Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Final Thoughts on Preseason Week 3, News, Mailbag

Summary

Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Final Thoughts on Preseason Week 3, News, Mailbag

Date Released: September 1, 2015
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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1. Introduction and Waiver Wire Strategies

The episode kicks off with the hosts expressing excitement for the new football season and discussing the podcast's growing popularity.

• Mike Wright (00:16): “What is going on, everybody? It is Tuesday, September 1st. It's September and we are the fantasy Footballers.”

The conversation swiftly transitions to waiver wire strategies, emphasizing early-season activity.

• Andy Holloway (03:20): “No, not bad at all bad.”

• Andy Holloway (03:48): "I think you should be active because after the draft you see the mistakes that were made... if there's value to improve your team, go and make it."

Key Insights:

• Active Waiver Management: Early in the season, it's crucial to stay active on the waiver wire to rectify draft errors and capitalize on emerging talents.
• Free Agent Budget Consideration: Without a free agent budget, conservatively bid on waivers. With a budget, strategic bidding can bolster your roster effectively.

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2. Fred Jackson Trade and Its Implications

A significant portion of the episode centers on the trade of Fred Jackson, exploring his potential move to Seattle and its fantasy ramifications.

• Andy Holloway (04:31): "I did the internal soul searching last night and thought... it's not worth it. And so I did. I did. I cut him."

• Mike Wright (05:25): “Then I would definitely go Starks without a doubt.”

Discussion Points:

• Trade Decision: Andy Holloway explains his decision to release Fred Jackson after evaluating his value over other potential players.
• Handcuffing Strategy: If Fred Jackson moves to Seattle, the hosts debate whether James Starks or another player would be a more valuable insurance policy for Marshawn Lynch.
• Carlos Williams as Handcuff: Jason Moore (05:52): "It's got to be Carlos," emphasizing Williams as a reliable backup.

Conclusions:

• James Starks vs. Fred Jackson: The consensus leans towards Starks being a more dependable handcuff in case of an injury to Lynch.
• Carlos Williams: Identified as a solid handcuff option, especially if managing a McCoy-centric team.

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3. Preseason Player Injuries and Updates

The hosts delve into various player injuries that could impact fantasy decisions.

• Travis Kelsey’s Ankle Injury:

  • Mike Wright (08:35): "Travis Kelsey leg injury was walked off on her own power."
  • Andy Holloway (09:16): Advises fantasy managers to drop Julius Thomas due to his impending surgery.

• Julius Thomas Surgery:

  • Andy Holloway (09:49): “You do not [hold on to Julius].”
  • Jason Moore (10:19): "Here's what the Julius Thomas news does now... instead of the instant gratification of being disappointed, you can wait four weeks."

Key Insights:

• Immediate Roster Moves: Players with confirmed injuries, like Julius Thomas, should be dropped to free up roster spots.
• Trainer’s Advice: The group advises against holding injured players unless they hold a significant rank (e.g., top 10 tight ends).

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4. Preseason Game Analyses

The hosts break down several preseason games, highlighting standout performances and potential fantasy impacts.

• Philadelphia Eagles vs. Green Bay Packers:

  • Jason Moore (15:48): “What were some impressions you got of that Philadelphia offense beyond that?”
  • Andy Holloway (16:29): “They spread it out so much... DeMarco Murray was used a lot in the beginning.”

• Indianapolis Colts vs. St. Louis Rams:

  • Race to Identify Star Performers: Discussion on Andrew Luck’s performance and Frank Gore’s limited involvement.
  • Mike Wright (18:33): “We didn’t see very much of Frank Gore.”

• Minnesota Vikings vs. Dallas Cowboys:

  • Teddy Bridgewater's Steady Performance:
    • Jason Moore (25:00): “I think he can get in the high 20s. And possibly low 30s.”
    • Andy Holloway (25:16): Emphasizes not overreacting to minor preseason performances.

Key Takeaways:

• Teddy Bridgewater is touted as a promising quarterback option, anticipating high touchdown numbers.
• Ty Montgomery vs. Jeff Janis: Preference leans towards Ty Montgomery for consistent, practical week-to-week performance over Jeff Janis' streaky potential.

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5. Running Back Evaluations and Decisions

A critical discussion on choosing between running backs during the draft, particularly focusing on Doug Martin vs. Amir Abdullah.

• Mike Wright (30:06): “What did you sages manage here... emphasizing risk vs. upside.”

• Andy Holloway (32:50): “If you don’t have any running backs yet, you have to get a guy that you know is playing starting.”

• Jason Moore (33:06): Prefers Doug Martin over Amir Abdullah based on reliability and workload.

Conclusions:

• Doug Martin is favored for his consistent involvement and guaranteed carries, making him a safer pick in the absence of immediate RB options.
• Amir Abdullah is considered for his upside, but Doug Martin is preferred for his established role and reliability.

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6. Mailbag Highlights

The hosts address listener questions, offering personalized advice on fantasy dilemmas.

• Question on Drafting Receivers Early:

  • Listener Inquiry: “When is it too early to draft a receiver and a three-row receiver in the flex league? Also PPR.”

  • Andy Holloway (37:12): Recommends leaning towards wide receivers early in PPR leagues.

  • Jason Moore (38:26): “I really need to go with your gut... I would lean Stevie [Johnson] because I think his career is still at the uptick of his career while Colston is going down.”

Advice Given:

• Early WR Selection: In PPR leagues with multiple WRs and flex spots, drafting receivers early can provide a strategic advantage due to the increased scoring potential.
• Gut Feeling in Player Decisions: Trusting instincts is crucial when choosing between closely ranked players, as demonstrated in the discussion about Stevie Johnson vs. Marcus Colston.

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7. Promotions and Partnerships

Throughout the episode, the hosts promote partnerships with Stamps.com and SeatGeek, offering listeners exclusive deals.

• Stamps.com Promotion:

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  • Jason Moore (13:51): “Download the free SeatGeek app today, enter the promo code footballers in the app and SeatGeek will then send you $20 once you've made your first SeatGeek purchase.”

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8. Conclusion and Teasers for Future Episodes

As the episode wraps up, the hosts provide a preview of upcoming content and encourage listener engagement.

• Mike Wright (40:06): “We just got a little dip. Just a little dip into the mailbag. ... We have a special guest on tomorrow's show, Christopher Harris from the Harris Football Podcast.”

• Final Remarks: Encouragement to visit their website, follow on Twitter, and participate in upcoming mailbag sessions with guest experts.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Andy Holloway (03:48): “I think you should be active because after the draft you see the mistakes that were made... if there's value to improve your team, go and make it.”

• Andy Holloway (04:31): "I did the internal soul searching last night and thought... it's not worth it. And so I did. I did. I cut him."

• Jason Moore (09:16): “You do not [hold on to Julius].”

• Jason Moore (25:00): “I think he can get in the high 20s. And possibly low 30s.”

• Andy Holloway (32:50): “If you don’t have any running backs yet, you have to get a guy that you know is playing starting.”

• Jason Moore (38:26): “I really need to go with your gut... I would lean Stevie [Johnson] because I think his career is still at the uptick of his career while Colston is going down.”

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Key Takeaways

• Active Management: Stay vigilant on the waiver wire early in the season to optimize your roster.
• Injury Impacts: Monitor player injuries closely and make proactive roster moves to mitigate negative effects on your team.
• Preseason Performances: Use preseason games to gauge player readiness and potential fantasy value, but maintain caution as performances can be variable.
• Draft Strategy: In PPR leagues, prioritize wide receivers early due to higher scoring opportunities, and choose running backs based on reliability and workload potential.
• Trust Your Instincts: Leverage gut feelings when making tough player decisions, especially when faced with closely matched options.

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For more insights and updates, visit The Fantasy Footballers' website and follow them on Twitter @theffballers. Don’t miss their next episode featuring Christopher Harris from the Harris Football Podcast, where they will delve deeper into player analyses and answer more listener questions.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Foreign to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Mike Wright]

What is going on, everybody? It is Tuesday, September 1st. It's September and we are the fantasy Footballers. Mike is jazzed.

[Jason Moore]

I am ready.

[Mike Wright]

That is the football excitement protruding from your mouth hole. Welcome to the show. We've got another good episode of the Fantasy footballers for you today. Thanks for tuning into the podcast. You can find us on itunes, which might be how you're listening to us right now. I know a lot of you are. Make sure you click that subscribe button if you like what you hear.

[Jason Moore]

And reviews, people. Reviews. Oh, yeah, reviews really help the show out. We appreciate the Foot Clan and all the support you're giving us. The love of the itunes reviews, we. We really, really appreciate.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's. It's been pretty awesome. This ride has been sweet. Moving up the charts. People seem to like the show, so we keep showing up. Jason. Jason hasn't said a word yet, so.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe I was wondering how long I was just gonna go silent.

[Mike Wright]

You sound a lot better today.

[Andy Holloway]

A little better.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel. Feel a little better. Watch.

[Mike Wright]

You can. You're now allowed to shave your neck.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not allowed to shave my neck.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's related to the ultimate draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, the ultimate draft.

[Mike Wright]

Fred Jackson maybe finding a home.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. So, well, we'll see if he goes to the right location. Where's the rumor?

[Jason Moore]

Right now I'm hearing Seattle.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Seattle is the rumor and I think it makes perfect sense. He played with Marshawn lynch in Buffalo. They are very close and the running backs behind lynch are not very good.

[Jason Moore]

So let's travel. We got to travel the rabbit hole then.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Fred Jackson goes in. Who's out?

[Mike Wright]

Chris and Michael.

[Jason Moore]

Where does it go?

[Mike Wright]

Buffalo.

[Andy Holloway]

Which is gonna play musical running backs.

[Mike Wright]

If he went to Buffalo, I would just laugh and laugh.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd cry.

[Jason Moore]

And if he goes to Dallas, Twitter, the entire Twitter servers will shut down.

[Mike Wright]

You think?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

There's that many people interested in Chris and Michael still. I thought that was a two year ago thing.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just saying, the. The roars for Kristen Michael to Dallas were all off season long. So if it actually happened, there would be brain matter everywhere.

[Mike Wright]

He would fit in perfectly with McFadden and Randall as it's kind of like what you expect, you know, Sometimes they're there, sometimes they're not. Who knows? But yes, Fred Jackson, a bit of news there. I've got a quick question for you guys today. If you want to follow the show, you can do so on twitter. At the FF Ballers. Visit the website the fantasy footballers.com Here's a quick question. How active should you be on waiver on the waivers early in the season? And I'm going to throw a caveat on there. Talk about it from the perspective of with a free agent budget and without.

[Jason Moore]

True story, true story. We drafted on Sunday and I have already made two moves in that league.

[Mike Wright]

But it was, it was just through.

[Jason Moore]

My, my final draft spot. And I don't know if you guys have even seen this. So originally I picked up Zenner because I was going to hold him and see what's going on with Joy Bell. Then I thought, you know what, I'm putting Jonas Gray on my bench.

[Mike Wright]

That's not bad.

[Andy Holloway]

No, not bad at all bad.

[Jason Moore]

I like it.

[Mike Wright]

I picked up Josh Scobie so that he can be on my bench until the third kicker in Pittsburgh can tear some sort of muscle.

[Jason Moore]

Does he eat Scoby snacks?

[Andy Holloway]

I think to answer the question, you should be active because after the draft you see the mistakes that were made in the draft either on your team or people that weren't drafted that should be. And if there's value to improve your team, go and make it. As far as the fab caveat, I don't think you need to spend money.

[Jason Moore]

Zeros.

[Andy Holloway]

I would go zeros all the way just because normally you're alone or maybe there's one or two guys and you're going for different guys. I don't think you're going to need to outbid people until it's the week where you're actually everybody's looking for so and so. Oh, oh, oh. Breaking news.

[Mike Wright]

You released Fred Jackson. I was wondering, I just pulled up the board for our league and you released.

[Andy Holloway]

We're breaking news from our internal.

[Mike Wright]

No, it is breaking news because this matters to people. They wanted to know. We'll talk about multiple Fred Jackson related things that actually matter to the fantasy world. So one, the question is, if you had Fred Jackson, would you drop him? Because he could sign somewhere. Like he'll probably sign in Seattle. You think so?

[Andy Holloway]

I did, I did the, I did the internal soul searching last night and thought, you know, if Fred Jackson were elsewhere, if he were in New England, if he were in Cleveland, if he were somewhere else, would I draft him? Would I draft him over these guys? Now at that time when I made, when I made the claim, because it was yesterday at that time I had not heard any rumors to Seattle. And so when I was looking at those, I just thought, you know, it's not worth it. And so I did. I did. I cut him. And I was trying to decide between Carlos Williams, who you picked up on Fab to replace him, or James Starks just because he looked really good. He did look very good in preseason, and I know he's more of a valuable.

[Mike Wright]

If Marshawn Lynn. Let's say he goes to Seattle. Fred Jackson's in Seattle. Who's the more valuable handcuff. Is it. If the top guy went down, is it James Starks, or is it Fred Jackson?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, if the top guy went down.

[Mike Wright]

In both cases, isn't that the reason you own either of those guys?

[Andy Holloway]

Then I would definitely go Starks without a doubt.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

I would agree.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, just because you think Fred Jackson probably wouldn't carry a full workload.

[Jason Moore]

Correct. So they're going to use Turbine. They. They seem to like him. They think he's a reliable guy. Yeah. And he's okay.

[Mike Wright]

Now, the last bit of Fred Jackson that we didn't really address yesterday because Jason's story was just too entertaining. And so I apologize for this. Who is the handcuff for the Sean McCoy, everybody.

[Jason Moore]

It's got to be Carlos.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Carlos Williams, rookie coming back. They like him. He's looked good. So Carlos Williams, the guy you want to own, if you're a McCoy owner, which you should definitely own.

[Jason Moore]

Carlos Williams, he's been listening to too much Disturbed, though, because he's down with the sickness.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, well, he's gonna get better. Fred Jackson's gone, so.

[Jason Moore]

No, no. I thought that was a good one.

[Mike Wright]

It's all right. Not really sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Some people like.

[Mike Wright]

It's a good. It's a good one. If people know that Carlos Williams was down with the sickness, it's bad. If most people don't know that, which I don't know if everybody does. Decent. All right, let's get into the news.

[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league.

[Mike Wright]

Mike. Most of the time, you hit. Sometimes you miss. It's okay. I've said it ever since the Marty McBride thing came out. I think you're. You just are on a streak where you think you're invincible and you're not.

[Jason Moore]

That is 100% accurate.

[Mike Wright]

I expected his hate blocker glasses to come down over his eyes as he said that. All right. Out of. We talked about it. Expected to sign Fred Jackson. That's the expectation right now.

[Jason Moore]

And the one last thing with Fred Jackson is the Ravens were poking around at Fred Jackson. That would lead you to believe that they are not completely happy with Buck Allen. Right now, they're not comfortable.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So look for the Ravens to add a backup while Lorenzo Taliaferro deals with his, I believe was MCL Spring.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's talk about two underwhelming running backs that have been. One is waived. One might be waived Trent Richardson. His career arc continues to just. I think it might be over. So the Raiders have waived Trent Richardson. This is expected. We've been talking about it for a couple weeks. And then Monte Ball looks like he may be in danger of losing his roster spot in Denver. This means Ronnie Hillman really is the guy you want to own other than CJ Anderson. And honestly, I've hated Monte Ball for about two years. Not personally, just with my eyeballs looking at the screen. I just think he has nothing special about him. That's all I've ever said is I watch him play and there's nothing unique or special he brings to the football field.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, last year, I'm sure.

[Mike Wright]

Sorry, Monte.

[Andy Holloway]

A lot of people were burned last year by taking Hillman early or taking Ball early. But, Andy, you. To your credit, you definitely said he was just pedestrian, just average across the board.

[Mike Wright]

Just a dude. He'll play somewhere as a dude somewhere else, but he's just.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think he'll get cut. I mean, it's still a volatile position with injury concerns, and he might not be on the active roster on a weekly basis, but I would be surprised if they cut him.

[Mike Wright]

All right, we had a little bit of panic.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my goodness.

[Mike Wright]

Shutter through the studio. Out of Chief's camp, there was some news that Kelsey. Travis. Kelsey Zeus went down with an ankle injury, but the reports are that he's fine.

[Jason Moore]

The.

[Mike Wright]

Don't worry.

[Andy Holloway]

The.

[Jason Moore]

The. Pray for Zeus. The hashtag, I think, was pretty close to trending on Twitter. If you were on there. I was freaking out a little bit because the guy who broke it on Twitter, this is it. Basically said this Travis Kelsey leg injury was walked off on her own power. Have no idea how bad it is. Like, okay, well, when you word it like that, after we saw what happened.

[Mike Wright]

To Jordy, I would say that sounds exactly like the Jordy Nelson news.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, sounds like a knee.

[Jason Moore]

Everybody is freaking out. Freaking out.

[Mike Wright]

This is the time to be scared because a lot of drafts have now happened. So.

[Andy Holloway]

But.

[Jason Moore]

But we're hearing Ian Rapaport himself reported it was a rolled ankle and Travis Kelsey tweeted a meme of himself with a smile.

[Mike Wright]

All right, that's good. This is big news. If you've drafted Julius Thomas or thinking about drafting him, it looks like surgery is going to happen for that hand. So instead of a week one expectation to get back on the field, week four is looking more like the target date. So if you own Julius, what do you do? Do you hold on to Julius?

[Andy Holloway]

You do not.

[Mike Wright]

I do not.

[Andy Holloway]

I do not. If I don't have an IRR spot now, if I can just move him to the injured reserve, then absolutely hold on to him. But for me in my rankings prior to this, I had him as a middle of the pack. Actually later I think he's like 10 or something in my rankings. And so why would I hold a roster spot for a 10th ranked tight end, you know, who's going to miss the first four weeks and he was 10th ranked with 16. So.

[Mike Wright]

So go ahead.

[Jason Moore]

Here's what the Julius Thomas news does now. Instead of the instant gratification of being disappointed, you can wait four weeks and.

[Mike Wright]

Be disappointed if both guys came back in Week 5. Antonio Gates or Julius Thomas?

[Jason Moore]

Gates.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, for sure.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, that's a good question for Pete.

[Jason Moore]

And Gates is for sure Gates will come back week five because it's only a four game suspension.

[Mike Wright]

Here's a trick or not a trick question. I'm just curious if you know, this is a regular question. What did Antonio Gates finish last year at the tight end position? Number two Deuce Number two. Number two on the stream not been talked about enough. And he's played just like last year in the preseason. He's just missing those four games. So last bit of news here. I Joy Bell, I was waiting for.

[Jason Moore]

The streamers and choir.

[Mike Wright]

As expected, Joyk is activated from the PUP list. There's also as expected.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, of course you expected it four weeks ago.

[Andy Holloway]

As expected months ago is like.

[Mike Wright]

I never said such a thing.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah, but the Lions did and.

[Mike Wright]

Well, the Lions also one of their beat writers came out and just confirmed what we all know, that Joyk Bell is the starter. So you know on track to laugh in your faces soon enough. And out of Colts camp, Ty Hilton was dealing with a concussion protocol. The reports early this morning are that he should be cleared and that's good news in advance of Week 4, which I'm sure he won't play in Week 4, but he'll be ready for the season. Yes, that sounds good for the news.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that sounds good to me.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Press on. Random sound. All right, let's talk Philly and Green Bay. This was one heck of a game. This is the game that involved the shoulder injury to Randall Cobb that sent Twitter fears all over the place.

[Jason Moore]

Twitter is not a place you want to be if you're emotionally unstable, I will tell you that.

[Mike Wright]

It is also a place where you will find people that are emotionally unstable. So this game was ultimately a coming out party for the Sam Bradford led Philadelphia Eagles. My goodness, he had as good of a preseason game anybody could have. 10 for 10, three touchdowns. He really, when I watched this game, I was impressed by the fact he stood in the pocket, he took a couple big hits and man, accuracy wise, he was on the money. Everything from a touch throw to Darren Sprols in the corner of the end zone to leading his receivers left to right across the field. And DeMarco Murray was involved a lot too. So what were some impressions you got of that Philadelphia offense beyond that?

[Andy Holloway]

Or is that every time, every time they went to run the ball, it looked different than most of the other teams in the league this year. It didn't seem like the same type of schemes where guys were running into a pile or trying to get around him. There was just real open room everywhere on the field because they spread it out so much. DeMarco Murray was used a lot in the beginning. I mean, that drive he was, he was catching passes, he was running the ball, and every time he was getting five yards. So Murray to me is a guy that, you know, I said this, I think after last week, but I really do want this backfield. I want Murray and I want Matthews. Matthews still came in in the red zone again and was used and heck Throwing Darren Sprolz because he looked pretty good too.

[Jason Moore]

And then switching over to Green Bay, Ty Montgomery, man, he looked, he looked pretty decent. He took a. And it wasn't even Aaron Rodgers in the game. And there was a quick slant or in route, I can't remember, and very, very short. And he cut it up the field and he pretty much, he got very, very close to breaking it all the way. And he just, he looked very sharp.

[Andy Holloway]

There's a huge debate between Ty Montgomery or Jeff Janis. And there are people out there that are 100% screaming at people that it has to be Jeff Janis, that he is the guy. And you're a fool if you think that it's anyone else, including even Devonte Adams. They think that Jeff Janis is going to actually be the one in that role. And while we don't know the future, I want my name on record in agreement with you, Mike, assuming that ty Montgomery is 100% the third guy that you want there. And Jeff Janis I just don't think is going to be.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to set this up because I know the tweets and the Photoshops are coming. Jeff Janis is a big streaker. That's what he does. He's on the out, he runs the nine and he's very tall and he can catch touchdowns here and there. But Ty Montgomery is the guy you.

[Mike Wright]

Want on the field more often and in finesse. You're talking about just having a practical week to week better performance from Ty Montgomery.

[Jason Moore]

Correct.

[Mike Wright]

Which I kind of agree with. He was like, I've said, he's a standout in college, he's a third round pick. I was thinking about this yesterday. If I'm Ty Montgomery and I'm sitting in the draft room and the situation ends up being where I get drafted by the packers who have Aaron Rodgers in the third round and then Jordy Nelson goes down in front of me. So year one I get to, I mean, just incredible because you could be in a million different situations. He could be running eight routes for the Browns right now, but instead he's got Aaron Rodgers as his quarterback and an opportunity to make an impact in week one.

[Andy Holloway]

And it is still. Yeah, I was going to say week one. It is still possible Randall Cobb with that shoulder could miss week one. It doesn't look like that, but it's possible. And if that happens, Ty Montgomery is a great start.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's talk a little bit about the Indianapolis St. Louis game. I saw Andrew Luck get picked in this Game.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

And we didn't see very much of Frank Gore.

