Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 10 Matchups, The Daily Dose, & TNF Review

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary Episode: Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Week 10 Matchups, The Daily Dose, & TNF Review
Release Date: November 13, 2015

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Introduction

In this engaging episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright dive deep into Week 10's fantasy football landscape. Skipping past the advertisements and intros, the trio focuses on matchup analysis, injury reports, fantasy forecasts, DFS strategies, and a review of a thrilling Thursday Night Football (TNF) game.

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Weekly Matchups and Bets

The hosts kick off the discussion with friendly banter about a water bet on LaShawn McCoy versus Jonathan Stewart. After a closer look at their performances, Andy reflects:

"If he [Chris Ivory] had failed last night and had a fourth straight game with low yards per carry, I would have been in full panic mode." (05:38)

They analyze key matchups, including the Dolphins vs. Eagles game, predicting an over/under of 49 points. Focus is placed on DeMarco Murray, who stands as the consensus number two running back for the week.

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Injury Reports and Player News

A comprehensive injury report covers key players potentially missing Sunday's games:

• Chris Ivory: With Bilal Powell expected back next week, Mike suggests selling Ivory due to lowered floor with Powell's return.

  "If there's any running back to sell, I would personally sell Chris Ivory high at this point." (04:46)

• Carlos Williams: Scoring six straight touchdowns, Mike recommends selling him despite high production.

  "You absolutely sell him right now." (06:14)

Other notable injuries include Zach Ertz's potential sit-out, Latavius Murray's concussion status, and various wide receivers like Alshon Jeffrey and Kendall Wright being questionable.

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Fantasy Forecast: Player Rankings and Advice

The trio presents their rankings and strategic advice for the week:

• Running Backs:

  • DeMarco Murray: Valued at number two, praised for consistent usage and strong performance against Miami.

    "DeMarco Murray is a fine, solid guy." (20:32)

  • Lamar Miller: Ranked fifth with moderate expectations against the Eagles' strong defense.

• Wide Receivers:

  • Jordan Matthews: Viewed as a valuable, low-cost option with potential upside.

    "I like him going forward and he is a cheaper target that I would try to acquire for the stretch run." (22:41)

  • Willie Snead: His status remains uncertain due to injury, prompting consideration of alternatives like Colston and Benjamin Watson.

• Tight Ends:

  • Jordan Reed: Despite struggles, remains a legitimate flex play due to the weak Washington pass defense.

    "Jordan Reed isn't your starting tight end. And you are now putting Jordan Reed against other decent wide receiver options." (26:08)

  • Rob Gronkowski: Continues to be a top-ranked tight end with a favorable matchup.

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Daily Dose: DFS Strategies

Special guest Chris Meaney joins the hosts to dissect Daily Fantasy Sports (DFS) strategies. Key takeaways include:

• Quarterbacks:

  • Aaron Rodgers: Recommended despite high cost, citing his favorable matchup against struggling defenses.

    "I'm willing to pay up for Aaron Rodgers." (50:32)

  • Blake Bortles and Allen Robinson Stack: A favored combination for value and upside in their matchup against Baltimore.

    "This is a great matchup against Baltimore. I love his wide receivers." (51:34)

• Running Backs:

  • DeMarco Murray: Highlighted for strong performance against Miami, where the Bills allow significant rushing yards.

  • LeGarrett Blount vs. James Starks: Chris prefers Blount for potential workload and touchdown opportunities.

    "I would go Blount. I really would." (54:14)

• Wide Receivers:

  • Jarvis Landry and Michael Crabtree: Recommended for their target volume and favorable matchups.

    "Play Crabtree." (56:09)

• Tight Ends:

  • Tyler Iford: Suggested for his consistent target share and price point.

    "Tyler Iford is a guy for me that I'm willing to roll out there almost every single week." (55:54)

Chris emphasizes the importance of leveraging value plays and stacking in DFS lineups to maximize points effectively.

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Legal News: Fantasy Sports in New York

The hosts address the legal challenges facing DFS platforms like FanDuel and DraftKings in New York. Andy explains:

"The Attorney General of New York sent a cease and desist letter to FanDuel and DraftKings." (58:28)

Mike outlines the industry's response, noting the platforms' intention to fight the injunction and urging listeners to support the petition at FantasySportsForAll.com.

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Conclusion

Wrapping up, the Fantasy Footballers provide final thoughts on strategic play for the week, emphasizing the importance of staying informed and adaptable. They encourage listeners to utilize tools like the Sportsmanias app for optimal lineup decisions and to engage with their content for ongoing fantasy football success.

"Having good information is how you win your fantasy league." (17:06)

The hosts sign off by inviting fans to connect via their website and social media platforms, ensuring continuous support and insight for the fantasy football community.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• "You absolutely sell him right now." – Mike Wright (06:14)
• "Jordan Reed isn't your starting tight end. And you are now putting Jordan Reed against other decent wide receiver options." – Jason Moore (26:08)
• "I'm willing to pay up for Aaron Rodgers." – Chris Meaney (50:32)
• "Tyler Iford is a guy for me that I'm willing to roll out there almost every single week." – Chris Meaney (55:54)

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This comprehensive summary captures the essence of the Fantasy Footballers' Week 10 episode, providing listeners and non-listeners alike with valuable insights and actionable advice for their fantasy football endeavors.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome to Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in. Welcome to the show. It's a beautiful morning here in the neighborhood. Friday, you got the Friday dance going on.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, well, I mean, it's the last show of the week, which means the smorgasborgel of Sunday morning football is nearly upon us.

[Andy Holloway]

I saw your jukes there in your seat and they looked a lot like Shady McCoy.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, thanks. Yeah, on a dime.

[Andy Holloway]

Thanks, bro.

[Jason Moore]

I really like my water bet right now.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's looking good.

[Andy Holloway]

Wait, what was the water bet?

[Jason Moore]

Shady versus JSTU.

[Andy Holloway]

No, it wasn't.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, it was.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

LaShawn McCoy versus Jonathan Stewart. That is correct. Who made that bet?

[Jason Moore]

You did. You?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to go audit this. Yeah, that's the bet we made. Why did I make that bet?

[Jason Moore]

I don't know. Hey, Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

Because I thought at the Shady with Carlos Williams and the jets and everything.

[Mike Wright]

At the time, I didn't think it was a bad bet by any means.

[Andy Holloway]

Here we go. Touchdowns for Jonathan Stewart. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah, it was a good game by Shady.

[Mike Wright]

He looked quite healthy.

[Andy Holloway]

Quite that. The most impressive run on the entire night was him picking up the first down. Did you see that play? It was like the Madden button the jukes where he was five yards behind the line of scrimmage, running outright, juked about six guys, gets the first down. So welcome to the show. This is the Friday episode. November 13th is the date. We are the Fantasy Footballers. I'm Andy Holloway joined by Jason Moore and Mike the fantasy hitman himself. Oh, and he just got kicked in the groin, apparently.

[Mike Wright]

I don't. You. You went with the full nickname? Yeah, I felt I had to go pro. Like a primeval grunt.

[Andy Holloway]

Was that like the emphatic. Yeah, that's what I. That's what I heard.

[Mike Wright]

So that was my opponent. When they saw that I. That I had the courage to play the Sean McCoy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but didn't you get a bunch of points scored against you by the Buffalo?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there was also the same noise I made when the buff. When Buffalo Scored that defensive touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Carlos Williams with a sixth straight game with an offensive touchdown which is like I think one of only two players in history.

[Mike Wright]

I believe that is. I believe he's the second player to his first six games.

[Andy Holloway]

Very impressive. We've got some news to fill you in on today. So you're all caught up in the fantasy world. We've got our injury report. So you know who we think is our who's playing on Sunday Morning, Some of the injured guys we've been talking about all week. The second half of our fantasy forecast. We got our Daily Dose segment where we'll give you some DFS advice, some fanduel information so you can win in those leagues this week. And we'll hit the mailbag as well. So we got a jam packed show.

[Mike Wright]

So let's sit here quietly.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I do. I just. That's when I take the temperature of the room. I'm seeing what's going on. Jason's just kind of head bobbing. I'm just waiting. I don't think he's here yet. I don't get it.

[Mike Wright]

I'm ready for the quick question.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, well that's cool because you put two of them in there.

[Mike Wright]

I'm ready for the quick questions.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. What do you do with Chris Ivory and Carlos Williams?

[Mike Wright]

Chris Ivory, honestly, I had to be.

[Andy Holloway]

A good sign last night. Absolutely good run defense. Not to mention sorry for him himself. Zach Stacy broke his ankle last night. He was the primary backup between the.

[Mike Wright]

Tackles for Chris Ivory currently because Bilal Powell has been out. Bilal Powell looks to be back next week.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what we're expecting. He's got 10 more days off.

[Jason Moore]

Steven Ridley got a couple carries and looked terrible.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, everything I had read in practice about Ridley was that he just didn't seem like he had quickness back yet.

[Mike Wright]

But I expect Powell to come back to his workload that he was getting earlier in the year, which is he's really getting all the passing downs. He's getting a good bit of touches, just, just carries on the ground. So he's going to eat into Chris Ivers workload. If there's any running back, and I wrote about this on Fantasy Pros, if there's any running back to sell, I would personally sell Chris Ivory high at this point.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we talked about that a little bit yesterday. I don't know. I mean when Powell was there and ivory was getting 29 touches. I mean 29 carries. 20 carries. I agree with the kind of his floor lowers with Powell because Powell Would be in there on, come on, games where they're behind in game flow or third downs like you said. But he's a pretty stable back. I don't know if I'd sell him, but I don't know if I'd expect him to be a top five guy either.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. I think tempering expectations. But he looked great last night. He really did. He didn't get in the end zone. Yeah. Five you're expecting. But his runs were great. His offensive line wasn't always great. There were a couple plays where, you know, it didn't look like he had anywhere to go. And he burst through for nine. He caught that little dump off run and took it.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly.

[Jason Moore]

Well, sure. I mean, he. Some of those.

[Andy Holloway]

He ran over five a carry for 100 yards.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Chris Meaney]

If he had.

[Andy Holloway]

If he had failed last night and had a fourth straight game that was low yards per carry. Bad. Looked bad, I would have been in full panic mode.

[Jason Moore]

And now he gets full panic mode. 10 days of rest. So to answer your question, what do you do with Chris Ivory? To me, I say you just start him.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And so Bilal Powell went out in the Miami game and that's. And so he really was not a part of the Miami or Washington games, which were the. Those were the Monster Ivory games. Right. So I just. He's a sell candidate for me.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure, sure. So what about Carlos Williams? You cannot book if only two players in history have gotten a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

You absolutely sell him right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that is the. That is the right call.

[Mike Wright]

And people are, well, how can I sell a handcuff? He scored in six straight games. You can probably sell him to somebody. He and I heard the stat of today from Mike Clay was talking about this like, oh, well, he's the goal line back. How many carries inside the eight yard line does Carlos Williams have?

[Andy Holloway]

None.

[Jason Moore]

One.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow, that's crazy.

[Mike Wright]

What does that mean? It means his touchdown pace is not sustainable. He's not getting goal line work. He's scoring from very far away. And he just. He's a guy that I am looking to sell.

[Andy Holloway]

You're looking to sell him even if you own shady.

[Mike Wright]

If I own shady. No.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. I'm saying.

[Mike Wright]

But eight to the shady McCoy owner is perfect. Of. Of this high level of handcuff who's producing and even to somebody who's not the LaShawn McCoy owner who's in running back troubles, they might see, oh, man, this guy's scoring all the time. I got to get in on it.

[Jason Moore]

And if you are the shady owner, you should pay for him. You should, you should be willing to give up a decent amount because we've seen Shady be injured through the preseason a couple of times through the season and if he goes in as a, as a full time, you know, backup replacement, he's going to be great.

[Andy Holloway]

If there's one thing we've seen over the last three weeks and I talked to somebody who wrote a question in and they had lost like Foster, Bell, Lewis in successive weeks. If there's one thing we know, guys can go out and you're getting close to trade deadlines and you're getting towards the playoffs, acquiring your handcuff is pretty crucial right now. I, as an Ivory owner will be looking to probably pick up Bilal Pal next week and I could have picked him up this week just to be ready for it, but I'm not, I'm not too worried about being able to get him, but I want that insurance because I might not be able to get another guy and I'll be rolling out either. You know, he's not my favorite guy to roll out if Ivory was out. But at least you have somebody that's a starter get you some baseline of points. So let's go ahead and get you caught up with what's going on.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, let's go ahead and go through the news and notes. Is there anything huge that has stuck out to you that's not injury related?

[Mike Wright]

That is not injury related?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, because we're going to get into the in and out section of the injury report and we can go over some of those things there. But is there anything that's taking place that you're. That's not injury news?

[Mike Wright]

The only thing that I think was something that of note that was not injury related is the Washington Post does not expect Washington to resign Alfred Morris. And this is just a note for those in Dynasty or Keeper with that, I would think that Matt Jones is in line to get the opportunity next year, assuming that Morris is not resigned. So maybe he's a guy you can get kind of cheap because people are souring on him right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Wouldn't it stand a reason then that he's the guy that's going to get the workload the rest of the season good or bad because they want to?

[Jason Moore]

Not. Not necessarily. Sometimes you. We've seen teams do exactly what you're saying, but we've also seen teams where they just run a guy into the ground because they know he's not going to be there next year doesn't that.

[Andy Holloway]

Normally happen if they produce?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it really depends on the production. But right now, who's producing there?

[Andy Holloway]

Nobody.

[Jason Moore]

Nobody. So it's not like, well, put Matt Jones in, see what he's got. It's rest them up for next year.

[Andy Holloway]

Unless you're talking about a fumble contest, in which case Matt Jones is really good. He's going away with it.

[Jason Moore]

So the rookies, they can't hold the ball. Cannot hold the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

Gordon, David Johnson, Matt Jones, it's like they get here and they're surprised at the fury of NFL defensive guys.

[Mike Wright]

Are these guys are much stronger than the college players.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, exactly. So, okay, so I'm going to go through some of these injury. We'll go through the in and out and then you guys give me feedback. Tell me what's going on with these players as well.

[Jason Moore]

What's it going to be, McFly?

[Chris Meaney]

Are you in or out?

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Josh McCown is the only kind of questionable quarterback situation that. That is worthy of talking about. Do you guys believe Josh McCown will be in for the Browns?

[Mike Wright]

I think he's going to play.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely. He should be in. He's been practicing and he is a tough, tough guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Bump up for Barnage.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

For sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Bump up for Benjamin.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. For the whole passing offense.

[Andy Holloway]

All players named with a B.

[Mike Wright]

Pump up the volume.

[Andy Holloway]

Pump up the volume.

[Jason Moore]

Duke Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

Not turban, though.

[Mike Wright]

No, he's. He's waived.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Did you see. That's another piece of news that's not injured. Did you see Josh Robinson was waived?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yes. From the.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike just reported that yesterday. That is surprising because he. They have been impressed with him. 6th round rookie and he's gone.

[Jason Moore]

Just. I don't know. I think they were impressed with him in camp. I don't think he did anything on the field this entire year.

[Andy Holloway]

I totally agree, but I'm surprised they gave up with on him like that.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he is. He's one of those rookies who was also fumbling.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah, that is true. Goal line fumbles for him. All right, running backs in or out.

[Mike Wright]

Latavius Murray, he has declared himself symptom free and he's returned to limited practice. I have not heard if he's gotten the full clear.

[Jason Moore]

He has not. He has not gotten the full clear yet. So he's still waiting on permission to play inside.

