Fantasy Football 2017 - This or That Decisions + AFC East Breakdown

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary Episode: Fantasy Football 2017 - This or That Decisions + AFC East Breakdown
Release Date: August 1, 2017

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Introduction

On August 1, 2017, The Fantasy Footballers—Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright—delve into pivotal fantasy football decisions and provide an in-depth analysis of the AFC East. This episode is packed with expert insights, strategic advice, and engaging discussions tailored for fantasy football enthusiasts aiming to dominate their leagues.

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Listener League Update

Listener League Overview:
The hosts announce the continuation of the Foot Clan Listener League, now in its third year. With last year's champion Jason Moore not returning, there are 11 open spots available in the 14-team league.

Eligibility and Entry:
To join, listeners must send an email to [e-mail] with a creative submission that stands out. The trio emphasizes the importance of originality, citing last year's successful entry where a listener provided a virtual tour of Hawaii, capturing their attention.

Jason Moore [03:31]: "A giant cool story in text does not catch our eye."

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Ultimate Draft Kit Enhancements

Consistency Percentages Added:
The Ultimate Draft Kit has been upgraded to include consistency percentages for every player. These metrics indicate how often a player finishes within certain rankings, providing a clearer picture of their reliability.

Example Insight:
Tyrod Taylor was categorized as a quarterback 1 about 53% of the time, highlighting his frequent role as a consistent fantasy performer.

Jason Moore [05:27]: "We now have percentages for basically every player... you can look at and see, okay, well, this was how they did in 2016."

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This or That: Eddie Lacy vs. Smash Jackson

Poll Results:
The Foot Clan conducted a "This or That" poll asking listeners to choose between running backs Eddie Lacy and Smash Jackson. Paul Perkins was also briefly mentioned but ultimately Eddie Lacy secured 63% of the vote.

Jason Moore [09:53]: "He just smashed Jackson. The Foot Clan knows now."

Analysis:
Both backs have similar situations with strong competition in their respective teams. However, Eddie Lacy is favored due to his proven talent and physicality, presenting a lower-risk option compared to Smash Jackson.

Jason Moore [07:19]: "I lean Eddie Lacey over Smash Jackson."

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News and Notes

Injury Updates:

• Baltimore Ravens: Brashad Perryman has sustained a leg injury, raising concerns about health and performance.
• Detroit Lions: Eric Ebron is dealing with a hamstring injury, potentially impacting tight end depth.
• Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Rumors about Jamaal Charles' workload and the stability of Doug Martin's role.
• San Francisco 49ers: Tim Hightower is active, while Carlos Hyde has mixed reports due to fumbling incidents.

Key Highlight:

• James Conner is noted to be out with a possible suspension, making his status critical for fantasy considerations.

Jason Moore [10:23]: "Brandon Albert has chosen to retire after nine seasons."

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AFC East Breakdown

New England Patriots

Offensive Strategy & Key Players:
The Patriots' offense remains a powerhouse, with additions like Mike Gillislee, Rex Burkhead, Dwayne Allen, and Brandon Cooks enhancing their depth. The wide receiver corps, particularly Brandon Cooks and Julian Edelman, are focal points.

Wide Receiver Efficiency:
Brandon Cooks exhibits high efficiency with an average of 1.4 fantasy points per target, contrasting with Julian Edelman’s 0.8 points per target.

Jason Moore [25:00]: "Julian Edelman... his role is safe. It's carved out."

Running Backs Overview:
The Patriots have diversified their backfield to prevent predictability. Rex Burkhead and Mike Gillislee are poised to share carries, offering both running and receiving capabilities. This strategy introduces volatility but provides flexibility.

Jason Moore [30:54]: "Gillislee is extremely talented... it's a best ball league."

Miami Dolphins

Jay Ajayi vs. Melvin Gordon:
The central debate is between Jay Ajayi and Melvin Gordon. While Ajayi had a potent second half last season, concerns about his pass-catching abilities persist. The Listener League poll favored Melvin Gordon over Ajayi.

Jason Moore [33:00]: "I do fall in the Melvin Gordon camp along with the listeners."

Offensive Outlook:
With additions like Julius Thomas and adjustments in the tight end role, the Dolphins aim to bolster their passing game. However, the offense remains a moderate scoring unit, necessitating strategic tight end and receiver selections.

Jason Moore [34:09]: "I don't love the offense as a whole for Miami."

Buffalo Bills

Tyrod Taylor’s Rise:
Tyrod Taylor has emerged as a fantasy asset, finishing ninth in total points despite skepticism about his name recognition. His dual-threat capability, combining passing and rushing, makes him a valuable quarterback option.

Andy Holloway [42:06]: "Tyrod Taylor had by far the most carries in the fourth quarter."

Running Back Stability:
The Bills boast a strong running game with Le'Veon Bell, Dion Lewis, and James White. Mike Gillislee is highlighted as a versatile back who can handle both rushing and receiving roles, offering consistent fantasy production.

Mike Wright [29:35]: "Gillislee is unbelievably efficient the last two years."

New York Jets

Wide Receiver Concerns:
The Jets face a rebuilding phase with significant changes in their wide receiver lineup. Young talents like Austin Robinson and Kenny Stills present potential sleepers, though their production is contingent on quarterback performance and offensive consistency.

Running Back Choices:
Bilal Powell and Matt Forte are the primary backfield options. While Powell offers pass-catching prowess, Forte provides a veteran presence. Their roles may fluctuate based on team dynamics and game flow.

Jason Moore [45:42]: "I'll go ahead and say the quick question I was asking Brooks for. Where’s the player you're way higher than on others that you're not ashamed of? It’s Charles Clay."

Draft Strategy:
Given the Jets' uncertain offensive outlook, streaming wide receivers based on matchups is recommended. Austin Robinson stands out as a viable sleeper with potential breakout capabilities.

Jason Moore [51:15]: "I'm fully convinced that we see at least three quarterbacks play this year."

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Conclusion

The episode wraps up with the hosts emphasizing the importance of staying informed and adaptable throughout the fantasy football season. They encourage listeners to engage with their content, participate in the Listener League, and utilize the Ultimate Draft Kit for strategic advantage.

Andy Holloway [53:10]: "Let us know. Give us your feedback on twitter @theffballers. We are here for you."

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Notable Quotes:

• Jason Moore [03:31]: "A giant cool story in text does not catch our eye."

• Jason Moore [07:19]: "I lean Eddie Lacey over Smash Jackson."

• Jason Moore [09:53]: "He just smashed Jackson. The Foot Clan knows now."

• Jason Moore [25:00]: "Julian Edelman... his role is safe. It's carved out."

• Jason Moore [30:54]: "Gillislee is extremely talented... it's a best ball league."

This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions and insights from the episode, providing valuable information and strategic advice for fantasy football players targeting the AFC East.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Foreign.

