Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Live 10 Team Mock Draft, Fantasy Questions

Summary

Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Live 10 Team Mock Draft, Fantasy Questions

Host/Author: The Fantasy Footballers
Release Date: July 21, 2015
Episode Title: Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Live 10 Team Mock Draft, Fantasy Questions

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Introduction

In this episode of The Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright dive into a live mock draft tailored for a 10-team league. The trio emphasizes the importance of mock drafting to prepare listeners for their upcoming fantasy football seasons. The episode seamlessly blends strategic drafting insights with engaging banter, ensuring both novice and seasoned fantasy managers find value.

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Live Mock Draft Overview

Setting the Stage:

• Jason Moore introduces the mock draft parameters: a 10-team snake draft using ESPN's Average Draft Position (ADP) as a benchmark. The roster setup includes two running backs, two wide receivers, and one flex position ([00:41]).

First Round Picks:

• Jason Moore outlines the initial picks, highlighting top running backs like Eddie Lacy, Adrian Peterson, and Marshawn Lynch. Notably, Arian Foster secures the sixth pick, reflecting his perceived value ([10:04]). Antonio Brown, DeMarco Murray, and CJ Anderson follow in the early rounds, setting a competitive tone for the draft.

Key Decision Points:

• Andy Holloway debates between selecting CJ Anderson and other available running backs, ultimately leaning towards Ryan Matthews due to potential workload and favorable team dynamics ([03:10]).
• Mike Wright expresses interest in David Johnson, who is being drafted late, emphasizing his role as a goal-line scorer ([03:48]).

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Strategy Discussion

Running Backs vs. Wide Receivers:

• The hosts deliberate the balance between securing top-tier running backs and wide receivers. Andy favors LaShawn McCoy for his guaranteed volume in a standard league, while Jason concurs, noting potential inconsistencies with McCoy's offensive line but valuing his expected workload ([12:17]).

Tight Ends and Quarterbacks:

• Rob Gronkowski is selected as the tight end, demonstrating the importance of securing a reliable position early. The hosts discuss the relative scarcity of elite tight ends compared to other positions ([14:30]).
• The decision to pass on drafting a quarterback early is emphasized, with Jason advocating for a streaming strategy due to the plethora of viable QBs available in later rounds ([35:00]).

Key Takeaways:

• Jason Moore emphasizes the significance of positional scarcity and value, advising against overreaching for certain positions early in the draft ([35:14]).
• Andy Holloway underscores the importance of spreading risk and not relying heavily on uncertain prospects, advocating for tried-and-true players ([47:25]).

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Listener Questions

Keeper League Strategies:

• A listener from Michigan asks about keeping two specific players: Brandon Cooks, Kelvin Benjamin, and Latavius Murray. The hosts recommend selecting Brandon Cooks and Latavius Murray for their potential and current performance, ensuring a balanced and competitive team ([45:07]).

Draft Strategies in Two-Quarterback Leagues:

• A listener from Orlando, Florida, inquires about the effectiveness of drafting two quarterbacks in a two-quarterback league with unique scoring rules. Andy Holloway and Jason Moore advise against this strategy, highlighting the risks involved in relying heavily on quarterbacks early and suggesting focusing on other key positions instead ([48:02]).

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Rapid Fire Round

The hosts engage in a quick-paced segment addressing spontaneous questions from listeners:

1. Anquan Bolden vs. Marcus Colston:

   • All Hosts favor Anquan Bolden for his versatility and potential impact ([46:02]).

2. Frank Gore vs. Mark Ingram:

   • Mike Wright opts for Frank Gore, valuing his consistent performance and goal-line opportunities ([46:06]).

3. Ben Roethlisberger vs. Matt Ryan vs. Tony Romo:

   • Andy Holloway selects Matt Ryan for his stability and expected improvement ([46:10]).

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Mock Draft Highlights and Final Roster

Final Team Composition:

• Running Backs: LaShawn McCoy, Frank Gore, LeGarrett Blunt, and Joseph Randall
• Wide Receivers: Mike Evans, Andre Johnson, Martavis Bryant
• Tight End: Rob Gronkowski
• Additional Picks: LeGarrett Blunt and Joseph Randall bolster the RB depth, while strategic wide receiver selections like Martavis Bryant add high upside to the roster ([27:48]).

Strategic Decisions:

• LeGarrett Blunt is added for his touchdown potential, despite a one-game suspension, with the team’s depth allowing for flexibility ([24:41]).
• Andre Johnson is chosen over alternative receivers like Martavis Bryant, balancing consistency with potential breakout performances ([27:12]).

Defense and Kicker Choices:

• Andy Holloway advocates for the Jets defense, praising key players like Reavis Island and Antonio Cromartie, alongside strategic coaching leadership from Todd Bowles ([41:34]).
• The team chooses to stream the quarterback spot, prioritizing flexibility and response to weekly matchups over early investment in a specific QB.

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Conclusion

The episode wraps up with the hosts reflecting on their mock draft strategies and team composition. They emphasize the importance of adaptability, depth, and leveraging position scarcity to build a competitive fantasy football team. Jason Moore highlights the benefits of mock drafting tools like FantaDraftWizard.com, encouraging listeners to engage in mock drafts to refine their strategies ([43:20]).

Upcoming Episodes:
Listeners are teased about future content, including interviews with notable fantasy football personalities and deeper dives into player metrics and projections.

Final Remarks:
The hosts invite listeners to submit questions and engage with them via social media, reinforcing the community-driven aspect of the podcast.

Notable Quotes:

• Jason Moore ([10:04]): "As someone who thinks Arian Foster is the best back in football this year, I'm seeing him move up a little bit."
• Andy Holloway ([12:17]): "LaShawn McCoy is going to be given the ball all year long. I do have concerns, but he's the pick."
• Mike Wright ([24:19]): "I like having multiple running backs gives us a strong foundation."

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This episode serves as a comprehensive guide for fantasy football enthusiasts, blending insightful drafting strategies with relatable dialogue. Whether you're new to fantasy football or a seasoned manager, the discussed mock draft provides valuable lessons in team construction and strategic planning.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Foreign to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the show. It is Tuesday, July 21, and we are the Fantasy Footballers.

[Andy Holloway]

You speak the truth.

[Jason Moore]

I do. And it is a new week.

[Mike Wright]

Who else would we be?

[Jason Moore]

This is Andy Holloway. I'm joined as always by Mike the fantasy hitman. Right. And Jason Moore.

[Andy Holloway]

Hello out there, people.

[Jason Moore]

We are back again. We've got a great show for you today. We are doing a live mock draft.

[Mike Wright]

People like them, we got to keep bringing.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, we are. We're mixing it up a little bit today. We are doing a live mock draft. We're doing a 10 man league today. The two previous live mock drafts, we did 12 man leagues. We're also not going to be drafting against the consensus. We're going to be drafting against the ESPN ADP today and we're also going to be drafting from the 10th spot. So the turn you are in for a ride.

[Mike Wright]

And our roster setup is two, two and a flex, correct?

[Jason Moore]

That is correct.

[Mike Wright]

So two running back, two wide receiver, flex.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. So that. That is going to be fun. We're doing that today. We're going to talk through. I don't know. Did you hear the episode last Thursday, Mr. Pat Mayo.

[Mike Wright]

I heard it. I was there.

[Jason Moore]

I know. That was pretty good stuff. I want to remind if you didn't hear last Thursday's episode, it was a really. Mike had a really great sit down with Pat Mayo of the Fantasy Sports Network. They talked about everything and anything. And I'm bringing it up mostly because of how much Pat Mayo likes Joy Bell and Jeremy Macklin.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, goodness. Because I'm surprised I hadn't heard this earlier.

[Jason Moore]

A man after my own heart. It was just so great to hear because, you know, I come in here and you guys are over there saying dumb stuff and then it just goes to show you, it just weighs me down.

[Andy Holloway]

No analyst, ourselves included, can get everything right. That's so.

[Mike Wright]

I used to like Pat.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's brutal.

[Andy Holloway]

Patty.

[Jason Moore]

No. Good interview. Make sure you check out that episode. We're fresh off of a mailbag episode on Saturday where we were able to answer a lot of listener questions. I got a quick question for you guys today. What player are you targeting in the late rounds? So let's say round seven or later that you cannot wait to get on your roster.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I like the question.

[Mike Wright]

I'm gonna pull up the adp.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, let's see. Seventh round or later that I can't wait to have on my roster.

[Jason Moore]

It's a stumper you guys don't have a late round guy jumping out at you?

[Mike Wright]

Well, there's a guy in the seventh round.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

His. Oh, no, his first name, his last name start with the same letter.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I know who you're talking about. Choo Choo. Amir Abdullah.

[Andy Holloway]

Really? Is he that late?

[Mike Wright]

See, he's the.

[Jason Moore]

That surprises me.

[Mike Wright]

And the seventh round, right.

[Jason Moore]

He's moving up though.

[Andy Holloway]

I thought for sure.

[Mike Wright]

I'm in. I'm in 10 team.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, there you go.

[Mike Wright]

Let me move to 12.

[Andy Holloway]

I was gonna say we've talked him up enough where I think that he's gone up.

[Mike Wright]

He's in the 6th and 12th. Dang it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. You can't choose the same guy for every answer on every show.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to go with Ryan Matthews. I really want him on my team. I think that we don't know how the split, the carry split is going to break down between DeMarco Murray and Ryan Matthews.

[Jason Moore]

That's an interesting pick. You're excited to have Ryan Matthews on your roster.

[Andy Holloway]

I am.

[Mike Wright]

I think I was actually looking at that.

[Andy Holloway]

And I think that again, he's one of those. I mean, if we're talking late, I kind of went. I didn't care about seventh or later. I just went late. You want to earlier, maybe Zach Ertz like him too.

[Jason Moore]

That's going beyond that seventh round. But a guy you can't wait to get on your team.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

And for me, a guy who I've talked up a good bit, not nearly as much as Abdullah, but David Johnson, he's going in the 10th right now.

[Jason Moore]

It's interesting that both of you, I mean, just hearing both names. Those are both backups, I don't think on paper.

[Mike Wright]

And that's why it's so exciting that he's in the 10th.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Mike Wright]

I strongly believe that he. It might be a 50. 50, but he's. He's the goal line guy to me. I think he'll have that role.

[Jason Moore]

That's really interesting to hear. I'm curious to see what the preseason looks like with that. Yeah, well, it's very possible. I mean, Ellington isn't special around the goal line. I mean.

[Mike Wright]

Well, you're talking about a guy who both have excellent pass catching ability, but one guy is much larger than the other guy. He can also catch. So why would you not go with him?

[Jason Moore]

It's funny, my guy comes from the same roster and it's Larry Fitzgerald.

[Mike Wright]

Oh.

[Jason Moore]

And it's because he's going in the ninth Round.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And there is a lot of, I think outside of Arizona perspective on Fitzgerald that last year was just a career arc downward. But they don't recognize how bad the quarterback situation was in Arizona and how good Fitzgerald was with his targets.

[Mike Wright]

With Carson Palmer.

[Jason Moore]

With Carson Palmer and just his targets in general, he's still one of the most efficient wide receivers in football. He's catches almost anything thrown his direction as long as it's within a radius that isn't like a fourth string quarterback can, can put it in. The Cardinals were 11 and 5 last year with basically no running game and no quarterback play. So I'm excited about Fitz and the ability to bounce back as a possession. Very Andre Johnson, like yeah, he's very similar.

[Mike Wright]

Where Andre Johnson was aging but still got a lot of targets last year he didn't produce as much. But I, I completely agree with you that people are overlooking Larry Fitzgerald.

[Jason Moore]

I just can't believe he's that far down. I remember the days when he was that early first second round pick.

[Mike Wright]

And that's the thing. I think people are. Have got burned on the early pick. We're not saying he's going to be an elite wide receiver one, but people are, they just got.

[Jason Moore]

That's super hard to do to draft. To draft the guy a second year after he's burned you with an early pick.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly. So that's. He keeps going further down.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Devonte Adams being drafted ahead of him.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

That's crazy.

[Jason Moore]

Wow. Yeah. That tells you how far he has fallen. If you want to get a hold of the show, you can do so on Twitter @ the FF Ballers. You can follow Mike @FFHitman and follow Jason @JasonAsonFFL. And if you want to follow me, you can do so at Andy Holloway. We've got a YouTube channel. Make sure you check it out. Subscribe to the show. We not only put these shows live on YouTube, live is the wrong word. We put them up after we record them. We put them up after we record them. And then we also do a number of questions, listener questions. We answer those in kind of short form. We grab a question or two. We answer them real quick on YouTube so you can get some perspective for your fantasy season. If you have a question of your own that you want to submit for us to answer on the show, you can go to the site thefantasyfootballers.com click the submit a question button in the upper right hand corner. It is easy as peasy peasy.

[Andy Holloway]

Easy as peasy. Very nice. Well done. Mike, thank you.

[Jason Moore]

So let's go ahead and read a review.

[Andy Holloway]

Review. Asaurus Rex. This one comes in from Yakkal 79. There's a pirate Yackal. He or she says. This podcast is hosted by three guys that form a menage. A monster of a team. Oh. Quality fan. Quality fantasy analysis mixed with witty banter that leaves me feverishly waiting for more. I'm a longtime listener of other fantasy podcasts, but truly the mediocrity that exists in other pods is put to shame by the excellent sound quality and great advice. This podcast has quickly become my favorite, and I am proud to be a member of the Foot Clan.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Welcome aboard.

[Andy Holloway]

Hashtag even Saturday shows rock. Hashtag texting aloud just to pay attention. I think that's when I was texting on the show. And you got decapitated.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. One quick point. We use that French phrase a lot. I think we're actually switching out the wrong word because wouldn't trois be the. Isn't that three?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Look, we don't. We don't speak that language. Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Hey. Hey. Bonjour. I'm.

[Jason Moore]

We have got a good show. We don't have a lot of news and notes to talk about today, so we're gonna get right into it. The main event. Let's do it.

[Andy Holloway]

The fantasy footballers mock draf.

[Jason Moore]

You seemed like you didn't want to move on.

[Mike Wright]

I wanted. Oh, no, no. I want to demock draft. I wanted to do my soapbox earlier today.

[Jason Moore]

What is that about?

[Mike Wright]

Go to at the league fxx and let them know that we want to see the fantasy footballers on the final season of the league during the final season of the show. Great show. Hilarious. I love it personally, and it would be just a personal highlight of my life if we could get us on the show in some fashion. And this is the last chance. So Foot Clan, I'm rallying.

[Jason Moore]

At a minimum, your sausage dip should end up on the show.

[Mike Wright]

The sausage dip. Just a snippet of the man bun.

[Jason Moore]

Lay it on the counter.

[Mike Wright]

My back. Your back? Well, just. It doesn't matter.

[Jason Moore]

You just want a cameo distant on the show.

[Mike Wright]

I could be an extra just walking by and I would be very happy.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we're getting into the draft now. We are using fantasydraftwizard.com to run through a live mock draft. It's what we've done with both of our earlier mock drafts as well. It is great because we can choose a number of different ways and lists that we can go up against. So today, to summarize for you. We are in a 10 team league. We are drafting from the 10th spot and we're going up against the ESPN ADP which I think should be helpful for people. There are a lot of people that play in ESPN leagues and even if you don't, you're probably looking at some of those rankings to build your lists. And so we are going up against.

[Andy Holloway]

That standard or ppr.

[Jason Moore]

This is a standard league. All right. Okay. So we have kicked off the draft and first off the board is Eddie Lacy.

[Mike Wright]

Oh man, I was really hoping he would drop to 10.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so close. The first pick in the draft was Eddie Lacy followed by Adrian Peterson, Jamal Charles and Lev Bell. Marshawn Lynch. Arian Foster goes number six, which I like to see. I guess as someone who thinks he's the best back in football this year. Fantasy wise, I'm seeing him move up a little bit. One wide receiver off the board. Antonio Brown goes with the seventh pick and then DeMarco Murray and CJ Anderson. And here we are on the clock. 10th pick of the first round and we get back to back picks, gentlemen, because this is a snake draft.

[Andy Holloway]

I would have really liked C.J. anderson here. Let's take C.J. anderson.

[Jason Moore]

That's going to be difficult because he is off the board. And the running back we're staring down, the crop we're staring down is Matt Forte, LaShawn McCoy, Jeremy Hill, Justin for set. That is probably where the tier line for us drops. We also have all of the wide receivers on the board other than Antonio Brown. And so what is the thought process here? Because Rob Gronkowski is there as well. We got two picks, we only get two positions. Maybe we get one position but I assume we're taking a running back.

[Andy Holloway]

I think we have to take, we've got two picks here. I think we have to take a running back. If we don't take a running back at this spot being at the turn, you know the next guy we get going to get for our starting RB is going to be 29 or something like that, which he could be great. I like having him on my team. But you got to have one of those Shore guys and that, that short.

[Mike Wright]

Guy for me is Jeremy Hill. Especially standard. I think Hill is a near lock for double digit touchdowns this year.

[Andy Holloway]

Now let's talk about Forte real quick because I think on most people's board that would be the guy who's the clear winner here. Forte's still on the clock. He's, he goes higher for me. You know, I don't have a. I.

[Jason Moore]

Don'T have a problem with Forte here.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would, I would be willing to take Forte. I like other guys a little bit more than him here, but this is about where he should be going and the fact that it's a standard league. I think his big drop off in production is going to come in a PPR league with Tressman leaving. But all that said, I think for me, the guy that I would like here is actually LaShawn McCoy thinking a standard league. The volume is going to be there. It's going to be guaranteed. So I like Hill, but my vote would be for Lashawn McCoy.

[Jason Moore]

So, Andy, I'm going to have to go with McCoy. He's the pick here. I agree. I think, I think Forte and Hill, when you look at those two guys, it's like both of them have very high odds of being consistent. And the upside trend leans on the hillside and the downside trend leans on the Forte side. As far as McCoy goes, that's just. I mean, he's just going to be given the ball all year long. I do have concerns with McCoy. I think we all understand why. He had a very down year with a very decent offensive line and now he's going to a bad offensive line. But I think McCoy is the pick. And you on board, Mike?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, I figured. I figured that was the case. So LaShawn McCoy is off the board now. We're staring down the choice here. Do we go a second running back? Do we go Rob Gronkowski? This is a little bit later for Gronk. I think Gronk's ADP is around 7 or 8.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah. We're in 10 team though. So he.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

Him being available here is not extremely surprising.

[Jason Moore]

No. And then you've got the wide receiver crop, you've got Julio Jones, DEZ Bryant, demarius Thomas pick. There hasn't been Odell Beckham, Calvin Johnson. The only guy off the board is Antonio Brown.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's right, Antonio. Brownsville.

[Jason Moore]

It's hard for me to. If it's my choice here, I'm not going with the tight end.

[Mike Wright]

He's in. He's in consideration for me.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, so tell me kind of what you're thinking about, Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's definitely between the pick of the litter and wide receiver or Gronk. And I think here in a 10 team league. I kind of spoke about this last week. I don't like not getting a wide receiver here, but I also think in a 10 team where everybody has more elite Talent. Those guys that you do know for sure are a differentiator at the top, you know, matter the fact that this is a two running back, two wide receiver and flex league versus the three wide receiver league, which is really common, says to me that that's going to be the tiebreaker for me to go with Gronk. Gronk.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, that's pretty good logic there.

[Mike Wright]

I can get on board Gronk, because I would think about it right here and for the experiment of the live draft to see what our team ends.

[Jason Moore]

Up with, I would like to see what wide receivers roll back to us at the next pick as well as our RB2 situation. So let's go ahead and go with Rob Gronkowski. We on board with that?

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so first two off the board for our squad are Lashamacoy and Rob Gronkowski. We're seeing the second and third rounds take place right before our eyes here on fantasydraftwizard.com Matt Forte went right after Gronkowski and the first quarterback went off the board in the second round. The third pick, Aaron Rodgers, followed by Andrew Luck as the seventh pick of that round. We lost a bunch of those wide receivers. The rest of the second round was all wide receivers. So all of those names that we just talked about, Dez Odell, Beckham Jr. Calvin Johnson, Jordy Nelson, Julio Jones, AJ Green. In the third round, Jeremy Hill fell all the way to the second pick of the third round. We also saw some more wide receivers go off the board. Russell Wilson and Peyton Manning just went off the board before us with the ninth pick of the third round. So now we are sitting here at the end of the third, turn to the fourth. We got two picks on the board and our choices here at running back are Justin Forsette, we've got Frank Gore on the board, Melvin Gordon, Alfred Morris, Lamar Miller, Jonathan Stewart. At the wide receiver position we have Mike Evans, DeAndre Hopkins, Manuel Sanders, some other guys, Andre Johnson, Jordan Matthews, Keenan Allen, DeSean Jackson and so are there other positions in consideration for you guys or am I looking at the right two?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you're looking at the right two without a doubt.

[Andy Holloway]

There's no way we would take a quarterback here with Luck and Rogers gone. Those middle tier quarterbacks are a mistake to take and we've got the tight end locked down. So we just pick the best running back and wide receiver we can. We have no wide receivers, so we have to at least take one, maybe two, but they're still great.

[Jason Moore]

I'm wondering if we're going to end up much like our PPR mock draft. We're going to end up with DeAndre Hopkins in this draft because he's available again.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, I find I'm taking him in a lot of drafts. You know, there's those questions like do you take the same guy? He is one of the guys that have been on so many teams that I've been mock drafting or even doing in the MFL10s because I think I just like his value more than a lot of other people do.

[Jason Moore]

So talk to me about Evans and Hopkins.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

How is this going to standard? I have it a little bit different in standard. I actually have Evans slotted a couple points higher than Hopkins. The touchdowns where Hopkins is the deep threat guy on Houston and can certainly score a bunch of touchdowns. But to me that is Evans forte. He is a huge body. I think Vincent Jackson will siphon a couple more touchdowns, but I think overall the offense is going to be better this year with Jameis Winston. So to me, the picks right here are Mike Evans and I have Justin for set still as a top 10 back in standard. Even though his most of his value comes from ppr. He's going to pile up the catches, but the catches are just more opportunities to get yards. I mean, 10 yards in the air is the exact same as 10 on the ground.

[Jason Moore]

What about the goal line concerns though? Because that would be. I'd much rather have Frank Gore around the goal line in a standard league than I would Justin Forset.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's the question for me. I completely agree with you on Evans, I think in a standard league.

[Jason Moore]

So we want to take Evans. Do you want to lock that down?

[Andy Holloway]

Let's grab Evans.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so Mike Evans is on the roster. Let's figure out the second pick then.

[Andy Holloway]

The question of the second pick is certainly Justin Forsett or Frank Gore.

[Jason Moore]

Two guys that or Alfred Morris in a standard league. I mean, not squats, touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, not to me. I just have too many concerns.

[Mike Wright]

And the pick to me is Justin Forsett. The difference between Forsett and Frank Gore is not monumental enough for me to do to throw my Latavius Murray fits as you will.

[Jason Moore]

I know. I feel bad because, you know, last mock draft you were beaten up afterwards.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, I got up. I'm still standing. Yep, I'm still strong. So I would go with four set but it won't make me weep if.

[Jason Moore]

We get for perspective for our listeners, the ADP that we're drafting against has four set is the next guy on the board. So, so the predominant opinion would be for set here. For me, I'm going to go with Gore. That's my, that's my vote. So we'll leave the decision making up to Jason Moore in his golf shirt.

[Mike Wright]

I tell you what though, see that these, these two on ones are going.

[Andy Holloway]

To wear me down. I really do feel bad because I know my pick and I don't want to take my pick because of the.

[Jason Moore]

I wanted to take Jeremy Hill for him before too.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no. But take the guy that you want because this is what we're doing.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I got to do it. I do agree with the exact logic that the touchdowns are going to matter more in the standard league. And I think Frank Gore finds end zone a lot. Think about how much Ahmad Bradshaw found the end zone on those little dump offs near the goal line. They use their running back at the goal line all the time, not necessarily on the ground. But I expect Frank Gore to be up near double digit touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

I always say he should be in. To me, it's 12 to 15 total touchdowns on the year.

[Mike Wright]

That's a lot of touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I, there's just not somebody else I think that are going to put in the game around the goal line and he can catch the ball.

[Mike Wright]

So as I'll just point out.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

That four set had eight on the ground last year and now we're getting Tressman in. So he's going. I think eight is a floor for me on the ground.

[Jason Moore]

That's pretty impressive.

[Mike Wright]

And you're going to add a couple more in the air.

[Andy Holloway]

And keep in mind how Tressman has always used his guy. He used Forte and Forte wasn't a goal linebacker, but he made Forte a goal line back. He got, you know, Bush was out of there and they used him on the goal line. So it's too late.

[Jason Moore]

Mike, Mike talked to Pat Mayo a lot about Justin Forset.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

We are linked at the hip on, on four set.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And. And the problem with four set is there's a lot of perception issues. And I'm not going to be the first to tell you. I mean, they impact me too. He's older, he's been around the block, he's undersized.

[Mike Wright]

Are you talking about four set or Frank Gore?

[Jason Moore]

Well, okay. Yeah, that's, that's very fair. That's very fair. But I think, I think, I don't see Gore as being, you know, you have, you just said top 10. Okay. For four sets. So I think that's where my, my pause comes in. I just don't know. I just don't know about 4 set. I don't know what they're going to do there. But for now Our roster is LaShawn McCoy, Frank Gore, Mike Evans and Rob Gronkowski.

[Mike Wright]

At least I got Evans on the team.

[Jason Moore]

That's true. Good job. All right, so we. I gotta fly through the second or. I'm sorry, the fourth and fifth rounds for you. Do you guys see any highlights here? Four set ended up going three picks later after Alfred Morris, which I actually understand in a standard league myself. The rest of the round has to be a teardrop a little bit. Lamar Miller, Carlos Hyde Hopkins went at the end of the fourth round. You saw another quarterback in Brees go off the board.

[Mike Wright]

The interesting guys to me are Andre Ellington in the fifth of a standard and Julian Edelman in the fifth of a standard.

[Jason Moore]

As in too high for Edelman.

[Mike Wright]

Very way too high for me.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think it's not way too high. That's not too high for me.

[Mike Wright]

It's too high for. It is too high, but not way too high. I went to exaggeration on there.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I like if I had Edelman as my wide receiver two in a standard league, I'd be fine with it.

[Mike Wright]

Really? Even in the fifth? I know you picked him in an email the other day.

[Jason Moore]

I did, yeah. I just think volume and trust and.

[Mike Wright]

Even with Brady getting four, if it.

[Jason Moore]

Stays at four, yeah, I'm okay with it. I just don't see. There's just not enough. There's a mixed bag of talent around him. Even the fell. I mean, one year with Brady does not a consistent career make. I mean, Edelman has earned the trust of that offense. I just think the volume's there. And he does score. He does get into the end zone. He's not very much. He's not made to score like Evans, but he gets in the end zone. I just would be happy in the back half of the fifth round with. With Edelman. Another point worth mentioning is Todd Gurley goes in the fifth round in this draft. Joy Bell and Latavius Murray went right ahead of him. I should also say Drew Brees went with the last pick of the fourth round. Too high or too low?

[Andy Holloway]

Way too high. It's a disgusting pick. I'm happy it was.

[Jason Moore]

How about Jordan Matthews going with the ninth pick of the fifth round?

[Andy Holloway]

Kind of sad because I know the Hitman and myself are super high, staring him down.

[Jason Moore]

So now we're kind of in a pickle here. We are the Last pick of the fifth round. Turning into the sixth round, we got two picks to choose from. Wide receiver still on the board, Frank Gore's teammate, Andre Johnson. We've got Keenan Allen, desean Jackson, Brandon Marshall, Amari Cooper, Vincent Jackson, Martavis Bryant, Jeremy Macklin. In terms of running back still on the board, C.J. spiller probably is at the top of that list, along with Leger Blunt, Joseph Randle. So we're sitting here into the sixth round. Joseph Randall, still available, Gio Bernard, Rashad Jennings, Tevin Coleman. And then you get into some of the rookies, Chris Ivory, one of the.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you say LeGarrett blunt?

[Mike Wright]

That's exactly where I was going with the one guy who I'm taking for sure on these swing picks, if it's me in control, is LeGarrett blunt in standard.

[Andy Holloway]

I love LeGarrett blunt in standard. I think he's going to eat up touchdowns this year. I would pick him in a heartbeat.

[Jason Moore]

So to give you some perspective, his ADP right now is 74. And so if we took him here, we would be taking him about around early with Standard adp, which I don't mind just pointing it out with how you wait. Right.

[Andy Holloway]

One of the strategies people need to realize is that when you're on a turn, you need to be willing to reach. You need to find the guys you want. And if you are at, you know, if you're drafting at 1 or 2 or 9 or 10 in a 10 team, or 11 and 12 in a 12 team, you have to realize that's 20 players that are going to go or 24, you know, 23 players are going to go before your next pick. Take the guys you like. Because normally I look at guys and I watch that ADP and I go, this guy can make it back to me. But I never assume they're going to make it back to me on this. That's a. That's a lesson learned because I have done that a lot at the turn and said, I think this guy can make it back. And they never make it back.

[Jason Moore]

So it's a really good point. And Blunt is a perfect example here because his ADP 74. We're picking at 60, 61, and we won't pick again until 80, 81.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

And so he's right in the middle of that. So we have to. Either you either do two things, right? You take him early or you take a chance and maybe he drops around.

[Mike Wright]

Big chance.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I actually think he'd come back around.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, we can.

[Jason Moore]

No, that's Probably. That's probably not. That's probably not going to happen. No, that's probably not going to happen. So you guys want LeGarrett blunt. We're going to draft LeGarrett blunt then. So he is on our roster.

[Andy Holloway]

Beautiful.

[Jason Moore]

He joins LaShawn McCoy and Frank Gore. And so LeGuerre Blunt fills up that RB3.

[Mike Wright]

I feel like that's perfectly fine. He's suspended for one game, but as our third running back, we can completely absorb that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

But now we need a wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

There are two. There's a lot of good options, but let's talk a little great options here.

[Mike Wright]

Let's talk.

[Jason Moore]

Is Andre Johnson one of them?

[Andy Holloway]

Andre Johnson is absolutely one of them.

[Jason Moore]

Any concerns with him and Gore on the same route?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm glad you asked the question because I feel like users ask that question.

[Jason Moore]

I do. I get that question a ton.

[Andy Holloway]

And no concern, zero concern on that. There are definite concerns to having the players on the same team, especially in both the run game and the pass game. I don't enjoy that as much as, you know, sticking with the passing game, like quarterback, wide receiver. However, when you are on one of the elite offenses, which nobody can say anything other than that about the Colts, you don't worry about it. You can draft them on the packers, you can draft them on the Colts, you can draft them on the Broncos, and you're going to be fine. However, there's also Marty McBride. Martavis.

[Mike Wright]

That's my guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Both of these guys I love. And this is the quintessential question of would Martavis Bryant make it back to us?

[Jason Moore]

You know, I think he will. And I think he is not the wide receiver too. We would draft here. I would much rather have. Well, maybe he is.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe he is the wide receiver too, that I would draft.

[Jason Moore]

Here I have him and Andre Johnson back to back. In a standard league and in a.

[Andy Holloway]

Standard league, standard favors Bryant over Johnson. But I like Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

Really?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The consistency of Johnson and there's a.

[Jason Moore]

Chance Johnson won't come back around. Bryant will come back around.

[Andy Holloway]

I will say this. If one player could possibly come back, it would definitely be Martavis Bryant.

[Jason Moore]

Do I want to take a chance?

[Andy Holloway]

We can see and test that theory.

[Jason Moore]

And do you like Andre Johnson more than Brandon Marshall? Because he's the other name that jumps out to me.

[Mike Wright]

This is what I feel like. I feel like you guys are putting me on the hoverboard over the water right now for Marty.

[Jason Moore]

Marty, I have.

[Mike Wright]

I have no power. I am.

[Jason Moore]

I am isolated in the Lake pointing at you. Yeah, I'm saying, do you want it? His ADP is pretend that you can.

[Andy Holloway]

Paddle on that water. Give us.

[Mike Wright]

I've seen what you want to give Marty McGuin.

[Jason Moore]

Let's give him this pick.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Mike's got the pick.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, is it.

[Jason Moore]

Is it Andre Johnson? Is it Brandon Marshall? Is it Martavis Bryant?

[Andy Holloway]

You like Bryant better. You think he'll make it back?

[Mike Wright]

I do. But here they are very close in my rankings. Very close. Andre Johnson and Marty McBride. So I will. I will gamble this.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. This time to see what happens.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, this is a mock draft.

[Jason Moore]

Is this Andre?

[Mike Wright]

So we'll go with Andre Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

One real quick thing. A guy that I really like who reminds me of Andre Johnson, who could also come back around would be Vincent. So if you go Martavis Bryant, then you can give Vince.

[Jason Moore]

Now why aren't you guys drafting Jeremy Macklin here?

[Mike Wright]

Is that because Jeremy.

[Jason Moore]

Not a joke.

[Mike Wright]

Jeremy Macklin will not be on any of my teams.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's why I know that's true. All right, Andre Johnson off the board. Let's hold our breath because we are walking through the sixth round and the seventh round and Martavis Bryant is. Is he gone?

[Andy Holloway]

Let's see.

[Jason Moore]

He is still on the board.

[Mike Wright]

So he who dares wins, my friends.

[Jason Moore]

But so is Brandon Marshall.

[Mike Wright]

It doesn't matter.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's not so.

[Jason Moore]

Martavius Bryant. We're locking him down.

[Andy Holloway]

Very nice.

[Jason Moore]

All right, before I make that pick, let me tell the listeners a little bit about the sixth and seventh round. We also saw Big Ben went off the board in the sixth round, as did Cam Newton and Matt Ryan and Tony Romo went in the seventh, which is just a surprising inverse of all of our rankings here. We all would have taken Matt Ryan over Big Ben without a question. You after our pick with of Andre Johnson. Any other ones stand out? Travis Kelsey ends up going in the sixth round. Does that give you any second guessing of our Gronkowski pick?

[Mike Wright]

Very much.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah, me too. Yeah, me too. Because I think I'd much rather end up with.

[Mike Wright]

But we took Gronk to see what would happen.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

That being said, this is six round in a 10 team so it's, you know, I mean that's still good value and it's. And it's better than necessary Gronk. But I would. I actually like given the wide receivers that just got fallen to us. Martavis Bryant as our third. I actually would prefer a Gronk.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Tevin Coleman. Tevin Coleman went off the board. Before Travis Kelsey. Greg Olson went off the board before Travis Kelsey.

[Mike Wright]

I have a scenario.

[Jason Moore]

Check and see scenario.

[Mike Wright]

I want you guys to play out because we haven't really talked trade bait very much. I was talking with a Foot Clan member and wanting me to look at the. The draft and this was a real draft. They got Gronk in the second, so not a bad value on Gronk and I believe it was a 12 team, might be 10.

[Jason Moore]

He had his actual draft.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, actual draft already happened all the way to the eighth round. Kelsey was available so he drafted him.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

If Kelsey. If you have Gronk on your team in the second and Kelsey's available in the eighth round, I take Kelsey. Would you take him?

[Andy Holloway]

I would do.

[Jason Moore]

I would much rather do. I saw that here and I was like, ah.

[Andy Holloway]

And I think it makes a difference to me whether or not you can actually play him. If your flex allows for running back, wide receiver, tight end. Oh, yeah. Because he's going to put up better points than a lot of wide receivers or running backs. You could play in that flex and then you're able to utilize.

[Jason Moore]

That's crazy value. Eighth round in a 12 team.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I said when my first comment was, wow, you drafted both of those guys. I hope you didn't overpay. And then it was, oh, yeah, everyone kept balking on him and went to the eighth round. I would have done it too.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's interesting too because Kelsey goes off the board here in the middle of the sixth. Zach Ertz goes in the middle of the seventh. We roll back around to our pick. Martavius Bryant's on the board. I've already clicked the draft button on fantasydraftwizard.com and he is on our roster. To give you an idea of who we have right now, we have LaShawn McCoy, Frank Gore and LeGarrett blunt at the running backs, Mike Evans, Andre Johnson and Martavis Bryant at the wide receiver position. And Rob Gronkowski. I feel really good about this team. Yeah, I'm staring it down going, it's.

[Andy Holloway]

Really hard to feel bad about your team on 10 team leagues though.

[Jason Moore]

It does, it does. It changes you. But a lot of people playing them. That's why we wanted to roll out a 10 team mock today because not everybody's rolling a 12 team.

[Mike Wright]

Who are the best available running backs right now?

[Jason Moore]

The best available. CJ Spiller is still on the board.

[Andy Holloway]

Standardly.

[Mike Wright]

That's interesting.

[Jason Moore]

In a standard league, he is still on the board. Joseph Randall still on the board. Which Just seems also unbeatable.

[Andy Holloway]

And Isaiah Crowell and a standard who is.

[Mike Wright]

I would wait on Crowell, but I agree.

[Jason Moore]

So if you wanted to draft a quarterback, which we don't, the best available is Ryan Tannehill, Eli Manning, Matt Stafford. Is there any thought to grabbing Tannehill here in the end of the seventh though? Not a 10 team league.

[Mike Wright]

Not a 10 team league. We have a five bench. We're five deep on the bench. So I, like I said in 12, I feel very confident streaming 10 even more.

[Jason Moore]

So my vote is Joseph Randall all the way to the bank.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

We are in the perfect position with these guys to I think take, Take Randall and see what happens.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah, if you want to compare C.J. spiller to Joseph Randall, C.J.

[Jason Moore]

Spiller, you know, it's a. Yeah, the standard league.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. In a standard league you would go, okay, what do I need now on my team now that I've locked in my positions and we've got three running backs who are all solid but not necessarily, you know, going to have any chance of finishing the league number one. I mean, you got Lashawn McCoy, Frank Gore and LeGarrett Blunt. I like all three of those guys as solid producers. Joseph Randle is a real boom potential guy if he ends up getting the workload. So I like going with that over someone like a C.J. spiller. I have no problem with that pick.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, to me it's the best available argument right here. But I'm curious what your thought is, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

I would lean Joseph Randall because I think he of anybody in Dallas will be the goal line guy. But it does and my rankings show that greatly.

[Jason Moore]

One more name I want to point out is Brandon Marshall is still on the board. Okay, I'll get it.

[Mike Wright]

I'll get to Brandon Marshall. But so Joseph Randall, I think he'd be the goal line guy where I'm really liking Dunbar more as the passing guy. CJ Spiller is interesting because we talk about his PPR skills, but you're remember that team with Darren Sprols? We remember Darren Sprouls. Oh, he was great in ppr. He was. But he was still great in Standard because that guy was scoring touchdowns by the boatload.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So I, we're talking about.

[Jason Moore]

I am really okay with either pick. I'm okay with Spiller or Randle because they both represent upside to me.

[Mike Wright]

And I will take the risk on Randall right here of maybe he becomes a three down guy.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Randall is off the board to us. So we have a lot of Depth at the running back position. McCoy, Gore, Blunt and Randall. And we're rolling back through the eighth and ninth round. Crowell does go off the board. Macklin finally leaves in the end of the eighth round. Vincent Jackson, a steal, in my opinion. Yeah. That is six picks. I would have mentioned him earlier. I didn't know if we wanted to pair him with Evans.

[Mike Wright]

We had talked a little bit about Jackson, but I agree. I don't know if I want. I wouldn't be that. At that value, that's perfect.

[Jason Moore]

Tough. If it's sitting here and we could draft him again, I'd be fine with it. But this is that same thing we're talking about. You just mentioned Gore and Andre Johnson. They're on a prolific offense. Right. Give me Lacey and Cobb. Give me Cobb and Nelson.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

But don't give me necessarily two guys that depend upon a rookie. A Wookie.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, a wookie.

[Jason Moore]

If you're depending on a wookie or a rookie, you're in trouble.

[Andy Holloway]

You're in big trouble. Wookies are known for their bad accuracy. Volatile, and they're terrible.

[Mike Wright]

You give me a wookie as a linebacker, though.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yep. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Talk about fumbles.

[Andy Holloway]

I've taken a couple Wookies in idp.

[Jason Moore]

Hashtag Wookie of the Year.

[Andy Holloway]

Wookiee of the year. Very nice.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, we're sitting here in the.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, something to bring up.

[Jason Moore]

Doug Martin's gone.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no.

[Jason Moore]

He was drafted by an owner. Doug M. Doug M. Doug took himself.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, that makes sense. All right.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just kidding.

[Mike Wright]

We.

[Andy Holloway]

So we've had many rounds of bypassing quarterbacks, and we, you know, we're looking here. We've got so much depth at running back and wide receiver, and a lot of times people will go, why would you take another running back or another wide receiver at this position? You've got them on lockdown.

[Jason Moore]

Nope.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. No is the answer. We don't have them. Unlock that.

[Mike Wright]

I was hoping you were going to.

[Jason Moore]

Say that's what everybody thinks every draft, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I'm loaded at running back. I've got four.

[Jason Moore]

It's a great point. And I was going to say I'm not taking a quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

And let me tell you why. I'm going to give you some names of why. Ryan Tannehill, Eli Manning, Matthew Stafford, Tom Brady, Phillip Rivers, Colin Kaepernick, Sam Bradford.

[Andy Holloway]

What's the difference between Carson Palmer, almost.

[Jason Moore]

Any of those, Teddy Bridgewater.

[Andy Holloway]

The difference between some of those guys is. Is. Is a point a game. And you don't know which one it is. That's going to be the better point.

[Mike Wright]

You want the better matchup?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So just take him at the end.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Take laugh your way to the bank in your 10 team draft because if.

[Mike Wright]

People don't buy into the streaming philosophy in your league, people will start mocking you. It's going to happen.

[Jason Moore]

Just have some nice quarterback chew on your Oreos and just ignore.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Don't forget those Oreos.

[Jason Moore]

Chomp on the Oreos.

[Andy Holloway]

I want pictures of drafts with Oreos there.

[Jason Moore]

You want them? Mike's. Our next picks. Already done.

[Andy Holloway]

Our next. Oh. Oh, no. We've.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, clearly we're sitting at the 10th round. Well, the last pick of the ninth.

[Andy Holloway]

The nine, 10 turns.

[Jason Moore]

Can you hear that?

[Andy Holloway]

What is that?

[Mike Wright]

Can we finally get him on a team?

[Jason Moore]

I think we can.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Devonte Freeman is. I'm just kidding. Amir Abdullah is sitting on the board with massive upside. I'm going to click the draft button before Mike reaches over and steals it from me. I've. I've got no problem with Amir Abdullah at that value. That's great. And let's stockpile some talent and guys that can break out. So at the wide receiver position, I see Larry Fitzgerald sitting there in the 10th round. I see Roddy White. Allen Robinson is there in the 10th round. I don't like Robinson in a standard.

[Mike Wright]

I don't like him as much. But I, I really think Alan Robinson breaks out this year.

[Jason Moore]

He breaks out and he scores four touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's look at the. Let's look at the makeup of our team.

[Jason Moore]

I love it.

[Andy Holloway]

That's true.

[Jason Moore]

And you're probably right.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so let's, let's take a look at the makeup of our team and see do we have boom guys or solid guys and see whether or not what we're in need of is a guy that is, you know, a starter that we absolutely need, you know, reliability from or whether it's like we've got the reliability down. Who's the highest potential? Because that's kind of when I get later in the draft, that's what I look in and I. Because those are the tiebreakers for me when I'm looking at a bunch of guys, I like Fitzgerald versus a high ceiling guy. Not that he's not.

[Jason Moore]

So you want me to go through the roster is what you're saying?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So we're starting McCoy and Gore. We have LeGarrett, Blunt and Joseph Randall on the squad as well as Amir.

[Andy Holloway]

Abdullah, Gore, Blunt and Randall and Abdullah.

[Jason Moore]

And then we've got Evans, Andre Johnson, Rob Gronkowski. You know you're given the high five that Everybody in a 10 team league gives high fives.

[Mike Wright]

Well, when you draft your running back two in the 10th round.

[Jason Moore]

What did you say last episode? I better not be wrong. You better not suck.

[Mike Wright]

Which he won't.

[Jason Moore]

Oh my goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

Foot clan. Just know everybody.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know what I want to happen. I don't know if I wanted to be great. Because you've given so many, so many people in our audience advice to draft him and then we're right or I want you to be wrong so I can just mercilessly.

[Mike Wright]

I go down in salt flames.

[Jason Moore]

Oh yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean for the point that out for you. I really hope he's good because I think that there are a lot of listeners who are drafting Amir Abdullah. So I hope that.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Andy Holloway]

Right for that.

[Jason Moore]

There you go. So what's the pick here? We got to move. We got to move on in this draft. We got to take another guy here and that's our roster. Gronkowski has locked down the tight end position. I like that. I'm not thinking about tight end right now. I'll be honest with you.

[Mike Wright]

So we don't need another tight end.

[Jason Moore]

Right. So to me, when I look at our wide receivers, so let's talk about that. Like, like Jason just brought up Mike Evans, Andre Johnson, Martavis Bryant. We are short on wide receiver and we are short on consistency. To me.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Because we don't. Let me give you some perspective here. Mike Evans, rookie quarterback, Andre Johnson, changing teams. Martavis Bryant, second year guy. That tells me we need to put somebody on the squad that we can roll out in case one of these guys falls through.

[Andy Holloway]

Your guy.

[Mike Wright]

Someone with really, really sure hands.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean just performed hall of fame level.

[Andy Holloway]

Someone that if we could turn the YouTube camera around would be a giant fat head on the wall.

[Jason Moore]

Stuck on the wall.

[Mike Wright]

Nice hands, Larry.

[Jason Moore]

So is it Larry Fitzgerald?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. That's the perfect compliment to this team.

[Jason Moore]

And Larry and Andre can live out their glory days together on our roster.

[Mike Wright]

We're the geriatrics.

[Jason Moore]

Well, not quite, but close all the.

[Mike Wright]

Way to the champions.

[Jason Moore]

We've got one bench. Yeah. Right now we only have one. One bench spot left. Our quarterback spot is left and then the defense and kicker. So I am okay rolling out that quarterback spot right now. Especially with a guy like Eli Manning on the board. He's still on the board at the the end of the 11th round. I'd rather roll him out. Kaepernick. I Have higher than him. I don't know if I could talk you guys into him, though.

[Andy Holloway]

You could absolutely talk me into Kaepernick. I have. Oh, no way.

[Jason Moore]

All right. For Mike's sake.

[Andy Holloway]

I have Kaepernick higher than Manning. I would rather have over Manning. I would rather still take a position here and get.

[Jason Moore]

I've been getting so much grief for weeks about my Kaepernick love.

[Mike Wright]

And it's. It is fine. I understand it, but it. It's. You're. You're projecting, which. That's what we do. We have to do. We have to project and we have to pick guys who are going to break out. But I like Eli Manning's. He's showing that he can do it. He's going to improve in that system.

[Andy Holloway]

And I'm fine taking Manning. We can.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we'll go with Manning. We'll let Mike walk away from this draft with his head held.

[Mike Wright]

I got two guys.

[Jason Moore]

You got two guys you like. All right, last bench spot. I'm going to toss this one over to you, Jason, give you some names. We've got Charles Johnson, Roddy White, Michael Floyd, Steve Smith. Senor, senor, senor, senor, think. Courtesy of Mr. Pat Mayo at the PME. Charles Johnson, Anquan Bolden, Marcus Coulson, Rashad Perryman, Pierre Garcon, Josh, John Brown. You're getting an idea of why in a 10 team league there is wide receiver depth throughout the entire draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. All right, I got mine.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to take Prashad Perriman because.

[Mike Wright]

Two combs there are so Reggie Bush.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, no.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I thought you frozen David Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

David Johnson is a consideration.

[Jason Moore]

I think Perryman's a good pick here with our. We have a lot of depth at wide receiver already.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. And the reason.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I'm sorry. At running back.

[Mike Wright]

And then we'll just blow our fab on David Johnson when he.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

All right. So that. That wraps up this draft. Everything going now is kickers in defenses.

[Andy Holloway]

Try to grab the jets defense. That would be my only.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you've been talking the jets defense up. Why don't you tell people why you like them in 30 seconds.

[Andy Holloway]

In 30 seconds they got Reavis Island. Then they got Antonio Cromartie. So their. Their secondary is awesome. Their line was already one of the best on defense that there was, and then they drafted a guy that they don't need who was the best D lineman in the draft. And then they got Todd Bowles as a defense as the Head coach who is a defensive coordinating guru. And they've got a good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Leonard Williams at number six this year. Defensive tackle.

[Andy Holloway]

That's just. To me. I love. I love the jets, but I will probably stream no matter what. So whoever I draft, I'm probably going to drop at some point. I'm not going to play the jets when they go up against, you know, the Packers.

[Jason Moore]

It's good to have kind of an idea, though, of some. Some teams that are improving. Todd Bowles from Arizona, we loved him out here. I think he can. He can change that defense. And Terrell Rivas certainly helps. So that is it for our third mock mock draft of the offseason.

[Andy Holloway]

Macaroni.

[Jason Moore]

This is by far the. The favorite team that we've ended up with. We will post.

[Mike Wright]

That should have been the drop man. Yeah, like macaroni and cheese.

[Jason Moore]

That's not bad either.

[Andy Holloway]

Like it?

[Jason Moore]

That's pretty good. But I'm soundless. I don't want to get hungry every episode while we talk about food. I. Sorry. I don't want to get hungrier. Hungrier. By far. My favorite team. We will post. People have asked us before. We'll post this team. We'll actually post the full draft results.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

On the episode page on the website. Okay. So I'll make sure I post that on there when we post. When this episode is live, which you can go to the website right now, the Fantasy footballers dot com. Click on that. See the full mock draft results in case you want to see some of the guys that went in between our picks that we didn't have time to mention. And if. Yeah, I'm pretty happy, guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And if you listen to this and you see the value in mock drafting, which I hope you do, because it is very important. You want to do that. We are using fantasydraftwizard.com we've got a link on our website, thefantasyfootballers.com it's free to do and they've got a bunch of tools you can actually, if you're in a keeper league or whatever, you can. You can pour in the guys that are kept. There's all sorts of things you can do to make it awesome and use the tool. Because our focus here at the Fantasy Footballers is getting the Foot Clan to win championships. And I know that, that the more people that listen to this show that do mock drafts, that's going to be the best way to set you up for success.

[Jason Moore]

I agree. I agree. So let's go ahead and take a few minutes here we got a few minutes left on the show. Let's answer some questions from the listeners.

[Andy Holloway]

Mailbag. Mail back.

[Jason Moore]

You hijacked that.

[Andy Holloway]

No. That was wonderful. That was like Austin. Keep it weird.

[Jason Moore]

Success.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

If you have a question for the show, you can go to the website the fantasy footballers. Click on the submit a question button. You can also call us, leave us a message on our voicemail box 302464, TFFB and we will listen and we'll play some of those on the show. I will stress, please keep your voicemail messages to really under about 45 seconds.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we've had some good ones.

[Jason Moore]

We've had good ones that are like two minutes long. I just can't. I can't play those. I'm sorry.

[Andy Holloway]

But we enjoy them. Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

Including a slow clap on our Travis Kelsey defense that I'll give a shout out to even though I can't play it on the show. But he was very happy with us coming to the defense of Mr. Travis Kelsey when we got caught out on him.

[Mike Wright]

Zeus doesn't need defending.

[Jason Moore]

It's true. But we did anyway. Adam from Michigan wants to know. He says he loves the show. He has a Jeremy Hill back tattoo. Joel, man, I want to see the picture.

[Mike Wright]

We got to go back to front.

[Jason Moore]

If it's a back tattoo and it has the hashtag double stuff on it, you are in the league keeper question. You can keep two of the following. Brandon Cooks in the seventh, Kelvin Benjamin in the eighth, Latavius Murray in the 16th, and he's already keeping Jeremy Hill and Jordy, so. No, just two of those three. Brandon Cooks in the seventh, Kelvin Benjamin in the eighth, and Latavius Murray in the sixth. That's easy.

[Mike Wright]

Cooks. Murray.

[Jason Moore]

Cook's Murray. Now you hit it before I even. Yeah, agreed with you.

[Andy Holloway]

It was easy.

[Jason Moore]

All right, this one comes in from El Capitan from Hawaii.

[Mike Wright]

Bonjour.

[Andy Holloway]

They do speak French.

[Jason Moore]

That is the second language.

[Mike Wright]

The question is, when will that joke ever not be funny?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I agree. Welcome to today's edition of the rapid fire round. Please select the following player you believe is best. Okay, Ready? Anquan Bolden versus Marcus Colston.

[Mike Wright]

Bolden.

[Andy Holloway]

Bolden.

[Jason Moore]

Frank Gore versus Mark Ingram.

[Mike Wright]

Gore.

[Jason Moore]

Ben Roethlisberger versus Matt Ryan versus Tony Romo.

[Andy Holloway]

Matt Ryan.

[Jason Moore]

Whoo. Was that the same name?

[Andy Holloway]

No, we both said.

[Mike Wright]

I said Ryan. He said Matt Ryan.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, all right. Well, there's your answers. Oh, I like that. Was the rapid fire round. No, I did, too.

[Andy Holloway]

Did we get three for this? Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. I guess we Do.

[Mike Wright]

Dude, that. That's a new. We got it. That's a segment that we got to work out.

[Jason Moore]

You answered them quick.

[Andy Holloway]

You weren't like El Capitans.

[Jason Moore]

Here's a great one. David from Utah, North Utah. Don't be talking about south Utah.

[Mike Wright]

I've heard some things about south Utah.

[Jason Moore]

Something they have bad, bad, bad cable service.

[Mike Wright]

The skiing in south Utah is just.

[Jason Moore]

Well, let me get to the real crux of this one. He says, I like Andy love Arian Foster. Where I am drafting. I draft Foster first and DeAndre Hopkins is always his top wide receiver on the board when he gets to his second pick. He also loves Hopkins. Is it a hindrance to have both of those on your team?

[Andy Holloway]

Perfect question for today. And I've been thinking more and more about this exact matchup because I have those two on my teams and I don't love it. I think that that would be a tiebreaker for me in a lot of situations where Hopkins is on the board. There are other guys like that I that I like almost as much that are right there.

[Jason Moore]

What is this? Is this hashtag subtraction by addition? Is that the roster we're talking about right here?

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So is that why you don't like it? Quarterback. Quarterback play.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, quarterback play. I just don't think the office is going to support it and I would rather spread my my love around there.

[Mike Wright]

I hate to do not hate but another pat Mayo drop Chef Hoyardi.

[Jason Moore]

That's not bad is what he calls that. It's tough to nickname guys that'll soon be out of the league though. Seth from Orlando, Florida. Well, did we answer the question? We just said we don't like it. Really?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we don't like it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I know.

[Andy Holloway]

Both good, but they're both going to.

[Jason Moore]

Be good at the end of the year on the stat sheet. I just don't I. When they stink.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, the problem is I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

I'm okay with it. I'm gonna say I'm okay with it with those. I have them in the playoffs. So what am I gonna do?

[Mike Wright]

I don't like it.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Seth from Florida, he runs a two quarterback league where all TDs are seven points. In past years, some owners will draft back to back quarterbacks with the first two picks. Makes sense since they accumulate so many points in the league. What are your thoughts on going with either two stud running backs or one stud running back and one stud right receiver with the first two picks? Don't do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would. I would agree with you. I would say don't do it. All of a sudden the quarterback position becomes very similar to the running back position.

[Jason Moore]

Except for they score more.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. Except for. Now they score more in your crazy league, which I hope you love. Yeah, don't do it. You need. You need a quarterback there. I would not tell someone to bypass the running back position. You can't do a zero QB theory type of thing where you're going to draft five QBs at the end.

[Mike Wright]

How many? How many teams?

[Jason Moore]

I already moved on from that email, so I don't have the.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's assume 12.

[Mike Wright]

If it was 10, then maybe, maybe. I think I could get away with it at 12. I'm still going to try and get a high volume touchdown guy in the first.

[Jason Moore]

All right, a reminder to everybody, if you're getting ready for the NFL season, you're getting ready for your daily fantasy sports season, which you should be. Make sure you hop on to FanDuel.com, put in the promo code ballers. You get a match up to $200 on your initial deposit. You'll be all ready to go for the football season and you'll be helping the show out. So go to fanduel.com put in the promo code ballers.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm fine.

[Jason Moore]

Are you okay? I'm looking at Jason and he looked like.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm good.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

I had some eye problem there.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you did. Anything else going on before we. We got a good show for you Thursday. Got an interview with number fires Joe Wan coming up. We're going to talk some Marion Foster. Dig into the numbers. Okay. The fantasy football scientist will be here talking to us about some of the. The metrics that tell me Arian Foster is looking really good. And so we'll talk about that. We'll go through some news and notes and go to heleaguefxx and say we.

[Mike Wright]

Want the footballers on the league.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm really trying to make it done. Let's get it done. All right, thanks, everybody.

[Mike Wright]

You cut that off way too soon.

[Jason Moore]

I was letting you go.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, goodbye. Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantas footballers podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.thefantasyfootballers.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers.