Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Sits of the Week, Stat Quiz, Week 13 Mailbag

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast - Episode: "Sits of the Week, Stat Quiz, Week 13 Mailbag" (Released December 2, 2015)

In this engaging episode of The Fantasy Footballers, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright delve deep into the strategies and decisions crucial for Week 13 of the 2015 NFL season. The trio combines expert analysis with entertaining banter to provide listeners with invaluable insights aimed at optimizing their fantasy football lineups as they approach the playoffs.

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Sits of the Week

One of the episode's primary focuses is identifying the "Sits of the Week," where the hosts advise listeners on which players to bench based on their upcoming matchups and recent performances.

• Quarterbacks to Sit:

  • Russell Wilson (Seattle Seahawks vs. Minnesota Vikings)

    Mike Wright emphasizes caution with Wilson facing a top-tier defense:

    “Russell Wilson’s matchup against Minnesota is perilous. They've only allowed two passing touchdowns this year.”
    (16:38)

  • Philip Rivers (San Diego Chargers vs. Denver Broncos)

    Jason Moore advises benching Rivers due to Denver's stout pass defense:

    “Philip Rivers... Denver's D against the passing game is shutting everybody down. Rivers has been underwhelming lately.”
    (17:32)

  • Drew Brees (New Orleans Saints vs. Carolina Panthers)

    Andy Holloway recommends sitting Brees despite his home advantage:

    “Carolina has the best pass coverage defense in the NFL... I’d pass on Brees even though he’s at home.”
    (17:36)

• Running Backs to Sit:

  • Latavius Murray (Miami Dolphins vs. Kansas City Chiefs)

    Mike Wright points out Murray’s recent decline and tough matchup:

    “Kansas City has only given up one touchdown to running backs over the last seven weeks. Murray's performance has been lackluster.”
    (18:46)

  • Frank Gore (Indianapolis Colts vs. Detroit Lions)

    Jason Moore advises benching Gore due to limited production against a strong defense:

    “Frank Gore hasn’t been getting it done and is up against the number one fantasy rush defense in Pittsburgh.”
    (19:11)

• Wide Receivers to Sit:

  • Stevie Johnson (New York Giants vs. Denver Broncos)

    Mike Wright cautions against Johnson despite his recent performance:

    “Denver’s defense has only allowed one passing touchdown all season to wide receivers.”
    (20:38)

  • Desean Jackson (Philadelphia Eagles vs. Dallas Cowboys)

    Jason Moore sits Jackson due to Dallas's robust secondary:

    “Carolina plays Dallas’s defense, which is the fifth best against wide receivers. Jackson is expected to have a down week.”
    (21:16)

  • Sammy Watkins (Cincinnati Bengals vs. Houston Texans)

    Andy Holloway points to Houston’s resurgence against elite receivers:

    “Houston’s defense has shut down top receivers like A.J. Green and Brandon Marshall in recent weeks.”
    (22:17)

• Tight Ends to Sit:

  • Jordan Reed (Dallas Cowboys vs. Cincinnati Bengals)

    Andy Holloway expresses uncertainty about Reed’s ceiling against a tough defense:

    “Dallas’s defense might limit Reed’s effectiveness, especially with potential quarterback changes.”
    (24:19)

  • Jason Witten (Dallas Cowboys)

    Mike Wright criticizes Witten’s lack of touchdowns and suggests opting for higher-upside tight ends:

    “Jason Witten has zero touchdowns since week one and limited catches. Opt for players like Vance McDonald or Zach Miller instead.”
    (24:19)

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Stat Quiz

The hosts engage in a lively stat quiz segment, challenging each other to identify players based on specific performance criteria.

• First Question:
  Mike Wright presents a riddle about a player who has scored a touchdown in eight out of ten games without exceeding 100 yards in any game. Jason Moore correctly identifies the player as Eric Decker:

  “That is correct. I am Eric Decker.”
  (03:13)

• Second Question:
  A running back who leads his team in fantasy points at the position and consistently racks up receiving yards despite limited snap counts. The player revealed is Theo Riddick:

  “Theo Riddick is second in receiving yards behind Danny Woodhead.”
  (05:46)

The segment highlights the importance of understanding player roles and matchups to make informed fantasy decisions.

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News and Notes

The hosts discuss various updates and news affecting player performances and team strategies:

• Theo Riddick’s Performance:
  Mike Wright commends Riddick’s consistent receiving yards despite offensive uncertainties:

  “Riddick is second in receiving yards behind Woodhead, indicating his value despite the offense’s dynamics.”
  (05:15)

• Melvin Gordon’s Consistency Issues:
  Concerns are raised about Gordon’s offensive line struggles affecting his productivity:

  “San Diego’s offensive line has been banged up, limiting Gordon’s effectiveness.”
  (06:00)

• Injuries and Player Status:
  Updates on players like Devonte Freeman, Carlos Williams, and Big Ben are provided, emphasizing their availability and impact:

  “Devonte Freeman is trending towards playing after a concussion. Carlos Williams is still recovering from a shoulder injury.”
  (09:18)

• Patriots Defense:
  Optimism is expressed about the Patriots’ defensive improvements with Jamie Collins returning:

  “I really like the Patriots defense with Jamie Collins back.”
  (10:52)

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Mailbag

Listeners' questions span a range of fantasy football dilemmas, with the hosts providing strategic advice based on their expertise.

• Alexa from Tampa:
  Question: Should she start Randall Cobb (Detroit) or Buck Allen (Miami) in a standard scoring league?
  Advice: Both players are impacted by their matchups, but Mike Holloway and Jason Moore lean towards starting Buck Allen due to Miami’s running defense vulnerabilities:

  “Buck Allen's baseline is better in standard and PPR.”
  (27:51)

• Ryan from Indianapolis:
  Question: Which player to flex in playoff week—Chris Ivory or Martavis Bryant?
  Advice: Andy Holloway suggests Ivory for flooring, while Jason Moore prefers Bryant for ceiling potential:

  “Chris Ivory for floor, Martavis Bryant for ceiling.”
  (29:17)

• Zach from Toronto:
  Question: Choosing between Doug Martin, Chris Ivory, Jeremy Hill, and Spencer Ware for critical starts.
  Advice: Jason Moore recommends sitting Jeremy Hill based on matchup uncertainties:

  “I think it's going to be Jeremy Hill you sit.”
  (35:05)

• Tony from Houston:
  Question: Should he start Macklin or Hearns for the rest of the season?
  Advice: Mike Wright leans towards Macklin due to Hearns' injury concerns, while discussing the robust potential of Allen Robinson:

  “Allen Robinson is a great wide receiver with high upside.”
  (40:01)

• Others:
  Additional questions address league dynamics, such as commissioner's challenges with collusion, and strategic starter choices against tough defenses.