[Jason Moore]

Terrible things during my watch, but none more horrifying than a wasted second round draft pick. That's why I always use my fantasy.

[Andy Holloway]

Footballer'S ultimate draft kit to guide me through the cold.

[Jason Moore]

Though my friends and family league keeps.

[Andy Holloway]

Getting smaller and smaller, my fantasy team.

[Jason Moore]

Is just getting stronger and stronger. Join me at www.ultimatedraftkick.com and prepare yourself to fight the good fight. Winter is coming, but so is my foot clan title.

[Andy Holloway]

I guess I do know something after all.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from the Play Draft Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

August is here.

[Mike Wright]

It's football time.

[Andy Holloway]

August 1st, Tuesday, coming at you a little later. But don't worry about it. Just calm down.

[Mike Wright]

Forget about it.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't worry about it. We've got a show tomorrow and then the day after that and the day after that, and then every weekday from now until football is over.

[Mike Wright]

I got a tweet from yesterday because look, yesterday was still July. Yes, people, I know we're very excited for the August shows every day, but yesterday was still July. But I got this tweet saying, when do you guys go to five shows a day?

[Andy Holloway]

Five shows a day?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And I said we would be deceased. Oh, okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, that's new. Goals in life or not at all.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Coming in 2018.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Andy, Mike and Jason, we're back again and it is August. No Kings of the north today. We're talking AFC east on the pod, breaking down the AFC East. We've also got a game of this or that we're going to play. Very tough decision at the running back position.

[Mike Wright]

But your barf bags ready.

[Andy Holloway]

Get your barf bags ready. Welcome. And here's the headline news for me. It's August 1st. I mean, we're here, we've arrived. And with the season and training camp comes the Listener League. Very well done.

[Mike Wright]

I love Michael Keaton.

[Andy Holloway]

If you want a chance to play in the Listener League, let me tell you what we have done for you. We have made it so that there are 11 open spots now. We, Man. Well, I'm sorry.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, it's 11. It's a 14 team league.

[Jason Moore]

No, he was apologizing because he meant Jason made it. There were 11 open spots. True.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason won the Listener League last year. Therefore, there is no returning champion, which means there's an extra spot available.

[Jason Moore]

Well, there's a returning champion, just not from the listeners.

[Andy Holloway]

Not from the listeners. So here's the deal with the Listener League. If you want A chance to play with us in the Listener League. This is the third year of the official Foot Clan Listener League. All you have to do is send us an email. Listenerleagueantasyfootballers.com and here are the ground rules. You have to do something that catches our eye.

[Jason Moore]

A giant cool story in text does not catch our eye.

[Andy Holloway]

No, it does the opposite. Because we cannot read like a thousand of these. Yeah. We cannot read 5,000 long stories about how you won your work league for the second consecutive year. Congrats. I mean, we are here to help you do that.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, what about a picture of a bunch of trophies?

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no, no, no. Not a picture of. Thank you, Brooks, for creativity, fun examples. Now, do not just do this, but an example. Last year, one of the people in the Listener League, they took a picture of us around to all these different places on Hawaii. Basically gave us a tour of Hawaii. It caught our eye.

[Mike Wright]

Like we were there.

[Andy Holloway]

Like we were there. It was cool.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I feel like I've been to Hawaii. Unlike Mike, who has been there 72 times.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I own it.

[Jason Moore]

Or Brooks.

[Andy Holloway]

Brooks actually was in the original Listener League. How we met Brooks and he. He basically had this video that he produced and sent in to us that was very high quality and very funny and very cool.

[Mike Wright]

And I'll say this, the reason we do it this way is we want fun people in the league. We do a full on. It's like there's a group chat that goes on the entire year. So we want to make sure there's fun people in there, you know, having a good time, some. Some nice.

[Andy Holloway]

And it's always been fun.

[Mike Wright]

It's always been garbage talk happening. I mean, but it's.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's going to be great. So Listener league@fantasy footballers.com if you want to enter, send us whatever. Just make it count. All right, Big news on the Ultimate Draft Kit over atultimate draft kit.com. it just keeps getting better and better. We promised you.

[Mike Wright]

Or ultimater.

[Andy Holloway]

It's more. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Ultimate Draft Game.

[Andy Holloway]

Find more new taglines. Brooks, make a note. New tagline. There has been an addition to the consistency rankings over there. The consistency charts that we had added, there are now consistency percentages. Jason, explain what the consistency percentages are.

[Jason Moore]

So if you want to know how often any player scores as a, you know, let's say an RB1 or an RB2 or within the top two RB, you know, running backs, meaning the top 12 or the top 24 or how often they finish outside the top 36, we now have percentages for basically every player that's in the ultimate draft kit and you can look at and see, okay, well, this was how they did in 2016. This is how they did in 2015. Here's how they did over the last two years or over the last three years.

[Andy Holloway]

Really cool. For example, Tyrod Taylor was a quarterback 1. 53% of the time, which is a.

[Jason Moore]

Pretty darn good score of his games played. He's. He's helping you out.

[Andy Holloway]

He is. And we're going to talk about him today on the AFC east breakdown. I guess I'll say it again. The show schedule now, five days a week and the shows, we record them in the morning and then they release normally mid morning. So you'll have the one from yesterday if you're, if you wake up real early. Otherwise you'll wait a little bit and they'll drop same day as we record them. Follow us on twitter @the ffballers Today's quick question is a this or that, gentlemen. This or that. Now I've pulled the foot clan on this one and I have the results, but I want to get your opinion. This or that? Eddie Lacy or Smash Jackson? Paul Perkins himself. These guys are extremely close to all of our rankings. Now you have to decide this or that.

[Mike Wright]

Is this true that Smash Jackson has risen so far up to adp? He's now in the sixth round.

[Andy Holloway]

He is currently.

[Jason Moore]

When you get branded Smash Jackson.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, I remember, I'm old enough to remember when, when Smash Jackson was Paul Perkins.

[Andy Holloway]

You're old enough to remember.

[Mike Wright]

And I was mock drafting him in the 10th round.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, well, yeah, him and Eddie Lacey or Smash Jackson.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a tough decision and I have a hard time with this one.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it is a very tough decision because when you look at these guys, their situations are darn near identical. You might say, well, Eddie Lacy, you know, is, is a, is a first and second down back because CJ Prosise is there. The same with Paul Perkins. Shane Vereen is a great pass catching back and he's there. Well, you might say, oh, one of them's got a bad offensive line for the running game. They both do. Or you might say, well, last year the New York Giants, you know, the running back position, they only scored 278 fantasy points as a group and it's like, well, Seattle only scored three more points. So situationally it's near identical. They both have decent quarterbacks and decent offenses. This year I am leaning Eddie Lacy because I believe he is the, you know, if Opportunity seems to be the same. I think talent is with Eddie Lacy. I've seen him perform. I think he's got a better body for the NFL. Certainly a better body for touchdowns and red zone and goal line work. And I believe that if you look not just over last year but over the last few years you've seen Seattle be a team that has produced fantasy relevant running backs even when it was Thomas Rawls after Marshawn lynch got injured.

