I think.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, look, you can play Frank Gorgan.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, sure, sure.

[Mike Wright]

You kind of can, Mr. Simpson.

[Jason Moore]

I think the Titans are going to blow him out.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they probably will.

[Jason Moore]

So I know you guys like Brissette as a possible streamer. Just when he plays, he puts up fantasy points and he's going to be losing in this game, most likely.

[Mike Wright]

And The Titans are 20 seconds against.

[Jason Moore]

Colts are team, though. I mean, they put up that great performance against the Steelers a couple of weeks ago. I think the Titans, you start them all. Yes, but what does that mean at the wide receiver position? Because Mariota, Murray, Delaney, Walker's been good. Those three players, you can start with confidence. Against the Colts, I think this game.

[Andy Holloway]

You start Rashard Matthews and you start Corey Davis.

[Mike Wright]

I would agree.

[Andy Holloway]

And I would. Even though I said them in that order, I would. If I had to pick one of those guys. I think this is the breakout game for Corey Davis.

[Jason Moore]

That's disheartening for me and my Listener League team. Somebody dropped Corey Davis in the Listener League yesterday. And I noticed that I put in my highest bid that I could.

[Andy Holloway]

I did as well. I had $0 fab. And I wouldn't get him.

[Jason Moore]

I put in. I only had like five bucks, so I did not get him. So Dylan Duncan, shame on you. I used to like you.

[Andy Holloway]

Dang it. I think it's between me and him for the buy. Oh, stupid Dylan.

[Jason Moore]

Dylan Duncan, he'd play. What? He only paid four bucks.

[Andy Holloway]

Hmm. Someone didn't put all five dollars in. Huh?

[Jason Moore]

My bid is gone.

[Andy Holloway]

But I do. Oh, no.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think I ever saved it. I would have had him. I thought I put $5 in.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, that's it. You didn't save it.

[Jason Moore]

Judge, Judge. Do I have any recourse in this situation? Can you let me know, please? Sorry, Andy.

[Andy Holloway]

User error.

[Jason Moore]

User error. That'll get you here. Hot tip. Fantasy tips. Fantasy tips. Press the save button when you put in your waiver claims.

[Andy Holloway]

It might say submit.

[Jason Moore]

Sometimes I do those things. Just to give you an example. What not to do. I'm modeling what not to do.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so you start your Tennessee Titans. You're not going to start Derek Henry or would you be willing to start Derek Henry? Yeah, I would not either. But you start Marcus Mariota, should have a great game. Start Murray, start Matthews, start Corey Davis, and start Delaney Walker. But let's talk on the other side of the ball. Mike and I, we both agree.

[Mike Wright]

Jacoby Brissette, although I will bring up that, of course, was that. Most of it was that massive run at the end, but Derek Henry did. His big game was against the Colts.

[Andy Holloway]

You, like a lot of people's big game is against the Colts.

[Jason Moore]

You like Ty Hilton?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah, I do.

[Mike Wright]

I like Hilton a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

And I am the resident Ty Hilton.

[Jason Moore]

I think there's a lot of people that don't know who said yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, both of us did.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you both like him?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

And Mike, you have him as a start of the week?

[Andy Holloway]

Nope.

[Jason Moore]

Jason?

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

All right. I knew one of you did talk about him. Shortly, we're going to break up the matchups, by the way, right in the middle. We're going to do starts of the week for this week, and then we'll get into the other matchups. We're going to do a couple more before we do that. The Bills take on the Chiefs. Tyrod Taylor once again behind center Lashawn McCoy. No questions. Had a great week last week. Get them out there. Don't think Calvin Benjamin is going to play for me. It's Zay Jones. I really like Zay Jones. As a streaming option this week against the Chiefs, 22nd ranked past defense. I'm sorry, 32nd ranked.

[Mike Wright]

Against the wide receiver?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, against the wide receiver position. That's bad. Look, somebody. You know what? Talk to people right now. Talk to people about Kareem Hunt. Talk to them.

[Mike Wright]

I want to talk to Andy Reid.

[Jason Moore]

Just. Just give people the. They need some help because here's what happened. You came out and you drafted Kareem Hunt after we told you to, hopefully in the third or fourth round. And you were just living the dream, man, about town. I mean, you were. You were on the float waving to everybody as your fantasy points dripped down onto your league mates.

[Mike Wright]

You felt like Danny Zuko.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. But now you're having to endure some disappointment and frustration, and you just. I think a lot of people in fantasy, when that happens, they just want to do something. They want to make a change. They want to make a trade. They want to make a start. Sit decision. You get people right Even three weeks ago. Well, do I start playing this guy over him now? Even though Hunt was still outperforming. Talk to them, guys. Calm them down. Do you need music?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, look, here's how you. Here's how we can calm you down. The issue that we were seeing with Kareem Hunt was that he was on the field less. He was not getting the carries. Two weeks ago. It was the biggest scare, right? Nine total carries in the game seems outlandish, seems insane. And was exactly the fear that Andy brought up with what we've seen before from this coaching staff. And so Kareem Hunt comes out this last week and has a subpar game. But in reality, this was. He had 18 carries, which you can't ask for more than 18 carries as a fantasy. I mean, that sure you can be happy, but you can't ask for more. Plus he got three receptions. It didn't turn out that great. And honestly, he has not been as good as he was in the beginning of the year. We've seen this with rookies in the past where they hit a rookie wall. That being said, an ailment can be cured with the right matchup. And yes, the New York Giants appeared like they were a bad matchup. But Andy, you brought this up, that they played, you know, a lot different last week after that coach meeting. Mike, you brought up the weather. Here we have the Buffalo Bills who made that mid season trade, sending one of their best run defenders to Jacksonville. And both teams have completely turned around.

[Jason Moore]

And real quick, I just want to give you perspective on the Bills last two weeks. You combine the points they've given up. It's over 100 points. Jacksonville's given up 97 points in the last eight weeks. That's the Bill's defense right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's the Bill's defense that allowed how many rushing attempts was it in a row that the New Orleans Saints.

[Mike Wright]

24.

[Andy Holloway]

24 rushing attempts in a row. Because it's like, oh, this works. Let's just keep doing this.

[Mike Wright]

But will Andy Reid do that or will he go, it's working, I better throw the ball.

[Jason Moore]

Do you think Andy Reid thinks that passes are runs and runs are passes? Maybe like just from a, like, vocabulary standpoint. So he always watches these games, is like, oh man, they passed it 22 straight times against.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I got to do that. So the last three games, here's the yardage that the Buffalo Bills have given up to running backs on the ground. 181 yards, 294 yards. Okay, 139 yards. All right, that's great. Now here's the touchdowns they've given up in those three games. Two just on the ground. 2 5, 2. Kareem Hunt is a great play this week. Break. He's got the ball.

[Jason Moore]

Break the touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, I think he does break the touchdown. Drought. Drought.

[Jason Moore]

That's the. That's the word. That's the word I was looking for.

[Andy Holloway]

And if he doesn't. If. If he comes out and disappoints, you're still going to be fine. He's not going to disappoint with four fantasy points. He's going to disappoint you with 10 and be like, man. And then you'll be worried about next week, but you'll probably have still been able to compete in your matchup and win, sir.

[Jason Moore]

Reminder. All of our rankings for the upcoming week going to be on the website today. Megala rankings.

[Mike Wright]

By the time you hear this, with how long the podcast already is, the rankings might even be up.

[Jason Moore]

It's possible. But let's talk about Alex Smith. Are you starting him no matter what this week? Are you. Are you going to have to make some decisions here?

[Andy Holloway]

It's.

[Mike Wright]

He'll be a top 12 quarterback, so, yeah, I'm starting him.

[Jason Moore]

You like Rivers against Dallas more?

[Mike Wright]

That's an excellent question.

[Andy Holloway]

It is.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, that's a really tough. Because the matchup is.

[Jason Moore]

I think I play Alex Smith. Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

At home.

[Jason Moore]

I think I play Alex Smith at home.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I think I would as well.

[Jason Moore]

Would you play him over Matt Ryan against Tampa?

[Mike Wright]

No, I love Matt Ryan.

[Jason Moore]

Would you play him over Drew Brees against the Rams on the road? I think I'd probably play him at home over Brees. Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man, I feel like I'd love to.

[Andy Holloway]

You're wanting to put the. You're putting the finger up towards the water bet button.

[Jason Moore]

I kind of want to.

[Andy Holloway]

Water bet.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no. That was. That was inadvertent. I'm not trying to back you into it. That was inadvertent.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you inadvertently backed me into it.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. I just want to kind of.

[Mike Wright]

It's already in the blockchain, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

It's secure.

[Jason Moore]

It's already in the block.

[Andy Holloway]

Sorry. Completely scary.

[Jason Moore]

Kelsey Kelsey was the one player that actually did perform in that weird matchup against the Giants last week. You're obviously playing him. And look, we can. We can move on from this matchup. I think we covered all the relevant pieces. Tyree Kill.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, Tyree Kill is.

[Andy Holloway]

You just.

[Mike Wright]

You have to play him every week. This is the life.

[Jason Moore]

We talked about him on the show yesterday. It's not been as bad as you Feel like it has been. He actually, you know, we had talked about the good week, bad week. He's double digits the last two weeks in a row, so.