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Additional Highlights

• Fantasy Playoff Preparation:
  As Week 13 approaches, the hosts emphasize gearing up for the fantasy playoffs, advising listeners to secure their playoff spots by strategically managing their lineups.

• Social Media and Community Engagement:
  The hosts encourage listeners to engage on platforms like Twitter and Facebook, and to submit questions via their website, fostering a strong community of fantasy football enthusiasts.

• Player Recommendations and Waiver Wire:
  Emphasis is placed on staying active on the waiver wire to capitalize on emerging talents and favorable matchups, with examples like Lamar Miller and Devonte Freeman discussed in depth.

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Conclusion

This episode of The Fantasy Footballers serves as a comprehensive guide for fantasy football managers navigating Week 13. Through insightful discussions, strategic "sits," interactive quizzes, and responsive mailbag segments, Andy, Jason, and Mike equip their audience with the knowledge necessary to make informed decisions as they edge closer to the fantasy playoffs. Their blend of expertise and relatability makes this episode a valuable resource for both seasoned players and newcomers alike.

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Notable Quotes:

• Mike Wright on starting players over favorites due to matchups:

  “I would rather start someone else with higher upside than Russell Wilson against Minnesota.”
  (16:38)

• Jason Moore on strategic benching:

  “Philip Rivers is not going to go in there and tear them up as Rivers has been, you know, not that great lately.”
  (17:32)

• Andy Holloway on tight ends:

  “Jordan Reed could struggle... so I’m probably going to lean on that other option.”
  (24:19)

• Mike Wright on Jason Witten’s performance:

  “Jason Witten has zero touchdowns since week one and limited catches.”
  (24:19)

These distilled insights reflect the hosts’ expertise and their commitment to helping listeners dominate their fantasy leagues.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Foreign.

[Jason Moore]

To the fantasy footballers podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright. That was a very weak wee.

[Andy Holloway]

It was, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I had a problem. Welcome to the show. That's probably the worst intro to the show that's ever been done so far.

[Jason Moore]

Just wait.

[Mike Wright]

Does everything sound okay in your ears?

[Andy Holloway]

It sounds fine to me.

[Mike Wright]

Sound good?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Good. Welcome to the show is Wednesday, December 2nd. We are the fantasy footballers and we are back yet again with fantasy football smorgasbord for you. Yeah, we've got our. This is our mailbag. Our mailbag day Wednesday. We've also got our sits of the week.

[Jason Moore]

Sits of the week.

[Mike Wright]

Got some trivia for you. Some fantasy trivia. We're going to talk all about what's going on in the fantasy world. Got a little bit of news to drop as well as we'll get you ready for the fantasy playoffs. Hopefully many of you are competing for a playoff spot or already in. Maybe you've got your feet up and you're just sipping some tea waiting for the playoffs to hit. Jason thought he was in our league.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I had the bye week locked up, guaranteed. And I lost an unlosable matchup. And now I have to face you to secure the buy.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, you do. If you want to follow the show. How do we do that? We do that on twitterffballers. We do that on Facebook. You can go to facebook.com thefantasyfootballers we started putting our segments up on Facebook, the video segments of the show. So you can check those out on.

[Jason Moore]

Facebook like us on Facebook and see us in your stream.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And we are on YouTube. You can go and subscribe on YouTube. All the shows go on YouTube. In fact, we just paid out three weeks worth of water bets.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And so we. We had to pay those out. Spin the wheel of water. It was pretty bad. In fact, the best watering that's ever taken place I think was Jason. He got ice bucketed and he's still cold. That his reaction in slow mo is pretty amazing.

[Jason Moore]

The piece of ice just stayed on my head, cooling the brain to unnatural temperatures.

[Mike Wright]

You were in agony. It was delightful. And check out the website, the fantasy footballers.com youm can go ahead and submit questions to us for the show on the website. You can see our rankings. Our rankings are up there for week number 13. You guys doing good?

[Andy Holloway]

I am doing spectacular.

[Mike Wright]

All right, we got quick questions of the day, which is really I'm gonna ask you guys. I'm gonna pretend to be a player and you Guys have to figure out who it is.

[Jason Moore]

Quiz.

[Mike Wright]

And you guys are competing against each other.

[Jason Moore]

Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

So don't be a loser. One of you will be.

[Andy Holloway]

So wait, you ready? Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

All right. So you try to figure out who I am. My team has played 11 games. I've. I've played 10 of them.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

I. Of those 10 games, I have scored a touchdown in every game but two.

[Andy Holloway]

So eight games.

[Mike Wright]

However, I've never eclipsed 100 yards in any game this season. So who am I?

[Jason Moore]

Ooh, I've got Eric Decker. That's who. My guess is as well.

[Mike Wright]

That is correct.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

I am Eric Decker. I got it out first.

[Jason Moore]

And you guys, a matter.

[Mike Wright]

You two shouldn't look at the doc because it has clues in there. So don't look at it.

[Andy Holloway]

Just listen.

[Mike Wright]

Just listen.

[Andy Holloway]

There's clues in it. I'm just trying to look at the question.

[Mike Wright]

No, I know, but you can. You can hear me.

[Jason Moore]

He doesn't get the point for that.

[Mike Wright]

So one point for Mike.

[Jason Moore]

That's ridiculous.

[Mike Wright]

It's first come, first serve, one nothing. Mike, I said it before. You said, no, you didn't.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I did.

[Mike Wright]

He said, I think I have a guess. And then Mike said, eric Necker.

[Jason Moore]

And then I said, yeah, that's who I. And then you go, that is correct.

[Andy Holloway]

I believe that is called second.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. All right.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know if you know how a line works.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's the first. First person actually wins. This is America in PPR and standard leagues. I lead my team in fantasy points at the running back position. I've got 25 or more receiving yards in every single game, and I play less than half of the team's offensive snaps.

[Andy Holloway]

Theoretic.

[Mike Wright]

Ding, ding, ding, ding. Well done. It's already over.