[Mike Wright]

The woke one for half the season.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, a couple games out of the.

[Andy Holloway]

Woke 1/2 an hour is actually the.

[Mike Wright]

Don'T dismiss his achievement. He got Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, there was no plural. There was no plural to that word. His achievement.

[Jason Moore]

But you know, for those reasons, he never had achievements. For those reasons. I think they're both going about the same place in the draft. You'll have to take Eddie Lacy a few spots ahead but I lean Eddie Lacey over Smash Jacks.

[Mike Wright]

I'm with Jason. I'll just be quick. It's Eddie Lacy the because of the previous talent that I've actually seen from Eddie Lacey. If the drive is there, he could turn into a steal.

[Jason Moore]

Today is a weigh in day for him.

[Mike Wright]

That means that and I've said if he makes weigh ins every day I move him up or not every day but every time he makes them because I know that he's committed to money.

[Jason Moore]

That's fine.

[Mike Wright]

That's fine with me.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll take Paul Perkins in half and full and I'll take Eddie Lacy in standard leagues. I have them back to back. It's a tough decision. I see all the arguments. But I think Paul Perkins has a higher percentage chance of being on the field on third down than Eddie Lacy does. CJ Prosise is locked into that role. And Paul Perkins, I saw him make plays in the passing game last year. So I will go Perkins in half and full. I have them back to back. It's pretty close. So let's talk news.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league.

[Andy Holloway]

By the I buried the lead there. The Foot Clan voted this and Paul Perkins won 63% of the vote. Paul Perkins over of course.

[Jason Moore]

He just smashed Jackson. The Foot Clan knows now.

[Mike Wright]

Did when you asked did you ask Paul Perkins or did you ask Smash Jackson?

[Andy Holloway]

I mixed it. I said Paul Smash Jackson Perkins or Eddie Lacy? Hey, I didn't put Fat Eddie in there.

[Jason Moore]

So I know we've got all this news. Talk about a lot of news. There's actually newer news than what's in this doc. Slightly breaking news.

[Andy Holloway]

Newer news.

[Mike Wright]

I put it on the bottom.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, did you.

[Andy Holloway]

Wait, how.

[Jason Moore]

Breaking it. Break your heart news because Baltimore Ravens just continue to drop. I mean, he's not dropped completely, but Prashad Perryman left the field today. I mean, come on, Baltimore, get. Fire your team doctors and hire new ones that. I don't know, do you guys stretch?

[Mike Wright]

There's, there's something going on in Baltimore.

[Jason Moore]

But that's, that's is not fair to the fans.

[Mike Wright]

Let's say it's still just, you know, a couple days, then. Then it's whatever. But it's another. It's another leg injury for Brashad Perryman.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And this guy can't catch. Break.

[Andy Holloway]

There's a report about Kevin White recently coming out. His confidence is shot after two leg injuries. Both Perryman and White were explosive players. And if you can't play with massive confidence and be able to compete, it can take time to develop that. And that would be the concern too. You know, you're playing with fear, not with aggression.

[Mike Wright]

And they were explosive, but yet very raw wide receivers. They weren't technicians like Amari Cooper. They weren't ready. So they.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, it's hammy brother. Hammy brother. Eric Ebron. Eric Ebron suffered a hamstring injury during Sunday's practice. Trying to once again demoralize Jason before the season begins. John Brown with the slight tweak. Now Eric Ebron with the slight tweak.

[Jason Moore]

Congratulations. You've done it, Eric.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Eric Ebron has. You know, reports said that Detroit have been in a lot more two tight end sets this year with Anquan bolding going, which boded very well for Eric Ebron. And I believe Darren Fells is there as well, but he's on the sidelines. Crockett Gilmore, Ravens tight end. He's gone. He's out. They signed Larry Danelle. Not a lot of fantasy relevant discussion there to be had, so I'll move on. Here's just.

[Mike Wright]

This is more and more. Ben Watson. Watch.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Gio Bernard, full participant in the first day of Bengals camp.

[Mike Wright]

Shocking.

[Andy Holloway]

Very surprising news because he was rumored to miss a couple of games. I didn't really know what to do with Joe Mixon based on this news. I. I know that Gio Bernard has a very important role in that offense. I think that he's an integral part of that team, so I know he'll be on the field. How do you view this news? The surprisingly good health of Gio Bernard in the context of Joe Mixon and Jeremy Hill.

[Mike Wright]

It's bad news for Mixon. Absolutely it was, we've talked about all off season that it would not be shocking if they slowly work mixing in. But if Gio was out and you have this pass catching role just available, maybe Mixon can get going. But if Gio was there to be the pass catcher and Gio Bernard is an excellent pass catching back. He's a, he's a good talent. He just is not built to be an every down back. But if you just give him the workload, I mean that's just, that's more and more touches away from Joe Mixon. And you have Jeremy Hill still.

[Andy Holloway]

There could be a goal line probably, but I got it.

[Mike Wright]

I have throw out. There was a. I can't recall his name but there's a beat reporter for the Bengals was on the sideline does the footage and he's recording some practice. It's like. And here's a handoff for Jeremy Hill. Dude just falls like, falls down immediately. Just an arm tackle. He's like. And now it's Joe Mixon's turn and a 60 yard touchdown. And you're like why, why you gotta do that to Jeremy Hill doing him dirty.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, there are. I mean that's a running back situation to watch this preseason. A couple other teams have some interesting news breaking. Brooks, you. You took my quote verbatim and put it into the notes here. Oh yeah. I wanted to talk about the Tampa Bay backfield. I. My quote was Tampa Bay bull crap. Because the news breaking about Tampa Bay's backfield was just a bunch of bull crap.

[Mike Wright]

I gotta say that nothing that's broken has been news to this guy.

[Jason Moore]

Well, what is the news?

[Andy Holloway]

There is no news.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's the point.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the news. Here's what came out first. All of a sudden it says that Jaquiz Rogers could unseat Doug Martin.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Doug Martin could not be assured the starting role in week three.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Week four, then the next day RBBC to be used for the first three weeks. Charles Sims, Jaquiz Rogers, Jeremy McNichols basically biding their time until Doug Martin returns. So ignore it all. That's my news. Ignore all of it.

[Jason Moore]

They're just trying to keep their starter to quiz healthy, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Hot tip.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Tampa will have their best running back. There'll be someone out there playing running back. I'm trying to remember the other backfield I wanted to talk about here first. I'll tell you, Jamal Charles, according to Peter King, they want him to see 8 to 10 touches per game.

[Jason Moore]

That's not going to get it done for fantasy. I mean, if, if you get 10 touches a game, the higher end of what they're hoping, that's 160 carries. And an older Jamal Charles.

[Mike Wright]

Well, that's, that's not. That means Charles is going to get. Catch some passes. So you're not talking 160 carries, you're talking right touch 150 and then probably 30 receptions.

[Andy Holloway]

Jay Ajayi exited practice being evaluated for a concussion. Nothing major there. Here's the other backfield I wanted to bring up. San Francisco. Tim Hightower took the first rep at running back on Monday's training camp practice. The news for Carlos Hyde had been pretty positive of late. Some reinforcement from the coaching staff, from the gm. I heard he then went out and, you know, fumbled. First pitch yesterday after Hightower. I haven't heard a lot about Joe Williams. That's a, It's a tough running back situation in San Francisco and it really might be an avoid all at this point because you have a team that, I mean, how many touchdowns are the running backs going to really score in San Francisco? Tough division, not a great team. I'm worried about it. I try. I looked into my numbers to see if I wanted to move Carlos Height up and I didn't. I mean, I tweaked him a little bit, but it didn't move him up in the rankings.

[Mike Wright]

But I mean, to be fair, you hate Carlos Hyde.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. You see, here's the thing. You love the infinite, unlimited, invisible scores that these, these injured players have.

[Jason Moore]

It's not invisible. The potential.

[Andy Holloway]

The potential. But Eric Ebron, Carlos Hyde, Rashad Perryman.

[Mike Wright]

Don't put those names on me.

[Andy Holloway]

Hold on. No, no, no. I'm going to put another one on you. Lance Dunbar. How many? I mean, you've blown the horn for lance Dunbar for 10 years. Guess who's out indefinitely with a knee injury now? Guess who's not even in consideration for the number two back in, in St. Louis anymore?

[Mike Wright]

No one, because they don't have a football team.

[Andy Holloway]

It's Lance Dunbar. He's out in Los Angeles. It's just another one of those things. And by the way, if you are in the market for the handcuff for Todd Gurley, you might need to look at Malcolm Brown because Malcolm Brown head coach has come out. Sean McVeigh's come out and said, hey, he solidified himself as the number two. If they don't bring in now, they might bring in another body. But right now your handcuff is Malcolm.

[Mike Wright]

They're bringing someone else in.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, James Conner, left arm in a sling.

[Jason Moore]

So the bad news there is he was actually sent back to Pittsburgh to have it looked at, which insinuates that it's not just like, oh, you've got a little owie. Come back on the field in a couple hours. They want to get it checked out. It could be something more serious. So definitely worth monitoring because the backup to Le'Veon Bell is a valuable position as of now. If he's out of the way, it would have to be Fitzgerald Toussaint.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, last bit I want to talk about before we get into the AFC East. Brandon Albert has chosen to retire after nine seasons. He was going to be the blindside protection for Blake Bortles. Surprising news. He had been angling for a contract adjustment. So you wonder how what the implications are there. He owes the team $3.4 million.

[Mike Wright]

Breaking news. Brandon Albert has returned to the NFL. I'm not paying no one $3.4 million.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I wonder what's going to happen there. But right now, Cam Robinson show up.

[Jason Moore]

And phone it in.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Cam Robinson is going to end up the blindside protection for Bortles. So that wasn't a great offensive line last year. It's not progressing towards one this year. They have a good center, but. All right. You guys have anything else you want to talk about? I don't think we need to get into any other news. I do want to tell you right now how thankful we are to Pristine Auction for supporting this podcast as we move to five days a week, we got to tell you about pristineauction.com the absolute best when it comes to autograph sports memorabilia for your favorite team. We just had a giveaway. We did this last month. Gave away an autographed Ty Hilton jersey, autographed Tyreek Hill jersey, and an autographed Tevin Colton Jersey, all from pristineauction.com the quality, the consistency of how many items are up for daily auction. It's just a great way to get ready for the football season. Get that TV room decked out. You can see our signed Jay Ajayi jersey in the background here. Head over there. Pristineauction.com that's P R I S T I N E auction.com let them know that the fantasy footballers sent you. I know you will really enjoy.

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[Andy Holloway]

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Yeah.

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[Andy Holloway]

I believe looking forward to this episode because I'm looking forward to talking about the New England Patriots and the fantasy football relevant players on this roster. It's always exciting when you talk about a team with an offense you already know is going to finish in the top of the league. This is a foregone conclusion. You know that barring an injury to Tom Brady, Maybe even with one, they'll probably finish in the top five in terms of how their offense performs. 14 and two last year won the AFC east, of course. And this is a team that just basically added to the Arsenal you lost LeGarrett Blount. But you bring in Mike Gillisley, Rex Burkhead, bring in Dwayne Allen, bring in Brandon Cooks. And let's start out talking about the wide receiver core because I have, I have some interesting information that I want to break down here. And the question for this team is the narrative. All off season has been too many mouths to feed.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

And that will nullify fantasy value. And I want to know from you guys, one, is that an actual problem? And if it is or isn't who comes out on top in that equation? Because I looked at this last year, it's very interesting. Brandon Cooks, everybody loves him, right? High flyer, big play guy. He averaged the most fantasy points per target in the league. So he had 1.4 fantasy points per target. He was efficient with his targets. Julian Edelman was dead last. So he was 0.8 points per target. Completely different type of players. How does this break down for you guys?

[Mike Wright]

Well, and I would dare say that touchdowns are heavily weighing into that. Where Julian Edelman in his. Historically not. He's not a huge touchdown scoring threat, but last year was lower than normal for Julian Edelman. And here's what I want to say about the targets. It's breaking down numbers, you know, just really simple math and. But then also projecting. What do you see for this team? Because the last two years running backs have accounted for around 24% of the targets. Gronk is about 20%. Julian Edelman, the last couple of years are right around 25%. Right. So now you're talking. I have 31% of Tom Brady's targets left to go to Brandon Cooks, Chris Hogan, Malcolm Mitchell, Dwayne Allen, assuming that.

[Jason Moore]

Those other things stay the same. And then Cooks didn't eat into.

[Andy Holloway]

You didn't count any of the running backs yet.

[Mike Wright]

I say the running backs are about 24% of the targets.

[Jason Moore]

So.

[Mike Wright]

And just going off of, you know, like averages essentially that you have about 180 targets. Last year, Chris Hogan, 58 targets. Martellus Bennett had 73. Now Martellus Bennett obviously saw an uptick in targets because Gronk missed a lot of the season. But it's Brandon Cooks. How do you get him to that 125 targets that he's used to seeing? And even if he is incredibly efficient, the problem is you're paying a second round pick for, for a guy that you have, you're not sure he's going to see those targets and will disappear.

[Andy Holloway]

Is he really a second round pick?

[Mike Wright]

I bet he's in the second because.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

He had.

[Andy Holloway]

I have him down as the 13th wide receiver off the board and I don't think that's the end of the world. Like I have him ranked as my 17th ranked wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know where 13th wide receiver off the board is according to ADP.

[Mike Wright]

I'll pull it up.

[Andy Holloway]

But in PPR is going at the 212 right now. In PPR.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, 304 in standard.

[Andy Holloway]

I went back and looked at 2013-2014-2015-2016, the wide receiver corps in New England. And the leading wide receiver Was Edelman all four years?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. He finished in 2013. He was the 22nd ranked. And these ranks, by the way, they're points per game. So, I mean, I'm pulling out those injured games just to give you context for how good the number one wide receiver can be in New England. 22nd in 2013, he was 16th in points per game in 2014. In his limited time in 2015, that was when he had that great start. He was seventh. And then last year he was 16th. So I think that's why I'm comfortable with cooks in that 17, 18 range. But I wouldn't be surprised if Edelman ends up above Cooks in the final rankings. And Edelman's a 26 wide receiver off the board, where Cooks is 13?

[Jason Moore]

No, not at all. What you brought up in the beginning about efficiency per target, what that says is that you're going to have more volatility. It sounds like, oh, that's a really bad set for Julian Edelman. But he's been successful with that kind of efficiency because his volume is there and everyone is worried about his volume with Brandon Cook's coming to town. I'm not. I look back at 2007 when Randy Moss had 23 touchdowns and 160 targets.

[Mike Wright]

You want to compare him to Randy Moss?

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying that's my point. Like, you can't.

[Mike Wright]

When he gets the best wide receiver in football.

[Jason Moore]

No, you can't compare Brandon Cooks to Randy Moss. But even still, my point is with that Randy Moss, Wes Welker in that Julian edelman role, had 145 targets. So Julian Edelman, to me, his role is safe. It's carved out. I will say this, though, for the Patriots, unlike a lot of teams you make, you add a bunch of offensive weapons to a bunch of teams that doesn't always, you know, turn into just more scoring because the game script will change and now the running game takes over and they slow the clock. The Patriots are the type of team that will step on your throat while you are on the ground and they will rack the points up and they will win by 28 points if they can. And so I believe there's going to be a lot of fantasy value to be had. I'm fine with Gronk. I'm fine with Cooks, more in a best ball because I don't have to predict the touchdowns. And I love Julian Edelman at the value. That's how I see the pass catching core there.

[Andy Holloway]

So you're already fourth in yards per game. They were already third in points per game.

[Mike Wright]

And by the end of the year, this is what I've talked about. Brandon Cooks will have those high wide receiver two numbers. But when you've played him every single week, is he actually helping you? And so I'm just going to read you a couple names who are going in that Brandon Cooks range and can see what the difference is. All right, so Ty Hilton, Mari Cooper, Doug Baldwin. Now Brandon Cooks, Hopkins, Pryor Watkins, Demarys Thomas.

[Andy Holloway]

What you're choosing, but I'm saying all.

[Mike Wright]

Of those other guys are the top target.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what I was going to say. That's what you're choosing. You're choosing the, the offense in New England and you're sacrificing being the one, the kind of alpha guaranteed.

[Jason Moore]

You know, I would say Cooks over Hopkins. Hopkins is the guarantee.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And that's, that's fine. I was just pointing out, like, where he's going. Why I feel like he's being drafted overdrafted is because those guys are all the one on their team.

[Andy Holloway]

New England ends the season. Buffalo. Miami. Pittsburgh. Buffalo, New York.

[Jason Moore]

New York Jets.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I was like, giant.

[Andy Holloway]

Buffalo. Miami. Pittsburgh. Buffalo, New York. Okay, that's really nice. All right, let's talk about the running backs. You bring in Gillesley. You bring in Rex Burkhead. You already have Dion Lewis, James White. Last year we saw the Garrett Blunt, but he was, he was pigeonholed into this first and second down goal line role. And it served him well, fantasy wise. But Bill Belichick's come out. He said, look, we don't want to be pigeonholed. We don't want the defense to know, hey, when Dion Lewis or James White are on the field, it's a passing situation for the running back. And when Legara Blunt's on the field, we're definitely running you down your throat. They wanted to bring in guys that can play four downs. It seems like he believes Rex Burkhead definitely is that guy. He's talked about Gillislee that way. And then we saw Gilsey get the first goal line carry in camp. So lay this out for me. What is the real ceiling and what is the floor? Because I think I get caught up with Mike Gillis and I say, oh, my goodness, this could be amazing. And then I also, then I pull myself back. I go, well, what if, what if, what if Dion Lewis really has a role? And what if Rex Burkhead catches Belichick's eye and look there. There's volatility there.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there is a lot. And it's. You got to pay, you know, it's not too bad. Where, where is Togillus Lee's going 407 in a standard league, so that's still fine. Last year, LeGarrett blunt 18 rushing touchdowns. The team had 19 rushing touchdowns. Zero went to another running back. The other, the only other one was Jacoby Brissette. I mean they found that role and they said, okay, legarre Blount, this is all you. Why I have faith in Gillislee is because he's a better, well rounded player but can do the kinds of things on the ground that LeGarrett Blunt can do. Mike Gillis was unbelievably efficient the last two years, not just one. I believe he led the league in yards per carry. He's an excellent player. And you can go to shotgun with Mike Gillislee and not go, oh well, they're going to throw well. No, we may be running because you have a very versatile running back like Andy was talking about. Now could that, could Burkhead kind of eat into that? I guess it's possible but you're just, you're taking the shot. It's similar to Brandon Cooks, but I'm more willing to go in in the fourth round on someone who I think could be a running back one.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Gillislee is extremely talented. I know he was a backup last year but if you watch film, if you look at metrics, he's extremely talented. He goes to a high powered offense. Everything looks rosy and I'm a big believer in him and the offense which is why in a pros versus Joe's, I just drafted him very high. But that's a best ball league. That's a. You get all the touchdowns, you don't. I don't have to make any of the start sit to see all the touchdowns. You know, in a normal league, in a home league, in a redraft league. I'm really afraid of Gillislee in the fourth round. I don't think I'm going to take him because we have to keep in mind what history says about Patriots running backs. Yeah. I mean last year, Leg.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Not just last year.

[Jason Moore]

Last year Laguerre Blunt got all of the touchdowns but literally Bill Belichick came out and said I don't like that predictability.

[Mike Wright]

Bill Belichick says a lot of things.

[Jason Moore]

Sure. But my point is he, if you look at how he's coached, he has not coached with that kind of predictability until last year. The last five years. Here's the top placing fantasy finish for their running back. You got blunt last year with eight. You got blunt the year before. 36th, Vereen 22nd. Ridley 33rd. You got to go back five years to find Ridley when he was the 11th.

[Mike Wright]

Sure. But you can go back. Was it the two years ago? It was Dion Lewis for everything until he got injured. And it's. I think it's an.

[Jason Moore]

I think it's more high risk.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'm not going to argue against the risk. I just. I think there was some volatility involved in injuries that prevented him getting an actual workhorse running back.

[Andy Holloway]

But those things can happen again.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah, of course they can.

[Jason Moore]

But.

[Mike Wright]

But you're.

[Jason Moore]

You have to go.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you comfortable with him in the fourth?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Let's talk about the Miami Dolphins. Ten and six last year ended the season in a flurry. It was the Jay Ajayi Show. Towards the second half of the year, he had the monster games. And the question for Jay Ajayi is do you believe. Right. Fantasy owner, do you believe in Jay Ajayi? I polled the listeners three to one. They chose Melvin Gordon over Jay Ajayi.

[Jason Moore]

Really?

[Andy Holloway]

They did. Last year, Ajayi finished 11th. And I think what was both impressive and not impressive about Jiajayi was the pass catching side of things. He was the basement. When it comes to pass catching, no one was really worse. He was 10 yards a game, two targets a game, not involved, not a piece of the puzzle. Which was a little strange because he was capable of doing that in college, but it wasn't part of the game plan. So starting with Jay Ajayi, do you fall in the Melvin Gordon or the Ajayi camp when those two are heads up? And what do you really foresee Adam Gase doing? Is this offense all Jay Ajayi's?

[Jason Moore]

I do fall in the Melvin Gordon camp along with the listeners if I have to take one of those two. But I like both guys. This isn't. That's not an indictment of Jay Ajayi. I think Jay Ajayi is good. And you brought up the passing. I mean, his final year at Boise state, he had 50 receptions. He is a very capable receiving back.

[Andy Holloway]

Wonder if he emailed some of those clips to gaze this off season. That's what I would have done. I would have been like, scoot that over there.

[Jason Moore]

He has room for improvement.

[Mike Wright]

And I just watching it as the coach walks up.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I didn't see you there.

[Andy Holloway]

I was just busy catching some passes.

[Jason Moore]

Putting something up on the big projector. I didn't know you were here. Wait, that. Don't. Don't we need like a British accent? Isn't Ajayi from London? Oh, we got. We. We messed up big time, fellas.

[Andy Holloway]

It's one way to look at it.

[Jason Moore]

Ajayi is the center of the offense. They. They clearly have committed to him. They did last year. They found success. They made the playoffs. I don't see them going, all right, well, let's blow that up. They're going to stick to that. And I believe from college that he can get the job done. But I don't love the offense as a whole for Miami versus Even with all the. Oh, my goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

Nobody's been a better hype train than.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, everybody's the best player beat riders in Miami. No, but I mean, if I'm comparing that against Melvin Gordon and the Los Angeles Chargers, I see an offense and a better quarterback and more scoring opportunities than I see with J.J. all right.

[Andy Holloway]

The Dolphins, 24th in total offense last year, 17th in scoring. Added Julius Thomas to the arsenal this year, but pretty much the same offense that you were looking at.

[Mike Wright]

Same players.

[Andy Holloway]

Same players. You know, you got the extra hype of Devonte Parker being the greatest player in the history of the world right now, but I, you know, just echoing what you're saying, Jason, it's not all rosy for the in offense. When they finished the way they finished, I think people saw momentum and they saw some efficiency from Tannehill at times. For those looking at Julius Thomas briefly, before we talk about the wide receivers, you know, for Julius Thomas to make an impact in this offense, everything has to change. For the way they use tight ends. Last year, they barely targeted him. 31st in the league in terms of only 4.6 targets per game. Not good in terms of, you know, maybe they didn't have a weapon, but Mike likes Deion Sims and Dion Sims was there last year.

[Mike Wright]

I was pulling it up. I mean, Deion Sims kind of had a bit of a run at. In the second half of the season. And by run, I mean he made a blip on the radar.

[Andy Holloway]

Like an eight yard run. Yeah, like a. An end around.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, he was getting, you know, 40 yards a game or so.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so nobody wants to talk tight in there. Julius Thomas outside your top 12, top 15.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'm not buying. I'm not buying it.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's focus on Parker and Landry, Kenny Stills I guess we can talk about him too. Yep. Landry Last year was 14th in PPR leagues. 34 fewer targets than the year before, but still, you know, very consistent. I mean 14th is impressive slot receiver, consistent week to week. Love him as a wide receiver too. Are you buying into the Parker hype at all?

[Mike Wright]

I'm. No, I am.

[Jason Moore]

I am buying into the Parker hype a little bit. I think with the changing of the offense and the talent of Parker. You saw Tannehill last year surprisingly have a pretty decent deep ball, right? I mean Kenny Stills was able to get past the offense and get the.

[Andy Holloway]

Past the offense, past the defense.

[Jason Moore]

He got. It's a full.

[Andy Holloway]

He ran past the offensive line is what you're telling me.

[Mike Wright]

It's like Madden when you run off sides before the ball is snapped, but then you get back.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, exactly. So I do buy into the hype because sometimes you need to take these.

[Andy Holloway]

Translate that though. What does that translate into?

[Jason Moore]

It translates into a later round pick that you have the upside of a guy who could end up coming out with over a thousand yards and nine touchdowns and be a solid producer for a wide receiver too.

[Andy Holloway]

I like that.

[Jason Moore]

You know, am I saying he will do that? No, my rankings don't. But I buy into the hype where. Where he's going in the draft. It's worth taking that gamble because he has the talent and the opportunity to take that step forward. Every year players take massive steps forward. If you can pinpoint which guy that was your team is. Is great for that. I think he's one that. That has a realistic shot and he.

[Mike Wright]

Would have to take a pretty big step. If you can check out his reception perception in the ultimate draft kit, I'll give you a little hint though. It's not good. I mean he has a lot of growth as a wide receiver. That has to happen. He's a first round talent and you.

[Andy Holloway]

Stack that on top of Landry being a better target in the offense and JJ being more of the focal point. You know, that's a situation in Miami that's similar to what I think philosophically they look at in Jacksonville and they say, hey look, if we want a chance to go on these, the long run that they had at the end of the year, we cannot put it all in Ryan Tannehill, we cannot put it all on Blake Bortles. We need to let Leonard Fournette, Jay Ajayi, you know, the short passing game to Landry be a catalyst for success.

[Mike Wright]

So in Landry was impressive last year, but he was Having some big plays. He was being rather efficient. Do you still buy into him this year? I mean you. Because you saw the. The change was very distinct.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, they didn't extend him and they said they're not going to. Which does give me a little pause, you know. Do you phase out a guy that you're not going to pay on?

[Mike Wright]

The first four weeks he was getting double digit targets every single game, 11 a week. And then the JI week five breakout happens. And in the final 12 games he only saw double digit targets twice. And he went down to seven targets a game which for. For him, you know, it's like 1,000 yards and four touchdowns because he's not a huge touchdown guy. But are you.

[Andy Holloway]

He's just capped, but you're going to.

[Mike Wright]

Buy into the cap. He was already capped but he was getting fed so many targets and now those are going to go down. Do you still jump in and are you still excited for landing?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm totally comfortable with him and like I said, I love him as he's.

[Mike Wright]

Like, he's just like.

[Andy Holloway]

He's like a nice ugly sweater like most slot receivers.

[Jason Moore]

I think comfortable is a decent word. You're not excited. I can't imagine. I'm excited about getting Jarvis Landry. And to speak to what you're talking about. Whenever Jai had 15 carries or more, you had Landry average 4.9 receptions versus the seven and a half.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll take five a game though. I will.

[Jason Moore]

I'll take five a game from a deep guy. But you know, if I'm getting.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that makes sense.

[Jason Moore]

4.9 for 50.

[Mike Wright]

He's like a really bad pair of sweatpants that you throw on at home.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm gonna leave you with that one.

[Mike Wright]

The sweatpants.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you said cause he's comfortable.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but you don't want to wear it out in public.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's somebody that Brooks thought it was funny.

[Jason Moore]

See, but you said really bad pair of sweatpants. I'm thinking like dirty.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I mean.

[Jason Moore]

Well, they're dirty, but they're comfy. They're real.

[Andy Holloway]

He can just be a pair of sweatpants.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Why don't they catch it?

[Andy Holloway]

Why do they have to be grungy?

[Mike Wright]

Because they're sweatpants.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't wash yours?

[Mike Wright]

No. Never. You don't get ketchup stains on your sweatpants.

[Andy Holloway]

I would contend that Jarvis Landry is a clean pair of sweatpants.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I agree. He's a clean pair of sweatpants.

[Mike Wright]

Are you willing to wear them in public?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Andy Wears sweatshirts in public almost every day.

[Andy Holloway]

They're very nice.

[Mike Wright]

Man, his sweatshirts are classy.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

I like them.

[Andy Holloway]

Wait, I feel that. Is that bad for you? Like, if Mike's complimenting my dress choice, I'm wondering if I. Thank you, Mike.

[Jason Moore]

Break news.

[Mike Wright]

Andy has burned all his sweatshorts.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, they're too expensive.

[Jason Moore]

And also if you're playing basketball, Kenny Stills is a great pickup. Super duper late. He's going to get some of those longbound touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Buffalo. Let's talk about the bill 79 last year. The curious case of the sneaky Tyrod Taylor. Right. I brought it up earlier. 50% of the time he was a QB one. I mean, you just kind of don't get it when you. You hear the name. And yet ninth in total points, eighth in points per game at the quarterback position. That's wonderful. Nobody ran the ball more. Closing out games, Tyred Taylor had by far the most carries in the fourth quarter. So he puts the team on his back. Greg Jennings style.

[Mike Wright]

Greg Jennings.

[Andy Holloway]

So gets Watkins back. Presumably. Assuming Watkins doesn't pull a Parryman Dunbar hide type of situation.

[Jason Moore]

He won't. He's playing 16.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

Not 15.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man, 16.

[Andy Holloway]

I have an article coming out that I'm still working on. 30 Bold predictions and that's one of them. That Watkins plays all 16. So Watkins and McCoy sounds like a Western.

[Mike Wright]

I'd watch it.

[Andy Holloway]

The hatfields and the McCoy. I'd watch the Watkins and McCoy. Tyrod Taylor, where does he belong? Can he go up from where he was? Because Watkins comes in this team, obviously they ran the ball more than anybody. It was the Lashawn McCoy show. Bring in Zay Jones. Bring in Patrick DeMarco, fullback, you know, Pro bowl fullback from Atlanta.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, Shady is for sure the number four running back. And depending on you don't buy into limited reps. No.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

No, he's your offense. Last year the Buffalo running backs accounted for nearly 50% of their tickets. I mean, they. They were 5.1 yards per carry as a team. They were unbelievable. And they have a great offensive line. They've brought in an excellent fullback to just. Because that's what they want to do. They want to run. Yeah, but moving back to Tyrod Taylor, if Sammy Watkins plays 16 games, how was Tyrod Taylor not a quarterback one? Like, how is that possible?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I think he will be. He has to be because, you know, where would you take his baseline that he builds up with running and then you add in big play. I mean, he, he is not afraid to throw the ball up to Watkins. Watkins, when he's on the field, has always been efficient. It's just, you know, is he on the field, Jason?

[Mike Wright]

So if I tell you Sammy watkins, he's playing 16.

[Jason Moore]

If I knew for sure.

[Mike Wright]

Where's Tyrod for you?

[Jason Moore]

If I knew for sure, then Tie Rod would probably be around. Quarterback 11. I mean, I look at last year, what he was able to do, his percentage of games where he finished as a quarterback, one, they were higher than Derek Carr's, higher than Marcus Mariota's or Staffords or Dalton's or Russell Wilson's. He, he's a, I, I don't think he's a great NFL quarterback. And I hate that fantasy scoring gives so much value to quarterback rushing yards. I've, you know, bemoaned that in the past, but it does. And so for fantasy, Tyrod Taylor is great. And because he's not a great NFL quarterback, in many people's opinion, he falls in drafts. So we're a late quarterback drafting group here. Tyrod Taylor, awesome guy. Oh, man. If you're in a two quarterback league, you can almost always get him as your second and that is great.

[Andy Holloway]

Very likely to be a middling team again too. So put him in the position to have to come back late in the game. Actually throw the ball a little bit. They lose Robert woods, like I said, Zay Jones is there. Jonathan Williams would be the kind of handcuff slash. Maybe he has a little bit of that Gilly potential. If they decide to take reps away from McCoy.

[Mike Wright]

You've seen the last couple of years, it was Carlos Williams and then it was Mike Gillisley last year. They find a role. And like I said, the offensive line is so good and McCoy is such an excellent running back. And you tune your game to, okay, I gotta tackle Shady McCoy, the slippery fish. And then you throw the change up. I mean, it throws defenses off where the backup running back in Buffalo can have success.

[Andy Holloway]

Any fantasy sleepers on this roster you want to bring up like Charles Clay?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah. I mean, I'll.

[Mike Wright]

Jason's eyes just lit up.

[Jason Moore]

I'll go ahead and say the quick question I was asking Brooks for. Where what's the player you're way higher than on others that you're not ashamed of? It's Charles Clay. I know I'm higher than everybody. Where I take Charles Clay or where I project him, you know, it makes.

[Andy Holloway]

People go, we've always thought you were higher than everybody.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So the reality is he's got a great target percentage. I think he's a talented tight end.

[Andy Holloway]

He's got only a few targets there, so he's too.

[Jason Moore]

You know, he's twice finished as a top 12 tight end in the past and he is undrafted. I think his value is greater than what his draft position is.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's talk about some pair of dirty sweatpants or something to that extent. The New York Football jets pooped in his big boys. Oh, I should have said it.

[Mike Wright]

These are not big boy pants.

[Andy Holloway]

This is a bad team. But being a bad team does not mean that there will not be fantasy relevant players. Last year we saw Trail Pryor in Cleveland have a monster year. We saw good years from Crowell. So McCown, Hackenberg, they look like the two competing for the starting quarterback job right now. Bryce Petty, falling out of it a little bit. You have the running backs, Powell, Forte, and then you have this wide receiver landscape that I want to get into as well. You basically have all the potential of last year's team that has been jettisoned. Ryan Fitzpatrick, I see what you did there. Oh, there you go. Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker, Ryan Fitzpatrick. And then stalwart of the offense, Nick Mangold is not even there anymore. So this team looks completely different. It's a youth movement. So. All right, where are the diamonds in this very rough rough?

[Mike Wright]

Because I mean, the clearest diamond would be if. How are you projecting the running back situation to shake up blah. Powell was incredible in that last 25% of the season when Matt Forte was. Was a non factor. Do they ride with Powell or do they just go back to Forte and say, hey, well, you're the, you're the leader of the time.

[Andy Holloway]

They'll use both and like I said before, they're not. Neither of them factor into the long term future of the Jets.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I was watching some jets camp video.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm sorry.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I know. Thank you. Thank you very much. This is what I do for you, Foot Clan. I watch things like jets camp video. And this wasn't highlights. This was just kind of.

[Andy Holloway]

Was there viewer discretion advice?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, viewer discretion advice. It was. You must be 85 years or older going to sleep to watch this program.

[Mike Wright]

And you saw like Matlock didn't want to watch that, right?

[Jason Moore]

Matt Forte gets first crack, he takes a run. And I literally, while I'm watching this, I think, man, he is no spring chicken. I mean, he does not look good. And I'm talking just jogging back after the run. And then they give the ball to Bilal Powell and He's like, boom. Just bouncing. Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Blau, pow, pow.

[Jason Moore]

And. But I'm not convinced that the jets are going to. I think it will be a 50. 50 Bilal Powell. If given the opportunity, he would be a super great fantasy asset. I don't think he gets the opportunity this year. So right now I feel like he's being a little bit overdraft.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, even got him both in my late 20s, so even in a. And neither of them are in their late 20s, so.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, well, Powell is.

[Andy Holloway]

No, Powell's like 31.

[Jason Moore]

What?

[Mike Wright]

No, no, you better vet that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I might be wrong. Hold on. But Bilal Powell, 28's the new 31.

[Jason Moore]

He's in his late 20s.

[Andy Holloway]

He's 28. All right, so.

[Mike Wright]

But Bilal Powell in the sixth round.

[Andy Holloway]

31 in wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. And I'm in PPR in fantasy football calculator. He's a, he's a middle six round pick. A pass catching running back.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

For a team that's probably, probably going to be losing some games. I mean a few even.

[Andy Holloway]

No, even if he's only there.

[Mike Wright]

If he's getting 50% of the shares of the. Of the snaps in the sixth round, that's fine. I would be happy to have.

[Jason Moore]

So you're happy with Powell in the.

[Mike Wright]

Sixth In a pbr? Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. In the ppr. Okay. Matt Forte.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

He didn't even break out of your sipping on your drink.

[Mike Wright]

There's no time for that.

[Andy Holloway]

I think a lot of people want to hand Quincy New a wide receiver. One job. A lot of reports out of. You know, I listened to the beat writers in New York and I've read some things that say, look, he may be by default the one on this roster.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, for sure.

[Jason Moore]

But he's not a 1.

[Andy Holloway]

But he's not a 1. It's kind of the sentiment and I think that just brings the one player I'm excited about on this whole entire roster is Austin Severian Jenkins.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Because pass catcher wise, Robbie Anderson, Quincy and Nunois, look, they need help and Austin Safari and Jenkins will be there. And I think if McCown takes the job as a quarter as the starting quarterback, which is still up in the air. But if he does, he's shown that he can produce fantasy value even in bad situations. He's played for every team in the NFL three or four times. And if he lands in New York and gets some starting opportunities, maybe you see a little, you know, McCown Barnage kind of connection that with ASJ, you.

[Mike Wright]

Do have to Wait, though, what's the suspension? Is it one, two? It's two.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So I was going to say you don't draft Austin Safari and Jenkins because then you'll have to draft another tight end and that having two tight ends on a normal roster is terrible.

[Andy Holloway]

It's abhorrent to you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it is abhorrent to me. I'm not excited about any of these wide receivers. Quincy Newmar might be okay. As you know, your fourth wide receiver, a flex option. Weekly matchups. I believe that there will be production from the wide receivers, but these are streamers because it's going to be based on what quarterback is playing. I'm fully convinced that we see at least three quarterbacks play this year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I wouldn't doubt that.

[Jason Moore]

McCown, Hackenberg, even Bryce Petty, who's not getting love. And I'll tell you still, just like last year, when Bryce Petty goes in, I'm going to throw Robbie Anderson in my lineup for sure because it's the only guy he targets. So you just need to wait and look at jets wide receivers. I believe in season versus taking the draft pick. Flyer on nailing down who it's going to be because it might start that way, but I think it'll change throughout the season.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Quincy in the back of the ninth.

[Jason Moore]

Well, no, I'll take Quincy.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I guess I'm saying like Darius Stewart or Robbie Anderson or. I think they'll. I think some of those guys are going to have production, but whoever starts with it, I don't think is just going to continue all year.

[Andy Holloway]

The problem with a team like this too is we can say all we want about garbage time, but you have to be like, this is a team that I think against really good defenses, they just won't score. I mean, they're not going to score a lot. Their yardage won't be there, so you will have to stream them. There will be a matchup dependency and I'm sure there'll be some diamonds in there, but they're just gonna be hard to find.

[Jason Moore]

It won't be Chandler, Cat and Zorro.

[Andy Holloway]

He's still in the league, Jay. Sorry.

[Jason Moore]

He's Catman.

[Andy Holloway]

Is he your boom boom? No, he will never the summer.

[Jason Moore]

He's my bust bust kicker of the summer.

[Andy Holloway]

The bus bus kicker. All right. Hey, we're gonna wrap it up now. We're wrapping it up. We got the NFC tomorrow. Yes, tomorrow. We're five days a week. Subscribe review on itunes. It's go time. Let us know. Give us your feedback on twitter @the ffballers. We are here for you. We want to make this a successful, fun, awesome season. And, you know, just do what we do.

[Jason Moore]

Go football.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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