Fantasy Football 2017 - Title Talk, Studs & Duds, Week 17 Waivers

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Podcast Summary: Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football 2017 - Title Talk, Studs & Duds, Week 17 Waivers

Release Date: December 26, 2017
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
Podcast: Fantasy Footballers - The Fantasy Footballers Podcast

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1. Season Championship Highlights

Andy Holloway opens the episode by celebrating the culmination of the fantasy football season. The hosts discuss their personal league championships, with a humorous nod to Jason Moore's consecutive listener league victories.

• Jason Moore shares his experience in the Dynasty League championship:
  "[02:16] Jason Moore: ... Des Bryant, Evan Angrum and Michael Crabtree combined gave me 5.6 points."
  He reflects on his challenging matchup against Andy, highlighting unexpected low scores from key players.

Mike Wright commends Jason's back-to-back listener league championships, teasing about open spots for listeners next year and awarding a "loser trophy" to Jason's opponent.

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2. Todd Gurley: The Fantasy MVP Debate

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Todd Gurley and his pivotal role in fantasy playoffs. The hosts debate Gurley's performance, his matchup advantages, and his potential MVP candidacy.

• Jason Moore expresses unwavering support for Gurley:
  "[04:12] Jason Moore: ... I believe you should be the MVP of the NFL because you have carried the Los Angeles Rams into the playoffs."

• Andy Holloway counters by highlighting Gurley's exceptional playoff performance:
  "[02:16] Andy Holloway: ... Todd Gurley put up, I think the all-time highest points in fantasy championship weeks."

The hosts agree on Gurley's impact but acknowledge the upcoming challenging defenses he will face, questioning if he will maintain his performance.

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3. Season’s Studs & Duds: Player Performance Breakdown

The trio delves into standout performances and disappointments across various positions.

Running Backs:

• Jason Moore laments unexpected low scores from Des Bryant, Evan Ingram, and Michael Crabtree, leading to his championship loss.
• Mike Wright discusses DeMarco Murray's knee sprain and its implications for fantasy owners.
• Devonta Freeman is highlighted as a significant letdown, especially with critical fumble situations:
  "[43:03] Jason Moore: ... he had the ball on the one-yard line twice."

Wide Receivers:

• Larry Fitzgerald delivers a strong performance with a touchdown and impressive yardage, maintaining his relevance despite team struggles.
  "[26:00] Mike Wright: ... Larry has been Pro Bowl Larry all year long."

• DeAndre Hopkins continues to dominate, showcasing his reliability:
  "[29:10] Jason Moore: He's not better than Antonio Brown, but he's certainly right there."

• Julio Jones and Keelan Cole receive praise for their consistent performances, with Cole being recommended for Week 17 waivers.

Tight Ends:

• Eric Ebron emerges as a reliable tight end, overcoming previous inconsistencies:
  "[32:25] Jason Moore: ... Eric Ebron is 24 years old. First-round tight end."

• Antonio Gates is recommended as a top tight end pickup for Week 17 due to his consistent target volume and touchdown potential.

Quarterbacks:

• Jimmy Garoppolo (Jimmy G) is lauded for his strong performances and is encouraged as a valuable streamer:
  "[36:12] Andy Holloway: ... Jason, you've picked my guy from last week."

• Dak Prescott faces criticism for his performance decline in the latter half of the season, with discussions on his future outlook:
  "[40:08] Mike Wright: ... Dak was one of my guys this year, but he's based on film-wise been a bad quarterback."

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4. Rising Stars: Promising Players to Watch

The hosts identify emerging talents who could significantly impact fantasy leagues.

• Matt Burritta of the San Francisco 49ers is highlighted for his impressive performances under uncertain roster conditions:
  "[34:16] Andy Holloway: ... Matt Burrito has done enough this year to impress me."

• Keelan Cole is recommended for his hot streak and favorable matchup against Tennessee:
  "[37:18] Andy Holloway: ... Keelan Cole has been on fire."

• Jimmy Garoppolo continues to rise, with Mike Wright noting his decorated season and potential:
  "[35:48] Jason Moore: ... Jimmy Garoppolo has been unbelievable what he has done in the past four starts."

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5. Week 17 Waiver Wire Recommendations

The trio provides strategic advice for last-minute roster moves to secure Week 17 victories and potential titles.

Wide Receivers:

• Keelan Cole and Dede Westbrook are top recommendations due to their recent performances and favorable matchups.
• Brandon Oliver is suggested as a viable backup option if Melvin Gordon remains injured.

Tight Ends:

• Antonio Gates is the primary recommendation, with Eric Ebron as a solid alternative.

Quarterbacks:

• Jimmy Garoppolo and Blake Bortles are advised as valuable streamers, especially against struggling defenses.

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6. News and Notes: Injuries & Coaching Changes

The hosts discuss recent NFL news impacting fantasy football:

• Melvin Gordon is in a walking boot, affecting the Los Angeles Chargers' playoff hopes.
• Bruce Arians reportedly not stepping down as Cardinals coach, countering earlier rumors.
• Injuries to key players like Joe Mixon, Samaj P. Ryan, and Sterling Shepherd are analyzed for their fantasy implications.

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7. Final Thoughts and Upcoming Episodes

As the episode concludes, the hosts tease upcoming content, including deeper playoff scenario analysis and fan mail segments. They encourage listeners to engage with their community and prepare for the new fantasy season.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jason Moore on Gurley's MVP Status [05:24]:
  "I believe you should be the MVP of the NFL because you have carried the Los Angeles Rams into the playoffs."

• Andy Holloway on Jason's Championship [07:12]:
  "Jason managed against all odds on this earth... Congrats to you, Jason."

• Mike Wright on Keelan Cole [37:18]:
  "Keelan Cole has been scorching hot. I'm absolutely staying in the flames."

• Jason Moore on Dak Prescott [40:08]:
  "Dak was one of my guys this year, but I'm basing this off of film. He's a bad quarterback."

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Conclusion

This episode of the Fantasy Footballers provides a comprehensive review of the fantasy football season, spotlighting critical player performances, strategic waiver wire advice, and insightful discussions on upcoming fantasy football trends. Whether you're prepping for Week 17 battles or gearing up for the next season, the Fantasy Footballers deliver expert analysis and engaging commentary to enhance your fantasy experience.

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, Foot Clan. Today's show is brought to you by fantasychamps.com Jason, you're a champ.

[Jason Moore]

Wee.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I am back to back listener league champion and I'm going to fantasychamps.com to get myself a championship ring.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they got trophies, championship belt, customizable trophy. It's going to be great.

[Jason Moore]

A jersey.

[Andy Holloway]

They have only metal engraved placards, so none of that cheap stuff. You get a trophy for your league, you get to put all of the past champions bling bling.

[Mike Wright]

You can get a ring, you get a loser trophy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, use our code ballers though, when you go fantasychamps.com.

[Brooks]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from the Play Draft Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Ah, welcome in one and all. Merry Christmas to a wonderful Tuesday episode of the Fantasy footballers. It is December 26th. We hope you had a wonderful holiday with the family. I know I did and I'm excited. This show is jam packed today. We're gonna probably bounce around a little bit, muse on all the things that have happened. We'll have studs and duds, we'll have rising stars. We'll have some Week 17 waiver talk and QB streamers. And I'm gonna start though with that hashtag Foot Clan title discussion.