[Andy Holloway]

I have him in. I've had him in all week.

[Mike Wright]

If he's in limited right now, he was. He's probably trending towards playing with that concussion.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I have him out solely because he has a history of it. He hasn't gotten the clearance yet and we're late in the week. So it is Latavius Murray is absolutely a situation where you have got to, you've got to be prepared for him to be out in. You know, sometimes you kind of have a gut feeling that I think is that you can go with here. It's.

[Andy Holloway]

And we might get feeling you might get more information today. So.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Make sure you're following the news. You can check that out on the Sportsmanias app as well. All the news is on there. So Dexter McCluster. I bring him up less for Dexter McCluster owners but for Antonio Andrews owners because Antonio Andrews could get some third down work. If Dexter McCluster's out. Do you think he'll play?

[Mike Wright]

I think he's going to sit this week. But this is a. Watch the practice report today.

[Andy Holloway]

Bunch of wide receivers that are questionable this week. A report came out about Alshon Jeffrey and it was comedic because after the report came out that he had what did he tweak his groin? Groin.

[Mike Wright]

My groin.

[Andy Holloway]

So are we worried about it?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

At least a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason, you're a Jeffrey owner.

[Jason Moore]

I am a Jeffrey owner. I'm a little bit worried about it because we, you know, we say we don't like when things crop up in the middle of the week and especially if they're on the Chicago Bears because you get absolutely no information he's due to do. I mean there were, there were reports like whoa, we saw him walking around without a limp. Like, give me a break. That's not news. That's, that's nothing. So really I feel like right now you're going to assume he's in because he's been playing through injuries. He's in a contract year. But keep your ear to the wire and you know, have, have a contingency plan in case he's a game time decision and ruled out.

[Andy Holloway]

How.

[Mike Wright]

How have the Bears not resigned him?

[Andy Holloway]

Jeffrey?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

How are you letting. I just. That's crazy to me.

[Jason Moore]

Also a thing to note with Jeffrey. I had him a little bit lower in my rankings already just because of the matchup. It's not a very good matchup for him this week going up against the Rams. So if he is hobbled and that, you know, I mean, I'm not saying you sit Jeffrey. I might sit Jeffrey. I guess in truth, I might put in Mike Evans over Jeffrey. He's a viable option if I'm scared about the groin and the matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

If you need a direct handcuff when jeopardy was out, that's when we saw Marcus Wilson actually be valuable. Royal probably misses another game again. So Marcus Wilson could be just a handcuff option for you. If Jeffrey was to sit, that's where I would go. Unless they had a better option. Des Bryant. Will he play?

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Will he be good?

[Mike Wright]

He'll be. He's a low end. One for me.

[Andy Holloway]

Alan Hearns. We talked about him this week for Blake Bortles. Is Hearns going to play?

[Mike Wright]

Everything said no. But now there's expectations out of Jacksonville that he is in fact going to play. Foot injury.

[Jason Moore]

He has missed practice, I'm pretty sure every single week this year and played. So I'm going to have to lean towards playing in or out.

[Andy Holloway]

John Brown in. Emmanuel Sanders.

[Mike Wright]

Ooh, that one. I assume he's going to play, but he's got an ankle and a shoulder injury that he's dealing with and a quarterback problem. Yeah, Peyton Manning is nicked up.

[Andy Holloway]

Sanders had a big week last week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I expect Sanders to play.

[Andy Holloway]

Willie Snead has not practiced at all.

[Mike Wright]

This week yet, so that's not the greatest. He has a delightful matchup against Washington this week. I assume he's going to practice today, but keep your eye out for that. If he doesn't practice today, then there's some serious doubt. Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Vincent Jackson out.

[Jason Moore]

Probably out.

[Andy Holloway]

Kendall Wright out.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, tight ends. Austin, Safari and Jenkins ever.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

There was a note about him that he's still not cleared. He's been practicing.

[Andy Holloway]

He doesn't understand why he's practicing for two weeks.

[Mike Wright]

He's still not been cleared to play. So it I guess out. But I don't understand what's going on over there.

[Jason Moore]

Nobody does.

[Andy Holloway]

Jordan Cameron.

[Mike Wright]

I've actually not heard an update on Cameron lately.

[Jason Moore]

Has he been playing?

[Mike Wright]

No, he.

[Jason Moore]

Well, let's just curious. I didn't see him last game.

[Mike Wright]

As in all year. Yeah, he was so he was limited at practice with a hamstring. It seems like he'll play. Larry, Danielle, that got that neck problem.

[Andy Holloway]

Man says out. I'm thinking out.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's you don't mess around with the neck.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Any other news and notes worthy of discussing here before we move on?

[Jason Moore]

Nope. Got a lot to cover.

[Andy Holloway]

I think we got everything else there. So before we move on, I want to remind everybody about the free sports manias app. It's one of our very favorite apps. Let me tell you one of the things I love about it. I can load in all of My fantasy teams and the football teams that I want to know about. Right. Like Arizona. I'm a huge Cardinal fan. I have a dedicated feed to the Arizona Cardinals for regular news. I don't have to open up some other app to get Arizona Cardinal news and then open up a fantasy app to get fantasy news. I've got all my teams loaded up in the feed and I just click between them. The Cardinals, my team, the Big Red Rage. I don't think I've ever said the name of my team on the Big Red Rage is on there. And I can just click through, see the latest news. I don't miss anything. We're talking about the latest articles, you got videos on there, rumors about what's going on. And we always say this on the show. Having good information is how you win your fantasy league. After the draft. You need good information so you can react quickly. That's part of why you're listening to the show right now. And so a good tool for you, a fantasy football tool is the Sportsmanias app. They turn players into champions. That's what we, we hope we do, too.

[Jason Moore]

All three of us use the app personally, so we do recommend it. Go get it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And they just released too, an entire set of fantasy football emojis so you can trash talk your friends. So just an added feature on there as well. So go to the iOS app store. Go to your Android Google Play store. Grab the free Sports Manias app. You won't regret it. It's completely free. It's just a good tool for you to have. So let's go ahead and move it on. Let's talk about the games this week.

[Jason Moore]

Fantasy forecast.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, guys, I haven't declared my almost upset of the week yet.

[Mike Wright]

Is it coming?

[Andy Holloway]

What was my one last week?

[Mike Wright]

I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, is the Rams, Vikings. And that one went down to a last second field. Yeah, that was an almost definition of almost. Right?

[Jason Moore]

That was a good almost.

[Mike Wright]

Nailed it.

[Andy Holloway]

Although I did make a bet. I bet we're going to pay out the water bets, by the way. Hopefully I made a bet with Jason and I should have gone with that one, but the 49er game, Falcons 49ers. And I won that one.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So I don't know how I did.

[Jason Moore]

Darn it.

[Andy Holloway]

Me and Blaine Gabbard have no clue how that happened, but, oh, Blaine Gabber.

[Mike Wright]

Knows because he's a professional quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, the Dolphins head into Philadelphia and take on the Eagles, who are favored in this game. High point, high scoring. What am I saying?

[Jason Moore]

Vegas spread.

[Andy Holloway]

High line.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. High over, under.

[Andy Holloway]

High over. Under 49 points in this game. Tannehill, Bradford. I like Bradford as one of those streaming options. He was kind of my second option on the streaming list.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's not too bad. Not too bad. He looked like to me, it's. It's about Jordan Matthews that. And that's why the passing game has been struggling. They. He was kind of the number one there was. There's really no other number one on the team. It had to be Matthews. And just with all those drops and the mental mistakes, it's been horrific for Matthews, who. And last week with making tough catches, I think that that could give him the confidence to help him out in the stretch run. So I like Matthews in this game, which. And so facto means that Bradford is okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Bradford scored way more fantasy points when his receivers have caught the ball compared to when they did not.

[Mike Wright]

That is a true statement.

[Andy Holloway]

So DeMarco Murray, what are our feelings about him this game?