[Andy Holloway]

Did he play at all? I thought he.

[Mike Wright]

Did he take any.

[Jason Moore]

Not that I saw.

[Mike Wright]

See, I told you, not very much.

[Andy Holloway]

We did not see much of Frank.

[Mike Wright]

I didn't see him at all.

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't see much of Adrian Peterson either.

[Mike Wright]

No. So Boom Heron was in there and.

[Jason Moore]

Boom Heron looked good.

[Mike Wright]

He's the number two guy.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, he's the cuff right now.

[Mike Wright]

Josh Robinson behind him.

[Jason Moore]

There's talk of Robinson, but right now it's Boom Heron and he looked good. I mean, and this is St. Louis is supposed to be a monster defense, especially up front. And there was holes and things opening up that Herron got to use. And Heron's a great pass catching back. So I, I think he's a good guy to stash. If you're the Gore, let's say you're the Gore owner and you aren't a little bit worried about the mileage, the age, whatever. Just hold on to Boom Heron and I think you have a good opportunity there.

[Mike Wright]

And Mike, you made a note of saying Tre Mason looked really good. Now he has the hamstring injury, so.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he looked very good before the hamstring injury.

[Andy Holloway]

You know what I saw that I thought was really good news for the Rams because one of the notes I wrote down was, you know, yucky offense, so that's not the good news. But they were running their, their sets, so they, I, I don't remember like a team that ran this many two wide receiver sets. I felt like every play there were just two wide receivers on the field or, you know, it was just not a good looking offense. But they were dedicated to running the ball. And so for Todd Gurley owners long term, I mean, that's looking really good. They want to define themselves as a, as a running team. And Todd Gurley, especially with Trey Mason out, it's going to force his, you know, recovery along a little bit quicker. So.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's go talk about Captain Kirk Washington in Baltimore that preseason game. We now know that Kirk Cousins will start the year as the starting quarterback for the Washington Redskins. So if you had to own a Redskins wide receiver, I assume it's desean Jackson.

[Jason Moore]

Correct.

[Mike Wright]

Ahead of P. Yes, just on Jack.

[Jason Moore]

And the funniest thing to me about Captain Kirk is I could take just one game, right? And if I, through careful editing, you can make. There's Captain Kirk. You can make, you can make Captain Kirk look like the absolute worst NFL quarterback of all time, or you could chop it up and make him look like one of the best quarterback single game you you have from play to play. You have no idea what he's going to do.

[Andy Holloway]

I got to be honest with you, I think that the Redskins offense is a mess and it's too. I think this was the right move to make but they just don't look that good. And to be quite honest, and I don't want to overreact from preseason but I really did not like the look of Alf and I wanted to look up his splits with or without RG3 because I believe from memory that he was a much better running back. You are correct when RG3 was on the field. So we'll try to look that up during this show. But it's just a worry to me with with RG3 off with Alfred Morris, you know, looking a little slower. Maybe this is bad news for Morris. So I'm gonna. I'm gonna.

[Jason Moore]

And I'm moving effort that right. I'm moving Steve Smith up. I've held him down for too long.

[Mike Wright]

And he couldn't believe you didn't draft him in our draft on Sunday.

[Jason Moore]

He's just held down.

[Mike Wright]

You were looking for a wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

He's held down too much and because I've just have this feeling that he's going to do the same thing where he'll break down. I guess you could.

[Mike Wright]

He probably will. But you can ride it.

[Jason Moore]

You could ride that hot start. But. So I'm moving him up. He's going to be highly targeted and he's still got some juice left.

[Mike Wright]

I will say this about Washington. The Dolphins are probably the best defense to own right now to start the season. They have like six good matchups to start the year and they start this season against Washington and we just talked about that offense so I. All right, let's move over to Chicago and Cincinnati. The enigmatic Cincinnati Bengals.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they were a little more down to earth this time. A lot of Jeremy Hill and Jeremy Hill getting in on third downs which.

[Mike Wright]

Is not very little. Geo between the tackles.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, but so Jeremy Hill and third downs. Like to see Geo still going to get some snaps. I'm not. I've never said that Jeremy Hill will take 90% of the the share. I just think that he will take more of the third downs and that seems to be what they're showing in the preseason. Which is why I love Hill so much. The if you saw him on the end zone or they got to the five yard line and they pounded it three times. He didn't get it well, he got in but the review was didn't Dalton.

[Mike Wright]

Ended up because the review was bush league.

[Jason Moore]

He got in but they called it back and then they called a sneak. But the good news was they ran it three straight times from the five.

[Mike Wright]

What are you guys thoughts on Martellus Bennett now that we have some injury to. I mean Jeffrey should be back week one. We don't know for sure. We like Eddie Royal a little bit but do you guys have your thoughts changed at all about Martellus Bennett?

[Andy Holloway]

Martellus Bennett to me is like a poor man's Greg Olson to start the year. If Alshon Jeffries out, it's kind of like, you know, the loss of Kelvin Benjamin where you just have to target somebody and he's the biggest only good target left. I mean Eddie Royal still there, but you know you lost Brandon Marshall if Alshon Jeffries out also, Martellus Bennett has a history of starting the year strong. I mean every year he starts with great couple of games and then kind of tails off. So if you're looking for, you know, an early guy, I like Martellus Bennett a lot. I think he's going to get a.

[Mike Wright]

Lot of targets and I will say we expect Jeffrey to be back, but I think that's true. I mean Bennett had a kind of coming out party last year under Trustman and so the concern has been that he'll regress back to kind of his normal numbers, which doesn't make him a high draft pick by any means.

[Jason Moore]

So.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's move over to Minnesota and Dallas. We continue to see this is the fourth time we've seen Teddy Bridgewater look kind of steady. Steady Teddy is the phrase I've been hearing.

[Jason Moore]

Steady Teddy.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Wait, I just want to go back and point out one too late. Oh, all right, nevermind, let's go on. No, the one thing I want to point out because we've as a group been down on him, but Matt Forte looked like he was running just fine. He looked spry and healthy and so I'm just throwing that out there from a standpoint of don't be too scared off from what we've said about the potential to fall off because he looked.

[Jason Moore]

Well, what we've said is he's a low end RB1. Yeah, we don't think he's a top five pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think that's fair. I think that's fair.

[Jason Moore]

And what I saw of him, I completely have not changed my opinion.

[Mike Wright]

Really? I agree with you. And the two previous preseason games add to that, I would just say you got to take it as a whole. I mean, he might have looked good that game, but he still stays. I mean, he's still a top 12 guy for all of us. It's just a matter of the offense isn't going to dump him the ball as much, I don't think.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct.

[Mike Wright]

But. But to Jason's point, if Jeffrey's out and time is missed, he'll be somebody who catches the ball more. So let's talk about Minnesota, Dallas, a little bit more steady. Teddy throwing the ball. Threw a great deep ball down the sideline to Mike Wallace. That was very involved.

[Jason Moore]

That was a man. That throw was right on the money. There was no margin for error on the sideline. Throw was fantastic.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he was. So Teddy Bridgewater, you drafted him on Sunday as your quarterback?

[Jason Moore]

I took him as my quarterback. 1.

[Mike Wright]

We give me touchdown numbers for Teddy Bridgewater because that's the concern for me is that I just don't know how high they can get.

[Jason Moore]

I think he can get in the high 20s.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

And possibly. Possibly low 30s. I think the. I think the offense is going to really take off. He didn't even. He didn't play full year.

[Mike Wright]

He's my number one quarterback that wears gloves.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Because Kurt Warner doesn't play anymore.

[Mike Wright]

It doesn't play anymore.

[Jason Moore]

But the offense, you could see it ascending last year, tossed in a Hall of Fame running back. It just gets even better.

[Mike Wright]

It should be very, very good. And their head coach is known to bring the best out of the defensive unit. And so this is a team that I really think if you were in Vegas and you. I take the over on their win total because I think it's at seven and a half right now.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think I would play into that.

[Mike Wright]

Let's talk about Cleveland and Tampa. Did you see Josh, just for a minute.

[Jason Moore]

Did you see McCown get blown up?

[Mike Wright]

I didn't see that play.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my goodness.

[Mike Wright]

So Josh, Jason's back.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, he got. I mean, it just shows you there's. There's cement in his head already because there's no way you like serve. He got blown off.

[Jason Moore]

He pulled the. He's. He had booted out of the pocket and he's playing the game, the chicken game with the, the linebacker of. Am I going to run it or am I going to throw it? The linebacker put everything on run and blew him up. Nasty.

[Andy Holloway]

You know what it reminded me of? I started playing Madden when you, when you're, when you're looking downfield and you don't even see that there's a pass. I'm telling you, he had no idea that guy was there. His eyes, credit to him were downfield, but no peripheral vision. He got smashed straight on.

[Jason Moore]

So Back to fantasy. McCown. 17 of 23, two touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

McCown is an okay quarterback. He's not great. He's not. He's not what he was at the Chicago Bears where he was just. Every pass he threw was a touchdown. But I think that he's an okay quarterback guy, though. The weapons there aren't going to lead to a high powered offense. But this is why I like Dwayne Bowe as a later round flyer guy.

[Mike Wright]

Because I would take Heartline in a. In a second over Dwayne.

[Jason Moore]

Bo, do you want to have the grossest, unsexiest water bet of all time?

[Mike Wright]

So is it heart? Just heartline?

[Jason Moore]

Heartline versus both.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's do it. Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

Water bet.

[Jason Moore]

That's a vomit bet.

[Andy Holloway]

I would get on Andy's side, but I'm just too grossed out by participation.

[Mike Wright]

That's my favorite bet because I hope I win with like eight, you know, 18 catches for 384 yards. And you know, that would be really good yards catch.

[Jason Moore]

Bo still has to get the chemistry going with McCown, but it's. Yeah, there's. There's some value. There is. Right, Right.

[Mike Wright]

That's my favorite bet. I hope that one you don't get watered. You get like sludged or something. Like they just. You throw something nasty on yourself. All right, so let's talk about Tampa for a second before we move on. Not. Not as smooth of a game for Winston.

[Jason Moore]

Well, he was.

[Mike Wright]

It's pretty much the preseason is what you're gonna see all year. The news down all around.

[Jason Moore]

The news was that he's playing on a sprained ankle.

[Mike Wright]

Well, great. You know what if you're out on the field.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just saying. That's saying.

[Mike Wright]

So why is he playing on a sprained ankle in preseason?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, because he needs reps and he's Jameis Winston and he's a. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know how to handle these rookie quarterbacks. I appreciate the help.

[Jason Moore]

You're welcome.

[Mike Wright]

Is it so Evans? Vincent Jackson, Doug Martin. Doug Martin's looked fine. He's looked really good. He had kind of a hot and cold game where he was getting stuffed at the line and then he broke off some big runs.

[Jason Moore]

Is he in the second round yet of adp?

[Mike Wright]

I hope not.

[Andy Holloway]

Great.

[Mike Wright]

He, you know, he lasted a very, very long time in our draft. So he's still a value.

[Jason Moore]

So they will speak to the Doug Martin enigma again, people. Maybe he's back, but there's. We have three preseason games of him looking okay and we have two years of him looking bad. So do not reach on Doug Martin in the fourth round. He just. I don't think you're going to be happy with your return if he's in the fifth round. Okay. Maybe I'll start thinking about what if.

[Mike Wright]

He'S a. Oh, go ahead.

[Andy Holloway]

His ceiling is not what we hoped it was after his rookie campaign because their offensive line is really bad. And you, you spoke to it already. He was hot and cold that game. Right. I was writing down notes about how Martin didn't look good all game and then he busted off that 19 yard touchdown run and was like, oh, you know, his yards per carry went up. But the rest of the game, every time they snap the ball, the offensive line was a real problem there.

[Mike Wright]

And so let me, let me ask you this. This is an important question, okay? Because a lot of people are going to go wide receiver, wide receiver to start a draft and they're going to be staring down running backs to fill out that starting running back core in the third, fourth, fifth, sixth round. If you are one of those teams and you, let's say you went first two rounds, you got wide receivers, would you rather have Doug Martin or Amir Abdullah Abdullah, even with the unknowns as to workload, because you know Martin will have a workload. That's the question. That's why I'm throwing it out. There is you have to have a RB1 or an RB2. You're still rolling out Abdullah over Doug Martin.

[Jason Moore]

Ceiling, ceiling. To me, upside.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but I mean that you can't only pay attention to upside, right?

[Jason Moore]

No, but, but when you're, when you've punted a bit on your running backs, you want upside.

[Mike Wright]

See, that's a, I think that's a competing philosophy because I, I might. If I've punted on running backs, I want a guy I know is going to get the rock versus taking a David Johnson or somebody like that who I don't know their performance like, I'd rather roll Ivory and Martin out there every week with my top tier wide receivers than I would Abdullah. And, and, but so, and when you're.

[Jason Moore]

Woodhead, when you're punting on running back, you are, you're taking these backup type guys who you're anticipating the opportunity will come for one of them to turn into a lead back. That's Kind of what the overall strategy is up in Detroit. That's not a bad bet to take. With Joy Bell just coming off of pup, he has to get back in game shape in a week and his.

[Mike Wright]

Don't worry about it.

[Jason Moore]

His chance for re injuring while he's training is completely existent. It could happen. And that's more likely to happen than for Doug Martin to return to running back.

[Andy Holloway]

One for the guy that came to mind while you were saying this was Chris Ivory. Just because he's going behind both of those guys. He's got an offensive. He's got an offensive line that is good. And so I think that will run. Yeah. And so I see what you're saying, Andy, and I think that you do need. If you don't have any running backs yet, you have to get a guy that you know is playing starting.

[Mike Wright]

I think really what we got out of that and I'm glad we discussed it because people face that all the time. And we get all these draft reports where I can see people face it all the time, they stared that decision down and they're running out Doug Martin or the running out an upside guy. And I think it's kind of about what kind of owner you are.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Are you risk averse? Do you want solid production? I mean, it's standard PPR matters to me too in those situations.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

Right now I just looked this up and Doug Martin is going ahead of Amir Abdullah, Arian Foster, Jonathan Stewart and Chris Ivory. And personally, I would take all of those guys.

[Mike Wright]

Would you say he's going ahead of Jonathan Stewart?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, yes.

[Mike Wright]

We talked about the talk show host though, not the running back. That'd be. That would be silly.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Because we talked about this last week.

[Mike Wright]

I know.

[Jason Moore]

And it's crazy.

[Mike Wright]

Sometimes when crazy things happen, you think they're dreams and you don't remember that you actually discussed them in real life.

[Andy Holloway]

So since we've already tangented, let me go back to. Because I had looked up.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, did you look the splits up?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, the splits up on Alfred Morris. So can you do the splits? Alfred Morris is super flexible.

[Jason Moore]

You haven't seen him like Van Damme on the semis.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that was nice. So he's had 37 games with RG3 and 11 without. So good. Good enough sample size, I think to look. And so he's dropped two full fan over two fantasy points per game without RG3. And the thing is, is how that breaks down same amount of carries, but he gets 20 less yards per game in 11 contests.

[Mike Wright]

So I do think that you're saying with cousins.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Without RG3.

[Mike Wright]

Without RG3.

[Andy Holloway]

Because you don't have the same type of read option that kind of freezes that defense.

[Mike Wright]

I'm glad you brought us back to it because it's important for people to know. And, you know, every time these changes happen, Tyrod Taylor in Buffalo, Fred Jackson moving to Seattle, all these little changes impact players. And so for Cousins coming in, people want to know, is it good or bad for Morris?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And at least historically, it's been bad.

[Andy Holloway]

He's still going to be a starting running back and good and have value. We're not saying don't, you know, steer.

[Mike Wright]

Clear, but Jonathan Stewart. Alfred Morris.

[Jason Moore]

Stewart.

[Andy Holloway]

Stewart.

[Mike Wright]

Jonathan Stewart or I mean, Alfred Morris or Doug Martin.

[Andy Holloway]

Alfred Morris.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. That's what I assume, but just making sure. All right, let's go ahead and talk about one last game here before we answer a couple of mailbag questions. Atlanta, Miami. Anything stand out to you from that game?

[Jason Moore]

Jarvis Landry. My goodness.

[Mike Wright]

Dude. I mean, he's just the guy we've.

[Jason Moore]

Been talking about all off season.

[Mike Wright]

Tannehill looks great.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, Jarvis Landry. Who's going to get. Man, like, he might be.

[Mike Wright]

115 catches.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I'm saying he might have to be like the target monster, part B.

[Mike Wright]

He's going to get more catches than Alan Robinson. I bet you that 5,000 times.

[Jason Moore]

Well, it's very possible. I'm not going to. I'm not going to deny that.

[Andy Holloway]

You know who stuck out to me was Lamar Miller. I mean, his usage. He was on the. He was on the field every play. They threw him the ball a ton.

[Mike Wright]

They.

[Andy Holloway]

They ran it to him. They trusted him, and they're going to use him. And so I was already trying to trade for Lamar Miller and all this.

[Mike Wright]

Just so you're aware, this is very important. Tevin Coleman looked terrible.

[Andy Holloway]

The old line.

[Mike Wright]

I know. I'm just pointing out Coleman because I'm a devontae Freeman guy.

[Jason Moore]

How did Freeman look?

[Mike Wright]

Well, he was resting up for week one. Like those starting running backs, too?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Like Joy.

[Mike Wright]

Joy. Or Adrian Peterson. Aaron Boster. Yeah, Aaron Boster's resting up.

[Andy Holloway]

Joy Bell.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

And Devonta Freeman.

[Mike Wright]

All right. We don't got a lot of time, but let's get into the mailbag a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

Mailbag.

[Mike Wright]

I was hoping for a Joy bag. No. All right. If you have a question, you go to the website, click the Submit a question button. We try to answer a few on every show. You can also leave us a voicemail question 302464 TFFB. So we're going to start today's mailbag. We just got a little dip. Just. Just a little dip into the mailbag.

[Jason Moore]

This is a male b.a mail b.

[Andy Holloway]

Male.

[Jason Moore]

Male. Male Satchel.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's go ahead and listen to this one here. Hey, this is after Moyne. I just wanted to thank you guys for exposing Fred Jackson because now he's going to go to Seattle and injure Marshawn Lynch. So thanks for ruining my fantasy season, guys. But anyways, I was wondering, when is it too early to do draft a receiver and a three row receiver in the flex league? Also ppr. Thanks, guys.

[Jason Moore]

We haven't even mentioned the dangerous situation that Marshawn lynch is in.

[Mike Wright]

No, we. I sent an email out to his people just to say, watch out. If anybody's immune from the depth chart assassin, it's Marshawn Lynch. He's just got.

[Jason Moore]

He's just too good, too beastly.

[Mike Wright]

But to answer your question, it's never too early to draft a wide receiver in a league that has three wide receivers and a flex. It changes the position Scarcity argument that we make for running backs instantly when you have doubled the amount or at least an additional wide receiver to start.

[Andy Holloway]

Wasn't Beast Mode injured when he was in Buffalo with Fred Jackson? Incredible.

[Jason Moore]

Because Fred Jackson poisons people.

[Andy Holloway]

I love Fred Jackson.

[Mike Wright]

No, this is just. What if it's less intentional? It's more accidental. What if he's the guy who, you know, he has his meal and he accidentally leaves the knife out at the end of the table? It's just incidental, accidental stuff. Fred Jackson's a happy man.

[Jason Moore]

If Fred Jackson offers you some supplements or not or tea, you don't take them, they're gonna break down your body.

[Andy Holloway]

Kindly refuse.

[Mike Wright]

If he asks you to try out a new workout routine, please avoid it.

[Andy Holloway]

If he invites you over for dinner, say you have plans, it's like Wile.

[Jason Moore]

E. Coyote's like, can you stand on that X real quick? Then hold this. Hold these flowers that are sparkling like.

[Mike Wright]

Dynamite depth chart assassin. I want to bet that Marshawn lynch talked to management and said, look, bring this guy in here. That's what I assume.

[Jason Moore]

So back to the question. No problem. First in a three wide with a flex ppr, I'll take Antonio Brown the first round. Absolutely.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So you agree, Jason?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, 100%.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Juice.

[Mike Wright]

Juice from Milwaukee said, I have a feeling about Stevie Johnson. I like the guy. Do I drop Marcus Colston for him. I don't like how up in the air the receiver situation is in New Orleans. That is a very good question.

[Jason Moore]

Is this, is this Juice from the movie Blank Check?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my goodness. Do you. I remember that movie. That was finally. That was one of the best movies as a kid because you just kept pretending it was you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Dreaming. You get the blank check.

[Jason Moore]

It was like rookie of the year.

[Mike Wright]

I just don't understand. I never understood how he actually got the money. He showed up and they gave him the money at the bank. And because of Juice. Well, I don't remember character names, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

So Juice, I would say. No, that's, that's a great. I mean, when you're talking about Marcus Colston and Stevie Johnson, I'm sticking with Colson for now. I would go Stevie Johnson personally. But the point here is that these two guys are really, I mean, we can, we can analyze and overanalyze all you want, but these two guys, it comes down to a gut feeling. And you know, if you have a gut feeling on Stevie Johnson, then do it because otherwise you're going to be upset.

[Jason Moore]

And I've actually fielded this exact question quite a few times and I give the same answer. You really need to go with your gut. I would lean at this point. I would lean Stevie because I think his career is still at the uptick of his career while Colston, I think is going down. And we've seen that with Coleman replacing him in with first string offense, too wide. They're putting Coleman in and not Colston. So I just, I think they're very, very close though.

[Mike Wright]

As funny as it is, I think in a standard league I stake Holston and in a ppr, I probably go Stevie Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

That makes sense.

[Mike Wright]

So that's all the time we have for the Mailbag today. But do not fear, if you've submitted a question, we have a. We have a special guest on tomorrow's show. Christopher Harris from the Harris Football Podcast will be on the show and I'm going to ask him about a lot of these situations. The Falcons running backs, the Redskins wide receivers, the Browns running backs, all of these head to head kind of matchups. Who's he leaning on right now? I'm going to ask those questions, but we're going to spend a lot of time in the mailbag answering questions from you guys. So make sure you tune in tomorrow. Visit us on YouTube, check us out on Twitter theffballers. And if you're interested in kind of joining in with what we're doing here? Check out jointhefoot.com Any other thoughts, guys?

[Jason Moore]

Juice, Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.thefantasyfootballers.com and follow us on Twitter at theffballers.