[Mike Wright]

Oh no. Two bad weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that was. That was the bi week in between, right?

[Jason Moore]

No, I mean like back to back weeks. He's actually had double digit points. I mean he's actually. He's had no dead weeks. It wasn't just the bye week. He's. Nope, you're right.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So we're.

[Mike Wright]

But that's what we had talked about.

[Jason Moore]

We said that the bye week was the bad week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So that's counted this week. Just be careful.

[Jason Moore]

Not great.

[Andy Holloway]

No, he should be fine. And we did mention this earlier, but in this matchup, Charles Clay, you can. You could definitely start Charles Clay with Tyrod playing.

[Jason Moore]

All right. One more matchup before starts of the week. The Dolphins take on the Patriots. Oh man. I was curious about the line.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, me too. What would Vegas say they would win by now? This is the betting line. Not what they think but like just that. Just the average probability.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to give people a second to come up with it in their mind.

[Andy Holloway]

So like is it more than a touchdown? Do you think it's like seven and a half?

[Jason Moore]

Is it more than two touchdowns?

[Andy Holloway]

Is it? Yeah. Is it 12, 14? That'd be insane.

[Jason Moore]

Think about it in your head right now. Brooks, you already know what it is, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I almost quizzed you guys yesterday because.

[Andy Holloway]

I had the same reaction.

[Jason Moore]

Sixteen and a half points.

[Mike Wright]

This, this is old school Patriots. Remember when they had to set the lines the Randy Moss year when Tom Brady had the 50 touchdowns and they kept doing this.

[Jason Moore]

Are you guys willing now they would cover. Last week you guys had me. You guys bet me, both of you versus me that I bet that the Dolphins wouldn't get to 2017 points.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, 17.

[Jason Moore]

I said 17 was over under and they scored 20. Are you willing to double or nothing me on the 17 points in this?

[Mike Wright]

No, because I'm watering you today.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And the Patriots have been.

[Mike Wright]

You're going to your feast just with soggy bottoms.

[Andy Holloway]

The Patriots defense did what we said they would eventually do this year. In the beginning when they we said there's no way they don't turn this around by the end. But you just have to wait until it's official.

[Jason Moore]

It's official.

[Andy Holloway]

It's official. Okay. The Patriots defense is good.

[Jason Moore]

Is that the turducken? Is it ready?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Well, the turducken usually that that bell has gone off hours ago and you forgot about it.

[Mike Wright]

I know your house is burned down.

[Jason Moore]

It's been terrible.

[Andy Holloway]

Happy Thanksgiving.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely terrible for Miami's offense, the defense. If you listen to the show yesterday, we talked about the points given up by the Patriots over the last five weeks. It hasn't been a lot. I don't think they've given up 20 points at all in the last five weeks. So you can double check that. But it's been real low and they're on fire offensively right now. Brady and Lewis. Brandon Cook.

[Mike Wright]

Who's your favorite running back of the week?

[Jason Moore]

Dion Lewis.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I like the. I mean, the volume has now swung so high in his favor that I'm going to. I'm willing to throw Deion Lewis out there, especially against the Dolphins. And, you know, if I have to pick between Drake and Damian Williams on that side, I guess you go Williams.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, you got to go Damian Williams. I think that for the Dolphins, the depends on if Matt Moore is in, then you, you have no choice. You have to have confidence in Kenny Stills. That's just the way that the world works.

[Jason Moore]

That's what I was gonna say. Like if, if Matt Moore's in, you know, you're starting Landry because Landry's an auto slap. So then what do you do with Devonte Parker now? Is he. Can he not be started if it's meant more?

[Mike Wright]

He can still be started legally.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

But I would prefer Jarvis or Kenny.

[Andy Holloway]

Stills over Parker just to speak to the Patriots because you brought that up. So last week they give up eight points to the high scoring Raiders. They give up 16 to the Broncos. The week before that, 13 to the Chargers, which is a pretty good offense. The week before that, seven to the Atlanta Falcons. The week prior to that, 17 to the Jets, 14 to the Patriots. So you're talking about they gave up 14 points to themselves to the Buccaneers.

[Mike Wright]

It was a mirror match.

[Andy Holloway]

So you're talking about six games where the opposing team has not got 20 points and most of the time they're under 14.

[Jason Moore]

All right, other storylines from this game, guys, other decisions fantasy owners are trying to make. Rex Burkhead, Danny Amendola, even. Even Martellis Bennett has been.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, no thanks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would say no thanks on Martellus. I just tried.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, but Amendola is. I mean, he's all over the place. But because he siphoned Gronk's points, right? I mean, Amendola had the big game, Gronk did not. So I don't. I would still put my chips on Gronk siphoning the point, so.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, the dollar Amanda also very poor against tight ends. They're the 28th team against Titans, so. Yeah, I agree with you that Amendola is less exciting because Gronk should get it done.

[Mike Wright]

If it comes out that somehow Chris Hogan does play, do you automatically put him in your starting position?

[Andy Holloway]

Absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would, too. I would, too. All right, we are. We're gonna press the pause button. Guys, I have a little something special I want to tell you about. Look, King Godfrey, this is a Megalodon episode and I got a Megalodeal that I want to tell you about. We're going to do starts of the week right now. Before you do that, listen to this. You've heard us talk about the DFS pass. Maybe you haven't. Oh, this is big news right now, through Cyber Monday, if you go to dfspass.com you get the DFS pass for 10 bucks. And that's not like per week or per month or no per day.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

And there's some cool tools in there, too. The FanDuel DraftKings comparison chart. So you could see which, you know, if you like a guy, look on there and you could see values that just stand out and go, oh, man, I gotta play this guy on that platform. It makes it really easy. Vegas reports really cool stuff.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And again, it's. We want you to try it. We want you to give us your feedback, see if you love it.

[Andy Holloway]

10 bucks, you got a couple days after Cyber Monday. That's it.

[Mike Wright]

I would do it right now. Because what if you don't know about dfs? For daily fantasy, Thanksgiving is huge. You go in, you play that. Just those three games make Thanksgiving just even. Even greater.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. DFS10 is the code. DFSPass.com use the code DFS10, you get a $10 DFS pass for the rest of the year.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

That's. That's a special deal. Yeah, special deal.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

I don't know what percentage of the equation was me just, you know, like we do that deal because I wanted to press that. Congrats, horn.

[Mike Wright]

The horn.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that horn. I mean, it was probably 80% of why we discounted the DFS pass. It was so I could hit this button.

[Andy Holloway]

Sounds good, man.

[Jason Moore]

King Godfrey approves the DFS deal. All right, starts of the week. Oh, for week 12, guys. Starts of the week right here, right now. Then we'll get into the rest of the matchups and we got daily dose and something very, very special that you need to pay attention to later. So I'm not going to tell you.

[Mike Wright]

What it is, but you better pay attention.

[Jason Moore]

You got to be on for the ride, along for the ride. All right, let's start at the quarterback position. I don't want Jason to get thrown off like last week.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you, cuz. I'm not listening.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going with Cam Newton. I want to. I want to illuminate the world of Cam Newton. Cam Newton is Cam Newton again. Last five weeks rushing yardage. Listen to this. 70 yards, 50 yards, 44 yards, 86 yards, 95 yards. Let's take a quarterback, let's take a running back. Let's put them together. Welcome to Cam Newton. That's what you counted on when he was your superstar fantasy quarterback a couple of years ago in 2015. If he is all in on being himself for as long as he can be himself, then you got to be in on Cam Newton start of the week. This week, I'm riding those rushing numbers the baseline so high.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I completely agree. When he runs, that's when he's a fantasy stud. My start of the week, I talked about how much I love him. But Matt Ryan, he gets the Tampa Bay Buccaneers matchup. He's been playing much better. He still kind of has that the early season stench on him where he was very disappointing for fantasy. He was disappointing people in just NFL. The offense, the Atlanta Falcons offense was disappointing as a whole. But the past four games, each of them he has thrown for two touchdowns, essentially 200 yards, even at a 302 game against Carolina. I love Matt Ryan this week.

[Andy Holloway]

For me, it's Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins has been on fire the last two weeks. You might remember Kirk Cousins at the beginning of the year when he was struggling, when he was trying to use his first two.

[Jason Moore]

He starts Slow, man. We got to remember that for next year.

[Mike Wright]

Kirk Cousins stinks.

[Andy Holloway]

In the first two games, in fairness, he had kind of a broken down version of, you know, pass catchers. You had Terrell Pryor, Dumpster fire, you know, the Jordan Reed. Is he playing? Is he not? What's going on with his health now? If you look at the last six games. Okay, last six games is a large sample. He only has one game where he didn't throw for 250 yards, and in that game, it was Seattle and it was 247. So he was really close. Four of those last six games have been over 300 yards passing. In the last two games, he's got three touchdowns in a row.

[Jason Moore]

I believe he's third in the league in yardage.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, he's been. He's been on fire. And now you face the New York Giants. Yes, they gave more effort, but sometimes effort's just not enough when you're bad and they're bad. And they're especially bad against tight end Vernon.

[Jason Moore]

We tell you that all the time with your fantasy team.

[Andy Holloway]

I know you're like, hey, you can try hard, buddy. You'll fail.

[Jason Moore]

That's the kind of.

[Andy Holloway]

And I cry, and then you put me in the cry closet.

[Mike Wright]

You are correct. Kirk Cousins is third, Numero 3, only behind Tom Brady and Russell Wilson.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Another thing you would have missed on the Join the Foot was Mike saying, Umaro Nuno Nuno.

[Andy Holloway]

Like Cam Newton. He wears Umaro Nuno on his jersey.

[Jason Moore]

On his jersey. So it wasn't just Arnold Schwalzeneg.

[Andy Holloway]

It was so bad. We've got to get that out.

[Jason Moore]

We don't really.

[Mike Wright]

There are ways.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you need to, like, just put it at the end of this podcast.

[Jason Moore]

There are ways to get information out.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my. Can you do that? Can you just put that at the very end?

[Jason Moore]

There's no need for that. You're teasing them into jointhefoot.com. you don't want to ruin that tea.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, no, we won't put it in at the end of the show.

[Jason Moore]

Also, don't join our community. All right. Hey, YouTube running back, start of the week. I mentioned him earlier. Alfred Morris. Look, the Chargers are being gashed on the ground. They're 30th against the fantasy football running backs of the league, and they've been whooped recently.

[Mike Wright]

Fantasy football running backs.

[Jason Moore]

That's right. That's what they are of the. This is a Megalodon, man.

[Andy Holloway]

We got it.

[Mike Wright]

You got to keep it together. We still have a Whole half a show to go.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Yeah. He's being gassed. Sean McCoy, they knew he was running last week. I think Alvin Morris, we've seen enough from him. Workload wise, performance wise. And they get Tyron Smith back. So Alfred Morris.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to go with Dion Lewis against Miami. I'm. I'm buying in. I'm buying in that Dion Lewis will be the primary ball carrier. He will get the most touches of the running back position. He looks like Dion Lewis of two years ago. And the matchup, it's the Miami Dolphins. It's an incredible matchup. Another rushing touchdown would not shock me at all. For Dion. We've seen that James White, his usage has been pushed down by Rex Goathead. But meanwhile Dion Lewis continues to get it done. So he's my start of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. For me. I'm going back to Washington. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say you starting all the Redskins.

[Andy Holloway]

We said that earlier. Which is why, you know this almost upset. I really hope you're wrong because it's going to affect my second week.

[Mike Wright]

That doesn't mean that it's a bad fantasy game.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure. Obviously the almost upset last week was New Orleans. They had great fantasy production and you were right there. So they can both work out. But Samaj P. Ryan is. He has to be started. This is one of those like if you've got him, just make sure you're starting him because he's the only cat in town. He's got. You know he had 23 carries last week with Rob Kelly out of the way. You already knew we told you to start him last week. That was before the Chris Thompson injury. With Chris Thompson out of the way.

[Jason Moore]

He'S going to catch the ball a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

In a game script where we at least Mike and I expect Washington and Las Vegas expects Washington to be up by a good margin. Samaj is a must start and the fact that he could be grabbed this morning off waivers, still insane.

[Mike Wright]

And then the wide receiver position. Is that what you're pointing at?

[Jason Moore]

You know what? How dare you go double Washington. I'm going to go Jameson Crowder. My start of the week at the wide receiver position. I think he's one of the beneficiaries of Chris Thompson area.

[Mike Wright]

This is very interesting to me.

[Jason Moore]

He takes on the Giants. He has three straight double digit weeks in a half point per reception league. I think he's figuring out exactly what his role is and they're going to need to lean on him And Vernon Davis with Chris Thompson absent if Kirk Cousins is going to be productive. Cousins, he's going to lean on Crowder.

[Andy Holloway]

So I wanted to ask you, does this mean that if you had Dachshund and Crowder in your lineup, you would start half and full?

[Jason Moore]

I'd play. I'd play Crowder, and then in a standard league, I'd play Dachshund.

[Mike Wright]

So, okay, in the wide receiver, I really wanted my wide receiver start of the week to be Demarious Thomas. But with the news of them officially moving to Paxton lynch as the Denver Broncos starting quarterback, I've shifted over to Manny Sanders. And that those the information from Scott Barrett that I alluded to. Here's the market share breakdown for Manny Sanders. 46.5% of Paxton Lynch's air yards, 35% of his targets, 37% of his yards, and 50% of the touchdowns. So the numbers are still okay, you know, for Demary Thomas, but this evidence leads me to believe that I think Manny Sanders is slightly a better start. And the matchup against the Oakland Raiders is one that hopefully, theoretically, even Paxton lynch can succeed in.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, my, my, my wide receiver start of the week we mentioned earlier, it's Ty Hilton.

[Mike Wright]

I like it. I like this one.

[Andy Holloway]

Ty Hilton is a guy.

[Mike Wright]

You did it, Jason. You finally got me.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'm, I'm a Ty Hilton. Hi, my name is Jason Moore and I'm a Ty Hilton owner. I have been down on him and telling people, you know, I've pumped the brakes on him. I've said, you can't start him last week against Pittsburgh because if you look at what he has done with Jacoby Brissette and you go, well, you got to start your studs. No, you've got. Ty Hilton is one of the guys that has really caught fire in those good matchups and disappeared and hurt you big time. In all the rest this season. He only has three startable games. Just startable. Everything else is literally under seven points in half point PPR. And that 6.9 is like his best game outside of three matchups. He played Cleveland, one of the worst in the beginning of the year, gets the wide receiver put up 7 for 153 and a touchdown. Then you had a game against San Francisco, one of the worst defenses out there, seven for 177. And you had Houston, while they're a great defense against the run, they're horrific against the pass. 5 for 175 and 2. Look, the Tennessee Titans are a bad defense at the wide receiver position.

[Mike Wright]

You're not worried about one for 19.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I'm not. I'm not worried about one for Hilton.

[Mike Wright]

Put up against the Titans earlier in.

[Andy Holloway]

The season on the road in Tennessee, where their defense plays a little bit better. This game at home, I think Ty Hilton is not necessarily a definite must start, but this is the week.

[Jason Moore]

This is the starts of the week. No, no, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, certain weeks, you definitely don't have to start my start of the week. No, we say this all the time on starts, and he's looking like. We don't say this. We're not saying you start him over every possible option that you have. I'm saying that.

[Jason Moore]

I think we try to keep it simple, though, and we just say, look, you start him.

[Andy Holloway]

You do start him. I think he will be about the wide receiver. 15 or 16 in my rankings.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so that's a start. You start him.

[Andy Holloway]

But hey, it just doesn't say, hey, Julio Jones or Ty Hilton. You said Ty Hilton was your start of the week. No.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, because you're like, hey, here's this cheeseburger. Don't eat it. Maybe. Maybe you should know.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, don't eat it.

[Mike Wright]

Don't it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, eat it. Take a bite.

[Mike Wright]

No, spit it out.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, who's the tight end, Andy?

[Jason Moore]

I'm going. Jared Cook. Denver can't defend the tight end. We talked about it earlier. 31st against the tight end. There's, you know, there's the season for Oakland's on the line. I think Jared Cook, he. He's highly targeted. Yeah, I would start him.

[Andy Holloway]

I would as well. Because you've got a Denver defense that's hard to throw on everywhere except tight end.

[Jason Moore]

Jason hates us right now. I think he might hate us.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't hate you guys. I love you guys.

[Mike Wright]

My tight end start of the week, you got to feel the Vern.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

With Vern Davis.

[Andy Holloway]

So we have one Washington Redskin at each position.

[Mike Wright]

That's right. That's right.

[Jason Moore]

On a team that I think might get upset by the Giants, I believe.

[Mike Wright]

In Washington huge in this matchup. And I guess with Jason's logic, I would probably still start Rob Gronkowski over Vernon Davis.

[Andy Holloway]

See?

[Mike Wright]

But other than that, he gets the New York Giants the worst defense against the.

[Jason Moore]

Tyler Jason's going to the tomb, and.

[Mike Wright]

Jordan Reed is not expected to play.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm going to the Tomb. The Tomb Raider, Tyler Croft, Cincinnati Bengals, face up.

[Mike Wright]

He's like the stream. The tight end streamer.

[Jason Moore]

It was Doyle earlier.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it was. Yeah. Tyler Croft, he's got a great matchup. You could Start him against Cleveland. Very similar to the Denver Broncos and New York Giants, those three teams, you start tight ends against them.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, that starts of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

We did it.

[Jason Moore]

Now we're going back into the fantasy forecast. Do I push the button again?

[Mike Wright]

Yes, you do.

[Andy Holloway]

Fantasy Forecast, Part 2.

[Mike Wright]

This time it's personal.

[Jason Moore]

This time it's a lot more games the Panthers take on the jets in. Can we get that air conditioning going, New York? We got a long way to go, guys. 40 point over under. Look, I said Cam Newton's the start of the week. I thought about making McCaffrey just how involved he is. So I like Christian McCaffrey in this game. Look, Greg Olson, are you willing to start in the first week back?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, absolutely. Greg Olson is a monster of a man. And if he says he's ready to play, I expect a full workload and that's. That's targets and see a Muppet or.

[Andy Holloway]

A monster of a man.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, I followed you with the. With the reference.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not sure how you got there, but yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Am I a man or a monster?

[Andy Holloway]

Am I a man or a monster?

[Mike Wright]

Well, Greg Olson's a monster of a man. The question, the biggest question for Greg Olson's return is the impact on Devin S. Scrumptious, because he has certainly been a benefactor of Kelvin Benjamin out of town. Greg Olson on the sideline. Will Scrumptious, AKA Devin Funches, receive the targets that he needs to have a good game? Six targets. Seven. I mean, so he's. He's averaging right around that seven target mark. Will that stay there or will that dip down to an average of 4 or 5?

[Jason Moore]

I'm willing to lean on him again this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You might see, as Andy suspected, that it's Russell Shepard that takes the target hit. If they're going to Greg Olson, but.

[Jason Moore]

We always could be McCaffrey. That takes a little bit of a target hit, too.

[Andy Holloway]

Absolutely. And you always need to keep in mind and remember that a good offensive weapon, he doesn't just steal targets. Sometimes he adds targets to the team because you're picking up drives and you're getting first down. So you can't just say, okay, if he gets seven targets, somebody loses seven targets, it could be better. One of those targets converts a third down into a first down. You get more tries.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. All right. So on the other side, Matt Forte, he is banged up. There's a lot of concern about his health going forward. We don't think he's going to play. Is Blah Powell startable?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think so. Bilal Powell is startable in the right matchup for sure. I like him.

[Jason Moore]

But not against Carolina.

[Andy Holloway]

Not against Carolina. Carolina has been, you know, they're the fourth best team against the rushing against the running back. And so Blal Powell, he's good. He's not great. So maybe a flex in a need if Forte is out. But you still have. I mean it's not like he then just gets everything. You still have him competing with Elijah McGuire for touches.

[Jason Moore]

Those curious.

[Andy Holloway]

Really good defense.

[Jason Moore]

If you're curious about Powell, how many catches do you think he has the last two weeks combined?

[Andy Holloway]

0.

[Jason Moore]

1. He has one catch over the last two weeks.

[Mike Wright]

That's mismanagement.

[Jason Moore]

I mean that's where he's at. 9 point, 7.7 points, 2 points. Last time he played against Tampa, which looked like a great matchup. We all expected that. 10 for 30, only one catch. That's the problem. He used to be. Yeah, he's just checked down. Sally.

[Mike Wright]

Get in the ball. In space. Robbie Anderson. Despite the tougher matchup against the Carolina Panthers defense. I think you have to start wide.

[Jason Moore]

Receiver two, wide receiver three.

[Mike Wright]

Right on the. I'd call him a low end.

[Jason Moore]

Two Stills or Robbie Anderson?

[Mike Wright]

That's a great question. Stills.

[Andy Holloway]

Assuming that Matt Moore wins.

[Jason Moore]

Matt Morris is playing.

[Andy Holloway]

I would go Robbie Anderson.

[Mike Wright]

I would go Anderson too.

[Jason Moore]

Scrumptious versus Anderson, same game.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

I'd go Scrumptious.

[Mike Wright]

I think I would as well.

[Jason Moore]

That the Jason. Who would you go?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think I go Devon S. Scrumptious.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Any other questions on the New York side? Are you willing to start anybody else?

[Mike Wright]

I mean Safari Jenkins is still. He's still in play and he check and always drop it like it's hot. Safari and Jenkins might be on your waiver wire after the bye week.

[Andy Holloway]

Tried to trade for him in our writers league this morning. So. I agree. Austin Safari and Jenkins, he's a good buy low candidate right now. He's still been involved enough to start him.

[Jason Moore]

Let's talk about the Bears taking on the nine and one Eagles in Philadelphia.

[Mike Wright]

Good luck. Chicago.

[Jason Moore]

Thirteen point favorites. The Eagles are. I don't. I don't have any question about them being able to hold up. They're into this equation. You know, the. The Bears have had so many of these close games that you don't expect from them this year. I think everyone expected the bad record. They're three and seven.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. They found a way to lose those close games.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they did. But I think that they played. They've been playing.

[Mike Wright]

That's what losers do so much, find a way to lose when the game is close.

[Andy Holloway]

But I agree with what you're saying.

[Jason Moore]

Trying to give them some more.

[Andy Holloway]

No, they look good.

[Jason Moore]

They actually look Jordan Howard, he's going to be a thousand plus yard rusher again. They were close last week. Trubisky brought him down the field and they just missed a field goal to tie it to.

[Andy Holloway]

Does that make them like they're the almost set of the year or are they hateable, decent?

[Jason Moore]

They're lovable losers. They're losers that you're kind of like, you know, they got a. They're going to be okay. That's how I look at them. Sure, they need weapons. I mean, Trubisky needs weapons.

[Mike Wright]

Well, and speaking of a weapon, as they call him in the, the kids call him, I believe is the human joystick. According to Pro Football Reference, Tariq Cohen, who was an absolute sensation during the early part of the season when they were actually giving him snaps and touches and then they just completely moved away from him.

[Andy Holloway]

But welcome back.

[Mike Wright]

Look at last week. It was the second most snaps of his career.

[Jason Moore]

Nine carries, four receptions.

[Mike Wright]

Again last week, a flying Superman touchdown. I mean, what, what do you make of Tariq Cone? Was this just a flash in the pan or has the team said, hey, maybe this guy who's really good at football, we should give him opportunities?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's, it's tough to trust him. I mean, you know, we recommended cutting him the week before because if you look at his utilization, I mean, he hadn't had more than one reception since week four.

[Mike Wright]

It was the return of Benny Cunningham relegated him to the back of the line.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. And not only that, but so you have one reception since week four and then. Or no more than one, and then you have five touches on the ground in the last three games combined. All of a sudden this last matchup comes out and he has the same snap percentage as Jordan Howard is incredibly involved and it was worth it. So he, to me right now is a pick up and hold because I can't trust him right now. I can't just go, oh, they've decided to go back. Because what if they just decide based on the game plan like they did the previous three weeks?

[Jason Moore]

Legarrett Blunt or Tariq Cohen?

[Andy Holloway]

Ooh, I'd go blunt.

[Mike Wright]

I would go legar Blunt.

[Jason Moore]

Bilal Powell, we just talked about him. Or Tariq Cohen.

[Andy Holloway]

I think I go Powell.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Powell.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just trying to figure it out.

[Mike Wright]

That's Good.

[Jason Moore]

Jordan Howard, locked and loaded. Absolutely no options at the pass catching position.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I mean, those are Dontrell Inman after they acquired him late in the season in that trade. I mean, he, his first game in, he was already the wide receiver one eight targets, 6 for 88 last week, not great, but 3 for 43. And so is there any interest with the Eagles defense? I mean, they're 19th against the wide receiver position, but nope, not for me personally.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, it's kind of like the Deontay Thompson situation in Buffalo where he flashed a little bit, but I just don't, I don't know. Do you answer the question for yourself? Do you think you would play him?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, probably not.

[Jason Moore]

Would you play him over Aguilar on the other side of the field? No, because Aguilar's slowed down a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Even with slowing down, I would still bet on the higher powered offense.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Carson Wentz, locked and loaded. Alison Jeffrey, been scoring. I think he scored in three straight weeks. Zach Ertz, you're going to start him. Jay LeGarrett Blunt, Corey Clement, Mike in the office yesterday, he said, you know, we got this dynasty league that we're in together and we keep starting other players than Corey Clement because it doesn't ever make sense to start Corey Clement. But he keeps scoring and he keeps finding himself involved in the offense.

[Mike Wright]

Is it time to kick your knees up? Climbing time?

[Jason Moore]

I would be all about it if Ajayi didn't just arrive and I felt like maybe they're working him into the.

[Andy Holloway]

Ajay's snap percentage is shocking. If you look, he was like the third, you know, highest. So he was low on the rushing for all the running backs there. He had a very low snap percentage. That leads me to believe that they are still in the process of working.

[Mike Wright]

It was actually a. He had fewer snaps than his first game when with Philadelphia.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, right, because, you know, while, while the beginning of that game was still close, I think halftime was 9 to 7. It quickly escalated out of control in the second half and the, the game.

[Mike Wright]

Against Denver was out of control as well.

[Andy Holloway]

Just for that series.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Blunt had 13 carries.

[Jason Moore]

Ajay had seven last week. Yep. I know it's a mess.

[Andy Holloway]

I went back and I looked, I looked at the, the game log of snap play by play and it really, really was a mess. You had Jay Ajayi take the first snaps on that first drive. You had LeGarrett Blunt come in super early. You had Kenyon Barner come in early and Corey Clement all four will be involved. So it's tough, but you have such a good offensive line and a good offense where I think you can start these guys. But the Bears are not a great matchup.

[Jason Moore]

It's interesting that the best two teams in football right now have the least defined running back situations. Between the Patriots and the Eagles. Yeah, they both have a four, you know, three, four headed monster in the backfield.

[Mike Wright]

The thing with. At least you can feel confident that Lewis is kind of that the Grinder right now.

[Jason Moore]

Right now.

[Mike Wright]

Right now. But when you have a.

[Jason Moore]

Don't forget your turducken.

[Mike Wright]

When you have a job.

[Jason Moore]

That was sweet potato casserole.

[Mike Wright]

Ajay and Legara Blunt, who essentially do the exact same thing. That is really rough for fantasy.

[Jason Moore]

The Eagles defense. They've hit the opposing quarterback on 12.3% of plays. That's the highest in the league. They're my favorite defense.

[Mike Wright]

Good luck, Mitch.

[Jason Moore]

They're my favorite defense this week. All right, Seahawks, you lost a close one. Why don't you play the 49ers, travel into San Francisco, take on the 49ers this week. Russell Wilson.

[Andy Holloway]

Russell. Russell. Russell.

[Jason Moore]

Some people don't. I think now it's the Megalodon episode. Tell him why his name is like.

[Andy Holloway]

That one of us made.

[Jason Moore]

There are a lot of those inside jokes people don't always understand.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it was you, Mike, that pronounced it kind of like that one day on accident. And it reminded me of the double dribble.

[Jason Moore]

Double dribble.

[Andy Holloway]

Which Shout out to double dribble.

[Mike Wright]

The NES Classic.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And so it just stuck.

[Jason Moore]

Russell Wilson.

[Andy Holloway]

Russell Wilson.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so Russell Wilson. It's a no brainer. He's great. You're starting him.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Doug Baldwin. No brainer. He's great. You're starting him. And Jimmy Graham's been on fire lately. 49ers defense has been bad.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. But you want to hear what would be nuts if there was a Mike's almost upset of the week. This would actually be it. Yeah, it would. Because it's just. It's a divisional game. It's San Francisco at home.

[Jason Moore]

I had a little twinge. You thought about making a second one because. So I might be with you on that.

[Mike Wright]

Seattle just does this in division. When they're on the road against lowly opponents, they often forget to show up. Not that I'm still playing them all for fantasy purposes. I'm just Simply talking real NFL.

[Jason Moore]

In week two, the Seahawks beat the 49ers in Seattle 12 to 9.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly. Exactly. And now they're on the road. But like you said, Russell, all the.

[Jason Moore]

Starts stay the same. J.D. mcKissick talked about him yesterday. Yeah, start smooches. McKissick. All right. I'd put him out there over Paul Powell, for example.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Would you guys agree with that in a ppr?

[Mike Wright]

Certainly I can agree.

[Jason Moore]

What about a point per smooch?

[Andy Holloway]

League point. Point per smooches. I think he's number one.

[Jason Moore]

Would you play him in a standard point per smooches?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Not just ppr, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, if it's a standard. If I don't get anything for receptions but I get a point for every smooch referenced then he's.

[Mike Wright]

If people could have seen our slack chat during the game on Monday night.

[Andy Holloway]

We're just the amount of kiss emojis and lip emojis innumerable.

[Jason Moore]

He came through.

[Mike Wright]

We're ridiculous.

[Jason Moore]

All right, pick one. Paul Richardson. Tyler Lockett.

[Andy Holloway]

Paul Richardson.

[Mike Wright]

Richardson.

[Jason Moore]

Richard.

[Andy Holloway]

Turn.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Me too. The 49ers.

[Andy Holloway]

Marcus. Good one.

[Jason Moore]

Who's going to run the ball?

[Mike Wright]

It's Carlos Hyde and also I don't care about this. The fifth ranked against running backs for fantasy the Seahawks defense. I don't care. Carlos Hyde dominated them on the road last time. Carlos Hyde is a great running back and you play him every week.

[Jason Moore]

Can you dominate from the bench? He's not burritos getting snapped.

[Andy Holloway]

He's not going to be 15 carries. Last week Matt Burrida got, you know, he looked good and he'll get be involved but last week 17 carries. Hasn't had fewer than 12 carries since week six. So Carlos Hyde is absolutely the starter. He is being used like that sometimes when you see another guy like Matt Breida come up and have good games.

[Mike Wright]

Breida is also.

[Andy Holloway]

You assume that they've come at the expense of the starter.

[Jason Moore]

By the way they were by last week. So you're going back two weeks for the 49ers. But I get what you're saying and I agree with you. I just Naborita just ends up having these weird games here and there.

[Mike Wright]

Gets touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Marcus Goodwin, the good 83 yards receiving, the bad one reception.

[Mike Wright]

I would play him.

[Jason Moore]

Would you play him over DeSean Jackson this week?

[Mike Wright]

Ooh, that's an interesting question and I think I would. I think I would.

[Jason Moore]

That my guy asking for a friend.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, my gut is telling me I haven't completed the the final rankings but I think that I would.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, Jason, what do you think? Cool.

[Andy Holloway]

I would trying to think I would lean with the vet here but that should Show. So I would go with desean Jackson over. Good. But that's the area where Goodwin is startable. Even in this matchup against Seattle, which usually, you know, strikes fear into people. The Foot Clan is aware of the injuries that Seattle has sustained to their secondary. I think you can. You can start both of these guys.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Welcome to the tougher part of the Rams schedule. Last week they had Minnesota. This week they have to play the Saints, who are on fire. And they play them at home, 53 and a half point over, under.

[Andy Holloway]

And I was shocked to see the Rams favored at home. I mean, they've been a great team this year, but the Saints have been stomping in.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the Saints have been stomping in.

[Mike Wright]

Stomping in.

[Jason Moore]

It's really.

[Mike Wright]

It's a good song. It's a good ditty.

[Jason Moore]

I was hoping Mike would finish it out, but.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, and the Saints grow much in him.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Megalodon.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

You start losing your mind a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, with the 53.

[Jason Moore]

When did the IVs get here? Brooks, can you roll in the IV with the.

[Andy Holloway]

Look under your feathers?

[Jason Moore]

Oreos are down there.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm never leaving.

[Jason Moore]

Did you see. Pause, pause, pause. Yesterday I was at the Target.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, very fancy.

[Jason Moore]

And, man, they've got the Oreo. Game is just. There's throwing everything out there. I saw. So you got the white chocolate covered Oreos, which are the best. But they've got them.

[Andy Holloway]

They are literally the best.

[Jason Moore]

They are so incredibly good.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man, Mike, I'm gonna punch you. I was not angry at the starts of the week area, but, like, look, if you don't like them, that's fine. Shut your mouth.

[Mike Wright]

Nope, I will not.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my gosh.

[Mike Wright]

I will not. I will not.

[Andy Holloway]

That's gonna be what breaks up the fancy.

[Mike Wright]

I will not allow big white chocolate to infiltrate this area.

[Jason Moore]

Big white chocolate.

[Mike Wright]

It's a conspiracy.

[Jason Moore]

Did you just knock something down? Yeah, he.

[Mike Wright]

Odell Beckham. I mean, you're just way to stomp on the people who are already down. But white chocolate, this is. It's a conspiracy against the world.

[Andy Holloway]

Really?

[Mike Wright]

That white chocolate is good? Because it is, in fact, not.

[Jason Moore]

Well, Mike is losing fans.

[Mike Wright]

That's fine.

[Andy Holloway]

You better lose fans. All right, if you. Oh, this is stupid.

[Jason Moore]

Let me move on. It's like a white point. First of all, they're holidaying those up and they're out there and they're advertising them. And I. I saw them after I paid, and I still almost went back through the line, but I didn't but they have hot chocolate Oreos. Hot chocolate Oreos that are coming out.

[Mike Wright]

What is the difference between a hot chocolate Oreo and a regular?

[Jason Moore]

From what I could tell. From what I could tell, there was a chocolate cookie on the top, like a normal dark chocolate cookie. Then there was a brown chocolate cookie on the bottom. Then I'm guessing the cream is a little more marshmallowy.

[Mike Wright]

Is there, like, Swiss Miss sprinkles on there?

[Jason Moore]

I don't know, man. And then they also had cookie butter ones.

[Mike Wright]

Or do they say you. They're like, okay, now that you've opened the package, throw in microwave for 30 seconds.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

Well, we need to know Jason's.

[Andy Holloway]

I am genuinely. Until white chocolate sucks. This is white fudge. This is white fudge covered Oreos.

[Jason Moore]

Do you like them cold? Do you, like, put them in the.

[Mike Wright]

I'll go there. White fudge sucks.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man. Do you want a ruling from the judge? Yes. Oh, yes. Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Give me a. Oh, we're gonna go to court.

[Andy Holloway]

The fantasy court Brooks, Judge Giamatti, the.

[Jason Moore]

Plaintiff, Mike the fantasy hitman Ride, is accusing the defendant, Jason Moore, of excessive love of Whitefoot. How do you plead, Jason?

[Andy Holloway]

I plead guilty, as I should be.

[Jason Moore]

Make your case, guys.

[Andy Holloway]

I already did.

[Jason Moore]

Make it quick.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's the case. It's a holiday special that comes out every year. It treats people with the magical flavor of white chocolate. It's unbelievably good. If you actually have it with milk, which seems weird at the beginning, you're gonna find out that it's another level to life. And I rest my case.

[Jason Moore]

Another level to life. That is a compelling argument.

[Mike Wright]

It's too sweet and it's terrible. All right, I need a ruling from the judge.

[Andy Holloway]

A rule in favor of Mike. Yeah, yeah. Eat it. Eat it.

[Mike Wright]

And not eat white fudge, because that stinks.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my goodness. Well, this is our last show. We're done as a company.

[Andy Holloway]

Ask Mike if he would like a room.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I know, I know.

[Jason Moore]

Brooks is fired. Brooks has been fired. Mike. Jason is done. All right. I think we were talking about. I think we were talking about the safe.

[Andy Holloway]

Brooks, you. We're not friends.

[Jason Moore]

You've been. Brooks trade.

[Mike Wright]

He's mega ladon. Yep.

[Jason Moore]

I think we're talking about the Saints and the Rams. Guys, you want to continue?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, let's.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

You're not sitting Gurley. Gurley's gonna play.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

You're not sitting the number one and number two running backs lately. Kamara Ingram.

[Mike Wright]

Correct.

[Jason Moore]

Not sitting Thomas or Breeze?

[Mike Wright]

Is Jason faced away from me now?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, he is. I never engaged with you on this show. What's up, dude? I love White Chocolate.

[Andy Holloway]

Just me and you, Andy. Yeah. All right.

[Jason Moore]

Let's talk about Williams.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Jason Williams.

[Jason Moore]

White chocolate. All right. Cooper cup or Sammy Watkins Cup?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I think you got to rely on cup. Cup seems to you two are agreeing. Who?

[Jason Moore]

You and Mike?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't see anybody else. Cooper cup plays more of the same type of role that Robert woods has done. Sammy Watkins has been using that field stretching, never target him role. And so I do think that cup is the actual beneficiary here when it comes to the woods targets. However, I think both players are that being Watkins and Kupp are startable assets this week.

[Jason Moore]

He's creeping me out. He's just staring right at me the whole time. People want to know, can they roll Jared Goff back out there?

[Mike Wright]

I would.

[Jason Moore]

I try to avoid it.

[Mike Wright]

If I try to avoid it, his splits against top defense, it's. It's not good. And now you've lost Robert woods for a couple weeks. I would prefer not.

[Jason Moore]

Kobe Fleener surprised last week. Is he a streamable option?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

You talk a lot about Tyler Croft and Austin Hooper and Hunter Henry. I don't buy into it.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't buy into it at all.

[Jason Moore]

You of all people.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, I know his nickname.

[Jason Moore]

Was White Chocolate as well.

[Andy Holloway]

I've been the, you know, resident Kobe Fleener apologist here, and I'm happy he had a great week. And if there is another team out there that perhaps could get up into a big lead on the Saints that we've seen the Rams do that to teams that we don't expect them to. But losing Robert Woods, I believe, does matter. They are at home. But last week, the Washington Redskins got out to a big lead, a lead that we assumed the game was over. And when they had to come back and just throw the ball like crazy, I mean, you look at Mark Ingram had a great game last week. He only had 11 carries, but he still was the primary ball carrier. That's how much they threw the ball. And if they're in that situation against the Rams, sure, Kobe Fleener will be okay. But I don't expect the Rams without Robert woods to be able to get out to a big lead. I mean, we just, you know, in agreement said that we don't think we would prefer to start Jared Goff this week.

[Jason Moore]

I like that they're home. I think it'll be a competitive game. I'm not going to be surprised if they win it. But real quick, mailbag question from Andrew in Louisville. Should I start Breeze or Goff or pick up Dalton?

[Andy Holloway]

Breeze.

[Mike Wright]

Interesting.

[Jason Moore]

I think I might play Dalton. It's not like Breeze to me. Breeze has not earned himself auto start this year. He's around the 12th best quarterback. So I'm going to go Dalton against Cleveland.

[Mike Wright]

I thought. I think I'm. I'm okay going with Dalton. You have the Rams. Who.

[Andy Holloway]

They're.

[Mike Wright]

They're the fifth best. They're seventh best against. Sorry. Fifth best against the quarterback. Seventh best against the wide receiver. I mean, I expect Mark Ingram and Camara to be dominant forces and we could see another situation of the Saints just completely leaning on the run.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean that. That is a reality with how the Los Angeles Rams.

[Jason Moore]

You gotta have some red courage to start Andy Dalton.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

All right. The Jaguars red curriculum. They take on the Arizona Cardinals in Arizona. Jacksonville 73 right now.

[Mike Wright]

Blonde bombshell time.

[Jason Moore]

Nothing like Blaine Gabbard and Blake Bortles in the same game together. Blaine Gabber getting the start again.

[Mike Wright]

I feel like I need that Spider man meme.

[Jason Moore]

I told you guys this week I'm the most worried about Adrian Peterson in terms of relying on him for the playoff run because you just don't know when a good game versus a bad game is going to happen. I thought we'd see better from him. Last week against Houston, we didn't. Now you've got to take on Jacksonville. And while Jacksonville's defense is insanely good, I think they're running and rushing defense. They're only middle of the pack because they would choose to be. I mean, it's when you defend the pass so well that all your opponent can do is run the ball, your totals are going to be higher.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Than how you. How good you are at stopping it. I think they realize that. Look, Arizona, they want to put it on Blaine Gabbert, not Adrian Peterson. I'm not very excited about anybody in this game other than the fact that Larry Fitzgerald's home splits are so good and he lines up in the slot more. So maybe he avoids AJ Bouillet and Jalen Ramsey. What do you guys think? What's the headline for you in this game? Are you avoiding Cardinals?

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to play Fitz like you said. Home game. Do you want to play the number one tight end from last week?

[Andy Holloway]

No, no.

[Jason Moore]

Ricky Seals. Jones.

[Mike Wright]

Jones.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I was just trying to get you to.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you can't play him, but do. Are you interested at all In Big Gresh with. No. There was. There was success to the tight end position last week. It just was not Big Gresh.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's. That's why I wouldn't start him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's really tough. I'm not even sure I love Larry Fitzgerald in this game.

[Mike Wright]

I don't love him. I just would. I'd be willing to start him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's tough.

[Mike Wright]

He's a start of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

And the. And the Jacksonville. And the Jacksonville Jaguars, since they made that trade with Buffalo, they've been very good against the run. So Adrian Peterson. I'm avoiding every single Cardinal. Other than, you know, if you need to flex in Larry.

[Jason Moore]

You're avoiding Larry. Wide receiver four.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I said other than if you need to flex in Larry, I'm okay.

[Jason Moore]

But everybody else, I guess I'm coming off of a week where I pumped the brakes on Larry and he proved me wrong. Blake Bortles against the Arizona defense. You want any piece of that?

[Mike Wright]

Maybe.

[Andy Holloway]

It's.

[Mike Wright]

It's definitely interesting.

[Jason Moore]

You want it. Is he a, you know, 12 to 15 guy? Do you want Tyrod Taylor or Blake Bortles?

[Andy Holloway]

Tyrod Taylor for sure.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I think it's Taylor, but that, you know, like 14 to 16 range. So a possible golf.

[Jason Moore]

Golf. Bortles.

[Andy Holloway]

I would take golf. I mean, that.

[Mike Wright]

Man, I think I would take Bortles.

[Andy Holloway]

The over under in Arizona is only 38 points.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And I think if you look at that 38 points, the percentage chance that 7 to 14 of those points are scored by Jacksonville's defense is pretty good. So I just don't see a lot of fantasy upside here. I'm going to start Leonard Fournette, if I have him.

[Jason Moore]

No doubt.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, Larry, if I need to. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I think you go golf versus bortles because you've got Vegas seeing 54 points out of that game, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Jason Moore]

All right. The Raiders, they take on the Broncos. The Raiders are at home in this game. I talked about Jared Cook earlier. Start of the week. Paxton lynch gets the start in Denver. We've actually talked a lot about the Denver side of this equation at the running back position. Booker or C.J. anderson.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

Let's say you got both of these guys. You got to pick one. Where you. Where are you leaning? The Raiders are right now 27th against fantasy running backs, giving up 23.1 points per game. They also stink against quarterbacks and tight ends.

[Andy Holloway]

So we saw. You know, it's funny, we said, oh, man, if this could only be a two headed monster and Booker and C.J. anderson.

[Mike Wright]

Worm.

[Andy Holloway]

Two headed worm.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Booker and C.J. anderson would both be valuable. Well, that's basically what we saw last week. You know, Jamal Charles was not used and Devontae Booker became the primary 4.9%.

[Mike Wright]

Of snaps this week for Jamal Charles.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. And so, you know, in this matchup, because it is an easier matchup, I think I still lean with CJ Anderson. That being said, I don't blame anyone, especially look, if I'm in a full ppr, then I would much rather rely on the baseline of Booker.

[Jason Moore]

Mike prefers Emmanuel Sanders over demarius Thomas. This week gave those reasons. With Paxton lynch and his history, this is a wait and see week with Paxton lynch too. I mean, just seeing what you have in this offense. What can improve with the new offensive coordinator and new quarterback? All right, Derek Carr, Lynch, Crabtree and Cooper. What are we doing, guys? This, this Broncos defense, they're not the same, but they're still fantasy points. You know, they're only giving up the fourth least in the league. But they give up touchdowns. They do give up touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they do. They have this like freakish thing where they don't give up yards, but they give up touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Break but don't bend. They call it nice.

[Mike Wright]

I don't really want to play any Crabtree. I like Jared Cook.

[Jason Moore]

Crabtree kind of got back on. And for those of you who are a little disappointed by him, the target counts. Last week were there?

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

He got back up to the double digit targets, but only ended the game six for 51.

[Jason Moore]

No touchdown, hasn't scored in a little while. Three weeks.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Crabtree is fine as a two. I don't love it. I don't think that there's tremendous upside, but I do not want to play car.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And my original pump the brakes was actually not Alex Collins. It was Marshawn Lynch. He's had more involvement over his last two games and has been. Okay. This just doesn't appear to me to be the matchup that I want to bank on against Denver, who's been really good against the run in all but one game.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, speaking to the Broncos defense, 22 touchdowns tied for most in the NFL. That's what they've given up. 22 touchdown passes. Didn't they have a season where they barely gave up any on the whole year? Like two or three?

[Andy Holloway]

Part of that. And when we talk about the break don't bend offense, where they're giving up touchdowns but not yards, that's actually a Field position problem based on their offense.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Their quarterback has been so bad, throwing interceptions, putting up guys in position to where it's like, oh, I start in the red zone. This is very nice. And Paxton lynch is not. I don't expect him to fix the problems. If anybody is going to fix the problems here for the Denver offense, it will only be the Oakland defense.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not sure there was a more disappointed and sad place in America than Lambeau Field last week. The packers were shut out at home and now they get to travel to Pittsburgh and play the Steelers.

[Mike Wright]

Good luck.

[Jason Moore]

You've got some big underdogs this week. The Steelers are 14 point. I'm surprised that small 14 point favorites, 41 1/2 point over under. That's basically saying we they believe that the packers defense is going to do enough to keep Pittsburgh under control. Do you guys believe that's the case or are you starting everybody in on Pittsburgh?

[Mike Wright]

I would start. Yeah. I mean this, this is a calling, calling all cars situation for Pittsburgh. I'll stream Big Ben at home in a plus match. Of of course, Lev and Brown are automatically in. And then because the matchup is excellent, I'm willing to play juju. Although, do you have. Do you have any concerns of. Of playing juju for fantasy purposes? Since he has tiny hamstrings, I don't.

[Jason Moore]

Think he has earned an auto start situation. So I'd be looking at a couple other options on my team. I mean, I can give you some ideas and you guys can tell me.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean if I was the Steelers and you've got a hamstring that hamstrings only get better with rest. There's only one, you know, there's no, like, hey, take this pill for your hamstring type situation and you're playing against the packers at home. I would lean towards just.

[Jason Moore]

You can't just eat like ham.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It'll grow your hamstring.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just asking, man.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't. I don't believe so, but it is Thanksgiving, so it's worth. Let me write.

[Jason Moore]

Would you rather play Kenny Stills this week with more confidence than you would juju?

[Andy Holloway]

No. If juju is active for me funches, I'd go funchus. I would go funchus.

[Jason Moore]

Stefan Diggs.

[Mike Wright]

Diggs.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Paul Richardson.

[Andy Holloway]

No. That's tough. That's close.

[Jason Moore]

Rashard Matthews.

[Mike Wright]

Matthews.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. All right. That helps the Packers. Wow. Okay. Where are we? What planet is this?

[Andy Holloway]

Devonte Adams has been the clear leading wide receiver. He is the first read. He's the primary Target.

[Jason Moore]

It's because his volume is there that the lack of red zone, you know, opportunities, doesn't matter. Right. So he's a PPR asset in spite of the fact that they can't score.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I still don't love him in this matchup because Pittsburgh is very good, but Baltimore, last week, another very good defense against wide receivers, and there were just so many targets. It's kind of like what we've been seeing with DeAndre Hopkins. You know, he's getting so many targets that even though they're not quality targets, it works out for him and I. So if you need to start devonte Adams, I'd be willing. Jamal Williams.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Ty Montgomery is out. You start him outside.

[Mike Wright]

Even if Montgomery plays, I would still play Jamal Williams. He's averaging 19 carries a game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Since his opportunity.

[Jason Moore]

And he's going to catch a few passes.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

Outside of those two, I don't think you could start. You can't start Jordy. No, can't start. Cobb, do you consider Hunley.

[Jason Moore]

Do you consider like a really, like a vicious bench of Jordy Nelson? Like you just push the button really hard, put him on your bench, like, take it out on him.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I don't have him on my roster. He's a perfect landmine. I mean, because if you drop him, if Jordy's out there, someone's going to pick him up and they might play him. And, you know, that's not to say Jordy won't have another good game rest of season, but. But are you going to have that in your lineup? No, you're probably going to get that on your bench.

[Jason Moore]

Man, Jordy. Poor Jordy. Monday Night Football Houston Texans, Baltimore Ravens, Ravens at home, Ravens are seven point favorites and the game is only projected 38 points. Not a lot to be excited about in this situation.

[Mike Wright]

I'm very excited for my Ravens DST.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, that's really it. DeAndre Hopkins, he has earned the every week, no matter what situation. Three games without deshaun Watson, three games in double digits. I think three games of scores. At least two of them. You disagree with me on that one?

[Mike Wright]

No, I don't disagree that you start him, but I still. I still have my hesitation.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I want to disagree with you. I do. I mean, everything in me says scored.

[Mike Wright]

In two of the three games.

[Andy Holloway]

Everything in me says that, you know, he's got such a bad quarterback and such a bad matchup here, but I.

[Jason Moore]

Would say the matchup was worth last week with Patrick Peterson literally following him all over the field.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but I think you have a. You have a far more complete defense instead of just relying on the shutdown corner, which you know. And Hopkins. I guess this is just the glass half full how you want to look at it, because Hopkins did succeed.

[Andy Holloway]

But was.

[Jason Moore]

Would you advise anybody to sit him this week?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I wouldn't. And if you look at the argument I just made about devonte Adams relating it to Hopkins last week, Devonte Adams played against this Baltimore Ravens defense and was fine because of the target volume. So, yes, you're going to start Hopkins, but I see him more as a wide receiver too this week.

[Jason Moore]

All right. On the other side of the ball, you had the Mike Wallace game last week. Is anybody piggybacking that, trying to get him out there?

[Mike Wright]

No, but. But Jeremy Macklin is.

[Jason Moore]

You'd be more interested in Macklin, huh?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

What did Macklin do last week?

[Andy Holloway]

He was five targets.

[Mike Wright]

He was pretty four for 34.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, but you'd play him over Wallace?

[Mike Wright]

I would.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not gonna lean into the touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

The Texans are really bad against wide receivers. I mean, their rushing defense is so good that you pretty much have to throw the ball and then you find success there and you go, yeah, let's. Let's not do that running thing anymore.

[Mike Wright]

Do you have any interest in streaming Ben Watson? It was bad last week. Only one catch for 33 yards. But we're two weeks, two games removed from 10 targets for Ben Watson.

[Andy Holloway]

I think you're going to see what.

[Jason Moore]

You saw with Danny Woodhead says no.

[Andy Holloway]

This is like Dennis hit a light. And if you remember Dennis Petta last year, that wasn't that good. Even though he led tight ends in receptions, it still wasn't valuable. If you're in a full PPR league, then maybe you can try to get six total points out of him.

[Jason Moore]

But I would flex Danny Woodhead. This. I feel totally comfortable at home doing that second week back. I think they want to use them all over the field. Their weapons are limited. That's why I don't like Watson. I'm all about Danny Wood. I think he's going to end up as a running back to this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, I love Woodhead in general. Like he's a guy I think is going to win people championships over the next few weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you've got to start now. Why don't you start winning now, Danny?

[Andy Holloway]

It's a really tough matchup there, but oh, Danny boy.

[Jason Moore]

Now I'm just picturing that movie in.

[Andy Holloway]

My head and Mike Wallace might be a Sneaky play here.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he might. Lamar Miller, you'd prefer Macklin, right?

[Andy Holloway]

I would prefer Macklin, yes.

[Jason Moore]

Lamar Miller, he's starting. And then you're not messing with Bruce Ellington this week after the good week last week?

[Mike Wright]

Nope.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, guys, we made it through all the matchups, but there's still more good stuff on the Megalodon.

[Mike Wright]

Megalod.

[Jason Moore]

Don't stop Megalod.

[Andy Holloway]

Can't stop. The daily dose brought to you by Draft.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to Thanksgiving.

[Mike Wright]

We're doing. We're doing a Thanksgiving edition of draft. So we will be only selecting players from the three game pool that we.

[Jason Moore]

Get to watch tomorrow.

[Andy Holloway]

Absolutely.

[Mike Wright]

This is going to be fantastic. And my favorite part of this right now is if you look at the quarterback position, Matthew Stafford has been replaced. His avatar his an actual turkey.

[Andy Holloway]

Good job. Draft.

[Jason Moore]

Wow, that's impressive. This is going to be fun though. This will be three great games tomorrow. Jason gets to start out. We pick five players head to head and you know, the loser has to apparently maybe Mike has to eat a. You know what? That's what we're going to do.

[Mike Wright]

I have to eat Thanksgiving.

[Jason Moore]

No, you have to eat a white chocolate Oreo.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, dude, that is not a punishment.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you don't get so until about this still Jason.

[Mike Wright]

Well, tilt through your first pick.

[Jason Moore]

I tweeted it's your pick, buddy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's my pick. All right. I'm on the clock. I guess I'll do that. I was hoping I got the number one pick because I'm taking Melvin Gordon.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

Interesting.

[Jason Moore]

All right, all right. Going Melvin Gordon. I see it. I understand. But I'm going to jump. I'm going to jump right into the quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's what I was.

[Jason Moore]

Was problem is you're not going to take two quarterbacks because you can't. So there's no need for me. I have two guys that I'm okay with.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, nice strategy. Kirk Cousins.

[Jason Moore]

I'm gonna just take some aje.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, all right. He's going with Samaj ap Ryan. I'm gonna go.

[Andy Holloway]

He's like, oh, that's. That's Jason. Start of the week.

[Jason Moore]

Actually panicked a little bit because I got down to like five seconds.

[Mike Wright]

I'm gonna take elite wide receiver one Adam Thielen.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Against Detroit because I do not mind that at all. And then I'm going to follow that.

[Andy Holloway]

Up with Kirk Cousins.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I almost took Cousins with the first pick at this point. Now you're staring down Dak and Philip Rivers. I'm probably going to let Jason make that decision for me. And so in this case, I'm going to go with another running back. I'm actually going to take Jerick McKinnon.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I'm so happy about that because there was a guy I wanted and it was your start of the week and it was a running back. I'm taking Alfred Morris.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, and I'm back on the clock. So that's how it works. I agree.

[Jason Moore]

Same with drafts 101.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I do agree with the logic of letting Mike pick my quarterback because I don't really have a huge preference there. So I am going to go with the pump the brakes from Andy and Keenan Allen that I disagree with. I think he's going to be just fine.

[Jason Moore]

All right. All right. I'm actually going to roll back through here. I haven't done this before. I'm taking a tight end. I'm going Evan Ingram, pass catcher.

[Andy Holloway]

Ooh.

[Mike Wright]

I'm actually a little sad that I did not take Alfred Morris. The running back Pickens is slim. So I'm just going to take the. I'm on the corner. So I'm going to take the best two options available. And Orleans Darkwa and Latavius Murray.

[Jason Moore]

Very fair.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to double up. I'm going to complete that running back position. So I'm not starting trash.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I'm going to. I'm going to bank on the bigger game from Mr. Stefan Diggs. I'm going to throw his upside in there. Jason, you got a couple picks. You're going to have to pick a quarterback. And then I'm going to get the leftover.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Because I don't care if I get Dak, Philip Rivers or Stafford or Keenum.

[Andy Holloway]

So there's a lot of decent options. I'm actually going to go with the tight end position. Dig a little deeper because I know, Mike, I know you're feeling the Vern.

[Mike Wright]

I am.

[Andy Holloway]

But you don't get him. I'm going to take Vernon Davis here and at the quarterback position. It's really tough between Matthew Stafford, Dak Prescott, Philip Rivers. All three guys, I think could have great weeks. We don't know about Dak Prescott yet. Matthew Stafford's usually great on Turkey Day, so I'm going to kind of split the difference and take a guy. I think he might not have the best upside, but he won't disappoint.

[Jason Moore]

It would have been my pick.

[Andy Holloway]

And I'll take Philip Rivers.

[Jason Moore]

I will take the Dak Prescott and hopeful upside there just because I think he's better than going keenum and waiting, but maybe not.

[Mike Wright]

A draft is half point ppr. So there's some PPR guys left, you know, Golden Tate, Andy. Start of the week, Jameson Crowder.

[Jason Moore]

Is it hard for you to see Des Bryant's name on that list still?

[Mike Wright]

It certainly is. But I'm going to double stuff here because I'll play to win, baby.

[Jason Moore]

Who'd you go with?

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to go with Josh Dockson.

[Jason Moore]

Why don't you read your team back?

[Mike Wright]

I believe in the breakout the Turkey Day draft. I'm going to go with Kirk Cousins, Orleans Darkwell, Latavius Murray, Adam Thielen, Josh Dachshund.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, I have dak Prescott, smash AP Ryan, Jerick McKinnon, Evan Ingram and Stefan Diggs. I feel like I'm either going to win or lose terribly.

[Mike Wright]

And a lot of play to win.

[Jason Moore]

Polarity.

[Andy Holloway]

And I did not realize that I have three Chargers. I'm really bacon on Philip Rivers, Melvin Gordon, Keenan Allen. Go Chargers.

[Jason Moore]

You can join.

[Andy Holloway]

I've got Alfred Morris and Vernon Davis alongside my charger.

[Jason Moore]

You can. You can join various tournaments on Draft.com Ballers Stretchy Pants Tournament, the Thanksgiving and receiving two tournament, the Turkey Trot Tournament, the Mashed Potato Tournament.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's fun.

[Jason Moore]

The puns and names never stop, but you can have a lot of fun. We're going to compete, Mike. I want to see. You have to eat white chocolate Oreos.

[Andy Holloway]

So I put a tweet out there during the show because I was just so angry.

[Mike Wright]

You did it mid show.

[Andy Holloway]

You know it. So I put a poll out there. White chocolate covered Oreos. The options were great or awful. I'm super stupid. And I see.

[Mike Wright]

Leading the witness.

[Andy Holloway]

You're darn right I am. I'm trying to help the people. That's why we're here. We're here to help people make good decisions.

[Mike Wright]

But if it's actually so good, you wouldn't need to help people.

[Andy Holloway]

And 38% of people think it's awful. And they are super stupid. Whoa. I'm so disappointed.

[Mike Wright]

That's a high percentage.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a huge.

[Jason Moore]

Do you think that they just wanted to be stupid?

[Andy Holloway]

5.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe those are just stupid people.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, maybe. I mean, they voted finally. If I just said awful, they wouldn't have voted.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's. You're gonna have to deal with some demons after this.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going straight from here to, like, Target.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Getting some white fudge.

[Jason Moore]

If you made it this far.

[Mike Wright]

Fuzzy wigs.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, if you made it this far. In the show.

[Andy Holloway]

Wait, we need that horn.

[Jason Moore]

We got a little something special. We have a secret hashtag. We want to see it on Twitter. If we see it on Twitter. You're entered to win a hundred dollar gift card to shopballers.com. you are the fan of the fan. You are the champion of Thanksgiving.

[Andy Holloway]

You made it through the Megalodon.

[Jason Moore]

Megalodon. The hashtag Is hashtag mega stuff17.

[Andy Holloway]

Two Fs.

[Jason Moore]

Mega stuff17. Let us know that you finished the Megalon episode. Throw that hashtag in there. You'll be entered to win some sweet, sweet fantasy footballers gear. All sorts of stuff. You can get [e-mail] 100 bucks goes to a randomly selected winner in that group. And I'm telling you, I can't wait to see all the Megala finishers.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Use that.

[Mike Wright]

And did you say tweet at us with it?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, if.

[Andy Holloway]

So long as they use the actual hashtag. Yeah. We'll be able to pound symbol then we'll find.

[Mike Wright]

I guess so.

[Jason Moore]

You ever used the old Twitter mic?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I just wanted to make sure.

[Jason Moore]

It wasn't verified over here so we.

[Andy Holloway]

Can teach you mega stuff 17. Don't forget DFS 10. Is that what the code is?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, if you wanted the $10. DFS pass. DFS pass.com Thanksgiving DFS10.

[Mike Wright]

A lot of reminders. Show was huge.

[Jason Moore]

You can go to YouTube and check out the customized fantasy football jerseys from FantasyChamps.com and use the code CHAMPS. Free US shipping on [e-mail] I remember years ago.

[Andy Holloway]

This is before we ever had the fantasy footballers. Andy, you talking about someone someday needs to make basically where you can customize your fantasy football team like jersey. They read your old brain.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, my old brain.

[Andy Holloway]

And they did it. This is I will never draft not in my own jersey again.

[Jason Moore]

Good luck to you in week 12. Hope you have some success this week. Hope you have a wonderful, awesome holiday with your families. And hopefully I come back on Monday and am still undefeated in our Dynasty league. Last little thing for the day. I want to hear it. Brooks favorite Thanksgiving food is mashed potatoes. Mashed potatoes. Brooks. Mike, your favorite Thanksgiving food is I.

[Mike Wright]

Don'T know if it's the ultimate cheeseburger or the curly fries from Jack in the Box.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Jason, favorite Thanksgiving day meal or food?

[Andy Holloway]

The ham dipped in the mashed potatoes with a little bit of stuffing on top.

[Jason Moore]

I will allow you of all people to mix things together.

[Mike Wright]

Jason, do you use utensils?

[Andy Holloway]

I do. I've got a little tiny shovel.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going with the pumpkin pie. Thank you so much for listening. You guys are amazing. Thanks for the support, America.

[Mike Wright]

See you on Monday.

[Andy Holloway]

Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Join our fantasy football community on JoinTheFoot.com and follow us on Twitter @The FF Ballers.

[Jason Moore]

I'm on a Schwarzenegger.