[Jason Moore]

Rest of season he's an RB one and I think that that's in both. I think that's in this game and rest of season. His usage is great. You, because of the offense of Philly, you kind of have to pick your poison with certain things. And they use him a lot in the passing game. He gets a screen or two that busts for a decent gain each game and he's got a nose for the end zone, so he's a fine play. He's not, you know, he's not going to be your Todd Gurley, but he is as solid as your middling RB ones that you can find.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, consensus wise, we have him at number two this week, so we have Gurley as the far and away number one. Our number two is DeMarco Murray. We have Peterson three, Ingram four, McFadden five this week as a. As a show. So we like DeMarco Murray quite a bit.

[Mike Wright]

Well, Miami is 31st and giving him yards, so.

[Andy Holloway]

And the workload is there for him.

[Jason Moore]

And people are still skewed at the beginning of the year when Murray just couldn't get it together. That's fair. He's had over 20 fantasy points, three out of his last four games. So Murray is a fine, solid guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so let's talk about the other side of the ball at the running back position. Lamar Miller has put up two huge weeks out of the past three. What do we make of his kind of, you know, the Eagles defense is pretty good. It's in Philadelphia. Jay Ajay, he's getting A few more carries. I don't know if that matters yet. But Lamar Miller, what is your take on him? He's a one this week.

[Mike Wright]

I would put him in a low one. I would temper your expectations. I think the Eagles are very solid defense and they're very. I have an opportunistic at getting the turnovers which if in Tannehill is kind of a turnover friendly quarterback right this season, which would not be a great thing for game flow for Lamar.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I have him at 17 this week. You guys both have him at 8, so he comes in at 11 on our consensus rankings. That is just behind guys like LeGarrett Blunt and Jonathan Stewart. Just ahead of Charkandrick west and Chris Ivory from last night who had a okay game.

[Jason Moore]

One of the things that's helped Lamar Miller a lot. So obviously his usage has changed dramatically with the coaching change and he's been good with that. But the nice thing is that he is game flow proof at this point. He caught, you know, seven balls for almost 100 yards last year. Just in the air just last week. Last. Last week, five the week before. So he is, you know, fully involved in the passing game. He's been fully used in the running game. So that's where we've got him. 8. I agree. Even seeing yours at 17, this is a tough matchup. This is a matchup that could prove that Lamar Miller hits his floor. But I think his floor is really high because he's going to get usage and he's going to catch the ball. So. So he's a safe play to me. But I don't expect a great big blow up week the way that we've seen, you know, two of his last three.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, let's, let's go ahead and talk about wide receivers here. Mike mentioned Jordan Matthews. I heard him on the radio yesterday talking about the fact that Matthews is a target for him in trades right now because you could buy him low. He hasn't performed up to par, but he still has the potential. Right. In this offense. We saw it a little bit last week. It took him an extra quarter but he got a big touchdown. What are your feelings on him?

[Mike Wright]

On Matthews?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Is that just the basic summary of that?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean I like him going forward and he is a cheaper target that I would try to acquire for the stretch run.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, I completely agree. His targets have been there. His catches have been pretty, pretty decent. I mean he's got, you know, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 games in this short season already that are over six. So he just needs to, you know, catch all of them or at least all of the catchable ones. And he'll go to that 8, 9 range where you're bumping up into real wide receiver, two numbers as a floor. And then if he gets in the.

[Mike Wright]

And how do you feel about a jai coming in to take some of that Lamar Miller workload?

[Jason Moore]

I am not very worried about it in the sense that if you actually, you know, I've had Lamar Miller and he was kind of one of my hot picks before the season. So I've watched him very closely. They used Jonas Gray a lot. And so here's what, here's what I see as the difference really is that.

[Mike Wright]

I don't expect Jonas Gray.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, Jonas. They cut him now. But they were using him.

[Mike Wright]

Sorry.

[Jason Moore]

They were using him quite a bit even after the coaching change because they didn't. Even though they're, they're just running the ball more, it's not like, hey, let's give it to Lamar more. It's we need a running game. And they were using Jonas Gray quite a bit. I expect Ajayi to come into that role, but he's going to be better at it. And so maybe by the end of the season he grows more. But I think they're comfortable with him. Ajayi, for now. He's not a guy that you can play, but if you're a Lamar Miller owner, you have to have him on your team.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, let's move on to the Saints and the Redskins. Well, let me ask real quick, let me go back and just ask you about Zach Ertz because I'm curious what your thoughts are. He can't get into the end zone right now, but he is getting targeted. So where do you have Ertz? Would you start him?

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Yeah, I would start him.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I've got him at 10, I think the highest.

[Andy Holloway]

Or Richard Rogers.

[Jason Moore]

I like Richard Rogers this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Julius Thomas or Ertz?

[Mike Wright]

Tom.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. All right, let's talk about the Saints going into Washington D.C. and taking on the Redskins. This is pretty much a heads up game. I like. We all like Cousins a lot. I mentioned yesterday how bad the New Orleans defense was. I didn't mention this though, the difference. But New Orleans is the very worst pass defense in terms of expected points against them. And the difference between them and the second to last team, which is Tennessee, is so big that the difference between Tennessee and Arizona, it's the same difference between those two. Arizona is a very good pass D. So what I'm saying is they are so bad and they are so bad in excess. Right? Like, they're just on another stratosphere right now.

[Mike Wright]

You were going with like a yo mama joke. No, they are so bad. How bad are they?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't have one.

[Jason Moore]

You know, that. That stat and just the truth of how bad they've been has really made Jordan Reed a struggle for me in a lot of questions. Because this is a week where a lot of teams who have Jordan Reed have another good option. You've got Tyler Ifert, maybe you've got Gronk or Greg Olson. And so Jordan Reed isn't your starting tight end. And you are now putting Jordan Reed against other decent wide receiver options. And in a game like this, against that porous defense where you've got a guy catching a lot of balls, he is an actual legitimate flex play, even though he's a tight end.

[Mike Wright]

I agree. Jordan Reed is the number one target over the last two weeks since he's been back. He is the number one target for Kirk Cousins. And I don't.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you see that changing a little bit, though, when. When you have desean Jackson lining up across Garcon and you have more. I mean, they said they needed to get DJax more involved. That was one of the things they said this week. Garcon's already, you know, he's got a baseline of four to six catches every game, even though he hasn't been doing a ton with them. Don't you think that is going to come out of the Jordan Reed, you know, quota?

[Mike Wright]

No, I think that Djax will get a couple deep targets, but Jordan Reed is the. He kind of does everything for that team. And he. He really makes the passing game go for Kirk Cousins. And with the amount of points that the Saints can put up, I think there's going to be just a high volume of throwing overall for both.

[Andy Holloway]

It's interesting because the first game with desean Jackson back, he only had three catches last week. Read it. So I. It's something I want to monitor. I'm not going to extrapolate one game that's. But he only had 3 catches compared to 11 the game before.

[Jason Moore]

That's exactly why I say I'm having a hard time deciding between him and some other guys, because I could see him.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me just ask this. Flex Jordan Reed or desean Jackson?

[Mike Wright]

Jordan Reed.

[Jason Moore]

I would go Jordan Reed.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

However, I think if you're going boom, desean Jackson has a very high upside.

[Andy Holloway]

That's all he can do when he does well he booms. All right, Willie Snead, we talked about him, his injury. He may or may not play. We don't know yet. So if he is out, does that put Colson into the Wide Receiver 3 category? Would you start Colston Breeze has been cruising.

[Mike Wright]

If Snead is out, maybe.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you think, Jackson?

[Jason Moore]

It puts him in flex consideration. Yeah, I mean, Colston has had a couple good games this year where he's actually looked a little bit younger. He's not great. But if Sneed is out, Drew Brees has caught fire. If Sneed is out, though, the guy that it bumps up the most to me is Benjamin Watson. I already like him a lot, but the way that they've been moving him around and not just having him on the line, especially over the last three games, has just shown that he is more of a pass catching target. If Sneed's out, more will go his way.

[Andy Holloway]

The Saints are 25th against the run. The Redskins are 29th against the run. This is a game that both teams should see some relative success on the ground. If you had to start a running back from Washington and hope and pray. Who is it?

[Mike Wright]

It's Matt Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

Matt Jones. And what's going on with CJ Spiller? We. Everyone rushed to the waiver wire after a good game.

[Mike Wright]

Who knows, man?

[Andy Holloway]

Basically, nothing. He says he's confused. Is he a handcuff for Ingram owners? Is he. Is that it? Is he even a handcuff for Ingram owners?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The issue has been pass protection. That's what Sean Payton said. Right? That's why they want Ingram on the field. And that's a huge issue. But I mean, this is. This is a guy. There's got to be like, I don't know what Sean Payton's wife and CJ Spiller are up to.

[Andy Holloway]

Come on.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just saying, it's like, why is he not. Why is he not getting used? It makes. There has to be something behind the scenes slanderous.

[Andy Holloway]

Can we leave him on an island with this one? I let the panic button play all the way out on that one. Interesting perspective from Jason.

[Jason Moore]

That's.

[Mike Wright]

That's a. That's a scalding take.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm gonna just go with the pass protection reason. All right, I'll stick with that one for now. And I'm going to move on to the Vikings against the Raider. I want to see Murray play in this game. I want to see the Raiders succeed in this game. This is a very winnable game to me where they've Played well enough. Okay. The Raiders are eighth against the run this season. They haven't been good against the pass, but it's not like the Vikings are lighting it up on offense. Okay. This is the Adrian Peterson and hopefully Bridgewater can do something competent season. I mean, he has something like six touchdowns on the year. He's down at the bottom of the league and he's coming off this concussion. I think that this is.

[Jason Moore]

Whoa.

[Andy Holloway]

I can't do that actually, because the Raiders are favored. So The Vikings are 6 and 2, but the Raiders are favored, so I cannot make them my upset.

[Mike Wright]

This is the almost home team victory of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

It is. The favored team wins the game. Yeah. I think the Raiders win this game.

[Chris Meaney]

Bold.

[Mike Wright]

So that's a bold move.

[Andy Holloway]

Cotton, are you starting Derek Carr?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, I am, but I do temper my expectations a little bit here.

[Andy Holloway]

Vikings are very good defense.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And I think one of the things we need to realize from a fantasy perspective. Right. So you've got very good defenses that are hard to throw on and you've seen Derek Carr throw on them. But the difference between their defense and the Vikings defense is actually the Vikings. The Vikings have low scoring games every game. And it's not just because of their defense. It's because they've got Adrian Peterson. They've got a very slow, methodical offense that winds games down quickly and keeps teams on the field and the points go fewer. And so in those type of matchups, the over under is 44. And I would definitely take the under on this game just because it's the Vikings and what they've been doing this year, that style is a style that I think could hurt fantasy production in this game.

[Mike Wright]

And to examine the numbers of the Vikings here, here is who they have played. The Rams, Chicago, Detroit, twice in Kansas City. They did play the Broncos. The Broncos had some success. But I mean, these are. These are not teams that were lighting it up in the. In the passing game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The Vikings are enigmatic to me because they have this great record, but there hasn't been a game that they've played where I've said the Vikings went out and just took control from beginning to end. Even in the. They win, they end up winning these games. But I don't know what they. What we really have in them yet.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Well, we just think about the last time that the Vikings went down to the Bay Area. That was on week one. Carlos Hyde tore through them like aluminum foil.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

For seven.

[Andy Holloway]

And made everybody think, Carlos, I was going to be incredible.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And that the Vikings had a bad run D. So it's probably somewhere in between on this trip to the bay.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. So we like Stefan Diggs. We're gonna start Cooper and Crabtree. Yep. Is there anybody else you want to start from this game?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Want to start Murray? The only other thing I would say is Marcel Reese is. Would be the guy that I would expect to benefit if Murray is out.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay then.

[Mike Wright]

And let's say. Let's say you are desperate for a streamer. It's. It's hard. But Bridgewater, I mean the matchup is. Is delightful with the Raiders giving up the most yards in the league. So he. He's a possibility. If there's really nothing else.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a three quarterback league streamer. He's at the bottom of the barrel for me. I don't know if I'm trying to think of somebody else that I'd rather.

[Mike Wright]

Nick Foles.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. When I. When I see that they're at home.

[Andy Holloway]

At least when I see that passing I'd rather start Foals probably that passing defense.

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Against the Bears at home. Yeah. I'll take Foles over Bridgewater. Let's do it.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Did we just make a Bridgewater?

[Jason Moore]

There's no winner in this bet.

[Andy Holloway]

There are certain players when you make a bet, when you mention their names like and you have a post, you just have to bet it because it's too entertaining. So I just bet with.

[Jason Moore]

You just took Nick Foles on the side of a water bet. Amazing.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Here's hoping he gets some dump passes to Todd Gurley.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Well, that. That is amazing. Yeah, I'm.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fine for me.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not. I'm not on either of those. I'm not on either of those bandwagons, but hopefully it comes out good.

[Mike Wright]

Chiefs, Broncos.

[Andy Holloway]

We are going to talk Chiefs. Broncos. But you guys are going to bear with me because I need to see something real quick. I just want to know on the season from an average perspective who's actually winning that battle.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, Bridgewater versus Foles.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Bridgewater is averaging in our league. 16. They're back to back 29 and 30 in our league.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say back to back on the bottom.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's.

[Mike Wright]

We call that but to butt.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not good and neither should be played. All right, Chiefs go and take on the Broncos. The Broncos are at home. The Chiefs are coming off a bye. I expect a better game than people think here. A keep Talib will be out. I think the Chiefs. I Think the Chiefs are still competing.

[Mike Wright]

What is going on?

[Jason Moore]

Trying to tempt him for the almost upset of the week. Coming off a buy. You got injuries on Broncos who are coming off a loss. Andy's almost upset of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

I actually feel good about this because the Chiefs defense has been stepping it up. They were dominant last time out. They'll put pressure on Manning. They know how to create pressure with Houston and Tomb Ali and those that defensive front. I like the Chiefs to keep it close. The Broncos are favored by six at home, but it's a low scoring projection from Vegas. I like. I like this as a potential very close game. I'm not saying they're going to win it. It's going to come down to me. It's going to come more down to whether the Chiefs offense can do anything against the defense without a keep to leave versus the other direction. I what do you guys think about Char west this week?

[Mike Wright]

I like him.

[Jason Moore]

I do, too. The Broncos pasty has been incredible, but their run D has been completely middle of the pack. People have put up decent fantasy games against them and Charizard's been cruising the last few weeks. So I don't see any reason to sit him in this matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

Really like Kelsey. I think Kelsey is being involved in the offense a little bit more. I saw more creative play calling with him last game out, including them rewarding him after a big game, getting him a touchdown on the goal line. Kelsey's a guy that I really like going forward. I can't decide whether I like him more than Reed or not, but I think I do. This week I like him more than Reed just moving forward.

[Mike Wright]

Rest okay?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I'm not sure this week Reed has a nice matchup, but the run defense for the Chiefs is very highly ranked. They're very, I think, competitive defense. I don't like anybody in the Denver backfield.

[Mike Wright]

That's fair. That's very fair.

[Andy Holloway]

If you had to start one, Jay, who would it be?

[Jason Moore]

If I had to start one just vomited, I think it would be Ronnie Hillman.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I don't want to start either of those guys.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. So other side of the ball, we said Char west is okay. I like Jeremy Macklin.

[Mike Wright]

And just to remind people, Charizard is not Jamal Charles, But Charles put up 125 on the ground and a touchdown and west is just getting the volume that he can have a decent, decent game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. So we'll see what happens if they can pull off the upset or get close. The Patriots face their Arch nemesis the New York Football Giants in New York. And the Giants are seven point dogs at home. Woof. And maybe it should be more.

[Jason Moore]

You think?

[Andy Holloway]

Not really because yesterday we talked about this. I think, I don't know if it was on the Patreon mailbag show or on the live on the show yesterday, but the Giants have won five of six matchups in the Belichick Coughlin era against the Patriots. It'll be a put to the test this week. I think we all agree about that.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely.

[Andy Holloway]

But the loss of Dion Lewis, figuring out what's going on in the backfield, how do you expect it to unfold from a fantasy perspective in the backfield for New England?

[Mike Wright]

I love LeGarrett blunt this week. Love him.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

He is your start of the week. I have a, I have a few worries about him. Just because the last time we saw Dion Lewis go out, all of a sudden they're like, well, we're just throwing the ball. Then Legaria, you can take this one off. So.

[Mike Wright]

And I have, I completely agree with that moving forward. But the Giants run defense is just, just the worst.

[Jason Moore]

I think their past says, hey, don't forget about us. We're pretty bad too.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. This is the team that gave up seven passing touchdowns to Drew Brees two weeks ago and now they have to take on Tom Brady. I love the quote from Jason Pierre Paul where he just said, I kind of hope, I hope he just has a bad day or he's sick or something. It would help us out.

[Jason Moore]

The nice honesty. That's why my start of the week is Brandon Lefell. I think LaFell gets in the end zone this week, has plenty of targets, plenty of catches, plenty of yards. You know, he could be a wide receiver one, Wide receiver two. I think is his floor. So.

[Mike Wright]

And I don't know if we've talked about this since the Dion Lewis injury. The guy that we all kind of think gets the bump is not necessarily James White, it's Danny Amendola. That's what we saw when Lewis was out. We saw that. That's when Amadola had those two bigger.

[Andy Holloway]

Back to back games. Seven for 105 against Indianapolis, eight for 86 and a touchdown in the game against the Jets. Following those two. And those were the two games where Lewis was injured and struggled and wasn't involved in the offense that much.

[Jason Moore]

If you have a bunch of garbage on your bench, you know, sometimes the way that the lineup crumbles, you might have just nothing worthless guys on your bench, go and swap one of them out for Danny Amendola. Now, I agree. Before he blows up because, you know, he could go into a role like that where his floor is high and every ceiling is high on the Patriots.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you drop somebody like Matt Jones for Danny Amadola?

[Mike Wright]

I don't really like dropping running backs.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you rather have James White than Danny Amendola take the chance on James White?

[Jason Moore]

At this point, I would rather have James White than Danny Amendola. As far as the chip in play, and the reason is kind of what Mike's saying, it's because he. He's got the RB next to his name instead of the wr. And one of those is easier to fill than the other.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, that's. That's good. Eli Manning, what do we think about him this week?

[Mike Wright]

I'm still going to start him. The. You have to keep up with the Patriots, and if they're going to keep up, it's going to be Eli Manning.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. And obviously no discussion necessary for Robert Gronkowski, who's been the number one in our rankings for many weeks, I think.

[Jason Moore]

Based on the matchup, you can play him this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, based on the matchup, it'll be decent.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. The Giants are. This is the note. Giants are terrible against the tight end. Gronk could have two or three touchdowns this week.

[Andy Holloway]

So if you're a fantasy team and you're running out Tom Brady, LeGarrett Blunt, Julian Edelman, Brandon Lefell, Rob Gronkowski and Steven Goskowski, you're probably going to win. You're just fine.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Honestly, I think that is comedic, but I believe if you had those guys, you could win a decent matchup this week. That's ludicrous.

[Mike Wright]

That is crazy talk.

[Andy Holloway]

It is interesting because there have been, you know, in our league of record, I think we're in season nine. I've won two championships in the league, and both times I had stacks of kind of the team that was the team to beat that year. I had Peyton Manning with Dallas Clark and Reggie Wayne one season, and then the other, ironically, I had Peyton Manning with like Demarius Thomas and Julius Thomas or. I don't remember who it was. It was three Broncos. So it does work out.

[Mike Wright]

Moreno.

[Andy Holloway]

Well. Yeah, there you go. Moreno.

[Mike Wright]

Moreno.

[Andy Holloway]

And. And so we've seen this work. It's not like you wouldn't want Aaron Rodgers and, you know, you've seen Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb in years past. I don't know if I'd go six deep, but that would be awesome. And just to. Just to give you Perspective on the variance you can see there. In one of my leagues, I have Brady Gronk and Deion Lewis, and I know Lewis is out now, but two weeks ago I got 87 from those three guys combined. Last week it was like 37. So that's what can happen. You can just have a week that goes your way and you blow a team out and then you can have a week that dies off. So let's talk about the Cardinals at the Seahawks. The Sunday Night Football game. I'm excited for this game.

[Mike Wright]

This one is the fantasy hitman's upset of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, because the Seahawks are. You're favored by. And you're a hometown Cardinal fan.

[Mike Wright]

You're darn right I am.

[Andy Holloway]

A lot of questions this week about Palmer because the matchup isn't great on paper. The Seahawks are obviously very good. They're the second best pass defense statistically. They're the best. Ninth best run defense. They're a great D. We know what the Seahawks are. That being said, is Palmer matchup proof or, you know, on a Sunday night game coming off the bike and he come in here and produce because of his weapons? What are you expecting from him? Without bias, my friends.

[Mike Wright]

And this is without bias. And here's why. Here is these are the teams that the Seahawks have shut down. Dallas, Brandon Wheaton or Matt Castle. That was Castle. San Francisco. Colin Kaepernick. Cam Newton had success. Andy Dalton had success. Stafford, they shut him down. And then the ever dangerous Jimmy Clausen of the Chicago Bears, they shot him down. But Aaron Rodgers, even Nick Foles, Week one, I mean, teams are having success again. This is not last year's Seattle defense. And the problem with them is their pass rush is not as good as it is as it has been in past years. And if Palmer has any kind of protection with Larry Fitzgerald, John Brown and Michael Floyd all running free, there is going to be trouble for the Seahawks. Db, you can't cover. Nobody can cover forever when there's. When there's three top end weapons.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think I agree with what you're saying. Obviously those statistics are right. Two of those big games came in the first two weeks without Cam Chancellor. Their defense has improved since then. So I think it's somewhere in the middle. And also you have to factor in that they are at home. And when they are at home, you know, Andy Dalton did a great job. He's really the only person this year that has really carved them up. But that was in Cincinnati. Nobody has gone to Seattle and really carved him up.

[Andy Holloway]

So for me, you very much temper your ceiling with him then.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. I just don't see how he could.

[Andy Holloway]

Throw for three or four touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's not going to throw him 300 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

So you take Eli Malley, Eli Manning over Palmer.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. This week I would.

[Mike Wright]

I think that's how I have it ranked.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

The end. And honestly. So the question, for me, the biggest question is do I play Palmer in my, in my high stakes league or do I, do I stream Kirk Cousins?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that is difficult. I am fine with you streaming Cousins.

[Jason Moore]

I think if you're looking for the higher play, that's going to be Kirk Cousins. He, he has a higher ceiling this week then.

[Mike Wright]

And I, and I would agree with that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

But it's, it's just tough. I, because I still have, I have confidence in Palmer.

[Jason Moore]

The nice thing about streaming Kirk Cousins is that when he throws a pick six, he just has to get back on the field and throw more. So it's just more opportunity for him to put up yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Now generally in these type of games now, the Cardinals are fourth against the run, seventh against the pass. The Seahawks are ninth against the run, second against the pass. AKA really competitive defensive football game. Somebody will have a great fantasy day. But predicting it in games like this is the most difficult because whether it's Chris Johnson or Andre Ellington or the Fitzgerald Brown Floyd situation, you know, Palmer is going to probably throw for one or two, but it's hard to know exactly who that is when you have a defensive kind of matchup like this. So is there somebody that stands out that you are confident about or is everybody going to bump down because of the, the defensive nature of this game?

[Mike Wright]

I mean, everyone gets the bump down. Fitzgerald is the, is the guy I'm most confident in just because he's the, he's kind of that possession guy where I'm, I feel confident in him getting five or six catches.

[Jason Moore]

Did you hear Larry Fitzgerald on whether or not Richard Sherman was going to cover him this week?

[Mike Wright]

No, I did not.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, so it was so great. Larry's so great. He was talking, he goes, man, I'm old now. I haven't had a thousand yards in three seasons. He's got to cover Michael. He's young, he's good. He's like, I just really hope he's on Michael. That's great.

[Andy Holloway]

That is pretty good. I'm old now. That's great. Yeah. Please don't cover Larry. Don't cover him.

[Jason Moore]

But that is the problem. You just don't, you don't know where he's going to be guarded. And the truth is this year, like other years, quarterbacks just haven't thrown at Richard Sherman that much. So it's not even whether or not he's the reason to shut him, you know, that he's shutting Larry down. For me, I don't want to pick a guy and I take a bump down on just about everybody in this game. The only guy that I think is an absolute fine play, but not that great, but I would start him if he's in my roster is probably Marshawn Lynch.

[Andy Holloway]

What about Jimmy? Jimmy Graham?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's another one of those. He could have a great game, but it could be Lockett instead or it could be Doug Baldwin instead. We just don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we got to get to the Monday night game and then our Daily dose segment today. The Texans are taking on the Bengals on Monday Night Football. The Bengals are heavy favorites. They're at home, clearly, you know, eight. No, playing well, playing well in prime time, getting a lot more attention than they had been getting earlier in the year. How do we think this game shakes out? I mean, you're starting DeAndre Hopkins, obviously, but he might be the only guy you actually roll out on the entire Texans team.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So I mean, Alfred Blue, I have.

[Jason Moore]

Him on my bench in a league. No, I wouldn't roll him out here.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you play him on your bench?

[Jason Moore]

I would play him on my bench.

[Andy Holloway]

You'd put him in the bench spot.

[Jason Moore]

I want those bench points, you know, for the fantasy time point.

[Andy Holloway]

I want that bench point.

[Mike Wright]

If you're going. I mean, we got shorts in Washington. I think Shorts is going to play, which kind of caps that upside of.

[Andy Holloway]

I still take Washington over shorts of the nasty one.

[Mike Wright]

I do too.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And Washington is. He's in that. We always talk about this nebulous lump of receivers who could do well. He is definitely in there because the Texans could be getting boat raced and then just have to throw a bunch so he garbage times his way into a decent wide receiver. Three day.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you rather have Nate Washington or Marvin Jones in this game? Marvin Jones, would you rather have Nate Washington or Mohammed Sanu in this game?

[Mike Wright]

Nate Washington give me nasty.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. And then Mike, tell me how you're approaching the running backs position with Jeremy Hill and Gio Bernard and the ever swinging pendulum of excitement.

[Mike Wright]

Last week's effort against the Browns of the usage of Jeremy Hill was just a shot. The buck.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Bon Jovi nailed that one.

[Jason Moore]

So it's.

[Mike Wright]

It's really hard to count on him. But. And let's say you have both these guys. Who do I start? Who do I start? It depends on what you need. Do you need 10 points? You go geo Bernard. Do you need 20 points? You go with Jeremy Hill.

[Andy Holloway]

And that is so much of what makes lineup decisions, not black and white. Right. People can look at a ranking sheet and say, I like this guy more than that guy. But there are kind of facets within that. Who are you playing in your league? Are you going up against the worst team in the league and you need to just guarantee your baseline points and you know you'll get by them? Are you going up against the juggernaut who's got Gurley running out there against the Bears at home?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, don't talk about that.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, is that your situation? Yes, I know it is. I just. Just having fun with it. Is Todd Gurley pretty good?

[Mike Wright]

He's okay.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's go ahead and we got through the forecast. Let's take a minute here and break down some great DFS options for you with our special guest, Chris Meaney.

[Jason Moore]

The Daily Dose.

[Mike Wright]

The fantasy footballers are joined once again by. By the meanest, by the leanest. Chris Meaty of the Fantasy Sports Network. He's. We're gonna talk some DFS strategies. Guys he likes, guys he maybe doesn't like. Get some values on that on the fanduels. So let's get it done. What's going on, Chris?

[Chris Meaney]

Good. That was a pretty good intro, I must say. I didn't. I've never heard that one before. I heard like eeny, meeny, miny, moe, big meanie. But I'm a big fan of that one.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I hope that your. Your physique can match my. My interpretation of your name at the beginning there.

[Jason Moore]

But. So let's.

[Mike Wright]

Here we go. We'll start at the top. Big name quarterback guys that, that cost the big quiche. Who do you like?

[Chris Meaney]

Yes, this is an Aaron Rodgers week.

[Andy Holloway]

I like him.

[Chris Meaney]

I'm paying up. He's the most expensive quarterback on the board. 9 2. I'm not too worried about it. There's a lot of values I'm sure we can get. Get to where you can just afford to have Aaron Rodgers in there. I mean, even. I guess we could call it garbage time. Against Carolina, he ended up with 30, almost 34 FanDuel points. 33.96 this game. You know, back at Lambeau playing Detroit, a team that struggled. Green Bay coming off a couple losses. Now, I think this is a statement game, so I'm willing to pay up for Aaron Rodgers and I mean his wide receiving core is pretty cheap. You know, Randall Cobb is 7 7. Finally had a good game. Devonte Adams had 11 targets last game. He's only 5 8. So I like that. If you want to pair him up with either Cobb or Devonte Adams, I'm going to continue to pay for Todd Gurley. I think this is a terrific matchup against the Bears 9 2. And again, there's some other values out there where you can afford to really have Gurley and Rogers in your lineup.

[Mike Wright]

And what do you think about this stack? Because I'm loving it this week. Mr. B.B. blake Bortles and Alan Robinson. How do you feel about that?

[Chris Meaney]

I love it.

[Andy Holloway]

I love it.

[Chris Meaney]

A huge fan. How could you not be? I mean Bortles. Bortles doesn't get the credit because he throws some picks. I mean this guy's not afraid to throw the ball. Jacksonville is not. You know what they're always most part they're always down in games. So he's not afraid to swing it. He's only $7,800. I looked at his FanDuel points. 22, 25, 29, 19, 17, 21. This guy hasn't been over $8,000 yet this year. The only bad game he really had was two weeks ago against Buffalo. He had 13 FanDuel points against a tough defense. This is a great matchup against Baltimore. I love his wide receivers. And Allen Robinson Only $7500. Even Hearns at 73. I know he's banged up. He' foot injury. I expect him to play. He's got a touchdown in like six straight games. So I'm a huge fan of that stack option. Definitely 100% on board.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's talk some some other running backs besides Gurley. Who do you like? Do you like a. Maybe a DeMarco Murray against Miami? Or how about four set on the other side of the ball in that Jacksonville game for set against Baltimore or.

[Chris Meaney]

Jacksonville for set is for sets. Nice. Because again there's no Steve Smith senior. This is a guy who's going to get a lot of the targets. He may even le the league and or meet lead the Ravens and targets that game as a running back it's pretty special. You mentioned DeMarco Murray. I think we're on the same page here with Bortles and that stack. I love DeMarco Murray as well. $7,700. This is, you know, he's got 20 FanDuel points. At least 20 fandom points in three of his last score against Miami, 142.1 yards per game. That's how. That's how many yards per game they're allowing, which is the second most to running backs this season. And the Bills, I mean they had two 100 yard rushers against them last week. So I like DeMarco Murray. That run game has looked pretty good in Philadelphia. I think LeGarrett BL worth a play as well. At 6 9. You never know what you're going to get with Blunt, but I think now you know he's going to be the focal point. Every time. This guy's had about 17, 18 carries, he's ended up with about 70, 80, at least 70, 80 yards. And you just hope that he can find the end zone. Jeremy Lankford is interesting as well because his price is 6:2 at St. Louis. The prices were already established on FanDuel before that Monday night game against the Chargers. So I and Lankford was really good in that game. Ended up with over 20 points. I know it's tough against St. Louis, but at that price point at 6:2, I mean you almost have to just play them, just try them out in a couple lineups because if FanDuel would have saw how well he did Monday night, that price would have been probably around 76 like it is for D'Angelo Williams who is another great play as well. 76 going to be heavily owned but why not have him out there going up against Cleveland who allows the most rushing yards per game at 147.6. So those are a couple other backs that I do like as well.

[Mike Wright]

If you had to choose this week between LeGarrett Blunt and James Starks, who would you go with?

[Chris Meaney]

I would go. I would go Blunt. I really would. Starks. I know that he's the starter now. McCarthy wants to roll him out and Lacy is just looked awful. They're both $6,000 against Detroit. I do obviously like Starks more than Lacy, but I would roll out Blunt more just because I'm just banking on maybe a heavier workload and New England putting up more points and this may be a goal line touchdown from Blunt.

[Mike Wright]

What kind of at the tight end position. What are you looking to do?

[Chris Meaney]

The tight end position. I still don't mind Benjamin Watson at 5 5. I think that the Saints could have their way with that Washington secondary. I know Drew Brees is a different quarterback on the road. I like Delaney Walker we saw last week. You know Delaney Walker is a big, you know with no Kendall. Right. He's a big part of that offense. You know, for Mariota to throw the ball and just Tyler Iferts me is just. He's so nice to pass up. I mean six two is not. He's the third most expensive tight end on the board. But if you look at Gronke's 8000, you look at Iford, he's 62. I mean the touchdowns have been there. He's just leading. Leading touchdown. So Tyler Iford is a guy for me that I'm willing to roll out there almost, you know, every single week. A couple of wide oats that are fairly cheap that maybe we can get to Landry I'd like at $7,000 against Philadelphia. Now, the corners in Philly and the safeties have been surprisingly pretty good this season, but Cole Beasley ate them up last week in the slot. Had 11 targets, 112 yards, nine catches, two touchdowns. I think Jarvis Landry could do a little bit of damage in that Philadelphia game at $7,000. And I don't understand Michael Crabtree. Why is his price not changing? Finally, it's now in the $6,000 range. This is a guy I think that I've talked to you, I may have mentioned him to you guys almost every single week. And to be are asking if I have a crush on him and I May. The last two games, 24 targets, 14 catches, 200 plus yards and two scores. It's a tougher matchup against Minnesota, but he continues to get it done every single week. Play Crabtree.

[Mike Wright]

I think that Andy is the one setting the price for Michael Crabtree because he hates him so much.

[Chris Meaney]

Really much. And you know what? I did too going into this year because I was a big believer in.

[Andy Holloway]

Him and San I don't hate him anymore. I have eyeballs, I can see the field. But I mean, it just took a while. You mix Michael Crabtree's career with him being on the Raiders. You're telling me you saw good things?

[Chris Meaney]

No, no, I agree. No, I did not see good things.

[Andy Holloway]

And this is a guy that I.

[Chris Meaney]

Also hated because there was so much upside with him in San Francisco. I always gave the benefit of the doubt to Colin Kaepernick. I said, you know, these two can figure it out. Crabtree had issues obviously staying on the but you know what? Right now, Derek Carr, it looks phenomenal. And this is another guy that I would play too. I mean, $7,500 again, a tougher matchup. He's only $7,000 last week against that Steelers defense. But again, $7,500. I wouldn't mind it at all. I mean, we're talking about New England. Brendan Lefell had nine targets last week too. He's only $6,200. So he's a sneaky little play as well.

[Mike Wright]

That's fantastic work as always by Chris Meaney of the Fantasy Sports Network. How can people get a hold of you on the Twitters?

[Chris Meaney]

Yeah, you can give me a tweet at Chris Meaney. Me a N E Y. Getting a couple questions already this week, dfs. So I'll be happy to answer them. Hopefully I can help some people out. I know I told somebody, somebody called me a genius and then I was like, listen, let's hold the, hold that talk for a little bit because I told somebody to play Robert woods over Sammy Watkins and that did not work.

[Mike Wright]

Whoops.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it happens to the best of us.

[Chris Meaney]

It happens. Yeah, it happens. Hopefully more right than wrong. But feel free. Anybody out there want to ask a DFS question or just a regular question? I'm, I'm always available.

[Andy Holloway]

Thanks a lot.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Chris, we'll talk to you next week.

[Chris Meaney]

Alright, thanks guys for having me. Enjoy the football.

[Andy Holloway]

Thanks again to Chris Meaney for joining us every week. Good information, good insight into the DFS world. A lot going on, obviously in the DFS kind of. It's, it's in everybody's public consciousness now with all of the different things going on. Did you guys have any brief thoughts about the New York situation? We, I mentioned yesterday that we're going to have a rep on to talk a little bit about that and get players informed about what's taking place. He's not able to come on today, so we'll have that early next week. But do you guys have any general quick thoughts? I mean, I'm sure people want to hear from us. What are we. What's going on?

[Mike Wright]

So here's the quick thoughts and the rundown. The Attorney General of New York sent a cease and desist letter to FanDuel and DraftKings. From what we know, FanDuel and DraftKings are both going to fight this because it was not a court order. You are forced to shut down. They're going to continue as normal. And it's, it's a really polarizing thing because you have look at the sponsorships of FanDuel and DraftKings. They're everywhere. And I heard on my way into work today the, the Nets are going to continue to advertise FanDuel.

[Andy Holloway]

However, in the Jersey, Brooklyn Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

In Brooklyn, they're going to just keep advertising, but at Madison Square Garden, they are removing all DraftKings. So not even the teams can agree on what the. What to do. And I know there's a rally today going on in New York. I heard it was a good turnout in front of the Attorney General's office, letting him know that people want to play.

[Andy Holloway]

People want to play and worry about something else.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And this is kind of like the. Let's be frank and honest. We live like guys like us get to do our jobs and provide this entertainment in this source of information for. For the Foot Clan because of companies like FanDuel and DraftKings. So if you want to show your support and sign the. The petitions that are online, I personally encourage that because I like to do what I do. And I think people have the right to play.

[Andy Holloway]

I believe. And I'm gonna verify it real quick. The URL for that petition is FantasySportsForAll.com that's where they're. They're bringing people together. So anything you want to add, Jason, or should we close it out?

[Jason Moore]

No, I think. I think you guys covered. It seems like mostly a, you know, a publicity play from an Attorney general for now because it's. It's in the news and now people who didn't know his name know his name.

[Andy Holloway]

It's interesting because really what's taken place is it's kind of the growth of fantasy sports, the amount of people that play it. I mean, I think it's. 50 million Americans play fantasy sports every year because of the increase in popularity of something which verifies. It's fun. Right. Like, people like it. So this many people are playing it, that also the notoriety of it gets out there and people start hearing about it and then they say, well, what's going on? What is this? What is that? And there's a lot of misinformation and lack of information about what takes place and questions from people. And so that's why we want to have somebody on to kind of answer some of those that isn't us. But that's kind of where we're sitting with the whole. The whole thing going on. There's a lot of wait and see taking place right now, Right?

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

So. Okay, that does it for today's show. Thank you for listening to another week of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Check out our website, jointhefoot.com and the fantasy footballers.com if you want to connect with us.

[Mike Wright]

Make some bets and download the Water Wheel app.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. Pay those out.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you for listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at www.thefantasyfootballers.com and follow us on TwitterFFballers.