Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 9 Keep/Trade/Cut, Pump the Brakes, Devin Scrumptious

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 9 Keep/Trade/Cut, Pump the Brakes, Devin Scrumptious

Release Date: November 1, 2017

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Introduction

In the Week 9 episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright delve deep into crucial fantasy football strategies, providing listeners with expert advice on which players to keep, trade, or cut. The episode also features their popular segments "Pump the Brakes", where they highlight players who might underperform in the upcoming week, and "Mailbag", where they address listener questions. Throughout the episode, the trio shares insightful analysis, notable quotes, and actionable tips to help fantasy managers dominate their leagues.

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Pump the Brakes: Reevaluating Key Players

In the "Pump the Brakes" segment, the hosts discuss players who have shown promising performances but may not sustain their level of play in the forthcoming week. Their focus this week centers on three players: Paul Richardson, Alshon Jeffery, and Jameson Crowder.

• Paul Richardson: Jason expresses concern despite Richardson's monster performance in Week 8, citing Russell Wilson's exceptional play and the unpredictable nature of Seattle's passing game as reasons to potentially bench him.

  "I'm going to pump the brakes on starting him. I just think it's going to be a week-to-week situation."
  (04:00)

• Alshon Jeffery: The discussion highlights Jeffery's diminishing targets over the past weeks, especially with the shift in Seattle's offense.

  "You can't bank on a guy that is getting that low of volume."
  (07:07)

• Jameson Crowder: Despite a strong Week 8, Crowder is scrutinized due to inconsistent usage and the return of other pass-catching options.

  "I'm highly skeptical, highly doubtful that Jameson Crowder will [perform]."
  (09:17)

The hosts agree that while these players have potential upside, their current trajectories suggest caution.

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News and Notes: NFL Updates Impacting Fantasy

The hosts pivot to recent NFL developments that bear significance for fantasy managers:

• Kelvin Benjamin Trade: The Panthers traded Kelvin Benjamin to the Buffalo Bills, aiming to enhance their running game with Devin Funches entering the roster.

  "Devin Funches is an absolute must grab try to acquire."
  (12:52)

  The discussion touches on how this trade impacts Benjamin's fantasy value and the increased opportunities for Funches.

• Ezekiel Elliott Suspension: Elliott's ongoing legal issues result in the denial of an emergency injunction, likely leading to a six-game suspension.

  "I believe Zeke will be suspended for six games. We'll find out soon enough."
  (17:54)

• Josh Gordon Reinstatement: Gordon's potential return is noted, though the implications for fantasy play remain uncertain.

  "Brian Hoyer as the backup officially."
  (18:38)

• Brock Osweiler Starting: Osweiler is named the starter for the Broncos in Week 9, prompting discussions on his effectiveness.

  "Eagles defense. He's just a smoldering dumpster at all times."
  (19:42)

These updates provide a backdrop for the upcoming fantasy decisions, emphasizing the fluid nature of player statuses.

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Keep, Trade, Cut: Strategic Roster Management

This segment is a cornerstone of the episode, where the hosts evaluate specific players to help listeners make informed decisions:

• Ty Montgomery:

  • Andy advocates for keeping Montgomery, emphasizing his potential despite team uncertainties.

    "I've got to see what that split is afterwards."
    (25:06)

  • Jason leans towards trading him, citing his lack of established role.

    "I'm making the move. I'm going for gold."
    (25:56)

  • Mike agrees with trading, highlighting Aaron Jones' rise as the primary running back.

    "Aaron Jones has taken that job and he's the better running back."
    (26:13)

• Ty Hilton:

  • Andy strongly recommends cutting Hilton due to his inconsistent performances and challenging upcoming matchups.

    "I don't want to be tempted to start him. You're going to end up with 1.5 points."
    (28:04)

  • Jason concurs, suggesting trading Hilton for better value.

    "I would trade him for pennies on the dollar."
    (28:49)

  • Mike supports the decision, emphasizing the frequency of Hilton's underperformance.

    "Yeah, I would trade him."
    (28:13)

• Sammy Watkins:

  • Andy opts to keep Watkins, acknowledging his talent but notes the quarterback rapport issues.

    "The quarterback doesn't want to get him the ball."
    (32:02)

  • Jason and Mike consider cutting him due to declining performance and uncertain future with the team.

    "I'm willing to cut him."
    (31:07)

• Buck Allen:

  • Andy recommends keeping Buck Allen, given his consistent workload.

    "Buck Allen, you know, is getting in the teens carries."
    (29:26)

  • Jason emphasizes the value Buck still brings despite emerging competition.

    "He’s still getting opportunity."
    (30:51)

The trio meticulously analyzes each player's recent performance, team dynamics, and future prospects to guide listeners on optimal roster moves.

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Mailbag: Listener Questions and Expert Advice

In the Mailbag segment, the hosts tackle listener-submitted queries, offering personalized advice:

• Jake from Seattle:

  • Question: Struggling with managing Alfred Morris and Darren McFadden; considering trading them for Jerick McKinnon.
  • Advice:

    "I would think about if it's a half point league or a full point league, I would do it."
    (45:13)

• Jared in Iowa:

  • Question: Choosing between Doug Martin and C.J. Anderson.
  • Advice:

    "It's got to be Doug Martin."
    (46:55)

• Blake in St. Louis:

  • Question: Trading Will Fuller for Ty Hilton.
  • Advice:

    "I would trade Ty Hilton for Will Fuller."
    (47:17)

• Spokane:

  • Question: Selecting between Isaiah Corral and Alex Collins in a dynasty, full PPR league.
  • Advice:

    "In the rest of season I'd rather have Collins."
    (47:53)

• Zach in his front office:

  • Question: Choosing between Alshon Jeffery or Buck Allen for the flex spot.
  • Advice:

    "I am Buck Allen."
    (48:54)

The responses demonstrate the hosts' commitment to providing nuanced advice tailored to different league formats and individual team needs.

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Conclusion

The Week 9 episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast offers a comprehensive analysis of player performances, strategic roster management, and timely NFL news impacting fantasy leagues. Through segments like "Pump the Brakes" and "Keep, Trade, Cut", listeners gain valuable insights into making informed decisions to enhance their fantasy teams. Additionally, the Mailbag section reinforces the hosts' dedication to engaging directly with their audience, ensuring that even niche queries receive thoughtful consideration. Overall, this episode equips fantasy managers with the knowledge and strategies needed to navigate the complexities of Week 9 and beyond.

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Not gum related.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Wrigley's Gum, yeah. This show is not endorsed by Wrigley's. Welcome to the podcast the Fantasy Footballers back again, Andy, Mike and Jason. Today is Wednesday and we've got pump the brakes on the show. Keep straight cut and a whole big bag of mail from the Foot Clan. We're going to answer questions heading into week nine. You should check out the website, the fantasy footballers.com we have the always great Snap count observation article by Marcus Meaney on the website today. 10 things we learned in week eight by Matt Okada. Okada.

[Mike Wright]

I'm letting you hang it out there looking for help.

[Andy Holloway]

I would. I would assume Okada and it sounds okay. So yeah, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

That made me spit on my screen.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, congrats.

[Jason Moore]

Twitter is a website that you can go to and we are at the FF Ballers on there on Snapchat, YouTube, Fancy Sports Network, everywhere you could possibly want fantasy football information.

[Andy Holloway]

If you have not yet gone back to yesterday's YouTube show, you need to do yourself a favor. At least watch the first five minutes. That's a delight. I'll tell you what also was a delight. Taking a shower last night to get my Beetlejuice makeup off of the face.

[Jason Moore]

Did you guys have a good Halloween? Mike, did you have any exciting tales from the Crypt?

[Mike Wright]

The small1, the 3 year old did not melt down.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

We were running on back to back annual. Towards the end of the trick or treating, he would just lay down on the sidewalk and refuse to do anything but Scream. So we didn't do that. Great success.

[Andy Holloway]

I had no children throw up, which is great. Last year, as we were trick or treating around neighborhoods, my youngest, Isaac was just apparently constantly taking one more piece of candy. So like you are and a half in we get right back, we're done. The whole thing is over.

[Jason Moore]

Right now we're at my house up.

[Andy Holloway]

In Andy Holloway's driveway and Isaac just goes, he just looks straight and just throws up without moving.

[Jason Moore]

Just did a full Trevor Simeon all over himself. Okay, it is Wednesday, which means.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, oh, oh. O'Reilly, O'Reilly Auto Parts.

[Jason Moore]

All right, pump the brakes once again with O'Reilly Auto Parts. This segment every week we're pumping the brakes on somebody that maybe stood out the week before that you're excited about. And we're saying, hey, yeah, maybe the matchup is rough. Just tap the brakes. I said last, last week, Latavius Murray, tap the brakes. He's not going to give you what you thought.

[Andy Holloway]

That was a good one.

[Jason Moore]

I said, Jason said Deshaun Watson, the brakes went out and over the, over the cliff he went.

[Mike Wright]

The good news is you never have to do that again.

[Andy Holloway]

No, never. Never again.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So I am going to, I'm going to bring you Paul Richardson and I know that I think maybe both of my co hosts here disagree with me on this one. Paul Richardson had a monster week. He had 25 and a half points last week, a couple of touchdowns, was heavily involved. This is a week that I think you need to, I mean, I'm not saying you don't put Paul Richardson on your roster, but I said this yesterday. For one, Russell Wilson was otherworldly in this game. You're talking 450 plus yards passing. This was a shootout extraordinaire. And I think that though the passing targets on that team, I mean, it's just going to be a bit of a crapshoot with Richardson, Lockett, Graham Baldwin. I just, while this is a passing team, I don't know how much you can trust him to give you this type of performance. And so because of that, I think you need to pump the brakes on starting him. I just think it's going to be a week to week situation. And Richardson, while he's had it, he's had a pretty good year, Pretty, pretty.

[Mike Wright]

Solid year, especially considering the early on in the year he had that giant laceration. What did finger problem.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he had a, I think he dislocated, broke finger.

[Jason Moore]

What it comes down to is look, weeks, week eight last week against Houston, first week of the season, he had more than four receptions. First time since week one he had more than three receptions. So that's what it comes down to, a volume differential there. He may get in the end zone, but that's what's provided his only value. Eight fantasy points, one touchdown, ten fantasy points, one touchdown. Single digits and then one touchdown in week seven. I am pumping the brakes on Paul Richardson. If you're expecting what you got last week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I don't think you can expect what you got last week, if for no other reason than part of what happened last week for Seattle was The fact that DeSean Watson and the Houston Texans were able to keep up and just keep scoring. And so Russell had to come back and keep, you know, airing it out, trying to get back at Watson. Like, no, you, you're down. But I think volume is a really good point. And the volume hasn't been there. The only reason I would disagree with you at all, Andy, is because you could get them off of waivers. So it's, you know, this is like Doug Baldwin. There's an issue now with volume because it's spread around in Seattle and you drafted him high. Paul Richardson is like, okay, buys are here. Maybe I could pick him up, take a good shot there. But, you know, I see both sides of it. I'm also going to go the volume argument for my pump the brakes on Alshon Jeffrey.

[Jason Moore]

He's too loud.

[Andy Holloway]

He's far too loud.

[Jason Moore]

Turn him down.

[Andy Holloway]

Turn him down a little bit. Alshon Jeffrey.

[Jason Moore]

So that's the Brooks problem. Just so loud. Right, Brooks?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, perfect. So Alshon Jeffrey, right now Paul Richardson last week, six receptions. That's great. Four receptions in week one. It has been six weeks since Alshon Jeffrey has had a six reception game. In fact, if you look at the.

[Jason Moore]

Last five weeks, that's most of the weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Which is most of the weeks. Actually, five of the last six weeks he has had three receptions or less or fewer.

[Mike Wright]

Nice.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

Nice.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, the last two weeks he's only had two receptions. You can't bank on a guy that is getting that low of volume. And now he goes to Denver. You might look last week, two receptions, but it was for 62 yards and a touchdown. You had a great week out of him.

[Jason Moore]

He caught a bomb.

[Andy Holloway]

He caught a bomb. And a lot of scoring formats. You're going to get an extra bonus for being over a certain amount. So I, I don't, I don't think you could start Elshon Jeffrey this week with that low of volume. Denver Great defense.

[Jason Moore]

They're at home.

[Mike Wright]

Just to clarify, you said he's going to Denver.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he's going to face Denver.

[Mike Wright]

There we go. All right, I'm going to pump the brakes. This was almost a Mike special of just taking an entire offense and squashing them beneath my giant boot. But I'm just.

[Jason Moore]

He only has one giant boot.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

The other one is regular size.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. No, that makes sense. Totally.

[Mike Wright]

That's why I just walk in circles.

[Andy Holloway]

That's why you're on tilt. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Always, always walk in circles. All right, I'm going to pump the brakes on Jameson Crowder. Monster, monster week. But before that is high on the season was 6 for 52. He hasn't had more than three receptions since week three. And unfortunately those, those DeSean Watson Flames, those are non transferable.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Only one person may own the desean Watson flame similar to Highlander. So Kirk Cousins going up into Seattle, I'm not very excited to watch that or play him in my fantasy league. And similarly, the, the pass catching options for Washington, I'm just, I'm not very excited to play them either.

[Jason Moore]

That's reasonable. In Seattle. It's a tough place to play. Last week was an outlier situation.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

That being said, I agree with the Jameson Crowder one week pump. Do you think that, do you come back to Jameson Crowder the week after which with Jordan Reed's limitations, it's very possible.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Like we got to see what he can do. Let's see if we can get back to back anything. But. But I'm highly skeptical, highly doubtful that Jameson Crowder will. And I thought of this. Jason, we had talked about this earlier, but guys who bet on themselves, Alshon and Terrell Pryor, they're losing the bet.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I wouldn't say Alshon's losing the bet, but he's not having an otherworldly year.

[Mike Wright]

But when you go one year, when you take a one year deal on yourself, you're betting that you're going to have a great year so you can get a monster contract. He's not going to get a monster.

[Jason Moore]

I think Alison will absolutely get a monster. You do 100%.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Alison Jeffries helping a team to seven and one. Terrell Pryor is not helping a team at all. To whatever.

[Mike Wright]

You know, he's keeping the bench warm.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And that doesn't get you paid. Paul Richardson, Alshon, Jeffrey, Jameson Crowder are the pump the brakes candidates for this week. That was pump the brakes with O'Reilly Auto Parts. Better parts, better prices. Every single Day. Let's talk news.

[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the NFL.

[Mike Wright]

The fantasy football continues in real life.

[Jason Moore]

Unbelievable. Kelvin Benjamin is now a Buffalo Bill wide receiver. The Panthers shipped him off. And the reasoning is comedic to me. I mean, when you hear the GM talk about trading Calvin Benjamin, it was to quote, open the box for the running backs. Do they think he was like running 3 or 4 yards laying down?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

How do you getting in the way?

[Andy Holloway]

How do you open the box? By hurting your passing game where now people can stack the box.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Devin Funches is. Now let's start with the Panthers side of this trade. You lose Kelvin Benjamin and I think a narrative is that the passing game or the running game, slash passing game with Christian McCaffrey will get even more work. And it's true. I mean, Christian McCaffrey's target totals are almost locked and loaded. But he's been, and I say this nicely, a terrible running back.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. As a runner, he's dead last.

[Jason Moore]

Pro Football Focus ranks him dead last in yards after contact. As a running back, the eighth pick in the draft, he's been atrocious. Jonathan Stewart hasn't been efficient to the point where Cameron Artist Payne was getting wrapped.

[Mike Wright]

Well, we know the problem.

[Jason Moore]

Kelvin Benjamin.

[Mike Wright]

It was Kelvin Benjamin's fault.

[Andy Holloway]

Get rid of Kelvin. Open up that running lane.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Kelvin Benjamin so big he had. You could have put him on the O line to help the running the running game. Now they ship him off and now Devin Funches. So what is Devin Funch's rest of the season? The targets are going to be there. Greg Olson is going to come back in a week or two.

[Mike Wright]

But that's the, that's the big thing is when Greg Olson comes back and Christian McCaffrey is still just a sponge for all those targets. Devin Funches moved from the full strength. When the Panthers are full strength, the fourth option to the third option, which is not very, it's. It's not super exciting. It does certainly move him up. He's. He becomes that weekly, you know, high end wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

Three for Funches. Yeah, he's such a.

[Mike Wright]

He has touchdown upside.

[Jason Moore]

That's what I was gonna say. He's such a goal line threat on a team that cannot run the ball right now.

[Mike Wright]

But wouldn't now you take Kelvin Benjamin out of that equation as the goal line threat as well? So I mean, it moves him up certainly, in my opinion.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I think Funches is an absolute must grab try to acquire.

[Mike Wright]

So you're, you're loving it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, don't, don't mistake that. That's not saying I think he's going to be a wide receiver one Scrumptious Funchus. But what I do think is he's going to have many primary targets. You know, he will be the guy that now he's already been, you know, averaging about eight targets a game and he's been the number two. I think he will be the primary wide receiver here. And that primary wide receiver will usually have enough value for fantasy to be a startable asset week in, week out. I'm not, I don't think he is going to be anywhere near a wide receiver one the rest of the way. But I think he'll be a solid weekly wide receiver too.

[Mike Wright]

So he's not Devin Scrumptious.

[Andy Holloway]

Devin Scrumptious.

[Jason Moore]

You're welcome.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I like it.

[Jason Moore]

The question at the end of the.

[Andy Holloway]

Day, you know, that's a winner. Can we get a ruling here, judge?

[Mike Wright]

Oh yeah, Judge Giamatti.

[Jason Moore]

Devin Scrumptious.

[Mike Wright]

Devin Scrumptious.

[Jason Moore]

I dig it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, baby.

[Jason Moore]

Look, Devin Scrumptious himself. Look, the question mark with him has been do you start him?

[Andy Holloway]

What has become of my life?

[Jason Moore]

Exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

That's all now.

[Jason Moore]

You don't have a question now.

[Andy Holloway]

It's just start him.

[Jason Moore]

Lots of requests for the Calvin Benjamin side. Travels now to buffalo on a 5 and 2 team Thursday night against the Jets. Could very well be a 6 and 2 team. I love the Buffalo Bills. Let me just. Yeah, like from a fanboy perspective right now, I am a huge Buffalo Bill fan. When a team can ship out big pieces and coach themselves to, I mean the amount of trash that Tyra Taylor has given. You know, there are people in the Buffalo organization right now who, like, as they win, are grimacing and angry because they hate and want to see him fail.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yes.

[Jason Moore]

And so here he is winning and they're, dang it, another win for Buffalo. And that's how they sound.

[Mike Wright]

Is this a major league situation?

[Jason Moore]

And listen, Kelvin Benjamin joins a team that has been successful with a great defense. Zay Jones has been. He needs help.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

He needs to be able to move outside. And that's what this move does. This moves Calvin Benjamin. I'm sorry, he needs to be able to move inside. Calvin Benjamin now is the X. Jones comes into the Z. He doesn't get jammed off the line. Let's keep trade. Cut Kelvin Benjamin. Right now.

[Andy Holloway]

I would trade Kelvin Benjamin because some people are believing that this is an upgrade for Kelvin. I think this is a Most definite downgrade for Kelvin Benjamin. As you know, sometimes you look at the Carolina offense, you think, okay, they don't throw the ball that much by comparison to, you know, the high flying teams. They, they trump the Buffalo Bills. Especially if you look at them passing specifically to the wide receiver position. And now like you said, there's, there's other options there. Does Kelvin come in and become that X? Yes. Does Kelvin come in and become that number one target? I don't know. Maybe. And if he does, how valuable is that?

[Jason Moore]

And Jason, just to go into what.

[Andy Holloway]

You'Re saying, the Bills have thrown the ball 44% of the time, lowest in the NFL.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, there. 196 attempts on the year Carolina was up at 270. And do you want Devin Scrumptious or do you want Calvin Benjamin?

[Andy Holloway]

I'd rather, that's a great question.

[Mike Wright]

I'd rather have Devin. But have you thought about this, Jason? What if they just have Kelvin Benjamin run all the tight end routes?

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, if they put him on the line and have him run out there, Mr. Super Duper necessary. But that's not what is going to happen. That's not what they've talked about doing. They should, they should. That's, that's not even a joke. That those routes are what Tyrod looks for. But before we move on from this piece of news, I do want to also throw out Curtis Samuel. Look in, you know the 2015 Carolina Panthers, they were missing Kelvin Benjamin and their number one target. Yes, it was Greg Olson, but right behind Greg Olson and probably the, you know, one of the most valuable fans.

[Mike Wright]

He was, he was the important part of, are a very, very important part of the offense.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, but Ted Ginn, that field stretching, super fast guy, that is what they, you know, were hoping to have in Curtis Samuel. You haven't seen much from him yet, but I'm flashed. I would be willing to take a flyer pickup on the waiver wire to say maybe he will gain a much more important role in the offense. Just at least keep him on your radar.

[Jason Moore]

Got to clear that box out. Got to clear it out. All right, that's what, maybe that's what they're saying.

[Mike Wright]

He can't get out. Yeah, he's not fast enough to get out of the way.

[Jason Moore]

He was playing inside there. I mean he was.

[Andy Holloway]

Can't stretch the field.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's talk about our favorite topic, law and order. All right. Ezekiel Elliott, the Southern District Court of New York denied a request for an emergency injunction. This is a round and Round we go. Situation where Zeke is appealing after, you know, then the NFL appeals.

[Andy Holloway]

There's one last time. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

One more decision. Hopefully we'll receive it by 4pm today. Our time, 7pm Eastern. And this is from the second circuit. If this one fails for Zeke, it's done, it's over.

[Andy Holloway]

You're suspended. You're gone for six games, Zeke. And the truth is, I mean, we don't know. We'll know soon, but I don't expect it to go in Zeke's favor. I believe Zeke will be suspended for six games. We'll find out soon enough.

[Mike Wright]

I expect him to be suspended.

[Jason Moore]

I expect him to. Whatever happens, there to be some sort of appeal by somebody.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. No matter what. We're taking this to the Supreme Court.

[Jason Moore]

Bruce Arians now says he expects David Johnson to miss the remainder of the year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that sounds about right.

[Jason Moore]

So we didn't know. I think Carson Palmer, going down the trajectory of the team, it lends itself to David Johnson sitting. Danny Woodhead has resumed practicing.

[Andy Holloway]

Gonna need that button over there.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, oh. We got breaking news.

[Andy Holloway]

We sure do. Breaking news. The Patriots have done it again. And Hoyer. Yep. They have signed Brian Hoyer as the backup officially.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that was. That was pretty much a foregone conclusion. He was supposed to be in the trade. And, yeah, the Patriots, they take care of business. Welcome back. Brian Hoyer. Josh Gordon's meeting with the NFL to discuss reinstatement. Is there a fantasy? I mean, are you. Are you looking to pick him up in any.

[Andy Holloway]

I would only pick him up in a dynasty league if he's not already picked up. Because in those leagues, you're, you know, you're rocking 26 right deep. You know, you're. You're picking up scrubs and hopefuls. And look, if he gets reinstated, I'm not sure that he's going. Even though he's still young, I'm not sure he's going to be valuable. So this is a true. You know, would you rather pick him up or. Well, not now after the trade deadline. But the. Calvin Johnson was, like, just as worthy of dynasty pickup, and I don't think it was a great dynasty pickup, but that's where I'd be looking for him.

[Jason Moore]

Brock Osweather is going to start this week in the NFL.

[Mike Wright]

Seriously?

[Jason Moore]

Yes. He's been named the starting quarterback for Week 9 against the Eagles.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Go Eagles.

[Mike Wright]

That.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Wow.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Eagles defense.

[Andy Holloway]

Honestly, I don't know that Brock Osweiler. I know Brock Osweiler is terrible. Has played poorly now for a career. I Still believe that his median where we've seen him most of the time is better than what we've seen out of Trevor Simeon for the last three or four weeks. Trevor Simeon has. He's not been a below average quarterback. He's been horrendous missing guys.

[Jason Moore]

The last few games have been full dumpster fire. Whereas Brock, Osweiler, he's just a smoldering dumpster at all times.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, if you're in a league that has punters, you better grab that Broncos punter because it's coming. We're talking six, six punts a game minimum, at least.

[Jason Moore]

Janoris Jenkins suspended by the Giants for a violation of team rules. That's an indefinite suspension. That hurts their secondary.

[Mike Wright]

Just to follow up on the Brock situation, would you pick up AJ Derby because of Brock? Because of Brock only throwing to the tight end situation.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, that being said, when he was, when he was last a Bronco, he did not. He, you know, he focused on DT and Emmanuel Sanders. But you are right. When he was a Texan, it was all tied in all the time.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

It's like a Aladdin thing. And then number four, Jason and myself will be there with you.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

That's darn New York.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Right, I guess we're getting into it.

[Mike Wright]

Let's do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Keep trade cut.

[Jason Moore]

Look, fantasy football is all about decision making. We're gonna help you try to make some decisions here with some big names, people that have been asked about a lot on Twitter and Facebook.

[Mike Wright]

Before we jump into that, just a reminder, trade deadlines are coming up. Make sure you know when your league's trade deadline is.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, absolutely. And if you need to bounce some more questions off of other people that are playing fantasy football, the Foot Clan. Oh, the best resource, the Foot Clan forums. You can check them [e-mail] Become a part of our listener community. Support the show. Get an extra episode every week. It's really easy. [e-mail] all right, the number one requests this week for keep trade cut, it's Ty Montgomery and Ty Hilton. So let's start with whoa.

[Andy Holloway]

Number one kind of means, like, there's one I want to recount.

[Jason Moore]

I said they're tied for the number.

[Andy Holloway]

One request I want to. I want to recount.

[Jason Moore]

Just like you guys are tied for the number two analysts on the show. You know, hey, we're second does that make more sense?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm happy with that.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not going to recount.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason. Oh, sorry. All right.

[Jason Moore]

Time Montgomery keep trade cut. What are we doing?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm still holding Ty Montgomery. He's a keep to me. He was injured. They had their buy. I want to see what that split is afterwards. But it is dangerous because the way. The same way that you hold him and then let's say they come out of their buy and he has that rollback, the alternative is still likely to where he comes out of the buy. And you know what? Aaron Jones has taken over as the primary running back, in which case you lost your opportunity to trade him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. This is the only reason to keep Tom Montgomery in your team right now is if you want to take a picture and hang it on the wall and remember the good times. At this point in time, I'm making the move. I'm going. I'm going for gold. I'm not doing the ifs and buts game with Ty Montgomery. This is not a player that has established himself, in my opinion, to the point where he's obviously got this role locked up as long as he's healthy.

[Andy Holloway]

So let me ask you this. Would you trade Time Montgomery for Isaiah Crowell?

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you trade Ty Montgomery for Alex Collins?

[Jason Moore]

I would.

[Andy Holloway]

How the mighty have fallen. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

What about you, Mike? You were the Time Montgomery truth or where do you stand on.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, I agree. I think Aaron Jones has taken that job and he's the better running back. Positionally, he's not as versatile, but he's a better running back.

[Jason Moore]

So if Aaron Rodgers was starting, then you would be easy to hold. But because you mix bad offense with. Here's what we do know. Tom Montgomery will never have the job by himself sans an injury to somebody else.

[Andy Holloway]

It's fair.

[Jason Moore]

And that the offense isn't very good.

[Mike Wright]

And that's what he had over everyone else in the league. Ty Montgomery, he was getting, you know, that 95% snap count.

[Jason Moore]

It's hard to let go, though.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it is.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so one one b t y Hilton, he is absolute 100% trait to me. He still has a name and has the big games where I think you can get something for him, especially in package deals. And I don't want Ty Montgomery on my team unless it's a dynasty or a long term keeper. I do not want Ty Montgomery on my team. I don't want to be tempted to start him for those games.

[Jason Moore]

You mean Ty Hilton?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yes. Sorry. Ty Hilton. I don't Want to be tempted to start him.

[Jason Moore]

It's Ty and Ty. So I understand the mistake.

[Andy Holloway]

I took out the. Or took out the decimals. Decimals. Period.

[Mike Wright]

You took out the decimals. Don't you know the Dewey Decimal system?

[Andy Holloway]

So you don't want him on my team because I don't want to be tempted to play him. You're going to end up with 1.5 points, two out of three weeks.

[Mike Wright]

Check this out. Okay, so we got Houston coming up for Hilton. Have we double checked this schedule here?

[Jason Moore]

All that, but I'm.

[Mike Wright]

All right. So in two weeks, Pittsburgh. No, thank you. Bye week.

[Andy Holloway]

That's three strikes. You're out.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, Tennessee.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Hey, go hit a home run.

[Mike Wright]

Jacksonville, Buffalo, Denver, Baltimore, Houston.

[Andy Holloway]

Whoa.

[Mike Wright]

No, thank.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you. Hey, if you hold Ty Hilton, then you get in four weeks, you get a good game.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe because 75% of the time he plays. Right now it's single digits. Yeah, two good games out of eight this year.

[Andy Holloway]

Trade him.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but I would trade him.

[Jason Moore]

And you're going to have to take. You're going to have to take less. He's single digits for two.

[Mike Wright]

If you can't trade him, are you trying to. Super Mario Kart, drop that banana into your waiver wire and see if someone slips on it.

[Jason Moore]

That is frightening.

[Andy Holloway]

I think you can always click the.

[Jason Moore]

Drop button on Ty Hilton. Terrifying.

[Mike Wright]

If I saw Hilton on the waiver wagon.

[Andy Holloway]

You're picking him up.

[Mike Wright]

It's Ty Hilton.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, yeah, but there's an opposite side of that. I mean, if the guy picks him up and he has a blow up game, you're gonna be like, I dropped Cy Hilton.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly. So are you willing to play?

[Jason Moore]

I'll just trade him for pennies on the dollar.

[Andy Holloway]

And one of the easiest ways to.

[Jason Moore]

Trade it for Nelson Aguilar.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think I would rather have a wiggler.

[Jason Moore]

I would do.

[Andy Holloway]

One of the things you could do because you're always going to be able to pick someone up off of the waiver wire is you take a look at your roster and you say, okay, I've got Isaiah Crowell, right? And maybe I can just improve Isaiah Crowell. Like if you like Alex Collins more, you like someone a little bit more and you say, I want to, you could package Ty Hilton with that guy and just upgrade the other guy that you're getting rid of a little bit as opposed to dropping them. Free up that roster spot, Pick someone up off of waivers. That's the way I like to get rid of dumpster fires.

[Jason Moore]

Good Good. Key trade cut.

[Mike Wright]

Don't put out a dumpster fire with a bucket of fire.

[Jason Moore]

No. We've learned that science is prevalent on the show and it's our decimals. Javorius Allen, Buck Allen, he's a big old trade to me. I want to move him and I want to move him quick. Danny Woodhead coming back. Collins flashing Javari salons share, which is what gives him value, is going down.

[Andy Holloway]

Unlike Ty Hilton and Ty Montgomery, where their arrow has just pointed to the ground, you still have value in Buck Allen. Buck Allen, you know, is getting in the teens carries he. His workload has not gone away. You can trade Buck Allen for something good and you should because I agree Alex Collins has taken over the primary role based on what we saw last week and Danny Woodhead is coming back. This is a situation that's going to get bad. He's 100% trade for me. I agree. Andy.

[Jason Moore]

Mike, he's.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think you have to trade him. The Danny Woodhead situation certainly throws a wrench. And when my. My gut reaction was, oh, you got to keep him. The Woodhead coming back certainly affects things, but he's. Even with Alex Collins being the better running back, he's still getting a bunch of touches. You know, 17 carries last week, even with the Collins domination the week before that, six. But eight receptions, 13 total touches the week before that. So he's still getting opportunity.

[Andy Holloway]

That's why you're going to be able to get value. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So I'm. I'm okay getting ahead of that curve with Woodhead coming back.

[Jason Moore]

Sammy Watkins keep. Trade cut. Redraft league.

[Andy Holloway]

I am. I am still keeping Sammy Watkins. I. I'm willing to.

[Jason Moore]

I'm willing to cut him.

[Mike Wright]

I'm willing to cut him, too.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, this. You guys unknowingly. You just cut. No, I know host.

[Mike Wright]

I knew what I was doing in.

[Andy Holloway]

The arm with a knife. I just felt. I felt the slice. Shame on you both.

[Mike Wright]

Here, here, Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll play that game on your houses.

[Mike Wright]

We'll play the game. He gets the Giants this week, but luckily for Watkins, Janoris Jenkins being disciplined by the team. But then Houston at Minnesota, the Saints, Patrick Peterson. I mean, those are his next four matchups.

[Jason Moore]

Did you avoid calling them the Cardinals?

[Mike Wright]

They're the passes. When I'm talking about number one wide receivers, they are the Patrick Petersons.

[Jason Moore]

All right, you're going to.

[Mike Wright]

Are you going to play him in any of those matchups?

[Andy Holloway]

I believe the talent as more do you have Watkins and the fact that unlike so Ty Hilton, super talented. Right. But does not have a quarterback that can get him the ball. The difference here is that I think.

[Mike Wright]

The quarterback doesn't want to get him the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that they don't have that rapport yet. And as the season goes on, I think it will come because talent will win.

[Mike Wright]

It's gone down.

[Jason Moore]

He's hitting the bricks, he's hitting the road. He's not even going to be on this team next year.

[Mike Wright]

He peaked in week three and since then, 17 yards. Zero. 11 yards. Ooh, 42.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

That's a reverse rapport.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, no, I, I get, I get the argument to cut him. I just, you know, some guys you.

[Mike Wright]

Just can't let go.

[Andy Holloway]

Some guys you can't quit. Sammy Watkins.

[Mike Wright]

That's fine.

[Jason Moore]

Joe Mix. I don't know how to trade cut guys. Joel, mix it.

[Mike Wright]

It's a keep.

[Andy Holloway]

100% keep.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. The touches are there. Yes. Keep, trade, cut. Wendell Smallwood, he's a cut for me. Big time cut.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, absolutely.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. With a Jay coming to town.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Ajayi Blunt. No way.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

He's. Yeah. You just put the big hook and pull him right off stage and you're done. Yeah. The vaudeville style. Tariq Cohen. Keep, trade, cut. Everybody, every week, everybody wants to ask me, do I start blank or Tarik Cohen? And my answer thus far has been blank. Yeah, blank. Except for this last week. You got the weird goal line carry. I don't want to start Tariq Cohen.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I don't really either. I think Tariq Cohen is still a guy that you can get value for in trades because of what he did early in the season and some of the, you know, the touchdown this last week. So if you can get something for him, I would.

[Mike Wright]

How do you have a player, just a rookie, a rookie running back explode in the NFL those first few games and then not figure out how to get him further involved? It's ridiculous.

[Andy Holloway]

He's had. In the last two weeks, he's had six combined touches.

[Mike Wright]

That's ridiculous.

[Andy Holloway]

So if.

[Mike Wright]

And I'm with you guys at this point, you got to move on from Cohen because John Fox and Mitchell Trubisky just like, eh.

[Jason Moore]

It's a totally different situation than it was early in the year when he was succeeding.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. He's a special teams guy predominantly.

[Jason Moore]

Here's an important one. Keep, trade, cut. Will Fuller.

[Andy Holloway]

What?

[Jason Moore]

I think that's a super important question.

[Andy Holloway]

You think it's important because trader, keep. Obviously you're not cutting Fuller.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Because it's. Do you cash in on the number one point per game fantasy wide out my gut.

[Andy Holloway]

So touchdown depending my gut 100% says keep. I want him on my team. He has a keep to me. However, I have seen this last week trades on Twitter, genuine questions, people saying, hey, should I, should I trade Will Fuller for, you know, dark alley? Yeah, that's exactly.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, yeah, hey, bro, over here.

[Jason Moore]

Got any of that Fuller?

[Andy Holloway]

And it's trades where it's like Will Fuller and a garbage running back for Devonta Freeman. Oh, this is not a question.

[Mike Wright]

Make the trade.

[Andy Holloway]

You got to make the trade. So I will say the importance of the question is you should shop Will Fuller to see if you're getting the crazy value. If you can turn Will Fuller into a high volume reliable receiver or a any kind of studly running back, I would do that in good leagues. You probably can't, but I would. I would at least shop him, but he's worth having.

[Jason Moore]

Mike, you got outbid on Kenyan drake. I saw by $1 by your opponent this week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I already messaged him. I said, josh, tip of the cap. He played the game where you make you check your opponent. How much fab do they have? Do they need to make a move? So, I mean, that was a great fantasy football move by Josh. And I also want to share a.

[Andy Holloway]

This is the biggest man I've ever seen.

[Mike Wright]

You be a special shout out here to Charles Clay for being marked out the minute after waivers ran. Thanks, Charles Clay.

[Jason Moore]

And you say that because Charles Clay was on your bench, couldn't get moved to IR because he was a Q.

[Mike Wright]

That is that. No, he was a D. He was a doubtful.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, so now maybe you need to thank ESPN for that one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, thanks. Thanks, everyone.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

I really appreciate it.

[Jason Moore]

Let's talk about Charles Clay's team. He is out tonight, by the way. Thursday Night Football. He's out tomorrow actually as well when they actually play. All right. Thursday Night Football. The Bills, the forever Tyrod Taylor. Absolutely love him as a start this week. He's my stream of the week. I tried to buy him on waivers. I did not acquire him on waivers. Did my best. LaShawn McCoy locked and loaded. What do you do with Calvin Benjamin? You willing to start him week one against this Jets 2020 ranked pasty?

[Mike Wright]

If you're a team that's been relying on Kelvin Benjamin and the options behind him on your team are rough, I'm still willing to play him. I just, I'm not expecting huge things, but I do think that he is a, an upgrade for that team. And I would expect Tyrod to at least go, hey, let's go, bro. Let's. Let's get at least a few receptions going here. Which, you know that could be a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean you're hoping for the touchdown or you're hoping for the long bomb. I mean you're expecting probably three receptions, which is a guy that you're not going to want to start. So unless you've got garbage on your team, there's always a point with these guys where it's like, okay, my other options are worse and then you can make a start. But in general, I would very much like to look elsewhere. This is. Not only is it a new team, but it's a new team in a crazy short amount of time. Short week. I'd like to look elsewhere.

[Mike Wright]

But his best play is being big.

[Andy Holloway]

That's always true. And he can be big in Carolina or in Buffalo.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, any team.

[Mike Wright]

He could be big.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's a large man.

[Jason Moore]

Can you imagine him with Brock Osweiler?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man, they would just throw it on a line way up here and you just, you don't have to jump all these little corners.

[Jason Moore]

I would hire that tan was to paint the trim on my house.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah, I would do that.

[Jason Moore]

I would hire them quick, two story even.

[Mike Wright]

They just go shoulders. Yeah, imagine, imagine that you have vaulted ceilings. Not a problem for Brock and Kelvin. We don't need ladders.

[Andy Holloway]

That's why we're so much cheaper.

[Jason Moore]

That's their sales pitch. All right, Josh McCann, you willing to play him today against this Bills D? They're not great against the pass.

[Mike Wright]

They probably willingness.

[Andy Holloway]

I am willing to stream him. I don't expect him to be great, but you know, if you're looking in a two quarterback league, I think he's going to be all right. He's at home. The Bills defense has been pretty Good, but Josh McCown, if you look at.

[Mike Wright]

His last, he has been good as well.

[Andy Holloway]

He's been excellent.

[Jason Moore]

Rule 15.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, when he's healthy, you play.

[Jason Moore]

When you. No, when he's healthy and able. Oh, healthy and able.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not, I'm not making an official.

[Mike Wright]

Rule, but okay, so here's, I'm going to throw out some names. This is a, this is my money league. So just to see who's available.

[Andy Holloway]

Asking for a friend?

[Mike Wright]

No, no, I already know who I'm playing.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

But this is what's available on the waiver wire. If you were to stream Josh McCown, Jacoby Brissette against Houston, Andy Dalton against Jacksonville, Brock against Philly.

[Andy Holloway]

So far it's Josh McCown by a mile.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I'm saying that. Yeah, your waiver wire. If it looks similar to mine, you might be playing Josh McCown.

[Jason Moore]

Forte and Powell take on the Bills third ranked run defense. What are we doing there?

[Mike Wright]

You're hoping that Josh McKeown passes them a ball.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's really tough.

[Jason Moore]

So Forte still over pound?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I would. Yeah, I prefer Forte.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Yeah, I think I prefer Forte as well.

[Mike Wright]

I prefer him.

[Andy Holloway]

I prefer tay. I put it all together but last week blel Powell had 14 carries to Matt Forte's four carries. Sure. The lead back was Powell and because this is a short week, I don't know that the health is going to turn around. I. I think I no longer prefer Tay. Oh, I preferl prefer Blel Powell. Oh, I had to put those together.

[Jason Moore]

Cut the mic, Brooks. Jermaine Curse or Robbie Anderson tonight if you need one.

[Mike Wright]

Robbie.

[Andy Holloway]

Robbie's been on fire. Robbie.

[Jason Moore]

It's so funny because I feel like I was making an argument.

[Mike Wright]

Wait, hold on. Is Jermaine curse even? No, I thought curse was suspended.

[Jason Moore]

No, I'll confirm. I think it was curly.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, curly. Okay, I apologize.

[Jason Moore]

Jermaine Curse. I was making the argument for Robbie Anderson like two weeks ago and you guys were talking about how much you love Jermaine curse, but now you're back on Robbie Anderson just we're interested in.

[Mike Wright]

Curse but Robbie Anderson's what have you.

[Jason Moore]

Done for me lately?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's on fire.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean you curse has had three receptions in the last two games combined. Robbie Anderson hasn't had fewer than three receptions in the in that time span. He's got nine over over the last two games.

[Mike Wright]

Savarian Jenkins, especially with the bipoc lips is a tight end one.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, let's. Let's get into the mailbag.

[Andy Holloway]

Mailbag.

[Jason Moore]

All right. 470 shows later, it's still funny. If you have a question for the show, you go to the website the fancyfootballers.com click the submit a question button. You can also dial our voicemail hotline. That is 302-464-TFF B. We're going to jump right into a voicemail question. See what you guys think. Hey buyers, this is Jake in Seattle. I got the age old Mick Spadden and Morris Question Part 2. I don't really trust either of them. I have both of them and I kind of like to ship them off. Who are some good trade targets that might not be Flashy names, but people might be buying into the hype of the backups on the Cowboys team. I was thinking Jerick McKinnon, just because he's on by, but I even think he might be too high of a reach. I'd love to know what you guys think. Thanks. What do you guys think? I mean, McKinnon's a great target.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. The fact that he's on by could help you get this deal done if you have someone else to plug into that.

[Jason Moore]

Did you ship both the backups over?

[Mike Wright]

Yes. For McKinnon, certainly.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'd be willing to do that. There's. I mean, if you're not getting a locked and loaded kind of somewhat star, I don't really want to ship them out. If you look, this is going to take you, Alfred Morris and Darren McFadden. If you've got both, they're going to take you all the way up to the championship game. You'll have. I mean, that Zeke would be back week 16. But I mean, that's. That's fine. Like, I want to get to the championship game.

[Jason Moore]

Can't take you. You need to pick one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's the problem. But if you have both timeshare. If it's a timeshare, then what you're going to see is Dallas completely changing who they are and how they've operated with this regime for no reason. I mean, they'll both be involved a little bit, but one guy will be the predominant runner here. Of that I am. Right. I will be shocked.

[Mike Wright]

But the thing is that one guy has always been able to be a pass catcher. And allegedly, according to Jerry Jones, Alfred Morris is going to be.

[Jason Moore]

Wouldn't you rather just have Jerick McKinnon locked and loaded for the last six weeks?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, that's what I'm saying. If you can get a. A star, great. I mean, because then Jericho, without injury, he's still there in week 16.

[Mike Wright]

Let me throw out a couple names because these are the guys I think you might actually be able to get because I don't think you're going to get like a Freeman or Ingram or even a Jordan Howard for that combo. So would you trade them for Alvin Camara?

[Andy Holloway]

That's a great question. I think I would not.

[Jason Moore]

I would. In a p. In a half or full. I would.

[Andy Holloway]

Full point ppr. Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Duke Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, I wouldn't do that.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. C.J. anderson.

[Jason Moore]

No, no.

[Mike Wright]

See, I mean, like, that's what. After that, you start getting into just a level of guy.

[Jason Moore]

You wouldn't Adrian Peterson.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I'd rather have.

[Mike Wright]

I'd rather have the Dallas Cowboys.

[Jason Moore]

And just to correct you, Jason, he'll.

[Andy Holloway]

Be back for week 15. Raiders. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Not quite championship week.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you, judge.

[Jason Moore]

Assuming, of course, he's suspended, which, by the way. Yeah. You being a judge, it would be nice if you could shed some very legalese, technical legal insight on this situation.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's take the suspension. Let's get it over with.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you're giving advice. You're like one of those TV judges that has a message.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, are we gonna get it?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's so loud.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, not loud enough. Had the. Had the volume up for the.

[Mike Wright]

For the mailbag.

[Jason Moore]

The old mailbag. Sorry about that. Everyone on Earth. Here's another mailbag question.

[Mike Wright]

Everyone on Earth.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I have a trade on the docket right now. Todd Gurley for Crabtree and Alvin Camara. I also have Leonard Fournette. Ooh, I could really use the receiver help because I have Demarious Thomas. Thank you very much. You guys are great. Bye.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, so he's receiving Crabtree and Camaro.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what it seems like, yes.

[Jason Moore]

It's very, very interesting because Crabtree right now, I believe, is the wide receiver 6. He's actually putting up better points per game than A.J. green, which Jason illuminated for me a couple of days ago because he's a beast. And you have Fournette, so you don't. It's not like you're shipping out all of your, you know, monster running back assets.

[Mike Wright]

And we did run over the Trick or Treat Halloween special of Todd Gurley's fantasy playoff schedule.

[Jason Moore]

I would think about if it's a half point league or a full point league, I would do it.

[Andy Holloway]

I was going to say the scoring format is going to be what makes a difference to me because if you upgrade your wide receiver the same that you downgrade your running back, you're not actually helping your team. And in a standard league, I think you're going to be downgrading to Alvin Camara quite a bit from Gurley. But if it's a ppr, that downgrade won't be drastic and Crabtree will be worth more. So, yeah, I think if. If you're a standard league, don't do it. If you're getting points for receptions, then I'd pull the trigger.

[Jason Moore]

Camara's been very, very reliable.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. In any kind of half point or full point leagues.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. In the last three weeks, 10 carries, nine carries, eight carries.

[Andy Holloway]

In half point scoring, he's got double digits for 5, 5 consecutive weeks, who.

[Jason Moore]

Would you rather have rest of season, Camara or McKinnon?

[Andy Holloway]

McKinnon.

[Jason Moore]

McKinnon, yeah, they're very similar though. But McCaber Camara is kind of like McKinnon light right now with the like seven, eight carries plus the receptions. All right, Joe in Tampa wants to know with Greg Olson returning to practice, would you grab him if he's available before he gets snatched up later?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think I would. Now, based on the Kelvin trade, Greg Olson will, you know, take over that Mr. Necessary role rest of season.

[Jason Moore]

Question from Jared in Iowa, who would you rather take? Doug Martin, C.J.

[Mike Wright]

Anderson, Rest of season.

[Jason Moore]

Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

It's got to be Doug Martin.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, got to be Doug Martin.

[Andy Holloway]

You've got a guy getting, you know, the vast majority of work versus C.J. anderson. As much as I love him and as good a running back as he is, he's in a three headed timeshare that's killing his fantasy value.

[Jason Moore]

Blake in St. Louis wants to know, would you trade Will Fuller for Ty Hilton?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

No, I would not.

[Andy Holloway]

No. But you know what I would do? I would trade Ty Hilton for Will Fuller. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So good on the other person for offering that trade.

[Jason Moore]

That's the kind of trade we were talking about earlier. All right, Jason in Spokane asking for what would you rather have a who would you rather have in rest of season? Dynasty, full ppr, Isaiah Corral or Alex Collins?

[Andy Holloway]

Wait, so dynasty, full ppr, but who.

[Jason Moore]

Do you want rest of season with that consideration?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you have to throw the dynasty part out, but rest of season I'd rather have Collins.

[Jason Moore]

Well, what if you don't throw it out, do you? I mean, I take cruel in both circumstances. Corral's coming off of his best week of the year fantasy production wise. Collins is going to be in a muddy backfield.

[Mike Wright]

Crowell's coming off of a 25 yard touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Correct. That counts for just if you want.

[Mike Wright]

To have that one run change the entire season for Crowell.

[Jason Moore]

Crowell's baseline hasn't been death though. I mean Crowell, this was his first.

[Andy Holloway]

Game and a half point scoring format where he was double digits of the year and we're pretty deep in. I do agree. If it's a dynasty and you care about long term prospects, I don't think Alex Collins has the same long term prospects that Crowell has.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And let's go ahead and move to Zach in his front office pretending he's working straight to the point this week. Alshon underperforming Jeffrey or Buck Allen for the flex spot. Jason, you said you would sit Jeffrey this week. So you're Buck Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

I am Buck Allen. They've got the Tennessee.

[Mike Wright]

I am Buck Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

I am Buck Allen.

[Mike Wright]

I am Spartacus situation.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, look, you're at, you're at Tennessee. They're going to be a great defense to play against.

[Mike Wright]

Danny Woodhead's not back this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

So you're still.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. I think you get a little buck nasty and put them in your lineup.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. All right, that is it for today's episode. I do want to remind you guys this is something really cool. Coming up, the first annual World Series of Fantasy from our studio sponsor draft.

[Andy Holloway]

We're going to be there and at least two thirds of us, Holloway and myself.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we will be there. We'll be what mc and calling the final draft.

[Mike Wright]

Just looking pretty.

[Jason Moore]

It's really, really cool.

[Andy Holloway]

Commending your picks, making fun of other people's picks.

[Jason Moore]

It's an eight person draft tournament that culminates with the World Series of Fantasy final draft in New York City. And if you make that final table, you get accommodations and airfare to go to New York to take part in the final draft, to take part in the watch party.

[Andy Holloway]

Watch football with us.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Going to be there. And I would like the Foot Clan to represent the ones representing. So sign up.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely. We'll get into the matchups for week nine tomorrow and Friday. Thanks for tuning in. We'll catch you then.

[Mike Wright]

See you later, Footland. Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

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