Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Fantasy Favorites, News, Listener Mailbag

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Episode Summary
Title: Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Fantasy Favorites, News, Listener Mailbag
Release Date: September 3, 2015
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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1. Introduction

Andy Holloway kicks off the episode, warmly welcoming listeners and introducing his co-hosts, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. The trio sets the stage for a deep dive into fantasy football insights, upcoming news, and their top fantasy player picks for the season.

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2. Tom Brady’s Return and Fantasy Impact

The hosts engage in a lively discussion about Tom Brady’s reinstatement following the Deflategate controversy. They analyze the legal battle, highlighting how Brady's return affects both public perception and fantasy football rankings.

• Jason Moore (01:02):
  “I did not want to watch the opening day... glad Tommy Boy is going to be there.”

• Andy Holloway (03:24):
  “I'd put him in standard at 13 and six-point leagues at 11.”

Analysis Highlights:

• Ranking Insights:

  • Mike Wright ranks Brady 13th in standard scoring and 11th in six-point leagues, emphasizing his value without overinflating his status.
  • Jason Moore places Brady at 6th in his updated rankings, viewing him as a middle-of-the-pack quarterback with reliable performance.

• Brady’s Performance Trends:

  • Discussion touches on Brady’s inconsistent scoring, with significant variation between early and mid-season performances.
  • Concerns about his dependency on key performances versus steady output.

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3. News and Notes from the NFL

The hosts provide updates on various NFL teams, focusing on developments that have direct implications for fantasy football managers.

• Dallas Cowboys Camp:

  • Mike Wright (07:07):
    “They might be paying attention to running backs that have been cut.”
  • Discussion on potential additions to enhance the Cowboys' running back depth, including the possibility of Monte Ball receiving increased workload in Week 4.

• Green Bay Packers Camp:

  • Focus on Ty Montgomery surpassing Jeff Janis in performance and trust from Aaron Rodgers, signaling a positive shift for the Packers' receiving corps.

• Philadelphia Eagles Tight End Situation:

  • Brent Selleck expected to lead in snaps due to Zach Ertz's injury, advising fantasy managers to reconsider rostering Ertz as their sole tight end.

• Denver Broncos Updates:

  • Emmanuel Sanders is game-ready for Week 1, while Monte Ball is poised for a larger role, presenting potential waiver wire opportunities.

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4. Fantasy Favorites: Top Player Picks

Each host presents their top fantasy football players—“their guys”—whom they believe will provide exceptional value and performance throughout the season.

A. Andy Holloway’s Picks

1. Jeremy Macklin (12:04):

   • Praised for his impact on the Kansas City offense, Macklin is projected to exceed his ADP by being selected in the fourth round.
   • Andy Holloway (12:04):
     “Jeremy Macklin has been my guy for quite a while and this preseason has only served to validate my thoughts.”
   • Notable Quote (05:29):
     “He will get screen passes and do things with them. A high volume, high PPR guy.”

2. Arian Foster (20:02):

   • Favored for his potential return from injury and ability to serve as a dual RB1, Foster is a strategic pick in the back of the fourth round.
   • Andy Holloway (20:02):
     “Arian Foster is my guy. He represents an RB1 when you need him for most of the season.”

3. Sam Bradford (29:44):

   • Viewed as a high-upside quarterback option who could outperform higher-ranked QBs like Stafford and Brady.
   • Andy Holloway (29:42):
     “Sam Bradford is my quarterback. He is going behind guys like Stafford and Brady and will finish above all of them.”

B. Jason Moore’s Picks

1. Lamar Miller (17:36):

   • Highlighted for his role as a versatile RB with significant upside, especially if drafted later in the first or second round.
   • Jason Moore (17:36):
     “He was an RB1 last year in limited work and is a stud RB not getting much love.”

2. Chris Ivory (32:50):

   • Recommended as a reliable RB2 with potential for increased workload and pass-catching capabilities, despite injury concerns.
   • Jason Moore (32:50):
     “He is a lead workhorse back for a running team and a quality back.”

C. Mike Wright’s Picks

1. Travis Kelce (15:17):

   • Highly recommended as a top-tier tight end offering unique value over options like Gronkowski or Jimmy Graham.
   • Mike Wright (15:17):
     “Travis Kelsey is the man. There are so many green flags with Travis Kelce and the system.”

2. Allen Robinson (22:42):

   • Valued for his high target volume and improved offense in Jacksonville, making him a solid fifth-round wide receiver.
   • Mike Wright (22:42):
     “Allen Robinson is the man in Jacksonville and a spectacular wide receiver.”

3. Carson Palmer (31:18):

   • Seen as a competent late-round quarterback with a promising offense, offering great depth and potential for high performance.
   • Mike Wright (31:18):
     “Carson Palmer is a completely competent quarterback and a perfect fit for what Alex Smith does.”

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5. Daily Fantasy Sports (DFS) Promotion

The hosts transition into promoting daily fantasy sports, particularly highlighting FanDuel’s upcoming one-week games.

• Jason Moore (24:54):
  “DFS is the next big thing. Visit FanDuel.com and use our code 'Ballers' to sign up and get up to $200 matched.”

They emphasize the benefits of DFS, including high payouts and low entry fees, appealing to both casual and seasoned players.

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6. Listener Mailbag

The hosts address listener-submitted questions, providing personalized advice and analysis.

1. Trade Evaluation: Greg Olson and Arian Foster for Jordan Cameron and Lamar Miller (35:23):

   • Jason Moore (35:37):
     “If you need Lamar Miller, then taking Lamar Miller is good. Otherwise, Greg Olson and Arian Foster offer better pure talent.”
   • Mike Wright (35:39):
     “Olson Foster side is better.”
   • Conclusion:
     The trade’s value depends on team needs, with Olson and Foster generally offering superior combined talent.

2. Scott Chandler to the Patriots (36:34):

   • Jason Moore (37:12):
     “Scott Chandler is not Aaron Hernandez. Aaron Hernandez was a better player.”
   • Mike Wright (37:35):
     “Scott Chandler will have one catch, one touchdown games, similar to Tim Wright last year.”
   • Conclusion:
     Caution advised in relying solely on Chandler due to his inconsistent performance potential.

3. Drafting Josh Hill as Sole Tight End (37:40):

   • Mike Wright (37:45):
     “It’s completely fine to start him as your only tight end.”
   • Jason Moore (38:09):
     “If it was me, I would probably drop Josh Hill and pick up someone else.”
   • Conclusion:
     While acceptable, seeking additional tight end options on the waiver wire may be beneficial.

4. Trading Vincent Jackson for Arian Foster (38:22):

   • Jason Moore (38:29):
     “Yes, as long as you have wide receiver depth.”
   • Mike Wright (38:35):
     “Trading for Foster is aggressive; be prepared for potential injury risks.”
   • Conclusion:
     A strategic trade if acquiring a high-upside RB and ensuring roster depth to mitigate risks.

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7. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

The hosts wrap up the episode by teasing an upcoming interview with Matt Harmon from the Fantasy Sports Network, promising further insights and preparation for Week 1. They encourage listeners to stay engaged, access exclusive content through Patreon, and continue leveraging the show’s resources to excel in their fantasy leagues.

• Andy Holloway (39:45):
  “Next week is going to be so fun. Goodbye and thank you for listening.”

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Notable Quotes and Timestamps

• Brady’s Court Overturn:
  Andy Holloway (01:03):
  “He held his ground. The court overturned it. But he showed that Tom Brady's not special and the Patriots aren't special.”

• Jeremy Macklin’s Reliability:
  Andy Holloway (12:04):
  “He had the best hands in football last year... a high volume, high PPR guy.”

• Arian Foster’s Potential:
  Jason Moore (20:00):
  “Lamar Miller still a top 12 running back in limited work.”

• Travis Kelce’s Dominance:
  Mike Wright (15:17):
  “Travis Kelsey is a monster. It takes four defensive players to bring him down.”

• DFS Promotion:
  Jason Moore (24:54):
  “Every dollar you deposit on FanDuel will be matched up to $200.”

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  • Offer: $20 credit after first purchase.

• Patreon:

  • Access exclusive mailbag episodes at jointhefoot.com.

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This episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast provides a comprehensive analysis of key fantasy football topics, including player rankings, team news, strategic draft advice, and interactive listener engagement. The hosts offer valuable insights and actionable strategies to help managers succeed in their leagues.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Foreign.

[Jason Moore]

To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Freedom.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Tommy Boy. Tommy Boy. Welcome to the show. This is the Fantasy Footballers Podcast and I'm Andy hall joined by Jason Moore and Mike the fantasy Hitman Wright.

[Mike Wright]

There is nothing that lawyers and attorneys and legislation cannot overcome. Friends of the show.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, all of the Patriot fans are happy today.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no. Jimmy Garoppolo was very sad.

[Andy Holloway]

That was a. That was an opportunity. Tom Brady is back.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Jimmy was ready to.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't you think this job. Don't you think this is what Roger Goodell wanted to have been overturned in court, therefore not giving up or giving way or coming to a settlement. He held his ground. The court overturned it. But he showed that Tom Brady's not special and the Patriots aren't special. And now he's on the field for game one and they make millions of dollars and everything's good.

[Jason Moore]

Week one of the NFL Game one. So much better. Now. I did not want to watch the opening day, the kickoff go and have 800,000 comments about how Tom Brady's not playing the game and Deflategate continuing on through that game from the commentators. So I am very happy that Tommy Boy is going to be there. And also, this was just the logical thing. I mean, you can't prove in court that Tom Brady did something because of some happenstance. You just can't. You know, I knew if it went to court, there's no way that it could be upheld.

[Andy Holloway]

So I'm gonna ask another question about Tom Brady here in a second. I want to let everyone know how they can get ahold of the show. You can go on to Twitter, heffballers. You can watch this show on YouTube as well as the Fantasy Sports Network. We're very excited to be on the Fantasy Sports Network with this show. Gotten a lot of good feedback, even though gotten isn't a word. And the fantasy footballers, it is now. Yeah, the fantasy footballers. Dot go on there. You can submit a question. We have ultimate draft reviews up there. So if you, if you're doing your draft this weekend, you can get a comprehensive review of that draft. We'll give you an in season action plan, those type of things. Let me tell you what's on the show today. We've got some news and notes. We're going to go through everything that's happening in the fantasy football world and then we're going to talk about my guys. Okay? My guys and your guys and Mike's guys, the best guys. These are going to be to put it another way, these are our fantasy favorites for the season. These are the guys that we have, as Mike said, hitched our wagon to, and we're going to go ahead and ride out with them.

[Mike Wright]

And this is not an organ trail dysentery causing wagon. No, these are wagons to the top.

[Andy Holloway]

That's right.

[Mike Wright]

Of the mountain.

[Andy Holloway]

I never got there when I played Oregon Trail. I never made it.

[Mike Wright]

No, I never one time made it.

[Jason Moore]

Really?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I never made it.

[Mike Wright]

You didn't pick the banker, dude.

[Andy Holloway]

I had one.

[Mike Wright]

That was a free win.

[Andy Holloway]

One of my party members died within 30 seconds of starting, too. It was like, never a good start. Remember forging that river? Okay, I'll digress. All right, quick question of the day. Where is Tom Brady in your rankings now? Because he's back.

[Jason Moore]

Guess who's back.

[Mike Wright]

He is in standard, he is 13 for me. And in six point, he is 11.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so you did not use this opportunity to just sound dumb and put him way down your rankings. That seems okay. You don't like him is my point. You don't really like Brady, so him coming back, I think that's reasonable. So you're a reasonable man.

[Mike Wright]

So when I say I, it's. I don't. I sound like I don't like Brady, but.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep, correct.

[Jason Moore]

Go on.

[Mike Wright]

But for fantasy, I just think he's. I think he's an average play for fantasy, especially compared to the value you must pay for Tom Brady.

[Andy Holloway]

33 touchdowns, nine interceptions last year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

That's number six in our dynasty league. Or in our. In our scoring.

[Mike Wright]

Our scoring format is different, though.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. I'm just bringing up the other point. Jason, how are you adjusting him? Because from before the suspension to now.

[Mike Wright]

Because in regular scoring, he was 11th. I'm just going to point that out.

[Jason Moore]

I have Tom Brady at 6 right now on my updated rankings, which is higher than I thought he would go. But it is still middle of the pack. And if you look at the one thing you can't see from our rankings when you look at a list right now is just the stats. And there's a big chunk where once you get to that middle, you know, you said middle of the pack. That's exactly what Tom Brady is. So just a matter of where you're going to get him in your draft.

[Andy Holloway]

I think if anything, he adds to the quarterback pool now where streaming is a really viable option. We talk about it, you know, later in the draft. We've seen a lot of people send us their drafts and they. They're going the Streaming quarterback option. So he's just another guy in the mix there. And the truth is, is one of the reasons Mike hasn't liked him in the past, even with 33 touchdowns, is that he's kind of been hot and cold where he has big games and small games and, you know, he burned bright for five games, won you a bunch of weeks and didn't do it at the end of the year.

[Mike Wright]

So everybody loves to point out that stretch. Weeks five through nine, 27 points a game. He was fantastic. Weeks one through four, he was under 10 points a game. It happened. This is. This was. This was not.

[Jason Moore]

Gronk wasn't ready. Gronk wasn't totally healthy, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, what. What about weeks 10 through 16 when he averaged under 17 points?

[Jason Moore]

Gronk was tired. He had played a whole season.

[Mike Wright]

You sound like a Sesame street character.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, that character has to return to this show at another day because last.

[Jason Moore]

Thing I will say, public opinion.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that the voice of public opinion. Sorry, public.

[Jason Moore]

I wasn't mocking all of you. The Foot Clan, our loyal listeners would not be saying those things. So together, the Foot Clan, we were mocking others. But I will say this, all the mocking aside, if your draft is done, go and look. There is a chance in many leagues, just statistically speaking, he is on waivers out there. I know, Andy, you picked them up in one of ours.

[Andy Holloway]

I picked him up today.

[Jason Moore]

Put them on your bench and use them to strain.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm a Sam Bradford owner and I had to pick up. I picked up Tom Brady. Figure those are a nice combo play, those matchups. And when Bradford goes down, let's listen.

[Jason Moore]

To some news and notes, news and notes from around the league.

[Andy Holloway]

Just to be clear, is that Mickey Mouse? Because it sounds a lot like Mickey Mouse.

[Jason Moore]

I can do Mickey, but that's just the public.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let me. Let me give you some news and notes. Things happening in the fantasy world, in the NFL Cowboys camp. They're talking about the fact that they might be paying attention to the running backs that have been cut.

[Jason Moore]

I know. I don't even want.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, are you actually gloating about that?

[Jason Moore]

I think it's. Have I.

[Mike Wright]

Have I not been saying that all offseason?

[Jason Moore]

All offseason? Even when it was. Even when it was.

[Andy Holloway]

You are. You are missing the point. The point is not that they're looking at a cut running back to bring them in and give them the ball all the time. They're just looking at those to add depth to the team. Oh, my goodness. They're going to go you think they're going to go the whole offseason talking up this RBBC between those guys and how they're sure of it, and then here's who they're waiting for. The cut running back to come in and be the bell cow.

[Mike Wright]

Sure do. Me and. Me and Christopher Harris are united.

[Andy Holloway]

If we were on Hard Knocks, I would tell you to take a lap because that's ridiculous. All right.

[Mike Wright]

And then you'd get a bunch of F words. If we were on Hard Knocks.

[Andy Holloway]

That's right. You won't find that here. All right, packers camp, we talked about this yesterday on the show. Right now, Ty Montgomery is ahead of Jeff Janis because they said Janice hasn't really won over Aaron Rodgers yet. And that is a concern because take.

[Mike Wright]

Him to a movie.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you know, that is one step that wins people over touchdowns does it too, though? And it's surprising because I think Janice had the inside track and he hasn't done it. So this would be a big affirmation for the Montgomery crowd, in my opinion.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, before Jordy went down, before that happened, you already saw Ty Montgomery overtaking Jeff Janus and practices and things like that when he was a rookie. You know, they had Janice on. On the roster. They go out, they draft Ty Montgomery, they put him ahead before he goes down. Now what's going to change? I definitely think Montgomery is exactly as this news is reporting, is going to be the guy. People just are too excited about the stats that Jeff Janis presents on a piece of paper.

[Andy Holloway]

I think both guys will absolutely get playing time and they offer different things to the team out of Giants camp. Victor Cruz is very much in doubt for week one. This is good for Ruben Randall, owners as well as I would say, Larry Danelle, owners. Just the fact that there's not another guy in the mix early on in the season, another guy that is Rex Ryan, had expressed doubt about McCoy. And then only a couple hours later, a report came out where McCoy expressed confidence he'd be fine and ready for week one. What do you guys think about that situation? And who is the handcuff to own if McCoy? If McCoy didn't start, the handcuff to.

[Jason Moore]

Own would probably be Carlos Williams, but I don't know that I would start him because I don't expect Carlos Williams to go into that workhorse role. He's actually. This is weird to say after I say Carlos Williams is the handcuff, but on the depth chart, he's about fourth right now. And you don't even know if Carlos Williams is healthy. The reason I say he's the guy to own is because he's the most talented runner there. He's a rookie that they drafted. And so should something serious happen to Shady and it'd be long term, then I think Carlos Williams could come in. But I don't trust the player. The player is always going to say, yeah, I'm ready to go. Coach put me in, but you know, I would. So I'm still weary of week one with. With Shady.

[Andy Holloway]

I want to talk about another player real quick in the news, because there are reports that Brent Selleck is very likely to lead the Eagles in snaps this year at the tight end position. And I 100 believe that. 100% believe that to be true. Ertz is injured, and he needed this preseason and to solidify himself as a higher snap guy that can block on the field. So if you're drafting. I've seen some teams with Ertz as their only tight end. Not good. He's not even going to play in the beginning of the season, and he's not worth rostering and holding on to, probably, because then you're holding two tight ends. So that's one other bit of news. And then I wanted to also mention that a couple Broncos bits of news. Emmanuel Sanders is game ready. They expect him to play game one. And Monte Ball will get a lot of work in week four, which means that's a roster bubble thing.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, him and Chris Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

That's. That's going to be.

[Mike Wright]

Get him out of here.

[Jason Moore]

Monty Ball, your new starting running back for the Dallas Cowboys.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. I tell you, they clearly don't like something about Joseph Randall.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe it's that he steals underpants.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, the underwear burglar. It doesn't help.

[Mike Wright]

There is a red flag that goes up anytime it is mentioned that someone steals underpants.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, and there's a red flag, too, when Darren McFadden can pass you on any depth chart.

[Jason Moore]

Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

So, all right, let's get into our guys. Wait for it. Oh, my gosh. That's so intense. It's so soft and. And. And happy. And then it's because there are.

[Mike Wright]

These are our guys.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. All right. These are our guys. These are the guys we're hitching our wagon to. We want to bring them up because we think where they're being drafted, they're a value. They're guys that we really, truly, deeply believe in. And so I'll kick it off. You guys ready for this?

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Jeremy Macklin. Jeremy Macklin is my guy. I'm gonna tell you why he's going right now in the fourth round in adp. Here are some guys going ahead of him that I don't believe belong ahead of him. Amari Cooper, Andre Johnson, Emmanuel Sanders, to name a few. Jeremy Macklin has been my guy for quite a while and this preseason has only served to validate my thoughts in Jeremy Macklin because I think people are very much under he's going to impact that entire Kansas City offense as a whole. That offense will be better. Alex Smith will be better. Jamal Charles will be better. Travis Kelsey is better because Jeremy Macklin's there. He had the best hands in football last year. He's been forced fed the ball in preseason. He had seven targets in about a quarter and a half. In his last game, he's got two touchdowns, which should help people who are worried about the fact they had none at the wide receiver position last year not worry so much. And the reality is Macklin is an elite athlete and talent and the big thing that I think you'll see from him this season in Kansas City is when you get off man coverage on Jeremy Macklin. Him and Alex Smith have shown already in the preseason, Macklin showing it in his career as he's ascended as a wide receiver that he will get screen passes and do things with them. And so a high volume, high PPR guy who I do think will get in the end zone. I think this preseason only goes to show how good he is. And I will say if I had to pick a red flag for him, I am concerned that the volume and use could lead to injury because he is a guy who's been hurt. He takes big hits for some reason. I saw that in the preseason too. But I love Jeremy Macklin and he is my guy in 2015.

[Jason Moore]

I have spoken against Jeremy Macklin quite a bit, but the usage in preseason has swayed me. I am a little worried about some of my many water bets against Jeremy Macklin.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, and the truth is Timeout. I just want to let people know what a water bet is because we get that question again, he said. We've made many water bets when we are opposed on a situation, a player, a team, something like that, we will often make a water bet with one another and that's what you've heard on the show before. You'll hear the sound effect, a waterbed has been made. What that simply means is that at the end of the season when one of us is proved right, myself and one of you is proved wrong, either of you, we Spin a wheel of water and you get punished by having water thrown on you in a variety of embarrassing ways.

[Jason Moore]

We put our water where our mouth is. Also, we have a new waterwheel app coming out very soon so that you can make your own water bets as well.

[Andy Holloway]

Anyway, I just wanted to explain it. People have asked, so go ahead and go back.

[Jason Moore]

So Jeremy Macklin, you know, he's. He's only had one season ever in his career over a thousand yards. You know, he's been with this coach before, so it's not like, oh, maybe, maybe it'll be a change of system thing. However, I do think that the fact that they've got a good running game and that they've got Kelsey, some of those short passes are going to be broken long.

[Andy Holloway]

He even got some out of the backfield.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So I think he could be decent.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, high praise, high praise.

[Jason Moore]

You have stuck your claim on Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

Why don't you give me one of your guys this season so I'll continue.

[Mike Wright]

With the Kansas City Chiefs.

[Andy Holloway]

They're all Chiefs. These are our guys on the Chiefs.

[Mike Wright]

I've talked them up. I'm not backing down a single bit. And that is Travis Kelsey. Just watch him. Play with your eyeballs. We talk about using eyeballs a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't tell me what to do.

[Mike Wright]

The guy is a monster. It takes four defensive players to bring him down. Last year he was kind of a preseason hype guy and so a lot of people jumped on the train and were disappointed because his usage to start the year was very low. We found out eventually that this was part of Kansas City's plan to work him in slowly off of his injury because he missed his entire rookie year. But once he got going, he was red hot. So in limited action. Right. That had to scale up throughout the year. 81 targets, 67 catches. That's an 82.7% catch rate. That's extremely high. Over 850 yards, five touchdowns. He had over 500 yards after the catch. So it's not just that he has good hands and he's pulling him down.

[Andy Holloway]

He's an athlete.

[Mike Wright]

He is an athlete and he is 500 yards after catch. That's Gronkian numbers. I know that's kind of a sacrilegious thing to compare anybody to the Gronk, but Travis Kelsey is. He is coming, right? He is a. He hasn't shown it yet in for a complete season, but he graded out as the best run blocking tight end in the NFL From Pro Football Focus. He's going to Be on the field a ton. Anthony Fasano is gone. Travis Kelce is the man. There's just so many green flags with Travis Kelce, the system. Alex Smith has had success with Vernon Davis. He just. He is a perfect fit for what Alex Smith does as a quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, I. I agree with very much of what you said. I have concerns about seeing it. We haven't seen it. So when I was staring down the Olson Kelsey decision in our draft, I was on the Olson side. You put your money where your mouth was and you drafted Kelsey in our big dynasty league. So I am very excited to see what I said a minute ago about their offense being improved. Kelsey's going to do that for Macklin just as much as Macklin's going to do it for Kelsey.

[Mike Wright]

Kelsey is sorry. Kelsey's going in the fifth round.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Does this mean that my. My guy has to be Alex Smith here?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Because his two main options are your guys.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I don't think that's what that means.

[Mike Wright]

No. It's DE Anthony Thomas.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so here's my first guy. My first guy that I am. I am falling more and more in love with lately. In fact, I think I tweeted out the truth that I just traded LaShawn McCoy pretty much straight up for him. Lamar Miller.

[Mike Wright]

Lamar.

[Jason Moore]

Lamar Miller. Lamar Miller. Let me ask you something.

[Andy Holloway]

What about his limited workload?

[Jason Moore]

Well, we'll get there. Is that. Is that similar to the limited workload he had last year? I would say yeah. I mean, he. He had limited workload. Everyone complains. Last year, do you know how many games he got? 20 carries?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

0Oh0 games. He had a limited workload. Do you like having a running back one on your roster, Mike? Usually. Do you want a running back one?

[Andy Holloway]

I like two of them.

[Jason Moore]

Well, yeah, So a lot of times people forget that Lamar Miller last year was an RB1. He was a top 12 running back last year in limited work. Okay. So now in the off season, Joe Philbin comes out and says, hey, it wasn't a thing where we tried to not get him the ball 20 times. I got no problem. I've never, never had a conversation with my coaches where I've said, don't give Lamar Miller the ball more than 20 times. If he's cranking and he's going, I'll give him the ball 24 times a game. I'll use him as a workhorse. He said that. But then coaches say things in the offseason. So come to preseason game three. The real show of what we're doing in the season. And Lamar Miller was involved on almost every single play. Now, it wasn't. I think he only got like six carries. Six or seven carries. He was. He was in about a half, but he was. He also caught five of five passes and looks phenomenal. He is a key part of a growing offense. Last year, he was an RB one. And the thing I love about him right now is that he's going in the back of the second. I mean, if you've got that first or second pick, you know, that third pick in that range and you get a stud rb, you can literally at your, you know, your third pick, you can be looking at him sometimes. So I just think. Or your second pick near that turn, the value is there. And he's not getting a lot of love. So I want to love on you, Lamar.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my goodness. Froyo.

[Mike Wright]

Let me just get it for you.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so my next guy is another guy that I've talked about a lot this off season, and then there was some fantasy reaper stuff that happened, and then I'm leaving him on my board. So I'm sticking with you, Arian. Arian Foster is my guy. His draft spot right now is the back of the fourth round. This is a guy who. You've heard the refrains from me before. His career is not trending downward. It's trending up 4.1 to 4.5 to 4.8 a carry. If you've watched Hard Knocks at all this offseason, you know the desperate need for both offense and a running back position on the Houston Texans. And they trust Arian. He is a stalwart of that offense and team. And as soon as he's back, he's back. That is my contention. And so because of that and because of the fact that he could be back within two to four weeks. I love Arian Foster.

[Jason Moore]

But, Andy, didn't you just curse him again and break his legs by talking about him?

[Andy Holloway]

Absolutely not. I will throw any fears away. I think Aryan will be great when he returns. And everybody who's submitting draft reports to me right now, they're getting a good grade when Arian Foster's on the bench.

[Jason Moore]

So that's. That's your key draft area. And then submit us the draft report.

[Andy Holloway]

If you want that because of what he represents. You just talked about what Miller represents. Miller represented that situation. I said I wanted where you get two RB1s.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, if you can get him in the back of the second and you've already drafted one. And you believe he's that good. That's two RB1s. Well, Arian represents an RB1 when you need him, you know, for most of the season towards the back half. And then your team changes. The dynamics of your team change.

[Jason Moore]

So you grab Lamar Miller after taking your stud in the very beginning of the draft, and then grab Aaron Foster, who wants. Who wants three RB1s.

[Mike Wright]

So according to the Houston Chronicle, the Houston Chronicle on multiple occasions has said he could return as soon as the end of September. That's just a couple games.

[Jason Moore]

Aren't we in September already?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that'd be nice.

[Mike Wright]

That's just a couple games that you could end up with a guy who can finish as the number one running back.

[Andy Holloway]

And this is just not a value play. This is because I believe Arian Foster, he was my number one running back at the top of my draft boards before the injury. And so I'm excited to see this next episode of Hard Knocks is it looked like Arian will be featured in there and he's recovering and he's gonna get back and he's gonna get healthy and he's gonna do it or he's gonna die. Well, hopefully that doesn't happen, Mike. Remember. And what is it? A negative times a negative. Ooh, that's a positive. Double. Double reaping. He's. He's in for the best season yet.

[Jason Moore]

I like it.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Mike, who's your next guy?

[Mike Wright]

So my next guy that I am currently completely attached to is Allen Robinson. In 10 games, he had 81 targets. 81 targets in 10 games. That includes. That puts him on pace for over 130 targets throughout the year. Now, what I want with Allen Robinson, who's going in the fifth round, is opportunity. I think the Jaguars offense is improving the. They did an overhaul of the offensive line in all the scouting reports of Blake Bortles say. Blake Bortles does not even resemble the player of last year.

[Andy Holloway]

That's good.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, because he was terrible last year and Alan Robinson was still getting production. So if you improve Blake Bortles and improved Alan Robinson, who's. Who is now healthy. We had the little scare in the preseason game and which people blame me for. Yeah, that was your fault.

[Andy Holloway]

Seriously, Andy, why can't we just.

[Jason Moore]

Talking football.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't you know it was Fred Jackson's fault.

[Mike Wright]

But so a plug for tomorrow, we're going to talk to Matt Harmon, who is. He created reception perception. And from Matt Harmon's analysis, the only rookies to have a better success against coverage last year were ODB and John Brown, and then it's Alan Robinson. So he thinks he's a spectacular wide receiver. Cecil Schwartz, 110 targets gone. Allen Robinson is the man in Jacksonville.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll be honest, I've gone back and forth with him a little bit. I definitely think he belongs on rosters and he is. He's a value in drafts. But I've gone back and forth on believing that he could be special from a fantasy perspective. There have been times when I'm like, well, yeah, he's going to do that. The target numbers are great. And then there have been times when the offense has bogged that down in my mind.

[Jason Moore]

With Julius Thomas probably missing those first games, I think it bodes well because he could set himself up as a red zone target.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so let's take a break here. I want to talk daily fantasy sports for a second because FanDuel's one week games are almost here and we're super excited about that. We've got Chris Meaney from the Fantasy Sports Network coming on once a week, Daily Dose section. We know how much you love daily fantasy and I am super excited that fanduel is almost here.

[Mike Wright]

Look, fanduel is the leader. The leader in one week fantasy football with more winners and more payouts than any other site. They're paying out over $75 million a week.

[Jason Moore]

A week.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a lot of like one Julio Jones contract a week.

[Jason Moore]

That's a lot of case for playing games.

[Mike Wright]

So it's a salary cap format. You can pick any players you want. You want Beckham, you want Julio Jones, you want Blake Bortles, you go get them.

[Andy Holloway]

Go get them.

[Mike Wright]

With entry fees starting as low as $1, anybody can play. Very low risk, very, very high reward. A very entertaining time. You know what? For the Foot Clan. We want to talk about dfs. You want to talk about it? You tweet me fhitman, we'll talk some dfs.

[Jason Moore]

There you go. Yeah, DFS is the next big thing. So if you want to play DFS, you're going to play DFS on FanDuel. Go to FanDuel.com and click on the microphone in the upper right hand corner and use our code, Ballers, Ballers. And sign up now. There's a special offer for all new users. Every, every dollar you deposit on FanDuel. FanDuel will match it up to $200. $200. And that gets earned out as you play. So that's a. That's a bonus of up to 200 free dollars. And the offer is only good for people that go on and use the promo code. Ballers click that microphone and yeah, go to FanDuel.com where every single day is a new season. That's F A n D u sign up today.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm surprised you could spell that.

[Jason Moore]

I could read it. I can't.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Alright, let's talk some more of our guys. And it's Jason's turn here. You're on the docket. Who is your guy? You've said Lamar Miller is one of them. This next guy, who is he?

[Jason Moore]

My next guy is going to be similar, very similar to Travis Kelsey. We already mentioned him a little bit.

[Mike Wright]

But his name is Kelsey Travis.

[Jason Moore]

His name is Kelsey Travis. Greg. Greg Oden is what I was going to say. Greg Olson. You know, Greg Odin would be a good tight end. I'm just throwing that out there for one game. Until he gets crumbled.

[Andy Holloway]

Hashtag crumbled. Odin.

[Jason Moore]

So the footballers as a group, we've been very high on Travis Kelce. And the reason is because where you get him versus where you have to take Gronk or Jimmy Graham presents a unique value that you really don't get from anyone else in the draft until Kelvin Benjamin went down. And when he went down, you saw exactly what you saw from last year out of Greg Olson, when there was only one target. And now there's zero targets other than Greg Olson. Kelvin Benjamin had 146 targets last year, okay? And Greg Olson had over 1,000 yards last year. So this year, if you watch that third preseason game, we talked about it a little bit, he got every other pass. And here's the thing. He's the only guy on the Panthers that knows how to catch those passes because every other pass bounced off a Panther, but Greg Olson caught them. I mean, he is just such a reliable target. And the thing I love, you can get him in the fifth round. He's going on an average in the fifth round. Ppr, he's an even bigger value. I think. You've got him second on your board in ppr, right?

[Andy Holloway]

I do.

[Jason Moore]

Getting a guy that's second in your position in the fifth round is just fantastic.

[Andy Holloway]

I honestly can't get the mental picture of Greg Odin running routes out of my head.

[Mike Wright]

Why sound like a dinosaur?

[Andy Holloway]

Because he looks like. All right, all right, well, let's go. We got one more guy each, so let's go through those kind of quick here. My guy, my third guy here is not like Foster and Macklin in that they have been my guy for a long time. But it's Sam Bradford. Sam Bradford is my guy, and I drafted him as my quarterback on Sunday. He's going.

[Mike Wright]

He's my teammate.

[Andy Holloway]

He's my quarterback. That's my quarterback. He's going behind guys like Stafford and Brady and Romo. And I think he'll finish above all of them. In 2013. Nick Foles and Michael Vicky combined for the second best quarterback behind Peyton Manning and his 55 touchdowns. That is the upside of an Eagles quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

Nick Foles, people.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Nick Foles.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You heard Chris Harris's thoughts on Nick Foles yesterday. That guy.

[Mike Wright]

If you live in St. Louis, we love Nick Foles.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Last we saw him, Sam Bradford in 2013, he looked great. Mike's talked about it before. He had 1687 yards and 14 TDs in seven games. That's a two. It's a lot like what we've seen from, you know, Palmer a two a game touchdown average. And the potential of this offense is immense. He's dumping the ball off to guys like DeMarco Murray and Darren Sproles and Ryan Matthews all game long. And then he's got great wide receivers that have the ability to take screen passes and those type of small accurate things that he does better than Foles or Vick would do and take him to the house. And so, you know, this preseason, 13 for 15, 156 yards, three TDs and a lot of fist pumps.

[Mike Wright]

He's looking good.

[Andy Holloway]

So Sam Bradford is my guy.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, so. And my final guy is a similar to Sam Bradford late round quarterback. I've talked about him all offseason. Carson Palmer, since he's been with the Cardinals, not counting last year because he was, he missed half the year over 4,000 yards. The guy gets it done. The offense is set up perfectly for Carson Palmer. Bruce Arians loves to take the shots, he loves to throw the ball. I think this is the best offense that Carson Palmer will have been a part of. Now the line is shaky to start, but if by a few weeks in, I think the line will repair itself with you potty coming back and them getting their Massey back at right tackle. But last year he had two TDs and two plus TDs in every game except for the ACL tear game. If you extrapolate his numbers, he had over 40.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you telling me he won't throw two TDs in any game? He tears his ACL.

[Mike Wright]

He might, he might. But he had over 40. He would have had over 4,300 yards with 30 touchdowns. This is a guy who's going in the 11th round, the back of the 11th round. So if you are waiting on quarterback like I am and then people start snaking Sam Bradford from you. Carson Palmer is a completely competent quarterback for because your loss, your roster will be so loaded with depth that you can start the year with Carson Paul.

[Andy Holloway]

People have been listening. People have been listening to you, Mike. I've seen him on a lot of rosters that I wouldn't have expected to see him on because he's been that.

[Mike Wright]

Value late and John, dude, John Brown is ready to break out.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree with you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he was above Allen Robinson, right? What you were saying from Harmon. Yes. So my last guy, you've heard me talk about him a lot through preseason and that's really what's turned me on to him is Chris Ivory. Chris Ivory is still going in the fourth round last year.

[Andy Holloway]

That's stupid.

[Jason Moore]

Last year. Well, no, I just, I don't think that you reach for. I'm not telling you to take him in the second or the third, but I'm saying in the fourth he is so much better than the other guys that are right around him because you've got a guy who has done it before. Last year he was an RB2. Okay, he was. He was in the middle of the RB2s and he split the workload all year long with Chris Johnson. Well, Chris Johnson's leaving. He also. You want to know what he didn't do? He didn't catch passes. But the offseason they said they're working him in as a pass catching back and we've seen it all preseason. So he is the lead workhorse back for a running team and he is a quality back. The only issue with Chris Ivory is injury because he's, he's had a history of him. But I mean you've got that issue with any running back. And if you're in the fourth, take him. He's. He's going to be valuable.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree. I completely agree. I am embarrassed to admit what I just had to do. I had to search Google to see if Zach Stacy was traded back to the Rams because I had a dream that he was traded back to. Back to the Rams and I literally had to go look it up because I don't know why that happened. I thought it in the dream, I thought it was really quite silly that he would go back to the Rams and in fact it didn't happen.

[Jason Moore]

You dream very hardcore to make you believe, to make you believe that that could have happened a day.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, it's draft season, people. We're not sleeping a lot. I'll tell you what, when we sleep, we rem.

[Mike Wright]

I dream about Ultimate Draft reports that I'm filling out non stop every day of my life.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a good point. You can get your own Ultimate Draft report on the website the fantasy footballers.com I also want to let everyone know that the Foot Clan members over at [e-mail] we have an exclusive mailbag episode that's coming out today just for our supporters on that. That's the only way you can access that episode. So we have an extra bonus, bonus episode, a mailbag episode. Answering your questions on jointhefoot.com so stay tuned for that. If you are a supporter of this show, let's go ahead and take a minute and answer a Few mailbag questions right now.

[Jason Moore]

Mailbag.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, this one comes in from Michael in Wichita. It is a grade the trade question one Team traded Greg Olson and Arian Foster and received Jordan Cameron and Lamar Miller. Look at that.

[Jason Moore]

Three of our guys in the single trade.

[Mike Wright]

Hmm.

[Jason Moore]

So you got Greg Olson.

[Andy Holloway]

You guys are pondering over there, because what you're seeing is.

[Mike Wright]

I gotta break it down.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I know. It's a tough one because it depends on the other guys on your roster.

[Jason Moore]

That's what I was going to say. I mean, it completely depends. If you've got, you know, if you need Lamar Miller, then taking Lamar Miller is good. Because if you didn't have a running back to start, then you need that.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly.

[Jason Moore]

But if you've got running back depth, then I'd much rather have Greg Olson and Arian Foster. If you can get through those first few weeks until Arian Foster comes. But if. If you're in need of that running back, then, you know, I love Lamar Miller.

[Andy Holloway]

So the pure talent of all the players combined, the Olson Foster side is better.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

To me. Do you agree, Mike?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I thought Jason spelled it out completely. And I. Because I like Jordan Cameron, but not as much as Greg Olson.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, this one comes in from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Sniper. That's his name.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

As a member of the Foot clan, he loves the show. But why have you not talked about Scott Chandler going to the Patriots after seeing what happened in 2011 with Gronk and Hernandez? One and three.

[Mike Wright]

Because we've seen what the Patriots have done with Titans since that event.

[Andy Holloway]

There have been a lot of guys in which that logic has been applied. Tim Wright, Zach is one of them. Zach Sudfeld wasn't Moyachi there, and people thought there was. So the question is, that's the reason why.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Scott Chandler's okay.

[Jason Moore]

Scott Chandler is not Aaron Hernandez. Aaron Hernandez was a better player than Scott Chandler. It's pretty simple.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, they really crafted an offense around Hernandez at that time. That's why you got production and unique production from an athlete like him.

[Mike Wright]

This is what. This is my prediction for Scott Chandler. Exactly what Tim Wright was last year.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You'll have games, occasional touchdowns, you'll have.

[Mike Wright]

One catch, one touchdown games. And if you want to rely on that, then you're. You're dancing with some evil.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. What do you think about people who are drafting Josh Hills, their tight end, their only tight end?

[Mike Wright]

I think it's fine to start the. I think it's completely fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

All those at that area, those back end Guys, it's. It's about touchdowns, and Josh Hill has shown that he can catch touchdowns for any there. He's got Drew Brees. Okay, so it.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm curious because I've seen that a little bit and I've. I've gotten that fearful belly feeling when I see that as your only tight end on a roster.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. There. There's also probably guys that we like better than Hill on the waiver, but I'm fine with it. It's. It's okay. But if it was me, I would probably drop Josh Hill and pick up someone else. All right, ifrts out there.

[Andy Holloway]

Last question here, Alex. In Kalamazoo, would you trade Vincent Jackson for Arian Foster?

[Jason Moore]

Yup.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. As long as you have some wide receiver depth, which it looks like he does.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You're not giving up a bona fide wide receiver. One here.

[Mike Wright]

And here's what we will. I tell people all the time with Aaron Foster, the upside is out of control. If he comes back when they say he's going to come back, he could still finish as a. As a top five running back. But if you're trading for Foster, you're being very aggressive and you need to be okay. If he does not come back for the entire season because a groin injury can flare up, he can re injure it easily. So just know that what you're doing is a very aggressive move.

[Andy Holloway]

Please, please don't re injure your groin. All right. That is all the time we have for today's show. Very excited about the show tomorrow. We've got Matt Harmon on the show. Is that correct? That is correct, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

That is correct.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. We got Matt Harmon on the show. We're going to continue to set the table for the season. We're very excited about next week. We're going to have awesome episodes getting you ready for week one. I can't wait for some football.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Next week is going to be so fun.

[Mike Wright]

You guys aren't pumped for preseason week four.

[Jason Moore]

Next week is going to be so fun.

[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantas podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.thefantasyfootballers.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers.