Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Dynasty / Keeper Mailbag, News

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary
Episode: Dynasty / Keeper Mailbag, News
Release Date: April 21, 2015

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Introduction

The Fantasy Footballers kick off the April 21, 2015 episode with their characteristic humor and camaraderie. Hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright set a lively tone despite Mike's humorous admission of being on "the legal kind" of drugs, referring to over-the-counter medications like Zyrtec and Dayquil (00:15).

News and Notes

Antonio Brown's Contract Situation

The trio dives into the latest buzz surrounding Antonio Brown (ODB). Andy highlights that Mike Garofalo reports Brown is seeking a raise and may hold out despite having signed a substantial two-year contract earlier (02:43).

• Jason Moore emphasizes, "This is no news. He’s going to, I’m not going to hold out for a little while in the offseason, but he’ll get a good contract next year" (03:06).
• Mike Wright cautions fantasy managers not to overreact, asserting that Brown remains a top-tier running back with consistent performance (03:19).

Tim Tebow's NFL Status

Next, the conversation shifts to Tim Tebow, mocked humorously as a perennial "breaking news" item in the NFL.

• Jason Moore quips, "He shattered the mold... Tim Tebow is now a QB5 in the NFL" (03:45).
• The hosts humorously discuss Tebow’s lack of lasting impact, underscoring his role as a preseason player with minimal regular-season presence (04:03).

Zach Ertz's Offseason Training

Zach Ertz updates the listeners on his offseason program focusing on improving his blocking skills with the Eagles' offensive line coach, a move that could increase his snap participation from 50% to potentially 70-80%.

• Jason Moore emphasizes the significance of this development for Ertz's fantasy value, citing insights from Eagles Insider Andrew Goldwasser (05:10).
• Andy Holloway agrees, noting that a higher snap count would bolster Ertz’s reliability without diminishing his current fantasy worth (05:48).

Adrian Peterson Trade Speculation

Adam Kaplan suggests that the Vikings would require at least a first-round pick—possibly more—for trading Adrian Peterson. The hosts express skepticism, believing that Peterson could still be traded without excessive compensation.

• Jason Moore references pre-draft implications, questioning the necessity of the high trade demands (06:10).
• Mike Wright reiterates confidence in Peterson's trade potential, dismissing Kaplan's assessment as "poppycock" (06:28).

Partnership with Audible.com

Mike announces a collaboration with Audible.com, offering listeners a free audiobook when they visit audibletrial.com/thefantasyfootballers.

• Andy Holloway encourages listeners to take advantage of the offer, suggesting titles like Matthew Berry’s Fantasy Life or Cormac McCarthy’s The Road (06:55).

Mailbag

The mailbag segment is packed with listener questions focusing on dynasty and keeper leagues. Here's a breakdown of notable inquiries and the hosts' insights:

Dan's Keeper League Dilemma (08:04)

Question: In a PPR 12-team keeper league, with the option to keep two players from the fourth and fifth rounds among ODB, Ty Hilton, DeAndre Hopkins, or Justin Forsett, whom should he choose?

• Jason Moore: "I like ODB and four-set. I would rather have the running back than a good wide receiver."
• Mike Wright concurs, favoring ODB and Erik, highlighting their consistent value (09:03).
• Andy Holloway concludes that ODB and four-set are the optimal choices to "win your league, Dan" (09:41).

Peter M's Dynasty Outlook on Michael Floyd (09:48)

Question: What is the dynasty outlook for Michael Floyd in 2015 and beyond?

• Mike Wright praises Floyd's potential resurgence under Carson Palmer and Bruce Arians, envisioning him as an elite fantasy receiver (10:17).
• Andy Holloway expresses caution, noting that the dynasty outlook hinges on Palmer’s tenure and potential quarterback changes in the future (11:25).
• Jason Moore agrees, suggesting patience with Floyd's performance this year but advising potential future unloading (12:18).

John M's Keeper Selection Strategy (12:30)

Question: In a non-PPR 12-team, three-keeper league with keeper costs ranging from first to third-round picks, should he prioritize roster construction or best player value among Demarius Thomas, Alshon Jeffery, Rob Gronkowski, Shady McCoy, Eddie Lacy?

• Jason Moore advocates for the best player value, selecting Eddie Lacy and Rob Gronkowski as top keepers (13:37).
• Andy Holloway agrees, emphasizing the positional advantage of securing two running backs and a top-tier tight end (13:38).
• Jason highlights flexibility, especially if a running back drops to a favorable draft spot (15:29).

Dynasty Delight's WR Decision: Jimmy Graham vs. Travis Kelsey vs. Jeremy Hill (15:54)

Question: In a PPR dynasty league, should he keep Jimmy Graham and Ty Hilton or Travis Kelsey and Jeremy Hill?

• Jason Moore prefers Kelsey and Hill for their youth and long-term potential, advocating for younger talent in dynasty formats (16:55).
• Mike Wright also leans towards Kelsey and Hill, citing their ability to outperform and fit into future team structures (17:00).
• Andy Holloway supports Kelsey and Hill, balancing positional needs and future flexibility (16:25).

Hillary Clinton's Keeper Selection Challenge (18:13)

Question: In a 10-team PPR league with quarterbacks earning 6 points per touchdown, JD seeks advice on keeping three players with no round penalties from a roster including Calvin Johnson, Peyton Manning, Rob Gronkowski, DeAndre Hopkins, Emmanuel Sanders, Mike Evans, Jeremy Hill, Mike Wallace, Fred Jackson, Jordan Matthews, Josh Gordon.

• Mike Wright suggests keeping Jeremy Hill, Rob Gronkowski, and Calvin Johnson, emphasizing their high PPR value (38:10).
• Jason Moore concurs, advocating for a balanced approach with top performers in key positions (38:49).
• Andy Holloway echoes this sentiment, noting the importance of aligning with a three wide receiver starting lineup (39:13).

Patty Cakes' Complex Keeper Lottery Question (40:09)

Question: In a unique keeper lottery system, Patty Cakes must select one franchise player and three additional keepers, with two being randomly retained. Options include Le'Veon Bell, Shady McCoy, Vincent Jackson, AJ Green, Andre Williams, Rashad Jennings.

• Andy Holloway and Mike Wright debate the merits of securing a dependable quarterback like AJ Green versus riskier running backs like Le'Veon Bell (41:54).
• Jason Moore emphasizes risk mitigation, preferring Le'Veon Bell to ensure at least one star running back remains (43:07).

Bruce Springsteen's Keeper Options (27:53)

Question: Presented with options in a PPR league, Bruce seeks advice on managing Trey Mason, Isaiah Crowell, and a trio from Tampa Bay.

• The hosts humorously engage with Springsteen, addressing the complexities of keeping versatile running backs in challenging divisions (28:31).
• Jason Moore ultimately recommends favoring Trey Mason due to his clear role and potential (29:26).

JJ Abrams' Draft Decision: Des for a First or Alshon Jeffery in the Fourth Round (44:34)

Question: Should JJ Abrams keep Des (likely Dez Bryant) in the first round or Alshon Jeffery in the fourth?

• Jason Moore advocates for Alshon Jeffery in the fourth round for better overall value and positional flexibility (44:47).
• Mike Wright agrees, citing Alshon's lower risk and higher return (45:04).
• Andy Holloway supports taking Alshon to preserve earlier-round picks (45:50).

Review of the Week

The hosts share a glowing five-star review from Thepasher W:

"Dudes, dudes. Great show, great info, great entertainment, great value."

Mike proudly reads the review, highlighting the show's excellent reception among listeners (46:31).

Conclusion

As the episode wraps up, the Fantasy Footballers tease upcoming content, including a mock draft episode and a rookie preview to prepare listeners for the NFL draft season. They also announce the launch of their new YouTube channel, aiming to provide video podcasts and enhance their content delivery (48:37).

The hosts maintain their trademark humor right to the end, with playful banter and light-hearted jokes, ensuring listeners are both informed and entertained.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jason Moore on Zach Ertz’s Potential: "There could not be a better piece of news to come out this offseason for me to my value of Zach Ertz." (05:10)
• Andy Holloway on Dynasty Outlook: "This is a make or break year for him in general as a fantasy-producing receiver." (11:25)
• Jason Moore on Kickers: "I believe the kicker position is dead in my heart." (34:47)
• Mike Wright on Keeper Strategy: "I’m taking Bell, and I’m gonna put the receivers into the lottery." (42:23)

Timestamps Reference:

• 00:00 – Podcast start and humorous introductions
• 02:43 – Antonio Brown’s contract news
• 03:45 – Tim Tebow’s NFL status
• 05:10 – Zach Ertz’s offseason training
• 08:04 – Dan’s keeper league question begins
• 18:13 – Hillary Clinton’s keeper selection query
• 40:09 – Patty Cakes' keeper lottery question
• 27:53 – Bruce Springsteen’s keeper options
• 44:34 – JJ Abrams’ draft decision
• 46:31 – Five-star listener review
• 48:37 – Conclusion and future episode teasers

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For more insights, strategies, and to participate in future mailbags, listeners are encouraged to visit thefantasyfootballers.com and connect via Twitter at @ffballers.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Foreign.

[Jason Moore]

To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to yet another beautiful edition of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. It is April 21st and Mike is on drugs.

[Mike Wright]

The legal kind that make you better, my friends.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Zyrtec Dayquil Chloraseptic spray.

[Andy Holloway]

You have a lozenge in your mouth as well.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Yeah. I apologize if you can hear that clicking. I did ultimate damage on an economy sized bag of cough drops today, man. But I'm here for you, the listener. And if I start ranting about Doug Martin being an RB one, someone just put me down.

[Jason Moore]

We'll track you in there.

[Andy Holloway]

Be that to the Dayquil. All right, well, we got a good show for you today. Have some news and notes we're gonna go through. Also. This is a mailbag show mailbag. Oh, that's. Are you trying to fill in for a sick brother here?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm sick. I gotta.

[Andy Holloway]

Not bad, not bad. Yeah, we're. We're gonna answer questions from the listeners all over the world. These are the best, I mean that world. Because we had our Scott, our Scottish friend, email us last week.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Bonjour to our Scottish friend.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know. You know, Mike, you might need to leave. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

If you have a question of your own this off season or heading into the season, we answer them on the show. A bunch of them came in on twitterffballers so you can tweet the ffballers and we'll answer the questions on the show. You can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com there's a link on there to submit a question and always we ask that you give us a nice review. Itunes subscribe to the show.

[Mike Wright]

They really help the show people.

[Andy Holloway]

So any, any other bits of information?

[Jason Moore]

I'm just, I'm just really excited to do the show. I. I have missed everybody over the weekend and I think it's time we move to a seven day a week show, morning and night. What do you guys think? Are you in seven days?

[Mike Wright]

14.

[Jason Moore]

14 shows a day.

[Andy Holloway]

We're really kicking Mic. Stop talking Dayquil. Well, I guess I'll just start our news and notes.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league.

[Andy Holloway]

That's called damage control. You just try to prevent Mike from getting something else out the damage control. Not a lot of news going on.

[Mike Wright]

Speaking of damage control, first bit of news.

[Andy Holloway]

You're overreacting to this, but Mike Garofalo says Antonio Brown wants a raise and is considering a holdout. Well, yeah, he's really good. He probably deserves a Raise.

[Mike Wright]

Well, not considering that he just signed a big contract for him two years ago.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but this is the NFL.

[Jason Moore]

This is no news. This is no, he's going to, I'm not going to hold out for a little while in the off season come and he'll get a good contract next year.

[Andy Holloway]

He's just going to miss some of this OTA time. Yeah, but I mean, I guess in the, in the context of fantasy football, you'd rather hear and hear something that isn't this for your player.

[Mike Wright]

Let's say he misses some camp. You still draft him in the exact same spot?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, exact same.

[Andy Holloway]

I do. And you know, he's, he's that born and bred superstar that knows what he's doing. If it was somebody else, if it was, you know, a rookie or somebody coming in like that, I'd be more concerned, but I'm not too concerned. He is really, really good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. If it comes the day before your draft and he hasn't showed up to anything, I don't know, maybe move him down a spot, but I'm not worried. Breaking news.

[Mike Wright]

Whoa.

[Jason Moore]

This is Tim Tebow signing.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's always breaking. Haven't you ever watched the television when Tim Tebow's around? It is always breaking news. Tim Tebow is now a QB5 in the NFL.

[Mike Wright]

He shattered the mold.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's. He got signed.

[Mike Wright]

Good for you.

[Andy Holloway]

Fantastic second straight preseason in which he got brought in, right?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, because he's a perfect player to bring in for preseason because he's going to have a great attitude, be a great locker room guy. You need guys to throw the ball during the ESPN and then he'll go back to ESPN and will not be on a roster in the regular.

[Mike Wright]

Question for you, do you care to wager another water bet on Tim Tebow making the team? What was. I don't remember what it was last year, but something like 100 snaps for the Patriots.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, I'm not making another Tebow.

[Mike Wright]

I was willing to bet zero. But you went to 100.

[Andy Holloway]

Did I do 100 snaps?

[Mike Wright]

It was something.

[Andy Holloway]

This is embarrassing.

[Mike Wright]

It was much higher than the zero that I was ready to.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't. But it would in much more relevant fantasy football. Eagle related news. Zach Ertz has spent a couple weeks in the off season program working with the former Cowboys offensive line coaching. Basically we just want him on the field more. So he's very important. He's got the message that he needs to do that. So it doesn't mean anything till we see it. But if Zach Ertz is okay.

[Jason Moore]

So let's literally there could not be a better piece of news to come out this offseason for me to my value of Zach Ertz. There's nothing I could wish for more because we can't know that he's actually better at blocking. But that's clearly. You know, when we had Andrew Goldwasser on the show, the Eagles Insider, he was talking about Zach Ertz is great. Everybody loves him, everybody wants him there. But the problem is they're such a high power, fast paced offense and he can't block, so he can't play and be in on snaps. And so the, the fact that he is out there working on blocking actually means maybe he'll get up to 70% of snaps and that's huge.

[Andy Holloway]

If Zach hurts is on the field in the 75, 80% range. I love him, you love him.

[Jason Moore]

And his draft stock is still not.

[Andy Holloway]

What did he have about 800 yards.

[Mike Wright]

Last year still around there.

[Andy Holloway]

I can't remember exactly what the total was, but he, you know, he was the second highest tight end in terms of down the field. You know, distance on behind my boy, Kobe Fleener. Yeah, your dropsy boy, Kobe Fleener. Last bit of news here. Adam Kaplan says it'll take at least a first round pick and maybe more compensation for the Vikings to trade Adrian Pete. Poppycock is poppycock that that anyone would do that or that Both. I still think you could get traded. He's just got a not show up and cause a problem.

[Mike Wright]

Then the there was a new newer bit that said if they don't trade him next week, he's not getting traded.

[Andy Holloway]

Based on pre draft.

[Jason Moore]

Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

Saying needs to be a pre draft.

[Mike Wright]

As in saying the Vikings want a pick this year for him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

[Andy Holloway]

A lot of speculation. It would be interesting to see him in another destination, but we all agree he'll probably be in Minnesota and he'll probably be really good.

[Jason Moore]

Agreed.

[Andy Holloway]

So. All right, let's. Any more news?

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

That's a great book. I read that book.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Which is far better.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

Love it. All righty. Let's get into the meat and potatoes of the show.

[Jason Moore]

Mailbag. Mailbag. Still brought it.

[Andy Holloway]

Fighting through the illness. I love it. I'm a fighter, man. The draft is so close. I just thought I'd say that because we're right there and there's going to be so much to talk about. Cannot wait. Let's get into the mailbag here. Dan.

[Mike Wright]

What's up, Dan?

[Andy Holloway]

How you doing, Dan?

[Jason Moore]

Dan.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's his fantasy question. He has a keeper league. It's a PPR league. 12 team league. He can only keep two. In the fourth and fifth round, he has to choose from ODB, Ty Hilton, DeAndre Hopkins and Justin Forset. So who does he choose? What do you guys think?

[Jason Moore]

I think for me this is. This is an easy one. Obviously Odell Beckham is there, so that's.

[Andy Holloway]

So Odell's a done deal.

[Jason Moore]

A done deal. So really it's pick one of one of these other guys and to me I see four set on my. Where I've got him finishing is a top 10 back. You don't pass on that now. If they draft, you know, Gordon next week, then obviously that changes. But if they get a back in the third or fourth round, I like four set and I would rather have the running back than, you know, a good. I mean these are good options at wide receiver but I'd rather go four set and odb. What say you guys?

[Mike Wright]

I completely agree where it depends on when you have to lock these in. If you get to wait through the draft and through some of the offseason see if the Ravens add anybody else. I don't. I'm not sure they are going to add anybody of note. And I agree with Jason. I love four set. I love him in Mark Trustman system and ODB in for a fourth round. Even with the beautiful. We're not 100% sold on him here. We still really like him but he. He's only done it for half a year but in the fourth round. Fantastic.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. I agree completely. ODB and four set are your two, Dan.

[Jason Moore]

Win your league, Dan.

[Andy Holloway]

Was that a command?

[Jason Moore]

It was a command and a Congratulations.

[Andy Holloway]

Towards the future, Peter. Peter M asks what is the dynasty outlook for Michael Floyd in 2015 and beyond. Michael Floyd is one of our bounce back candidates, a guy we all like this year with the return of a healthy Carson Palmer, Bruce Arians offense. He's the most athletic wide receiver on that team now. So what is his dynasty outlook? I have some thoughts on it, but.

[Jason Moore]

I'll clean up after you two are done.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

I still really like Michael Floyd. He came out with a tremendous pedigree from Notre Dame, was the first receiver selected in his respective draft. What I really like about him, besides what my eyes tell me is that he's a great receiver. Is Bruce Arians talked him up a lot this offseason and Bruce Arians we found, is a man that pulls no punches and he tells you exactly what he's thinking. If Bruce Arians says we're going to run left on the next play, they're going to run left on the next play. And he's talked about Michael Floyd and he said there's absolutely no reason that he should not be a thousand yard receiver. He attributes last, last year's debacle to the mix up of quarterbacks that Floyd was dealing with. Maybe Floyd just mentally wasn't prepared for that. And I know that's kind of a weird thing to say about a guy you like. However, I think he just. I like Palmer's back and healthy and I think Floyd is, is ready to take the, to take that jump into becoming an elite fantasy receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

I would just say in, in the dynasty outlook, I have some concerns. This is a make or break year for him in general as a fantasy producing receiver. I mean last year was his third year, this is fourth year. If he doesn't do it this year, I'm pretty worri. But as far as the dynasty outlook, it's going to depend on that quarterback situation. Carson Palmer is not going to be there forever. So you might get one or two years of Carson Palmer and who knows what you have after that. So question marks on Michael Floyd compared to some of the other guys you might have in his category.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that was the same cleanup I was going to say was, you know, I like him in a redraft league. I think he'll have a bounce back year this year, but I don't really love the dynasty implications. The Cardinals are not set up for the future at quarterback. Logan Thomas, man, thank you. You just proved my point.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. So Peter, I would say we believe he can bounce back this year, but be careful. Maybe you unload him after next year.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I'll say I'll throw in right now. His value cannot be very high in the eyes of, of many in your league. If so, if you can find someone who really likes them. Maybe you unload him, but I, I still believe in Michael Floyd.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, next question comes from John M. He's in a 12 team, three keeper, non PPR. Looks like his keepers are. They cost one draft pick from rounds one through three. So he's asking who does he keep? Demarius Thomas, Alshon Jeffrey, Rob Gronkowski, Shady McCoy, Eddie Lacey. So his big question is, should I go with roster construction or best player value?

[Jason Moore]

I think, honestly, Jonam, I would say that they. Jonam, the answer to your big question is the same either way, in my opinion. I don't think that based on who you've got that your roster construction is different than who the best value is. I think when you take the best value, you're setting up your roster to be well constructed, which is, in my opinion, you got to go with Eddie Lacy and you got to go with Gronk and you got to go with the Marius Thomas. That's, I mean, right there. You can have an argument if you want. I know you're high on Shady.

[Mike Wright]

I'm interested to hear what Andy has to say.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So Andy, why don't you talk about.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree. I'd go Rob Gronkowski and Eddie Lacy and Shady McCoy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So that's really the.

[Andy Holloway]

I take the two running backs. I take two huge advantages at running backs, two top 10 potential guys and a monster positional advantage at Rob Gronkowski. But I, you know, if you want to go to Marius Thomas, there's nobody more consistent. I don't, I don't blame you if you're, if you're not high on McCoy. If you're worried about him transitioning teams, that's fine.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I get that. I'm not as high on Shady as you are, and I think that's been made known. But I do love Shady as a number two running back.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, he does pick 12th in his draft. Does that make a difference on what will be available? There it is, a three keeper. This is similar to a league we play in. So 36 guys are off the board. He picks 12 in the first round, non snake until the fourth. So it's hard to say what will be available. But if guys are going to keep more running backs, then maybe you keep two running backs and grab a wide receiver that's on the board.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe try and do a little recon of. Hey, hey, Bill, what do you. What do you think about keeping over there and. Or just scout out people's teams covertly on the Internet like I do. Then use your brain and say, I think they're going to keep this.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that's where his question actually comes from, is he wants to know he keeps these three guys, but he picks at 12. So do you do best available at 12 or do you do roster construction in that point?

[Jason Moore]

You do best available at 12, I think, for your first pick. I mean, it depends, right? Because if you take. This is why I take Demarius Thomas is because if you take Demarys Thomas, then that's more flexibility. You go best available. If there's a better running back, a better wide receiver, you're fine to go either way. If you take Shady, you're really in need of a wide receiver. And if one doesn't fall to you there, you know, I see Demarius as a number one wide receiver. I see Shady as a running back, too. So that's where I would go. Dt.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so, yeah, I think you got a couple perspectives to go with there, but either way, you don't want to leave somebody great on your board. So do a little recon. Like Mike said, you got to know your league, man. You got to know your league mates.

[Mike Wright]

Like Tom Clancy, Rainbow six.

[Andy Holloway]

We got a guy in our league that we know is going to draft all the Chargers off the board.

[Jason Moore]

Mm.

[Mike Wright]

It's useful insider information, so play to that strength.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, this one comes in on off of Twitter at Dynasty Delight.

[Jason Moore]

Dynasty Delight. I like it.

[Andy Holloway]

Pbr.

[Mike Wright]

You're welcome.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not sure. Is it. Are these both? If.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I believe it's one or the other.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so he.

[Mike Wright]

Did you say ppr?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's a PPR league. So Jimmy Graham or Lynch?

[Mike Wright]

No, I believe it's Graham lynch or Kelsey Hill.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, really?

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. All right, well, that changes the question. Jimmy Graham and Lynch or Travis Kelsey and Jeremy Hill? Well, boy, this is old blood, new blood.

[Jason Moore]

Mm.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't. I'm not sure. I guess I would go Kelsey Hill myself because I wouldn't want. You know, there's no PPR value. A little bit more PBR value probably to lynch, actually. I guess the double Seahawks thing would be the problem. To me, it's really close, though.

[Jason Moore]

I think versus versus youth is legitimate because this is a keeper league. So to me, I always want to go with young blood over old blood.

[Andy Holloway]

Is it. Do we know that it is a dynasty?

[Mike Wright]

I imagine the dynasty league. If he's a dynasty.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, all right.

[Jason Moore]

So let's just say then. So for me, if this is a keeper question, I Would definitely go Kelsey Hill. The question is, what if this was a redraft? Which pair would you rather have?

[Andy Holloway]

I dated a girl named Kelsey Hill once.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I don't doubt it. I've seen. No.

[Mike Wright]

Amazing.

[Jason Moore]

No offense to your wife.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, this is a long time ago.

[Mike Wright]

I go Kelsey Hill. The player is not the lady.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Mmm.

[Mike Wright]

For the dynasty aspect. Much younger. I love it.

[Andy Holloway]

The lady or the.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not gonna speak to the lady's age. And I. I think there is a strong chance that Kelsey Hill outscore Graham and lynch respectively at their positions.

[Jason Moore]

Agree.

[Andy Holloway]

Huh? Yeah. That is. Do you go with the old. What you're comfortable with?

[Mike Wright]

Old busted or new hotness?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I like. We love Kelsey. We like Kelsey finishing at or above Graham this year. This next one comes in from Hillary Clinton. I'm having some trouble locking in my keepers. Our league deadline is approaching quickly. I'm going to be a little busy for the next year and a half, and I could use some help. Well, of course. We're here for you.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, madam.

[Jason Moore]

Madam, I did not know that the. What is she. Is she the first lady anymore? She's.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no. Clinton's not in office anymore, so I.

[Jason Moore]

Didn'T know she played fantasy football, but thank you, Hillary.

[Andy Holloway]

She's in house of cards, right? Correct.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Two keepers. Only one per position. Can keep forever. Arian Foster or Jeremy Hill. Emmanuel Sanders or Ty Hilton.

[Jason Moore]

Easy.

[Andy Holloway]

So you have to choose between each one.

[Jason Moore]

This goes back to the last.

[Andy Holloway]

Can keep forever. Jeremy Hill, Ty Hilton.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Jeremy Hill and Ty Hilton.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

It's. It's new hotness versus old. Old busted.

[Andy Holloway]

One year, I take Arian Foster and Ty Hilton. Just for the record, if it's a redraft, you're saying if you just got these guys for one year and they go back in or something.

[Mike Wright]

Let's. Let's keep the shading on my Jeremy Hill tattoo going, and I will keep Jeremy Hill.

[Andy Holloway]

Are we the highest kind of group show that on Jeremy Hill?

[Jason Moore]

We're just the first. I've seen everybody starting to get on.

[Mike Wright]

Board, and what I heard towards the end of the year from. From other guys out there was to be cautious. The timeshare is still there. And meanwhile, I've got my revolvers just shooting into the night screaming. Jeremy Hill looking like Pistol Pete every.

[Jason Moore]

Night, waking up the neighbors.

[Andy Holloway]

You wake up at midnight screaming.

[Mike Wright]

I've had at least five complaints.

[Andy Holloway]

Jeremy, Pearl jam's playing all the time.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, exactly. He spoke in class today, but it seems like people are starting.

[Andy Holloway]

We gotta get him on the show.

[Mike Wright]

We got Jeremy Hill.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we gotta get him on the show.

[Mike Wright]

My heart would not be able to handle it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we'll. Andy and I will interview him while you just rub oil on yourself in the background or something. I don't.

[Mike Wright]

I need a paper bag and oxygen if that's gonna happen. And then I would. I. I'd go with Hilton over stand. Over Stand Who? Drew Stanton? Yeah, everybody over Drew. Stan.

[Andy Holloway]

No, Jeremy Hill, man.

[Mike Wright]

Ty Hilton over Sanders. Because Sanders is a good player, but what is his value? You brought this up last show when Peyton Manning leaves.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It could be similar to the Michael Floyd situation. You just don't know what you're going to get because you don't know who's next. I mean, Brock Osweiler is going to come in and who knows?

[Jason Moore]

I'm starting to get more on the Cody Latimer train. When we did a show a while back for some of the sleepers and he was one of mine, and the more I looked, I dropped him off. And now just with him going to Duke and working with Peyton Manning in the off season and him talking about how he didn't know the offense early enough last year, I think Cody's going to get on the field and I'm starting to sour a little bit on my man Emmanuel Sanders.

[Andy Holloway]

So you know what, that brings up a really good point. I was going to bring it up on this show. You know, we're recording through the whole off season. We're sitting here giving you top tens in April, end of March, and giving you some names, giving you guys to kind of some perspective to think about. But these things are going to change for us as we get more information. You know, it looked like, oh, there's going to be a lot of two wide receiver sets, so maybe Latimer is not going to be on the field. But, you know, now it's looking like the team has a lot of belief in him. And so as we see these things play out preseason and those things, we're going to change those opinions, too.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The best fantasy football players, they don't lock in and just fall in love. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

If C.J. anderson starts looking like the guy, I'm going to change my opinion.

[Mike Wright]

We're like fantasy chameleons.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I don't know about that. You know, Go. It's time for NYQUIL.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Take some night. It's night.

[Andy Holloway]

Mr. Charming. 2K says this. I had enough foresight to draft Zeus. So Travis Kelsey late last year in my keeper league, I don't know where I'm drafting yet. But here's my dilemma. Listen closely. Keep Lacy in the first or Travis Kelsey in the seventh. Keep shining, you crazy cats. Thank you. We will. That is interesting. Keep Lacey in the first or Travis Kelsey in the seventh. Well, I can tell you right now, my answer is actually Travis Kelsey in the seventh and that is.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, snap.

[Andy Holloway]

That is based on our projection for Travis Kelce. If we believe Rob Gronkowski is worthy of a first round pick because of positional advantage and we have Kelsey as our number two, getting him in the seventh, having that first round pick available, that's still tough. I mean, if you're a guy who has to have that locked and loaded RB1, you're not going to go wrong drafting Eddie Lacy. Who knows where you can get Kelsey in the draft still.

[Jason Moore]

So this is when I, when I saw this question, my first thought was I wondered where he picks. But he said he doesn't know where he's picking yet because if he's picking up near the top and he can grab a running back, then I do love that value. But if you can't, then see, I, I can construct a team that can win with Lacey and without a great tight end. You know what I mean? I can get my tight end. I can get my boy. Cody. Not Cody Lattimer.

[Mike Wright]

You don't even know your boy's name.

[Jason Moore]

But who's your boy, Kelsey? Cody Latimer is. Yeah, Kobe Fleener is my guy, but Cody Latimer would not get out of my head because he's so dreamy. But yeah, no, I mean, I can grab him, you know, late in the draft and I can't get Eddie Lacy anywhere else. So I would go Lacy here not knowing where you draft. If you know you can grab a stud running back early, then, then the value on Kelsey's great.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you're probably, probably dancing with. With some dangerous stuff if you don't hold on to Lacy. But that value on Zeus in the seventh is just amazing.

[Andy Holloway]

At D. Kelly 20 asks was just offered the ninth pick of the first round and a 26th first for LA've on Bell and the ninth pick of the second round. Let's process that for a second. Was just offered 109.

[Jason Moore]

You did all right over there, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. What's going on, buddy?

[Mike Wright]

I'm just, I'm insulted for him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I can't wait. When I first read this question, when I first read it, this is what I read. It was the first, you know, the ninth pick in the first round. This Year, the first round next year, and the second, the ninth pick in the second round this year. So I saw it was, I'm gonna give you first and second this year and a first next year. And when I read that, I go, I probably would say no. That's what I actually thought. And then I read it and go, wait, you're sending Le'Veon Bell and the second. What?

[Andy Holloway]

No. With extreme prejudice.

[Jason Moore]

This is not. This is. This is you. You offer something rude back to that player.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Or you say you get one more and then no more.

[Mike Wright]

This is offers. This is an offer where if you owe this person some, like, $20, you go get $20 worth of pennies and you leave it, like, in their door. Just spilled all over the floor. Because this is repulsive.

[Andy Holloway]

So say no, say no. Le'Veon Bell's pretty good. This is somebody trying to. This is somebody trying to take advantage of the news that Le'Veon Bell was suspended for three games and trying to go after him.

[Jason Moore]

But D. Kelly, 20, is smart enough to say no to listen to the fantasy footballers and.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, the next one comes in from Twitter at Jazz jargon. Jazz jargon.

[Jason Moore]

Jazz jargon.

[Andy Holloway]

12 team. Non PPE, non PPR. Rebuilding team.

[Mike Wright]

Would you prefer it to be non peepee?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, really. It's really. It's just. This is the only deuce league.

[Mike Wright]

All right, moving along.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you rather have. He says he's rebuilding, by the way. Dynasty rebuilding. Would you rather have Landry and 105 or Michael Floyd and 106? And we've kind of answered this already. Landry and the fifth.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, for sure.

[Mike Wright]

Not PPR.

[Andy Holloway]

You got more guarantee. Oh, non PBR, non PPR.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I still take Landry and the fifth. Floyd hasn't done it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And doesn't have a greater outlook. The future outlook is bright for you.

[Andy Holloway]

Disagree. Some.

[Mike Wright]

For some reason, just the Landry's value is really rooted in getting a PPR scoring format.

[Jason Moore]

I agree. But in a dynasty league, let's say there's only two guys left in the draft and those two guys. Which one would you pick? You clearly pick Landry.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

In a dynasty league, I'm going to answer for you.

[Mike Wright]

No, I mean, it's. It's not. It's not a slam dunk for me because of the non ppr. I don't know if Jarvis can turn into Antonio Brown or if he's just going to be.

[Jason Moore]

Is it. Is it close for you?

[Mike Wright]

It's. It's.

[Andy Holloway]

Let Tannehill split the difference for You.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I was going to say let the pick. Right. Landry comes with a. With one pick earlier in the draft. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

It's close. Tannehill. I like Tannehill. I think he's getting better. And they're gonna lock him up in Arizona. Doesn't have an option.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't.

[Mike Wright]

I just believe in. I believe in Bruce Aarons to that he will find someone and bring someone in.

[Andy Holloway]

So. Because we like hypotheticals. If you knew the long term quarterback situation was the same, would you go Michael Floyd.

[Mike Wright]

As in the what? The track it's on right now. Is that what you know?

[Andy Holloway]

If you just knew that they were both 10 years. They're gonna have 10 year careers with good quarterbacks. Both of them. Who do you take?

[Mike Wright]

Floyd.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. All right. Well, you're also losing a pick. You're going to be a little bit far.

[Mike Wright]

You're just going once down.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So I mean, he says he's rebuilding though. And. And when you're rebuilding and you don't know that quarterback situation, that's where I would lean.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. But there's.

[Mike Wright]

You're going to get someone great at five or six in this draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So this next one comes in from another guest. Bruce Springsteen.

[Mike Wright]

We're getting.

[Jason Moore]

Dude, we are, man.

[Andy Holloway]

We got. My RB keeper options are brutal and make me want to dance in the dark. Great. I know what's coming up. Not sure any of these guys have glory days coming up.

[Jason Moore]

Got some movie titles in here.

[Andy Holloway]

Mm. I think let me know point blank if any clowns were born to run or if I should drive my pink Cadillac into the. We can't encourage this, can we?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I think we just did. We certainly can encourage this. This takes creativity.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't even know what the question is yet.

[Jason Moore]

Well, here's the thing. Bruce Springsteen has wrote into our show.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

That's what matters.

[Mike Wright]

You're disrespecting the Boss.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm so sorry.

[Mike Wright]

He needs.

[Andy Holloway]

He needs an answer.

[Mike Wright]

You apologize, Mr. Boss.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm. Now I'm trying to dissect the rest of this question. Trey Mason, the crow.

[Jason Moore]

So picked you up there.

[Andy Holloway]

The terrifying Tampa trio. Wait, what is the actual question?

[Mike Wright]

He wants.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he wants the RV Options are brutal. No penalties for keepers. He also says Jason's my famous. My favorite footballer because he reminds me of a young Courtney Cox from my music video.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you, Bruce.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

That's the worst compliment I've ever had in my life.

[Andy Holloway]

That's true, though.

[Mike Wright]

You have the same haircut.

[Andy Holloway]

His options are brutal. Does he Only get one keeper.

[Jason Moore]

Well, let's just order them then, because then if he's got two.

[Andy Holloway]

So his.

[Jason Moore]

He needs.

[Andy Holloway]

He needs these. Order Trey Mason, Isaiah Crowell, and somebody from Tampa.

[Jason Moore]

Martin, Sims, Rainy. I think it goes in that order. I think it goes Trey Mason, the Crow, and then, I don't know. Do we need to order the Tampa guys?

[Mike Wright]

It's time for Sims Rainy. It's time for the day Quill to put Doug Martin at the top of the list. No.

[Jason Moore]

What?

[Mike Wright]

No, I'm just kidding.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, all right.

[Mike Wright]

No, but Crowell is first from. I'm going Crowell, then Mason, then the terrifying Tampa trio.

[Jason Moore]

I'd much rather have Mason, who's got a role, than Crow, who.

[Mike Wright]

Crowell has a role, too.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Trey Mason's role. Like Zach Stacy had a role.

[Andy Holloway]

Isaiah Correll things. Something we're gonna have to soften on if we see him start to take over in preseason.

[Mike Wright]

And it's not that he. He. We just think that Terrence west will be the leader of the timeshare. I'd still like Crowell. He's gonna be a. A good, serviceable player. But Trey Mason.

[Jason Moore]

Wait, you're saying that you think Terence west is going to lead the timeshare?

[Mike Wright]

Correct.

[Jason Moore]

And you. And you. And yet you're still picking because.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know. Because I don't know who Trey Mason is.

[Jason Moore]

He's running back for this.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he. But he's awful on the road. He's in the NFC west playing against top rushing defenses for six games of the year. And we saw what happened with Zach Stacy. Fisher said you were okay, but I got somebody new. What's to stop him from doing it again?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know. He's Fisher's guy. He was drafted by Fisher.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's the big difference.

[Andy Holloway]

And he's performed.

[Mike Wright]

He kind.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm with Jason. I go Mason and then Crow out. And then take the crow. Your favorite. All right. At J. Golan, one says Martavis Bryant or 1:10. So the 10th pick of the first round.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I'm so glad this question comes in because I'm lost. We need to redeem. I need to redeem my question from.

[Andy Holloway]

From last. Okay, so what's your answer?

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to assume on this.

[Andy Holloway]

This is a tough one because you don't know how many guys are capped.

[Jason Moore]

Well, we don't know anything. It just says Martavis Bryant or 1:10. And I'm going to assume that this.

[Mike Wright]

Who's Marktavis Bryant? You talking about that hepcat Marty McBride?

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Marty Mc. Marty McBee. Yeah. So I assume that this is a dynasty question.

[Mike Wright]

I have to imagine it is because.

[Jason Moore]

Otherwise I don't think it makes a lot of sense.

[Andy Holloway]

A rookie draft.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, just a rookie draft. And if this is a rookie draft, I would have, I'd rather have Martavis Bryant and I, I need to go back to, back to the Future. Oh, Marty McBee.

[Mike Wright]

But last week I got more.

[Jason Moore]

Last week I think there was a question of whether or not Martavis Bryant for two picks in the second round. And that was I believe a dynasty question. I was answering that kind of like a keeper question. I'd much rather have the two picks but if it's a rookie draft then I would. I feel like who you're going to be drafting there is, is a, you know, a crap shot at trying to get Martavis Bryant. So I like Martavis Bryant. If you're in a dynasty league, he's a perfect player to have on your roster. Young stud wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

Give me Bryant.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Or give me death.

[Mike Wright]

Three way tie.

[Jason Moore]

I'll give you, I'll give you Brian.

[Andy Holloway]

At a Moffatt 91. Similar question. Jimmy Graham or the fourth pick of the first round and we'll assume the same thing. Rookie draft. This one's a little more interesting. Depending on who you're going to get there at fourth dynasty league, I might take the fourth pick. Personally.

[Mike Wright]

I'm taking the fourth pick.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I'm really close on this one just because, I don't know, I feel like there's.

[Andy Holloway]

Jimmy's got a big name.

[Jason Moore]

So who are your first four picks? Rookie, Rookie draft. You got Amari Cooper, probably number one.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it depends if you're drafting before or after the draft.

[Mike Wright]

Well and it depends on your, your team, what your, your needs are. But Gurley, Gurley, Gordon, Cooper, then White.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, White.

[Jason Moore]

Wide receivers, wide receivers are going to be the premium position in a dynasty league. Yeah. Especially in the rookie draft. So I don't know, I mean I feel like you. If this was a top two, I would, I would, I would go top two. But at the four, I think I.

[Andy Holloway]

You're sticking Jimmy?

[Jason Moore]

I think I'm sticking Jimmy. I gotta say I'm sticking Jimmy.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

I can't just give you a wishy wash. I'm going Jimmy Graham here, guys, all.

[Mike Wright]

The way in the pick.

[Andy Holloway]

That makes sense. He likes Jimmy more than Kelsey. That sounds like something he would say at the unis. 86 need help. Give up Alshon and the 8th pick for Megatron. I don't have a second round pick. 16 team league. In that case, I say don't do it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, do. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Someone trying to cash in on that Megatron name?

[Mike Wright]

Nope, nope, nope, nope. Now Sean Jeffrey's gonna be a monster.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you think that I'm.

[Andy Holloway]

Plus, you don't have a second round pick. You need that pick. Yeah, use it up. 16 team league too.

[Jason Moore]

Don't do it.

[Andy Holloway]

The unis new Adam Venateri wrote in.

[Jason Moore]

I know that guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's like 65. Kicker. What is your position on. Oh, this is good for Jason. What is your position on kickers in fantasy football? I'm good enough to win Super Bowls, yet I feel no respect from the fake football community. Not cool. Hashtag thelonelykicker.

[Jason Moore]

Adam.

[Andy Holloway]

Adam. I'm so sorry.

[Jason Moore]

Adam, I love you as a real football player, but as a leader in the fantasy football community, I have to say that I believe the kicker position is dead in my heart. The kicker should go the way of the dodo and should be retired. I know we want to keep close to the real football and honor the real positions that score in the real games, but I don't like my games being decided by my last pick in the draft. Kickers should just be. Here's what you do in your fantasy leagues. Everybody and most people are going to disagree with me here, but I'm pretty passionate about this. Here's what you do. You take your kickers and you say they make a field goal, they get a point, they miss a field goal, they get zero. That's it done.

[Mike Wright]

And extra points are one as well.

[Jason Moore]

No, you don't get nothing for an extra point. Oh, I'm just saying that's just so.

[Andy Holloway]

That's like killing off most of the dodos but leaving like a couple in a community somewhere to.

[Mike Wright]

For the. For the people who demand their. I want my fake football as close to real football as possible. I bring you exhibit A. In exhibit A is Tim Tebow. The guy's not good, but he was spectacular for fantasy football. So if you're telling me that I can put Tebow and succeed on my fantasy team, but he's garbage in real life, then it throws all this comparisons of fake to real out the.

[Andy Holloway]

You know what I want? I want to start drafting actual GMs and getting scored based on their how they draft.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Because we want to be like real football.

[Mike Wright]

I'm taking Kaim because I can't. I can't name very many GMs.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm. I'm not quite as passionate as Jason. I just think that you need to make sure your scoring doesn't exaggerate the kicker position. So he's. You know, like you said, it's a luck. It's more luck infused than any other position.

[Jason Moore]

Andy, you and I were in a touchdown only league, right? Except it was touchdown only. Except the kicker position also scored for extra points of field goals. So they were pretty much the dominant player in the league.

[Andy Holloway]

Why were we in that league?

[Jason Moore]

I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

That was tough.

[Mike Wright]

It was weird. Who won that league?

[Jason Moore]

I forgot you were in it and you won it.

[Andy Holloway]

You win too much. J.D. says this. He wrote in via email. He says he found us this offseason. Loves the show. Actually he said he really enjoys the show. He didn't say love.

[Mike Wright]

And he called his gentleman. He didn't use the D word. Oh dudes. Dudes. I suppose that could be taken as many of them. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Most of our like Dayquil D for decoil. I am running a keeper league. He's in the second year where we can keep three players with no round penalty. That's similar to a league we're in. I won last year and I cannot decide who to keep. We're a.

[Mike Wright]

He won like me. That's. That sounds familiar.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Maybe you need to answer this then. We are a 10 team PPR league where QB gets 6 points for TD. Loved my team and just need some help. So he can keep three players with no round penalty. So he has a. You guys can see his board here. Calvin Johnson, Peyton Manning.

[Mike Wright]

It's an impressive board.

[Andy Holloway]

Rob Gronk. Yeah, we can see what he won. Rob Gronkowski, DeAndre Hopkins, Manuel Sanders, Mike Evans, Jeremy Hill, Mike Wallace, Fred Jackson, Jordan Matthews, Josh Gordon. I don't. He didn't really miss.

[Jason Moore]

I think he just put all of those names in there. Not to be like I'm not deciding between these guys. I just want you guys to know I had them all.

[Andy Holloway]

Well done.

[Mike Wright]

Good job.

[Andy Holloway]

Good job JD but let's answer his question. So for me, if you have to keep three, you go. This is for me. I go Jeremy Hill, Rob Gronkowski and Arian Foster.

[Jason Moore]

For me, I go Jeremy Hill, Rob Gronkowski and Calvin Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

This is just like our other question earlier with the Lacey. I think the.

[Jason Moore]

The difference being the fact that it looks like by what he has to play he's got to start three wide receivers plus a flex and I just, I don't want to Be zero wide receivers in a team that's probably going to be starting four of them. So I'd rather have Calvin there and search late for my one extra running back.

[Andy Holloway]

Actually, that's a good point. The fact that it's a three wide receiver starting. Not bad. Mike, what do you say I go?

[Mike Wright]

Jeremy Hill, shockingly, Rob Gronkowski and Calvin Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, the three wide receiver might tip the scale there. It's interesting he points out the six points for td probably because he wants us to consider Peyton Manning. But if you've listened to our show, you know we're not considering Peyton Manning in this situation. We are proponents of value quarterbacks. Unless you're sitting there. Well, in all cases, we're valued drafters. And most often getting a quarterback late works out a lot better than grabbing them early, no matter what your league is. Unless it's two quarterbacks, in which case you probably. In which you would keep grab one. Do we have how many. How many more do we have time for? Probably a couple more. You guys want to do a couple more?

[Jason Moore]

17?

[Mike Wright]

Yes, please.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, this one comes in from PA Patty Cakes. Is this Twitter?

[Jason Moore]

Twitter?

[Andy Holloway]

I maybe situation a little complicated. He can guarantee one keeper. Call him a franchise. Then he must select three more keepers to get placed into a lottery where I will randomly get two of the three selected. I love that the keeper lottery players may all be. May all be the same position, but the position of the franchise player may not be in the keeper lottery. I think I am following you. Here are my options. Lev Bell, Shady McCoy, Vincent Jackson, AJ Green, Andre Williams, and Rashad Jennings.

[Jason Moore]

So we play in a league like this where. Which. This is my favorite way to play. I don't know if anybody out there has ever heard of such.

[Mike Wright]

Andre Johnson's in there too. He. He didn't put him in the top, but he's in the bottom.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we play where essentially you've got a pool of guys and you can't fully protect them. One of them goes back kind of makes the draft more important because you might lose a stud. So, like in this case, if he doesn't protect his running back and he puts his running backs in that little pool, he's got Shady and he's got Le'Veon Bell. But there's, you know, a 33% chance he might lose one of those players, and that means one of those players would be in the draft. So the question is, do you want to protect the running back and make sure you get, say, Le'Veon Bell or would you rather. Because you've then you're losing the ability to put other guys in, or would you rather hold on to AJ Green and have a chance of having Le'Veon Bell and Shady on your team?

[Andy Holloway]

So his two setups would be. Yeah. Keeping Lev Bell or keeping AJ Green as that franchise guy. If he kept Lev Bell, he would have A.J. green v. Jackson, Andre Johnson as possibilities. Or if he kept A.J. green, he'd have Lev Bell, Shady, or the Giants running back Rashad Jennings as a possibility. If it's me, I'm going with option two. Actually, I'm going with AJ Green as my franchise.

[Jason Moore]

Whoa.

[Andy Holloway]

Because I'm high on Shady and I'm not. I'm starting to not worry as much about Rashad Jennings. And so if I ended up with Green, Shady and Jennings, I'd be okay. I would hopefully end up with Bell. But. Kind of a complicated question.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I hope. I hope the listeners.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, it's hard. We tell people, keep it concise, but we're answering questions about convoluted leagues and leagues with dynasty players. And. And so either way, you'll get to see our perspective on, you know, who we like more than another guy.

[Mike Wright]

I'm taking. I'm taking Bell, and I'm gonna put the receivers into the lottery. Just. And I'm going to risk. Yeah. So I will risk AJ Green instead of risking Le'Veon Bell is how I narrow it down.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm really high on Shady, so for me, I don't mind ending up with Shady. Original.

[Jason Moore]

When I looked at it, at first, I thought the same thing as you, Andy. I thought I would hold on to Green, give me a chance at having two stud running backs because I like the running back better. But when I look at worst case scenario, the worst case scenario is much better when you hold on to Le'Veon Bell. I mean, because worst case scenario is Vincent Jackson, Andre Johnson and Le'Veon Bell. I'd rather have that.

[Andy Holloway]

Than you'd rather two wide receiver twos.

[Jason Moore]

Rasad Jennings.

[Mike Wright]

It's the risk mitigation.

[Andy Holloway]

So you got one wide, one running back one, two wide receiver twos, or one wide receiver one and a guaranteed RB one and maybe an RB two.

[Jason Moore]

No, you can't say a guaranteed RB one. Absolutely no, because you can't.

[Andy Holloway]

He was an RB one in every one of our lists.

[Jason Moore]

No, not in mine.

[Andy Holloway]

Shady.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you're stupid, though.

[Jason Moore]

Fair enough.

[Andy Holloway]

JJ Abrams, last question for us. JJ Abrams writes in why. Why do we get so half the people are Writing in these emails are the funny names, and then the Twitter ones we don't have. First thing, loving the show.

[Mike Wright]

What are you talking about? These are. These are real people. Just because they have high profile jobs, you think they can't listen to the fantasy footballers?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm sorry.

[Mike Wright]

I am insulted.

[Andy Holloway]

First thing, loving the show. Following some solid fantasy chatter helps the stress of managing my new film. Apparently, people are a little fanatically obsessed with Star Wars. I thought the Trekkies were a tough crowd, but now I have people threaten to damage my wookie if I don't make a great movie. Sorry for rambling on. Here's my question, by the way, did you guys see that? What's the video I'm thinking of with Cool story bro? The guy watching the trailer to the new Star Wars.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, McConaughey.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, McConaughey from scene from that movie that I can't remember.

[Mike Wright]

Interstellar.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, there you go. Oh, you gotta go look that up. It's really, really funny. People are freaking out over that.

[Mike Wright]

You are the worst. Who's. Who needs the. The medicine? Me or you?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm picking from the tinhole. Des for a first or Alshon for a fourth?

[Jason Moore]

Easy.

[Mike Wright]

Hold on. You gotta read the end of it, man.

[Andy Holloway]

JJ out. Lens flare.

[Mike Wright]

All caps. Lens flare.

[Jason Moore]

I. You know, like you said earlier, Andy, we are a value. Everything is about value. And Alshon in the fourth is so much better value than does in the first because they're going to finish close to each other. You give me three extra rounds and give me my first, I would definitely take Alshon in the fourth.

[Mike Wright]

We are all about value. However, it's not as easy for me because we are also about risk mitigation. And to me, and I have. I don't have doubts on Alshon, but Des there. And unless a. A. An object that displays moving pictures arises, I'm not even gonna name it because we've moved past it. Then there's nothing wrong with DEZ Bryan. He will be a monster.

[Andy Holloway]

I kind of like Des. Sorry. I mean, you said easy, but it's not easy for me.

[Jason Moore]

Well, here's the thing. I know for sure, based on film history, that JJ Abrams is a very smart man. And so JJ, take Alshon and enjoy having a first round pick with Alshon. Jeffrey.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

The value. I got to go with Alshon, and so I can get a running back in the first.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. If you have more questions, you can tweet us at the FF ballers. You can email us. I don't Think I give the email address at the beginning of the show. Mail at the f. Ooh, I must mess up.

[Jason Moore]

The fantasy footballers.

[Andy Holloway]

The fantasy footballers dot com. Let's go ahead and do our review of the week.

[Jason Moore]

Review a source.

[Mike Wright]

Rex, don't be so sad when you're gonna talk about there. This is, this is excellent stuff.

[Jason Moore]

Well, Mike, why don't you go ahead and read that for us.

[Mike Wright]

Hold on, hold on.

[Jason Moore]

Are you kid. I did. I hadn't seen it.

[Mike Wright]

This one comes in from the Pastor W five star.

[Andy Holloway]

Five star review.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, well we're not gonna read it if it's a two star review. That's just the facts of life, people. Thepasher W says dudes, dudes. Great show, great info, great entertainment, great value.

[Andy Holloway]

Free. We're free. Our show's free value.

[Mike Wright]

Speaking of free, if you go to audibletrial.com thefantasyfootballers you can get a free audiobook and help out the show.

[Jason Moore]

Do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Boom. Alright, that's it for today's show. We're gonna be doing a mock draft episode. I know we keep teasing it but we are going to do it. We're also going to be doing a little bit of a rookie preview going into probably next. I'm not sure when we'll do it. One of the next two episodes. We'll do that and get you ready for the NFL draft so you can be bubbling over with anticipation at which of these guys you'll want which is their best landing spot. Get ready for that. And some of you, I've seen a lot of these dynasty leagues have already done rookie drafts. A few of them at least.

[Mike Wright]

That's crazy.

[Andy Holloway]

And so then they make the picks and then, oh, where are they gonna land? I thought that was crazy too.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that can be fun for mocking but that's just stupid because if you're actually, I'm sorry but if you're in one of the leagues that's doing this and I love you, thank you for listening to this show. But your, your, your team is dependent on what you just did in the draft and you have no idea what you're doing. You, you can't know where guys are going and so you're going to play the entire year and, and just so that you could have fun doing a draft before the actual NFL draft. It's just stupid. You just, you're all, you know, stop listening this show. Just stop. I'm out of here.

[Mike Wright]

What is happening?

[Andy Holloway]

I think he just quit walking off.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know. Should follow through we're not gonna have a good review to read next week. They're all gonna say that.

[Jason Moore]

Sorry, baby. I'm so sorry.

[Mike Wright]

That Jason guy, I got a looking like. Looking like Courtney Cox. Get him off the show.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Oh, speaking of Looks, look for YouTube, our new YouTube channel coming soon.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. We will be putting up video podcasts and a YouTube channel because we want.

[Mike Wright]

To overwhelm you, bombard your senses.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, stay tuned for Thursday's show. Thanks for listening. Today we are the Fantasy Footballers, and we'll see you next time.

[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.