Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 13 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Game Genie

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast – Week 13 Summary: Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Game Genie
Release Date: December 4, 2017

Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
Studio: Play Draft Studios

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1. Introduction and Week 13 Overview

The Fantasy Footballers kick off Week 13 with their characteristic blend of analysis, opinions, and actionable advice. The hosts dive straight into the performance assessments of key players, dissecting their impact on fantasy leagues and providing insights into emerging trends and potential pitfalls for fantasy managers.

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2. Studs of the Week: Players Who Excelled

Alex Smith (QB, Kansas City Chiefs)
Performance: 366 yards passing, 4 touchdowns
Hosts' Insight:
Jason Moore highlights Smith’s outstanding performance despite skepticism from many fantasy owners.

Jason Moore [13:27]: "Alex Smith put up 366 and 4 this week. I don't think a lot of people trusted him this week, but if you did, you were rewarded in a big way."

Josh McCown (QB, Arizona Cardinals)
Performance: 331 yards passing, 2 rushing touchdowns
Hosts' Insight:
McCown delivered a solid game, overcoming minor setbacks, which Michael Wright commends as a "great game" despite some field disruptions.

Jason Moore [13:35]: "McCown found him [Robbie Anderson]. Great game."

Travis Kelsey (TE, Kansas City Chiefs)
Performance: 2 touchdowns in the first 1:45
Hosts' Insight:
Kelsey’s explosive start was pivotal for many fantasy owners, especially those who capitalized on early-game success.

Mike Wright [33:10]: "Travis Kelsey went ham in the first, what, two touchdowns in a minute and 45."

Case Keenum (QB, Minnesota Vikings)
Performance: 227 yards passing, 2 touchdowns
Hosts' Insight:
Keenum’s efficiency and matchup advantage make him a reliable fantasy starter moving forward.

Andy Holloway [16:34]: "Another stud muffin quarterback to talk about. Russell Wilson put up an incredible performance yesterday."

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3. Duds of the Week: Players Who Underperformed

Kareem Hunt (RB, Cleveland Browns)
Performance: Limited carries and inconsistency
Hosts' Insight:
The trio debates whether Hunt should be benched after seven consecutive games with 100+ yards from scrimmage. Mike Wright mentions the risk of Hunt "submarining" fantasy teams.

Jason Moore [02:16]: "What do you do? Mike, we talked about this last week. What do you do?"

Matt Ryan (QB, Atlanta Falcons)
Performance: Underwhelming against Minnesota
Hosts' Insight:
Ryan’s inability to mount a comeback highlights his limitations in high-pressure fantasy scenarios.

Jason Moore [10:51]: "Matt Ryan let people down against Minnesota at home."

Zach Ertz (TE, Philadelphia Eagles)
Performance: Concussion concerns impacted his availability
Hosts' Insight:
Ertz’s recurring injuries necessitate careful monitoring and potential replacement in fantasy lineups.

Andy Holloway [35:59]: "Zach Ertz, history, concussions."

Jordan Howard (RB, Chicago Bears)
Performance: Only 13 carries
Hosts' Insight:
Howard’s reduced workload against favorable defenses raises doubts about his future reliability.

Jason Moore [49:16]: "Every time you look, he was throwing the ball to like with his eyes closed."

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4. Rising Stars: Potential Waiver Wire Additions

Trey Burton (TE, Philadelphia Eagles)
Performance: Increased targets following Ertz's injury
Hosts' Insight:
Burton emerges as a valuable asset, especially in situations where Ertz is sidelined, providing depth and consistent targets.

Jason Moore [36:17]: "Trey Burton is a rising star because we've talked about it a couple of times."

Mike Davis (RB, Seattle Seahawks)
Performance: 64 rushing yards, 37 receiving yards
Hosts' Insight:
Davis offers versatility in the Seahawks' offense, making him a prime candidate for late-season pickups.

Andy Holloway [39:28]: "Mike Davis is for sure the starting running back for the Seattle Seahawks."

Rex Burkhead (RB, New England Patriots)
Performance: 15 total touches, multiple touchdowns
Hosts' Insight:
Burkhead’s role as a goal-line back ensures consistent fantasy points, making him a must-start in many lineups.

Mike Wright [40:34]: "Rex Burkhead... you are a weekly must start for me."

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5. Injuries and Their Impact on Fantasy Teams

Zach Ertz (TE, Philadelphia Eagles)
Ertz’s concussion raises concerns about his availability and necessitates finding reliable backups like Trey Burton or Eli Rogers.

Jason Moore [11:43]: "Ertz hasn't even said anything. Do you want to say anything?"

Tyrod Taylor (QB, Buffalo Bills)
Taylor’s knee injury reduces the Bills' playoff chances and impacts fantasy managers who may consider defensive plays against Buffalo.

Jason Moore [10:10]: "You have a full, legit excuse to play any defense facing the Buffalo Bills."

Nick Novak (K, Cleveland Browns)
Novak’s voluntary placement on IR forces fantasy managers to seek replacements, highlighting the importance of having robust kicker options.

Jason Moore [11:43]: "Nick Novak promptly heard your rhyme and went on IR voluntarily."

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6. Team Management Updates

Ben McAdoo Fired (New York Jets)
The Jets part ways with coach Ben McAdoo amidst disappointing performances, signaling a potential shift in the team's management strategy.

Jason Moore [42:22]: "Ben McAdoo... that's right."

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7. Player Performance Highlights and Analysis

Julio Jones (WR, Atlanta Falcons)
Jones struggled due to Minnesota’s stout defense and his team's offensive limitations, impacting fantasy point potential.

Andy Holloway [56:13]: "Julio Jones's poor game as opposed to, you know, the week prior."

Keenan Allen (WR, Los Angeles Chargers)
After a downturn, Allen reignites his performance with three straight games of over 100 yards and consistent targets, restoring faith in his fantasy value.

Mike Wright [31:15]: "Keenan Allen... he's been on fire."

Nelson Agholor (WR, Philadelphia Eagles)
Agholor shows promise with targeted plays despite inconsistent quarterback performance, making him a strategic play in certain matchups.

Jason Moore [29:23]: "Nelson Aguilar had a great game, 7 for 1, 41 and 1."

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8. Community and Personal Notes

The hosts share light-hearted moments and personal anecdotes, including Mike Wright’s Disneyland experience and the camaraderie within their fantasy leagues. These segments reinforce the podcast’s engaging and relatable atmosphere, fostering a strong connection with their audience.

Mike Wright [44:01]: "We come up to this show, we did a live show here in Phoenix, the foot clan showed up..."

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9. Conclusion and Takeaways

As Week 13 wraps up, the Fantasy Footballers emphasize the importance of staying informed and adaptive, especially with player injuries and emerging rising stars. They encourage listeners to remain engaged with the sport, whether through traditional leagues or alternative formats like dynasty leagues and daily fantasy contests.

Andy Holloway [06:29]: "The best thing you could do is just, you know, keep listening to this show. Make sure you keep watching football. Just have fun."

The hosts sign off by reminding listeners to join their community and stay connected for ongoing fantasy football advice and support.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jason Moore [02:16]: "What do you do? Mike, we talked about this last week. What do you do?"
• Andy Holloway [35:59]: "Zach Ertz, history, concussions."
• Mike Wright [40:34]: "Rex Burkhead... you are a weekly must start for me."

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Final Thoughts:

This episode provides comprehensive insights into Week 13’s fantasy football landscape, balancing in-depth analysis with entertaining banter. Whether you’re reassessing your lineup, hunting for waiver wire gems, or simply staying ahead of the fantasy curve, the Fantasy Footballers deliver the expertise and enthusiasm needed to excel in your league.

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Hey, It's Martavis Bryant, aka Marty McBride.

[Mike Wright]

And you listen to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from the Play Draft Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Ah, the boys are back again.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, school to be back.

[Jason Moore]

The whole crew, Scooter be back. America, back in the building. Just remember, if you're listening to those podcasts, under the earth, down beneath the ground, you never.

[Mike Wright]

You never hit like the dig up in Boston?

[Jason Moore]

Nope.

[Mike Wright]

The Big Dig. I don't. They call it something like that.

[Andy Holloway]

What is that?

[Mike Wright]

That was their huge tunnel project from back in the 90s or something.

[Jason Moore]

You're up on tunnel lore?

[Mike Wright]

You're darn right.

[Jason Moore]

Projects.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, where do you think he's been this last week?

[Mike Wright]

Just so you know, when you're on who Wants to Be a Millionaire and you got a phone, a friend about a tunnel, you know who to call.

[Jason Moore]

All the Kareem Hunt owners are in that tunnel right now. They're burying themselves.

[Andy Holloway]

They have no service.

[Mike Wright]

Trust me. I'm in there, too.

[Jason Moore]

I am, too. I ranked him for this week. I'll be the first to admit I thought Andy Reid play calling goes away, we're going to have common sense that trickles down here.

[Andy Holloway]

Sarkandrick west gone. All right.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The Jets, I mean, they're going to. No, the wheels are falling off. Three six and six teams top that division.

[Mike Wright]

Well, because to be fair, I mean, we had that half where Andy Reid gave Kareem Hunt, you know, the four carries in the first half or whatever. And the. The new play caller said, hold my beer. Here's one carry in the first quarter.

[Jason Moore]

What did Kareem Hunt do to deserve this?

[Mike Wright]

I don't know. He's getting. He's getting Ingram.

[Jason Moore]

Did he.

[Mike Wright]

The old school Sean Payton Ingram treatment.

[Jason Moore]

And I want to look. Let's just look at this for a second. Let's just talk Kareem Hunt right now. Yes, because what people need to understand here. And I get it. Look, you want to bench him, go bench him. But this was not three games to start the year. Just to be clear. This was seven consecutive games with 100 or more yards.

[Mike Wright]

All purpose scrimmage.

[Jason Moore]

From scrimmage. Sorry, from scrimmage. Seven games in a row. Consecutively consecutive games in a row. In order back to back to back to back to back to back to back.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, nice.

[Jason Moore]

And now you're in this place where he's submarining fantasy seasons. And what do you do? Mike, we talked about this last week. What do you do?

[Mike Wright]

I don't know, man. But so I'll give my example, right? So in the. In the Dynasty League, Andy, how did give us an update on undefeated.

[Andy Holloway]

The judge.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, hail the judge.

[Andy Holloway]

The mighty Judge Brooks takes him down.

[Jason Moore]

The pressure for the perfect season has been removed.

[Mike Wright]

Down goes Frazier.

[Jason Moore]

And you want to know why? Because.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, the judge.

[Jason Moore]

The judge brought a verdict of guilty.

[Andy Holloway]

The plaintiff, Brooks Carmine says your team is not nearly good enough to be undefeated.

[Jason Moore]

I blame. I blame Adrian Peterson for this. His late inactive forced me to play a guy by the name of devonte Parker.

[Mike Wright]

I feel like you should blame Parker.

[Jason Moore]

Devonte Parker. I know people think that, but devonte Parker, he got that invisibility cloak from Harry Potter and he has put it on for the last like five weeks.

[Mike Wright]

Especially the way that Kirwan Williams was running. Were you just looking at all the points? Adrian Peters?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, of course I was.

[Mike Wright]

But anyways, so back back on track.

[Jason Moore]

This is quite a wacky video. You needed to troll me? Go ahead. Y. Oh, by the way, Brooks hasn't even said anything. Do you want to say anything? Brooks undefeated Denied. I was expecting a you lose.

[Andy Holloway]

Nope. No, that was bad.

[Jason Moore]

But that was more authoritarian.

[Mike Wright]

But in the. In the Dynasty League I will be looking at because I mean I have luckily have some running back depth that has surfaced in the the face of Rex Goathead. I will be looking at possibly playing Rex Burkhead over Kareem Hunt. And I don't. Hopefully people have, you know, you've gathered up that running back depth. But I am overall, I would say I'm with Andy that I don't know if you can actually bench him. I know he's in a rut.

[Jason Moore]

9 of 12 weeks still double digits in our league.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's still Oakland.

[Jason Moore]

Very serviceable Oakland. Not a great defense at home. Their next three games, right? The fantasy playoffs, they're all at home. Kansas City's at Arrowhead for Oakland The Chargers, Miami. I mean, that doesn't get any better, does it? But here's the big key. And this is what I'm learning as I grow and become wise. If you don't get the ball, you score nothing.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. It's so bizarre. It worked. I mean, right? It worked out in the beginning of the game to.

[Jason Moore]

I thought you meant for the Chiefs because it did not work for the Chiefs.

[Andy Holloway]

It lost.

[Mike Wright]

I understand, but I was saying the beginning of the game, two quick strikes.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

To Travis Kelsey. So I imagine as a play caller, you wow, I'm unstoppable. And you become infatuated with the pass and Alex Smith has this huge statistical game, but you still lost. So hopefully they can look in the mirror and say, well, maybe we should slow, we should have slowed things down a little BIT with a 14 point.

[Jason Moore]

Lead and studs and duds on the show today. We'll get into the rewind. Jason, a quick question for you. If you're knocked out of the fantasy playoffs, Kareem Hunt let you down yesterday. Somebody else. How can you use the rest of this season to prepare for next season?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think that's actually a really important question because I've shared this before but you know, a decade ago if I was out of the playoffs and I, you know, I would, I would stop paying attention to what happened. I would stop following the games and I didn't realize how much that hurt. My following season where you pick up from knowledge wise, you're missing the, you know, look, Mike Davis.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

You. If you don't pay attention to what happens the rest of the season, you might come into next year going, ah, I don't even really know who that guy is. And maybe he's someone really important for 2018. So the best thing you could do is just, you know, we try to make this entertaining and fun for all. I would make sure you keep listening to this show. Make sure you keep watching football. Just have fun. I mean fantasy football is fun. And look, nowadays, unlike a decade ago, you can then go over and play drafts on, play draft. You can play FanDuel or DraftKings. You know, they're. Just because you're out of your main league doesn't mean that fantasy football is over.

[Mike Wright]

You can do playoffs football leagues.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

So I mean there's all sorts of things you can do right now.

[Jason Moore]

Join the NFL.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Join a franchise.

[Andy Holloway]

Go to open tryouts like become a.

[Jason Moore]

Disney movie like Mark Wahlberg. There you go.

[Andy Holloway]

I was thinking more what, Tony Danza?

[Mike Wright]

No, they found him. They found him in the dump.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the way that in fairness, that's the way I expect it to go down for me. I expect to be discovered. To be discovered in a dump. In the dump.

[Mike Wright]

Outside of like a buffet.

[Andy Holloway]

That's probably more.

[Mike Wright]

We need a lineman.

[Jason Moore]

Well, look, pick him up to piggyback on Jason, Stay connected with us on jointhefoot.com we do extra episodes all year round. We are a year round fantasy football podcast. So come join our community. That's how people have built the foundation for their [e-mail] now, quick shout out, Pat Patterson.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, baby.

[Jason Moore]

Jason and I. Jason and I may or may not be going on almost no sleep for the last 36. And it's May, we may be. But we were calling the drafts World Series of Fantasy final from New York City over the weekend. We had one Foot Clan member in the final table.

[Mike Wright]

So fantastic.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah, one of the. One of the Foot clan representing at.

[Jason Moore]

The final table and he won. He won the 25,000 down. So that was awesome.

[Mike Wright]

Congrats.

[Jason Moore]

That was great. We had a good time. All right. Also, quick update, Jason. We had a little water bet this week. I bet that Josh Gordon would outperform Corey Coleman. How many catches on a did Corey Coleman have?

[Andy Holloway]

Corey Coleman had infinite. Four targets.

[Jason Moore]

Four targets, okay.

[Mike Wright]

But zero receptions. I mean, you could just say Josh.

[Jason Moore]

Gordon four for 85. We'll talk about him a little bit later.

[Andy Holloway]

And that was on Casey Hayward, which.

[Jason Moore]

By the way, that was like his seventh or the most production on Casey Hayward in like two years or something like that.

[Mike Wright]

That was. Yeah, it was JJ Zachary, good friend of the show. JJ had tweeted out that only the only other receiver to put up production on Casey Hayward like that, Odell Beckham.

[Jason Moore]

Nice return for Josh Gordon. Yeah, you've got to be wondering if you get to play him in the playoffs. Certainly that'll be a discussion for this week for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Weekly rewind.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Tyrod Taylor, carted off with a knee injury in the third quarter, didn't return. I don't think it's serious. We'll find out more this week. The opinions that I've read don't think it's serious.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's not serious. But you're looking at possibly missing time. You're looking at a team that is now likely done out of the playoff hunt. And now the coaching staff and the management of the Buffalo Bills have a full legit excuse to play Nathan Peterman over Tyrod.

[Jason Moore]

And you as a fantasy owner have A full, legit excuse to play any defense facing the Buffalo Bills.

[Mike Wright]

Absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

And it hurts if he misses time. It hurts. LaShawn McCoy.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, it does.

[Jason Moore]

Tremendously. Matthew Stafford diagnosed with a bruise on his throwing hand. If you saw him walk off the field, his hand was bleeding. It was beat up. X rays came back negative. He's a tough dude. I bet he plays.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

And they're in the. They're in the hunt.

[Mike Wright]

But I will say, recall last year.

[Andy Holloway]

I was gonna bring it up.

[Mike Wright]

Matthew Stafford toughed it out when he had a dislocated finger and his stats went.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he was going well.

[Mike Wright]

Unusable for fantasy.

[Jason Moore]

Tom Montgomery placed on ir. It's all Jamal Williams and Aaron Jones. Jones had one run to win the game.

[Andy Holloway]

This is a pretty good one.

[Jason Moore]

Zach ertz left week 13 with a concussion. Now, Ertz has had. He's dealt with this before.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And so we need to monitor Zach Ertz. This is going to have an impact on my rising star pick. We've got the raising canes, rising stars later on the show today. So we'll talk more about Zach Ertz and whether we expect him back next week. Kobe Fleeners on IR with a concussion. If you hadn't heard that. And then your boom boom kicker, Nick Novak promptly heard your rhyme and went on IR voluntarily. He said, I am not going to take part in this.

[Andy Holloway]

His replacement was good.

[Mike Wright]

Who was the replacement?

[Andy Holloway]

His replacement.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, now, I believe you said, if you're worried about his health, take a Prozac.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You're going to need a lot of them because he's on ir.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Didn't go well. Hey, big news. ALSHON Jeffrey.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Four year, $52 million extension. They built this. Carson Wentz, Alshon Jeffrey, Mack Hollins Foundation. Are you excited about this? I mean, we saw a great game from Nelson Aguilar, only 24 years old. Alshon Jeffrey, he's going to be 28 in February, so he's in his prime.

[Andy Holloway]

The Philadelphia Eagles have almost all of their key pieces locked up until 2020. We're talking, you know, offensive line, Lane Johnson, Fletcher Cox. The core of this team is young, intact and under contract. I would love to be a Philadelphia fan right now.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it was fantastic. It was. Alshon bet on himself. He won.

[Jason Moore]

The Eagles number one offense.

[Mike Wright]

I think they did the right thing. They took, you know, the chance. They took the flyer on Alshon and they recognized, hey, this is good. Let's not drag this out into a drama of the off season. Do we have to franchise him yet? No, he's an elite level wide receiver. Let's lock him up.

[Andy Holloway]

So we're one.

[Mike Wright]

Great move.

[Andy Holloway]

We're one for two on players betting for themselves. Oh, on the one year contract.

[Jason Moore]

You'll be a free agent soon.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's go ahead and talk about some of the big performers of Week 13.

[Andy Holloway]

This week's fantasy stud muffins.

[Jason Moore]

I'm debating whether I should bring this up or not. Well, I'll think about it. All right, Alex Smith. Alex smith put up 19 for 33. Well, here's what I was gonna bring up. So Alex Smith put up 366 and four this week. And right after, like the fourth touchdown, I get a special notification from an unnamed source that tells me how good Alex Smith might be the rest of the year in terms of his schedule. And you need to pay attention to him. I just thought it was a little opportunistic. Like, I would like to send out notifications to all of our followers after all the players have good weeks. And just say, I think they're gonna have a good week this week because my accuracy will go way up. Like Alex Collins. That's a good shot to put up big numbers today. Anyways, Alex Smith. 366 and 4. I don't think a lot of people trusted him this week, but if you did, you were rewarded in a big way. Thrilled to see Josh McCown deliver for the streamers out there. 331, a touchdown, two rushing touchdown, two rushing touchdowns. A gamer played great. Curse Robbie Anderson left the field for a little bit, but McCown found him. Great game. And the three running backs, all three contributed. Forte, McGuire, Powell, Jason. How did Blake Bortles do this week?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man. Guys, look, if you haven't heard me talk much on this episode, there's. There's a lot of reasons for it today.

[Mike Wright]

It's so sad.

[Andy Holloway]

Today's celebration, gentlemen, one of those reasons is in the aforementioned Dynasty league. I was going head to head against Mike. It's a win and get in situation now. I'm not out of it. Still got a couple players that just need big games tonight, but probably out. Unless I had played the guy that I had in my lineup. Ooh. Prior to the late switch out, I had Blake Bortles in there. He did pretty good. He had a very nice week. 300 yards, two touchdowns, 27 rushing yards. I played Matt Ryan. So I'm going to need a big game from Antonio Brown and Joe Mixon.

[Jason Moore]

Real big, real, real, real, real big.

[Mike Wright]

You need some of Those Nick Novaks.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, do we update the Antonio Brown situation yet?

[Mike Wright]

Nope.

[Jason Moore]

So Antonio Brown, right now, as of the recording of this show, Monday, December 4th, it's looking good. We have no definitive news. It's still a game time decision. Hopefully you're stocked up with the juju Martavis. Jesse James, I'm telling you, Jesse James is a sneaky play tonight. Regardless. I just think Jesse James has potential today. And then, you know, you need somebody. You need. At a minimum, you got to have a LaFell or somebody you can roll in Eli Rogers for the Monday night game. So game time decision. Optimistic he plays. And another stud muffin quarterback to talk about. Russell Wilson put up an incredible performance yesterday. They beat the Eagles. They. They look like they're still a force without their defense having all of their weapons.

[Mike Wright]

He saves everything he does for the second half.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Not just of the season, but of every single game. He's just padding that fourth quarter touchdown stat.

[Andy Holloway]

He's amazing. I think last night's game was, you know, a preview of that NFC championship. We can. I also throw out Case Keenum. Andy, your start of the week, my stream of the week. He was 227 and two touchdowns on the road. Had a really solid game. I think he is safer going forward than what Panthers. Than what his name suggests?

[Mike Wright]

No, on the road.

[Andy Holloway]

Again, not Panthers on the road. But this is what I, this is what I mean is that the game after that he has a tough matchup at home against Cincinnati?

[Jason Moore]

It's not that tough.

[Andy Holloway]

But I'm saying it's not too tough for Case Keenum.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm saying I will start Case Keenum at home against Cincinnati. Sure. And that, you know, a couple weeks ago you might have gone, well, that's not. You're only starting Case Keenum in the juiciest of matchups. I don't think that's true. The Minnesota offense looks really solid.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Minnesota. And look, Minnesota's fighting to potentially have home field throughout the entire playoffs.

[Mike Wright]

Are they officially the number one?

[Jason Moore]

They are officially the number one seed right now, but they're fighting with Philadelphia. I think it goes to like a fourth tiebreaker right now, and Minnesota has that. But this is an opportunity for Minnesota to have two home games and then a home game, super bowl, home. I mean, that's their situation right now. So huge opportunity. You like to see that. You like to hear that if you're a Carson Wentz owner. Look, last night, it wasn't great, but he's great. He put together some amazing plays. That fumble basically into that game, if you get in the end zone there, his game changes. He still had a 20 plus night, but you want Carson Wentz, Case Keenum and those weapons on both those teams fighting for home field advantage throughout the playoffs. So that week 16 comes along and you're not saying, well, do they take it easy? Do they go, you know, vanilla, Keep a guy rested, whatever it is you want them fighting. Running backs, special spot reserved now for Alvin Camara.

[Mike Wright]

He has like, he's like the VIP behind the, behind the red velvet rope. Well, I mean, always reserved for what.

[Jason Moore]

More can you say nine for 62? It's the same thing every week.

[Andy Holloway]

It doesn't matter how many times.

[Jason Moore]

10 to 14 touches for two touchdowns and a million yards per carry.

[Mike Wright]

A beast.

[Andy Holloway]

But that's every week. No, every week.

[Mike Wright]

This was, this was a specialty when Sheck Thompson, I believe it was, blew him up. I mean, first of all, you're play defense, wrap him up, I mean, learn how to tackle. But he did his best to just explode the body parts of Alvin Camara into every random position. But Camara just. Oh, that's, that's a, oh, glancing blow.

[Andy Holloway]

Didn't tackle me.

[Mike Wright]

I'm gonna go score a touchdown now. Thank you so much.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like that's the third time this season where he's been just dead to rights. And then he puts his hand on the ground and says, I'm gonna stay up and then do a little spin, do a little jump, hop a guy go over here. I'm gonna disappear. I'm gonna reappear in the end zone.

[Jason Moore]

That's.

[Mike Wright]

He's a magician.

[Jason Moore]

What was that? What was that thing used to hook up to the old Nintendo's that got you all the cheat codes?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, Game Genie.

[Andy Holloway]

Game Genie was.

[Jason Moore]

That's my Nick.

[Andy Holloway]

Damn.

[Jason Moore]

That's my nickname for Alvin Camara.

[Andy Holloway]

Now did you guys ever.

[Mike Wright]

Of course I use the game.

[Andy Holloway]

But did you guys ever make your own codes? Do you remember when you could do that? Yeah, you could. Oh, I played with this like crazy.

[Jason Moore]

You could lose in his mind, literally.

[Andy Holloway]

There was a mode where you could turn it on and like put in random characters and create new like mistakes in the game that were cheat codes. Oh, that was a blast.

[Mike Wright]

If you want to have a full on Game Genie podcast, I'm down for this.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm down.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, throwing in battle toads, which is impossible to beat, but then you put on like the moon jump.

[Andy Holloway]

And yeah, everyone's always like, oh, you know, you can jump over the flag In Mario. No, you can't.

[Jason Moore]

Alvin. Alvin Kamara used two moon jumps yesterday. Monster game. What do you need to know about him though? You're going to start him. The questions that I have, look, Alex Collins has now become. Because this defense is so stout, they're in the lead a lot of the time. Two touchdowns in this game. Rex Burkheadt, two touchdowns on 15 touches. Kenyon Drake, somebody. I moved way up in the rankings this week because look, you take a shot with Kenyan Drake on a big play, right? He's a lot like Alvin Camara in the sense that it only takes one or two to have relevance. And then all of a sudden you hand him a bunch of volume and you get the 23 carries, 120 yards and a touchdown, three for 21. Through the air they just steamrolled Denver. I mean Denver got destroyed. And we talked about this before, Denver's first half of the year rushing defense. Nothing like the second half of the year where he's there 28th against the run. You saw that come to fruition with Kenyon Drake.

[Mike Wright]

Now that was with Damian Williams out, right? You would hope, you would hope that the coaching sensibilities, the coaching staff says, okay, Kenyon Drake, you are far superior to Damian Williams. You will be the starter, the primary ball carrier.

[Andy Holloway]

That won't happen. But I will say this, I don't expect Damian Williams to be back healthy for another week or two. I think you're Kenyon Drake, you're going to get him probably all alone this week. Even if Damian Williams is active this week, I don't expect him to take over that. I mean his shoulder was separated so that's usually a multi week injury.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Go to ziprecruiter.com Footballers free is very inexpensive. Best kind. All right, other big games. Mark Ingram had the big run. It got in the end zone again. You can count on those running backs in New Orleans. Big statement win takes over the division.

[Andy Holloway]

Six receptions. So I mean, beautiful. I mean you can't ask for more than that.

[Jason Moore]

Jamal Williams, 21 for 113. They leaned on him. But how do you see that split?

[Mike Wright]

I was just gonna say, how do.

[Jason Moore]

You see the split gone? I Aaron Jones, we knew that the workload wasn't going to be heavy for him, probably coming off the injury.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

But he made the most of it. 20 yard touchdown run. I think you're going to see. I think you're going to see more of a split.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's going to be more split than it was last night. But it will be Jamal Williams.

[Mike Wright]

You think it'll be more split than.

[Jason Moore]

The 21 to 1 split?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. My point is it's not going to be all Jamal Williams.

[Mike Wright]

That's a bad call, Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

But my actual call here is that it will be the Jamal Williams show because Jamal Williams was the starter ahead of Aaron Jones. The only reason Aaron Jones, you know, got his crack first was due to injury to Jamal Williams. Well, now they've both been injured. Jamal Williams has come and proven. Yeah, you were right to have me first in the depth chart or second in the depth chart ahead of Aaron Jones. That's the guy they drafted first. And both of them have looked great. There will be a little bit of a timeshare, but if I have to start one next week, I will say this. I'll be happy to start Jamal Williams next week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, the Mike McCarthy runs his running backs. It's like a waiver system. It's who. But it's with health. If you get injured, you move to the bottom.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. You're back on the line. Yep.

[Mike Wright]

You got to wait your turn again. So for Aaron Jones, I think to return to that, the. The top of the mountain of the timeshare, it would take an injury to Jamal Williams.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so we know that the Raiders were missing some weapons in the passing game. We said, Marshawn, maybe he's going to have a big game. He beast moded. 51 yard touchdown, had a great week. He's been delivering for you as a Fantasy owner lately. 17 more carries, 101 yards and a touchdown targeted three times. Caught two balls. All the reports right now, Ian Rapaport talking about Amari Cooper. He's right now just hopeful to return and get to play in Week 14 against the Chiefs. We know Crabtree will be back with the reduced suspension, but Marshawn lynch, right now, he's a very reliable player. I think what we're seeing here is you're looking at Alex Collins, Jamal Williams, march on Lynch. They're in this reliable carry tote vein right now where you can feel pretty comfortable if any of those guys are your RB2. Right now going into the fantasy playoffs, I'd feel pretty cozy.

[Mike Wright]

Would you feel cozier with them or with Kareem Hunt?

[Jason Moore]

I'd feel cozier with them right now, but I would feel more excited still with Kareem Hunt in the potential to give you that big game. But right now, I think enough. Enough shyness come off Kareem Hunt after this last performance. Enough dysfunction in the offense in Kansas City to cause me to be both excited and afraid at the same time.

[Mike Wright]

Sure. The guy I want to talk about is Peyton Barber, running back for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, which this was.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, makes sense, though you weren't.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly sure what to do, how to handle because Doug Martin was going to be out with a concussion. You kind of assumed it would be Jacquiz Rodgers because Rogers was the primary guy to start the year when. When Martin was facing his suspension, it came out super late, kind of during the inactives on Sunday morning. No, in fact, Peyton Barber is going to be the starter, but he balled out 23 carries, 102 yards, four receptions and 41 yards. I mean, he. And it wasn't. It's not just numbers. When you. I was watching him, he looked very good. And he's had, you know, last year, he came in in relief of Doug Martin during his injury last year and looked pretty decent. My question is for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers moving forward into next year. This season's gone.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly.

[Mike Wright]

This season is gone. And to me, there is no way. There is no way that you can hold on to Doug Martin for the amount of money that you owe him when you can cut him with no penalty. And do you feel like, let's say Doug Martin's cleared to play next week, does it immediately go back to Doug Martin or does the team say, we're going to start evaluating and see if Peyton Barber can be our guy next year?

[Jason Moore]

They lost this game. They're out of the playoffs. Peyton Barber's 23 years old. He has theoretical upside compared to a guy like Jacquiz Rogers getting snaps or Doug Martin getting cut out. Snap Jacquist Rogers, 52 to 5. Definitely somebody that you. I think you need to think twice about if Doug Martin comes back. I think the default reaction is what you said. It's going to be. Just throw Barber away. But if you're evaluating this team and what you have, it makes sense to give Barbara more opportunities.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would hold him on my fantasy roster, but I would default. Yeah, I would add him to a fantasy roster, but I would still expect it to go back to Doug Martin.

[Jason Moore]

We are going to get into the waivers, obviously, on tomorrow's show, get you more prepared to pick up players that can impact this first week of the playoffs. Maybe you got the buy and you're looking two weeks away. We'll talk about defenses that you need to pick up and start. And you got to be looking now to a couple.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Weeks away from here. Wide receivers, explosion from Tyreek Hill. Two touchdowns on 185.

[Mike Wright]

Goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

Start of the week.

[Jason Moore]

Beautiful. Yeah, beautiful call there, Jason. Nelson Aguilar looks great. Nelson Aguilar has. He uses the game genie, but it's Only active if 5 seconds has gone off the clock from the snap. He's not a good player until then. But when five seconds goes off and Carson Wentz is doing spin move, the scramble drill, dunking around, I mean, aguilar is like 10 yards away from in the nearest defender at all times. He two balls last night. Okay. He had a great game, right? Nelson Aguilar, 7 for 1, 41 and 1. This could have been bigger. A lot bigger. Missed him on a crossing route early. I know Chris Collins where the thing talked about missing that pass 650 times after he missed it. I don't know why he just kept bringing that up. It's like not. Not like Russell Wilson didn't miss a pass, so. Because he basically just kept saying, if that play happened, the whole game's different. But even the other one, he hit him on a crossing route across the field, but he threw it way behind Aguilar. If he threw it ahead of him, it's a touchdown there, too. So there were two bombs that could have easily happened with Nelson Aguilar. I think at this point, you know, you're still taking a risk with him because he's not the one. This is like playing any two, right? You play anybody outside of the first target. You had the advantage of for Aguilar, of Zach Ertz going off the field with the concussion concerns. And so Aguilar became a little bit more of a focal point. And you also had Carson Wentz for throw for 350 plus yards. So I wouldn't overreact. But a good game for Maguire.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a good game. And you bring up a great point with the earth's news. And because this is not the first concussion for Ertz, I wouldn't be shocked at all if Hertz is not active this week. And if that's the case, Nelson Aguilar would be a very good play. I'm more thrilled to talk about a guy that you just can't possibly sit right now. Keenan Allen. Oh. Oh, my goodness. He's been on fire. His schedule coming up is great. Mike, you want to say something?

[Mike Wright]

I just. I feel like I had to apologize here for Keenan out.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm like, you spent years ago. You don't need to apologize.

[Mike Wright]

Well, just the fact that, like, I pushed him so hard last year, two years ago, last year even pushed him hard coming into this draft season, saying, you, Keenan Allen in the fourth and the fifth round is going to be a steal. And then I finally. The moment I accept the fate that Keenan Allen is giving people during that midseason stretch, which is you're A wide receiver, three. I mean, you're, you're putting up poor numbers. Numbers that I can find off the waiver wire. As soon as I accept that fate. That's when Keenan Allen said, oh, ye of little faith, and then explodes. And Keenan Allen, three straight games, double digit targets. Double digit receptions, over 100 yards in three straight games. Feel more, at least a touchdown, you.

[Jason Moore]

Know, more comfortable starting Keenan Allen right now or Julio Jones.

[Mike Wright]

Keenan Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

That's.

[Jason Moore]

See, there you go. That's the confidence level with three straight. He's in the Flames.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. And his quarterback knows that he is in the Flames. Philip Rivers. And Philip Rivers is like, yep, let's ride this until the wheels fall off home.

[Jason Moore]

Larry Fitzgerald blew it up again. 10 for 98 and a touchdown. He plays so good at home. And they're home next week against Tennessee. He even plays well at home. He plays good and well at home.

[Mike Wright]

Superman does good.

[Jason Moore]

That's right. Jermaine Curse, nine for 157. This was a player that Jason mentioned last week is, look, I know we all like Robbie Anderson, but this is a sneaky opportunity for Curse. He's a great player. And then Marquise Lee, 7 for 86 and a touchdown. A couple pretty difficult catches in this game. Lee and Westbrook offering them some, some power at the wide receiver position.

[Mike Wright]

Certainly more power. More power.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Travis Kelsey went ham in the first, what, two touchdowns in a minute and 45.

[Mike Wright]

And in the first two plays he went ham. And then kind of, yeah, here's a hot tip.

[Andy Holloway]

It was really stupid of them to stop throwing the ball to him because as, as their offense, as their offense really struggled later, they kept showing all these clips of like, oh yeah, Kelsey was streaking wide open again and again and again.

[Jason Moore]

He took a few more shots at him later, but yeah, his production was a limited time event. However, it was enough for a lot of people to win their week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Pat Patterson, World series of fantasy winner Travis Kelsey started the day off and he was high fiving everybody. So Evan Ingram, what a game from Ingram. 7 for 99 and a touchdown with Geno Smith including a one handed grab that maybe put to bed some of those drop concerns from last week.

[Mike Wright]

This just, this made me so happy because on the periscope, Evan Ingram's name came up a lot. And I wasn't recommending to bench Engram, but there was people giving me, you know, kind of comparable names and it was, we don't know what Geno is going to do. We don't know if he's going to hyper target Shepard. If he's going to hyper target Ingram, he should. But when it's a new quarterback, you don't know for sure what is going to happen.

[Jason Moore]

Our advice last week with Shepard and Ingram was, look, you have to be honest and say we don't have a track record with Geno Smith. We don't know what's going to happen. But also, you can't, you can't let that lack of knowledge throw out the number five tight end on the year, which is where Ingram was.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, there's two guys this week that are very likely to have been dropped possibly onto the waivers. Evan Ingram after his poor stretch and then Eli Manning getting benched. There's going to be a lot of leagues where you can pick him up off of waivers. Must add, and I'll throw Cameron Braid into that mix. Hey, we're back because Cameron Brait was a top six tight end on the season with Jameis and then Jameis went away and so did Cameron Brait. Fitzpatrick just wouldn't target him. We come back to this game, I'm watching intently because Jameis was, you know, one of the more important pieces in the World Series of Fantasy final table. And every target seemed like when the game was, when it still mattered and the game was on the line, it was going Cameron Brait's way. Two touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

When the play breaks down for Jameis Winston, he can hit the A button and that's Cameron Brait. Or you can hit the B button and that is kind of like flail around and throw the ball awkwardly to the other team.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, but you got to throw that late after. Once you're in the position of getting sacked.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

That's when you just toss the ball.

[Mike Wright]

It was the most Jameis game ever.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And his numbers are fine.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he was, he was great for fantasy if you took the chance on him. But then he came through with his ridiculous play. And Cameron Brait up the seam for a 20, 30 yard touchdown. This is what he's doing weekly when he was earlier in the season.

[Andy Holloway]

Raising Canes rising stars of the week.

[Jason Moore]

I'll jump in first with my Raising Cane's rising star of the Week. And that is because we've talked about it a couple of times. Zach Ertz, history, concussions. Bigger fish to fry for the Eagles than winning this week. Having Zachary in this week and a very talented replacement tight end. I'm going. Trey Burton, rising star.

[Mike Wright]

And it's a hot take.

[Jason Moore]

It's a wild rising star, but it's the Kind of play where I'd rather throw Trey Burton out there. With what Wentz can do, identifying the middle of the field and how important the tight end position is for the Eagles, I'd rather throw Trey Burton out there than. I think I would Tyler Croft.

[Andy Holloway]

Absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

Next week for the Eagles. So if Ertz. This is an. If Ertz is out, Trey Burton is startable.

[Andy Holloway]

This is one of the only.

[Mike Wright]

That sounds like algebra. Andy and I don't appreciate 4 for.

[Jason Moore]

42 and limited work last night.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, and the second that we were watching the game on a plane flying back, and so the second that we saw Ertz go down, I turned to Annie, I said, we've got to pick up Trey Burton in the Scottie Fishbowl League because he will be extremely utilized. We've seen it every single time. Ertz has gone and Trey Burton is there. He's. He's a great target. I love that pick.

[Jason Moore]

This is somebody. Somebody said something like, now that Brooks has beat me, I can't humble brag anymore. And I want to be very clear about this. I was never humble bragging.

[Andy Holloway]

There was nothing humble about.

[Jason Moore]

I was just bragging. That's just. I just want to be clear about that. So when I say this next thing.

[Mike Wright]

What I like about that is like, yeah, you got. You got beat. Andy's team is 12 and one.

[Jason Moore]

That's right.

[Mike Wright]

That's pretty freaking good.

[Jason Moore]

Now, I want to be clear here, Mike, you. I don't know if you've paid close attention to this. We all are owners of the Scottie Fishbowl team as one group, the fancy footballers.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

We only have. It's a two quarterback league. We've only got one quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

We're down to one.

[Andy Holloway]

We're down.

[Jason Moore]

But get this. We've got one quarterback and we've been the leading scoring team in all of like the games for the last two weeks. I think maybe this week one other team outscored us and you're talking like 30 teams and with one quarterback, somehow our team is getting by. We had the bye week this week, so we didn't even play against anybody. But apparently you can do it with one quarterback if you have Alvin Camara. Just hot tip.

[Mike Wright]

Take that.

[Jason Moore]

Hot tip. But yeah, that was a straight brag as well.

[Andy Holloway]

Alvin Camara also was on the back of Pat Patterson's World Series of.

[Jason Moore]

He was on Patterson's back.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm just saying that's good. ERA you win.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so Trey Burton, rising star. I know it's a little out there, but I'm telling you, it'll pay off if Zerks is out. I'm gonna go Zerg. Zerk.

[Mike Wright]

Zerg from toy store Xerxes.

[Jason Moore]

Starcraft.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, I'm going to go from the same game and a little bit out there too. But Mike Davis, running back for the Seattle Seahawks, he looked really good last night. He passed the eyeball test. But the thing is, is he looked good a couple games prior as well. In the Atlanta game. We have a very small sample with Mike Davis. You might be saying, wait, who is that? Who's Mike Davis? Eddie Lacy. They don't want to use him. Thomas Rawls. They don't want to use him. McKissick is. He's not a between the tackles runner. He's great. He's using the passing game while CJ Pro size is out.

[Mike Wright]

And he's so glad that I'm back.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Smooches, smooches. McKissick. But Mike Davis is for sure the starting running back for the, for the Seattle Seahawks.

[Jason Moore]

And they can use him in the passing game.

[Andy Holloway]

They can use him in the passing game.

[Jason Moore]

Over 100 yards last week total.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. 64 on the ground, 37 through the air. And that was against the number one rushing defense, Philadelphia Eagles. He passed the eyeball test. I think it's late in the season where the Seahawks usually power up. And so this is a guy on waivers. There's not many, many people that you're going to get on waivers that can help you win a championship this late into the season. So Mike Davis is my rising star.

[Jason Moore]

He reminds me of the way he runs right now. He reminds me of the way Rawls ran before he ran out of gas.

[Mike Wright]

Ooh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Pedal to the metal. But you run out of gas quick.

[Mike Wright]

So someone else will be the starting running back for the Seahawks next year?

[Andy Holloway]

Next year, yes.

[Mike Wright]

All right. My raisin Cane. Rising star of the week. He would have been my star last week, so I'm very glad.

[Jason Moore]

But you weren't here.

[Mike Wright]

I wasn't here. So I'm very glad he came through again. Rex Burkett. And I know there's. I know, I know there are many of you rolling your eyes out there. Well, it's. It's Dion Lewis. No, it's Rex Burkitt. No, it's Dion Lewis.

[Andy Holloway]

Guess what?

[Mike Wright]

It's both.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

But is absolutely Rex Goat head. Since week eight, when he really returned from his injury, he's been the running back eight in half point points per game. He is the goal line back. We saw Dion Lewis Bust off a huge run. Unfortunately for Dion Lewis and Jason Moore. Dion Lewis was tackled at about the one and then they said, okay, well, here comes Rex Burkhead, our official goal line running back and gets two carries and came through with pay dirt. In the last two weeks, he's getting 15 total touches.

[Andy Holloway]

I hate Rex Burkitt.

[Mike Wright]

You get 15 total touches on the Patriots and you're the goal line bag. You are in. You are a weekly must start for me.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree. I agree. It's a two man show there and you could start both of them. You're going to be happy.

[Jason Moore]

When you do, I will let you know that I'm going to tweet out a picture of Jason. When he watched the second Rex Burkhead.

[Andy Holloway]

Touchdown happen, I was unaware that there was a photograph.

[Jason Moore]

Well, there's a screen cap.

[Andy Holloway]

Really?

[Jason Moore]

You want the video?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know if it'll make you feel better, Jason, but I was playing a win and in. In my money league and I was facing against Rex Burkhead, so doesn't.

[Andy Holloway]

Doesn't help.

[Mike Wright]

So the nail went into my heart, but you were luckily standing right behind me, so it also went into your heart as well.

[Andy Holloway]

Great. This is great.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to fantasy football. Literally in our league, in our league of record league versus the dynasty league. Brooks has my wide receivers. This is. This is the fun part of multiple leagues. He had my two starting wide receivers, so everything they did was good and bad simultaneously. Did I want to win and get a bye week or did I want to stay undefeated? The second one didn't happen.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, Brooks. Is this breaking news? Yes, sir.

[Jason Moore]

Did they get fired?

[Mike Wright]

Hit the button.

[Andy Holloway]

Breaking News.

[Mike Wright]

Rico Suave, aka Ben McAdoo, has been fired.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think we all saw it coming.

[Jason Moore]

They didn't fire the gm.

[Andy Holloway]

No, not yet. Right now, I mean, they. That could be coming. They could be walking down the hall. But as of right now, I believe it has just been McAdoo.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we'll get into that in just a minute. I do want to remind people. Rex Goat head or because I'm reading it, Rex Burkhead, Trey Burton, Mike Davis. The raising cane's rising stars of the week. Remember, game day tastes better with raising canes. Tailgates full of fresh 24 hour marinated hand battered chicken fingers and fresh brewed sweet tea. Visit raising canes.com to find your nearest location. Slash, live the good life. I'm gonna throw that in there. All right, so Bob McAdoo out the door.

[Mike Wright]

Ben.

[Jason Moore]

Ben McAdoo. What did I say Bob? It doesn't matter anymore.

[Mike Wright]

He looks like a Bob.

[Jason Moore]

Doesn't matter anymore. He's gone.

[Mike Wright]

Ben mcagon.

[Jason Moore]

You think they Ben Mecca.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't.

[Mike Wright]

That's way better.

[Andy Holloway]

Dang it.

[Mike Wright]

It was right there in front of my face.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you're out of practice.

[Mike Wright]

I am.

[Jason Moore]

How was the Teacups?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, do you want a true story about the Teacups?

[Jason Moore]

Give me something from Disneyland before we talk. Pooped in the big boy pants.

[Mike Wright]

All right, so the Disney trip was fantastic. Got to meet a couple Foot Clan members while in Disneyland. What's up, fellas? But I am. I wouldn't say I'm not old old, but I am olderly. I am roller coaster old. I can't go on them anymore. I used to love them. I can't do spinning. I can't do G forces.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

I can't handle it anymore.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm so ashamed and embarrassed.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it sucks. It sucks for me. It's like I lost a part of my life. But so it was. The kids are. You know, they're. Of course, they want to go on the rides. They want to go on all of them. And unfortunately, the. My middle son is right on that threshold. He's not old enough to go on him by himself.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

And his older sister can't take him, so one of us has to bite the bullet. So I went on the Teacups.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the one you chose?

[Mike Wright]

No. Well, we went on a few, but they were asking for the teacups. And I like, let's go. Let's do this. Not only did I go on the teacups, I spun that thing as hard as I possibly could. And I sat there in a trance with my eyes closed. Eyes closed. And it was actually. It actually worked almost the entire time, really, until the ride was done. And I almost fell out of the teacup. I almost fell out.

[Andy Holloway]

There's vomit everywhere.

[Mike Wright]

And then everyone's like, where are we going? Like, dad needs to sit down.

[Andy Holloway]

That's funny.

[Jason Moore]

I. I'm gonna say this. I'm incredibly surprised that your middle son could not go on the Teacups by.

[Mike Wright]

Himself, because he's not seven.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

That's the rules.

[Jason Moore]

The rules. Teacups, seven and up. All right.

[Andy Holloway]

They check IDs.

[Mike Wright]

Well, because they ask kids, how old are you? The kid's not gonna lie.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I hate that. I go to, like, the buffet, and I'm like, yeah, he's three. No, Daddy, he's four. Shut your mouth. Three.

[Jason Moore]

Three.

[Mike Wright]

Another.

[Andy Holloway]

What Are you teaching? Your kids pooped in his big boy pants.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Cause it's like, how old are you? I'm. I'm six and three quarters.

[Jason Moore]

We may or may not have had a. When we did our live show here in Phoenix, the foot clan showed up, and we had a dad bring his kid, and. And this was. There wasn't, like, drinking going on, but it's a bar, so they only allow kids in of certain ages. And I remember, like, you know, this kid asked the fantasy question. He loved the show. He came up afterwards, and he goes. And I'm like, oh, how old are you? And his dad. His dad goes, 14, because he could get in there. All right, Tom Brady, for all of his consistency, decided, hey, let's lay an egg in Buffalo. 21 for 30. Rex Burkhead didn't help out because he ran him in 258. 258. No touchdowns. Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

Tom Brady was. Was fine. I mean, if you look at the game, he started a little slow, but the offense got moving.

[Jason Moore]

He was fine to see, but absolutely.

[Andy Holloway]

Laid a fantasy egg because the touchdowns were rushed in. If you missed him screaming at the.

[Mike Wright]

Offensive coordinator, oh, man, he gave McDaniels the business.

[Andy Holloway]

Not happy.

[Jason Moore]

Let me. I don't know if I should get into this or not. What do you think? Thumbs up or thumbs down? Give me, give me.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know. I have no idea.

[Jason Moore]

What do you think? Give me a ruler. Let's do it. Okay.

[Mike Wright]

So don't do it.

[Jason Moore]

Tom Brady freaked out.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Freaked out on the sideline. We've had situations now. Odell Beckham Jr. Brought this up this morning. He thought there was a double standard there because he's freaked out on the sidelines before and gets, you know, destroyed in the media.

[Mike Wright]

Des Bryant has freaked out on the side and got destroyed.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, Anquan bold.

[Jason Moore]

This is why I said this is a trepidation. I don't know if I want to get into it. And I think that you have. I just think he should be held to the same standard, so. Absolutely. You know, he should be. That being said, he's a quarterback and a quarterback specifically, regardless of any of the other nuances. Nuances to the situation generally. I mean, they're the ones dealing with the offensive coordinator in that way, but he should be held to the same standard.

[Mike Wright]

Absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

And he's out.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

And so Brady, something. We were saying this from that point on, it kind of seemed like he was a little on tilt. And look, they got it done. They're the Patriots. They Won the game, but it didn't help your fantasy team. And then you had Gronkowski at the end of the game not be able to control himself.

[Mike Wright]

He's. Yeah, Gronk better be suspended.

[Jason Moore]

You think he'll be suspended?

[Mike Wright]

He. He concussed him. I mean, that was. It was a cheap shot. Now you want to talk about double standard? Imagine someone had taken that cheap shot at Tom Brady. That player would have been kicked out and suspended the next week. Gronkowski better be suspended next week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I guess we'll see what happens. Tyrod Taylor, we talked about the injury, but he was not good. We. Fortunately, we were off of him this week because it was tempting in the beginning of the week to say, hey, look, opportunity, floor baseline. It didn't feel right the way New England's been playing. Nobody's scoring any points. The opportunity for upside was not there. They only gave up three points to Buffalo in this game. And then Taylor had the injury to boot. Matt Ryan let people down against Minnesota at home.

[Mike Wright]

Very disappointing.

[Jason Moore]

Great opportunity for them to really be in the playoff line. Now they're out of the playoff picture. As of Trevor Simeon, man, he was horrific.

[Andy Holloway]

He was so bad. Every time I looked up, he was throwing the ball to like with his eyes closed.

[Mike Wright]

There was a point, I think it was even in the third quarter where neither Emmanuel Sanders or Demarys Thomas had caught a pass.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that is not good. And then you move into running backs. My biggest disappointment of the week is Jordan Howard.

[Andy Holloway]

Goodness gracious.

[Jason Moore]

Everything was lined up.

[Andy Holloway]

I was really, really. If, you know, you always have percentages kind of of how much you believe in a picks, you know, you believe strongly that a guy's going to perform well or you think maybe he could. I firmly was in the camp of Jordan Howard was one of the safest plays this last week at home against San Francisco, the team that wants to run the ball and give him the ball so much. And Jordan Howard ended the game with only 13 carries. I feel like that's just a gigantic mistake.

[Jason Moore]

I have to ask.

[Andy Holloway]

They lost the game.

[Jason Moore]

I know we have a lot of guys to talk about, but Jordan Howard at Cincinnati, at Detroit, then Cleveland. Where's your confidence level for Howard? Is it in the 2 range? Do you. I'd rather roll out Kareem Hunt at home for three games in a row against than I would Jordan Howard. Right.

[Andy Holloway]

They're near the same, but I'm not.

[Jason Moore]

The balance isn't there in that offense. It's hurting Jordan Howard.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's.

[Andy Holloway]

I still Believe in Jordan Howard. Yeah, I do too.

[Mike Wright]

I believe in the play.

[Andy Holloway]

Howard are saying that, you know, you, you should. I would not say you should bench them. Including next week in Cincinnati. I actually think Cincinnati right now, lately, their run defense is overrated.

[Jason Moore]

Here's the problem with Howard. Last four games, 15 carries, 15 carries, seven carries, 13 carries, one big game, three duds. So he's. He's 25% on producing on expectations in those games. Now, the matchups, they were pretty good. I mean, Green Bay at home stunk. San Francisco at home stunk. Now he got beat by Philadelphia. Okay, you're in Philadelphia. I just think that. I just don't know. I don't know what to say. Yeah, any week he could have a big week. But I'd rather play Alex Collins.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Then Jordan Collins on fire.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Disappointing weeks from Crowell, Duke Johnson wasn't that good. Jacquiz Rogers didn't have that opportunity to talk about.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think he absolutely pooped people's teams. Because if you didn't, if you weren't up to the date, up to the, you know, that's why you gotta be on Twitter. Yeah. Well, you should for sure. You should be on Twitter. You should be, you know, on the. About an hour before game. If you have the ability, you should be looking at those things. Because news came out that it was going to be Peyton Barber getting the bulk of the work. If you looked at our rankings late, right before game time, you would have seen the switch in our rankings where Jaquez Rogers fell and Peyton Barber went up prior to game. But if you didn't notice that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Not everybody has that opportunity. Yeah. Disappointing.

[Andy Holloway]

Just smoked you.

[Jason Moore]

Danny Woodhead, my second most disappointing player of the week. I expected bigger things from Woodhead. This game turned into a blowout. I think that helped Alex Collins quite a bit. But Woodhead was three carries, two receptions. I'm super disappointed. He's got Pittsburgh, Cleveland on the road. Maybe those games, the game script turns a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

Pittsburgh sounds like a Danny Woodhead game because you expect Pittsburgh to be able to score in Pittsburgh.

[Jason Moore]

I just don't know what a Danny Woodhead game is yet. We cannot forget. This is very important. We cannot forget that Danny Woodhead has not been a fantasy relevant player in Baltimore yet. That's the fact. He hasn't done it yet. So I don't want to imbue too much, even though I thought he was going to be a guy that would win people leagues. Lacy, irrelevant. Rawls, irrelevant. Let's talk wide receivers. Julio Jones, oh, man. Could you just share some of last week's points with this week?

[Andy Holloway]

Just spread it out, just split them.

[Mike Wright]

How does this happen? How does this happen to players like Julio and Amari Cooper? You come off a game where the team realizes, okay, let's funnel all targets to the best wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

Look, when you're eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and all the jellies in one bite, that's not that good of a sandwich.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's the truth. Watching this game intently because I had Matt Ryan going in a very important matchup for me. The Minnesota Vikings had the ball, the whole stinking. Their defense is really good, but their offense is what really helped their defense out. Matt Ryan, we've said this before, he's not a come from behind type of quarterback. He's not a when we're down and we're in clear passing situations, I'm going to rack up fantasy points type of guy. And this game was completely front to back, all three phases controlled by Minnesota. That's why I give the Minnesota Vikings the credit for Julio Jones's poor game as opposed to, you know, the week prior. Right. It's not just Xavier Rhodes. That's why I'm bringing up the Minnesota offense the week prior. When you're playing a team like Detroit and Matthew Stafford, who is good in those situations, he's used to having to throw from behind and be that gunslinger and he's going to air it out and, you know, make that work. That's not Matt Ryan's game.

[Jason Moore]

And we also mentioned Minnesota gives up the least amount of explosive plays, which are runs of more than 11 yards, passes of more than 15 yards in the league, half as many as Kansas City has given up this year. And Julio Jones made a lot of his fantasy production on those last week. I'm going to. I'm going to read out some poopers. I want you to give me the most relevant, important, pooped in their big boy pants, wide receiver and tell me what that means for fantasy owners before we move on. Evans, Mike Evans. Against Green Bay, everything was lined up. I'll be the first to admit I had him at number two on my rankings this week. I expected big things with Winston back. You got that with Bray. You didn't give it with Evans. Brandon Cooks, Stefan Diggs, Corey Coleman, Devonte Parker, the two running the two whiteouts in Denver, desean Jackson, Corey Davis.

[Andy Holloway]

The lead stories here are the combo of Mike Evans and Brandon Cooks. Those were guys that were, you know, consensus top Five wide receivers on the week, matchups looked perfect. Everything lined up, quarterbacks healthy and back, and they both absolutely stunk. You only had six targets for Mike Evans. That's not his game. That's. I mean, he was far and away my biggest disappointment this week. If I look at every position, every player Mike Evans had, you know, when he started this season, you question we went into this offseason kind of saying, look, Mike Evans, he's not that tier one player. Don't draft him that way.

[Jason Moore]

We got destroyed for that, by the way.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And then. And it looked bad in week one when he comes out and it has seven receptions and, you know, 93 yards and a touchdown follows that up the next week with another seven receptions. But since those first few weeks, I mean, he has not been a volume target player. It's hard to know because, you know, over the last five weeks, four of it was Ryan Fitzpatrick. I hope Jameis Winston figures that out going forward. You've got Detroit a much better matchup, I think. Well, I don't know, much better than Green Bay, but at least a good matchup and maybe they can figure that out. But he was my biggest disappointment.

[Mike Wright]

You know, there was the play where Evans went up and had a. Almost a sensational catch. I mean, he caught the ball and it looks to me like Tampa Bay should have challenged. Like it looked like it was a spot.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it was out of bounds. It. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Well, regardless, I thought maybe his knee hit in, but he also injured his, his hand or his arm on that play. I don't know if that factored into the rest of the game being disappointing.

[Jason Moore]

Now, that being said, you're not going to sit Evans, but there are players that I just named that you will question starting at all rest of season, like Diggs, Parker, Coleman, demarius, Thomas and Sanders. How many of those players can you start rest of season? You've got your playoffs on the line.

[Andy Holloway]

If I had to pick one of that group, I'm going to start Stefan Diggs.

[Jason Moore]

That's the only one that I would, I would agree with.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, he's. He's usually better at home. This was a road game, but Case Keenums looked good. The Minnesota offense I believe in, whereas Corey Coleman with Josh Gordon, I don't know about devonte Parker has kind of disappeared. So of that list, I'm okay rolling with Diggs. The others, they need to, they need to warm my bench, warm it up.

[Jason Moore]

All right, look, Jared Cook disappointed the heck out of me this week. Every opportunity to be involved. Got five targets, only caught one of them. That's not good. But Jared Cook does what Jared Cook does, which is when you expect something from him, he gives you nothing. Asj it continues to be a down turn for his season. Vernon Davis.

[Mike Wright]

What. What happened?

[Jason Moore]

And look, other people are catching the ball, too.

[Mike Wright]

What happened?

[Jason Moore]

Not good. Jack Doyle. The ping pong continues back down to 3 for 16. And then Charles Clay.

[Andy Holloway]

Charles Clay.

[Jason Moore]

Charles Clay is the Cameron Brait of that roster. When Winston's there, Brait's good. When Taylor's there, Clay's good. Taylor went off the field.

[Mike Wright]

Yep. I think that's a fair point. I don't know if you can trust Charles Clay moving forward the rest of the season just because I'm anticipating the Bills making a move to Peterman.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so again, this is why Trey Burton, to me, I just read you a bunch of names. You might not have very much confidence. I have confidence in Carson Wentz. I have confidence in the. Utilizing that offense. And number one offense, I'd rather play those guys than I would, you know, lean on maybe Brissette to find Doyle again or Garoppolo to find George Kittle again or something like that.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I still, I still have confidence in Jack Toyo.

[Jason Moore]

All right, that is it for today's episode. We'll be back with the waivers on tomorrow's show. Have a wonderful Monday night. Hope things work out for you. If you got Antonio Brown, I'm sure you're on pins and needles.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Hopefully you have a backup plan. Thanks for tuning in, supporting the podcast, and as always, a reminder, check out our studio sponsor draft by going to draft.comballers and playing with us this weekend. Take care.

[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

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