[Mike Wright]

Tweet it out.

[Andy Holloway]

There are many of us that you know. Are many of you out there that you know? You want to know a lay of the land? What happened in our various leagues? Mike, who Mike and I took, took each other on in the Dynasty League championship match.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, we did. And my team did not show up between. Let's see, I got to do a little some quick math calculations here. Des Bryant, Evan Angrum and Michael Crabtree combined gave me 5.6 points.

[Andy Holloway]

Which would be what, like one eighth of what Todd Gurley put up?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it was.

[Jason Moore]

I mean I had some excellent performances. I went with the heart of stone.

[Andy Holloway]

I played Mike Gillesley successfully over Carlos Hyde.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Carlos Hyde was. Ended up being better because.

[Mike Wright]

Apparently unsuccessfully.

[Jason Moore]

Well, but you know, double digit points. Sure, that's what you want from a flex. I played Gilly and. But those three guys, they absolutely buried me and I'm a loser.

[Andy Holloway]

Todd Gurley.

[Jason Moore]

Todd Gurley and the Tennessee Titans. I don't know what the crap was going on with that defense, but they forgot that Todd Gurley can catch a football.

[Andy Holloway]

Todd Gurley, I think you said it this morning. He put up, I think the all time highest point in fantasy championship weeks in terms or playoff. Fantasy playoff weeks. It Is a wonderful feeling. I've seen a lot of people on Twitter that won on the back of Gurley. Obviously, I feel great because I backed Gurley throughout the year and I even put my money where my mouth was, Traded everything to get him in the Dynasty League. And I have seen a lot of people reach out, you know, Mike, and give you a hard time a little bit. And there is something you forgot about from earlier in the year.

[Jason Moore]

What did I forget about?

[Andy Holloway]

So I just want to remind you that you owe the people something. And I'm going to take us back in time for just a minute.

[Mike Wright]

Oh.

[Jason Moore]

But my concern with Todd Gurley is, I mean, everyone is super pumped now. And next week he gets Dallas.

[Mike Wright]

That's a good.

[Jason Moore]

That's another good matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

But after that, Seattle, Arizona, it goes.

[Mike Wright]

Seahawks, Jaguars, Cardinals, Giants, Texans, Vikings. It's six.

[Jason Moore]

That is six vomit worthy of the.

[Mike Wright]

Top 10 defenses right in a row.

[Jason Moore]

So while I've been on board for Todd Gurley in these matchups, but here, the. That's the big, like, stamp, the rub.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Where the rubber meets the road. I was trying to avoid a cliche, but when he starts playing those defenses and everyone's like, yeah, you should have apologized for Gurley. If he crushes in those games, that's when I would issue the apology. Oh, hit the music then. Let's get it over with. Todd Gurley, my friend. My. My new friend. Yeah, my old friend. I loved you coming out of college very much. I backed. There was. There was the big Todd Gurley, Melvin Gordon debate, and I was ferociously on the side of Todd Gurley. Jeff Fisher ruined everything. Everything. He ruined my reputation. He ruined my. My sentiments of Utah, Gurley, because last year it looked really bad. And this year, this year, I believe you should be the MVP of the NFL because you have carried the Los Angeles Rams into the playoffs. No one else has affected a team so much as Todd Gurley. And you are the fantasy mvp.

[Andy Holloway]

I am beautiful.

[Jason Moore]

I am truly sorry.

[Andy Holloway]

Todd Gurley. I. I appreciate that. It feels like, you know, that puts a bow on the season. I give you. I gave you credit this morning. I mean, you. You heard it there in the clip. That was an early clip this year. And the beginning part of the clip that I didn't play was where you actually had Gurley that week ranked one spot higher than I did. And then Jason did. So you were never stubborn about Todd Gurley success. You just simply questioned the ability for that offense, offensive line, the new head coach, to do what they've Done this year where Gurley now has, what, 18 touchdowns on the year. Also, I think he should be the mvp. I think Brady will probably win it, but I think it should be girl.

[Jason Moore]

I think it would be a travesty if Tom Brady won the MVP this year. But on top of that, another point when we talk about don't overemphasize the play of the fantasy playoffs, the schedule, I mean, I fell victim to it as well because Philly and Seattle looked like really, really bad matchups. And of course, Seattle suffered a multitude of injuries. Not that I think Todd Gurley, maybe he dominates them if they're healthy, but things change very, very quickly in the NFL. That's true. Todd Gurley is king this year.

[Andy Holloway]

Now. I want to focus now on a different championship. And that would be Jason. Jason managed against all odds on this earth. I don't know how it happened. We joke about Magic Christmas, but everybody out there should be really, really thankful because Jason has managed to win the listener league two years in a row. And that means that 11 spots will be open for listeners next year. Normally, if a listener wins that league, they are invited back the next year, but Jason has squashed that.

[Mike Wright]

That's right. You actually call for the people. You actually called the loser. I called Brian on the phone. He has been asking, nay begging for me to call him this season. I said no.

[Andy Holloway]

You figured you'd be calling to concede because your team was as awful as it can possibly be.

[Mike Wright]

Absolutely. It was a hot pile of steamy garbage. And I lost Alfred Morris and Hunter Henry and Antonio Brown. And I called my shot. I said I was going to play strong defense.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And a little bit of magic. And I was going to win with about 75 points for the people.

[Andy Holloway]

Unreal.

[Mike Wright]

Sorry, Brian.

[Andy Holloway]

Unreal. So congrats to you, Jason.

[Mike Wright]

Your loser trophy is in the mail.

[Andy Holloway]

You definitely need to send him one. All right, you can follow us on twitter@the ff ballers. The website's the fantasy footballers.com and a reminder, this is a year long show. So we will be here not just through week 17, but on into the new year. We'll bring out the truth episodes where we will tell you the truth about the rankings and where people ended up in 2017, who you can trust going into 2018, who will be free agents, who will be interesting Dynasty pickups. We'll even be mentioning a couple of those guys on the rising stars part of today's show. But a lot is coming in January and February. Honestly, it's just plain fun and don't forget the footies.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my goodness.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, that's up next week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, Very, very world renowned.

[Jason Moore]

I have a feeling Todd Gurley's trophy manta will be full of footies. Full of footies.

[Andy Holloway]

Nothing.

[Mike Wright]

He would be more proud of stockings on a man.

[Andy Holloway]

We need to have him back on the show, but with a. I was gonna say with like a better cell phone than whatever he used last time. He's calling from a phone. He should be able to afford it.

[Jason Moore]

Like maybe Max's foot phone from Get Smart.

[Andy Holloway]

We normally have NFL players give us an intro when we have them on the show, they give us an intro for the beginning of the podcast. We got David Johnson, Alan Robinson and those guys. And we tried to get Gurley to do that. And what did it sound like it was? Yeah, we haven't been able to use the M1. All right, don't forget shotballers.com you can get that foot clan title T shirt. I want to talk news.

[Brooks]

News and notes from around the league.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Anthony Lynn said that Melvin Gordon's left foot is in a walking boot after sustaining an ankle injury. That's going to hurt the playoff hopes of the Los Angeles Chargers.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, Certainly will.

[Andy Holloway]

Joe Mixon left with an ankle injury and he left early once again. This is the second time in about four weeks that he really hurt fantasy owners. He was my start of the week.

[Jason Moore]

Got into, what are you gonna do, man?

[Andy Holloway]

The guy gets hurt and then he goes down.

[Mike Wright]

And in fairness, you did say your start of the week was either him or Gio.

[Andy Holloway]

The problem is that he. He was active, so he probably started mixing, which. And Gio had a monster game.

[Jason Moore]

Gio's success. All the Joe Mixon owners are looking at what Bernard was able to do in that matchup. Going, oh, man, what I know. What could have been for Joe.

[Andy Holloway]

Samaj p Ryan exited with an Achilles injury. Capri Bibs will be on the week 17 waivers.

[Jason Moore]

He's coming in hot.

[Andy Holloway]

Hiccups. Sterling shepherd suffered a neck injury in week 16 against Arizona. I had been off of him that morning. I answered a bunch of questions and most of the time didn't choose shepherd just because of the Patrick Peterson Cardinals defense. How it's played and this is unfortunate. He'd been dealing with some migraines. Now he's got a neck injury. We don't know much more. Evan Ingram, you're left with a rib injury. He let you down in the fancy playoffs. Nothing he could do about it.

[Jason Moore]

But so just for some context here, of My matchups with Andy, we played twice and I was defeated twice by Andy. But in those two matchups, top five fantasy tight end Evan Ingram. Those two matchups combined give me 1.7 points. Andy's defense on Evan Ingram is. Is unparalleled.

[Andy Holloway]

I had a meeting with the guys and I said, look, guard the middle of the field, put an extra man on him and then hurt his ribs.

[Jason Moore]

Ridiculous.

[Mike Wright]

And they think it was the ribs part that really worked out the best.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it was like, good job, Greg Williams. You know, fantasy owners, they go through so much. But Mike's only hopes were for Ingram and Des in those afternoon games to have big games. And within about five minutes, Ingram is like wincing on every play and DEZ is constantly going to the sideline. And it's like, that's not fair.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, It's. It's not.

[Andy Holloway]

DeMarco Murray sprained his knee. Another MRI coming today that, you know. Henry. Fine, Henry.

[Jason Moore]

We did it, everybody.

[Andy Holloway]

This is.

[Jason Moore]

We need it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

When you don't need it. Trevaris Cadet out for the season, dislocated ankle. That's a unfortunate. He actually had looked pretty good behind McCoy. And then there was some news that broke this morning. This is not definitive. My confidence in this report is not 100%, but there was a report by Pro Football Weekly that Bruce Arians and the Cardinals are agreeing to part ways after the year.

[Jason Moore]

Won't shock me at all.

[Andy Holloway]

If Arians goes, I think it's going to increase the likelihood that Palmer and Fitzgerald retire. I doubt Fitzgerald, despite just reaching the hundred catch mark for the third straight year. Incredible. I mean, he's such a good player still, right? Whether he'll want to go through the new quarterback, new coach, new offense, potentially. You know, Bruce Arians has a very distinct offense and has maximized Larry Fitzgerald's success. It seems more like now. A lot of people saw the extension that he signed, but that extension that he signed only guaranteed that he'd just be in Arizona. If he came back this year, he can still retire. You saw Kurt Warner do this in Arizona a while back.

[Jason Moore]

I think it's a really. I imagine this is the hardest thing for a football player is leaving something left like Kurt Warner did. Like, you know, that you're. That you have the juice. Your body can give you at least a year or two left, but for the general well being of the rest of your life, it's probably the better thing to do is just to walk away. And I, I'm with Andy. If Bruce leaves, I think Fitz leaves. I think Palmer leaves.

[Andy Holloway]

It's now with how Jimmy G's playing and the Rams are playing, this might be a tough couple years for both Seattle and Arizona. Seattle's gonna have to rework some of their defense with the money I have.

[Jason Moore]

To pull my trash bag out of the trash.

[Andy Holloway]

Ah well I have yeah, I've got my face. Got a bunch of those from about 19, you know, 1990s through 2000. I did want to share a couple little Foot Clan title tweets that we got a lot of people congratulations on your success. And I know that not everybody won. A lot of you went out there and you faced Todd Gurley. A lot of you went out there and you had Michael Crabtree, Alshon Jeffrey. I mean Mike and I's matchup was well in hand but we had. I had Jeffrey, he had Crabtree. Just imagine going into Monday night. I don't want to and needing a.

[Mike Wright]

Point having both of those guys on your roster.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh I mean people have long memories for these type of things and Michael Crabtree and Allison Jeffries draft stock might go down simply, you know, a few picks just because of what they did this year.

[Jason Moore]

I'm a scoop up so much cheap Michael Crabtree next year.

[Andy Holloway]

What in the happened though with Michael Crabtree?

[Jason Moore]

We don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

He was on the field for 44% of snaps and I counted at least the last eight drives he wasn't on the field at all. I mean what, what are you doing Oakland? I mean this offense looks terrible with this offensive coordinator.

[Jason Moore]

Right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I was going to say they'll have some coaching changes and that will be good news for the offense.

[Andy Holloway]

But his odds of catching passes went down without him on the field. Right. I mean 0% to 0%. People who needed him didn't even have the hope. I mean 17 targets last week, two touchdowns. Let's not use them. Let's just keep him off the field. I mean I kept waiting for a news report to come through that he had been concussed or that he was in the tent or something happened and nothing's come out.

[Jason Moore]

It'll be very interesting if this is an injury or if this was a off the field.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Type of incidents.

[Andy Holloway]

Got mad on the sideline at the coaches because he's not getting targets or something and then they take it off the field. But yeah, very unfortunate. Jeffrey and Crabtree destroyed people. Will wrote and he said first year foot clan title was down 26 points on Monday night, came back and got the W. Nice. Brian Morris three straight Years in the championship game, finally got the Foot Clan title. That's pretty sweet perseverance. This one's from ffb. A tweeter has no name. He said, got that hashtag Foot Clan title going against Gurley.

[Mike Wright]

It can be done.

[Andy Holloway]

It can be done. Yeah. You got to just give yourself odds everywhere else. George Lopez, dear @ffballer started playing and listening to you. In 2015, made the playoffs, came in in third. Then last year, two finals, one title. And then this year made it back to the finals. George again, another Foot Clan title. Pretty sweet. Lot of, lot of people.

[Jason Moore]

Something I also should have when I was musing on Todd Gurley. Just the. In the ultimates, you know, spittoon in my face. The. The team that I had, Todd Gurley, I lost in the semifinals.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, no.

[Jason Moore]

Because I got matched up against my brother in law who had the absolute perfect lineup for that week. It's like everyone's winning titles with Todd Gurley. I reluctantly drafted him on this one team and then I lose. It's ridiculous.

[Andy Holloway]

Crazy. Tomorrow we will go through all the playoff scenarios and break down a little bit more of what we expect teams to be doing. The Eagles are really the one team that have the biggest question marks in regards to who's going to be playing, whether they'll be playing. Doug Peterson has come out and said he's not deciding that till Wednesday, but they're kind of the team to avoid, so to speak. If you're In a Week 17 title game, talk through some of the big studs that won people titles.

[Brooks]

This week's fantasy stud muffins.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Jason, you handily won your Jared Goff case Keenum bet. Goff. Goff came out.

[Jason Moore]

Give him the horn, man. Come on, King Godfrey, he's. You treat royalty appropriately.

[Andy Holloway]

You're absolutely right. 301 passing yards, four touchdowns, which is incredible.

[Mike Wright]

Almost half of his passing yards were just screenshot Gurley.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, those are working. Those are working really well. Another one of those, you know, incredible wisdom from Jeff Fisher, who tried to take credit for this team.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

Ah, yeah, Mike, you were.

[Jason Moore]

That is.

[Andy Holloway]

Just explain what happened.

[Jason Moore]

So Jeff Fisher, without using the exact words, basically said that he left the team in a very good position. And like, you're welcome, Sean McVeigh. I mean, come on. Come on. You. You have got to be kidding me.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he never threw screens to Todd Gurley.

[Jason Moore]

No, he did not. He didn't use Gurley. Gurley, like last year, was forced into a passing role because of Benny Cunningham's injury. But it's like, why, why are you not doing this? This is what he did in college. He profiled as a three down back and you're using him as a two down thumper.

[Mike Wright]

It's setting up those screens too. It's yes. The design of the play that Sean McVay has brought. It's not just, oh, the play's breaking down, check down. These are designed beautiful screens.

[Jason Moore]

I really, really want to know if Sean McVay and this is legit. I'm not joking right now. I want to know, did Sean McVay grow up playing Madden? Like, are we entering an era of these new coaches have grown up calling plays, managing teams because I mean if you look at high level Madden players, this is serious business. And you learn where matchups are to be exploited, you learn how to call an offense. I would, it would shock me if he's like, no, I never played it.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike is trying to get a head coaching job in the NFL right now with his pedigree in.

[Jason Moore]

Matt, you need an oc.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm ready. Throw it to Crabtree.

[Jason Moore]

Put me in.

[Andy Holloway]

Coach Kirk Cousins. Blake Bortles, start of the week. Blake Bortles. Oh man, that was garbage time, right?

[Jason Moore]

It was. I tweeted this was the ultimate Bortles because this is. Bortles is Bortling and now he is Bortling. Yeah, because we went from the good Bortles, now he stinks, to now he's just the garbage time man. And, and to be fair, oh, the darkest man can.

[Andy Holloway]

This was a crazy game. 382 and three. But he threw.

[Jason Moore]

I actually think he really.

[Andy Holloway]

Three picks, two, two touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

He weathered the storm. I mean one of those picks guaranteed was on Keelan Cole.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we talked about that.

[Jason Moore]

But Bortles, it was garbage time. But at Bortles, once everything settled down at the beginning he. I thought he played quite well. Yet again.

[Andy Holloway]

Jimmy G, Joe Flacco, Big Ben, Jimmy.

[Mike Wright]

Garoppolo, my goodness, he did the impossible. Nobody has been able to throw on the Jacksonville Jaguars at all. And all he does is put up 242 yards, two touchdowns, all with rushing. Touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

With Day 3 rookies to throw to. I mean next year you get Pierre Gauche on back. We already like Marquis Goodwin and I think they'll add some weapons to this offense. Things are looking up for the four. And oh, Jimmy Garoppolo, we'll talk about him later. I mean, incredible. Todd Gurley, Dion Lewis, gio Bernard.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

C.J. anderson.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, C.J. came through in the playoffs. I hope you played him.

[Andy Holloway]

He did come through. 16 for 88 and a touchdown, 7 for 45 on nine targets. I mean, nine targets you're talking about.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, because he's good.

[Mike Wright]

Added a two point conversion.

[Jason Moore]

He's good.

[Mike Wright]

He is. He's very good. The question I have is, will he be a Bronco? Next year's contract is.

[Jason Moore]

I'll check it real quick.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you can look into some of the contract info.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, well, who else? Bill All. Powell had the big game, which was kind of like, you know, you had your odds on hopes that Blau Powell would be the guy for New York. He was 19 for 145 and a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

He looked great.

[Andy Holloway]

If you took a chance on him, you got. He got paid off. Melvin Gordon was good. Kareem Hunt was good. Lev Bell, the big guys. Outside of that, is there somebody that really impressed you in the stud. Stud running back category?

[Jason Moore]

The one I would like to talk about. Jordan Howard touchdowned his way in because he was 22 for 44 on the ground. But the guy I want to talk about is Dion Lewis, who is, I.

[Andy Holloway]

Mean, took full advantage of no Rex Burkhead.

[Jason Moore]

I love Rex Burkhead and I love Mike Gillisle. But you knew coming into the season that Dion Lewis is likely the best running back on the roster. But can he stay healthy enough that they're able to utilize him? And he's back, man, 24 carries going into next year, it will be very interesting to see what the Patriots do. Because Rex Burkitt was only a one year contract, I would expect he's back. Mike Gillesley was a two year. I would expect him to be gone. So it's just what, what will be. What will Dion Lewis be next year?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, it's a good question.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's hard. I will say this. If he comes back and appears to be the starter, I won't be drafting him. I won't be drafting him high. Because what you've seen, there will be stretches where he's awesome. There were stretches where Gillislee was awesome. There were stretches where Burkhead was awesome. And you'll see that again next year. It's a Patriots running back. They fooled me this year. They fooled me in the beginning.

[Andy Holloway]

Phillies kind of run in that offense right now too, right. Philadelphia with Blunt Clement. Wendell Smallwood's been a healthy scratch. This was a guy who you thought might be the starter at the beginning of the year. By the way, before we talk about stud muffins at the wide receiver Position. We do want to thank fantasychamps.com oh yes. They are your home for fantasy football trophies, fantasy football rings, fantasy championship belts which are custom engraved fantasy football draft boards and awards and plaques and all that good stuff. And now they're brand new fantasy football jerseys. They have the best designs. They're perfect for your league, in your office, wherever you want to show off your fantasy football greatness. And look, these are high quality items, high quality options to celebrate that foot clan title, to celebrate a great season and to make your league a little bit special. So check them out. Fancychamps.com use the promo code ballers to get 10% off.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

So much. And there's new stuff every single day. That's what's, that's just an extra part. That's fantastic. About Pristine Auction is you can just put it in that routine of you're looking for a certain thing every day. You got to jump on and check every single day because it could be up there. Hundreds of daily auctions and the prices are fantastic. This is just a couple of things that these were auctioned yesterday. David Johnson signed Cardinals jersey only $91.

[Andy Holloway]

Nice.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's talk about wide receiver stud muffins before we move to wide receivers.

[Jason Moore]

Just an update for CJ Anderson. He, they have him under contract for two years, about four and a half million per year. But they can cut him for zero dead money this offseason.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, okay.

[Mike Wright]

That was my worry.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, we'll definitely be talking about a number of these players that have situations similar to CJ Anderson and where we think they're going to go on future episodes. Larry Fitzgerald 9 for 119 and a touchdown on 15 targets. Larry also completed a 21 yard pass for the first time in his career. What did you think of Larry's performance?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man. I mean when he is at home, he is the centerpiece of the Cardinals. So they've lost, you know, John Brown, even though he actually you did. He scored him. Yes. You saw him this week. For all intents and purposes, they lost him. They lost David Johnson, they lost Carson Palmer. But Larry has been Pro Bowl Larry all year long. He is unbelievable. And I'm glad because if this was his final game playing for the hometown team, I'm glad that he gets to go out with nine for 119 and a touchdown, throwing passes, just looking like the star he has always been. For the Arizona fans play Seattle next week.

[Andy Holloway]

A Seattle team that they're playing for their lives right now up in Seattle. So I'm not as bullish on him traveling and performing this way on the road. But if you're starting Larry in week 17, I mean, he's, he's going to be on the field. You don't have to worry about him being benched. Hey, guys, really quick. What wide receiver do you think Larry is on the season?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, oh, great question.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to go seven.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to go five.

[Mike Wright]

I guess I'll go five.

[Andy Holloway]

Sorry, Jason.

[Mike Wright]

That's all right. I got it right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Three, three straight years of 100 plus receptions, 1,000 plus yards for Larry Fitzgerald. Oh, by the way, I'm going to rant for a second.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Dallas, listen to me because this performance by Dallas was embarrassing. And first of all, stop trying to pretend that Dez Bryant is 25 years old. He's not 25 years old anymore. Someone needs to come along in Dallas and do what Arizona did to Larry Fitzgerald for the Dallas Cowboys. They need to put DEZ in the slot. They need to move him around and use his size. They need to use those mitts of his and they need to put him in a position where he's not trying to play. He's 29 now and he's not the same player he used to be. But you're trying to use him like the same player. The only real reception he had was that play that broke down for Dak. I just think it's ridiculous. You're not using him to the way that you need to use him. He's not the same old DEZ Bryant.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, and I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

You're going to feel that in the draft, fantasy football drafts next year, by the way.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, he's going to plummet, but.

[Andy Holloway]

He'S still a red zone threat.

[Jason Moore]

He still has juice. You just have to figure out. Stop nine routing DEZ Bryant.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's not that player anymore.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Julio Jones came through. Ted ginn, big game. Four for 76 and a touchdown. Juju was doing nothing. And then along came one drive where he caught a bomb and then a 17 yard touchdown and had a great game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Led the team in targets.

[Jason Moore]

Juju Smith, Schuster has been. Not has. He's been great. But they have, they have found themselves a fantastic wide receiver. A compliment to Antonio Brown and this Steelers passing attack. I mean, with Antonio Brown and juju starting next season, they're going to be if.

[Mike Wright]

Big.

[Jason Moore]

Terrifying.

[Andy Holloway]

I was going to say it's all.

[Mike Wright]

A matter of whether or not Big Ben is back.

[Jason Moore]

That's. That's a very fair point. But I think whoever, whoever they bring in then is set up for a large amount of early success.

[Andy Holloway]

Fair. Stefan Diggs. DeAndre Hopkins. What a catch by Hopkins.

[Jason Moore]

That was insane.

[Andy Holloway]

Third time this year where Hopkins had basically been shut out in the first half against Arizona, against Jacksonville and then in this game against Pittsburgh and still gave you a fantasy game. He. If he's not the best wide receiver in football, he's certainly right there.

[Jason Moore]

He's not better than Antonio Brown, but.

[Andy Holloway]

He'S not better than Antonio Brown. I agree with that. But he might have. He offers you a little bit something different than Brown does in the fact that his vertical game in terms of going up and getting the ball and his hands.

[Jason Moore]

So having said all those amazing things, it was.

[Andy Holloway]

He can offensive pass interference on that incredible catch.

[Jason Moore]

There is the slow motion of him just grabbing a handful of the defenders.

[Mike Wright]

I had the game on mute when that play was happening. So I saw the play and I saw the replay and I was not sure if this was if they were showing oh, what an incredible grab. Like if they were talking about like that or if they're going, oh yeah, this is clear, you know, offensive pass interference best. Yeah, it was a great catch. But it was also.

[Andy Holloway]

That was Mike Tirico, right? Mike Tirico and Kurt Warner were calling that game. I'm telling you, that was the greatest thing either of them had ever seen in their entire life. They must have shown the replay 600 times. I mean, it was a great catch, don't get me wrong. But those two, they were like, I'm just so proud to be here to have witnessed that.

[Jason Moore]

It was really. The second toe tap was amazing.

[Mike Wright]

That part was.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, Tyreek Hill. Brooks, where's Tyreek Hill on the season? He came back 6 for 1.09. He also caught a touchdown. That didn't count.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's nonsense.

[Andy Holloway]

Where he caught the ball. Now see, he did what DeAndre Hopkins did. Caught it and then got both feet in and it didn't count as a.

[Jason Moore]

Touchdown because he got drop ruled. Brooks is looking it up.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to guess Tyree kills finish. I bet he is. I bet he's eight.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to go seven.

[Jason Moore]

We go nine.

[Andy Holloway]

Where's he at? Brooks? Ooh, wide receiver. Four.

[Mike Wright]

I win again.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

So though, I mean, that's half point ppr. That's an incredible season. We need to not. You might forget. I don't. You know, Tyree Kill. What a year. What a year. Keelan Cole, 6 for 108.

[Mike Wright]

We'll talk about him in a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. All right, then we won't talk about him now.

[Mike Wright]

All right. All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Antonio Gates, 6 for 81 on a touchdown in the absence of hunter Henry for 81.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, if you're.

[Andy Holloway]

That's pretty good.

[Mike Wright]

It's great.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's fantastic. That's what I'm saying is. Yeah, if you're the New York Jets. Antonio Gates is 62 years old.

[Mike Wright]

He is a lumbering tree out there right now.

[Andy Holloway]

How does this happen?

[Jason Moore]

Good for you, Antonio.

[Andy Holloway]

That's six of eight targets and he's. He's relevant for next year and he's relevant for the playoffs that they managed.

[Jason Moore]

To get in next week.

[Andy Holloway]

Next week, Next week.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I was just taking a task on that one.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no. Next week. Eric Ebron once again coming through. Five for 83 and a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

Gronk, just like always.

[Jason Moore]

Jason, where is your level of excitement for Eric Ebron next year?

[Andy Holloway]

Just enough success for Jason to be in on him next year.

[Mike Wright]

You're darn right it is.

[Jason Moore]

Because it hasn't been just enough.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, he's been awesome. Over. He's finally.

[Jason Moore]

Over the past three weeks. He is the tight end One.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. You're done, right?

[Andy Holloway]

And you want to know why he's not been hurt?

[Jason Moore]

Because he's catching the ball.

[Mike Wright]

Because he's catching the ball. He's always had the targets and the talent realize this. Eric Ebron is 24 years old.

[Andy Holloway]

First round tight end.

[Mike Wright]

You feel like Eric Ebron has been in there forever. Okay? He's 27. He's. He's 24. This is like when tight ends come into their prime.

[Andy Holloway]

But he's been the tight end, Rashad Perryman of tight ends. I mean, he constantly hurt, constantly dropping the ball and all of a sudden flashing so that Jason can Be all in on him next year since I.

[Mike Wright]

Won'T be all in since week 12.

[Jason Moore]

Since week 12 he has an 82.4 catch percent.

[Mike Wright]

What? He's just trying to make up for the years of drops.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a credit where credit is due. Let's talk. I'm surprised he's not your rising star, by the way. Let's talk our rising stars maybe.

[Brooks]

Raising canes. Rising stars of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Brooks really messed that drop up, guys. Brooks. Come on, man. All right. My rising star is Matt Burrida of The San Francisco 49ers. 11 for 71 and in touchdown. And this is under the dynasty header. If we don't know whether Carlos Hyde will be back on this roster next year and Matt Burrito has done enough this year to impress me. Had a big game. He's got some quicks now. It's funny because Carlos Hyde came out and, you know, proclaimed that the 49ers would win the super bowl next year.

[Mike Wright]

Did he really?

[Andy Holloway]

So he's clearly planning to be there.

[Jason Moore]

But he's posturing what he is doing.

[Andy Holloway]

And Hyde is good, but they've given Burrito a lot of opportunities this year. I wonder if it'll be him and another, you know, draft piece or whether Joe Williams ever gets to work himself into that rotation. But I think if you're in a dynasty league and he is somehow unowned or you could snag him, he's another one of those forward thinking pickups where you could go into next year with Jimmy G. Kind of a second year for Shanahan. Obviously Burrito was one of those guys that Shanahan picked and to be part of this offense. So I think he's an interesting dynasty play.

[Jason Moore]

I would go more of a keeper league because I imagine he's owned in the majority of dynasty leagues. Andy's right though. If somehow he's just laying around, oh, shame on you. Pick him up. But for a keeper league, if you have the rules that through week 17, whoever is on your roster at the end of week 17, they are keeper eligible, I would scoop them up. Absolutely. And just in case Carlos Hyde leaves.

[Andy Holloway]

Town, similar to, you know, last year, guys like Burkhead.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Where you could kind of just pick them up just to see what would happen.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely. And I, I think Carlos Hyde is definitely posturing. They're going to have to show him the big dollars, like really big dollars if they want to keep him after what they have, what they did to him this offseason.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think they'll do it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I don't think.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think they will.

[Mike Wright]

So I pay him.

[Jason Moore]

I think Carlos Hyde moves on to a different team.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Mike, why don't you stay with the 49ers here? And this nickname is outstanding.

[Jason Moore]

I did not come up with this. I wish I did, but. Jimmy gq.

[Andy Holloway]

Good looking man.

[Jason Moore]

Jimmy Garoppolo has been. I mean, unbelievable what. What he has done in the past four starts. Quarterback rating of 102.4 against the Jacksonville Jaguars. We talked about his line. 242 for 2. A very, very handsome quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Sneaker Touchdown shout out to handsome quarterback sneak.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

This is from Smiz on Twitter. He just. And I'm like, this is incredible. Like everything he does, you have to refer to it as a very handsome. Whatever. It's a very handsome pass.

[Andy Holloway]

Very funny.

[Jason Moore]

This is what I'll be doing moving forward.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Just letting the people know.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Letting everyone know that Jimmy GQ and I agree. If a second year or an entire offseason under Kyle Shanahan. We know that Kyle Shanahan quarterbacks put up fantasy numbers. Ask Matt Ryan.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

What it's like to play for Kyle Shanahan. So I'm very excited for Jimmy Garoppolo next year.

[Andy Holloway]

Looks like. Jason, you've picked my guy from last week.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Yes, I did. And he is continuing to rise. In fact, over the last four weeks, I have picked the guy who is the wide receiver. 3.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, this must be Julio or Hopkins. Yeah, Hopkins.

[Mike Wright]

No, it's Keelan Cole. Keelan Cole has been on fire. And I'm going to stoke those coals.

[Andy Holloway]

Keep them hot. Very nice.

[Mike Wright]

Next week, if you are one of those unfair, unfortunate, poor saps playing in week 17, first, stop it. And then second, put in Keela Cole. They're playing Tennessee. Tennessee has not been great against wide receivers. And Keela Cole's just been on fire. I'm absolutely staying in the flames.

[Andy Holloway]

I need to caution people though.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

And the reason I need to do that is because he did leave the game with an ankle injury in the fourth quarter. Part of that Bortles comeback attempt was without Cole on the field. So if Cole monitor his health issue. Otherwise he runs high percentage routes. I'm all aboard the Coltrane and I like it. I think he's Coltrane.

[Jason Moore]

It's another Jazz reference that's good with me.

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't even mean to say it and I like it a lot. But I'm all aboard because he runs those little crosser routes. And other than the one where he stopped and cost Blake Bortle. Bortle's a pick.

[Jason Moore]

He got it from the wide receivers coach.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, he did.

[Jason Moore]

He got the business.

[Andy Holloway]

Those are the Raising Canes, rising stars of the week. Matt Burrita, Jimmy GQ and Keelan Cole. Remember, game day tastes better with raising Canes, tailgates full of fresh 24 hour marinated hand battered chicken fingers and fresh brewed sweet tea.

[Jason Moore]

It's also a great way to start recovering from your championship loss.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you have some last night? Then visit raisingcanes.com by the way, to.

[Jason Moore]

Follow cannot confirm nor deny.

[Mike Wright]

You can celebrate your VICT or you can treat yourself in a loss. Either way, treat yourself.

[Andy Holloway]

Speaking of defeat.

[Brooks]

Pooped in his big boy pants.

[Andy Holloway]

Man, they were not diapers big enough to hold some of the things we got from fantasy players this week.

[Jason Moore]

No, there was not.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, where do you want to start? Do you want to start with Dak?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, unbelievable.

[Andy Holloway]

Is Tyron Smith the NFL mvp? Is that. Did we miss that? That's very possible because I mean Mike.

[Jason Moore]

He went out right away in the. If it wasn't the first play, it was the first three play.

[Andy Holloway]

It was three plays in Dak Prescott.

[Jason Moore]

Who, I mean, halfway through the year, Dak Prescott was cruising. Yeah, he was solid yet again. He was putting up great fantasy numbers. I mean, once again, Dak is not a type top three guy, but he gives you those top a quarterback one number every single week. And then halfway through with when the Zeke suspension hit and the Tyrone Smith injury hit, everything completely fell apart for Dak Prescott. It was extremely disappointing. Are you expecting a bounce back for Dak next year or is this, is this more the norm or is the first half more than norm?

[Mike Wright]

I think we're going to end up landing somewhere in between, but there have been holes that have been exposed. You know, when he was behind that line with Ezekiel Elliott, you at that time, Dak was set up for success. Everything worked well and he was never asked to do too much right and he was able to succeed with, you know, in that world. Now, if your team is not as good, if your defense isn't as good, if your running back is missing or your left tackle, you could see that there's a reason maybe he wasn't a first round pick. He's got some holes in his game and I think going forward next year. Look, Dak was one of my guys this year, one of my three my guys. I was super thrilled with him the first half of the year. Really believed in him. But I am basing this off of film. What I've seen with my eyeballs over the last two months really has been a bad quarterback. There's no other way to say it. He has missed throws, he's had poor decisions. Honestly, he, he just looks worse than Bortles. If you're just talking film. And I don't know that it's this bad. I think right now it's one of those when it rains, it pours. You're in your head. An off season will help. And I don't think he's going to come back and suck next year.

[Andy Holloway]

They've certainly had a lack of consistency on the offensive side when it comes to missing Zeke, the offensive line issues. You know, they signed Terrence Williams to a four year deal. He scored zero touchdowns this year. Zero.

[Jason Moore]

That was not.

[Andy Holloway]

And then DEZ isn't who you expect him to be. Jason Whitten is getting up there in age. I would not be surprised if this team comes out and makes a splash at the wide receiver position to fix that issue. Now he I put Dak in the same category I put Derek Carr in. I think, you know, most quarterbacks are in this category. You need to give them the ability to succeed with an offensive line that protects him. And Dak, Derek Carr, they both showed regression due to offensive line play. And then it got in their head like you said and just snowballed. I mean, Derek Carr is not as bad as he's been. He really isn't.

[Jason Moore]

I would hope not.

[Mike Wright]

Can't be.

[Andy Holloway]

Can't be. Marcus Mario is another absolute right in there. Their offensive line was decimated this year, couldn't run the ball and all of a sudden Mariota's no good. You know, even Jameis Winston regression from a lot of these second year, third year guys that, you know, you put them in a position to succeed, they're going to succeed. So they all need to do work. I mean, Derek Carr, Nick Foles, Case Keenum, those are some other poopers this week. I don't want to linger too long on some of these guys because we still have to get to waivers and we got to get to some streamers. But at the running back position, I think the biggest letdown for fantasy owners had to be Devonta Freeman.

[Jason Moore]

Has to be Devonta Freeman.

[Andy Holloway]

And because he was someone you counted on a lot of these other guys, you know, now McCaffrey's in that category and Kenyon Drake, yes, I would agree. But those three are really the guys you counted on and didn't deliver.

[Jason Moore]

But Devonta Freeman, in case you didn't watch the game and you were just tracking your fantasy scores, he had the ball on the one yard line twice.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it felt like half the game. Every time I looked, he was.

[Jason Moore]

He was the one turned into a fumble, the other. He's just getting stuffed. I mean, it's. That's just a really unfortunate, timed bad performance from Devonta Freeman.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, it was a make or break week for fantasy owners. And he fumbled on the goal line, got stuffed.

[Mike Wright]

And Kenyon Drake, you know, has been one of my favorite players. Let me down. I mean, catch a pass. That was what was the biggest issue was, especially when it came to the fourth quarter and you thought, oh, he's going to be the checkdown machine. He's been over the last several weeks. Zero receptions. It was so bizarre. And he was wide open. I'm watching this because I had Kenyon Drake in our championship game and I'm like, jay, what are you doing? He's there. Just keep dumping it. You'll move the ball instead. He wanted to throw it out of bounds, deep down the field, over and over.

[Andy Holloway]

Weird game for Jerick Buchanan. Really wasn't on the field very much. He let fantasy owners down. Jamal Williams, despite getting the work, having Hunley back, his is the same thing. No catches.

[Jason Moore]

His line is almost identical to Kenyan Drake. And if you just. You add three or four receptions to that line, he puts up a fine fantasy game. Come on, people.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike Davis's career ended on Sunday.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

15 for 25.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that was fun.

[Andy Holloway]

What is that one point?

[Jason Moore]

That was a fun ride.

[Andy Holloway]

Something per carry. J. Stu. Not good.

[Jason Moore]

Nope.

[Mike Wright]

Lamar Miller. I'll say this. Every time I saw him with a carry, he looked great.

[Jason Moore]

Right?

[Andy Holloway]

He didn't get very many carries. Alfred Blue had doubled the carries and had a much better game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they were. They were checking some things out. Krampus, six for seven. Doug Martin.

[Andy Holloway]

Doug Martin.

[Jason Moore]

Enjoy your retirement.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, well, sorry, that's. Whereas I was correct with Gurley there, I was not correct with Dougie.

[Mike Wright]

So I believe you mean Krampus.

[Andy Holloway]

Krampus, yes. Wide receivers, let's go.

[Jason Moore]

Michael Crabtree and a delightful goose.

[Andy Holloway]

Alshon. Jeffrey. How is that possible?

[Jason Moore]

It does not seem. Does not seem possible.

[Andy Holloway]

Do we need to linger for the sake of those that were suffered. That suffered with crack?

[Jason Moore]

No, Jeffrey, no. Just understand, Foot Clan, that if you went down in flames with these characters, we feel your pain because I too went down. Brooks, the judge himself went down in flames a Very, very good friend of ours who was watching the games with us. He. He got second place. He would have taken home $1,000 with one freaking catch.

[Andy Holloway]

One Crabtree catch.

[Jason Moore]

So we know it.

[Andy Holloway]

Unbelievable. Adam Thielen. It's been a few bad weeks in a row. What do you read into that? Diggs has been better than Thielen the last two weeks. Six targets, not quite what you're expecting. You know, a game where, what, they got Chicago on the docket next week and they still need to play to lock down that number two seed.

[Jason Moore]

I'm still going to trust him. But for Adam Thielen, who's been A stud wide receiver 1 the vast majority of the year, to come out and literally put up his two worst games.

[Andy Holloway]

Of the season, he's the inverse Girly.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. All I was. All I was thinking while realizing how bad he's been for the playoffs is how good a draft pick Adam Thielen is going to be next year. He's going to fall like crazy undervalued.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that going to happen?

[Mike Wright]

Let people down in a drastic way at the most important time. But going forward, even this year at home this week against Chicago, I would absolutely still be starting at a deal. In this last game, you know, I had shared last week, I was not that big a Case Keenum fan because it was very cold weather on the road in a game that could easily script out the passing. And, you know, at least this next week he's at home and I think that'll help Thielen quite a bit.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you make of Brandon Cook's recent run? Two receptions in week 13, one reception in week 14, four against Pittsburgh, had the touchdown and then two against Buffalo this week. So single digits below five points in three of the last four games. How's that going to impact his draft stock and should it? Was this first half of the year, Brandon Cooks, the one that was top 10, the real Brandon Cooks in this offense, or are we. Do we have cause for concern moving forward with Cooks even in week 17?

[Jason Moore]

It's funny because I had taken the L completely on Brandon Cooks. I thought he would be very inconsistent. But my projection for Brandon Cooks is he's going to be a wide receiver. One who doesn't feel like you ever had a wide receiver. One.

[Andy Holloway]

And for those technically a two now.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

For those who wrote him into the playoffs, you. It's going to feel like that even though he helped, he was a key piece in taking you to the playoffs. He let you down big time. And I think that this is not these numbers. But Brandon Cooks is.

[Mike Wright]

He's just.

[Jason Moore]

He's an inconsistent guy who is. He's a very gifted athlete. He's an. But he's an okay wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fair.

[Mike Wright]

I would just throw this out there and I don't know if it's the Achilles problem, but Brady, to me, has not looked anywhere near as good. Just film wise, not stat wise. When I watched the last, you know, section of the season as opposed to how he came out. And at some point you have to know, like, the age, the arm strength, it will catch up. Like, you know, it will. It did for Peyton Manning. And you saw his throws, you know, a little bit less and more errant and the accuracy start to dip. And so I do worry long term, you know, Brady can't give you another good three years, regardless of what he says. It would just be impossible.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Brady, statistically speaking, had a. Had a fine game. I mean, his quarterback rating was over 175% completion. 224 and two touchdowns. But he's not giving you those. He's not a guaranteed top five quarterback. That's a weird inflection quarterback every single week.

[Andy Holloway]

I think there'll be a lot of debate next year about the packers wide receivers. What do you do with Jordy Nelson in the draft? What do you do with Randall Cobb in the draft?

[Jason Moore]

That's going to be fun.

[Andy Holloway]

They both stunk this week. Josh Gordon had a down week at Chicago. Marvin Jones and Golden Tate, neither was very impressive. It seemed like Stafford decided to be a quarterback for a quarter, and then the rest of the game he just took it off. Took a knee at the tight end position. You know, this happened to you last year, Jason. But Greg Olson, he gives you this shiny star of a game last week and then comes out and gives 3 for 27 on 6 targets. Super disappointing outside of, you know, Olson, Delaney, Walker stung. Cameron Brait did not deliver on the hope that you had with O.J. howard out of the game. Otherwise, you know, that's pretty much it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, tight ends just. They pooped in their big boy pants this season.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we're going to blitz through some of these week 17 waiver pickups, guys. Let me know who you like.

[Brooks]

Put me in, coach.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, wide receivers, where are you looking?

[Mike Wright]

Assuming he's healthy, I still like Keelan Cole. I think the matchup in Tennessee should be really good. He's available in about half the leagues. He's just been scorching hot.

[Jason Moore]

If I. And I'LL just piggyback on that because D.D. westbrook is still available in half of leagues. I mean, of course, these percentages of owned, it's really hard to know how much that will translate to your league because most, most of leagues are done and so. But Keelan Cole, you could pick up both Keelan Cole and Dede Westbrook. It's possible. And if Keelan Cole is in, the reports are good. I'm going to play Cole.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

And if he's out, then DD Westbrook even gets a bigger bump.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I like that a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

You also have Kendall Wright had an okay game again. Chris Godwin if desean Jackson's out.

[Jason Moore]

But Josh Dachshund is back and play. I know it was only two catches, but he gets the Giants. And Kirk Cousins is playing for a new contract right now. He's playing. He's. He's showing off for his suitors.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I like him next week a lot.

[Jason Moore]

So I'm good playing Josh Dachshund, Derek.

[Andy Holloway]

Henry, the big running back pick.

[Mike Wright]

This is it.

[Andy Holloway]

And Gio Bernard if Joe Mixon's out.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, you know, especially with Henry, he's probably owned, but he might be owned by your team and now you just get to do it. But if he's out there, he'll be a monster. Even though it's a tough match, he's always a monster.

[Andy Holloway]

He's always built like a monster. It's just a matter of, you know, he hasn't had a lot of success this year either, outside of 70 yard runs when the game's out of the way in the fourth quarter. So I'm. I'm not that enthusiastic about him. But against Jacksonville, we'll see. Capri Bibs.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's a great pickup with Samaj P. Ryan dealing with another injury. He left because of the Achilles. Capri Bibbs also gets to play the Giants because he's also on Washington.

[Mike Wright]

You know, a name I wrote down before the show that I really liked was Brandon Oliver. We don't know the external of Melvin Gordon's injury, but I mean, if he's back, obviously Brandon Oliver is irrelevant. But if Melvin Gordon is out in a really important game against Oakland, you are correct.

[Jason Moore]

Brandon Oliver would be fed the ball a lot. Peyton Barber is Brandon Oliver.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. The Los Angeles Chargers running back.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Excellent. Peyton Barber has. Is the Santa Claus.

[Andy Holloway]

He's been getting the workload.

[Jason Moore]

He is the Santa Claus to Doug Martin's Krampus.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Because Peyton Barber has been solid. He gets to play the Saints. Not the best matchup. But you, you could certainly do worse. I think that he's a fine pickup.

[Andy Holloway]

By the way, following up on a previous comment. I told you I didn't have a lot of confidence in it. ESPN is now reporting multiple reporters at espn that Cardinals coach Bruce Arians does not plan to step down after the season.

[Jason Moore]

Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

And that the report is 100% not true. So that's a contradicting report. Therefore, we know nothing. So here's what I think. He's either going to be the coach or not, and we'll find out soon. Hot take tight end pickups Antonio Gates, Eric Ebron have to be the two big tight end pickups this week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, for sure.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

Which one would you grab?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I would grab Antonio Gates.

[Jason Moore]

I think I would, too.

[Andy Holloway]

Him and Philip Rivers have a. You know they have.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they've got that connection. He gets to play Oakland. Who the has been terrible against tight end on the season. That's where I think I would lean. But Eric Ebron is not a bad second place if Antonio Gates is not available.

[Mike Wright]

I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Outside of that, we're going to go ahead and jump into what we got quarterback streamers. Now. You got to give them cool. What is a quarterback streamer anyway?

[Mike Wright]

Quarterback streamer is one of those players you can grab off the waiver.

[Brooks]

Full stream ahead.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, I know. We'll just leave that in there. And the thing is, is today's show has like two shows packed into one. That's a lot of drops to keep track of Mini Ladon. And many of you out there, you don't know this, but when I, when I try to do a sound drop on the show, there's a lot of levers and dials involved. It's not very. It's not as simple as pushing a button that has a label on it.

[Jason Moore]

The best part of this, you turn.

[Andy Holloway]

The crank and is that Andy Holloway.

[Jason Moore]

As is one of the most organized people I know in my entire life and he refuses to organize the soundboard in a way that is manageable.

[Andy Holloway]

You're dead on with that one.

[Jason Moore]

It doesn't make sense.

[Andy Holloway]

It really doesn't. And you all get the benefit. Full stream ahead this week. I'm going with Jimmy G. Jimmy G takes on the handsome stream. It's a handsome stream. All right. Jimmy GQ against Los Angeles. He's just been good and I think it'll continue against Los Angeles this week. He's going on the road, but if you need somebody, you know, it's Slim Pickens. Down below that 50% ownership line at the quarterback position. I'll go with Jimmy G. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to go with last week's pump the brakes on Tyrod Taylor, which came through no touchdowns, but he scored.

[Andy Holloway]

281 yards this past week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Which is a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

Tyrod and playing for a playoff birth.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. He's got, you know, something to play for and going to Miami, I think he's. He's gonna be fine because of the rushing yardage.

[Jason Moore]

And I'm just taking the easy one here because you got to stay with this. I mean, you have to stay in the flames. That is Blake Portals.

[Mike Wright]

There's no way I'm playing Tyrod Taylor or even Jimmy G, who I love. Over portal.

[Andy Holloway]

Portals is the ultimate stream of.

[Jason Moore]

He gets to play the Tennessee Titans.

[Andy Holloway]

Who just gave up four touchdowns to Jared Goff.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So Blake Bortles is the play. And just in case your. Your waiver wire is very shallow. Joe Flacco is at home against the Bengals. They are playing for the playoffs, and Joe Flacco has been a very usable fantasy quarterback. And Jacoby, where's the beef? Brissette is at home against the Texans, so they are a solid consolation prizes, I think.

[Mike Wright]

I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

Week 17 with Jacoby Brissetta, quarterback. That is a fantastic football nightmare.

[Jason Moore]

That's what you get for playing week 17.

[Mike Wright]

That is absolutely accurate and true.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. There you go. That is it for today's episode. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll talk about some playoff scenarios and we'll get into the mailbag and do a bunch of other stuff on tomorrow's show, including pump the brakes and look. Congratulations to those of you that won. To those of you that had a great season and fought through a lot of adversity, as always, check out draft.comballers to hang out.

[Jason Moore]

Goodbye.

[Brooks]

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