[Andy Holloway]

I gotta take my sweatshirt off because I am just burning up.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, these are obvious. These are both obvious questions.

[Mike Wright]

Well, sure. Says the guy who didn't answer any of them. All right. This has been number three. This has been my worst fantasy year of my career.

[Jason Moore]

Andy Holloway. Yeah. All right. Got him.

[Mike Wright]

Correct.

[Jason Moore]

So I am fighting for the two to one. Third question or fourth question?

[Mike Wright]

This has been the worst fantasy year of my career. I have not eclipsed 100 yards in any game. I've even put up a few goose eggs. I had one decent week against my former team.

[Jason Moore]

Andre Johnson.

[Mike Wright]

You got it?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. But here's the funny thing about Andre Johnson. Average draft position. What do you. What do you think it was?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, he was. He was pretty high. Fifth round.

[Jason Moore]

I'm gonna go fourth round.

[Mike Wright]

41. 41. And he was the 16th wide receiver taken. And we missed on him, didn't we?

[Andy Holloway]

Not this guy.

[Mike Wright]

The whole world did. Whole world missed because they drafted him so early.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

What do you guys think about Theo Riddick, though? I mean, that's a pretty impressive stat.

[Andy Holloway]

Line, Theo Riddick, for those who have lived with the fantasy footballers. Because we are a year long show and we were going last offseason. Theo Riddick was a guy that we loved going into the offseason. Before the draft, Amir Abdullah kind of changed everything because there was the assumption that Abdullah has the talent, he's a second round pick. Maybe the team is not very pleased with Theo Riddick and it's going to be Abdullah's show. So we've kind of faded Riddick and clearly faded him too much.

[Mike Wright]

You and I disagreed. We can go back on those tapes, though. I mean, I told you I thought Theo Riddick would be involved. Your opinion was that they were done with him, that's why they drafted Abdullah, which is fine.

[Andy Holloway]

I apologize if I put that in.

[Mike Wright]

But yeah, I didn't think that we liked him.

[Andy Holloway]

And then I loved Abdullah after the draft.

[Mike Wright]

Sure. No, and that's fair. It's the same argument that could be made against devonte Freeman. If you love devonte Freeman, why do you draft Devin Coleman?

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

As a team?

[Jason Moore]

Now, that being said, I mean, these stats, he leads his team in fantasy production, but that's not saying much from the running.

[Mike Wright]

Ranked running back in ppr.

[Jason Moore]

All right. That's saying something.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean, that's not. I don't think of it. Does anybody think of him as an RB2?

[Jason Moore]

No, I don't.

[Mike Wright]

And he was. I mean, he is in PPR and he's on waivers.

[Jason Moore]

We talked about him yesterday on the waiver show.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, just kind of crazy. He's. He's second in receiving yards behind Woodhead.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And man. San Diego, this is a public service announcement from the fantasy football community. Get back to it. Throw Danny Woodhead the ball.

[Mike Wright]

I don't even know what their agenda is right now as a team, other than moving their.

[Andy Holloway]

Their agenda is we're going to give Melvin Gordon 16 carries to see if he can actually do something, I guess. And the answer so far has been a strong resounding no.

[Mike Wright]

So where do you. Let's say he ends the year where he's at. Melvin Gordon. Melvin Gordon doing the same things.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

How confident are you that he can do what devonte Freeman did in year number two and be somebody special moderately. It's because offensive line there, it's troublesome.

[Andy Holloway]

That's where I was going with Gordon is the offensive line. And they have been ridiculously banged up at the offensive line in San Diego. Let's see what they would do in the draft. Do they address it? Bringing somebody else in and then just having everybody healthy, everyone healthy at your offensive line changes everything.

[Jason Moore]

So.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's move on.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

I just thought it was very funny. Like, okay, let's move on.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I didn't have anything else to say about Melvin Gordon, to be honest with you. I was just curious because he's somebody who. I don't know. He might get underdrafted because he's going.

[Andy Holloway]

To get underdrafted next year. Yes.

[Mike Wright]

So it's the time of year to be thinking about those type of things because, you know, we talked on the show yesterday about Langford, about Rawls, about J A Jai and different guys that are potentially Matt Jones going to have that first role.

[Andy Holloway]

That does remind me of a nice fantasy tip which I've done throughout the years is have a list somewhere. Write these names down. Like today and over the next couple weeks of. I can't forget this guy because over the course of the summer you're gonna get all these new opinions and ideas. Write them down while they are fresh, while you know what is happening. And honestly, with these lists, I hit on about 75% of them where I just remember the. My biggest one was just off the top of my head was two years ago. I think when desean Jackson has huge year in Philadelphia. Just the way that things were trending for him. Like, I cannot Forget to draft DeSean Jackson even though he's a guy I didn't like.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

For most of his career. Like next year, it just seems like he's going to have a great year with. With the way the offense was trending. And they write him down right now because they will pay off.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Yeah. So Devontae Freeman, what's the latest on him?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he missed the game with a concussion. All signs are he is trending in the correct direction, which is towards playing.

[Mike Wright]

And you're very confident starting, obviously.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You have to be.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. Nothing to add there. All right, Carlos Williams, what's the latest on his situation behind McCoy?

[Andy Holloway]

I have actually not heard anything. What do you got?

[Jason Moore]

I believe he is still out, unlikely to play.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. The last I had heard was that he is not through the protocol yet. And so they're. They're thinking he might miss one more week.

[Andy Holloway]

Did he have a concussion? I thought he hurt his arm or something. What was his. What was his injury? We need to figure this out.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I might have. Might have misspoke there. Yeah. The shoulder injury.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. I saw something with Rex Ryan today about him not being quite ready to be back on the practice field. So that's the. The news that needs to get out there is that I wouldn't expect him back this week. And even if he's back, he hasn't really had an impact with McCoy healthy and starting. So what else do we have? We have Big Ben situation. Does he have a concussion?

[Jason Moore]

He. The last reports are that he might or might not have a concussion. It's so ridiculous. There was a sea. You see headlines on. You know, you can go to the same website and see like battling headlines of Big Ben says he had a concussion. That Big Ben says he doesn't. Tomlin definitely says he's in the concussion protocol. I think he is in the concussion protocol for whatever is, you know, necessary. But he's. He's should be back and monitor it, though.

[Andy Holloway]

But as of now, he's expected.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's. There's a point yesterday on ESPN's website where there were simultaneous headlines. One on the side and one down below. That was one. Yeah. He has a concussion. One he doesn't.

