Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Early RB Rankings, Sleepers, Mailbag

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast 2015 - Early RB Rankings, Sleepers, Mailbag

Release Date: March 26, 2015
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Introduction and Opening Banter

The episode kicks off with light-hearted banter celebrating Andy Holloway's 31st birthday. The hosts share humorous exchanges about aging and optimal fantasy analysis, setting an engaging and personable tone for the show.

• Andy Holloway [00:16]: "It is Thursday. It is March 26, 2015. And we are the Fantasy F. What? Fought, fought, fought."
• Mike Wright [00:42]: "You've peaked."

Listener Appreciation and Reviews

Andy takes a moment to thank the listeners for their loyal support and positive reviews on iTunes, highlighting the show's rising popularity.

• Andy Holloway [02:10]: "We really appreciate that we've been moving up the charts there. People seem to like the show, most of them."
• Mike Wright [03:16]: "Today's review of the day From Lynyrd Skynyrd Fan 01... We really appreciate that we've been moving up the charts there."

Breaking News and Updates

The hosts delve into the latest NFL news, starting with the surprising signing of Darius Hayward-Bay by the Steelers. They express skepticism about his performance based on past disappointments.

• Andy Holloway [04:33]: "The Steelers signed Darius Hayward Bay to a lucrative one year contract."
• Jason Moore [05:00]: "Perennial disappointment Darius Hayward Bay given another shot."

They also discuss ongoing speculations about Adrian Peterson's future with the Minnesota Vikings, debating whether he will stay or be traded before the draft.

• Mike Wright [06:49]: "He has to go before the draft. Otherwise, he won't."
• Jason Moore [07:20]: "It seems like every day they're saying we will not."

Early Running Back Rankings

The core of the episode focuses on the consensus top five running backs for the upcoming fantasy season. The hosts provide detailed analysis, including notable quotes and differing viewpoints.

1. Le'Veon Bell

Le'Veon Bell tops the list due to his role as a workhorse back with significant involvement in both the running and passing games, despite a potential two-game suspension.

• Mike Wright [10:28]: "He is a workhorse back in a league where they don't exist."
• Jason Moore [12:21]: "I have plenty of question marks for other RBs, but none for Bell."

2. Eddie Lacy

Eddie Lacy ranks highly for his consistent performance and minimal question marks, making him a reliable choice for fantasy managers.

• Jason Moore [14:37]: "He can catch, play every down, and he's on a great, high-powered offense."
• Mike Wright [16:43]: "His average went up a half a yard... his hands are a very underrated part of his game."

3. Jamal Charles

Jamal Charles is praised for his elite talent and dynamic play, though concerns about coaching decisions and workload consistency are noted.

• Jason Moore [22:33]: "I have Jamal Charles as a top-five RB because his talent is too elite."
• Mike Wright [23:18]: "If the coach doesn't give him the work, I have extreme question marks."

4. Marshawn Lynch

Marshawn Lynch is highlighted for his consistent touchdown production and heavy workload, though recent changes in his team's offensive line raise some concerns.

• Jason Moore [39:07]: "He's on a team that's going to give him the ball over and over again."
• Mike Wright [41:21]: "Without Max Unger on the line, his yards per carry went down."

Sleepers and Value Picks

Beyond the top four, the hosts discuss potential sleepers and value picks for fantasy managers looking to maximize their rosters without overpaying in drafts.

• Jason Moore [28:49]: "Frank Gore is going as the 22nd RB off the board, which is way too high."
• Mike Wright [32:57]: "Jonathan Stewart is a hidden gem who can potentially finish as an RB1 if healthy."

Mailbag Segment

Listener questions are addressed, focusing on rookie running backs and keeper league strategies.

Question 1: Le'Veon Bell vs. Marshawn Lynch

Chris from New Hampshire asks about strategies for choosing between elite running backs like Marshawn Lynch and other top-tier options.

• Jason Moore [48:45]: "If your league mates are keeping top RBs, you might need to keep Eddie Lacy to avoid dropping too far."
• Andy Holloway [47:37]: "If you're in a standard scoring league, keeping Aaron Rodgers might be tempting, but RBs are more valuable."

Question 2: Aaron Rodgers vs. Eddie Lacy in Keeper Leagues

Harry from Sacramento seeks advice on whether to keep a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers in the sixth round or a running back like Eddie Lacy in the second.

• Andy Holloway [47:58]: "Keep Aaron Rodgers if you can, especially if he's your only tier-one QB."
• Mike Wright [50:17]: "I would keep Lacy because you can't piece together an RB like him from various late-round picks."

Closing Stories and Anecdotes

The episode concludes with Mike Wright sharing a humorous and relatable parenting mishap, adding a personal touch to the show.

• Mike Wright [51:56]: "The baby projectile vomits the amount of a grown man at Chipotle all over the floor."
• Andy Holloway [52:17]: "Poor girl... She turned the place into a disaster zone."

Final Thoughts and Teasers

The hosts tease future episodes, including a fantasy face-off debating the merits of C.J. Anderson and more in-depth running back analysis.

• Jason Moore [53:28]: "Next week we're going to talk some running backs."
• Andy Holloway [53:34]: "Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast."

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Key Takeaways:

• Top Running Backs: Le'Veon Bell, Eddie Lacy, Jamal Charles, Marshawn Lynch.
• Sleepers: Frank Gore and Jonathan Stewart as high-value, late-round picks.
• Keeper Strategy: Emphasis on the high value of elite running backs over quarterbacks in keeper leagues.
• Listener Engagement: Active mailbag segment addressing real fan questions with practical advice.
• Personal Touch: Hosts share relatable stories, enhancing listener connection.

This episode provides comprehensive insights into early running back rankings, valuable sleeper picks, and strategic advice for fantasy football enthusiasts, all delivered with the characteristic wit and expertise of The Fantasy Footballers.

Transcript

[Mike Wright]

Foreign.

[Jason Moore]

To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

It is Thursday. It is March 26, 2015. And we are the Fantasy F. What? Fought, fought, fought.

[Jason Moore]

We were a new England.

[Andy Holloway]

What's my birthday today?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I was just about.

[Andy Holloway]

We are the fantasy footballers. I took a drink and I'm better now. You know, I'm 31 years old now. There's. It's going. The brain's going.

[Mike Wright]

You've. You've peaked.

[Andy Holloway]

I peaked at 30.

[Mike Wright]

You. Well, you hit. You. You're out of your optimal fantasy analysis.

[Andy Holloway]

That was a bad start. Let me. Let me try that again. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Hi, I'm Andy Holloway, joined by Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Hello. Happy birthday, Andy.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you. Mike Wright, the fantasy hitman is here.

