Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 11 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Kenny Lives

Summary

Podcast Summary: Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast Episode: Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 11 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Kenny Lives
Release Date: November 20, 2017

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Introduction and Episode Overview

The Fantasy Footballers kick off Week 11 with a lively discussion about standout performances and underwhelming showings in the NFL, focusing on key players' impacts on fantasy lineups. Hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright delve into the intricacies of player performances, injuries, and strategic decisions that can make or break fantasy success.

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Studs & Duds of Week 11

Duds:

1. Nathan Peterman (Buffalo Bills)

   • Disappointment on the Field: Mike Wright humorously shares his disdain for Peterman’s performance, stating, “You guys all saw me with much delight celebrating his each and every interception” [13:05].
   • Fantasy Impact: Jason Moore questions the viability of starting Peterman, highlighting his high interception rate: “Some of those throws were just asinine” [01:22].

2. Dak Prescott (Dallas Cowboys)

   • Underperformance: Jason Moore expresses profound disappointment in Prescott’s game, likening it to parental disappointment: “I felt like a disappointed father” [46:35].
   • Injury Concerns: The absence of key players like Tyron Smith and Ezekiel Elliott exacerbates Prescott’s struggles, leading to significant fantasy repercussions.

3. Alex Smith (Arizona Cardinals)

   • Letdown Performance: Despite expectations, Smith failed to deliver, completing only a few passes in harsh weather conditions. Andy Holloway critiques his lack of touchdowns: “It's really the lack of two picks. Yeah. No, not the interceptions” [48:06].

4. Joe Mixon (Cincinnati Bengals)

   • Inefficiency: Mixon’s workload didn’t translate into effective performance, resulting in low yardage and disappointing stats: “He had 24 touches and yet 20 for 49” [50:34].

5. Others Mentioned:

   • DeMarco Murray, Jerick McKinnon, Rex Burkhead: These running backs also saw underwhelming performances, with particular emphasis on inconsistent usage and lackluster outputs.

Studs:

1. Tom Brady (New England Patriots)

   • Consistent Excellence: Jason Moore praises Brady’s performance, noting his impressive stats despite age: “At 39 years old, he's on pace for 5,000 yards, 35 touchdowns and three interceptions” [26:12].
   • Fantasy Reliability: Brady remains a top-tier fantasy quarterback due to his consistent production and ability to “hit Brandon Cooks on the long ball” [34:31].

2. Adam Thielen (Minnesota Vikings)

   • Outstanding Performance: Andy Holloway lauds Thielen’s dominance, stating, “If Adam Thielen is in the question, it's Adam Thielen. The guy is. He is dominant” [35:22].
   • Fantasy Value: Thielen continues to be a reliable WR1 option, showcasing strong target numbers and yardage.

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Rising Stars

1. Samaj P. Ryan (Washington Redskins)

   • Breakout Performance: Andy Holloway highlights Ryan’s impressive stats: “23 for 117 and he looked really good” [40:27].
   • Future Potential: Jason Moore emphasizes the importance of Washington’s healthy offensive line in Ryan’s potential rise: “Samaj P. Ryan and now we're finally seeing it come to fruition” [41:51].

2. Devonte Adams (Green Bay Packers)

   • Consistent Targeting: Despite sitting him in some leagues, Adams remains a primary target when healthy: “He was 8 for 126. He had a touchdown the week before” [42:53].
   • Reliability: Jason Moore regards Adams as a safe and dependable WR option, especially in high-target scenarios.

3. Kenny Stills (Cincinnati Bengals)

   • Emerging Potential: Kenny Stills shines as Mike Wright discusses his connection with Matt Moore, making him a valuable rising star: “Kenny Stills and Matt Moore, they have a connection and that's good enough for fantasy football glory” [43:38].
   • Fantasy Upside: Stills benefits from favorable matchups and increased quarterback play, enhancing his fantasy appeal.

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Player Injuries and Their Impact

Injuries play a significant role in fantasy football dynamics this week:

• Chris Thompson (Houston Texans): Suffered a fractured fibula, ending his season and impacting the Texans’ backfield.
• Calvin Benjamin (Washington Redskins): Exited with a knee injury, though details remain sparse [14:10].
• Deonta Foreman (Baltimore Ravens): Torn Achilles after a breakout game, sidelining him for the season [14:27].
• Robert Woods (Los Angeles Rams): Spotted with a sling post-game, necessitating monitoring for the upcoming week [16:15].
• Marshawn Lattimore (New Orleans Saints): Injured ankle after a brief reentry [16:19].

These injuries necessitate timely bench decisions and potential waiver wire pickups to maintain competitive fantasy rosters.

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Matchup Analysis and Strategy

Quarterback Decisions:

• Tyrod Taylor vs. Nathan Peterman (Buffalo Bills):
  • Diverging Opinions: Mike Wright leans towards Peterman as the starter [02:59], while Jason Moore supports Tyrod Taylor, trusting Sean McDermott’s coaching [03:04].
  • Strategic Implications: Fantasy owners must weigh Taylor’s stability against Peterman’s potential upside, considering the Bills’ defensive vulnerabilities.

Running Back Utilization:

• Doug Martin (Miami Dolphins):

  • High Volume vs. Low Efficiency: Despite numerous carries, Martin’s 2.7 yards per carry makes him a risky start [07:22].
  • Decision Making: The hosts debate whether to bench Martin or keep him as a potential trap for opponents picking him up.

• Alvin Kamara & Mark Ingram (New Orleans Saints):

  • Top Performers: Both running backs secured the top spots in running back rankings, a rare occurrence highlighting their consistent performance despite limited carries [27:12].
  • Coaching Strategy: Sean Payton’s game plan maximizes their strengths, making them reliable fantasy options.

Weather Considerations:

• Alex Smith’s Game Conditions:
  • Impact of Wind: Harsh weather conditions led to inaccurate throws for Alex Smith, affecting his fantasy output [48:27].

Notable Quotes

• Mike Wright on Nathan Peterman: “You guys all saw me with much delight celebrating his each and every interception” [13:05].
• Jason Moore on Dak Prescott: “I felt like a disappointed father” [46:35].
• Andy Holloway on Adam Thielen: “If Adam Thielen is in the question, it's Adam Thielen. The guy is. He is dominant” [35:22].
• Jason Moore on Tom Brady: “At 39 years old, he's on pace for 5,000 yards, 35 touchdowns and three interceptions” [26:12].

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Rising Stars of the Week

1. Samaj P. Ryan (Washington Redskins): Blossoming into a primary backfield option with significant carry volume and improved performance [40:27].
2. Devonte Adams (Green Bay Packers): Becoming a consistent target and reliable receiver, making him a safe play in various leagues [42:53].
3. Kenny Stills (Cincinnati Bengals): Enhancing his fantasy value through a strong connection with quarterback Matt Moore and favorable matchups [43:38].

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Strategic Recommendations

• Benching Underperformers: Players like Doug Martin and Nathan Peterman exhibit concerning efficiencies and may warrant benching or cautious use.
• Capitalizing on Rising Stars: Investing in Samaj P. Ryan, Devonte Adams, and Kenny Stills can provide significant upside, especially during fantasy playoffs.
• Monitoring Injuries: Staying updated on player injuries is crucial for timely adjustments to fantasy rosters, ensuring minimal disruption.

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Conclusion and Future Teasers

The Fantasy Footballers wrap up Week 11 by emphasizing the importance of strategic roster management, highlighting both the pitfalls of overvalued duds and the opportunities presented by emerging stars. They tease upcoming content, including the anticipated “Megalodon” episode and ongoing engagement opportunities through their community platforms.

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from the Play Draft Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Mike Wright]

Ah. What? I. I caught a football.

[Jason Moore]

You did?

[Mike Wright]

Nathan Peterman just threw me a football. Oh, that's number six.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

Wow. Thanks, Nate.

[Andy Holloway]

I've always thought of you as a highbrow man.

[Mike Wright]

You know, I did bounce back and forth between absolute sadness for the human being and entertainment by what was taking place.

[Andy Holloway]

And you decided, no, I will kick him in the groin.

[Mike Wright]

Look, I.

[Andy Holloway]

More of a stomp because he's already. He's already on the ground in the fetal position.

[Mike Wright]

That situation has a lot of layers. Okay, there's Nathan Peterman the man, and I feel bad for Nathan Peterman the man, but you're responsible for what you do on the field, too. Some of those throws were just asinine and he had been on the field earlier this year and looked okay for, you know, in relief. Sure, sure. But the asinine layers in play there, they're a 5 and 4 team with a quarterback that had only turned the ball over three times on the year. And Tyrod Taylor, See, it's on the.

[Andy Holloway]

I guess this is how we're starting the show, but sure, this is on the coaching staff.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Mid tournament, a plus 500 team. And go, ah, we're going to go with a fifth round rookie. Look, this is completely a magician act, right? This is. The magician is waving his hand over here. He's getting your attention over here. Meanwhile, his defense is freaking awful. The Bills defense, like McDermott, his legacy is built upon defense and he's just trying to distract everyone from the fact that his defense stinks and there is nothing he can do to fix it. So he has to go. Well, if you look over here at the quarterback situation, just pay attention to that.

[Mike Wright]

A big mirage on the year. They were opportunistic as a defense to start the season. It has vastly changed, which changes our opinions of fantasy players going up against the Buffalo defense. I agree with you, it was a disaster of a game.

[Jason Moore]

But vindication for Tyrod Taylor, not necessarily vindication. The decision has not yet been. That's What I was going to ask whether or not.

[Mike Wright]

Let's weigh in. I believe Nathan Peterman will get the start. That is my belief. What do you believe?

[Jason Moore]

I believe despite this previous decision, that Sean McDermott is a good coach. So I believe Tyrod Taylor will be the starting quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't. I don't even know what to think.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know what to believe.

[Andy Holloway]

I honestly, I don't know what to think. This is a team that. So they're five and five now, is. That's correct. They could still make the playoffs. What are you doing messing around with a fifth round rookie who maybe Peterman has a long career ahead of him, but he's got to be shell shocked. You can't come out your first start, you're ready to go, you're amped about this. Your dream is coming true. You're an NFL quarterback and you come out and you do something in the horrendous category that hasn't been done since 1991. With the amount of interceptions he threw in the first half.

[Jason Moore]

Hope mom and dad didn't.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I was thinking.

[Andy Holloway]

Also hard hitting analysis, Jason Moore style media had six completions for 66 yards. Oh, you can't play him again.

[Mike Wright]

Well, welcome to the fantasy footballers.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm glad you come back.

[Mike Wright]

Two weeks ago podcast, Brooks is here, the judge himself. Brooks, who gets start? Who gets a start? Peterman or Tyrod this week? Tyrod. Okay. That's the appropriate answer. I wish we had control of that franchise.

[Andy Holloway]

I wish that that football had kind of hit you in the face. Yeah, because we would not have started the show over now.

[Mike Wright]

I know. But of course I caught it because. Sticky hands.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. Great hands. Great hands all the way. That's what.

[Mike Wright]

Great hands all the way. Hey, great hands.

[Andy Holloway]

Get over here, Catch some balls.

[Mike Wright]

Stud muffins. Who am I playing football with that's asking me that question?

[Andy Holloway]

Someone from the 40s. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Stud muffins. Rising stars on the show, duds on the show and lots of good questions. Hopefully you had a good weekend. It was a tough one for me. You know, Larry Fitzgerald, he outperformed my expectations with Blaine Gabbard.

[Andy Holloway]

He got that new contract bump.

[Mike Wright]

Eli Manning lost Sterling Shepard, just like last minute this week, which really, really hurt his ability to do anything offensively. You had a disappointing week from Alex Smith. We're going to get into all of those on the show today. And a reminder, the Megalodon episode, it's coming. It's Wednesday. Are you ready for this?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man. I gotta get my sleep in tonight and tomorrow.

[Mike Wright]

Get your sleeps in?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I'm two sleeps away from the Megalodon.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And if you don't know what that is, it is a gargantuan episode that we drop on Wednesday. We are not here on Thanksgiving and the day after. And therefore we give. You give it a meal, a Thanksgiving meal worth of show on Wednesday.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a giant show. We usually end up doused in sweat.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And gravy.

[Mike Wright]

And gravy.

[Jason Moore]

Grave for Thanksgiving.

[Mike Wright]

He sweats gravy.

[Jason Moore]

I do.

[Mike Wright]

He sweats it.

[Jason Moore]

If it's the morning, it's a condition, it's breakfast gravy. If it's late in the evening, it's just a brown, rich gravy. This is just true.

[Mike Wright]

It's just a medical condition.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I wouldn't make fun of it if I were you.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

Andy, quick question of the day. Which week 11 dud are you most concerned about going forward? So the next couple weeks in the fantasy playoffs, they're here. Which dud from this past week has you most concerned?

[Jason Moore]

I'll start it off here.

[Andy Holloway]

And the answer is Doug Martin.

[Mike Wright]

Look, not which Doug makes you. Oh, dud and Doug, same thing.

[Andy Holloway]

Answer to both questions is the same because it's Doug Martin. Volume is king in fantasy football. All you want is your players to get an opportunity. Doug Martin getting loads, loads of opportunity. I mean, we all remember that sensational game. His first game back after the suspension, 13 for 74, he had a touchdown. Since that point, if my calculations are correct, he has run 99 times for 269 yards. That's 2.7 yards per carry. You say what you want about the yards per carry stats. You know, some people argue for it, against it, but at 2.7, there is nothing you can possibly argue.

[Jason Moore]

And at a hundred carries, that is talking.

[Andy Holloway]

That is horrendous, that is.

[Mike Wright]

Why does he feel the need to be such a man of extremes? Why does he have to lead the league in rushing or be a disaster?

[Jason Moore]

Well, you know, the point is, you know which version of Doug Martin it is now. So I don't. I don't see that changing. I agree with you, Mike. In fact, when we sat down, my pick, Brooks Judge Giamatti himself was like. He thought it was a little too low hanging. And so when I thought about, okay, let me think of someone else, I immediately went to Doug Martin.

[Andy Holloway]

So for Doug Martin, the question is, do you drop Doug Martin? Do you try and set up a landmine situation for your Opponents to go, oh, Doug Martin, I'm going to pick him up. I play him. Or do you just bench him and hope that there's something of relevance here? If you ever have to start him.

[Mike Wright]

If you have one of the next two guys we're going to mention, you might not have the option to drop him.

[Jason Moore]

I would probably not drop Doug Martin.

[Andy Holloway]

You would just bench him.

[Jason Moore]

I would bench him until something changes. He's still getting 20 carries a game.

[Andy Holloway]

But how long can the Buccaneers continue to give him 20 carries? If this. These are the results that he is giving the team.

[Mike Wright]

However, there's a lot of players like this right now in this category.

[Andy Holloway]

Not getting 20 carries, getting 2.7.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's bad.

[Jason Moore]

You definitely have to bench it for sure.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there you go. So, all right, Jason, you went with.

[Jason Moore]

With my low hanging fruit, but I've got a. I've got a backup as well. The one that's the most concerning to me, and we kind of said this before the week, was Buck Allen. Buck Allen is a guy that.

[Andy Holloway]

That's Javorius Allen.

[Jason Moore]

Javorius, Buck Allen. Thanks, Judge.

[Andy Holloway]

He's all about legal names.

[Mike Wright]

He has a strange correction there.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You know who he is?

[Jason Moore]

Yes. So Javorius, Buck Allen, running back for the. Or I should say former running back for the Baltimore Ravens. He inherited a role that they seemingly did not want him to have. He's behind Terrence West. He was behind Danny Woodhead. And as everybody in front of him got injured, he came in and he was pretty good. And so people have had a long stretch, you know, a good, solid two months of being able to start Javorius Allen and have a pretty decent showing. But Danny Woodhead was activated before the game. That is his role. They brought him in to have it. And the only reason Buck Allen was utilized in that pass catching back role was because Danny Woodhead was gone. And now that he's back, unless Danny Woodhead gets injured again, it's bye bye, Buck Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

Witness protection. Yeah, Buck Allen.

[Jason Moore]

We don't. Yeah, I mean, he's gone from Javorius to Buck. Nobody knows who he is. I will also throw out Kenyon Drake just as another name. That's scary.

[Andy Holloway]

Really.

[Jason Moore]

He's been great, but he only got seven because Damien only give seven carries to a guy who has been somewhat electric the last two weeks being able to break off long runs.

[Andy Holloway]

Game script.

[Mike Wright]

Are you talking about C.J. spiller?

[Andy Holloway]

Nice. Game script says you got to go to the pass catching back. And for Miami, that's Damian Williams. But Damian Williams was, he was ripping off huge runs, so I don't know that I would panic yet on just a little Drake. Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'd be worried about seven carries. You gotta. You can't rely on a 57 yard run every game.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

I'm gonna go with Adrian Peterson. He concerns me quite a bit. I mean, you just don't know what you're getting. And generally you're not getting a middle of the road situation. You're getting 20 carries for 30 something yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Or are we talking about Doug Martin?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, exactly. Or Joe Mixon. Look, it's one of those situations where, yes, you're happy about the workload, but you have a quarterback situation that's up in the air, an offense that's struggled, and an offensive line that hasn't been able to open holes for him. In three of his five games, he's had two monster games and three really bad games.

[Andy Holloway]

He should. This was lined up. The defensive matchup against the running back position was set up for him to have a big week and he failed.

[Mike Wright]

Well, the Texans are pretty great against.

[Andy Holloway]

Running backs, but not fantasy wise.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Am I remembering that?

[Mike Wright]

I think you're remembering.

[Andy Holloway]

Remembering it wrong.

[Jason Moore]

I might be remembering it exactly opposite.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they're actually one of the best in the league, but we saw the week before that teams had had success and with that many carries, you expect it. All I'm saying is the quantity of carries.

[Andy Holloway]

I was remembering it backwards.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it was set up for failure and he failed. He did not beat those. You know, next week it's Jacksonville. I'm not excited. Then it's the Rams not excited. You know, you've got Tennessee at home. Okay. Maybe Washington on the road, the Giants at home. Okay, Maybe you're playing. He's not a locked in starter is my point. He's not a guaranteed performer. And so when I'm looking at my fantasy playoffs right now, I'm hoping I don't have to lean on him, but I will if I have Doug Martin or Buck Allen. So. So those are the answers for that today. Buck Allen, Adrian Peterson, Doug Martin. Some concerns we'll get into more of the weekly rewind, the studs, the duds on the show, TwitterFFballers. You can follow us over there. Follow everything with the show. You can check out jointhefoot.com posted a little note there on the weekend thanking the foot clan for supporting everything we're doing with this independent podcast and the websites, the fantasy footballers. Without further ado, let's get into the Rewind.

[Jason Moore]

Weekly. Rewind.

[Mike Wright]

You thought that was a little mean? It was a little mean what I did to Nathan Peterman.

[Jason Moore]

Mike thought it was a little mean. He's a man with a big heart. I thought it was very funny.

[Mike Wright]

Chris Thompson.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, you guys all saw me with much delight celebrating his each and every interception.

[Mike Wright]

But that's because you had a fabulous Tyrod Taylor tweet. You sent out that. You kept retweeting your own tweet.

[Andy Holloway]

Sometimes you got to retweet the tweet, man, it was so. I was so torn because, you know, I don't want Peterman to fail. You just, you need the coaching staff to know that that was a stupid decision. Taking your winning team and blaming the quarterback for your defensive.

[Jason Moore]

Who's been very good.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. It was all about the validation for Tyrod Taylor because we've all believed in him as a competent to good NFL quarterback. And that is not what Peterman was. All right, Chris Thompson, fractured fibula. He's going to need surgery and his season is over. That means that's a displaced fibula. That's not even one of those quick four to six week things. He's going to need surgery and that's a real big disappointment. Rob Kelly, already on ir. Chris Thompson, who's been so electric now is out and this has been a problem for him.

[Jason Moore]

Health time for the pain bot Samajp Ryan.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

You might not want to use that nickname right now with Washington. That's fair considering the level of pain that every other running backs experiencing.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to use it later though.

[Mike Wright]

Calvin Benjamin exited week 11. Some sort of knee injury. They did cart him off the field.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it was very strange. And do we. We really don't have an update on that? No, I haven't seen anything.

[Jason Moore]

Not as of yet.

[Mike Wright]

Brooks is shaking his head. He doesn't have anything new.

[Jason Moore]

We do have an update.

[Mike Wright]

Give him a call.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, why don't you call Kelvin? Just hit him up on the phone. But Deonta Foreman had his breakout game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And unfortunately on his long touchdown run, after he got in the end zone or as he got into the end zone, he tore his Achilles, believed to have.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know if that's confirmed.

[Jason Moore]

I believe that is confirmed, but not alleged. But he is done for the season.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And now you have the Dolphins, Jake Cutler. Hey, for those, for those out there in the Twitter sphere and the podcast listeners, if you joined me in the event that was streaming Jay Cutler yesterday, which I did, I streamed him in the money league. The matchup was great. There was a bunch of options like Eli Manning, who looked like a fine streamer coming into the weekend. But then you had the weather situation escalate, and then you had Sterling Shepard go out like, well, let's go with Jay Cutler. Yeah. So he. He was nice enough to throw three interceptions before leaving the game within concussion protocol.

[Jason Moore]

Thank goodness he had a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So he kind of.

[Jason Moore]

That just washed it.

[Andy Holloway]

Washed it out to give you a really nothing game. Then Matt Moore came in and lit it up.

[Jason Moore]

And by lit it up, you mean through to his best friend. Yes. As he always does.

[Mike Wright]

We'll talk about Kenny Stills. And he asked more a little bit later.

[Andy Holloway]

Matt Moore actually screams I love you every time he hurls the ball at Kenny Stills.

[Jason Moore]

And whenever he throws to anyone else, he just says, you're not kidding.

[Mike Wright]

Not my first choice.

[Andy Holloway]

You're not kidding.

[Jason Moore]

Third read.

[Mike Wright]

Robert woods was spotted with a sling on his left arm following the game.

[Andy Holloway]

Not good.

[Mike Wright]

Not good. He was. He had a pretty good game, too, but he got hurt towards the end of it, and we need to monitor his situation for this upcoming week. And then the Saints, they've had. They got beat up on defense this week. Alex Okafur, four and a half sacks for them. Been a bit of a pass rush monster. He's out for the year. Torn Achilles. And then Marshawn Lattimore, he reentered the overtime win, but he exited after one snap. Re. Injured the ankle. We needed.

[Andy Holloway]

They need him.

[Mike Wright]

They do. They need. Yeah. Oh, my goodness.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, they're marching.

[Mike Wright]

What an almost upset. I thought it was over. I thought that Washington had it in the bag.

[Jason Moore]

We're still going.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he's gonna talk about it. I'm giving him background music.

[Mike Wright]

What a game. What a game. And Kirk Cousins was balling out. All right. A number of players didn't play. Sterling Shepard had the migraines. That was a late scratch. Otherwise, any other late scratches? I mean, Darren McFadden didn't play.

[Andy Holloway]

The Darren McFadden one is. It's so strange.

[Mike Wright]

It is what it is.

[Andy Holloway]

Old. No, I get it. But I'm saying, why do you resign him in the off season? Give him a million dollars.

[Mike Wright]

You resign him because.

[Andy Holloway]

Play.

[Mike Wright]

You want the depth.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. It's just a depth.

[Mike Wright]

That's it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

The only other.

[Mike Wright]

And Alfred Morris looked good.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. Just saying.

[Mike Wright]

Why would.

[Andy Holloway]

Why would you give a running back a million dollars when. If for depth, you don't want him to play, then if you get in a depth situation just go grab someone.

[Mike Wright]

A veteran like that's going to cost.

[Jason Moore]

I also think. Yeah and I also. I don't believe when they signed him that they knew it was just depth. I think they thought he could come in and in camp he didn't win that job. Alf Morris and Rod Smith kind of stepped up so they ended up with a million dollar depth piece. The only other inactives that I think are worth speaking about, Mike Gillislee. That's back to back weeks. Healthy scratch.

[Andy Holloway]

We've moved on, sure.

[Jason Moore]

But I'm.

[Andy Holloway]

We've mourned who we've accepted and Terrence.

[Jason Moore]

West is worth noting because he was completely healthy. Full practice participant all week long. So with with Danny Woodhead active, they.

[Mike Wright]

Do like Buck Allen.

[Jason Moore]

There was a question of whether or not Terrence west would would, you know, impact this running that quarter and they're Nope.

[Mike Wright]

Mike McCoy has been fired as the offensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos. The magic he once had with Peyton Manning he could not replicate with Brock Osweiler.

[Jason Moore]

You know, Adam Gay, weird Adam Gase, he was really good offensive mind with Peyton Manning. Hmm.

[Mike Wright]

That's the humorous part of any of these equations. I mean, Ken Wizen Hunt, I was.

[Andy Holloway]

Gonna say I call Warner Wizen Hunting is when you have a Hall of Fame quarterback and he earns you a lot of money. He makes you look really good. He also makes you start. He builds up this confidence that you're a better coach than you are.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, maybe you don't, you don't focus.

[Andy Holloway]

And then you're like, hey, I can start Derek Anderson as my starting quarterback and win because I'm such a good coach.

[Jason Moore]

Give me Jake Cutler.

[Andy Holloway]

I got to the Super Bowl.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. All right. Well, implications of that change though, are we expecting. I mean improvement would be nice from the Denver offense in any way, shape or form. Manual Sanders, Demarius Thomas, C.J. anderson, Devonte Booker. Those are players that would be impacted by the change. We just need to wait and see. We don't know if it'll be Paxton lynch or brock Osweiler. Osweilers 0 and 3 right as the quarterback. So we're going to get into the stud muffins. Before we do that, I want to thank Pristine auction. Here are some of the auctions that completed yesterday and how much these fine pieces of sports memorabilia went for. An Amari Cooper signed Raiders Pro style jersey 73 bucks. A Jerry Rice signed 49ers career highlight stat jersey 95 bucks. Evan Ingram. You want to get in on that Evan ingram train early. 57 bucks for a signed jersey of Evan Ingram. That a Christian McCaffrey jersey. Oh, 91 bucks that have been a nice one to snag.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Lev bell signed photo. 60 bucks. So there are hundreds. I'm just reading you a couple. There are hundreds of daily auctions at.

[Andy Holloway]

Pristine Auction, including one today that is a Bo Jackson signed photo. It's a Tech mobile touchdown Bo Jackson.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I like. It is glorious and it's Christmas. So if you want to give somebody something cool for Christmas that's unique, that's the neat thing about it.

[Andy Holloway]

Just back away from my Bo Jackson.

[Mike Wright]

Just don't touch Mike's Bo Jackson. Pristineauction.com Let them know the fantasy footballer sent you when you sign up. It's free to sign up and to bid. Pristineauction.com P R I S T I.

[Jason Moore]

N E auction.com yeah, the holidays are certainly here. Another great gift to get for men because, you know, sometimes guys are the hardest to shop for. Harry's razors, which we have used for years. Andy and I go back what, three years now with Harry's razors and they are extremely good blades. My wife will steal all of my razors because she's like, these are better than the girl razors. That's the wife. That's exactly what she sounds like. But for the holidays there is a perfect gift. Harry's. You know, it's a good company. The guys over there, we really like the blades that they've made, the business they've put together. And this holiday, Harry's is offering a custom and limited edition shaving set. Makes for a perfect gift. Their sets come with German engineered five blade cartridges in a really nice case and they've got this chrome handle. It's just, it's all customizable. You go pick out exactly what you want and there is a really good offer. And if you do it now, you can get four. So this holiday give Harry's and give handsome. Get your holiday shopping done early. Take advantage of free shipping to get a limited edition holiday shave set while supplies last, go to Harry's.comfootballers right now that's Harry's.comfootballers.

[Mike Wright]

Would you say they make you look like a stud muffin?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I love it. This week's fantasy stud muffins.

[Andy Holloway]

Before we get into the stud muffins, there was an article going around, you know, one of these viral Facebook articles. I just, I really needed to mention it for the listeners of the show, specifically Brooks. It talked about how when people put their Christmas trees up Early. It actually brings joy. It makes people happier. It improves mood.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, Brooks, would you say that having your Christmas tree up, which I understand that your girlfriend put your Christmas tree up. Is that right? Oh, is that right? Yes. Did that help with your mood after watching what happened to Dak Prescott in your hometown Cowboys?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Mike Wright]

No, it didn't. It didn't. No tinsel could wash away that pain.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. Sorry, Mike. Your study has been. No Facebook study has been debunked.

[Andy Holloway]

The study is. Is still accurate. I can't. I can't speak for the Doo Doo Cowboys.

[Mike Wright]

The Doo Doo Cowboy.

[Andy Holloway]

That's right.

[Mike Wright]

By the way, one last piece of news. Greg Olson's practicing today. Oh, he's a must add.

[Andy Holloway]

Pick him up.

[Mike Wright]

Pick him up. All right. Stud muffins this week. Big Ben. Hello.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey.

[Mike Wright]

Thought about making him my raising canes rising star today just because the offense was moving along. Looking good. Juju's legit. Antonio Brown.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, hey, Antonio Brown.

[Mike Wright]

How you doing? You're good. Kirk Cousins, Tom Brady, Blaine Gabbard. The blonde bombshell, 22 for 34. Three touchdowns for Gabbard. Drew Brees. Nice day. 385 yards in the comeback affair, and then Andy Dalton, he got it done. Not a lot of yardage, but three touchdowns. Has Cleveland on the docket next week, so that's an interesting start. He'll be a streaming option. I may lay claim to him right now, but do you think that Blaine.

[Andy Holloway]

Gabbard will start in the revenge game next week against Jacksonville?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that'd be nice. Yeah, I do. I think so.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you mean, you hope not?

[Jason Moore]

Well, here's the deal. I think Blaine Gabbard is better than Drew Stanton. Oh, you'd rather Stanton as a Cardinals fan? I would rather have Blaine Gabbard as more of the future than Drew Stanton. And so therefore, whoever the Cardinals quarterback is next week is going to fail against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

[Mike Wright]

If you want to peer into the souls of three Cardinal fans, you just heard them talk about Blaine Gabbard in part of the future. That's where we're at.

[Jason Moore]

It's a dark, dark place.

[Mike Wright]

Carson Wentz got it done, man. Some of the plays he makes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they're pretty incredible.

[Mike Wright]

They're pretty amazing. You know, throwing the ball with guys dropped, draped around his. His legs. Some of the jukes on these defensive ends to get himself the opportunity stepping up in the pocket.

[Andy Holloway]

And we have a.

[Mike Wright]

And he didn't have the greatest accuracy night, but he still got it done.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

This is including a first half, which Was he really did nothing? I think he had what, 80 passing yards?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he had 70 yards in the first drive, and then his next 11 passes, he only completed one.

[Andy Holloway]

It was rough. But a memo to the Eagle staff and Coach Peterson, if you want to keep going for two, I know this was a matter of circumstance that your kicker was hurt, but if you want to just Keep going for two, the fantasy community supports this.

[Mike Wright]

They were 100% on conversions.

[Andy Holloway]

They failed on one because it was Ertz. He fumbled it.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

So. Oh, that's right. But that play should have been touched.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Should have been a two point.

[Andy Holloway]

If he would have just had stronger hand. He was doing his best. Jack Doyle, baby hands.

[Mike Wright]

So Jake Elliott was concussed in this game and they had no place kicker.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

So it worked out for fantasy owners in that regard.

[Andy Holloway]

Shout out to the linebacker who still was place kicking, and he forced a touchback. I mean, that was incredible.

[Jason Moore]

Speaking of, I feel like we need to give a little bit more respect. I know it's Tom Brady and you, and we all just assume, well, Tom Brady's going to be great, but do you realize what he's doing? At 39 years old, he's on pace for 5,000 yards, 35 touchdowns and three interceptions.

[Andy Holloway]

It's because all he eats is beans and caterpillars.

[Jason Moore]

Is that. Is that why.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So all I have to do is.

[Mike Wright]

The TB12 beans and beans and caterpillars.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, his, his deep ball looks as good, or maybe, you know, better.

[Mike Wright]

Than it ever has.

[Jason Moore]

He's hitting Brandon Cooks on the long ball.

[Andy Holloway]

To be fair, the Raiders make people look like that.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I mean, sure, but the, you know, the 5035 and 3 numbers, that, that's, that's the whole season, right?

[Mike Wright]

30 for 37. He just carves people up right now. And he's one of those players where when you project a big game from him, he. He delivers nine times out of ten.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Whereas sometimes you see these games where you're like, okay, Alex Smith going against the Giants. This should be a home run. Even Alex Smith couldn't deliver this week. Talk about him in a little bit. Running backs. Oh, number one and number two, Mark Ingram and Alvin Camara.

[Andy Holloway]

Hello. My goodness. Man.

[Mike Wright]

You realize they only had a combined. Combined 19 carries between them and they ended up the number one, number two running back.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know how you give mark Ingram only 11 carries.

[Mike Wright]

You.

[Jason Moore]

Well, that's what Andy said.

[Mike Wright]

When you're down 18 points, the game plan changes. And Alvin Camara's on the field for three straight drives. That's what happened. And so don't worry, guys.

[Jason Moore]

I'll take the 11 carries and turn it into 130 yards.

[Mike Wright]

That coach cannot go. Oh, we're down 18, but I'm going to just. Ingram's carry counts a little low right now. I got to get him out there. I mean, it's just coaching. And Ingram and Camara are unbelievable this week in what you saw from Camara and what you saw from a usage standpoint from Kareem Hunt, which, by the way, they've lost four out of five games now in Kansas City.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe you should give Kareem Hunt the ball more often. But this was what we said. Sean Payton is why Alvin Camara is great. And Alvin Camara, even when he fumbles the ball somehow, that means he splits Ford Washington defenders for a touch, bobbles the pass.

[Jason Moore]

I shared this crazy stat that both Mark Ingram and Alvin Camara were top five running backs. That was a couple weeks after Adrian Peterson left. Now a new check in, a new update. Okay. It's been a while. It was week five since week five when Adrian Peterson left that team in a half point scoring. Mark Ingram and Alvin Camara are the number one and number two running backs for that entire stretch of time.

[Andy Holloway]

That has to have never happened before. I don't have. It's impossible.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you stay in those flames.

[Mike Wright]

Lashawn McCoy, welcome back. 13 for 114 and one. Just look great. One for 12 and a touchdown and his only target. So that's a little strange when his target numbers have been where they're at. But this was the Nathan Peterman.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

So if you're a LaShawn McCoy fan, you want Tyrod in there. This off can move the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Latavius Murray, 15 for 95. This was my start of the week.

[Jason Moore]

Hmm.

[Mike Wright]

Just kidding. It was Jason. It was Jason start of the week. I just wanted to see his reaction. 15 for 95. 2 to Styles. This offense is just plain working. I mean, Adam Thielen is having the second best year, the second best start to a season of a Vikings wide receiver since Randy Moss. That's how good he is performing.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's. Adam Thielen has been unbelievable.

[Jason Moore]

And as far as. Yeah, I mean, I love the Vikings office, but as far as Latavius Murray, he was almost my rising star as well. I didn't do that because he was my start of the week. But he's got Detroit and Atlanta, you know, as his next two games. And I Mean, he has double digit carries since Dalvin Cook went down. He is their primary ball carrier.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And he is getting the goal line work right now. It wasn't like McKinnon wasn't out there. McKinnon was out there a ton and in half point per reception leagues he was still right around the 10 point mark. However, Latavius is the touchdown guy right now and he's looking good on the field. This thunder and lightning combo that they have is working Samaj P. Ryan 23 carries and is probably not going to change Mike and we're going to talk about him shortly. Deion Lewis 10 for 64 for 28 and a touchdown through the air. Absolutely looks like the best running back by. By a lot.

[Jason Moore]

Looks like that 2015 Dion Lewis. That was the number seven running back, Jordan Howard.

[Mike Wright]

There's 15 for 125 and a touchdown. That was your start of the week, Jay.

[Jason Moore]

No, that was your start of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Was that a humble brag over there?

[Mike Wright]

I just was trading back and forth because I have to grab onto a couple of the good predictions this week because quite a few things went south. I mean, yeah, we talked about it. Lev Bell. Okay. You could have gotten in the end zone. You didn't get the ball a lot. But this is the nice thing about Lev bell.

[Andy Holloway]

It's the nine reception.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Nine receptions over 100 combined yards in.

[Mike Wright]

A quote unquote bad game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Lamar Miller, 22 carries. He had a touchdown through the air and he's going to be all alone in that back.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. With Deontay Foreman likely out for the season. Lamar Miller is just that. The volume will continue to be there. Unfortunately, he gets Baltimore next week. Not very excited about that. But then Titans in San Francisco. So. I mean, you got a couple good matchups coming up.

[Mike Wright]

Talk to me about Orleans. Darkwa.

[Andy Holloway]

I would love to, man.

[Jason Moore]

Dark with Duck did it again. Nah, it's good. It's a good one. Look, Darkwa has been good and we, we railed against the New York Giants rushing offense, their ability, their offensive line in the off season and it seemed to be true at the beginning of the year, but it's just not the case.

[Andy Holloway]

Little did we know it was. It was just Paul Perkins.

[Jason Moore]

It's just. Yeah, it was just Paul Perkins.

[Mike Wright]

Paul Perkins.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I'll never forgive you. Paul Perkins.

[Mike Wright]

Rest in peace for taking Smash Jackson away from us.

[Jason Moore]

Smush. Smush. Jackson was smushed. Smushed Jackson is the new name for Paul Perkins. Orleans Darqua has been over 70 rushing yards each of the last three games, he had a touchdown in this one. I think he is a guy that you can put out there as a RB2, RB3, week in, week out. And if he's got a great matchup, he should, he should be, you know, a must start.

[Mike Wright]

You like to see the workload, the confidence that they seem to have in him. And 20 carries. Yeah, there's, you know, Gallman's getting worked in, but it's dark was backfield right now. Then Alex Collins had 20 carries, ended up with a touchdown late in the game. But 20 carries, it seems like it's Alex Collins and Danny Woodhead.

[Jason Moore]

I would love that.

[Mike Wright]

Antonio Brown, we talked about him. Let's talk about some stud muffins at the wide receiver position.

[Jason Moore]

Holy crap.

[Andy Holloway]

Keenan Allen.

[Jason Moore]

There he is.

[Mike Wright]

Hello.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, look, Folklon, if you're, if you follow this show, you know that my, my deep burning love for Keenan Allen. I think he is a sensational wide receiver. But I had just last week, I have, I was finally allowing and coming to terms with. Okay, well, maybe we're not going to see that target monster that we've come to know and love from Keenan Allen. We're this far into the season and then 12 for 159 and two 12 reception.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I was going to say 12 receptions on 13 targets. He caught everything coming his way.

[Mike Wright]

You can argue that he only had a half to do it, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Philip Rivers, Melvin Gordon, Keenan Allen, they were all out early.

[Andy Holloway]

Chargers, please.

[Jason Moore]

Thanks. Nathan Peterman. Look.

[Andy Holloway]

Look at what happened when you fed the beast. Keenan Allen came through for you in a huge way. Let's keep this going.

[Mike Wright]

Dallas, Cleveland, Cleveland, Washington, Kansas City, New.

[Andy Holloway]

York, maybe, but Dallas and Cleveland for sure. This will be a big test next week to see if we can get them sustained at that 10 target mark.

[Mike Wright]

Well, if you're one of the teams that have a buy though, and you get Kansas City, New York for your final two games, the Jets, I'd be happy with that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would too.

[Mike Wright]

Kenny stills. 7 for 180 and a tush down.

[Jason Moore]

Matt Moore comes in the game. Where's Kenny?

[Andy Holloway]

With love. He just sees, smooches the ball and then he throws it.

[Mike Wright]

They have a connection.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, they do. Seven for 180 and a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

Decent, decent. Brandon Cooks, Danny Amendola, both scored, both looked great. Brandon Cooks looked exceptional in this game. And Tom Brady, he's finding his receivers. That's just what he does. Adam Thielen, we talked about him. Six for 123 in a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

For all people who. So if you've joined the Sunday morning periscope, I still get some questions from time to time about Adam Thielen. If Adam Thielen is in the question, it's Adam Thielen. If Adam Thielen's in your question, the answer is Adam Thielen is Adam Thielen. The guy is. He is dominant.

[Jason Moore]

He's a wide receiver one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

He's going away.

[Andy Holloway]

He's not just a wide receiver one, he's a top level wide receiver one.

[Mike Wright]

He's always open and then when he. Then he always catches.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean you had there was the play where Case Keenum is being dragged to the ground and he throws up. I mean this is a Jameis Winston ball where.

[Jason Moore]

Don't do it.

[Andy Holloway]

You should not have done that. But who, who just appears wide open. Oh, hey, it's Adam Thielen in his shiny yellow gloves.

[Jason Moore]

I love those yellow gloves.

[Mike Wright]

I do too. Larry Fitzgerald, Devonte Adams, Marvin Jones and Jarvis Landry had nice weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, thanks. Marvin Jones.

[Mike Wright]

I regretfully sat Dion DeAndre Hopkins. Oh, in one of my leagues. Despite him being the number one wide receiver because of the Patrick Peterson matchup. Thought it was the right call.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it looked great for an entire half.

[Mike Wright]

One catch in the first half, but ended up 4 for 76 and a touchdown. He is matchup proof and he'll have a tough matchup next week. He has Baltimore.

[Jason Moore]

Who cares?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. I still have my concerns.

[Mike Wright]

Demarius Thomas, AJ Green, they started poorly, finished well, got it done this week. Robert woods had a nice 8 for 81, but he's banged up. And Michael Thomas 6 for 91 and of course no touchdowns. And Mike Wallace, he don't need no touchdown. He doesn't. He just. He's so reliable. He's Mr. Reliable. Anybody in that in that batch you want to talk about before we get into tight ends and then the rising stars?

[Andy Holloway]

No. If you haven't seen the Mike Wallace touchdown catch, it is. Is a monster one handed beast grab. Hopefully Robert woods with the sling. We talked about that. Hopefully he is okay because he has emerged as a fantasy force and I think if you take him out of the lineup, I think that's a really big hit for King Godfrey and you'd.

[Mike Wright]

Much rather play devonte Adams rest of the season versus Jordy Nelson.

[Andy Holloway]

Jordy Nelson was in consideration for that. Quick question of which dud are you concerned about?

[Jason Moore]

We'll actually be talking about devonte Adams here in a moment.

[Andy Holloway]

We have plenty of data. Now I Mean weeks of Jordy Nelson just doing nothing. Are you guys with me? That Jordy, you can drop him at this point. Oh, gosh.

[Mike Wright]

In a redraft. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You have to sane that the answer is absolutely.

[Mike Wright]

They are not the same team. I said it this weekend. I was glad they were wearing those weird blue and yellow throwback throwbacks because they're not the same Packer team. I mean, they might as well wear those rest of season and pretend they're a collegiate franchise. Because everything that you knew about the packers in every way, shape, and form changed when Aaron Rodgers went down.

[Andy Holloway]

Just grab a boat, put it on a lake and set it ablaze. Have a. You know, have the Viking funeral and then drop.

[Mike Wright]

Push Jordy out to sea.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

If you're doing all of that, don't you light that thing on fire before pushing it out. I want the bow and arrow.

[Andy Holloway]

Of course.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Just making sure that is what a Viking funeral is.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, well, I'm gonna first. Okay. So you're gonna need to get a bow and arrow. You're gonna need to practice probably for, like, five weeks. Do nothing.

[Jason Moore]

But don't worry, Jordy will still be.

[Mike Wright]

Super embarrassing when you don't hit it.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, you're gonna want a lot of arrows.

[Andy Holloway]

What is that like? I mean, like.

[Mike Wright]

Because eventually it drifts so far that.

[Andy Holloway]

It'S no longer go back in history. You just. You miss and everyone's staring at you.

[Jason Moore]

This is like, all right, try number two, Southwest.

[Andy Holloway]

You remember those Want to Get Away commercials?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

There you get Southwest. Genius idea. That one's on the house. I know you're listening.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, guys, let's talk about Ricky Seals Jones.

[Jason Moore]

Did we not get a SEAL drop?

[Mike Wright]

Did we not get a SEAL drop? He says even if we had her, he fails.

[Andy Holloway]

Even if we had one, you did not give the soundboard time.

[Mike Wright]

Not even close. Ricky Seals Jones. If you are hearing that name and saying. What? Who? Where? Huh? So are we tight end for the Arizona Cardinals. Backup to the. Backup to the backup. 3 for 54.

[Jason Moore]

And he's your number one tight end this week.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jason Moore]

Got the double touchdown. That's nothing like a seal, right?

[Mike Wright]

We'll just.

[Jason Moore]

I'll go that seal.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I had no idea where you were going, but you would kiss from a rose.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's easier.

[Andy Holloway]

So, Ricky Seals.

[Mike Wright]

I think Brooks just left. I think Brooks just got up and left. He's afraid of seals.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow, Brooks, you're afraid of seals.

[Mike Wright]

That's an interesting Travis Kelsey O.J. howard, Delaney, Walker, Adam Shaheen. Yeah, he's interesting because he's young, he's talented and he's now alone the only tight end. Well, and they scored some points.

[Andy Holloway]

Deion Sims has missed the past couple weeks with illness. So I'm. While I like Shaheen's future, I still believe that he will lose playing time when Sims is actually healthy again.

[Mike Wright]

All right, we got to move on.

[Jason Moore]

Raising canes rising stars of the week.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Raising canes rising stars this week. Who do you got? Mike?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to kick it off with a man all he knows is pain. The Smajp ryan, the pain bot 23 for 117 and he looked really good.

[Mike Wright]

It's the first time he's looked really good. He's running the ball between the tackles really good.

[Andy Holloway]

And this is the team that just shut down LaShawn McCoy in the New Orleans Saints. The super bowl bound Saints. But Samaji pin run and with the unfortunate injury to Chris Thompson, they will have to lean on P. Ryan. It's P. Ryan or bust for this backfield right now. And I loved the prospect of coming out of college. The Washington offensive line is finally healthy again. I think that P. Ryan is going to be a sensational pickup. If you grabbed him last year, I think a big.

[Jason Moore]

I think that Washington offensive line getting healthy matters a ton. I mean you just. Of course, even when it was Rob Kelly, you saw the difference between when they finally were intact and they weren't. This is the samaj we were talking about during the draft season. Your favorite, you know, lower tier running back during the draft season was Samaj P. Ryan and now we're finally seeing it come to fruition. So I like him a lot. My rising star is a little scary because he's on that aforementioned Viking funeral Packers.

[Andy Holloway]

But he's the archer, right?

[Jason Moore]

Well, he's good because he's going to hit that boat. He's going to light it on fire. It's Devonte Adams. Devonte Adams. At this point I had several leagues, I have several leagues where I have Devontae Adams and I have sat him pretty much week after week. Well, it's one of those things where it's really hard to bank on, you know, a quarterback that stinks. But the truth is Devonte Adams has been his number one target. Last week he led the team in targets. He led the team in receptions. He led the team in yardage. This week he led the team in targets. He led the team in receptions. He led the team in yardage. He was 8 for 126. He had a touchdown the week before, which is his second touchdown from Lindley. I think Devonte Adams is Huntley Hunley.

[Andy Holloway]

You go Ryan Lindley.

[Jason Moore]

You know I did. Devonte Adams is a. Is a safe wide receiver right now because he is pretty much, you know, you've got a one read quarterback and he's the read.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

And I know you get Pittsburgh next week, which isn't the best, right? But this was Baltimore this last week, which is arguably a better passing defense.

[Mike Wright]

We talked about it earlier, guys. The bromance life is a journey best traveled with friends. And Kenny Stills and Matt Moore, if they're matched up with one another again this week, they're star crust. They are partners in crime. I'm telling you, hand in hand. Kenny Stills is my rising star. All on the basis of Matt Moore getting the start next week. If Jay Cutler sits it out. Kenny Stills and Matt Moore, they have a connection and that's good enough for fantasy football glory. And even in the game where Matt Moore started and was pretty bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Really bad.

[Mike Wright]

Really, really terrible.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

It didn't matter. Kenny still still had a nice baseline in that game. And if he, if they hit on one of the, what, four deep shots, they'll try, then all of a sudden Kenny Stills has a monster day. So at this point, Kenny Stills is a locked and loaded starter. If Matt Moore is behind center, I.

[Andy Holloway]

Imagine Kenny still is just behind the computer. Once, once Jay Cutler was healthy and played, he was jump. He jumped on that Craigslist that like that missed connections section. He's like, there was a quarterback who, who would bomb it out to me. Where did you go?

[Mike Wright]

They are. They have matching tattoos. That's what I understand. So Samaje P. Ryan, Kenny Stills, Devonte Adams, those are the Raising Canes rising stars of the week. Remember that? Game day tastes better.

[Andy Holloway]

Mm.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, a whole lot better. With Raising Cane's tailgates full of fresh 24 hour marinated hand battered chicken fingers, fresh brewed sweet tea. Visit raising canes.com and you'll find your nearest location. All right, let's move on.

[Jason Moore]

Hooped in his big boy pants, there are some worthwhile. We've buried the lead on this show because while Nathan Peterman has been, you know, he opened the show and will help shut us down. Dak Prescott to me is the far and away biggest poop of the year. Poopiest. Yeah, he's the poop of the year.

[Mike Wright]

You need to talk about this, Jason, because you were you were watching play by play, you were reacting play by play with this Dak Prescott game.

[Jason Moore]

He was, I mean, he's one of my three my guys this year, which I've been proud of until the last two weeks. And with Tyron Smith out, with Ezekiel Elliott gone, this is a game where I think everybody knew, not just us, not just other analysts, you at home, every. Everyone knew that Dak Prescott in a tough matchup in division against the Eagles was going to need to step up. He was going to need to show that he is an MVP caliber talent, that he is, you know, a star quarterback already and, you know, the future still in the making and, and he disappointed in every possible way. I don't think he dealt with the protection well. I don't think he made the adjustments needed. He certainly didn't make the throws that were needed.

[Andy Holloway]

His throws were, I mean, so many screens, just wide receiver screens where he's dumping it into the ground. The wide receiver, like desert me, he would grab it, but he's putting him in a bad position to catch and run. And so the screen would just be over before it started.

[Jason Moore]

Not really taking the deep shots. You know, everything was, I don't know, it was extreme. I felt like I said this to you guys last night when we were talking. I felt like a disappointed father. Like my son who I have raised just really screwed up. He made a big mistake.

[Mike Wright]

Did you have a talk with him?

[Jason Moore]

I had to sit him down and say, I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed. And then I left and I shut the door.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, the door was sitting on the.

[Jason Moore]

Bed and I shut the door so he could think about it. I didn't go back. I went to bed. So, I mean, I'm, you know, look, if Tyron Smith is out there, Dak is still great. He is not able to deal with pressure right now and that's something we haven't really been able to test.

[Mike Wright]

Same with Derek Carr this year, by the way. Derek Carr, we, we hadn't, we didn't have to see that last year. He was almost never hit last year. Their offensive line isn't quite as good in Oakland and now Derek Carr doesn't look like quite the same quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

The Bushes have relayed a message to you that we believe Tyron Smith, me and the bushes believe.

[Jason Moore]

Just YouTube.

[Andy Holloway]

We believe that Smith will be back for the Thanksgiving.

[Mike Wright]

Is that enough though? If his confidence has been shaken a little bit without Zeke on the field.

[Andy Holloway]

I think, I think it is enough.

[Jason Moore]

I really do.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I do too he's going to have Joey Bosa to deal with regardless of Smith.

[Andy Holloway]

It's fair. But just the confidence boost that a hulk of a man is coming to protect you.

[Mike Wright]

You played Dak Prescott, you probably lost this week. Yeah, I mean that's what it equated to. This wasn't a kind of bad performance. This was a full on. This is a extra large size diaper full. I mean, this was a bad, bad week. Alex Smith, 27 for 40 for 230.

[Andy Holloway]

It's really the lack of two picks. Yeah. No, not the interceptions. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Just the lack of touchdowns. Yeah. I mean the accuracy is fine, whatever. That's Alex Smith. But didn't get it done in a matchup that everyone expected. It was a letdown game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. And people are asking questions, you know, about Smith, about Hunt, Buffalo, the Jets, Oakland. Those are the next three matchups for Alex Smith.

[Mike Wright]

I'll gladly take your chances.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And also keep in mind, if you weren't aware, the weather in that game was pretty brutal. The wind. So there was a couple deep balls. Alex Smith threw. Where you go, what happened? And it looked to my eyes that was wind. Wind knocked it off about three yards. And if you're throwing the ball three yards off where you, where you're trying to target, there's going to be a defender there.

[Mike Wright]

That's one of those things too that we brought up on the show a lot last week and we have an article that comes out every week with weather conditions right up to game day. So you can kind of have an understanding of how that might impact things. Because we're in November. This is the time of year where you're going to have some of these situations where it's cold somewhere, it's windy somewhere, it's snowy. Also known as the three nightmares of Leonard Fournette. So.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but he handled it.

[Mike Wright]

He handled it. Jared Goff, we told you to pump the brakes on him. He's a matchup play still. Even though he had two big weeks played Minnesota in. Minnesota didn't throw a touchdown and their team got handily defeated. So again, you need to kind of pay attention to the matchups.

[Jason Moore]

All right. He gets New Orleans at home.

[Mike Wright]

Not. I mean, I'm not excited about it.

[Jason Moore]

I think you're going to see Goff probably as a top 12 quarterback, but not up there in the top five.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I agree.

[Mike Wright]

Eli Manning, guys, he was my start in stream this week, but I did not know until late that Sterling shepherd with migraines was going to be out of this game. Ended up 19 for 35. He only passed the ball one time to Evan Ingram. So if you think about that, no Sterling shepherd, one past seven, Ingram, then you're talking about can Eli Manning put up a fantasy day with Roger Lewis? And the answer was no. Jay Cutler, Blake Bortles, Nathan Peterman, those were the other massive poopers. I don't think Peterman had big boy pants and he's not getting them now. He might have had him on order, but that order was canceled.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, it certainly was.

[Mike Wright]

We've talked about Doug Martin, but let's talk about some other running backs that let you down. Isaiah Cruell took that nice run of ascension and pooped all over it. 11 for 18 against Jacksonville. Kenyan Drake, we talked about him. Peterson, what about.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you do?

[Mike Wright]

Joe Mixon had the most career touches that he's ever had. I think he had 24 touches. I think he out touched Gio Bernard. 22 to 4, 24 to 4 and yet 20 for 49. Because what's. I mean, I think it's one part mix and one part O line.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's a lot. I would also argue that there's one part Denver. I mean, Denver has been a great rushing defense this year. And when you combine a good. Not. Not good, but a great rushing defense with a crappy offensive line, I mean, it's very difficult to have success. So I'm happy to see him with 20 carries that, that bodes well going forward. When you go, okay, Cleveland, they've been pretty good against the run, but they're not Denver, you know, that's their next week matchup.

[Mike Wright]

Then Pittsburgh, Chicago, Minnesota. Those are three.

[Jason Moore]

It doesn't get great. It doesn't get great for. It's not like you can go, okay, well, the schedule really opens up right. You're going to get Indianapolis and no, you've got. You got some tough matchups rest of the way. And I don't think this offensive line will allow Joe Mixon to be efficient with his running pretty much rest of season.

[Mike Wright]

Jerick McKinnon, he was okay, but he was 14 for 48, 5 for 12 through the air. He did not have any kind of burst plays that have helped him out and didn't score. DeMarco Murray, he had the bad game against Pittsburgh. He does have Indianapolis next week.

[Andy Holloway]

That's nice.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Mike Wright]

That's a get right game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

Rex Burkhead.

[Andy Holloway]

Rex Burkhead committed the ultimate sin.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Playing and being a part of the Patriots fumbling.

[Jason Moore]

No, it's fumbling with Papa Belichick.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he fumbled. He. He did get back in there and made six targets.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say the only thing that Rex Burkhead did was creep in on James White's passing role.

[Andy Holloway]

He didn't creep. I mean, he full on snatched and.

[Jason Moore]

Grabbed and got out of there. A burglar.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, he burgled because James White had one target. It's.

[Mike Wright]

It's Dion Lewis right now.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. Dion Lewis. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I feel like. I mean, last week I was confident Rex Burkett, if he hadn't fumbled, who knows? But he did. So this is where we are, and good luck.

[Mike Wright]

We had a lot of expectations for Golden Tate this year.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Golden Tate.

[Mike Wright]

And he was 3 for 32. Stefan Diggs 4 for 32. Devonte Parker, 4 for 26. Who are you most concerned about out of that bunch?

[Jason Moore]

Look, devontae Parker. We joke around here that devonte Parker doesn't get started until the fourth quarter because that's pretty much all year. That's when he, you know, that's what they're used. He's kind of been a garbage time player. And this was setting up. Well, except Matt Moore came in and Matt Moore's love affair is not devontae Parker. It's Kenny still. So if Matt Moore is the quarterback next week, I worry for devonte Parker's value versus if Jay Cutler is there. I'm not worried about Stefan Diggs at all.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not worried about Golden Tate.

[Mike Wright]

Even with Minnesota, Baltimore, the next two on the schedule for Tate.

[Jason Moore]

Correct.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, that's good to know because I think people will see those matchups. They'll be intimidated. Obviously. Tate moves around the field. Sammy Watkins 3 for 36 on four targets. This has been the up and down of Sammy Watkins. More down than up. But if Robert woods is out, Sammy Watkins suddenly looks pretty startable against New Orleans next, certainly. Okay, let's talk tight ends. Evan Ingram let you down. Gronkowski let you down. Zach Ertz let you down. What?

[Jason Moore]

Those are like the three best tight ends this year.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Only the only stud tight end. Seals Kelsey.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, okay. Seals Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

Man, please stop with Kelsey, who had the great matchup. He came through, but man, that's devastating. Ingram, Gronk and Ertz and Cameron Braid.

[Mike Wright]

Third straight week, one catch. And I want to know if you stay in the opposite of the flames with Braid at this point.

[Andy Holloway]

Stay in the ice.

[Mike Wright]

Stay in the ice.

[Andy Holloway]

With Winston out, you got to stay in the. In the ice. And then if.

[Jason Moore]

But there's.

[Andy Holloway]

There's Rumors, once again. I mean, the bushes have been. Have been speaking a lot this week.

[Mike Wright]

Spending way too much time in there.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you know, I'm a botanist.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, you're not. All right, continue.

[Andy Holloway]

But. But they. There's talk of Jameis actually playing this upcoming weekend, and if that happens, I.

[Mike Wright]

Read a report he's not going to play.

[Jason Moore]

I read a report this morning that said he is.

[Mike Wright]

A week or two more, miss.

[Jason Moore]

A week or two more.

[Andy Holloway]

One more.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, so I think those. Those bushes are poison ivy. You're going to want to check that out after the show. I was just going to say that. Yeah. Travis Kelsey, one of the only stud tight ends that performed well, but we still have Jimmy Graham as a stud tight.

[Mike Wright]

Fair left to see you excited about the game tonight. Falcons. Seahawks. Seahawks have lost Camp Chancellor. They've lost Richard Sherman. This is not going to be the same Seahawks the rest of season. They had already been kind of. They'd been good, but not elite.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fair.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Not like what we saw two or three years ago. And now you lose two of your biggest pieces. You will get Earl Thomas. Earl Thomas back on the field tonight. What do you expect to happen? Who do you expect to win this game tonight in Seattle?

[Jason Moore]

Seattle. I'm going to go with the home. There's a beat in Seattle.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to take Atlanta.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to take Atlanta, too.

[Mike Wright]

Well, all right, we'll leave you out there, Jason, with your hometown Seattle Seahawks.

[Jason Moore]

Don't you do that.

[Mike Wright]

That is it for today's show. Thank you for tuning in again. The Megalodon.

[Jason Moore]

Megalodon. Also, not only the Megalodon, but make sure you keep on the lookout for our annual Turkey Day Awards. Oh, by the Borgogan out there, Kyle.

[Mike Wright]

So that. That's a writer. We have a writer. He lives in the Upside down and he is. He's bringing the Turkey Day awards to the website. The fantasy footballers.com. there is 10 days. There are 10 days left. Not. There is 10 days left. There are 10 days left to win a signed Ty Hilton jersey, a signed Devonte Adams jersey, and a custom engraved championship ring from fantasychamps.com to enter it is free. You just go to footclangiveaway.com footclangiveaway.com and 10 days left, like I said, to win one of those goodies. Autographed jerseys or an engraved ring, which is pretty cool.

[Andy Holloway]

The case is engraved.

[Mike Wright]

Correct. The ring is displayed in the case. The case is engraved with your name. And a fantasy football championship. And the year and it is glory. It is great to brag with.

[Andy Holloway]

It is great.

[Mike Wright]

All right, thanks for listening to the show. Check out draft.comballers to participate in some Thanksgiving DFS with us and we'll catch you tomorrow Tuesday on Waiver Show.

[Andy Holloway]

Good luck, Bookland. See you tomorrow. Goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

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