[Jason Moore]

Said he was suffering vision problems or something.

[Mike Wright]

Ocular migraine. Yeah. Oh, that's what he said.

[Andy Holloway]

So that's not good.

[Mike Wright]

Either way, he's supposed to be back. I also want to mention for the Patriots defense, Jamie Collins is supposed to be back this week. I really like the Patriots defense. Terrell Pryor has been signed again back with the Browns.

[Jason Moore]

So just for. He's a more quarterback help. Right.

[Mike Wright]

Well, because how about that Dwayne Bow? Did we make any Dwayne Bow met?

[Andy Holloway]

We sure did. We had a Dwayne Bow versus Brian Hart line on the season.

[Jason Moore]

That's going to be an easy one for Andy.

[Mike Wright]

I feel good about that.

[Andy Holloway]

So he's just resting and he's going to come on real strong here.

[Mike Wright]

He's going to have to. Peyton Manning is going to have the cast removed from his foot this week. So he may be able to play in a few weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You starting him in the fantasy playoffs?

[Andy Holloway]

Nope.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Anything else you guys got going on in the news?

[Andy Holloway]

So that's a crazy thing. Just for a very quick discussion, my confidence level. I would start Brock Osweiler before I start Peyton Manning 100%, which is. It sounds as just waiting fantasy. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, okay.

[Andy Holloway]

It just. That's crazy where we have gotten to.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Yeah. I guess it's got to that point. The interceptions piled up.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly.

[Mike Wright]

So.

[Andy Holloway]

So before we get to.

[Mike Wright]

We didn't start either of them.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, that's. I'm not saying I want to, but just.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Do I.

[Jason Moore]

Sits of the week?

[Mike Wright]

I have to forgot that dirty drop.

[Andy Holloway]

I have to personally apologize. That is my fault for not fixing that.

[Mike Wright]

The dirty drop. Just leave it in there forever. I want my thumbprint all over these sits of the week. Especially with what you did with Russell Wilson last week. You gonna live that one down?

[Andy Holloway]

No. When. When you. When you say to sit a guy down and he has his career day, then how do you feel?

[Mike Wright]

How do you feel on the inside?

[Andy Holloway]

I feel pretty, pretty bad.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Well, I'm going to show you how to really sit Russell Wilson. Just in case you're curious. How do you kick it off quarterback sit of the week. Russell Wilson.

[Jason Moore]

Russell Werson.

[Andy Holloway]

He's heating up.

[Mike Wright]

Listen, he's playing Minnesota in Minnesota. Minnesota. Guess how many times they've given up more than two touchdowns this year?

[Andy Holloway]

How many?

[Mike Wright]

I told you this before the show.

[Jason Moore]

It's easy. Zero.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no. They only have given up two. That's the max all year long.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So I really don't like Russell Wilson's potential to blow up. If you need a big game this week doesn't mean he's going to be the worst quarterback in football. This is not worst quarterback in football of the week. This is your sit. I'd rather start somebody else with higher upside than Russell Wilson against Minnesota. Top five defense. So Russell's my set.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah my my set of the week. Another guy that is has been great on the year and is commonly started but Phillip Rivers this week. If you're Philip Rivers owner you need to sit him down. He's playing against Denver. We've seen it all year. Nobody has torched Denver. The Broncos D against the passing game, I mean they can be a little bit susceptible to the run but they are just shutting everybody down. There are no exceptions. Philip Rivers not going to go in there and tear them up as Rivers has been, you know, not that great lately and Denver's not where you're going.

[Andy Holloway]

To cure that ill and I am.

[Mike Wright]

Going to go much passion Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Thanks.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I agree and and what's what I like about your both of those is yeah they can be fine Rivers and Wilson but they just have a ceiling cap on them. You have to imagine I'm going big here. I'm going I've got to redeem myself and I am sitting down. Drew Brees. Drew Brees is taking on Carolina. Carolina has allowed two passing touchdowns in the last three weeks according to Pro Football Focus. The Carolina Panthers have the best pass coverage defense in the NFL. That includes Josh Norman, the second ranked cornerback in the league according to Pro Football Focus. So Drew Brees, if I have a better option, even though Brees is at home, I'm still going to go with the other option.

[Mike Wright]

All right, I'm sitting down Latavius Murray at the running back position. I know he's a starter for most teams. I'm still going to start him if I don't have a better option. But listen, Murray is facing Kansas City. Kansas City has given up one touchdown to running backs over the last seven weeks. You combine that with the fact Latavius Murray has scored one touchdown in the last five weeks and he's been bad. It's not good. So I don't, I don't like Latavius Murray.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you got Jay?

[Jason Moore]

Well, this one pains me to say it because he's been my guy since before the off season and he's on my team going up against Andy this week. But I'm going to sit Frank Gore and I am literally sitting him on my own team now that this doesn't mean that you, you know, sit give.

[Mike Wright]

Him your situation because it's a perfect example.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So on my situation I have, well, I've got a great team with all these great guys but this week's tough. I'm playing.

[Mike Wright]

He has to self assure himself A lot. You notice that that's a sign of a really secure fantasy player kind of tell himself how good he is.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I just kind of speak in facts, like leading the league in points. So I've got Lamar Miller and I've got Mark Ingram. I don't like really either of those guys this week, but I like them even more than Frank Gore, who is going to be on my bench. Frank Gore, he's banged up. He. He's been playing like he's banged up. I believe, you know, the last two weeks he put up three 34 yards and 24 yards in each one of those games, and that's with a total of, you know, over 30 carries. So he's just not getting it done. And he's going up against the number one fantasy rush defense in Pittsburgh. It's not a situation where I expect big things.

[Andy Holloway]

Speaking of Lamar Miller, I appreciate that transition because Lamar Miller is my suit of the week. He is taking on Baltimore. Baltimore has given up four touchdowns to running backs all year long, and there's only been two rushers who have or two times have they allowed more than 100 yards on the ground. Baltimore's run defense is still stout even though the rest of the team is eroding around them. And it could have something to do with that. You can throw on their defense so easily, so you just don't have to run either way. Combine that with Lamar Miller's struggles and the coaching change and my fear that Jay Ajayi will be getting even more work moving forward, that I just don't feel like Lamar Miller is a very strong play this week.

[Mike Wright]

All right. At the wide receiver position. This shows you how things can change week to week with different matchups. Last week, my start of the week at the wide receiver position with Stevie Johnson. This week, he is my sit of the week. And it has everything to do with the matchup. Last week he had a very big game. I think it's important to bring his name up because he had such a big game. Seven for 92 and a touchdown. He's a hot name on the waiver wire. This week. People are going to think I'm going to grab him and I'm just going to start him. But the fact is, he's playing Denver. You already heard the news about Philip Rivers playing Denver. Guess how many passing touchdowns Denver's given up this year to wide receivers? I told you this before the show, too. One.

[Jason Moore]

That one.

[Mike Wright]

On the whole season.

[Jason Moore]

Insane.

[Mike Wright]

Isn't that crazy?

[Jason Moore]

That is. We're in. We're in week 13. We're talking about week 13 and they've given up one touchdown to the wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

And the fact of the matter is you just can't. Stevie Johnson's not a heavy touchdown guy anyway. I'm not saying he's not going to get 5 for 48 in this game. That's very possible. But Stevie Johnson is not somebody that I love rolling out there. I'll start many more upside guys than Stevie Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

Well, this is why we do starts of the week and sits of the week. Right? He was your start of the week last week. He's your sit of the week this week. And I'm actually doing the exact same thing at the exact same position. Last week, my start of the week was Desean Jackson went out, got that 60 yard touchdown bomb like we were, you know, predicting in that type of a matchup. But this week he plays Dallas, Dallas's secondary and their, their whole defense has been pretty good. They're the fifth best against the wide receiver. So this isn't the type of matchup that I want to go for. That boom, desean Jackson game, I expected to be lower scoring, you know, that's where he's going to go out for three for 30 and be a complete bust type of game. So I'm sitting desean Jackson this week.

[Andy Holloway]

And this week I am sitting Sammy Watkins. I know people are going to be clamoring to get him back into the starting lineup after he went completely ham last week. But he takes on Houston and here is what Houston has done against number one wide receivers the last three weeks. Week 10, A.J. green, 5 for 67. Week 11, Brandon Marshall 5 for 47. Now Marshall did score, so he had a, he salvaged a day. And then last week, Brandon cooks five for 35. I mean, these are. Maybe Brandon Cooks isn't considered elite, but AJ Green and Brandon Marshall are both considered elite wide receivers. Fantasy football and Houston's defense has resurged to be who we thought they could be at the beginning of the year. And I just don't feel safe or great throwing Sammy Watkins even coming in off of that game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's interesting because all three of our guys had huge weeks last week. So we're tempering expectations that are just based on chasing one week's worth of points. So very interesting at the tight end position. I'm gonna let you kick it off, Mike, because this is your guy.

[Andy Holloway]

It brings me great sadness to say that I am going to, I'm going to sit Jordan Reed Rule 86, Rule 86. And this is simply because I just, I don't think the ceiling is there. I. The ceiling is there. I think the Dallas defense is good. Like Jason was talking about. The Dallas defense held Gronkowski, Rob Gronkowski to 4 for 67 and Greg Olson to 5 for 70. Now those are not horrific numbers when you're talking about tight ends, but when you're talking, talking about the number one and number two tight ends in the league, in my opinion, then you, they have done well by shutting them down. So Jordan Reed could struggle. It wouldn't shock me if he found the end zone, but he, if I have another option this week like most Jordan Reed owners do, I'm probably going to lean on that other option.

[Mike Wright]

All right. My tight end sit of the week is who I consider to be probably the most over owned player in fantasy football right now in over 95% of leagues, I believe right around there. And it's Jason Whitten. Jason Whitten. I saw the problem with Jason Whitten happen this week in one of our leagues where he had Delaney Walker in his lineup and he just put Whitten in there and I don't know why, I don't know why he just put Witten in there. But zero touchdowns since week number one. That's the first reason he shouldn't be in your lineup. He's had double digits one time since then. You know, just pathetic. There are so many other options, higher upside guys now you lose Romo, there's nothing that's going to happen that's positive for Jason Whitten. Unless you're talking about some garbage time drive that ends with five or six catches for 50 yards. So I don't see why you would start. I'd rather start Vance McDonald. I'd rather start Brent Selleck. I'd rather start Zach Miller. Anybody over him? Because I want upside at my tight end position, not just a baseline of one or two catches.

[Jason Moore]

Would you start Luke Wilson?

[Mike Wright]

I would, I would think hard about Luke Wilson.

[Jason Moore]

All right. For my, for my set of the week, I'm going back to.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, come on.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, well, I'm.

[Mike Wright]

Nobody starting him.

[Jason Moore]

No, that's not true. Here's. It's, it's just like your Jason Witten.

[Mike Wright]

It's not.

[Jason Moore]

I promise you it is. And let's make a water bet on his percentage starts this week. I'm gonna, I'm gonna say he started in over 50% of leagues this week.

[Mike Wright]

I don't agree with that. So put it on the Board.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Waterbed.

[Mike Wright]

Well, let's.

[Jason Moore]

Let's hope that.

[Mike Wright]

3 and 0 the last three.

[Jason Moore]

That's my point.

[Mike Wright]

We haven't even said his name. Go ahead.

[Jason Moore]

His name is Martellus Bennett. The Black Unicorn himself. He was out this last week. He was started in 10% of leagues this last week.

[Mike Wright]

That's not.

[Jason Moore]

When he didn't play.

[Mike Wright]

You know that's not true.

[Jason Moore]

No. Well, I'm just saying that's what ESPN's reporting.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Those are dead leagues.

[Jason Moore]

So he is owned right now in almost 90% of leagues in ESPN and he has been garbage for a long, long, long time. You take away his San Diego game and he's pretty much had almost the whole year where he's just.

[Mike Wright]

So he is Jason Whitten. We should put them both on a boat.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly.

[Mike Wright]

And push him out to sea.

[Andy Holloway]

Say, have a good return, give him a Viking funeral.

[Jason Moore]

But Martella Spinach shows the arrow.

[Andy Holloway]

Burn it down.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we need to move on. Okay, fine.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, I don't play him if he's on your name.

[Jason Moore]

He is on your roster. You can cut him, in my opinion, and go get someone better for your team.

[Mike Wright]

That is the problem. People have not cut either of those guys and I think they're totally cuttable. It's cuttable. All right, let's move on.

[Jason Moore]

Mailbag.

[Andy Holloway]

Mailbag.

[Mike Wright]

All right, if you have a question for the show, you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. click on the Submit a question button. We're actually going to kick this one off with a voicemail question. Let's go ahead and do that right now. Hey, guys, it's Alexa in Tampa. I want to give you guys a special thanks. I'm sitting at 7 and 5. Chance to win my division this week and clinch a first round bye in the playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

So thank you very much for the advice. My question for you is, do I.

[Mike Wright]

Start Randall Cobb at Detroit on Thursday night, standard scoring, or do I start Buck Allen at Miami? Don't really know what the right choice is, so thanks so much. All right, question from Alexa. Randall Cobb at Detroit on Thursday Night Football. Buck Allen at Miami, standard standard scoring league. I know my answer, but I'm going to let you guys talk.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man. The standard actually kind of hurts both of them because Buck Allen is an excellent pass catcher. Getting. He'll get four to five catches. So I would lean in the direction of Buck Allen because the Miami running defense has been allowing fantasy points to be scored. So that's where I lean.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm definitely going to go that way. I've been a Randall Cobb owner all year, had him coming in in our league of record and still have him some somewhat sadly on my team. He hasn't. I mean, you're talking about a standard, standard league. Since week four, he's only had two weeks where he's been over 60 yards. So if all you're getting is yardage and I mean maybe you're hoping for a touchdown, but you take away his receptions, his yards per catch have not been that good. So I'm definitely going Buck Allen here.

[Mike Wright]

And I completely agree, that's the direction I'm going as well. Buck Allen's baseline is better in standard and ppr. Thanks. Randall Cobbs is. At this point, I think the workload is what you want and Jason said it best. I mean Cobb just hasn't done it. So let's move on here. Ryan in Indianapolis, Week one of the playoffs. Playoffs, who should I flex? Chris Ivory at the Giants or Martavis Bryant against the Colts?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

Standard scoring league, these guys. These are some big time questions. Now, this is playoffs.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And I will answer it this way with Chris Ivory for floor, Martavis Bryant for ceiling. Even though it kind of seems like the, an obvious answer. That's just, that's the way it has to be for me. If you need a ton of points to go with Bryant.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Because Ivory's odds of getting you two touchdowns, I mean he's done it once this year. I think it's just not, not what you've been seeing.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. In general, if I'm, if I'm just having to pick one and I don't know, high or low, I'm going to go Chris Ivory. It's still a winnable matchup against the Giants. Run D. He, he looked, you know, mediocre for a lot of the game last game, but then he turned, turned it on at the end and had a great drive. Got in the end zone. So I would, I would lean Chris Ivory.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I lean that way too. Kyle and Huntington Beach. Which three running backs do I start this week? Mark Ingram against that Carolina defense. Chris Ivory at the Giants. Thomas Rawls at Minnesota. Buck Allen at the Dolphins. Jeremy langford at the 49ers. David Johnson against the Rams.

[Andy Holloway]

My goodness.

[Mike Wright]

Full point PPR. Full point PPR.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man, you're. You're league mates must hate you. You are the running back hoarder.

[Mike Wright]

What it is, is this is waiver wire.

[Andy Holloway]

Well done.

[Mike Wright]

You know, David Johnson, Jeremy Langford, Javorius Allen and Thomas Rawls are all probably waiver wire pickups.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

[Jason Moore]

Very good.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Buck Allen is in for me. I think I would. I would put him first because he does catch a lot of passes. I think he's got a winnable matchup. Obviously, I love Ingram, but Carolina scares me. I think I'm going to go, oh, man, this is tough, man.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to sit Langford down.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, let's try it that direction. Eliminate them. I'm going to sit Langford down. So now you've got. I don't know if I'm going to play David Johnson first week out over these other guys.

[Jason Moore]

If you've got great other options like this, I can see resting him.

[Mike Wright]

Ivory Rawls, Allen. Final answer.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going with Ivory Allen. It's going to be really tough for me to sit David Johnson against the Rams. I'm gonna go with David Johnson and.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going Ivory Allen and I want to go Mark Ingram.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it's tense in here.

[Jason Moore]

I want to go marking. I think I would go. I think I would go David Johnson, honestly.

[Mike Wright]

David Johnson vs. Rawls water bet in.

[Andy Holloway]

Full point in which. What's the scoring format?

[Mike Wright]

Let's do our league half point.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Water bets David Johnson.

[Mike Wright]

Rawls cost me. We didn't bring it up. Yeah, I lost the Rawls versus Buck Ellen bet by like a point, right? 17, 16, something like that.

[Andy Holloway]

It was a couple points, but yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I didn't. You Mike. Mike sent me a message last night and he's like, buck nasty bucks running all over him. I'm like, it's Cleveland, dude. I'm like, I. Nobody thought Buck Allen be bad. I didn't understand what he was doing. I thought he was, you know, blowing the trumpet for Buck Allen as the. I think I sent him a hashtag greatest of all time to mock him. And then I realized it was because of the water bet I made. Buck Allen vs. Thomas Rawls and I lost. So I'll get wet.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

Dan in Philadelphia. Well, Des Bryant with Castle throwing to him or Mike Evans be a better rest of season option.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike Evans? Yep.

[Jason Moore]

For sure.

[Mike Wright]

Evans for sure. All right. Travis in San Antonio, Texas. I own Tom Brady and Cam Newton.

[Jason Moore]

Very nice.

[Mike Wright]

Brady against Philly. Newton against New Orleans. Thank you very much. What is your answer?

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to go with Tom Brady against Philly. I think we've seen Philly give up. I think it was 17 touchdowns last game through the air and then 18 the week before. I could be Wrong on those numbers.

[Mike Wright]

But it was pretty close.

[Jason Moore]

Something similar to that. And Tom Brady, he's. He should have Amadola back, so I'm going to lean that way. Just a higher upside. And you still got a good floor, even though the New Orleans past is also atrocious.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm going with Tom Brady, and.

[Jason Moore]

This is the matchup. I got Cam against Brady, me versus Andy this week. So I hope I'm wrong.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's a tough one, I think because of the running success that they might see, maybe that, you know, the Patriots are running the least that they've ever run on a percentage of plays in the Brady era. So I think I'll stick with Brady on that one as well. What is the next question?

[Andy Holloway]

Nick In Boston, week 13, should I start Gary Barnage against the Bengals or Travis Kelsey against the Raiders? It is half point PPR win to get into the playoffs. So Gary Barnage clearly has the tougher defensive matchup. Gary Barnage also has the. The. The switcheroo of quarterback because we're assuming that Josh McCown will be out. That means we either get Austin Davis or likely Johnny Manziel. I think it'll be back to Manziel. And we've seen that Barnage does not have the same success he's still solid with, but with Manziel, he doesn't put up the numbers like he does with McCown. And Travis Kelsey gets the Raiders.

[Mike Wright]

So I'm going Kelsey, Travis, Kelsey.

[Jason Moore]

It's unanimous.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's who? Nan Kelsey had a good week last week, too. That helps. So, Rob.

[Andy Holloway]

So did Barnage. Barnage.

[Mike Wright]

He did.

[Andy Holloway]

He did all the catches.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Rob wants to know, which two would you rather have rest of season? Dante Moncrief, Devonte Adams, Kamar Aiken, or Marvin Jones?

[Andy Holloway]

Aiken for sure.

[Mike Wright]

Yep. Kamar's at the top.

[Andy Holloway]

And then I'll go.

[Mike Wright]

Moncrief.

[Jason Moore]

Yep, me too.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Moncrief.

[Jason Moore]

Because Devonte Adams stinks.

[Mike Wright]

Take every opportunity. All right, Zach in Toronto.

[Jason Moore]

Bonjour.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you. Sorry, I was reading.

[Andy Holloway]

I was reading a message. One of my friends just messaged me and said that they are. They are having another baby. Congratulations.

[Mike Wright]

What's their. Give them a shout out. What's their name?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I don't know if it's public knowledge.

[Mike Wright]

That would be not good then.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So I will withhold it for now.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Zach in Toronto. Hey, guys. My playoff spot is locked in, but I have a chance this week to eliminate a close friend of mine with a victory. So this Week matters more obviously. I need to start three of the following four in week 13. Doug Martin against the Falcons, Chris Ivory against the Giants, Jeremy Hill against the Browns, and Spencer Ware against the Raiders. Who do you guys think?

[Andy Holloway]

Who do you say?

[Jason Moore]

Well, this has to be under the assumption that west is out. Right. Because if west is.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, let's go with that.

[Jason Moore]

Then the decision is made for you. So we're going to say west is out, where is in? And then in which case I would be sitting Jeremy Hill.

[Mike Wright]

You're presuming. Is that what you said? You're presuming west is out and where is in?

[Jason Moore]

Correct. Because if west is back, then I.

[Mike Wright]

Think west to be back.

[Jason Moore]

Me too. So I think it's going to be where who you sit.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, okay. Because there's only four guys.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So, okay, so essentially I'm, I'm sitting.

[Jason Moore]

I think the question is if Spencer wears the starter. Would you rather have wear or Hill?

[Mike Wright]

I think I probably sit wearing no matter what.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's going to be. Oh, that's a really tough one because Jeremy Hill is coming off the best yards per carry game. He did tweak his ankle, but he gets a matchup with the Browns.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, then I'll stick with what Jason said. Hill where based on where's availability.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's go ahead and move on to Ryan in Atlanta. Wise men of the fantasy footballs, I need your advice. I am the commissioner of my wife's family league. Lately, some of my brother in laws that are out of contention have been sitting their players and letting their wives who are in contention win on purpose. They've readily admitted this. What punishment do they deserve and how can I prevent this in the future? Obviously with the family involved, I just can't kick them out of the league.

[Jason Moore]

This sounds like a great time for the wheel of water. They need to take some water in the face or on the back or in the duck butter.

[Mike Wright]

It's tough because if you can't kick.

[Andy Holloway]

Them out, you got to do something about it. This is not a league that you want to play in.

[Mike Wright]

No, that's the truth. But you're probably stuck playing in these family leagues. So a punishment and a commitment to not doing it in the future is probably the way you got to go with.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's the thing you got. If this is just for fun, there's really nothing you can do. If there is a. A prize involved, like a cash prize or even a trophy of just of some kind. If somebody knowingly tanks like you have seen then they are exempt from from this year's pot and next year's pot.

[Mike Wright]

I like it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's good. I took my wheel of watercore.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Sam in North Carolina, should I start the Panthers D this week against Drew Brees as the Breeze owner? I don't have another option at quarterback, but I do have the Bengals defense, who is I love this week. I know Breeze plays well at home, but I'm worried about the interceptions canceling it out and becoming a higher scoring game. I could also pick up Cutler or Taylor off of waivers.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say when he says that I don't have another Cutler.

[Mike Wright]

Over Brees, he says I don't have.

[Jason Moore]

Another option at quarterback. You have probably 16 other options at quarterback. The waiver wire is full this week. It's a great streaming week, and Drew Brees was your set of the week. Here's what I would do. I would wait till our rankings are up, go to our website and look at our rankings and you'll see where Drew Brees lands and you'll see all the guys above him who are on your waiver wire. Pick one of them up, play the Panthers D and sit Drew Brees. That's what I would do.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's tough.

[Mike Wright]

You don't think the Bengals D against the Browns is a better matchup than the Carolina going to New Orleans?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, because I actually missed that.

[Mike Wright]

Bengals D is better.

[Jason Moore]

I missed that part in general, but.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, so doesn't mean I would start Breeze.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's. That was my next question. Okay, so you've got the Bengals dn. Do you roll Breeze or do you sit Breeze as Mike, I think I might.

[Andy Holloway]

I might stop by the. The Circle K, pick up a J color, pick up a pack and roll out smoking J. Cudi.

[Mike Wright]

I like it. And I would do the same thing and I would not play Tyrod Taylor. All right, Tony in Houston. Okay, guys, rest of season, Macklin or Hearns?

[Andy Holloway]

What's got a. Wait, wait. Is this a four? Oh, it's a two pack of twos.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, Macklin or Herns?

[Andy Holloway]

At this point it has to be Macklin because we have no idea what's going on with Hearns of his injury.

[Mike Wright]

C.J. anderson or Woodhead?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, C.J. anderson. He's back.

[Mike Wright]

He seems as long as to be playing well.

[Andy Holloway]

Brock Osweiler is under center at CJ Anderson.

[Mike Wright]

He's on a four game winning streak, second place in their league.

[Jason Moore]

Boom.

[Mike Wright]

Boom. So talk to me about Hearn's situation and how that Impacts Bortles, how that impacts Allen Robinson, because it seems like when these guys are in there together, they're both very productive, especially Bortles. But Hearns is in trouble now with the injury.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it definitely hurts him. What can help off balance, that is if Julius Thomas really does step up like he did last week, had a monster game. We know that Julius Thomas is a very talented guy, so he could easily fill that. The void that Alan Hearns leaves behind. And the great thing about Allen Robinson is he can have three and a half quarters of a really bad game, but because he's with Jacksonville and Blake Bortles, the master of the trash compactor, he can get you that garbage touchdown with literally no time left. So there's always hope for Allen Robinson.

[Mike Wright]

You know, that's a sign. That's a sign of a great wide receiver, though, because that's what happens. Whether it's. Whether it's Julio or somebody else. You can have kind of a mediocre 3/4 of a game, but come through with the touchdown when it matters or come through with the big play when it matters and really save the day. Alan Robinson has been that good this.

[Andy Holloway]

Year because he's a great, great wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

Where do you see him? I mean, now it's miles early, but where do you see him next season in terms of the wide receivers?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, he'll probably be.

[Jason Moore]

Early.

[Andy Holloway]

Third round pick.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it was.

[Andy Holloway]

Would be my guess.

[Mike Wright]

So you have him Inside the top 10 at the wide receiver position? Right around there.

[Andy Holloway]

Right around there. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's.

[Andy Holloway]

He is an ascending talent to me, I think. Just watch him play. If you're just watching his box scores being like, yeah, good, check out. No, go watch him play. He's freaking good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, this last garbage time touchdown that he got where he saved a bad performance that was. I mean, they just threw the ball at a defender and Alan Robinson reached over him and grabbed it off of his helmet.

[Andy Holloway]

If Bortles knew where the line of scrimmage was, then Al Robinson would have an even bigger game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And so Hearns is not supposed to play this week, but he could be back the week after that. So that helps the rest of the season picture. But yeah, I'm with you guys on the picks. The Jaguars, I hate to say this because this is both a compliment and an insult at the same time.

[Andy Holloway]

Backhanded compliment.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Our specialty. I'm waiting to see what goes wrong for them because I really like their offense. In the future, going forward, you've got Bortles Yelden's young Julius Thomas can be integral. Robinson and Hearns are super capable and they've even got guys like Marquis Lee and Rashad Green. Right, that are talented guys if their offensive line gets in order. And they can protect Bortles, give them the ability to drive the ball downfield. He has the arm to do it. I just see so much potential there.

[Jason Moore]

That your Jacksonville, your Jacksonville love has got you in trouble for years, Andy. Believe last year you lost the water.

[Mike Wright]

Bet I'm not going to call it years yet because it was last year and then part of this year.

[Jason Moore]

Here's what I would say. If they can replace Gus Bradley, they can be decent.

[Mike Wright]

You have to take a shot at Gus.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I don't think he's a good coach.

[Mike Wright]

Gus is a fun loving guy.

[Jason Moore]

I like the dude. He's a good, fun guy. I don't think he's a good head coach. And I do think he'd be a decent quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, if I'm having.

[Mike Wright]

I hear he's a great father.

[Andy Holloway]

If I'm having a wine in a.

[Mike Wright]

Cheese party, no clue if he has kids.

[Andy Holloway]

There's an invitation in the mail. It's going out to Gus Bradley. Yeah, I want him at that party.

[Mike Wright]

Do you want him coaching?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Head coach.

[Mike Wright]

You don't either. Do you think they need somebody else? Yeah, you might be right. They haven't really produced yet, so.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I didn't they get back to back wins for the first time in two years?

[Mike Wright]

Well, they shouldn't have.

[Jason Moore]

Well, no, I know, but.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they did. And then, hey, they're in the mix, right?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's like a mixer. Like the party I'm having with Gus Bradley that doesn't involve coaching.

[Mike Wright]

All right, all right. Hey, let's tell you, let's tell everybody what's going on for the rest of the week. What do we got? We've got the Thursday.

[Andy Holloway]

Thursday is our starts of the week and we start breaking down the matchups. Yes, the Fantasy Forest forecast. Absolutely. Then Friday we finish that up with some. With the rest of the matchups. We tell you who we like, who we do not. And then we will be visited by our good friend from the Great White North. Yes, Chris Mead, who will break down some excellent daily fantasy options, win you that sweet quiche and then, then it's week 13 and then it is own. It is own.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, so that's. That's basically it. Stay tuned. This week we are here. We're delivering all the Week 13 news, notes, information, good stuff. Well, we'll let you know. Anything else?

[Andy Holloway]

Two notes before we close. Really quick. Andre Ellington is doubtful. In doubt for this week, which we knew that was kind of the, the concept, the ideas that were out there. But now it's confirmed by Ian Rapoport that Andre Ellington is doubtful with the.

[Mike Wright]

Turf toe David Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

And then I cannot remember the gentleman's name, but we ran into a listener of the show at Chipotle.

[Mike Wright]

Yep. And he longest odds of the world too.

[Andy Holloway]

And he was on a business trip and he had made a joke with his friend of.

[Mike Wright]

He's from Missouri.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe I'll run into the footballers. And he did because they're going.

[Jason Moore]

Because he's going to Arizona. Oh, maybe you'll see the footballers.

[Mike Wright]

And he did.

[Jason Moore]

But.

[Andy Holloway]

But we did not snap a picture with this.

[Mike Wright]

So this is just to affirm it.

[Andy Holloway]

I just want to let his friend know he's telling the truth. Yeah, we met your friend. He is an upstanding citizen.

[Mike Wright]

Sounded like his team was doing well. Yeah, he eats at Chipotle.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's.

[Mike Wright]

Well, that's, that's part of the vetting process. If we meet you at Chipotle, you already passed step one.

[Andy Holloway]

Also like the Walking Dead. The first question, how many times have you had Chipotle this week?

[Jason Moore]

Chipotle, where are you? Why aren't you the sponsor of our show? Get it together. Give us those gold cards. We want you.

[Mike Wright]

That's right. That's right. So that is it for today's show. Thanks for listening. Check out the website, visit jointhefoot.com, join into the community and we'll catch it tomorrow.

[Andy Holloway]

I guess it was a group message, so congratulations, Chris.

[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.thefantasyfootballers.com and follow us on Twitter @the ffballers.