[Mike Wright]

Greetings.

[Andy Holloway]

And we are back. We finished up our podcast on Tuesday by finishing the top 10 of our kind of early quarterback rankings, which was fun, fun to talk about quarterbacks. Obviously, we'll be revisiting all of those and already moved some guys around, but it was fun to kind of get a lay of the land at the quarterback position. Today we're going to be talking about everybody's favorite position, the running backs.

[Jason Moore]

Running back.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason is fired up.

[Jason Moore]

Everyone loves running backs. That's who you want to talk about? That's what you want to hear. You're welcome.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So we're going to talk about our consensus top five as of today. We're also going to discuss guys we really like, guys that we're fading on or we think maybe people should be worried about. So we're gonna talk about that today. There's not a lot of news and notes to talk about, but we'll discuss a few things in that regard and then we'll hit the mailbag as well. You can follow us on the web www.thefantasyfootballers.com. we're on Facebook as well. You can follow us on Twitter ffballers. I just want to start today's show and say thank you to all.

[Mike Wright]

You're welcome. Well, I don't think it was directed towards me.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, I'll thank you later. Wanted to say thank you to all the loyal listeners that we've got now leaving us wonderful reviews on itunes. We really appreciate that we've been moving up the charts there. People seem to like the show, most of them. Some of them don't. But thank you very much for leaving those reviews. If you haven't subscribed on itunes and left us a review and you like the show, we'd appreciate it.

[Mike Wright]

And we've. We had a reviewer clarify he would. He does not believe he or she. Sorry. Does not believe that we are bros. But more like. Sirs.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Why don't you read this one today, Mike?

[Mike Wright]

I don't have the thing in front of me.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, okay. So today.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, oh.

[Andy Holloway]

Today's review will read. Is that what you were referring to?

[Mike Wright]

The reviews review. That what we picked? Yeah. Oh, nice. Me, me, me. Today's review of the day From Lynyrd Skynyrd Fan 01 so the number one Leonard Skynyrd Fan in all the land.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. Which is saying a lot.

[Mike Wright]

I hope you live in sweet home Alabama. I enjoy the podcast. Sirs, you are starting to pull me away from the quote mothership espn keep the two podcasts a week coming. Well done, sirs. Non dudes. I was just. Well, I was trying to think. We like espn. We have, we have nothing against them.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no. But it's. But we like to put some variety out there. And let's be honest, most fantasy football players have the capacity to listen to more than one show.

[Jason Moore]

Oh yeah.

[Mike Wright]

As you should.

[Andy Holloway]

They'd like to listen. I mean he said right here, keep two a week coming. We will be doing that for sure this offseason. Also probably be bringing even more shows, even more in. When we get down to draft season, when we get down to the regular season, we're just bubbling. When we're bubbling over with fantasy football.

[Mike Wright]

That was bubbly.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's bubbling over. So let's get into the miniscule amount of news. We got.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league and we're done.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You want to know the only. No, no, no, we're not done. I've got a big one. Darius Hayward Bay was signed this morning.

[Jason Moore]

I did not know that. This is breaking news.

[Andy Holloway]

By. Do you even know?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Either of you know?

[Mike Wright]

I did not hear this.

[Andy Holloway]

The Steelers signed Darius Hayward Bay to a lucrative one year contract. And by lucrative, I mean probably incentive laid in very minorly guaranteed contract.

[Mike Wright]

You can't teach speed.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. What is this? Al Davis you can't teach speed.

[Mike Wright]

You can teach how to catch and he's got bad teachers.

[Jason Moore]

And you can also lose speed. So as the years go on, his only quality asset gets worse.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Perennial disappointment Darius Hayward Bay given another shot.

[Mike Wright]

I was, I will say in the the Hayward Bay defense. It was when he came out there was the. The debate of evil. I believe he went one slot ahead of Michael Crabtree and that was just a catastrophe among The. The football community. And yeah, seems like a moot point.

[Andy Holloway]

He actually beat Crabtree to a contract this offseason.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, good point.

[Andy Holloway]

Shay Crabtree, as we know, is very skilled at holding out.

[Jason Moore]

That's true.

[Andy Holloway]

So Crabtree still out there? I would not be surprised at this point if we're just conjecturing if Crabtree ends up back in San Francisco for.

[Mike Wright]

Like, for the veterans, minimum.

[Andy Holloway]

Something. Something like that. Yeah. Right now you have a lot of conjecture going on. If you want to talk about news, it's not news. It's a lot of conjecture. It's a lot of coaches saying things like, boy, Zach Ertz is just primed. He's just primed to have a big year.

[Mike Wright]

And I hate hearing that because that's pulling on my emotions.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Because everybody's gonna have a monster year right now.

[Jason Moore]

Every coach is talking up every player. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And what they think they can be. Right. And why not? Why wouldn't you do that? But at the same time, as a fantasy football player, it's scary because if you pick and choose right now, those guys that you think are guaranteed and you don't listen to the rest of the information, you might end up, I don't know, buying into C.J. anderson or something.

[Jason Moore]

We'll talk about that later. Because you and I are on opposite.

[Andy Holloway]

Sides, completely opposite sides of the C.J. anderson world. Is there anything else going on? Anybody doing anything? We're still waiting with bated breath over the Adrian Peterson situation.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know, man. The.

[Andy Holloway]

He's definitely the biggest fish out there that has the potential.

[Mike Wright]

The more. The more it goes, the. I think the higher the probability stay ends up him staying in Minnesota if he does not, if he's not moved by the end of the draft, or I guess you could even say the beginning of the draft because it's going to take a higher round to get him. Then he's going to be in Minnesota for sure.

[Jason Moore]

For sure. It seems like every day they're saying we will not.

[Andy Holloway]

That's on behalf of us Cardinal fans.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Every day they're saying they. They will not trade him. I still don't buy it. But, yeah, he has to go before the draft. Otherwise won't.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't have a really good gauge. I'm a little biased. I'd love to say that I think he's coming out here. I have been leaning towards him staying the way it's been feeling lately. I don't have a good gauge, though, because you don't know how much of this is posturing in any situation. We were talking LaShawn McCoy a long time ago. You didn't know how much was posturing from Chip Kelly. You're going to believe in your guy until he's gone. I mean, that's the way it works in the NFL because you want trade value, right? Obviously with ap, his trade value is not going to get changed by that. But you just posture because if he's around, he's around.

[Mike Wright]

And to me, he's got to be.

[Andy Holloway]

In that locker room with those players.

[Mike Wright]

The, the trading of Lashan McCoy I think would be, it's a good analogy for what the Vikings, I believe they should do where I don't think they're, they're a team on the rise. I think they, they can get to, they can get to 500 this year, especially with Peterson on the team. But if they used Peterson and they turned him into assets and money that they can, they can fill into other positions, I think that would suit the team a little bit better. But there's, there's also the, you got to get butts on the seats and you want the superstar running back. No, I understand that.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that's a really good point because if they were sitting in Dallas's position coming off a playoff season, you have a lot more justification to keep that big contract and keep your opportunity there. I think the right on the, the line, you know, if he's not happy this year, is he happy next year?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And I've heard, I've heard some people talking about, oh well, they can just trade him next year. His value goes down every single year.

[Andy Holloway]

And he's 31 year old running back.

[Mike Wright]

Next year and I believe he's owed even more money next year.

[Andy Holloway]

Coming into the season. Like Cap hit.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Or not just Cap, it just owed because none of his money's guaranteed anymore. But I think he's at 12 this year and either 12 and a half or 13 the following year. It keeps escalating.

[Andy Holloway]

So that'll be, it'll be interesting to see if he does keep pushing. Do they trade him? Where does he go? Everyone wants to say, okay, Arizona is the best landing spot, but it can't be the only landing spot. So those options get smaller and smaller as guys get signed and as the draft comes, like you said. So that'll be fun to watch. Hopefully we'll have some more news breaking that isn't Darius Hayward Bay related. I love these guys that are like coming up into our news like Hayward Bay and Bo. And hey, if you Want to be Richardson was our last breaking news in the middle of a show.

[Mike Wright]

If you want to be a good fantasy player, these are people that you need to know about. You can't win just with superstars. You got to find the later gyms like Dwayne Bow on the Browns.

[Andy Holloway]

Insinuating that Hayward Bay is a gym, are you?

[Mike Wright]

No, I'm insinuating that Duane Bowe might.

[Andy Holloway]

Have some dusty moldy rock is more.

[Jason Moore]

Of a Dwayne Bow.

[Andy Holloway]

Running back is an important position and so today we're going to talk about what our consensus top five running backs are. I think we'll get through about. About five of them today and we'll have another show that's good to get through.

[Mike Wright]

Five of the top five.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah, did I say that? Okay, we'll get five of our top. I think we've statted about 20 of them. So yeah, we'll talk more. So Le'Veon Bell is our consensus number one and why not? It's pretty good.

[Mike Wright]

That was. He was a little tricky because the, the two game suspension. It's going to happen.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's going to miss the first two games of the regular season.

[Mike Wright]

The question is, does it become a four game suspension because his offense seemed to be a double duty of a. An illegal substance and a dui. So that part is not clear. However, I believe Andy has. Andy has Bell at one, Jason and I have him at two. So even factoring in the two game suspension, when I put in my projected numbers for him, he still popped up to number two because he is a workhorse back in a league where they don't exist. Not only is he a workhorse back, he has great hands and he catches a huge quantity of passes out of the backfield and he's his touchdowns. He actually went through a tremendous touchdown drought through the first half of last year before finally turning it on. It seemed like Big Ben wanted him to get him more involved in the, in the passing game.

[Andy Holloway]

Now they brought in D'Angelo Williams.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'm not concerned about him.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's not. Yeah, not so much concern, just kind of context for last year we had LeGarrett blunt in the backfield when the season started. They're the two that got in trouble.

[Jason Moore]

Together that scared so many people away. Legarette Blunt was the reason why people won championships with Bell because they got him later because everyone's afraid of some timeshare. But yeah, I've got Levy and Bell as my clear cut number one in a PPR because he's going to be catching so many balls. I've got him number two in standard scoring. But the two game suspension doesn't scare me at all. If he does move to a four game suspension, I've heard some guys say, well, that doesn't scare me either.

[Andy Holloway]

And I'm thinking it'll change my number. You're missing a 30 year or a fourth of your season.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. You got, you still got to make.

[Andy Holloway]

The third fantasy for it to matter. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And if you're in a competitive league, which hopefully you're in a competitive league, it's more fun. You've got to win those first four.

[Andy Holloway]

Games and if you're in a position to draft Le'Veon Bell, you're in a position to draft any of these guys in your top five. And so why not mitigate the risk of losing four games? But if he's only out two, he's, he's a workhorse back. Like Mike said, it's just so much opportunity for him and they have been very blatant about their willingness to use him in that role for the time being. And like you said, D'Angelo Williams doesn't scare me. He's a viable backup.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And D'Angelo Williams is even a guy. Let's say you take the risk and you take Bell with the first overall pick. When you're getting into rounds, maybe six or seven where you're starting to the talent has really come off the board. Go ahead and grab Williams. You know he's a guaranteed starter for two games assuming the suspension goes through. And then you have a guy who like Andy said, is a quality backup in case something happens. It's good to have that insurance policy.

[Andy Holloway]

If you're 0 RB ing and you're waiting for that waiver wire, go ahead and grab Dwell for your first two games.

[Mike Wright]

That's a very good point.

[Andy Holloway]

Any other thoughts on Le'Veon Bell? Do we expect to see anything else change in that backfield or their philosophy this offseason? He seems pretty solid.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I can't imagine it does. Big Ben I believe, just got a. Just re upped his contract. That offense with Todd Haley really caught its stride last year. Where you this previous season before last, you saw it coming. It really exploded last year. I would fully expect the Steelers offense to be one of the more high powered in the league with Antonio Brown and Martavis Bryant really coming on. And those guys to me only help take pressure off Le'Veon Bell.

[Andy Holloway]

And Bell had the second most targets at the running back position last year, 105 targets, had 83 receptions. That's hard to repeat from that position. Yeah, but I have him pretty close. You want to talk about our next guy?

[Mike Wright]

Do I?

[Jason Moore]

Eddie Lacy.

[Andy Holloway]

Fat Eddie. Fat Eddie, yeah. Eddie Lacy's our number two as a consensus, he's actually number one for two of our guys, Jason and Mike. Yeah. So what do we love about Eddie Lacy?

[Jason Moore]

I love the offense that he's on. First and foremost, I think I love when I've got a running back that I can trust the quarterback of, you know, they're not going to be stacking the box. I also love his age. He's young. I love his weight. He's fat, which is the most.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that. It was just so funny to hear how much grief he gets on that side. That has no relevance because he doesn't perform like T. Rich. I don't form like these guys that are.

[Jason Moore]

There was one really unflattering photo and.

[Mike Wright]

It has changed the landscape of any lady.

[Andy Holloway]

It's so funny, though.

[Jason Moore]

Eddie, Eddie, if you're listening, I apologize.

[Mike Wright]

It's all about angles, people.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's all about angles. That's why we like radio.

[Jason Moore]

No, but he catches the ball. He can play every down. He's on a great, high powered offense. He's young, he's tested, he's proven. There's the thing that I love the most and the reason that I put him number one is not just because he's proven that he can put up number one worthy numbers, but. But because there are so few question marks, I feel like in almost everybody else outside of Le'Veon Bell and Eddie Lacy, I've got plenty of question marks on all of them. I can come up with question marks for Jamal Charles, Marshawn Lynch, Adrian Peterson, Arian Foster, all these guys. I've got huge questions about them, even though I like them, but I have no questions of, well, what about James Starks? You know, that's not popping into my head as far as like going to drop him from a top tier running back.

[Andy Holloway]

So. So I have no problem with Eddie Lacy. I have him at number four, actually, which is a little lower than you guys. But why? Why does he take the leap from finishing sixth overall last year to number one for both of you? Mike, why is he jumping all the way to number one? What's different about them that makes you think he can do that? Because for me, when I was projecting him, I love him, but I projected him very similar to last year.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

I think they did start to Trust him in the passing game a little bit more. But there are question marks, a little bit of question marks in that they like to give him a break at times. You know James Starks does come into the game and score touchdowns occasionally. So why is he making a jump from 6 to 1?

[Mike Wright]

The, to me the biggest factor is his attempts. He actually had about 40 lower attempts last year than his rookie year. However, with that lower of attempts he was only what 40 yards below his, his rookie season pace. So his average went up a half a yard. His touch. He didn't even have double digit touchdowns on the ground which I think is an easy thing for him to up. Of course touchdowns are harder to project.

[Andy Holloway]

Well for a guy like him it's more lynch like you know what you're going to get at the goal line.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly. And you know, and you know the packers are going to score. I believe that he's, he's can easily go into the double digit touchdown category and his hands are a very underrated part of his game which I have to imagine is, has something to do with that picture where people think it.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you mean? Perception wise, not for the actual team.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, no, I'm talking about the fantasy community where you perceive him as to be a lumbering guy. He's round, he's slow but, but he's none of those things. And he, he can catch.

[Andy Holloway]

He had a couple of game breaking receptions where you get him into the open field and he's cascading from side to side all the way down the field and he caught 79% of his, that was his catch percentage last.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Which is extremely good. I saw the Le'Veon Bell was 83%.

[Mike Wright]

The stat that in I believe he only had two drops so of catchable passes. He had the highest completion percentage on the team which on a, on a team with, with superstar wide receivers that, that's a good stat to own.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And for me Andy, to answer your question, I would say the reason I've got him number one is not so much because I think he's going to take the leap and absolutely finish number one.

[Andy Holloway]

It's because I has the best chance.

[Jason Moore]

Absolute confidence that he doesn't finish below, you know, top four. And I can guarantee, you know, to the best degree. Exactly. You know, here's some names from some of the top, you know, 10 running backs off the board last year. You know in the 2014 ADP you've got LaShawn McCoy who underwhelmed Jamal Charles, Adrian Peterson, Monte Ball, you Know you.

[Andy Holloway]

You'Ve even don't get me started on Monte Ball.

[Jason Moore]

Well, we'll discuss that in a little bit. But my point is every year is like this. Every year your top five guaranteed guys, they're just so good. You're going to have guys in there that absolutely wreck your year sometimes because of, you know, a crazy injury or like ap a crazy suspension. But oftentimes it's just because they, they lose momentum. They're, they're, you know, old as Aaron Foster, let's say Andy. But on my number two we're already getting at it. But I see none of those with Eddie Lacy. So it's not so much that I think he's going to absolutely finish number one. It's just that I love my confidence in him being a rock solid, steady force for my team to help me win a championship and my number one pick. If I'm at the top of the draft and I don't get to pick in a snake draft for a while, I can't have that be a bust.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, all very good points and Lacy's a guy who you can just locking load. He had a little bit of a slow start last year, but they love him. And what were you gonna say, Mike?

[Mike Wright]

The one if you have any kind of concern about Eddie Lacy, it's the slow start.

[Andy Holloway]

Concussion.

[Mike Wright]

Well, there was the concussion, but so 12 for 34 opening week, Seattle next week. Yeah, that's so that's what I'm saying. 13 for 43 against the Jets, 11 for 36 against Detroit. And then the next game which was the most concerning of them all is 17 for 48 against Chicago, which was one of the worst run defenses in the league last year. So he had a very slow start and I was the one concern about him is those three games when they those teams we didn't know at the time. Well, you knew Seattle was a very good defense but you weren't sure that the Lions had a had a top running if running defense in the league. When your player doesn't perform adequately against the top running defense, you have concerns. Having said that, I still agree with Jason that Eddie Lacy of the top drafting the top picks in the running back position. I think him and Bell have the least least bust potential. And where I said that guys in the top 10, I can even shorten that to guys in the top five. And I will almost say that at least one of the top three running backs will bust.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

You see that happen.

[Jason Moore]

I have my tear at those two guys after those Two guys. There's a tear for me after those two guys. I'm drafting Gronk or maybe even a wide receiver one.

[Mike Wright]

You're on that Gronk in the Gronk.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I am, because I've got too many questions on the rest of these guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow. Okay. That's interesting. I'm sure.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's for a later time.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll be touching that again.

[Mike Wright]

What.

[Andy Holloway]

So we're moving on to the number three consensus guy we all like, Eddie Lacy. So you got Bell and Lacey. Moving on to number three is a guy that has been a perennial top running back, but has a little bit of a coaching issue at times. Jamal Charles. Jamal Charles of, I think 209 attempts last year. Is that the right number? That sounds somewhere very close to that. He.

[Jason Moore]

Someone get Andy Reid on the phone and we'll just let him know how good he is.

[Andy Holloway]

Jamal Charles.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I believe it's 1888-the- walrus if anybody wants to call him right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow. Brutal.

[Mike Wright]

It's the mustache, really.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. He has a problem trusting running backs at times. He obviously brought in Jeremy Macklin this offseason, which can give you. He likes to throw the ball. If it was up to Andy Reid, I think he'd throw it every single play. Which doesn't necessarily kill Jamal Charles because he's so valuable in the passing game. But I have him at my number five overall. Jason has him at number three. Mike has him at number eight, and he's our consensus number three. So, Mike, tell me a little bit why you have him lower than where we have him as a group.

[Mike Wright]

It's. It's all about volume for me. Why he is. Why he's a little bit lower than.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't think that was an anomaly last year, Those carry numbers. I unfortunately only 206 carries last year. He still averaged five a carry. He still scored nine touchdowns. He had 40 catches.

[Mike Wright]

When you have a coach more than once in a season, a game will finish and he'll come. They lose and he comes out. Yeah, we should have gotten Jamal the ball some more. If that happens more than one time, then I am going to have extreme question marks about coach's willingness to. To ride the running game. And like Andy said, you have a. Jamal Charles is. What's his lifetime average? It's got to be over 5 yards, 5.5. The guy is a beast. The guy is. He's dynamic. He's super fast. He is amazing with the ball for his size, for his size. But he's Doing things that. That should not be done. He's like Chris Johnson, if Chris Johnson cared about football. Yeah. If he, if he maintained what he was doing. So Jamal Charles, even though I love him, he's fantastic. I just don't see the coaching staff getting him the work that he needs to be in the top five.

[Andy Holloway]

Now it's worth saying that last year he started, he only had seven carries in the first game and he only had two in the second game. He had injury problems at the beginning of the season. He had some. A little bit of a time coming back from those injuries. He also ended the year with only, wow, those are some bad attempt numbers. 10, 10, 12, 9, 13. That's. That's where the fear comes, right?

[Mike Wright]

And you have, you have Jamal Charles of what you think of him. How many games did he get over 100 yards on the ground? 1.

[Andy Holloway]

Man, that's brutal now. And yet he's still. Yeah, because formed at a fairly high level and not to our expectations.

[Mike Wright]

He makes up through it. He makes up by catching the ball. And that's a fantastic way to be in an Alex Smith offense is taking.

[Andy Holloway]

He still was the number. He was still the number seven running.

[Mike Wright]

Back with taking dumps again.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

He almost said it.

[Mike Wright]

Jamal Charles is going to be a dump king.

[Jason Moore]

But yeah, he was still number seven. Right. And he had so few carries, so few attempts. And keep in mind that their offense in general was not that good. So you want a guy on a higher power offense, but you've got signs that it's improving. Right. Travis Kelce is going to be on the field more. He's actually healthy coming into this year. You've got, like you said, Jeremy Macklin coming to stretch the field to make sure people aren't stacking the box. And we've seen Andy Reid with LaShawn McCoy gives a running back plenty of carries. So while I do think it's a little disconcerting to, I mean, I was a Jamal Charles owner last year. It was very frustrating watching this guy go for 20 yards and then not get the ball again. It's like, what are you doing? But I don't, I don't get scared off on that all the way. His talent is just too elite.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Jamal Charles is a top five running back next year. He. He's still in that category with me that you just spoke of with Bell and Lacey where you're not. Your odds of him being in that top tier are pretty well guaranteed if you, even if you project him, even if you keep him at the same carry numbers you're still giving him and he stays healthy. You're in the 230, 240 range in carries, averaging five a carry again and catching the ball and scoring touchdowns. He has been scoring touchdowns. Even last year he had nine on the ground. He had more through the air. Yeah. And so I think that he is a. Definitely a bounce back to elite candidate. He's our number three consensus wise, which is kind of crazy with me having him at 5 and Mike at 8. But did you have something you wanted to add? Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

When you were talking about when Reed was in Philadelphia. Some. Just. Just some interesting numbers to think about. Here's Lashon's carries, his rookie year, 155. That's understandable. It's his rookie year, second year, 207, 2011. The big anomaly, 273 carries.

[Andy Holloway]

That was the 17 touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. That was the Shady McCoy year. And then the year after that, 200. Now, Shady missed four games, but he just doesn't. Those aren't quantities.

[Jason Moore]

No, I mean if, if you miss four games at a clip of 200, that, that is, that is good carries.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, you can't just say 232, 230, 240 again. I mean, he's not, he's not going to give his running back. We can all agree he's not going to give him 276.

[Mike Wright]

Right. He's not getting those 285 carries.

[Jason Moore]

What did you project Jamal Charles with carry wise?

[Andy Holloway]

I have him at 230 around there. 236.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Which puts him at about 1200 yards. I haven't. I still give him 10 touchdowns on the ground and 45 catches.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I've got him at 225 carries. So these are reasonable. I mean, we're not sitting here saying, oh, he's going to get 300 carries next year because Andy Reid is going to change. No, he's going to get 225 carries and he's going to be awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, fair enough. So before we get to our number four and five out of our consensus, I want to ask you guys a question. Is there somebody from the running back crop right now that you're super excited about going into? I mean, we have a lot of time. We're going to get to see what the preseason and camp and all those things look like. But who are you excited about right now that nobody else is excited about?

[Jason Moore]

Well, I am or I am definitely much more excited about Frank Gore than. Definitely than the average person. And that I think the most analysts are right now and it's for a similar reason that I've been, you know, echoing already. I want to get some dominating offenses, wide receivers, you know, I want to have some, some elite wide receivers which is going to push some of my running backs down. Well, I can get Frank Gore right now. Frank Gore is, you know, going as, as the 22nd and this is, this is obviously way too much over the last week.

[Andy Holloway]

People that are playing around with drafts.

[Jason Moore]

It'S post him going to the Colts. He's still being taken as the 22nd running back off the board. Which means if I spend one of my early picks on, on a top end, you know, like I was talking about Gronk, if I spend that. Normally you have to sacrifice a running back, you have to sacrifice a position to take a position. But from where Frank Gore is getting drafted, he is on a high power offense that clearly wants to use him as a bell cow, as a three down back. They took him. I mean that's the words coming out of their mouth right now. They promised him during hype season, during hype season, I'll give you that. But they also promised him something before hype season to get him to go away from the Philadelphia Eagles. They have been talking him up for a long time. There was rumors the year prior that they wanted Frank Gordon. Now they have him. So on that offense with Andrew Luck with the ability to put up points, I just think what is his floor? Am I really going to draft a guy, you know, that I can get later, get better, you know, high end guys on my roster in other positions and you know, for the 22nd running back, I've actually got him finishing in my top 13 right now and I just don't see him falling off. If you compare the guys around where, where he's going.

[Mike Wright]

Careful.

[Jason Moore]

I will attempt to be careful for you, Mike. Let me, let me show you some of the names that he's going around. He's going around. Isaiah Crowell, Rashad Jennings, Andre Ellington, who I'm really sour on Joy Bell. I mean the floor of those guys, you know, maybe someone that I just named finishes higher, but I could see all of them finishing in a way that hurts my fantasy team and doesn't get in my roster and I don't see that with Frank Gore. So I really like Frank Gore from a value.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so we'll see who Mike's guy is right now. I will the only. I'm not going to disagree with any of that. I like Frank Gore. A lot. But the one piece to the puzzle that we do have in his situation is the fact he's going to a new team. And so the variable of just not seeing him play out in that offense and what they want to do with Boom Heron and what they want to do with Vic Ballard coming back and what they want to do from that perspective. So that would be the only thing that would temper me a little bit is just not knowing and not just trusting the hype train of the offseason. But I like, I like that. Take Mike, who, who is on your list right now that you're kind of excited about that you're. That nobody else is.

[Mike Wright]

Well, some other people might be excited about him if they were in a time machine. They could see the future. No. If they went back in time. Actually it almost pains me a little bit to say it, but I am really intrigued this year by Jonathan Stewart, the Daily Show. Had he burst on the scene with two fantastic years and then was completely.

[Andy Holloway]

Derailed and then his ankles burst and.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he was derailed by injuries. He. He was hurt by a crowded backfield. The Carolina Panthers made a decision this year. D'Angelo Williams is gone. Jonathan Stewart is the guy. So let me get you some numbers from Week 13 on. Here's his numbers. 12 for 85, 20 for 155. 22 for 75, 24 for 122. He had a stinker to finish the year. 13 for 49. Go to the playoff games against Arizona and Seattle, two of the best run defenses in the league. Against Arizona, 24 for 123. Against Seattle, 13 for 70. Maybe if you ran the ball a little bit more, you would have won against Seattle, but we won't get into that. But those are great. Jonathan Stewart's talent has really never been the question. It's always been about health, opportunity. I think the opportunity has opened up the, the new regime in Carolina understands that Mike Tolbert should not be taking carries away from a talented guy like Jonathan Stewart. Because when Mike Tolbert came back, he really was a non factor. If you give him the opportunity to be featured, I think he's going to thrive. And let's say with our early ADP, he is the 21st running back off the board. He's going the late fourth round. That's a guy in the late fourth round who to me can potentially finish as an RB1.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think that if the only thing I'd say about him. Yeah, you just gotta keep him alive. I mean all I keep thinking when you're saying, I'm like, oh, boy, I love 20 carries. I love 22 carries, 24 carries, 24 in the playoffs. And then I'm like, wow, I need to draft his backup because he hasn't. Does not have. I mean, maybe he pulls it to Marco Murray and has a healthy ish season, but I think he has all the potential in the world. They love to run the ball. When you see carry numbers that size, you know, with Cam running as well, they love to move the offense that way. I think he's a upside play for sure. I just hope he stays healthy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. If you've got an injured reserve spot in your fantasy league, he's really great because then, you know, when he's in. I agree when he's in, he's going to be a beast, but that really scares me. You know, we, we try to assume health here in the preseason, but. But assuming health on Jonathan Stewart is.

[Mike Wright]

Here's the thing. Last week I started a kickstarter for one of those cryo sleep chambers for jstu for Jonathan Stewart. And this is a gift from the fantasy community to you as long as you promise to sleep in it every night.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you now speaking to Jonathan?

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Yes, Mr. Stu. I want you to sleep in the chamber. I want you to eat plenty of vegetables, find those Chip Kelly power smoothies, and no skydiving, no skateboarding, no shark fighting.

[Jason Moore]

And then he'll just get appendicitis.

[Andy Holloway]

Right? His legs will be fine, but then it'll be like, pops a spleen or something.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, the tonsils.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so my guy this year right now is. I think when I signed on to. When we were chatting this morning, your reaction to this was. Holy Arian Foster. Yeah, because you saw him at. He's my number two on my board. So take a second to. Take a second to pause. Where do you guys think he finished last year? Don't look.

[Mike Wright]

He was in the top ten.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

For sure. I'm gonna go with eight, is my guess.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think, I think without being.

[Andy Holloway]

Swayed, I probably would have said, okay, he's number five. He was the number five running back last year. He had 10 games of more than 20 carries. Carries. Okay. And he was involved in the passing game again. Arian Foster was a workhorse when he was healthy last year. He played 13 games last year. And again, he's a little bit like Jonathan Stewart where he's had. He's been banged up. He's. He's soft tissues.

[Mike Wright]

You want to get in on my.

[Andy Holloway]

Kickstarter yeah, maybe a little bit because.

[Mike Wright]

So we'll set some stretch goals that there'll be one for Aaron Foster.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure, sure. Cecil Schwartz can be on there. We'll include Stephen Jackson from five years ago. But yeah, the concern would be injury a little bit with Aaron Foster, but I think.

[Mike Wright]

A little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

A little bit. Yeah, a little bit.

[Mike Wright]

You're talking about a guy who since he took over has had two complete seasons. Yeah, two seasons of over 13 games.

[Jason Moore]

And during that time 327 carries, 278 carries, 351 carries.

[Andy Holloway]

Listen, this isn't about you guys. This is about my take on Arian Foster.

[Jason Moore]

All right?

[Andy Holloway]

Again, assuming health and what I've seen from that coaching staff and what they want to do with that position. You guys already dogged on Alfred Blue today, okay? That backfield is Arian Foster's through and through. They love to run the ball. They love to give him the ball a lot and they love the workhorse position. And he caught. He had a very, very good season last year in terms of catching the ball. Again, being involved in that role. I haven't projected for a lot of touchdowns. I think he was leading my board in touchdowns on the ground. His yards per carry back up again for the past two seasons have been back up after the decline of Arian Foster have been. Has been predicted. And he's kind of a health nut. He's a guy who takes a little different approach to the keeping himself in shape. Reminds me a little of Steve Nash in the NBA world where he tried to. Or Kobe Bryant where he tries to do everything he can to keep himself in tip top shape. I just think he's going to be overlooked. That's all I want to say.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think he's going to be.

[Andy Holloway]

Overlooked because he's not set sexy enough because he's Aaron Foster and he's. He was. But I think he is still Aaron Foster.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I like it. He's. He's clearly an incredibly talented runner on the field and he's got the situation. So let me ask you this though. Let's say Houston spends a third round pick on a running back. What do you think about the prospects for Arian Foster? How much does that scare you?

[Andy Holloway]

It doesn't scare me at all. It doesn't scare me.

[Jason Moore]

That would scare me.

[Andy Holloway]

I just. Because they take them, I think that'd be smart of them. Their backfield looks like it needs depth, but it wouldn't scare me. From a this year production standpoint, I might draft the guy as a Handcuff. But it doesn't scare me too much. So let's get back into our list here. Number four for us is a household name. A double digit touchdown monster every single season.

[Mike Wright]

Double digit Crotch grabber.

[Andy Holloway]

Double. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Double digit.

[Andy Holloway]

Millions. And the most unfortunate man at the end of the Super Bowl, Marshawn lynch is number four on our board. Jason, you have him the highest. Why do you have him the highest? Is the same. Same argument where you know what you're going to get from that position.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it is. I think that paid. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

That way if I had a sound effect for like piles of money dropping, it would be played repeatedly.

[Jason Moore]

We should just set the studio up to where there's a button and cash falls on us.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

Make it rain.

[Andy Holloway]

Why don't we do that?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, because it would rain coins and we would be injured and our equipment would be broken.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The fact that he got paid so much. The fact that he got paid so much money and that he's on a team that clearly has, you know, they're going to give him the ball. You want to talk about the opposite of Jamal Charles, Right. You know that Marshawn lynch is going to get the ball over and over and over again. You know, he's going to get touchdowns, which are so hard to predict. And I think that I'm a little worried because of Max Unger leaving, but Jimmy Graham coming in doesn't scare me. I think that one of the things that's going to do is it's going to improve the overall offense. It's also going to make sure to stretch the field a little bit and open things up. So I think that he has a very similar year to last year. And I'm not going to sit there and say his workload is going to break, break down on them because some guys are built for that. You've seen it, you know, historically. And if we don't think that that's Marshawn lynch by now, then you're crazy.

[Andy Holloway]

I love hearing that take because last offseason I was the only human being on the earth that didn't think Marshawn lynch was going to fall off the map. And you can go back and listen if you want.

[Jason Moore]

Very true.

[Andy Holloway]

So, Mike, you and I do have them a little bit lower than Jason does. And I think probably for the same reasons he, the team's identity is still a running game. I don't think any of us are arguing that we probably both gave him multiple or double digit touchdowns. I think I had him at 11 because he hasn't been below 11 in like six years. So I figure he's staying around there. However, I think he does. Just knowing Jimmy Graham's involvement in the red zone, I think you take two or three of those opportunities away, at least in the passing game, and I think that identity begins to shift a little bit. So I. I don't have any problem with Marshawn Lynch. I would love. In some ways he's who I'd want the most if I wanted a consistent guy throughout the year, healthy, those type of things. But why do you have him at 6? Why is he not a little bit higher where he finished last year?

[Mike Wright]

It's all about the trade to me.

[Andy Holloway]

Because he was three last year.

[Mike Wright]

Trading Max Unger for Jimmy Graham. We went through the numbers. His yards per carry went down an entire yard in the games that Max Unger did not play. Jimmy Graham can't block. That's not, that's not his game. When you. Marshawn lynch, now, he. He gets yards after contact. He's a bruising back. He. That's why he's not. I didn't plummet him out of my rankings. I still believe in him as a player, but I don't believe that he will be exactly what he was last year without. Without Max Unger on the line.

[Jason Moore]

I agree it's a little.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a little unknown.

[Jason Moore]

I think it's a little different, though, when you lose a Pro bowl caliber center in the middle of your year when you weren't expecting it and you haven't prepared for it and the backup's not quite the same, as opposed to trading them by your own volition in the off season and then going and healing that spot, you know, either through the draft or free agency. I don't expect it to be an entire yard per carry less like it was last year, but. But I do agree it's not going to be as good.

[Andy Holloway]

Fair enough. Fair enough. So we have Le'Veon Bell, we have Eddie Lacy, Jamal Charles and Marshawn lynch as our top four. We're going to go ahead and shift gears a little bit and get it. I know, I know. But it's probably good because the next guy on our list, stuff could happen to him. So next Tuesday, we're going to go through a bunch more of these running backs. AP Arian Foster, Jeremy Hill, we're going to talk McCoy, we going to talk Murray, we're going to talk running backs for a while.

[Mike Wright]

I have a question.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So you. You guaranteed these people that we would make it through five of our top five.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's do it. Let's do it.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Just wait. Is this a t. You're just saying I'm breaking my promise.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Well, if. If you say you're gonna know why.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you want to know why I'm breaking my promise?

[Mike Wright]

Why?

[Andy Holloway]

Because we also promised listener we'd answer a couple questions on the mailbag.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Mailbag.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Striper is back. You can email us mail at the fantasy footballers.com Send us your questions this offseason. We'll be happy to answer them on the air. You can also ask them on Twitter if you want a quick answer because you're making a crucial keeper decision in the middle of March, which has got to be most of you.

[Mike Wright]

That's an intense league.

[Andy Holloway]

That's right. I love locked intense leagues, man. I love the league that we're in, our dynasty league. It's so fun to have a bunch of guys that are willing to take fantasy football to the nth degree.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. You have to. If you make it extreme, everybody wins except for the person in last place.

[Andy Holloway]

They lose, they lose horrifically. That's the most fun. Last year in our league, we were more excited about seeing who ended up dead last because in our league, you have. We have a rule where the dead last player in this specific league gets doused with water by all the other owners before the draft and have to sit and draft soaking wet with soggy, soggy bottoms. Soggy bottoms. So, yeah, it's almost more fun to watch people lose, which just because I've never experienced it, so I have no.

[Jason Moore]

Idea at the end of the year that everyone was.

[Andy Holloway]

It was the jets and the Dolphins. It was the Jets.

[Jason Moore]

We were the most intriguing game of all time.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

We were waiting for Percy Harvin. Had to put up like a four points to get one guy out of last place and he couldn't do it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. The month so fun. The Monday night game of just the worst.

[Andy Holloway]

Watching the game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. They looked it up on Nielsen and there was 12 people watching and it was the. It was our league.

[Jason Moore]

Fantasy football's the greatest.

[Andy Holloway]

It just. It makes every game exciting. So let's answer a couple questions from the mailbag. You guys have them, I think, up on your screen. I don't have them in front of me.

[Jason Moore]

I got the first question here. This question comes in from Chris in New Hampshire. He asks, gordon or Gurley, where do you hope they land? So a little pre draft rookie question. Would you. Who do you guys think is better Gordon or Gurley as a rookie?

[Andy Holloway]

I am the Gordon guy and I.

[Mike Wright]

Am a girly guy. You set me up.

[Andy Holloway]

I need to immediately put that cut into our sound. Oh, that was awesome.

[Mike Wright]

What have I done?

[Andy Holloway]

Regardless of. Regardless of who I think the destination is. An interesting question. I think San Diego is a great place for a rookie running back to land because I don't like Brandon Oliver at all. So.

[Mike Wright]

And I hate to be jumping in with the. The choir of those people but Melvin Gordon to Dallas would be so fantastic to get a guy who's projected at least to be a workhorse back. Back behind the. That offensive line. And we don't have to count on the breaking the law. Joseph Randle taking over breaking the law.

[Jason Moore]

All right, what's. What's our next question?

[Mike Wright]

Just to finish off that question, the one doubt about Gurley is just his availability this year. Will he be ready with the acl?

[Andy Holloway]

He's coming off the acl.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly. Sorry, should have mentioned that where he's a rookie so he needs that training camp time. He needs. He needs to get acclimated with the team. Will a coach be willing to trust a rookie running back? When. When. When will that happen? If or how much if he's missed all of camp. It. It could be halfway through the season before he really is getting the bulk of the snaps.

[Andy Holloway]

Sounds good. What's the question? What's the next one on our.

[Mike Wright]

All right, this next question comes in from Harry needs help in Sacramento, California.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. What is. What does Harry.

[Mike Wright]

It's like we're. I think Harry thought he was writing into Dear Abby.

[Andy Holloway]

Harry needs help.

[Mike Wright]

Well, Harry, let me read your question. I've been hearing you guys talk a lot about the importance of running backs and how you have a. A slight devaluation of the quarterback position. Given that philosophy, would you keep Aaron Rodgers in the sixth round or Eddie or Eddie Lacy in the second.

[Andy Holloway]

Standard scoring league?

[Mike Wright]

Do you know he did not mention we can give answers for each.

[Andy Holloway]

I think if. If it's a six point touchdown league with quarterback I finally make, I'd make the jump at that point. The value too good. And Aaron Rodgers is literally my only guy in my tier one quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

I wish.

[Andy Holloway]

So I'm gonna go ahead and say.

[Mike Wright]

Aaron, I wish so much that we had video going on Jason Moore right now. He was.

[Andy Holloway]

He.

[Mike Wright]

He looked like he was posing for the thinker statue.

[Jason Moore]

Just call me Harry. Okay. I need a little help.

[Andy Holloway]

And so far his notes have just a Rogers on a piece of Paper. It looked like he was broke down after that.

[Mike Wright]

There's a letter E. That's true.

[Jason Moore]

E for Eddie Lacy.

[Andy Holloway]

I want to see what these notes turn into.

[Mike Wright]

I thought it was the guy from Entourage. I apologize.

[Jason Moore]

No, you know, I think that I want to take. Here's my thoughts. I'll try to spill my thoughts out in a keeper league. Running backs, keeping a good tier one running back is super important. Right. Because you're not going keeper league. Yeah. Isn't it?

[Andy Holloway]

We're talking. No, no, no, I got you.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, cool.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know, I was thinking continuing on.

[Jason Moore]

You know, the running backs are even more important in the sense that your first round pick, you're not going to be able to get your top flight guys. You're not going to have the chance to draft, you know, Eddie Lacy in the, in that portion because chances are they're on teams. So I would, here's what I would do, Harry. I would try to hold out and find out what your other league mates are doing because if they've got great values and they're going to let the Le'Veon bells and the, and the Marshawn Lynch's and those guys go back into the first round, then keep Aaron Rodgers because you'll be able to use a pick and maybe get one of those top guys. But if everybody is keeping that, I think that you've, you've got to keep Eddie Lacy because otherwise you're going to drop too far down there and Aaron Rodgers is probably not going to make up the difference between who you would get late in a draft from the quarterback position.

[Mike Wright]

I would, I would probably have to keep Lacy in that situation. I, I agree that I, that maybe it's an arrogance or confidence that I feel like I can piece that quarterback together to make up a difference, but I do not have a belief that I can piece together an Eddie Lacy in the second. And if I, if you're getting Lacy in the second, granted there's going to be another. Other 11 guys off the board, but in the first round you're going to be able to get a superstar at least wide receiver, let's say.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think that's just taking the quarterback situation too far for me.

[Mike Wright]

That's why maybe it could be just.

[Andy Holloway]

Because Rogers is just on another tier from you just plug him in at that point in the sixth round is the point. You know what I mean? I'm on board, but it's. For me it just tips the scale a little bit. And like we just talked about through this entire show, there's no guarantees. With guarantees at running back. Even. Even in those top five. You know, one concussion, one thing here, there. And obviously Rogers can get hurt too, but that's for me. That's what I do. That's, you know, we'll talk more running back next week. There will be.

[Mike Wright]

We'll have just me and me. Yeah, Guys. Hey, guys. What are you. Bert. No, that's. That's Ernie.

[Jason Moore]

Next week we're going to talk some running backs.

[Mike Wright]

There'll be a fantasy face off.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we'll have a fantasy face off. Next week. Jason and myself debate the merits of C.J. anderson. It's going to be exciting. We did this. I would have been more prepared for today's show if I wasn't burning with anger over your thoughts on CJ Anderson and maybe the world. We'll see. So we'll talk more running backs next week. On Tuesday, if. If you want to help us out, you can go ahead and go online.

[Mike Wright]

And go to itunes. That is going to get us a total of 0 reviews.

[Andy Holloway]

Give us a review. 5 stars, please. Otherwise, don't go on there. And we'll be. We appreciate all the listeners. Mail@the fancyfootballers.com. visit us online. Fancy footballers.com guys, have any closing thoughts or shall we shut it down?

[Jason Moore]

Just. Happy birthday, big brother.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, you're not.

[Jason Moore]

You're not really.

[Mike Wright]

Guys, thanks. Appreciate it. I would like to share just some personal stories from my. From my day yesterday.

[Andy Holloway]

Is this a supplemental podcast?

[Jason Moore]

Take us a while.

[Mike Wright]

No, it'll be pretty quick. I just wanted to share a little adventures in parenting real quick because I think it's. It's a humorous thing that might be a little too extreme for. But so the. The family went out to Chipotle last night.

[Andy Holloway]

So far, I love this story.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I love it, too. And then we sit down to eat. The wife's feeding the baby. Then with no warning, the baby projectile vomits the amount of a grown man at Chipotle all over the floor. And we think this is. This is just the best for dinner. We're going home. We're all getting out of the car.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, no.

[Mike Wright]

Then the oldest child decides that she's gonna close her entire hand in the door. Oh, no, nothing's broken. But. But it was a tragic event and I just thought I would share that with you guys. That last night sucked.

[Andy Holloway]

I was kind of worried that the story is going straight vomit between each child. So I'm a little happy for you that you don't have that going through your house, but. Poor girl.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So everybody's okay, but the.

[Andy Holloway]

She pulled a J Stew on you.

[Mike Wright]

The. The people. The people who are not okay are the ones who had to sit next to us at Chipotle. Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's the worst.

[Mike Wright]

Because if you couldn't smell Chipotle anymore.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we'll see everybody Tuesday.

[Mike Wright]

We'll see you Tuesday. Goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.