Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 2 Matchups, In-or-Out, Red Regrets

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary
Episode: Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 2 Matchups, In-or-Out, Red Regrets
Release Date: September 15, 2017
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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1. Review of Last Night's Games

The episode kicks off with the hosts dissecting the performances from the previous NFL games. A significant focus is placed on quarterbacks DeSean Watson of the Bengals and Andy Dalton of the Texans.

• DeSean Watson’s Performance:
  Mike Wright criticizes Watson's quarterback play, highlighting a notably poor game save led by a single impressive play. Wright remarks, “I don’t know if I’ve seen a worse quarterback performance than DeSean Watson's for the win.” (02:00)

• Andy Dalton’s Struggles:
  Dalton’s performance is equally scrutinized. Andy Holloway recalls Dalton’s past poor outings, comparing them to Watson’s current form. Jason Moore chimes in, “If you remember a couple years back, him versus the Browns, and now you’ve seen worse.”

• AJ Green’s Decline:
  The trio discusses AJ Green’s underwhelming start to the season, with Wright noting, “It was just plain bad.” They reference a historic NFL statistic: “No team since 1939 has started off the first two games at home and had zero touchdowns.” (02:27)

2. Cincinnati and Running Backs Outlook

The conversation shifts to the Cincinnati Bengals, focusing on running back Joe Mixon and the broader running back situation.

• Joe Mixon’s Role:
  Mike Wright expresses disappointment in Mixon’s lack of standout plays despite having the most carries: “He has yet to flash on a single play this year, which is disappointing to me.” (04:04)

• Lamar Miller vs. Deontay Foreman:
  The hosts debate the future of running back Lamar Miller versus Deontay Foreman. Wright suggests, “Deontay Foreman looked more explosive to the outside by far,” while Jason Moore believes Miller remains the primary back unless injuries dictate otherwise. (06:02)

3. In-Or-Out Segment

A critical segment where the hosts evaluate player availability for the upcoming week, focusing primarily on Odell Beckham Jr. and his impact on fantasy lineups.

• Odell Beckham Jr. Injury Concerns:
  Beckham’s injury status is a hot topic. Mike Wright discusses the confusion surrounding Beckham's reported 6-8 week injury, pointing out that the injury occurred 25 days prior: “This injury took place 25 days ago.” (15:44)

• Fantasy Implications:
  Jason Moore advises fantasy managers to consider alternatives like Sean Shepard or Eric Ebron if Beckham remains unavailable: “If you’re the Odell Beckham owner, you either have to plug in somebody now and just accept that you’re not going to have Odell or you need to pick up someone from that game.” (17:18)

4. News and Notes

The hosts provide updates on various NFL players and teams, offering insights that affect fantasy football decisions.

• Sam Bradford’s Injury:
  Sam Bradford’s limited practice is discussed, raising concerns about his knee: “I am a little bit concerned. There is some opinion out there... look, that’s a multiple ACL knee.” (14:39)

• Jay Ajayi’s Durability:
  Concerns about Jay Ajayi’s ability to handle a 16-game season with his knee issues are voiced: “Now he is going to place 16 straight weeks of football. I mean, this is what.” (18:23)

5. Matchup Previews and Fantasy Forecast

A comprehensive analysis of Week 2 matchups, with each host providing recommendations on which players to start or sit based on their upcoming opponents.

• Jets vs. Raiders:

  • Mike Wright: Advises benching Bilal Powell in favor of Adrian Peterson, citing the Raiders’ strong defense: “I am benching Bilal Powell for Adrian Peterson this week.” (24:43)
  • Andy Holloway: Suggests targeting Jermaine Curts for the Jets’ receivers: “If you’re talking wide receivers, I guess I’m playing Jermaine Curts.” (26:10)

• Dolphins vs. Chargers:

  • Keenan Allen and Travis Benjamin: Discussed as key offensive players for the Chargers, with an emphasis on Travis Benjamin’s speed adding a new dynamic: “He’s really fast. And then you saw it and it brings a whole new dynamic to this offense.” (28:15)
  • Hunter Henry vs. Anthony Gates: The tight end matchup is evaluated, with Gates remaining a reliable option: “Antonio Gates is Antonio Gates. They’re not going to just... He is still on the team.” (29:37)

• Cowboys vs. Broncos:

  • Cody Jefferson and Dez Bryant: Mike Wright and Andy Holloway debate the viability of starting Dez Bryant against the Broncos, with mixed opinions on Bryant’s potential due to defensive matchups: “I have a pretty strong disagreement on Dez Bryant this week.” (34:34)
  • Running Backs Zeke Elliott vs. Denver’s Backfield: Jason Moore places Zeke Elliott as his top running back for the week: “Right now I have Zeke as my number one running back of the week.” (34:11)

• Redskins vs. Rams:

  • Terrell Pryor vs. Rob Kelly: Mike Wright recommends starting Terrell Pryor over Rob Kelly, given the Rams’ defense: “I would start Terrell Pryor.” (36:58)
  • Aaron Donald & Jared Goff: Concerns about the Rams' defense might limit Jared Goff’s fantasy value: “I worry about the Redskins’ options again. I’m not in love with the Rams defense.” (36:28)

• 49ers vs. Seahawks:

  • Carlos Hyde and Pierre Garcon: Andy Holloway emphasizes the consistent value from Hyde and Garcon despite the Seahawks’ strong defense: “Carlos Hyde and Pierre Garcon are weekly starters.” (41:04)
  • David Johnson and Russell Wilson: Discussions on the 49ers’ running game and Wilson’s performance culminate in cautious optimism: “There you go. There is no food to eat from time to time.” (50:05)
  • Devonte Adams vs. Randall Cobb: Jason Moore opts for Adams over Cobb for his potential touchdown opportunities: “I’m going Devonte Adams because of the scoring opportunities here.” (44:41)

6. Expert Draft Segment

In a playful yet insightful segment, the hosts engage in an expert draft to highlight strategic decision-making in fantasy football. They draft unfamiliar players based on Week 2 matchups, illustrating the challenges of selecting players without the advantage of top-tier options.

• Player Selections:
  • Andy Holloway: Picks Mike Gillislee and Tevin Coleman, aiming for high touchdown upside: “I believe I’m taking Mike Gillislee... Tevin Coleman is my guy.” (53:08-54:29)
  • Mike Wright: Chooses DeMarco Murray, Christian McCaffrey, and Carson Palmer, focusing on matchup advantages: “I am going to pair DeMarco Murray with Christian McCaffrey.” (53:08-55:23)
  • Jason Moore: Selects Jonathan Stewart, Big Ben (Tom Brady), Mark Ingram, Randall Cobb, and James White, balancing safe picks with potential breakout players: “He’s a seasoned, seasoned team. I got Big Ben... and Randall Cobb.” (55:19-56:43)

The draft underscores the importance of evaluating player matchups and the potential for over-the-board selections to impact weekly fantasy outcomes.

7. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

The hosts wrap up the episode by emphasizing the importance of strategic decision-making throughout the fantasy season. They encourage listeners to stay engaged with their league dynamics, make informed waiver wire moves, and continuously adapt to player performances and injuries.

• Quote from Jason Moore:
  “So thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers.” (57:57)

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Mike Wright on DeSean Watson: “I don’t know if I’ve seen a worse quarterback performance than DeSean Watson's for the win.” (02:00)
• Mike Wright on AJ Green: “It was just plain bad.” (02:27)
• Jason Moore on Lamar Miller: “I think Miller remains the primary back unless injuries dictate otherwise.” (06:02)
• Mike Wright on Odell Beckham Jr.: “This injury took place 25 days ago.” (15:44)
• Jason Moore on Starting Terrell Pryor: “I would start Terrell Pryor because of how you have to target him against the Rams’ defense.” (36:58)
• Andy Holloway on Matchups: “Carlos Hyde and Pierre Garcon are weekly starters.” (41:04)

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This detailed summary captures the essence of the Fantasy Footballers' Week 2 episode, highlighting key discussions, player evaluations, and strategic insights essential for fantasy football enthusiasts seeking to optimize their lineups.

Transcript

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, coming to you from the Play Draft studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Mike Wright]

Ah, welcome in. Ah.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that. Is that the sound you were making watching the Houston Texans and the Bengals play last night? It was my eyes, you know, my eyeballs.

[Mike Wright]

I realized a lot of different things last night while I was trying to watch this game. By the way, the name of our DFS podcast is the Fantasy Footballers DFS podcast. That's what you search for on itunes if you want to find it.

[Jason Moore]

That name sounds awesome.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's really, really nice. So I'm watching this game.

[Andy Holloway]

A lot of effort went into the.

[Mike Wright]

Name, and I guess I just want to muse on this for a second. Like, you know, ratings were down a little bit last year for the NFL, and I realized that if I were watching Tom Brady collapse on Thursday Night Football, it would have been more entertaining.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, that's just. There's a level of intrigue.

[Mike Wright]

Well, him or years ago, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning, if. If those big iconic. I mean, there's Carson Wentz is not iconic yet Andy Dalton is not iconic. And so you watch this game, and I don't know if I've seen a worse quarterback performance than DeSean Watson's for the win. He had one play that was incredible and it won them the game.

[Andy Holloway]

I was gonna say you've seen worse quarterback performances on Thursday by Andy Dalton. If you remember a couple years back, him versus the Browns, and now you.

[Mike Wright]

Have people talking about A.J. mcCarron.

[Andy Holloway]

Get out of here.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, people freaking out on Twitter asking me about dropping ifr, dropping Green or trading Green or just not starting Green.

[Jason Moore]

Dropping mix and dropping everyone. Everyone's like, should I drop all of my players and trade AJ Green?

[Mike Wright]

And it was bad. I mean, it was just plain bad. Here's how bad. If you didn't hear this stat, which you probably already have, no team since 1939 has started off the first two games at home and had zero touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

That's pretty.

[Mike Wright]

The 1939 Eagles. Remember them?

[Jason Moore]

Nah.

[Mike Wright]

No, me neither.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah, they were. They were a bad team.

[Mike Wright]

They had a red haired quarterback named Kurt Shoebuckle.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, tell me that's the truth.

[Mike Wright]

I just. I just made that up.

[Jason Moore]

Kurt Schubuckle.

[Mike Wright]

But I mean, it's legendary. Legendary failure by Shoe Buckle Andy. And he did have a touchdown pass.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

That. That called back and didn't turn the ball over. Like, it wasn't five turnovers. It was no turnovers. Got you 11.

[Jason Moore]

Fantasy improvement through a great touchdown pass to Tyler Ifert who went out of bounds like an idiot and then came back in.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, wow. The visceral.

[Jason Moore]

I was like an idiot. Yeah. I mean, he's running and it's like, dude, stop before you go out of bounds or you can't catch the ball anymore. No.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So we basically just jumped right into the quick question, which was to reflect on this Thursday night game. I mean, at the end of the day, Joe Mixon had the most carries on Cincinnati. He has yet to flash on a single play this year, which is disappointing to me. Like, you can have a bad performance or low snap counts, but you'd expect a flash. I still think he's the back to own there and I still think it will come around. It's just we have a new Jeff Fisher in town and that is Marvin Lewis.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I am so sick of Marvin Lewis.

[Andy Holloway]

The truth is the back to own.

[Jason Moore]

The back to own in the long term, I think it will be. But it will be because of injury, not because of decision to give one guy the ball. I mean, it's.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, it will get better. This is. Here's what you got a really. It will. No, it will get better. You have a terrible offensive line right now.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

You have a quarterback playing very poorly that has shown he can play in the past.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

And you had two very difficult matchups with Baltimore and Houston, even though they're both at home. Those are two of the best defenses in football. Probably two of the top five, two.

[Jason Moore]

Of the top ten.

[Andy Holloway]

It's very possible. And I can't think of a player's name, but this has happened before where someone comes out and they just stink and it's the beginning of the season. So it leaves a mark on you. It leaves a mark on your soul when you see a player so bad to start the year, but then as the year progresses, you're like, oh, well, they're okay. And it Turns out that they were playing their early matchups were against the best defenses in the NFL.

[Jason Moore]

So next week I believe Dalton goes and plays Green Bay.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, it's not good, Lambo.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, and that's that defense. I mean last year would have been great to play against, but what they.

[Andy Holloway]

Showed in week one, week one, let's see, week two.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, but they could be a good defense is my point.

[Mike Wright]

I tweeted last night, Lamar Miller and Deontay Foreman rotating drives on a team that can't get a first down with the quarterback scared of his shadow. That was the best summary that I had for what I was seeing last night. The, the equation for Deshaun Watson was take the snap, stare at DeAndre Hopkins, freak out and then try not to get sacked.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, and a lot of throwing to DeAndre Hopkins.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there was what, 13 targets.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean he, he, he, he went Brian Hoyer on that team. I mean he's targeting the number one guy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but what's up with Hopkins like having trouble double catching every ball and dropping so many over the first two weeks?

[Andy Holloway]

His hands got tired from so many targets.

[Mike Wright]

Let's, let's make this practical for our listeners right now. Practical takeaways from this game. So give me your, give me your players that you're cutting right now. What's your worry level of. I think Lamar Miller is the highest, maybe the most relevant question to ask in this game. Because of check down passes. He still ended up with 12 fantasy points. But Deontay Foreman looked great. He looked more explosive to the outside by far. I don't think Lamar Miller looked bad. Like I wouldn't say, oh man, Lamar Miller, you stink. It was just that Deontay Foreman impressed me.

[Jason Moore]

Well, and that would be the issue, right, because Lamar Miller looked exactly how he has looked since he's been a Houston Texan, which he's been a guy that's relied on volume on getting the rock enough to where he always puts up about 12, 13 fantasy points, which is, which is fine. But he does that not because of efficiency but because of volume. If Deontay Foreman comes in and starts having the workload with him, then you're going to have a real problem for Lamar Miller's fantasy value. I think because he scored 12 plus fantasy points. I'm a Lamar Miller owner. He's one of those package trade guys for a better running back option right now. And Deonta Foreman I think is someone that needs to be probably picked up.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he needs to be picked up. But in he was still 12 for 40. I mean, he wasn't. I know that he flashed a little bit, but Lamar Miller had that flash run as well where he ran up the middle, hit the spin button, and got an extra seven yards.

[Mike Wright]

Nothing wrong with 12 for 40. He had a couple of those.

[Andy Holloway]

12 for 40 is not very good.

[Jason Moore]

Well, but 3.3 had a. So 3.3. But he had so many 3.3.

[Mike Wright]

12 for 40 is not 3.3.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, it would be about three point.

[Andy Holloway]

It is.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, it is math. All right. Look, they jammed it up the middle over and over and over again.

[Jason Moore]

I was gonna say there was like four or five plays where, you know, it was where he got the rock in those situations where it was like, you know, remember where there was cover zero and they're selling out to stop the run and they. He'd get negative two on those plays. But he did look. He did look explosive, fast, good. I mean, I've always been a deontiforman fan.

[Andy Holloway]

My point was I just. It's. Miller is still the running back to own. Foreman should be picked up. I believe Miller will hold on to the. The. The majority of the work. And I mean, you saw the game script for this team. They want to run and they want to run a lot.

[Jason Moore]

Was.

[Andy Holloway]

Was it 18 carries from Lamar Miller? Do I have that right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they want to put Watson in a position to make the least mistakes and.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And so both of these guys could see, you know, ten plus carries a game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Tyler Ifert. Are you sticking with Tyler Ifert? Would you rather have Charles Clay or Tyler Ifert? Man, I know my opinion. I want to get yours. I would stick with him. That's my opinion.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would stick with him too.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he looked all right. He got injured again.

[Mike Wright]

It doesn't really get much worse than zero touchdowns in two games. And you still have had. I mean, A.J. green. He still gets the ball thrown to him regardless of 2, 3 defenders on him. You know, John Ross never saw the field again after his fumble.

[Andy Holloway]

Classic. Classic Marvin Lewis.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So. All right. I don't want to linger there. We have Matt, we have the other matchup previews today on the show. We have in or out. We have another daily dose segment where we're going to take each other on in a experts draft, live draft here on the show.

[Andy Holloway]

Taking it up a notch.

[Mike Wright]

Five players per team. And then one of you guys will eat something terrible next week because it won't be me.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, also to follow up on that, I ate. Jason picked a spam Spam and eggs. Spam eggs and rice for me. And I was very not excited to indulge in this, but once I started eating, I was very excited and I now like spam.

[Mike Wright]

This is. This is my fault. I couldn't join you guys for lunch to actually pick something bad. I saw you post. What are you talking. I saw you post those pictures. Every reply to those pictures was delicious. That is exactly what the replies were.

[Andy Holloway]

If I had said, andy, I'm ordering you spam and eggs for lunch, what would your reaction be?

[Mike Wright]

I would be disappointed, but I'd be happy to eat the eggs. You should have had just spam. That's the way you would have done it properly.

[Jason Moore]

Well, Jason, I don't know what.

[Andy Holloway]

That would have been great because I like spam.

[Mike Wright]

Jason also got watered. You can see that on Twitter for his moncrief bet. All right, you can find us on TwitterFFballers if you want to see that. Follow along with any of the new articles that go up on the website. Look, this show, if you're joining us for the first time, maybe you're a new listener for this year. You want to understand what this show is all about. We're here to be accurate. We're here to be entertaining, and we're here to make your league absolutely fun all year long. We want. We kind of take a holistic approach. Look, we can give you the stat lines, and we do, and we can be accurate with our predictions, but we're not going to be perfect. But what you need to do is you're going to need to make decisions in your league based on your league mates, your formats, and we want to equip you to make those decisions the best way you can. We prepare you for your draft, but Jason always says, you know, you don't win your league at the draft, you have to be able to make waiver wire moves. You have to be able to discern a good and a bad trade and make those moves through the year, because things like David Johnson happen right to everyone. Well, just to me, though, in our league.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you are the fantasy reaper. I mean, that. That's only fair.

[Mike Wright]

Somebody was giving me the fantasy reaper for Andy Dalton last night. Did I. Did I reap Andy Dalton? Am I the red reaper?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, like it?

[Mike Wright]

I think Andy Dalton is the red reaper on all fantasy value for that team.

[Andy Holloway]

That's.

[Mike Wright]

That's basically what happened.

[Andy Holloway]

So, hey, look, harvest is bountiful this year.

[Mike Wright]

Pretty much nothing.

[Andy Holloway]

You get nothing.

[Mike Wright]

There is no food to eat from time to time. We like to read a review from itunes on the show. We appreciate everybody that's left us itunes, reviews that subscribes, that listens to the show, supports this independent podcast and we're going to do it right now.

[Jason Moore]

Review a source Rex, this one comes in from Brino23. If you ain't first, you're last. Five stars. I have subscribed to the Fantasy Footballers for the past two years and as much as I would love to share their vast fantasy football knowledge, tips and humor with the rest of my friends and league, I simply cannot. It goes against my core fantasy football value of if you ain't first, you're last. And I personally enjoy winning. So while my league continues to use generic second rate fantasy advice and analysis, I will continue using my not so secret weapon of mass destruction.

[Mike Wright]

Ooh.

[Jason Moore]

Thanks to you guys from the Fantasy footballers. I love ya, Brino23. You know what, Brino?

[Andy Holloway]

We love you.

[Jason Moore]

We love ya too.

[Mike Wright]

When you said Brino, I immediately said, oh, that sounds like rhino. Let's make the sound a rhinoceros makes. And then I realized I don't know what sound a rhinoceros makes.

[Andy Holloway]

Does anybody thinking about it?

[Jason Moore]

Is anybody.

[Mike Wright]

Brooks? Brooks?

[Jason Moore]

I'm sure it's something like.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it probably is. I mean, it's like a. It's like a zebra. I mean, like there's just these weird noises these, these animals make.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my goodness. What was that again, Jason?

[Andy Holloway]

That's. That's a happy rhinoceros. Oh, that was.

[Jason Moore]

He was in heat. He. He is. All right, let's get into that.

[Mike Wright]

It's Friday.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

Foot clan.

[Mike Wright]

All right, well, we're gonna make it through.

[Jason Moore]

We do.

[Mike Wright]

We are gonna talk matchups, but first we're gonna give away a gift card. Every Friday, all of our [e-mail] are entered into a contest and we give away a $40 gift card to shopballers.com Today's winner is Skip Clifford. Yeah, Skip Clifford has the coolest name in town and he's won a $40 gift card to shopballers.com Congratulations, Skip Congreg. You are the winner.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, I'm just imagining a reenactment of the movie Heat. But it's only Rhinoceros.

[Mike Wright]

It's better to. You're the only one imagining that first of all, but it's better to imagine you are now. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Rhinos robbing a bank.

[Mike Wright]

Was Val Kilmer in that movie?

[Jason Moore]

He was, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Skinny Val Kilmer, which now has to be said Sammy Biscuits. Sam Bradford remained limited at Thursday's practice. The Vikings said that they are limiting him due to a knee injury. The Vikings, according to Rotoworld, are just limiting his reps. I am a little bit concerned. There is some opinion out there. Pro Football Talk talked about the fact that there's some concern about, look, that's a multiple ACL knee.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. If he's having sorenesses, it's certainly not good. I mean, if you don't limit a quarterback his age as reps, usually when there's absolutely nothing wrong, you just go, hey, why don't you just not practice today? And my worry is more about, okay, the offensive line looked good. That was why I believed in Sam Bradford. But how much of that was actually just the New Orleans pass rush? And now they're going to Pittsburgh, they can get after the quarterback a little bit better. We're going to learn. This is the game that I want to see more than any game for learning this week is what is true about Minnesota's offense.

[Mike Wright]

All right, what do you make of this Odell Beckham Jr. News? A lot of people heard this. He said he was dealing with a six to eight week injury and he was kind of trying to let people know what he was recovering from. I saw Twitter filled with owners of Odell Beckham Jr. Just all of a sudden saying, now he's out six to eight weeks. They were confused. They didn't understand what had happened. This injury took place 25 days ago.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So you know what I would do if I were Odell Beckham and, you know, I hit everyone saw the injury. It looked horrifying. I would tell people I'm dealing with an injury that probably takes two to three months to recover from. And then when I come back, week two people are like, holy crap, Superman is incredible.

[Jason Moore]

He did clarify the comments, said that some people could go back in four, some people it'll take 12.

[Mike Wright]

You know, we start to sound like a Mortensen injury.

[Jason Moore]

We just need to monitor two to 30 weeks. We just need to monitor the practice. The problem this week, just like last week, Odell Beckham is on Monday night. That is no bueno. That means you need to. If you're the Odell Beckham owner, you either have to plug in somebody now and just accept that you're not going to have Odell or you need to pick up someone from that game. Sterling shepherd is on a lot of waivers. I'm sure Brandon Marshall is going to be on a lot of waivers. Now this coming week Evan Ingram. Eric Ebron is also an option that'll that you could find on waivers. Who's in the Monday night game on the other side of the ball. So you have options, but make sure you're planning ahead, prepared for it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I was talking to somebody yesterday that I basically said if you. If you don't think you're going to be around Monday night ready to make a quick move, you're going to need to just lock somebody else in.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree.

[Mike Wright]

And that he had desean Jackson. So he was in that position of do I go to Sean Jackson or do I wait and try to get Shepard in there?

[Jason Moore]

I'd go to Sean Jackson.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. That's kind of what I told him because he wasn't sure how nimble he could be on a Monday night, which I understand. People can't always be sitting there waiting to make a roster switch.

[Andy Holloway]

What's wrong with you if you should.

[Mike Wright]

Be the reality jobs and families.

[Jason Moore]

The reality is if we knew for sure that Odell was back for sure, for sure. Of course you would play him. But there's still the chance in that situation that he's used more as a decoy and he's not 100%. So I would play to Sean Jackson if you're in one of those issues.

[Mike Wright]

Colts have named Jacoby Brissette their starting quarterback for week number two. This is not bad news for the receivers in Indianapolis.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Mike Wright]

Or necessarily good news, but not bad news.

[Jason Moore]

This is literally only bad news for Scott Tolstein. This is the only person on earth slightly bad news for the Arizona Cardinals as well.

[Mike Wright]

Jordan Howard was limited in Thursday's practice to say he's dealing with a shoulder injury. No indication that it's serious. Pay attention to that through the weekend. But right now we have no reason to be concerned about him starting that game. Something to be aware of. Adam Gaze. Yes, said Jay Ajayi is dealing with knee soreness and he's been doing it for a while, but that is not a big issue. We know that the old report of JJ is, look, his knee is bone on bone. He does not have. I don't think he has cartilage. Yeah, he has no cartilage. So this was something where a top.

[Jason Moore]

Pick coming into the draft. He fell to the fifth round because of that. So that's why you're concerned.

[Andy Holloway]

And now he is going to place 16 straight weeks of football. I mean, this is what. Why I had the concern for Jay Ajayi when the hurricane moved the game. He's his knees man can he really handle the workload that they want to give him?

[Jason Moore]

Are you changing anything in your fantasy approach with Ajay?

[Mike Wright]

Not yet.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I don't think I would because I would risk it and say let's. I'm going to hope that he can hold out but if, yeah, I'm right.

[Jason Moore]

There with Adam Gaines. I think I'm with Adam Gaze. We're just going to say, well, we'll go till the knee.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. Go to gives out. But you just, you need to be ready. If you have two stud running backs, like two starters, basically a Jay and someone else, you make sure you have a third option ready at some point that needs to be on your priority list.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

It's an auction.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. You could just make it your new wardrobe.

[Andy Holloway]

Who.

[Jason Moore]

Who else has signature?

[Mike Wright]

Jason does not have the respect for signatures that he needs.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe not, but I just think it's amazing. I used to get signed basketballs when I was a kid and I refused to not play with them.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they definitely don't have the respect for signatures that you need.

[Jason Moore]

No, it was different. It was like I wanted. It wasn't that I didn't respect it. It was that it made me feel so much greater, you know, using it. But anyways, however you like to respect your signatures. Pristine auctions a place to get it. P R I S T I n e auction.com.

[Mike Wright]

All right, it's time for an enter out.

[Jason Moore]

What's it going to payment fly?

[Mike Wright]

Are you in or out? All right, best guess, Lashawn McCoy. They talked about him. Groin soreness, general soreness. Soreness, soreness. Can he survive 16 and is he going to play this week?

[Andy Holloway]

He's not practicing today, but they say it's a scheduled day of rest. He is going to play.

[Jason Moore]

He'll be in this weekend and then out and then in and then out through the game. But he'll start.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a beast.

[Mike Wright]

He's going to have the most touches in football if he doesn't get hurt. Jordan Howard playing in?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Jerry Ajayi.

[Andy Holloway]

And he's going to play.

[Mike Wright]

Thomas Rawls coming back?

[Andy Holloway]

Yep, he's going to play. And the way I'm handling Thomas Rawls. Wait. We'll talk about Rawls later.

[Jason Moore]

Sorry.

[Andy Holloway]

Really getting ahead of myself.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, we'll talk about how you're handling Thomas Rawls.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Odell Beckham Jr. What's your gut say? I say out.

[Jason Moore]

Man, that is. It's the toughest one. I'm going to say out for the sake of people not making a mistake.

[Mike Wright]

Danny Amadola, out. Some talk of Rex Burkhead stepping into the slot there.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he could.

[Jason Moore]

He showed the good pass.

[Andy Holloway]

Catcher. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Cardinals wide receiver John Brown, DNP on Thursday did not practice.

[Andy Holloway]

He hasn't practiced this week. I don't think he's going to play.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I lean out.

[Mike Wright]

Bold take here. Go get J.J. nelson. Start J.J. nelson. If you need a wide receiver this week, I'm willing, I'm willing to be hot with that take and tell you to go get him. Vonte Davis unlikely to play again for Indianapolis and I think the Cardinals get back on track this week.

[Jason Moore]

Jermaine Gresham. Well, I guess we'll talk about him in just a second.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's. He's going to be out as well.

[Andy Holloway]

So after getting his German suplex in that game.

[Mike Wright]

Josh Bellamy. Yep. He's hurt because there's more wide receivers hurt in Chicago. He's Deontay Thompson. Is he going to be the guy to step in there?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you to Chicago wide receivers.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Vance McDonald added to the injury report. Does he play or is Jesse James all alone this week?

[Jason Moore]

I don't think it matters out.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean it's advance. McDonald is not integrated fully yet into the offense so it does not matter.

[Mike Wright]

Alright, it's time to get into the matchups.

[Jason Moore]

Fantasy forecast.

[Mike Wright]

It's gonna be gonna be a rough one on the Jets. They're heading to Oakland. Marshawn Lynch's debut at home, 43 and a half point over under. But the Raiders are favored by 14. Do the math. The jets aren't scoring a lot of points in this one according to Vegas at least. And I can't say that I'm excited to start anybody on the New York jets offense in this game. I'm benching. I'm going to go on a limb here. I'm benching Bilal Powell for Adrian Peterson this week. I am benching Bilal Powell. I do not care about the game flow. I do not care that they will be down. What I saw last week from Oakland in Tennessee shutting down that running game, it's not going to be pretty. Look, you can say a team like the jets are going to be down there for they pass a lot. You still have to get first downs to get to pass a lot. I'm worried about the first downs and what you're going to see from that offense. Do you guys agree with my take or would you start Bilal Powell?

[Andy Holloway]

I would start Powell over Peterson, sure. But I agree that I'm not. You can't be really excited to start anyone from this team. I mean you thought well Robbie Anderson, he can be a sneaky guy at the end of drafts because we saw what Petty did with him last year and just over targeting him. They trade for Jermaine Curse like the day before the season starts and then Curse is their leading receiver.

[Mike Wright]

I mean he was in the top 10 in targets.

[Andy Holloway]

So if you're playing anyone from this team, especially if you're talking wide receivers, I guess I'm playing Jermaine Curse.

[Mike Wright]

That's where I would go. Marshawn lynch, he's a must start in this game. He has the potential for multi touchdown game. Amari Cooper, Michael Crabtree, no debate there. Let's just talk about Jared Cook for a second. Do you put him in the top 12 this week against the Jets?

[Jason Moore]

Top 12? I see him as a player that should start. So yes. I mean I guess my rankings I've got him 11. So I think Jared Cook is a good start this week.

[Mike Wright]

It's funny because I hadn't seen this stat when I said it, but the jets have converted just. It says they converted first downs on just 10 of 54 plays. That was the worst in football. Whereas the Raiders did it twice as much in week one, which was second best. So the jets struggled to convert first downs against Buffalo. I know that the Raiders defense, we don't know exactly what they are yet. There was concern in the preseason, but I had said, look, this is a vanilla defense in the preseason and their head coach is known for playing defense and you've got Mack there. So we'll see what kind of pressure they can put on Josh McCann, what kind of turn turnovers they can create. I think they're a sneaky defensive play this week as well.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, they're great.

[Andy Holloway]

They're a great defensive streamer this week.

[Jason Moore]

Always play your D's against a couple.

[Andy Holloway]

Of Jets, Browns and the Colts right now.

[Jason Moore]

Rather play the Niners in there.

[Mike Wright]

Would you rather play the Raiders against the jets or would you rather play Tampa against Chicago? If you had a choice, I would play the Raiders. Would you play the Rams over either of those situations?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I don't think I would.

[Mike Wright]

Let's talk about the Dolphins making their 2017 debut heading into Los Angeles, taking on the football Chargers. That's right. As opposed to the basketball Chargers.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

45 point over under the Chargers four and a half point favorites at home. I think. I think we can all be fairly impressed with Philip Rivers still putting up a nice fantasy line against the Denver defense. Three touchdowns in week one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean it really became a necessity towards the end of the game and you can see they want to run.

[Jason Moore]

Oh yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

They brought in a head Coach who is a running backs coach, he wants to run. But they switched to the past when they had to with the nice thing for Philip Rivers. I know he was the man of mediocrity last year. He actually has his weapons. I mean, he had Tyrell Williams last year. Now they have a healthy Keenan Allen for now and a healthy Travis Benjamin. And we had, for everyone had forgotten about Travis Benjamin, who was, he was the big free agent acquisition last year who got banged up and wasn't able to provide speed, which that's what his game is. He's really fast. And then you saw it and it brings a whole new dynamic to this offense.

[Mike Wright]

Hunter Henry, you're putting him in the closet, throwing away the key.

[Jason Moore]

I'm putting him on the waivers and I'm keeping my eyes on him because I don't want to roster multiple tight ends and I'm not confident enough in his usage in week one to start him. So I'll keep an eye on him. If they change their game plan up and it was more of a, you know, a Denver Broncos thing, then I'll pick it back up.

[Andy Holloway]

It's possible. But Antonio Gates, this was the concern for Hunter Henry over the off season, that Antonio Gates is a stud. He's one of the best pass catching tight ends in the history of, of football and he's still on the team.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean Antonio Gates is Antonio Gates. They're not going to just. He's either going to be off that team or he's going to be used like he always has been. And that's just the facts. It's interesting in the beginning of the year, if you don't have one of the top, let's say five or six tight ends, the big names, Reed, Graham, Ifert, Gronk, Olson. I'm in this position in one of my leagues where I kind of just. I want to find the breakout tight end.

[Jason Moore]

Zachary.

[Mike Wright]

Well, yeah, you don't have a choice. I'm talking about waiver wire, Jay. I'm talking about like you want to find a breakout tight end. Whether it's. And I'm. The names I'm throwing out there. Is it, is it Austin Hooper? What does he do in week two? Is it Evan Ingram? Does he run a high percentage of routes and get utilized in that offense? Maybe Marshall isn't anything and it's Ingram. Like I find myself wanting to roster a couple heading into the week so that I don't have to play the waiver wire game on. Let's put it this way, if Ingram Or Hooper has a breakout week two to go with their pretty nice week one. Decent week one for Ingram. Yeah, he had a great week one. Aren't those high priced waiver pickups because they're both pass catching talents. I mean you're looking to find a difference maker.

[Andy Holloway]

Say Hooper. The difference would be all of a sudden he gets eight targets. Sure it was two targets and he'd maximize the value. Ingram is. If he continues to see usage or I should say have that usage go up, then yeah, he becomes interesting. But he's not going to be high priced. I don't believe.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, if both have a good game, they'll definitely be someone that's that's picked up. But they're not going to be the $20, $25 waiver pickups.

[Mike Wright]

I doubt Jarvis Landry, Devonte Parker, Kenny Stills, we've said it. I think yesterday on the show might have been in the foot cast but Devonte Parker is one of those players that loving this year. Not sure about this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Casey.

[Mike Wright]

If I had to take the under, I mean if I had to go over under on this 45 points, I'm taking the under. I think this could be a defensive battle. I really do.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. And it's Parker. This is where I thought you were going is Devonte Parker is likely to be shadowed by Casey Hayward. Jason Verrett, the other cornerback for the Chargers was added to the injury report. I haven't heard anything about him missing the game, but both Verrett and Hayward are excellent DBs. And Devonte Parker for as much hype as we've talked about in this offseason and mostly because Smoke and Jay Cuddy don't care and he's going to target him. He's not yet a great wide receiver. So if he has Hayward shadowing him, it could be a really tough day for Parker.

[Jason Moore]

I like Ajayi in this matchup because of how good the cornerbacks are for San Diego. I think if you're going to attack the San Diego Chargers defense with Jay Cutler and this system, it should be on the back of Jay Ajayi. Let that open things up for you deep with Kenny Stills, something like that. So I like Jay Ajayi. People were like why are you so low on Jay Cutler this week? And you know, it's not that I'm low on Jake Cutler. I'm very high on the cornerbacks that are across the field. So yeah, I lean towards the running game for Miami and on the offensive side for San Diego. I pretty much like all the assets. It's not a disrespect to the Dolphins defense, but I think they've got a really balanced team and they'll be able to put up enough points to have Keenan Allen and have Melvin Gordon both be very fantasy relevant.

[Mike Wright]

Sorry, Williams.

[Jason Moore]

I understand Tyrell Williams this week.

[Andy Holloway]

An excitement for Julius.

[Jason Moore]

Unfortunately. Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so Julius Thomas, I mean, there was. There was at least a little bit of success for the tight ends for. With Trevor Simeon throwing the ball. Any excitement for Julius Thomas on the.

[Mike Wright]

Basis that the corners may have some of the white outs locked up? No. Wait and see. Wait and see. For me, I make the argument why he should and then I still say no. All right. The Cowboys take on the Broncos in Denver. Denver. They're two point dogs in this game.

[Andy Holloway]

That is.

[Mike Wright]

Is that accurate? Do you have that?

[Andy Holloway]

That's very interesting.

[Mike Wright]

Let's double check that. Dallas minus two in Denver. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Dallas's offensive line can control the game. I mean, Denver is not, you know, while their defense has been world class against the pass, they have been middle of the pack against the run. And so if Dallas goes in there and just runs the ball play after play after play.

[Andy Holloway]

Which they can.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Which they can and they will.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Right now I have Zeke as my number one running back in of the week. So I am not afraid of the Denver defense when it comes to that. And I think that's what Vegas is reflecting the fact that if Dallas is able to control the game and score through the, you know, be able to move the ball through the running game, it's hard to beat them.

[Mike Wright]

I think Mike and I have a pretty strong disagreement on Des Bryant this week. Mike, you've said that you're willing to just start him in this matchup. I like to find another option if I'm on the road in Denver.

[Andy Holloway]

And that's. I don't blame you if you want to do that. I'm going off of. He got open against Janoris Jenkins and Jenkins was his kryptonite last year, but Dak just missed him. I mean, you're talking a foot. A foot changes the outcome of DEZ Bryant's fantasy week last week and which would also then give you a. That boost of confidence. So I'm still playing him on the. On the Bronco side of the receivers.

[Mike Wright]

I have should say Terrence Williams. He was unable to practice. He's likely to miss the game. I imagine that means more targets for Cole Beasley and that Bryce Butler would step in.

[Andy Holloway]

That is how I would read the situation as well, Demarys Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders, I like them this week. I think you should have confidence plugging them in back into your lineup. I know it was. It was rough, but I mean, that was Jason Verrett and Casey Hayward shutting down the receivers. So I'm not buying in to the Cowboys secondary based off of what happened.

[Mike Wright]

I'll bet you I'll water bet you demarius Thomas versus DEZ Bryant.

[Andy Holloway]

Hmm. I don't think I would. I would have to actually look at my rankings. I mean, I probably would favor Thomas slightly.

[Mike Wright]

All right, well, then we will not. We will not bet then. All right, let's go ahead and move down the line here. Let's talk about the Redskins and the Rams. The Rams came out Jason son of bum.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Wade Phillips got it done, coordinator.

[Jason Moore]

And now they get Aaron Donald back on that defense and they're going up against team that I, you know, predicted for an offensive collapse. So far, they did not look good week one. And I worry about the Redskins options again. I'm not in love with the Rams defense. I think a lot of what made the Rams defense great was the Colts offense without Andrew Luck. But I'm not scared of the Redskins offense either. So I think this is going to be one of those games where Terrell Pryor has a better week than he had last week, but not great. I don't have any Redskin really breaking out this week and changing what we saw in week one, other than just Terrell Pryor maybe being able to reel in a couple more of those catches.

[Mike Wright]

The Rams are two and a half point favorites at home in this game. In my.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Andy's almost upset of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

The Rams are favored. I mean, they're at home.

[Jason Moore]

So I think.

[Mike Wright]

I do think that the. I've made this decision. I've been staring down, look, 29 points from the Rams defense last week. And I made the determination this morning. I would rather play Tampa against Chicago than I would the Rams and risk it against an offense that has not been, but can be very explosive. And I think that the Redskins will get it done in this game. I know that Kirk Cousins, traditionally slow starter, struggles for Rob Kelly last week. I think you're going to see a little bit of a Jekyll and Hyde from the Rams this year. And this is a game that I think will be competitive. I think ultimately my take is that Washington gets it done and I would start troll prior. I think people want to know what they have in Jameson Crowder and Rob Kelly right now, though, that's the question that a lot of people have because you drafted Crowder at the highest draft capital he's ever gone for and you got nothing. Last week you saw Chris Thompson effective, but no Samaj AP Ryan in the backfield.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, because Jay Gruden doesn't forget fumbles.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I can't believe that is a joke. I can't believe that. You know who forget.

[Mike Wright]

Who forgets fumbles? You know who forgets fumbles? Andy Reid. Where'd that get you?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

250 yards total offense. Dream hunt.

[Andy Holloway]

The rookie record yards from scrimmage is what happened. And Jay Gruden would have benched him.

[Jason Moore]

Benched him for life.

[Mike Wright]

No, he would have. And now, now just imagine this. If you're Samaj P. Ryan, owner, I am in one league. Let's say Rob Kelly poops the bet again and Samaji Piran gets an opportunity next week. I'm freaking out that he's going to drop the. He may have a 200 yard game and drop the ball and you don't see him again.

[Andy Holloway]

And here's the problem. You know who else is freaking out?

[Jason Moore]

Saj A P Ryan. Yeah, absolutely.

[Andy Holloway]

This is just.

[Jason Moore]

That's like telling someone, hey, just don't worry. You know, you're going into this big important event or so just don't freak out.

[Mike Wright]

Whatever you do not worry. Don't breathe heavily.

[Jason Moore]

What do you think's gonna happen here?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, that's just. You're the. Wait, you're the coach. You're supposed to be the leader.

[Mike Wright]

Mike Jason weighed in on what he thinks of the Redskins offense in this game. I will say it's a nice matchup for goff in Game 2 after a nice first game because the Redskins allowed the most first downs last year. Last week, Goff had a very nice start to his season.

[Andy Holloway]

A lot of that, though, was Carson Wentz just being an absolute slipperly.

[Mike Wright]

Slippery, slippery.

[Andy Holloway]

I was going to go slippery worm. I mean, he was just, he was greased up or something and was breaking out of tackles. That's not Jared Goff's, but Jordan Reed.

[Mike Wright]

Rod Kelly, Jameson Crowder. Are you starting them? Are you not starting?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm still starting every day.

[Mike Wright]

All three of them.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, remember Crowder was added to the injury report right before week one and there was like, well, it's Crowder even going to play? So he's, he's a bit banged up right now.

[Mike Wright]

Whatever you do, Mike, don't mess up your predictions. Don't mess them up.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't forget The north remembers 49ers.

[Mike Wright]

Travel to Seattle to get their butts handed to them by the Seahawks. The Seahawks are minus four. I'm sorry, the 14 point favorites.

[Jason Moore]

Is that what they tell their wives when they're boarding the plan? Yeah, I got to go get my butt handed to me.

[Mike Wright]

No, I mean they. No, it's fair. All right. The Seahawks, they're going to have their way with the 49ers up in Seattle. If you wanted to lock down a victory, this would be one that is as close to a lock as you can get. The real question for fantasy owners is how much production will you get out of the offensive weapons in San Francisco, namely Carlos Hyde and Pierre Garcon? I think those are the only two names worth mentioning there. And then who do you expect to be the backfield leader for Seattle in a very favorable matchup at home?

[Andy Holloway]

All right, the San Francisco analysis, it's really going to be the same thing every week. It's. What do you. What can we get out of them? Not entirely sure because the Seahawks have a great defense, but Carlos Hyde and Pierre Garcon are weekly starters. I don't know if there's a situation where I'm ever benching them.

[Jason Moore]

I would find plenty of situations. I'm sure there are a lot of teams that. Because where you draft Pierre Garcon, you have better options this week. He's my 36th ranked wide receiver. So you're right. That's still on that cusp of. Okay. If you usually start three, then he's a starter. And so it's not the worst thing in the world if you have to start Pierre Garcon. But you. I think there's going to be a lot of teams that have better options. And I would be okay sitting Garcon because his upside here, you know, if I just don't see, you know, him getting. If he gets eight receptions. Right. I don't think. Which would be great. I think that's closer to 8 for 60.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Than 8 for 108.

[Mike Wright]

The ceiling is definitely challenged in this matchup. Would you rather start Kelvin Benjamin?

[Andy Holloway]

And a reminder, Kelvin, Richard Sherman remains sidelined at Thursday's practice. I mean, he's dealing with a hammy. That doesn't influence you at all.

[Jason Moore]

If he's out, it certainly does. Him getting rest on a Thursday to protect a hammy does not yet. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And it's not. It doesn't come. It's a pass rush. I mean, it's. It's getting to Brian Hoyer. It's making Brian Hoyer, you know, not be able to cross the 50. So, yeah, Garcon could have six to seven receptions, but Thomas Rawls, he.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't. Okay, so this is what I was talking about. If you have Thomas Rawls and you had. You drafted him, you had him on the bench, you're going, yes, now is the time. I'm only plugging Rawls in if I absolutely have to do it. I'm not excited about it, but I'm not playing Lacey at this point. I'm not playing Carson. Because you have the reverse bugaboo here from Pete Carroll, who the guy he talked of this week was Chris Carson, just like Eddie Lacy, who was ready to get 20 to 25 carries last week. By that, he meant he's going to get like five. Five carries.

[Mike Wright]

So this is the game. It's Thomas Rawls to win the job going into the future.

[Andy Holloway]

But are you excited to play him? I mean, the matchup is amazing.

[Jason Moore]

Someone's going to score a lot. I mean, when you're favored by two touchdowns and you're at home, that really favors the running game for the offense, but we just don't know who it is.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Lacey could end up with two touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

I was actually going to bring that.

[Mike Wright]

Up, terrible as that is.

[Jason Moore]

I know Eddie Lacy is on most waivers or a lot of waivers. You know, we said he was okay to drop if there were better options out there. But I also think he might be worth just picking up because he is still a starting running back and this matchup is so good. He could look completely different after this week. I'm not predicting that he will, but there is that chance that if you're picking up handcuffs, I would rather pick up someone who has that kind of an opportunity.

[Mike Wright]

Russell Wilson and Doug Baldwin were both my starts of the week in this matchup. I think they get back on track. I'd be confident with Jimmy Graham as well. Sunday Night Football. This one should be more exciting than Thursday Night Football. You get Aaron Rodgers and you get Matt Ryan. The packers and The Falcons. Falcons three point favorites at home in a 54 point over under.

[Andy Holloway]

I like how you megaphone that.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, that's just. That's juicy.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the opposite of last night's, I think. I think the line.

[Mike Wright]

That was a four point over under. So, I mean, big names that you always start in this matchup. Let's put you on the spot, though. Devonte Adams or Randall Cobb in this.

[Jason Moore]

Game, I'm going Devonte Adams because of the scoring opportunities here, that's where Adams. You know, Adams only had four receptions last week, but that's pretty much like par for the course. It's just a matter of, does he get in the end zone? And I think this is a game that he can get in the end zone.

[Mike Wright]

You're not far off on that. I mean, 75 receptions breaks down to basically five a game, so.

[Andy Holloway]

And Aaron Rodgers, historically, the way we've seen him handle the Seahawks, he. He doesn't often challenge those cornerbacks. He just takes what's there. And Randall Cobb was getting open. I'm with Jason. I would play Adams over Cobb this week if I'm making that decision.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

Austin Hooper, he's a wait and see for me. Still, I wonder how good the Green Bay packers defense is going to be. And he only had two targets last week. Obviously, one of them was very valuable. If, I mean, you. You could start him and end up with a great game. It would not shock me if Austin Hooper, who was drafted to be a great tight end, who goes to a good situation with a quarterback that used Tony Gonzalez forever, a lot of things stack up. I like Austin Hooper a lot, but he would be one of those guys like Andy you were bringing up if you wanted to roster two tight ends, which. Which I usually don't. He is the type where you want to wait and see what you have because it might be something very special. But I would not start him in this match.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, he was a waiver AD this week. I guess some people may have drafted him, but you had. You likely have a better option already in place. And last week, the packers shut down Jimmy Graham, who at this point in their careers is a much better tight end than Austin Hooper. So I'm not excited to plug him in just yet.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. And obviously, as the weeks go on, you know, especially from week three, week four and on, we'll be breaking down the run and pass defenses for these teams. If we throw those numbers out to you right now, they. They don't have the stability that I think is required to bring those numbers to fantasy relevance. Is that fair to say?

[Andy Holloway]

It's very fair.

[Mike Wright]

So I, you know, there we have them, but, you know, I don't think the packers past defense is going to be fourth all season long, because maybe they are. No, they're not. They have a. They didn't change overnight. The packers have a bad secondary. The problem was the Seattle Seahawks have a terrible offensive line. You didn't. Russell Wilson didn't have the opportunity to Test the secondary because he was on his butt. That's what happened in week one.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, speaking of quarterbacks being on their butt that play last night. Sorry to interrupt. Gino Atkins came through the line and gives him the two hand shoved.

[Mike Wright]

His life flash before his eyes.

[Andy Holloway]

His torso and his legs separated and before snapping back together like a rubber band.

[Jason Moore]

I was not live when I was watching, yet I was a little bit behind. And I see Andy posting this WWF gif in slack because that's what happened. And then I saw the play. I was like, well, I'm positive which play he was talking about now. Anyways, sorry.

[Mike Wright]

Sunday Night Football. I'm sorry. Monday Night Football, Lions, Giants football at night.

[Andy Holloway]

Who knows?

[Mike Wright]

A little bit of an update. Odell Beckham did practice again today. Oh, still on the fence about Monday. You need that backup plan. Whether it's Brandon Marshall, Sterling Shepard, maybe it's Eric Abron. Eric.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so with the news that he did practice today, I would. It was like we talked about the question earlier, the person with desean Jackson. I would go get Shepard and I would hold out for Beckham.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

The fact that he's actually a Monday Night Football option, that's how I would handle it.

[Mike Wright]

Matthew Stafford had a great week. One probably a waiver wire, darling for many 40 fantasy points in our league of record kind of flew in the face of what we expected him to do against a very tough Arizona secondary. Here you go against a Giants defense that's pretty strong at home. Matthew Stafford doesn't generally travel well in terms of fantasy point production on the road versus pack him. Yeah, he doesn't bring his fantasy points with him.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I forgot the suitcase again.

[Mike Wright]

What do you think happens in this, in this Monday night matchup? Do you think Stafford has a passable fantasy game?

[Jason Moore]

Passable, yes. Not one that I would love or want to start. I mean, I. Vegas is expecting this to be a lower scoring game. I agree with that because the Giants defense is good and the offense right now looks so bad. I think that hurts the value of Matthew Stafford. He's not going to have to be playing catch up. You know, he leaves the comfort of home and the dome. So I'm not really big on Matthew Stafford or frankly, I don't think I'm big on just about any Detroit Lions.

[Mike Wright]

Did you say you believe that Matthew Stafford's playing catch up in this game?

[Jason Moore]

No, I'm saying I don't think he will. That limits his upside, which limits Theo Riddick's upside. Amir Abdullah. I mean, I've Been saying for a while I'm not high on him in general and this isn't a great thing for him.

[Andy Holloway]

If either Abdullah or Riddick get anything going, it's passing. I think the run game is going to be.

[Mike Wright]

These are the two back shields that already are the worst. I mean, last year they passed the or they ran the ball the least and they were the least efficient. It's the Perkins Reddick Abdullah is going.

[Jason Moore]

To turn into a running game.

[Mike Wright]

Watch that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'll just want to say if the Lions have more than 30 yards rushing as a team, I will be impressed.

[Mike Wright]

There you go.

[Andy Holloway]

That's how little I believe in the rushing game this week.

[Mike Wright]

Golden Tate.

[Jason Moore]

Golden Tate would be the only guy I'm willing to start.

[Mike Wright]

You're going to start. And Marvin Jones or Kenny Golladay in this one or as they are now calling him, whether they want to or not. Baby Tron.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Shout out to JD Zacharies. And he is. He is spreading that one. But I'm staying strong.

[Jason Moore]

We're staying on those smooth routes. Bring it on, jj. Bring it on. Kenny G versus Babytron. I love it.

[Andy Holloway]

Babytron doesn't have this.

[Jason Moore]

Sweet. Oh, sweet.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, they're so smooth.

[Mike Wright]

You're sitting him though, right?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. All that said, definitely sitting Kenny G.

[Andy Holloway]

But if I have to pick between Golladay and Jones, I'm probably playing Golladay.

[Mike Wright]

Big play, big play potential.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm avoiding Jenkins.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they both have big play potential, but I think better quarterback will be on Marvin Jones. I'm not playing either of them, though.

[Mike Wright]

Is Brandon Marshall, does he have any chance of bouncing back in this game and saving some fantasy relevance?

[Andy Holloway]

Does he have a chance? Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, he really does. I'm a chance. I'm anti Brandon Marshall. Before this year, I did not think he was going to have a good fantasy year. That being said, I like him better as a 2 than a 1 right now. And he's a squeaky wheel. So if Odell Beckham comes back and he. I'm sure this week has not been quiet about get me the ball, let me have a chance. He'll. He'll get more targets this week and I think he could be. It's funny, relevant.

[Mike Wright]

There's a difference between a. An expensive squeaky wheel and a cheap squeaky wheel.

[Jason Moore]

I'm.

[Mike Wright]

I don't put confidence in Adrian Peterson's chirping that he's going to get more work because he wants more. And I'm not sure I would put stocking to Marshall despite My fact. The fact that I actually like Brandon Marshall.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The difference there to me is that when Adrian Peterson's a squeaky wheel, Sean Payton head coach is the one he's got to win over, you know, whereas Brandon Marshall has to win over Eli. The past plays are going to be called. It's just a matter of where Eli chooses to go.

[Mike Wright]

Fair enough. All right, let's move on. We're going to do some. We're going to do a little draft.

[Jason Moore]

The daily dose brought to you by play draft.

[Mike Wright]

All right, we're going to do a live draft right now, five players each. And get this, we're doing an expert draft. That means the top 10 quarterbacks, top 20 wide receivers, and top 20 running backs are off the board. We do not have them as options this week. So you're going to see us drafting some garbage. No, just basically making the tough decisions that you got to make out there as opposed to just drafting Ezekiel Elliott.

[Andy Holloway]

So, Mike, this is actually tough. So I'm starting off.

[Mike Wright]

You're on the clock and you're going to kick it off right in five seconds here.

[Andy Holloway]

So I got the one. One I'm making. I've got two players that I've got my eye on, but I'm going to. I'm going to start it off with a running back and a high scoring over. Under. I'm going to take. Because I believe I'm taking Mike Gillisle.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Could see some touchdowns, some more touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

That was one of the few guys that I had targeted.

[Mike Wright]

I'm actually going to just. I'm going to grab DeMarco Murray.

[Jason Moore]

Dang it.

[Andy Holloway]

And that was the other. It was the Jacksonville matchup that I like Murray.

[Mike Wright]

And all three times that we've done these drafts, I've ended up in the second spot. I have not had a chance to be at the turn. So Jason's on the clock for two picks now. Mike went. Mike went. Gillisley. I went to Marco, Murray. And Mike or Jason is facing.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I really would have liked him. I'm going touchdown upside with Jonathan Stewart against Buffalo. And at quarterback, you know, there's no super exciting option, but Big Ben at.

[Andy Holloway]

Home, he was on my list.

[Jason Moore]

Big Ben at home is usually a pretty solid, safe pick.

[Mike Wright]

All right, it's back around to me, my second pick. I'm staring down choices like demarius Thomas, Martavis Bryant, these running backs, Stefan Diggs, Alshon, Jeffrey. I'm actually going to go ahead and jump on the player I said would have a good game earlier. I'm going to take Demaryius Thomas in the.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man, that's a. That's a great pickup there. I will. Oh, goodness, man. All right, I'm going to take. I'm going to. I'm just going to go all touchdown upside. That's my strategy for this week. So I'm going to go with Tevin Coleman as my other running back and wide receiver because he's my guy. Michael Crabtree. And a great matchup against the Jets.

[Jason Moore]

This is awful. Every guy I want, you guys are taken.

[Mike Wright]

I'm coming back around here and I'm going to pair DeMarco Murray with Christian McCaffrey. Take Christian McCaffrey in the third round.

[Andy Holloway]

For those who don't know, draft is a half point PPR scoring format.

[Mike Wright]

So we are in an expert draft. That's why you're not hearing the big names go off the board. We're making some decisions based on matchups.

[Jason Moore]

Half point PPR against a terrible defense. If there's no John Brown, I'm taking Larry Fitzgerald.

[Mike Wright]

It's a great pick.

[Jason Moore]

I think he's.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's a fantastic pick. I should have grabbed him, man.

[Jason Moore]

Running backs. I guess I'm gonna. Guess I'm gonna go with one of my guys here. Oh, man. Mark Ingram or James White. Which way do you go? Yeah, I guess I go with my guy Ingram.

[Mike Wright]

I'm gonna go ahead and jump on trail Prior.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's a great pick.

[Jason Moore]

You're gonna get caught up in the trail prior.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so I'm on the turn here. I have just two more picks left, which means I take a quarterback and a wide receiver or a tight end and I'm going to pull up for my starting quarterback. Man, I kind of want to go Mariota, but I'm not. I'm going to go with the. I'm going to go with the fresh arm of Jameis Winston against Chicago. I'm not buying in.

[Jason Moore]

I've only got one guy that I want.

[Andy Holloway]

Did I take one? Oh, you already took Big Ben. You didn't need him.

[Jason Moore]

No, no. I'm just hoping that you guys don't take them.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. And then I'm going to try and counteract. I'm going to pull up some Mylansa for Jason's Big Ben. Get my other game, Martava's Bryant. Get the alien on the squad at home.

[Jason Moore]

Well, then I'm safe because Andy's already got two wide receivers.

[Mike Wright]

I went ahead and took Carson Palmer as my quarterback against Indianapolis for some upside and that wraps up my roster.

[Jason Moore]

Said I would take devonte Adams over Randall Cobb, which is absolutely true. But devonte Adams is gone. Huge over under touchdown opportunity. So I'll take Cobb to finish it out.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Expert draft completed.

[Andy Holloway]

Remember, I hate my team.

[Mike Wright]

The loser. Well, yeah, the loser of this. Did you draft your player, Jason?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I did.

[Mike Wright]

I see 5, 4, 3, 2. I drafted one Cobb.

[Jason Moore]

He's on my team. I see it on my phone.

[Mike Wright]

All right, so we wrapped up the draft. Why don't you read back your roster? I've got Palmer, Murray, McCaffrey, Thomas and Pryor.

[Jason Moore]

I've got Big Ben, Mark Ingram and Jonathan Stewart. And Randall Cobb, Larry Fitzgerald. I've got an older team.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a seasoned, seasoned team. I got veteran Jameis Gilly, Coleman, Crabtree Bryant.

[Mike Wright]

So the loser will once again eat something terrible for lunch this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Or maybe it's delicious, like spam.

[Mike Wright]

No, we're gonna make sure that doesn't happen again. We're never getting you spam again now that you like it.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, it was terrible. Don't get me Spam again, guys.

[Mike Wright]

Just another example of one of the ways you can play on draft. You can do expert drafts, you can do beginners drafts, you can do quarterback only drafts. Or you can just be in larger quantity drafts, like 10, 12 people to a league. So you can check it [e-mail] Ballers that is it for today's episode. Mike will be on Periscope Sunday morning answering your questions.

[Andy Holloway]

And for those asked, what time? What time? An hour before kickoff, Sunday morning.

[Mike Wright]

All right, check out our [e-mail] we will be talking to you Sunday morning. And back to recap all the games on Monday.

[Andy Holloway]

Absolutely. Foot Clan. It's week two time. That means crush it. It means that every week.

[Jason Moore]

So goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers.